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Speaker 1: There is a big development in the Glory of l case,

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Speaker 1: which is that the Secretary of Education has canceled Glory

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Speaker 1: of Our Christian School's license, effectively closing it down from

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Speaker 1: twenty three January next year. Liz Gregory is the founder

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Speaker 1: of the Glory of Oale Leavers Trust.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Liz, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Is this good because it starts the process of making

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Speaker 1: it hard to live in Gloriavale? Or is this bad

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Speaker 1: because it's the kids who get punished first?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I think this is a positive step. The

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Speaker 2: ministry has made a courageous decision that the children actually

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Speaker 2: met it since the school at Glaorivale was a cornerstone

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Speaker 2: of their community. I guess a device for entreatment and

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Speaker 2: isolation which was consessed by leaders in the employment court hearing.

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Speaker 2: So this is only a positive step forward.

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Speaker 1: So what's most likely to happen here? Are these kids

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Speaker 1: going to be homeschooled by their parents or are they

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Speaker 1: going to get sent to public schools outside nearby?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think homeschooling will be their

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Speaker 2: next option, but last week every family who are homeschooling

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Speaker 2: failed in Glorivale. That fails the aero review and so

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Speaker 2: that's clearly a signal that homeschooling isn't working either. I

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Speaker 2: doubt sale jumpon to correspondent schooling to KUDA because they

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Speaker 2: don't need to meet the criteria for that. So I

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Speaker 2: assume that state school integration is going to be the option,

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Speaker 2: although we would strongly suggest and have that a hub

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Speaker 2: or transition programs are set up whereby various buildings are

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Speaker 2: added to other school sites potentially, and that it's the

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Speaker 2: carefully supported process and it will toss money, but these

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Speaker 2: kids are worth it, okay.

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Speaker 1: So this was always going to be the first step

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Speaker 1: that any government would take in order to start putting

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Speaker 1: the pressure on Gloria l What's the next.

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Speaker 2: One, obviously the announcement of a deregistration of their charity.

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Speaker 2: I've anticipating that will be before Christmas, and that was

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Speaker 2: signal to Gloryvale in July and they objected to it

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Speaker 2: and have had healed hearings, and so I expect that's

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Speaker 2: the next step. They do have various leavers on offers

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Speaker 2: for them, but all government successive ones over fifty years

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Speaker 2: have been very reluctant to pull those around safety and yeah,

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Speaker 2: we would say that didn't need to be done carefully

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Speaker 2: and with survivor input. The people who've left Gloraval are

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Speaker 2: actually the experts on how people in there think, and

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Speaker 2: they must be at the table sitting there giving ideas

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Speaker 2: and options for how this can be done in a

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Speaker 2: really carefully traumer informed way.

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Speaker 1: Liz, thanks very much for your time. Liz Gregory are

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Speaker 1: founder of the Glory of Our Leavers Trust. Heather, my

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Speaker 1: daughter is a teacher. The local schools didn't find out

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Speaker 1: about the closure of Glory of Our School until an

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Speaker 1: hour before the media. They won't know how many kids

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Speaker 1: they will get until January. It doesn't give them much

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Speaker 1: time to hire more teachers and get things organized. Brian,

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Speaker 1: I somehow feel I just have a sneaky suspicion not

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Speaker 1: that many kids are going to come out, so you know,

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Speaker 1: probably have nothing to worry about. For more from the

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