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Speaker 1: Big News Fold Opinions.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, The.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, Ye're back the dudes. We'll be talking about

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Speaker 4: that later with Peter Urich socbording to you. I'm Andrew Dickens.

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Speaker 4: It is Tuesday, the ninth of July. Today the Tana

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Speaker 4: turmoil rolls on Coe swarbrick not why we can't see

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Speaker 4: the report? How much was paid for the report? Was

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Speaker 4: Dar leading Tana a liar? And why the hell is

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Speaker 4: she still in the house?

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Speaker 5: Later?

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Speaker 4: The alpha guns, the rifles who can cut down to

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Speaker 4: pistols and don't inject shells? The gun of choice for gangs?

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Speaker 4: Should they be banned? And what's more important? What you

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Speaker 4: own or how hard you work the study into how

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Speaker 4: New Zealand is gauge financial success? You can text me

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Speaker 4: ninety two ninety two. You can email Dickens at the

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Speaker 4: b dot co dot after.

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Speaker 1: Six News Talk sib So it's.

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Speaker 4: Obvious that I was frustrated by Simeon Brown's interview yesterday

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Speaker 4: morning on the seven Roads of National Significance that the

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Speaker 4: government is planning. I asked him right from the get

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Speaker 4: go if they were going to be toll roads. Now,

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Speaker 4: why did I do that? It's not because I'm against

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Speaker 4: toll roads, but it's because I knew that's what National

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Speaker 4: favored and that needed to be on the record. I

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Speaker 4: also knew they were going to build the roads, so

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Speaker 4: the building of the roads was not news. The news

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Speaker 4: would be how and when and the how is is

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Speaker 4: it going to be a toll road? So that was

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Speaker 4: the first question. What I got back was procedural waffle

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Speaker 4: from Simeon. The Minister told me that the Minister has

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Speaker 4: to ask the NZTA to investigate the roads, and then

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Speaker 4: the NZTA reports back to the very same minister and

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Speaker 4: then that minister signs it all off or not on

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Speaker 4: the method. But since the Minister has been on the

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Speaker 4: side of tolls and in fact campaigned on tolls and

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Speaker 4: PPPs forever, that seems to be a given. So why

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Speaker 4: couldn't the Minister just come out and say it's going

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Speaker 4: to be a toll road. This whole process of bringing

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Speaker 4: in the NZTA seems to be a massive waste of time,

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Speaker 4: and the National Coalition has sworn to eliminate massive wastes

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Speaker 4: of time. But because Simeon khn't or wouldn't confirm that

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Speaker 4: they're going to be a toll road for some reason

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Speaker 4: known only to himself, even though we all know they will.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't then comment on the back of an envelope

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Speaker 4: calculation as to how much are the tolls going to

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Speaker 4: be for you and I. It's important for you and I.

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Speaker 4: This is still a government and post cost on living,

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Speaker 4: just like taxes, it's just user pays. We need to

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Speaker 4: know what it's going to cost us to write on

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Speaker 4: these lovely new roads that we want soon. And with

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Speaker 4: all this sort of committee meeting and bringing in the

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Speaker 4: NZTA and all this sort of carry on, it seems

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Speaker 4: and in fact I can tell you it won't be

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Speaker 4: a new road appearing within three years. There will be

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Speaker 4: no new road within three years because we still have

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Speaker 4: to go through procurement. Now, I would have thought politically

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Speaker 4: there would have been a priority to get the first

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Speaker 4: SOD turned before the next election, But throughout the interview

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Speaker 4: yesterday he kept on going about, going on about getting

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Speaker 4: things done, and yet he kept on talking about delays

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Speaker 4: and getting it done. So that's why I was frustrated.

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Speaker 4: This is a fast track development development If ever there

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Speaker 4: was one. It felt like an announcement of an announcement.

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Speaker 4: It's been six months of government. This is one of

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Speaker 4: their core policies. Tell us their toll roads. We should

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Speaker 4: already be in procurement. Chop chop wo.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 4: More warnings coming out of the Ukrainian War, the war

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Speaker 4: that keeps on being forgotten. After the latest bobbing in Kiev,

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Speaker 4: a former Ukraine president has warned NATO to treat Putin

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Speaker 4: with caution.

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Speaker 1: I saw with my old eyes.

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Speaker 6: Kivski.

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Speaker 1: This is my appeal.

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Speaker 7: Don't trust you, don't believe put.

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Speaker 8: Jim, and I know it from my own expeals.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, this mother who has a child in the children's

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Speaker 4: hospital bomb, I cannot believe it happened.

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Speaker 9: My daughter started screaming. I ran into the ward and

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Speaker 9: we were told to go down to the basement. I

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Speaker 9: grabbed my daughter in the corridor. There was a second explosion.

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Speaker 9: I didn't think this could happen, that there could be

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Speaker 9: a tacked on a hospital where there are six children.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Joe Biden wanted to come out. He came out,

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Speaker 4: he had a chat. He called involuntarily to MSNBC and

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Speaker 4: he wanted to reinforce I'm not quitting.

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Speaker 10: We're not going anywhere. I Am not going anywhere. I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't be running if I didn't absolutely believe that I

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Speaker 10: am the best candidate could beat down some In twenty

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Speaker 4: At pretty much the same time, the first Lady Jill

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Speaker 4: was doing exactly the same at a rally in Wilmington. Okay,

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Speaker 4: right to the UK Labor have an economic plan. There

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Speaker 4: is no time to waste.

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Speaker 11: We have promised a new approach to growth, one fit

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Speaker 11: for a changed world. That approach will rest on three

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Speaker 11: pillars stability, investment and reform.

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Speaker 4: And that is Rachel Reeves. She's the new chancellor. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: in France, after blaming the Left for doing a deal,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Bardella now is taking some responsibility for national rally

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Speaker 4: coming third.

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Speaker 7: I was the leader of the National Rally both at

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Speaker 7: the European elections but also in this campaign, and so

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Speaker 7: I assume my share of responsibility for both the victory

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Speaker 7: and the European elections and the defeat.

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Speaker 4: Finally, staying with France, if you want a piece or

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Speaker 4: two of history surrounding Napoleon, then it's going to cost

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Speaker 4: you so I've brought at the moment is a couple

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Speaker 4: of flint block gossard pistols once owned by the French

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Speaker 4: Emperor Napoleon. They sold at auction for three million dollars each.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing. A week before the auction, the

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Speaker 4: French government declared the pistols a national treasure, meaning you

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Speaker 4: won't be able to take them out of the country.

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Speaker 4: You've got to stay in France where there is no government.

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Speaker 4: Kind of six to thirteen news talks.

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Speaker 12: Here be my.

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Speaker 1: Costing breakfast news talks.

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Speaker 4: Here be guess what more evidence coming to hand? Their

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Speaker 4: house prices are sliding, and I'll work you through those

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Speaker 4: numbers of just a few moments time. Right now, at

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Speaker 4: six sixteen, I started to Welcome to the program, Andrew

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Speaker 4: kellaher from JMI Wealth. Andrew, Hello, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Very good morning, mister Dickens.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm hoping for a very good morning because I

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Speaker 4: hear you've got some very positive news to start us

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Speaker 4: off on, and remarkably it's about infrastructure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Look, look, Andrew, I'm constantly on the lookout for stories

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Speaker 13: that sort of run counter two. Will I suppose soften

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Speaker 13: the mood of the gloomy economic pond that we found

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Speaker 13: thisselves swimming rounded at the moment, and we shouldn't lose

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Speaker 13: sight of the fact that the wheels of commerce do

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Speaker 13: keep turning. You know, this still activity going on. So

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Speaker 13: yes I thought i'd highlight an update from Contact. So

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Speaker 13: this was an announcement to the ends of X yesterday

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Speaker 13: a significant milestone relating to Tauhara. Now Taharda is Contact's

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Speaker 13: new geothermal plant. It's near Taupol It's a low carbon

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Speaker 13: emission geothermal plant.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 13: Constructions commenced in twenty twenty one and now it's good

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Speaker 13: to go. They've successfully completed a reliability run. They are

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Speaker 13: now undertaking full commissioning activities. So that they did what

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Speaker 13: they call a thirty day reliability run that was completed

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Speaker 13: Once it's up and running, it will generate about one

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Speaker 13: hundred and fifty two megawats of power. Later in twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty five, that capacity will be increased to one hundred

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Speaker 13: and seventy four megawatts. It's a key part of a

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Speaker 13: strategy called Contact twenty six. That's Contact sort of plan

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Speaker 13: of action for five years ending.

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Speaker 6: Twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 13: That's building renewable generation, leading the transition to renewables, decarbonizing

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Speaker 6: That's all very positive.

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Speaker 13: Now, Unfortunately, the share price of Contact on the Insects

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Speaker 13: failure today. Now it seems to be driven by a

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Speaker 13: couple of comments in the announcement made about having to

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Speaker 13: not the only geal thermal plant they have. You do

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Speaker 13: get outages with geothermal plants looking ahead, they have to

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Speaker 13: then go and acquire generation to replace that.

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Speaker 6: Now, as we know, gas.

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Speaker 13: Deliveries in future are going to be lower, so the

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Speaker 13: cost of acquiring that generation will be higher. Now, on

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Speaker 13: a positive side, they're lifting their dividend and their earnings

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Speaker 13: But they made a comment about their not expecting further

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Speaker 13: increases in the dividend, and the market seems to be

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Speaker 6: So the share price was down four percent.

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Speaker 13: But there'll be a shiny new plant operating just outside

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Speaker 4: You've started so well, and then you tell us at

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Speaker 4: prices will go up, So there we go. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about political risk and financial markets at the moment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so, let let's talk political risk. It's a huge

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Speaker 13: Of that, but this brings political risk for financial markets,

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Speaker 13: and what tends to happens, We'll get an increase in

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Speaker 6: They don't go away. They tend to reassert themselves.

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Speaker 13: Now, this last week has certainly illustrated that there is

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Speaker 6: There's no immediate impacts for New.

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Speaker 13: Zealand, but that doesn't mean to say there aren't medium

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Speaker 13: term implications for things like trade. But financial markets crave

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Speaker 13: certainty and tend to react negatively to uncertainty co election.

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Speaker 6: Result, big swing left that was expected.

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Speaker 13: UK markets have been relatively resilient, the FUTSI one hundred.

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Speaker 13: It did fall one point three percent in June, and

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Speaker 13: the market reached a recent high in May. It's down

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Speaker 13: about three percent from that point. But I would say

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Speaker 13: resilient as a reasonable sort of description. Now, the French

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Speaker 13: election result over the weekend could be potentially more destabilizing.

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Speaker 13: Emmanuel Macron has been associated with a what we call

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Speaker 13: U suppose a business friendly agenda. He's talked about cutting

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Speaker 13: red tape, He's talked about labor market reform. Now, if

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Speaker 13: you think about it, a potential coalition with these new

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Speaker 13: far left groups could present barriers to a continuation of that.

