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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. Heather Duplicy

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Speaker 1: alot on the mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life,

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the show. No surprise, the

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Speaker 2: ocr hasn't moved. No surprise the economy is actually not

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Speaker 2: looking flash at all. We'll speak to the Finance Minister

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis after seven. Shane Jones has probably working up

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Speaker 2: furious this morning. His favorite gold mine just got told

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Speaker 2: no because of lizards. Now, if you've got a property

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Speaker 2: at risk of climate change flooding, you need to listen up.

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Speaker 2: You may only have twenty years to sort it out

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Speaker 2: before the money drives up. And by the way, do

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Speaker 2: you realize it's been twenty years since outrageous fortune hit

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Speaker 2: our screens for the first time. We'll speak to Antonia

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Speaker 2: Prebble about that after eight.

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Speaker 1: Ever, duplicy La, how good is.

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Speaker 2: That news that the days of taking your shoes off

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Speaker 2: at the airport are over? Yes because it was an inconvenience, Yes,

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Speaker 2: because it added security costs, but also because it was

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Speaker 2: pointless and we all knew it. The reason we did

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Speaker 2: it was, you'll know this by now because the shoe bomber,

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Speaker 2: Richard Reid, remember him, He had the explode in his

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Speaker 2: shoes in two thousand and one. The bombs didn't even work.

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Speaker 2: And even though the bombs didn't even work, he's had

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Speaker 2: the developed will taking its shoes off for nearly twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Didn't keep the bombs off planes, though, did it? Because

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Speaker 2: someone sewed them into the undeas someone hid them in

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Speaker 2: the printer charger cartridges. Someone hit them in a laptop.

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Speaker 2: So if shoes were were not the only way, it

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Speaker 2: was just one way. Then honing in on them so

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Speaker 2: excessively it was just a performance, wasn't it. It was the

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Speaker 2: theater of security. In fact, you could argue that the

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Speaker 2: massive airport screening that we have nowadays is an overreaction

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Speaker 2: and probably also maybe just theater. It was introduced to calm,

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Speaker 2: calm flyers who were nervous about nine to eleven, because

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Speaker 2: before nine eleven there were hardly any hijackings. Airport security

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Speaker 2: was already doing its job, but it got beefed up

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Speaker 2: after nine eleven. Anyway, there were limits on liquids, there

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Speaker 2: was random screening, the body scanners, bag scanners and q's

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Speaker 2: and q's and q's. Some say it was a massive

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Speaker 2: reaction to a high profile aberration. It's added maybe three

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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars in security costs at airports. You pay

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Speaker 2: for that. It's added five dollars sixty US to the

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Speaker 2: price of every ticket in the States through what they

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Speaker 2: call the September eleven security fee. It's had us missing

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Speaker 2: planes for nearly twenty five years, but it made us

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Speaker 2: feel better. But apart from two high profile hijackings, we

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Speaker 2: didn't actually have a major problem to fix. Now we

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Speaker 2: are finally getting around to unwinding the rules right some airports.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we said removing the liquids limit. You can now

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Speaker 2: keep your high tops on. If there is a lesson here,

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Speaker 2: it's not to introduce rules for the sake of introducing rules.

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Speaker 2: It might make you feel better for what twenty years,

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Speaker 2: and then everyone will realize in the end, it's just

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Speaker 2: a dumb rule.

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Speaker 1: Wow, news of the world. In ninety seconds, we.

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Speaker 2: Have got more flash flooding, this time in New Mexico.

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Speaker 3: It didn't look like it was going to be this massive,

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Speaker 3: but it was. It hit hard, it hit fast. We

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Speaker 3: did reach all of our bridges. We did lose some

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Speaker 3: more homes. We have some folks that are missing.

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Speaker 2: Back in Texas, and the questions won't go away about

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Speaker 2: that flood response.

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Speaker 4: Kirk County is eleven hundred square miles, a beautiful complex

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Speaker 4: hill country. There are rural areas that may experience extended

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Speaker 4: response times, areas work sell services, body resident doctors.

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Speaker 2: Over in the UK are striking again at the end

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Speaker 2: of the month and we're streating. The UK Health Secretary

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Speaker 2: could not be more shocked about it.

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Speaker 5: The BMA's behavior is unreasonable because they've had a twenty

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Speaker 5: eight point nine percent pay rise. There isn't a precedent

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Speaker 5: in British trade union history for people going out on

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Speaker 2: Now that reports into the infected blood scandal in the

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Speaker 2: UK has found the government's compost scheme isn't exactly fit

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Speaker 2: for purpose.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's too late to put things right,

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Speaker 6: and I think with the will, things can be made

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Speaker 6: fairer and things can be made faster.

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Speaker 2: This victim is still waiting for his claim to be accepted.

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Speaker 7: Turned into another horror story, a scandal and a scandal.

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Speaker 7: I'm having to vindicate what they did to me again.

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Speaker 7: I feel like they're not listening in again the claims

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Speaker 7: managers not listening in the who are not listening And

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Speaker 7: I'm having to relive the whole process.

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Speaker 2: To the UK and France love and they've agreed on

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Speaker 2: a need for a micro and boat crossing deterrent as

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Speaker 1: They can't give me an opportunity like.

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Speaker 2: To succeed or to do whatever that I need to

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Speaker 2: do in my life. Late and finally, the US has

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Speaker 2: canceled a rule that would have made it easier to

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Speaker 2: get out of your gym subscription that you signed up

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Speaker 2: just six months ago and have gone maybe three or

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Speaker 2: four times in the period. During Biden's time, they passed

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Speaker 2: the so called trick to Cancel rule, which allowed, among

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Speaker 2: into effect next week, but the US Appeals Called has

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Speaker 2: blocked it. And that's against the public, the popular public vote.

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Speaker 2: So in America, you either need to keep paying or

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Speaker 2: you actually just need to go to the gym, and

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Speaker 2: that is news of the world. In ninety seconds, now

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Speaker 2: a big moment for Nvideo. Overnight became the first company

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Speaker 2: in the world to reach a market value of four

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Speaker 2: trillion US dollars. And this is obviously on the back

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Speaker 2: of the ongoing demand for AI, which means ongoing demand

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Speaker 2: for in videos, tech and so on. Shares went up

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Speaker 2: two point four percent in training. This is the interesting

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Speaker 2: thing about in video. It has quadrupled its value in

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Speaker 2: just the space of two years. This time twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: that reached a market value of one trillion dollars for

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Speaker 2: the first time. We thought that was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Now for trillion. Six twelve.

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Speaker 2: Oh, We're going to talk a little bit about welfare

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Speaker 2: on the program. There are some interesting numbers out of

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Speaker 2: the UK. I'm going to run you through shortly right now,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Gay Heather Right. Okay, So as expected, Ocra is

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Speaker 2: being held what he reckons the story here?

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Speaker 8: Yes, it wasn't that exciting in the end, was it?

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Speaker 8: You know, they left the ocr and changed. That was

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Speaker 8: the market expectation. So a lot of that's been well

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Speaker 8: covered since it came out your staff and it got yeah,

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Speaker 8: where's it actually leave us? You know, what's the story?

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Speaker 8: I think as vera sort of taking a wee step

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Speaker 8: and the whole sort of economic interest rate cycle, because

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Speaker 8: now for the run of interest rate cards, assuming the

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Speaker 8: interest rate cards, that's mostly in the rear vision mirror.

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Speaker 8: We're pretty much there.

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Speaker 9: We're in the zone now.

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Speaker 8: Where we get the benefit of these lower fixed strate mortgages,

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Speaker 8: So the extra dollars will now start flowing into people's pockets.

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Speaker 8: That continues from now sort of through to Christmas for

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Speaker 8: I think we can legitimately start asking the question where's

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Speaker 1: Where is it?

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Speaker 8: Because you know, you know, that's part of the story.

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Speaker 8: Another key feature is that if we don't get that lift,

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Speaker 8: you know, will the economy coop call even more so

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Speaker 8: we'll need the ocr lower down into the mid tiism.

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Speaker 8: Maybe we need that final push, that last sort of

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Speaker 8: we got what I think is well described as a

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Speaker 8: dubbsh pause. It's possible we'll see further reasons. Inflation pressures

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Speaker 8: bank's mindful in the short term that inflation outcomes to

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Speaker 8: move higher. You close to the top of that target

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Speaker 8: Betweenty twenty five can't escape it. You look at the

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Speaker 8: record of the meeting. How they should always read the

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Speaker 8: record of the meeting. That's where the good stuff is.

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Speaker 8: There was debate over a pause or a cut, so

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Speaker 8: healthy robust debate. We hope they did end up with

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Speaker 8: the odds are good for an August cut, they need

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's a tough job making a well informed

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Speaker 8: continue to impact global trade and global growth. Market reaction

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing in China's inflation?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so look let's look out rather than in. We

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Speaker 8: That minus three point six PPI inflation largest decline since

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Speaker 8: going on in China given very weak consumer demand, in

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Speaker 8: other words, a moribund economy that's still being knocked around

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Speaker 8: by problems in the property market, and now, of course

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Speaker 8: the global trade issue and sort of issues with exporting

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Speaker 8: as I keep saying, that's our largest trading partner. If

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Speaker 8: the global trade issue keeps that economy weak, that's not

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Speaker 8: good for US.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fairpoint. Does it sucks to be Jerome power at

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Speaker 2: the moment doesn't it.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, the political pressure on poor old Federal

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Speaker 8: So now, don only is Trump all piling in on power,

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Speaker 8: now Scott Besens is piling him on, well, piling in

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Speaker 1: Hey Stephen, good morning.

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Speaker 2: So what is going on you guys?

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Speaker 6: On the up and up we are and look, it's

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Speaker 6: Hey loo, I think the governmentor set it up to

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Speaker 2: Do you think this has stopped businesses going to Australia,

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Speaker 2: So why did you do that though, Because you can

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Speaker 6: Cents, well, thirty cents from the federal government Australia plus

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Speaker 6: It's a pretty modest rebate. Look, we also think there's

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Speaker 2: Stephen, I really appreciate having a chat to you. Look

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking texting in it sounds like exactly like something

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Speaker 13: the only one, but he was meeting Ukrainian President Vladimir

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Speaker 13: Zelenski today at his summer residence at Castel Gondorfo just

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Speaker 13: outside Rome, and that is ahead of this very important

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Speaker 13: what's called Ukraine Recovery Conference, which is taking place in

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Speaker 13: Rome tomorrow and on Friday. And this is whole all

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Speaker 13: of this is designed to put more pressure on finding

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Speaker 13: some sort of peaceful conclusion to this conflict in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to me what exactly is going on

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Speaker 2: in Libi at the moment.

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Speaker 13: Looks it's so divided. This country is so divided, and

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Speaker 13: I think it's really difficult for the European Union in particular.

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Speaker 13: Right now, it is a bit of a basket case.

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Speaker 13: It's divided in two and Eastern Libyan authorities have ordered

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Speaker 13: a EU delegation, including the Italian Interior Minister Matteo Pianta Dozi,

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Speaker 13: to leave the country. They left the country yesterday after

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Speaker 13: they'd arrived there for talks. So you essentially have two

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Speaker 13: different governments in Libya at the moment, so it is

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Speaker 13: very divided. There are still very powerful armed militias there.

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Speaker 13: There's a UN backed government of National Unity headed by

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Speaker 13: Prime Minister Abdulhamid de Badet, but that is not recognized

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Speaker 13: in other parts of the country. So it is a mess,

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Speaker 13: and the European leaders are very very concerned about the

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Speaker 13: instability there. It's also a jumping off point, as we

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Speaker 13: know from migrants crossing the Mediterranean and making their way

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Speaker 13: to Europe.

