1
00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972
Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed be

2
00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133
Speaker 1: follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.

3
00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:19,412
Speaker 2: How you Got New Zealand doesn't allow a little Welcome

4
00:00:19,692 --> 00:00:22,532
Speaker 2: to Matt and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one nine

5
00:00:22,733 --> 00:00:26,373
Speaker 2: six for Tuesday, the second of September, Year of Our

6
00:00:26,453 --> 00:00:28,653
Speaker 2: Lord twenty twenty five. Boy took a hammering in the

7
00:00:28,653 --> 00:00:31,613
Speaker 2: show today on my full throw of support for the

8
00:00:31,653 --> 00:00:35,293
Speaker 2: CEO who's been slammed online for snatching a hat off

9
00:00:35,333 --> 00:00:36,732
Speaker 2: a child at the US Open.

10
00:00:36,893 --> 00:00:38,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got spicy, Spicy.

11
00:00:38,933 --> 00:00:42,293
Speaker 2: I produced some further evidence in this defense. But you know,

12
00:00:42,373 --> 00:00:45,132
Speaker 2: it started off with that hate Matt fizz, But I

13
00:00:45,173 --> 00:00:46,652
Speaker 2: think I turned some people around by the end.

14
00:00:46,772 --> 00:00:48,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be the judge on that.

15
00:00:48,613 --> 00:00:51,772
Speaker 2: Initially swimming up stream of a sea of hate, but

16
00:00:51,853 --> 00:00:56,133
Speaker 2: then I got the lila of support later.

17
00:00:55,973 --> 00:00:59,333
Speaker 3: On great Analogy, Yeah beautifully pot Yeah, and some great

18
00:00:59,413 --> 00:01:01,413
Speaker 3: chat about Father's Day as well. What does the perfect

19
00:01:01,413 --> 00:01:04,613
Speaker 3: Father's Day look like? And there's a few tigs that

20
00:01:04,693 --> 00:01:06,893
Speaker 3: came through. They kind of indicated what we all know

21
00:01:06,973 --> 00:01:10,773
Speaker 3: fathers want for Father's Day from the mum. But we yeah,

22
00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:11,813
Speaker 3: what about your imagination?

23
00:01:12,013 --> 00:01:14,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, we let a few let a few texts go

24
00:01:14,493 --> 00:01:16,613
Speaker 2: through the keeper on that one. But yeah, great show.

25
00:01:16,773 --> 00:01:18,813
Speaker 3: Download, subscribe and give us a review.

26
00:01:18,853 --> 00:01:20,453
Speaker 2: And give a taste a Kiwi. All right, you seem

27
00:01:20,453 --> 00:01:21,612
Speaker 2: busy there you go, Love.

28
00:01:21,453 --> 00:01:25,333
Speaker 1: You a little, big stories, the legal issues, the big

29
00:01:25,373 --> 00:01:29,493
Speaker 1: trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

30
00:01:29,533 --> 00:01:31,573
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talk said.

31
00:01:31,413 --> 00:01:35,453
Speaker 3: The very good Afternoons You welcome into Tuesday show. Hope

32
00:01:35,453 --> 00:01:37,652
Speaker 3: you're doing well. What if you're listening in the country.

33
00:01:37,373 --> 00:01:39,253
Speaker 2: Tyler, I've got a question for you. What do you

34
00:01:39,292 --> 00:01:41,932
Speaker 2: think when you see a runner with a camel pack

35
00:01:42,013 --> 00:01:44,172
Speaker 2: and the little tube that comes out like a drip

36
00:01:44,212 --> 00:01:45,413
Speaker 2: into their mouth while they're running.

37
00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:48,813
Speaker 3: I think the hardcore and a little bit punishing.

38
00:01:48,693 --> 00:01:51,613
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, because I've started running such long distances. Now

39
00:01:51,613 --> 00:01:53,333
Speaker 2: I'm running the camel pack, but I feel a little

40
00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:56,933
Speaker 2: bit humiliated by it because I run so slow. It

41
00:01:57,053 --> 00:02:00,573
Speaker 2: just feels like overcool to be carrying this equipment around

42
00:02:00,573 --> 00:02:01,573
Speaker 2: with me and the little.

43
00:02:01,893 --> 00:02:04,413
Speaker 3: Yeah bang on. If I see someone with a camel pack,

44
00:02:04,493 --> 00:02:06,493
Speaker 3: I want them going at a good pace, and usually

45
00:02:06,533 --> 00:02:09,333
Speaker 3: they are are pretty impressive individual so that kind of

46
00:02:09,413 --> 00:02:10,453
Speaker 3: lets them off the punishing.

47
00:02:10,493 --> 00:02:13,293
Speaker 2: We Yeah, I think i'd like what I'd like to

48
00:02:13,293 --> 00:02:15,532
Speaker 2: have is some kind of marker on me to say

49
00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:18,692
Speaker 2: how far I've run, because if I've run twenty k

50
00:02:18,933 --> 00:02:20,692
Speaker 2: and you're seeing me at the twenty k mark, then

51
00:02:20,733 --> 00:02:23,813
Speaker 2: I'm going to be running very slowly and very sweaty. Yeah,

52
00:02:23,853 --> 00:02:25,733
Speaker 2: but a lot of people might see me that guy's

53
00:02:25,773 --> 00:02:28,373
Speaker 2: got a camel pack on, he's very slow and sweaty,

54
00:02:28,733 --> 00:02:30,412
Speaker 2: and they might think it's my first k, you know

55
00:02:30,453 --> 00:02:30,773
Speaker 2: what I mean.

56
00:02:30,813 --> 00:02:32,412
Speaker 3: So you just need to we sign above your head

57
00:02:32,413 --> 00:02:34,653
Speaker 3: that you're on K eighteen. So if I'm going a

58
00:02:34,653 --> 00:02:36,692
Speaker 3: bit slow and I'm a bit sweaty, yeah, you know

59
00:02:36,733 --> 00:02:38,773
Speaker 3: I've run. I've run a good disc and this is this.

60
00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:40,653
Speaker 2: Is a real run, not a fun run. So that's

61
00:02:40,653 --> 00:02:42,253
Speaker 2: why I need the camel pack. But yeah, I feel

62
00:02:42,252 --> 00:02:43,533
Speaker 2: slightly humiliated by the whole thing.

63
00:02:43,532 --> 00:02:44,453
Speaker 3: Does anyone look at you.

64
00:02:46,252 --> 00:02:49,453
Speaker 2: Look side glances. I've just had a few comments from

65
00:02:49,493 --> 00:02:52,653
Speaker 2: people that you know, follow me on social media or

66
00:02:52,693 --> 00:02:55,253
Speaker 2: whatever that see me, and you know, one comment was,

67
00:02:55,293 --> 00:02:56,453
Speaker 2: you look like you're running backwards.

68
00:02:57,453 --> 00:02:59,413
Speaker 3: Can you please post a picture and chuck it up

69
00:02:59,453 --> 00:03:00,053
Speaker 3: on Instagram?

70
00:03:00,133 --> 00:03:03,252
Speaker 2: I don't run them coming on what so you want

71
00:03:03,293 --> 00:03:05,093
Speaker 2: me to be not only running with a camel pack

72
00:03:05,293 --> 00:03:07,213
Speaker 2: in a little sipper, but also to hold my phone

73
00:03:07,213 --> 00:03:08,653
Speaker 2: out and take selfies. Will doing it?

74
00:03:08,773 --> 00:03:08,933
Speaker 4: Yes?

75
00:03:08,972 --> 00:03:09,252
Speaker 3: Please?

76
00:03:09,293 --> 00:03:09,453
Speaker 4: Yes?

77
00:03:09,532 --> 00:03:13,093
Speaker 3: Is that too much to ask? Right on to today's

78
00:03:13,133 --> 00:03:16,493
Speaker 3: show after three o'clock. We didn't get to this yesterday,

79
00:03:16,493 --> 00:03:18,893
Speaker 3: but it's coming up on Sunday, big day for dads

80
00:03:19,493 --> 00:03:21,653
Speaker 3: around the country, Father's Day. What is the best gift

81
00:03:21,693 --> 00:03:22,213
Speaker 3: to get a dad?

82
00:03:22,453 --> 00:03:25,732
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to say it. Just let us be yeap,

83
00:03:25,893 --> 00:03:28,293
Speaker 2: just let us be Let us be us for a day.

84
00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:30,093
Speaker 2: That's all we want. We don't want any presents, we

85
00:03:30,133 --> 00:03:31,813
Speaker 2: don't want anything. We just want to hear that we

86
00:03:31,972 --> 00:03:34,213
Speaker 2: loved maybe a bit of brecky and then you go

87
00:03:34,413 --> 00:03:36,173
Speaker 2: be you with your mates for the day. You get

88
00:03:36,213 --> 00:03:38,732
Speaker 2: out of the house, you know everything sort of hall pass.

89
00:03:38,613 --> 00:03:41,893
Speaker 3: That sounds like blessed that. Yeah, that is after three o'clock.

90
00:03:41,933 --> 00:03:44,053
Speaker 3: After two o'clock, you would have seen this video. It's

91
00:03:44,133 --> 00:03:46,373
Speaker 3: everywhere at the moment. The man who was caught on

92
00:03:46,453 --> 00:03:49,093
Speaker 3: cameras snatching a hat off a young boy at the

93
00:03:49,213 --> 00:03:51,213
Speaker 3: US Open has said that he made a huge mistake.

94
00:03:51,293 --> 00:03:53,813
Speaker 3: After the footage of the incident has gone viral, they've

95
00:03:53,853 --> 00:03:57,013
Speaker 3: tracked him down. His name is Peter Shsherick. He's a

96
00:03:57,013 --> 00:03:59,813
Speaker 3: Polish chief executive of a paving firm, and said he

97
00:03:59,933 --> 00:04:03,813
Speaker 3: was convinced the tennis star Camille Mike Harzak had been

98
00:04:03,853 --> 00:04:05,333
Speaker 3: passing the hat in his direction.

99
00:04:05,773 --> 00:04:09,733
Speaker 2: Look, I'm on the outside on this as an issue,

100
00:04:09,773 --> 00:04:12,613
Speaker 2: but I think he's been unfairly stitched up. And I've

101
00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:14,813
Speaker 2: gone through the footage closely, and I think this is

102
00:04:14,933 --> 00:04:19,173
Speaker 2: just shaming on a global scale. We're just so keen

103
00:04:19,213 --> 00:04:22,053
Speaker 2: to find someone to name and shame and go. He's

104
00:04:22,413 --> 00:04:25,093
Speaker 2: he's the worst person in the world without seeing what

105
00:04:25,213 --> 00:04:27,613
Speaker 2: was before it, Because what's before it's interesting, and after

106
00:04:27,653 --> 00:04:30,253
Speaker 2: it's interesting. In his behavior afterwards and who he is

107
00:04:30,293 --> 00:04:31,693
Speaker 2: as a person, I think a lot of it as

108
00:04:31,693 --> 00:04:34,893
Speaker 2: we go. CEO, he's rich, so I hate him, which

109
00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:38,093
Speaker 2: is a horrible new way of thinking that seems to

110
00:04:38,133 --> 00:04:42,693
Speaker 2: have slight slider cost parts of the Internet. So whether

111
00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:45,893
Speaker 2: it's a CEO, whoever, he is irrelevant towards his behavior,

112
00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:48,453
Speaker 2: and I think I can put an argument together that

113
00:04:48,493 --> 00:04:50,093
Speaker 2: he has done nothing wrong here.

114
00:04:50,173 --> 00:04:52,133
Speaker 3: Oh that's going to be good. That is after two o'clock.

115
00:04:52,173 --> 00:04:54,693
Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about Amazon. So

116
00:04:54,813 --> 00:04:57,893
Speaker 3: Amazon Web Services has launched a new Zealand data centers,

117
00:04:58,173 --> 00:05:01,733
Speaker 3: a move that is worth about seven point five billion dollars.

118
00:05:01,773 --> 00:05:03,373
Speaker 3: So it has been hailed as a game change for

119
00:05:03,453 --> 00:05:06,452
Speaker 3: jobs and tech growth, promising around one thousand new jobs

120
00:05:06,453 --> 00:05:08,653
Speaker 3: and a big boost for the economy. Some of the

121
00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:12,093
Speaker 3: high powered wigs of Amazon Web Services have been in

122
00:05:12,133 --> 00:05:16,333
Speaker 3: the country today and did launch some new software that

123
00:05:16,413 --> 00:05:19,213
Speaker 3: New Zealand businesses can take advantage of. It's the new

124
00:05:19,293 --> 00:05:22,813
Speaker 3: AWS region in New Zealand, and the company itself said

125
00:05:22,813 --> 00:05:25,533
Speaker 3: it will help serve the growing demand for cloud services

126
00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:28,853
Speaker 3: across the country and empower organizations of all sizes to

127
00:05:28,933 --> 00:05:30,773
Speaker 3: accelerate their digital transformation.

128
00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:32,653
Speaker 2: So what do you think of this data center? What

129
00:05:32,653 --> 00:05:34,693
Speaker 2: do you think of the investment. Nothing seems to have

130
00:05:34,693 --> 00:05:36,893
Speaker 2: been built yet, and these announcements today is a little

131
00:05:36,893 --> 00:05:38,893
Speaker 2: bit tricky around what it is, because we want to

132
00:05:38,893 --> 00:05:43,493
Speaker 2: see something being built, and you know, if Amazon want

133
00:05:43,493 --> 00:05:45,293
Speaker 2: to build something and they're finding it hard to build

134
00:05:45,293 --> 00:05:49,813
Speaker 2: something because of whatever regulations that are being slapped on them,

135
00:05:50,013 --> 00:05:54,493
Speaker 2: or if they're finding something they're concerned about our power prices, Yeah,

136
00:05:54,733 --> 00:05:56,573
Speaker 2: we'll look into all that. Then that might be a

137
00:05:56,653 --> 00:05:59,493
Speaker 2: question of whether we are geared up to have big

138
00:05:59,493 --> 00:06:02,013
Speaker 2: investment in this country and what we need to change absolutely.

139
00:06:02,053 --> 00:06:03,893
Speaker 3: So there's a big deep dive by Chris Kell, you

140
00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:06,253
Speaker 3: can read it on the Herald now. So he's visited

141
00:06:06,293 --> 00:06:10,053
Speaker 3: the site where this new data center was originally slated

142
00:06:10,093 --> 00:06:13,133
Speaker 3: for but at present so there's no workers, there's no

143
00:06:13,213 --> 00:06:15,613
Speaker 3: dig there's no real progress. But Amazon at this stage

144
00:06:15,613 --> 00:06:19,293
Speaker 3: refuses to confirm what's happening, citing security reasons and it

145
00:06:19,333 --> 00:06:21,853
Speaker 3: may have stalled due to high energy costs. So looking

146
00:06:21,853 --> 00:06:23,213
Speaker 3: forward to your thoughts on this. One oh eight, one

147
00:06:23,253 --> 00:06:26,053
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Coming up,

148
00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:27,693
Speaker 3: we are going to have a chat with Peter Griffin,

149
00:06:27,733 --> 00:06:30,253
Speaker 3: tech commentator. If you've got a question for Peter about

150
00:06:30,253 --> 00:06:32,973
Speaker 3: this deal. Nine two ninety two is the text number,

151
00:06:33,093 --> 00:06:36,813
Speaker 3: but he is coming up next. It is eleven past one.

152
00:06:38,053 --> 00:06:41,453
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

153
00:06:41,773 --> 00:06:45,573
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

154
00:06:45,573 --> 00:06:46,173
Speaker 1: talk za'd be.

155
00:06:46,733 --> 00:06:48,613
Speaker 3: Z it'd b It's fourteen past one. So what do

156
00:06:48,653 --> 00:06:51,413
Speaker 3: we make of the Amazon Web Services announcements and the

157
00:06:51,533 --> 00:06:54,213
Speaker 3: data centers. Peter Griffin is a Wellington based science and

158
00:06:54,253 --> 00:06:57,173
Speaker 3: technology journalist with twenty years experience in the New Zealand

159
00:06:57,413 --> 00:07:01,533
Speaker 3: Media covering science, technology and media. And he joins us

160
00:07:01,573 --> 00:07:04,413
Speaker 3: on the line now and he's been all over the story. Peter,

161
00:07:04,613 --> 00:07:05,533
Speaker 3: very good afternoon to you.

162
00:07:06,173 --> 00:07:06,973
Speaker 5: Good afternoon.

163
00:07:07,493 --> 00:07:10,733
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go right back to basics. A. What are

164
00:07:10,773 --> 00:07:13,373
Speaker 2: we talking about here? What is a data center? And

165
00:07:13,373 --> 00:07:15,733
Speaker 2: what are they looking at building aws?

166
00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:20,093
Speaker 5: Well, you know, we've all moved into the digital world

167
00:07:20,133 --> 00:07:22,413
Speaker 5: over the last twenty years, and it used to be

168
00:07:22,493 --> 00:07:25,813
Speaker 5: that a lot of those computer service they sat all

169
00:07:25,853 --> 00:07:29,613
Speaker 5: over the place and businesses all over our major cities.

170
00:07:29,653 --> 00:07:32,573
Speaker 5: And it's become a lot more efficient over the last

171
00:07:32,693 --> 00:07:35,893
Speaker 5: ten to fifteen years to move all of that computer

172
00:07:35,973 --> 00:07:40,933
Speaker 5: equipment into centralized facilities called data centers, where there are

173
00:07:41,013 --> 00:07:43,733
Speaker 5: racks and racks and racks of this equipment. It's more

174
00:07:43,773 --> 00:07:49,013
Speaker 5: efficient to power these facilities, easier to secure them, and

175
00:07:49,093 --> 00:07:51,253
Speaker 5: to have lots of computer capacity in one place. So

176
00:07:51,293 --> 00:07:54,493
Speaker 5: that's not a new thing, but we've sort of missed

177
00:07:54,533 --> 00:07:58,253
Speaker 5: out until recently on the big data center boom that's

178
00:07:58,293 --> 00:08:02,293
Speaker 5: happened over seas, where the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, and

179
00:08:02,373 --> 00:08:06,213
Speaker 5: Google have been spending billions and billions on these data centers.

180
00:08:06,773 --> 00:08:09,933
Speaker 5: About four years ago, Amazon said it was actually going

181
00:08:09,973 --> 00:08:13,093
Speaker 5: to start building these data centers in New Zealand. It's

182
00:08:13,133 --> 00:08:15,893
Speaker 5: been a long process since then. The economy has sort

183
00:08:15,893 --> 00:08:18,773
Speaker 5: of tanked since they made this announcement. But just today

184
00:08:18,813 --> 00:08:22,173
Speaker 5: they announced they're open for business finally for these data

185
00:08:22,213 --> 00:08:25,813
Speaker 5: centers in the Auckland region and the investment they claim

186
00:08:25,853 --> 00:08:28,973
Speaker 5: will be seven and a half billion over fifteen years

187
00:08:29,013 --> 00:08:32,492
Speaker 5: between building the things, staffing them, and the training that

188
00:08:33,013 --> 00:08:36,252
Speaker 5: goes along with encouraging Kiwis to use them.

189
00:08:36,732 --> 00:08:40,733
Speaker 2: So they are actually going to build these centers, and

190
00:08:40,973 --> 00:08:44,573
Speaker 2: there's talk about three availability zones, so they have committed

191
00:08:44,573 --> 00:08:49,333
Speaker 2: to actually building these three physical structures in New Zealand.

192
00:08:50,173 --> 00:08:53,933
Speaker 5: Well it's interesting because they I think at one point

193
00:08:54,012 --> 00:08:57,652
Speaker 5: they set out to physically build at least one data center,

194
00:08:57,693 --> 00:09:00,492
Speaker 5: but they ran into trouble in West Auckland with the

195
00:09:00,492 --> 00:09:04,093
Speaker 5: site that they chose with drainage there, so all works

196
00:09:04,173 --> 00:09:07,293
Speaker 5: stopped on that and it hasn't continued. What they've pivoted

197
00:09:07,333 --> 00:09:12,413
Speaker 5: to is basically using co location, which is putting all

198
00:09:12,413 --> 00:09:15,933
Speaker 5: of your equipment and infrastructure into other people's data centers.

199
00:09:15,973 --> 00:09:19,693
Speaker 5: Now they won't say who those companies are. I've got

200
00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:22,252
Speaker 5: my suspicions because there's only a small number of companies

201
00:09:22,612 --> 00:09:27,213
Speaker 5: in the Auckland region doing it. Aws Amazons say, it

202
00:09:27,252 --> 00:09:29,933
Speaker 5: doesn't really matter who it is. We can tell you

203
00:09:29,973 --> 00:09:32,132
Speaker 5: from a security point of view, but we have three

204
00:09:32,173 --> 00:09:35,813
Speaker 5: facilities that if there's an emergency, like one of them

205
00:09:35,892 --> 00:09:40,012
Speaker 5: is knocked out, there's always going to be backup capacity.

206
00:09:40,333 --> 00:09:43,693
Speaker 5: They will automatically switch over to these other two that

207
00:09:43,892 --> 00:09:46,652
Speaker 5: are within one hundred kilometers of the other one.

