1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,827 Speaker 1: from Newstalk. 3 00:00:11,467 --> 00:00:15,867 Speaker 2: Zed b hamous Kerr with high jump gold, Jordy Beamish 4 00:00:15,907 --> 00:00:19,507 Speaker 2: with three thousand meter steeple chase gold, and Maddi Weshy 5 00:00:19,587 --> 00:00:23,027 Speaker 2: with shot put bronze overnight. As well as that Tom 6 00:00:23,067 --> 00:00:25,547 Speaker 2: Walsh was fourth in the men's shot put with the 7 00:00:25,547 --> 00:00:28,867 Speaker 2: season's best twenty one point nine to four meters. There 8 00:00:28,867 --> 00:00:33,267 Speaker 2: were three kiwis Eliza McCartney, Olivia McTaggart and Imogen Eiras 9 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:36,547 Speaker 2: in the women's pole vault final, with Olivia mctaggett the 10 00:00:36,587 --> 00:00:40,067 Speaker 2: best of them in eighth position. Zoey Hobbs just missed 11 00:00:40,107 --> 00:00:42,747 Speaker 2: the final of the women's one hundred meters but finished 12 00:00:42,747 --> 00:00:46,027 Speaker 2: with a ranking of twelfth in the world. Tory Morby 13 00:00:46,147 --> 00:00:49,387 Speaker 2: was seventh in the women's javelin final overnight, and Connor 14 00:00:49,427 --> 00:00:53,587 Speaker 2: Bell competes in the men's discus final tonight. It's quite 15 00:00:53,587 --> 00:00:56,147 Speaker 2: the list. Let's bring in twenty twelve Olympian and two 16 00:00:56,147 --> 00:01:00,347 Speaker 2: time Commonwealth Games heptathlete, now broadcaster, writer and track and 17 00:01:00,387 --> 00:01:04,787 Speaker 2: field analyst Sarah Cawley Ross. Sarah three medals, two gold, 18 00:01:05,107 --> 00:01:07,187 Speaker 2: fifth on the medal table. Did you see this coming? 19 00:01:08,187 --> 00:01:10,707 Speaker 3: I didn't see as high up on the medal table, 20 00:01:10,747 --> 00:01:15,227 Speaker 3: that's for sure. It's been an amazing week for track 21 00:01:15,267 --> 00:01:18,707 Speaker 3: and field in New Zealand and I think Jordy Beamish, 22 00:01:18,787 --> 00:01:21,827 Speaker 3: you know that from the start out of the blocks 23 00:01:21,907 --> 00:01:24,467 Speaker 3: just set the tone really and the rest of the 24 00:01:24,507 --> 00:01:26,787 Speaker 3: team have all risen to the occasion. 25 00:01:27,067 --> 00:01:29,187 Speaker 2: Let's go to Jordi Beamish. How much did you enjoy 26 00:01:29,227 --> 00:01:31,507 Speaker 2: seeing him win gold in the three thousand meter steeple 27 00:01:31,587 --> 00:01:34,427 Speaker 2: chase after falling and being trodden on and qualifying. 28 00:01:35,587 --> 00:01:39,027 Speaker 3: I loved it so much because the thing about Jordi 29 00:01:39,387 --> 00:01:42,227 Speaker 3: he was in such good shape last year and so 30 00:01:42,507 --> 00:01:45,747 Speaker 3: to have not been in the form which he knew 31 00:01:45,867 --> 00:01:50,067 Speaker 3: he was in in Paris was absolutely devastating. So to 32 00:01:50,147 --> 00:01:53,787 Speaker 3: see him come out and show the world what he 33 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:56,867 Speaker 3: can do, and really the race fell into his hands 34 00:01:56,907 --> 00:02:00,427 Speaker 3: because it was so slow and pedestrian and as every 35 00:02:00,547 --> 00:02:03,747 Speaker 3: lap went round it was like, wow, this has been 36 00:02:03,787 --> 00:02:06,267 Speaker 3: set up for Beamish. He is well known for having 37 00:02:06,667 --> 00:02:08,147 Speaker 3: the best cac in the world and it will have 38 00:02:08,227 --> 00:02:10,067 Speaker 3: said it in the week no one will beat him 39 00:02:10,467 --> 00:02:15,227 Speaker 3: in that situation and it showed Albakrley two time Olympic champion, 40 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:16,427 Speaker 3: two time world champion. 