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Speaker 2: Now it seems fair enough to me that if you're

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Speaker 2: going to the theater you do not wear the jandles.

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Speaker 13: Well, this is an interesting one. The Las Gala, the

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Speaker 13: opera theater in Milan, has come out very strongly saying okay, patrons,

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Speaker 13: you can come and see our shows, but don't wear

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Speaker 13: your shorts, your tank tops or your flip flops. So

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Speaker 13: rules of conduct are going to be enforced. People are

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Speaker 13: going to be turned away if they don't choose the

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Speaker 13: right clothing, and they may not even be given a refund.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't sound like they're going to get their money

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Speaker 13: back either.

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Speaker 2: Rough Joe, thank you very much, really everything. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: that much, Joe McKenna, our Italy correspondent Master Chef. If

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Speaker 2: you are a Master Chef fan, you're going to know

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Speaker 2: the name Greg Wallace. He's been a presenter of Master

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Speaker 2: Chef in the UK for twenty years. He's been sacked

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Speaker 2: by the BBC. Now this has been coming for a

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Speaker 2: little while because Greg has been put on I guess

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Speaker 2: on leave, stepped aside from the shows since September since

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Speaker 2: November last year so they can investigate. Originally they had

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Speaker 2: about thirteen people who complained. Now they've got another fifty

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Speaker 2: people who've complained about his behavior. So total of the

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Speaker 2: complaints are at least about sixty three or over. Been

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Speaker 2: accused of groping and touching, dropping his trousers in front

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Speaker 2: of women, making gross comments. So probably my if you

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Speaker 2: can have a favorite complaint about somebody, this would be it.

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Speaker 2: He has previously admitted to one time opening his dressing

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Speaker 2: room door and shouting hooray, and when people looked at

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Speaker 2: him they found that, in fact, he was naked except

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Speaker 2: for a sock on his willie. But he said it's

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Speaker 2: okay because it was after the day's filming had finished.

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Speaker 2: So can't possibly see why they needed to get rid

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Speaker 2: of Greg? Just really lifting the workplace vibe there, Heather Morning,

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willison, instead of wasting time on supermarkets and Fonterra,

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Speaker 2: may want to look at the price gouging of our

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Speaker 2: infamous fuel industry, et cetera. It's Jules fairpoint. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what I would much rather rather than having a

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Speaker 2: crack at Fonterra, having a crack at the supermarkets, having

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Speaker 2: a crack at the banks, all of which is going

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Speaker 2: to lead to absolutely nothing, because as I said, it's

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Speaker 2: just performance. Rather than doing all of that, how about

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Speaker 2: focusing on the economy, because if there's one thing that

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Speaker 2: you got from the ocr yesterday, if you read what

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank had said, it is very clear that

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Speaker 2: they are worried about what's going on with the economy

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Speaker 2: at the minute. It is just failing to fire. They said.

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Speaker 2: The thing that they are most worried about is it

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Speaker 2: would appear, is that because it's slowed down, we are

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Speaker 2: going to start putting our money away and being worried

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Speaker 2: about it, and it will just exacerbate that. Some members

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Speaker 2: highlighted that prolonged economic uncertainty might induce further precautionary behavior

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Speaker 2: by households and firms. Such actions risk becoming mutually reinforcing

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Speaker 2: and weighing on aggregate demand, slowing the economic recovery. The

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Speaker 2: recent weaker than expected higher frequency indicators, so basically the

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Speaker 2: recent dip that we've seen in the economic activity could

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Speaker 2: be consistent with this. So possibly we are already starting

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Speaker 2: to get cautious and put our money away and not

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Speaker 2: spend money because we're worried about what the heck is

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Speaker 2: happening and what it means for our jobs. This is

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Speaker 2: as I said earlier to Andrew when I was talking

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Speaker 2: to him up to now, maybe if you're being super careful,

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Speaker 2: really kind magnanimous, you could you could have said saw

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Speaker 2: Labour's fault, and it predominantly is. But it has been

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Speaker 2: now more than eighteen months, and I would argue that

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Speaker 2: at this point this government needs to start taking responsibility

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Speaker 2: for the fact that the economies in the state that

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Speaker 2: it is. What have they done? What have they done

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Speaker 2: to make this better? We'll have a chat to Nikola

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Speaker 2: after seven o'clock eleven away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Where the duplicy Ellen on the casking breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: real estate news dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be Susan Lee. Susan Lee, Australian opposition leader, is

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Speaker 2: fast becoming my favorite Australian politician. I'm actually I'm going

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Speaker 2: to push the boat out and say probably my favorite

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Speaker 2: politician full stop. She's just given an interview to the

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Speaker 2: Australian Women's Weekly and in it she has revealed that

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Speaker 2: she once pulled a guy on a gun on a guy.

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Speaker 2: The gun was bought legally. So what happened is she

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Speaker 2: was moving to become an aerial stock muster in her youth,

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Speaker 2: which already you love about the woman. So she's moving

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Speaker 2: to become an aerial stockmuster. She's driving from her flat

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Speaker 2: in Sydney. She's going about going inland from Brisbane, driving

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Speaker 2: about a thousand k's or thereabout, pulls over for the night,

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Speaker 2: sets up her swag before a motorbike drives over. The

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Speaker 2: guy on the bike lifts his visa and says, Ah,

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Speaker 2: you're here all by yourself, are you? She says? She

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Speaker 2: looks at him, reaches over, pulls out her semi semi

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Speaker 2: automatic weapon and tells him, I'm here with my tall,

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Speaker 2: skinny mate gun. Was not loaded. Was bought legally. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I need to tell you that. But isn't

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Speaker 2: that the kind of lady leader that you want? Someone

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Speaker 2: who goes, hmmm, try messing with me seven away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the fiz with business fiber.

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Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: All right, we've got our first full trillion dollar company,

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Speaker 2: and it is neither of the first two companies to

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Speaker 2: hit the three trillion dollar mark in video. Shares are

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Speaker 2: up two percent to lift the market cap past four

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Speaker 2: trillion for the first time ever. Not unexpectedly, then, it's

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Speaker 2: also the highest market cap ever recorded for a public

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Speaker 2: traded company, after Apple got that record in December. Both

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Speaker 2: Apple and Microsoft were the ones who hit the three

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Speaker 2: trillion dollar mark first. Doesn't help Microsoft that they are

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Speaker 2: one of Invidia's biggest customers. It's been an incredibly quick

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Speaker 2: rise for video based on the growing demand for the

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Speaker 2: AI and the hardware and the chips since the launch

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Speaker 2: of chat gpt now. The company began in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: three and it passed the two trillion dollar mark in

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Speaker 2: February twenty twenty four. That's last year. Only took four

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Speaker 2: months to then hit three trillion and now four trillion

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Speaker 2: just a year after that. In Video's shares are up

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Speaker 2: fifteen percent over the last month and twenty two percent

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Speaker 2: since the start of the year. And all of this

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Speaker 2: is despite the fact that China has blocked in Video

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Speaker 2: from being able to sell their chips there, costing it

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Speaker 2: eight billion dollars and lost sales. That's the business you

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Speaker 2: wish you invested in earlier. A So Shane Jones, Look,

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Speaker 2: Shane Jones, I mean, I feel like he's always at

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Speaker 2: risk of blowing a gasket at the moment, given that

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Speaker 2: the world, to the state of the world as it is,

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Speaker 2: is driving him nuts for being too woke. But I

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Speaker 2: feel like the last twenty four hours or thereabouts probably

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Speaker 2: been a little bit tough for him because what he's

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Speaker 2: got this pet project, Mike. You would have heard him

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Speaker 2: raving about the mine and how much he hates Otago

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Speaker 2: Regional Council because it's trying to stop the mine. Well

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Speaker 2: then that was to do with the moths. Now the

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Speaker 2: mine's been hit by the lizards. Same mine. This is

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Speaker 2: the Oceana Mile mine in Central Otago, mccray's mine. The

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Speaker 2: lizards have got to do now, not with the council,

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Speaker 2: but now it's doc coming at him. So the mine

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Speaker 2: has apply for permission to expand. But in order to expand,

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Speaker 2: it needs to harvest the lizards. I know, I know,

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Speaker 2: how do you live? How do we live in this country?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we're harvesting lizards? And did you know that the

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Speaker 2: seasonal lizard salvage window is between October and November, so

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Speaker 2: they need permission. So they need this permission by the

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Speaker 2: first of October in order to be able to start

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Speaker 2: salvaging the lizards to keep the lizards alive. But DOCA

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Speaker 2: said to them, now we don't like your plan, and

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Speaker 2: so DOCA said no, canceled it. As a result, they

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Speaker 2: have that Oceana are just kind of like, what do

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Speaker 2: we do about this? And they've gone to the minister

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Speaker 2: and they're trying to get some help with it because

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Speaker 2: if this doesn't go ahead, they are threatening now that

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Speaker 2: they're going to stop the work about nine hundred people

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Speaker 2: at this if at the point that right now you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do feel quite concerned about this lizard.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, just so that you can

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Speaker 2: balance this out a wee bit, they are on track.

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Speaker 2: This is mccray's alone to contribute about seven hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars in exports this year, So I don't know, we

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Speaker 2: might want to keep them going, you know, just to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, just get the dollars in so that

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Speaker 2: we can afford to keep saving the lizards through Doc's

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Speaker 2: beautiful work. I'm going to talk to Shane Jones about

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Speaker 2: that shortly. AI. Sorry not AI, well, it is AI related.

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Speaker 2: Is actually Elon Musk just more tough news for him.

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Speaker 2: He's got an AI startup. It's called Xai that's got

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Speaker 2: a chatbot called groc Grok has been getting pretty anti

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Speaker 2: semitic over the last wee while with the tweets pretty

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Speaker 2: fond of Hitler was asked which twentieth century historical figure

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Speaker 2: would be best suited to deal with hateful posts, and

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Speaker 2: said Adolf Hitler, no question, and then celebrated the deaths

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Speaker 2: of the children in the Texas floods no surprise by

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Speaker 2: trying to trying to delete the tweets and fix Grock Well,

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Speaker 2: good luck will That not the only bit of bad

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Speaker 2: news for Elon in the last wee while Nichola Willis

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Speaker 2: with us next.

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Speaker 1: You know, ok home Well the Breakfast show, Kiwi's trust

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Speaker 1: to stay in the nome Anther Duplice Ellen on the

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Speaker 1: MI casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate all together better

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural news talks.

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Speaker 2: Had b good morning. So as expected, the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: has held the OCR at three point two five percent.

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Speaker 2: They've suggested the next move is a cut that will

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Speaker 2: happen in about six weeks time. But it's clear from

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Speaker 2: what they're saying that the economy is far from roaring

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Speaker 2: at the minute. Nicola Willis is the Finance Minisine with

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Speaker 2: us morning, Nikola, good morning here. Why isn't the economy

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Speaker 2: doing better?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 14: We had two quarters of above expected growth, so that

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Speaker 14: was in the last bit of last year. In the

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Speaker 14: first three months of this year where the growth in

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Speaker 14: the economy was faster than all of our forecasts. But

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Speaker 14: since then, there's been quite a few global developments. We've

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Speaker 14: had Donald Trump making announcements about tariffs. We've had global

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Speaker 14: back and forth on trade, We've had global conflict and

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Speaker 14: that's created uncertainty around the world and it certainly impacted

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Speaker 14: business confidence and investment intensions here in New Zealand. Despite that,

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Speaker 14: fundamentals remain good. There's every reason that we will have

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Speaker 14: kept growing, but maybe not as fast as we would

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Speaker 14: have liked.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's fair to say that some of

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Speaker 2: it has to do with what's going on globally, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of it is actually just domestic spare capacity

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Speaker 2: in the domestic economy. Why isn't it firing? I mean,

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Speaker 2: the reason I'm asking you this question is because you

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Speaker 2: said in twenty twenty three at the election that you

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Speaker 2: guys would get the economy back on track. You've had

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Speaker 2: more than eighteen months and it's far from that.