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Speaker 6: But at the moment Andrew and I don't.

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Speaker 13: Profess to be a political expert, but we're not even

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Speaker 13: sure what the resulting government actually looks like. Then there

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Speaker 13: are repercussions for things like the EU. France is a

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Speaker 13: be mindful of things like it's deficit, and a sort

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Speaker 13: of a far left coalition including.

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Speaker 6: A file question may have implications for that.

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Speaker 13: The French share market, if we look at what is

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Speaker 13: called the hack current, the top forty, it's down about

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Speaker 13: but more of a reaction on that than there was

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Speaker 4: set B. It is six twenty one. Our house hunters

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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate,

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Speaker 15: The President's record speaks for itself, and the Allies and

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Speaker 4: New Zealanders are programmed to prick up their ears whenever

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Speaker 8: When you're at the beginning of the list, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: That is cool, all right. House prices. House prices have

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Speaker 4: Catherine Field, welcome back, good morning again, Andrew. We were

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Speaker 16: I would have very little confidence in them, to be honest, Andrew.

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Speaker 16: First of all, they're from such a wide range of

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Speaker 16: left wing opinions. You've got right on the far left.

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Speaker 16: You've got the Communist Party, which to be true, has

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Speaker 16: always had a place in French society and in French Parliament.

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Speaker 16: You've then got the France Unbald, which has got the

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Speaker 16: very radical far left leader Jean mc MELANCHEMP, who goes

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Speaker 16: around calling him everyone comrades and says the first thing

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Speaker 16: he's going to do when he gets into power is

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Speaker 16: rule by decree and put the pension age down to

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Speaker 16: sixty and raise a minimum wage. You've then got the

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Speaker 16: more sort of center left Socialist Party, which you are

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Speaker 16: far more steady hand on the tiller, and then you've

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Speaker 16: got even further more towards the sense, you've got the Greens.

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Speaker 16: So sometimes it's the one that they can eat, even

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Speaker 16: agree on what the time of day is. They've been

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Speaker 16: together all day trying to figure out who's going to

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Speaker 16: be their leader for the negotiations, to be prime minister.

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Speaker 4: So oh, okay, okay, they don't have a leader for

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Speaker 4: the negotiations they're going to come up with the prime ministers.

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Speaker 4: It's going to come from the NFP. So tell me

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Speaker 4: about the prime Minister of because this was the great question,

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Speaker 4: you say, the prime minister of France. Where are we

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Speaker 4: at with all of that?

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Speaker 16: Okay, Well, the old prime minister, Gabriella tal thirty five

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Speaker 16: years old, who's been prime minister since generary he will

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Speaker 16: stay on as caretaker. And what President Macron is doing

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Speaker 16: is hoping that he will stay there. He will help

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Speaker 16: lead the country through the Olympic Games and get us

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Speaker 16: over to the other side of the big holidays that

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Speaker 16: France has, and then they'll start perhaps looking for who's

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Speaker 16: going to take over. I think the main thing to

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Speaker 16: look at there, Andrew, is that Emmanuel Macron is clearly

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Speaker 16: playing a much longer game.

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Speaker 4: He's leaving it to the other.

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Speaker 16: Parties to sort of fight it out, put their plans

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Speaker 16: together and then come to him open sort of negotiations.

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Speaker 16: He has said nothing. We did expect him to say something,

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Speaker 16: anything at all, really would have been welcome for some

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Speaker 16: parts of the electorate. And of course on Wednesday he

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Speaker 16: will put off to the NATO summit of Washington, So

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Speaker 16: we're not really expecting him to sort of upset the

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Speaker 16: apple cart at the moment and just leave everything in gridlock.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Meanwhile, on the right, Jordan Badilla, he was taking

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Speaker 4: the blame for a while and then he wasn't taking

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Speaker 4: the blame for the while, and that they didn't get

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Speaker 4: to where they wanted to be. But he's already got

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Speaker 4: a new job.

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Speaker 11: He has.

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Speaker 17: This was a very interesting one.

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Speaker 16: It was just announced today, but apparently it had been

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Speaker 16: in the works. He was actually last month elected to

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Speaker 16: the European Parliament and he was their poster boy for

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Speaker 16: that campaign. Now he has teamed up with the new

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Speaker 16: far right grouping, the grouping that's known as Patriots for Europe,

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Speaker 16: with some of the more far right parties in the

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Speaker 16: European Parliament. He's going to be their lead man. Now

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Speaker 16: what this means really is he will as ahead of

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Speaker 16: that grouping it's the third largest grouping in the European Parliament.

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Speaker 16: He will get more time to speak in Parliament because

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Speaker 16: there's such a big group. He will be able to

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Speaker 16: every time he's a guest speaker. He will then be

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Speaker 16: able to get up and talk for however long he

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Speaker 16: wishes about air particular issue. And more importantly, because they

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Speaker 16: are such a big group twelve twelve different nations of

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Speaker 16: MP's MEPs in this group eighty four lawmakers, they will

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Speaker 16: get more money.

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Speaker 1: And that is what's.

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Speaker 16: Important when you're in Europe, and when you're a political

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Speaker 16: party that's really on its uppers is you need money.

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Speaker 16: So they will get that money. But what's more interesting,

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Speaker 16: a thankst to all that, Andrew, is they've spent the

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Speaker 16: last couple of weeks saying that they are their own masters.

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Speaker 16: They are not pro Russia. They are just looking at

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Speaker 16: what's useful for Europe. And now here we see them

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Speaker 16: joining up with Patricks for Europe, which is a very

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Speaker 16: pro Russia party in the European Parliament. And of course

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Speaker 16: the leader overall leader is the Hungarian primary Davica Auburn,

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Speaker 16: who is the most pro Russia pro China leader in Europe.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what a place and thank you so much. Catherine

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Speaker 4: Field out of Paris, France at nine minutes to seven

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Speaker 4: here on news Talk because ZEB still to come, to

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Speaker 4: be still to come, Coloe Swarbrick.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Diggins on them my casting Breakfast with the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: News Talk ZB. Yeah, I see.

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Speaker 4: The fire services completed their investigation into the house fire

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Speaker 4: in Manapuri which claimed the lines of an eleven year

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Speaker 4: old boy and his mum. This was last Thursday, so

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Speaker 4: the investigation is now complete and they've said it's because

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Speaker 4: of a heater coming into contact with flammable material likely

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Speaker 4: to be betting. I take that pleasure in reading this story,

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Speaker 4: but it's just to warn you, just to remind you

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Speaker 4: of how quickly and how deadly this can all be.

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Speaker 4: Fire in emergency. New Zealand Southern District Manager Julian tohio

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Speaker 4: Leiki said the house had no working smoke alarms at

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Speaker 4: the time of the fire. As he says, a fire

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Speaker 4: can be unsurvivable within just three minutes, which is why

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Speaker 4: you need the early warning of fire from a smoke

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Speaker 4: alarm because you can't smell smoke when you are asleep.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is a very good reminder for us.

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Speaker 4: All that's five to seven, all the ins and the outs,

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Speaker 4: it's the fizz on the Mike Hosking breakfast on newstalg ZB.

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Speaker 4: So it looks like US job growth is increasing at

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Speaker 4: an unsustainable rate. There's been a surgeon the labor for

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Speaker 4: some recent years. Despite Trump saying that the unemployment was

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Speaker 4: twenty percent or even forty two percent in some instances,

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Speaker 4: the official rate is actually four percent. It's one of

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Speaker 4: the few financial wins Biden has been able to promote.

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Speaker 4: But you can't keep it up. Research published by the

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Speaker 4: San Francisco Federal Preserve Bank says that to avoid a

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Speaker 4: rise in unemployment, the market needs to add two hundred

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Speaker 4: and thirty thousand new jobs a month. That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: It's long term estimate has always been around about seventy

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Speaker 4: to ninety thousand new jobs needed to keep the unemployment

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Speaker 4: rates stable. So you do the maths, and here as

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Speaker 4: where Trumpet and his supporters do get some ammunition. The

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Speaker 4: rise is because of the temporary increase in immigration, plus

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Speaker 4: labor force participation and this is News Talk set B.

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Speaker 4: Now talking about ammunition. Have you heard about the alpha gun?

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Speaker 4: The alpha gun is a gun that you can cut down.

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Speaker 4: It's a rifle. You can cut it down. It becomes

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Speaker 4: a handgun and then it has cartridges or ammunition that

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Speaker 4: do not throw out. The cartridges do not leave behind

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Speaker 4: forensic evidence. So the gangs love these guns. They get

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Speaker 4: legal gun buyers, by licensed gun buyers to buy the guns,

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Speaker 4: and they get them and they cut them down and

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Speaker 4: that's what they use. They don't leave the cartridges when

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Speaker 4: they use it. It's all good. The Alpha gun is

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Speaker 4: the gang gun. Well, now there are calls to ban them.

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Speaker 4: Should we should we ban this gun because the gangs

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Speaker 4: love them. Text me if you want ninety two ninety

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Speaker 4: two small charge does apply, but we will talk about that.

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Speaker 4: And right after the news Chloe Swarbrick, how much did

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Speaker 4: this then costs? Was your a liar?

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Speaker 5: And more?

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: Life Your Way, News Talk sad B.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Mike's on holiday, He'll be back Monday. Darling

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Speaker 4: Tanner The Green Party has asked Darlene to resign from

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Speaker 4: parliament following their report into allegations of migrant exploitation at

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Speaker 4: her husband's E Byke company. Neither the report or the

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Speaker 4: summary has been released. Darlene has resigned from the Green

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Speaker 4: Party but remains an MP and does not accept the

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Speaker 4: findings of the report. She thinks a predetermined view had

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Speaker 4: been formed before her opportunity to speak. So I'm joined

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Speaker 4: now by Green Party co leader Chloe Swarburg. Good morning, Choye.

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Speaker 4: Have you heard from Darlene ever night?

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Speaker 18: Not overnight? No, But again we would continue to push

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Speaker 18: that very clear request to her to please resign. Thereas

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Speaker 18: I think in everybody's interest here a very clear outcome

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Speaker 18: which looks like minimizing any more harm or collateral damage

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Speaker 18: or unnecessary tip for tat in the public arena, which

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Speaker 18: looks like a upbate of the escalation, and effectively her

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Speaker 18: accepting the unanimous decision.

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Speaker 19: Of our caucus.

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Speaker 4: Why is she not saying anything?

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Speaker 18: Look, I understand that media have been asking her to engage,

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Speaker 18: and she issued a press release as of about five

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Speaker 18: thirty or so last night. But again, look, you know

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Speaker 18: we have also, as the Green Party been clear that

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Speaker 18: our preference is for as quickly as possible fulsome release

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Speaker 18: for as much information in that report as is possible.

