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Speaker 1: Okay, mm hmm, I can't patch when you're ready? Pach

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Speaker 1: sweenty mini, pitch this guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why is texting though.

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: When you have bitches?

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Speaker 3: And like?

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Speaker 2: Casey ye.

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Speaker 3: Games. It is the twenty sixth of July twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Welcome all ebsy bodokies to the Mettingery Daily Bespoke Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We've got a good one planned for you.

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Speaker 3: Today, bigger part Pumpkin Pie, Pumpkin Pie Friday.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, where did that come from? I mean, where did that?

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Speaker 1: Where did those belches yesterday come from? Of how I

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Speaker 1: would say it's one of those things where do bops

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Speaker 1: come from? Burps? Burps come from? A good question? Do

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Speaker 1: they come from his stomach?

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Speaker 1: They feel like they come from the throat.

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Speaker 3: They must belch that Like, so, what is a bit

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Speaker 1: It's a gas coming up?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Is that worse as a really stinky burp? Worse than

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Speaker 3: a really stinky bottom bit?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about what's going No, a stinky

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Speaker 1: about what is going on inside your body? In your guards?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about the disgusting, the churning you're

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Speaker 1: chucking this this organic matter down through your this hole

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Speaker 1: turns it into energy. Yeah, and then and then there's

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Speaker 1: these pipes and then it shits out the bottom of you.

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Speaker 1: It's like, we are fucking disgusting.

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Speaker 3: We're like we are as we are revolting, like we

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Speaker 3: are disgusting. I've talked about this before. If aliens came

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Speaker 3: kind of we're seventy something percent water with just these

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Speaker 3: big dribbling sacks of tumultuous water just blobbing around every

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Speaker 3: To us, we look like hard and solid, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we're attracted to other human beings. But if you start

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Speaker 3: to think about it, we're just digesting food and we're

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Speaker 1: But if you think about it, we're just the stomach

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Speaker 3: We're a stomach on legs, and the stomach is just

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Speaker 1: So we're evolved.

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Speaker 3: To walk around and do everything we can to get

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Speaker 3: if you read The Selfish Gene by Richardawkins, I mean,

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Speaker 3: we're just gene machines. We don't even really matter in

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Speaker 3: and then the genes it's over time. It's the genes.

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Speaker 1: But then but then the the engine. It's not the engine,

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Speaker 3: Everything's about just keeping this machine, the gene machine, us

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Speaker 3: That we're that we're we're so weird because we evolved

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Speaker 1: And gas, right, you know, you know that that.

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Speaker 3: We're almost like if you were an alien and saw us,

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Speaker 1: It's freaking freaky. What about the smell of oxygen, It

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Speaker 1: Yes, some dogs, dogs can. Dog's sense of smell is

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Speaker 3: A dog on a walk is seeing a totally different

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Speaker 3: But you don't know exactly. But a dog sniffs where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the walk for a dog, even a walk over

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Speaker 3: You're in your house, your dog is completely and utterly

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Speaker 3: Imagine if you could have that sense of smell. Well,

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Speaker 3: I should be able to smell what you guys are thinking.

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Speaker 3: That's how we used to operate.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, Yeah, I can smell what you're thinking. What my thing? Oh,

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think the desire is still

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Speaker 3: Another way some people will go gay.

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Speaker 3: You there's some advantage and not everyone just going hammer

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: We're one hundred percent obsessed with sex downstairs focused.

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Speaker 4: MPP is not there, Winston Peters is not involved. MPPs

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Speaker 1: That's our un that's the MPP. Plus is the end

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think you just open your mind here for

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Speaker 3: bad things happen to you and then you manifest it

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Speaker 3: on other people.

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Speaker 1: It's a very strange thing. Well, I think as well.

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Speaker 1: You say, are you born attracted to a particular type

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Speaker 1: of human? Okay, you ask yourself that question. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you are born attracted to a particular type

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Speaker 1: of human, I don't know. I think it's a very

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Speaker 1: complex thing that's going on in your brain when it

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Speaker 1: comes to sexual desire. But they think as well, particularly

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Speaker 1: with men, and men are generally pedophiles.

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Speaker 3: No, pedophiles are generally men. Sorry, have a much better

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Speaker 3: way to.

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Speaker 1: A very good point. Thanks for clearing that up. I say,

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Speaker 1: there's no pedophiles in this room, and we're all men,

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Speaker 1: so generally are men. So in that situation, how much

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Speaker 1: of it has to do with experiences that you've had,

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Speaker 1: Because they do think now that men particularly imprinted by

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Speaker 1: their first sexual experiences quite rightly like birds. So those

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Speaker 1: first couple of sexual experiences you have an overwhelming effect

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Speaker 1: on what your desires and what your tastes end up

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Speaker 1: being as a man.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, it doesn't matter because once you've

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Speaker 3: committed the crime, you have to do the time. Otherwise,

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Speaker 3: what's crime and punishment. Punishment has to be to correct

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Speaker 3: things for society and to make people know if they

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Speaker 3: act on those impulses that the world will collapse around them.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going there with whatever causes you to commit

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Speaker 3: a crime, that doesn't matter that. The punishment isn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 1: It's about trying to correct society as a whole. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going back to that point of desire and

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Speaker 1: where your desire comes from. Yeah, yeah, And so does

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Speaker 1: that desire come from when you were born?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: If you are born with something, then that is not

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Speaker 1: your fault. We've decided in society that however you are born,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are born, you haven't created that. Well, hang

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Speaker 1: on what you For example.

