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Speaker 2: Hello, are you great, New Zealanders? And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons on z B. Full Show Podcast number

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Speaker 2: eighty six for Thursday, the thirteenth of March twenty twenty five. Now, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: we never get to all of our topics, no, So

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Speaker 2: if you listen to these pods, we all announced, we

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Speaker 2: just been in so many calls and so many texts

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Speaker 2: that we never really get. We're sort of the victim

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Speaker 3: We are. Yeah, so you'll hear the menu next and

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Speaker 3: one or two of those topics we didn't get to,

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Speaker 2: Was fine, it was, but it was it was a

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Speaker 2: great chat today, really really thoroughly enjoyed the conversations today.

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Speaker 2: And look, even though a lot of people were not happy.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon's podcast comes out. All right, enjoy the show, bless

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoons. You welcome into Thursday. You're listening to Matt

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Speaker 3: and Tyler. Thanks to your company is always get a met.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler, get averyone. I'm on the back foot

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Speaker 2: today because I shaved this morning. Yeah, and you know

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Speaker 2: I'm going clean out. Oh thank you, Tyler. You've got

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Speaker 2: standards of Mett and Tyler Afternoons on news Talks. They'd

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Speaker 2: be but I've missed a patch.

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Speaker 3: I've just about to say that when you too enjoy

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Speaker 2: And people that shave will know that they had demoralizing.

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Speaker 2: I'll do my best to fight back from this little

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Speaker 3: Well, without a word of a lie, you might be

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Speaker 3: I rock the full bodied beard these days, but just

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Speaker 3: Right on to today's show after three o'clock, The Rise

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Speaker 3: of Influencer Advertising who Online do you follow and who

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Speaker 3: that have spent considerable suns on these new online influences.

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Speaker 2: I'm open, I'm available as a as a micro influencer.

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Speaker 3: That is a massive middle finger to the councils that

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Speaker 3: But that is up to two o'clock because right now

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Speaker 2: This is because basically postal is collapsing in this country,

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Speaker 2: I think the main problem with with with local body

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Speaker 3: And I don't think we should feel bad about that.

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Speaker 3: The general election, it's two takes, right, what party do

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Speaker 2: How often do we complain rates going up? And how

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Speaker 2: So what would it take to get you to actually

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Speaker 3: Much higher, yeap, or just making it far simpler, just

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Speaker 3: a couple of ticks rather than all this nonsense about

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Speaker 2: But then to make it easier, did you stop anyone

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Speaker 3: Right, let's get into it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: The big stories, big issues, to the trends and everything

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Speaker 4: There'd be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. A report from Local Government New Zealand says

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Speaker 3: that replacing postal voting with a voting booth system is

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Speaker 3: vital for the future of local body elections. Do you

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Speaker 3: agree or disagree? Would that encourage you to get down

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and we're complain all the time. We say, look,

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Speaker 2: we are these absolute muppets with their crazy decisions. But

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Speaker 2: then we pay the price. Yeah, Chris, your thoughts on

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Speaker 6: Yeah, guys. Yeah, I don't have too much trouble with

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Speaker 6: actual physical voting of it. But you know, I think

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Speaker 6: the big problem is I sort of in Auckland. I've

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Speaker 6: have term limits.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Auckland's had a bit of a problem.

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Speaker 2: How much research do you have to do in it?

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Speaker 3: Just just to play devil's advocate for that idea, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Some would argue that those who have remained in the

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Speaker 2: You can't feel free to tell them without any you know,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, not not any dollars changing hands, but you know,

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Speaker 2: Advantageous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, advantageous, that's it.

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what they do in Australia for the general elections, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the numbers are absolutely atrocious, to the

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Speaker 2: Existential threat because if the percentages of people voting and

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Speaker 2: you look for a mandate in voting, and it's becoming

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would argue that I think local body

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Speaker 3: They are the ones who are going to be having

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but there's the problem with your compulsory voting though, right, So,

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Speaker 2: if people that it's hard enough right now to get

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Speaker 2: But just because you can pulsorily force to vote doesn't

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Speaker 2: People are just going and they'll just take They'll just

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty Z. The number

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Speaker 4: Digging into the issues that affect you the my asking.

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Speaker 11: Breakfast, Welcome to the International Investment Day. I found it's

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Speaker 11: somewhat bewildering, I must say, if not Sair, but Jimmy

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Speaker 11: Anderson on the show yesterday, so foreign investment wasn't beg

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Speaker 11: answer to our problems because actually there is.

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Speaker 2: The permanent is to write. The world is watched with.

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Speaker 12: Cash absolutely, so that's a lot of opportunities, right thing

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Speaker 12: you needs to compete.

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Speaker 2: We once had our act together.

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Speaker 11: Today and tomorrow hopefully is about restoring our rightful place

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We are talking about how we increase voter

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Speaker 3: Organization has done a report and they reckon replacing postal

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Speaker 2: But will it make you vote? Yeah, because it said

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Speaker 2: Allen your thought on local body elections.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, I feel the biggest problem.

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Speaker 14: We do have them, but we don't have.

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Speaker 13: Enough night meetings for the working class people Like I'm

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Speaker 2: They do. They do do debates around a local body elections,

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Speaker 2: though I've seen some definitely up in Auckland. So you're saying,

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Speaker 2: Ellen that you would attend those debates or have you attend?

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Speaker 13: I do, but I'd like to see a few more

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Speaker 13: as said, small business type collective entitlement to try and

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Speaker 13: entice people to vote. They could look at doing a

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Speaker 13: if you turn up and register as you come and

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Speaker 3: That would be a good Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Could we benefit like you know, you get on your

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Speaker 13: Yeah, even if it's just for one year. If you names,

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Speaker 13: we don't want those people voting if they're just picking

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If you don't vote, you pay higher rates. That

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 13: So you have been in my town?

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Speaker 2: What towns that allen at least? What towns that allen? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean great, great, oh god, I love toeporar. It's brilliant,

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Speaker 2: all right, Ellen, Thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 3: Just a quick couple of tecks here about the mandatory voting. Yep, agree,

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Speaker 3: mandatory voting would be a good way to raise voter turnout,

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Speaker 3: but there is a few fishooks in that idea. A

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars fine seems reasonable and this one mandatory voting

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Speaker 3: that is crazy. Leave it to the Aussies. Stupid system

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Speaker 2: North Shaw Auckland. Dude answers every pisky issue brought up

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Speaker 2: on our locals page. Politely didn't vote though, that's from

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Speaker 2: what Molly tell you what Richard Hill's polarizing.

439
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Speaker 3: You know, he's still a counselor now, isn't it. I

440
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Speaker 3: know a lot of off with Heather and that did.

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Speaker 2: I say this? He makes me not want to vote

442
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Speaker 2: when I hear him talking.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is number two call.

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Speaker 3: I have heard him on the panel with Heather before

445
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Speaker 3: and yeah, a little bit, you know, pick up the energy, Richard.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a number of number of reasons why

447
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Speaker 2: he makes me not want to vote. But look, it's

448
00:21:27,133 --> 00:21:29,453
Speaker 2: not about me, it's about you. What would make you vote.

449
00:21:29,853 --> 00:21:34,533
Speaker 2: They're talking about going away from postal to polling booths

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Speaker 2: for local body elections. With that make you vote? Oh wait,

451
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Speaker 2: undred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 16: Peters says he's cautious about staying in his lane as

458
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Speaker 16: he talks with big players in the Trump administration. Peters

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462
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Speaker 16: and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for a lane. And how do

474
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Speaker 3: we get more people down to vote in local body elections?

475
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Speaker 3: A suggestion from Local Government New Zealand that we get

476
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Speaker 3: rid of postal voting and just have voting booth likely

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Speaker 3: we do for the general election, would help with voter turnouts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Local Government U Zealand Electoral Reform a group

479
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Speaker 2: chair and Nelson Mayor Nick Smith says participat as participation

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Speaker 2: rates less than half of eligible voters, this is an

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Speaker 2: existential risk to local government reformers needed now to strengthen

482
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Speaker 2: the democratic mandate. Local government has to represent communities across

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, so when it gets less than half of

484
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Speaker 2: people voting, then you don't really have a mandate, which

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Speaker 2: this text addresses that and I quite like this idea.

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Speaker 2: On nineteen ninety two, Hey lads, have a set minimum,

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Speaker 2: say sixty percent of voters. If this is not met,

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Speaker 2: the central government installs a commissioner with appropriate sidekicks.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that would get me to vote?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because because the central government does have a mandate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you're not getting up to that level,

493
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Speaker 2: then you have not the council has not been effectively

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Speaker 2: voted for, and you risk a bunch of muppets getting

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Speaker 2: in the Yeah. Yeah, then the government just you know

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Speaker 2: some still as a commissioner.

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Speaker 3: So basically saying you've got democracy at the moment, but

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Speaker 3: if you don't go down and do your democratic rite

499
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Speaker 3: and vote, we're going to take your democracy away.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, in the past they've kept people in

501
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Speaker 2: Auckland locked in their houses until a certain arbitrary number

502
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Speaker 2: is meant. That was never going to happen, yep, exactly,

503
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Speaker 2: there's some precedent out there.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call Margaret.

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Speaker 2: You're four compulsory voting.

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Speaker 15: Gooday, guys, Yeah, I'm four compulsory voting. I'm from Australia

508
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Speaker 15: and it works. If you're going to get fined, you

509
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Speaker 15: go and vote.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And what is the fine. It's fifty dollars is

511
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Speaker 3: at give or take.

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Speaker 15: Look, I don't remember. I've been over here for nearly

513
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Speaker 15: ten years now, so I thought it was actually more.

514
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Speaker 15: There's a fair incentive to get out and vote. The

515
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Speaker 15: other thing I'd mentioned is that when you talk about

516
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Speaker 15: voting at the polling booth, it's a really social thing

517
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Speaker 15: to do. You actually meet neighbors at the local hall

518
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Speaker 15: and have a bit of a chat over. In Australia,

519
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Speaker 15: the candidates are allowed to be there right up to

520
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Speaker 15: the day they put They throw you know, posters in

521
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Speaker 15: your in your hand on the way in to tell

522
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Speaker 15: you how to vote, and you kind of get a

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Speaker 15: flavor for.

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Speaker 9: What's going on.

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Speaker 15: It's quite an exciting little outing. And I'm not at

526
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Speaker 15: all for more government interference. I'm just telling you that

527
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Speaker 15: it works, that's all.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So is that local body and national elections and

529
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Speaker 2: state elections. They're all compulsory with a fine attached.

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Speaker 10: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Interesting because yeah, I assumed it was just national, but

532
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Speaker 3: across the board does make sense.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and here, you know, it was kind of meant

534
00:25:52,813 --> 00:25:55,413
Speaker 15: alluded to before, but you know, we only have two

535
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Speaker 15: tiers of government here, so local has a really big

536
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Speaker 15: influence in our lives, probably more than the local councils

537
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Speaker 15: in Australia because you've got another you know, you've got

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Speaker 15: state government as well, and really you don't think so

539
00:26:07,053 --> 00:26:08,933
Speaker 15: much about your council unless you want to renovate your

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Speaker 15: house or your rubbish doesn't get picked up in Australia,

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Speaker 15: but here, you know, their mandate comes directly from central

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Speaker 15: government and it affects a lot more areas of our lives.

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Speaker 15: I go along to our local council meetings and I

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Speaker 15: know who I'll be voting for because I can see

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Speaker 15: who participates and who just sits there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So you're an informed voter, Margaret, you're on

547
00:26:30,013 --> 00:26:34,213
Speaker 2: the very low percentage of informed local body election voters.

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Speaker 7: Yeap.

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Speaker 15: And I actually write an article for a local rag

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Speaker 15: as well, talking about the you know, what's happening at

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Speaker 15: the council, mostly mostly the negative stuff that we need

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Speaker 15: to be addressing, like the council's getting us into huge

553
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Speaker 15: amounts of debt going forward, that sort of thing that's

554
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Speaker 15: just completely unacceptable and untenable. And you know, I think

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Speaker 15: we do need more awareness in our local councils. And

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Speaker 15: I think if you if there's a thread of the fine.

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Speaker 15: And again I have to say, I'm not for more

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Speaker 15: government in interference, but it's a bit of an incentive

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Speaker 15: to actually go along to one of those meetings a

560
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Speaker 15: gentleman mentioned before, or read something in the local paper,

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Speaker 15: or listen to the news, or you know, pay attention

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Speaker 15: to the information you get about candidates.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, the counter argument to the compulsory voting

564
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Speaker 2: as you get a bunch of informed people voting and.

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Speaker 15: Always get that, you always get a percentage of people

566
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Speaker 15: who you know, who object, and that's that way of objecting,

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Speaker 15: and that's the democratic right.

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Speaker 6: You know, even if they.

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Speaker 15: Do vote for someone with a funny name, you know

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Speaker 15: that's going to happen. But I don't think if you're

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Speaker 15: talking about you know, the elections, the number of people

572
00:27:48,093 --> 00:27:52,333
Speaker 15: voting not even being effectual, you know, being completely ineffectual,

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Speaker 15: I think you'd easily double it by by making it compulsory.

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Speaker 2: I have an interesting situation, you know, and some becoming

575
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Speaker 2: a citizen, you have to answer certain questions and know

576
00:28:01,573 --> 00:28:05,413
Speaker 2: a certain amount about the country you're moving to. You know, famously,

577
00:28:05,453 --> 00:28:08,173
Speaker 2: you said in American movies and sitcoms, people sitting that

578
00:28:09,173 --> 00:28:11,693
Speaker 2: would be interesting. If there's a situation where you not

579
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Speaker 2: only have to compulsory vote, but you have to compulsorily

580
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Speaker 2: pass a test to show that you actually understand a

581
00:28:18,973 --> 00:28:20,453
Speaker 2: little bit about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I'd be up for that, would you, Yeah, Margaret good idea.

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Speaker 15: Oh well I haven't become a citizen yet, but I'm

584
00:28:27,853 --> 00:28:29,013
Speaker 15: sure I could pass the test.

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00:28:29,213 --> 00:28:30,013
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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00:28:30,453 --> 00:28:32,893
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you could definitely pass the local body test.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Margaret Good, on you.

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00:28:35,853 --> 00:28:36,413
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, argued, I've just had a look at the

590
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Speaker 3: voter turnout across Australia. So in twenty twenty two, which

591
00:28:42,093 --> 00:28:44,053
Speaker 3: was the latest figures I could fire for that House

592
00:28:44,053 --> 00:28:48,893
Speaker 3: of Representatives eighty nine percent turnout for the Senate, ninety

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00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:53,173
Speaker 3: percent turnout for the federal election, eighty nine percent turnout.

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00:28:53,293 --> 00:28:56,013
Speaker 3: So for US local body on average across the board

595
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Speaker 3: was about thirty two percent.

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Speaker 2: That is not a mandate. Compulsory voting is crazy people

597
00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:03,373
Speaker 2: who aren't interested and forced to vote, whill just vote

598
00:29:03,413 --> 00:29:08,253
Speaker 2: randomly without researching the best candidates. It's a privilege to vote. No,

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00:29:08,493 --> 00:29:11,453
Speaker 2: not compulsory one not out of over sixty they lost

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Speaker 2: their brains. We post box over road. If we have

601
00:29:14,693 --> 00:29:17,253
Speaker 2: get taxi bad legs. So you've just said that people

602
00:29:18,013 --> 00:29:20,133
Speaker 2: over sixty should't vote because they've lost their brains. And

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00:29:20,173 --> 00:29:23,333
Speaker 2: then you've written post box over road if hall have

604
00:29:23,533 --> 00:29:28,933
Speaker 2: get taxi bad legs. So you know from try Yeahart

605
00:29:29,053 --> 00:29:30,453
Speaker 2: could be you that's lost the brain New.

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00:29:30,573 --> 00:29:32,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, boys.

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Speaker 2: Some of the small town long standing counselors are like mafia.

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Speaker 2: No one can stand against them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

610
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Speaker 3: number to call stand by because we're going to have

611
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Speaker 3: a check to a few people involved in local body elections.

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Speaker 3: It is nineteen to two.

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Speaker 3: B sixteen to two.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about local boder elections and a suggestion that

618
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Speaker 2: we should move to polling boots and instead of postal

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Speaker 2: voting because almost no one's voting.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This stage it has a text from Mary on nine

622
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Speaker 2: two nine two. New Zealanders are lazy and dim witted,

623
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Speaker 2: but they all have an option and it's often loudest

624
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Speaker 2: from those who don't engage. Hi, guys, currently oz eighty

625
00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:26,733
Speaker 2: dollars fine for not voting, So there you go. Yeah,

626
00:30:26,893 --> 00:30:29,573
Speaker 2: my friend was overseas with the voice vote and received

627
00:30:29,573 --> 00:30:34,613
Speaker 2: her fine through the post which you got. Nick, you're

628
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Speaker 2: involved in local body elections.

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Speaker 10: Well, I guys, good good discussion, some really interesting points there.

630
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Speaker 10: Just trying to really find some good, good candidates here.

631
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Speaker 10: It's interesting what you're what you said about. Sort of

632
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Speaker 10: back in christ Church maybe in the day there were

633
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Speaker 10: sort of old boy networks. So I think the councils

634
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:02,853
Speaker 10: are throwing an awful lot the other way. I think

635
00:31:03,293 --> 00:31:06,053
Speaker 10: people haven't been getting involved and I think we'll see

636
00:31:06,133 --> 00:31:10,453
Speaker 10: more sort of the young people, the green movement, people

637
00:31:10,493 --> 00:31:13,373
Speaker 10: coming into council within ideas of lots of nice to

638
00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:17,213
Speaker 10: do things. But as you say, councilors are massive organizations

639
00:31:17,253 --> 00:31:20,173
Speaker 10: and there's a huge decisions. I mean here in Tasman

640
00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:23,933
Speaker 10: we had the damn whatever three hundred million dollar project.

641
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Speaker 10: I think there's a real lack of people with business

642
00:31:26,973 --> 00:31:32,453
Speaker 10: experience in the councils making these huge decisions. So we

643
00:31:32,573 --> 00:31:36,093
Speaker 10: desperately need to get people to vote. Maybe we should

644
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Speaker 10: have rate players having more say in the voting as well.

645
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Speaker 10: I think they're the people with the real skin in

646
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Speaker 10: the game. I worry a bit that you've got sort

647
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:47,213
Speaker 10: of temporary people in the area for a year or

648
00:31:47,213 --> 00:31:49,613
Speaker 10: two on a contract or something, and they can register

649
00:31:49,693 --> 00:31:52,493
Speaker 10: to vote and have as much, say as somebody who

650
00:31:52,493 --> 00:31:56,053
Speaker 10: maybe owns multiple properties and is paying tens of thousands

651
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Speaker 10: of dollars in rates. And there's a lot more affected

652
00:31:58,733 --> 00:32:02,053
Speaker 10: by council decisions on whether they can build new driveways

653
00:32:02,093 --> 00:32:04,813
Speaker 10: and they add buildings and that sort of thing. So

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Speaker 10: I think there's a lot needs to be done, and

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Speaker 10: we definitely have to find ways to motivate more people

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Speaker 10: to get out there and vote, and those who are

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Speaker 10: more concerned. I think local council affects our daily life

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Speaker 10: probably more than sort of national government does. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I think really important to find some ways. I like

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Speaker 10: the idea of potential mandatory voting. I mean, a small fire,

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Speaker 10: it's not a big deal. Do you think both?

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Speaker 2: Do you think bringing back polling booths? You know, instigating

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Speaker 2: polling booths for local body elections would help?

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Speaker 10: So I'm thinking about them. I'm not sure, you know

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Speaker 10: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: If you put them where people go, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you put them in supermarkets or malls or where people

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Speaker 2: are already going it my help.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, as an extension or an alternative to postal voting.

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Speaker 10: I mean it's easy enough when you've got a post

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Speaker 10: box and you get your things. But yeah, you do worry.

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Speaker 10: People move around a lot. There's an awful lot of

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Speaker 10: stuff sits in mailboxes these days, probably gets lost, aren't

674
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Speaker 10: really tracked. There's no id for tracking who's voting through

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Speaker 10: the postal vote. You can pick up a form and

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Speaker 10: ticket and send it off again and then a vote's done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you for you cool neck.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think last time, you know, because it was

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Speaker 3: postal voting, you had to go down to the local

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Speaker 3: council or a library, and I didn't realize you could

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Speaker 3: do it the library.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know where a post box is. I

683
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Speaker 2: haven't seen one in ages that isn't in front of

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Speaker 2: the you know, a post office, and there's had any

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Speaker 2: post offices anymore.

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Speaker 3: Just do it fast post and just the normal posts,

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Speaker 3: you know those old post boxes, and one side would

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Speaker 3: be blue and one side would be read fast posts.

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Speaker 2: It's just national and international now yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, just the idea of going down to

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Speaker 3: a council and handing in the voting ballot was just

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Speaker 3: a pain. So you know, being able to do it

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Speaker 3: online or hopefully a voting booth might help a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Ken, I understand you're joining the muppets and standing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I've just come from a discussion with a few people.

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Speaker 12: They want to put my name forward to stand for

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Speaker 12: the count on two things. Run Auckland City Council and

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Speaker 12: the other one Rodney would right, And I've been listening

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Speaker 12: and it's I agree on mandatory voting and also people

700
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Speaker 12: should be fined because a lot of people criticize people

701
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Speaker 12: for being in there and yet they don't vote. So

702
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Speaker 12: you know, you can't criticize if you don't vote. So

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Speaker 12: the thing is that I'm standing on the fact that

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Speaker 12: as an independent where the thing is that I've heard

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Speaker 12: of quite a few things that have been going on

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Speaker 12: that if your labor or whatever party that you follow,

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Speaker 12: if you're people with you on the committee or the

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Speaker 12: council vote against you because you've put it forward. And

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Speaker 12: it's like, for example, say National might oppose something that's

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Speaker 12: really good for the rate players, but they don't like

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Speaker 12: the person and it might have been put forward by

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Speaker 12: a Green or a labor party, and of course what

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Speaker 12: happens they vote against it, and yet it's there for

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Speaker 12: the rate players, not for the the you know. And

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Speaker 12: it's very disappointing that people take their national commitment towards

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Speaker 12: local bodies, you know, like you're.

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Speaker 3: Talking about party politics.

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Speaker 12: Ken, Yeah, Well, the thing is party politics come into

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Speaker 12: the local scene as well, and it shouldn't be because

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Speaker 12: those people have voted in or elected in for what

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Speaker 12: they can do for the for them, for the local area,

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Speaker 12: not because of the government want this or that.

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Speaker 3: It's a fair point, but sometimes that backfires on them, Ken,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it? And again, you know, I know I'm speaking

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Speaker 3: about Christis a lot, but that's where I voted for

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Speaker 3: the past couple of elections, and they have what's called

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Speaker 3: the People's Choice, which is clearly labor aligned, and any

728
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Speaker 3: counselor that joined the people's choice last time got burnt

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Speaker 3: by that, as people would have real labor. Some got through,

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Speaker 3: some got through, but sometter we'll.

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Speaker 12: See the thing is that I'm actually standing only only

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Speaker 12: because I've voiced my opinion on quite a few things,

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Speaker 12: and everybody says, well, why don't you put your mouth

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Speaker 12: wer thingers and of course go for it. And I'm

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Speaker 12: thinking that's a good idea. I probably won't get in

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Speaker 12: because I don't have a name for myself. I'm the

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Speaker 12: next businessman. I've been there, done that on the shovel.

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Speaker 12: So the thing is, I know what it's about. However,

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Speaker 12: I'm more in tune to the area. You know, like,

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Speaker 12: for example, just things that the council do are just

741
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Speaker 12: so pretty oddish.

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Speaker 2: Well good on you, Ken for standing if you want

743
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Speaker 2: to make a change. I was just thinking about how,

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Speaker 2: you know, we complain a lot about council and part

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Speaker 2: of the reason is we don't know anything about these

746
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Speaker 2: people until they get it, and then we find out

747
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Speaker 2: what they're like, and then we complain about But at

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Speaker 2: the point, you just read the little bit that you

749
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Speaker 2: get in the pamphlets and you go through and it's

750
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Speaker 2: obviously a carefully worded piece of promotion for themselves, a

751
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Speaker 2: little pr blue and then they're in and then you go, oh, right,

752
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Speaker 2: well this person wasn't who I thought they were, and

753
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Speaker 2: then you hate them. But then that doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: be me motive motivating people to go and vote to

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Speaker 2: vote them out again either, does it, But how do

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Speaker 2: you change the numbers or so low.

