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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news talks, head Beat.

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Speaker 2: Well and welcome today the Reserve Bank in the cash rate,

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Speaker 2: more Dost stats on our kids reading in Math's abilities.

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Speaker 2: The Trademan has gone as way to Washington, Mark and

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Speaker 2: Jinny Politics Wednesday after Wave, Richard Arnold with the meeting

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Speaker 2: wash up, Steve Price in Australia as well, Pasky, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Wednesday seven past six. The Great Debate on again today,

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Speaker 2: of course, as the Reserve Bank enters our collective consciousness

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Speaker 2: with a crack at the cash right, they will cut

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Speaker 2: at twenty five points. But that's not the news. Of course.

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Speaker 2: The cut was sought at last week by the retail

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Speaker 2: banks who saw what we see, know what's coming and

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Speaker 2: drop the old mortgage money again. Now, the real news

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Speaker 2: is what Christian says, apart from the twenty five points

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Speaker 2: and how he says it, or indeed, if you're a

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Speaker 2: read between the tea leaves person and what he doesn't say.

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Speaker 2: The trouble for the bank is there in charge of inflation.

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Speaker 2: Of course, inflation is sought off, kind of tamed. It's

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Speaker 2: at the upper end of the zero to three percent

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Speaker 2: band at the moment. It may well breach it this year,

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Speaker 2: but generally it is thought that it will settle trouble

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Speaker 2: with that is what's driving inflation, not growth. Bills are

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Speaker 2: cost plus accounting is your rates bill is now your

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Speaker 2: rates bill produces no growth, but it does stow inflation.

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Speaker 2: So what's Christian to do? Inflation with no growth? By

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Speaker 2: the way, it's called stagflation. That is not good. There's

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Speaker 2: also debate around what neutral is. In other words, what

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Speaker 2: does the cash right have to get to before we

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Speaker 2: all roughly agree the job has done growth as bubbling,

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Speaker 2: inflation as taming the Reserve Bank can step back for

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Speaker 2: a while now. Some say this might be it, today,

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Speaker 2: might be it. Kelly Eckold he thinks a twenty five

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Speaker 2: point cut today he's at Westpac. He says neutrals three percent.

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Speaker 2: Others say it's two point seven five percent. In fact,

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Speaker 2: quite a few people say it's two point seven five percent.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Kellihis says it's two and a half. They're not

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Speaker 2: all right, and they can't be all wrong, and that's

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Speaker 2: why you don't want to be the Reserve Bank governor.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it does throw up the frailties of the

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Speaker 2: bank and its riding instructions. They are not surgeons who

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Speaker 2: poke and pride and micro adjust. They've just got a big,

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Speaker 2: fat hammer and they smack inflation with it. If farming

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Speaker 2: makes enough to cover lots of industries that aren't bud

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Speaker 2: who they may look through some of that. They are

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Speaker 2: not a welfare agency. But sadly, many of our futures

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Speaker 2: are inextricably linked to what they think. So what Christians

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Speaker 2: should say is twenty five points today and stand by

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Speaker 2: because I've got two more where that came from. But Willie.

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Speaker 3: News of the World in ninety seconds could be.

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Speaker 2: Switzerland, won't be Moscow might not happen at all. And

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Speaker 2: that's before we get to the boots on the ground

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Speaker 2: and who's boots. So the meeting wash up and that

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Speaker 2: call with putin.

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Speaker 4: The cob president putin yesterday and I do have a

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Speaker 4: good relationship, but it, you know, only matters if we

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Speaker 4: get things done. Otherwise I don't care about the relationship.

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Speaker 4: I've saw seven wars, we ended seven wars. I thought

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Speaker 4: this would be one of the easier ones. And this

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Speaker 4: has turned out to be the toughest.

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Speaker 2: Well, I swear to God, every time he talks about

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Speaker 2: the war, the number goes up. It's now says so

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Speaker 2: I'm sure started at five the other day. A lot

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Speaker 2: of the observers thought yesterday actually brought some hope. Ed Davey,

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Speaker 2: the LIBDM bloke back in Britain, was nobly through.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me for being skeptical about how he's gone about this,

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Speaker 5: the way he seems to be way too friendly to

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Speaker 5: Vladimir Putin, rolling out the red carpet with someone who's

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Speaker 5: a war criminal.

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Speaker 2: Trump. Here's another matter on his mind, banning mail in voting.

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Speaker 2: This is Colorado, They're ready.

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is trying to power grab head of the

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Speaker 6: twenty six elections. We will stop him, just like I've

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Speaker 6: stopped him from rolling back mail ballots multiple times, and

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Speaker 6: we will fight any attempt to disenfranchise millions of Americans

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Speaker 6: all across the country.

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Speaker 2: Then the other war seems from US has agreed to

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Speaker 2: a sixty dayer. But what about the Israelis.

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Speaker 7: I believe that Natagiel will have no choice back to

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Speaker 7: go and take it.

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Speaker 2: Since this the gaps.

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Speaker 7: Now between the two sides is within rich a compromise

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Speaker 7: is within Rich.

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Speaker 2: Then back in Britain the Migrant Hotel Mes, specifically EPINGH

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Speaker 2: in Essex, which has been the scene of all those protests.

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Speaker 2: Of course I've gone and found a judge of a

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Speaker 2: night and got a temporary hold.

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Speaker 8: What we call upon the government for all along has

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Speaker 8: been talked to us and let's move this forward. We

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Speaker 8: always knew the Bell Hotel was the wrong location because

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Speaker 8: of its close proximity to schools and other parts of

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Speaker 8: the community.

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Speaker 3: It was never going to work out over in Calai.

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Speaker 2: Though the aid workers aren't thrilled, it seems to.

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Speaker 9: Be a victory for violent protests more than anything else.

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Speaker 9: Where's the compassion, Where's the kindness, Where's the decency? And

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Speaker 9: the problem with this is in violent disorder works here?

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Speaker 9: Where does it stop?

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Speaker 2: Finally, new dining trend. We've got water peerings in here,

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Speaker 2: the dinner with your water lap. They probably don't pronounce

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Speaker 2: it that way because it is in the UK Lad

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Speaker 2: Pope pote first water menu. So they are going to

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Speaker 2: offer three different bottles, four different sparklings along with tap.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the idea was suggested to the owners by

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Speaker 2: a water Somelia who owns his own water bars. So

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Speaker 2: that's clearly becoming a thing in response to the rising

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Speaker 2: number of people who don't drink alcohol. Of course anyone.

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Speaker 2: So the cost, what are we dealing with? The cheapest

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Speaker 2: bottle is going to be eleven fifty most expensive bottle

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Speaker 2: of sparkling forty four dollars. Its news the world in

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Speaker 2: ninety year. Where are they going to meet? Well, first

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Speaker 2: of all, we don't even know they're going to meet.

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Speaker 2: They seem to I think everyone seems to think they will,

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Speaker 2: but it's not actually one hundred percent confirmed. Putin said Moscow.

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Speaker 2: But then he would say that, and Zelenski said, don't

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Speaker 2: be stupid, I'm not going to Moscow. Switzerland has offered

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Speaker 2: Putent immunity war criminal of course, so they've offered him immunity,

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Speaker 2: so it might be held there, and geographically speaking, it

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Speaker 2: works for both of them. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: You want to know where confidences? Confidences in Australia highest

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Speaker 2: level of more than three and a half years came

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Speaker 2: out yesterday. This is the Westpac Melbourne Institute Measure of

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Speaker 2: Consumer Confidence up five point seven percent in August, so

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Speaker 2: it was three cuts and they're after the races fifteen

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Speaker 2: past six big lay money back, money back, Jay am

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Speaker 2: I wealthy, callah, good morning, very good morning mine. So

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Speaker 2: dairy time, it's it's okay, it's down, smitch, But it's

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Speaker 2: not the end of the world.

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Speaker 6: Is it.

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 10: I think it's pretty much hasteadius.

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Speaker 11: She goes out come in the Global Dairy Trade auction

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Speaker 11: this morning, so they're moving into the high volume part

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Speaker 11: of the season. I would have thought steady pricing take

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Speaker 11: the volatility out of those results, that that would be

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Speaker 11: a pretty.

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Speaker 10: Good or desired outcome, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 11: And so yeah, the price index is down zero point

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Speaker 11: three percent, so I think that satisfies the low volatility outcome,

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Speaker 11: doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Iving So hold up a smooge skimmed down, a smurge

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Speaker 2: butter down. It's all right, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 11: So, I mean the big grunty product, skim milk powdered

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Speaker 11: down one point eight percent. But if you look at

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Speaker 11: the price action that really continues the range training was

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Speaker 11: I think everyone will be happy with that.

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Speaker 2: Now Sky I'm reading about yesterday, So they're going to

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Speaker 2: chase some money. Is there money out there? I mean

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Speaker 2: I'm putting money into Sky.

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Speaker 10: Look, they probably it's a big part of the index.

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Speaker 11: And when when stocks are a large part of the index,

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Speaker 11: that people tend to want to sort of replicate where

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Speaker 11: the index is. So maybe at the margins though, people

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Speaker 11: make a call. Yeah, they hit the headlines yesterday ahead

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Speaker 11: of their results. So it's we big report week this week,

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Speaker 11: but they've got in ahead of their report. They said

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Speaker 11: they've gone into a trading halt said they expect to

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Speaker 11: make a material announcement regarding a capital race, so raising

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Speaker 11: more money, as you say, not debt but equity. The

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Speaker 11: thing is there's been a bit of market speculation. I

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Speaker 11: think it might have been the Australian newspaper was talking

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Speaker 11: about a possible capital race.

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Speaker 10: Skuy said.

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Speaker 11: He said they aren't ready to make any announcement, not

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Speaker 11: a position to do that yet to maintain an orderly market,

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Speaker 11: they halted trading. They did say that the twenty five

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Speaker 11: year results will be consistent with guidance. Look like there

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Speaker 11: has been a bit of market chatter around the possibility.

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Speaker 11: I'd call it chatter about the possibility of asset sales,

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Speaker 10: To raise money.

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Speaker 11: capital race I think probably been downplayed. Now it looks

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Speaker 11: like a distinct possibility. Yesterday's release was very firm in

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Speaker 11: the position that a decision hadn't been made yet, but

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Speaker 11: results announcement Thursday, all will be revealed.

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Speaker 10: Look, if they have to raise the money, they probably

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Speaker 2: Business inflation and these these price pressures are still a thing,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is the Producer Price Index, Mike.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't get the press courage that CPI does, but

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Speaker 11: faced by businesses. And I thought there was some really

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Speaker 11: interesting aspects of the start really is yesday.

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Speaker 10: First, that is still price pressure. The price that producers

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Speaker 10: That's well above CPI inflation. But if you look at.

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Speaker 11: Their input prices, that was up four point five percent.

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Speaker 10: So notice one's higher than the other.

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Speaker 11: In other words, in simple terms, they're absorbing some of

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Speaker 11: the input cost increases. The other key takeaway Mike, price

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Speaker 11: pressures in the farming sector appear to be lessening. The

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Speaker 11: farm index price index is now fallen for three consecutive quarters,

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Speaker 11: So at the moment, those guys are getting higher commodity

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Speaker 11: prices and lower input costs, which sounds pretty good, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, wish I was a farmer twenty five. I

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Speaker 2: mean everyone is twenty five. That's sort of thing, is it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's he going to say?

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Speaker 10: Is the key exactly?

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Speaker 11: So twenty five basis point cut really pretty much universally accepted.

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Speaker 10: I think you just said that. I think they neutral.

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Speaker 2: I think you did. I'm misquoting you.

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Speaker 10: I think no. I think there's a difference here. I

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Speaker 10: think neutral might be a little bit higher than that.

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Speaker 11: What I'm doing is questioning whether or not we need

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Speaker 11: to go to two and a half to give the

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Speaker 11: economy a boost.

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Speaker 10: We do a bit of a confidence where you.