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Speaker 3: What if you're born with a desire to kill other

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Speaker 3: human beings?

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Speaker 1: Are la serial killers.

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Speaker 3: Or or just born really really cruel?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: And there some people are or made cruel. We don't

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Speaker 3: let them off the hot. Well, how do we know

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Speaker 3: that they're born that way? We don't know that they're

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Speaker 3: born that way. You wouldn't say that anyone's really born

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Speaker 3: that way. There probably are a couple of people who

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Speaker 3: are born that way, but it's hard to tell.

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Speaker 1: Hard to do. Nature nature very hard, and like this

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Speaker 1: is a hard thing to tell as well. But I

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Speaker 1: think if you said to yourself, well, if this person

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Speaker 1: had these desires and it was no fault of their own,

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Speaker 1: they just had those desires, just like you have your desires, rude,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have your desires and this, and they

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Speaker 1: are normal to you, and these other desires were normal

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Speaker 1: to this other person. And then they never acted on

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Speaker 1: any of those things because they knew that those desires

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Speaker 1: were wrong. They knew those desires would harm people. They

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Speaker 1: knew that they would do a lot of bad and

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Speaker 1: so they never did anything about that. You couldn't say

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Speaker 1: that that person.

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Speaker 3: As opposed to the other thing. We have people that

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Speaker 3: have those desires and then take jobs and institutions and

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Speaker 3: schools and take up things where there are around kids

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Speaker 3: so they can act on those desires. I mean, those

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Speaker 3: people are terrible.

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Speaker 4: But there's also because you talk about impulse and you

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Speaker 4: talk about mpost control and yes, I'm a heterosexual man,

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Speaker 4: and I get to enact my desires, but not as

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Speaker 4: much as i'd like. So there are plenty of times

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Speaker 4: when I have these desires, yes, that I will go

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Speaker 4: through the day and I will not enact those desires.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but you are still able to enact the desire. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you were never allowed to enact the desire ever

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Speaker 1: once in your life, how would that affect you?

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Speaker 4: What if I got in my soapbox and argued, well,

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Speaker 4: it's not fair because I don't get to enact my

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Speaker 4: desires anywhere near as much as I would like.

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Speaker 1: You still get to annact them. Yeah, they still get

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Speaker 1: to annect it. So I don't think you can ever.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think you there is no doubt that that

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Speaker 1: that you can't have six with children terrible. You never

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Speaker 1: want to do that awful thing to do for so

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Speaker 1: many reasons. But you can't hate a person who never

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Speaker 1: acts on their desire because they have potentially been born

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Speaker 1: to have that desire. Yeah, I mean, you can't hate

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Speaker 1: that person.

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Speaker 3: You'd never know, you wouldn't even know, you'd never know,

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Speaker 3: you never know what told you you never know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe on their deathbed they said, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I've had these terrible desires my whole life.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I've been kind of a strange person,

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Speaker 3: shuffling around picking houses as far away as I can

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Speaker 3: from schools. And that's because I have these terrible desires,

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Speaker 3: and I thought up my whole life. Mind, Jeff, you're

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Speaker 3: nearly out. I probably wouldn't bother telling someone at that point.

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Speaker 1: I just get out. Keep it to yourself.

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Speaker 3: I just get out. Just get out of that point.

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Speaker 3: I'll I've managed to get right through my life. I've

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Speaker 3: to wrap myself out as having these horrific desires before

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Speaker 3: I die. But anyway, I think on that note, i'd

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Speaker 3: just like to say, yeah, we all agree that humans disgusting, digesting, dribbly,

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Speaker 3: revolting machines that are just here to sort of stay

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Speaker 3: alive long enough to kill enough and eat enough things

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Speaker 3: so they can reproduce, and.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we should wipe ourselves out. I love us.

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Speaker 1: I think we're the greatest. Okay, you like us.

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Speaker 3: I'm into us because because it's fun to talk to

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Speaker 3: these disgusting stomach machines. They they're fun to watch when

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Speaker 3: they're playing sport, These discovering things. I enjoy making love

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Speaker 3: to some of these stomach machines, stomach walking stomachs. I

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Speaker 3: think we're all happier when we're the more time we

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Speaker 3: spent with these disgusting, dribbling, walking stomachs, and I think

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Speaker 3: I'd like to have more of them. I want to

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Speaker 3: spend as much of my life with these disgusting, dribbling,

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Speaker 3: walking stomach humans. Freaking love them, not the petos.

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Speaker 1: Don't like them, okay, don't like them fair enough, don't

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Speaker 1: like them enough. Let's go out and multiply. Let's go

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Speaker 1: eat and then multiplay. Go forth and multiply. That's what

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Speaker 1: we need to do, all right, and have something to me.

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Speaker 3: I can't like you to just practice you too, work again.

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Speaker 3: Me and Mash will go forth and multiply you too.

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Speaker 3: You shut up shop, You've betrayed you, You portrayed your genes.

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Speaker 3: All right, okay, okay, I delete that terrible.

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