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Speaker 3: Some some speed dating situation with our local candidates where

758
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Speaker 3: you get to really quiz them about who actually are

759
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Speaker 3: they and if they're a weirdo, they don't get your vote. Oh,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: And no weirdos policy.

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Speaker 3: It is hate to do.

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Speaker 1: Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoons with the Volvo xc

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Speaker 1: N eighty.

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Speaker 4: Tick every box, a seamless experience.

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Speaker 2: Awaits news talksb news talks there be.

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Speaker 3: It is six to two and we're talking about how

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Speaker 3: we get more people to vote in local body elections.

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Speaker 3: It's woe for in terms of the turnout at the moment.

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Speaker 3: A suggestion from local Government New Zealand's is that replacing

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Speaker 3: postal voting with a voting booth system like we do

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Speaker 3: for the general election might help.

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Speaker 2: Party politics is are rarely corrupting the system. Labor and

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Speaker 2: Greens unashamably stand candidates who will only vote on party

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Speaker 2: ideals and not for what makes practical sense for the area.

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Speaker 2: I need much bitter vetting of candidates, especially their commercial experience.

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Speaker 2: That's from Nick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like we were talking about this other day,

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Speaker 2: how it's because of MMP we now just get one

782
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Speaker 2: opinion versus another opinion. You didn't have your local South

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Speaker 2: Dunedin MP. He'll be fighting for his area, his electorate.

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Speaker 2: They just have to follow the party line, right, and

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Speaker 2: so you'd hope that that doesn't isn't the case in

786
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Speaker 2: a local bodies as well, because you want them fighting

787
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Speaker 2: just for your city and the things that are particular

788
00:39:05,973 --> 00:39:08,693
Speaker 2: to that little area, right, Yeah, as a poe to

789
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Speaker 2: just holding the line of the central government. So you

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Speaker 2: should be if you've got Labor Party, National Party, Green Party,

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Speaker 2: whatever party connections and you're running and you're going to

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Speaker 2: be in line with them, you should be very very

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Speaker 2: clear that that's what you're doing, that you're voting for

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Speaker 2: just whatever that major political party, that nationwide party believes.

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Speaker 2: If you're just going to vote that in line with them,

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Speaker 2: I agree, because that's ideology. Then you should just say

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Speaker 2: what you are. You're a Labor candidate, you're a national

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Speaker 2: candidate running for local body, and that you're just going

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Speaker 2: to do. You're just going to toe that line. Of

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Speaker 2: that party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, we're going to pick this back up after

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Speaker 3: two o'clock and just a reminder, we're going to have

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Speaker 3: a chat to Nick Smith, he is the Nelson Mayor

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Speaker 3: and also the Electoral Reform Group Chair for Local Government

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Speaker 3: New Zealand to get his thoughts on this report that

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Speaker 3: is coming up very shortly. But love to hear from you. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number you're listening

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Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler. Hope you're having a great afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Thank for your company as always users.

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Speaker 4: Next you there.

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Speaker 1: Alone talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor

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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoon with the Volvo XC nineteen news Talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon. We've been discussing how to increase

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Speaker 3: the voter turnout for local body elections. It's on the

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Speaker 3: back of Local Government New Zealand's reports which said that

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Speaker 3: replacing postal voting with a voting booth system is vital

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Speaker 3: for the future of local body elections. Well, LGNZ Electoral

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Speaker 3: Reform Group Chair and Nelson mere is Nick Smith and

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Speaker 3: he joins us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Nick, what are their voting percentage numbers like in

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Speaker 2: local body elections at the moment.

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Speaker 18: Oh, it's pretty damn allful. We're down to about forty percent.

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Speaker 18: It's been declining for more than thirty years. When I

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Speaker 18: first stood for local government in the nine teen eighties,

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Speaker 18: it was it about sixty percent. And the other important

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Speaker 18: comparison is actually New Zealanders have a damn good track

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Speaker 18: record and their participation in parliamentary elections. We're up at

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Speaker 18: eighty percent.

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Speaker 2: What's the logic of polling booths over postal voting that's

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Speaker 2: being suggested.

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Speaker 18: Well, the first thing is that posts stuff. That is

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Speaker 18: that the numbers have just collapsed by about ninety percent.

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Speaker 18: We've got a significant number of households that either don't

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Speaker 18: have a letterbox or don't use it, and of course

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Speaker 18: we're seeing them remove all of postboxes. Even since we

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Speaker 18: started the work, there's least frequent mail services and so

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Speaker 18: we're just simply saying we've got to find an alternative.

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Speaker 18: For about twenty years, governments, both national and labor, and

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Speaker 18: quite a few councils have said, oh gee, the answer

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Speaker 18: is to move to e voting, and in despite promising

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Speaker 18: to do it, nobody has and the reason is the

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Speaker 18: moment you get into the detail, they just cannot get

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Speaker 18: on top of the security problems. The New Zealand Intelligence

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Speaker 18: Service has been quite upfront about that. In fact, things

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Speaker 18: around cyber attacks have actually got worse, not better, and

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Speaker 18: there are authoritarian regimes in the world that are aimed

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Speaker 18: at discredited at undermining our democracy. It just makes e

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Speaker 18: voting to risky and that really only leaves you with

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Speaker 18: the tried and true method that we use for our

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Speaker 18: parliamentary elections. And the great thing about that is that

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Speaker 18: we know it works, and it's also something that people

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Speaker 18: are very familiar with that would work by people having

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Speaker 18: access to polling booths to two weeks, that the polling

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Speaker 18: booths would be in those places that people frequent, super markets,

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Speaker 18: in shopping malls, in libraries, and that it is as

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Speaker 18: similar as possible to what happens at our general elections.

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Speaker 2: Real me things to work though with some government. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've just been involved in using me for some government

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Speaker 2: admin that I had to do. So why isn't it

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Speaker 2: good enough for voting? If it's good enough for kids

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Speaker 2: signing up for student loans or passports, Well.

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Speaker 18: The things with things likes of financial transactions is if

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Speaker 18: you get it wrong, at least it can in future

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Speaker 18: be undone. That's not true for voting. And of course

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Speaker 18: it's also really important and essential to the voting system

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Speaker 18: that it is a secret ballot and so if somehow

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Speaker 18: your vote was changed, you'd never ever know. Now it

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Speaker 18: is a matter of record that there are cybersecurity attacks

870
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Speaker 18: that have occurred on eleectoral systems, and what the experts,

871
00:43:47,373 --> 00:43:51,093
Speaker 18: including the New Zealand soissay is it's just too risky.

872
00:43:52,053 --> 00:43:54,652
Speaker 3: So going back to the voting both booth system, do

873
00:43:54,733 --> 00:43:57,373
Speaker 3: you envision it or does the report envision it exactly

874
00:43:57,453 --> 00:43:59,453
Speaker 3: like how we have the General Body that it would

875
00:43:59,493 --> 00:44:02,693
Speaker 3: take place on a Saturday, that there'd be multiple booths around,

876
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:05,133
Speaker 3: that there would be a bit of hype behind it

877
00:44:05,173 --> 00:44:07,652
Speaker 3: to remind people it's on and hopefully get them into

878
00:44:07,653 --> 00:44:08,013
Speaker 3: that booth.

879
00:44:08,853 --> 00:44:11,813
Speaker 18: Yes, exactly. And what's more, we want to recruit you

880
00:44:11,893 --> 00:44:14,652
Speaker 18: know the orange man and his dog that's used by

881
00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:17,493
Speaker 18: the Electoral Commission. What we do at the moment is

882
00:44:17,533 --> 00:44:20,252
Speaker 18: you have seventy eight councils all doing their ad hot

883
00:44:20,333 --> 00:44:23,533
Speaker 18: campaigns to get out of vote. They only spend about

884
00:44:23,573 --> 00:44:27,413
Speaker 18: forty five cents per voter. The Electoral Commission spends on

885
00:44:27,493 --> 00:44:30,373
Speaker 18: average four dollars a voter with those campaigns with the

886
00:44:30,453 --> 00:44:31,173
Speaker 18: Orange Man.

887
00:44:31,053 --> 00:44:33,413
Speaker 19: And dog, you get what you pay for.

888
00:44:33,573 --> 00:44:36,493
Speaker 18: We shouldn't be surprised that we get such a pathetic

889
00:44:36,533 --> 00:44:40,613
Speaker 18: result in local elections when the campaigns poorly coordinated. We

890
00:44:40,693 --> 00:44:43,133
Speaker 18: spend very little on it, and I do think that

891
00:44:43,333 --> 00:44:46,573
Speaker 18: New Zealanders understand the message they get from the Orange

892
00:44:46,573 --> 00:44:48,093
Speaker 18: Man and the Dog, and we n it works.

893
00:44:48,493 --> 00:44:50,933
Speaker 2: So when you say polling booths and supermarkets, they're going

894
00:44:50,973 --> 00:44:53,893
Speaker 2: to be have to be manned, aren't they, and that'll

895
00:44:53,893 --> 00:44:54,533
Speaker 2: get pretty.

896
00:44:54,413 --> 00:44:56,693
Speaker 18: Chances as they are, yeah, just as they are for

897
00:44:56,773 --> 00:44:58,973
Speaker 18: general elections. So effectively, what we're saying is, look, the

898
00:44:58,973 --> 00:45:01,533
Speaker 18: Electoral Commission hops out once every three years, but I've

899
00:45:01,573 --> 00:45:03,973
Speaker 18: got all the infrastructure there. Let's just roll them out

900
00:45:04,013 --> 00:45:05,652
Speaker 18: when we do the local elections and make it as

901
00:45:05,653 --> 00:45:08,732
Speaker 18: similar as possible in our report all so, I think

902
00:45:08,773 --> 00:45:10,973
Speaker 18: it would be sensible for us to move to a

903
00:45:11,053 --> 00:45:14,573
Speaker 18: four year term. Our perfect outcome would be for both

904
00:45:14,653 --> 00:45:17,533
Speaker 18: Parliament and councils to move to a four year term.

905
00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:21,013
Speaker 18: The public has an election once every two years, and

906
00:45:21,053 --> 00:45:24,613
Speaker 18: it alternates between a local and a national election of course,

907
00:45:24,653 --> 00:45:26,652
Speaker 18: if there was a change to four years, it would

908
00:45:26,653 --> 00:45:30,053
Speaker 18: need to be by referendum. Parliament last week voted for

909
00:45:30,093 --> 00:45:32,973
Speaker 18: a bill to do just that. We're just asking that

910
00:45:33,013 --> 00:45:34,693
Speaker 18: if you're going to move to four year terms with

911
00:45:34,773 --> 00:45:37,413
Speaker 18: the referendum for Parliament, that you do so for councils

912
00:45:37,453 --> 00:45:37,893
Speaker 18: as well.

913
00:45:37,973 --> 00:45:40,812
Speaker 2: We're talking to local government New Zealand Electoral Reformed chair

914
00:45:40,973 --> 00:45:44,533
Speaker 2: and Nelson Mayor Nick Smith. Is the problem that people

915
00:45:44,653 --> 00:45:48,172
Speaker 2: just don't care and it's too complicated. Who has time

916
00:45:48,213 --> 00:45:52,573
Speaker 2: to research all the candidates? You know how busy people

917
00:45:52,653 --> 00:45:55,613
Speaker 2: are these days. I mean, you know, I'm interested in politics,

918
00:45:55,653 --> 00:45:59,093
Speaker 2: but when I go into when I'm voting and it

919
00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:01,013
Speaker 2: arrives in the mail, I look down. I go I've

920
00:46:01,013 --> 00:46:04,413
Speaker 2: got no idea, absolutely no idea. And you know in

921
00:46:04,453 --> 00:46:07,692
Speaker 2: a general election it's divided into parties. You go, well,

922
00:46:07,893 --> 00:46:11,093
Speaker 2: this person and is generally in the area I want

923
00:46:11,133 --> 00:46:12,813
Speaker 2: to vote, and that that can happen. You can't that

924
00:46:12,893 --> 00:46:15,173
Speaker 2: there is sort of allegiances there. But is it just

925
00:46:15,413 --> 00:46:16,693
Speaker 2: too complicated for people?

926
00:46:17,933 --> 00:46:21,133
Speaker 18: I think your reflections are exactly what we've found in

927
00:46:21,173 --> 00:46:24,373
Speaker 18: our research and work, and that is, even if you

928
00:46:24,453 --> 00:46:27,133
Speaker 18: do the changes we're proposing, we need to be careful

929
00:46:27,133 --> 00:46:29,893
Speaker 18: to keep the voting system sensible. If you say to

930
00:46:29,933 --> 00:46:32,853
Speaker 18: a vote and look there's forty candidates, go pick five

931
00:46:32,893 --> 00:46:35,893
Speaker 18: of them, they're just going to be overwhelmed and not bother.

932
00:46:36,333 --> 00:46:39,213
Speaker 18: We do think there's an opportunity to use modern technology,

933
00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 18: so we're suggesting in the report that people and there

934
00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:44,013
Speaker 18: be a website of which you can actually watch a

935
00:46:44,053 --> 00:46:47,133
Speaker 18: short video we've suggested three minutes, and that you know,

936
00:46:47,253 --> 00:46:50,773
Speaker 18: by actually seeing people is actually a bit more interesting

937
00:46:50,893 --> 00:46:53,772
Speaker 18: than just one hundred and fifty word statement. The last

938
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:55,893
Speaker 18: that we would add in that area is that there

939
00:46:55,933 --> 00:46:58,773
Speaker 18: is a job to do to try and ensure that

940
00:46:58,813 --> 00:47:01,693
Speaker 18: people have got good information about candidates, and the report's

941
00:47:01,733 --> 00:47:02,533
Speaker 18: got some ideas on that.

942
00:47:02,733 --> 00:47:02,893
Speaker 15: Yeah.

943
00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 2: Well, people soon to complain a lot in the in

944
00:47:04,853 --> 00:47:07,893
Speaker 2: they do with who gets in, but don't necessarily take

945
00:47:07,893 --> 00:47:10,493
Speaker 2: the effort to learn who's going in and vote on it.

946
00:47:10,533 --> 00:47:13,053
Speaker 2: Is there any finally, is there any talk of compulsory voting?

947
00:47:13,053 --> 00:47:15,013
Speaker 2: Will that ever be a thing in New Zealand as

948
00:47:15,013 --> 00:47:15,813
Speaker 2: it is in Australia.

949
00:47:16,653 --> 00:47:18,933
Speaker 18: Oh well, they do have compulsory voting in Australia, but

950
00:47:18,973 --> 00:47:21,413
Speaker 18: they come from convict stock and they probably need something

951
00:47:21,453 --> 00:47:23,853
Speaker 18: that's stronger to keep them in line. II think it

952
00:47:23,893 --> 00:47:25,652
Speaker 18: would be a mistake to go all the way to

953
00:47:25,853 --> 00:47:28,853
Speaker 18: compulsory voting. In the New Zealand legal system, it is

954
00:47:28,893 --> 00:47:32,213
Speaker 18: compulsory to be on the role, but not to the vote,

955
00:47:32,373 --> 00:47:34,133
Speaker 18: and we're not recommending change to that.

956
00:47:34,613 --> 00:47:37,172
Speaker 3: Very interesting and Nick, thank you very much for your time.

957
00:47:37,253 --> 00:47:38,013
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.

958
00:47:38,213 --> 00:47:38,613
Speaker 10: Thank you.

959
00:47:39,013 --> 00:47:42,253
Speaker 3: That is Nick Smith's Local Government New Zealand Electoral Reform

960
00:47:42,413 --> 00:47:45,493
Speaker 3: Group Chair And of course now some mere interesting.

961
00:47:46,253 --> 00:47:48,613
Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing that we have to spend a whole

962
00:47:48,613 --> 00:47:50,653
Speaker 2: lot of our own money? So you know, the government's

963
00:47:50,693 --> 00:47:53,613
Speaker 2: money is money that we've paid in taxes to convince

964
00:47:53,653 --> 00:47:55,973
Speaker 2: ourselves to go out and vote. So the government has

965
00:47:56,013 --> 00:47:59,413
Speaker 2: to spend what you say, four dollars is spent on

966
00:47:59,813 --> 00:48:03,253
Speaker 2: advertising per vote that they get. Did I understand that right?

967
00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:06,493
Speaker 3: That's what I heard. That's a very bad return on investment,

968
00:48:06,533 --> 00:48:07,093
Speaker 3: isn't it full?

969
00:48:07,093 --> 00:48:11,373
Speaker 2: Butocracy so important to us, and you know, it's it's

970
00:48:11,413 --> 00:48:15,133
Speaker 2: the bedrock of our society, you know, or our political system,

971
00:48:15,373 --> 00:48:18,213
Speaker 2: and yet we have to spend that much money just

972
00:48:18,253 --> 00:48:20,733
Speaker 2: to convince people to go vote and then to vote

973
00:48:20,733 --> 00:48:24,093
Speaker 2: in local bodies. We're not spending as much money, but

974
00:48:24,173 --> 00:48:28,373
Speaker 2: surely there's something fundamental wrong, fundamentally wrong with the way

975
00:48:28,413 --> 00:48:30,493
Speaker 2: we see the world if we're just having to be

976
00:48:30,733 --> 00:48:34,453
Speaker 2: harangued into voting for the people that rule us.

977
00:48:34,533 --> 00:48:37,212
Speaker 3: Yeah. But also, as the orange guy, the best we've got,

978
00:48:37,413 --> 00:48:40,013
Speaker 3: you know, it was okay, It's okay. We can do better.

979
00:48:40,093 --> 00:48:42,813
Speaker 2: As a person that runs an animation company, yeah, I

980
00:48:42,853 --> 00:48:46,093
Speaker 2: find the orange man offensive. It's like when I was

981
00:48:46,093 --> 00:48:49,293
Speaker 2: at university doing computer science and the first the first

982
00:48:49,413 --> 00:48:54,533
Speaker 2: ancient types of three D animations we did. Yeah, it's

983
00:48:54,933 --> 00:48:59,493
Speaker 2: it's an abomination, absolute abomination. But next myth as it works.

984
00:48:59,533 --> 00:49:02,053
Speaker 2: So if the abomination works, then go for it. I mean,

985
00:49:02,053 --> 00:49:03,692
Speaker 2: do we want them to spend kind of pix our

986
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:05,453
Speaker 2: money to make it really really impressive?

987
00:49:05,573 --> 00:49:05,812
Speaker 10: Yes?

988
00:49:05,933 --> 00:49:09,093
Speaker 2: Or are we fine with just that that hopefully not

989
00:49:09,213 --> 00:49:11,933
Speaker 2: much of that money is going towards those animations, so

990
00:49:12,013 --> 00:49:14,732
Speaker 2: hopefully that's on the media spend. Hey guys, my brother

991
00:49:14,773 --> 00:49:17,173
Speaker 2: stood for council Ward last election, and he has a

992
00:49:17,213 --> 00:49:21,373
Speaker 2: complete nutcase and he's only looking for a steady income.

993
00:49:22,013 --> 00:49:24,692
Speaker 2: You would never know by his blurb. He didn't get in,

994
00:49:24,893 --> 00:49:27,293
Speaker 2: but he got a few hundred votes. This puts me

995
00:49:27,373 --> 00:49:29,853
Speaker 2: right off that his brother is in nutcase. I mean,

996
00:49:29,853 --> 00:49:31,853
Speaker 2: that's an interesting thing as well, as you've got the

997
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:34,133
Speaker 2: difference between people that go into the council because they

998
00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:35,933
Speaker 2: want to make a difference and they believe in stuff

999
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:38,613
Speaker 2: and they've learned something over their careers and they think

1000
00:49:38,653 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 2: they have something that can make their city a better place,

1001
00:49:42,533 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 2: right Yeah, and there's those that are going in for

1002
00:49:45,453 --> 00:49:48,973
Speaker 2: a job and they're just holding on each year to

1003
00:49:49,013 --> 00:49:51,493
Speaker 2: continue being a member of the council.

1004
00:49:52,493 --> 00:49:55,013
Speaker 3: The money's pretty good even for small towns. If then

1005
00:49:55,053 --> 00:49:57,773
Speaker 3: if you're part of these committees and community boards and

1006
00:49:57,773 --> 00:50:00,212
Speaker 3: all that, which sounds like very punishing things to do,

1007
00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:02,692
Speaker 3: but you know, for an extra fifteen k for every

1008
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:05,173
Speaker 3: one of those boards you're on ends up being good money.

1009
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:07,733
Speaker 2: Jeremy says, not sure what the advertising spend is. We

1010
00:50:07,733 --> 00:50:10,173
Speaker 2: should look that, actually find out what the advertising spend is.

1011
00:50:10,653 --> 00:50:13,653
Speaker 2: But let's say it's ten million. Tell everyone that votes

1012
00:50:13,773 --> 00:50:17,933
Speaker 2: goes into a drawer to win two prizes of five million.

1013
00:50:18,213 --> 00:50:21,573
Speaker 2: A voting lottery, voting lottery. What are you looking at

1014
00:50:21,573 --> 00:50:24,373
Speaker 2: with lotto? Now it's a one in thirty eight million chance.

1015
00:50:23,973 --> 00:50:26,333
Speaker 2: Your chances would be better if we were giving away

1016
00:50:26,333 --> 00:50:27,373
Speaker 2: that money for voting.

1017
00:50:27,413 --> 00:50:28,773
Speaker 3: You don't write these down and give them to the

1018
00:50:28,813 --> 00:50:29,533
Speaker 3: actual commission.

1019
00:50:29,573 --> 00:50:33,292
Speaker 2: Feels a little bit like an idiocracy, but it might work.

1020
00:50:34,213 --> 00:50:36,253
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1021
00:50:36,293 --> 00:50:38,573
Speaker 3: It is seventeen bus two.

1022
00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:42,413
Speaker 1: Wow, your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor

1023
00:50:42,493 --> 00:50:46,252
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into

1024
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Speaker 1: something special. Call eight hundred eighty eighty News Talk.

1025
00:50:49,933 --> 00:50:50,293
Speaker 4: Sa'd be.

1026
00:50:52,173 --> 00:50:55,652
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, nineteen past two, and we're talking about what

1027
00:50:55,773 --> 00:50:57,813
Speaker 3: is the best way to increase voter turnout in the

1028
00:50:57,853 --> 00:50:59,053
Speaker 3: local body elections.

1029
00:50:59,613 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 2: Here's a text through ideocracy. Is that a word, Matt, Well,

1030
00:51:02,533 --> 00:51:06,653
Speaker 2: it is. It was fantastic movie directed by Mike Judge,

1031
00:51:06,693 --> 00:51:10,453
Speaker 2: who also made off of Space Yes, and starring Luke Wilson,

1032
00:51:10,653 --> 00:51:15,493
Speaker 2: And it's based on the concept that that smart people

1033
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,973
Speaker 2: are having less children and dumb people having more and

1034
00:51:19,053 --> 00:51:22,772
Speaker 2: more children. Therefore, eventually a society will be selecting for

1035
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:26,373
Speaker 2: dumb people and the most average man alive in two

1036
00:51:26,413 --> 00:51:29,933
Speaker 2: thousand and five, through a series of comedic mistakes, ends

1037
00:51:29,973 --> 00:51:33,613
Speaker 2: up being frozen and waking up five hundred years later

1038
00:51:33,653 --> 00:51:37,053
Speaker 2: in an idiocracy. And I'll tell you what that movie

1039
00:51:37,093 --> 00:51:38,093
Speaker 2: was made in two thousand.

1040
00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:40,813
Speaker 3: And five and a little bit scary.

1041
00:51:40,893 --> 00:51:44,533
Speaker 2: How there's a lot of ideocracies coming true.

1042
00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:47,653
Speaker 3: Well worth the watch it as a comedy, but slightly scariest.

1043
00:51:47,693 --> 00:51:50,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, we may be living in an idiocracy. We may.