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Speaker 18: Given that she's now in a position where she's stating

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Speaker 18: publicly that she rejects that, well, she can potentially offer

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Speaker 18: her consent for the release of that report.

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Speaker 4: Being one of the named parties, we asked her to

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Speaker 4: talk to us. She said no. Now here's a question

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Speaker 4: for you. Why will you not reveal the total cost

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Speaker 4: of this investigation.

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Speaker 18: It's actually not a decision for me. That Sits was

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Speaker 18: effectively the party executive what we call our cony header,

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Speaker 18: so as I believe the party has advised the media

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Speaker 18: last night, of course, there is a lot of internal

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Speaker 18: discussion that has to happen off the back of this report,

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Speaker 18: so it will kind of you know, all details will

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Speaker 18: be revealed in due course. But the further point that

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Speaker 18: I'd make as well is that for all Green Party

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Speaker 18: members who may be tuned into News Talk Seed but

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Speaker 18: here otherwise, that we of course will have the opportunity

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Speaker 18: to folsomly discuss this, and I remain available to all

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Speaker 18: party members for our AHM and christ Church.

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Speaker 4: We found the Green Party spokesperson in charge of actually

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Speaker 4: this issue all over the place last night who told

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Speaker 4: us that the party has obligations to report financial statements

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Speaker 4: to members at the end of the financial year. So

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Speaker 4: was that spokesperson basically saying to us that we're not

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Speaker 4: going to find this out until March they first next year.

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Speaker 18: Well, i'd say that, Look, we've been really transparent about

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Speaker 18: the payment of this report when it came from the

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Speaker 18: Green Leader's office, ie from parliamentary funds, which is we've

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Speaker 18: also discussed and I've discussed on the show when it

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Speaker 18: was Mike, is something which of course is of due

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Speaker 18: public scrutiny for immediate release. But what we're talking about

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Speaker 18: now is when the burden of the cost of that

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Speaker 18: investigation transferred onto the parliament, onto the political party, not

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Speaker 18: to be confused with the parliamentary party, then you know,

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Speaker 18: it kind of entered into a realm whereby there was

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Speaker 18: that accountability directly to members because that's where the payment

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Speaker 18: is coming from, the general funds of the political party.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's how we know that you'd spend forty three

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars, because that was six weeks ago, and that's

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Speaker 4: because you told Mike you are the leader of the

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Speaker 4: party co leader of the party. You must know the number,

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Speaker 4: You must be able to make the decision to know

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Speaker 4: that it would be in your in your benefit to

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Speaker 4: actually reveal it.

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Speaker 18: Well, I'd start with the exact same premise, go out

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Speaker 18: to that last question with which is as this investigation

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Speaker 18: was initiated, it sat within our parliamentary office, and therefore,

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Speaker 18: as I said on the show with Mike, I absolutely

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Speaker 18: hold accountability for transparent release of that information as soon

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Speaker 18: and as humanly possible. But at the point at which

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Speaker 18: the burdens for paying the cost of that investigation transfers

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Speaker 18: to the political party, and therefore the responsibility is to

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Speaker 18: our members in terms of the use of our funds

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Speaker 18: of that party. Then those conversations of internally within the

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Speaker 18: party because it is no longer public funds.

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Speaker 4: Seeing his all right, So we'll wait for Mauch thirty first. Now, look,

656
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Speaker 4: you use the phrase that Darlene Tana was not forthright

657
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Speaker 4: with you or the party. Are you saying she lied

658
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Speaker 4: to you and reviewer people's chams?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Good, Well, if she didn't lie to you, of course

661
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Speaker 4: you could have saved your party in all of us

662
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Speaker 4: one hundred and fourteen days of bad headlines, but she

663
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Speaker 4: did and now here we how we and now here

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Speaker 4: we are? But why don't you release a report so

665
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Speaker 4: we can find out how shed to you well as

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Speaker 4: the city.

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Speaker 18: Andrew, I'm completely keen to release the report and have

668
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Speaker 18: given my consent as far as i am. Potentially one

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Speaker 18: of those named parties is other people involved with in

670
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Speaker 18: the Greens. So look, we have said that our immediate

671
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Speaker 18: preference is for release of that report, but we have

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Speaker 18: to continue following good process here, which means upholding privacy

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Speaker 18: law and consulting with all of the named parties, which,

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Speaker 18: by the way, and not just those to the subject

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Speaker 18: to allegation.

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Speaker 4: Even if the delays, even if the delays damaged the

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Speaker 4: party's reputation amongst the public.

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Speaker 18: This is why I'm talking to you on the show

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Speaker 18: right now. I'm giving you absolutely everything that I've got, Andrew.

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Speaker 4: Okay on our bizarre electoral system. Surely, as a list

681
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Speaker 4: MP representing the proportionality of the Green vote, she's lost

682
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Speaker 4: her mandate as soon as she withdrew the party's support.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree?

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Speaker 18: It would absolutely be our argument. We had thousands of

685
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Speaker 18: Green Party volunteers who poured their hearts and souls into

686
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Speaker 18: our campaign over between twenty three election and managed to

687
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Speaker 18: convince over three hundred thousand New Zealanders to put their

688
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Speaker 18: faith in their trust and our policies, our values and

689
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Speaker 18: our principles, which we've been clear we believe Darling Tana

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Speaker 18: has betrayed. So to that effect, I think New Zealand

691
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Speaker 18: voters can expect that the Green Party is entitled to

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Speaker 18: those fifteen seats that we want the election. And as

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Speaker 18: I kind of said it the stand up yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 18: the Green Party has long held that no one person

695
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Speaker 18: can change the world. Align the opposite of that is

696
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Speaker 18: that no one person is more important than the co

697
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Speaker 18: pupper then the projects that we're all involved in here

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Speaker 18: to try and make the world a better place. So

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Speaker 18: that's why we continue to make it really clear to

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Speaker 18: Darlan Tana the best thing that she can possibly do here,

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Speaker 18: if she says that she believes in the principles that

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Speaker 18: all of us campaigned on and were elected upon, then

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Speaker 18: it's time to recognize the bigger picture here.

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Speaker 4: Well, she swore her allegiance to you and her party.

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Speaker 4: She also swore her allegiance to the Speaker of the House,

706
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Speaker 4: and that's what she's holding on to Does that therefore

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Speaker 4: mean that our electoral system needs to change.

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Speaker 18: I'm sure that there will be a fast night of

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Speaker 18: people for myself, constitutional lawyers and others who can offer

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Speaker 18: more technical reckons on this in the days and the

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Speaker 18: weeks to come. But yeah, look, we've been clear. That's

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Speaker 18: as far as we can kind of see and is

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Speaker 18: where we stand crystal clear in the findings of that report.

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Speaker 18: Darling Tana is not fit to be a green putting

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Speaker 18: emp but more so than that, a member of Parliament.

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Speaker 18: And look, I take absolutely no pleasure and no joy

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Speaker 18: in that. And as I just said Beforety Andrew, I

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Speaker 18: am not interested in this tip for tat all things

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Speaker 18: continuing to play out in the media. It's in everybody's

720
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Speaker 18: best interest to de escalate here and for Darling to resign.

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Speaker 18: And she is a liar, has said that she was

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Speaker 18: not upfront with myself and Madama and as many in

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Speaker 18: the media have kind of put it back to me,

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Speaker 18: does that constitute lying?

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Speaker 19: I've told you, yes, it does.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it does well. At least that was one thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of tests coming in already, as

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Speaker 4: somebody saying waffle word, dribble et cets, she said that

729
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Speaker 4: Darlene Tana is a liar. Before that, she said fourth right,

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Speaker 4: so this is good, a great text through. Don't you

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Speaker 4: really hate the term? We have been really transparent when

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Speaker 4: we know nothing apart from please go oh and now

733
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Speaker 4: she's a liar? What do you think of that interview?

734
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Speaker 4: What did you think of how the Greens are handling this?

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Speaker 4: You can text me ninety two ninety two and we're

736
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Speaker 4: going to talk to Winston Peters after the seven thirty

737
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Speaker 4: news because he's our prime minister right now and I'm

738
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Speaker 4: sure as a man with experience of waker jumping himself

739
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Speaker 4: in many different ways, he will have something to say

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Speaker 4: about this whole mess. It is seven fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast News talks.

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Speaker 4: Here b thank you David for your text. Taxpayers paid

743
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Speaker 4: for most of that report and of course Darlene's salary

744
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Speaker 4: and still are therefore the report should be made public.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't agree more. Seven eighteen Have you heard about the

746
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Speaker 4: Alpha guns? They are Alpha carbines and our Alpha hunter

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Speaker 4: rifles gun can try. All advocates want to ban on

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Speaker 4: those rifles because they can be cut down into handguns. Now,

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Speaker 4: I hadn't heard about these guns until just a month

750
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Speaker 4: or two ago when somebody asked for some pictures on

751
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Speaker 4: the news. Criminals love these guns. They get around the

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Speaker 4: tight rules at them at their access to the handguns.

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Speaker 4: They cut them down so they're easily portable, and they

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Speaker 4: don't discard the shell so they don't leave forensic evidence.

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Speaker 4: About twenty one percent of these rifles brought into New

756
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Speaker 4: Zealand from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one have been

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Speaker 4: passed on to the criminals. We found this out from

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Speaker 4: the police. Co founder of Gun Control New Zealand. Nick

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Speaker 4: Green is with me.

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Speaker 20: Now, have a Nick good Andrew, how are you.

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Speaker 4: Good outside of crime? What do people use these sorts

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Speaker 4: of guns for.

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Speaker 20: It's pretty hard to tell, actually, I mean, they arguably

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Speaker 20: have a use for hunting, but you've got much better options.

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Speaker 20: You've got three or threes, you've got shotguns. Argue, there's

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Speaker 20: really not a very strong case to have these guns

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Speaker 20: in the country to begin with.

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Speaker 4: But we let them men.

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Speaker 1: Why we let them in because they're legal.

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Speaker 20: You know, the police fight us ongoing bad of having

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Speaker 20: to assess the applications and trying to block them. But

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Speaker 20: because they're not prohibited, it's quite hard to stop them

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Speaker 20: coming in.

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Speaker 4: Should they be prohibited in your view yes, and our view.

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Speaker 20: You know, you need to stop the very dangerous gud

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Speaker 20: into the community. We did that with the similutomatic weapons.

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Speaker 20: These are very similar. They're highly split after by criminals,

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Speaker 20: They're easily converted into pistols and can be used in crimes.

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Speaker 20: In our view, they pose a real threat to the community.

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Speaker 20: And it's worth threst.

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Speaker 4: Well, why are we talking about this now? Shouldn't we

782
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Speaker 4: have talked about it when they got the license, when

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Speaker 4: the police gave them the license to import the guns

784
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Speaker 4: in the first place. I mean, the guns are here.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit late said that, mate.