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Speaker 2: And I agreed on that. Don't come on the program

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Speaker 2: start changing your mind, flip flopping all over the place.

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Speaker 10: Not flip flopping, Mike.

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Speaker 11: I'm saying there's a difference between where the rate should

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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike, hope you have a crack at the self

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Speaker 1: Trending now one a squarehouse, You're one star for Father's Day, Fragrance.

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Speaker 2: Right, the world of podcasts and who doesn't Love a podcast?

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Speaker 2: Trouble with Podcasts? Written yesterday. Guess how many people listen

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Speaker 13: It's gone off And I've heard that from a friend

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're not. I don't know. Building I got some insight.

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Speaker 2: Which Donald shortly as a devise that had tries that

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Speaker 2: Budapesta is at Switzerland World. Where do we go now?

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Speaker 2: He is in a couple of moments. Meantime at twenty

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Speaker 2: in some ways, of course, has been the poster child

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Speaker 2: the job losses in the last couple of years. We're

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Speaker 2: Kyl Taylor's the CEO of Combined Building Supplies co Op

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Speaker 2: and is back with us. Carl morning, Good morning, Mike,

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Speaker 2: how are you very well? Thank you? Is this the bottom?

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Speaker 15: I think we are at the bottom. It's certainly still

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Speaker 2: is there divergence in that when this twenty six vibe

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Speaker 15: Client hesitation's probably still the biggest issue with a lot

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Speaker 15: that just can't make up their mind whether they want

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Speaker 15: Carl keeps the economy flowing, keeps tells going.

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Speaker 2: You had a good bathroom there. You've got a lot

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Speaker 2: and this government's canceled everything. The government will tell you

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Speaker 2: because the last lot buggered the place. What's true.

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Speaker 3: Well, what I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So twenty six, are you going to have problems?

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Speaker 2: Given sixteen thousand have left, I'm assuming many have gone

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Speaker 2: Anyway, good stuff, Carl. Always a pleasure to have you

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Speaker 2: on the program. Carl Taylor, I don't think you brought

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Speaker 14: You get a lot of joy out of bathroom.

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Speaker 2: I get tremendous joy out of bathrooms at two thirty

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Speaker 14: Look you hang on, hang on, hang on.

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Speaker 2: Who was the construction minister? Poto and Megan Woods couldn't

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Speaker 19: Sixteen to two International Correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold outside, how are you?

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Speaker 20: I'm well good?

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Speaker 2: Much so as a Buddha pest is it? Switzerland is

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Speaker 2: at Moscow. Is it on? What's happening?

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Speaker 20: Those are all good questions, don't they?

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Speaker 16: What are we left with?

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Speaker 20: It was quite a scene at the White House with

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Speaker 20: something we haven't witnessed in the modern Here are seven

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Speaker 20: leaders of the Western lines scrambling to Washington in defense

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Speaker 20: of Ukraine's lisky. Mid meeting, Trump gets in line with

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Speaker 20: Russi's Putin and said he had sort of set up.

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Speaker 2: A meeting between Putin and z Linsey sort of.

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Speaker 20: The White House is pressing this with Trump's media reps

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Speaker 20: saying a short time ago.

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Speaker 21: President Trump spoke with President Putin by phone, and he

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Speaker 21: agreed to begin the next phase of the peace process,

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Speaker 21: a meeting between President Putin and President Zelensky. I understand

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Speaker 21: accommodations for that meeting are underway.

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Speaker 2: No details.

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Speaker 20: Russia's Foreign minister Lavrov refused comment, but also refused to

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Speaker 20: rule any of this out. But Russia just launched one

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Speaker 20: of its biggest attacks from Ukraine through the night, firing

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Speaker 20: two hundred and seventy drones ten missiles, hitting sixteen different

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Speaker 20: Ukrainian towns and cities. So what does that say about

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Speaker 20: peace hopes? Russia hit energy and transport sites and civilian areas.

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Speaker 20: As ever, it's been bloody. Trump now says there's a

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Speaker 20: coat warmth between him and Putin. And then came this

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Speaker 20: hot bike moment where Trump was whispering to French President

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Speaker 20: Macron about Putin.

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Speaker 3: I think he wants to make a deal for.

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Speaker 20: Putin wants to make a deal for me, says Trump.

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Speaker 20: So the war was all about what getting the Nobel

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Speaker 20: Prize for Trump wasn't Then there's the shuffle over future

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Speaker 20: security for Ukraine if all of this plays out, Trump

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Speaker 20: said yesterday, the US is all in trying to make

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Speaker 20: sure that any truce or whatever is not a repeat

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Speaker 20: of what you mentioned nineteen ninety four when the US,

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Speaker 20: Russia around Europe gave Ukraine security assurances which turned out

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Speaker 20: to be absolutely meaningless, said Trump of European security.

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Speaker 4: They are a first line of defense because they're there

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Speaker 4: the Europe.

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Speaker 22: But we're going to help them out.

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Speaker 2: Also, we'll be involved.

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Speaker 20: So that was a day ago, right now. Roll On

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Speaker 20: twenty four hours asked about what the US will do

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Speaker 20: in terms of offering any troops for this NATO style

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Speaker 20: security blanket. He told Fox Today it won't.

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Speaker 7: Be American boots on the ground defending that border.

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Speaker 4: Where do you have my assurance? And I'm president?

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Speaker 20: So again, what do we left with?

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Speaker 15: Mike?

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Speaker 20: It should be noted that Zelensky had all the Western

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Speaker 20: leaders have learned how to flatter and suck up to

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Speaker 20: President Trump. Here's a moment when foxes for the deuce,

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Speaker 20: he echoed Kremlin talking points and Zelensky refused to bite.

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Speaker 20: What patients the man has?

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Speaker 15: Are you prepared to keep send the Ukrainian troops to

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Speaker 15: their death for another couple of years?

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Speaker 6: Or are you going to agree to redraw the maps?

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Speaker 12: Thank you for your questions.

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Speaker 23: So, first of all, you know we live under easy attacks.

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Speaker 14: You know that today have been a lot.

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Speaker 20: Of the tax So is Zelensky sending Ukrainian troops to

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Speaker 20: their deaths or are Ukrainians finding courageously to protect their

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Speaker 20: homeland and their democracy. One commentator here is saying that

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Speaker 20: Kremlin could have not written the Fox question any better.

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Speaker 2: They arrived back the Dems in Texas. Where does that

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Speaker 2: redistricting gona?

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Speaker 20: Well, it's underway. We've seen big moves in Texas where

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Speaker 20: the Dems have ended a two week walkout. They left

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Speaker 20: the state trying to stop the electoral maps being redrawn.

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Speaker 20: In a way that would lock in five new Republican

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Speaker 20: congressional seats and perhaps a Republican majority in the Congress federally.

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Speaker 20: Them's tonight a quorum. Now the remaking of those electorates

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Speaker 20: is underway, with Democratic lawmakers underguard except for one, the

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Speaker 20: core Collier, who refused to agree to an armed escort.

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Speaker 20: So she is being held in the House chamber as

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Speaker 20: a sort of white political prisoner. People are outside chanting.

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Speaker 3: Let her out.

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Speaker 20: So, Mike, is this democras?

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Speaker 2: It is weird? As all right might see in a

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Speaker 2: couple of days. Richard Arnald State side should follow that.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting story because the Dems are doing similar

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Speaker 2: things in other states. So what they're trying to do

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Speaker 2: in redistricting, they basically are allowed to redraw the map,

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Speaker 2: And in redistricting the Dems are looking to counteract what

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Speaker 2: the Republicans are doing in Texas. So it all balances

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Speaker 2: out at the end of the day. It's the stupid

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Speaker 2: ass system. Newsmacks, by the way, I have settled with

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Speaker 2: dominion remited, dominion rand, the voting machines, and Newsmaks said

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Speaker 2: old bunch of random stuff about the election In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty that got settled yesterday one hundred million dollars. They

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Speaker 2: wrote the check for Fox wrote a fairly large check

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Speaker 2: to them as well, and the US State. This is

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Speaker 2: real and it's interesting because a lot of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: students end up at American universities. So far, the State

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Speaker 2: Department has rejected six thousand student visas. So this is

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Speaker 2: the whole. If you've said anything particularly random on social

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Speaker 2: media and you're a bit outspoken about certain parts of

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Speaker 2: the world and life and times, Rubio might find your

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Speaker 2: phone and then decide you're not going to Harvard. So

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Speaker 2: about four thousand of those revoked because basically the students

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Speaker 2: break the law. There's probably nothing wrong with that. I

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Speaker 2: don't think you can defend that you can't go to America,

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Speaker 2: study at Harvard or Stamford, then go out and break

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Speaker 2: American law and not expecting to get booted out. Two

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Speaker 2: to three hundred visas also revoked for terrorism done under

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Speaker 2: the INA three B rule. There's more than one point

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Speaker 2: one million international students from two hundred and ten countries

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Speaker 2: in US colleges, so it is a big, big business.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven the make Asking Breakfast with a Vida

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Speaker 1: retirement Communities News, togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be there, shivn away from seven. So this Trump claim

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Speaker 2: of seven wars at all, it's bs as usual. India

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Speaker 2: parks done in May, it's maybe maybe not. India rejects

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Speaker 2: the third party was involved in any way. Pakistan's nominated

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Speaker 2: Trump for a peace price. So some like it, some don't.

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Speaker 2: So let's give them. Let's give them one war. Let's

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Speaker 2: give them that one. A Democratic Republic of Congo and

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Speaker 2: Rwanda generally will give them a Yes, it's still ongoing,

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Speaker 2: but they signed, so we'll give them two wars. So

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Speaker 2: so far too up, two down. As a Bajan at Armenia,

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Speaker 2: there was a joint peace declaration signed just the other day.

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Speaker 2: They're at the table transportation corridor. It's called the Trump

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Speaker 2: Route for Peace and Prosperity. Said that the win so

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Speaker 2: three out of three. So the guy's on a roll.

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Speaker 2: Thailand Cambodia. Now this is where I got a bit

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Speaker 2: efy on this. That was not a war that lasted

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Speaker 2: a handful of days. There was a skirmish on the

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Speaker 2: border and he rang them up and he said, listen,

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Speaker 2: if you guys don't get it sorted out, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to increase somebody's tariffs, and so they stopped. Now, so

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a war, it was a skirmish. He did

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Speaker 2: solve it, so you can give him something. You can

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Speaker 2: give them half a point for that. Israel Iran? I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, is that over? Is that finished? Is Iran

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Speaker 2: finished for now? I guess you can argue yes, I

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Speaker 2: mean bomb them. The B twos went in. Have you

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Speaker 2: heard from Iran since no? So that's when. So he's

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Speaker 2: doing all right so far. Egypt Ethiopia dispute over the Nile.

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Speaker 2: That's a river. Both countries said, nothing's been solved, No

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Speaker 2: casualties linked to the dams. No, so he hasn't done

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Speaker 2: anything there, but he's claiming it, so he's wrong. Serbia

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Speaker 2: Kosovo says Serbia was about to clash but he ended it.

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Speaker 2: So there's a new rule of law, mission and native

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Speaker 2: peace plan also, so no, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 2: So there's two no's there, five maybes, five years. So

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Speaker 2: he's done five out of seven. But the next one,

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Speaker 2: if he gets this one done, that's the big one,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Then you reckon five minutes away from seven?