208
00:09:47,053 --> 00:09:50,412
Speaker 2: So is that just going to be a temporary situation

209
00:09:50,732 --> 00:09:54,132
Speaker 2: cookooing and on those other centers and they're eventually going

210
00:09:54,173 --> 00:09:57,532
Speaker 2: to continue to build they actually build these things because

211
00:09:57,732 --> 00:10:00,693
Speaker 2: I say that they that drainage issue has been solved

212
00:10:00,693 --> 00:10:03,053
Speaker 2: now or is that just going to be it? Are

213
00:10:03,053 --> 00:10:04,773
Speaker 2: they just are they going to slide them in with

214
00:10:05,132 --> 00:10:06,213
Speaker 2: existing data centers?

215
00:10:06,732 --> 00:10:09,093
Speaker 5: Well for the moment that the saying they've got the

216
00:10:09,093 --> 00:10:12,733
Speaker 5: three data centers, they're co locating at the moment. But look,

217
00:10:12,773 --> 00:10:16,612
Speaker 5: you know this is a very fast growing area, particularly

218
00:10:16,612 --> 00:10:20,093
Speaker 5: with the advent of artificial intelligence, the likes of chat,

219
00:10:20,132 --> 00:10:23,773
Speaker 5: GPT type services. Amazon service up its own services and

220
00:10:23,852 --> 00:10:26,933
Speaker 5: allows any New Zealand business to do that. So the

221
00:10:27,012 --> 00:10:30,813
Speaker 5: growth is pretty much exponential in the data and the

222
00:10:30,892 --> 00:10:33,213
Speaker 5: computing power that you need to run all of this

223
00:10:33,813 --> 00:10:37,213
Speaker 5: artificial intelligence stuff. So there's a good chance they do

224
00:10:37,333 --> 00:10:40,733
Speaker 5: own that patch of land. If they can remediate that proper,

225
00:10:41,132 --> 00:10:45,892
Speaker 5: properly in the coming years, they will have space to

226
00:10:46,173 --> 00:10:49,813
Speaker 5: build another one, and I think we'll see Microsoft, Google

227
00:10:49,852 --> 00:10:51,172
Speaker 5: and others doing that as well.

228
00:10:51,852 --> 00:10:54,852
Speaker 2: So the seven point five billion dollar figure that we've

229
00:10:54,933 --> 00:10:58,213
Speaker 2: been hearing in the one thousand jobs, is that still

230
00:10:58,213 --> 00:11:00,492
Speaker 2: a thing? Is that still going to happen even if

231
00:11:00,533 --> 00:11:03,413
Speaker 2: there isn't just yet any construction.

232
00:11:04,773 --> 00:11:09,573
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, they've committed again today to all of those figures.

233
00:11:09,612 --> 00:11:12,333
Speaker 5: So the thousand staff, they've been pretty clear from the

234
00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:15,853
Speaker 5: start that most of those staff will not be in

235
00:11:15,973 --> 00:11:23,252
Speaker 5: construction or in aws own workforce. The thousands, the thousand

236
00:11:23,973 --> 00:11:28,012
Speaker 5: jobs that are going to be created come downstream, so

237
00:11:28,093 --> 00:11:32,093
Speaker 5: all the startups that it's easier for them to spin

238
00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:35,093
Speaker 5: up a company and use all of these AI tools

239
00:11:35,653 --> 00:11:39,693
Speaker 5: in the cloud in this local data center. They're saying

240
00:11:39,693 --> 00:11:41,653
Speaker 5: that there's going to be more economic development as a

241
00:11:41,693 --> 00:11:44,372
Speaker 5: result of more companies using the cloud. So that's where

242
00:11:44,372 --> 00:11:47,732
Speaker 5: the bulk of the job numbers come from. One hundred

243
00:11:47,773 --> 00:11:51,093
Speaker 5: thousand ki We's trained sounds really impressive. They've already done

244
00:11:51,093 --> 00:11:54,173
Speaker 5: fifty thousand but it's hard to know exactly. You know,

245
00:11:54,173 --> 00:11:56,373
Speaker 5: it's that a free sort of two hour course you

246
00:11:56,372 --> 00:11:56,613
Speaker 5: can do.

247
00:11:56,653 --> 00:12:00,372
Speaker 2: Ann Yeah, you cand of I use cloud storage every day.

248
00:12:00,372 --> 00:12:01,293
Speaker 2: Does that mean I'm trained?

249
00:12:02,492 --> 00:12:05,932
Speaker 5: Well, you probably have to go onto a ws's website

250
00:12:05,973 --> 00:12:09,293
Speaker 5: and do a tutorial or something like that. So there'll

251
00:12:09,293 --> 00:12:11,893
Speaker 5: be a lot of people in that boat. But the

252
00:12:11,933 --> 00:12:13,773
Speaker 5: reality is, you know, we've got a bit of a

253
00:12:13,773 --> 00:12:16,653
Speaker 5: crisis in our education system at the moment. But the

254
00:12:16,693 --> 00:12:20,492
Speaker 5: reality is, if you can go now out of high school,

255
00:12:20,693 --> 00:12:23,493
Speaker 5: you can do an eight week or twelve week course

256
00:12:24,293 --> 00:12:28,372
Speaker 5: and become proficient in the entry level stuff to work

257
00:12:28,813 --> 00:12:32,012
Speaker 5: on cloud platforms, and that potentially is a pathway to

258
00:12:32,093 --> 00:12:35,253
Speaker 5: a seventy or eighty thousand dollars job. So I think

259
00:12:35,252 --> 00:12:37,173
Speaker 5: there is something in this that we get hung up

260
00:12:37,213 --> 00:12:41,253
Speaker 5: about tertiary qualifications and that when actually know these sorts

261
00:12:41,252 --> 00:12:45,693
Speaker 5: of companies, salesforces, a lot of them offering free qualifications

262
00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:48,133
Speaker 5: and certifications that you can get. The flip side of

263
00:12:48,173 --> 00:12:50,173
Speaker 5: that is that you know they want you tied to

264
00:12:50,252 --> 00:12:53,492
Speaker 5: their platform. They want you an expert in Salesforce or

265
00:12:53,653 --> 00:12:57,653
Speaker 5: SAP or Amazon. They don't care about giving you general

266
00:12:58,093 --> 00:13:01,773
Speaker 5: artificial intelligence skills. It's really about building a workforce for

267
00:13:01,813 --> 00:13:02,572
Speaker 5: their platform.

268
00:13:02,693 --> 00:13:05,253
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, there's been a lot of concern about this

269
00:13:05,372 --> 00:13:07,732
Speaker 3: deal in the energy consumption and whether we've got the

270
00:13:07,852 --> 00:13:10,133
Speaker 3: energy of the structure to supply the likes of these

271
00:13:10,213 --> 00:13:12,773
Speaker 3: data centers. Is that a fair criticism and could that

272
00:13:12,852 --> 00:13:16,533
Speaker 3: be why the infrastructure of these data centers has been holded.

273
00:13:18,132 --> 00:13:18,333
Speaker 6: Yeah.

274
00:13:18,573 --> 00:13:22,532
Speaker 5: I don't think it's altered them or led to any delays,

275
00:13:22,573 --> 00:13:25,372
Speaker 5: but it is a valid issue because the government is

276
00:13:25,413 --> 00:13:28,013
Speaker 5: basically when they look at the future energy makeup of

277
00:13:28,213 --> 00:13:31,653
Speaker 5: New Zealand and usage, they're saying by twenty thirty, potentially

278
00:13:31,732 --> 00:13:35,453
Speaker 5: up to seven percent off energy use could be for

279
00:13:35,612 --> 00:13:39,333
Speaker 5: data centers. That shows just how this digital economy is

280
00:13:39,372 --> 00:13:42,693
Speaker 5: growing very quickly. There is a lot of renewable energy

281
00:13:42,732 --> 00:13:46,052
Speaker 5: coming online. And it's sort of notable that AWS has

282
00:13:46,173 --> 00:13:51,252
Speaker 5: done a specific deal with Mercury to use a wind

283
00:13:51,612 --> 00:13:56,333
Speaker 5: energy from the Turretia South Wind Farm, so they've done

284
00:13:56,612 --> 00:14:00,292
Speaker 5: a long term deal to get guaranteed access to energy.

285
00:14:00,892 --> 00:14:03,652
Speaker 5: Contact Energy did a similar deal with Microsoft, a ten

286
00:14:03,773 --> 00:14:06,893
Speaker 5: year deal. So these big tech companies have come in here,

287
00:14:06,973 --> 00:14:12,733
Speaker 5: they've locked up deals with these energy companies, and the

288
00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:15,973
Speaker 5: energy companies are basically saying this is essential to us

289
00:14:16,053 --> 00:14:19,973
Speaker 5: commissioning new wind farms solar farms. If we have big

290
00:14:20,013 --> 00:14:23,613
Speaker 5: anchor tenants in the form of these tech companies, that

291
00:14:23,773 --> 00:14:27,013
Speaker 5: gives us the confidence to raise investment and build more

292
00:14:27,053 --> 00:14:31,093
Speaker 5: of these. The question is we're already very strained in

293
00:14:31,173 --> 00:14:35,453
Speaker 5: our energy capacity. If we have a winter where the

294
00:14:35,573 --> 00:14:37,853
Speaker 5: lake levels are very low, where there is much wind

295
00:14:38,093 --> 00:14:40,813
Speaker 5: and people are using energy in the evenings during the winter,

296
00:14:41,813 --> 00:14:45,253
Speaker 5: is this going to put pressure on our overall grid?

297
00:14:45,373 --> 00:14:47,813
Speaker 5: And potentially that is the case unless we can get

298
00:14:47,893 --> 00:14:51,253
Speaker 5: enough capacity that's going to be coming online in the

299
00:14:51,253 --> 00:14:54,412
Speaker 5: next five to ten years to absorb this new demand

300
00:14:54,453 --> 00:14:55,373
Speaker 5: from data centers.

301
00:14:55,773 --> 00:14:58,013
Speaker 2: Well, surely all hands should be the will to do that.

302
00:14:58,053 --> 00:15:00,653
Speaker 2: We should be a nation within all our assets of

303
00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:05,013
Speaker 2: the hydropower, etc. That we can build further support to

304
00:15:05,053 --> 00:15:07,573
Speaker 2: the grid such that huge companies can come in here.

305
00:15:07,653 --> 00:15:10,133
Speaker 2: And if we don't do that, then we're kind of

306
00:15:10,173 --> 00:15:13,773
Speaker 2: stuck in a cycle of nothing big ever happening. When

307
00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:17,893
Speaker 2: it comes to the data, Peter, is it just New

308
00:15:17,973 --> 00:15:20,733
Speaker 2: Zealand data that they're looking at storing here or is

309
00:15:20,773 --> 00:15:23,253
Speaker 2: it data from all around the world. And if that's

310
00:15:23,293 --> 00:15:26,853
Speaker 2: the case, what is our capacity for bringing data in

311
00:15:26,893 --> 00:15:27,733
Speaker 2: and out of the country.

312
00:15:28,853 --> 00:15:29,093
Speaker 7: Yeah.

313
00:15:29,173 --> 00:15:34,733
Speaker 5: Look, I don't think the actual physical pipes that transfer

314
00:15:34,893 --> 00:15:37,133
Speaker 5: data in and out of the country is an issue.

315
00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:40,493
Speaker 5: There's lots of capacity there. You've got new players that

316
00:15:40,813 --> 00:15:44,133
Speaker 5: have plans for even more subse cable, so I don't

317
00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:46,973
Speaker 5: think that's an issue. If you're a New Zealand company.

318
00:15:47,573 --> 00:15:51,532
Speaker 5: One of the big pitches here is not only are

319
00:15:51,533 --> 00:15:53,693
Speaker 5: you closer to a data center, so if you're doing

320
00:15:53,853 --> 00:15:57,773
Speaker 5: a real time service like a chatbot, you know the

321
00:15:58,493 --> 00:16:01,373
Speaker 5: delay or lag in getting an answer back will be

322
00:16:01,373 --> 00:16:03,773
Speaker 5: lower because it's just going to Auckland for it rather

323
00:16:03,813 --> 00:16:08,453
Speaker 5: than Silicon Valley or Australia. So that's a pitch. But

324
00:16:08,533 --> 00:16:11,333
Speaker 5: also you can keep all of your data within New

325
00:16:11,413 --> 00:16:15,093
Speaker 5: Zealand's borders. So a lot of companies and government departments

326
00:16:15,493 --> 00:16:18,093
Speaker 5: are a bit leary about sending a lot of sensitive

327
00:16:18,173 --> 00:16:23,813
Speaker 5: data overseas to other jurisdictions. So AWS is saying we

328
00:16:23,893 --> 00:16:26,213
Speaker 5: can guarantee all the data if you want it to

329
00:16:26,253 --> 00:16:29,653
Speaker 5: stay within New Zealand, we can guarantee that you will

330
00:16:29,693 --> 00:16:29,933
Speaker 5: do that.

331
00:16:30,613 --> 00:16:33,373
Speaker 2: Why do you think there's the everyone's lining up to

332
00:16:33,373 --> 00:16:36,533
Speaker 2: be negative about this thing across the media. There's there's

333
00:16:36,613 --> 00:16:39,693
Speaker 2: a lot of stones being thrown at the thing. Do

334
00:16:39,693 --> 00:16:41,653
Speaker 2: you think it's a positive thing and what do you

335
00:16:41,693 --> 00:16:43,013
Speaker 2: think people are being negative about it?

336
00:16:43,733 --> 00:16:47,733
Speaker 5: I think overall, you know, we're in an environment where

337
00:16:48,293 --> 00:16:50,733
Speaker 5: and we've just seen discussion of this with the you know,

338
00:16:50,773 --> 00:16:54,253
Speaker 5: the five million dollar home threshold that Winston Teeters has

339
00:16:56,253 --> 00:16:59,893
Speaker 5: struck a deal around, it's really difficult to get companies

340
00:17:00,053 --> 00:17:03,333
Speaker 5: and high net worth individuals to invest in New Zealand.

341
00:17:03,373 --> 00:17:09,013
Speaker 5: We're a developed country, but we just don't fit investment

342
00:17:09,013 --> 00:17:11,292
Speaker 5: profile a lot of them. So anything where we're seeing

343
00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:15,333
Speaker 5: literally billions of dollars come in an investment, that is

344
00:17:15,453 --> 00:17:18,053
Speaker 5: a really good thing. But the worm has turned a

345
00:17:18,053 --> 00:17:20,573
Speaker 5: little bit on big tech when it comes to these

346
00:17:20,933 --> 00:17:24,533
Speaker 5: data centers because it really is suring up it's sort

347
00:17:24,573 --> 00:17:31,413
Speaker 5: of cozy duopoly or oligopoly that these companies have over

348
00:17:31,453 --> 00:17:34,413
Speaker 5: our data and increasingly over our energy supply as well.

349
00:17:34,413 --> 00:17:36,893
Speaker 5: And a lot of people are like, where is the sovereignty?

350
00:17:37,373 --> 00:17:39,413
Speaker 5: How do we steer our own destiny rather than just

351
00:17:39,453 --> 00:17:42,333
Speaker 5: give all of our valuable data to these three or

352
00:17:42,333 --> 00:17:43,653
Speaker 5: four big American companies.

353
00:17:43,893 --> 00:17:47,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, interesting. So just to clarify, this will primarily

354
00:17:47,613 --> 00:17:51,532
Speaker 2: be New Zealand data as opposed to you know, just

355
00:17:53,013 --> 00:17:58,573
Speaker 2: increasing capacity for Amazon's data storage around the world and usage.

356
00:17:59,013 --> 00:18:01,613
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's not efficient for them to be sending

357
00:18:01,773 --> 00:18:04,773
Speaker 5: you loads of data from other parts of the world here.

358
00:18:04,813 --> 00:18:08,533
Speaker 5: This will be primarily for New Zealand users, and that's

359
00:18:08,573 --> 00:18:10,573
Speaker 5: going to be the big question. You know, Amazon did

360
00:18:10,613 --> 00:18:13,613
Speaker 5: four hundred and twenty odd million in revenue in New

361
00:18:13,653 --> 00:18:17,053
Speaker 5: Zealand last year. Is there actually, given the sluggish economy,

362
00:18:17,173 --> 00:18:19,453
Speaker 5: enough growth for them to make a decent return on

363
00:18:19,493 --> 00:18:21,293
Speaker 5: this in the next few years. That's going to be

364
00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:21,733
Speaker 5: the question.

365
00:18:21,973 --> 00:18:24,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter, really good to get your analysis and thoughts.

366
00:18:24,853 --> 00:18:26,493
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us.

367
00:18:26,893 --> 00:18:27,573
Speaker 5: Thanks very much.

368
00:18:27,693 --> 00:18:31,453
Speaker 3: That is Peter Griffin, tech tech commentator and some interesting

369
00:18:31,493 --> 00:18:32,933
Speaker 3: thoughts there. So ken you hear from you. Oh eight

370
00:18:33,053 --> 00:18:34,213
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty.

371
00:18:34,093 --> 00:18:36,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, bloody interesting. So what do you think about this

372
00:18:36,373 --> 00:18:40,253
Speaker 2: whole AWS data center situation in the seven four point

373
00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:41,533
Speaker 2: five billion dollar investment?

374
00:18:41,933 --> 00:18:44,773
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you excited or do you have concerns? Let

375
00:18:44,853 --> 00:18:46,453
Speaker 3: us know your thoughts. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

376
00:18:46,533 --> 00:18:48,453
Speaker 3: eighty is a number to call. Twenty six past.

377
00:18:48,253 --> 00:18:52,493
Speaker 1: One, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic

378
00:18:52,573 --> 00:18:53,413
Speaker 1: asking breakfast.

379
00:18:53,493 --> 00:18:55,293
Speaker 8: So we got there at last the deal's been struck.

380
00:18:55,293 --> 00:18:57,253
Speaker 8: For the Golden visa holders, they can buy or build

381
00:18:57,253 --> 00:18:59,293
Speaker 8: a house to the value of five million dollars plus

382
00:18:59,293 --> 00:19:00,333
Speaker 8: the crystal actions back with.

383
00:19:00,573 --> 00:19:01,333
Speaker 9: I mean the cool things.

384
00:19:01,373 --> 00:19:03,693
Speaker 10: We've had three hundred applicants applying for less active for

385
00:19:03,733 --> 00:19:04,293
Speaker 10: vesta visa.

386
00:19:04,413 --> 00:19:07,093
Speaker 9: That's almost two billion dollars. We didn't have an economy

387
00:19:07,093 --> 00:19:07,693
Speaker 9: on April one.

388
00:19:07,733 --> 00:19:08,333
Speaker 11: That's now here.

389
00:19:08,453 --> 00:19:10,893
Speaker 8: Winston Peter's New Zealand First Leader is with us. Did

390
00:19:10,933 --> 00:19:13,253
Speaker 8: you have to get dragged kicking and screaming to this

391
00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:14,413
Speaker 8: particular conclusion.

392
00:19:15,133 --> 00:19:17,413
Speaker 10: My ANXI was about those who have said in the

393
00:19:17,493 --> 00:19:19,573
Speaker 10: mainstream media they can't get their head around it. The

394
00:19:19,653 --> 00:19:22,413
Speaker 10: business not changed through the foreign buyers man, it's a

395
00:19:22,693 --> 00:19:25,013
Speaker 10: change to the investment rules to attract people to come

396
00:19:25,013 --> 00:19:27,293
Speaker 10: to this country for money that we definately need.

397
00:19:27,493 --> 00:19:30,253
Speaker 8: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

398
00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:31,093
Speaker 8: Maylee's Real.

399
00:19:31,053 --> 00:19:34,013
Speaker 2: Estate News Talk z B News Talks.

400
00:19:34,013 --> 00:19:34,253
Speaker 12: There B.

401
00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:36,613
Speaker 3: Amazon Web Services, as we know, has committed to New

402
00:19:36,693 --> 00:19:39,133
Speaker 3: Zealand seven point five billion dollars worth of investment one

403
00:19:39,173 --> 00:19:41,893
Speaker 3: thousand jobs. They say, do we need to do whatever

404
00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:45,533
Speaker 3: is necessary to attract these high wealth companies and individuals

405
00:19:45,573 --> 00:19:48,733
Speaker 3: along with them with infrastructure investment, energy or do you

406
00:19:48,853 --> 00:19:51,973
Speaker 3: have some concerns with the likes of Amazon coming into

407
00:19:51,973 --> 00:19:53,733
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Love to your thoughts. So eight hundred and

408
00:19:53,733 --> 00:19:56,373
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty as the number to call. He pertects

409
00:19:56,413 --> 00:19:57,973
Speaker 3: coming through on nine two ninety two.

410
00:19:58,493 --> 00:20:01,133
Speaker 2: Hi guys re Data centers in Westalk were not only

411
00:20:01,253 --> 00:20:03,853
Speaker 2: is high power demand, but what about the massive demand

412
00:20:03,933 --> 00:20:06,413
Speaker 2: for water for cooling when we already have concerns for

413
00:20:06,453 --> 00:20:09,933
Speaker 2: Auckland's dam supply and for the white cattle. Yeah, that's true.

414
00:20:10,173 --> 00:20:12,453
Speaker 2: They need a lot of calling. Those things run hot.

415
00:20:12,573 --> 00:20:12,773
Speaker 11: Yeah.