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Speaker 20: Well, some of them are in. The question is should

787
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Speaker 20: we stop the flow, the further flow coming in? Right,

788
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Speaker 20: we stop simi automatic weapons. Why do you want to

789
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Speaker 20: make life easy for criminals and let more of these

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Speaker 20: guns come in when we know that a fair chunk

791
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Speaker 20: of them will end up in the hands of games

792
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Speaker 20: and criminals.

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Speaker 4: So should the process of importing guns into New Zealand

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Speaker 4: to then be sold be changed so that there's a

795
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Speaker 4: chance for public expression of disquiet, which you would have

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Speaker 4: done for the Alphors when they when they first came.

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Speaker 5: In it's a question of public risk.

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Speaker 20: Lots of guns are perfectly safe, have legitimate uses, like

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Speaker 20: shotguns and rifles, But the things that post a particular

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Speaker 20: rest of the community, like semi automatic weapons or things

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Speaker 20: that can be converted into pistols, we think there's a

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Speaker 20: higher threshold involved.

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Speaker 4: Okay, is it just the alpha carbines and the alpha

804
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Speaker 4: hunters you want to ban on?

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Speaker 20: These are the most prominent ones. We think we've got

806
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Speaker 20: with most of the signify and guns, But it's an

807
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Speaker 20: ongoing game, right of wag mole. The police need to

808
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Speaker 20: be on top of their game and need to have

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Speaker 20: the tools to keep the community safe.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything else you're wanting to see in the

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Speaker 4: government's re right of the Firearms Act, which they're into

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Speaker 4: right now, And do you have confidence in that rewrite

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Speaker 4: because they seem to be more liberal about gun ownership

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Speaker 4: than the previous lot.

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Speaker 20: Well, in IRV, there's like there's three things you need

816
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Speaker 20: to do to keep the community safe. You need really

817
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Speaker 20: strict rules and processes to make sure that only response

818
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Speaker 20: where people can get a license in a gun. You

819
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Speaker 20: need to register all the guns in the community so

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Speaker 20: that if someone does try and sell it to a

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Speaker 20: criminal right game, member, there's a high chance to get caught.

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Speaker 20: And the third thing you need to do is you

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Speaker 20: need to stop really dangerous guns from getting into the country.

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Speaker 20: Those are the three things we think any new law

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Speaker 20: needs to uphold.

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Speaker 4: Mat Green, co founder of gun Controlling Hilda, thank you

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Speaker 4: for your time today, Mike writes Andrew. Simply banning items

828
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Speaker 4: doesn't work. Banning ferraris would drop the road toll. The

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Speaker 4: new firearms prohibition orders are a much better way of

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Speaker 4: targeting the people who actually physically harm others. Ninety two

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Speaker 4: ninety two is the text. It is seven twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Mike Costal breakfast, this talks.

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Speaker 4: Heb seven twenty four, or this talk about Darlene Tanner.

834
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Speaker 4: Has she phoned us up and said I'm out of here.

835
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Speaker 4: I've had enough, I'm gone goodbye. No, as she continues

836
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Speaker 4: to hang around, sticking up the place like a festering

837
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Speaker 4: fish head at a hangey. Because the Green Party will

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Speaker 4: not invoke the wucker jumping rules because I never believed

839
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Speaker 4: in them. The bastard who please resign, which fits their

840
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Speaker 4: ethos of collectivity, wouldn't be nice if Darlene Tanner had

841
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Speaker 4: a sense of collectivity and realize that collectivity says, get out.

842
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Speaker 4: We still don't know what she's done at her husband's

843
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Speaker 4: bike firm. Coy wouldn't tell us. Greens think it's bad.

844
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Speaker 4: I guess Darlene released a statement yesterday she disagreed with everything. Now, look,

845
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Speaker 4: it's not all this alleged misbehavior that's damaging for the Greens.

846
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Speaker 4: It's the way they're doing it. It's the turn of

847
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Speaker 4: it all. It's the processes. Back in March, Trisshessaid and

848
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Speaker 4: Matt Robson were on the panel with the Heather and

849
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Speaker 4: they wanted the reputational risk the Greens could get when

850
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Speaker 4: it first blew up if they did not act urgently.

851
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Speaker 4: They did not act urgently. Kloy Swallbrick yesterday said if

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Speaker 4: Tanna had been forthright, then the investigation would never have

853
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Speaker 4: been needed. But that's just not sensical because as far

854
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Speaker 4: as Darlene reckons, he's done nothing wrong. So she wasn't

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Speaker 4: going to say that. Also, why Chloy did you say

856
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Speaker 4: forthright yesterday? But you're quite prepared to say lie today.

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Speaker 1: Just call it what it is.

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Speaker 4: She lied to you, that's your opinion, she lied to you,

859
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Speaker 4: Just say it. The investigation is far too long part

860
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Speaker 4: paidful by the taxpayer. Then the Greens took over. Then

861
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Speaker 4: of course you've got Darlene's salary paidful by the taxpayer.

862
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Speaker 4: You've got Darlene's continued salary paid for by the taxpayer.

863
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Speaker 4: So us you me, we've been paying for most of this,

864
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Speaker 4: so we deserve to know what it's cost. This is

865
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Speaker 4: a disrespect of public money from the MP and her

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Speaker 4: former party by not telling us. The announcements coincided with

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Speaker 4: marm and Davidson's absence due to medical reasons. Now that's

868
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Speaker 4: probably just a coincidence, but remember Madame and Davidson was

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Speaker 4: the one who chose Darlene Tana to be nominated as

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Speaker 4: a Green MP. Madame and Davidson Baktana to contest Davidson's

871
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Speaker 4: former electorate. She got three thousand votes, Madam have vacated

872
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: that place for a list place. Madame and Davidson and

873
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 4: team decided that Darlene was worth a high less ranking

874
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: of thirteen. Bingo, she's an MP representing nobody but her

875
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: party and its leader and the three thousand people who've

876
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 4: voted for it. In Tommacky Macoro, she is representing a

877
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: party and a leader she has treated with contempt. So

878
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: all of this reflects on the Greens and Madame and

879
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: Davidson's ability or should I say inability to pick good talent.

880
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: And then there's our bizarre electoral law and Labarynthine systems,

881
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: which means we have to we have to have Darlene

882
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: contact the Speaker herself to fire herself. She ain't doing that.

883
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: No Turkey votes for Christmas. And it's particularly galling when

884
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Speaker 4: it's List MPs who are only there at the behest

885
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: of a party. Really, when a List MP resigns from

886
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 4: a party, they should immediately be much from the chamber

887
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: because she has lost a mandate. When St Peter's after

888
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: News and Sport, which is next.

889
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

890
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar The

891
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Speaker 2: Art of Performance News Talks at b.

892
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 5: I can't say.

893
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 4: It's a bit of Little Nine, No, not d d

894
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Speaker 4: Smash the Dudes, but there is certainly Dave Dobbin, did

895
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 4: you know that the Dudes are getting back together again?

896
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Speaker 4: Had you heard, in fact that they'd split up? Actually

897
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Speaker 4: have They've done their final concept, but they've got one

898
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Speaker 4: more coming up in August. So I'm going to ask

899
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: Peter Urch what's this about, what you're going to do

900
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Speaker 4: and how are things to eight o'clock today it is

901
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: twenty three to eight. Prime Minister christpher Luxon, of course

902
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: in the United States of America New Zealand invited to

903
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Speaker 4: join the conference with NATO to discuss the issues of

904
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Speaker 4: the day. Therefore, the acting Prime Minister is now Winston Peters,

905
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: who joins me. Now, good morning, Winston, good morning, and

906
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: with your hat on as a foreign minister and with

907
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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister in the United States of America, what

908
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 4: are you hoping that we and he gets out of

909
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Speaker 4: his trip to America.

910
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 12: Well, he's arriving at a very bad time in the

911
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 12: conference in the sense of the escalating war in Ukraine.

912
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 12: This is going to be of serious concern to all

913
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Speaker 12: the native countries. Of course, She've got the oncoming election

914
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Speaker 12: in United States where things are very uncertain as they

915
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Speaker 12: were in France now they were in the UK in

916
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Speaker 12: recent weeks. So this is a very interesting trip. But

917
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Speaker 12: it's very important for him and also has the chance

918
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Speaker 12: to make connections on the West Coast, in particular with

919
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Speaker 12: respect to an easy economic future.

920
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: Indeed, and talking with Apple as well, which is fascinating.

921
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: What's happening there.

922
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Speaker 12: We'll have to wait until the conversation.

923
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Speaker 4: What the conversation is about, all right, Okay? The issue

924
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Speaker 4: of the day of the week, of the last one

925
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Speaker 4: hundred and sixteen days is Darling Tanner is now asked

926
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Speaker 4: to resign from Parliament. Your your feelings on the case

927
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Speaker 4: and our electoral law at the moment, well.

928
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Speaker 12: Our electoral laws final, except that it's not being enforced.

929
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Speaker 12: This is a disgrace. I mean, forty two thousand dollars

930
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 12: of taxpaers mooney has been used by the Greens to

931
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Speaker 12: find out what was going on when they should be

932
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Speaker 12: spent their own money. You've got someone who has been

933
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Speaker 12: told that she should keep de parliament. She probably wrote

934
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Speaker 12: she probably going join the Mari party. And then you

935
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Speaker 12: got these purists saying we will not enforce the law

936
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Speaker 12: that's already there now to ensure that the proportionality of

937
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Speaker 12: parliament remains. And it demonstrates that, you know, some parties

938
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Speaker 12: are getting away with stuff because there were members there

939
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Speaker 12: but claiming qualifications they never had.

940
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Speaker 14: They were never.

941
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Speaker 12: Challenged by the mainstream media. There comes another example where

942
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 12: this level of tolerance for a party that's demonstrating every

943
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 12: day how bad it would be if they ever got

944
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Speaker 12: to be in control of the government. And nevertheless, in

945
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Speaker 12: these circumstances, she's still there and she should not be there.

946
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 12: And in the sense that everybody's got to be accountable

947
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Speaker 12: and she's not.

948
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Speaker 4: Well, they're claiming that they've done everything they can. They

949
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: asked you to resign for the party. That she resigns,

950
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Speaker 4: then it's up to her to go to the Speaker

951
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: and resign herself. But as I said earlier.

952
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Speaker 12: And sorry, they're not doing it, and they can. They

953
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Speaker 12: could expel her, and then they could may have very

954
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 12: feared the speaker that she's no longer a member of

955
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Speaker 12: their party, and they would mean that she would have

956
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 12: to stand down as an MP. All law is right

957
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Speaker 12: in front of them written for such circumstances. But the

958
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Speaker 12: question is you chose this person who could not be trusted,

959
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 12: and how you're saying that it's all the rest of

960
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 12: us and our problem about getting rid of this person.