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the ouse, it's the biz with

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Speaker 1: business Fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now we're into where we're heading an insurance and if

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Speaker 2: you listen to the show on a regular basis, you

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Speaker 2: know how big I am on this. Your insurance world

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Speaker 2: is going to change in a dramatic way and the

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Speaker 2: ensuing year's Tower is starting to charge customers more for

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Speaker 2: your insurance of your properties at higher risipram, slat and

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Speaker 2: sea surges. So we're seeing this round various parts of

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Speaker 2: the country. Wellington, of course you'll be going, oh, what,

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Speaker 2: what's new here? Ten percent of customers who this effects

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Speaker 2: medium increase is going to be about two hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty dollars a year, So that's not the end of

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Speaker 2: the world, is it? And for the other ninety percent

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Speaker 2: it's about seventy dollars less. Now. Tower did a similar

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Speaker 2: risk based thing for earthquakes back in twenty eighteen six

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Speaker 2: percent homes are at risk of earthquakes. Then for the

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Speaker 2: floods in twenty twenty one, six percent of homes at

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Speaker 2: risk of flooding. Percentage of New Zealand homes at risk

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Speaker 2: of sea surges is currently five percent, while three percent

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Speaker 2: of increased risk of being affected by slips, so that's

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Speaker 2: a real thing. Now they take into account community efforts

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Speaker 2: to reduce the risks, like small groups putting up a

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Speaker 2: sea wall. I don't know that's true. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you go along and you go mate your houses

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Speaker 2: on the edge of a cliff and you go. But

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Speaker 2: Brian and I spent the weekend with a working bee

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Speaker 2: putting up the sea wall. They go, really, did you

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Speaker 2: show us a photo? I can't even that's true. They

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Speaker 2: just say two hundred. This is the other thing you

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Speaker 2: need to know about. The government has yet to decide

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Speaker 2: on this. The two hundred dollars plus hiker Natural Hazards Commission.

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Speaker 2: Levy Seymour's sort of overseeing this. They used to be

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Speaker 2: known as the Earthquake Commission, of course, but they're going

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Speaker 2: to charge you more for basically they can't afford to

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Speaker 2: cover you. So this is the stuff when stuff goes

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Speaker 2: wrong and you go to what was the earthquake called

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Speaker 2: Natural Hazards Commission and you get some money. It's never

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Speaker 2: covered everything. It never will cover everything. But it's covering

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Speaker 2: even less because there's too many natural events going on

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Speaker 2: in the country. So they're going to have to sting

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Speaker 2: you more. Now you will go. But isn't that inflationary?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that a cost plus? But yes it is. So

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Speaker 2: you're complaining about the councils, you can plain about the

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Speaker 2: government as well. But then again, what do you want?

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Speaker 2: Do you want no insurance cover? What are you going

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Speaker 2: to do? And this was where we bring in the

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Speaker 2: central banking Christian hawks? But you reckon he's got the job.

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Speaker 2: By the way, when are they going to announce that?

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Speaker 2: Has he got the job or someone else got the job? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: cash rate day to day will get some predictions for

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Speaker 2: you after the news, which is next here news talk

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Speaker 2: said be.

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Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between the Mike Costing breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Rainthrover leading by example, news togs.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So right, another ocr day. Everyone seems

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Speaker 2: to see the twenty five points being cut from the

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Speaker 2: cash rope. The real story of courses of the commentary.

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Speaker 2: Does the bank think they've done the job? Or is

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Speaker 2: there more where that came from? Today Jared Kirkie, why

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Speaker 2: Bank's chief economist is back with us. Jared, very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Good morning mind.

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Speaker 2: I must congratulate you because you've been consistent over the months.

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Speaker 2: You've said fifty to fifty to fifty points and you

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Speaker 2: need some more help from the bank. Do you think

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Speaker 2: ultimately you will be proved to be right?

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Speaker 17: I think we're getting close to the bottom and I

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Speaker 17: think that's, you know, where we need to be, and

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Speaker 17: it's what we've been calling for.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, twenty five today with how many more? One

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Speaker 2: or two?

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Speaker 18: Another?

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Speaker 4: Two?

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Speaker 2: So that gets us down to what two? Five? Two

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Speaker 2: point five?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Exactly. And while we're saying that, is that we think

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Speaker 17: neutrals are round three and slightly. Symmetry setting is what

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Speaker 17: we need.

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Speaker 2: Right, So do they see that? And if they don't

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Speaker 2: see it, could they have done it quicker?

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Speaker 17: They could have done it quicker. I mean they paused

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Speaker 17: last meeting, which I don't think was the right decision,

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Speaker 17: and here we are cutting today. I do think they

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Speaker 17: get it. Their current ocr track, which is their four cars,

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Speaker 17: suggests that they can go down to two seventy five.

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Speaker 17: So we're getting close. And I just think we need

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Speaker 17: to get us into symmetry territory to really get us

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Speaker 17: out of a recession.

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Speaker 2: How much of it's psychological and how much of it's real?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we keep saying twenty five and something will happen,

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Speaker 2: and then all these people are on their fixed rates

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Speaker 2: and they will go, well, you know, and run around,

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Speaker 2: we go it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 3: Has it? No?

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Speaker 13: Not yet.

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Speaker 17: You need to get instrates to a level where it

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Speaker 17: actually kicks in and it stimulates and it gets people talking,

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Speaker 17: it gets people excited, and we're not there. When I

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Speaker 17: talk to property investors, you know, mortgage rates at five percent,

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Speaker 17: they're a lot better than what they were, you know,

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Speaker 17: seven and a half percent last year, but they're not

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Speaker 17: at levels that are enticing them. Rental yields are not there.

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Speaker 17: They're at three and a half percent, they're not at five.

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Speaker 17: You talk to businesses and that's just nervous that they're

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Speaker 17: not ready to go out and invest correct.

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Speaker 2: What's your vibe on Christian? Is he going to tell

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Speaker 2: us what he needs to tell us today or is

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Speaker 2: he going to play it close to his chest so

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Speaker 2: he doesn't overplay his hand. From his point of view.

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Speaker 17: Well, he played it close to his chest and May,

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Speaker 17: which I think was the wrong decision. I think he

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Speaker 17: should have been a bit more aggressive, a bit more

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Speaker 17: pro growth. So I think we'll get a bit more

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Speaker 17: of what we saw in May today he will cut.

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Speaker 17: He will point to the need for another one, but

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Speaker 17: he's playing his cards very close to his chest.

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Speaker 2: Is it him or is it the committee? Or is

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Speaker 2: it both? Are they all of the similar realk They

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Speaker 2: sit in a room in Wellington's stare at spreadshets.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, they do as part of the gig. And I

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Speaker 17: do think they're being cautious with what's going on overseas,

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Speaker 17: and there is a bit of residual inflation locally that

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Speaker 17: they're worried about. I just think they need to look

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Speaker 17: through it. This time next year, we think inflation is

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Speaker 17: going to be below two percent, and that gives them

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Speaker 17: plenty of your headon to cut.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what happens. Apreciate your time as always.

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Speaker 2: Jared Kirkkey, We Bank chief Economists. Ten minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: More confirmation that absurd numbers of our children can't read

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Speaker 2: or do maths properly. Twenty four percent listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four percent of year eight students meet the newly

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Speaker 2: implemented standards for writing twenty four So that's seventy six

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Speaker 2: because I can do maths, seventy six percent who don't.

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Speaker 2: So the Writing Action Plan has been launched along with

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Speaker 2: all the other action plans to dig ourselves out of

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Speaker 2: this educational whole. Erica Stanford is the Education Minister back

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Speaker 2: with us. Good morning, Good morning, mate. Explain this to me,

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Speaker 2: so writing when you start in year three, don't start

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Speaker 2: in the year three. By year three, forty one percent

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Speaker 2: of people meet the standard thirty three, by year six,

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Speaker 2: twenty four, by year eight. That looks like they go

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Speaker 2: to school and go backwards.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, does look like that. Longer you stay at school,

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Speaker 24: the worse the results. And that is the reason for

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Speaker 24: that is we've had a very bad curriculum which has

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Speaker 24: now been replaced this year. We've had teaching practices teaching

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Speaker 24: children to read that make them guess the word and

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Speaker 24: read the whole sentence and then think about the context

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Speaker 24: and guess the word. I mean, this is basically the

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Speaker 24: results of years and years and years of decline and

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Speaker 24: poor practice and a poor curriculum. And that's changed from

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Speaker 24: this year. But those baseline results are pretty grim.

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Speaker 2: Yes they are. You speak and I watched you again

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Speaker 2: yesterday when you were doing a press conference at that school.

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Speaker 2: You speak of these programs like doctors speak of penicillin. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, if I give you penicillin, the cure

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Speaker 2: is there. Do you know that what you're doing is

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Speaker 2: going to work? Or do you just hope, like hell

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Speaker 2: it does.

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Speaker 24: Every single thing we've implemented has been evidence based and

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Speaker 24: already has results. So, for example, when we implemented structured

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Speaker 24: literacy and mandated it across the entire system, that wasn't

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Speaker 24: just a finger in the one let's hope it works.

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Speaker 24: That was based on years and years and years, in fact,

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Speaker 24: decades of cognitive research, and a whole lot of schools

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Speaker 24: had already implemented it and we could see the enormous

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Speaker 24: accelerated effect of it. And the same will be with

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Speaker 24: this writing tool. There's a few things we really struggle

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Speaker 24: with handwriting in this country because essentially haven't been doing

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Speaker 24: it enough and we haven't been done it properly. So

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Speaker 24: the new Handwriting Guide will tell teachers exactly how to

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Speaker 24: teach handwriting, truly new toll that we.

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Speaker 2: Will right tremendous responsibility on you, and we blame the

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Speaker 2: schools and all that. Where are the parents in all

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Speaker 2: of this? I mean maths, I get because maths is funny,

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Speaker 2: but reading isn't. Where are the parents?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 24: That is a good question, and I think there's a

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Speaker 24: couple of answers to that. Firstly, I feel like there

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Speaker 24: has been a little bit of a Chinese wall between

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Speaker 24: schools and parents, which is why we launched the Parent Portal.

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Speaker 24: Here is everything your child will be learning in year

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Speaker 24: one in English, so you can see, and here are

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Speaker 24: a whole lot of resources you can help out at home.

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Speaker 24: Parents didn't have access to that before. They were flying

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Speaker 24: a little bit blind. And they turn up to a

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Speaker 24: parent teacher interview and your kids sitting right there beside you.

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Speaker 24: It's no longer an an honest conversation between you and

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Speaker 24: the t it's child lead. For goodness sake, you know,

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Speaker 24: we've got to give power back to the parents and

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Speaker 24: say you are demanding customers. You also have a responsibility

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Speaker 24: when things are falling behind. You have to do something

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Speaker 24: at home as well. And look, but you're right, you

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Speaker 24: know we're going to have something more to say next next,

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Speaker 24: in the next few weeks about a plan for next year.

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Speaker 24: In terms of engaging parents in literacy and reading at home,

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Speaker 24: the most important thing you can do is speak and

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Speaker 24: read to your child.

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Speaker 2: Well, let us know when you're doing that. We'll get

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Speaker 2: you on again appreciated Erica Stamford, who's the education minister?

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen minutes past seven pastlight to I the only

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Speaker 2: person seeing the irony of teachers striking the day after

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Speaker 2: the announcement that our children's literacy and numeracy have hit

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Speaker 2: record lows. No, you're not mourning, Mike. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: all the schools we're doing to mark down the students's

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Speaker 2: that down the students has unjustified absence? What about the teachers?

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Speaker 15: Is this?

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Speaker 2: I read those out? That's just a small selection of

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Speaker 2: what I get on strike day. More for teachers than nurses,

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Speaker 2: I must admit. Is that a vibe? What are we

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Speaker 2: sick of the teachers striking? Is that the teachers striking?

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Speaker 2: Or is that the union's driving it? Should we be

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Speaker 2: playing teachers on merit as opposed to just paying teachers

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Speaker 2: for turning up in the classroom like the unions want.

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Speaker 2: Are New Zealanders broadly speaking out of patients with teachers

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Speaker 2: or is it just a small collection? Who hit the text?

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Speaker 2: On the my Casking Breakfast Show fourteen past seven, The.

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Speaker 2: Talks at be Mike good point, do we have visibility

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Speaker 2: on the breakdown of that twenty four percent? Is that

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Speaker 2: made up mainly private school pupils and therefore the public

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Speaker 2: school statistics are even worse than that, and the teachers

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Speaker 2: want more money seems counterproductive. It's an interesting point. Geographic

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Speaker 2: geography would play a fairly big part in that. I

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Speaker 2: suspect as well. Right seventeen past seven of the Business

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Speaker 2: of sport, the Blues and their Super Rugby team are

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Speaker 2: moving to Go Media for a couple of games next year.

