1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The Maori Development Minister Tama Paultucker has warned the group, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: this is the group tasked with deciding the future of Ihumato, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: that they could be shown the door if they can't 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: find a solution. The Crown bought Humato for thirty million 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: dollars back in twenty twenty. You remember that this is 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: to end the occupation over its commercial development. They wanted 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: to build houses there. Since then, there's been a group 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: and you may not have known this, a group of 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: monafenua and Crown reps who have been tasked with forming 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: a plan which must involve putting Maori harsing on the 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: disputed land. It hasn't happened yet. Willie Jackson's minister was 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: a Minister in charge at the time the Crown bought 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: the land. He's the current Labor Maori Development spokesperson. Mordena 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Good morning. 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: In Modina, Madina, Right. 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Hey, good to have you on the show. So Tama 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Pawtucker's basically said, if you guys can't sort your out, 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: then I might step in. Is that not fair enough? 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's been given five years. So the xual agreement 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: was signed off in July are twenty two. That's when 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: we the crown put our representatives on. So we put 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: two representatives on and they were given five years. You know, 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: of course we want progress and all of that, but 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: I mean a deal is a deal, isn't it. You 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: see this governments into breaching that anything, it seems with 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: Copropa Maori. And yes we want things to happen, and 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: of course we want housing there, particularly for Co Marto. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: But it's just it's just the sort of weekly attack, 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: isn't it all the Ford weekly or Ford mighty attack 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: on Mari. If it's not, if it's not this, then 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: it's a two or Maori. If it's not this, it's 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: treated legislation. If it's not, it's mary House. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, but how can you before how can you 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: be four years on from the sale, you know, thirty 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: million dollars in public money, have no houses, no plan 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: and no idea of what's going on. 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: Well, well, one there is I think there is a plan, 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: and two agree. Well people can't agree on some things. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: But this was a five year agreement with the people. 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: So actually they speak very clear. If we didn't sign 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: off in terms of a deal until July twenty two, 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: and the deal was a five year deal. So you know, 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: just because you and Tama Portucker want things to happen tomorrow, 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: it doesn't always happen that way. And I think there 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: has to be some credibility shown and Marty has to 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: be given the space to do the deal. That's the 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: that's the reality. Now we can get all tough and say, oh, 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: you married's got to get it together tomorrow. We all 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: want housing, we all want the best for the community. 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: But let's just let's just work us through it. But 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: they get all you have to keep running the anti 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Marti line that this government keeps running. And that's what's 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: incredibly disappointing. I live in not too far from Humato, 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: and people are sick of it. You know. We came 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: to a peaceful solution. But everyone well you will. 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Know then that the comataware who just want to live 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: there in a nice house that's insulated and warm and dry, 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: you know. And here we are, hang. 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: On, hang on the co mart The king, okay, the 60 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: king was facilitating this prosis on behalf of the local 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: co mart and on behalf of everyone. And of course 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: that's what I want, and that's what the local co 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: martyrs want. But give them the space and honor the agreement. 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. And if they don't, if they 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: don't hit their deadline before the agreement finishes, then obviously 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: you're into something else. But don't try cup things a 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: quarter of the way through it. I mean, I know 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: that's how you operate, Ryan, and you're the ones he fever. 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Come on, mate, give the marri it's a fair crack. 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: He give us a bit of space. You know, we 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: deserve an opportunities. 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm god all right, Well, thank you for coming on. 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Have a good morning, Kildor Willy Jackson, 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: who's Labour's not the development spokesperson. 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridget's Live to 76 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: News Talks. 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: It'd be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.