416
00:20:12,853 --> 00:20:15,093
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got a little animation company and we

417
00:20:15,173 --> 00:20:18,613
Speaker 2: have our render blades, and boy did they run hot.

418
00:20:18,653 --> 00:20:20,013
Speaker 2: And we're only looking five of those.

419
00:20:20,133 --> 00:20:23,053
Speaker 3: Do you have to call those just out of interest? Yeah, yep, yep.

420
00:20:23,173 --> 00:20:24,773
Speaker 3: So you just got to keep them well ventilated.

421
00:20:25,253 --> 00:20:26,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's huge calling on them.

422
00:20:26,413 --> 00:20:28,133
Speaker 3: It's crazy technology.

423
00:20:27,613 --> 00:20:29,853
Speaker 2: That they run very very hot.

424
00:20:30,013 --> 00:20:34,973
Speaker 3: Yeah. And this one here, presumably these operations run twenty

425
00:20:34,973 --> 00:20:36,773
Speaker 3: four hours a day. Wind and solar power are not

426
00:20:36,853 --> 00:20:38,893
Speaker 3: going to provide anything like the power they need. It

427
00:20:38,933 --> 00:20:42,933
Speaker 3: sounds like they are to be another aluminum plant jack

428
00:20:43,013 --> 00:20:45,453
Speaker 3: up where they get guaranteed supply at very low prices

429
00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:46,213
Speaker 3: and we pay for it.

430
00:20:46,933 --> 00:20:50,973
Speaker 2: The sticks is said more right wing bollocks. We don't

431
00:20:51,013 --> 00:20:54,693
Speaker 2: want that asshole Jeff Bezos's money. Is there no one

432
00:20:54,773 --> 00:20:57,933
Speaker 2: here in New Zealand that can set up a data center? Well,

433
00:20:57,973 --> 00:21:00,613
Speaker 2: I mean there's no one that's offering of seven point

434
00:21:00,613 --> 00:21:03,093
Speaker 2: five billion dollars in there? Is there anyone that's positive

435
00:21:03,093 --> 00:21:05,413
Speaker 2: about this? God damn it? And the text machine?

436
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:07,813
Speaker 3: Yep, here we go, Matt and Tyler has to be

437
00:21:07,813 --> 00:21:10,613
Speaker 3: a good things. My book for there ago well done.

438
00:21:10,973 --> 00:21:14,093
Speaker 2: We desperately need investment in this country, so a good start.

439
00:21:14,253 --> 00:21:17,333
Speaker 2: There'll be plenty of naysayers yep, against it, large basically

440
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,973
Speaker 2: on hatred of big companies. Yeah, that last one. I mean,

441
00:21:19,973 --> 00:21:23,173
Speaker 2: what we don't want that ahole Jeff Bezos's money?

442
00:21:23,293 --> 00:21:24,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we do. He's got a lot of

443
00:21:24,853 --> 00:21:27,292
Speaker 3: it and we want it absolutely. But if you if

444
00:21:27,293 --> 00:21:29,813
Speaker 3: you've got concerns about this, generally keen to hear from

445
00:21:29,813 --> 00:21:31,573
Speaker 3: you on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What

446
00:21:31,733 --> 00:21:34,093
Speaker 3: is the big concerns about the likes of Amazon? Is

447
00:21:34,093 --> 00:21:37,093
Speaker 3: it because you think it's a big, bad silicon company

448
00:21:37,133 --> 00:21:39,573
Speaker 3: that is doing bad things around the world. I don't

449
00:21:39,613 --> 00:21:41,573
Speaker 3: quite understand that. Like I know, they get a lot

450
00:21:41,613 --> 00:21:43,532
Speaker 3: of stick, but they've got a lot of money. And

451
00:21:43,573 --> 00:21:45,813
Speaker 3: if we can clip the ticket on some of that

452
00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:48,613
Speaker 3: money that these guys are pumping in, and that's good

453
00:21:48,613 --> 00:21:49,933
Speaker 3: for our economy.

454
00:21:49,493 --> 00:21:51,773
Speaker 2: And everything that we're pointing out towards the power with

455
00:21:52,093 --> 00:21:55,373
Speaker 2: the problem with power in our country, we need to

456
00:21:55,373 --> 00:21:58,253
Speaker 2: be sorting that out. Yeah. So if we think that

457
00:21:58,333 --> 00:22:00,653
Speaker 2: we need our economy to grow, and I think everyone does,

458
00:22:00,853 --> 00:22:03,213
Speaker 2: or most people, and there's some people that don't, but

459
00:22:03,453 --> 00:22:06,453
Speaker 2: for it to grow, we need to sort out the

460
00:22:06,453 --> 00:22:08,293
Speaker 2: amount of energy we have in the country. Whatever way

461
00:22:08,413 --> 00:22:10,893
Speaker 2: we do that, that needs to be sorted out because

462
00:22:11,213 --> 00:22:15,293
Speaker 2: every piece of economic growth needs more energy. We need electricity,

463
00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:19,893
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Please pronounce data, gentlemen. I got laughed

464
00:22:19,893 --> 00:22:21,773
Speaker 2: at when I lived in London and was building one.

465
00:22:22,413 --> 00:22:24,973
Speaker 2: So change by pronunciation. Pronunciation.

466
00:22:25,093 --> 00:22:32,573
Speaker 3: It is data data, data, data, data, the data data deder. Okay,

467
00:22:32,653 --> 00:22:33,773
Speaker 3: let's stick with data, the.

468
00:22:33,813 --> 00:22:36,413
Speaker 2: Data, the data centeria data.

469
00:22:36,573 --> 00:22:39,573
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for that. Teach data data. Oh

470
00:22:39,573 --> 00:22:42,053
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty is the number to call.

471
00:22:42,093 --> 00:22:43,093
Speaker 2: It's quite posh, isn't it.

472
00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:48,532
Speaker 3: The data data Very English? It is twenty seven to two.

473
00:22:49,293 --> 00:22:52,773
Speaker 13: You talk say headlines with blue bubble taxis that's no

474
00:22:52,893 --> 00:22:56,773
Speaker 13: trouble with a blue bubble. Nurses say patience safety has

475
00:22:56,853 --> 00:23:00,253
Speaker 13: been compromised by a lack of staffing. The issue has

476
00:23:00,293 --> 00:23:04,613
Speaker 13: caused about thirty six thousand nurses, midwives and healthcare assistants

477
00:23:04,693 --> 00:23:08,053
Speaker 13: to walk off the job today, with another strike planned

478
00:23:08,093 --> 00:23:11,973
Speaker 13: for Thursday. Northland police have arrested seven people on a

479
00:23:12,053 --> 00:23:15,453
Speaker 13: number of charges and recovered about one hundred thousand dollars

480
00:23:15,453 --> 00:23:19,973
Speaker 13: worth of stolen vehicles during a two week operation. Sixteen

481
00:23:20,053 --> 00:23:23,812
Speaker 13: search warrants were executed in the region targeting drug supply,

482
00:23:23,933 --> 00:23:28,773
Speaker 13: gang members and associates. Winston Peters believes ninety nine percent

483
00:23:28,893 --> 00:23:32,253
Speaker 13: of the property market is still denied to foreign buyers

484
00:23:32,653 --> 00:23:36,373
Speaker 13: and says a foreign buyers ban still stands. New rules

485
00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:39,293
Speaker 13: men active in Vesta plus visa holders can now buy

486
00:23:39,453 --> 00:23:42,213
Speaker 13: or build one home in New Zealand if it's worth

487
00:23:42,253 --> 00:23:45,693
Speaker 13: at least five million dollars and after more than nine

488
00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:50,493
Speaker 13: decades in Auckland's Queen's Arcade, Marbeck's record retailer all sharp

489
00:23:50,573 --> 00:23:55,173
Speaker 13: next month moving to online trade, being AI fined fifty

490
00:23:55,253 --> 00:23:58,893
Speaker 13: thousand dollars over NZX breaches. Find out more at NZ

491
00:23:59,053 --> 00:24:02,293
Speaker 13: Herald premium. Now back to Matt Heith and Tyler Adams.

492
00:24:02,333 --> 00:24:04,933
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. So Amazon Web Services they

493
00:24:04,973 --> 00:24:08,133
Speaker 3: have committed to New Zealand are the hypers seven point

494
00:24:08,173 --> 00:24:11,253
Speaker 3: four billion dollars worth of an investment, one thousand jobs.

495
00:24:11,613 --> 00:24:14,133
Speaker 3: So do we actually need to do whatever is necessary

496
00:24:14,173 --> 00:24:16,532
Speaker 3: to get these guys up and running in the country.

497
00:24:16,533 --> 00:24:19,133
Speaker 3: It appears that work has stopped for the time being

498
00:24:19,173 --> 00:24:21,653
Speaker 3: on the data center, the site they originally purchased, and

499
00:24:21,653 --> 00:24:24,733
Speaker 3: there's talk about maybe moving into a sharing space with

500
00:24:24,813 --> 00:24:27,733
Speaker 3: other data centers, but no doubt about it. They've been

501
00:24:27,773 --> 00:24:31,973
Speaker 3: in the country today launching the new region WIDEAWS software

502
00:24:31,973 --> 00:24:34,693
Speaker 3: for businesses. But they have said they are and remain

503
00:24:34,733 --> 00:24:35,933
Speaker 3: committed to this country.

504
00:24:36,173 --> 00:24:38,532
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, tech commentator Peter Griffiths says, we need to

505
00:24:38,533 --> 00:24:45,293
Speaker 2: do more to attract this investment. Boys. This data data,

506
00:24:45,413 --> 00:24:48,173
Speaker 2: this data bank requires heaps of power. So could this

507
00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:50,693
Speaker 2: mean the building of a nuclear power plant? Well, we've

508
00:24:50,733 --> 00:24:52,653
Speaker 2: seen this on the show before. You know, if you

509
00:24:52,693 --> 00:24:55,333
Speaker 2: want to have economic growth, then you need to have

510
00:24:55,413 --> 00:24:58,133
Speaker 2: more power. Yeah, and we don't seem to have enough

511
00:24:58,133 --> 00:24:59,853
Speaker 2: power at the moment, so it's time.

512
00:25:00,133 --> 00:25:02,973
Speaker 3: Dan Jones was pretty fizzing on the idea of nuclear power.

513
00:25:03,093 --> 00:25:04,653
Speaker 2: Let's get those little modular ones.

514
00:25:04,453 --> 00:25:06,813
Speaker 3: Going, yes, go exactly. There's a few teeth coming through

515
00:25:06,853 --> 00:25:09,173
Speaker 3: about data or data.

516
00:25:09,293 --> 00:25:12,013
Speaker 2: Okay, we can't spend the rest of this hour talking

517
00:25:12,053 --> 00:25:13,733
Speaker 2: about it and going back and before I just had

518
00:25:13,733 --> 00:25:15,933
Speaker 2: to Okay, what's your natural way of saying it, because

519
00:25:16,333 --> 00:25:17,653
Speaker 2: we're not into compelled speech here.

520
00:25:17,693 --> 00:25:17,853
Speaker 12: Yeah.

521
00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:21,093
Speaker 2: Data, data, data, data, Yeah, data data.

522
00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:23,773
Speaker 3: And there was someone mentioned aluminum before I'm going to

523
00:25:23,813 --> 00:25:25,812
Speaker 3: sit with aluminum. I kind of like it rolls off

524
00:25:25,813 --> 00:25:27,333
Speaker 3: the tongue of the Americans saying, sure, I.

525
00:25:27,373 --> 00:25:29,693
Speaker 2: Can't be the only one waiting for Peter Griffin's family

526
00:25:29,693 --> 00:25:32,373
Speaker 2: guy laugh. Yeah, Yeah, we let that go through to

527
00:25:32,373 --> 00:25:32,733
Speaker 2: the keeper.

528
00:25:32,813 --> 00:25:35,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

529
00:25:35,893 --> 00:25:36,813
Speaker 3: the number to call.

530
00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:39,693
Speaker 2: I can't believe, says this text that there are so

531
00:25:39,733 --> 00:25:42,893
Speaker 2: many negative messages regarding the positive injection of funds into

532
00:25:42,933 --> 00:25:45,693
Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy. Crawl out from the rock you

533
00:25:45,813 --> 00:25:48,253
Speaker 2: negative people are hiding under and look at the state

534
00:25:48,293 --> 00:25:51,253
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand economy and realize that we all

535
00:25:51,373 --> 00:25:51,893
Speaker 2: need this.

536
00:25:52,213 --> 00:25:55,813
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we've got the calls coming through now, but

537
00:25:55,853 --> 00:25:57,893
Speaker 3: we've got to play some messages. Oh eight hundred eighty

538
00:25:58,013 --> 00:26:01,253
Speaker 3: ten eighty, and there's a few messages of support and

539
00:26:01,293 --> 00:26:03,293
Speaker 3: some people who work in the industry coming through as well,

540
00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:05,693
Speaker 3: so we'll get to some of those very shortly. It

541
00:26:05,773 --> 00:26:07,373
Speaker 3: is twenty two to two.

542
00:26:07,613 --> 00:26:11,733
Speaker 2: Some people really take bezos personally. I mean, it's just

543
00:26:12,213 --> 00:26:14,253
Speaker 2: have you meet the guy off. You're spending too much

544
00:26:14,293 --> 00:26:15,493
Speaker 2: time on the internet.

545
00:26:16,173 --> 00:26:19,453
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

546
00:26:19,493 --> 00:26:23,253
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

547
00:26:23,493 --> 00:26:24,013
Speaker 1: used talks.

548
00:26:24,013 --> 00:26:26,533
Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon. How do you feel about Amazon

549
00:26:26,613 --> 00:26:29,813
Speaker 3: Web Services committing to New Zealand's You think we need

550
00:26:29,853 --> 00:26:32,613
Speaker 3: to do whatever we can to get these guys sitting

551
00:26:32,693 --> 00:26:34,293
Speaker 3: up shop here or do you have concerns?

552
00:26:34,533 --> 00:26:36,693
Speaker 2: Nathan says, we are a tiny white bait and a

553
00:26:36,693 --> 00:26:39,053
Speaker 2: massive ocean. We need all the money and investment we

554
00:26:39,093 --> 00:26:41,613
Speaker 2: can get. Too much tall poppy syndrome holding us back.

555
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,613
Speaker 2: Bring it on, Nathan, It's kind of like the topic

556
00:26:43,613 --> 00:26:45,493
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about in the next hour around

557
00:26:45,533 --> 00:26:50,093
Speaker 2: the Polish CEO. People just sometimes just hate people simply

558
00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:53,333
Speaker 2: because they're successful. Yeah, absolutely, John, welcome to the show.

559
00:26:54,773 --> 00:26:58,013
Speaker 14: Yeah, good afternoon. I just wanted to talk about foreign

560
00:26:58,093 --> 00:27:02,053
Speaker 14: investment generally, and that comment that New Zealand needs all

561
00:27:02,093 --> 00:27:05,133
Speaker 14: these investment that can get hold of because of our

562
00:27:05,253 --> 00:27:09,333
Speaker 14: savings deficiency. Can I just point out something very fundamental

563
00:27:09,373 --> 00:27:12,173
Speaker 14: in this context, and that is this that a nation

564
00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:17,293
Speaker 14: which is genuinely determined on its own economic betterment will

565
00:27:17,333 --> 00:27:22,373
Speaker 14: have absolutely no problem in accumulating, generating and accumulating all

566
00:27:22,413 --> 00:27:26,173
Speaker 14: the investment capital that requires. But there is a condition,

567
00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:29,773
Speaker 14: as I say, that's only when a nation is genuinely

568
00:27:29,813 --> 00:27:33,573
Speaker 14: determined on its own economic betterment. And this has been

569
00:27:33,613 --> 00:27:37,613
Speaker 14: the experience in nation after nation. The idea that foreigners

570
00:27:37,653 --> 00:27:41,093
Speaker 14: had gained to come into this country with the investment capital.

571
00:27:43,253 --> 00:27:45,133
Speaker 2: Oh no, has been shut down.

572
00:27:45,413 --> 00:27:47,813
Speaker 14: Is absolutely naive, to say the least.

573
00:27:47,933 --> 00:27:50,693
Speaker 2: Can you say that, Sorry, John, you just dropped out

574
00:27:50,733 --> 00:27:52,693
Speaker 2: for about three seconds, So can you say that last

575
00:27:52,693 --> 00:27:55,053
Speaker 2: sentence again that they ended a naive to say the.

576
00:27:55,093 --> 00:27:59,933
Speaker 14: Least, The idea that foreign investors are going to come

577
00:27:59,933 --> 00:28:04,413
Speaker 14: in here and we're going to live happily, you know,

578
00:28:05,013 --> 00:28:09,532
Speaker 14: on their capital, is something ridiculous. The task for New

579
00:28:09,613 --> 00:28:14,773
Speaker 14: Zealanders we have to develop our own industries now. For example,

580
00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:18,973
Speaker 14: Bill Birch on the immigration thing, he said done an

581
00:28:19,013 --> 00:28:23,333
Speaker 14: annual intake of migrants is essential for New Zealand's economic development,

582
00:28:23,893 --> 00:28:26,573
Speaker 14: which is a bit like saying an annual intaker spring

583
00:28:26,613 --> 00:28:30,413
Speaker 14: box lines and tumors is essential for the development of

584
00:28:30,453 --> 00:28:36,813
Speaker 14: Fuzilian rugby. There are cases where foreign investment is beneficial,

585
00:28:38,053 --> 00:28:42,253
Speaker 14: but in most cases it's not the classic example I

586
00:28:42,333 --> 00:28:46,293
Speaker 14: set out. I think this last year, Ike the Great,

587
00:28:46,733 --> 00:28:50,373
Speaker 14: the big Spanish congloberate, they set up a massive part

588
00:28:50,573 --> 00:28:54,293
Speaker 14: in South Carolina town called Dan Dadbol, which is a

589
00:28:54,413 --> 00:28:58,093
Speaker 14: very depressed area of the effect for part of the country,

590
00:28:58,733 --> 00:29:01,853
Speaker 14: and all the civic leaders were delighted with the massive

591
00:29:01,893 --> 00:29:04,893
Speaker 14: investment IQ are going to make and the workers as

592
00:29:04,893 --> 00:29:08,973
Speaker 14: well because I could provide jobs and employment opportunities and

593
00:29:09,093 --> 00:29:11,853
Speaker 14: all the rest. But they found it didn't work out

594
00:29:11,893 --> 00:29:15,173
Speaker 14: that way. In fact, their investment made major headlines back

595
00:29:15,213 --> 00:29:19,053
Speaker 14: in Sweden because they are workers were only paid about

596
00:29:19,053 --> 00:29:22,253
Speaker 14: a third of what their workers were back in Sweden

597
00:29:22,573 --> 00:29:27,813
Speaker 14: because the companies were only paying local wages and the

598
00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:30,453
Speaker 14: plant ran all sorts of labor problems and all the

599
00:29:30,493 --> 00:29:34,213
Speaker 14: rest of it. So this is what happens generally because

600
00:29:34,413 --> 00:29:39,253
Speaker 14: when ambassors move and they're only paid the local wages,

601
00:29:39,413 --> 00:29:41,213
Speaker 14: obviously for profit maximization.

602
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,533
Speaker 3: But what about what about Ireland? John, Ireland, as we know,

603
00:29:44,653 --> 00:29:47,613
Speaker 3: has had a phenomenal economic turnaround, and part of that

604
00:29:47,813 --> 00:29:49,933
Speaker 3: was when they lowered their corporate tax rate to try

605
00:29:50,053 --> 00:29:52,973
Speaker 3: and attract these multinational companies. And now you've got the

606
00:29:53,053 --> 00:29:56,293
Speaker 3: likes of Apple, Google, Facebook, Pfizer and Intel set up

607
00:29:56,293 --> 00:29:59,453
Speaker 3: in Ireland and they are clipping that ticket. So they

608
00:29:59,493 --> 00:30:03,253
Speaker 3: have benefited as a nation by by inviting some of

609
00:30:03,253 --> 00:30:07,333
Speaker 3: those very wealthy, high net companies into operate and do

610
00:30:07,413 --> 00:30:07,933
Speaker 3: business there.

611
00:30:09,173 --> 00:30:11,413
Speaker 14: On the face of it, yes, but it's a risky

612
00:30:11,453 --> 00:30:17,213
Speaker 14: investment because multinationals depend a large part on labor costs,

613
00:30:17,613 --> 00:30:22,173
Speaker 14: and they can always relocate to other countries which have

614
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:26,253
Speaker 14: lower wages and more grants and incentives.

615
00:30:26,373 --> 00:30:28,133
Speaker 2: But I guess they can Apple with any product cut

616
00:30:28,133 --> 00:30:30,773
Speaker 2: it like any product can change. So what are you describing?

617
00:30:30,813 --> 00:30:32,813
Speaker 2: Do you think the New Zealand was the economy? Do

618
00:30:32,853 --> 00:30:35,453
Speaker 2: you prefer the New Zealand economy sort of pre nineteen

619
00:30:35,493 --> 00:30:40,293
Speaker 2: eighty four, that sort of protectionist economy that Muldoon was running.