1044
00:51:51,293 --> 00:51:55,373
Speaker 3: Oh eighty ten eighty is the numbered call? Keith, how

1045
00:51:55,373 --> 00:51:56,173
Speaker 3: are you this afternoon?

1046
00:51:57,373 --> 00:51:57,533
Speaker 14: Good?

1047
00:51:57,573 --> 00:52:00,613
Speaker 20: Thank you. I just wanted to make a comment about

1048
00:52:00,693 --> 00:52:03,493
Speaker 20: the local government representation.

1049
00:52:03,813 --> 00:52:04,053
Speaker 2: Yep.

1050
00:52:05,053 --> 00:52:08,173
Speaker 20: I know the topic is about to turn out essentially

1051
00:52:08,453 --> 00:52:12,853
Speaker 20: that's right, but I'm far less concerned about that as

1052
00:52:12,853 --> 00:52:17,732
Speaker 20: opposed to the actual composition of councils, and from experience,

1053
00:52:18,053 --> 00:52:22,173
Speaker 20: I would say to you the critical thing is to

1054
00:52:22,493 --> 00:52:27,693
Speaker 20: have the right people appointed to the subcommittees, the various

1055
00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:32,173
Speaker 20: subcommittees which require real expertise, because unfortunately you get a

1056
00:52:32,173 --> 00:52:36,013
Speaker 20: lot of unqualified people and experienced people on those subcommittees

1057
00:52:36,493 --> 00:52:38,453
Speaker 20: who just start up to the task. And I think

1058
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:42,373
Speaker 20: that partly explains why you've got out of control councils

1059
00:52:42,413 --> 00:52:45,413
Speaker 20: all around New Zealand with excessive rates and a whole

1060
00:52:45,413 --> 00:52:46,413
Speaker 20: lot of other things going on.

1061
00:52:47,093 --> 00:52:51,453
Speaker 2: At How are people assigned to subcommittees at the moment? Keith?

1062
00:52:52,413 --> 00:52:55,813
Speaker 20: Well, generally you voted a council it might be seven

1063
00:52:55,893 --> 00:52:59,213
Speaker 20: or eight members, and then you go through those members

1064
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:04,973
Speaker 20: and the mayor will ask for people to represent the

1065
00:53:05,053 --> 00:53:11,453
Speaker 20: council on for example, audit, engineering or water or whatever

1066
00:53:11,853 --> 00:53:15,613
Speaker 20: case may be. Different councils have different subcommittees. Order, in

1067
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:18,973
Speaker 20: my experience is probably the most critical one because it

1068
00:53:19,013 --> 00:53:23,533
Speaker 20: controls the money and sets rates, recommends rates, and if

1069
00:53:23,573 --> 00:53:26,533
Speaker 20: you don't have the right people, and more often than not,

1070
00:53:26,733 --> 00:53:31,093
Speaker 20: these councils don't, I mean I've experienced that, you end

1071
00:53:31,173 --> 00:53:36,333
Speaker 20: up with a lack of expertise making recommendations that aren't

1072
00:53:36,373 --> 00:53:37,493
Speaker 20: necessarily good ones.

1073
00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:40,973
Speaker 2: So you've got a mayor looking at see you got

1074
00:53:40,973 --> 00:53:43,453
Speaker 2: a mayor looking at the councils like a stop to

1075
00:53:43,613 --> 00:53:46,172
Speaker 2: choose from from the subcommittee. So he's got to set

1076
00:53:46,213 --> 00:53:48,933
Speaker 2: group of people he has to choose from, and you know,

1077
00:53:49,133 --> 00:53:52,893
Speaker 2: for the random lottery of an election, we're less than

1078
00:53:53,173 --> 00:53:56,293
Speaker 2: you know, around thirty percent vote and some pretty crazy

1079
00:53:56,333 --> 00:53:59,453
Speaker 2: people get in there. He or she's got to then

1080
00:53:59,573 --> 00:54:02,573
Speaker 2: select from that of Paul to fill these subcommittees that

1081
00:54:02,613 --> 00:54:03,893
Speaker 2: are very very technical.

1082
00:54:05,053 --> 00:54:08,772
Speaker 20: Yeah it can be. And there are councils around us then,

1083
00:54:08,853 --> 00:54:11,373
Speaker 20: and I know a couple of them who have a point.

1084
00:54:11,413 --> 00:54:15,053
Speaker 20: As an independent chairperson well qualified out of audit New

1085
00:54:15,133 --> 00:54:18,812
Speaker 20: Zealand to actually chair the committee. Now that's a good move,

1086
00:54:19,413 --> 00:54:23,693
Speaker 20: but that person also needs support. You know, it wouldn't

1087
00:54:23,693 --> 00:54:26,933
Speaker 20: be much fun for him or her trying to get

1088
00:54:26,973 --> 00:54:31,733
Speaker 20: decisions on important technical matters when they have no ability

1089
00:54:31,813 --> 00:54:34,813
Speaker 20: to reader set of financial accounts as one example.

1090
00:54:34,973 --> 00:54:38,133
Speaker 3: Isn't that what the council staff are there for, Keith?

1091
00:54:38,173 --> 00:54:40,653
Speaker 3: And I'm not defending council staff here. That's a problem

1092
00:54:40,733 --> 00:54:43,973
Speaker 3: in itself as they're not elected people and sometimes managers

1093
00:54:44,013 --> 00:54:46,172
Speaker 3: are being in council for too long and they think

1094
00:54:46,173 --> 00:54:48,893
Speaker 3: they run the roost via you know, versus the councilors.

1095
00:54:49,253 --> 00:54:51,453
Speaker 3: But that's kind of their role, right, is that you've

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00:54:51,493 --> 00:54:54,933
Speaker 3: got the technical expertise within council that should be providing

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00:54:54,933 --> 00:54:55,413
Speaker 3: the advice.

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00:54:57,293 --> 00:55:01,213
Speaker 20: That is true in theory, and yes the council officers

1099
00:55:01,253 --> 00:55:04,253
Speaker 20: are supposed to be advising. But I will say to

1100
00:55:04,333 --> 00:55:09,453
Speaker 20: you based on experience that unfortunately the less of competency

1101
00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:16,093
Speaker 20: in certain areas is just absent. And you know, I mean,

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00:55:16,133 --> 00:55:18,693
Speaker 20: I can't do it now, but there's a lot of

1103
00:55:18,733 --> 00:55:22,093
Speaker 20: war stories I could tell you. What if you just

1104
00:55:22,173 --> 00:55:26,933
Speaker 20: compare central government, which relies on Treasury and other specialist

1105
00:55:26,973 --> 00:55:30,533
Speaker 20: parts of the bureaucracy, whatever you might think of it,

1106
00:55:30,933 --> 00:55:35,653
Speaker 20: to give advice to the government and buy a large

1107
00:55:35,813 --> 00:55:41,292
Speaker 20: government should maybe ad made up of competent people, not always.

1108
00:55:42,493 --> 00:55:46,253
Speaker 20: Then that is somewhat different to the way councils operate

1109
00:55:47,013 --> 00:55:52,333
Speaker 20: because there's no specialist department giving advice on matters that

1110
00:55:52,453 --> 00:55:56,373
Speaker 20: might relate to funding and accounting and so on and

1111
00:55:56,373 --> 00:55:56,893
Speaker 20: so forth.

1112
00:55:57,533 --> 00:55:59,453
Speaker 2: Just think it seems to get more and more sort

1113
00:55:59,493 --> 00:56:02,613
Speaker 2: of depressing when you look into the whole council situation,

1114
00:56:03,413 --> 00:56:07,373
Speaker 2: and it kind of starts to make sense why we're

1115
00:56:07,413 --> 00:56:10,373
Speaker 2: always shocked and surprise by the decisions that are made.

1116
00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:13,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, and good on people like Keith, who clearly sits

1117
00:56:13,413 --> 00:56:16,093
Speaker 3: in on some of those committees and raises objections, and

1118
00:56:16,133 --> 00:56:18,373
Speaker 3: that's a very good thing for an ordinary citizen to do.

1119
00:56:18,733 --> 00:56:20,813
Speaker 3: But most of us couldn't be bothered with that sort

1120
00:56:20,853 --> 00:56:21,172
Speaker 3: of crap.

1121
00:56:21,653 --> 00:56:21,773
Speaker 16: Uh.

1122
00:56:22,013 --> 00:56:23,933
Speaker 2: This texture on ninet two nine two says, I agree.

1123
00:56:24,013 --> 00:56:26,973
Speaker 2: I hate the orange bastard and his stupid dog. I

1124
00:56:27,053 --> 00:56:27,973
Speaker 2: find them offensive.

1125
00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:28,732
Speaker 3: They're pretty lame.

1126
00:56:28,853 --> 00:56:30,613
Speaker 2: I mean it would be I think the orange election

1127
00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:33,053
Speaker 2: election guy would be pretty good in a horror movie

1128
00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:36,853
Speaker 2: like the Orange Man. Something being chased around by that

1129
00:56:37,453 --> 00:56:41,413
Speaker 2: terrifying orange budget CG creation.

1130
00:56:41,653 --> 00:56:44,172
Speaker 3: There's something quite grotesque about him. Now now you mention it.

1131
00:56:44,613 --> 00:56:46,732
Speaker 3: O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1132
00:56:46,773 --> 00:56:48,493
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.

1133
00:56:48,653 --> 00:56:50,733
Speaker 2: In that movie Ideocracy that you've been talking about. The

1134
00:56:50,773 --> 00:56:53,692
Speaker 2: director wanted the alest's most stupid looking shoes that only

1135
00:56:53,733 --> 00:56:58,373
Speaker 2: stupid people would wear to represent an idiocracy. He chose crocs.

1136
00:56:58,933 --> 00:56:59,573
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1137
00:57:00,013 --> 00:57:02,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's another part of ideocracy that's come true.

1138
00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:03,133
Speaker 3: Oh we're doomed up.

1139
00:57:03,213 --> 00:57:04,893
Speaker 2: Everyone, including these were in crocs?

1140
00:57:04,933 --> 00:57:07,253
Speaker 3: Were your stuffed? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1141
00:57:07,253 --> 00:57:09,293
Speaker 3: the number to cour. It is ty six Pas.

1142
00:57:09,053 --> 00:57:16,773
Speaker 1: Two Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight

1143
00:57:16,893 --> 00:57:20,573
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZB you might.

1144
00:57:20,413 --> 00:57:23,133
Speaker 3: Have heard the high tuned row of high tech engines

1145
00:57:23,133 --> 00:57:25,773
Speaker 3: in the air. YEP, that can mean only one thing.

1146
00:57:26,253 --> 00:57:29,173
Speaker 2: The pinnacle of motorsport, Formula one is back this weekend,

1147
00:57:29,333 --> 00:57:32,333
Speaker 2: and naturally all eyes are on our very own Liam Lawsome,

1148
00:57:32,373 --> 00:57:35,053
Speaker 2: the keyw driver taking on the world's best. It'll be

1149
00:57:35,093 --> 00:57:37,453
Speaker 2: all action and you can get in on the action

1150
00:57:37,653 --> 00:57:40,173
Speaker 2: with the tab you bet.

1151
00:57:40,213 --> 00:57:43,453
Speaker 3: They are offering special five dollar boosted odds on Liam

1152
00:57:43,533 --> 00:57:46,493
Speaker 3: Lawson to win any race this Formula One season.

1153
00:57:46,813 --> 00:57:48,733
Speaker 2: So if you place a twenty dollar bet and he

1154
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:51,533
Speaker 2: wins any of the twenty four races across the year,

1155
00:57:51,573 --> 00:57:53,813
Speaker 2: you'll win one hundred dollars back.

1156
00:57:53,853 --> 00:57:57,373
Speaker 3: That's pretty good and it's definitely a podium worthy offer.

1157
00:57:57,413 --> 00:57:59,893
Speaker 3: But it's only available for a limited time.

1158
00:57:59,893 --> 00:58:03,093
Speaker 2: So make tracks to tab dot co dot in z

1159
00:58:03,333 --> 00:58:06,293
Speaker 2: to get your bet on maximum bet twenty dollars.

1160
00:58:06,133 --> 00:58:09,133
Speaker 3: That is one per customer tease and he's apply R

1161
00:58:09,213 --> 00:58:11,413
Speaker 3: eighteen bit responsibly.

1162
00:58:10,813 --> 00:58:13,213
Speaker 4: And go Liam News talk Siby.

1163
00:58:14,093 --> 00:58:17,173
Speaker 3: Right, we are talking about local body elections and how

1164
00:58:17,173 --> 00:58:19,293
Speaker 3: do we increase photo tune out because it is pretty

1165
00:58:19,413 --> 00:58:22,613
Speaker 3: woeful at the moment and a lot of abuse for

1166
00:58:22,933 --> 00:58:26,533
Speaker 3: orange Man. That's the advertising feller for the local as

1167
00:58:26,653 --> 00:58:27,293
Speaker 3: the general election.

1168
00:58:27,373 --> 00:58:29,773
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm wondering if orange Man is what's lowering

1169
00:58:29,853 --> 00:58:32,053
Speaker 2: the you know, the amount of people turning up to

1170
00:58:32,093 --> 00:58:34,213
Speaker 2: the polls in the national votes. So let's not move

1171
00:58:34,653 --> 00:58:37,013
Speaker 2: orange Man. Orange Man is not involved in local body

1172
00:58:37,093 --> 00:58:38,253
Speaker 2: is he? Orange Man?

1173
00:58:38,333 --> 00:58:38,813
Speaker 12: Does they?

1174
00:58:39,373 --> 00:58:42,333
Speaker 2: Orange Man and his punishing dog for local body elections.

1175
00:58:42,333 --> 00:58:43,453
Speaker 3: He's been around for a long time.

1176
00:58:43,893 --> 00:58:46,213
Speaker 2: He terrifies me, who do you guys got in a

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00:58:46,253 --> 00:58:50,053
Speaker 2: boxing match between the stick Guy versus Orange Man plus

1178
00:58:50,093 --> 00:58:52,453
Speaker 2: the dog. I mean, for Orange Man turns up with

1179
00:58:52,453 --> 00:58:53,933
Speaker 2: the dogs stick.

1180
00:58:53,773 --> 00:58:57,053
Speaker 3: Man guy, he's pretty sary sort of fella.

1181
00:58:57,133 --> 00:58:58,293
Speaker 2: Where did the Orange Man come from?

1182
00:58:58,333 --> 00:59:01,613
Speaker 3: I'm going to do some research on that. Graham. How

1183
00:59:01,613 --> 00:59:02,613
Speaker 3: are you this afternoon?

1184
00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:03,973
Speaker 7: Good?

1185
00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:04,173
Speaker 14: Hey?

1186
00:59:04,293 --> 00:59:05,253
Speaker 10: How are you? God?

1187
00:59:05,293 --> 00:59:06,293
Speaker 3: What do you reckon on this one?

1188
00:59:08,093 --> 00:59:13,013
Speaker 7: Three things? First of all, make everything four years, help

1189
00:59:13,093 --> 00:59:18,173
Speaker 7: the elections and the local bodies together. The cost lots

1190
00:59:18,253 --> 00:59:20,373
Speaker 7: less because you only need to do two papers if

1191
00:59:20,373 --> 00:59:21,813
Speaker 7: everybody turns up for the same day.

1192
00:59:22,093 --> 00:59:24,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying, Graham. Actually there's been a few

1193
00:59:24,173 --> 00:59:26,613
Speaker 2: techs saying this, and I actually meant to ask Nick

1194
00:59:26,613 --> 00:59:30,053
Speaker 2: Smith that very question. But has anyone thought about that.

1195
00:59:30,093 --> 00:59:32,213
Speaker 2: You're getting people to the poles, as you say, Graham,

1196
00:59:32,253 --> 00:59:36,013
Speaker 2: You're spending all that money on getting people there, and

1197
00:59:36,373 --> 00:59:38,453
Speaker 2: why not have them vote for their local body at

1198
00:59:38,453 --> 00:59:41,333
Speaker 2: the same time as the national elections?

1199
00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:45,613
Speaker 7: Correct, makes it a lot more super and nineteen nine

1200
00:59:45,573 --> 00:59:49,853
Speaker 7: potential people would turn up. As for the Orange Man,

1201
00:59:51,693 --> 00:59:56,493
Speaker 7: leave him where he is. You like everybody does a

1202
00:59:56,533 --> 00:59:56,973
Speaker 7: good job.

1203
00:59:57,253 --> 01:00:02,733
Speaker 3: You like Parliment doesn't scare the grandkids? Graham? Okay, fair enough.

1204
01:00:02,813 --> 01:00:04,773
Speaker 2: What about is dog Graham? You okay with this?

1205
01:00:06,093 --> 01:00:09,013
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, four four years? Put it together all together,

1206
01:00:09,093 --> 01:00:10,373
Speaker 7: four years and leave the Orange men.

1207
01:00:10,493 --> 01:00:12,533
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you for your cool Thank you

1208
01:00:12,653 --> 01:00:13,373
Speaker 2: very much.

1209
01:00:13,533 --> 01:00:14,013
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

1210
01:00:14,013 --> 01:00:16,013
Speaker 2: It's good to hear some positivity for the gram Man

1211
01:00:16,053 --> 01:00:19,253
Speaker 2: because the Orange Man, the gram Man, the Orange Man.

1212
01:00:19,453 --> 01:00:23,413
Speaker 2: So many ticks coming through with terrified nightmares around the

1213
01:00:23,413 --> 01:00:25,413
Speaker 2: Orange Man, a lot of abuse. People are scared to

1214
01:00:25,453 --> 01:00:27,213
Speaker 2: go to the booth just in case the Orange Man's there.

1215
01:00:28,693 --> 01:00:31,413
Speaker 2: Jumps out of the box and text you like penny Wise.

1216
01:00:31,733 --> 01:00:33,853
Speaker 3: I've done some research on the Orange Guy. So the

1217
01:00:33,893 --> 01:00:38,053
Speaker 3: first appearance was two thousand and nine, and his dog

1218
01:00:38,373 --> 01:00:41,733
Speaker 3: was modeled after a Jack Russell and a Doushound sausage dog.

1219
01:00:42,013 --> 01:00:43,293
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, well.

1220
01:00:43,533 --> 01:00:45,453
Speaker 3: Is that a dog of the people. Nothing against Jack Russells.

1221
01:00:45,453 --> 01:00:46,133
Speaker 3: I like Jack Russell.

1222
01:00:46,173 --> 01:00:48,053
Speaker 2: Well, I've got a mini Snails, a Jack Russell cross.

1223
01:00:48,053 --> 01:00:49,773
Speaker 2: It's fantastic dogs. I've got a lot of time for

1224
01:00:49,773 --> 01:00:52,293
Speaker 2: the Jack Russell. I'm actually coming on board with the dog.

1225
01:00:52,533 --> 01:00:54,773
Speaker 2: Still not on board with the Orange Man. And for

1226
01:00:54,773 --> 01:00:56,773
Speaker 2: all these people text thing, no not, We're not talking

1227
01:00:56,813 --> 01:00:58,813
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. When we talk about the Orange Man.

1228
01:00:58,853 --> 01:01:03,893
Speaker 2: We're talking about the election, the terrifying election, CGI monstrosity.

1229
01:01:03,293 --> 01:01:04,493
Speaker 3: The messcot orange guy.

1230
01:01:04,533 --> 01:01:05,053
Speaker 2: Look him up.

1231
01:01:05,173 --> 01:01:09,133
Speaker 3: Yeah he's horrible. Thank you very much for that discus. Right,

1232
01:01:09,173 --> 01:01:12,093
Speaker 3: we're going to change things up after headlines with Raylene.

1233
01:01:12,133 --> 01:01:14,653
Speaker 3: We want to talk about green bins on the bank

1234
01:01:14,693 --> 01:01:17,773
Speaker 3: of wangan Nui, saying see you later to their green bins.

1235
01:01:17,773 --> 01:01:19,373
Speaker 3: It's going to cost a little bit of money, but

1236
01:01:19,413 --> 01:01:22,453
Speaker 3: what is the point of these tiny little buckets for

1237
01:01:22,533 --> 01:01:24,493
Speaker 3: your food waste? Nobody uses them.

1238
01:01:24,933 --> 01:01:28,333
Speaker 2: They're like toy bins. They're like, you know, the supermarket

1239
01:01:28,333 --> 01:01:31,573
Speaker 2: for a while was doing those. You know, spend a

1240
01:01:31,573 --> 01:01:34,293
Speaker 2: bit and you get like little toy milk bottles and

1241
01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:37,133
Speaker 2: you get little toy different products.

1242
01:01:37,173 --> 01:01:38,053
Speaker 3: Cute but useless.

1243
01:01:38,093 --> 01:01:45,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, cute, cute but useless, I believe. And in my

1244
01:01:45,373 --> 01:01:49,213
Speaker 2: little area where I live, they put out forty rubbish

1245
01:01:49,213 --> 01:01:53,373
Speaker 2: bins and sometimes eighty when it's that week, and there's

1246
01:01:53,413 --> 01:01:56,293
Speaker 2: only two of those little green bins that were that

1247
01:01:56,373 --> 01:01:59,413
Speaker 2: were forced upon us for scraps.

1248
01:01:59,733 --> 01:02:00,853
Speaker 3: Do you shame those neighbors?

1249
01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:04,133
Speaker 2: I do not, But they're always on this side, those

1250
01:02:04,173 --> 01:02:07,493
Speaker 2: little bins, and I was just like, where is all

1251
01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:09,053
Speaker 2: the rest of them? And people just keeping them in

1252
01:02:09,093 --> 01:02:09,533
Speaker 2: their house.

1253
01:02:09,653 --> 01:02:09,893
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1254
01:02:09,973 --> 01:02:11,893
Speaker 2: I've heard of people that just put their little green

1255
01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:14,213
Speaker 2: bin in the blue bun and recycled.

1256
01:02:13,693 --> 01:02:16,053
Speaker 3: Them right because one of those people sitting in the

1257
01:02:16,093 --> 01:02:17,133
Speaker 3: studio right now.

1258
01:02:17,293 --> 01:02:21,173
Speaker 2: One of them is sitting in the studio right now.

1259
01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:22,853
Speaker 2: I recycled it for the good.

1260
01:02:23,533 --> 01:02:25,493
Speaker 3: So you did the right thing, kind of recyc the

1261
01:02:25,533 --> 01:02:26,373
Speaker 3: weet middle finger to the.

1262
01:02:26,373 --> 01:02:27,893
Speaker 2: Council green ben.

1263
01:02:28,013 --> 01:02:31,053
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred AC ten eighty is the number.

1264
01:02:31,133 --> 01:02:34,853
Speaker 3: Call nine two nine two is the text number. Headlines

1265
01:02:34,893 --> 01:02:37,373
Speaker 3: with Raylene coming out now.

1266
01:02:40,533 --> 01:02:41,333
Speaker 4: Jus talk said.

1267
01:02:41,413 --> 01:02:45,733
Speaker 16: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

1268
01:02:45,773 --> 01:02:49,093
Speaker 16: a blue bubble. Major talks are head for Foreign Minister

1269
01:02:49,173 --> 01:02:53,733
Speaker 16: Winston Peters as he heads to the US geopolitical instability

1270
01:02:53,853 --> 01:02:57,333
Speaker 16: and the budding trade war are likely to feature. The

1271
01:02:57,413 --> 01:03:00,533
Speaker 16: young girl killed in a train accident in Waikato's Matamatu

1272
01:03:00,653 --> 01:03:04,893
Speaker 16: yesterday has been named. She was thirteen year old Sari Morton,

1273
01:03:05,093 --> 01:03:09,813
Speaker 16: who had just started high school. Principles want the option

1274
01:03:09,893 --> 01:03:13,213
Speaker 16: to opt out of David Seymore's school lunch collective. A

1275
01:03:13,293 --> 01:03:16,533
Speaker 16: survey of Principles suggests US seven point five percent of

1276
01:03:16,653 --> 01:03:20,133
Speaker 16: one hundred and twenty respondents are satisfied. With the Lunches

1277
01:03:21,213 --> 01:03:23,333
Speaker 16: Police that are appealing for help from the public to

1278
01:03:23,413 --> 01:03:27,493
Speaker 16: find Perry Collins, who has a parole recall warrant. They

1279
01:03:27,493 --> 01:03:29,413
Speaker 16: believe the twenty eight year old may be in the

1280
01:03:29,413 --> 01:03:32,653
Speaker 16: wider West Auckland area, but is known to have connections

1281
01:03:32,693 --> 01:03:37,613
Speaker 16: in Northland. Another win for our tourism sector. Overseas visitor

1282
01:03:37,733 --> 01:03:41,333
Speaker 16: arrivals at more than three hundred and seventy thousand in January.