41 00:02:16,627 --> 00:02:18,907 Speaker 4: He was punching his face second disbelief. 42 00:02:20,707 --> 00:02:25,067 Speaker 2: And Jordy Beamish won fifteen hundred meters indoor World Championship 43 00:02:25,107 --> 00:02:28,347 Speaker 2: gold last year. He couldn't do both the fifteen hundred 44 00:02:28,387 --> 00:02:30,787 Speaker 2: meters and the three thousand steeples. Good he going forward 45 00:02:30,787 --> 00:02:32,907 Speaker 2: well and an Olympic Games for example. 46 00:02:33,947 --> 00:02:37,067 Speaker 3: Well, the thing with Jordie is in twenty twenty three 47 00:02:37,427 --> 00:02:40,387 Speaker 3: he made the decision to go to steeples. He's actually 48 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:43,907 Speaker 3: our national five thousand meter record holder. He's run thirteen 49 00:02:43,987 --> 00:02:49,027 Speaker 3: o nine outdoors, he's run faster indoors and he ran 50 00:02:49,107 --> 00:02:53,227 Speaker 3: that last year. So he's got the ability at five 51 00:02:53,347 --> 00:02:56,267 Speaker 3: k and he's got the ability at fifteen hundred. What 52 00:02:56,427 --> 00:03:02,347 Speaker 3: he is very he's very smart and strategic and he's done. 53 00:03:02,547 --> 00:03:05,867 Speaker 3: He said, hey, log three thousand is the sweet spot 54 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:07,987 Speaker 3: over the steeples, let's go. 55 00:03:08,507 --> 00:03:09,427 Speaker 4: And you know what that. 56 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:12,227 Speaker 3: Decision paid off. You know in twenty twenty three he 57 00:03:12,267 --> 00:03:15,507 Speaker 3: will finish fifth in the World Championship final and then 58 00:03:15,707 --> 00:03:19,347 Speaker 3: obviously has got the championship. Now, I don't think people 59 00:03:19,467 --> 00:03:24,987 Speaker 3: quite comprehend how much of a stronghold the African continent 60 00:03:25,227 --> 00:03:28,867 Speaker 3: has had on this event until this Kiwi bloke off 61 00:03:28,907 --> 00:03:31,827 Speaker 3: the farm and Havelock North has come and shown up 62 00:03:31,827 --> 00:03:32,187 Speaker 3: the world. 63 00:03:32,347 --> 00:03:35,827 Speaker 2: Absolutely brilliant goal too for high jumpahmish Kerr equalling as 64 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:38,547 Speaker 2: PB of two thirty six. Sir, he's talked about clearing 65 00:03:38,547 --> 00:03:41,587 Speaker 2: two forty, even chasing the world record of two forty five, 66 00:03:41,627 --> 00:03:44,947 Speaker 2: which has stood since nineteen ninety three. Is that realistic? 67 00:03:46,427 --> 00:03:46,747 Speaker 4: I think. 68 00:03:47,027 --> 00:03:52,027 Speaker 3: I think the intermediate goal for me is the outright 69 00:03:52,067 --> 00:03:57,147 Speaker 3: area record because currently he holds that with Tim Forsyth 70 00:03:57,227 --> 00:04:00,387 Speaker 3: of Australia, so they both jointly hold that at two 71 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:02,987 Speaker 3: meters thirty six, which was the same height he won 72 00:04:03,347 --> 00:04:05,987 Speaker 3: earlier in the week. So I think that's the next 73 00:04:06,027 --> 00:04:08,907 Speaker 3: mile stone two forty. You know, when you get to 74 00:04:08,947 --> 00:04:12,747 Speaker 3: those heights, you only you