1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talk z EDB. 3 00:00:13,133 --> 00:00:16,533 Speaker 2: Seventeen minutes past nine on News Talks EDB, Aaron has 4 00:00:16,533 --> 00:00:19,453 Speaker 2: flipped me a note to say, Jack, I totally agree 5 00:00:19,493 --> 00:00:22,933 Speaker 2: with you. I binged all four episodes of Adolescents in 6 00:00:23,013 --> 00:00:26,293 Speaker 2: one night and couldn't stop talking about it for days thereafter. 7 00:00:27,093 --> 00:00:30,693 Speaker 2: Thanks Aaron. Yeah, it's funny. I see in the UK 8 00:00:30,813 --> 00:00:34,093 Speaker 2: now they're actually talking about even Kirstaff and the Prime 9 00:00:34,093 --> 00:00:36,813 Speaker 2: Minister has lent support to us. They're talking about screening 10 00:00:36,853 --> 00:00:39,573 Speaker 2: it in all schools is a kind of educational thing 11 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:42,093 Speaker 2: because you know, it's about knife crime, it's about a 12 00:00:42,093 --> 00:00:44,733 Speaker 2: stabbing incident, and obviously they have a big problem with 13 00:00:44,773 --> 00:00:46,213 Speaker 2: that kind of thing in the UK at the moment. 14 00:00:46,253 --> 00:00:50,133 Speaker 2: But yeah, Aaron was affected, like I am, Jack, really 15 00:00:50,213 --> 00:00:52,173 Speaker 2: looking forward to watching a lesson. Of course, it was 16 00:00:52,213 --> 00:00:54,413 Speaker 2: recommended in our screen time segment just a couple of 17 00:00:54,413 --> 00:00:56,333 Speaker 2: weeks ago on News Talks ZEDB. So we'll catch up 18 00:00:56,373 --> 00:00:58,893 Speaker 2: with our screen time expert Tara ten and see what 19 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:01,213 Speaker 2: the next adolescence is going to be. Right now, they're 20 00:01:01,213 --> 00:01:02,933 Speaker 2: time to catch up with Kevin Meln he's with us 21 00:01:02,933 --> 00:01:06,173 Speaker 2: this morning. More Dian Kevin, what Jack, have you seen 22 00:01:06,453 --> 00:01:07,453 Speaker 2: this is yet? No? 23 00:01:07,613 --> 00:01:09,773 Speaker 3: I haven't. Actually, I'm sort of I'm one of those 24 00:01:09,773 --> 00:01:12,573 Speaker 3: people who always who thinks they're up with the play 25 00:01:13,053 --> 00:01:15,893 Speaker 3: and then somebody else says they're watching. They're right on 26 00:01:16,093 --> 00:01:20,213 Speaker 3: past that, because like I'm working my way through. 27 00:01:20,973 --> 00:01:24,173 Speaker 2: Right, okay, but yeah, you're not to play given, I'm 28 00:01:24,173 --> 00:01:26,933 Speaker 2: sorry if you're working even I was two years late 29 00:01:26,973 --> 00:01:28,893 Speaker 2: to teed Less, So if you're working through ted Less 30 00:01:28,933 --> 00:01:31,333 Speaker 2: so now then I'm afraid that we can probably safely 31 00:01:31,373 --> 00:01:32,453 Speaker 2: say you're not up with a play. 32 00:01:33,133 --> 00:01:36,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I realized that. No, I 33 00:01:36,933 --> 00:01:40,173 Speaker 3: will now you've said it, I will have a little squiz. 34 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:41,733 Speaker 3: It's stunning Ado Lessons. 35 00:01:41,973 --> 00:01:45,613 Speaker 2: It is just it is. Yeah, I'm not I'm not 36 00:01:45,693 --> 00:01:49,213 Speaker 2: hamming it up one iota, and I cannot remember being 37 00:01:49,253 --> 00:01:51,493 Speaker 2: as moved by a TV show, certainly in recent years. 38 00:01:51,493 --> 00:01:54,053 Speaker 2: So if you have a chance, it's only four episodes 39 00:01:54,053 --> 00:01:56,013 Speaker 2: and they're only about forty five minutes or an hour each, 40 00:01:56,173 --> 00:01:59,493 Speaker 2: so very much. It's on Netflix. 