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Speaker 2: Go Media Stadium, this of course the home of the

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Speaker 2: Warriors in Auckland FC. Now Nick Saunton is the CEO

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Speaker 2: of Eden Park and is with us on this. Nick

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Speaker 2: Morning good Morning might take his time, no worries. Is

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Speaker 2: this a gut punch.

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Speaker 25: Well, we're still working closely with Auckland Rugby, Auckland Unlimited

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Speaker 25: and the Blues to finalize the twenty twenty six Super

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Speaker 25: Agby schedule. But having the right event and the right

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Speaker 25: venue is important and the Blues negotiation probably highlights the

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Speaker 25: need for a broader conversation regarding the Auckland Stadium network.

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Speaker 25: And then you have best it along with what's best Auckland.

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Speaker 25: When we optimize and utilize our stadium methots, do.

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Speaker 2: You lose money or do the Blues lose money every

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Speaker 2: time they go to Edon Park? Is that the problem

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Speaker 2: they go to a smaller stadium.

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Speaker 25: Now every time they come to Eden Park they make

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Speaker 25: money before a balls kicked the commercial terms with the Blues,

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Speaker 25: meaning that they are significantly advantaged by our programs like

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Speaker 25: our membership program, but also a number of the initiatives

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Speaker 25: we've implemented over the last two years to assist with

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Speaker 25: their ongoing viability.

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Speaker 2: Well, do they make more money going to go Media then.

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Speaker 25: I'm not privy to the arrangements. Obviously Go Meetia as

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Speaker 25: a council controlled venue, eating parks to charitable trust and

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Speaker 25: we do work closely with Auckland Unlimited. And I do

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Speaker 25: think as I mentioned, this whole utilizer of starting infrastructure

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Speaker 25: in Auckland, maximizing attendances, but also what's best of the city.

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Speaker 25: Given that Eden Park is the national stadium with the

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Speaker 25: Corol opening will be seven minutes to town. We need

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Speaker 25: to get more people back to rugby and we want

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Speaker 25: to work with both ns ARE and also the Blues

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Speaker 25: to ensure that that's the case.

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Speaker 2: What if it goes really well and they go there's

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Speaker 2: six games the following season at go Media, then what happens.

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Speaker 25: Well, we'll have to look for new content and that's

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Speaker 25: been a focus at OURS over the last five years

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Speaker 25: where we've divers fighted our content. We've got events like

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Speaker 25: Arten the Park, the Hot Wheels, Monster Trucks, International League,

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Speaker 25: Metallica International Cricket, the Edinburgh Tattoo. But rugby is critical

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Speaker 25: for us, Mike. As you can imagine, next year is

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Speaker 25: the thirty year anniversary of Super Rugby, so for us

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Speaker 25: we want to be celebrating with the Blues thirty.

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Speaker 2: Years of Super Rugby. That's another one of those weird

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Speaker 2: things where I go, how long Super Rugby have been going?

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Speaker 2: I reckon I'd say fifteen. Anyway, Nick, appreciate it. Nick Saortaner,

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Speaker 2: who's the of Eden Park Erica needs to tell schools

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Speaker 2: to get on with that. I'm a teacher in schools

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Speaker 2: can make changes now as a teacher, Mike, I just

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Speaker 2: was Erica was in charge years ago. Everything she says

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Speaker 2: makes one hundred percent sense. Pay teachers on merrit Michael,

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Speaker 2: that's never going to happen. You and I can dream.

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Speaker 2: Mike wouldn't mind a parliament full of Erica's attitude. Should

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Speaker 2: kids be taking parents discool? It's not a bad point.

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Speaker 2: I've got more to say on that in the moment,

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Speaker 2: Mike remind me who was the Minister of Education in

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Speaker 2: the last six years that I think bordering on being

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Speaker 2: unfair to neet is your answer, But it goes back

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Speaker 2: further than that. The decline has been multi government, so

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Speaker 2: I don't think you want to lay it directly at

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Speaker 2: Ali obviously they didn't help. Yeah, back to the classroom

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Speaker 2: and parents in the moment.

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Speaker 2: all sorted out, she has far too early, haven't given

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Speaker 2: it a moment's thought. And actually I believed her. You

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Speaker 2: I actually believed it. Seven twenty three. Now can I

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Speaker 2: ask you a question about parents? I sort of asked Erica.

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Speaker 2: A moment ago, I watched Erica, as I told I,

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Speaker 2: do that press conference yesterday at a school in Wellington

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Speaker 2: launching this writing action plan. And while I was watching that,

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Speaker 2: I was reading story about Niola Willis, who it was

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Speaker 2: And now she'd gone to the New Zealand if you've

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Speaker 2: missed this piece of nonsense, as she'd gone to the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Society on her trip last week, stood there

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Speaker 2: in a tangerine suiting. There had been a buzz about

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Speaker 2: the room as they wondered whether this was New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: next prime minister. It was a very weird story and

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Speaker 2: says a lot about the modern media. And it means nothing,

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Speaker 2: of course, but if it ever came down to it,

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Speaker 2: I'd take Stamford over Willis all day long. She is

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Speaker 2: a force of nature. Stanford. And if you ever want

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Speaker 2: to see a minister in charge of detail what you're

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Speaker 2: in a classroom in front of cameras, you won't fail

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Speaker 2: to be impressed. Bad news, though part of the day

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Speaker 2: involved this release of the data showing our kids in

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Speaker 2: year three, six and eight they're in real trouble when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the maths and reading, A small minority

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Speaker 2: are where they should be, a small minority, our small

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Speaker 2: minority are where they should be. So the claim is

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Speaker 2: at this stage by Stanford is what they've introduced and

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Speaker 2: are introducing is the turnaround plan, is the magic, the cure,

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Speaker 2: the panacea. Not that it makes it better. But the

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Speaker 2: numbers out yesterday were marked against some of the new standards,

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Speaker 2: hence the mass of failure rate. Now this stuff is

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Speaker 2: benchmark internationally. As she told us a moment ago, and

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Speaker 2: once not long ago, maybe when I was at school.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. In a lot of stuff, we actually

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Speaker 2: lead the world today. We are so far from leading

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Speaker 2: the world. It makes you want to cry. Stanford isn't crying.

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Speaker 2: She speaks in a way that suggests you know something

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Speaker 2: the rest of us don't like. She's seen the future

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Speaker 2: and it's bright, or it could be. She just hopes

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Speaker 2: it is and is faking it till she makes it.

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Speaker 2: Because the gap between where our kids are and where

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Speaker 2: they need to be as gargantuan. So back to the parents,

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Speaker 2: where are they maths? As I suggested to Erica a moment,

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Speaker 2: you can sort of I mean, it can be tricky

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Speaker 2: maths if you want to find an excuse, But reading

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Speaker 2: and writing isn't A kid who can't read or write

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Speaker 2: properly by high school, And that's what we're dealing with here.

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Speaker 2: By high school is a reflection of their home life.

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Speaker 2: As much as the school, schools take too much heat,

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Speaker 2: I reckon governments take too much heat. If your kid

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Speaker 2: can't read or write, and your kid is twelve thirteen

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Speaker 2: years old, where have you been hosking?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: I teach at a private school, so obviously no way

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Speaker 2: I'm getting to day off. However, even if it was

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Speaker 2: a public school, I would not be in the union.

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Speaker 2: Almost all my teaching friends in public schools are also

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Speaker 2: not in the union. Those who have found excuses not

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Speaker 2: to go to the strike today and are writing workshops

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Speaker 2: for their students. Many of us teachers think the union

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Speaker 2: is out of touch and pushing for students rather than teachers,

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Speaker 2: and the verification rather than the curriculum. It's not a

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Speaker 2: bad point. Quick question for you, is anybody anybody in

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Speaker 2: this country not thinking what I am about Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: and what he did yesterday? How good? I mean, it

999
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Speaker 2: took him too long? If I'm going to criticize one thing.

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Speaker 2: It took him too long. I would have done at

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Speaker 2: day one, the moment I arrived as Foreign Minister. But

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Speaker 2: bringing Mallard home, that little cretitous twat bringing him home

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Speaker 2: early good on Winston and his defense. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know that Winston's a bit obsessed about the protests and

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Speaker 2: spraying them in music, and that's just the twettishness that

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Speaker 2: you got from Mallard. But the more important point that

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Speaker 2: he made yesterday is that you don't spend your life

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Speaker 2: in the diplomatic service, building your skills and your contacts

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Speaker 2: only to be usurped by an idiot like Mallard because

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Speaker 2: he's a political appointment, and that's applicable to many people

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Speaker 2: who have become political appointment. So getting Mallard home was

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Speaker 2: probably the best thing Winston Peters will do this entire term.

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Speaker 2: And I ask you that question again, is there a

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Speaker 2: single New Zealander who thinks that what he did yesterday

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Speaker 2: was the wrong thing?

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Speaker 1: News is Next, New Zealand's home for trusted news and views,

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural news talks dead b.

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Speaker 2: Mark and Jinny after Oat Politics Wednesday twenty three to

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Speaker 2: ah speaking which we joined the Trade minister on the

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Speaker 2: road this want to use in Saudi on his way

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Speaker 2: to Washington. Tariffs at fifteen percent worse than places like

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Speaker 2: the UK and Australia. Of course, the Hoper's arms can

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Speaker 2: be twisted at Todd McLay Trade Ministers backward.

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Speaker 16: This morning, make of money.

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Speaker 2: Before we talk talk about Washington, talk to me about

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. Is the sort of the emirates in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East matures?

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Speaker 19: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you bullish about what we've signed there and what

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Speaker 2: we're doing there?

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Speaker 16: Yes, I am.

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Speaker 23: This is I think it's my fourth trip up here

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Speaker 23: since the election, and the relationship is growing. I had

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Speaker 23: a chance to meet quite a few New Zealand companies

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Speaker 23: that are doing work here. There's a huge amount of

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Speaker 23: construction going on, but the government meetings that I'm having,

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Speaker 23: they want to do a whole lot with us, and

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Speaker 23: you know, it's just another footprint in the Middle East

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Speaker 23: where Kiwi exporters, you know, can do well.

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Speaker 2: From my observation, the Middle East in general seem like

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Speaker 2: what you would call genuine free traders. So they're not.

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Speaker 2: We're not tied up in a lot of paperwork and

1044
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Speaker 2: red tape and ideology. Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that is right, And that's that's a change over

1046
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Speaker 23: the last ten years. I think when I've traineding this

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Speaker 23: the last time, it was a pretty tough place for

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Speaker 23: Kiwis to do business. Saudi, as an example, is quite

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Speaker 23: open now. They are welcoming the world. They have people

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Speaker 23: from everywhere there want, you know, want companies to come

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Speaker 23: and set up. They see they just see themselves as

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Speaker 23: you know, being quite open, and there's a real sense

1053
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Speaker 23: of vibrancy and energy here. It's almost as if you know,

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Speaker 23: anything can happen and it's all good, all right.

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Speaker 2: Next up Washington, what chance you get something tangible?

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Look, I'm not going there to get the tariffrate off

1058
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Speaker 23: and that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 16: So I want to be pretty clear.

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Speaker 23: But what the President has done has said every single

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Speaker 23: country that had a trade surplus last year against the

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Speaker 23: US is fifteen percent or more. But what I'm going

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Speaker 23: up to do is one express you know the harm

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Speaker 23: that I think that's doing to trade. But then secondly,

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Speaker 23: what's the process for us to have that tarifyrate come

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Speaker 23: down if we move back to the US having a

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Speaker 23: surplus of deficit, which actually most of the time our

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Speaker 23: trade has been in the other direction and is generally

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Speaker 23: going to buy planes, gives and stuff the government's likely

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Speaker 23: to do. So what's the process from here. Secondly, we

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Speaker 23: just need so much more certainty for our exporters. If

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Speaker 23: it's going to keep changing, tell us that so that

1073
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Speaker 23: they can work out where the risk is and.