can't see the bar height 75 00:04:12,907 --> 00:04:17,947 Speaker 3: change that much in terms of as you're visually citing 76 00:04:17,987 --> 00:04:21,427 Speaker 3: the bar where you're like, wow, it's high. 77 00:04:21,587 --> 00:04:24,827 Speaker 4: So I don't So to answer your question, yes, I 78 00:04:24,827 --> 00:04:26,667 Speaker 4: think it's possible for hamosh Okay. 79 00:04:26,707 --> 00:04:30,147 Speaker 2: Having three New Zealanders in a World Championship final in 80 00:04:30,187 --> 00:04:33,067 Speaker 2: any event, it's pretty special. We had Eliza McCAT and 81 00:04:33,107 --> 00:04:35,547 Speaker 2: the Olivia mctaggett and imagineris all in the women's pole 82 00:04:35,627 --> 00:04:39,587 Speaker 2: vault final. How have we become so prominent in women's 83 00:04:39,587 --> 00:04:40,227 Speaker 2: pole vault? 84 00:04:41,667 --> 00:04:45,027 Speaker 3: Well, I think we were very lucky in terms of 85 00:04:45,227 --> 00:04:49,987 Speaker 3: the early stage development of these three athletes, the facilities 86 00:04:50,027 --> 00:04:52,747 Speaker 3: that they were exposed to at such a young age, 87 00:04:53,067 --> 00:04:56,427 Speaker 3: and actually the talent transfer for a couple of them 88 00:04:56,867 --> 00:05:02,587 Speaker 3: at Taggett and Heiras from gymnastics. We found out about 89 00:05:03,347 --> 00:05:07,987 Speaker 3: Eliza in twenty sixteen with that credible bonds, and I 90 00:05:08,027 --> 00:05:12,267 Speaker 3: think then that inspired this next generation which McTaggart and 91 00:05:12,427 --> 00:05:15,147 Speaker 3: ers are in. Now we're seeing the fruits of that 92 00:05:15,907 --> 00:05:22,667 Speaker 3: environment coaching and also exposure of belief from your mates, 93 00:05:22,827 --> 00:05:26,547 Speaker 3: your training mates seeing them clear high bars. So that 94 00:05:26,707 --> 00:05:29,907 Speaker 3: is a phenomenal achievement and I think that they'll be 95 00:05:29,947 --> 00:05:33,307 Speaker 3: really happy with that. Obviously, just hugely devastating for Eliza 96 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:37,667 Speaker 3: to have to retire, and she knows if she is 97 00:05:37,747 --> 00:05:43,307 Speaker 3: fit and healthy, she is well capable of taking these titles. 98 00:05:44,147 --> 00:05:47,507 Speaker 3: But I really hope that her body and her mind 99 00:05:47,627 --> 00:05:49,267 Speaker 3: plays ball in the years to come. 100 00:05:49,707 --> 00:05:51,547 Speaker 2: Could any of the three of them contend for the 101 00:05:51,587 --> 00:05:55,107 Speaker 2: Olympic podium in la in twenty twenty eight Well. 102 00:05:55,107 --> 00:05:58,867 Speaker 3: The pub hasn't shifted so much in recent years in 103 00:05:58,907 --> 00:06:02,027 Speaker 3: the heights that generally win. So if you are for 104 00:06:02,267 --> 00:06:05,227 Speaker 3: eighty plus you are going to be right in the mix. 105 00:06:05,547 --> 00:06:07,907 Speaker 3: You know four nine he won the other night four 106 00:06:08,027 --> 00:06:11,787 Speaker 3: ninety five at four ninety. If you're at that bar 107 00:06:12,547 --> 00:06:16,387 Speaker 3: in the right, getting those heights on the first attempt, 108 00:06:16,787 --> 00:06:20,387 Speaker 3: you will be well in the mixer. So McTaggart has 109 00:06:20,427 --> 00:06:23,627 Speaker 3: probably had the best breakthrough season in terms of winning 110 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:26,187 Speaker 3: the London Diamond League. Her personal best now is four 111 00:06:26,347 --> 00:06:29,387 Speaker 