620
00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:45,533
Speaker 14: Well, I've conducted and formal survey, not the most scientific,

621
00:30:45,573 --> 00:30:49,333
Speaker 14: but I've spoken to many, many people, mostly in the

622
00:30:49,373 --> 00:30:51,813
Speaker 14: older age group, as to whether they think the New

623
00:30:51,893 --> 00:30:54,573
Speaker 14: z Element today is a better country than what it

624
00:30:54,693 --> 00:30:59,693
Speaker 14: was before nineteen eighty four. Most of our sixty seventy people,

625
00:31:00,133 --> 00:31:03,693
Speaker 14: mostly older truck drivers with whom come into contact, not

626
00:31:03,893 --> 00:31:06,973
Speaker 14: one person has said, yes, New Zealand's a better country

627
00:31:06,973 --> 00:31:12,133
Speaker 14: today nineteen eighty four. People have got to understand that

628
00:31:12,173 --> 00:31:16,733
Speaker 14: there's been no national wealth creation. And where these economists

629
00:31:16,773 --> 00:31:19,413
Speaker 14: and the commentary get it all wrong. I don't know

630
00:31:19,453 --> 00:31:22,813
Speaker 14: why it is, but they simply cannot latch onto the

631
00:31:22,853 --> 00:31:26,893
Speaker 14: fact that the productive sectors of those tiny nations with

632
00:31:27,013 --> 00:31:31,173
Speaker 14: which we should compare ourselves, that's something enormous. All you've

633
00:31:31,213 --> 00:31:33,373
Speaker 14: got to do is when you drive around the roads,

634
00:31:33,453 --> 00:31:36,773
Speaker 14: you'll see trucks, for example, with big containers on the back,

635
00:31:37,173 --> 00:31:40,173
Speaker 14: and mersk, the big Danish multi natural.

636
00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:43,733
Speaker 2: I guess the problem is I guess the problem is John,

637
00:31:43,973 --> 00:31:46,853
Speaker 2: that New Zealand had a fantastic economy up to that

638
00:31:46,893 --> 00:31:50,173
Speaker 2: point because the UK was buying all our meat and

639
00:31:50,213 --> 00:31:52,093
Speaker 2: our products. It was very easy to sell all our

640
00:31:52,133 --> 00:31:55,613
Speaker 2: will and our meat, et cetera. And then they joined

641
00:31:55,653 --> 00:31:57,653
Speaker 2: the EU and suddenly we're in a position. We are

642
00:31:57,653 --> 00:32:00,613
Speaker 2: our entire economy that was doing very well up until

643
00:32:00,613 --> 00:32:04,053
Speaker 2: that point, was completely the rug was pulled out for

644
00:32:04,133 --> 00:32:06,613
Speaker 2: underneath it. So you know that that government came in,

645
00:32:06,653 --> 00:32:08,893
Speaker 2: the long, long, longing covement, came in and looked at

646
00:32:08,933 --> 00:32:10,533
Speaker 2: the box and went, we have to do something. And

647
00:32:10,573 --> 00:32:12,653
Speaker 2: that has been the path we've been on ever since.

648
00:32:12,653 --> 00:32:15,533
Speaker 2: So it wasn't so much that it was yes, you

649
00:32:15,653 --> 00:32:17,013
Speaker 2: were forced to change.

650
00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:18,013
Speaker 9: Yep.

651
00:32:19,173 --> 00:32:23,453
Speaker 14: We opted for the neoliberal path, okay, and the neoliberal

652
00:32:24,093 --> 00:32:29,133
Speaker 14: economic ideology has been completely totally and utterly discredited.

653
00:32:29,493 --> 00:32:30,173
Speaker 2: Arn there you go.

654
00:32:30,253 --> 00:32:32,453
Speaker 3: Thank you, John, Yeah, passionate and thank you very much

655
00:32:32,453 --> 00:32:34,613
Speaker 3: for your thoughts on that one oh eight hundred eighty

656
00:32:34,733 --> 00:32:38,413
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Let's get it refocused on Amazon coming to

657
00:32:38,453 --> 00:32:42,333
Speaker 3: the country. John Headers thoughts there about multinational corporations coming

658
00:32:42,333 --> 00:32:44,693
Speaker 3: into this country. Do you have concerns or do we

659
00:32:44,813 --> 00:32:47,373
Speaker 3: need to be attracting these guys? Isn't good for New Zealand.

660
00:32:47,413 --> 00:32:49,013
Speaker 2: Appreciate your thoughts, John, but we've got to go to

661
00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:53,693
Speaker 2: a commercial break. Many of these businesses will be overseas company.

662
00:32:53,733 --> 00:32:56,293
Speaker 3: He's my wages twelve to two.

663
00:32:56,773 --> 00:33:00,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

664
00:33:00,053 --> 00:33:02,973
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams

665
00:33:03,013 --> 00:33:04,773
Speaker 1: Afternoons News TALKSB.

666
00:33:05,373 --> 00:33:08,333
Speaker 3: News TALKSB. We are talking about Amazon Web Services committing

667
00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:11,093
Speaker 3: to this country seven point five billion dollars worth of investment,

668
00:33:11,133 --> 00:33:13,613
Speaker 3: a thousand jobs. Are you psyched about that or do

669
00:33:13,653 --> 00:33:14,373
Speaker 3: you have concerns?

670
00:33:14,453 --> 00:33:14,573
Speaker 12: Hi?

671
00:33:14,653 --> 00:33:16,853
Speaker 2: Guys, can someone tell your previous caller that there are

672
00:33:16,933 --> 00:33:19,733
Speaker 2: three hundred and seven Golden Visas already investing in small

673
00:33:19,773 --> 00:33:23,333
Speaker 2: and medium New Zealand businesses. That's from Cas Troy. Welcome

674
00:33:23,373 --> 00:33:23,613
Speaker 2: to the.

675
00:33:23,533 --> 00:33:25,453
Speaker 7: Show, gentlemen.

676
00:33:25,493 --> 00:33:27,013
Speaker 3: How are you very good? Mate?

677
00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:28,853
Speaker 9: Oh? Wow?

678
00:33:29,373 --> 00:33:32,853
Speaker 7: This is just amazing because we desperately need this investment

679
00:33:33,013 --> 00:33:36,373
Speaker 7: and I'm quite shocked at this. You know, these naysayers

680
00:33:36,413 --> 00:33:39,773
Speaker 7: out there, they just have to stop being myopic and

681
00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:43,773
Speaker 7: think of this as a right wing conspiracy or big

682
00:33:43,853 --> 00:33:46,893
Speaker 7: business coming in and doing it. And what they probably

683
00:33:46,893 --> 00:33:49,733
Speaker 7: may be shocked at is that this was actually started

684
00:33:49,933 --> 00:33:53,133
Speaker 7: by labor led government, So this is just that time

685
00:33:53,173 --> 00:33:55,493
Speaker 7: has occurred now, So I wonder what they'd actually say

686
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:55,813
Speaker 7: to that.

687
00:33:56,293 --> 00:33:59,093
Speaker 3: Yes, good point. It does feel a bit trible sometimes

688
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,893
Speaker 3: when you see some of these naysayers and arguments against

689
00:34:01,933 --> 00:34:02,773
Speaker 3: this sort of investment.

690
00:34:03,893 --> 00:34:06,053
Speaker 7: I mean, this is needed. You know, seven point five

691
00:34:06,093 --> 00:34:09,013
Speaker 7: billion dollars being invested in our country and people are

692
00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:11,973
Speaker 7: sitting there saying, you know now that our containers are

693
00:34:12,053 --> 00:34:14,653
Speaker 7: driving around with mrsk on the outside of them. Well,

694
00:34:14,813 --> 00:34:16,573
Speaker 7: you go to France and you see main freight on

695
00:34:16,573 --> 00:34:18,693
Speaker 7: the outside of other containers over there too, which is

696
00:34:18,693 --> 00:34:21,213
Speaker 7: a New Zealand company. We've just got to be proud

697
00:34:21,333 --> 00:34:24,453
Speaker 7: enough to try and utilize this advantage to be able

698
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:27,253
Speaker 7: to make sure we start our business further and further

699
00:34:27,613 --> 00:34:31,973
Speaker 7: and stop being so bloody negative nicely.

700
00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:37,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, the reaction today was so uniformly negative. It was

701
00:34:38,253 --> 00:34:41,172
Speaker 2: sort of like an orchestrated bucket of water throwing over

702
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:44,573
Speaker 2: something that on the surface seemed like something we could

703
00:34:44,613 --> 00:34:45,253
Speaker 2: be celebrating.

704
00:34:46,213 --> 00:34:48,333
Speaker 7: I just don't understand it. I mean, you know, but

705
00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:50,893
Speaker 7: the other day you guys were talking about going to

706
00:34:50,933 --> 00:34:53,453
Speaker 7: the Springs tabin and on hunger. I took my wife's

707
00:34:53,453 --> 00:34:55,533
Speaker 7: in the air because of something that you guys said.

708
00:34:55,533 --> 00:34:58,933
Speaker 7: It was fantastic a local business that is actually trying

709
00:34:58,933 --> 00:35:01,373
Speaker 7: to grow itself. Now I know, I'm probably giving them

710
00:35:01,413 --> 00:35:03,253
Speaker 7: a plug because it was bloody worth it. And at

711
00:35:03,253 --> 00:35:05,653
Speaker 7: the moment, Matt, the accounts on your name there anytime

712
00:35:05,653 --> 00:35:08,933
Speaker 7: you're passing your pay for it I'll you know, we've

713
00:35:09,013 --> 00:35:12,853
Speaker 7: got to start promoting businesses more and an opportunity like

714
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:17,093
Speaker 7: this from an international organization investing here, they can invest anywhere.

715
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:20,533
Speaker 7: They're coming to New Zealand, let's actually start celebrating it

716
00:35:20,653 --> 00:35:22,333
Speaker 7: rather than this tall poppy syndrome.

717
00:35:22,773 --> 00:35:26,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that that you know, the pub you just mentioned,

718
00:35:26,893 --> 00:35:29,973
Speaker 2: they got absolutely put through the ringer trying to get

719
00:35:30,013 --> 00:35:34,013
Speaker 2: their their their license up and running apps. I mean

720
00:35:34,093 --> 00:35:37,053
Speaker 2: for a yeah, bureaucracy.

721
00:35:37,493 --> 00:35:40,293
Speaker 7: Bureaucracy is running this country. Let's try and cut the

722
00:35:40,373 --> 00:35:42,373
Speaker 7: red tape so we can actually get things, haven't they.

723
00:35:42,453 --> 00:35:45,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're with Detroit and thank you very much for

724
00:35:45,493 --> 00:35:48,373
Speaker 3: over a dose of positivity and a bit of reality

725
00:35:48,413 --> 00:35:49,453
Speaker 3: to say this is a good thing.

726
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:52,973
Speaker 2: Mate, always nice to check. Go well guys on hundredsent

727
00:35:53,053 --> 00:35:55,333
Speaker 2: agree with John. Life was better before labour turned the

728
00:35:55,373 --> 00:35:57,093
Speaker 2: country on its head in the eighties, when we had

729
00:35:57,133 --> 00:36:00,373
Speaker 2: less money but houses and necessarily where we will pay

730
00:36:00,413 --> 00:36:03,253
Speaker 2: for you to fill potholes take the desirable let out

731
00:36:03,253 --> 00:36:06,373
Speaker 2: of taxpayer funded options. Yes, but we were very wealthy

732
00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:10,652
Speaker 2: country before nine to eighty four. But once the UK

733
00:36:11,133 --> 00:36:14,613
Speaker 2: joined the European Union, they stopped importing our products, so

734
00:36:14,693 --> 00:36:17,133
Speaker 2: we were buying them. Muldoon was buying them and stopped

735
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,053
Speaker 2: piling them. So that doesn't work as a system. If

736
00:36:19,093 --> 00:36:22,013
Speaker 2: your government's buying the produce off your farmers, you eventually

737
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,333
Speaker 2: go by bankrupt.

738
00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:26,933
Speaker 3: Ye, comparing apples with oranges to use the analogy.

739
00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:29,893
Speaker 2: Things were going great from after World War Two up

740
00:36:29,973 --> 00:36:35,613
Speaker 2: until that point when the EU formed and the UK

741
00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:36,133
Speaker 2: dump duff.

742
00:36:36,213 --> 00:36:38,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had to change rapidly.

743
00:36:37,853 --> 00:36:39,813
Speaker 2: So that the box when they opened up in eighty four,

744
00:36:39,813 --> 00:36:41,533
Speaker 2: they didn't want to see what they saw, but what

745
00:36:41,573 --> 00:36:45,053
Speaker 2: they saw led them to make some massive changes exactly.

746
00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:47,533
Speaker 3: And this text here, what is wrong with you in

747
00:36:47,533 --> 00:36:49,893
Speaker 3: New Zealand? Stop moaning and whining. It's a good idea,

748
00:36:49,973 --> 00:36:52,573
Speaker 3: Give it a go. It honestly seems as though we

749
00:36:52,653 --> 00:36:55,973
Speaker 3: have a default position of negativity. We need investment and investors.

750
00:36:56,013 --> 00:36:58,172
Speaker 3: Or would we prefer to bury our heads in the

751
00:36:58,213 --> 00:37:00,493
Speaker 3: sand and return to the good old days of isolation

752
00:37:00,573 --> 00:37:02,493
Speaker 3: and dependence on the good will of other nations to

753
00:37:02,493 --> 00:37:05,172
Speaker 3: be our safety val because history shows that's not going

754
00:37:05,213 --> 00:37:05,813
Speaker 3: to be reliable.

755
00:37:06,413 --> 00:37:08,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of support for Troy through so

756
00:37:08,773 --> 00:37:10,493
Speaker 2: there is people out there that are positive about the

757
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:10,813
Speaker 2: whole thing.

758
00:37:11,133 --> 00:37:11,293
Speaker 9: Yeah.

759
00:37:12,053 --> 00:37:13,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll watch the space.

760
00:37:13,573 --> 00:37:15,693
Speaker 3: Absolutely great chat, and there'll be a lot more to

761
00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:19,013
Speaker 3: come on that story over the next days and weeks,

762
00:37:19,013 --> 00:37:21,293
Speaker 3: So look forward to that, right coming up to coming

763
00:37:21,373 --> 00:37:24,413
Speaker 3: after two o'clock, looking forward to this chat. You want

764
00:37:24,413 --> 00:37:26,453
Speaker 3: to see this video the man who was caught on

765
00:37:26,493 --> 00:37:29,773
Speaker 3: camera snatching appearing to snatch, I should say, I had

766
00:37:29,813 --> 00:37:31,893
Speaker 3: off a young boy at the US Open. His said

767
00:37:31,893 --> 00:37:34,933
Speaker 3: he's made a huge mistake. After the footage went viral

768
00:37:35,213 --> 00:37:37,893
Speaker 3: and the pitchforks came out and everyone came after him.

769
00:37:37,973 --> 00:37:41,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that this says more about our culture

770
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:45,973
Speaker 2: of name and shame and knee jerk reactions and as

771
00:37:45,973 --> 00:37:48,533
Speaker 2: you say, Tyler getting the internet pitchforks out before we

772
00:37:48,573 --> 00:37:51,253
Speaker 2: see the true story. Yeah, then it says particularly about

773
00:37:51,253 --> 00:37:54,773
Speaker 2: the CEO. So look, I'm not gonna be popular on

774
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,413
Speaker 2: this or already the text machine is having a go.

775
00:37:56,533 --> 00:37:58,692
Speaker 2: But I've gone through the footage frame by frame, and

776
00:37:58,733 --> 00:38:01,493
Speaker 2: I don't think he did what you think he did,

777
00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:03,453
Speaker 2: and I don't think he needs to be shamed like

778
00:38:03,493 --> 00:38:04,333
Speaker 2: everyone's shamed of.

779
00:38:04,493 --> 00:38:07,493
Speaker 3: Get the tases ready, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

780
00:38:07,693 --> 00:38:08,212
Speaker 3: is the number?

781
00:38:08,493 --> 00:38:08,732
Speaker 12: Cool?

782
00:38:09,253 --> 00:38:11,373
Speaker 3: How do you think about the situation? And was the

783
00:38:11,373 --> 00:38:14,333
Speaker 3: Internet pilon just a bit much. Keen on your views.

784
00:38:14,373 --> 00:38:16,733
Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is a text number you're listening to

785
00:38:16,773 --> 00:38:19,333
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler. Hope you having a great Tuesday afternoon.

786
00:38:19,373 --> 00:38:23,973
Speaker 3: Stay right here. We'll be back very surely.

787
00:38:25,933 --> 00:38:26,453
Speaker 2: Watch me.

788
00:38:28,853 --> 00:38:35,172
Speaker 15: Just the later. Don't be burning but suesdaa watch me.

789
00:38:38,013 --> 00:38:38,252
Speaker 3: Later.

790
00:38:39,613 --> 00:38:44,013
Speaker 15: I still get the body of running up work when Mama,

791
00:38:52,213 --> 00:38:55,773
Speaker 15: I don't beat me, don't you know me?

792
00:38:57,893 --> 00:39:02,692
Speaker 2: Then set down.

793
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,453
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

794
00:39:07,493 --> 00:39:09,893
Speaker 1: Adams after us talk.

795
00:39:09,773 --> 00:39:14,172
Speaker 3: Zivy get Adu, welcome back into the show. Really good

796
00:39:14,213 --> 00:39:16,253
Speaker 3: have you with us? As always, this is going to

797
00:39:16,293 --> 00:39:18,933
Speaker 3: be a fascinating chat. So you would have seen this video.

798
00:39:19,013 --> 00:39:22,453
Speaker 3: It's everywhere at the moment, the latest internet pylon. The

799
00:39:22,493 --> 00:39:24,573
Speaker 3: man who was caught on camera snatching a hat off

800
00:39:24,613 --> 00:39:27,212
Speaker 3: a young boy at the US Open, he's come out

801
00:39:27,333 --> 00:39:29,533
Speaker 3: and he said he made a huge mistake after the

802
00:39:29,573 --> 00:39:32,333
Speaker 3: footage of the incident has gone viral. His name is

803
00:39:32,453 --> 00:39:36,212
Speaker 3: Peter Shashurick. He's a Polish chief executive of a paving firm,

804
00:39:36,493 --> 00:39:40,093
Speaker 3: and said he was convinced tennis star Camille Mike Hazark

805
00:39:40,213 --> 00:39:42,613
Speaker 3: had been passing the hat in his direction.

806
00:39:43,573 --> 00:39:43,772
Speaker 14: Yeah.

807
00:39:43,853 --> 00:39:45,413
Speaker 2: So, I mean I've watched the footage a number of

808
00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:47,893
Speaker 2: times and the immediate response from the intet was name

809
00:39:48,133 --> 00:39:50,853
Speaker 2: and shame, and the vitrel came out and it was

810
00:39:50,893 --> 00:39:53,333
Speaker 2: sort of on the back of the coldplay ceo, the

811
00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:56,732
Speaker 2: cheating CEO. So people were in the punch ceo mode.

812
00:39:56,893 --> 00:39:57,093
Speaker 3: Yep.

813
00:39:57,173 --> 00:39:57,973
Speaker 2: So that was a lot of it.

814
00:39:58,173 --> 00:39:59,533
Speaker 3: Absolutely, nearly every.

815
00:39:59,373 --> 00:40:03,692
Speaker 2: Piece of hate started with rich bastard Selfish CEOs are

816
00:40:03,693 --> 00:40:07,533
Speaker 2: all bad people. He's a millionaire. Of course, he steals things, yeah,

817
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:10,773
Speaker 2: and all that kind of quite crazy stuff. But if

818
00:40:10,813 --> 00:40:13,853
Speaker 2: you actually look at the footage, there's there's a different

819
00:40:13,893 --> 00:40:17,893
Speaker 2: interpretation of it, absolutely different interpretation of it. He never

820
00:40:17,933 --> 00:40:20,133
Speaker 2: at any point is looking at the boy when he

821
00:40:20,213 --> 00:40:22,053
Speaker 2: takes the cap, and you know, people that's saying that

822
00:40:22,093 --> 00:40:25,013
Speaker 2: he is he's it doesn't look like he is from

823
00:40:25,013 --> 00:40:27,333
Speaker 2: the angler's head, but his head's not actually in the footage. Yeah,

824
00:40:28,013 --> 00:40:30,413
Speaker 2: so he you know, he's just cut out there and

825
00:40:30,733 --> 00:40:33,053
Speaker 2: he's just a frenzy. His favorite tennis payers. There is

826
00:40:33,053 --> 00:40:36,213
Speaker 2: a Polish CEO who's done a lot for tennis and

827
00:40:36,293 --> 00:40:38,253
Speaker 2: Poland he's excited about the guy. He was talking to

828
00:40:38,333 --> 00:40:40,973
Speaker 2: the player beforehand, knows him personally, he thought that he

829
00:40:41,093 --> 00:40:42,533
Speaker 2: was going to that the hat was being there for

830
00:40:42,573 --> 00:40:44,653
Speaker 2: his sons. Because he was getting a hat for his sons,

831
00:40:44,693 --> 00:40:47,213
Speaker 2: he puts it in the bag for not for himself.