961
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 12: Whether it's a male or female MP, doesn't matter. It's

962
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Speaker 12: simply not satisfactory.

963
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 4: And their attitude towards public money, the public did provide

964
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Speaker 4: forty three thousand dollars. But that was until six weeks

965
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: ago when then, of course, the Greens started to privately

966
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Speaker 4: finance their investigation. Due to that, they're now saying they

967
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Speaker 4: can't reveal the cost of the investigation because they have

968
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: to tell their members first, and you'll find out in

969
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: the financial papers at the end of the financial gear is.

970
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 14: That is that a press true?

971
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Speaker 4: But is that an appropriate way of behavior?

972
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 21: Now?

973
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Speaker 12: That's not a private way to be our behavior. That's

974
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 12: true above the forty two thousand. But why did they

975
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 12: spend the forty two thousand of taxpayers money when they

976
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 12: should not have in the first place. I mean, this

977
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 12: is a case I've been remember the fans of report

978
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Speaker 12: recognition by speaking Mallard. Only one party survived, the fans

979
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 12: of reporting back National Parliament behavior. And there was a

980
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 12: zil first, so they didn't say so and here we

981
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 12: go again covering things up. Now here's the point. She's

982
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 12: also not been a palm for one hundred days. How

983
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 12: can you get away with that? But that's the Green

984
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 12: Party standard and they ever got in the government, they'll

985
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 12: be chaos in this country.

986
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Speaker 4: They have a lot of people they have to talk

987
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: to before they'll talk to us. It seems now your

988
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: trip to the Pacific, how is the Pacific? What do

989
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: you think came out of it?

990
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 12: Well, we went to the Solomon Islands and Naru and

991
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 12: New a Solomon's courses a struggling economy, and we went

992
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 12: to open the Sege Airport, which we finnounced with Australia.

993
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 12: These partnerships are seriously working. It was a very good

994
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Speaker 12: trip in the context of seeing everybody that mattered. We

995
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 12: took a high hip out cross party team from National Newsial,

996
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 12: First Letter and the Greens and we had excellent meetings

997
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 12: in all three countries.

998
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 5: So it was very.

999
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 12: Worthwhile in catching up as fast as we can in

1000
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 12: an area that's been seriously neglected. The point they made

1001
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 12: to us was we see something new coming from New Zealand.

1002
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 12: We see an intensity of interest in our region that

1003
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 12: we haven't seen for a long time.

1004
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: Yes, and if you have a vacuum or nature of bores,

1005
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: vacuum and influences, it gets built. Yeah, it gets filled

1006
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: with people like China, doesn't it.

1007
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 12: I'm not saying what this gets filled by, but we

1008
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 12: have a duty in our background nations around us, in

1009
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 12: our neighborhood, and it's part of our long term security

1010
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 12: to play attention player role and ensure, along with other

1011
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 12: countries that believe in the rule of law, democracy, freedom

1012
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 12: and the right to worship freely as well, that those

1013
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 12: things are not lost because of our resignation from our responsibilities.

1014
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 4: So Christopher Bishop has come up with you housing crisis policies,

1015
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 4: which means increasing lands. So we're going out, we're also

1016
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 4: going up, and we're also going small limits, no minimum limits.

1017
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 4: Were you surprised at the backlash against shoe box housing

1018
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: and that part of the debate over the past week.

1019
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 12: I want surprise. There's so many people in this bay

1020
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 12: who are so disconnected to reality. Would they want people

1021
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 12: to go on living under a bridgish living in a tent,

1022
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 12: living in a car, living in horrible circumstances, or to

1023
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 12: want to give them a chance? The reality is we

1024
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 12: were the ones that brought in thirty square meters we

1025
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 12: call them GWNI flats back then. They're now sixty square meters,

1026
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 12: requiring only an engineer's report, and people are flocking to

1027
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 12: build those circums in those circumstances. Why don't we ask

1028
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 12: the market what they want rather than have the so

1029
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 12: called experts, whose record is not to produce media enough

1030
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 12: houses in the way that we did in the former

1031
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 12: time when we really were a popular in democracy and

1032
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 12: we had a proud record. But then, of course, back

1033
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 12: then we had practical members of parliament knew a bit

1034
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 12: about poverty. Now I go far from the experts and

1035
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 12: don't know and want their standards to be maintained despite

1036
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 12: the fact that we're slipping very badly in our home ownership.

1037
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 12: We want young people to get a first chance to

1038
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 12: get into their first home, get on the ladder going forward.

1039
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: Well, so, Peter's acting Prime Minister. I thank you for

1040
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 4: your time today. It is now sixteen minutes. As I say,

1041
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: Peter Urlch is joining me out at eight o'clock today

1042
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: to explain a big old Please explain why are the

1043
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: dudes getting back together again when we all went to

1044
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: your farewell gig last year? Hey, hey, hey, what's that

1045
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: all about?

1046
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 19: Heh?

1047
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: And also still to come John Howie. And now he

1048
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: is a fellow who's done a survey on intergenerational wealth

1049
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 4: and how it holds young people back. And he's asked

1050
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: the question, what do we value more owning stuff or

1051
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: earning stuff, and that's a good question. It is now

1052
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: sixteen to eight the Mike Hosking Breakfast. It is now

1053
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: thirteen to eight. I'm in pred Dickens and for Mike Hosking,

1054
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: he's on holiday. He's back on Monday. Text from Clayton Winston.

1055
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: Peter's the politician we love to hate and hate to love,

1056
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 4: and he is making it extremely difficult to dislike him

1057
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: these days. Have you only just noticed I've always liked Winston.

1058
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: Susie Wilds. I know some people would have woken up

1059
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: this morning and went what Susie Wilds gets twenty k

1060
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 4: from the university. She has received twenty thousand dollars from

1061
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: the University of Auckland after the employment. The court found

1062
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: the university did not do enough to keep her safe

1063
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 4: at work. The court said that was not intentional, but

1064
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: it happened, and they said the university did not reach

1065
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: her academic freedom, but they should have kept her safer

1066
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 4: because of the torrent or what they call it the

1067
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: tsunami of abuse that she was receiving under threats now,

1068
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: of course, Susie took it upon herself to enter the

1069
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: fray around the COVID response. It was not at the

1070
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: university's urging. So look, she is still responsible for putting

1071
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 4: herself in that situation. Maybe she didn't think that situation

1072
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: would happen, but it did. It was Susie's argument that

1073
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: the university had a duty to protect her academic freedom.

1074
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: This is an argument she lost. She says she was

1075
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: commenting on stuff that she was supposedly academically trained to do.

1076
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 4: But I remember at the time a lot of people

1077
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: were wondering why a microbiologist was so embroidered a medical debate,

1078
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: and her qualifications were continually questioned. Susie was continually questioned.

1079
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: People didn't even like a hair. So this messy, bruising

1080
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: affair is over Susie's treatment by opponents of vaccines and mandates,

1081
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: and the COVID response was truly appalling. The names and

1082
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: the violence and the threatened violence truly appalling. But when

1083
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: people wade into the muck of public debate, it's a

1084
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: big call to expect our employer to wade in with

1085
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Speaker 4: them and run protection. If Susie had been a baker

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00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: at a bakery, would the bakery have then waded in

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00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: to protect her after she went so public? But the

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00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: whole thing about the story for me is it's an

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: echo of a very unfortunate time in this country's history.

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00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 4: And we can expect more repercussions and more public disquiet

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00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: as the Royal Commission into our COVID response approaches. And

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00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 4: so you have been warned tend to wait.

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on them My costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real

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00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: Estate News Talks V.

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Speaker 4: All right, here's a question for you, with time at

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: seven minutes to eight. What is more important what you

1097
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: own or how hard you work? New research from online

1098
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: investment platform Steak reveals it twice as many kiwis think

1099
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: it's all about.

1100
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: What you own.

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: Fewer qvs define financial success as having a business or

1102
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: a good job title. It's what you got, it's your stuff.

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00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 4: Four and five. I think we'll be working past the

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00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 4: retirement age of sixty five and sixty percent believe the

1105
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: intergenerational wealth gap is holding young people back. So the

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Speaker 4: CEO of Steak, John Howie, joins me.

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Speaker 22: Now, Hello, John, Hey, Andrew, good morning.

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00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: It's kind of proof that really we're in an asset

1109
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: class economy, aren't we. It's why the art market booms,

1110
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 4: that's why the property market booms, We buy stuff, and

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00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: if you buy stuff, you're safe.

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00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 19: Well.

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00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 22: Look, I think that's to some extent what the results

1114
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 22: of the surveys say is that what we've seen over

1115
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 22: the last couple of years is there's been a set

1116
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 22: price inflation, both in property but also in things like

1117
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 22: listed and if you were lucky enough to own those,

1118
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 22: coming into that period of growth in those asset prices,

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00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 22: you've done very well. But the survey that we've conducted

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Speaker 22: shows ultimately that particularly young investors realize that and they're

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 22: starting to take action and ultimately look to control the

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00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 22: decisions they make about their financial future.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and as is evidence of the bleak times that

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00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 4: pretty much everybody in the world is at the moment,

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00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 4: and that you know, getting the stuff is good. The

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00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: actual day to day economy, you know, working and earning

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00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: a wage as chump change.

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Speaker 22: Look, I think we've seen certainly after the COVID period,

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00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 22: pride of COVID inflation and wages in general sort of

1130
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 22: moved pretty closely tied to each other. But then during

1131
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 22: the COVID period we saw particularly inflation, goods inflation, services

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00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 22: inflation accelerate very rapidly, and wages just simply didn't keep up. Now,

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 22: the good news is more recently, particularly in New Zealand,

1134
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 22: that's turned around and actually wages inflation has stayed reasonably

1135
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 22: strong and goods inflation has come down. But what we've

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00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 22: certainly seen is people realize that for a while our

1137
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 22: wages really hasn't kept up and they need to start.

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00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 5: Thinking about what they do about that.

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00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 4: We also have to start thinking about what we're going

1140
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 4: to do about pensions. Four and five of us we'll

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00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: be working past the retirement age of sixty five, and

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: there is a general aged concern at the moment. I mean,

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00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: the number of ninety year olds is going to go

1144
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: through the roof over the next couple of years according

1145
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: to age concern research. So we're going to work longer

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00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: and harder, and we have to look after ourselves, do we.

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00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 22: Not, Absolutely, We've got to look after ourselves physically, mentally

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00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 22: and also financially. And again I think that's what we're

1149
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 22: starting to see as particularly young people are realizing that.

1150
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 22: And the look the good news is it's easier these

1151
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 22: days to take control of that and make some decisions

1152
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 22: around being financially healthy into the future, getting access to

1153
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 22: things like US equities, for example, which have significantly outperformed

1154
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 22: key WE equities over the last five years. And again,

1155
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 22: if for investors who are thinking about how do they

1156
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 22: create a healthy financial future, looking at some of those

1157
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 22: opportunities is really important. And certainly what we're seeing from

1158
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 22: the survey.

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00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: John Howey who did the survey, his company did. He

1160
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: is a CEO of Stake and I thank you for

1161
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 4: your time today and this is News Talks. He'll be

1162
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: and I'm Andrew Dickinson for Mike, who's on holiday at

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00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: the moment. Now a bit of rock and roll coming

1164
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: up for you right after the eight o'clock news, and

1165
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: it's mister Peter Ervich, cover of Rock and Roll Points

1166
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 4: with this man, lead singer of the Dudes, introducer of

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00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: club and dance culture to New Zealand back in the day,

1168
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 4: and writer of the Warriors song that has gone off

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00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 4: over the course of this year and playing with the

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: Dudes again even though they did their farewell concert. And

1171
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 4: so that's it's over, but apparently it's not. What the

1172
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: hell's that about? Pete's next they're on Newstalks.

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: There'll be the Breakfast Show.

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00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: You intro Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

1175
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy

1176
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: three used talk said b I.

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Speaker 3: Get over the hang it over the phone, hang it

1178
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 3: over the met new but kick it over you would all.

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Speaker 17: Not.

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Speaker 4: If you're welcome to the program. My name is Andrew Dickinson.

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00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: Is the ninth of July. Mike Hosking is on holiday.

1182
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 4: He's back on Monday, tax through. What's with the music choices?

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: This morning, guys, way too early for rock and roll

1184
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: at seven am? Do we think it's way too early

1185
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 4: for rock and roll at seven am? Glenn?

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 8: I may for some people that's still at the end

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 8: of the night.

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00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: Exactly right, it's dinner time. Well, look, there's a reason

1189
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: we're playing this rock and roll because what we're playing

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Speaker 4: is this is the Dude recorded live two thousand and six,

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: the big farewell to it. And the reason we're playing

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: the Dudes live is because the Dudes are coming back.

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 4: We all thought they were done in twenty twenty when

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: they played there supposedly final gig at Spark Arena. The

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01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: magnificently names what was it the greatest pub gig in

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Speaker 4: the land, and it was anyway, it was not. So

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Speaker 4: they're coming back performing a one off show at the

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Speaker 4: power Station on aucard next month with the blessing of

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Speaker 4: Dave Dobbin, who will not be involved, but the lead

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Speaker 4: singer will and his name is Peter Urlitch and Pete,

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Speaker 4: it's good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 19: Good morning, Andrew, it's good to hear that. It's good

1203
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 19: to hear that on the My Costume Breakfast show.

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01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 14: God, that was so good.

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01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: I mean, did you hear the pounding drums from Lee's

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01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 4: ham from hambling there? Bruce hambling there? I mean, is

1207
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: he still capable of doing that?

1208
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 19: Honestly? Bruce is still playing. He's in in a couple

1209
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 19: of bands down in christ Church, and Andrew, in a way,

1210
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 19: you can kind of blame Bruce for this. It's nice

1211
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 19: to blame somebody else because he's in love with the dudes.

1212
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 19: And he would ring me about kind of about every

1213
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 19: six weeks, and I'd just see the name come up

1214
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 19: on the phone like oh no, and then and I'd

1215
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 19: finally pick come and go home for Rest and go hopey,

1216
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 19: have you heard any news? And I was like no, Oh,

1217
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 19: I just thought, you know, we might we might be

1218
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 19: getting back together and I go, uh.

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 5: And there you go.

1220
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 4: You know what that reminds me of? That reminds me

1221
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: of Pete Warren better known as Ruder, who's the drummer

1222
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: for D D Smass And he's always like, guys, I'm

1223
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: not doing much at the moment, why don't we have

1224
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 4: a reunion? And we've never had a reunion of D

1225
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: D Smash. But Peter, here's the thing you said at

1226
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: the biggest pub gig in the world in twenty twenty.

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01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: I can't believe it was so long ago. Either time

1228
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 4: has flown. You said this was your final gig, So

1229
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 4: what the hell is this new gig abound?

1230
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 19: I'm not sure. I said that maybe you could talk

1231
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 19: to bren Nicchols promoter. But you know, on a serious note,

1232
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 19: people are thinking, you know when you say that you know,

1233
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 19: and how much you know? How much credence do you

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01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 19: give it? But the thing was, Andrew, if you can

1235
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 19: only imagine in your own head, when we played those

1236
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 19: last few songs at the Victor Arena and I'm looking

1237
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 19: around and I'm thinking, is this really? Is this really

1238
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 19: going to be the last time we get up on

1239
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 19: stage and sing these songs? And there was just this

1240
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 19: feeling inside me that thought, oh, well, you know, that's

1241
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 19: that's hard to swallow. And so I guess in the

1242
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 19: intervening four years, you know, we coughed it up again

1243
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 19: and and you know, we thought that that the demand

1244
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 19: was still there. These songs are without a word of

1245
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 19: a lie, and probably every week someone will send me

1246
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 19: a handheld video recording of some act somewhere, some occasion

1247
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 19: where a dude song was being bashed out, and you know,

1248
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 19: I just thought the love was still there. So and

1249
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 19: of course we wanted to play. And unfortunately it's very

1250
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 19: sad that our dear friend Dave, who have nonsense I

1251
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 19: was ten, is going to concentrate on his solo stuff.

1252
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 19: We begged him to play again, but he said no,

1253
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 19: We've got his blessing, he said, go for it, And

1254
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 19: so you know we're out there.

1255
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 14: We're out there again.

1256
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 22: Of course, yeah, this is this is.

1257
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 19: The only show we've got. We don't have anything else, and.

1258
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: Nobody believes that anymore. Mate, I'm telling you a confirm, liar.

1259
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to.

1260
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 8: You've got to.

1261
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 4: You've got a record of line, We've got an audio

1262
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: of you, Like goodness me, you're like Darling Tanna now,

1263
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 4: But no, look, here's here's the thing. My silver bullet

1264
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 4: question was, so Dave Dobbin will not be involved in

1265
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: the concert, and knowing that Dave, you know, has has

1266
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: a battle against Parkinson's, of course, and nobody said what

1267
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 4: what the story was about that? You can quite easily

1268
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: presume the worst, Peter, So, so are you saying he

1269
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: had professional requirements to fulfill as opposed to he couldn't

1270
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: do it?

1271
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 19: I know, he's he's still playing. He's still playing with

1273
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 19: that incredible repertoire of songs that and but you know,

1274
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 19: he's just making sure that the gigs that the Dave

1275
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 19: Dobbin gigs that he that he does, you know, you

1276
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 19: know he's going to concentrate on that, and you know, yeah,

1277
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 19: so there's no doubt he will still be on stage.

1278
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: In his own right in the foreseeable future.

1279
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 19: Oh absolutely, that's right.

1280
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 4: And there's no doubt that the dudes will be back

1281
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: again one more time. But look, I'll leave you there

1282
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: for a moment and we'll come back in just a

1283
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 4: few Moment's time to talk about how on earth do

1284
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 4: you replace Sir Dave dobbyin How on Earth do you

1285
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 4: do the blazing solos with the fender. That's next here

1286
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 4: on News Talk ZBB, the Mic Hosking Breakfast News Talk

1287
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 4: ter lead singer of the Dudes is my very special Porridge.

1288
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 4: He's starring the porridge.

1289
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 19: This an old school guy.

1290
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 4: A part of this is the lifestyle of the old

1291
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: age pensioner, rock and roll pensioner.

1292
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 19: Got slippers.

1293
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 1: It's good.

1294
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 4: It's good because he it was in that magazine article

1295
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 4: that came out about a year ago. It's about you

1296
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 4: tuning sixty five and all. But you're a young heart

1297
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: with the young family.

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Speaker 19: Well, and I just want to keep playing forever, Andrew,

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Speaker 19: quite simply, I mean, I am so grateful that for

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Speaker 19: the last forty six seven years of being a musician,

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Speaker 19: you know, and May basically made people happy. So that's

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Speaker 19: what we hope to do on August twenty fourth. And

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Speaker 19: as you mentioned, you know who comes in on guitar

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Speaker 19: instead of in the legend and Dave and we've got

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Speaker 19: the one and only Britt Adams. I don't know if

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Speaker 19: from the listening public is that aware of Brett, but

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Speaker 19: he was originally in the Mockers and he has a

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Speaker 19: wonderful group called the bads with Diane Swan and he'll

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Speaker 19: be stepping in on a live Paul and he is.

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Speaker 19: He's amazing. And in fact I had I went to

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Speaker 19: Dave and I said, Dave, you know, we're thinking of

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Speaker 19: bringing a bread and for the on the other guitar,

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Speaker 19: and he fully, fully endorsed it. He thinks he's quite amazing.

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Speaker 19: So when you're talking about those solos, just wait until

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Speaker 19: you hear Brett rip off those solos.

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Speaker 4: People will know Bret Adams because he's got a lot

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Speaker 4: of things from the Come Together tours which have been

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Speaker 4: going now and going to christ and he's been able

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Speaker 4: to reprecate all the greatest players of all time. And

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Speaker 4: he is I would actually say he is the greatest

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Speaker 4: gigging guitar player in New Zealand of the moment right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Today I had a man who.

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Speaker 19: Knows he's a man who knows his music. Thank you, Andrew.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, let's talk about more. And we can't have Ian

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Speaker 4: Morris because of course Ian Morris is not with us anymore,

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Speaker 4: but we do have his brother.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and how cool is that because that Ricky as

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Speaker 19: a seventeen year old was our roadie. Went right back

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Speaker 19: in the day. And you know, so in a way

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Speaker 19: he's always been in the fold, and in fact, he

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Speaker 19: knows more about when he first came into the brand

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Speaker 19: to replace him. He was he told us that we're

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Speaker 19: playing a couple of wrong chords of fish, you know,

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Speaker 19: and so he's kind of it's just wonderful to be

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Speaker 19: able to look to my right and see him standing there,

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Speaker 19: because he he does look a little bit like Ian,

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Speaker 19: so you know, you know, it's fabulous and of course

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Speaker 19: leaves White on bass with some great base. Well you know,

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Speaker 19: just yeah, I'm starting to rape now.

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Speaker 4: But no, it's okay. He's a tall guy with the

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Speaker 4: big noses at the back and he's always he's right

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Speaker 4: all right. But by the way, did you know that

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Speaker 4: Ricky is releasing on August the thirtieth, his first album

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Speaker 4: in twenty eight years, and he's called the album It's

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Speaker 4: about time.

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Speaker 19: It's going to wonderfully right into humor.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm excited.

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Speaker 19: Thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 4: Don't do I get to wrap up the interview? Mate.

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Speaker 4: First of all, somebody has texted it and said, Brett

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Speaker 4: Adams great, but where is the christ Church show?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 19: Christ? Yes, they want you to well, you never know,

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Speaker 19: christ Church, you never know.

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Speaker 4: Another text says, goes another texas, why was Pete Warren

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Speaker 4: called ruder? And I thought we wouldn't answer that we

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Speaker 4: won't go there, okay. And the other one is I

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Speaker 4: think this is important because you're with the writer of

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Speaker 4: the Warriors. Chant asked Pete asked the Pete if the

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Speaker 4: Eastern Roosters are going to be there.

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Speaker 19: Oh, that's my old football team. Yeah, I'm sure they

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Speaker 19: will be. I'm sure they will be. There's good. It's

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Speaker 19: it's just like a it's a it's a bit of

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Speaker 19: a reunion, not only for the band but for the

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Speaker 19: for the fans. And all I'm going to say is please,

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Speaker 19: you know we're half sold out on the first dat

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Speaker 19: ticket sales already, so please if you want to be

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Speaker 19: there at now, very.

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Speaker 4: Good, Where go on?

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Speaker 1: Do someself ticket master, don ticket master, very.

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Speaker 4: Good, dot co dot ms here master. Hey. Another text,

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Speaker 4: Andrew peat and the dude should sing our national anthem

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Speaker 4: and the yessue should. But look, it's been lovely having

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Speaker 4: a chat again. Peter, look after yourself and give my

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Speaker 4: love to Danielle.

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Speaker 19: Thank you, thank you, Andrew, have a great day.

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Speaker 5: Biba hung up on him nice a bit rude.

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Speaker 2: It's say twenty Andrew Dickens on the my casking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: with Vida Retirement, Communities news Talks, he B News Talks.

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Speaker 4: HEB the lich a legend. Thank you for your text

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Speaker 4: ninety two ninety two. It is now eight twenty seven. Hey,

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Speaker 4: So there's a bit of a White House press conference

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Speaker 4: hapening at the moment, and we've got the White House

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Speaker 4: spokesperson caring Jean Pierre, the short black woman with the

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Speaker 4: frizzy hair, who's always great entertainment, might like her quite

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Speaker 4: a lot, or does he like her?

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Speaker 23: Or well, she's I feel sorry for her that she's

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Speaker 23: going to go out there and come up with more

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Speaker 23: excuses exactly as to why the president perhaps isn't performing.

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Speaker 4: Every time, every time I watch her, I see her

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Speaker 4: when she's asked a question. First of all, she size

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Speaker 4: with her eyes, if you know what that they roll

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Speaker 4: around a bit and she takes a breath and then

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Speaker 4: away she goes. Anyway, they've been asking her about whether

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Speaker 4: people who are specialists in the condition the Parkinson's have

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Speaker 4: been coming to the White House to look at Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: and she decided to reply with Gusto.

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Speaker 17: We share a comprehensive reporting.

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Speaker 24: Matter of fact, it's more than what the last guy shared,

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Speaker 24: and it is in line with what George do, George W.

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Speaker 24: Bush did, It's in line with what Obama did, and

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Speaker 24: so it is comprehensive.

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Speaker 17: It is out there. I just read a quote from it.

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Speaker 24: But I am not I am not going to devolve

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Speaker 24: somebody's name or confirm someon I'm not going to do that.

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Speaker 17: That is as as a privacy for that person.

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Speaker 24: I'm not going to do that. It doesn't matter how

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Speaker 24: hard you push me, it doesn't matter how angry you

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Speaker 24: get with me from here.

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Speaker 17: I'm just not going to do that. It is inappropriate,

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Speaker 17: it is not acceptable. So I'm not going to do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she's going to do it, and I'm not,

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Speaker 4: and she won't. And it is eight twenty five. We've

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Speaker 4: got some British politics to come at in a moment,

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Speaker 4: Rod Little, you'll be pleased to know to not get

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Speaker 4: a job as an MP, which might have actually could

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Speaker 4: tell his ability to be our correspondent. But no, it

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have. No, I'm getting the I'm giving you the headshakes.

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Speaker 4: Rod can't resist. Rod wants to tell New Zealand where

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Speaker 4: it's at and what an interesting election it was in

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Speaker 4: the UK. And the most interesting part about it is

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Speaker 4: that the Labor Party did not win it at all.

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Speaker 4: The vote went up one to two percent after more

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Speaker 4: than what gravesy old Jeremy Corbyn got, so they got

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Speaker 4: no new people. But boy, the Conservatives lost. Everybody nobody

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Speaker 4: voted in this election, but they certainly did not vote

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Speaker 4: for the Conservatives. So the Conservatives have a rebuilt to

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Speaker 4: come on. So Rod little on the rebuild still to come.

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Speaker 4: We've got to rock and roll to play. It's been

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Speaker 4: very interesting rock and roll, Glenn. It's been stuff that's

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Speaker 4: a little bit off the radar.

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Speaker 8: But everybody can play be Mine tonight.

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Speaker 4: But but Odi Guinn can play this, which is well,

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Speaker 4: this is the dudes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, bet the singing the doors.

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Speaker 4: Well, did you enjoy this?

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Speaker 14: Dumb babe?

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Speaker 23: You know these God we.

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Speaker 3: Lumber one dumb.

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Speaker 4: Bab love.

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Speaker 1: Make news fold opinions.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on the mic, asking Breakfast with Alvida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: Life your Way news talk.

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Speaker 10: Said, b.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's twenty three to nine correspondents on the text

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Speaker 4: number one, can you please advite how much longer Andrew

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Speaker 4: Dickens is going to be on breakfast. I can tell

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Speaker 4: you until Monday. Mike is on holiday.

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Speaker 8: I was going to say about another twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Oh true, twenty three minutes I are today, and then

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Speaker 4: Mike is back on Monday. He's having one week's holiday

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Speaker 4: the first week of the year. He's a hard worker.

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Speaker 4: Text from Bill Andrew, Please tell that person to take

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Speaker 4: the horseplinkers off. It's never too early for rock and roll.

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Speaker 4: Text love me two times was great things my favorite

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Speaker 4: door song. Text you're spoiling Mike's show with that horrible music.

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Speaker 4: Some people's meat is another person's murder.

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Speaker 23: I mean that same person. Probably there's teachers in before

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Speaker 23: saying you're spoiling the show with too much Mike, So

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Speaker 23: you know.

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Speaker 4: Text hello, just checking off the competition for the Greenstone

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Speaker 4: Summer Concert as a spam. I've been told I'm a winner,

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Speaker 4: but they want card details with If you're a winner,

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Speaker 4: why do they need your card? Do not touch, do

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Speaker 4: not reply, and text while cringeing Jean Pierre of these skaters.

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Speaker 4: The White House Visitor Logue show the Parkinson Specialists visited

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Speaker 4: eight times in the last eight months, but you.

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Speaker 8: Know, which is probably how they know he doesn't have

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Speaker 8: Parkinson's SYS.

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Speaker 4: We want to say, yeah, maybe the text didn't say that,

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Speaker 4: but what I would say is that when I'm made it,

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Speaker 4: I'm probably going to have a visit every year as well,

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Speaker 4: just to see how things are going on.

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Speaker 5: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: It is twenty two to.

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Speaker 2: Nine international correspondence with Insieye Insurance Peace of Mind for

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 4: From the UK right little good morning, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, you've got a new government. Who saw that coming?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I think we all did. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 14: in many ways, it's a bizarre election in that Labor

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Speaker 14: has been elected with this massive maturity but with only

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Speaker 14: just under two percent, more than they can't when and

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Speaker 14: Jeremy Corbyn was the leader of the party. It's absolutely

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Speaker 14: clear that you know, within this country, nobody really wants

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Speaker 14: Labor or Tory to run the country. So they are

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Speaker 14: I think they know that. I think the Labor Party

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Speaker 14: knows that that they have a lot of willing over

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Speaker 14: to do before go into the next election five years

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Speaker 14: from now, because you know, the votes which went to

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Speaker 14: the smaller parties, the Green Party, Reform Party, the independents

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Speaker 14: or the Workers Party Clyde SNP were outweighed what was

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Speaker 14: voted for the two main parties. And this is a

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Speaker 14: problem with the electoral system. You know, first part of

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Speaker 14: the post is great if it's just two parties going

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Speaker 14: for it, but it doesn't work so well if there's

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Speaker 14: four or five going for it.

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Speaker 4: But we've got I meanp here. So it's great looking

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Speaker 4: at FPP and seeing oh, that's how it works, because

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Speaker 4: you know, the Labor Party did win Wales, and they

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Speaker 4: did win Scotland, and they did win England, and so

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Speaker 4: you realize that's why they won.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, well no indeed. But the remarkable thing is,

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Speaker 14: you know, the actual vote and the election, the turnout

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Speaker 14: was down massively and Labor only our thirty four percent vote,

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Speaker 14: which is the sort of figy you would expect a

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Speaker 14: party to lose with.

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Speaker 4: The general You're quite right though. The real story here

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Speaker 4: is not the Labor Party because they will just sit

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Speaker 4: there and go can we actually not make any mistakes

1511
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 4: for five year? Is the real question is is it

1512
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 4: possible for the Conservatives to rebuild because this is the

1513
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 4: worse there being.

1514
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 14: It's undoubtedly the biggest question at the moment. I mean,

1515
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 14: there is an awful lot of goodwill towards the new

1516
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,440
Speaker 14: Labor government. Let's not disguise that even in Tory supporting newspapers,

1517
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 14: there's some good will towards the idea that we've got

1518
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 14: out of this era of chaos which we had for

1519
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 14: the last four or five years under the Tories and

1520
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 14: got back to, as people keep putting it rather annoyingly,

1521
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 14: the grown ups are back in the room. Well maybe

1522
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 14: let's see, but yeah, one of the tours do now

1523
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 14: do they make an alliance with Nigel Farage on the

1524
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 14: populist side of the party, or do they try to

1525
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 14: retreat back into the kind of idea of a one

1526
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 14: nation Conservative party. And that's a very interesting question. And

1527
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 14: I've been talking to a lot of MPs over the

1528
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 14: last of forty eight hours and all of them are saying,

1529
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 14: we need a deal with Nigel Farage. We need to

1530
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 14: say to the Labor Party immigration is the problem. And

1531
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 14: Tony Blair has weighed in over the last day or

1532
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 14: two to say, yeah, immigration really is a problem. If

1533
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 14: Labor doesn't get immigration under control, then there will be

1534
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 14: a problem for the Labor government, which is rich coming

1535
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 14: from the man who effectively opened the doors to untanneled immigration,

1536
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 14: you know, twenty odd years ago.

1537
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 4: So on an interesting article the other day talking about

1538
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 4: European politics and how you know the difference between the

1539
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 4: right and the lift and the rise of the right,

1540
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 4: and how you define the right and the lift, you know,

1541
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 4: And in America it's very simple. It's immigrating. And it's

1542
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 4: only now that Europe and now England learning immigration is

1543
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 4: the great divider between right and lift.