1283
01:03:41,733 --> 01:03:45,173
Speaker 16: That's an increase of nearly forty four thousand travelers on

1284
01:03:45,213 --> 01:03:50,773
Speaker 16: this time last year. Kee We Facebook insiders expose alleges

1285
01:03:50,893 --> 01:03:53,973
Speaker 16: bad behavior at the top. You can see more at

1286
01:03:53,973 --> 01:03:57,653
Speaker 16: Incid Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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01:03:57,173 --> 01:04:00,013
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Railing right. Let's talk about food

1288
01:04:00,053 --> 01:04:03,133
Speaker 3: waste collection bins. This is on the back of Wanganui.

1289
01:04:03,293 --> 01:04:06,733
Speaker 3: They have ditched their plans for the food waste collection service.

1290
01:04:08,053 --> 01:04:11,453
Speaker 3: An extraordinary meeting at the council stretching over two hours,

1291
01:04:11,573 --> 01:04:13,933
Speaker 3: it ended with a nine to four vote in favor

1292
01:04:13,973 --> 01:04:16,373
Speaker 3: of scrapping the service that was due to start in

1293
01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:19,533
Speaker 3: July this year. A report from the council Chief Executive

1294
01:04:19,653 --> 01:04:22,613
Speaker 3: said an opt in service for ratepayers was not viable

1295
01:04:22,693 --> 01:04:28,013
Speaker 3: due to uncertain uptake. But the food scraps curbside collection

1296
01:04:28,173 --> 01:04:32,413
Speaker 3: overall will cost This is, according to one of the councilors,

1297
01:04:32,453 --> 01:04:36,213
Speaker 3: sixteen one hundred dollars per ton of carbons saved versus

1298
01:04:36,253 --> 01:04:38,653
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty dollars for the same effect that

1299
01:04:38,853 --> 01:04:39,933
Speaker 3: is planting trees.

1300
01:04:41,213 --> 01:04:43,533
Speaker 2: And of these these those humiliating little green bins that

1301
01:04:43,533 --> 01:04:47,493
Speaker 2: we've got in Auckland, yeah, correct, exactly, miniature toy ones,

1302
01:04:47,573 --> 01:04:49,413
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and always on their side.

1303
01:04:49,533 --> 01:04:49,813
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1304
01:04:49,853 --> 01:04:52,453
Speaker 3: And so when I came up to Auckland in October

1305
01:04:52,533 --> 01:04:54,613
Speaker 3: last year and saw that little bin, I just thought

1306
01:04:54,653 --> 01:04:56,973
Speaker 3: that would belonged to the landlord and had left it behind.

1307
01:04:56,973 --> 01:04:58,773
Speaker 3: That was his little bucket that he got from Bunning's,

1308
01:04:58,813 --> 01:05:01,133
Speaker 3: and I thought, what is that for? Till I realized

1309
01:05:01,173 --> 01:05:03,413
Speaker 3: that apparently was for your food scraps that you put

1310
01:05:03,453 --> 01:05:05,093
Speaker 3: on the side of the row, and I thought, what

1311
01:05:05,133 --> 01:05:07,373
Speaker 3: madness is this? So I'm glad that wangan Nui has

1312
01:05:07,413 --> 01:05:10,453
Speaker 3: got rid of them. But down in christ Church they

1313
01:05:10,613 --> 01:05:13,973
Speaker 3: have a green bin that's actually a proper wheelly bin.

1314
01:05:14,413 --> 01:05:16,813
Speaker 3: It's about half the size of the recycling bin. It's

1315
01:05:17,213 --> 01:05:20,373
Speaker 3: big enough that you can put your grass clippings in it.

1316
01:05:20,613 --> 01:05:22,413
Speaker 3: If you're doing a bit of work around the garden.

1317
01:05:22,733 --> 01:05:25,093
Speaker 3: The food scraps goes in there and it gets picked

1318
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:27,613
Speaker 3: up on a weekly basis, and everybody loves it, not

1319
01:05:27,693 --> 01:05:29,213
Speaker 3: these dinky little buckets.

1320
01:05:29,413 --> 01:05:31,973
Speaker 2: Is that true? Is that true? Citizens of christ Church?

1321
01:05:32,013 --> 01:05:32,973
Speaker 2: Does everybody love them?

1322
01:05:33,053 --> 01:05:33,813
Speaker 3: Back me up here?

1323
01:05:33,973 --> 01:05:34,173
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1324
01:05:34,253 --> 01:05:35,493
Speaker 3: Citizens just seem.

1325
01:05:35,333 --> 01:05:37,693
Speaker 2: A lot more practical than the silly little toy ones

1326
01:05:38,053 --> 01:05:40,173
Speaker 2: for you, grated carrot or whatever.

1327
01:05:40,693 --> 01:05:43,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, and who does that really? I mean one a

1328
01:05:43,253 --> 01:05:45,773
Speaker 3: lot of people have in cinerators if they live in.

1329
01:05:45,693 --> 01:05:48,493
Speaker 2: A patast God, I love it encincreator so good, isn't it.

1330
01:05:48,573 --> 01:05:51,893
Speaker 2: It's cathartic, it's you know when you're cleaning up, you know,

1331
01:05:52,053 --> 01:05:54,773
Speaker 2: when you're cooking. I mean I almost prefer just the

1332
01:05:54,813 --> 01:05:57,653
Speaker 2: bit where I put the onion peels or the extra

1333
01:05:58,533 --> 01:06:02,613
Speaker 2: cutoffs down the syncreator then I do the cooking or eating.

1334
01:06:02,693 --> 01:06:03,253
Speaker 2: I just love it.

1335
01:06:03,853 --> 01:06:06,173
Speaker 3: And you get the kids around watch this, boys, This

1336
01:06:06,253 --> 01:06:07,973
Speaker 3: has got a mince the heck out of this bear.

1337
01:06:08,013 --> 01:06:09,933
Speaker 2: Boys, it's not quite that bad. But no, I do

1338
01:06:10,013 --> 01:06:11,213
Speaker 2: enjoy it. I thoroughly enjoy it.

1339
01:06:11,333 --> 01:06:13,293
Speaker 3: So a lot a lot of people in Aukland arguably

1340
01:06:13,373 --> 01:06:16,213
Speaker 3: have these insincorators. And if it's food scraps. I mean,

1341
01:06:16,253 --> 01:06:18,613
Speaker 3: do you want it stinking in these little buckets? For

1342
01:06:19,253 --> 01:06:21,533
Speaker 3: is it a week that it gets picked up? If

1343
01:06:21,973 --> 01:06:24,093
Speaker 3: every week in Auckland, and that was going to be

1344
01:06:24,133 --> 01:06:25,933
Speaker 3: the same in wangonu We but that is a long

1345
01:06:26,013 --> 01:06:28,773
Speaker 3: time to have stinking little bits of food scrap sit

1346
01:06:28,853 --> 01:06:31,493
Speaker 3: in a bucket. And as you mentioned, when you put

1347
01:06:31,493 --> 01:06:33,853
Speaker 3: it on the side of the road, quite like get

1348
01:06:33,893 --> 01:06:35,933
Speaker 3: picked up by the winds, get kicked around by kids,

1349
01:06:35,933 --> 01:06:36,853
Speaker 3: get kicked around by you.

1350
01:06:36,933 --> 01:06:41,093
Speaker 2: Matt. I'm not going around kicking.

1351
01:06:41,133 --> 01:06:43,253
Speaker 3: I could see that though, I could generally see you

1352
01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:43,773
Speaker 3: doing that.

1353
01:06:43,853 --> 01:06:46,973
Speaker 2: Although it would be quite fun to kick one. I reckon,

1354
01:06:47,253 --> 01:06:49,853
Speaker 2: I reckon. You could set up a couple of you

1355
01:06:49,853 --> 01:06:52,693
Speaker 2: could set up some posts with some of the other buns. Yeah,

1356
01:06:52,733 --> 01:06:55,133
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of you know, four recycling bins

1357
01:06:55,493 --> 01:06:57,413
Speaker 2: and a couple of just the normal waist bins and

1358
01:06:57,453 --> 01:06:59,613
Speaker 2: then kick one of the green ones through the through

1359
01:06:59,613 --> 01:07:02,533
Speaker 2: the posts, through the uprights. It would be quite fun.

1360
01:07:02,813 --> 01:07:04,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd get a good kick out of that one

1361
01:07:05,093 --> 01:07:07,493
Speaker 3: into that oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. The

1362
01:07:07,573 --> 01:07:10,013
Speaker 3: question we've got for you, it is as a time

1363
01:07:10,133 --> 01:07:12,013
Speaker 3: that councils up and down New Zealand and just keet

1364
01:07:12,093 --> 01:07:14,653
Speaker 3: rid of these dinky little buckets. And I would propose

1365
01:07:14,933 --> 01:07:17,933
Speaker 3: looking at what Christians does, get a proper weirly bin

1366
01:07:18,253 --> 01:07:20,293
Speaker 3: so that you can actually put your grass clippings and

1367
01:07:20,293 --> 01:07:22,053
Speaker 3: and everything else that you do in the garden, because

1368
01:07:22,053 --> 01:07:24,533
Speaker 3: that was my question when I'm doing the landlord's lawns

1369
01:07:24,573 --> 01:07:25,853
Speaker 3: at the moment, where the heck do I put the

1370
01:07:25,853 --> 01:07:27,453
Speaker 3: grass clippings? So I've just got to stay on the lawn.

1371
01:07:27,893 --> 01:07:29,373
Speaker 2: So they've got rid of them because they don't have

1372
01:07:29,413 --> 01:07:32,093
Speaker 2: to do this now, But in twenty twenty two when

1373
01:07:32,133 --> 01:07:34,453
Speaker 2: they made the decision to do it. At the time,

1374
01:07:34,773 --> 01:07:36,493
Speaker 2: there had been a signal that the government was going

1375
01:07:36,533 --> 01:07:40,333
Speaker 2: to mandate, but there had been no mandate at the point.

1376
01:07:40,373 --> 01:07:46,253
Speaker 2: So the government the you know, the federal government keeps saying,

1377
01:07:46,293 --> 01:07:52,733
Speaker 2: because I'm some boiled and America politics, but the central

1378
01:07:52,733 --> 01:07:55,053
Speaker 2: government was going to mandate that you had to have

1379
01:07:55,093 --> 01:07:58,453
Speaker 2: these little, punishing, humiliating little buns, which is an example

1380
01:07:58,453 --> 01:08:01,213
Speaker 2: of people trying to do good and then doing well

1381
01:08:01,213 --> 01:08:03,253
Speaker 2: what they perceived to be good, and then it ends

1382
01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:06,453
Speaker 2: up with all these they've forced people to have these

1383
01:08:06,533 --> 01:08:08,133
Speaker 2: useless buns because they haven't rely thought about how it's

1384
01:08:08,133 --> 01:08:10,013
Speaker 2: all going to work out, and the practicality is of

1385
01:08:10,093 --> 01:08:13,453
Speaker 2: human nature and such, and as a result, it's slowly

1386
01:08:13,493 --> 01:08:15,253
Speaker 2: over the country they're all going to be removed away,

1387
01:08:15,733 --> 01:08:18,692
Speaker 2: removed and then thrown out. Yeah, and so what good

1388
01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:19,293
Speaker 2: has that done?

1389
01:08:19,452 --> 01:08:22,612
Speaker 3: And just going to your point there about wanting to

1390
01:08:22,653 --> 01:08:25,052
Speaker 3: do something that you think is good and it turns

1391
01:08:25,093 --> 01:08:28,173
Speaker 3: out it's not that good. This quote from the Wanging

1392
01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:31,213
Speaker 3: to Eat Deputy Mayor Halling Craig, a food scraps curb

1393
01:08:31,253 --> 01:08:34,253
Speaker 3: side collection overall was going to cost sixteen hundred dollars

1394
01:08:34,293 --> 01:08:38,012
Speaker 3: per ton of carbon saved versus one hundred and twenty

1395
01:08:38,013 --> 01:08:40,652
Speaker 3: dollars for the same effect planting trees. I mean it

1396
01:08:40,692 --> 01:08:43,732
Speaker 3: was nonsense. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighties the number

1397
01:08:43,732 --> 01:08:44,053
Speaker 3: to call.

1398
01:08:44,333 --> 01:08:47,052
Speaker 2: Yes, christ Chitch does love the green bins.

1399
01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:47,772
Speaker 3: There you go.

1400
01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:51,253
Speaker 2: And in syncarators are bad for the environment, Is that true? Well,

1401
01:08:51,572 --> 01:08:53,892
Speaker 2: must have been a mushed up carrot going down the

1402
01:08:54,013 --> 01:08:56,892
Speaker 2: v to the ocean, but down those food down the pipes. Yeah,

1403
01:08:57,053 --> 01:08:59,772
Speaker 2: that's so bad, all right, love to hear from Sure

1404
01:08:59,772 --> 01:09:01,892
Speaker 2: someone will come back on it. Is this so our

1405
01:09:01,933 --> 01:09:03,812
Speaker 2: in sinnc creator? Is that bad? Okay?

1406
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:06,612
Speaker 3: I have heard that, but I need rationale about why

1407
01:09:06,612 --> 01:09:08,213
Speaker 3: they're so bad for the environment. If it's just a

1408
01:09:08,333 --> 01:09:10,492
Speaker 3: bit of fish food going into the ocean, what's the problem.

1409
01:09:10,492 --> 01:09:12,372
Speaker 2: You can take my own sincreator out of my cold

1410
01:09:12,372 --> 01:09:12,812
Speaker 2: dead hand.

1411
01:09:14,372 --> 01:09:16,573
Speaker 3: Ninetio is the text number. It's eighteen to three.

1412
01:09:17,652 --> 01:09:21,093
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

1413
01:09:21,412 --> 01:09:22,493
Speaker 1: everything in between.

1414
01:09:22,692 --> 01:09:25,372
Speaker 4: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo.

1415
01:09:25,333 --> 01:09:28,452
Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort

1416
01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:29,453
Speaker 1: news talks.

1417
01:09:29,173 --> 01:09:33,093
Speaker 3: There'd be good afternoon. It's quarter two three. We have

1418
01:09:33,173 --> 01:09:36,293
Speaker 3: been talking about these little dinky food waste bins that

1419
01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:39,092
Speaker 3: the councils have been implementing up and down the country.

1420
01:09:39,133 --> 01:09:41,293
Speaker 3: Wogan we had enough and said nah, we don't want them.

1421
01:09:41,452 --> 01:09:43,213
Speaker 3: Still cost them a bit of money actually, because they

1422
01:09:43,253 --> 01:09:46,892
Speaker 3: started the process. So the sunk costs were three trucks

1423
01:09:47,093 --> 01:09:50,652
Speaker 3: that they've already purchased, three specialized waste collection truck bodies,

1424
01:09:50,893 --> 01:09:53,812
Speaker 3: and a partial production run of twenty three letter curbside

1425
01:09:53,812 --> 01:09:55,172
Speaker 3: bins and kitchen caddies.

1426
01:09:55,333 --> 01:09:57,893
Speaker 2: But there was just so lame o that it was

1427
01:09:57,933 --> 01:10:00,093
Speaker 2: worth getting rid of them, yeah, rather than continuing it.

1428
01:10:00,293 --> 01:10:02,772
Speaker 2: And we want to differentiate this from so We're talking

1429
01:10:02,772 --> 01:10:06,732
Speaker 2: about the tiny, little humiliating green waistbins, not these the

1430
01:10:06,772 --> 01:10:08,572
Speaker 2: cool ones that you're describing on christ Use and I'm

1431
01:10:08,572 --> 01:10:11,092
Speaker 2: not fully familiar with which are for your glass, grass

1432
01:10:11,133 --> 01:10:14,053
Speaker 2: clippings and stuff and much bigger as this text here

1433
01:10:14,173 --> 01:10:16,532
Speaker 2: high on from Kaipoi, and like christ Church, we have

1434
01:10:16,652 --> 01:10:19,492
Speaker 2: the same green bins. And yes we love them and

1435
01:10:19,532 --> 01:10:22,093
Speaker 2: we always will. We love them so much. They are

1436
01:10:22,093 --> 01:10:22,732
Speaker 2: so beautiful.

1437
01:10:22,732 --> 01:10:25,173
Speaker 3: From Liz, Yeah they are. They're just so handy and

1438
01:10:25,213 --> 01:10:27,173
Speaker 3: I don't know why you don't have them up and

1439
01:10:27,173 --> 01:10:28,213
Speaker 3: down the country. It's crazy.

1440
01:10:28,572 --> 01:10:30,852
Speaker 2: And syncarator is a fine for the environment, says this text.

1441
01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:32,293
Speaker 2: Are on nine two nine to two, but don't put

1442
01:10:32,333 --> 01:10:35,692
Speaker 2: onion skins down them, so like I need more information,

1443
01:10:35,772 --> 01:10:38,013
Speaker 2: please thanks Tony for that text. Wikee up because I

1444
01:10:38,333 --> 01:10:39,692
Speaker 2: am putting onion skins down there.

1445
01:10:39,692 --> 01:10:41,852
Speaker 3: It's quite mysterious and daunting that you don't put onion

1446
01:10:41,893 --> 01:10:43,972
Speaker 3: skins down there. I thought onion skins would be really

1447
01:10:44,013 --> 01:10:44,652
Speaker 3: good for I.

1448
01:10:44,692 --> 01:10:47,093
Speaker 2: Tell you what you don't do, Tyler, Yeah, don't put

1449
01:10:47,093 --> 01:10:48,652
Speaker 2: a whole chicken down there. I tried to force the

1450
01:10:48,652 --> 01:10:51,253
Speaker 2: whole chicken down there, and the actual and cincreator actually

1451
01:10:52,412 --> 01:10:54,812
Speaker 2: broke and fell off and went bang on the ground

1452
01:10:54,893 --> 01:10:58,053
Speaker 2: underneath the sink. It actually it actually couldn't handle it

1453
01:10:58,053 --> 01:10:59,253
Speaker 2: to the point where it just went golm.

1454
01:10:59,612 --> 01:11:01,973
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, but do you need instructions for that?

1455
01:11:02,093 --> 01:11:03,652
Speaker 3: Why did you have to put a whole chicken through

1456
01:11:03,652 --> 01:11:04,573
Speaker 3: the incincarator?

1457
01:11:04,692 --> 01:11:06,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a live chicken tick.

1458
01:11:07,973 --> 01:11:13,293
Speaker 3: It was oh a hundred and aco get a prakish?

1459
01:11:13,452 --> 01:11:13,972
Speaker 2: How are you?

1460
01:11:14,893 --> 01:11:15,492
Speaker 10: I am good?

1461
01:11:15,572 --> 01:11:15,772
Speaker 21: Mite?

1462
01:11:15,772 --> 01:11:17,532
Speaker 3: How are you good? What do you reckon about these

1463
01:11:17,532 --> 01:11:18,852
Speaker 3: little food waste puns?

1464
01:11:19,812 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 21: It's a complete disaster, mate, Like I live here and

1465
01:11:23,293 --> 01:11:26,852
Speaker 21: fled Bush near the Ormiston College, and it's a heavily

1466
01:11:26,893 --> 01:11:30,732
Speaker 21: populated area, and maybe I'm the only one who was

1467
01:11:31,492 --> 01:11:34,333
Speaker 21: using it, and the rest of them they don't even

1468
01:11:34,412 --> 01:11:39,772
Speaker 21: bora And when it's summertime, the flies get inside there,

1469
01:11:39,853 --> 01:11:42,852
Speaker 21: they lay their eggs, and the meggots come in and

1470
01:11:42,893 --> 01:11:47,253
Speaker 21: then you can't stand the smell, mate, So I've stopped

1471
01:11:47,372 --> 01:11:47,852
Speaker 21: using it.

1472
01:11:48,093 --> 01:11:50,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think in a place like Auckland,

1473
01:11:50,452 --> 01:11:54,372
Speaker 3: which is a lot more humid, it's pretty crazy. Leave

1474
01:11:54,372 --> 01:11:54,972
Speaker 3: it for a week.

1475
01:11:55,812 --> 01:11:56,012
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1476
01:11:56,053 --> 01:11:58,652
Speaker 21: And the other thing, I have lived in Cromwell's South

1477
01:11:58,692 --> 01:12:02,413
Speaker 21: Island for a while. I think it's a small population.

1478
01:12:02,612 --> 01:12:05,812
Speaker 21: They are doing it much better than these Oakland guys

1479
01:12:06,053 --> 01:12:08,812
Speaker 21: who can't even think, you know, And like you said,

1480
01:12:09,333 --> 01:12:12,812
Speaker 21: like christis they also have a green large bin where

1481
01:12:12,853 --> 01:12:17,813
Speaker 21: you can throw your food waste, your loanmower cuttings, or

1482
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:21,893
Speaker 21: your trees prunings, everything and it all goes to compost,

1483
01:12:21,933 --> 01:12:22,133
Speaker 21: you know.

1484
01:12:22,652 --> 01:12:26,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, and burs and Auckland you have to apply for that,

1485
01:12:26,612 --> 01:12:29,092
Speaker 2: you have to request that and pay pay some money

1486
01:12:29,093 --> 01:12:32,013
Speaker 2: for it. But it's kind of a different situation than

1487
01:12:32,093 --> 01:12:35,333
Speaker 2: christ because there's so many apartment buildings in Auckland.

1488
01:12:35,572 --> 01:12:39,412
Speaker 21: So you know, I'm talking about Cromwell in South Island.

1489
01:12:39,372 --> 01:12:41,293
Speaker 3: All right, they do the same there. They've got an

1490
01:12:41,372 --> 01:12:43,532
Speaker 3: extra proper green wheeliban.

1491
01:12:43,532 --> 01:12:47,812
Speaker 21: Yes, yes, in fact they have four large beans. One

1492
01:12:47,933 --> 01:12:51,093
Speaker 21: is for like food waste and the grass cuttings and

1493
01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:54,372
Speaker 21: the plants and other stuff, and one is purely formed

1494
01:12:54,572 --> 01:12:57,933
Speaker 21: the glass stuff, and the other one is for cardboard

1495
01:12:58,013 --> 01:13:01,812
Speaker 21: and plastic, and then a small red bin for other

1496
01:13:01,933 --> 01:13:02,812
Speaker 21: general waste.

1497
01:13:02,933 --> 01:13:03,093
Speaker 17: Well.

1498
01:13:03,372 --> 01:13:08,812
Speaker 2: Chromewell's pro big properties down in Chromeo, beautiful spot, giant

1499
01:13:08,853 --> 01:13:09,572
Speaker 2: fruit down there.

1500
01:13:09,732 --> 01:13:12,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, lifestyle blocks, a lot of lifestyle blocks.

1501
01:13:12,452 --> 01:13:14,932
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm talking about the town.

1502
01:13:15,572 --> 01:13:17,412
Speaker 2: Ok, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but they've still

1503
01:13:17,412 --> 01:13:20,652
Speaker 2: got Yeah, but they've still got larger sections than you'll

1504
01:13:20,692 --> 01:13:24,852
Speaker 2: generally have in Auckland. Yeah, so a bigger opportunity actually

1505
01:13:24,933 --> 01:13:25,652
Speaker 2: most some lawns.

1506
01:13:25,973 --> 01:13:27,492
Speaker 3: But just pick it up on your point, mat I

1507
01:13:27,532 --> 01:13:29,253
Speaker 3: think that's a fair one that in a place like

1508
01:13:29,333 --> 01:13:33,492
Speaker 3: christ Church and certainly Cromwell, there are primarily residential homes

1509
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:35,013
Speaker 3: that have got a bit of a section up here

1510
01:13:35,013 --> 01:13:38,372
Speaker 3: in Auckland very different, a lot more apartments. So is

1511
01:13:38,412 --> 01:13:42,892
Speaker 3: it fear to charge everybody for the so called green

1512
01:13:42,933 --> 01:13:44,932
Speaker 3: wheelibin if not everybody can use it?