832
00:40:47,733 --> 00:40:50,613
Speaker 2: The kid's already got a big ball. The kid's arguably

833
00:40:50,653 --> 00:40:53,133
Speaker 2: a spoiled little brat that thinks he deserves it. So

834
00:40:53,573 --> 00:40:56,053
Speaker 2: there's a lot to unpack on this. But if you

835
00:40:56,253 --> 00:40:58,453
Speaker 2: have not seen the footage, you can text video to

836
00:40:58,573 --> 00:41:00,613
Speaker 2: nine two nine two and we'll send it to you, yep,

837
00:41:00,853 --> 00:41:03,333
Speaker 2: so you can see what we're talking about. But I

838
00:41:03,453 --> 00:41:05,053
Speaker 2: think this is just a case of name and shame

839
00:41:05,093 --> 00:41:06,013
Speaker 2: before we think about it.

840
00:41:06,373 --> 00:41:07,573
Speaker 16: So what have you?

841
00:41:07,973 --> 00:41:09,373
Speaker 2: What more was in the apology Tyler?

842
00:41:09,853 --> 00:41:13,493
Speaker 3: So he goes on to say the official policy apology here,

843
00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:16,733
Speaker 3: while I bring it up that I quote, I know,

844
00:41:16,853 --> 00:41:20,213
Speaker 3: I did something that seemed like consciously collecting a memento

845
00:41:20,293 --> 00:41:23,133
Speaker 3: from a child. That wasn't my intention, but it doesn't

846
00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:26,693
Speaker 3: change the fact that I hurt the boy and disappointed

847
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:28,853
Speaker 3: the fans. So he's owned up for it, and he's

848
00:41:28,933 --> 00:41:31,533
Speaker 3: found the child in question and give him given him

849
00:41:31,573 --> 00:41:34,453
Speaker 3: the hat back. But I've also I also say that

850
00:41:34,613 --> 00:41:36,853
Speaker 3: the child in question did get a hat from the

851
00:41:36,893 --> 00:41:38,853
Speaker 3: tennis player as well, because the tennis player found out

852
00:41:38,853 --> 00:41:41,573
Speaker 3: about it, thought, you know, it's a child crying. I

853
00:41:41,653 --> 00:41:43,652
Speaker 3: better do the right thing. So he met the fan,

854
00:41:43,773 --> 00:41:46,213
Speaker 3: the little boy gave him a hat. Then this CEO

855
00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:49,493
Speaker 3: has turned around and said, of course he can have

856
00:41:49,573 --> 00:41:50,053
Speaker 3: the hat back.

857
00:41:50,493 --> 00:41:54,213
Speaker 2: So are we just so primed to hate and judged

858
00:41:54,253 --> 00:41:56,533
Speaker 2: that we immediately before we know the full story, before

859
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:59,973
Speaker 2: we see the footage before, so it's cut specifically to

860
00:42:00,093 --> 00:42:02,453
Speaker 2: make it look as bad as possible. We just immediately

861
00:42:02,493 --> 00:42:06,333
Speaker 2: go hate this guy, let's ruin his life, terrible human being,

862
00:42:06,773 --> 00:42:09,693
Speaker 2: without looking at the totality, ay totality of the situation,

863
00:42:09,813 --> 00:42:13,853
Speaker 2: or potentially, you know, thinking of some other scenarios in

864
00:42:13,893 --> 00:42:16,013
Speaker 2: which he isn't the most evil person in the world.

865
00:42:16,413 --> 00:42:18,373
Speaker 2: And if your knee jit reaction is just to go,

866
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:21,533
Speaker 2: he's a piece of crap because he's a millionaire and

867
00:42:21,613 --> 00:42:24,853
Speaker 2: he's a CEO, then that probably says a little thing

868
00:42:25,213 --> 00:42:27,613
Speaker 2: something about the levels of jealousy you're running in your life.

869
00:42:27,693 --> 00:42:30,173
Speaker 3: Right Absolutely, while we seem to love an internet pylon

870
00:42:30,253 --> 00:42:32,133
Speaker 3: and this is the latest. So the question to you,

871
00:42:32,653 --> 00:42:35,293
Speaker 3: are these sort of call outs justified in this situation

872
00:42:35,453 --> 00:42:38,093
Speaker 3: to hold people to account or do they go too

873
00:42:38,213 --> 00:42:42,373
Speaker 3: far and ruin lives over one incident that has quite

874
00:42:42,573 --> 00:42:43,813
Speaker 3: likely been misinterpreted.

875
00:42:43,973 --> 00:42:46,093
Speaker 2: Well, according to me, according to you, it hasn't been

876
00:42:46,173 --> 00:42:48,653
Speaker 2: until you've just flipped on your opinion. Tyler, before you

877
00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:51,652
Speaker 2: were saying that you thought he was snatching the hat.

878
00:42:51,893 --> 00:42:53,732
Speaker 3: Well, let's put it out to the jury of news

879
00:42:53,813 --> 00:42:56,133
Speaker 3: Talk ZB listeners. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

880
00:42:56,213 --> 00:42:59,293
Speaker 3: I will say that child was crying, he was screaming,

881
00:42:59,973 --> 00:43:00,533
Speaker 3: and where the.

882
00:43:00,933 --> 00:43:05,213
Speaker 2: Spoiled brat whether the CEO heard that? I mean, the

883
00:43:05,333 --> 00:43:09,253
Speaker 2: CEO's closer to the guy. So this kid that's alreadys

884
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:14,053
Speaker 2: got this massive ball, he's already at in the front row. Anyway, Hey,

885
00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:15,973
Speaker 2: I goes. You need to read out the hat thief

886
00:43:16,213 --> 00:43:19,373
Speaker 2: statement where he threatened legal action for defamation. You're talking

887
00:43:19,373 --> 00:43:21,613
Speaker 2: about this which was fake and showing to be fake.

888
00:43:21,693 --> 00:43:23,733
Speaker 2: It was not a comment when everywhere and that's just

889
00:43:23,773 --> 00:43:25,573
Speaker 2: what muddes the water on these kind of things. So

890
00:43:25,693 --> 00:43:29,693
Speaker 2: a statement that came out from the Polish CEO to shirk,

891
00:43:31,293 --> 00:43:33,533
Speaker 2: I understand that some people might not like it, but please,

892
00:43:33,693 --> 00:43:35,813
Speaker 2: let's not make a global scandal out of the hat.

893
00:43:36,133 --> 00:43:38,453
Speaker 2: It's just a hat. If you were faster you would

894
00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:41,853
Speaker 2: have it. Regarding online hate, I remind you that insulting

895
00:43:41,893 --> 00:43:44,973
Speaker 2: a public figure is subject to legal liability. He never

896
00:43:45,053 --> 00:43:48,253
Speaker 2: said that. And people will just believe something because it's

897
00:43:48,253 --> 00:43:50,653
Speaker 2: put out there without taking into account that the people

898
00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:55,493
Speaker 2: that put that stuff up get something out of rage

899
00:43:55,573 --> 00:44:00,013
Speaker 2: bait and the clicks that come through potentially monetized situation,

900
00:44:00,293 --> 00:44:03,093
Speaker 2: or just want to throw fuel on the fire. Some

901
00:44:03,213 --> 00:44:04,653
Speaker 2: people just want to see the world.

902
00:44:04,533 --> 00:44:06,493
Speaker 3: Burn, certainly do, but he never said that.

903
00:44:06,693 --> 00:44:09,813
Speaker 2: No, So the second relief, second row of hate against

904
00:44:09,893 --> 00:44:12,693
Speaker 2: this poor father there with his kids and his wife

905
00:44:13,093 --> 00:44:15,853
Speaker 2: just trying to get a hat for his sons was

906
00:44:16,053 --> 00:44:17,133
Speaker 2: completely artificial.

907
00:44:17,253 --> 00:44:19,013
Speaker 3: So what do you say, oh, eight hundred and eighty

908
00:44:19,093 --> 00:44:20,733
Speaker 3: ten eighty. If you want to watch the video, just

909
00:44:20,813 --> 00:44:23,733
Speaker 3: text video to nine two ninety two and we'll flick

910
00:44:23,773 --> 00:44:25,573
Speaker 3: your link to watch that. But do you think this

911
00:44:25,773 --> 00:44:28,773
Speaker 3: is fair punishment the internet pylon for what he did

912
00:44:29,093 --> 00:44:31,373
Speaker 3: or do you think this is all just a bit crazy?

913
00:44:31,613 --> 00:44:31,813
Speaker 1: Yeah?

914
00:44:32,173 --> 00:44:34,893
Speaker 2: And do you believe in the concept of judge not

915
00:44:35,093 --> 00:44:36,413
Speaker 2: lest you be judged yourself?

916
00:44:37,453 --> 00:44:37,692
Speaker 11: Wow?

917
00:44:38,613 --> 00:44:43,453
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call, Oh,

918
00:44:43,533 --> 00:44:46,013
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be.

919
00:44:48,493 --> 00:44:51,453
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So the online backlash against

920
00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:55,373
Speaker 3: this Polish ceo allegedly snatching the hat from a child

921
00:44:55,373 --> 00:44:57,853
Speaker 3: at the US Open has been full noise and it

922
00:44:58,013 --> 00:45:01,933
Speaker 3: is impacting his business and his life quite severely. So

923
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,732
Speaker 3: is it justified to hold people to account or does

924
00:45:04,813 --> 00:45:06,853
Speaker 3: this guy a little bit too far to ruin someone's

925
00:45:06,893 --> 00:45:09,293
Speaker 3: life over an incident, whether he's snatched that hat off

926
00:45:09,333 --> 00:45:10,453
Speaker 3: that little crying kittlenot.

927
00:45:10,613 --> 00:45:12,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just so happens in the world that

928
00:45:12,693 --> 00:45:16,013
Speaker 2: sometimes with the amount of stuff being footage, footage looks

929
00:45:16,293 --> 00:45:19,652
Speaker 2: like something and people jump on it, right, and that's

930
00:45:19,653 --> 00:45:21,493
Speaker 2: why it becomes so big. But it doesn't mean that

931
00:45:21,613 --> 00:45:24,053
Speaker 2: there's the intention is there from the guy? And I

932
00:45:24,173 --> 00:45:26,853
Speaker 2: just can't see that intention there. I can't see it,

933
00:45:26,973 --> 00:45:30,333
Speaker 2: but a lot of people can. And text video to

934
00:45:30,613 --> 00:45:32,373
Speaker 2: nine two ninety two. If you haven't seen the video.

935
00:45:32,373 --> 00:45:33,933
Speaker 2: It's the biggest story in the world. But there's some

936
00:45:34,053 --> 00:45:35,533
Speaker 2: people that might not have seen it. So you can

937
00:45:35,573 --> 00:45:37,493
Speaker 2: text video to nine two nine two and we will

938
00:45:37,493 --> 00:45:41,693
Speaker 2: send you a story with that video and it HI.

939
00:45:41,813 --> 00:45:44,373
Speaker 2: You're Matt and Tyler completely agree with you. Matt, Jesus

940
00:45:44,493 --> 00:45:48,573
Speaker 2: Christ with a crazy blow over nothing thanks a brindle.

941
00:45:48,853 --> 00:45:51,053
Speaker 2: Yeah you go, so that's probably the only one that

942
00:45:51,733 --> 00:45:54,093
Speaker 2: the ones aborting you. I'm taking a real hammering here.

943
00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:56,692
Speaker 3: Yeah. We love it, well, I love it anyway, Tim,

944
00:45:56,813 --> 00:45:57,453
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

945
00:45:58,693 --> 00:45:59,613
Speaker 4: I'm well, guys for you?

946
00:46:00,173 --> 00:46:01,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. What do you reckon?

947
00:46:04,293 --> 00:46:06,453
Speaker 4: Well, it's my own opinion, but it happens to align

948
00:46:06,533 --> 00:46:14,172
Speaker 4: with Matt anyone who's got functioning sight, I can see

949
00:46:14,213 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 4: that the boy was given a tennis ball and then

950
00:46:16,853 --> 00:46:18,853
Speaker 4: he looked away all proud of the fact, which is

951
00:46:19,013 --> 00:46:21,453
Speaker 4: very nice. He wouldn't want to be in that position,

952
00:46:22,053 --> 00:46:24,973
Speaker 4: you know, as a kid. And then the guy, the

953
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:29,933
Speaker 4: player takes his hat off and puts the cap out,

954
00:46:30,653 --> 00:46:34,853
Speaker 4: and the guy, the adult takes the hat. Now, little

955
00:46:34,973 --> 00:46:39,213
Speaker 4: little Johnny then goes and has a meltdown, But you

956
00:46:39,293 --> 00:46:41,773
Speaker 4: know he was he was celebrating his own mind of

957
00:46:41,893 --> 00:46:45,253
Speaker 4: victory there, you know exactly. Maybe there's one thing is

958
00:46:45,573 --> 00:46:48,293
Speaker 4: it's clear to see what happened, But then you get people,

959
00:46:48,533 --> 00:46:53,973
Speaker 4: you know, sticking the boot into this man, you know,

960
00:46:54,093 --> 00:46:56,533
Speaker 4: in the seat of some of the introducers to rich

961
00:46:56,653 --> 00:46:58,453
Speaker 4: prick into any sentence.

962
00:46:59,173 --> 00:47:04,373
Speaker 2: They've lost me, yeah, because I mean they don't know.

963
00:47:04,453 --> 00:47:06,613
Speaker 2: I mean it's now come out how much charity work

964
00:47:06,693 --> 00:47:10,533
Speaker 2: this guy does, and how much he's done for impoverished

965
00:47:10,533 --> 00:47:12,293
Speaker 2: people getting into tennis, and how much he's done from

966
00:47:12,293 --> 00:47:15,933
Speaker 2: the game across the board in Poland. So before they before,

967
00:47:15,933 --> 00:47:17,373
Speaker 2: they don't know any of that. Before they go in,

968
00:47:17,613 --> 00:47:21,172
Speaker 2: they don't know. You know, how you know how rich

969
00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:24,652
Speaker 2: he is irrelevant to how he's behaving, which is which

970
00:47:24,733 --> 00:47:26,013
Speaker 2: is the odd part of it. There is a certain

971
00:47:26,173 --> 00:47:29,813
Speaker 2: level of jealousy in the situation. So do you think

972
00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:34,733
Speaker 2: that there is something wrong with the way we are

973
00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:40,133
Speaker 2: piling on as not just as nations but globally. Someone

974
00:47:40,453 --> 00:47:43,533
Speaker 2: someone does this at a tournament, and before we have

975
00:47:43,733 --> 00:47:46,413
Speaker 2: all the facts, the whole internet tries to destroy his life.

976
00:47:46,453 --> 00:47:48,732
Speaker 2: Do you think there's something morally wrong with that? Tim

977
00:47:49,013 --> 00:47:49,573
Speaker 2: leading question?

978
00:47:50,093 --> 00:47:54,533
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely there is. And there are other cases and

979
00:47:54,733 --> 00:47:58,093
Speaker 4: I could, I could offer them up, but people would

980
00:47:58,093 --> 00:48:00,933
Speaker 4: go mental, where do it?

981
00:48:01,373 --> 00:48:03,573
Speaker 3: We don't mind that term? No, no, no, no, you

982
00:48:03,653 --> 00:48:04,173
Speaker 3: don't want that.

983
00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:06,493
Speaker 9: Yeah.

984
00:48:06,533 --> 00:48:08,133
Speaker 3: I've got to say, Tom, I'm watching the video and

985
00:48:08,173 --> 00:48:10,253
Speaker 3: I'm just watching the first couple of seconds again and

986
00:48:10,333 --> 00:48:12,933
Speaker 3: again and again, and I reckon he did snatch it,

987
00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:15,773
Speaker 3: And I don't care if he's a rich CEO. That

988
00:48:15,853 --> 00:48:18,293
Speaker 3: doesn't bother me. It looks to me like he snatched

989
00:48:18,293 --> 00:48:19,773
Speaker 3: it off the kid, and the kids freaked out and

990
00:48:19,813 --> 00:48:21,893
Speaker 3: had a week tantrum. And I knew that i'd find

991
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:24,013
Speaker 3: him when I saw that video. I knew the Internet

992
00:48:24,013 --> 00:48:27,133
Speaker 3: would track that guy down eventually. But even if he

993
00:48:27,213 --> 00:48:29,933
Speaker 3: did snatch it the whole pylon and coming after this

994
00:48:30,013 --> 00:48:32,133
Speaker 3: guy's business and his family and all the rest of it,

995
00:48:32,253 --> 00:48:34,293
Speaker 3: that to me is too far. Even if it is

996
00:48:34,413 --> 00:48:36,893
Speaker 3: true that he stole a hat off an innocent child,

997
00:48:37,413 --> 00:48:39,773
Speaker 3: is that worth losing your whole life over? I think

998
00:48:39,773 --> 00:48:40,652
Speaker 3: that's where I draw the line.

999
00:48:40,733 --> 00:48:42,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see how you can say that, Tyler,

1000
00:48:42,213 --> 00:48:44,053
Speaker 2: A good year got on you. And I'd like to

1001
00:48:44,173 --> 00:48:48,293
Speaker 2: quote Matthew okay, right, yep, and not myself, Okay, I'd

1002
00:48:48,373 --> 00:48:50,373
Speaker 2: like to quote Matthew seven to one to six.

1003
00:48:50,533 --> 00:48:52,493
Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be good from the Bible.

1004
00:48:52,693 --> 00:48:52,893
Speaker 4: Yep.

1005
00:48:53,413 --> 00:48:55,933
Speaker 2: Do not judge, or you too will be judged for

1006
00:48:56,133 --> 00:48:59,173
Speaker 2: in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.

1007
00:48:59,213 --> 00:49:01,853
Speaker 3: And with the measure you use, it will be measured

1008
00:49:02,613 --> 00:49:04,533
Speaker 3: to you powerful and deep.

1009
00:49:04,773 --> 00:49:06,653
Speaker 2: Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in

1010
00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:08,813
Speaker 2: your brother's eye? And pay no intention to the plank

1011
00:49:08,933 --> 00:49:11,773
Speaker 2: in your own eye or that's your hypocritic.

1012
00:49:12,013 --> 00:49:14,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is, that's a big part of it.

1013
00:49:14,493 --> 00:49:14,893
Speaker 4: But we do.

1014
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:17,933
Speaker 3: I mean, look, honesty call. A lot of people love

1015
00:49:17,973 --> 00:49:20,053
Speaker 3: a good internet pylon, no doubt about it. What is

1016
00:49:20,093 --> 00:49:24,053
Speaker 3: it the German word shoulden freuder getting pleasure off someone

1017
00:49:24,133 --> 00:49:26,453
Speaker 3: else's misfortune. There's an element to that, and it's like

1018
00:49:27,213 --> 00:49:29,973
Speaker 3: we are their animalistic brain when we see something going on.

1019
00:49:30,173 --> 00:49:33,133
Speaker 2: I think what's happened here is because people go there

1020
00:49:33,173 --> 00:49:37,772
Speaker 2: there at the tennis. Oh he's a wealthy guy. There's

1021
00:49:37,853 --> 00:49:41,533
Speaker 2: all these reasons to already jealousy piled upon jealousy upon

1022
00:49:41,613 --> 00:49:47,773
Speaker 2: per jealousy. So they take the most negative possible analysis

1023
00:49:47,853 --> 00:49:50,212
Speaker 2: of what's in front of them. Although Renee disagrees, Matt,

1024
00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:52,413
Speaker 2: you're a dropkick. He takes the hat from the kid.

1025
00:49:52,493 --> 00:49:54,693
Speaker 2: I just watch it again, pull your bloody head in

1026
00:49:54,813 --> 00:49:56,573
Speaker 2: you m up it. Good on your Renee, And look

1027
00:49:56,653 --> 00:49:58,812
Speaker 2: I can see Rene's point there as well. She makes

1028
00:49:58,973 --> 00:50:00,253
Speaker 2: she raises some good points.

1029
00:50:00,173 --> 00:50:00,573
Speaker 3: Very valid.

1030
00:50:00,693 --> 00:50:00,853
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1031
00:50:00,853 --> 00:50:03,373
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is another to call.

1032
00:50:03,773 --> 00:50:05,453
Speaker 3: And if you want to see the video, just takes

1033
00:50:05,493 --> 00:50:07,733
Speaker 3: video to nine two ninety two, But keen on your thoughts,

1034
00:50:07,853 --> 00:50:10,573
Speaker 3: is this it pylon fair enough for the CEO or

1035
00:50:10,653 --> 00:50:13,933
Speaker 3: is it a bit too far? Twenty past two, be

1036
00:50:14,133 --> 00:50:17,653
Speaker 3: into and your share of fifty thousand dollars with Cabre Trytime.

1037
00:50:17,853 --> 00:50:22,013
Speaker 3: Simply purchase any Cabre confectionery product and head to Canterbury

1038
00:50:22,093 --> 00:50:25,333
Speaker 3: trytime dot co dot nz. Upload your till the receipt

1039
00:50:25,413 --> 00:50:28,773
Speaker 3: before kickoff and you'll receive a randomly allocated all Blacks

1040
00:50:28,853 --> 00:50:31,133
Speaker 3: jersey number from one to twenty three. Then just wait

1041
00:50:31,213 --> 00:50:33,493
Speaker 3: to see if your jersey number scores New Zealand's first

1042
00:50:33,573 --> 00:50:36,733
Speaker 3: try in the upcoming game. And if your jersey number

1043
00:50:36,853 --> 00:50:39,253
Speaker 3: scores New Zealand's first try in the upcoming game, you

1044
00:50:39,373 --> 00:50:41,252
Speaker 3: win a share of fifty thousand bucks.

