1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: With me right now. Is Shane Soley of Harbor Asset 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Management has Shane hi Heaver? So Is Sir Steven Tindall 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the answer to the warehouse problems? 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Well, he's certainly been a tough time for the warehouse 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: and there's been a few changes there. But yes, Stephen 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: and the Tindal Foundation, combined with Adamanti Capital Partners made 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: a have made proposed takeover for the business. Companies are 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: saying just a little bit careful, it's not a not 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: time to sell your hues as Yep, it's not a 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: full approach, it's not quite a full offer, but certainly 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: with mister Tinder and the Tindal Foundation controlling forty nine 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: percent of the warehouse, they are quite a long way 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: there already. So stop praising it up twenty five percent 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: on the day to a dollar forty five So big burst. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: What do you reckon his motivation is? Is he just 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: getting tired of how poorly his own shares are performing? 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think he's probably observing that, you know, 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: the market is being a little bit unkind to the 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: longer term prospects for the business. But it probably needs 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: a bit of work, a bit of panel beating, it's 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: not a great term fixing reshaping. You can probably do 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: better with total control. 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: What do you make Shane of the Veda offer. 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so another another bid today. It's a stone Peak, 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: it's a US infrastructure real estate group. The bid one 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: point two billion dollars for to take over all of 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: our DADA. That's a dollars seventy bid, sixty five percent 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: premium to where it was on Friday. It's pretty chunky, 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: look and that's all about taking advantage of the fact 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: that the market has been pretty harsh on anything residential related. 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: Did you think that's interest rates into the And certainly 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: the our data team have been doing a good job 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: in tough conditions and there's just a big gap there. 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: And soon it was sending the board, the ADA board. So yes, 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: we're open to this proposal. It will still to get 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: to here. They've got to get through overseas investment acts, 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: through the Overseas Investment Office, but certainly recent presidents of 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: use he should be able to get there. Again. The 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: stop place up fifty six percent to a dollar sixty 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: one to day, So there's a big moves. 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it is amongst the retirement village stocks that 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: are doing it a bit tough obvious reasons at the moment. 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: When do you think it twos a round for them? 44 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think this is the piece that as investors 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: we're all waiting for a tune, and particularly the ability 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: for people to sell their homes to move and lots 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: of demand from senior older New Zealanders wanting to move 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: into villages, but of course most still have their money 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: wrapped up in their home and if you can't see 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: your home, it really slows things down. So that's the key. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: And of course the other week we saw the Reserve 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Bank New Zealand show the first inclining they're going to 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: look at cutting rates with the Munshie Policy Review, where 54 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: they talked that we think we're there. So we've already 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: seen today another round of mortgage rate cuts, this time 56 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: from the ASP. So we've seen several banks in the 57 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: last week or so come up with reasonable cuts to 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: the morghich is that might be enough just to underpin 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: the residential market, get it back. We're here again, which 60 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: will help this retirement h Q sector. 61 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: You're too right, Hey, so did Joe Biden stepping aside 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: have any impact on the dollar in the markets. 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, we've seen a little bit of alatility 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: out there. Actually, this is probably the key change that 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: in this potential recovery of Democrat Poland just throws a 66 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: bit of a spanner in the works. The market had 67 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: moved to Hey, the Republicans are going to win. All 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: the Trump trades are on things that are benefiting from 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: Trump Republican policies, such the banks, small cap companies, energy. 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: They've had a good rally. Certainly in the last twenty 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: four hours we've seen potentially some of that swing and yeah, 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: the US dollar has been one part of it. We'll 73 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: see the night. What happens in the US is the market. 74 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: So just a little bit of a change in time. 75 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: There's got a long way to go though here. And 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: you never want to doubt the potential for a Trump 77 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Republican grouping given how well they're Poland. 78 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I would agree with you on that. Hey, Shane, thank 79 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: you as always appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week. 80 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: Is Shange solely of Harbor Asset Management. For more from 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Hither Dupless Yellen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.