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Speaker 14: Well, there is spare capacity in the economy. And if

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Speaker 14: you go back to what I was saying earlier, what

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Speaker 14: we saw at the end of last year, in the

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Speaker 14: first three months of this year was we were literally

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Speaker 14: twice as fast in terms of our growth as had

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Speaker 14: been predicted, four times as fast as Australia was in

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Speaker 14: the first three months of the year. Then in April,

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Speaker 14: quite a major thing happened, and you saw the same

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Speaker 14: headlines as every business in New Zealand saw, which said

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Speaker 14: that this is going to be very challenging to the world,

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Speaker 14: that global growth is going to reduce.

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Speaker 15: There are going to be all of these impacts.

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Speaker 14: And like many countries around the world, the reaction and

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Speaker 14: that in New Zealand has been well, actually, we might

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Speaker 14: not have bettened down the hatches a bit now, my viewers. Okay,

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Speaker 14: that's the reaction that businesses have had. Actually, all of

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Speaker 14: the fundamentals for growth remain. We've got a business friendly

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Speaker 14: government that is on the side of those wanting to

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Speaker 14: invest and make money and create jobs and export overseas.

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Speaker 14: We are getting rid of rules and the regulations that

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Speaker 14: have in the past stood in the way and made

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Speaker 14: things harder. We've been careful with the way that we

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Speaker 14: are spending tax payers money. All of those things are

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Speaker 14: the right things to be doing and is every reason

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Speaker 14: why New Zealand should be growing in the future.

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Speaker 2: Nichola, can I talk to you about this Fonterra meeting.

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Speaker 2: What are you hoping to get out of it?

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Speaker 14: Well, I have had some interesting numbers put to me.

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Speaker 14: Heather which is that if you buy some butter at

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Speaker 14: Coal's and Willworth's right now, if you go online you

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Speaker 14: can get that for seven dollars Australia, which is ki

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Speaker 14: we seven dollars sixty or so. If you buy it

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Speaker 14: at Walworth's in New Zealand right now, it's about eight

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Speaker 14: dollars fifty.

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Speaker 2: So is that a supermarket problem though, or a Fonterra problem.

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Speaker 14: That's my quick and I don't have an answer for you,

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Speaker 14: and I want to ask both the supermarkets and Fonterra

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Speaker 14: for their perspective on what's building into that cost, what's

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Speaker 14: in that price? Is there anything the government can be

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Speaker 14: doing to reduce factors in that price? Because I accept

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Speaker 14: that the global milk price sets the general price in

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Speaker 14: fury products. I get that that's economics. But my question

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Speaker 14: is why is it seemingly a bit cheaper in Australia

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Speaker 14: than it is in New Zealand To get a block about.

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Speaker 2: It, Would it simply not be that potentially Coals is

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Speaker 2: using it as a loss leader.

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Speaker 14: Well, that seems interesting because of course Coals and well Worth,

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Speaker 14: you'd think would be facing similar incentives to do that

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Speaker 14: sort of thing. Why wouldn't that be happening here and

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Speaker 14: Coals isn't offering it particularly cheaply in Australia. If you

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Speaker 14: look at different places in Australia, you can get similar

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Speaker 14: prices to that. So I've just got the question. I've

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Speaker 14: put that question, of course to supermarkets why is it

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Speaker 14: so much cheaper seemingly at Australia and they've given me

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Speaker 14: an answer. I'm going to put it to Fonterierra and

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Speaker 14: ask about it. And I'm genuinely interested in their answers

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Speaker 14: because I'm on side of every KIV shopper who goes, hey,

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Speaker 14: there are Our price is fair and I think I

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Speaker 14: have a job to do to explore it.

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Speaker 2: Nicholicied families on two hundred and thirty thousand dollars beyond welfare.

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Speaker 14: No, they shouldn't be. But I know where you're going

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Speaker 14: with this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so why are they?

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Speaker 14: They are not family is earning that kind of income

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Speaker 14: in New Zealand. So that's across two earners. Mind you,

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Speaker 14: that's not just one who are paying a lot of

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Speaker 14: tax then have to if they have young children, pay

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Speaker 14: a lot for their childcare in order to work. It's

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Speaker 14: a cost that they have to take on in order

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Speaker 14: to often have mum and dad both working full time,

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Speaker 14: and what we've done with the Family Boost policy is

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Speaker 14: recognized as taxpayers working hard at a difficult time in life.

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Speaker 14: We want to make sure that you're well supported in that,

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Speaker 14: and we're going to give you some of your fees

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Speaker 14: back forty percent feeds back up to forty percent.

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Speaker 2: That's still wealth back.

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Speaker 16: One.

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Speaker 2: That's still wealthare because you are giving money to families

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Speaker 2: who are earning two hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you sure that you just spoke about

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Speaker 2: the fact that you're spending our money wisely? It doesn't

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Speaker 2: look like.

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Speaker 14: Well, well, it's a tax rebate either. It's not wealthfare,

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Speaker 14: it's not a handout. It's actually something you get only

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Speaker 14: if you are able to demonstrate that you've got those

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Speaker 14: receipts for your early childhood education costs, and you will

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Speaker 14: get lesse than you would if you were on a

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Speaker 14: lower income. We have means tested it, so once you're

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Speaker 14: as a household earning more than one hundred and forty

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Speaker 14: thousand dollars, the amount of rebate you get out of

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Speaker 14: that scheme starts to reduce. But look, I stand by

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Speaker 14: that family burst policy. It's all about saying difficult time

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Speaker 14: in life, high cost of living. Let's make sure families

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Speaker 14: with young kids are well supported.

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Speaker 2: All right, Nichola, thank you for your time. Enjoy your day.

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Speaker 2: That's Nichola Willi's Finance minister, Heather do for see Ellen

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Speaker 2: Matt Winerra. Actually let's start with us. Homeowners with houses

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Speaker 2: flooded or damage by whether need to stop expecting government

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Speaker 2: buyouts and do that within the next twenty years. This

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Speaker 2: is a recommendation from an expert panel set up to

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Speaker 2: nut out how to deal with climate risks. Matt Winery

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Speaker 2: is the chair of the Independent Reference Group and is

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Speaker 2: with us morning.

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Speaker 9: Matt, Hi Heather.

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Speaker 2: So, Matt, how would this work. You've got a batch

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Speaker 2: next to the beach, it gets flooded, the government will

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Speaker 2: buy you out for the next twenty years and after

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Speaker 2: that you're on your own.

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Speaker 17: So what we're looking to do is create a transition

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Speaker 17: to a future state where the government is not the

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Speaker 17: de facto ensure of all property damage. And that's the

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Speaker 17: situation we're in at the moment on a de factor,

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Speaker 17: on a default basis and a reactive basis post events.

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Speaker 17: But it's not done for everybody or every impact. So

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Speaker 17: what we're saying is what you need to do is

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Speaker 17: transition to a state where people can understand will what

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Speaker 17: they will get, and the government's obligation to relieve hardship

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Speaker 17: will not be linked to property value anymore, but needs

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Speaker 17: to be done over a period of time, so it

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Speaker 17: gives the market time to adjust and gives people fear

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Speaker 17: warning and an opportunity to respond.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you also talk about needing to draw some council

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Speaker 2: services from some places. What are you talking about.

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Speaker 17: What we mean there is that the councils will need

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Speaker 17: the ability to withdraw services in particular areas that are

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Speaker 17: particularly affected by flooding severe inundational coastal erosions. So like

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Speaker 17: you saw post earthquake, you had you had some situations

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Speaker 17: where you just had a few a few people still

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Speaker 17: living there. What you need to do is get to

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Speaker 17: a point where the councils can make decisions about.

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Speaker 18: How they will how they will adapt to the change

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Speaker 18: in climate, so the change in sea level, to change

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Speaker 18: in water level, and that needs to include the ability

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Speaker 18: to give indications over time that they would withdraw services

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Speaker 18: from particular areas where it's no longer suitable for people

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Speaker 18: to be living.

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Speaker 2: Is that in order to basically force people out.

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Speaker 17: No, that doesn't. That doesn't force people out. People can

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Speaker 17: continue to choose to stay there, but the Council can't

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Speaker 17: be or must be, in a position to be able

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Speaker 17: to decide whether to continue to give services if there

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Speaker 17: are essentially nobody to give services to.

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Speaker 6: Or very few.

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Speaker 2: Matt, thanks very much, Matt winn Ray, chair of the

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Speaker 2: Independent Reference Group. Right deal with the lizards?

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Speaker 1: Next quarter past the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, How It by News talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Here the why focus on the butter and comparing us

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Speaker 2: to Oz. Actually fairpoint. We're going to get to that.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to run you through those numbers. Seven eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Now there's been another setback, yet another one for the

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Speaker 2: largest mine in the country, largest gold mine, after battling

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Speaker 2: authorities over a native moth. This is McCrae's gold mine

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Speaker 2: in central Otago. It's now been told no on expansion

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Speaker 2: plans because of a lizard. Docs worried about ten thousand

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Speaker 2: lizards dying. Shane Jones is the Minister for Resources and with.

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Speaker 9: Us Morning Shane Hey in Morning Folks.

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Speaker 2: Scale of one to ten. How much is this annoying you?

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Speaker 9: Oh? I like mate, this is getting into double figures

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Speaker 9: on nine hundred, could be up to a thousand jobs.

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Speaker 9: Flies in the face of what the Prime Minister has

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Speaker 9: asked as cabinet to deliver. We just had a major

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Speaker 9: investment seminar this year. People associated with the mining sector.

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Speaker 9: We're there. They loved what we had to say. We've

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Speaker 9: got quizzlings in the system who, in my view, are

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Speaker 9: catastrophizing and I don't even think they're telling the truth

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Speaker 9: about this application in terms of ten thousand lizards. And

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Speaker 9: what's the point of pushing a growth agenda if you've

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Speaker 9: got quizzlings that are actually making decisions which Cabinet doesn't

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Speaker 9: even know about until someone breaks wind in the public sector.

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Speaker 9: And that's why I'm taking the matter to cabinet because

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Speaker 9: I feel that i'mbecoming indistinguishable from Justinda Returns or listen

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Speaker 9: to carry on taking places.

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Speaker 2: What's the deal with the lizards. Let's say that they're

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Speaker 2: right and we lose ten thousand lizards. Are the lizards extinct?

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Speaker 9: These lizards are as common as acne on a teenager.

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Speaker 9: It's first thing. Secondly, they are scattered throughout the entirety

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Speaker 9: of Otago. Every time a farmer does something on his

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Speaker 9: or her land, they don't need a special wildlife permit.

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Speaker 9: This piece of legislation is actually older than my good self.

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Speaker 9: But the most important thing is does the public want

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Speaker 9: jobs in Otago? Does the public want seven hundred million

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Speaker 9: dollars worth of export revenue? I do, and of the

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Speaker 9: view that the decision makers in this case have just

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Speaker 9: taken the public for a ride. But more importantly, these

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Speaker 9: are companies that have been mining for thirty forty years.

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Speaker 9: This is not some fjordland Christine environment. This is already

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Speaker 9: compromised area. And all they wanted to do was move

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Speaker 9: some soil, move some rocks, change the top soil, get

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Speaker 9: a whole bunch of hairy legs. Melloy colic ecological people

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Speaker 9: picking up the lizards in front of a bulldoze. That

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Speaker 9: happens all the time. But no, no, these decision makers,

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Speaker 9: and understand that they're in dock, have decided they've got

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Speaker 9: more power than cabinet and they've got more power than

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Speaker 9: the Prime minis.

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Speaker 2: Well they don't. So what are you going to do

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Well, you'll just have to wait and see. Oh no,

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Speaker 9: if I have my way, those jobs will be protected,

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Speaker 9: that revenue will grow, and we'll just have to deal

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Speaker 9: with the fact that we'll take care of what lizards

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Speaker 9: we can and those that get in the way. Sorry,

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Speaker 9: it's a trade off.

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Speaker 2: So you'll go into are you going to override dock here?

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Speaker 2: And let mccraze just bulldoze over those lizards be common

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Speaker 2: as money.

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Speaker 9: Sadly, I'm not the decision maker under the wildlife fact.

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Speaker 9: It's someone missled into the dock. So the CEO of

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Speaker 9: DOC and the CLEAR and the bureaucratic leaders of DOC

873
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Speaker 9: have to ask themselves, are you the reserve Bank? Do

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Speaker 9: you operate independent from the cabinet based government of New Zealand?

875
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Speaker 9: And if you do well, I might because he promised

876
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Speaker 9: that he would take care of this heresy within the bureaus.

877
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Speaker 2: All I want to know is he actually going to

878
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Speaker 2: do something about it or just complain about it.

879
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Speaker 9: I think Kewis know that muchI of Shane Jones stands

880
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 9: for mining, stands for economic development. In every other case,

881
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Speaker 9: I've actually done something about it. But I've got to

882
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Speaker 9: work with them. The collective responsibility because we're coalition and governed.

883
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Speaker 9: But I know I've got the majority of keys on

884
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Speaker 9: my side as I had them on my side here

885
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Speaker 9: in Sydney with my team from Queensland won the game.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Shane Jones, Minister for Resources. He is hoping he

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Speaker 2: does do something. Seven two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcust on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Deb heither we need more of Shane Jones. Hither I'd

891
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Speaker 2: vote for Shane Jones here to let me buy this

892
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Speaker 2: man dinner. Come to Queenstow, MARTSUA seven twenty five. Now,

893
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: hasn't the AI and Wimbledon drama taught us exactly the

894
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Speaker 2: same lesson we keep learning with technology and sport, which

895
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Speaker 2: is that technology is great if it doesn't disrupt the game.

896
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Speaker 2: And if that is the lesson that we keep learning,

897
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: why don't we just learn it already? Wimbledon, What's Happened?

898
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: Has not used AI properly. The first problem that it

899
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Speaker 2: had was that mister ball out by a foot. The

900
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Speaker 2: match got stopped. Everyone waited for four minutes. Yes, the

901
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Speaker 2: AI got it wrong, match resumed turned out someone turned

902
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Speaker 2: the AI off. Then we're at the quarter finals. AI

903
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Speaker 2: calls a ball out it's not out, it's a meter

904
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Speaker 2: inside the baseline. Match is stopped. Umpire calls the tech

905
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Speaker 2: people or whoever. Everyone waits, Yes, the ball was in.

906
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Speaker 2: After all match resumes. Turns out what happened was a

907
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Speaker 2: ball boy is crossing the net at exactly the moment

908
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Speaker 2: that the ball was moving, and the AI can't handle

909
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Speaker 2: two movements at the same time players across the waiting

910
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: has broken the game's momentum. The crowd is crossed. They

911
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: have paid to watch a game, not to sit around

912
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: waiting for tech to be checked. On the other side

913
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Speaker 2: of the world, which is here, we're having a similar

914
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Speaker 2: discussion again. We're complaining again about the TMO in last

915
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: weekend's test involving itself too much. Even Wayne Barnes, yes

916
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Speaker 2: Wayne Barnes, is complaining that TMO is ruining the continuity

917
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: of the game. Other sports have already learned this lesson right.

918
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Speaker 2: League has limited what the bunker can look at. Football

919
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: is thinking about limiting the var ice. Hockey has limited

920
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Speaker 2: the video review, same with volleyball. They all know what

921
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Speaker 2: Wimbledon hasn't quite managed to do and what Rugby seems

922
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: unable to accept, which is technology is great, but do

923
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Speaker 2: not let it disrupt the game. Don't let it keep

924
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Speaker 2: the fans waiting together.

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Speaker 1: Do for sel Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: GST, Heather, Nicholas should know it's a GST problem. Heather,

927
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Speaker 2: it is a GST problem. Nicholas should know. There's no food,

928
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Speaker 2: no GST on food in Australia. Here the butter doesn't

929
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Speaker 2: have gios GST in Australia. There's a fifteen percent difference

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 2: The butter is cheaper in Australia because they've not got it.

933
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Speaker 2: And so we all know this, right So I've done

934
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Speaker 2: the numbers for you. Haven't got time to run you

935
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Speaker 2: through the numbers right now, but i'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: After the news, We're going to talk to Louise Upston

937
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Speaker 2: about what she's doing with the beneficiaries and getting them work,

938
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Speaker 2: and then I'm going to run you through the numbers

939
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Speaker 2: and you can decide whether Nikola has got a point

940
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Speaker 2: when it comes to what we are selling butter for

941
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Speaker 2: here and what coals are selling butter for in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Standby News togs Head b.

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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupice ellen On the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita,

945
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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life your Way, News, Togs dead b.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe it? It is twenty years since outrageous

947
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Speaker 2: fortune hit our screens. So to mark that, we're going

948
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Speaker 2: to speak to Luretta west Akaa and Tony Apprebble after

949
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Speaker 2: eight o'clock. Here is your butter prices. So Woolworth's in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand is selling butter for it looks like eight

951
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Speaker 2: dollars fifty. And as the Finance Minister said before, Coals

952
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Speaker 2: in Australia is selling butter for seven dollars fifty. Why

953
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Speaker 2: on earth are they getting it cheaper than we are? Well,

954
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Speaker 2: couple of things. First of all, they don't pay any tax,

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Speaker 2: any VAT on their butter in Australia, so we do.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we pay fifteen PERCENTJST. So we'll take that

957
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: off for a straight comparison. Right, So Coal's are seven

958
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: dollars fifty, we take our GST off. Now we're paying

959
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Speaker 2: it will worth seven dollars forty. So who's getting it

960
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Speaker 2: cheaper now?

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Speaker 6: Huh?

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Speaker 2: Tax is the problem there. But then also don't forget

963
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Speaker 2: you have to adjust for currency. So now you adjust

964
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Speaker 2: for the Australian price. Coal's butter in New Zealand dollars

965
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Speaker 2: is now costing eight dollars twenty and the Woolworth's butter

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand is costing seven dollars forty straight comparison

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Speaker 2: with the tax off and with the currency in the

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Speaker 2: who's getting the better deal? Now we are seven dollars

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Speaker 2: forty versus their eight dollars twenty. Now you don't have

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Speaker 2: to call a meeting with Fonterra to ask how to

971
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: take off GST and how to do a currency adjustment?

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00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: Do you twenty two away from eight? You are kids

973
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Speaker 2: in something of a return to the old days. The

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Speaker 2: government is calling on beneficiaries to grab a shovel and

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Speaker 2: help clean up the Tasman and Mulborough flood damage. They're

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Speaker 2: going to be paid money on top of the doll

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Speaker 2: the whease upstin is the Social Development Minister.

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Speaker 19: Highluiz, Good morning Heather, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you? How much you're paying?

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Speaker 19: Well, this is a living wage and it's a really

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Speaker 19: great opportunity for job seekers to get in there and

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Speaker 19: roll their sleeves up and help in the local flood

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Speaker 19: recovery efforts.

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Speaker 2: So is that topping the doll up to the minimum

985
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Speaker 2: wage or is that the minimum wage on top of

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Speaker 2: the doll.

987
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Speaker 19: It's the minimum wage in total. And it's a really

988
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Speaker 19: great opportunity for those who are on job seeker benefit

989
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 19: who aren't working currently. They're readily available and can get

990
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Speaker 19: on and help the community with the really valuable clean

991
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Speaker 19: up project that's necessary.

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00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: Are you offering this to people who are in the

993
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Speaker 2: region or people outside of the region as well?

994
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Speaker 19: It's mainly in the region. We've got about six hundred

995
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Speaker 19: job seekers in the Tasman region, so we know there

996
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Speaker 19: are people available, but look, they're well that there may

997
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Speaker 19: also be people who are out of work, who are

998
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Speaker 19: not on benefit, who are available and interested in getting involved.

999
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Speaker 19: So that's why we put the word out. We gather

1000
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Speaker 19: the truth and then get everybody underway to do that

1001
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 19: really important cleanup on farms and rural areas and also

1002
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Speaker 19: community facilities that have been damaged in the Tasman Marlborough area.

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Speaker 2: And how many have taken you up on the offer, Well, there.

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Speaker 19: Was good interest. As of yesterday, we're probably looking at

1005
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 19: about three crews, so about thirty people is the initial estimate.

1006
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Speaker 19: And I'm really confident we'll have no problem meeting that number.

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Speaker 2: So you've had interest from thirty people or you need

1008
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: thirty people.

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Speaker 19: No. End of yesterday, we need about thirty people, so

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Speaker 19: we expect there'll be three crews. And there were about

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00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 19: ten people interested at the end of yesterday. I understand

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Speaker 19: ten people are and that was only within a number

1013
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 19: of hours, a number of hours of putting the message out.

1014
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Speaker 19: So the work brokers will now sort of get on

1015
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Speaker 19: the phones, look at their suitable job seeker candidates and

1016
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Speaker 19: connect them to those opportunities. What's really great is what

1017
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Speaker 19: we've seen from the past events where this task Force

1018
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Speaker 19: Green has been activated, that some of these jobs seekers

1019
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Speaker 19: have gone into employment following these projects, which is great news.

1020
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Speaker 19: That's the ultimate outcome.

1021
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean so when I looked at this, this

1022
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Speaker 2: is a fantastic idea and I completely love it. But

1023
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Speaker 2: the problem that I can see is that it's going

1024
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Speaker 2: to motivate the people who are already motivated, right and

1025
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Speaker 2: they are going to get jobs anyway in the private

1026
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Speaker 2: sector because they are motivated. What we really want to

1027
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Speaker 2: do is get those really long term beneficiaries off the couch.

1028
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Are we seeing any sign that they are getting motivated

1029
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Speaker 2: by it.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think there's a range of people.

1031
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Speaker 6: There'll be people.

1032
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Speaker 19: Who, because of the economic circumstances we have right now,

1033
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Speaker 19: are newly unemployed and really keen to get back into it.

1034
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 19: There will be others that this type of clean up.

1035
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Speaker 19: They're motivated actually to support their community, and that's something

1036
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Speaker 19: that might mean that they're more interested in getting out

1037
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 19: and doing work outside on farms that they might not otherwise.

1038
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Speaker 19: So listen, I'm agnostic. We've got a large number of

1039
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Speaker 19: people on benefit because we've got challenging economics circumstances. The

1040
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Speaker 19: opportunity for them to get work experience, to do work

1041
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Speaker 19: that's really valuable to the community is a win win

1042
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Speaker 19: from my perspective.

1043
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Speaker 2: Okay, if this works, and if we do start to

1044
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: see that there are people who we've had real trouble

1045
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: getting off the doll suddenly getting off the doll because

1046
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Speaker 2: this work is there and it's easy for them to

1047
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Speaker 2: kind of transition to it. Whatever, whatever the reason, would

1048
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Speaker 2: you roll this out wider than this and outside of

1049
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: civil defense emergencies.

1050
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Speaker 19: It's not something I'm actively considering, but listen, I'm open

1051
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Speaker 19: to suggestions about how we reduce the number of people

1052
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 19: on the job seeker Benefit. Obviously, this takes a significant

1053
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 19: amount of funding because it's fully paying a full time wage,

1054
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Speaker 19: and as you would well know, the government's offers aren't

1055
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 19: a bottomless pit. So we want to do what works,

1056
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Speaker 19: and where there are things that work, we'll definitely look

1057
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Speaker 19: at doing more of it.

1058
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Speaker 2: Would you ever look at compelling.

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Speaker 7: Well.

1060
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Speaker 19: I think we've put a lot of lever in place

1061
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 19: already around tightening up the work obligations and consequences when

1062
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Speaker 19: people don't meet that. And because we know that ninety

1063
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Speaker 19: eight percent are at green, the system's working really well.

1064
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 6: But look, if we get problems.

1065
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Speaker 19: Further down the line, I'll always look at other options

1066
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Speaker 19: for how to support more people off welfare and into work.

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Speaker 2: Louise, thanks very much, Louis Eupston, Minister for Social Development

1068
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Speaker 2: and Employment. I'll talk about f one shortly. Good news

1069
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: looks like we're going to save ourselves a little bit

1070
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: of coin. I'm into that because one of the Justinda

1071
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Speaker 2: movies has just been scrapped. This is the one called Manaiah,

1072
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Speaker 2: not to be confused with the one called Prime Minister,

1073
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Speaker 2: which is already out in cinemas and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Manaiah was going to part Mania. I did wonder why

1075
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Speaker 2: it was called Maniah. Thanks, Sam's correcting my It's oh,

1076
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Speaker 2: Justinda media. Sam's correcting me in my ear. To be

1077
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Speaker 2: fair to myself, both Jinda and I go on holiday

1078
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Speaker 2: at the same place that there is a cafe called Manaia,

1079
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Speaker 2: and I thought, geez, we're drawing a long boat of

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00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: Manaiah the cafe. I mean, it's good, but okay, anyway,

1081
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Speaker 2: would pay to re things properly, Mania, which makes a

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Speaker 2: lot more sense, was potentially going to draw two million

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Speaker 2: dollars from taxpayers, So it was eight hundred bucks of

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Speaker 2: taxpayer money that had already, by the looks of things,

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Speaker 2: been agreed to, and then a further one point two

1086
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Speaker 2: million dollars through the government's screen production rebate scheme. They've

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Speaker 2: decided to scrap it because the other film is already out,

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00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: which they knew was going to happen anyway. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not going to complain about it. At

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Speaker 2: least it's gone. I'm tossing up whether to give you

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00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: the other bit of just cinder news. I think we're

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00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: a bit just sinda heavy this week, but I think

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00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: we may have to at some stage. Trigger warning. Sixteen

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Speaker 2: away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: Here the louise Eupston is dreaming people aren't going to

1098
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: go out and work in the cold physically when they

1099
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Speaker 2: can just sit at home. Well, this is the problem,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Thirteen away from seven. Now have you heard

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00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: of the movie The Salt Path or even the book

1102
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: of the Salt Path. The movie is out at the moment.

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00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: It's features Gillian Anderson and Jason Isaacs. Jason Isaacs as

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00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: the chap who got us out in White Lotus probably

1105
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: most it's also Draco's dad in Harry Potter. Anyway, this

1106
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: huge controversy about this at the moment because the film,

1107
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: which is out at the moment and you can watch

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: it in New Zealand, is based on a book which

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00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: was supposed to be based on real life. But it

1110
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: actually turns out after some journalists digging around, that this

1111
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 2: is a croc and it has hit the UK hard

1112
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: because they loved it in particular. So the original story

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00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: of the Salt Path. I'm going to tell you this

1114
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: so that when you go watch the movie. It just

1115
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: totally ruins the thing for you. It's written by a

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00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: woman called Rainal Winn and it's about how she and

1117
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: her husband, who she calls Moth, have a die. He

1118
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: has a diagnosis of a terminal illness. And then at

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00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: the same time they make a bad investment and that

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Speaker 2: gets called in and they lose their house in Wales

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Speaker 2: because of it, and so to heal themselves they set

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00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: off on this six hundred and thirty mile journey, journey

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00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: along the sea swept west coast path to heal themselves.

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Speaker 2: It's the Salt Path, and so she writes this book.

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Speaker 2: The book is published in twenty eighteen. It goes straight

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Speaker 2: to the top of the bestseller chart, sells more than

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Speaker 2: two million copies worldwide. Problem is, it appears none of

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Speaker 2: it is true. Their name, the journalist discovers, is it

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Speaker 2: not even their name is accurate, It's not when it's

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Speaker 2: actually Walker. She's Sally Walker, He's Tim Walker. He isn't

1131
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Speaker 2: terminal le il, at least probably not terminal LEEL. He

1132
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: has something called cortico basal degeneration CBD. You'll see if

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00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: you have that, the prognosis as you die within six

1134
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Speaker 2: to eight years, and it's pretty debilitating as you kind

1135
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: of move closer to death. He's had it for eighteen years.

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00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: Looks fine, no visible symptoms whatsoever. There was no bad investment. Actually.

1137
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: What happened as she stole from her employer as much

1138
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Speaker 2: as sixty sixty four thousand pounds or something. The employer

1139
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: found out was going to press charges, but then she ran,

1140
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: ran away, caught up with a random relative who paid

1141
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: off the debts. Relatives secured it against their house. The loan.

1142
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: She didn't pay it back in time, or they didn't

1143
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: the debt got called in. That's why they lost their house.

1144
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: They said they had nowhere else to go, which is

1145
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Speaker 2: why they walked the sole path. That's bs as well.

1146
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Speaker 2: Apparently they owned a second property in France, and it

1147
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: looks along the way they've left all these little debts,

1148
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 2: just people being paid, you being owed a few hundred

1149
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: pounds here and there. Anyway. The publishing house, what's happened

1150
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: overnight is the publishing house Penguin has finally responded to

1151
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: the allegations which have been in an Observer article. They

1152
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: say they've undertaken all necessary due diligence. They say they

1153
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: have a contract with the author, which states that it's

1154
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: factual accuracy. The author says the article is highly misleading,

1155
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: But I mean, who are you going to believe a

1156
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: published a published a published journalist or a published author

1157
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: who has been busted potentially lying either way. Big trouble

1158
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: potentially for the publishers, because in the past publishers who've

1159
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: said that books are accurate and then it's been found

1160
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: not to be the case have had to apologize, maybe

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Speaker 2: even issue a refund. So if you're not liking the book,

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Speaker 2: hold on to it. You might be able to get

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Speaker 2: your money back. T get away from it.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen on the Mike Husking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Vida Retirement Communities News togs Head.

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Speaker 2: B Heather, I saw the Salt Path movie and haven't

1167
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: read the book, and it was so boring that probably

1168
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: won't get a refound on the movie, but might have

1169
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Speaker 2: on the book. Seeven Away from eight Now. Big news

1170
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Speaker 2: from the IF one World Overnight read bull boss Christian

1171
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: Horner has been sacked. He was, of course the one

1172
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Speaker 2: who gave Liam Lawson the run around earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: Chris Midland is a Formula one journalist and is worth us.

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Speaker 1: Morning, Chris morning, Hell, how are you doing?

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: And well thank you? Any idea what's gone on here?

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Speaker 20: Well, there's multiple reasons I think that could come into it.

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00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 20: None have been firmly given by Red Bull, and they've

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Speaker 20: been very quiet, both the parent company and the racing

1179
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 20: team itself about any potential reasons. But if you look

1180
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 20: over the last eighteen months, the team has certainly been

1181
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 20: in decline in terms of its form on the track,

1182
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 20: and Christian Horner's faced off track controversy in that time

1183
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 20: as well. So in some ways you could see this

1184
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 20: coming over that period, but in others it looked like

1185
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 20: he'd written out the storm.

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Speaker 2: Then it comes to the shop, it sounds like, at

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00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: least it's been reported that he had yet another argument

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: with Joss for steppin last weekend. Could that have been

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Speaker 2: the thing that has sort of been the moment that breaks.

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Speaker 20: I don't think an argument with Jos would have been

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00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 20: the key to it in that sense, but I do

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00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 20: think concern over Max to Staffen's future could be central

1193
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Speaker 20: to it, because, as I said, the form has not

1194
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 20: been good for Red Bull, but the trend at least,

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 20: you know, Max did win the championship last year, but

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00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 20: he kind of linked to it with the car he

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Speaker 20: had in the second half of the season. Doesn't have

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Speaker 20: a card this year that he can fight for the

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Speaker 20: title with, and he's slipping back in contention as well

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Speaker 20: right now. Now he's looking at other options. He's got

1201
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 20: brake clauses in his contract based on performance, and Red

1202
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 20: Bull know that their biggest asset right now is Maxi

1203
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 20: Staffan because they've lost a number of key team members

1204
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 20: and they're not delivering the car for him, So to

1205
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 20: lose him, it's kind of like what's their usp where's

1206
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 20: their strength? And I think that panic is what may

1207
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 20: have led to it. So the Rastapans also want to

1208
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 20: see change, they want to see improvement and they weren't

1209
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Speaker 20: getting it under Horn's leadership. So there's a chance that

1210
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 20: there's an ultimatum there that's been rumored. But even if

1211
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Speaker 20: there wasn't, I think just the ownership of the Red

1212
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 20: Bull rating team looking at it and think something's got

1213
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Speaker 20: to give.

1214
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Speaker 2: Does this change the outlook for Liam Lawson?

1215
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Speaker 20: I'd say no, based on I think Liam has eve

1216
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 20: been having some good performances. More recently he had a

1217
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 20: really good result in Austria just two weekends ago, but

1218
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 20: he's back in the junior team for this year, which

1219
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 20: is realistically where he probably should have been anyway for

1220
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 20: his development. It would have been better if he'd had

1221
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 20: a bit more stability to build experience, and if he

1222
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 20: performs well within the team this year, then yes, he'll

1223
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 20: have a better outlook moving forward, but that's all within him.

1224
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 20: In the sense, Horner being at Red Bull or not

1225
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 20: being at Red Bull didn't make a huge difference. Horner

1226
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 20: had backed him and wanted him to be in that

1227
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 20: seat at the start of the year, and then had

1228
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Speaker 20: been there when they overturned that decision after just two races.

1229
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Speaker 20: But Lauren Mechws, who has now gone in as THEEO

1230
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 20: and team principal at Red Bull to replace Horner, was

1231
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 20: the team principal at Racing Balls with Liam as well

1232
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 20: and was a big fan of Liam. So I don't

1233
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Speaker 20: think he's kind of lost any allies in that sense,

1234
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 20: and it just comes down to what he can do

1235
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 20: on track.

1236
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Chris good to talk Chris Midland, Formula one

1237
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: journalist and right. I do not have time right now

1238
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: to talk about Goldra's government, but Golera's Gurriman does need

1239
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: to be talked about. So why don't we shood you

1240
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: all the time? Why don't we say before half past eight,

1241
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Golera's government. And also at

1242
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: some stag it feels like ladies of the left are

1243
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: giving me trouble today. Also at some stage we are

1244
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: going to deal with the last remaining piece of information

1245
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: about j Just Sinda Adurn. You got the telly if

1246
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: you if anywhere, No, never mind the telly. You don't

1247
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: need the telling in your life. Telly's boring if you

1248
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: if you do have a minute, just Google up for

1249
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: me Donald Trump so you can see what's up with

1250
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: Donald today. Donald is very orange. Donald has Donald has

1251
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: gone to the spray tank clinic and he's gone up

1252
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: a couple of shades, probably accidentally. It's it's more, it's

1253
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: more noticeable than normal. You can see the goggle lines.

1254
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: So just enjoy that outrageous fortune.

1255
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Speaker 1: Next, the News and the newsmakers Heather Duper see Ellen

1256
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: on the Mike asking breakfast with the land Rover Discovery

1257
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: never stop discovering news, Tom Stead, if you have watched

1258
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: any New.

1259
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: Zealand tally in just the last couple of decades, seven

1260
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: past that, by the way, then our next guest has

1261
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: been a mainstay of viewing and Tonia Prebble, she just

1262
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: had her twenties when she was cast in Outrageous Fortune,

1263
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: became a household name. They are now celebrating the twentieth

1264
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: anniversary of this show, plus the tenth anniversary of the

1265
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: prequel series West Side. Antonia has since gone on to

1266
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: do other things, and she's doing international productions, also running

1267
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: a successful podcast, What Matters Most, and Antonia Prebble joins me.

1268
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: Now morning Antonia, Good morning, pabatt. I can't believe it's

1269
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: twenty years, can you?

1270
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 15: No? I really can't. And to know, the thing that

1271
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 15: makes me feel the most weird inside my belly about

1272
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 15: this is I just turned forty one, So I did it.

1273
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 15: I started Outrageous when I was twenty and a half,

1274
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 15: literally half my life ago. So when I think to

1275
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 15: myself that I had the same amount of life pre

1276
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 15: Outrageous Fortune as I have had post starting Outrageous Fortune,

1277
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 15: I can't believe that. So it's the midpoint of my life.

1278
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: Is it overwhelming to think of that?

1279
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 15: It's not overwhelming. It just makes me feel very sort

1280
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 15: of strange and a bit kind of queasy because the

1281
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 15: first twenty years of my life, as I'm sure it

1282
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 15: feels same for you, they were interminable, you know, the

1283
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 15: growing up years, the going to high school for what

1284
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 15: felt like in millionaires, and then the last two years

1285
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 15: have just flown by. So yeah, I can't believe it.

1286
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is kind of worrying because then you think, well,

1287
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: what about the next forty years? And then you know

1288
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: life is over?

1289
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: Do you know?

1290
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 6: Everyone?

1291
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever go back and watch it?

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Speaker 15: Do you know what? I don't intentionally go back and

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Speaker 15: watch it, and not for any specific reason. I actually

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Speaker 15: I do sometimes find watching the things I'm in difficult,

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Speaker 15: but now, because it was twenty years ago, there is

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Speaker 15: enough distance for me to be able to see it

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Speaker 15: with some objectivity. But I kind of just don't often

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Speaker 15: think too. You know, life's busy and there's lots of

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Speaker 15: current shows to watch. But there's been quite a few

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Speaker 15: posts on social media that I've been tagged in to

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Speaker 15: sell Clebrate this twenty years with various clips from the show,

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Speaker 15: and so I watched them whenever I'm tagged in them,

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Speaker 15: and I just get transported straight back to that time.

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Speaker 15: You know, the scene where Cheryl tells us we're going straight.

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Speaker 15: I remember, I remember shooting that scene. I remember the

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Speaker 15: direction that we were all being given by our director.

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Speaker 15: That there was such a visceral palpable time in my life.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, I just get transported back there. But I

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Speaker 15: have to say I really like it still, Like I think,

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Speaker 15: in its own way, it has stood the test of time.

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Speaker 15: Like it looks a bit dated because just you know,

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Speaker 15: cameras and lighting and everything was different. But I still

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Speaker 15: really enjoy the story. And the poem says, which is

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Speaker 15: really nice.

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Speaker 2: Do you are you aware of how big that show was?

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Speaker 2: And I'm asking this because sometimes when you're doing something

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Speaker 2: and you're in the middle of it, you can't quite

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Speaker 2: appreciate what is actually happening to you. But with time,

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Speaker 2: have you come to realize how massive that show was

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Speaker 2: in this country?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's such a good question, and it's so true

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Speaker 15: because when we started the show show i'd say season one,

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Speaker 15: season two, we had no idea really like we felt

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Speaker 15: on set collectively that there was kind of a bit

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Speaker 15: of a magic happening. There was a kind of this

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Speaker 15: electricity that was created that felt really special. But even

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Speaker 15: that's not a good litmus test because I've had that

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Speaker 15: feeling on other shows and then no one watches it

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Speaker 15: and it's not good or you don't think the show

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Speaker 15: is good, and then for some reason it really finds

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Speaker 15: an audience and is great. So we were having a

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Speaker 15: good time, but had no idea really if that would translate,

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Speaker 15: and I think we sort of squeaked in to get

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Speaker 15: funding for season two. I don't know how. I mean,

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Speaker 15: I think season one was well received but not crazy successful.

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Speaker 15: So it wasn't until about season three when we've got

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Speaker 15: renewed for like eighteen episodes, which was, you know, pretty

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Speaker 15: unheard of, and we started really getting stopped in the

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Speaker 15: street a lot more that we realized we were kind

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Speaker 15: of onto something. But I think in a way, I'm

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Speaker 15: sort of surprised every day, like it's now we're talking

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Speaker 15: about the show that we did twenty years ago, and

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Speaker 15: here we are talking about it, you know. So the

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Speaker 15: fact that the legacy has endured this long, I think

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Speaker 15: is still quite startling and so lovely, and I feel

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Speaker 15: so special to be part of a show that people

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Speaker 15: still want to talk about twenty years later.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the state of local TV

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Is it sad to you that we

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Speaker 2: do not provide as much of it as we used to.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's really sad. Yeah, I don't know many actors

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Speaker 15: or crew who are like having a good time at

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Speaker 15: the moment. Almost all of the people who I know

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Speaker 15: who work in the screen sector are struggling. And yeah,

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Speaker 15: it is just you know, put the post COVID issues,

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Speaker 15: America is having its own issues, which you know has

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Speaker 15: a flow on effect from here. So yeah, I do

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Speaker 15: think it's sad. It's a lot harder to get things funded,

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Speaker 15: particularly at a more premium level, without having international funding attached,

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Speaker 15: which is really hard to get. So yeah, it is sad.

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Speaker 15: I mean I try not to get to sort of

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Speaker 15: generally downhearted about things, because what's the point, you know,

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Speaker 15: then you're just sort of spend your life being miserable.

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Speaker 15: So I tried it, you know, be optimistic. But I

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Speaker 15: do have to say that I in my conversations with

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Speaker 15: my peers, there's no one sort of having the best

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Speaker 15: time at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she want to talk to you about this a

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Speaker 2: little bit more, antoniou, So we'll just take a break

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Speaker 2: and come back to It's twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The mic asking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: It's eight fifteen back with Antonia Prebble of Outrageous Fortune. Antonio,

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Speaker 2: we still need to see ourselves on tally right as

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Speaker 2: a country. Right now, we're talking about the possibility that

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: even Shortland Street doesn't come back next year. How do

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Speaker 2: you see yourselves on tally in a small country like

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: New Zealand where everybody is subscribing to Disney and Amazon

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Speaker 2: and Netflix, how do you actually make sure that we

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Speaker 2: are on Tally?

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Speaker 15: Well? I think we have to have government charters to

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Speaker 15: make sure that we do have enough funding to tell

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Speaker 15: our own stories. And other countries with similar populations, like Ireland,

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Speaker 15: do it really well. You know, they have an amazing

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Speaker 15: output of TV and they just really value the arts because,

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Speaker 15: as you say, they recognize the value of having their

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Speaker 15: store their own stories on screen. And I think that

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Speaker 15: was that kind of amazing thing about Outrageous is to

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Speaker 15: take it back to that is because it was sort

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Speaker 15: of one of the first times where we felt quite

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Speaker 15: like proud about seeing ourselves on screen. You know, we

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Speaker 15: have this huge cringe factor about tool Pobby syndrome in

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Speaker 15: New Zealand and when that show came on, which was celebrating,

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 15: and really it was celebrating. It was never poking fun

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01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 15: at a very specific part of our culture. I think

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Speaker 15: for the first time New Zealanders were like, we love

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Speaker 15: seeing we love us. No, we love hearing our voices.

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Speaker 15: So what a shame if we don't get that opportunity

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Speaker 15: anymore and across a diverse range of voices and a

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Speaker 15: diverse range of stories. Because yeah, I think it's a

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Speaker 15: it's such an important reflection of who we are to

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01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 15: sort of find out who we are, or to keep

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 15: learning and discovering who we are and moving forward as

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Speaker 15: a culture in a society. And that is gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: what are we left with just learning how to be Americans?

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Speaker 2: Well exactly? Can I talk to you about after the party?

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Speaker 2: Because your husband was involved with that, right, yes he was. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that ending sucked?

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Speaker 16: Did this.

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Speaker 2: I loved that? Well, I say this, but I'm conflicted

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Speaker 2: when I say this came I loved it. I think

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Speaker 2: it is the best television that we have done out

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Speaker 2: of the country in a long time. But it was

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: to neat at the end. I hope this is not

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01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: a spoiler, but it's too neat at the end that

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Speaker 2: the bad guy dies.

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Speaker 15: Yeah right, I yeah, fair enough. I didn't mind it.

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Speaker 15: I sort of felt like it was true to the

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Speaker 15: story and true to what the characters would have done.

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Speaker 15: And I also really liked the kind of synergy and

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Speaker 15: the parallels of what happened after the party and what

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Speaker 15: happened after the party party beginning end. So look, I

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Speaker 15: didn't mind it, but I hear I think that's that's

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Speaker 15: that's the Valot point of view. Look, I'll pass it

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Speaker 15: on to Dan. So look here, that's not heavy with

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Speaker 15: the ending. Okay, Well, when.

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Speaker 2: You pass it on, though, make sure that you primarily

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Speaker 2: say she gives it like a strong nine out of ten.

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Speaker 2: And the only missing star is because he should have

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Speaker 2: suffered with everybody knowing what he did.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, like suffered consciously rather than just dying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was an easy escape for him.

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Speaker 2: I've totally blown the ending for anybody who hasn't seen it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I have heard, right because because because yeah,

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Speaker 2: your husband's involved in talias are you. I've heard that

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Speaker 2: you were involved some sort of an unnamed international production.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 15: Oh, yes, I'm something film, well, possibly the thing I'm

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Speaker 15: filming at the moment is that does that sound? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to know about this or is it

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Speaker 2: a secret?

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Speaker 15: Look? I think so, Like I'll just say tell me

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 15: get in trouble later. Yeah, it's a show called ms

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Speaker 15: X and it's it's plus six four which is a

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Speaker 15: New Zealand production company and copro with FPP. And then

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Speaker 15: they've got some American investment as well. And do you

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Speaker 15: know Melissa George Do you remember Melissa George Shell? She

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 15: stole my heart as an eight year old when she

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Speaker 15: played Angel and Home and Away, but she's gone on

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Speaker 15: to have a very illustrious career after that. So she's

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Speaker 15: the lead alongside Dino Gorman who and Simon Kessel And yeah,

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Speaker 15: I'm in it as well, and I just I play

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Speaker 15: I honestly either. I've had the most fun playing this character.