1513
01:13:46,492 --> 01:13:49,052
Speaker 21: Yeah, but like this, this small one is a complete disaster.

1514
01:13:49,213 --> 01:13:50,253
Speaker 21: I tell what he's using it?

1515
01:13:50,333 --> 01:13:51,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can agree.

1516
01:13:51,412 --> 01:13:53,492
Speaker 2: Well, well some people are using it progression than a

1517
01:13:53,532 --> 01:13:55,053
Speaker 2: lot of people here texting through that say they use

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01:13:55,093 --> 01:13:57,732
Speaker 2: it to keep the kids lego in it. So apparently

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01:13:57,732 --> 01:14:00,973
Speaker 2: it's very handywise you didn't think about that before you

1520
01:14:01,013 --> 01:14:04,452
Speaker 2: recycled yours toys? People keeping tuppleware in it. It's useful

1521
01:14:04,452 --> 01:14:07,333
Speaker 2: in some regards, but not for its intended purpose. It

1522
01:14:07,333 --> 01:14:10,492
Speaker 2: wouldn't seem we haven't seen a single person that supports

1523
01:14:10,492 --> 01:14:14,293
Speaker 2: the little ones so much support for the larger ones.

1524
01:14:14,293 --> 01:14:17,013
Speaker 2: In christ Church. Yeah, and the ones in Cromwell like

1525
01:14:17,173 --> 01:14:21,333
Speaker 2: Precissa was talking about the Inceyncorator. Mystery continues because Michelle

1526
01:14:21,372 --> 01:14:23,572
Speaker 2: just said, Hi guys, Yep, that texture is right. No

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01:14:23,692 --> 01:14:27,133
Speaker 2: onion skins and no banana skins. Absolute no goes with

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01:14:27,173 --> 01:14:28,372
Speaker 2: the waste disposal units.

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01:14:28,492 --> 01:14:30,892
Speaker 3: Again, why I.

1530
01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:33,892
Speaker 2: Think I don't like a banana skin. I would never

1531
01:14:33,933 --> 01:14:36,252
Speaker 2: put that down there. That's going to reget it with it. Yeah,

1532
01:14:36,293 --> 01:14:38,133
Speaker 2: but I don't know onion skins were a problem. So

1533
01:14:38,692 --> 01:14:41,492
Speaker 2: onion skins an environmental problem? Or are they a problem

1534
01:14:41,572 --> 01:14:45,133
Speaker 2: for the workings of the waste disposal unit. That's the

1535
01:14:45,133 --> 01:14:47,213
Speaker 2: big question that I need the answer to. On nine

1536
01:14:47,253 --> 01:14:51,412
Speaker 2: two nine two or eight hundred eighty ten eighty or so,

1537
01:14:51,572 --> 01:14:53,852
Speaker 2: talking about what you think about, Well, they're never getting

1538
01:14:53,933 --> 01:14:59,412
Speaker 2: rid of those little green bins for food waste, and

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01:14:59,532 --> 01:15:01,012
Speaker 2: you know whether we should get rid of them everywhere?

1540
01:15:01,093 --> 01:15:02,812
Speaker 3: Yep, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighties. Then I'm

1541
01:15:02,812 --> 01:15:04,892
Speaker 3: going to call ten two three.

1542
01:15:05,532 --> 01:15:07,932
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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01:15:07,973 --> 01:15:08,612
Speaker 4: along the way.

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01:15:08,853 --> 01:15:13,333
Speaker 1: Matten Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo x Naty Innovation, Style

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01:15:13,452 --> 01:15:15,692
Speaker 1: and Design, Have it All News Talk.

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01:15:15,572 --> 01:15:19,572
Speaker 3: Zed B, News Talk zed B we're talking about these

1547
01:15:19,652 --> 01:15:23,172
Speaker 3: food disposal bins that councils up and down the country

1548
01:15:23,253 --> 01:15:26,732
Speaker 3: have started dishing out to residents. Apart from Wanganui, they

1549
01:15:26,893 --> 01:15:29,093
Speaker 3: realized it was a silly idea and of candids.

1550
01:15:29,173 --> 01:15:31,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're humilility in those little wins. Although we're getting

1551
01:15:31,492 --> 01:15:33,133
Speaker 2: a bit of love coming through for them, so you know,

1552
01:15:33,133 --> 01:15:34,333
Speaker 2: we'll show the other side.

1553
01:15:34,053 --> 01:15:34,772
Speaker 3: Of the story.

1554
01:15:35,412 --> 01:15:36,932
Speaker 2: Just because they don't work for me, it doesn't mean

1555
01:15:36,973 --> 01:15:39,173
Speaker 2: they don't work for some people. Okay, But I would

1556
01:15:39,173 --> 01:15:41,372
Speaker 2: say that the amount of them that you're seeing out

1557
01:15:41,372 --> 01:15:45,173
Speaker 2: of the street now very very small percentage of the

1558
01:15:45,213 --> 01:15:47,253
Speaker 2: other type of bins that are out there, high team,

1559
01:15:47,372 --> 01:15:49,372
Speaker 2: very simple. Google what not to put in the waste

1560
01:15:49,372 --> 01:15:52,412
Speaker 2: disposal Also tossing some ice cubes into it can help

1561
01:15:52,652 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 2: clean it and sharpen the blades. Look, I don't google anymore.

1562
01:15:55,933 --> 01:15:58,412
Speaker 2: I just ask people to text through the information on

1563
01:15:58,492 --> 01:16:00,412
Speaker 2: nine two nine two, and it keeps my fingers nice

1564
01:16:00,452 --> 01:16:04,892
Speaker 2: and I get terrible, terrible chafing and on my fingers.

1565
01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:07,452
Speaker 2: It's a danger there from having to goggle. Ey, it's

1566
01:16:07,532 --> 01:16:11,333
Speaker 2: much easier, just a it's like having like an alixa

1567
01:16:11,412 --> 01:16:12,412
Speaker 2: high hive mind.

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01:16:12,532 --> 01:16:12,772
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1569
01:16:12,853 --> 01:16:14,652
Speaker 2: Well, someone always knows the answer.

1570
01:16:14,692 --> 01:16:17,253
Speaker 3: The sticks. Get a guys on a plumber onion skin,

1571
01:16:17,412 --> 01:16:19,372
Speaker 3: sweet as whole chickens not so much.

1572
01:16:19,492 --> 01:16:22,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that chicken agreed the checked that whole

1573
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:24,532
Speaker 2: checken I put through the waste disposal wasn't happy about

1574
01:16:24,572 --> 01:16:26,532
Speaker 2: it either. That's maybe where it blew out the bottom

1575
01:16:26,572 --> 01:16:29,612
Speaker 2: and smeshed into the bottom of my cupboard.

1576
01:16:29,692 --> 01:16:31,572
Speaker 3: Oh, that's the And how much gunk and stuff was

1577
01:16:31,572 --> 01:16:33,652
Speaker 3: on the floor. That just would have been an absolute mess.

1578
01:16:33,692 --> 01:16:36,213
Speaker 3: It wasn't cool, man, It wasn't plumber would have been happy.

1579
01:16:36,253 --> 01:16:37,052
Speaker 2: I'm still recovering.

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01:16:37,173 --> 01:16:37,333
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:16:37,492 --> 01:16:39,372
Speaker 3: Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten eighties and numbered

1582
01:16:39,412 --> 01:16:40,173
Speaker 3: called get a grunt.

1583
01:16:41,133 --> 01:16:42,452
Speaker 10: Hey, you guys here, you're going god.

1584
01:16:42,492 --> 01:16:44,492
Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about waste disposal units?

1585
01:16:45,133 --> 01:16:45,333
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1586
01:16:45,452 --> 01:16:48,812
Speaker 22: Yeah, your your waste disposal Like okay, so what happens

1587
01:16:49,492 --> 01:16:51,972
Speaker 22: when you when you chuck your food waste or worried

1588
01:16:52,013 --> 01:16:55,892
Speaker 22: with downy waste disposal? Yeah, excuse me. Basically, you use

1589
01:16:55,933 --> 01:16:58,972
Speaker 22: a truckload of water, a truckload of resources. You you're

1590
01:16:59,013 --> 01:17:01,293
Speaker 22: mushard all up, you're flush it all the way. But

1591
01:17:01,452 --> 01:17:03,932
Speaker 22: basically it's gray water, so it goes to your pump station.

1592
01:17:04,053 --> 01:17:06,853
Speaker 22: From pump station to pump station along with any swerage,

1593
01:17:07,053 --> 01:17:09,012
Speaker 22: and it makes it all or way all the way

1594
01:17:09,053 --> 01:17:12,652
Speaker 22: to a sewage treatment plant. Then they'll strain it, they'll

1595
01:17:12,692 --> 01:17:14,812
Speaker 22: they'll take it out, they'll put it in a truck,

1596
01:17:14,893 --> 01:17:17,053
Speaker 22: they'll compact it and then they'll take it us to

1597
01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:19,492
Speaker 22: a refuge station and bury it in the ground. So

1598
01:17:19,572 --> 01:17:21,452
Speaker 22: for what it's worth, you might well just chuck it

1599
01:17:21,492 --> 01:17:22,973
Speaker 22: straight in the rubbish and it goes straight to.

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01:17:23,053 --> 01:17:26,173
Speaker 6: The refuge station, as opposed.

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01:17:25,772 --> 01:17:30,093
Speaker 22: To using a truckload of resources and commodities and stuff.

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01:17:29,853 --> 01:17:30,452
Speaker 13: To get it there.

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01:17:30,772 --> 01:17:35,733
Speaker 22: So it's probably uneconomical viable. Some people would call it convenient,

1604
01:17:35,853 --> 01:17:38,612
Speaker 22: But as I say, chuck it straight in the rubbish mate,

1605
01:17:38,612 --> 01:17:39,532
Speaker 22: that will get there quicker.

1606
01:17:39,692 --> 01:17:41,852
Speaker 2: So what do you think about these little green bins

1607
01:17:41,853 --> 01:17:44,492
Speaker 2: that we've been talking about, you know, the little food

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01:17:44,532 --> 01:17:47,333
Speaker 2: scrap bins, Because that involves you then put them in there,

1609
01:17:47,372 --> 01:17:48,893
Speaker 2: they go out on the street. Then a truck, a

1610
01:17:48,973 --> 01:17:51,412
Speaker 2: specialized truck comes and grabs them. And then what do

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01:17:51,452 --> 01:17:53,212
Speaker 2: they do with those? Just take them to the landfill

1612
01:17:53,253 --> 01:17:53,572
Speaker 2: as well.

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01:17:54,333 --> 01:17:55,173
Speaker 9: Well, I'm not.

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01:17:55,133 --> 01:17:57,053
Speaker 22: Sure what happens now. I mean, obviously you've got to

1615
01:17:57,093 --> 01:17:59,532
Speaker 22: get the numbers. It's got to be economically bible. I mean,

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01:17:59,732 --> 01:18:01,892
Speaker 22: I just got there from Korea a while ago because

1617
01:18:02,612 --> 01:18:04,252
Speaker 22: my daughter and the son.

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01:18:03,973 --> 01:18:04,932
Speaker 20: And I'll live over there.

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01:18:04,933 --> 01:18:08,173
Speaker 22: Well they're just coming back, but anyway, they they're gone recycling.

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01:18:08,532 --> 01:18:13,732
Speaker 22: Like you don't just recycle glass and food scrapts that they

1621
01:18:13,732 --> 01:18:18,132
Speaker 22: recycle glass plastic paper. They separate the glass into different colors.

1622
01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:21,053
Speaker 22: They're massively big on it. How this system works, I

1623
01:18:21,053 --> 01:18:24,652
Speaker 22: han't no, but yeah, you get shone upon if you

1624
01:18:25,053 --> 01:18:26,932
Speaker 22: chuck a green bottle in with a white bottle.

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01:18:27,173 --> 01:18:27,372
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:18:27,372 --> 01:18:31,372
Speaker 2: They're advanced over there. Yeah, the junta, they've taken control

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01:18:31,412 --> 01:18:34,052
Speaker 2: of anything. Hey, should keep this discussion going because we're

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01:18:34,053 --> 01:18:35,852
Speaker 2: going to change topics. But there's so many texts and

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01:18:35,853 --> 01:18:37,293
Speaker 2: calls coming through. Shall we keep it going?

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01:18:37,333 --> 01:18:40,932
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're getting deep into in syncorated chat. Well that's

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01:18:40,973 --> 01:18:42,732
Speaker 3: the brand name waste disposal unit.

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01:18:42,853 --> 01:18:44,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'd like to say, read out some of

1633
01:18:44,692 --> 01:18:47,012
Speaker 2: this positive stuff and take some of these positive calls

1634
01:18:47,013 --> 01:18:49,053
Speaker 2: on the little green bins that I've been running down

1635
01:18:49,133 --> 01:18:50,613
Speaker 2: so so nastily.

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01:18:50,692 --> 01:18:51,772
Speaker 3: It's good to get some balance.

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01:18:51,772 --> 01:18:53,372
Speaker 2: So eight hundred, I mean, I'm not going to change

1638
01:18:53,412 --> 01:18:54,973
Speaker 2: my mind, but that story I can't wait to hear

1639
01:18:55,013 --> 01:18:55,293
Speaker 2: the calls.

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01:18:55,372 --> 01:18:58,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight ten eighty is the number to call. Love

1641
01:18:58,412 --> 01:19:00,932
Speaker 3: to hear from your news sport and where they're coming

1642
01:19:01,013 --> 01:19:03,492
Speaker 3: up next. You're listening to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

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01:19:03,133 --> 01:19:09,892
Speaker 1: To you your new home for insafe, full and Entertaining talk.

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01:19:10,053 --> 01:19:14,333
Speaker 1: It's Mattia and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC

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01:19:14,532 --> 01:19:17,973
Speaker 1: ninety on News Talk sev Good Afternoons.

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01:19:17,973 --> 01:19:19,772
Speaker 3: You welcome back into the show. And we have been

1647
01:19:19,812 --> 01:19:24,092
Speaker 3: talking about food waste collection services, those little dinky bins

1648
01:19:24,652 --> 01:19:26,652
Speaker 3: food waste bins that have been delivered up and down

1649
01:19:26,692 --> 01:19:31,053
Speaker 3: the country by Council's to residents. Wangan Nui said at

1650
01:19:31,093 --> 01:19:33,213
Speaker 3: the last minute they weren't going to have that service.

1651
01:19:33,253 --> 01:19:35,852
Speaker 3: It originally was going to cost households around eighty bucks

1652
01:19:35,893 --> 01:19:39,333
Speaker 3: a year. After they've canceled it though due to sunk costs,

1653
01:19:39,333 --> 01:19:41,333
Speaker 3: there will be a charge of around seventeen bucks a year.

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01:19:41,372 --> 01:19:43,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the decision follows a government policy reversal on

1655
01:19:43,973 --> 01:19:46,973
Speaker 2: December eighteenth last year, ending a mandate to have the

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01:19:47,053 --> 01:19:51,733
Speaker 2: service in place by twenty twenty seven. So it was mandated,

1657
01:19:51,772 --> 01:19:53,612
Speaker 2: but it was going to be mandated, but it isn't

1658
01:19:54,452 --> 01:19:59,532
Speaker 2: any more and no one was using them. So it's

1659
01:19:59,572 --> 01:20:04,772
Speaker 2: not really a loss. But I have to look there's

1660
01:20:04,812 --> 01:20:08,133
Speaker 2: a raft of texts coming through now and support of them.

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01:20:08,412 --> 01:20:10,492
Speaker 3: Bit of a pushback. There's a bit of pushback, which

1662
01:20:10,532 --> 01:20:12,093
Speaker 3: is good. That's what we like here. We look it

1663
01:20:12,093 --> 01:20:13,452
Speaker 3: a little bit of pushback.

1664
01:20:13,093 --> 01:20:15,772
Speaker 2: On my overtly demonstrative attack on them.

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01:20:16,013 --> 01:20:18,173
Speaker 3: And you're going to say your piece shortly, but can't

1666
01:20:18,213 --> 01:20:20,252
Speaker 3: just read out this one. It's quite strong, it's passionate.

1667
01:20:20,372 --> 01:20:21,213
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to hear it.

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01:20:21,253 --> 01:20:22,652
Speaker 3: See get a Tyler, Matt.

1669
01:20:22,612 --> 01:20:24,173
Speaker 2: If it's strong and passionate because you read it out

1670
01:20:24,173 --> 01:20:26,133
Speaker 2: in a strong and passionate voice, please Tyler.

1671
01:20:25,893 --> 01:20:28,572
Speaker 3: Get a Tyler and Matt. I wonder how you two

1672
01:20:29,173 --> 01:20:31,692
Speaker 3: get on with the other aspects of your recycling and

1673
01:20:31,772 --> 01:20:34,932
Speaker 3: our household. We have six adults and we only put

1674
01:20:34,973 --> 01:20:37,692
Speaker 3: out one times forty liter bucket of waste that we

1675
01:20:37,772 --> 01:20:40,772
Speaker 3: can't use each week. All of our soft plastics get recycled,

1676
01:20:40,812 --> 01:20:43,732
Speaker 3: our bottles, our tins, and our food scraps going out

1677
01:20:44,013 --> 01:20:46,333
Speaker 3: in our little bins that you're talking about. We are

1678
01:20:46,372 --> 01:20:49,772
Speaker 3: trying to help create a sustainable environment. Do you think

1679
01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:52,612
Speaker 3: with your laziness that you're trying to help us create

1680
01:20:52,652 --> 01:20:55,293
Speaker 3: a sustainable environment? I don't think so you need to

1681
01:20:55,372 --> 01:20:58,092
Speaker 3: buck up your ideas. A little bit on our street

1682
01:20:58,293 --> 01:21:01,053
Speaker 3: on the north shore in Casta Bay, everyone uses the

1683
01:21:01,053 --> 01:21:03,572
Speaker 3: little food scraps green bin and we all recycle. It's

1684
01:21:03,612 --> 01:21:05,932
Speaker 3: the way the future. Thank you from Scott.

1685
01:21:06,053 --> 01:21:09,012
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, yes, thank you, thank you all in okay,

1686
01:21:09,053 --> 01:21:10,892
Speaker 2: good nature? Could you read that again in a nice voice.

1687
01:21:10,933 --> 01:21:13,133
Speaker 2: Now we've seen the thanks at the end. Yeah, well,

1688
01:21:13,652 --> 01:21:15,492
Speaker 2: the whole the original trial was on the north shore

1689
01:21:15,532 --> 01:21:17,412
Speaker 2: as well. I wonder if they were part of that

1690
01:21:18,013 --> 01:21:20,572
Speaker 2: original trial. Oh, here we go, So here's someone that

1691
01:21:20,732 --> 01:21:22,772
Speaker 2: was on knowin two two we were part of the

1692
01:21:22,812 --> 01:21:25,692
Speaker 2: original trial on the shore. There you go, handy, isn't

1693
01:21:25,692 --> 01:21:29,692
Speaker 2: it good? Proves my point for the little scrap bins.

1694
01:21:30,013 --> 01:21:32,532
Speaker 2: So we've been doing it for years. It's never a problem.

1695
01:21:32,692 --> 01:21:35,093
Speaker 2: We put the vigual scraps into the little inside bin,

1696
01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:38,612
Speaker 2: never put anything smelly in it. Well, if it's food scraps,

1697
01:21:38,652 --> 01:21:41,052
Speaker 2: some of it's going to be smelly. And when full,

1698
01:21:41,093 --> 01:21:43,412
Speaker 2: it goes into the outside bin to be collected weekly.

1699
01:21:44,772 --> 01:21:47,093
Speaker 2: Oh I see hand a minute. We put it into

1700
01:21:47,133 --> 01:21:49,253
Speaker 2: the visual scraps into a little inside bin. Okay, so

1701
01:21:50,133 --> 01:21:51,933
Speaker 2: they've got it. They've got an even smaller bin. This

1702
01:21:52,053 --> 01:21:54,532
Speaker 2: is like those Russian a Russian dolls cup situation of

1703
01:21:54,612 --> 01:21:57,612
Speaker 2: a bush cut. The method cut down on rubbish so

1704
01:21:57,692 --> 01:22:00,732
Speaker 2: much that the bin goes out about every three weeks.

1705
01:22:00,853 --> 01:22:03,093
Speaker 2: We love the system and we have never had the

1706
01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:06,772
Speaker 2: smell problems. I'm fascinated with the comments coming through. That's

1707
01:22:06,812 --> 01:22:08,892
Speaker 2: someone from the trial. So the trial we really well,

1708
01:22:09,013 --> 01:22:10,452
Speaker 2: and it sounds like people on the north Shore for

1709
01:22:10,492 --> 01:22:12,572
Speaker 2: some reason by the text coming through, it seems to

1710
01:22:12,572 --> 01:22:13,013
Speaker 2: work for them.

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01:22:13,013 --> 01:22:14,133
Speaker 3: Over there, they're all about it.

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01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:18,293
Speaker 2: But Central Aukland, where I live, there is very few

1713
01:22:18,293 --> 01:22:20,213
Speaker 2: of them out on the street. As I said before,

1714
01:22:20,772 --> 01:22:23,692
Speaker 2: I actually took a video of the rows and rows

1715
01:22:23,732 --> 01:22:26,013
Speaker 2: of blue and red bins and then there was just

1716
01:22:26,053 --> 01:22:28,612
Speaker 2: two sad little green bins. One of them would be

1717
01:22:28,692 --> 01:22:32,412
Speaker 2: knocked over by me. No one of them had been

1718
01:22:32,492 --> 01:22:35,412
Speaker 2: knocked over at the end of them, and it just

1719
01:22:35,452 --> 01:22:37,133
Speaker 2: seemed like everyone's got them in the house.

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01:22:37,133 --> 01:22:39,173
Speaker 3: It's a sad analogy for how they're going. And but

1721
01:22:39,372 --> 01:22:42,213
Speaker 3: just to their text from Scott, in my defense, if

1722
01:22:42,213 --> 01:22:44,852
Speaker 3: I may Scott that I don't think these little dinky

1723
01:22:44,893 --> 01:22:48,413
Speaker 3: bins are worth worth the money. But I am advocating

1724
01:22:48,412 --> 01:22:50,012
Speaker 3: for the green bins. That I've got down in Christs

1725
01:22:50,093 --> 01:22:53,372
Speaker 3: use eighty liter bins on wheels. They get used on

1726
01:22:53,372 --> 01:22:55,253
Speaker 3: a weekly basis. We love them down there. You can

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01:22:55,293 --> 01:22:58,133
Speaker 3: put anything you want in there as long as it's organic, and.

1728
01:22:58,053 --> 01:23:01,892
Speaker 2: We love them. And Scott, I too, am disgusted by

1729
01:23:01,893 --> 01:23:04,452
Speaker 2: the amount of waste there is. I just every week

1730
01:23:04,492 --> 01:23:06,852
Speaker 2: I see the amount of stuff we're putting out in

1731
01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:09,372
Speaker 2: the red and the blue bins, and I, boy, we're

1732
01:23:09,372 --> 01:23:12,693
Speaker 2: consuming too much stuff. Yeah, like we've just got it.

1733
01:23:12,692 --> 01:23:15,412
Speaker 2: It's just gross purely before you even get into the

1734
01:23:15,452 --> 01:23:19,092
Speaker 2: environmental fact or the waste of money, of the amount

1735
01:23:19,133 --> 01:23:21,693
Speaker 2: of stuff that gets thrown out, well, it was absolutely

1736
01:23:21,732 --> 01:23:22,333
Speaker 2: disgusted me.

1737
01:23:22,492 --> 01:23:25,492
Speaker 3: It was only yesterday we were talking about that lamb

1738
01:23:25,492 --> 01:23:26,933
Speaker 3: that you're going to eat that's been sitting out in

1739
01:23:26,933 --> 01:23:28,732
Speaker 3: the sun for five days. You just hate waste that

1740
01:23:28,812 --> 01:23:32,612
Speaker 3: much that you're gonna poison yourself to make sure it

1741
01:23:32,612 --> 01:23:33,253
Speaker 3: doesn't get to waste.