3: seventy three, so she will be looking to make that 112 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:33,147 Speaker 3: next jump into the four eighties, which we'll see her 113 00:06:33,587 --> 00:06:35,267 Speaker 3: right in the mix come la. 114 00:06:35,747 --> 00:06:38,307 Speaker 2: Just before we leave the pole vault, Swedish superstar Mondo 115 00:06:38,347 --> 00:06:41,227 Speaker 2: de plant Is clared six point thirty in Tokyo, his 116 00:06:41,347 --> 00:06:44,507 Speaker 2: fourteenth world record. Incredible. Can you put into context just 117 00:06:44,547 --> 00:06:46,307 Speaker 2: how special what he is doing is. 118 00:06:48,427 --> 00:06:51,907 Speaker 3: He has taken the whole sport, not just pole vault, 119 00:06:52,827 --> 00:06:56,387 Speaker 3: but the sport of athletics to an extra level. And 120 00:06:56,467 --> 00:07:01,187 Speaker 3: what he is doing is elevating pole volt into heights 121 00:07:01,187 --> 00:07:05,267 Speaker 3: that people just never imagined. And what I love about 122 00:07:05,267 --> 00:07:09,507 Speaker 3: Mondo is that every time he's a showman, he but 123 00:07:09,627 --> 00:07:12,667 Speaker 3: he delivers. And for him to have that pressure on 124 00:07:12,747 --> 00:07:14,827 Speaker 3: him every time to go, oh, well, you know, all 125 00:07:14,827 --> 00:07:17,147 Speaker 3: these people are showing up, the world is watching. You know, 126 00:07:17,267 --> 00:07:19,427 Speaker 3: probably he's going to jump a world record, but it's 127 00:07:19,467 --> 00:07:22,867 Speaker 3: actually so much harder than it just and then it 128 00:07:22,907 --> 00:07:25,827 Speaker 3: sounds like me just spouting that off what he is doing, 129 00:07:25,867 --> 00:07:29,307 Speaker 3: the speed he is running in with with this long pole, 130 00:07:29,667 --> 00:07:32,387 Speaker 3: having to accurately place it in the pot in the 131 00:07:32,427 --> 00:07:36,867 Speaker 3: box and then basically you've got two pendulums happening, the 132 00:07:36,907 --> 00:07:40,307 Speaker 3: pole going round over the jumping box and then the 133 00:07:40,587 --> 00:07:42,667 Speaker 3: mondo going around the pole. 134 00:07:43,147 --> 00:07:44,627 Speaker 4: And six meters thirty. 135 00:07:45,467 --> 00:07:49,467 Speaker 3: It is so high and he's able to execute this 136 00:07:50,227 --> 00:07:53,227 Speaker 3: and just deliver it once again. You know, he's got 137 00:07:53,267 --> 00:07:56,547 Speaker 3: a world record bonus from World Athletics, but he's doing 138 00:07:56,707 --> 00:07:59,707 Speaker 3: very well from his other commercial endorsements as well. But 139 00:07:59,787 --> 00:08:03,947 Speaker 3: it's great to see because he's entertainer and he's delivering 140 00:08:04,667 --> 00:08:05,387 Speaker 3: when it counts. 141 00:08:05,547 --> 00:08:09,227 Speaker 2: Totally remarked, you're very close with Zoe Hobbs. She missed 142 00:08:09,227 --> 00:08:12,067 Speaker 2: the one hundred meter final eleven one six in her heat, 143 00:08:12,107 --> 00:08:14,947 Speaker 2: you around eleven o nine in her semi. Missing the finals, 144 00:08:14,947 --> 00:08:17,867 Speaker 2: I say, finishing twelfth in the world. How will Zoe 145 00:08:17,867 --> 00:08:18,907 Speaker 2: Hobbs be feeling about that. 146 00:08:20,827 --> 00:08:23,107 Speaker 4: I think she's gutted. 147 00:08:23,427 --> 00:08:26,707 Speaker 3: She's definitely gutted to not make the final, but I 148 00:08:26,747 --> 00:08:30,987 Speaker 3: think that she's really trying to make that transition from 149 00:08:31,147 --> 00:08:34,067 Speaker 3: semi finalists now into the final. 