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Speaker 15: It's very different, in fact, could have been more opposite

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Speaker 15: to like Laretta West. Let's say. So, when it comes out,

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Speaker 15: I think people be like, oh, we've never quite seen

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Speaker 15: Antonio do a role like this, and it's been so fun.

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Speaker 15: I've almost I'm always finished. I've got a couple of

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Speaker 15: more days to go.

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Speaker 2: But yes, so this is a New Zealand aszy production

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Speaker 2: is it.

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Speaker 15: It's just a New Zealand production. But with American funding. Oh,

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Speaker 15: I see Oupacific Facts, Plastics four and then some American funds.

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Speaker 2: Why are the Americans funding our shows? Why are they interested?

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Speaker 15: Well, we have to have Americans or some other international

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Speaker 15: body funding our shows. Now, if you really want any

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Speaker 15: show that's at a premium level, anything over about three

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Speaker 15: million dollars, New Zealand Air just won't fund it anymore.

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Speaker 15: So you just have to go looking. And I think

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Speaker 15: international production companies or distribution companies they're looking for a

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Speaker 15: show that they think they can sell, they'll they'll make

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Speaker 15: money on, and they really like these scripts and really

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Speaker 15: like this idea, so so got.

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Speaker 12: On board with it.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff. Now, Also, before I let you go, I

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Speaker 2: want to understand something because because you're a wedding celebrant,

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Speaker 2: and I'm noticing I've got a lot of friends in

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Speaker 2: the media who are wedding celebrants. You know, for example,

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Speaker 2: Matt maclain, who Maddie who? Does you know the heads

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Speaker 2: or whatever? What's up with all you guys becoming wedding celebrants.

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Speaker 15: Oh that's funny. Well, I suppose it feels like a

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 15: bit more of a natural quite a natural fit for

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Speaker 15: the skills you already have, which is, you know, being

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Speaker 15: a communicator, being a presenter. The reason I got my

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Speaker 15: license was because some friends of my brothers actually wanted

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Speaker 15: to get married, and I thought, oh great, I'll do that.

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Speaker 15: And I think for like, for me, it's a really

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Speaker 15: lovely thing to do, but it also fits really well

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Speaker 15: around other work. So you know, you can just I

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Speaker 15: only do like a few a year, but it's a

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Speaker 15: lovely thing to do. And yeah, I think you know,

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Speaker 15: it fits fits quite well probably with people in this

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Speaker 15: industry and what they do.

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Speaker 2: Probably it's the performance, isn't it. You're a performer and

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Speaker 2: then you're just a performer at somebody's wedding.

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Speaker 15: You are, yeah, and you're connecting people and you're not.

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Speaker 15: It's about relationships and yeah, giving us sort of speech.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's been absolutely lovely to talk to you, Antonia.

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Speaker 2: I'm so pleased to hear that you're doing this wonderful

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Speaker 2: show and I can't wait for it to come out.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Antonia Prebble of Outrageous Fortune. By the way, Antonia,

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Speaker 2: I told you at the start. Antonia Prebble's doing this podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's called What Matters Most, and basically she talks therapy

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Speaker 2: with her friend who's an expert in this, Jackie Maguire.

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Speaker 2: They're in their fourth season of it. Episode one of

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Speaker 2: What Matters Most comes out tomorrow. It's on perfectionism, which

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Speaker 2: is you'll know is a blessing and a curse. Perfectionism

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 2: makes you good at your job, but who It's exhausting,

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Speaker 2: isn't it if you start doing it on everything like

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Speaker 2: dinner prep?

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Speaker 9: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Tune into that hate twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Heather duplessy Ellen on the My casting Breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: land Rover Discovery News. Tom said, b.

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Speaker 2: Heather, I'm told that the original ending of After the

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Speaker 2: Party left the viewer not knowing who was telling the truth?

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Speaker 2: Do you know, Justine, I've heard exactly the same thing,

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Speaker 2: and then it was written rewritten by the the last

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Speaker 2: minute or something like that. In a way, though I

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Speaker 2: thought about that, in a way, it was kind of

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Speaker 2: refreshing because it's the new thing, isn't it to sort

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Speaker 2: of leave you debating what really happened. It was quite

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Speaker 2: refreshing to just be told so I could just not

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Speaker 2: be emotionally vexed about it for days on end News

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Speaker 2: just out Hamas says it has agreed to release ten hostages.

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 2: Now I think there are only twenty still alive, so

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Speaker 2: that's fully half of them. This is at the ceasefire

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01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 2: talks and Qatar. They say it's really hard to reach truth.

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Speaker 2: They're blaming Israel's intransigence for that. It's eight twenty five. Now,

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Speaker 2: I said, we'll talk about Goleri's garment. So Goleris Garaman

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: has been accused by a restaurant on k Road in

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Speaker 2: Auckland of getting too boozed and behaving inappropriately. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what happened. The facts are scarce at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Right Golriz has given her version of events. She says

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Speaker 2: she and her friends, some incredible Mardi Pacifica and queer leaders.

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Speaker 2: She says, went to Otalia for a bottomless brunch, and

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Speaker 2: she says they got screwed over because the confirmation of

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Speaker 2: the bottomless brunch was hanceled midway through the brunch, which

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Speaker 2: you go, O, well, why would they do that. Well,

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Speaker 2: one of the owners of Italia has responded saying, actually,

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Speaker 2: look she got on the ras and misbehaved, so not

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Speaker 2: a lot of information, but I think if you piece

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Speaker 2: those two bits of information together, it sounds a little bit,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it Like Goldris and her mates went to a

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: bottomless brunch. It was going fine, but they went they

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: went large on the bottomless and at some point the

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Speaker 2: person must have come out and said, right, that's enough

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Speaker 2: bottomless for you, and that's what they're upset about. That's

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Speaker 2: just what I'm deducing from this. Anyway. Now, I suspect,

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Speaker 2: given that the Italia owner has not said a lot

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Speaker 2: or just left it at that, I suspect we may

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Speaker 2: never know what's happened here. But what I will say

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Speaker 2: about this is I think that Goldra's garament has behaved

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Speaker 2: in quite a stink way by bringing this to people's attention.

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Speaker 2: Because the only reason that we know about it is

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Speaker 2: because she went on her Instagram and posted do not

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Speaker 2: go to Aboutelier. Now here's the thing. The reason that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about this is because Goldri has a profile.

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Speaker 2: She has a profile because she was an MP. She

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Speaker 2: has just used that profile to crap on a business.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really stinct thing to do. Look,

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Speaker 2: people in high profile positions, we all of us, everybody

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Speaker 2: out there in the world gets irritated by businesses, probably

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Speaker 2: on a daily basis. You know, you probably get irritated

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Speaker 2: a number of times. Some of them you feel really

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Speaker 2: screwed over by. You feel really upset about the way

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Speaker 2: that a business may have behaved or treated you. But

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Speaker 2: if you have a profile, you don't go out and

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Speaker 2: tell everybody about that and rubbish that business because I

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Speaker 2: don't know. It just feels really like, it feels like

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Speaker 2: punching down. That's what she's just done, isn't she punched down?

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Speaker 2: Not cool? In fact, I feel like just going there

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Speaker 2: to support them, just in case, just in case they

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Speaker 2: need it.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: News is next, nod Live.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day. Heather

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Speaker 1: duperic Ellen on the my casking Breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: Estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural news talks

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Speaker 1: head be.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is a little bit on the boring side.

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Speaker 2: This is one for the politics nerds. But obviously the

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Speaker 2: next big thing that's going to be happening politically in

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Speaker 2: the country is the Tarmaki Makoto by election. Just interesting

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Speaker 2: to see whether it's going to be a contest between

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Speaker 2: the Marty Party and the Labor Party, and it's going

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01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: to be interesting to see who's got the upper hand here.

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Speaker 2: Is Labor, you know, getting back those seats or is

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Speaker 2: the Marty Party just going to whip them at the

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Speaker 2: next election. This will be kind of an indicator. Robert

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Speaker 2: Marty Party is going to meet tonight to decide who

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Speaker 2: they are going to run in the upper in the

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Speaker 2: by election or any Kaiperra who's the former broadcaster. She's

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Speaker 2: the one who's put her hand up, so probably going

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Speaker 2: to be her, But keep an eye on that. Twenty

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Speaker 2: two away.

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Speaker 1: From nine International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Rod little j Uk corresponding, how low to you, Rod?

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Speaker 12: Good morning?

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Speaker 2: How have those tax hikes gone down?

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Speaker 12: It's not good. It's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 12: traction over here. It's because it's been both denied and

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Speaker 12: confirmed as it's ever the case that Labor intends in

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Speaker 12: the next budget to raise taxes somehow, and what the

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Speaker 12: left of the Labor Party is clamoring for is a

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Speaker 12: kind of wealth tax, a tax on money already earned,

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Speaker 12: which will merely hasten the flow of entrepreneurs, businessmen and

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Speaker 12: so on out of the country, which has already been

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01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 12: i think five times the number in the last twelve

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Speaker 12: months that were in the twelve months preceding it. So

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Speaker 12: there's real problems, and there's also problems on the other front,

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Speaker 12: you know, the secure Starma backed down to the rebels,

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Speaker 12: and Rachel Reeves' office is now saying that those rebels

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Speaker 12: have to own the problems with benefits because they didn't

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Speaker 12: vote in favor of the reforms. And you just think,

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 12: but you're a party with a government with a majority

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Speaker 12: of you know, one hundred and sixty one on earth?

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 12: Can he be in this position? So everything which Starma

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,879
Speaker 12: does seems to deepen the hole he's digging for himself.

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Speaker 12: And still he has a spade in his hand, and

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Speaker 12: he intends to continue digging by the look of things.

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Speaker 2: So there's a poll now which suggests about three quarters

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: of Britain's do not believe the promises not to do

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Speaker 2: anything with Texas. But that's probably the worst part of it,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Rod When you say one thing and the

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Speaker 2: public group said it and said we don't believe you.

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Speaker 12: Yes, that's right, and that's partly because the money has

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01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 12: to come from somewhere, and partly because Labour has gone

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 12: back on so many promises over the last twelve to

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Speaker 12: fifteen months before they were in power and just after

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Speaker 12: they were in power. It's changed his mind on so

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 12: many things that you just cannot trust a single thing

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Speaker 12: when they say and as you rightly point out, you know,

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Speaker 12: seventy five percent just don't believe a word they say

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Speaker 12: on anything.

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Speaker 2: So Lord Norman Tibett has died. I see. He's been

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Speaker 2: described as a man of courage who spoke his mind.

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Speaker 2: Is that how you remember him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Difficult man and a very harshly spoken man and one

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01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 12: of the main weapons in Margaret Sachi's armory when she

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 12: was taking on the unions between nineteen seventy nine and

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01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 12: nineteen eighty nine, but had an enormous populist touch. He

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Speaker 12: kind of in a way foreshadowed some of the populist

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01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 12: the right wing populists which we're seeing around today. He

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01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 12: wrote me, Actually I met him a few times. He

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,879
Speaker 12: wrote me one of the best letters I've ever received

1650
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 12: in my life, which was I wrote to him when

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 12: I was at the Today program working for the BBC.

1652
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 12: We were talking to various senior politicians and asking how

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 12: they're related to religion, whether they believed in heaven, whether

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 12: they believed in hell, and so on. And I've got

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 12: a message a letter back from Norman saying, dear little

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 12: I don't know if there is a hell or not,

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 12: but if there is, you will burn in it forever

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 12: yours tebit which cheered me up more than I can

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 12: possibly say. And he was very much like that in

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 12: the House of Commons when one MP who just had

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Speaker 12: a heart attack was becoming very overwrought in the speech,

1662
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 12: he said, yeah, you'll have another heart attack in a minute.