1045
00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:44,013
Speaker 2: Remember your jersey number is only valid for the upcoming

1046
00:50:44,053 --> 00:50:47,173
Speaker 2: game and you can enter once per day per receipt.

1047
00:50:47,373 --> 00:50:49,533
Speaker 3: So for all the details and the t's and seas,

1048
00:50:49,733 --> 00:50:52,732
Speaker 3: just visit cabretrytime dot co dot zen.

1049
00:50:52,973 --> 00:50:56,213
Speaker 2: Don't miss out on your chance to win with Cadbrey Trytime.

1050
00:50:55,893 --> 00:50:59,573
Speaker 3: So grab any Cadbrey confectionary product today and join the fun.

1051
00:50:59,853 --> 00:51:02,413
Speaker 2: Cabrey Trytime tes and c's apply open to New Zealand

1052
00:51:02,413 --> 00:51:04,853
Speaker 2: residents aged eighteen or over.

1053
00:51:09,293 --> 00:51:12,973
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1054
00:51:13,053 --> 00:51:15,013
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk zby.

1055
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:17,013
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about the

1056
00:51:17,053 --> 00:51:20,213
Speaker 3: Polish CEO who has come under mass of fire from

1057
00:51:20,253 --> 00:51:23,333
Speaker 3: the whole world Internet pylon for appearing to snatch a

1058
00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:25,133
Speaker 3: hat from a young child at the US Open.

1059
00:51:25,973 --> 00:51:31,013
Speaker 2: Sorry, Renee, I read aut Rene's text and it was

1060
00:51:31,173 --> 00:51:33,613
Speaker 2: and I said, she, But Renee, is he?

1061
00:51:33,773 --> 00:51:34,213
Speaker 3: Oh okay?

1062
00:51:34,253 --> 00:51:36,053
Speaker 2: I thought it might have been renees Elberg at the

1063
00:51:36,413 --> 00:51:37,213
Speaker 2: Hollywood Soups Star.

1064
00:51:37,293 --> 00:51:38,773
Speaker 3: She's a big listener to the show. She loves it.

1065
00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:41,172
Speaker 2: The guy snatched the hat off a child. This one

1066
00:51:41,293 --> 00:51:42,973
Speaker 2: action portrays to me that he is a dick, but

1067
00:51:43,053 --> 00:51:45,652
Speaker 2: I don't know him at Also, my opinion on him

1068
00:51:45,693 --> 00:51:48,293
Speaker 2: as a person is extremely limited. Don't care if he's rich.

1069
00:51:48,373 --> 00:51:50,933
Speaker 2: In fact, good for him. We all do stupid stuff.

1070
00:51:51,093 --> 00:51:53,053
Speaker 2: We don't all have cameras on us. From Nathan, that's

1071
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 2: very very balanced, Button. I think that you're presuming that

1072
00:51:58,373 --> 00:52:00,652
Speaker 2: he snatched the hat. You can't see that he's even looking.

1073
00:52:00,733 --> 00:52:03,292
Speaker 2: The hat comes out. There's a lot going on. There's

1074
00:52:03,653 --> 00:52:06,133
Speaker 2: people everywhere the kid's already got a bunch of stuff.

1075
00:52:06,213 --> 00:52:08,693
Speaker 2: That stuff's being handed out. He's already talk to the

1076
00:52:08,853 --> 00:52:12,013
Speaker 2: tennis player before. There's been some discussion about the tennis

1077
00:52:12,013 --> 00:52:15,053
Speaker 2: player giving his son a hat. So the guy, when

1078
00:52:15,053 --> 00:52:17,373
Speaker 2: the hat comes out, grabs the hat, puts it in

1079
00:52:17,453 --> 00:52:19,653
Speaker 2: his wife's bag for his kid, and it just so

1080
00:52:19,773 --> 00:52:22,973
Speaker 2: happens to look like he snatched it. But he's not

1081
00:52:23,093 --> 00:52:24,853
Speaker 2: looking at the kid. So if he did it, he's

1082
00:52:24,853 --> 00:52:27,893
Speaker 2: a sneaky he'd be a great pickpocket. Is pretty fast,

1083
00:52:27,933 --> 00:52:29,973
Speaker 2: it'd be a great thief because he's not looking at

1084
00:52:29,973 --> 00:52:31,933
Speaker 2: the kid when he grabs it. This guy's tall, This

1085
00:52:32,013 --> 00:52:34,172
Speaker 2: guy's over six foot. The kid's just this little kid

1086
00:52:34,253 --> 00:52:38,293
Speaker 2: down there, the sons in his eyes. There's every chance

1087
00:52:38,413 --> 00:52:40,773
Speaker 2: that he that he didn't. In fact, my reading of

1088
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:42,813
Speaker 2: it is that he didn't snatch it. But even at

1089
00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:44,692
Speaker 2: the start of this, the guy snatched the hat. Yeah,

1090
00:52:44,933 --> 00:52:45,853
Speaker 2: you know, that's what people say.

1091
00:52:46,053 --> 00:52:47,652
Speaker 3: What do you say? That's Matt's view O eight one

1092
00:52:47,693 --> 00:52:50,292
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you haven't seen the video,

1093
00:52:50,493 --> 00:52:52,692
Speaker 3: are nine two ninety two. Just takes video and will

1094
00:52:52,733 --> 00:52:53,573
Speaker 3: send a copy to you.

1095
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:56,693
Speaker 2: Cray your thoughts on this and Internet pylons.

1096
00:52:58,253 --> 00:53:01,133
Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't actually seen the piece you guys are

1097
00:53:01,173 --> 00:53:04,933
Speaker 6: talking about, but when you'd started with throwing to an instant,

1098
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:09,373
Speaker 6: instantly thought of the cold Play situation with couple having

1099
00:53:09,453 --> 00:53:11,773
Speaker 6: your fear getting caught out, definitely, and.

1100
00:53:12,613 --> 00:53:13,493
Speaker 9: You know the guy.

1101
00:53:14,213 --> 00:53:17,373
Speaker 6: You know, it's a dog situation, but it just goes

1102
00:53:17,493 --> 00:53:22,013
Speaker 6: global when it's really something between the two families involved.

1103
00:53:22,133 --> 00:53:24,453
Speaker 6: But you know, it goes to show the power of

1104
00:53:24,573 --> 00:53:27,853
Speaker 6: the camera in the modern world and how fast that

1105
00:53:27,973 --> 00:53:31,493
Speaker 6: stuff spreads, and you can just shut down people's lives, yes,

1106
00:53:31,893 --> 00:53:35,933
Speaker 6: you know, and their future ability you know, to sort

1107
00:53:35,933 --> 00:53:38,373
Speaker 6: of go about the business and the world, and that

1108
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:39,493
Speaker 6: can happen to any of us.

1109
00:53:39,613 --> 00:53:39,773
Speaker 9: Man.

1110
00:53:39,853 --> 00:53:42,773
Speaker 6: There's just everyone's got a camera in your pocket, and

1111
00:53:42,933 --> 00:53:44,973
Speaker 6: it just goes to show I don't know, we need

1112
00:53:45,013 --> 00:53:48,253
Speaker 6: to I don't know where we take it, because we

1113
00:53:48,333 --> 00:53:50,093
Speaker 6: can all full victim to any day, really.

1114
00:53:51,213 --> 00:53:54,453
Speaker 2: And the hate grows, the hate grows upon the hate

1115
00:53:54,573 --> 00:53:57,133
Speaker 2: upon the hate, so it becomes a wave of hate

1116
00:53:57,253 --> 00:53:59,053
Speaker 2: and people are commenting in other people's comments, and in

1117
00:53:59,133 --> 00:54:02,413
Speaker 2: the situation you get a fake press release from the guy,

1118
00:54:02,573 --> 00:54:04,173
Speaker 2: there's hate on top of that, and you were just

1119
00:54:04,213 --> 00:54:06,533
Speaker 2: saying what I rudely talked over you, Craig about the editing.

1120
00:54:06,613 --> 00:54:07,413
Speaker 2: That's a very good point.

1121
00:54:08,813 --> 00:54:12,493
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and like you say, it creates a wave

1122
00:54:12,573 --> 00:54:15,413
Speaker 6: the algorithms, hats gets passed on. I told two friends,

1123
00:54:15,453 --> 00:54:18,093
Speaker 6: they told two friends in the next within twenty four hours.

1124
00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:22,973
Speaker 6: These people's lives can be changed forever. I mean Coldplay concert.

1125
00:54:23,293 --> 00:54:30,493
Speaker 6: I'm sure there are hundreds of dirty dogs the big

1126
00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:33,652
Speaker 6: on the big screen. So I don't know, I mean,

1127
00:54:33,693 --> 00:54:37,212
Speaker 6: this needs some sort of maturity around it, because that's

1128
00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:41,093
Speaker 6: pretty dangerous stuff, the people's lives, you know, you know, Yeah,

1129
00:54:41,773 --> 00:54:42,813
Speaker 6: it's an interesting scenario.

1130
00:54:42,973 --> 00:54:44,853
Speaker 2: I don't wonder how many people that were piling on

1131
00:54:45,293 --> 00:54:49,573
Speaker 2: the CEO that was cheating have have been pure of

1132
00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:52,653
Speaker 2: heart themselves and have never done a career.

1133
00:54:53,413 --> 00:54:55,853
Speaker 6: And that's a's a it's a two edge sort of

1134
00:54:55,933 --> 00:54:58,693
Speaker 6: thing too. I mean, I have recently watched the DOCCO

1135
00:54:59,093 --> 00:55:02,853
Speaker 6: on the Grace Malaye case. We see the TV footage

1136
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:06,853
Speaker 6: was used so powerfully to capture that guy, and so

1137
00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:11,172
Speaker 6: that is like an readable use of the available technology. Yeah,

1138
00:55:11,293 --> 00:55:13,013
Speaker 6: but you know there's dark tides as well.

1139
00:55:13,773 --> 00:55:18,493
Speaker 2: So yeah, that footage, Craig is harrowing. Before before that

1140
00:55:18,613 --> 00:55:22,253
Speaker 2: that that grasp Melane footage just the casual nature of

1141
00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:25,613
Speaker 2: all of it. Seeing all that for real before what happened,

1142
00:55:25,693 --> 00:55:27,613
Speaker 2: I found that actually deeply disturbing.

1143
00:55:27,693 --> 00:55:30,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely is. But good on you, Craig. I mean

1144
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:33,653
Speaker 3: that's when it comes to the internet pylon. That's the

1145
00:55:33,773 --> 00:55:35,893
Speaker 3: part I struggle with, even if this guy snatched the

1146
00:55:35,933 --> 00:55:39,453
Speaker 3: cap or not for one transgression that you've had, say

1147
00:55:39,733 --> 00:55:42,653
Speaker 3: he did snatch it, even if that's true, to have

1148
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:48,533
Speaker 3: your whole life ripped apart and viserated by that one transgression,

1149
00:55:48,653 --> 00:55:52,453
Speaker 3: which on the scheme of things, is not terribly that bad.

1150
00:55:52,613 --> 00:55:55,213
Speaker 2: No, matt If. Yeah, I mean the dis a punishment

1151
00:55:55,253 --> 00:55:58,253
Speaker 2: fit the crime, matt If. It wasn't meant to be

1152
00:55:58,413 --> 00:56:00,213
Speaker 2: for the kid? How come the player track down the

1153
00:56:00,293 --> 00:56:02,253
Speaker 2: kid and gave him the replacement that well, the kid

1154
00:56:02,373 --> 00:56:04,773
Speaker 2: was crying and it was emotional about it. And the

1155
00:56:04,853 --> 00:56:07,853
Speaker 2: same reason why the guy that that is accused of

1156
00:56:07,893 --> 00:56:09,853
Speaker 2: grabbing the cat gave the cap to the kid and

1157
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:11,773
Speaker 2: instead of his own to his own kids who he

1158
00:56:11,813 --> 00:56:15,573
Speaker 2: grabbed it for, because the kid got visibly upstair and

1159
00:56:15,693 --> 00:56:18,093
Speaker 2: through a bit of a I want the hat in

1160
00:56:18,213 --> 00:56:20,613
Speaker 2: the crowd. So the tennis player, Polish tennis player is

1161
00:56:20,613 --> 00:56:22,773
Speaker 2: a good person and thought, well, you know, I've got

1162
00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:26,053
Speaker 2: plenty of hats I can meet, potentially make myself look

1163
00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:27,973
Speaker 2: like a great guy on social media. Give the hat

1164
00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:28,773
Speaker 2: to the kid.

1165
00:56:28,973 --> 00:56:31,013
Speaker 3: Exactly. It was a tant no doubt about it from

1166
00:56:31,013 --> 00:56:32,613
Speaker 3: the child. But what do you say I went undred

1167
00:56:32,693 --> 00:56:35,453
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty? Is this fear punishment for the CEO.

1168
00:56:35,653 --> 00:56:37,973
Speaker 2: But equally as much as I wouldn't ever judge anyone

1169
00:56:38,573 --> 00:56:40,813
Speaker 2: because I am pure of heart, I would also not

1170
00:56:40,933 --> 00:56:43,053
Speaker 2: judge the kid for throwing a massive tanty because when

1171
00:56:43,093 --> 00:56:45,493
Speaker 2: I was a little boy, I threw tanties all over

1172
00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:45,853
Speaker 2: the shop.

1173
00:56:46,053 --> 00:56:46,692
Speaker 3: I bet you did.

1174
00:56:47,213 --> 00:56:49,253
Speaker 2: You did I threw a tanty at Christmas once? When

1175
00:56:50,213 --> 00:56:51,373
Speaker 2: I won't tell that story.

1176
00:56:51,213 --> 00:56:52,293
Speaker 3: Oh please tell that story.

1177
00:56:52,373 --> 00:56:54,853
Speaker 2: Oh maybe you have a think about it? Kids throw tanty.

1178
00:56:58,333 --> 00:56:58,853
Speaker 4: You talk?

1179
00:56:58,973 --> 00:57:02,253
Speaker 13: Said? The headlines put blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1180
00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:06,613
Speaker 13: with a blue bubble retail icon. Smith's City is temporarily

1181
00:57:06,773 --> 00:57:10,173
Speaker 13: closing all name store at its online shop as it

1182
00:57:10,253 --> 00:57:14,813
Speaker 13: goes into voluntary administration administrators and carrying out an urgent

1183
00:57:14,973 --> 00:57:19,213
Speaker 13: assessment of the christ Church company assurance that renewable energy

1184
00:57:19,333 --> 00:57:22,973
Speaker 13: is front of mind for Amazon's new locally based data centers.

1185
00:57:23,293 --> 00:57:26,453
Speaker 13: The Deech Giant is investing seven point five million dollars

1186
00:57:26,613 --> 00:57:30,573
Speaker 13: into the two centers, creating about one thousand jobs. The

1187
00:57:30,693 --> 00:57:33,693
Speaker 13: Prime Minister says he was comfortable finding out about a

1188
00:57:33,773 --> 00:57:37,493
Speaker 13: new FBI based in Wellington just six days before it opened.

1189
00:57:38,013 --> 00:57:41,653
Speaker 13: The government is making changes to universities to ensure a

1190
00:57:41,813 --> 00:57:47,093
Speaker 13: stronger focus on developing a skilled workforce. University's Minister Shane

1191
00:57:47,173 --> 00:57:51,773
Speaker 13: Aretti has announced initiatives to modernize the sector. Adul Clinton

1192
00:57:51,853 --> 00:57:54,973
Speaker 13: Man has sold his fire damaged property for almost five

1193
00:57:55,133 --> 00:57:59,053
Speaker 13: hundred thousand dollars at a one dollar reserve. The Alveston

1194
00:57:59,093 --> 00:58:01,653
Speaker 13: Street property and waterview burned to the ground a year

1195
00:58:01,693 --> 00:58:05,173
Speaker 13: ago and the sixty seven year old owner lost everything.

1196
00:58:05,893 --> 00:58:11,373
Speaker 13: Amazon Construction Freeze, Prime Tech Giants launch massive Auckland site

1197
00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:13,973
Speaker 13: sits bear back to Matt and Tyler.

1198
00:58:14,253 --> 00:58:16,213
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. So we're talking about this

1199
00:58:16,293 --> 00:58:20,373
Speaker 3: Polish ceo. His name is Peter Shasheric and he's been

1200
00:58:20,373 --> 00:58:22,133
Speaker 3: accused of snatching a hat from a child at the

1201
00:58:22,253 --> 00:58:24,093
Speaker 3: US Open. He's come out and he said he made

1202
00:58:24,133 --> 00:58:27,293
Speaker 3: a huge mistake. I quote, I know I did something

1203
00:58:27,693 --> 00:58:30,653
Speaker 3: that looked like I was snatching a memento from a child.

1204
00:58:30,893 --> 00:58:32,973
Speaker 3: That wasn't my intention, but doesn't change the fact that

1205
00:58:33,013 --> 00:58:34,653
Speaker 3: I hurt the boy and disappointed the fans.

1206
00:58:35,653 --> 00:58:37,893
Speaker 2: If you can't see that he's snatching the hat, you're

1207
00:58:37,893 --> 00:58:40,813
Speaker 2: wearing the old rose tinted glasses mate with some PC

1208
00:58:41,013 --> 00:58:43,373
Speaker 2: cotton wool thrown in for good measure, he takes the

1209
00:58:43,413 --> 00:58:46,413
Speaker 2: hat like a self important person who had Is it

1210
00:58:46,453 --> 00:58:49,813
Speaker 2: a good thing? He got sprung? How is that PC?

1211
00:58:50,773 --> 00:58:53,893
Speaker 2: I think the PC thing is to slam the CEO,

1212
00:58:54,933 --> 00:58:57,173
Speaker 2: but look you don't.

1213
00:58:58,173 --> 00:58:59,133
Speaker 3: It's a small video.

1214
00:58:59,373 --> 00:59:01,773
Speaker 2: I will say that the point of why we're discussing

1215
00:59:01,893 --> 00:59:06,573
Speaker 2: is are people to quick to pile on judgment before

1216
00:59:06,653 --> 00:59:10,733
Speaker 2: they know what's going on. Before the hat was handed

1217
00:59:11,093 --> 00:59:14,613
Speaker 2: out that the CEO grabbed, he'd had a conversation with

1218
00:59:14,773 --> 00:59:17,573
Speaker 2: the Polish player they're both Polish, yep, And he said,

1219
00:59:17,613 --> 00:59:19,173
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hat for one of your sons.

1220
00:59:19,253 --> 00:59:22,253
Speaker 2: That was confirmed was confirmed, So he had said I'll

1221
00:59:22,293 --> 00:59:23,813
Speaker 2: get your hat for a son. So when the hat

1222
00:59:23,893 --> 00:59:25,533
Speaker 2: came out, he thought that was the hat that has

1223
00:59:25,533 --> 00:59:27,253
Speaker 2: been given to one of his sons. So it popped

1224
00:59:27,333 --> 00:59:29,093
Speaker 2: up and he grabbed it. The little kid wanted it.

1225
00:59:29,253 --> 00:59:31,573
Speaker 2: He went to grab it, and he was upset when

1226
00:59:31,573 --> 00:59:32,973
Speaker 2: he couldn't get it along with all the other stuff

1227
00:59:32,973 --> 00:59:35,493
Speaker 2: he'd already got, including that big ball. Yes, look it

1228
00:59:35,613 --> 00:59:36,933
Speaker 2: up in the front road. There's a lot going on.

1229
00:59:37,093 --> 00:59:39,893
Speaker 2: It's exciting, and everyone's just assumed and piled on and

1230
00:59:39,933 --> 00:59:42,013
Speaker 2: said because he's a CEO. I mean, every comment's coming through.

1231
00:59:42,053 --> 00:59:44,613
Speaker 2: And CEOs only get there by trampling on people, and

1232
00:59:44,773 --> 00:59:47,013
Speaker 2: millionaires only get to the top because they trample on people.

1233
00:59:47,053 --> 00:59:48,693
Speaker 3: And this has just proves it, right, Yeah, the rich

1234
00:59:48,773 --> 00:59:51,173
Speaker 3: hatred is pretty strong also that. But what do you say,

1235
00:59:51,293 --> 00:59:54,093
Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty does the punishment fit

1236
00:59:54,173 --> 00:59:54,533
Speaker 3: the crime?

1237
00:59:55,293 --> 00:59:55,533
Speaker 9: Mark?

1238
00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:56,293
Speaker 4: Mark?

1239
00:59:56,333 --> 00:59:59,493
Speaker 2: Welcome with the show after then, gentlemen, there you go.