1742
01:23:33,293 --> 01:23:35,732
Speaker 2: I those sausages and I'm fine that we were talking

1743
01:23:35,732 --> 01:23:38,253
Speaker 2: about yesterday. If you remember the chat listeners are those

1744
01:23:38,293 --> 01:23:40,333
Speaker 2: little green beans are fabulous? Is sou So there's a

1745
01:23:40,333 --> 01:23:42,572
Speaker 2: lot of support coming through for these little beans that

1746
01:23:42,612 --> 01:23:46,053
Speaker 2: I've been deriding. Ask any Auckland who went camping over

1747
01:23:46,093 --> 01:23:48,252
Speaker 2: the summer. They are the perfect size for a caravan

1748
01:23:48,372 --> 01:23:50,532
Speaker 2: or tint the well. I mean that's like the people

1749
01:23:50,572 --> 01:23:52,093
Speaker 2: that are using them to keep their lego in them.

1750
01:23:52,173 --> 01:23:54,253
Speaker 3: Yeah or dog. I mean it's just a free bucket

1751
01:23:54,253 --> 01:23:56,812
Speaker 3: from the council, wasn't it. Johnny, how are you?

1752
01:23:57,853 --> 01:23:58,013
Speaker 19: Oh?

1753
01:23:58,133 --> 01:23:58,932
Speaker 10: Yeah, good mate.

1754
01:24:00,333 --> 01:24:02,372
Speaker 23: I was just listening to what the toy you were

1755
01:24:02,412 --> 01:24:07,732
Speaker 23: saying in regards to the lack of use and even

1756
01:24:07,812 --> 01:24:10,492
Speaker 23: in regards to the trial. I mean, we got them

1757
01:24:10,492 --> 01:24:12,013
Speaker 23: here in Towering And maybe about a year and a

1758
01:24:12,013 --> 01:24:15,652
Speaker 23: half ago, and they did kick off quite quite strongly.

1759
01:24:15,732 --> 01:24:19,452
Speaker 23: I've seen them consistently out with the other Binns, but

1760
01:24:19,492 --> 01:24:23,772
Speaker 23: they've pretty much just non a system now. I mean

1761
01:24:23,812 --> 01:24:27,932
Speaker 23: we've got about fifty maybe sixty houses down our street

1762
01:24:27,973 --> 01:24:31,093
Speaker 23: we live down towards the end, so we get to

1763
01:24:31,093 --> 01:24:33,452
Speaker 23: see as we drive through on how many of them

1764
01:24:33,492 --> 01:24:36,612
Speaker 23: are out, and out of sixty of them, you'd be lucky,

1765
01:24:37,093 --> 01:24:38,812
Speaker 23: you know, all the Bins seems to be out, but

1766
01:24:39,013 --> 01:24:41,213
Speaker 23: the Green Bins you'd be lucky if there is probably

1767
01:24:41,213 --> 01:24:44,412
Speaker 23: two out of those sixty. So I don't think it's

1768
01:24:44,492 --> 01:24:48,372
Speaker 23: kind of the sectations are taking nots just haven't kind

1769
01:24:48,412 --> 01:24:51,412
Speaker 23: of sustained themselves. You know, they're just not there that

1770
01:24:51,612 --> 01:24:53,612
Speaker 23: they used to be. They're not getting used at all.

1771
01:24:54,173 --> 01:24:56,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got any solution to a problem has

1772
01:24:56,812 --> 01:25:00,532
Speaker 2: to be practical, and I for a lot of people,

1773
01:25:01,173 --> 01:25:04,093
Speaker 2: those little bins are just not a practical way to

1774
01:25:04,133 --> 01:25:08,333
Speaker 2: deal with the situation and are And if that's the case,

1775
01:25:08,692 --> 01:25:10,772
Speaker 2: then it's just an absolute waste of time to spend

1776
01:25:10,973 --> 01:25:16,333
Speaker 2: the money on them. And then no, you go, no,

1777
01:25:16,412 --> 01:25:16,972
Speaker 2: you go, Johnny.

1778
01:25:17,013 --> 01:25:19,732
Speaker 23: So sorry, if it's a city to city thing, that's

1779
01:25:19,772 --> 01:25:24,013
Speaker 23: you know, just evaluated, you know, whether it be six

1780
01:25:24,053 --> 01:25:27,333
Speaker 23: monthly or so forth, and it can be optional. You

1781
01:25:27,333 --> 01:25:30,692
Speaker 23: can opt them therefore we can pay you your eighty

1782
01:25:30,732 --> 01:25:34,852
Speaker 23: dollars annually or so forth. But I mean, we have

1783
01:25:34,893 --> 01:25:36,572
Speaker 23: a mayor that doesn't live in our city, so it's

1784
01:25:36,612 --> 01:25:40,572
Speaker 23: probably a little bit out of touch with our problems here.

1785
01:25:40,612 --> 01:25:44,492
Speaker 23: So you know, we we yeah, we just get left

1786
01:25:44,492 --> 01:25:47,372
Speaker 23: with them. And and then to be fair, they get

1787
01:25:47,572 --> 01:25:49,452
Speaker 23: the smelly out of the back if you use them

1788
01:25:49,732 --> 01:25:51,732
Speaker 23: for six months when everyone was using them and we

1789
01:25:51,732 --> 01:25:55,932
Speaker 23: were two and we're recycled. We are recyclers in our family.

1790
01:25:56,893 --> 01:25:58,812
Speaker 23: But when it comes to the food scraps, that's just

1791
01:25:58,893 --> 01:25:59,492
Speaker 23: non existent.

1792
01:26:00,093 --> 01:26:01,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's so much to we call Johnny.

1793
01:26:01,692 --> 01:26:04,173
Speaker 3: I just wonder how long it would be until you

1794
01:26:04,213 --> 01:26:06,732
Speaker 3: get a return on investment if everybody was using them,

1795
01:26:06,772 --> 01:26:08,812
Speaker 3: Because I've just had a look how many private Dwellington

1796
01:26:08,853 --> 01:26:11,892
Speaker 3: Auckland five hundred and forty two thousand, So five hundred

1797
01:26:11,933 --> 01:26:14,892
Speaker 3: and forty two thousand of these little green buckets. That's

1798
01:26:14,933 --> 01:26:15,852
Speaker 3: a lot of places station.

1799
01:26:15,772 --> 01:26:18,492
Speaker 2: Surely not they didn't? Did they put out five hundred

1800
01:26:18,652 --> 01:26:19,093
Speaker 2: that many?

1801
01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:19,532
Speaker 3: Well?

1802
01:26:19,692 --> 01:26:22,093
Speaker 2: And then people are just putting them in their recycling bin.

1803
01:26:22,213 --> 01:26:24,532
Speaker 2: They're living the little green one and their big blue

1804
01:26:24,532 --> 01:26:26,253
Speaker 2: one and this how does that help them?

1805
01:26:26,253 --> 01:26:28,772
Speaker 3: How much energy is wasted there? And that's just you know,

1806
01:26:28,812 --> 01:26:30,652
Speaker 3: a beck of the envelope calculation. But it was going

1807
01:26:30,732 --> 01:26:32,572
Speaker 3: to be nineteen thousand bins long?

1808
01:26:33,053 --> 01:26:36,012
Speaker 2: Was any research done into you know, human behavior before

1809
01:26:36,053 --> 01:26:39,132
Speaker 2: they before they rolled those out?

1810
01:26:39,412 --> 01:26:40,532
Speaker 3: Silly? Don't there?

1811
01:26:40,732 --> 01:26:43,612
Speaker 2: Because it seems a clear demonstration that these aren't in

1812
01:26:43,612 --> 01:26:45,772
Speaker 2: a line with human behavior. And you could tut as

1813
01:26:45,812 --> 01:26:48,372
Speaker 2: some people are tutting for people not using them, But

1814
01:26:48,572 --> 01:26:51,213
Speaker 2: if people aren't using them, then people have spoken. Hey, guys,

1815
01:26:51,213 --> 01:26:53,732
Speaker 2: we are on the north Shore, about one hundred houses

1816
01:26:53,732 --> 01:26:55,692
Speaker 2: in our street. I would say there would be eight

1817
01:26:55,772 --> 01:26:59,213
Speaker 2: food bins put out. We compost our vegetable bits and

1818
01:26:59,253 --> 01:27:01,532
Speaker 2: put the smelly stuff meat rappers, et cetera. And our

1819
01:27:01,572 --> 01:27:06,012
Speaker 2: freezer downstairs. Well, we put our rubbishmen out about once

1820
01:27:06,053 --> 01:27:08,612
Speaker 2: a month. The rest is recycled. I do not like

1821
01:27:08,652 --> 01:27:10,612
Speaker 2: paying for a service I don't need. Surely it is

1822
01:27:10,652 --> 01:27:13,052
Speaker 2: better to encourage people to compost. A lot of people

1823
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:14,933
Speaker 2: are saying that, yeah, and that's the correct way to

1824
01:27:14,973 --> 01:27:17,732
Speaker 2: say it as well. Compost Hi guys, get a worm

1825
01:27:17,812 --> 01:27:21,692
Speaker 2: farm or decks by digging a hole in your garden.

1826
01:27:21,732 --> 01:27:26,253
Speaker 2: Too easy, cheers Reese. Yeah, dig a hole, put your

1827
01:27:26,612 --> 01:27:30,172
Speaker 2: put your greater carrot down it, ye, and your old chickens.

1828
01:27:32,333 --> 01:27:35,492
Speaker 3: The insincorator discussion has fallen off a little bit, but

1829
01:27:35,572 --> 01:27:37,133
Speaker 3: if you want to have a chat about your waste

1830
01:27:37,173 --> 01:27:39,892
Speaker 3: disposal unit, we still haven't really got to the bottom

1831
01:27:39,933 --> 01:27:44,253
Speaker 3: about how environmentally friendly they are. I mean, I still

1832
01:27:44,293 --> 01:27:45,893
Speaker 3: think that makes a lot of sense. We had the

1833
01:27:46,213 --> 01:27:48,053
Speaker 3: guy that ran through and said, what happens when you

1834
01:27:48,053 --> 01:27:50,652
Speaker 3: put it down the waste disposal unit and it's got

1835
01:27:50,692 --> 01:27:53,412
Speaker 3: to go through all those various bits of infrastructure before

1836
01:27:53,452 --> 01:27:55,692
Speaker 3: it's cleaned and goes out. To the ocean. But I

1837
01:27:55,692 --> 01:27:57,692
Speaker 3: don't know, to me, that still makes more sense than just.

1838
01:27:58,053 --> 01:28:00,012
Speaker 2: Ivist claiming it doesn't even go out to the ocean.

1839
01:28:00,013 --> 01:28:02,372
Speaker 2: It ends up just in a landfill anyway. But I mean,

1840
01:28:02,372 --> 01:28:05,812
Speaker 2: what's the difference really between that and short like it's

1841
01:28:05,812 --> 01:28:07,852
Speaker 2: a use of water, it's using an ysyncreator. Of course

1842
01:28:07,853 --> 01:28:09,253
Speaker 2: it takes quite a lot of water put it to

1843
01:28:09,293 --> 01:28:11,852
Speaker 2: put it down there. That's fair well, but not that

1844
01:28:11,973 --> 01:28:17,812
Speaker 2: much really, just gonna remember about that much? How much?

1845
01:28:17,893 --> 01:28:19,572
Speaker 3: Is that very cathartic herring that noise?

1846
01:28:19,692 --> 01:28:24,052
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, But you know, is it that much

1847
01:28:24,093 --> 01:28:25,492
Speaker 2: better for you then to just put it into a

1848
01:28:25,492 --> 01:28:28,372
Speaker 2: plastic little bin and then then trucks come around and

1849
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:30,812
Speaker 2: pick it up and then transport it to the place

1850
01:28:30,853 --> 01:28:33,012
Speaker 2: as opposed to just going down the gray water pipes?

1851
01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:35,372
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why is it so much better? Tell me,

1852
01:28:35,492 --> 01:28:37,492
Speaker 2: oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty or nine two

1853
01:28:37,572 --> 01:28:40,733
Speaker 2: nine two why it's bad to use an and syncreator

1854
01:28:40,893 --> 01:28:44,133
Speaker 2: love to hear from you. And look, if you think

1855
01:28:44,133 --> 01:28:48,093
Speaker 2: that these little green food scraps bins are good, love

1856
01:28:48,133 --> 01:28:49,452
Speaker 2: to hear from you. If you think they're bad, love

1857
01:28:49,492 --> 01:28:50,612
Speaker 2: to hear from you as well. O w one hundred

1858
01:28:50,692 --> 01:28:51,412
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty.

1859
01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:58,532
Speaker 3: Number sixteen plus three. Remember, Oh that is a good sound,

1860
01:28:58,572 --> 01:29:00,892
Speaker 3: doesn't it. Thank you very much for that, Andrew have

1861
01:29:00,973 --> 01:29:05,652
Speaker 3: that on repeats. Then remember that's the beautiful sound of

1862
01:29:05,692 --> 01:29:08,253
Speaker 3: a waste disposal unit. Or in cincreator is some of us.

1863
01:29:08,652 --> 01:29:10,133
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of talents, but I can

1864
01:29:10,173 --> 01:29:14,492
Speaker 2: impersonate an incincreator. Lads. I live on the North Shore too,

1865
01:29:14,893 --> 01:29:16,572
Speaker 2: So there's been a lot of talk from the North

1866
01:29:16,612 --> 01:29:19,612
Speaker 2: Shore where this original trial for Auckland was done with

1867
01:29:19,652 --> 01:29:23,133
Speaker 2: the I've gotta stop calling them humiliating little green bins

1868
01:29:23,133 --> 01:29:26,253
Speaker 2: because that's sort of leading the argument. Can we still watch?

1869
01:29:27,013 --> 01:29:29,732
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe dinky? Yeah, I love on thetle Shaw and

1870
01:29:29,812 --> 01:29:31,253
Speaker 2: so a lot of people have over there, so they

1871
01:29:31,293 --> 01:29:34,093
Speaker 2: love them. We've got this whole rafter texts coming through

1872
01:29:34,093 --> 01:29:36,213
Speaker 2: saying we love them. Ye, lads, I live on Little

1873
01:29:36,253 --> 01:29:41,012
Speaker 2: Show too. I hate those little green weasel bins. Absolute joke,

1874
01:29:41,452 --> 01:29:45,972
Speaker 2: more plastic, not financially viable. That's from dere so he's

1875
01:29:45,973 --> 01:29:46,892
Speaker 2: calling them weasel bins.

1876
01:29:47,053 --> 01:29:51,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll catch on. And this one, hey, boys, can

1877
01:29:51,333 --> 01:29:55,492
Speaker 3: you tell me? Can I put a dirty old pizza

1878
01:29:55,492 --> 01:29:59,013
Speaker 3: box with sauce and cheese all over it into my

1879
01:29:59,173 --> 01:30:01,973
Speaker 3: green bin. But why do I have to rinse the

1880
01:30:02,013 --> 01:30:05,492
Speaker 3: plastic takeaway food containers can't be contamination. It all goes

1881
01:30:05,532 --> 01:30:08,253
Speaker 3: to the same truck, Matt. What should I do rinse

1882
01:30:08,532 --> 01:30:11,173
Speaker 3: or not? Please? Help? Thanks from anonymous?

1883
01:30:11,253 --> 01:30:16,253
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a non Look what is the I think

1884
01:30:16,253 --> 01:30:20,252
Speaker 2: we got to the bottom of the pizza gate situation. Yeah,

1885
01:30:21,652 --> 01:30:24,572
Speaker 2: it's a different pizza gate. It's not the big pizza gate,

1886
01:30:25,532 --> 01:30:30,173
Speaker 2: you know, QAnon situation. I think that you can't put

1887
01:30:30,173 --> 01:30:33,892
Speaker 2: a soiled pizza box into the recycling I think you can't,

1888
01:30:34,253 --> 01:30:35,053
Speaker 2: especially you know, if you.

1889
01:30:35,013 --> 01:30:37,013
Speaker 3: Go on the green burn, because no, it goes in

1890
01:30:37,053 --> 01:30:37,412
Speaker 3: the red bin.

1891
01:30:37,492 --> 01:30:39,973
Speaker 2: Now and the full disclosure here, I have done that

1892
01:30:40,013 --> 01:30:42,492
Speaker 2: after kids parties at my house with ten pizzas have

1893
01:30:42,572 --> 01:30:44,652
Speaker 2: been ordered in. I've just put them, stacked them all

1894
01:30:44,732 --> 01:30:48,893
Speaker 2: up in the in the recycling bin. But I understand

1895
01:30:48,973 --> 01:30:51,372
Speaker 2: that you're not supposed to do that if the cardboarder

1896
01:30:51,412 --> 01:30:54,053
Speaker 2: is soiled, even if it's just soiled with grease. But

1897
01:30:54,093 --> 01:30:56,492
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Someone will know. Hey, this is

1898
01:30:56,532 --> 01:30:58,652
Speaker 2: good because we had read out the text from Scott

1899
01:30:58,933 --> 01:31:02,132
Speaker 2: and it was passionate and his's responded. Thank you guys.

1900
01:31:02,772 --> 01:31:04,973
Speaker 2: You are absolutely awesome for reading out my message and

1901
01:31:05,013 --> 01:31:07,532
Speaker 2: giving me so much feedback. That's impressive. Once again, it's

1902
01:31:07,572 --> 01:31:10,733
Speaker 2: all work together to helped create a much more sustainable

1903
01:31:10,772 --> 01:31:13,492
Speaker 2: environment for the people, for the generations ahead of us.

1904
01:31:13,692 --> 01:31:17,012
Speaker 2: There you go, Scott, Hands done, You're part of the team.

1905
01:31:17,053 --> 01:31:20,012
Speaker 2: Now hands across the ocean. All right, Greg, your thoughts

1906
01:31:20,013 --> 01:31:22,653
Speaker 2: on food scraps, Yeah.

1907
01:31:22,572 --> 01:31:26,253
Speaker 19: Well, I think it's our whole recycling system to start with,

1908
01:31:28,933 --> 01:31:33,092
Speaker 19: because don't we ship all our recycling overseas or something,

1909
01:31:33,253 --> 01:31:35,132
Speaker 19: or do they just end up in the landfill?

1910
01:31:35,293 --> 01:31:38,293
Speaker 2: There is like we've had a big discussions on this,

1911
01:31:38,372 --> 01:31:39,972
Speaker 2: and it's actually quite hard to get to the bottom

1912
01:31:39,973 --> 01:31:42,772
Speaker 2: of what actually happens. We talked to an expert from

1913
01:31:42,772 --> 01:31:45,372
Speaker 2: a university said that eighty percent of everything that goes

1914
01:31:45,372 --> 01:31:48,253
Speaker 2: in your recycling but gets recycled, but he didn't seem

1915
01:31:48,253 --> 01:31:49,532
Speaker 2: to be able to back that up at all. And

1916
01:31:49,532 --> 01:31:52,172
Speaker 2: when we've talked to people at that have actually worked

1917
01:31:52,213 --> 01:31:55,133
Speaker 2: at the recycling at the refuge transfer centers, they say

1918
01:31:55,133 --> 01:31:56,932
Speaker 2: there's only so much they can get through the day,

1919
01:31:57,053 --> 01:31:59,213
Speaker 2: and it's not that much, so it all comes in.

1920
01:31:59,333 --> 01:32:01,772
Speaker 2: They get through as much as they can, which isn't much,

1921
01:32:01,812 --> 01:32:04,692
Speaker 2: and then they put it all into the landfilleh so

1922
01:32:06,213 --> 01:32:08,852
Speaker 2: and there has been in the past shipping it over

1923
01:32:09,013 --> 01:32:11,293
Speaker 2: to other countries to deal with it. I'm not sure

1924
01:32:11,293 --> 01:32:14,932
Speaker 2: if that's still going on or not or not, Greg, But.

1925
01:32:14,933 --> 01:32:17,372
Speaker 3: We don't know why it's so complicated greed because somebody knows,

1926
01:32:17,532 --> 01:32:20,652
Speaker 3: somebody knows how it all works and how much we

1927
01:32:20,772 --> 01:32:24,053
Speaker 3: actually recycle. But for some reason, it's just incredibly.

1928
01:32:24,812 --> 01:32:27,092
Speaker 2: Guy that was that you that you rustled up, Tyler,

1929
01:32:27,093 --> 01:32:30,093
Speaker 2: You rustled up this expert from well, a nice guy.

1930
01:32:30,333 --> 01:32:32,212
Speaker 3: His numbers were just a little bit dubious.

1931
01:32:32,452 --> 01:32:36,213
Speaker 2: From what university was he Auckland? I think? Yeah, well anyway, no, he.

1932
01:32:36,213 --> 01:32:38,612
Speaker 3: Was an independent recycling analyst.

1933
01:32:38,772 --> 01:32:41,532
Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, Well he didn't seem to know anything

1934
01:32:41,532 --> 01:32:44,372
Speaker 2: about it, so I blame you. Yeah.

1935
01:32:44,612 --> 01:32:46,213
Speaker 19: Have you guys heard of graphine?

1936
01:32:46,893 --> 01:32:49,212
Speaker 2: No grapphine, no grapheine.

1937
01:32:49,253 --> 01:32:52,572
Speaker 19: They use it like Chipman manufacture and all that sort

1938
01:32:52,612 --> 01:32:55,053
Speaker 19: of thing, and it's quite hard to come by it.

1939
01:32:55,812 --> 01:32:58,293
Speaker 19: Well generally they used to mine it and stuff like that.

1940
01:32:58,333 --> 01:33:02,132
Speaker 19: But is a way of turning like anything carbon based,

1941
01:33:02,173 --> 01:33:06,932
Speaker 19: being your recycling of food scraps or even placed its

1942
01:33:06,973 --> 01:33:09,333
Speaker 19: carbon based anything like that. They put it in a

1943
01:33:09,452 --> 01:33:12,333
Speaker 19: tube and run a charge through it which turns it

1944
01:33:12,372 --> 01:33:17,372
Speaker 19: into graphene, and the other byproduct is hydrogen. With net benefits,

1945
01:33:17,492 --> 01:33:19,732
Speaker 19: you end up with more money than what goes into

1946
01:33:19,732 --> 01:33:22,412
Speaker 19: the process. Wow, I think we should set up a

1947
01:33:22,452 --> 01:33:23,812
Speaker 19: plant like that somewhere here.

1948
01:33:24,293 --> 01:33:24,692
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1949
01:33:24,772 --> 01:33:27,852
Speaker 2: Well, I mean if that, if it works as you

1950
01:33:27,893 --> 01:33:30,692
Speaker 2: say it does, then you know you're making more money.

1951
01:33:31,572 --> 01:33:34,572
Speaker 19: Boxes. You don't even have to wash your boxes because

1952
01:33:34,572 --> 01:33:37,253
Speaker 19: it's all these gardens are just going through that.

1953
01:33:37,253 --> 01:33:41,173
Speaker 3: That charge makes sense. I mean genuinely, there there was

1954
01:33:41,333 --> 01:33:45,692
Speaker 3: some positive movement in that technology of burning some of

1955
01:33:45,732 --> 01:33:48,253
Speaker 3: the waste and turning that into energy. And I don't

1956
01:33:48,253 --> 01:33:51,333
Speaker 3: know the official terminology for that, and that I could.

1957
01:33:51,173 --> 01:33:54,892
Speaker 19: Burn yeah, sorry, you could burn the hydrogen afterwards if

1958
01:33:54,933 --> 01:33:57,372
Speaker 19: you wanted. But the grafphene, I think a ton of

1959
01:33:57,412 --> 01:34:00,852
Speaker 19: grafphine at the time i'd seen this thing was like

1960
01:34:00,973 --> 01:34:04,572
Speaker 19: sixty million American a ton, and then you had serplous

1961
01:34:04,612 --> 01:34:06,492
Speaker 19: amounts of hydrogen that was worth heats.

1962
01:34:06,772 --> 01:34:09,652
Speaker 2: How are you spelling graphene? Greg, just trying to look

1963
01:34:09,652 --> 01:34:11,852
Speaker 2: it up and get my mind around us.

1964
01:34:12,173 --> 01:34:12,572
Speaker 7: What is it?

1965
01:34:12,732 --> 01:34:17,333
Speaker 2: G r A p h I Ok, look, oh there

1966
01:34:17,372 --> 01:34:20,773
Speaker 2: we go. Oh yep, graphine ox e e yep, okay.