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Speaker 12: He was rightly under the nickname a semi house trained polecat,

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Speaker 12: which is what Michael Cook called him.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Now UK and France have had this meeting right

1666
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: about the migrant work, the migrants coming over in the

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: small boats. Have they actually agreed to do anything or

1668
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: just agreed that something needs to be done.

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Speaker 12: They've definitely agreed that something needs to be done. Nobody's

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01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 12: terribly happy about the one in one out idea of

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 12: Starmer's and Macron. Emmanuel Macron, a CUNEI operator as ever,

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 12: is determined to ring from Britain whatever publicity and triumphs

1673
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 12: he can in order to bolster his own domestics, standing

1674
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 12: at the expense of the expensive clear starmer. So it's

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 12: not been easy. He's been given the full panopy of

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 12: British regal adoration, you know, and mixing with royalty wonderful

1677
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 12: suppers sitting next to the King. Whether that means a

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01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 12: single asylum seeker will be sent back to France, there's

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Speaker 12: something we all look forward to watching out for.

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Speaker 2: Rod, Thanks very much, enjoy the rest of the evening,

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Speaker 2: Rod Little, UK correspondent kell do see Allen, Hey, I

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01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: was wondering, probably like many people, why those West African

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Speaker 2: leaders were going to meet Trump at the White House,

1684
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: why he'd invited them they were hoping to be offered

1685
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: incredible trade deals seemed unlikely. All street journals reporting the

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01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 2: White Houses pushing them to accept migrants deported by the

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01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: US and a kind of rewander deal be interesting to

1688
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 2: see now. As you can imagine, Australia is currently obsessed

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01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 2: with death cat mushies. Everybody's freaking out about possibly foraging

1690
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: for them and eating the wrong ones. Chaps popped up

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01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 2: to tell his story of surviving after eating three of

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01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: them back in nineteen ninety eight because he was walking along,

1693
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 2: saw them under the oak tree, kick them over, thought, oh,

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01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: they'd be nice on the spag bowl, took them home,

1695
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: sliced them, chucked them on top ate them. Tasted like tripe,

1696
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: which probably was the point at which I would have

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: pulled out. But he carried on. He was fine. He

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: was fine the next morning when he woke up cycle

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01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: to work.

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Speaker 6: Fine.

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01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: Nick three o'clock in the afternoon, the diarrhea started. No spewing,

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01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: no pain, just that, but waves of nausea and again

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01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: just kept going on and on and on. Eventually wife

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01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: said to him, by the way, of course, because it's

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01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: a wife. Wives always no says mushrooms you eaten? Anyway,

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01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: the friend came around, who's a doctor to check on him?

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: Wife must have shown him the mushies. Doctor took one

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: look at them, rushed the chap to hospital. No pain,

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01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: so put him anyway because now they're worried, right, check

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01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: them in the air ambulance. Rush him to a bigger hospital.

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01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: Give him an intravenous infusion of penicillin. This is one

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01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: thing that they try for the toxins and the death

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Speaker 2: cap mushies. They're not sure how it works, but they

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Speaker 2: think the antibiotic cuts the uptake of the poison into

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Speaker 2: the liver. No one's really sure anyway, starts to drift

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01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 2: in and out of consciousness as vision is narrowing. He's

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01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: in a dark tunnel, no pain. Still looks at a

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Speaker 2: chart sitting when he's awake, looks at a chuck Siel

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: says that line's going up. That's not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Dead in two days, he thinks I'm gonna die. Then

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Speaker 2: he survives. He doesn't know why he survives. One of

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Speaker 2: them can kill you, three of them is.

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Speaker 16: What he ate.

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Speaker 2: But he did survive, So hope. Just look, first of all,

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: there is hope for all of us. Second of all,

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Speaker 2: I think the lesson we've learned is do not pick

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01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 2: the mushrooms up off the ground if you don't absolutely

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Speaker 2: know what they are, absolutely absolutely Sixteen away from nine

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Speaker 2: the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 1: Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B It is twelve away from nine. News out of

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Speaker 2: the UK which has just come through is that Sir

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Speaker 2: Jake Berry, who's the former chair of the Conservative Party,

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Speaker 2: has just affected to reform. Now. This is fascinating if

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Speaker 2: you've been following UK politics you know that reformers on

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01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: the app and up and people are talking about the

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Speaker 2: realistic possibility now that Nigel Farage may end up at

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Speaker 2: some point as the Prime Minister of the UK. And

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, I am here for this, not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I think Nigel Farage is a

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Speaker 2: fantastic for the UK. I'm just all of my life,

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Speaker 2: in fact, probably all of your, all of our lives.

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody alive right now who hasn't

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01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: lived through a stable period of politics. Right We've had

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: the same parties all around the world basically contesting the

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01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: same elections. It's been the Democrats and the Republics and

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01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: Republicans in the States, Labor and National and New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: with some bits and pieces hanging on. You know, the UK,

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: it's the Tories and lah blah blah blah blah. It's

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01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: all very much the same thing. And for the first

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01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: time really in our lives, we are seeing the up

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 2: ending of this and the possibility that we're actually having

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01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: a proper, a proper shakeup of this, and things fundamentally

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01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: changed and it really started. I mean, it's not a

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: surprise it started with Donald Trump back in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: But what an exciting time to be alive with the

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01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: possibility that you have an old Nigel Farage in charge

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 2: of the UK. Anyway, keep an eye on that. Actually

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01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: did mean to mention this, and I've kind of been

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01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: putting it off because I'm frankly sick of talking about

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Justina at the moment. It's been overload. But we should,

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Speaker 2: we should deal with this as a significant Jacinda is

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01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: apparently happy to come back to well, no, let's be accurate,

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: is happy to give evidence to the COVID inquiry if

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Speaker 2: she's asked. A spokesperson has released a statement saying we

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Speaker 2: are in discussions about the best way for this to occur.

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Speaker 2: She is happy for the Commission to access her previous

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Speaker 2: testimony from the first stage of the Commission of Inquiry.

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Speaker 2: Now at that point, having read the statement, I went, oh,

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01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: is she though, because that sounds to me like she's

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01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: trying to make it look like she's happy to participate,

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: when really she is happy for the Commission to access

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Speaker 2: her previous testimy from the first stage of the Commission

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Speaker 2: of Inquiry. The only reason that that is in the

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01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 2: statement is because that's what they would prefer. They would

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Speaker 2: much prefer by the sounds of the statement, just to

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Speaker 2: read of the statement, much preferred just to have them

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Speaker 2: go yeah.

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Speaker 15: No.

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Speaker 2: She said some other stuff to the other inquiry, which

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Speaker 2: actually was a crap inquiry, which was so crap we

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01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: had to set up a second inquiry. But if you

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01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: go and have a look at the first inquiry, she

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01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 2: said everything she wants to say. That doesn't sound to

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01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: me like Gisinda wants to participate. The more that I

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01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: think about this, and the more that I hear from

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Speaker 2: from you know, that kind of a statement, the more

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Speaker 2: I'm like pusher to participate. Ten away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen on the mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Then they while I've got time, I could not possibly

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01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: let the day go by without giving a shout out

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Speaker 2: to the White Cuttle Regional Council. By the way, my

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01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: legends of the day, they have cut their ties with

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Speaker 2: local government New Zealand, which is a completely useless organization.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's worse than useless. I think I think

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01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: that I think local government New Zealand is worse than

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01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 2: useless and actually useless is not is just not really

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Speaker 2: changing things. Local government New Zealand actively tries to make

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: it worse. They wouldn't think that, I think that, but

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01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: they're active at it. You know, useless is kind of

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01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: an active They're more active than that. Anyway, Whitecattle Regional

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01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Council had a vote. They've decided. It was pretty tight.

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01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: I think it was like six five and somebody had

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: abstained in order to get so. I think controversial may

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01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: get flipped yet, but anyway, they they had a vote

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01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 2: on it and they've decided that they're going to leave

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01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: local government New Zealand, basically because the Strategy and Policy

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01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: Committee chairperson Warren Maher nailed it saying we do not

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Speaker 2: believe the expense of one hundred and twenty two thousand

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01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: dollars every year was justified and the current tough cost

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: of living environment. Every time the government puts something out,

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01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Algae and Z seemed to take the road against it

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01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 2: and want to slap it down. Anyway, it's stink for

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01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: Algae and Zed stinc times for them because there's a

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Speaker 2: growing list of councils who've left in the last two years.

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01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 2: Auckland City, christ Church City, Western Bay of Plenty District Council,

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01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 2: West Coast Regional Council and I now Wycuttle and may

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: that list grow six away from nine.

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Speaker 2: own the most expensive phone on the market, Oh have

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Speaker 2: I got a Samsung Unpacked event for you. Just a

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Speaker 2: few hours ago, Samsung launched its latest range of Galaxies,

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Speaker 2: Z fold and z Flip phones and some smart new

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Speaker 2: What News Art watches as well. The z Flip eight

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Speaker 2: exciting because Samsung has realized that people want to use

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Speaker 2: the whole scream on the screen on the outside. And

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Speaker 2: also this year there is a cheaper fan edition, or

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Speaker 2: what they're calling an FE version. Bit controversial because all

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Speaker 2: this year's Galaxy Watch is a squirkle shaped squirkle is

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01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: not a square, and it is not a circle. It's

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Speaker 2: a squirkle. It's a rounded square, but also quite a

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Speaker 2: rounded not just a standard route. It's quite rounded anyway.

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Speaker 2: At least though on the bright side, they've brought back

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Speaker 2: the rotating bezel on the Galaxy Watch eight because people

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01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 2: love a rotating bezel. But yes, then we come to

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Speaker 2: the granddaddy of all of them, which is the Galaxy

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Speaker 12: Ah.

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Speaker 2: So this is the one that looks kind of like

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Speaker 2: a normal phone until you on unfold it and then

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01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 2: it opens like a book and it's basically a full

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Speaker 2: size eight inch tablet. This year, that screen is the

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Speaker 2: biggest yet, the processor is the most powerful yet, the

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Speaker 2: whole thing is the thinnest fold yet. It's finally got

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: a really good camera on it as well, which is

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01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: just as well because it is not cheap. The watches,

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01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,879
Speaker 2: the Flips, and the Folds seven are now all available

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Speaker 2: for pre order. The top of the line Folds seven

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Speaker 2: with one terabyte of storage is going to set you

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Speaker 2: back a cool four one hundred dollars. Technically it's four

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Speaker 2: thy ninety nine, but let's not squibble about one dollar.

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01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: Let's squabble about it, right, Let's just be honest. It's

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Speaker 2: four thousand, one hundred dollars for a phone that you

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: could drop down the toilet, leave on the plane. I

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01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 2: don't know about you. I don't want to be stressing

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Speaker 2: out that much about a piece of equipment. But if

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Speaker 2: you've got the money, it's really thin though, makes it

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01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: more likely it falls out of your pocket. It's so thin.

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Speaker 2: It is fantastic if you want to, if you want to.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird world that we live in where we

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01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: try to get as little out of our money as possible,

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01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, spend as much money as you can get

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Speaker 2: the tiniest thing possible.

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Speaker 1: But do you have it? Is this it?

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Speaker 15: Sharon? Is it it hearing?

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Speaker 16: Yes?

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Speaker 2: It is Ed Sharance got into painting.

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01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 1: In fact, you didn't know.

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: It looks like Jason Pollock stuff.

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Speaker 15: Go look it up.

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Speaker 2: Have a lovely day, See you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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