1240
01:00:01,053 --> 01:00:04,413
Speaker 17: Thought, Yeah, look Matt, yeah, good good, I agree. I

1241
01:00:04,533 --> 01:00:07,133
Speaker 17: agree with your mat We saw the mark of time

1242
01:00:07,213 --> 01:00:09,933
Speaker 17: and it was this like and one of my workmates

1243
01:00:09,973 --> 01:00:11,693
Speaker 17: that I said, oh god, this is rage bait. Wait

1244
01:00:11,813 --> 01:00:13,613
Speaker 17: until everyone gets in the back and rips us and

1245
01:00:13,693 --> 01:00:18,053
Speaker 17: you what this guy you ring? Oh look look, this

1246
01:00:18,173 --> 01:00:20,373
Speaker 17: sort of stuff's been going on for years. And the

1247
01:00:20,453 --> 01:00:23,173
Speaker 17: problem with social media is that, as you said, anybody

1248
01:00:23,253 --> 01:00:28,013
Speaker 17: with the phone has spreading your face and it's straight

1249
01:00:28,053 --> 01:00:30,693
Speaker 17: on social media. It's not just that like the media

1250
01:00:30,773 --> 01:00:33,693
Speaker 17: itself is pretty good, only giving you the half story

1251
01:00:33,813 --> 01:00:36,213
Speaker 17: or half the time, you know, and you look brings

1252
01:00:36,293 --> 01:00:38,933
Speaker 17: like in America, and all of a sudden, you know this,

1253
01:00:39,573 --> 01:00:42,813
Speaker 17: this twenty one year old guy was shot by the police,

1254
01:00:43,453 --> 01:00:47,093
Speaker 17: you know, after you know, basically being pulled over. But

1255
01:00:47,253 --> 01:00:51,013
Speaker 17: they don't show you the other hour episode that led

1256
01:00:51,093 --> 01:00:53,093
Speaker 17: up to that, that sort of situation the next minute

1257
01:00:53,173 --> 01:00:56,693
Speaker 17: that just caused us absolute rage and racial tension and

1258
01:00:56,813 --> 01:00:58,493
Speaker 17: god knows what else. And this has been going on

1259
01:00:58,653 --> 01:01:02,053
Speaker 17: for years since social media come out.

1260
01:01:02,213 --> 01:01:04,173
Speaker 4: And the problem with it is too is that you know.

1261
01:01:04,173 --> 01:01:07,933
Speaker 17: We've got large sections of society that are so quickly

1262
01:01:08,053 --> 01:01:12,213
Speaker 17: to to to rage and judge and get so jealous

1263
01:01:12,293 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 17: you know the next butlinity, you've got quarter of a

1264
01:01:13,813 --> 01:01:17,013
Speaker 17: million Greater Thornburg's on you, on you, on you behind,

1265
01:01:17,733 --> 01:01:20,893
Speaker 17: you know, and this is sad way society is. You know,

1266
01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:24,013
Speaker 17: we're so quick to judge before all the facts. It's

1267
01:01:24,053 --> 01:01:27,573
Speaker 17: kind of like shoot firs and ask questions later. And

1268
01:01:27,693 --> 01:01:30,453
Speaker 17: the problem is if like you need of the Prime Minister,

1269
01:01:30,693 --> 01:01:33,933
Speaker 17: like God for bid that he has rentals and expert

1270
01:01:34,133 --> 01:01:37,653
Speaker 17: you know, being wealthy, he has turned into all negativity

1271
01:01:37,693 --> 01:01:40,613
Speaker 17: and apparently you know everyone's that's wealthy.

1272
01:01:40,333 --> 01:01:42,173
Speaker 9: Has done it the dooviiout way.

1273
01:01:42,653 --> 01:01:45,213
Speaker 17: But you know, and like people that think like that,

1274
01:01:45,413 --> 01:01:47,013
Speaker 17: they really need to pull their heads out of their

1275
01:01:47,053 --> 01:01:49,533
Speaker 17: ears and take a really good look at themselves and

1276
01:01:49,653 --> 01:01:52,133
Speaker 17: if they're jealous of someone big, rich or whatever it is,

1277
01:01:53,053 --> 01:01:55,093
Speaker 17: you know, do something better with your life instead of

1278
01:01:55,133 --> 01:01:57,813
Speaker 17: complaining and picking on others just because they're successful and

1279
01:01:57,853 --> 01:02:00,813
Speaker 17: you're not. You know, we I think, you know, we

1280
01:02:00,933 --> 01:02:04,573
Speaker 17: have more Karens or not being offensive towards Karens, but

1281
01:02:04,653 --> 01:02:09,213
Speaker 17: their term Karen. You know, that's been a wildly thrown

1282
01:02:09,253 --> 01:02:11,813
Speaker 17: out everywhere and it's just you know, look at the moment,

1283
01:02:11,893 --> 01:02:15,093
Speaker 17: as I said, with the media, you know, the Australians

1284
01:02:15,613 --> 01:02:19,293
Speaker 17: are all outwaving their flags, you know, and basically all

1285
01:02:19,293 --> 01:02:21,653
Speaker 17: of a sudden, because you're out waving your country's flag,

1286
01:02:22,013 --> 01:02:24,533
Speaker 17: you're a neo Nazi or something like that. Yeah, that's

1287
01:02:24,533 --> 01:02:26,653
Speaker 17: I sort of said that. The media is very good

1288
01:02:26,853 --> 01:02:30,533
Speaker 17: also only telling your half the story, you know, until

1289
01:02:30,533 --> 01:02:32,533
Speaker 17: a couple of days later the full video comes out.

1290
01:02:32,653 --> 01:02:35,973
Speaker 17: So you know, and like adults too, you know, we

1291
01:02:36,053 --> 01:02:39,493
Speaker 17: can get excited, you know, as kids too, you know,

1292
01:02:39,733 --> 01:02:42,653
Speaker 17: like your famous favorite all black sea signatures.

1293
01:02:42,773 --> 01:02:46,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know adults. I think you're so right, Mark,

1294
01:02:46,213 --> 01:02:48,333
Speaker 2: He's so excited. He's such a he may be a

1295
01:02:48,413 --> 01:02:51,013
Speaker 2: grown man, he may be a CEO, but he is

1296
01:02:51,493 --> 01:02:54,333
Speaker 2: fanboy excited. He's a huge tennis fan. He's spent a

1297
01:02:54,413 --> 01:02:56,933
Speaker 2: lot of money helping young people get into tennis and Poland.

1298
01:02:57,293 --> 01:02:59,293
Speaker 2: He's a huge fan. And he's just feverish to get

1299
01:02:59,333 --> 01:03:01,173
Speaker 2: some stuff for his sons and his wife that is there.

1300
01:03:01,213 --> 01:03:03,573
Speaker 2: It's really great for him that he's at the US Open.

1301
01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:05,893
Speaker 2: He's excited and he's a bit feverish and he doesn't

1302
01:03:05,893 --> 01:03:08,053
Speaker 2: really see the kid. That's my taking of it. But

1303
01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:10,453
Speaker 2: apparently according to this text machine, that means that I

1304
01:03:10,533 --> 01:03:12,733
Speaker 2: need to be burnt at the stake. But for having

1305
01:03:12,773 --> 01:03:14,933
Speaker 2: a generous take on the situation.

1306
01:03:14,733 --> 01:03:16,693
Speaker 3: After you now as well? Haven't they bred on?

1307
01:03:16,973 --> 01:03:17,093
Speaker 12: Oh?

1308
01:03:17,173 --> 01:03:19,533
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1309
01:03:19,653 --> 01:03:21,493
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I thought he was hard done by two

1310
01:03:21,573 --> 01:03:23,933
Speaker 2: great show that's from Karina. Thank you so much.

1311
01:03:24,253 --> 01:03:27,813
Speaker 3: So does this guy, the CEO Polish CEO, deserve all

1312
01:03:27,853 --> 01:03:30,493
Speaker 3: the hatred he's getting or is it a bit too much?

1313
01:03:30,613 --> 01:03:30,733
Speaker 9: Love?

1314
01:03:30,813 --> 01:03:33,053
Speaker 3: To get your thoughts on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1315
01:03:33,013 --> 01:03:35,133
Speaker 2: Social media is the worst. Who cares what other people

1316
01:03:35,173 --> 01:03:36,733
Speaker 2: are up to? What does it matter? How does it

1317
01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:38,973
Speaker 2: affect you? Less worrying about what other people are up

1318
01:03:39,013 --> 01:03:41,693
Speaker 2: to and concentrate on being just a normal, good human

1319
01:03:41,813 --> 01:03:44,253
Speaker 2: being would result in a better world. Cheers from Steve.

1320
01:03:44,373 --> 01:03:44,933
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve.

1321
01:03:45,053 --> 01:03:48,613
Speaker 3: Good message there. It is twenty one two three back

1322
01:03:48,693 --> 01:03:50,413
Speaker 3: very surely you're listening to Matton Tyler.

1323
01:03:51,333 --> 01:03:54,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

1324
01:03:54,613 --> 01:03:58,213
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty, it's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

1325
01:03:58,413 --> 01:03:58,973
Speaker 1: news talks.

1326
01:03:58,973 --> 01:04:00,973
Speaker 2: They'd be It is nineteen to three, so we're talking

1327
01:04:01,013 --> 01:04:03,973
Speaker 2: about this Polish CEO who has been accused of snatching

1328
01:04:04,013 --> 01:04:06,893
Speaker 2: a kid a hat off a kid at the US Open.

1329
01:04:07,573 --> 01:04:09,933
Speaker 2: He's come out with statement saying he was sorry hurt

1330
01:04:10,013 --> 01:04:12,173
Speaker 2: the kid, but he didn't mean to do it, et cetera.

1331
01:04:12,293 --> 01:04:14,093
Speaker 2: But the Internet has decided that he deserves to have

1332
01:04:14,213 --> 01:04:17,573
Speaker 2: his head lopped off. I said earlier, you know that

1333
01:04:17,813 --> 01:04:19,893
Speaker 2: I didn't think you know that's judge not yet ye

1334
01:04:20,453 --> 01:04:23,333
Speaker 2: lest you be judge yourself, or to quote it correctly

1335
01:04:23,373 --> 01:04:25,413
Speaker 2: from the Bible, do not judge, or you too will

1336
01:04:25,453 --> 01:04:28,373
Speaker 2: be judged. But then I said that the kid threw

1337
01:04:28,373 --> 01:04:32,533
Speaker 2: it spares and had a tenting and he did, but

1338
01:04:32,733 --> 01:04:36,013
Speaker 2: I'm not judging that because I threw at his agent

1339
01:04:36,053 --> 01:04:38,413
Speaker 2: a number of tantrums. In fact, the most embarrassing one

1340
01:04:38,453 --> 01:04:40,453
Speaker 2: for me that I feel shame to this day was

1341
01:04:40,613 --> 01:04:43,373
Speaker 2: one Christmas. I'd asked for a bike, yep, a BMX

1342
01:04:43,413 --> 01:04:46,893
Speaker 2: bike night, and my dad, for a joke, decided to

1343
01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:49,373
Speaker 2: pretend that he hadn't got me one, and so we

1344
01:04:49,493 --> 01:04:51,653
Speaker 2: all opened our presence and at the end I was

1345
01:04:51,693 --> 01:04:53,333
Speaker 2: so sure I was going to get a bike, and

1346
01:04:53,453 --> 01:04:56,813
Speaker 2: then I started going jumping up and down, going where's

1347
01:04:56,853 --> 01:04:59,413
Speaker 2: my bike? And then and just as my dad was

1348
01:04:59,413 --> 01:05:02,213
Speaker 2: wheeling it down down the hallway for a gag.

1349
01:05:03,413 --> 01:05:04,573
Speaker 3: So shameful.

1350
01:05:04,773 --> 01:05:06,853
Speaker 2: So when the bike came in that that shame has

1351
01:05:06,933 --> 01:05:08,533
Speaker 2: lived with me my whole life. That I I got

1352
01:05:08,613 --> 01:05:10,893
Speaker 2: upset about just getting this present and my dad had

1353
01:05:10,933 --> 01:05:12,853
Speaker 2: done this really fantastic thing for me.

1354
01:05:13,093 --> 01:05:15,213
Speaker 3: He was just playing a dad joke and you had

1355
01:05:15,253 --> 01:05:17,053
Speaker 3: a massive in there.

1356
01:05:17,093 --> 01:05:18,773
Speaker 2: And you know, I've tried to get better since I

1357
01:05:18,893 --> 01:05:20,653
Speaker 2: was six years old, but I have thrown the odd

1358
01:05:20,693 --> 01:05:21,333
Speaker 2: tanty since.

1359
01:05:21,213 --> 01:05:23,453
Speaker 3: Then as well, not too many the mate, to be honest, Hi.

1360
01:05:23,413 --> 01:05:25,533
Speaker 2: Guys, I believe a picture paints a thousand words, but

1361
01:05:25,613 --> 01:05:27,893
Speaker 2: a video leaves it open to interpretation. And just like

1362
01:05:28,013 --> 01:05:30,653
Speaker 2: you met, you're getting the pylon for your own interpretation

1363
01:05:30,973 --> 01:05:36,853
Speaker 2: of the video. Doogie, you think that the CEO is

1364
01:05:36,893 --> 01:05:37,453
Speaker 2: a dirty dog?

1365
01:05:39,973 --> 01:05:44,053
Speaker 9: No, I believe he's a drop kick, right, And I

1366
01:05:44,173 --> 01:05:51,253
Speaker 9: believe I believe that because irrespect of who he is

1367
01:05:51,733 --> 01:05:55,053
Speaker 9: or what he is, even before we've found out what

1368
01:05:55,213 --> 01:06:00,533
Speaker 9: he'd done, I asked you this, where's his mona?

1369
01:06:01,853 --> 01:06:03,133
Speaker 2: Well, so where's his mona?

1370
01:06:03,533 --> 01:06:05,573
Speaker 9: As an adult to a young kid.

1371
01:06:07,253 --> 01:06:08,973
Speaker 2: The manner is that he gave the back when he

1372
01:06:09,053 --> 01:06:13,333
Speaker 2: realized that he had taken no no, no no, after.

1373
01:06:13,173 --> 01:06:16,573
Speaker 9: The after the public outcry. But but I'll say this

1374
01:06:16,693 --> 01:06:21,253
Speaker 9: to you, a situation and it well in the area

1375
01:06:21,293 --> 01:06:25,693
Speaker 9: of the situation. If we were all witnessed to that

1376
01:06:26,333 --> 01:06:28,333
Speaker 9: in New Zealand here, we'd all have a view on

1377
01:06:29,173 --> 01:06:33,013
Speaker 9: on that individual. Right, So nothing changes because we're human

1378
01:06:33,853 --> 01:06:37,613
Speaker 9: and you just don't do that kind of okay, But.

1379
01:06:37,813 --> 01:06:39,773
Speaker 2: I mean we can't, Doug, you. We can argue about

1380
01:06:39,773 --> 01:06:41,573
Speaker 2: whether he did or not. My interpretation is looking at

1381
01:06:41,573 --> 01:06:43,173
Speaker 2: it that he couldn't see the kid and was just

1382
01:06:43,253 --> 01:06:46,773
Speaker 2: excited about getting the hat for just let me finish

1383
01:06:46,813 --> 01:06:48,813
Speaker 2: your Dougie to just have the hat for his kid.

1384
01:06:49,173 --> 01:06:50,973
Speaker 2: But wouldn't you say that his mana, as you say,

1385
01:06:51,093 --> 01:06:53,333
Speaker 2: comes from the new evidence that's come out that how

1386
01:06:53,413 --> 01:06:56,333
Speaker 2: much he's done for poor people in Poland trying to

1387
01:06:56,333 --> 01:06:58,933
Speaker 2: get into tennis, and he's he's done a huge amount

1388
01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:01,173
Speaker 2: of community work. So you can could you could you

1389
01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:04,253
Speaker 2: see that that goes in his favor a little bit, Dougie?

1390
01:07:05,373 --> 01:07:08,773
Speaker 9: No, And you know why I say that. You have

1391
01:07:08,853 --> 01:07:12,333
Speaker 9: a look. He takes the tennis player takes his that

1392
01:07:12,493 --> 01:07:15,293
Speaker 9: off with his left hand and passes it to the right.

1393
01:07:15,973 --> 01:07:18,413
Speaker 9: Have a look at it. The little boy goes to

1394
01:07:18,493 --> 01:07:21,013
Speaker 9: grab it, The little boy goes to grab it, the

1395
01:07:21,133 --> 01:07:24,613
Speaker 9: other guy takes it. That's exactly what happened.

1396
01:07:27,413 --> 01:07:30,773
Speaker 2: Before, where the tennis player had said, I'll give you

1397
01:07:31,053 --> 01:07:32,613
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a hat from my son

1398
01:07:32,693 --> 01:07:33,533
Speaker 2: that discussed it before.

1399
01:07:33,613 --> 01:07:35,373
Speaker 9: We don't know that. We don't know that because we

1400
01:07:35,453 --> 01:07:39,333
Speaker 9: can't hear it. We're only we're in the after event, right,

1401
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:46,973
Speaker 9: We're in the after event. So we've all got opinions. Yeah,

1402
01:07:47,013 --> 01:07:49,213
Speaker 9: but it doesn't matter whether it was conserved or not.

1403
01:07:50,493 --> 01:07:51,653
Speaker 9: Have a look at the direction.

1404
01:07:51,933 --> 01:07:54,613
Speaker 2: Why are you why are you so keen to judge

1405
01:07:54,653 --> 01:07:56,653
Speaker 2: them for it without any you know, why are you?

1406
01:07:57,373 --> 01:08:00,373
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not judging them. I'm saying in any

1407
01:08:00,493 --> 01:08:05,293
Speaker 9: other situation, we'd all had the perception that the guy's

1408
01:08:05,293 --> 01:08:07,373
Speaker 9: a drop kick for doing that to a young kid.

1409
01:08:07,533 --> 01:08:09,893
Speaker 2: And that was my next well, that was my message

1410
01:08:10,053 --> 01:08:10,973
Speaker 2: at the end of the day.

1411
01:08:11,493 --> 01:08:14,293
Speaker 9: At the end of the day, Now we know that

1412
01:08:14,453 --> 01:08:17,213
Speaker 9: he is it wasn't a millionaire, whatever he was, whatever,

1413
01:08:17,653 --> 01:08:21,933
Speaker 9: whoever he you know, he's been judged right, and so

1414
01:08:22,093 --> 01:08:23,692
Speaker 9: what and so what he did. He had no other

1415
01:08:23,853 --> 01:08:27,812
Speaker 9: choice but to go back and say sorry. Now, he

1416
01:08:27,893 --> 01:08:29,732
Speaker 9: didn't have to do that, because if he felt that

1417
01:08:29,853 --> 01:08:33,652
Speaker 9: he was in the right in the first place, then

1418
01:08:33,692 --> 01:08:35,492
Speaker 9: he should have held on to what he believed in

1419
01:08:36,173 --> 01:08:38,372
Speaker 9: and what he believed in he snatched the hat.

1420
01:08:38,812 --> 01:08:39,492
Speaker 13: Have a look at the.

1421
01:08:39,893 --> 01:08:42,412
Speaker 9: Direction of the of the tennis player's left hand and

1422
01:08:42,532 --> 01:08:45,572
Speaker 9: the direction in which he gave the hat headed to

1423
01:08:45,652 --> 01:08:48,133
Speaker 9: the young boy. It went to his right, not to

1424
01:08:48,213 --> 01:08:50,532
Speaker 9: the not to the adult. Check it out.

1425
01:08:50,732 --> 01:08:52,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I've watched it a number of times,

1426
01:08:52,372 --> 01:08:54,732
Speaker 2: and you can you can interpret a number way. The

1427
01:08:54,772 --> 01:08:56,213
Speaker 2: way I see is that he can't. He's not really

1428
01:08:56,213 --> 01:08:57,612
Speaker 2: looking at the kid. The kids are lots more of

1429
01:08:57,612 --> 01:08:59,972
Speaker 2: than and he's a huge tennis fan. He's very excited.

1430
01:09:00,532 --> 01:09:03,612
Speaker 9: That's why. Okay, that's why I say, have a look

1431
01:09:03,612 --> 01:09:05,572
Speaker 9: at the direction in which he handed the young boy

1432
01:09:05,692 --> 01:09:06,412
Speaker 9: the hat. Yeah.

1433
01:09:06,452 --> 01:09:07,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've looked at it, and I don't. I don't

1434
01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:09,612
Speaker 2: see it the way you do. But I think the

1435
01:09:09,652 --> 01:09:12,133
Speaker 2: reason why he he the reason why this that the

1436
01:09:12,933 --> 01:09:16,012
Speaker 2: Polish CEO has said he gave it back is because

1437
01:09:16,133 --> 01:09:18,173
Speaker 2: even though he didn't see that the kid wanted it,

1438
01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:20,173
Speaker 2: he felt bad because the kid was hurt and the

1439
01:09:20,253 --> 01:09:22,772
Speaker 2: kid was upset. So that was his reasoning for giving

1440
01:09:22,812 --> 01:09:23,892
Speaker 2: the hat to the kid.

1441
01:09:23,933 --> 01:09:27,692
Speaker 9: You know, does it make it doesn't make it better?

1442
01:09:28,013 --> 01:09:30,852
Speaker 9: Does it make that? Does it make the situation better? Yeah?

1443
01:09:31,213 --> 01:09:33,412
Speaker 2: I think I think it does. I think if anything,

1444
01:09:33,652 --> 01:09:36,893
Speaker 2: if you take into account his history and his apology,

1445
01:09:37,572 --> 01:09:40,293
Speaker 2: and I think you can have you can err on

1446
01:09:40,372 --> 01:09:42,572
Speaker 2: the side of just believing him and having an open

1447
01:09:42,612 --> 01:09:43,812
Speaker 2: heart to what he says.