1544
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 14: Yes, and it shouldn't be. It really shouldn't be. You see,

1545
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 14: I always consider myself on the left. Many people over

1546
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 14: here will consider me on the right. But I argued

1547
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 14: for ages that immigration was the thing which held down

1548
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 14: wages for the working class people of this country. And

1549
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 14: that's kind of the same argument which is playing out

1550
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 14: across Europe, plays out very much in American politics, in

1551
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 14: which Trump tapped into so very ably back in twenty sixteen.

1552
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 14: But immigration is the key issue. And I don't think

1553
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 14: at the moment that the Labor Party has any idea

1554
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 14: as to what to do about the levels of immigration into.

1555
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 4: Outcoming And oh dear, what will Rishie do next? Who cares?

1556
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 4: Who will be the next Rishi?

1557
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 14: Probably Kenny Badanock, which means that the Conservative Party tilts

1558
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 14: to the right and will probably be called by the

1559
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 14: BBC Far Right. If she can do some sort of

1560
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 14: deal with reform, then there is a sort of fairly

1561
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 14: fairly cogent response from the right to this government, because

1562
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 14: over again you have to keep saying it, this labor government,

1563
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 14: and I don't blame them for playing this down, and

1564
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 14: I think they deserve their term in government. Was elected

1565
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 14: by thirty four percent of the country, which is a

1566
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 14: terribly terribly low amount.

1567
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Now, good luck for the semi final tomorrow.

1568
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 14: Cheers mate, Yeah, we're all going to be hiding behind

1569
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 14: our sofas, gnawing our fingernails down and eating really really

1570
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 14: bad food. So yeah, thanks, we could do with your support.

1571
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, no problem, No problem in the Netherlands as

1572
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 4: it's not tomorrow's the day after. But anyway, Rod Little,

1573
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 4: I thank you so much. Tomorrow's Spain, France. Spain's going

1574
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 4: to win the whole thing. Spain is by far the

1575
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 4: best side there. Spain is beautiful, and Buppy is playing

1576
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 4: for France. He's got a mask on. He looks like

1577
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 4: he's straight out of a Marvel movie. England Netherland Thursday morning,

1578
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 4: There we go sixteen, but it's two nine news Talks.

1579
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: It b the mic hosting breakfast.

1580
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 4: It is at thirteen to nine. I could talk about

1581
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 4: the big debate in New Plymouth about a mother who's

1582
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 4: trying to ban g string bikinis, but I think the

1583
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 4: program has been far too light over the past hour anyway.

1584
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 4: But well, actually I'm going to talk about TV because

1585
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 4: I've not watched as much news on television as I

1586
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: have over the past week, on TV three in particular,

1587
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 4: and this is because News Hub shuffled off our screens

1588
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 4: on Friday and a flood of tears and a fairly

1589
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 4: brutal end of broadcast. I'm like, I don't know if

1590
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 4: you've seen some of the TV and Z farewells, you

1591
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 4: know where someone goes and they stand up and then

1592
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 4: they walk off, and then they walk through the corridor

1593
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 4: and everyone's in there going oh yes, and there's clapping

1594
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 4: and all that sort of thing, and the cameras followed

1595
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 4: them out. Not a news Hub. They said good night,

1596
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: and then the guys who do the mixing just slammed

1597
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 4: on Lego Masters bam.

1598
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 8: Yeah. Well they had to pick that stuff up and

1599
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 8: get it on trade me presumably.

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01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 4: And the way Lego Masters came in so hard on

1601
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 4: the news without all the tawdry and mortal and sort

1602
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 4: of stuff was a sign of the channel's new priorities.

1603
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 4: So hello, there we go. Anyway, then I sat down

1604
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 4: on Saturday and watched the Warriors in the all backs

1605
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,959
Speaker 4: andym between. I had another crack at listening to Stuff's

1606
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 4: first try at broadcast news, and many others did because

1607
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: the ratings were up huge, they were up eighty percent,

1608
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 4: because everyone went and wanted to say, what's going to

1609
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 4: happen next? Is this going to be any good? Is

1610
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 4: it going to be a work fest? There's some people

1611
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 4: say about Stuff. Is it going to be a stuff up?

1612
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 4: You know, because they run papers.

1613
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: Whatever.

1614
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 4: Anyway, I looked at it and it was news. It

1615
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 4: was fine. Nine of two post was a good reader,

1616
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 4: she screamed through the news. The set was a desk

1617
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 4: in an office. Instead of the big, huge TV screens

1618
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 4: that broadcasts have thought were necessary on news sets for

1619
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 4: the past twenty years, there was an artfully played sixty

1620
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 4: five inch telly. The whole thing was over in half

1621
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 4: an hour, and I was satisfied. The money was spent

1622
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 4: all the news, not the sizzle. I didn't need two readers.

1623
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 4: I didn't need all the bells and whistles. I didn't

1624
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 4: need a whole hour of news, that's for sure. I mean,

1625
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 4: we're New Zealand's five and a half million here. So

1626
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 4: then I watched last night and maybe this might be

1627
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 4: the end of my three news addiction. A big screen

1628
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 4: was back. Hey, you don't need the big screen. Sam

1629
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 4: Hayes was back. She was standing in front of it.

1630
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 4: We got to see the big stories of the day.

1631
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 4: It was back to being an hour. I did not

1632
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 4: stay with it. There are a couple of stories I've

1633
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 4: run in the past three days which have been a

1634
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 4: bit strange. One was on Chantelle Baker being the victim

1635
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 4: of a road rage incident, which was lacking a balancing

1636
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 4: point of view. It was all provided by Chantell. It

1637
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 4: seemed a little questionable. It's not a story I think

1638
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 4: would have made it onto news Hub. There was another

1639
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 4: story last night about Black Power educating its men and

1640
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 4: hanging on to their patches, and that seemed like a

1641
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 4: newspaper feature edited down to fit a daily news bulletin.

1642
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 4: So it's different. But what I came to realize is

1643
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 4: that I already know the news. The radio and the

1644
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 4: internet tell me the stories during the day, zip B

1645
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 4: tells me the stories. What Telly gives me at the

1646
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 4: end of the day is some pictures of the stories

1647
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 4: I wanted to see. Lu Lucien Win, I saw them

1648
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 4: on the TV news. That's what Telly is about, Terrestrial Telly.

1649
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 4: The brutal reality of the news hub collapse is not

1650
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 4: some story of Go Go broke. It was a story

1651
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 4: of a Ferrari news show and Ferrari salaries when you

1652
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 4: can't afford them, because, by the way, retail times right

1653
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: now are tough, and how does Telly and radio make

1654
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 4: the news survival within budgets is exactly what stuff gave

1655
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 4: us over the course of the weekend. Not so sure

1656
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 4: about last night nine to nine.

1657
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on them My costing breakforsds with Jaguar.

1658
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 4: US twice the text ninety two ninety two, I feel

1659
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 4: like called Andrew says one hundred percent agree Andrew that

1660
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 4: black power story last night should be followed up tonight.

1661
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 4: By the views of the officers who deal with the gangs,

1662
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 4: he was just one gang member. What was interesting about

1663
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 4: that story is that he was talking about how gang

1664
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 4: members will not be defined by their patches anymore, that

1665
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 4: they will wear suits and tires and you won't be

1666
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 4: able to determine who they were. Luckily, this guy had

1667
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 4: a big old nockle here, big tattoos all over his face,

1668
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 4: so he's easily identifiable. But he got himself a degree,

1669
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,560
Speaker 4: and there was pictures of him receiving the degree. He

1670
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 4: was well spoken. There was a big old black power

1671
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 4: huker at his degree presentation, and there was dear old

1672
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 4: Onion sacher nand who was sitting there while this is

1673
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: all going on, just looking around, going what the hell's

1674
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 4: have me here?

1675
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 8: Anyway?

1676
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 4: Be interesting to see how they deal with that story today,

1677
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 4: and Andrew, I agree about the news. I've looked at

1678
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 4: the TV guide. I've seen that it's the same old,

1679
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 4: same old all over again, so I won't be watching

1680
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 4: TV three again. And someone else says totally agree. I

1681
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 4: like a half hour version. I didn't stay to the

1682
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 4: end either, so it'll be on again tonight. It is

1683
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: six minutes to.

1684
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Nine trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all

1685
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: year round.

1686
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 4: Now, we could fill up a whole show full of

1687
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 4: interesting things he says with little air quotation backs interesting

1688
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: things that Trump supporters say. And before you go get

1689
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 4: to upset, yes, there are whole heaps of crazy stuff

1690
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 4: Biden supporters say. And so I'm not sitting here saying

1691
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 4: one is better than the other. I'm just wanting to

1692
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 4: highlight some interesting things said by some very fervent and

1693
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 4: manic supporters. And these people have gone viral after Jordan

1694
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 4: Klipper attended the latest Trump rally. Old Trumps president right now,

1695
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 4: he's currently the president.

1696
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: Aboutely, he is still president.

1697
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 21: There's a lot of things that this Biden person does

1698
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 21: not have, like the presidential steal and things like that

1699
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:05,879
Speaker 21: that they're pretty obvious.

1700
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 25: Biden doesn't have the presidential seal. When he speaks, there's

1701
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 25: a presidential steal in front of him.

1702
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 4: It's not real.

1703
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: What is he doing as president? He is in charge

1704
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: of the military.

1705
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 4: Great, the military is in charge of this whole thing.

1706
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 21: The military would put in charge. In twenty eighteen, when

1707
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 21: President Trump signed an executive order.

1708
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 25: The American military arms that are going to Ukraine. We

1709
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 25: have Donald Trump to think for that.

1710
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 4: No, that's.

1711
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: There's two there's two militaries. There's the good and the bad.

1712
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: So there's two militaries.

1713
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 25: Donald Trump's in charge of the good one. Yes, Biden's

1714
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 25: in charge of the bad military.

1715
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Good to know. I've been wondering.

1716
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 23: See, sometimes you can to reach out to the people

1717
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 23: so they can explain things in terms that we can

1718
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 23: all understand, you know, like like like regular people.

1719
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 4: How are you saying she lied to you?

1720
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 19: Yes?

1721
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you reckon? She said the review in

1722
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 4: regular people's terms. Yeh, regular people's terms.

1723
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Speaker 1: Year.

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Speaker 18: So people's terms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, I thought that's what she said at

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Speaker 4: the time, but you know, as in the moment, but

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Speaker 4: thankfully Glenn has played it to us again and again

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Speaker 4: and again.

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Speaker 5: People's terms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in regular people's terms. Yes, Darlie Tana is a liar,

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Speaker 4: according to Chloe Swarbrigg, and it would be nice if

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Speaker 4: right from the start she used that three letter word

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Speaker 4: instead of forth writing all over the place. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 4: for your company.

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