150 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:37,107 Speaker 4: That's a really tough ass. 151 00:08:37,147 --> 00:08:41,107 Speaker 3: You're talking about hundreds thousands of a second where you 152 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:43,707 Speaker 3: need to execute, and I know that her team have 153 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:47,227 Speaker 3: put an extra emphasis on that semi final race in 154 00:08:47,307 --> 00:08:50,347 Speaker 3: terms of the preparation they put in this year to 155 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:51,667 Speaker 3: make that next jump. 156 00:08:51,987 --> 00:08:53,587 Speaker 4: You know, twelve fast in the world. 157 00:08:53,787 --> 00:08:57,667 Speaker 3: She's disappointed, but there's only eleven other women in the 158 00:08:57,667 --> 00:08:59,587 Speaker 3: world who are faster than her, and I think New 159 00:08:59,707 --> 00:09:02,827 Speaker 3: Zealand needs to really realize that and really realize what 160 00:09:02,867 --> 00:09:05,107 Speaker 3: a phenomenal athlete Zoe Hobbs is. 161 00:09:05,387 --> 00:09:05,547 Speaker 4: Now. 162 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:09,947 Speaker 3: Hopefully she'll the next jump up and this campaign will 163 00:09:09,987 --> 00:09:13,347 Speaker 3: have taught her and her team so much, and I 164 00:09:13,387 --> 00:09:17,507 Speaker 3: think we'll see another version of Zoe come out in 165 00:09:17,547 --> 00:09:20,067 Speaker 3: the next few years as she builds to LA can't wait. 166 00:09:20,307 --> 00:09:23,547 Speaker 2: Maddi Wishy Olympic silver last year, now World Championship bronze 167 00:09:23,587 --> 00:09:26,067 Speaker 2: new PB of twenty four to zero six meters. She's 168 00:09:26,067 --> 00:09:29,387 Speaker 2: only twenty six. Dame Valerie Adams will still winning gold 169 00:09:29,427 --> 00:09:31,547 Speaker 2: medals in her thirties and Olympic bronze when she was 170 00:09:31,907 --> 00:09:34,387 Speaker 2: thirty six years old. What do you predict for Maddi. 171 00:09:34,227 --> 00:09:41,187 Speaker 3: Wishy Maddie Wishi delivers at major championships once again, she 172 00:09:41,267 --> 00:09:44,347 Speaker 3: has thrown an equal personal best in the heat of 173 00:09:44,347 --> 00:09:47,427 Speaker 3: the moment, and I just think that she is such 174 00:09:47,467 --> 00:09:50,947 Speaker 3: a competitor and ever since she won her World Junior 175 00:09:50,987 --> 00:09:54,787 Speaker 3: title and that brilliant silver last year in Paris, you 176 00:09:54,827 --> 00:09:59,027 Speaker 3: know she is able to at a major championship, get 177 00:09:59,827 --> 00:10:03,147 Speaker 3: physically prepared to be able to do it, but mentally 178 00:10:03,347 --> 00:10:05,707 Speaker 3: switch on and you know she's got a long career 179 00:10:05,747 --> 00:10:08,427 Speaker 3: ahead of her if she wants it. And I think 180 00:10:08,507 --> 00:10:10,907 Speaker 3: hats off to her and her coach Matt Mike Schofield, 181 00:10:10,907 --> 00:10:13,227 Speaker 3: because that was a great competition. I think they're pretty 182 00:10:13,227 --> 00:10:16,387 Speaker 3: gutted that they didn't get the gold, but actually no 183 00:10:16,427 --> 00:10:18,867 Speaker 3: one can take away from the fact that she's a 184 00:10:18,947 --> 00:10:20,627 Speaker 3: World Championship bronze medalist. 