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Speaker 16: What they're going to do. So we'll be up there.

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Speaker 23: Look, it's going to be a robust conversation, but it's

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Speaker 23: a very very important one for a sister to start

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Speaker 23: doing that.

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Speaker 2: So the bloke you deal with, this Jameson Grew guy,

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Speaker 2: who is he and does he make any decisions? And

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Speaker 2: how far short of the president is he? And I

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Speaker 2: mean is he really a good contact point?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, he's very good.

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Speaker 23: So he's the United States trade representative, that's their trade

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00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 23: their trade minister. I suppose you put it. He's the

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00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 23: one that's doing most of the negotiation with China at

1086
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 23: the moment. The other part or part in this is

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00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 23: their Commerce secretary, who also is involved with other parts

1088
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 23: of the world. But I think what's really really clear

1089
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 23: is that the final decision on what happens rests with

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Speaker 23: President Trump. And in my conversation with jameson Greer, less

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Speaker 23: than twenty four hours after you know, the President made

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Speaker 23: the announcement of New Zealand other countries going up by

1093
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 23: that five percent, it was as simple as this. The

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00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 23: President said, give me a list of all the to

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00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 23: the surface about fifteen percent of more, and he put

1096
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Speaker 23: a ring around them. And so the decision, the final

1097
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 23: decision making, is in the White House.

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Speaker 2: So from his point of view, Trump's point of view,

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Speaker 2: you can understand his logic. Is that fair? I mean,

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00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: we do have there is a surplus there, and he

1101
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Speaker 2: wants to balance that.

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Speaker 23: Well, yeah, well, well you know our surplus is modest.

1103
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 23: It's five hundred million dollars. I mean, I was in

1104
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 23: Indonesia a week ago and there's a sixteen billion, right,

1105
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 23: and so they're sitting at nineteen percent.

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Speaker 16: So I do get that he wants to balance that out.

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Speaker 23: But if you think about New Zealand and the case

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00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 23: that I will continue to make to them, US goods

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00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 23: into New Zealand average.

1110
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 16: Face a zero point three percent teriff rate.

1111
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 23: We are an open economy, We respect the rules there

1112
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 23: is nothing stopping trade with the US, and so ultimately,

1113
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 23: you know, there's not that much we can do, although

1114
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 23: it will swing in the other direction. But I think

1115
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 23: the important thing, Mike is you know, the US is

1116
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 23: still an important market and we're still selling up there.

1117
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 23: As tariff rates go up, of course it becomes harder,

1118
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 23: but there is growing evidence that this is inflationary and

1119
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 23: the costs have been passed on in many cases to

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Speaker 23: yours consumers. So I think there's a long way to

1121
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Speaker 23: go yet before you know exactly how this tariff new

1122
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 23: tariff raising and putting in place is going to work.

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Speaker 2: What he seems to like as deals, why don't you

1124
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Speaker 2: buy a couple of planes or something.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well, we'll be talking about that certainly, But I

1126
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 23: don't know that we should rush out and do something

1127
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 23: just straight away.

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Speaker 16: I mean, ultimately we're going to keep doing what we're doing.

1129
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Speaker 16: There'll be things that get brought from America and you know,

1130
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 16: things that will buy from them. But it is the

1131
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 16: start of that conversation.

1132
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Speaker 23: When I met James and Grea in Corea a couple

1133
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Speaker 23: of months ago, and I think it was a third

1134
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Speaker 23: time i'd had a conversation with him, He was very frank.

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Speaker 16: He said, you are the good guys. We don't really

1136
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Speaker 16: have a problem with you.

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Speaker 23: We're negotiating with all the other countries of the world

1138
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 23: that have big, big trade surpluses or very high terriff

1139
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 23: you're not that We should sit down and talk later

1140
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 23: in the year. As a result of the press at

1141
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 23: making this decision, let's move some of that conversation forward.

1142
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 23: So look, I'm not going I'm going to be clear

1143
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 23: again that the fifteen percent is not coming off. That's

1144
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 23: the new flow for anybody with our surplus. But we

1145
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 23: need to see the process forward and get them much

1146
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 23: more certainty for our exports because you know, in the end,

1147
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 23: if it happens again for any reason he decided to

1148
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 23: put it up against those countries, it really is going

1149
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 23: to start biting.

1150
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it, travel well, Tom McClay, Trade Minister, Mike,

1151
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: we always turn a negative into a positive. We're going

1152
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: to do renovations in our bathroom year thirteen. Son on

1153
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: a day off due to the teacher strike, will help

1154
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: strip out the bathroom today, helping rationalize our cost plus.

1155
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: He heads to his bank account for a tiger you

1156
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: need for next year. There you go that is not

1157
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: completely completely wasted eighteen to two The.

1158
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1159
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,120
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Speaker 2: It'd be Mike tom McClay is able to communicate his

1161
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: answers clearly and simply, and the interview I felt like

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Speaker 2: I genuinely learned something. That's good. Mike tom mcclay's gone

1163
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 2: up in my estimation this term. He's got the goods,

1164
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: Tony I was all of them anyway, So if he's

1165
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: improved in your eyes, that's good. Our best story of

1166
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: the day, is it the best story of the day?

1167
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty close. Are the balls the US

1168
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: opens on at the moment, the US Tennis Open Flushing Meadow,

1169
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: of course, the fame Flushing Meadow. Are the bulls are

1170
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Speaker 2: New Zealand. The wall for the bulls comes from New Zealand.

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: Romney sheep crossbred Romney sheep. So they supply Woolworks as

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Speaker 2: the company. They're the scar of biggest scar in the country. Woolworks.

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Speaker 2: They supply a textile manufacturer in Thailand called Tti Sports

1174
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: who make the balls and there's going to be one

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00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: hundred thousand Wilson balls at the US Open. So your

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00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: crossbred wool, it's blended with a thread wrapped around a

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Speaker 2: rubber corn. Microns of thirty two through thirty six are perfect.

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Speaker 2: And we make a good romney, and the romney makes

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00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: the good wall, and the wall goes to Thailand. And

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Speaker 2: the next stopper is Flushing Meadow, New York, New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: What do you have to feed the sheep to get

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00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 14: them to go there?

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Speaker 2: Color green or yellow? It's tricking. It's not bad. Ah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the other thing I noted this morning

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Speaker 2: of that, do you remember? I feel like you know

1186
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: when you watch television programs. Everyone watches television programs even

1187
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: though they don't. And certainly it's not the case anymore.

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00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: But I used to love Grand Designs. I thought Grand

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Speaker 2: Design Kip McLeod's sort of a hero of mine. He's

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00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: a very likable guy, done a lot of interesting things

1191
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: in the world of architecture and design and stuff like that.

1192
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: And Grand Designs is a fantastically successful program internationally. And

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00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: dare I suggest, with no personal disrespect to the people

1194
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: who have been bold locally, but the spin offs have

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00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: been a fairly poor shade of the original. It's a

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00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: very good example of unless you can make the spinoff

1197
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: as good as the original, don't bother. And they tried

1198
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: here and it didn't work. I think they tried in

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Speaker 2: Australia didn't work either. Anyway. The most famous story from

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00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: Grand Designs was, of course that house in Devon, the

1201
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: kind of the castle in Devon. The guy Edward Short,

1202
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: remember him. He was a recorder, a music executive, and

1203
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: he built this thing and it looked the plan was amazing,

1204
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: and you looked at it and you thought, my god,

1205
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: if he ever pulls this off water house, except of

1206
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: course he didn't. And in the ensuing period he did

1207
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: what always happens. He goes over the budget. But he

1208
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: went over and over and over and over and over

1209
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: the budget. But he wouldn't listen, he wouldn't change. He

1210
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: was determined. He became a man obsessed. Unfortunately the missus

1211
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: wasn't overly obsessed with him, so she left, So the

1212
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 2: marriage fell apart. The banks started going, mate, you can't

1213
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: have any more money. And this thing's gone on for years.

1214
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: I think I think the original thing started back in

1215
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: twenty twelves. There's been well over a decade old, and

1216
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: he finally got it done. It kind of broke him

1217
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: and he had depression. And but the point of it is,

1218
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: and it's that fantastic interface between I don't know, obsession, humanity, art, dreaming, genius, madness,

1219
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: it's all in there. This house, to my eye, is

1220
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: absolutely spectacular.

1221
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Speaker 18: Well see, this is not the lesson that I think

1222
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 18: that Missus Husking Hawksby Mary to take from this.

1223
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: No, but the problem with it was is it owes

1224
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: him more than he's ever going to get back. He

1225
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: listed it for ten million pounds, so twenty one twenty

1226
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: two million New Zealand dollars, which in Devon is like

1227
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: you may as well ask for six trillion because no

1228
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: one's living in Devon for that money. It's sold overnight

1229
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: for five point twenty five. So he's lost or the

1230
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: bank at this point because they rang him up and

1231
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: said there's no more.

1232
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Speaker 14: And so he creates his dream house and then he

1233
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 14: just flogs it off.

1234
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: He has to because he owes money, and he's a

1235
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: broken man because of it. So the point is, but

1236
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: the point is he did something magnificent that will stand

1237
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: the test of time. He just doesn't own it. So

1238
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: if I was his psychiatrist, I'd say, see the good

1239
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: in that that you've contributed something tangible that others will

1240
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: enjoy for time immemorial. And that was you, and that

1241
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: is your contribution to the world. The fact you don't

1242
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: own it, don't be too down about it. The fact

1243
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: you still owe five million pounds to the bank, don't

1244
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: worry about that either. And can you pay for the

1245
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: session as you leave please? Nine minutes away from eight the.

1246
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Speaker 1: Main Hosking breakfast with rainthrowver news, Tog's dead bet away.

1247
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: From it got a scrap and Nelson councilor by law

1248
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: banning advertising flags. You know there's advertising flags outside shops.

1249
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: Coffee on Queen has been threatened with a five hundred

1250
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: dollars fine forced to remove the flag. It attracts an

1251
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: estimated two to three hundred dollars in foot traffic. Apparently.

1252
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: Matt Redwood is the co owner of the place in

1253
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: he's with us, Matt, Morning, morning, Mike.

1254
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Speaker 13: How are you today?

1255
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: Very well? Indeed is this new? This law is not new?

1256
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 13: I take it no, We've We've been in this business

1257
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 13: five years men, my wife and this law came into

1258
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 13: a figus. By law came in the sixth in November,

1259
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 13: and we never knew about it until about three weeks ago,

1260
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 13: just after the floods, the councilman came down and told

1261
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 13: us all the business we had to remove their flags.

1262
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: Are there lots of flags.

1263
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 13: On the main street of Richmond. I will probably count

1264
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 13: twenty down the main street, so it's quite affected businesses.

1265
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask, do you know it's

1266
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: effective or you think it's effective?

1267
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 13: No, I definitely know it's effective because what you open

1268
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 13: so early in the morning's mike and people just tell

1269
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 13: me we know you're open because your flag's out, and

1270
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 13: of to other businesses down the street and they hidden

1271
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 13: buy kinder boxes and stuff and they put their flags

1272
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 13: out and people know where they are. Right, it's yeah,

1273
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 13: it's driving. Yeah, there's taking a lot of money out

1274
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 13: of our pocket.

1275
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Do you do you have people complain about the flags.

1276
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 13: I've never had a first to complain at the flag,

1277
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 13: never ever, because they're once.

1278
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: They are a bit flappy on a windy day, aren't

1279
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: they. They can they swing around, they can hit you, can't.

1280
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 13: They Our foot path here which is two and a

1281
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 13: half meters wide, So yeah, so it's a very wide

1282
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 13: foot path. So between with my flag sits and where

1283
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 13: the shop is two meters gat so you're virtually walking

1284
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 13: in the car doors if you're walking tow the flag

1285
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 13: deput Well.