1967
01:34:20,612 --> 01:34:23,532
Speaker 19: And on YouTube you should see a few videos that's

1968
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:27,972
Speaker 19: been doing some of the research into this. Yeah, because

1969
01:34:28,013 --> 01:34:29,932
Speaker 19: if I think if you had one of these plants

1970
01:34:29,933 --> 01:34:33,372
Speaker 19: in every city, like we'd be pumping out graphene to

1971
01:34:33,412 --> 01:34:35,652
Speaker 19: the rest of the world and we'd have all the

1972
01:34:35,692 --> 01:34:39,452
Speaker 19: hydrogen to you know, do with what we want, either

1973
01:34:39,572 --> 01:34:44,053
Speaker 19: for heating or for yeah, many different processes.

1974
01:34:44,253 --> 01:34:44,572
Speaker 3: Interest.

1975
01:34:44,612 --> 01:34:46,053
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Greg, I'm gonna I'm going to

1976
01:34:46,093 --> 01:34:47,133
Speaker 2: read up on graphene.

1977
01:34:47,213 --> 01:34:50,013
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, we were got to play some messages, but

1978
01:34:50,093 --> 01:34:52,372
Speaker 3: plenty of more people want to chat and we'd love

1979
01:34:52,412 --> 01:34:53,852
Speaker 3: to hear from you as well. Oh eight hundred and

1980
01:34:53,853 --> 01:34:56,213
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call twenty five

1981
01:34:56,293 --> 01:34:57,092
Speaker 3: past three.

1982
01:35:01,692 --> 01:35:03,132
Speaker 4: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

1983
01:35:03,173 --> 01:35:07,093
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talks.

1984
01:35:06,973 --> 01:35:10,412
Speaker 3: V News Talks. Be good afternoon, Wayne. You want to

1985
01:35:10,412 --> 01:35:12,293
Speaker 3: have a chat about those little green bins?

1986
01:35:12,853 --> 01:35:16,173
Speaker 17: Yeah, amazing little green bins. I've just been driving through

1987
01:35:16,333 --> 01:35:18,812
Speaker 17: Packerger and Buckland's Beach in Auckland.

1988
01:35:19,253 --> 01:35:22,333
Speaker 4: It's a rubbish dayful.

1989
01:35:21,973 --> 01:35:26,053
Speaker 17: And almost every house has got their red top bin

1990
01:35:26,572 --> 01:35:28,293
Speaker 17: and their little green bin beside us.

1991
01:35:28,652 --> 01:35:31,652
Speaker 2: Okay, right, because there's different in a lot of different areas.

1992
01:35:31,652 --> 01:35:37,092
Speaker 2: So would you say Buckland, Buckland's beachway and packer, Yeah, yeah, beautiful, beautiful.

1993
01:35:38,173 --> 01:35:42,333
Speaker 17: And our experience is that you buy the little pink

1994
01:35:42,412 --> 01:35:46,053
Speaker 17: or green biodegradable bags from the super market of the

1995
01:35:46,093 --> 01:35:49,452
Speaker 17: councilor she gave them out of the beginning, and if

1996
01:35:49,452 --> 01:35:51,692
Speaker 17: you put them inside your green bin, follow that the

1997
01:35:51,692 --> 01:36:00,333
Speaker 17: scraps tightly. The we store them in another place and

1998
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:05,293
Speaker 17: the flyers can't get in, they don't smell. They settle

1999
01:36:05,372 --> 01:36:07,933
Speaker 17: down a little bit over a couple of days. You

2000
01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:10,052
Speaker 17: pop the more back in the green burn and fired

2001
01:36:10,093 --> 01:36:12,412
Speaker 17: out on the side of the road, and the man

2002
01:36:12,412 --> 01:36:15,173
Speaker 17: in the truck comes along and lifts it up, puts

2003
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:18,093
Speaker 17: it in a way it goes down to gisbone.

2004
01:36:18,173 --> 01:36:21,452
Speaker 3: And where do you get those the plastic bags from

2005
01:36:21,452 --> 01:36:22,333
Speaker 3: the supermarket?

2006
01:36:22,853 --> 01:36:25,132
Speaker 17: Every super make it's about two dollars for one hundred

2007
01:36:25,133 --> 01:36:27,812
Speaker 17: bags or something or other like that. It's cheap.

2008
01:36:27,812 --> 01:36:31,732
Speaker 2: Oatt. I forgot that, Wayne that when when those little

2009
01:36:31,772 --> 01:36:33,692
Speaker 2: green beans came out, they came with the plastic bags

2010
01:36:33,732 --> 01:36:36,133
Speaker 2: as well inside them. I totally forgot that part of it.

2011
01:36:36,853 --> 01:36:39,892
Speaker 17: And the old thing is that once like unlike you're

2012
01:36:39,893 --> 01:36:42,253
Speaker 17: recycling and what have you, goes to a recycling plant.

2013
01:36:42,933 --> 01:36:43,452
Speaker 20: All the.

2014
01:36:45,492 --> 01:36:50,093
Speaker 17: Waste from the green bins goes as back backloading for

2015
01:36:50,213 --> 01:36:55,333
Speaker 17: trucks that are coming up from tyravity and going back

2016
01:36:55,412 --> 01:36:58,852
Speaker 17: down there empty. And there's a huge plant down there

2017
01:36:58,893 --> 01:37:04,933
Speaker 17: that is really really getting underway that's producing composts and

2018
01:37:05,053 --> 01:37:08,452
Speaker 17: fertilizers and all sorts of other stuff out of the

2019
01:37:09,452 --> 01:37:10,893
Speaker 17: green waste from Auckland.

2020
01:37:11,532 --> 01:37:15,412
Speaker 2: Wow, so is that Auckland? Is that Auckland wide?

2021
01:37:16,333 --> 01:37:19,532
Speaker 17: That's that's happened in Auckland wide. There is a bit

2022
01:37:19,532 --> 01:37:22,092
Speaker 17: of resistance from some people. Some people say it's stupid

2023
01:37:22,093 --> 01:37:24,213
Speaker 17: and useless and they hate the green bins. They may

2024
01:37:24,612 --> 01:37:26,572
Speaker 17: use them in the caravans, but at the end of

2025
01:37:26,612 --> 01:37:30,892
Speaker 17: the day, it is that part is a real, really,

2026
01:37:30,933 --> 01:37:34,613
Speaker 17: really good working example of recycling.

2027
01:37:34,893 --> 01:37:36,852
Speaker 2: What do you think it is about that area you're

2028
01:37:36,853 --> 01:37:40,253
Speaker 2: talking about in Pakuranga, That Pakuranga, that's what that is

2029
01:37:40,372 --> 01:37:43,213
Speaker 2: doing it. Whereas where I live in so many people

2030
01:37:43,253 --> 01:37:45,452
Speaker 2: that are texting through here saying where they are. People

2031
01:37:45,452 --> 01:37:47,372
Speaker 2: have just given up on them. And you'll see you

2032
01:37:47,492 --> 01:37:49,173
Speaker 2: go down a street with one hundred bins and you'll

2033
01:37:49,173 --> 01:37:51,772
Speaker 2: see two of these green bins. Is what is it

2034
01:37:51,812 --> 01:37:53,732
Speaker 2: out there that is making people do it?

2035
01:37:53,812 --> 01:37:57,333
Speaker 17: Do you think Wayne, when well, when they started it,

2036
01:37:57,412 --> 01:38:01,053
Speaker 17: the education program, like I live in the area, but

2037
01:38:01,133 --> 01:38:05,652
Speaker 17: the education program, and I mean it was it was very,

2038
01:38:05,772 --> 01:38:08,333
Speaker 17: very very well done. The local board out of here.

2039
01:38:08,412 --> 01:38:13,093
Speaker 17: You had pamphlets in every letterbox, They had people going

2040
01:38:13,093 --> 01:38:16,092
Speaker 17: around talking about it. They had signs on every street

2041
01:38:16,133 --> 01:38:19,972
Speaker 17: corner it's starting and what have you. And the green

2042
01:38:20,013 --> 01:38:23,772
Speaker 17: bins came out and like, not everybody is doing it,

2043
01:38:23,812 --> 01:38:26,692
Speaker 17: I can guarantee you that, but a huge number of

2044
01:38:26,772 --> 01:38:29,093
Speaker 17: people have picked up, picked it up and run with it.

2045
01:38:29,452 --> 01:38:31,173
Speaker 2: Yeah. So do you think I was premature to put

2046
01:38:31,213 --> 01:38:32,972
Speaker 2: my little green bin in my big blue bin?

2047
01:38:34,293 --> 01:38:34,652
Speaker 19: Well?

2048
01:38:34,652 --> 01:38:40,932
Speaker 17: Probably, like give it a go. You know, it's I'm

2049
01:38:40,933 --> 01:38:43,093
Speaker 17: not talking about recycling and the pizza boxes and all

2050
01:38:43,093 --> 01:38:46,012
Speaker 17: that sort of stuffs. The wonderful thing about the green

2051
01:38:46,053 --> 01:38:49,612
Speaker 17: binners all of you buy it, your sort of vegetable

2052
01:38:49,652 --> 01:38:52,053
Speaker 17: and what have you, waste can go in there and

2053
01:38:52,093 --> 01:38:53,612
Speaker 17: you don't have to worry about sorting it.

2054
01:38:54,093 --> 01:38:56,972
Speaker 3: That was very if you're called Wayne, it was very

2055
01:38:56,973 --> 01:39:00,093
Speaker 3: diplomatic of Wayne just said, shame on you, shame on

2056
01:39:00,213 --> 01:39:01,852
Speaker 3: you for disposing of your green bin.

2057
01:39:02,053 --> 01:39:05,053
Speaker 2: Well, they're into it in Buckland's Beach. Yeah, I've got

2058
01:39:05,053 --> 01:39:06,532
Speaker 2: a lot of time for Bucklan's Beach. Was out there

2059
01:39:06,572 --> 01:39:07,892
Speaker 2: a few weekends ago for a party.

2060
01:39:08,093 --> 01:39:10,772
Speaker 3: And McLean's Park is just above Buckland's Beach.

2061
01:39:11,532 --> 01:39:14,492
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a lovely dog bug all right, Yeah, yeah,

2062
01:39:14,572 --> 01:39:17,293
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll just say, going from where I

2063
01:39:17,333 --> 01:39:19,253
Speaker 2: live in Central Aukland out to Buckland's Beach for a

2064
01:39:19,333 --> 01:39:23,013
Speaker 2: kid's birthday party in a weekend, it's an epic It's

2065
01:39:23,013 --> 01:39:27,253
Speaker 2: an epic adventure. Yeah, it's a long goods a long drive.

2066
01:39:27,412 --> 01:39:29,973
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2067
01:39:30,093 --> 01:39:32,892
Speaker 3: number called headlines with Raylene coming up. Then we're going

2068
01:39:32,933 --> 01:39:34,973
Speaker 3: to have a check to David who works in recycling,

2069
01:39:35,412 --> 01:39:38,772
Speaker 3: and hopefully he can answer all of our recycling questions.

2070
01:39:38,973 --> 01:39:41,133
Speaker 2: This text from Liz the differences. You live in an

2071
01:39:41,173 --> 01:39:45,253
Speaker 2: area of rednecks, Matt with a smiley face, Yes, Central Auckland,

2072
01:39:45,532 --> 01:39:48,253
Speaker 2: Man Needham. I think they might have I think I

2073
01:39:48,253 --> 01:39:50,812
Speaker 2: think people needed me might have voted in the greens.

2074
01:39:50,812 --> 01:39:52,532
Speaker 2: But yeah, at.

2075
01:39:52,372 --> 01:39:54,652
Speaker 3: One point the headlines with Raylene coming.

2076
01:39:54,492 --> 01:40:01,053
Speaker 16: Up, us talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis

2077
01:40:01,173 --> 01:40:04,412
Speaker 16: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. The Finance Minister

2078
01:40:04,452 --> 01:40:07,293
Speaker 16: has been selling New Zealand to potential investors and a

2079
01:40:07,372 --> 01:40:11,893
Speaker 16: summer in Auckland. Nikola Willis has highlighted public private partnerships

2080
01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:15,812
Speaker 16: as a key opportunity. All eyes on the Kremlin as

2081
01:40:15,853 --> 01:40:19,372
Speaker 16: the White House takes its peace plan to Russia. Ukraine's

2082
01:40:19,452 --> 01:40:23,293
Speaker 16: backed the proposed thirty day in to hostilities following talks

2083
01:40:23,333 --> 01:40:28,533
Speaker 16: with US diplomats in Saudi Arabia. An overwhelming majority of principles,

2084
01:40:28,853 --> 01:40:31,092
Speaker 16: so they're not happy about being in the new school

2085
01:40:31,173 --> 01:40:35,012
Speaker 16: lunch program. A survey suggests just seven point five percent

2086
01:40:35,253 --> 01:40:39,213
Speaker 16: of the one hundred and twenty respondents are satisfied. The

2087
01:40:39,253 --> 01:40:42,853
Speaker 16: young girl killed in a train accident in Waikator's Matamata

2088
01:40:42,973 --> 01:40:47,293
Speaker 16: yesterday has been named. She was thirteen year old Sari Morton,

2089
01:40:47,492 --> 01:40:51,412
Speaker 16: who had just started high school. Police have find twenty

2090
01:40:51,412 --> 01:40:55,133
Speaker 16: demonstrators who blocked an Auckland motorway in a Destiny Church

2091
01:40:55,293 --> 01:40:59,293
Speaker 16: organized protest in November. The Make New Zealand Great Again

2092
01:40:59,372 --> 01:41:02,852
Speaker 16: protest entered the motorway network on foot to perform a

2093
01:41:02,933 --> 01:41:08,013
Speaker 16: Hakka sports and cider. The kiwis casting secret votes in

2094
01:41:08,013 --> 01:41:11,173
Speaker 16: a lit Pick presidency ballot. Read this and more from

2095
01:41:11,173 --> 01:41:14,692
Speaker 16: Sports Inside at Ends at Herald Premium. Back to Matt

2096
01:41:14,732 --> 01:41:16,333
Speaker 16: Heath and Tyler Adams.

2097
01:41:15,853 --> 01:41:18,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and having a great discussion

2098
01:41:18,333 --> 01:41:22,012
Speaker 3: about little green bins and sincreators recycling in general.

2099
01:41:22,372 --> 01:41:24,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my point on them is, no matter

2100
01:41:25,333 --> 01:41:31,012
Speaker 2: how seemingly or actually virtuous your intentions were the people

2101
01:41:31,133 --> 01:41:35,412
Speaker 2: that were mandating these little green bins, they don't work. Yeah,

2102
01:41:35,532 --> 01:41:37,892
Speaker 2: They're not practical. So if you put something out that's

2103
01:41:37,893 --> 01:41:39,972
Speaker 2: not practical when people don't want to use it, except

2104
01:41:40,013 --> 01:41:42,412
Speaker 2: for Bucklan's Beach and the couple of streets.

2105
01:41:42,732 --> 01:41:44,652
Speaker 3: On the north shore Pasta Bay, maybe, and.

2106
01:41:45,053 --> 01:41:48,173
Speaker 2: There were some people around the country that enjoy them,

2107
01:41:48,173 --> 01:41:51,932
Speaker 2: but not all I know. But if it doesn't work

2108
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:54,133
Speaker 2: and it isn't align with human nature, then all you've

2109
01:41:54,133 --> 01:41:58,293
Speaker 2: done is make thousands and thousands and thousands of little

2110
01:41:58,333 --> 01:42:01,253
Speaker 2: plastic bins that now need to be recycled. Yeah, or

2111
01:42:01,293 --> 01:42:02,372
Speaker 2: are being used to keep Leger.

2112
01:42:02,532 --> 01:42:03,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

2113
01:42:04,013 --> 01:42:07,013
Speaker 2: The whole thing is predicated on an underlying virtue. We

2114
01:42:07,093 --> 01:42:09,612
Speaker 2: have angered the echo God and we need to repent.

2115
01:42:10,173 --> 01:42:12,492
Speaker 2: That's from Roger, right, and this one from Paul.

2116
01:42:12,572 --> 01:42:15,812
Speaker 3: I get a guys repent to love that the other

2117
01:42:15,853 --> 01:42:17,932
Speaker 3: big plus with the green bins is I really use

2118
01:42:18,013 --> 01:42:20,892
Speaker 3: my en syncreat waste disposal anymore. And you can put

2119
01:42:20,893 --> 01:42:23,852
Speaker 3: fish bones, meat bones, etc. Et cetera, and as well

2120
01:42:24,253 --> 01:42:25,012
Speaker 3: love them from Paul.

2121
01:42:25,173 --> 01:42:29,212
Speaker 2: And you put a hold chicken, hold chicken in compost

2122
01:42:29,412 --> 01:42:31,612
Speaker 2: yourself and put it on your own garden rather than

2123
01:42:31,732 --> 01:42:34,212
Speaker 2: driving it all over the country. Get a big compost

2124
01:42:34,372 --> 01:42:37,093
Speaker 2: and put it outside, have a small plastic container with

2125
01:42:37,173 --> 01:42:39,532
Speaker 2: a lid for inside, and when it is full, emptied

2126
01:42:39,612 --> 01:42:42,133
Speaker 2: into the compost and wash the container and start again.

2127
01:42:42,532 --> 01:42:45,532
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got a garden, and you know

2128
01:42:45,612 --> 01:42:47,652
Speaker 2: you're a gardener, and you are lucky enough to have

2129
01:42:48,253 --> 01:42:51,333
Speaker 2: a section yep, that you can do some gardening on,

2130
01:42:51,452 --> 01:42:53,612
Speaker 2: grow some stuff on, then you'd be silly not to

2131
01:42:53,612 --> 01:42:56,213
Speaker 2: be running a compost situation, wouldn't you.

2132
01:42:56,333 --> 01:42:59,732
Speaker 3: Well you'd say that I tried to run a compost situation.

2133
01:42:59,853 --> 01:43:01,452
Speaker 3: Then in our place in christ Us, we were lucky

2134
01:43:01,492 --> 01:43:03,612
Speaker 3: enough to have a section a lot more Edmond than

2135
01:43:03,692 --> 01:43:06,013
Speaker 3: I thought it was. Apparently you've got to stack it,

2136
01:43:06,093 --> 01:43:08,692
Speaker 3: so a little bit of like grass or hedge tram

2137
01:43:08,732 --> 01:43:10,532
Speaker 3: means then a bit of fruit and kind of stack

2138
01:43:10,572 --> 01:43:11,772
Speaker 3: it that way to get the best out of it

2139
01:43:11,893 --> 01:43:13,973
Speaker 3: or otherwise it just turns into a stinky mess. And

2140
01:43:14,053 --> 01:43:15,892
Speaker 3: of course I just put fruit in their whole chickens,

2141
01:43:15,973 --> 01:43:17,812
Speaker 3: just whatever, not much grass or hedge.

2142
01:43:18,333 --> 01:43:21,732
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's how I put the splint on that.

2143
01:43:21,732 --> 01:43:24,333
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's a that's a you're an idiot problem,

2144
01:43:24,492 --> 01:43:26,893
Speaker 2: as opposed to the whole posting thing. That does not

2145
01:43:27,013 --> 01:43:28,932
Speaker 2: sound like a lot. But I had a waste disposal,

2146
01:43:28,973 --> 01:43:30,452
Speaker 2: you know, and you could have turned it into a

2147
01:43:30,572 --> 01:43:35,092
Speaker 2: nice project and you could have embraced the process. David,

2148
01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:38,452
Speaker 2: you work in recycling, well we can.

2149
01:43:38,532 --> 01:43:41,572
Speaker 9: Recycling work for a company called christ Clean, and part

2150
01:43:41,612 --> 01:43:46,333
Speaker 9: of our corporate sustainability, we have this really cool project

2151
01:43:46,412 --> 01:43:48,293
Speaker 9: we've been running for the last sort of five or

2152
01:43:48,333 --> 01:43:52,533
Speaker 9: six years called Recycled kiwied So look up recycle Kiwiedt

2153
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Speaker 9: code on intent. We give away free resources.

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01:43:55,652 --> 01:43:59,052
Speaker 3: Right, this is good. I'm just looking at it now, David,

2155
01:43:59,093 --> 01:44:00,893
Speaker 3: So sorry mate to jump in there and carry on.

2156
01:44:00,933 --> 01:44:02,572
Speaker 3: So I'm just looking at recycled kiwi.

2157
01:44:03,652 --> 01:44:06,972
Speaker 9: Dot code on YEP and basically free resources. That started

2158
01:44:07,053 --> 01:44:11,333
Speaker 9: out as a idea for schools to adopt new practices

2159
01:44:11,372 --> 01:44:16,492
Speaker 9: around waste minimi minimization, and from that we've now opened

2160
01:44:16,532 --> 01:44:19,253
Speaker 9: it up to organizations and businesses who have really adopted this,

2161
01:44:20,253 --> 01:44:22,812
Speaker 9: which is really cool. And it's just there's some resources

2162
01:44:22,853 --> 01:44:26,572
Speaker 9: on there with video resources that explain things that can

2163
01:44:26,652 --> 01:44:28,572
Speaker 9: be recycled. Like I've heard one of your callers talking

2164
01:44:28,572 --> 01:44:31,492
Speaker 9: about pizza boxes being soiled, a little bit of grease.

2165
01:44:31,532 --> 01:44:34,053
Speaker 9: It's fine as long as it's clean, it can be recycled.

2166
01:44:35,572 --> 01:44:38,093
Speaker 9: Plastic bottle tops, they can be recycled if you've taken

2167
01:44:38,133 --> 01:44:42,133
Speaker 9: to certain designated areas, but recycled. Kili is the one

2168
01:44:42,173 --> 01:44:47,253
Speaker 9: stop shop. We've given away over seven thousand packs which

2169
01:44:47,333 --> 01:44:54,652
Speaker 9: includes stickers, posters, informational brochures and stuff within and it's

2170
01:44:54,692 --> 01:44:56,812
Speaker 9: all free. All you have to do is order the

2171
01:44:56,853 --> 01:44:58,652
Speaker 9: pack and it'll be delivered to your business and then

2172
01:44:58,692 --> 01:45:03,372
Speaker 9: you can set up your own waste minimum minimization set up.

2173
01:45:03,412 --> 01:45:04,852
Speaker 9: You can do it at home as well. It's really

2174
01:45:04,893 --> 01:45:05,412
Speaker 9: really easy.

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01:45:05,692 --> 01:45:09,053
Speaker 2: Oh well, good on you, David. So when you say

2176
01:45:09,093 --> 01:45:11,893
Speaker 2: when when you say these this waste minimization, is that

2177
01:45:12,173 --> 01:45:17,492
Speaker 2: utilizing the council recycling bins and rubbish collection or is

2178
01:45:17,572 --> 01:45:21,293
Speaker 2: this is this outside of that that can be it's

2179
01:45:21,372 --> 01:45:21,692
Speaker 2: part of.

2180
01:45:21,732 --> 01:45:26,813
Speaker 9: It, and it's just sort of it breaks that misunderstanding

2181
01:45:26,853 --> 01:45:29,052
Speaker 9: of what you can and can't do with what we provide.

2182
01:45:29,093 --> 01:45:33,652
Speaker 9: It's simplified the stickers. The posters explained things the certain

2183
01:45:33,652 --> 01:45:36,532
Speaker 9: plastic criterias as well one, twos, threes and sevens and

2184
01:45:36,652 --> 01:45:39,052
Speaker 9: five and so we're just sort of trying to mystify

2185
01:45:39,093 --> 01:45:42,293
Speaker 9: all that with simple right straight up. You know New

2186
01:45:42,372 --> 01:45:46,692
Speaker 9: Zealand recycling standards that we're followed. So yeah, it's just

2187
01:45:46,812 --> 01:45:49,572
Speaker 9: there for anyone to look and you know, watch some

2188
01:45:49,692 --> 01:45:52,133
Speaker 9: of the videos we've done. If we've got a local

2189
01:45:52,173 --> 01:45:55,812
Speaker 9: ambassador who's an up and comings pro surfer, he's helping.

