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Speaker 1: A new plan to help our GP crisis. University of

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Speaker 1: a Tiger wants to create one hundred new places for

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Speaker 1: med students by twenty twenty seven. Acting Medical school Dean

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Speaker 1: Tim Wilkinson's with us on this Tim Morning to you,

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Speaker 1: good morning. You need the money, chances of getting it?

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Speaker 1: In your assessment are what?

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Speaker 2: Well? We need the doctors is what we really need?

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Speaker 2: And what's the cost of not having doctors? But yes,

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Speaker 2: we don't train people for free, but we are willing

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Speaker 2: and able to train far more doctors if we were

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Speaker 2: allowed to. And the key point here is that the

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Speaker 2: government restricts how many doctors we can train. So we

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Speaker 2: could train more if they let us, but they put

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Speaker 2: a limit on what we can train, and we're crazy.

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Speaker 1: Sure, how much does seem crazy? But why can't we

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Speaker 1: bring them in as we do occasionally? What's the problem

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Speaker 1: with that as opposed to trying to do something seemingly

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Speaker 1: at university level, we can't seem to.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, why don't we bring in bucktors

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Speaker 2: from overseas? You mean? Or yeah, yes, we could do that,

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Speaker 2: and we do do that, and we do that at

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Speaker 2: a higher rate than most other countries. We know that

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Speaker 2: Actually people like to be seen by doctors who understand

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Speaker 2: New zealand understand our culture and understand our health system.

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Speaker 2: That's not to say that overseas trained doctors can't do that,

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Speaker 2: but locally trained doctors are much more attuned to local needs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, having said that, you get one hundred new places,

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Speaker 1: there is no guarantee those hundred new students want to

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Speaker 1: be GPS, though, is there?

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Speaker 2: That's right? But we're not just short of GPS. We're

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Speaker 2: short of more doctors. I mean every week we hear

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Speaker 2: about some discipline that's short, short somewhere. So yes, we

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Speaker 2: don't want everyone to be GPS, but we do want

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Speaker 2: more doctors in general, and we want a good proportion

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Speaker 2: of those people to be GPS.

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Speaker 1: Without right, and were you up too much? Would a

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Speaker 1: third medical school help?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think the worst thing that could happen right

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Speaker 2: there is nothing, So we need more doctors. So yes,

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Speaker 2: that is a solution. But you know, why not look

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Speaker 2: at the sol that's looking at you in the face,

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Speaker 2: which is just allowing the existing schools to do what

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Speaker 2: they do well and just do more of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tend to agree, Tim, I wish you the

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Speaker 1: best with that Tim Wilkinson, who's the University of Otago

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Speaker 1: Medical School Dean.

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