1286
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: When the person comes in from the council, what do

1287
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: they I mean, what do they call themselves? Are they

1288
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: the flag ticket?

1289
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: What?

1290
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: What are they called? I'm from the council.

1291
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 13: First of all, it was the parking warden who had

1292
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 13: to issue the first one, so he was the first protocol.

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Speaker 13: And then we had a gentleman come down from the

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Speaker 13: council who controls the bylaws, and him and me had

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Speaker 13: caught a heated discussion about it, and I just said

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Speaker 13: that this is cost of this money? How did this

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Speaker 13: come about? And we didn't get confrontation on this. It

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Speaker 13: was just like pushed through without nobody knowing.

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Speaker 2: Did he buy a coffee?

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Speaker 13: No he didn't.

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Speaker 16: Not a pry I know, right.

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Speaker 2: So what are you what are you going to do? Nothing?

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Speaker 13: You can nothing off They've told us we can. We

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 13: can go up there and reapply to this be looked

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Speaker 13: at after six months because there's an election coming up

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Speaker 13: and I'm kind of staying to the council you can

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00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 13: look at this now like we should be able to

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Speaker 13: get a change now, like not harping to sit around

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00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 13: and go we can fix this, or we can come

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Speaker 13: to compromise. They just don't want to do anything.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's what's a what's a long black? How much

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Speaker 2: you're charging?

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Speaker 13: We're four fifty? This is rich for Lord Auckland's.

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Speaker 2: You've got two and a half meter wide footpaths and

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Speaker 2: four fifty coffee. Yep, I don't know what I'm doing here, mate, listen,

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00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: I wish you the best with it. Matt Redwood, co

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Speaker 2: owner of Coffee on Queen.

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Speaker 14: I think we're moving the show me for goodness.

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00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Sake, four dollars fifty and two and a half meter

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Speaker 2: wide foot parts.

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Speaker 14: As he tried sticking one in a cone with that

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Speaker 14: bear way around it.

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00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: SBS are offering three point nine nine percent mortgage money.

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Speaker 2: First time buyer's got to be a first time buyer,

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Speaker 2: But three point ninety nine you crack three, So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not that's not an ad. I'm just saying I'm

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Speaker 2: interested in people getting into their first time and I'm

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00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: not interested in people moaning about how expensive it Isn't

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Speaker 2: it like there's an answer. Get three point nine nine

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Speaker 2: from SBS, Go buy a house and Nelson go buy

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Speaker 2: in Richmond. You've got two and a half meter wide

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: foot pass, you got four dollar fifty coffee, you got

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00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: three ninety nine mortgage money, you got a first home.

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Speaker 2: Come on News and then we'll do Mark and Ginny

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00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: and then we'll get to Steve across the Tasma that

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: big round table they're having the elbow idea that we're

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00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: going to fix Australia with a round table. That's under way.

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00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: So we'll see how the see how meantime, As I

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Speaker 2: say News, this next year of News Talk seven.

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Speaker 26: Mazie setting me agenda and talking the big issues, the

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Speaker 26: Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, Life your Way,

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Speaker 26: News Talks head Be.

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Speaker 2: We haven't done music like this for one Now, this

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: is Ellison Goldfrapp. She is pop royalty. That's what it

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01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: says in front of me. She's pop royalty. So that's

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Speaker 2: that's good marketing from them, because you say that enough

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Speaker 2: that it'll turn out to be true. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: her second full length album and amongst the catchiest of

1349
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Speaker 2: her quarter century careers. So what I'm reading from that

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: is she's been around for twenty five years and this

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Speaker 2: is only your second album.

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Speaker 18: So the question, no, no, you've mess read it, You've

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Speaker 18: left out the word. But once again, Uklim, you've got

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Speaker 18: perfect vision. Oh second solo.

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Speaker 2: Album, No it doesn't say solo, it's is her second

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Speaker 2: full length album.

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Speaker 18: Well, I'm telling you it's a second solo album anyway,

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Speaker 18: because she used to be at a band that was

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Speaker 18: just called Goldfrap.

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Speaker 2: That is correct. Her music is Goldfrap with Will Gregory.

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Speaker 2: So I read that as well. Don't think I hadn't

1362
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: done the research on this monkly as you were anyway.

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Speaker 2: So she's done the Goldfrap slash Gregory stuff plenty of

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Speaker 2: albums in the twenty five year period, but only gone

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Speaker 2: solo twice.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See we got there on the end, isn't it as well?

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Speaker 12: We didn't and we did.

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Speaker 14: The good thing was we didn't have to shout at.

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Speaker 2: Each other's shot. Just been a huge argument in the studio,

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Speaker 2: just a massive meltdown, like an unbelievable.

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Speaker 14: We just point out you didn't shout.

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Speaker 2: I didn't shout. No, you and I were just observer

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Speaker 2: as to what really was. It was the WWE of

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Speaker 2: radio producer slash Management Clusters. Thirty seven minutes and seventeen

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Speaker 2: seconds ten tracks and Mark Mitchells will us along with

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson. Morning to both of you.

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Speaker 25: Good morning.

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Speaker 22: You should you should trust your producers because they got

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Speaker 22: JK on last week and I thought he was bloody outstanding.

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Speaker 2: He was outstanding. He was very very good, indeed, and

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Speaker 2: I do trust my producers. But the management, you know,

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01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: I've got to adhere to the management because they're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, higher up, what do you doing? You ever

1385
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: had a screaming match in your office? Ginny?

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Speaker 16: No, Haven's actually no, when you were.

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Speaker 2: A minister and under pressure and somebody came and press

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: secretary came in with something stupid, do you ever yell

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Speaker 2: at them or you have a sort of a bit of

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Speaker 2: back and forward.

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Speaker 27: No, No, it doesn't really help you get anywhere. I mean,

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Speaker 27: I'd worked as an advisor in those situations before, and

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Speaker 27: I've seen ministers do some of those things. When I

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Speaker 27: was Beckham the day, who.

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Speaker 14: Are the ministers?

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: Who are the troublesome ministers in trouble? Give me it

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01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 2: was you will get the one.

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Speaker 27: You get a few do buns sometimes who just kind

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Speaker 27: of win the presso's bag. You can and when you

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 27: see that Heppen, you see that it never hacks the

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01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 27: situation and resolves the problem.

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Speaker 2: Did you use the term doombum?

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Speaker 27: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I didn't do.

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: What is that you do?

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 27: Your bun?

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Speaker 24: You know you have a ald t.

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01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 27: T like at to say it, But actually, actually it's

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Speaker 27: funny you mentioned the hat because there's something happening in

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Speaker 27: the Hot tonight that I'll bet you want to know about.

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 27: And it's a public meeting on pay equity down at

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Speaker 27: the hat park Road's house at sexty p tonight.

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Speaker 2: What's the hut park Road?

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01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: Hot park Roads is also jump a rama down there,

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 27: but you probably wouldn't be interested.

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Speaker 2: I would rather go to jump a rama than a

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Speaker 2: meeting about.

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Speaker 27: So J and Carmel will be down there.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, anyone who was.

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Speaker 3: Last time?

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Speaker 27: Twenty five park Roads?

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: Last time?

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Speaker 22: Last time Labor held a meeting and christ Buship's elector,

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Speaker 22: I think half doesn't people to up.

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Speaker 2: To goodness and Carmel Sepaloni at a meeting in the.

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Speaker 24: Hut on equity women's.

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Speaker 2: Ony gees talk about exciting to come. Do you Mark?

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Speaker 2: I mean you wouldn't lose because you're an affable sort

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: of likable kind of guy. But but but I mean,

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: does it. But there must have been You must have

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Speaker 2: seen the screaming and the bee hive, mustn't you. There

1433
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 2: must be, you know, someone losing the rag.

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Speaker 3: Only in the house. You see it happened in the house.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it happen in officers of Look, you.

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Speaker 22: Know, I'm very proud of my team, and we operate

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 22: as a team and if the pressures on, we all

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Speaker 22: absorb it together. And you know, I feel very fortunate,

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01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 22: very lucky to have the team that I've got.

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Speaker 2: Good on you. That was about as diplomatic as you

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Speaker 2: possibly get. You should actually replace Mallard on that broad subject, Jenny.

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Speaker 3: Well, it do come from an Irish background.

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01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: There you go, on that broad subject.

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 27: I've got something we've got in common.

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01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Now do you think that I mean,

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01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: was Peter right yesterday? Jenny? I mean, should diplomats be

1447
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: actual diplomats as opposed to political appointment?

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 27: Well, it's a bit tricky when they're kind of in

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01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 27: those positions. And I'm still not quite clear as to

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 27: why his time was terminated, because it's like, but why

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 27: now he's been the Minister for ages and he maybe.

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01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: He's looking for the replacement. It's a good point. I

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: raised it earlier, didn't do it day one?

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01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 27: Yeah, what does he do this now? And he seems

1455
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 27: to be no either real driver or reason as to

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Speaker 27: way to that.

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Speaker 2: I know what it is. Do you know what it is?

1458
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: Because he wants to take the heat off and from

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Speaker 2: the very broken contract payment.

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Speaker 27: It's a good point. Or the fact that there was

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Speaker 27: these COVID issues and there's some voter base in their

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01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 27: foot could be there.

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Speaker 2: He could have gone too.

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 3: Did he try? Did he try tristpausing? What's from parliament grounds?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: The stage question coming out?

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Speaker 22: So, I mean it's a crime if you're playing Verry

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Speaker 22: Menilow loud.

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Speaker 2: That is true. It's very Menilo is almost as bad

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Speaker 2: as a pay equity meeting in the hut with Carmel Cepalani.

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Speaker 27: We could place in Berry Mentialo at the pay equity

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Speaker 27: meeting and you can.

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Speaker 2: Makes So what do you think do you have a

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Speaker 2: view mark diplomatic it should diplomat to be diplomats or

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Speaker 2: is there room for political appointment?

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 3: I think there's my viewers. It depends on the individual.

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01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 22: But you know, we do have our infats world class

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01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 22: and that's what they do. Strive and a posting a

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 22: lot that is the ultimate sort of career pathway for them,

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Speaker 22: and I think Winston recognizes that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Pre break more Moment Jennny Anderson, Mark Mitchell, thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Make Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past eight Junny Anderson, Mark Mitchell, Mark hand on Heart.

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Speaker 2: Would you, if you were called to a COVID inquiry,

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Speaker 2: having been the government of the day during a COVID period,

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Speaker 2: front up publicly?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I would.

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Speaker 22: And I feel very strongly about this because we are

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Speaker 22: public servants. We're there to serve the public we're voted

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Speaker 22: didn't buy them, and a big part of that is

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01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 22: fronting up. And sometimes, look, you know, I know myself,

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Speaker 22: I don't like being I don't feel I'm very good

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 22: at media, but I front up to every media request that.

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Speaker 3: I get because actually that is our job.

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Speaker 22: And and so I feel very strongly that yes, they

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Speaker 22: should be fronting up to a public inquiry.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Problem, Jinny, is that the poll came out posts the

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: decision by those four in the party that most New

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01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: Zealanders don't see it as a right decision. Would you?

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01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't I don't know what

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: thought process went into this because it looks bad. It's

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Speaker 2: it's irrefutably looks bad.

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Speaker 27: So all other Royal Commissions of inquiry.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that line get evident, but this is different.

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Speaker 2: It was different. COVID was a life changing, country changing,

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Speaker 2: his changing.

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Speaker 3: All the prime ministers in the UK front.

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01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: You're just running the same old line. I've heard the line.

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01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 27: Truth, that's what happened. There's been no other inquiry so people,

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01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 27: and each of those people did give, you know, three

1514
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 27: to four hours of evidence which is then put into

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 27: the into the report. So they have given.

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01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: But you don't get it. You don't get it. That's

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01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 3: not public We have front.

1518
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 27: Remember is you know, I do hear the concern. But

1519
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 27: the most important thing to remember is all those in

1520
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 27: National voted for the COVID payment, all National voter and

1521
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 27: ask for more moning.

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,520
Speaker 3: What relevance is that.

1523
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 27: Because we're here at the moment, this revisionist history about

1524
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 27: what happened.

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01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: Public inquiries for Jenny, Yeah, I mean, it's just I

1526
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: find it hard to believe. Does it sit comfortably with

1527
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: you personally?

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 27: I think that that what I've seen is the first

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01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 27: trial was great. The first run throw in terms of

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01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 27: the review, and the second one seems to be overly

1531
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 27: loaded and it seems to be you know, why was

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01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 27: Winston Peters in New Zealand first excluded from the round

1533
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 27: two of them?

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: That's actually not a bad point. I'll come back to

1535
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: that in the moment. Mark if youve got an answer,

1536
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: but come back to that. I mean, in all honesty,

1537
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 2: if you believe, if you believe what you believe, and

1538
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: you believe you did the right thing, to be seen

1539
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: to be doing the right thing is the least you

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: can expect of a publicly elected official, wasn't it.

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Speaker 27: I think what they did is they fronted and gave

1542
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 27: hours of evidence that gave them.

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01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: They gave evidence, but they didn't from behind closed doors.

1544
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 27: You want to.

1545
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: Why you're going to go out.

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01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 22: Next year and you're going to ask the public our

1547
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 22: communities to vote and support you. Their expectation is that

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 22: you advance your interests and that you front up, and

1549
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 22: that you front up publicly. It's the worst to me,

1550
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 22: it's the worst betrayal because you know, the whole country

1551
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 22: went through a lot of suffering through COVID, whether that

1552
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 22: was good, bad, and different decisions that were made front

1553
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 22: up and fight your corner and explain to the country why.

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01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: You did what you did.

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 22: Can I'm not doing that. It looks it looks like

1556
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 22: you're hiding.

1557
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 27: It's a bit rich for National to attack the COVID

1558
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 27: response when they backed it at the time.

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01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'm attacking it. I'm attacking it as a New

1560
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: Zealand who wants to see somebody publicly held to account.

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 2: And that's Hipkins, and it's Robinson and it's most certainly

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Speaker 2: a Doern.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me give you an example, Jinny, of what

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01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: happened during.

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01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 27: The Give me an example.

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 22: As an Auckland MP, I had Chris Hipkins contact me

1567
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 22: directly and say will you support me on a matter

1568
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 22: because it's important.

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 3: This was during the lockdowns. And I said, yes, I.

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Speaker 22: Will support you as on that because it's important at

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01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 22: the moment that we do try and be bipartisan and

1572
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 22: try and work together on this. We're facing a fairly

1573
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 22: serious situation. Three weeks later, when I had a mother,

1574
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 22: when I had a daughter trapped in MiQ, that we

1575
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 22: could have got out that the hospital said they'd support

1576
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 22: her visit to see her dying mother ghosted nothing, no response.

1577
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 22: That is completely totally unacceptable, and that is the sort

1578
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 22: of stuff that you should be fronting up and explaining

1579
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 22: to kiwis I hear that.

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01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 27: Concern, mar I get it. And the important thing to

1581
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 27: remember is that we need to learn how to do

1582
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 27: things better in the future. And I don't think that

1583
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 27: that's that what the inquiry was was trying to do

1584
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 27: things better in the future. It was about a political

1585
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 27: point scoring effort. And that's why round two and excluded

1586
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 27: New Zealand first.

1587
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 22: And that don't you guys, don't you guys forget for

1588
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 22: one second that the human costs and the harm that

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01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 22: was that was caused when a daughter absolutely to her

1590
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 22: dying mothers.

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 27: At the same time, I'm grateful that I have my

1592
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 27: parents and we have grandparents here and that we work

1593
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 27: to save lives and save jobs. That's the case of

1594
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 27: what we did, and that's why your party going for

1595
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 27: That's why your.

1596
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: Party that's the case step up publicly in a.

1597
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: Quick question mark the exclusion of Winston Peter is not

1598
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: a bad point. How come he's excluded excluded from from

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: the from this particular round of the commission. He's not

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: been called I don't know, good question.

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: That's that's Christian for the commission.

1602
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: We need we need to get an answer on that down' we.

1603
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1604
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: I mean the best one to answer that is Winston.

1605
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 22: I'm not sure the government I've got they've got the

1606
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 22: terms of reference.

1607
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't speak for Winston.

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: Winston's very well, we'll get an answer from Winston. Quick question,

1609
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: Jinny on Denton's who you guys are employing to help

1610
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: Hepkins and co?

1611
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 16: Do this?

1612
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: Do they write the answers?

1613
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 27: I don't have an answer that I do not know.

1614
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: Could you find out? Because would to worry if lawyers

1615
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: wrote the answers? And would that.

1616
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 27: Seriously, I seriously doubt that lawyers would be writing the answers.

1617
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 27: They might provide advice, but I don't think they would

1618
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 27: be providing the answers on behalf of people who were

1619
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 27: giving that evidence.

1620
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: And then you can ask the question, why do you

1621
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: need lawyers?

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 27: That's a good question. I think it's because you've got

1623
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 27: a real Christian inquiry, and that's the.

1624
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 3: Usual there's a big question and.

1625
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 27: A Royal Commission of Inquiry. I think that's the usual

1626
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 27: case of what occurves that each group representing his legal representing.

1627
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: We've got a motivate.

1628
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: Like I just say on the Winston thing is that

1629
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 3: he wasn't in government at the time.

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: It's a pretty sort of will he saw was because

1631
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: he was distinctly remember, I distinctly remember in the coalition

1632
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: of seventeen through twenty he was the one who said,

1633
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: if your overseas, get home now. So he was. He

1634
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: was part of the early days of COVID. But it's

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: well worth looking into. Mark appreciate it. Ginny appreciated as well.

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Speaker 2: And if you're at that meeting, Ginny, have the best time.

1637
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Speaker 2: And if it gets really boring, head straight to jump

1638
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Speaker 2: a ramor and just relieve the stress. It's eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: no mention of Sir Brian Roach's eight hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: for eight months and he criticized teachers and the government

1662
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Speaker 2: gets Look, Brian, I'm over this. You sound like that

1663
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Speaker 2: Benedict Bloke on TV one News last night. It's a pathetic.

1664
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: The simple truth of life is some jobs are worth

1665
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Speaker 2: more than others. Right, we all know that. I thought

1666
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: we accepted that that guy Brian Roche is leading a

1667
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Speaker 2: major organization a teacher isn't leading anything. A teacher as

1668
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Speaker 2: a teacher, a cleaner is a cleaner, a driver as

1669
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Speaker 2: a driver, A lawyers a lawyer, everything's worth different value.

1670
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Speaker 2: By saying look at that person over there, they earn

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Speaker 2: more than I do. It's not fair. And he's a

1672
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Speaker 2: big mean I mean, I thought we were way more

1673
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Speaker 2: sophisticated than that in twenty twenty five. But Benedict and

1674
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,879
Speaker 2: you would prove me wrong. News in a couple of moments,

1675
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: and then we will go to the round Table in

1676
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Speaker 2: Australia and talk with Stephen Price.

1677
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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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1680
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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting thing. You remember the Canadian election, Karne

1681
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Speaker 2: wins it came from nowhere, replaced Trudeau and the guy

1682
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: poll Appier Polliev. It was so embarrassing or humiliating for

1683
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: the Conservatives even he lost his seat. While they've had

1684
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: a by election. He's now back. So the by election

1685
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: was in Alberta. Now does he come from Alberta, No,

1686
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't, so he went to he basically they parachuted

1687
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: him into the seat into the by election it's a

1688
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: heavily conservative area and they still haven't filled. It's called

1689
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: Battle River Crowfoot. How Canadians that the riding? It's not

1690
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 2: a seat, it's the riding of Battle River Crowfoot. Anyway,

1691
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: he's got eighty point four percent of the boat, so

1692
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: he's home free. He was in Ottawa and he had

1693
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: held that for two decades, but such was the swing

1694
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: towards Carney, he lost his seat. So he faced and

1695
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: there was protest in this particular by election over the weekend.

1696
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: He faced two hundred and fourteen candidates, two hundred and fourteen.

1697
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: He was the two hundred and fifteenth and he won it.

1698
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 2: So he will assume he will go back to the Parliament,

1699
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: and he will assume at that particular point his old job.

1700
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: He's back. He is the leader of the opposition. Some

1701
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: of the locals went, look, you're just jumping in here

1702
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: for nothing more than a means to an end, and

1703
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: of course he was. But it worked. So it'd be

1704
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens next.

1705
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Speaker 19: Twenty two to nine International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance,

1706
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Speaker 19: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

1707
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: And threatening cleven price. Greeting to you good at where's

1708
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: this go Because Netnya, Who's gone right at Elbanzi this

1709
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: morning in a fairly major way. It's not, I suppose unpredictable.

1710
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: But what does Albanzi do with it?

1711
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 12: Well, he's saw on Nucleonna Who and the Prime Minister

1712
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 12: is now facing claims from just about every Jewish organization

1713
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 12: in the country and most media comentators that the relationship

1714
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 12: between Australia and Israel, which historically has been very strong

1715
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 12: all the way back to Senior Labor Prime Minister's love

1716
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 12: Bob Hawk, it's at its lowest level since the establishment

1717
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 12: of the Israeli state. I mean, it's horrendous. So there's

1718
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 12: two parts to Netanya who's gone on Twitter and had

1719
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 12: a crack over the recognition of Palestine. But my colleague

1720
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 12: at Sky, Charie Markson's got hold of a letter that

1721
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 12: Netnya who has sent the PM, and she revealed the

1722
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 12: contents of that last night, where the Israeli leader labeled

1723
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 12: anti Semitism in Australia are cancer. The letters dated August seventeen.

1724
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 12: It spreads when leaders remain silent. Madas is a direct Quotetnatu.

1725
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Speaker 12: I call upon you to replace weakness with action, appeasement

1726
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 12: with resolve, and to do so by a clear date

1727
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 12: the Jewish New Year September twenty three to twenty twenty five.

1728
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 12: History will not forgive hesitation, it will honor action. He's

1729
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 12: described Albanezi as a weak politician, accused him of abandoning

1730
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 12: Australia's Jews, which is where Albertiz he has his biggest problem,

1731
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,839
Speaker 12: and signaling a serious relationship breakdown between the two leaders.

1732
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 12: And that, of course comes on top of an Israeli

1733
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 12: politician has been banned from coming here. Is visa was

1734
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 12: canceled at the last minute, and we've got representatives for

1735
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 12: some reason in Ramala who are representatives to the Palestinis

1736
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 12: Palestinian authority. They've been told to get out of the country.

1737
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 12: So it doesn't get any worse than that, No.

1738
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't. And then there was a poll I think

1739
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 2: in between the times that we've been talking, there's a

1740
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 2: poll the other day that that most people see the

1741
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: Palestinian recognition for what it is, which is it's just

1742
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: it's ideological nonsense. It doesn't change or achieve anything.

1743
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 10: No, it doesn't.

1744
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 12: I mean you've got to remember that there is a

1745
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 12: probably outside of maybe the United States. We've probably got

1746
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 12: the largest number of Jewish residents anywhere. There's a lot

1747
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 12: of people came here at the end of World War

1748
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 12: II or just before and settled in Sydney and Melbourne.

1749
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 12: Massive Jewish population, I mean in regard to actual numbers,

1750
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 12: not huge, influence, very large, and they feel completely abandoned.

1751
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 12: The Memori had synagogues burnt to the ground, fire bombed, graffiti,

1752
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 12: all of the above. And so the Prime ministers can't

1753
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 12: just ignore this. He's got to try and repair this relationship,

1754
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,839
Speaker 12: and his state premiers have got to help him. Otherwise

1755
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 12: he's going to have this thing hanging over his head

1756
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 12: right the way until he goes to the policy.

1757
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: I wonder has he must read the mood of the

1758
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: room and the sense that we've talked about this before.

1759
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: He and Wong and year old labour rights from the

1760
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 2: old days. This is right up there, This is in

1761
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: their wheelhouse. They love this stuff, and yet they're not,

1762
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: you know, the wider Australia. I just don't think I

1763
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: think the way they think.

1764
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 12: On this issue. They're both acting as if they're still

1765
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 12: university radicals. I mean that much and odd for are

1766
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 12: both in his sixties but that's what's happening. I mean,

1767
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 12: this is very deep in the dna of the Prime minister.

1768
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 12: He was from the is from the hard left. He

1769
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 12: was head of the Socialist Alliance at the University in Sydney,

1770
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 12: was a member of the Communist Party at one point,

1771
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 12: and so it's just sprung out of him and I

1772
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 12: don't think he realized what their reaction, what the feedback

1773
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 12: was going to be, and he's really copped.

1774
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 17: It from that.

1775
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: This roundtable that started. I think yesterday I was reading.

1776
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how few people are there, so I

1777
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: forty fifty. I thought it was like a room of

1778
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: hundreds or something. Is it just a handful of people

1779
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: and they've all sort of agreed before they enter the

1780
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: room what's going to happen. And that's that pretty much.

1781
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 12: It's in the cabinet room, so you can only have

1782
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 12: them and he would be at a normal cabinet meeting.

1783
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 12: A lot of people are sent in submissions. One of

1784
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,879
Speaker 12: the things that my colleague Ross Green would told me yesterday,

1785
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 12: which I was staggered by, is that the mining industry

1786
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 12: is not physically represented in that room by anybody they've

1787
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 12: sent in submissions, but they're not at the table. Now

1788
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 12: mining and the royalties for mining are what pace for

1789
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 12: schools and hospitals.

1790
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's a sting industry.

1791
01:20:58,920 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 4: It is.

1792
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 12: And the ACTU true to color. They whacked on the table.

1793
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 12: One of the first things they whacked on the table

1794
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 12: yesterday was that they want a new training levee. Now

1795
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 12: you imagine the reaction around the table when that came

1796
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 12: up in the morning session. This is money that would

1797
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 12: be used by the unions themselves to in quotation marks

1798
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 12: train people. But we've seen in the past what happens

1799
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 12: to that though it never ends up in actual training.

1800
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 12: So they want a one point five percent levee toward

1801
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 12: worker training for every company in Australia with turnover no

1802
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 12: profit turnover of five hundred thousand dollars. I mean that's

1803
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 12: just about every big, small and medium business in the country.

1804
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: See, this is what fascinates me A big picture is

1805
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: does he have the political license Albanes? Does he have

1806
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 2: the political license to just go mental because he's won

1807
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: so spectacularly why not? Or is he one of those

1808
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 2: guys who goes I want to leave a legacy and

1809
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: I'll read the room a little bit better than this

1810
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: and some of this extreme madness gets curtailed.

1811
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 12: Probably the latter, because he could determined out of three terms.

1812
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 12: He believes with that majority, and quite rightly he believes

1813
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 12: is that with a ninety four seat house at Lower House,

1814
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 12: he could go around next time and win and probably

1815
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 12: even win a term after that. So he believes he

1816
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 12: can leave a footprint on the country. The problem for

1817
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,480
Speaker 12: all of us is it's the wrong footprint.

1818
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 2: Just quickly. I'm reading this morning in the Sydney Morning

1819
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: Herald this and I don't think most people listening to

1820
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 2: us understand what you do here. National Disability Insurance Scheme

1821
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: the NDI is so on the past seven and ten

1822
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: people in the last year they've joined of god autism apparently.

1823
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 2: So this is a forty six billion dollar scheme. Is

1824
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: this thing hopelessly out of control?

1825
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, it needs to be shut down and we need

1826
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 12: to go back to basics. We all agree that there's

1827
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 12: a place for scheme like this, but it's completely out

1828
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 12: of control. I think the figure you're talking about mainly

1829
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 12: relates to teenage yes, and they've all ended up being

1830
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 12: diagnosed with autism, and they've all ended up on the NDIES.

1831
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 12: I mean This thing is like a snowball rolling down

1832
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 12: a mountain. It's completely out of control. It's threatening to

1833
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 12: absolutely blow up the budget, blow up the economy, and

1834
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 12: someone's got to do something about it.

1835
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: So, as a teenager, if I get diagnosed with autism,

1836
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: I get money, and I get money as long as

1837
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 2: I have autism. Is that how it works?

1838
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 17: Correct?

1839
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 12: Your family? Does they put you on a plan and

1840
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 12: that plan would help with your treatment of autism? Now

1841
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 12: does anyone in the country believe those numbers are real?

1842
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 13: Not?

1843
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: Really?

1844
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: No?

1845
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 12: Is it the family's fault? Are they actively seeking out

1846
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 12: an autism diagnosis? Probably not. The medical fraternity somehow involved

1847
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,839
Speaker 12: here in giving these as plans out like confetti.

1848
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 10: Yes, they are unreal, all.

1849
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: Right, might see you next week. Appreciate it. Steep price

1850
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: out of Australia seven and ten and the National Disability

1851
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: Scheme in the past, you have autism. It's forty six billion,

1852
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: six thousand of the seventy eight thousand who joined, fifty

1853
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: six of the seventy eight who joined in the last

1854
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: year magically had autism eight forty five.

1855
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1856
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: By News talks at b.

1857
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Twelve away from nine. We mentioned the other day on

1858
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 2: the program an upcoming documentary on John Clark. It's called

1859
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: not just Fred Dagg but also John Clark, and it's

1860
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: out sometime soon. I can't remember anyway, as it popped

1861
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: up on my YouTube fig yesterday what I thought was it,

1862
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 2: but it wasn't. It was another docker that had post

1863
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: his death. It was about seven or eight years old now,

1864
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: but it's very good. Thanks for your time. So if

1865
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 2: you've got time and you're like John Clark and who doesn't.

1866
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 2: It's a half hour documentary. It's made by the ABC.

1867
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: It's got Brian Door and it's got Paul keating on

1868
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: for you go why. There's a good story involved in that.

1869
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: It's got Sam Neil in there as well. It's a

1870
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: very nice half hour of whats got his daughters? Of

1871
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: what John Clark was, what he did, how he did it,

1872
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: why he did it, and how he's basically driven out

1873
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: of New Zealand the fame got to him. He was

1874
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: so famous, so successfully had to get the hell out

1875
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: and he went to Australia. Very clever guy and a

1876
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: very nice documentary. If he can be bothered. Mahi Drysdale

1877
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: that welcome in mahe as mayor of twoing Or. I

1878
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: know they backflipped yesterday. He was the casting vote. This

1879
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: goes back to my ongoing interest in this local water

1880
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: dounewell thing and whether you go it alone or whether

1881
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: you join a local council. They were going it alone,

1882
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: and so they had another chat about that and they

1883
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: tied on the vote. He flipped. He flipped it. So

1884
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: they're going to join. They were going it alone. They're

1885
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: now joining the Western Bay a Plenty district, possibly the

1886
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: Thames Corrimandel District. I think that's the i'mknow expert in

1887
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: water and towering and the plenty, but I think I

1888
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: think a grouping. It just seems to me that infrastructurally speaking,

1889
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: were the exception of the major centers, small regional provincial

1890
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: New Zealand. You were too small to provide your infrastructure

1891
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: by yourself to your people. As I can work out,

1892
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: you're asking for trouble you can't afford. And so you've

1893
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: got till September three to put the plan forward. Already,

1894
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: as I've told you, six councils have been written to going.

1895
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: We don't think this looks good enough and you might

1896
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: not be able to go at alone. So it's an

1897
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: interesting interface between your own bullishness in your region versus

1898
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: the cold hard fiscal reality of maybe needing some mates

1899
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 2: along the way. So Marhey flipped it to join the group.

1900
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: So he might turn out to be the hero in

1901
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: all of this, And the only time will tell nine

1902
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: Away from nine The.

1903
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alvita Retirement Communities News Togsdad bes.

1904
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Mike, I don't know if you've seen the movie Death

1905
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: in Brunswick, but it's brilliant Australian black comedy, as fine

1906
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: as yes to have Paul and funnily enough. In the

1907
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: little documentary or Yesterday, it's featured with Sam Neil quite emotional. Actually,

1908
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 2: he had watched a clip the night before before he

1909
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 2: did the docer and he looked back at Death and Brunswick.

1910
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: He was thrilled to be stirring alongside John Clark and

1911
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: he said, we did something really good in that movie.

1912
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: He was quite emotional about it. Spark reporting season for

1913
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: the b companies on the market at the moment. So

1914
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Spark revenue of three point seven to five million is

1915
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: that bad? It's not great decline two point five percent,

1916
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: Ebit Dara bit over a million declined seven point seven

1917
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: final dividend twelve point five cents. They've been in the

1918
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: news most recently, of course, they sold that seventy five

1919
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 2: percent stake in their data center business. The chair is

1920
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: quoted as saying one of the most challenging periods in

1921
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Spark's history. So that gives you a flavor that life

1922
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: at the old Spark seems a while ago. They were

1923
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: into streaming sport, doesn't it. Eh, those were the days

1924
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 2: five minutes away from nine.

1925
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist warehouse great savings every day.

1926
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: Rhode Island Assistant Attorney General, May I introduce to you

1927
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: Devon Hogan Flanagan. Devon's gone off this morning at a

1928
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: restaurant with some friends. Something happened. We don't know what happened,

1929
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: but anyway, cops turn up and they try and trespass

1930
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Devon in a friend and when the handcuffs came out,

1931
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Devon made the fatal mistake of the old I wanted

1932
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: to play the game of do you know who I am?

1933
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 21: The protocol and I ask you to turn off the bodygain.

1934
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 13: You have to turn it off, and that's your protocol.

1935
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 27: She's a snawyer, so she knows, well, that's.

1936
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Speaker 10: Blow your stuff. So that's not true, so.

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Speaker 13: We gotta go.

1938
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Speaker 16: No it is, that's that's all.

1939
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Speaker 6: I'm an AG.

1940
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm an AG.

1941
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Speaker 16: Good for you. I don't give a Let's go, You're

1942
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 16: not let's go.

1943
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Speaker 18: I'm not here arrested.

1944
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Speaker 13: You're putting me in cost I'm not here.

1945
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Speaker 8: No, you're gonna regret this.

1946
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Speaker 2: Now, a couple of really obvious questions. First of all,

1947
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 2: does her voice annoy you? And did that probably not

1948
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: help in the overall situation if you were the cop,

1949
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 2: would you not, as a cop just simply go Your

1950
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: voice belongs in jail. Second, when she says she's an

1951
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Speaker 2: a G, she's not. She's an assistant AG. So she's automatically,

1952
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: in her chipmunk like voice, promoted herself and she's actually

1953
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: an AAG, which would be AG like that, and so

1954
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 2: that deserves sing culps as well. So anyway, where was

1955
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Speaker 2: she she in jail? I don't know what happened to

1956
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Speaker 2: just for a fun It's not fun, it's it's weird.

1957
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Speaker 2: I've got sucked in this morning. If you go to

1958
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Speaker 2: the tabloid media. I can't remember where I was. There's

1959
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Speaker 2: a shot of some influences at a restaurant table eating food,

1960
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Speaker 2: videoing themselves for social media. When a car comes through

1961
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Speaker 2: the window, it is, oh my god.

1962
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Speaker 18: So there is that something that you can make happen

1963
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Speaker 18: now on the socials, like you can either like he

1964
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Speaker 18: comes down or car through the window.

1965
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, I mean, cath That'll get boring after the

1966
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Speaker 2: fourth or fifth one, but for now, whoo, anyway, we're

1967
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Speaker 2: out of here, back tomorrow morning from six with our

1968
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Speaker 2: old mate Nick Bryan by the way, after a look

1969
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Speaker 2: forward to his company, look forward to yours as well.

1970
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Speaker 2: Happy Duest Love every day.

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