2190
01:45:55,692 --> 01:46:00,173
Speaker 2: Us run this as well with the game so news

2191
01:46:00,213 --> 01:46:01,852
Speaker 2: you can use what's what's the site again.

2192
01:46:01,732 --> 01:46:05,213
Speaker 9: David recycle KII dot co dot nz.

2193
01:46:05,692 --> 01:46:07,812
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call. Nice check it out if

2194
01:46:07,853 --> 01:46:09,293
Speaker 2: you want to have the is because I feel like

2195
01:46:09,572 --> 01:46:12,412
Speaker 2: in recycling they lost a lot of us when they

2196
01:46:12,572 --> 01:46:14,333
Speaker 2: listed all the different types of plastics and all the

2197
01:46:14,372 --> 01:46:16,333
Speaker 2: different types of things you could do. And you can

2198
01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:19,973
Speaker 2: understand why they did because of how they're recycling. They

2199
01:46:20,133 --> 01:46:22,692
Speaker 2: you know that you know the contamination and the trucks

2200
01:46:22,772 --> 01:46:24,812
Speaker 2: or whatever. But as soon as you tell people that

2201
01:46:24,933 --> 01:46:28,093
Speaker 2: are tired after work and you know are battling away

2202
01:46:28,692 --> 01:46:32,612
Speaker 2: and paying their taxes and you know, dealing with their kids.

2203
01:46:34,053 --> 01:46:35,572
Speaker 2: And then you've got to run down a chart of

2204
01:46:35,612 --> 01:46:37,893
Speaker 2: what you can recycle and what you can not do.

2205
01:46:38,372 --> 01:46:41,972
Speaker 2: Human nature is going to as such that a large

2206
01:46:41,973 --> 01:46:43,933
Speaker 2: percentage of us are just going to check out of

2207
01:46:43,973 --> 01:46:44,293
Speaker 2: it right.

2208
01:46:44,652 --> 01:46:47,333
Speaker 3: It gets too hard. And the rules were different in

2209
01:46:47,412 --> 01:46:49,612
Speaker 3: different towns, which made no sense. And then you know,

2210
01:46:49,973 --> 01:46:52,333
Speaker 3: recently they changed the rules on the pizza boxes. Used

2211
01:46:52,333 --> 01:46:53,933
Speaker 3: to be okay in the green Burn, Now it's not

2212
01:46:55,013 --> 01:46:56,732
Speaker 3: Caroline food scraps.

2213
01:46:57,333 --> 01:46:59,973
Speaker 4: Your thoughts Caroline.

2214
01:46:59,532 --> 01:47:02,372
Speaker 8: Here, Hi guys. The one thing that I haven't heard

2215
01:47:02,452 --> 01:47:05,892
Speaker 8: any callers talk about. On the back of our rate

2216
01:47:05,973 --> 01:47:11,012
Speaker 8: slots were charged eighty one dollars nineteen for waste management

2217
01:47:11,213 --> 01:47:15,572
Speaker 8: food scrap service that gets charged to everybody that's a

2218
01:47:15,732 --> 01:47:19,613
Speaker 8: rate notors. They never asked us, who have in syncorators,

2219
01:47:20,452 --> 01:47:23,933
Speaker 8: whether we needed these little green bins. But however, I

2220
01:47:24,093 --> 01:47:27,572
Speaker 8: have one, and I love my own syncreator. But my

2221
01:47:27,732 --> 01:47:30,133
Speaker 8: green bin has never been used. My baby thing that

2222
01:47:30,213 --> 01:47:33,053
Speaker 8: I'm supposed to put in the kitchen somewhere, which it

2223
01:47:33,213 --> 01:47:36,052
Speaker 8: never came near the kitchen. But no one has said

2224
01:47:36,333 --> 01:47:42,053
Speaker 8: about the charge that they put on the rates, notus said, everybody,

2225
01:47:43,013 --> 01:47:45,612
Speaker 8: whether they use a little bit or not, gets charged.

2226
01:47:46,572 --> 01:47:49,812
Speaker 8: So when they stop these little green bins, we pay

2227
01:47:49,853 --> 01:47:51,612
Speaker 8: nearly three thousand a year for rates.

2228
01:47:51,692 --> 01:47:53,172
Speaker 21: But if they stop these little.

2229
01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:55,852
Speaker 8: Green bins, are they going to refund the money they've

2230
01:47:55,893 --> 01:47:59,692
Speaker 8: already charged us for the years that we've never used us.

2231
01:47:59,893 --> 01:48:03,333
Speaker 3: That would make logical scenes, But good luck on their account, Carolyn.

2232
01:48:04,973 --> 01:48:06,612
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing that you say, you know, the

2233
01:48:06,652 --> 01:48:09,372
Speaker 2: little green bins are supposed to be in your kitchen.

2234
01:48:09,492 --> 01:48:11,293
Speaker 2: I mean that's the idea of it. Because they're so small,

2235
01:48:11,333 --> 01:48:12,892
Speaker 2: it would be kind of weird. Although some people did

2236
01:48:12,973 --> 01:48:15,052
Speaker 2: say that they were running a systeam a lunch box,

2237
01:48:15,093 --> 01:48:18,012
Speaker 2: that they were ferying up and down or where where

2238
01:48:18,013 --> 01:48:20,932
Speaker 2: their thing is. But you know, in a lot of kitchens,

2239
01:48:20,973 --> 01:48:22,772
Speaker 2: if you're an apartment, say, for example, you don't really

2240
01:48:22,812 --> 01:48:26,452
Speaker 2: have room even for the humiliating little green bin in there.

2241
01:48:27,133 --> 01:48:31,572
Speaker 2: And and and some people and also the kind it's

2242
01:48:31,612 --> 01:48:34,652
Speaker 2: kind of like wheelibins are generally in the garage or

2243
01:48:34,853 --> 01:48:35,452
Speaker 2: just outside.

2244
01:48:36,452 --> 01:48:38,013
Speaker 3: If they stink a little bit, at least you've got

2245
01:48:38,093 --> 01:48:39,812
Speaker 3: some wind flow there to help things along.

2246
01:48:39,893 --> 01:48:42,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not normally kept in the kitchen, and there's

2247
01:48:42,492 --> 01:48:43,893
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are very kitchen proud that

2248
01:48:44,053 --> 01:48:47,093
Speaker 2: they have designed their kitchen very specifically, and they don't

2249
01:48:47,133 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 2: want to neighbors.

2250
01:48:49,053 --> 01:48:51,972
Speaker 8: And the rubbers from Man's been because they're still out

2251
01:48:52,093 --> 01:48:54,452
Speaker 8: when I get mining, and then they know that their

2252
01:48:54,492 --> 01:48:57,732
Speaker 8: bins are being collected. And the two little green bins

2253
01:48:57,812 --> 01:48:59,932
Speaker 8: that I get in have either got a little white

2254
01:49:00,013 --> 01:49:03,572
Speaker 8: rooms wiggling around in them. All the food is still

2255
01:49:03,732 --> 01:49:07,133
Speaker 8: stuck in the bottom, which hasn't you know, when he's

2256
01:49:07,173 --> 01:49:10,572
Speaker 8: shaken it into his track, it hasn't fallen out. So

2257
01:49:11,412 --> 01:49:14,732
Speaker 8: those ones aren't using little plastic bags for these people

2258
01:49:14,772 --> 01:49:15,253
Speaker 8: that live.

2259
01:49:15,173 --> 01:49:15,892
Speaker 13: Up right aways.

2260
01:49:17,452 --> 01:49:20,452
Speaker 8: But the thing is, the point that I really wanted

2261
01:49:20,492 --> 01:49:23,692
Speaker 8: to make is the money that everybody is charged and

2262
01:49:23,893 --> 01:49:27,812
Speaker 8: we weren't asked, We were just targeted on our rates.

2263
01:49:28,093 --> 01:49:30,492
Speaker 8: You had up all the people all around that got

2264
01:49:30,532 --> 01:49:33,772
Speaker 8: a green bun. The money that they raked in at

2265
01:49:33,812 --> 01:49:36,492
Speaker 8: eighty one dollars a year, I think must have been

2266
01:49:36,692 --> 01:49:38,253
Speaker 8: quite a nice one fall for them.

2267
01:49:38,732 --> 01:49:40,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Caroline. And that goes back to the

2268
01:49:40,532 --> 01:49:45,972
Speaker 2: topic of one o'clock around voting in local body elections,

2269
01:49:46,013 --> 01:49:49,333
Speaker 2: so you get the people that do what you want

2270
01:49:49,372 --> 01:49:51,452
Speaker 2: them to do. Although to be fair, This was mandated

2271
01:49:51,492 --> 01:49:54,293
Speaker 2: by the government, wasn't it. This is manvated by central government.

2272
01:49:54,333 --> 01:49:58,852
Speaker 2: Has just recently been rolled back. Those something to deal

2273
01:49:58,933 --> 01:49:59,932
Speaker 2: with the food scraps.

2274
01:50:00,013 --> 01:50:02,772
Speaker 3: But just on that, why did Wang and Nui get

2275
01:50:02,812 --> 01:50:04,932
Speaker 3: to cancel a the last minute? They must have mucked

2276
01:50:04,933 --> 01:50:08,293
Speaker 3: around a lot longer. I mean Auckland council. It was mandated,

2277
01:50:08,452 --> 01:50:10,253
Speaker 3: but Auckland Councils said, oh, we don't want to do it,

2278
01:50:10,333 --> 01:50:12,213
Speaker 3: but it's mandated, so let's just get it done. Well

2279
01:50:12,412 --> 01:50:12,852
Speaker 3: it quickly.

2280
01:50:14,013 --> 01:50:16,133
Speaker 2: It was mandated that it had to come in by

2281
01:50:16,812 --> 01:50:20,133
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven a right, So the people that bought

2282
01:50:20,133 --> 01:50:22,213
Speaker 2: it in earlier were just getting it, you know, trying

2283
01:50:22,253 --> 01:50:23,692
Speaker 2: to be at the front of the class with their

2284
01:50:23,772 --> 01:50:26,012
Speaker 2: legs crossed and their hand up to impress the teacher.

2285
01:50:26,053 --> 01:50:27,652
Speaker 3: Should have procrastinated like Wanganui.

2286
01:50:27,812 --> 01:50:30,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe they were so efficient to get

2287
01:50:30,732 --> 01:50:32,053
Speaker 2: around to doing something yet.

2288
01:50:33,173 --> 01:50:34,973
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2289
01:50:35,013 --> 01:50:37,333
Speaker 3: number of court. It is a quarter to four.

2290
01:50:39,532 --> 01:50:43,173
Speaker 1: Mattith Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

2291
01:50:43,213 --> 01:50:46,213
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo

2292
01:50:46,532 --> 01:50:50,293
Speaker 1: xc N eighty tick every box, a seamless experience Awaits

2293
01:50:50,412 --> 01:50:51,213
Speaker 1: News Talks V.

2294
01:50:51,652 --> 01:50:54,173
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and we're talking about the little Green Bins

2295
01:50:54,213 --> 01:50:57,372
Speaker 3: after Wanganui said no more and have pulled that service,

2296
01:50:57,492 --> 01:50:59,732
Speaker 3: but it is still in place in many parts of

2297
01:50:59,812 --> 01:51:02,492
Speaker 3: the country, including Auckland and I believe Wellington as well.

2298
01:51:02,772 --> 01:51:05,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good point. Actually, I've forgotten all kinds

2299
01:51:05,732 --> 01:51:07,133
Speaker 2: of things about the little Green bin because I got

2300
01:51:07,173 --> 01:51:08,333
Speaker 2: rid of them for ages and I'm just looking at

2301
01:51:08,532 --> 01:51:10,692
Speaker 2: the outside of them, not being outside, if you know

2302
01:51:10,732 --> 01:51:12,372
Speaker 2: what I mean. Yep, I'm looking at the bins from

2303
01:51:12,372 --> 01:51:15,172
Speaker 2: the outside. But the little Green bins were designed to outside.

2304
01:51:15,213 --> 01:51:17,492
Speaker 2: They came with an even smaller cream bench top bin.

2305
01:51:18,013 --> 01:51:20,572
Speaker 2: So the two bins arrived and they also arrived with

2306
01:51:20,612 --> 01:51:23,893
Speaker 2: plastic bags. Yeah so so yeah, I take back that

2307
01:51:24,013 --> 01:51:26,372
Speaker 2: it would be humiliating having a weally bin in your kitchen.

2308
01:51:26,532 --> 01:51:26,692
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2309
01:51:28,053 --> 01:51:31,973
Speaker 2: I've been corrected there and I appreciate it. Jenny. You

2310
01:51:32,093 --> 01:51:34,293
Speaker 2: think the whole things are no brainer when it comes

2311
01:51:34,372 --> 01:51:36,492
Speaker 2: with getting rid of waste.

2312
01:51:37,973 --> 01:51:42,412
Speaker 24: Hi, guys, Yes, I do, because I have saved money.

2313
01:51:42,532 --> 01:51:45,692
Speaker 24: I'd say, my waistemaster broke down and I thought, well,

2314
01:51:45,692 --> 01:51:49,053
Speaker 24: I'm not going to replace that. I save money on

2315
01:51:49,213 --> 01:51:51,933
Speaker 24: water because I don't use my waistmaster, and I have

2316
01:51:52,093 --> 01:51:55,652
Speaker 24: very little rubbish. And in our streets and Cintelia's, which

2317
01:51:55,732 --> 01:51:58,693
Speaker 24: is very long streets, there are green bins.

2318
01:51:58,452 --> 01:52:00,412
Speaker 3: All the way down the street right, so they got

2319
01:52:00,452 --> 01:52:03,253
Speaker 3: it st Helia's as well. But honestly, called, Jenny, do

2320
01:52:03,293 --> 01:52:05,293
Speaker 3: you miss the waste disposal unit a little bit?

2321
01:52:05,333 --> 01:52:05,452
Speaker 19: You know?

2322
01:52:05,532 --> 01:52:08,452
Speaker 3: It's quite cathartic just hearing that grinding in.

2323
01:52:09,412 --> 01:52:12,093
Speaker 24: No, not at all, and then it gets clamped up

2324
01:52:12,213 --> 01:52:14,492
Speaker 24: and then you have to call a plumber. And I

2325
01:52:14,732 --> 01:52:16,692
Speaker 24: saved money and you also save.

2326
01:52:16,612 --> 01:52:17,173
Speaker 8: A lot of water.

2327
01:52:17,412 --> 01:52:19,253
Speaker 2: What are you putting down it, Jenny? That's clogging it?

2328
01:52:19,812 --> 01:52:21,532
Speaker 2: Not You're not putting banana skins down there, are you?

2329
01:52:22,732 --> 01:52:22,772
Speaker 15: No?

2330
01:52:24,133 --> 01:52:25,892
Speaker 2: Have you ever tried to put a whole chicken down there?

2331
01:52:28,853 --> 01:52:29,293
Speaker 2: I tried that.

2332
01:52:29,532 --> 01:52:30,452
Speaker 3: What idiot would do that?

2333
01:52:30,612 --> 01:52:32,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bad idea, fell out, The bottom

2334
01:52:33,612 --> 01:52:35,012
Speaker 2: just went climbed, hit the ground.

2335
01:52:37,133 --> 01:52:40,452
Speaker 24: I just think it's I use it quite easily, and

2336
01:52:40,572 --> 01:52:42,492
Speaker 24: I have a little of the yellow the yellow bin

2337
01:52:43,013 --> 01:52:47,013
Speaker 24: under I've got a small place under the bench from

2338
01:52:47,053 --> 01:52:49,452
Speaker 24: the kitchen. Then I just freeze the stuff when it's

2339
01:52:49,532 --> 01:52:51,333
Speaker 24: full and then put it out in the green and

2340
01:52:51,412 --> 01:52:52,852
Speaker 24: when it's ready.

2341
01:52:53,333 --> 01:52:55,932
Speaker 2: So that's interesting. So the places that we've heard from

2342
01:52:56,572 --> 01:52:59,773
Speaker 2: that that are doing it in the streets aligned Buckland's

2343
01:52:59,812 --> 01:53:04,253
Speaker 2: Beach yep, some hell he is, nor Shore, a couple

2344
01:53:04,293 --> 01:53:07,972
Speaker 2: of streets. I wonder what it is about different areas

2345
01:53:08,013 --> 01:53:10,852
Speaker 2: that have embraced the little green bins and areas that haven't.

2346
01:53:10,893 --> 01:53:14,492
Speaker 2: Because definitely in my area and I live in Central Auckland,

2347
01:53:16,333 --> 01:53:19,093
Speaker 2: then hardly anyone's using them, yep. But then Jenny, in

2348
01:53:19,133 --> 01:53:20,932
Speaker 2: your area, lots of people are using them. So that's

2349
01:53:21,053 --> 01:53:25,492
Speaker 2: that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, all right, I can't understand. Yeah,

2350
01:53:25,492 --> 01:53:27,932
Speaker 2: I don't know why. But anyway, good on you, Jenny,

2351
01:53:27,933 --> 01:53:28,452
Speaker 2: thank you for cool.

2352
01:53:28,452 --> 01:53:31,412
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that Mount Wellington not much use either.

2353
01:53:32,492 --> 01:53:34,532
Speaker 2: We go strawberries in our little green bin, says the

2354
01:53:34,532 --> 01:53:37,253
Speaker 2: sticks there. That is smart, lovely, it is very nice.

2355
01:53:37,612 --> 01:53:37,772
Speaker 20: Right.

2356
01:53:37,973 --> 01:53:39,612
Speaker 3: We're going to wrap this up very shortly, but if

2357
01:53:39,612 --> 01:53:41,772
Speaker 3: you want to get an eight hundred and eighty ten eighties,

2358
01:53:41,812 --> 01:53:42,852
Speaker 3: then i'mber to call nine to.

2359
01:53:42,893 --> 01:53:50,213
Speaker 1: Four the big stories, the big issues, the big trends,

2360
01:53:50,372 --> 01:53:51,772
Speaker 1: and everything in between.

2361
01:53:52,093 --> 01:53:55,372
Speaker 4: Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety.

2362
01:53:55,572 --> 01:53:58,572
Speaker 1: Attention to detail and a commitment to comfort news Dogs

2363
01:53:58,572 --> 01:54:01,293
Speaker 1: Debb on news doalgs edb.

2364
01:54:01,973 --> 01:54:06,612
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, It is six to four Don, good afternoon,

2365
01:54:07,772 --> 01:54:08,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

2366
01:54:08,732 --> 01:54:08,892
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I live in Glendali. The green recycling bins mostly out

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01:54:13,452 --> 01:54:16,412
Speaker 14: in front of people's places. You have a little kitchen caddy.

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01:54:16,853 --> 01:54:19,692
Speaker 14: Look at saving a lot of money on not using

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01:54:19,812 --> 01:54:24,213
Speaker 14: water to put stuff down the waste the gurgler. And

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01:54:24,372 --> 01:54:28,293
Speaker 14: also you're not overburdening the wastewater system. So I think

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01:54:28,452 --> 01:54:31,492
Speaker 14: to not use it is a bit selfish, you know,

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01:54:32,173 --> 01:54:34,893
Speaker 14: don't contribute to the problem. The next thing is the

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01:54:35,013 --> 01:54:37,772
Speaker 14: other thing? Is there any other point? Is that eventually

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01:54:37,933 --> 01:54:40,693
Speaker 14: our rubbish bins are going to be weighed. And since

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01:54:40,772 --> 01:54:44,253
Speaker 14: we've been recycling more and using the scraps, have been

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01:54:44,293 --> 01:54:47,573
Speaker 14: going out every week, we don't have very much in

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01:54:47,653 --> 01:54:51,772
Speaker 14: our rubbish bin at all. You will be getting they

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01:54:51,772 --> 01:54:53,892
Speaker 14: will be getting weighed and you will be getting charged

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01:54:54,253 --> 01:54:55,653
Speaker 14: for the weight you put out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: Where did you say you were, Don, Glen Dowie, Glen Dowie.

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01:54:59,493 --> 01:55:02,133
Speaker 2: So a lot of little little green bins out in

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01:55:02,253 --> 01:55:04,733
Speaker 2: Glen Dowie, because there's been a war of words around

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01:55:04,772 --> 01:55:07,053
Speaker 2: where they are. Someone said before that there's a lot

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01:55:07,093 --> 01:55:09,253
Speaker 2: out in sin hell he is this business. There's a

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01:55:09,253 --> 01:55:11,013
Speaker 2: load of rubbish part in the punt saying hele is

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01:55:11,013 --> 01:55:11,733
Speaker 2: don't use them at all.

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Speaker 3: Right again, Glenn Daler, a very nice part of open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess the thing is thanks for you

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01:55:18,133 --> 01:55:19,573
Speaker 2: called don guess the thing.

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01:55:19,613 --> 01:55:19,852
Speaker 4: It's not.

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01:55:20,053 --> 01:55:21,852
Speaker 2: It's not just a one for one though, is it.

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01:55:21,933 --> 01:55:25,453
Speaker 2: Because if you put them down then syncreated, that's fine whatever.

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01:55:26,013 --> 01:55:28,613
Speaker 2: But the little green bins are being picked up by

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01:55:28,733 --> 01:55:32,892
Speaker 2: trucks and transported around everywhere, so it's not like it's

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01:55:32,973 --> 01:55:36,453
Speaker 2: exactly environmentally friendly. There's still a lot involved in picking

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01:55:36,493 --> 01:55:36,772
Speaker 2: them up.

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01:55:36,973 --> 01:55:40,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, and particularly if they made five hundred thousand odds

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01:55:40,333 --> 01:55:42,972
Speaker 3: and people like you who have just recycled them again

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01:55:43,053 --> 01:55:45,213
Speaker 3: in your recycled bed, which is fair enough too. I'm

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01:55:45,253 --> 01:55:46,253
Speaker 3: sure a lot of people did that. Well.

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01:55:46,293 --> 01:55:48,373
Speaker 2: This text here in nine two nine two says put

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01:55:48,413 --> 01:55:49,733
Speaker 2: the green bin in the balloon bin.

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01:55:49,853 --> 01:55:50,253
Speaker 10: There you go.

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01:55:51,093 --> 01:55:52,453
Speaker 3: That's exactly what metts.

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01:55:53,693 --> 01:55:56,493
Speaker 2: And look, whether you agree with incincreators or not, I

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01:55:56,853 --> 01:55:59,293
Speaker 2: disagree with people that say they aren't fun. Yeah, I

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01:55:59,453 --> 01:56:02,493
Speaker 2: mean that's one of the joys of cocking. You chop

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01:56:02,613 --> 01:56:03,972
Speaker 2: things up and you just put it in the sink.

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01:56:04,213 --> 01:56:04,772
Speaker 2: Turn on them.

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01:56:07,213 --> 01:56:08,212
Speaker 3: It's so cathartic.

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01:56:08,413 --> 01:56:11,012
Speaker 2: It's a good time. And look, I believe the cleaning

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01:56:11,173 --> 01:56:13,373
Speaker 2: up is as important as the cooking. Yeah, if you're

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01:56:13,373 --> 01:56:13,973
Speaker 2: clean as you go.

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01:56:14,613 --> 01:56:18,333
Speaker 3: Just something about destroying something like onion peels or banana peels,

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01:56:18,373 --> 01:56:19,852
Speaker 3: isn't it. It's like a good fire.

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01:56:20,013 --> 01:56:22,173
Speaker 2: Can I get my own syncreator plumbed into my little

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01:56:22,213 --> 01:56:23,733
Speaker 2: green bin and then I can make everyone happy?

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01:56:23,772 --> 01:56:25,653
Speaker 3: Can we get an in syncreator in the studio here?

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01:56:25,733 --> 01:56:28,092
Speaker 3: That's what we need right think.

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01:56:27,973 --> 01:56:29,733
Speaker 2: We could put a lot of your comments that you

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01:56:29,812 --> 01:56:31,533
Speaker 2: make down it because they're rubbish tiler.

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01:56:32,213 --> 01:56:35,373
Speaker 3: That's why they pay them the big bucks. Folks, thank

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01:56:35,413 --> 01:56:38,373
Speaker 3: you very much for today. Really enjoy that. We'll do

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01:56:38,453 --> 01:56:40,093
Speaker 3: it all again tomorrow and.

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Speaker 2: They keep it green.

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