1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Devin Gray UK correspondence with me Hi Deevin Hi. They have, right, 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: what's the fallout from the count that was driven into 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: pedestrians and Derby. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Well, we're expecting a thirty six year old man to 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: appear in court now, but we are understanding that it 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: is definitely not being treated as an act of terrorism. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: So right on a busy Saturday evening period at the weekend, 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: a car drove through crowds of people right in the 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: heart of Derby when it would have been extremely busy 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: with those out and enjoying the weekend, and this black 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Suzuki Swift basically crashed into a number of people. There 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: were seven seriously hurt and everybody of course very concerned 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: that it might have been something else. But instead we 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: now know that Sandu Ponachan, who is from Derby and 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: originally from India, dub Beifore magistrates shortly charged with six 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: counts of grievous bodily harm with intent, one count of 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: attempted grievous bodily harm with intent, one count of dangers 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: driving and also possession of a bladed article. Still no 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: idea on what the various motives might have been for this, 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: but yeah, they are now definitely ruling out a terrorism incident. 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Hey, what's the problem with a man kissing a woman's hand? 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Ah, slightly more complicated than it may seem this one. Yes, 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm bearing in mind that it is April Fool's Day here, 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, just being slightly an unusual story. 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: So this dates back to twenty twenty three. Heather. A 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: man approaches a woman at a bus stop in Madrid, Spain. 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: He kisses her hand, but then makes gestures to suggest 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: that she follow him and that he would pay for 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 2: her now. A court found the man guilty of sexual 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: assault and find him roughly three thousand New Zealand dollars. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: A sanction upheld in Madrid's provincial tribunal, but the convicted 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: man took the case to the Supreme Court. He said, look, 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: there was no violence or intimidation. He said it happened 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: in broad daylight. Yes, she might have felt bothered, she 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: might even have been offended as a vig him of 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: an intrusion into her comfort zone, but he said there 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: was never a risk for her sexual integrity. He said 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: it also took place virtually outside a police station. Well, 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: his legal team said his actions constituted a lesser crime 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: of harassment. But no, they said, the fact that you 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: kissed her hand and took her hand without consent is 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: a clear and obvious sexual connotation. Spain a country really 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: really wrestling at the moment with consensual sex and also 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: with it with male female relationships. 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, So the forty million dollars the UK 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: is paying Frances to patrol the beaches is in. 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: Mmm for the next two months, and lots of people thinking, 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: what are we getting back for this? So over the 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: years France has paid, Sorry, the UK has paid France 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: more than a billion New Zealand dollars for extra patrols 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: to disrupt migrant smuggling gangs. Now the French are supposed 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: to be doing this anyway, but apparently we've been paying 53 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: all this money for them to do more of it, 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: and plenty of people suspect that actually they're not doing 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: very much more for that amount of money, And indeed 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: opposition parties have said that the existing agreement is absolute nonsense. Anyway, 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: it expired almost seven hours ago now midnight our time, 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: and there's all sorts of talk, you know, is it 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: going to be renewed, Is it going to be scrapped, 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: what's going to go on. Well, at the moment, all 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: they're doing is just extending it for two months at 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: a cost of forty million New Zealand dollars and again 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: people saying, what we're paying that much for just this 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: extra period of time. You know what proof is there 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: this is having any effect. We're still getting you know, 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: record numbers of asylum seekers, forty two thousand illegal migrants 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: getting on boats, mostly from France across in the last 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: year and people are just saying this is utter madness. 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Does sound like it? Kevin, thank you very much, appreciate 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: it and enjoy your Easter week in. That's Kevin Gray, 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: our UK correspondent. 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.