41 00:01:59,613 --> 00:02:00,253 Speaker 3: What is it? 42 00:02:00,253 --> 00:02:03,413 Speaker 2: It's on Netflix, But you need to I'll tell you this. 43 00:02:03,533 --> 00:02:06,613 Speaker 2: Here's my recommendation. If you're going to watch it, make 44 00:02:06,653 --> 00:02:08,893 Speaker 2: sure you save half an hour afterwards. Don't do it 45 00:02:08,893 --> 00:02:10,893 Speaker 2: as the very last thing you do before you go 46 00:02:10,933 --> 00:02:14,613 Speaker 2: to sleep. No, because I honestly, if you can go 47 00:02:14,653 --> 00:02:16,613 Speaker 2: and read a book or something afterwards, just to take 48 00:02:16,653 --> 00:02:18,653 Speaker 2: your mind off it for a bit, not because it's 49 00:02:19,533 --> 00:02:21,813 Speaker 2: you know, a horror or anything like that and really 50 00:02:22,053 --> 00:02:25,293 Speaker 2: really gory or graphic, just because it's really affecting and 51 00:02:25,333 --> 00:02:27,213 Speaker 2: you were sitting there like I was just kind of stewing, 52 00:02:27,293 --> 00:02:31,933 Speaker 2: you know. Anyway, speaking of a lessons, your daughter is 53 00:02:31,933 --> 00:02:33,093 Speaker 2: looking at buying a new car. 54 00:02:34,013 --> 00:02:37,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been looking for a little hatchback for Tommy. 55 00:02:38,373 --> 00:02:40,853 Speaker 3: Of course, in the back of my mind are those 56 00:02:40,933 --> 00:02:44,333 Speaker 3: dramatic ads on TV about the safety ratings on cars. 57 00:02:44,853 --> 00:02:47,053 Speaker 3: My brother was killed in a car crash when he 58 00:02:47,213 --> 00:02:49,813 Speaker 3: was exactly the same age as Tommy. So I didn't 59 00:02:49,853 --> 00:02:53,053 Speaker 3: want to buy an unsafe car. My wife said, only 60 00:02:53,133 --> 00:02:55,613 Speaker 3: buying the car up to you, but it must have 61 00:02:55,893 --> 00:02:59,493 Speaker 3: a good safety rating. I was looking at hatchbacks around 62 00:02:59,533 --> 00:03:02,253 Speaker 3: the ten thousand dollars mark, and the dealer I know 63 00:03:02,373 --> 00:03:07,013 Speaker 3: put me onto a twenty eleven Suzuki Swift Imple for 64 00:03:07,133 --> 00:03:10,853 Speaker 3: eight grand I remembered for a small car that Suzuki 65 00:03:10,893 --> 00:03:14,293 Speaker 3: Swifts had a pretty good reputation for safety. I was 66 00:03:14,333 --> 00:03:16,613 Speaker 3: about to buy it, but when I put the cars 67 00:03:16,653 --> 00:03:21,293 Speaker 3: regio into the government's safety ratings Right Cars, the car 68 00:03:21,373 --> 00:03:24,973 Speaker 3: got just three stars out of five for general safety, 69 00:03:25,133 --> 00:03:29,053 Speaker 3: which was considered marginal, and just one star out of 70 00:03:29,133 --> 00:03:34,573 Speaker 3: five for driver safety driver safety meaning very poor. This 71 00:03:34,733 --> 00:03:39,053 Speaker 3: surprised me. I went online and found the Automobile Association's 72 00:03:39,093 --> 00:03:43,173 Speaker 3: review of the twenty eleven Suzuki Swift when it was 73 00:03:43,253 --> 00:03:47,493 Speaker 3: published when the car came into the country. It said fun, 74 00:03:48,253 --> 00:03:52,573 Speaker 3: safe and affordable. The two thy and eleven Suzuki Swift 75 00:03:52,973 --> 00:03:58,013 Speaker 3: notably exceeded the thresholds for a coveted five star Euro 76 00:03:58,373 --> 00:04:02,133 Speaker 3: end cap safety rating. So how come, I asked myself, 77 00:04:02,413 --> 00:04:06,973 Speaker 3: According to the same ratings, it's so unsafe now, But 78 00:04:07,053 --> 00:04:09,813 Speaker 3: I thought for my daughter's sake, I'd take no risks 79 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:13,573 Speaker 3: from buy a newer car. For eleven thousand, I found 80 00:04:13,613 --> 00:04:17,693 Speaker 3: a great little two thousand and fifty Suzuki Swift, New Zealand, 81 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:22,373 Speaker 3: new new tires, seven air bags, Bluetooth, et cetera. Again, 82 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:26,173 Speaker 3: I checked at safety ratings. It was the same as 83 00:04:26,213 --> 00:04:30,453 Speaker 3: the two thousand and eleven car. Marginal for general safety, 84 00:04:31,053 --> 00:04:35,373 Speaker 3: very poor for driver safety, and I'm thinking what's going on. 85 00:04:35,733 --> 00:04:39,373 Speaker 3: Eleven grands a lot of money for kids first car. 86 00:04:39,973 --> 00:04:43,333 Speaker 3: It's what a lot of parents spend on their own cars. 87 00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:47,773 Speaker 3: I'm told by the dealers that has more safety innovations 88 00:04:47,813 --> 00:04:50,773 Speaker 3: come out in brand new cars, the safety ratings for 89 00:04:50,893 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 3: older models drop and drop. It's not like those older 90 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:58,013 Speaker 3: cars are getting any less safe. It's about how they 91 00:04:58,093 --> 00:05:03,013 Speaker 3: measure against brand new cars on the market with innovations 92 00:05:03,133 --> 00:05:07,853 Speaker 3: like bicycle detectors that we're getting this year. If this 93 00:05:07,893 --> 00:05:11,053 Speaker 3: is so, I reckon that the safety ratings are a 94 00:05:11,053 --> 00:05:14,213 Speaker 3: bit misleading. Ten year old cars that have been looked 95 00:05:14,293 --> 00:05:18,693 Speaker 3: after are, in my opinion, not unsafe. They're just less 96 00:05:18,733 --> 00:05:21,893 Speaker 3: safe than new cars. People shouldn't be put off buying them. 97 00:05:22,213 --> 00:05:25,253 Speaker 3: There's a world of difference between the ten year old 98 00:05:25,293 --> 00:05:29,173 Speaker 3: car I've now found from a daughter and the ridiculous 99 00:05:29,253 --> 00:05:32,333 Speaker 3: cardboard car featured in the safety ratings. AD. 100 00:05:33,693 --> 00:05:37,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really really interesting point and something I've 101 00:05:37,293 --> 00:05:42,733 Speaker 2: experienced recently too, because we upgraded from the single car 102 00:05:42,813 --> 00:05:45,253 Speaker 2: we have, which is a Toyota Corolla Hatchback, and we 103 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:50,813 Speaker 2: bought a new, well a newer, still secondhand Toyota Corolla Hatchback, 104 00:05:51,213 --> 00:05:54,933 Speaker 2: but yes, very very glamorous. But here's the thing. We 105 00:05:55,013 --> 00:05:58,453 Speaker 2: had a five star end cap rating. But I realized, 106 00:05:58,693 --> 00:06:00,733 Speaker 2: and the good thing was that the newer car did 107 00:06:00,733 --> 00:06:03,213 Speaker 2: have more earbags and that kind of thing. But I 108 00:06:03,293 --> 00:06:05,413 Speaker 2: realized that that some of the reason it had the 109 00:06:06,133 --> 00:06:09,013 Speaker 2: new or had had the full safety rating was because 110 00:06:09,053 --> 00:06:11,693 Speaker 2: it has things like lane departure warning, so it beeps 111 00:06:11,693 --> 00:06:13,453 Speaker 2: at you it's going to lane departure. It has like 112 00:06:13,493 --> 00:06:15,973 Speaker 2: an automatic break function if you're getting close to things, 113 00:06:16,013 --> 00:06:18,013 Speaker 2: and it has lots of things that beep at you. 114 00:06:18,333 --> 00:06:21,373 Speaker 2: But of course, after driving it for a month, we 115 00:06:21,413 --> 00:06:23,653 Speaker 2: actually found that some of those things that were beeping 116 00:06:23,693 --> 00:06:27,693 Speaker 2: at us actually probably made us less safe, because you know, 117 00:06:27,773 --> 00:06:29,373 Speaker 2: like if you're just going around a car in the 118 00:06:29,373 --> 00:06:31,573 Speaker 2: middle of the road that's turning or something, and all 119 00:06:31,613 --> 00:06:33,933 Speaker 2: of a sudden, the car kind of lurches and screams 120 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:35,813 Speaker 2: at you when you're not expecting it, it can be 121 00:06:35,893 --> 00:06:38,813 Speaker 2: quite unsettling. So I ended up actually turning off some 122 00:06:38,893 --> 00:06:42,093 Speaker 2: of those safety I measures, Yeah, go into the system 123 00:06:42,133 --> 00:06:43,773 Speaker 2: and turn it off in order to make us safer. 124 00:06:43,733 --> 00:06:45,933 Speaker 2: And it was like, ah, I think we might be 125 00:06:45,973 --> 00:06:47,853 Speaker 2: prioritizing the wrong thing here, you know. 126 00:06:48,653 --> 00:06:51,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting thing I just think, Yeah, I just 127 00:06:51,813 --> 00:06:55,173 Speaker 3: think there's a better way of explaining what those safety 128 00:06:55,253 --> 00:06:58,333 Speaker 3: ratings are. It doesn't mean to say in my opinion, 129 00:06:58,893 --> 00:07:02,333 Speaker 3: and I don't I'm no expert, obviously. Yeah, in my opinion, 130 00:07:02,533 --> 00:07:04,853 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean to say you're not safe. It means 131 00:07:04,893 --> 00:07:08,733 Speaker 3: that newer cars had have greater safety. Yeah, but of 132 00:07:08,733 --> 00:07:11,493 Speaker 3: course you can't afford those cars, so you have to 133 00:07:11,533 --> 00:07:14,813 Speaker 3: buy the older car, particularly if you're buying the family members. 134 00:07:14,973 --> 00:07:15,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 135 00:07:15,893 --> 00:07:17,613 Speaker 3: I mean you can't afford to buy new cats of 136 00:07:17,613 --> 00:07:21,133 Speaker 3: the old family. You can't afford to buy it for yourself. 137 00:07:21,453 --> 00:07:23,813 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean the other the other thing I 138 00:07:23,813 --> 00:07:27,093 Speaker 2: think about too, is that, you know, is the safety 139 00:07:27,133 --> 00:07:29,613 Speaker 2: of other people. So so you know, of course there's 140 00:07:29,933 --> 00:07:31,733 Speaker 2: you as the driver want to be safe and you 141 00:07:31,773 --> 00:07:33,533 Speaker 2: want your passengers to be safe. But you know, I 142 00:07:33,573 --> 00:07:36,373 Speaker 2: look at some of the monstrously large vehicles around the 143 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:38,693 Speaker 2: place and I'm like, man, this is not making pedestrians 144 00:07:38,693 --> 00:07:39,333 Speaker 2: any safer. 145 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:42,533 Speaker 3: No, hell yeah, yeah, no, anyway, that's right. 146 00:07:42,973 --> 00:07:45,453 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for that, Kevin. That's really interesting. And yeah, 147 00:07:45,493 --> 00:07:49,893 Speaker 2: I hope that Tommy appreciates your your expertise on on 148 00:07:49,933 --> 00:07:53,213 Speaker 2: that front. Thank you for your feedback as well. Jack 149 00:07:53,533 --> 00:07:56,973 Speaker 2: really enjoyed Kevin's comments this morning. He's totally right regarding 150 00:07:57,013 --> 00:07:59,653 Speaker 2: the safety ratings. It's a funny old thing. Ninety two 151 00:07:59,733 --> 00:08:01,173 Speaker 2: ninety two. 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