185 00:10:20,947 --> 00:10:22,667 Speaker 2: And just a word on Tory Morby as well. I 186 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:25,387 Speaker 2: was at a function a couple of months ago and 187 00:10:25,387 --> 00:10:26,987 Speaker 2: I heard her speak and I was really impressed by 188 00:10:26,987 --> 00:10:30,707 Speaker 2: her seventh in the women's javelin overnight didn't really get 189 00:10:30,707 --> 00:10:33,547 Speaker 2: close to her PB. Is seventh a good result for 190 00:10:33,587 --> 00:10:35,627 Speaker 2: her or will she be disappointed with that? 191 00:10:36,947 --> 00:10:38,627 Speaker 4: It's a really good result for Tory. 192 00:10:38,787 --> 00:10:41,907 Speaker 3: This is the first time that she's made the Championship final, 193 00:10:42,347 --> 00:10:46,587 Speaker 3: and I think that that for her in itself is 194 00:10:46,627 --> 00:10:50,347 Speaker 3: another step forward. I think the way that the competition 195 00:10:50,467 --> 00:10:53,587 Speaker 3: works in terms of the top ten getting another two throw, 196 00:10:53,747 --> 00:10:56,907 Speaker 3: then top eight and then top six, she's pretty gutted 197 00:10:56,907 --> 00:10:59,547 Speaker 3: to not get into that final top six that she 198 00:10:59,587 --> 00:11:03,187 Speaker 3: got bumped in that last and that penultimate round. Yes, 199 00:11:03,627 --> 00:11:07,707 Speaker 3: you need to be throwing great distance in that final 200 00:11:07,747 --> 00:11:11,187 Speaker 3: throw and in the final, which we saw her great 201 00:11:11,227 --> 00:11:15,227 Speaker 3: throw in qualifying. So I think overall, seventh is actually 202 00:11:15,547 --> 00:11:16,267 Speaker 3: a very good. 203 00:11:16,147 --> 00:11:16,707 Speaker 4: Result for her. 204 00:11:17,307 --> 00:11:20,387 Speaker 2: Always enjoy your terrific track and field analysis, Sarah, Thanks 205 00:11:20,387 --> 00:11:21,747 Speaker 2: so much for joining us this afternoon. 206 00:11:22,547 --> 00:11:25,307 Speaker 3: Thanks Piney, and thanks to everyone who's tuned in and 207 00:11:25,307 --> 00:11:27,307 Speaker 3: support the Kyis in Tokyo this week. 208 00:11:27,347 --> 00:11:27,987 Speaker 4: It's been awesome. 209 00:11:28,067 --> 00:11:30,227 Speaker 2: It has been awesome. I've loved it. Thanks indeed, Sarah. 210 00:11:30,307 --> 00:11:33,067 Speaker 2: Sarah Caley Ross there with some great analysis on New 211 00:11:33,147 --> 00:11:35,867 Speaker 2: Zealand's performances at the World Track and Field Champs in Tokyo. 212 00:11:35,907 --> 00:11:39,067 Speaker 2: Won to go Connor Bell in the discus final tonight, 213 00:11:39,827 --> 00:11:42,027 Speaker 2: but regardless of how he goes it will still be 214 00:11:42,587 --> 00:11:45,067 Speaker 2: among our most successful. In fact, by medals our most 215 00:11:45,067 --> 00:11:48,187 Speaker 2: successful World Track and Field Champs golds to Hamishkurre and 216 00:11:48,227 --> 00:11:51,707 Speaker 2: Jordie Beamish and the bronze to Maddy Wish. Looking forward 217 00:11:51,747 --> 00:11:54,947 Speaker 2: to seeing how they and many of our other athletes 218 00:11:54,987 --> 00:11:56,987 Speaker 2: go over the next little while, Commonwealth Games next year 219 00:11:56,987 --> 00:11:59,827 Speaker 2: of course, and then on towards the Olympics in La 220 00:12:00,067 --> 00:12:01,147 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. 221 00:12:01,907 --> 00:12:05,107 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 222 00:12:05,227 --> 00:12:08,507 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 223 00:12:08,547 --> 00:12:10,147 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio