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Speaker 1: Flag or two we got this morning on the egg

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Speaker 1: sector over red tape. So you remember Kevin had approved

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Speaker 1: a review back in February over red tape. They argued

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Speaker 1: that there was about a quarter billion dollar benefit by

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Speaker 1: cutting red tape making things more efficient. However, new survey

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Speaker 1: of this morning shows virtually half forty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: businesses so regulatory performance has worsened. Nothing's changed. Doctor Liz Sheckleton,

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Speaker 1: as the chief Executive for Animal and Plant Health New

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Speaker 1: Zealand enders with us lost morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, great to be back on the show.

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Speaker 1: So what has happened here? Are the new rules in

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Speaker 1: place and they don't work? Or are we still waiting

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Speaker 1: for the new rules to arrive?

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Speaker 2: So basically, Mike, as you said, back in February, Ministry

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Speaker 2: for Regulation did a review, led out recommendations to cott

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Speaker 2: red tape to get new tools into farmers' hands. Now,

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Speaker 2: industry support the ministers for this review. They laid out

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Speaker 2: a clear role map. They're committed to deliver change and

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Speaker 2: legislative reform, which we're expecting in the next few months.

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Speaker 2: That's long over due, but that will take time and meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: farmer need new tools. Now nine months on moment of

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Speaker 2: truth here on the ground, farmers and companies that develop

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Speaker 2: and make these products say there's no change and can

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Speaker 2: share a little bit more about what we're hearing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, regulatory performance has worsened for the Agricultural Compounds and

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Speaker 1: Victory Medicines Group of the Ministry of Primary Industries. How's

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Speaker 1: it possible it's got worse.

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Speaker 2: So a survey from our members, so these are four

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Speaker 2: contexts for the audience to people that have the applications

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Speaker 2: actually in the queue for the new tools, found that

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Speaker 2: not a single company surveyed reports improvement with red tape.

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Speaker 2: And as you've said, many said it's getting worse. Look.

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Speaker 2: While it's encouraging, Mike, we're hearing promises about legislative change

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Speaker 2: and agreement to work with other regulators like a trans

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Speaker 2: TASMINMOU that was signed this week, the reality for our

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Speaker 2: companies on the ground is actions needed now to see results.

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Speaker 2: And back in October we launched a blueprint for change

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Speaker 2: that looks at three actions that can be tangibly taken

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Speaker 2: right now. They are three things. One approve the tools

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Speaker 2: that matter the most for farmers, So that's the new

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Speaker 2: stuff that works in a new way. New actives and

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Speaker 2: new label uses. We're hearing the cues being cleared, but

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Speaker 2: is it the new tools or just more of the

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Speaker 2: same old stuff. Two shrink lower priority work. Three using

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Speaker 2: over sales tools and data that regulators overseas are using.

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Speaker 2: And three it's that meaningful engagement with industry, including progressing

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Speaker 2: this omnibus bill, Mike, because the bottom line is our

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Speaker 2: farmers and growers face are after challenges. They don't have

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Speaker 2: the right tools for the job. It's a real handbrick

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Speaker 2: on economic growth and we're missing out on better environmental outcomes.

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Speaker 2: And look, I can give you two examples in the

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Speaker 2: primary sector if you're interested in Look, let's look at

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Speaker 2: wine and hot chips. Australian Us Canadian wine growers have

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Speaker 2: had a new insect aside for meleiebug. That's a pest

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Speaker 2: in grapes that they've been using and for market access

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Speaker 2: raisings for many years. The company that makes that product

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Speaker 2: first came to New Zealand regulators back in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: to approve it. Still in the queue hot chips, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Vegetable growers, they need new tools for potatoes, onions, other crops,

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Speaker 2: things like blight and little insects called trips. I mean

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Speaker 2: not even the humble hot ship is safe here. Many

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Speaker 2: of these solutions are already trusted and in use overseas.

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Speaker 2: The longer New Zealand delays, the further we fall behind.

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Speaker 2: So the bottom line with the review is we're looking

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Speaker 2: to see action and results will speak louder than word.

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Speaker 1: Well. I wish you the best with it and will

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Speaker 1: stay on top of it. Liz, I'm disappointed to hear it, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: but she did go down the wine and hot chips,

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Speaker 1: and even though it is early, yes, please For more

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