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Speaker 1: The Justice Select Committee has recommended several changes to soften

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Speaker 1: the Firearms Prohibition Order's Legislation Amendment Bill. It says the

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Speaker 1: order will give police too much power for warrantless searches.

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Speaker 1: As it stands, someone with an FPO a Firearms Prohibition

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Speaker 1: Order cannot hold a firearms license, use firearms, or associate

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Speaker 1: with anybody who has a firearm. And the new bill

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Speaker 1: would give new warrantless search powers to anyone suspected of

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Speaker 1: being under a firearms Prohibition order. Ginny Anderson as Labour's

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Speaker 1: Justice spokesperson, and she's with me now, Jenny, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Could you give us an example of where you think

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Speaker 1: this power could go and what's wrong with it?

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Speaker 2: Right, So, say, just for the sake of it, let's say,

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Speaker 2: Mike Costkins, your friend had FPO put on by the courts.

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Speaker 2: You don't know about it, but are you invited around

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Speaker 2: to your house and he's run at your house either

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Speaker 2: for dinner or doing something else, so that you don't

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Speaker 2: even know that he has an f PO on him

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Speaker 2: and police would be able to search your whole house.

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Speaker 2: And the way that the bill was originally written that

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Speaker 2: police just had to suspect that he might have an

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Speaker 2: FPO on him in order to search your entire house,

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Speaker 2: or if he was in your car, your whole car.

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Speaker 2: So it just is quite wide in terms of not

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Speaker 2: just only the people who it's intending to capture, but

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Speaker 2: also who they're associating. Was immediately whether or not that

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Speaker 2: associate necessarily it was in a gain or not.

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Speaker 1: Right, But how why would the cops be coming to

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Speaker 1: my house or to my car in the first.

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Speaker 2: Place, Because if the person was an FPO on them

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Speaker 2: is in your house, then that can be searched too.

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Speaker 1: But how do they know he's in my MIC's in

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Speaker 1: my house? Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, it's surely they're probably blotting outside.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you get into scenarios, that's hard. But

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Speaker 2: if they've been more uttering someone, all they have to

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Speaker 2: do is is we've changed it now that you used

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Speaker 2: to just bespect that he had an FPO on them,

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Speaker 2: and they're checking on the conditions. So when you have

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Speaker 2: one of these on you, it enables police to continually

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Speaker 2: check that the conditions of the SEO are being complied

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Speaker 2: with right right, and they can do that at any time,

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Speaker 2: like a bail check, they can come around and check that.

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Speaker 1: Right, And if I have so Mike's got an FPO,

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Speaker 1: if I have a firearm illegally a firearm in my house,

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Speaker 1: he can be arrested for just being in the same house.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's absolutely correct. And you might not know, you

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Speaker 2: might have stored a firearm for someone else. And if

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Speaker 2: he's anywhere there, that's exactly right. He would be arrested

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Speaker 2: for a period of time if he was in and

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Speaker 2: around firearms. That does depend on the conditions of the SEO.

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Speaker 2: These are put on by the courts, and so the

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Speaker 2: judge at the time can put on special conditions that

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Speaker 2: might be different from time to time. So we thought

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Speaker 2: that that was a much and it's been changed to

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Speaker 2: the police has to believe that there is an SPO

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Speaker 2: on this person in order to conduct those searchers. But

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Speaker 2: we still think that we're the balance about right. The

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Speaker 2: previous spos about who she has been done, about a

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Speaker 2: third of those are gang members. We also had that

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Speaker 2: Criminal Activity Intervention Bill which for a period of fourteen

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Speaker 2: days if there was tensions between gangs, then police had

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Speaker 2: the ability to go and search in a whole range

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Speaker 2: of different areas while those into gang tensions. Both those

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Speaker 2: piece of legislation we felt was working really well, and

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Speaker 2: this is sort of another thing. Design's a lot tough,

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Speaker 2: but it's not quite clear what is the problem it

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Speaker 2: is actually fixing.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's Jenny Anderson, Labour's Justice spokesperson. The Justice

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Speaker 1: Select Committee has recommended to send several changes to that

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Speaker 1: bill to soften it up. For more from News Talks'

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