1448
01:09:43,853 --> 01:09:47,173
Speaker 18: You know, Okay, so I'll just end this and say this, Yep,

1449
01:09:47,532 --> 01:09:51,133
Speaker 18: if he is who he says he is now, he

1450
01:09:51,173 --> 01:09:53,933
Speaker 18: could have easily have settled everything and just paid for

1451
01:09:53,973 --> 01:09:54,492
Speaker 18: a headache.

1452
01:09:54,933 --> 01:09:56,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on your day, he did. He did

1453
01:09:57,013 --> 01:09:59,532
Speaker 2: give him. He did give him. I mean, paying for

1454
01:09:59,572 --> 01:10:01,572
Speaker 2: the hats one thing, but he wanted the hat that

1455
01:10:01,732 --> 01:10:04,013
Speaker 2: was specially from the player. You know how we get

1456
01:10:04,053 --> 01:10:06,532
Speaker 2: about that. But good on your Dougie for having having

1457
01:10:06,572 --> 01:10:07,812
Speaker 2: that opinion, a strong opinion.

1458
01:10:08,372 --> 01:10:11,052
Speaker 3: But then it comes back to, even if Dougie said

1459
01:10:11,173 --> 01:10:13,412
Speaker 3: he was snatching the hat, and that's what Dougie believed,

1460
01:10:13,452 --> 01:10:16,812
Speaker 3: does it really deserve to have your life pulled apart

1461
01:10:17,013 --> 01:10:20,053
Speaker 3: by the internet over that transgression, Because that is what's

1462
01:10:20,173 --> 01:10:23,333
Speaker 3: happening right now. They are digging into every part of

1463
01:10:23,452 --> 01:10:27,372
Speaker 3: this gentleman's life. They are bombing his business with negative reviews.

1464
01:10:27,412 --> 01:10:30,173
Speaker 3: I mean that seems like quite a punishment. Even if

1465
01:10:30,253 --> 01:10:32,612
Speaker 3: Dougie's right that he did snatch the hat bit, I

1466
01:10:32,692 --> 01:10:33,652
Speaker 3: know you believe he didn't.

1467
01:10:34,173 --> 01:10:37,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't like what's more believable, right, what's

1468
01:10:37,732 --> 01:10:40,652
Speaker 2: more believable is this guy who's done all these nice

1469
01:10:40,692 --> 01:10:42,772
Speaker 2: things in his life, he's there with his wife and kids,

1470
01:10:44,572 --> 01:10:46,892
Speaker 2: just decided to rip a hat off a small child

1471
01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:50,372
Speaker 2: before the true child get it, or that the footage

1472
01:10:50,532 --> 01:10:52,333
Speaker 2: just makes them look bad and there's more to it

1473
01:10:52,372 --> 01:10:53,013
Speaker 2: in the background, Like.

1474
01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:55,213
Speaker 3: Just what's more believable, alkins raiser.

1475
01:10:55,412 --> 01:10:55,612
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1476
01:10:55,652 --> 01:10:57,732
Speaker 2: I mean so some people see that and it changes

1477
01:10:57,772 --> 01:11:01,133
Speaker 2: their perspectionion because they just believe that he's a piece

1478
01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:03,372
Speaker 2: of crap. They see this rich guy and they think

1479
01:11:03,452 --> 01:11:07,253
Speaker 2: he's just more likely do it. It just doesn't seem

1480
01:11:08,213 --> 01:11:12,732
Speaker 2: just can't believe that that is the the most logical

1481
01:11:14,893 --> 01:11:18,213
Speaker 2: assumption to make from the footage unless you've got some

1482
01:11:18,452 --> 01:11:22,973
Speaker 2: preconceived perception and some anger you want to get out

1483
01:11:22,973 --> 01:11:23,813
Speaker 2: of your system.

1484
01:11:23,532 --> 01:11:25,692
Speaker 3: And clearly there's a lot of that. The text of

1485
01:11:25,893 --> 01:11:28,372
Speaker 3: are smoking at the moment. But oh, one hundred and

1486
01:11:28,372 --> 01:11:31,452
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call back very shortly.

1487
01:11:31,532 --> 01:11:34,933
Speaker 3: It is eleven to three the issues that affect.

1488
01:11:34,612 --> 01:11:36,492
Speaker 2: You and a bit of fun along the way.

1489
01:11:36,772 --> 01:11:39,612
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News.

1490
01:11:39,452 --> 01:11:42,652
Speaker 3: Talks B, News Talks There B it is eight to three.

1491
01:11:43,013 --> 01:11:45,452
Speaker 2: Text between surely changed. Now now I'd say we're probably

1492
01:11:45,853 --> 01:11:50,213
Speaker 2: sixty five percent pro the Polish CEO. You've turned and

1493
01:11:50,772 --> 01:11:53,492
Speaker 2: people and it's really dropped off the people. As people

1494
01:11:53,492 --> 01:11:55,412
Speaker 2: watch the video again, I say he needs to be

1495
01:11:55,532 --> 01:11:57,932
Speaker 2: tied to a gun carriage, then taken to the center

1496
01:11:57,973 --> 01:12:01,492
Speaker 2: of town and we all start stand around yelling shame, shame, shame.

1497
01:12:01,652 --> 01:12:04,412
Speaker 2: Like Game of Thrones, we would all feel better afterwards. Yeah,

1498
01:12:04,412 --> 01:12:06,772
Speaker 2: it looks march them through King's Landing and the nude

1499
01:12:07,452 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 2: Tony welcome to the show.

1500
01:12:10,333 --> 01:12:10,492
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1501
01:12:11,013 --> 01:12:14,293
Speaker 12: If you watch that video with no understanding of anything,

1502
01:12:14,853 --> 01:12:18,253
Speaker 12: straight away, player takes the cap off and puts it

1503
01:12:18,293 --> 01:12:20,492
Speaker 12: in front of the kids. The said doesn't see it

1504
01:12:20,612 --> 01:12:23,213
Speaker 12: until after the guy has grabbed it. But if you

1505
01:12:23,333 --> 01:12:25,652
Speaker 12: think about the fact that the player's Polist, and so

1506
01:12:25,933 --> 01:12:29,333
Speaker 12: is the CEO, so all the seas and Polish is

1507
01:12:29,372 --> 01:12:32,013
Speaker 12: I'll grab that cap now and all thinking that the

1508
01:12:32,013 --> 01:12:33,852
Speaker 12: player doesn't even look. He just takes his cap off

1509
01:12:34,893 --> 01:12:37,013
Speaker 12: because they don't think it get caps away ahead of it.

1510
01:12:37,093 --> 01:12:40,372
Speaker 12: I've seen the serial way that the people react when

1511
01:12:40,612 --> 01:12:44,852
Speaker 12: player it's finisher match. They throw risks and how and

1512
01:12:45,173 --> 01:12:49,932
Speaker 12: and and it's in the crowd, actually are They'll tell them,

1513
01:12:50,133 --> 01:12:52,173
Speaker 12: give me a spirit, give me a pale, give me

1514
01:12:52,293 --> 01:12:54,933
Speaker 12: your hand ban, give me a hat. And it's not

1515
01:12:55,053 --> 01:12:57,452
Speaker 12: about the player. It's not the player that then it's

1516
01:12:57,452 --> 01:13:01,452
Speaker 12: these They just go feral over one thing, free skips

1517
01:13:01,492 --> 01:13:06,532
Speaker 12: from the players, And I feel well, yeah, because well,

1518
01:13:06,612 --> 01:13:08,612
Speaker 12: how can I appease my fans when I've got to

1519
01:13:08,652 --> 01:13:10,572
Speaker 12: give all the stuff away and then when you give

1520
01:13:10,612 --> 01:13:13,093
Speaker 12: it to one and not another, I'll put them, or

1521
01:13:13,133 --> 01:13:15,253
Speaker 12: they'll abuse them, or they'll come back of them. And

1522
01:13:15,532 --> 01:13:18,732
Speaker 12: it is just that kids who went off on a

1523
01:13:18,812 --> 01:13:22,173
Speaker 12: candor if I was his parent, and if you want

1524
01:13:22,213 --> 01:13:25,932
Speaker 12: it to be, you'll smack around the head on when

1525
01:13:25,973 --> 01:13:30,173
Speaker 12: he got out, thank.

1526
01:13:30,053 --> 01:13:32,732
Speaker 2: If you called Tony. I've seen Adam Zamper, the Australian cricketer,

1527
01:13:32,933 --> 01:13:35,572
Speaker 2: handing stuff out over to fans and he ended up

1528
01:13:35,652 --> 01:13:39,932
Speaker 2: just in his undies. He handed absolutely everything his shirt

1529
01:13:40,452 --> 01:13:43,932
Speaker 2: right down to his undies, his his cricket shoes, his socks,

1530
01:13:44,412 --> 01:13:48,452
Speaker 2: his wristband, his pants and his pads, the whole thing

1531
01:13:48,532 --> 01:13:49,173
Speaker 2: in his box.

1532
01:13:49,253 --> 01:13:50,012
Speaker 3: That is commitment.

1533
01:13:50,532 --> 01:13:51,732
Speaker 2: And he walked off in his undies.

1534
01:13:52,253 --> 01:13:52,932
Speaker 3: What a good man.

1535
01:13:53,692 --> 01:13:55,972
Speaker 2: Dean. You're on the other side of this. You think

1536
01:13:55,973 --> 01:13:58,093
Speaker 2: the hat grabber deserves to be burned at the stake?

1537
01:13:58,213 --> 01:13:58,772
Speaker 2: Is that corrector?

1538
01:14:00,572 --> 01:14:04,293
Speaker 11: I cannot believe that you guys are making excuses me

1539
01:14:05,893 --> 01:14:07,293
Speaker 11: for a bully and a thief.

1540
01:14:07,412 --> 01:14:10,452
Speaker 2: Who's the which one of the or the the the CEO?

1541
01:14:11,412 --> 01:14:14,972
Speaker 11: Come on, Come on, a CEO, a bully and the thief.

1542
01:14:15,412 --> 01:14:18,532
Speaker 11: And if it was all legit, why did he quickly

1543
01:14:18,652 --> 01:14:20,372
Speaker 11: hide it away passages.

1544
01:14:20,893 --> 01:14:22,772
Speaker 2: Because that was for his kids that were there, So

1545
01:14:22,893 --> 01:14:24,812
Speaker 2: he put it in the bag and for his kids.

1546
01:14:25,293 --> 01:14:28,333
Speaker 11: To him, he knew what he was doing. And you're

1547
01:14:28,412 --> 01:14:31,492
Speaker 11: making excuses for him because he's rich, he's okay.

1548
01:14:34,612 --> 01:14:38,772
Speaker 2: You seem to think no, no, no, Dean. I don't

1549
01:14:38,772 --> 01:14:40,532
Speaker 2: think it's which he's okay. I just don't think he

1550
01:14:40,572 --> 01:14:43,892
Speaker 2: should be condemned primarily because he's rich, because the fact

1551
01:14:43,933 --> 01:14:45,973
Speaker 2: that he's a wealthy CEO seems to be at the

1552
01:14:46,013 --> 01:14:48,212
Speaker 2: top of every comment before they go down to the snatching.

1553
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:49,973
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, yeah, do you know do you

1554
01:14:50,053 --> 01:14:50,452
Speaker 2: know why?

1555
01:14:51,452 --> 01:14:54,253
Speaker 11: Because he didn't need that, He's got plenty, and he

1556
01:14:54,372 --> 01:14:55,293
Speaker 11: takes it off some point.

1557
01:14:55,412 --> 01:14:55,572
Speaker 9: Kid.

1558
01:14:55,692 --> 01:14:57,093
Speaker 2: Do you think that that kid at the front of

1559
01:14:57,173 --> 01:15:00,133
Speaker 2: the US Open as a privileged child that desperately needs

1560
01:15:00,213 --> 01:15:01,892
Speaker 2: a hat, or do you think that maybe that kid

1561
01:15:02,173 --> 01:15:04,652
Speaker 2: is from a reasonably wealthy family himself and he's got

1562
01:15:04,692 --> 01:15:05,812
Speaker 2: the bets available.

1563
01:15:06,812 --> 01:15:08,293
Speaker 11: That goes, That goes pretty well.

1564
01:15:08,692 --> 01:15:10,852
Speaker 4: But I saw what I saw.

1565
01:15:11,333 --> 01:15:13,652
Speaker 11: He took it off the kid, he hid it away,

1566
01:15:13,812 --> 01:15:16,012
Speaker 11: passed it to his wife, and stashed it in the bag.

1567
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:19,053
Speaker 2: There you go, Maybe you saw what you wanted to

1568
01:15:19,093 --> 01:15:20,893
Speaker 2: see and maybe that's it, and maybe I saw what

1569
01:15:20,973 --> 01:15:22,892
Speaker 2: I wanted to see. I mean, initially, when I first

1570
01:15:22,893 --> 01:15:25,053
Speaker 2: saw it, I got angry like Dean was, and I

1571
01:15:25,093 --> 01:15:26,772
Speaker 2: wanted to get a pitchfork and go over there and

1572
01:15:28,372 --> 01:15:30,013
Speaker 2: get revenge on the guy. Then I wanted a few

1573
01:15:30,053 --> 01:15:32,812
Speaker 2: more times with an open heart, yes, And then I thought, look,

1574
01:15:32,853 --> 01:15:35,052
Speaker 2: there's a lot of mitigating circumstances. And then I found

1575
01:15:35,093 --> 01:15:36,532
Speaker 2: out that he did a lot of charity work back

1576
01:15:36,572 --> 01:15:38,012
Speaker 2: in Poland, and I found out what a big tennis

1577
01:15:38,053 --> 01:15:40,333
Speaker 2: fan he was, and I found out that the player

1578
01:15:40,412 --> 01:15:41,572
Speaker 2: had said that he was going to give him a

1579
01:15:41,612 --> 01:15:42,452
Speaker 2: hat in Polish.

1580
01:15:42,973 --> 01:15:44,973
Speaker 3: Well, it was a great discussion. It started off with

1581
01:15:45,013 --> 01:15:48,812
Speaker 3: the pitchforks and the torches, and I think you've turned

1582
01:15:48,812 --> 01:15:50,812
Speaker 3: a few people, Matt. They started to come through now

1583
01:15:50,853 --> 01:15:52,333
Speaker 3: and say, give the guy a break. He didn't do

1584
01:15:52,372 --> 01:15:52,932
Speaker 3: anything wrong.

1585
01:15:53,412 --> 01:15:53,612
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1586
01:15:53,772 --> 01:15:55,812
Speaker 2: Well, I just think we should be careful when we

1587
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:59,652
Speaker 2: judge so so harshly we get the pitchfork out so quickly.

1588
01:15:59,853 --> 01:16:00,053
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1589
01:16:00,612 --> 01:16:03,492
Speaker 3: Love a great discussion. Thank you to everybody who called

1590
01:16:03,532 --> 01:16:07,172
Speaker 3: and text on that one. Coming up after, Oh, Heather's outside,

1591
01:16:07,213 --> 01:16:08,852
Speaker 3: she wants to say somebody to you, Mat, you're in trouble.

1592
01:16:08,853 --> 01:16:10,612
Speaker 2: I think Hellen doesn't agree with me.

1593
01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:12,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's pointing right here, mate, this is going to

1594
01:16:12,652 --> 01:16:14,652
Speaker 3: be good. Bring it on right. We'll keep you updated

1595
01:16:14,692 --> 01:16:16,732
Speaker 3: with that. But coming up after three o'clock, we want

1596
01:16:16,732 --> 01:16:19,333
Speaker 3: to talk about Father's Day. What is the perfect gift

1597
01:16:19,612 --> 01:16:22,133
Speaker 3: for Father's Day? If you're a dare it is three

1598
01:16:22,173 --> 01:16:23,972
Speaker 3: minutes two three, Do you have a hat off a kit?

1599
01:16:27,812 --> 01:16:31,133
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heath and Taylor

1600
01:16:31,173 --> 01:16:33,452
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talks.

1601
01:16:33,492 --> 01:16:37,532
Speaker 3: It'd be good day to you. Welcome back into the show.

1602
01:16:37,732 --> 01:16:40,532
Speaker 3: Just before we get into the next topic, hither do police?

1603
01:16:40,652 --> 01:16:43,492
Speaker 3: Allen the drive host on News Talks. Thereb just came

1604
01:16:43,612 --> 01:16:45,253
Speaker 3: storming in here during the news break.

1605
01:16:45,173 --> 01:16:49,133
Speaker 2: The poor Homes broadcaster of the year here incredibly.

1606
01:16:48,652 --> 01:16:52,972
Speaker 3: Good broadcast, Great New Zealander and had a very heated

1607
01:16:53,013 --> 01:16:56,492
Speaker 3: discussion with you, Matt Heath, over the old alleged hat

1608
01:16:56,572 --> 01:17:00,133
Speaker 3: snatcher and whether the video did show that there was

1609
01:17:00,173 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 3: some hat snatching going on or whether lest it was

1610
01:17:03,013 --> 01:17:03,372
Speaker 3: hard dune.

1611
01:17:03,692 --> 01:17:05,933
Speaker 2: Let's say, let's just say we share a lot of

1612
01:17:05,933 --> 01:17:08,173
Speaker 2: common ground on something issues, but this isn't one of

1613
01:17:08,213 --> 01:17:10,652
Speaker 2: the Yeah, this is we couldn't be more polar opposite

1614
01:17:10,652 --> 01:17:12,012
Speaker 2: in that view of that it was heated.

1615
01:17:12,053 --> 01:17:13,253
Speaker 3: I had to get out of here pretty quick and

1616
01:17:13,333 --> 01:17:15,412
Speaker 3: leave those two to it. But God, we love a

1617
01:17:15,452 --> 01:17:18,093
Speaker 3: bit of passion, right, this is going to be great chat.

1618
01:17:18,173 --> 01:17:21,652
Speaker 3: So Father's Day, as we know, is coming up on Sunday,

1619
01:17:21,772 --> 01:17:25,372
Speaker 3: and traditionally Dad's can be hard to buy for when

1620
01:17:25,412 --> 01:17:27,133
Speaker 3: it comes to Dad's Day in terms of a gift.

1621
01:17:28,213 --> 01:17:30,333
Speaker 3: But there was an article that was posted on the

1622
01:17:30,452 --> 01:17:34,852
Speaker 3: Herald about ideas gift ideas for Father's Day for under

1623
01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:35,532
Speaker 3: fifty bucks.

1624
01:17:35,973 --> 01:17:39,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we're doing this today. We're getting to

1625
01:17:39,253 --> 01:17:41,532
Speaker 2: do it yesterday, but we got too many calls and

1626
01:17:41,572 --> 01:17:43,452
Speaker 2: text to get to the topic. But I think it's

1627
01:17:43,492 --> 01:17:47,932
Speaker 2: important to do this in advance of Sunday.

1628
01:17:48,133 --> 01:17:48,333
Speaker 3: Yep.

1629
01:17:48,612 --> 01:17:51,572
Speaker 2: So you've got time to get your father the present

1630
01:17:51,652 --> 01:17:55,173
Speaker 2: that that that you think he'll like, you know, rather

1631
01:17:55,213 --> 01:17:57,412
Speaker 2: than worrying about it all week. Right, Yes, last minute

1632
01:17:57,452 --> 01:17:58,012
Speaker 2: type situation.

1633
01:17:58,093 --> 01:17:58,612
Speaker 3: Get in early.

1634
01:17:58,732 --> 01:18:01,293
Speaker 2: But I'm looking through this list of twenty five gifts

1635
01:18:01,492 --> 01:18:04,812
Speaker 2: and I'm a father and I wouldn't want any of them,

1636
01:18:06,133 --> 01:18:08,133
Speaker 2: and I think I think this is a you know,

1637
01:18:08,213 --> 01:18:09,612
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. On eight hundred and

1638
01:18:09,652 --> 01:18:11,492
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty as a father, what you want as

1639
01:18:11,532 --> 01:18:14,253
Speaker 2: a gift, any great presence you've got on Father's Day.

1640
01:18:14,812 --> 01:18:17,652
Speaker 2: But I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding on what fathers want.

1641
01:18:18,253 --> 01:18:20,732
Speaker 2: And from my perspective and every father I know, we

1642
01:18:20,812 --> 01:18:24,812
Speaker 2: don't want presents from anyone. That's not what we want. Yeah,

1643
01:18:25,093 --> 01:18:28,213
Speaker 2: you know, we're happy we can buy ourselves stuff. You know,

1644
01:18:28,532 --> 01:18:30,173
Speaker 2: we don't want presents for Father's Day. That's not what

1645
01:18:30,253 --> 01:18:32,933
Speaker 2: it's about. We just want maybe a little thank you

1646
01:18:33,053 --> 01:18:35,293
Speaker 2: for all you do, maybe a cuddle in the morning,

1647
01:18:35,812 --> 01:18:39,973
Speaker 2: maybe some breakfast from someone, and then you do what

1648
01:18:40,093 --> 01:18:41,333
Speaker 2: you want to do for the rest of the day.

1649
01:18:41,812 --> 01:18:43,452
Speaker 2: A whole pass for the rest of the day. You

1650
01:18:43,612 --> 01:18:45,572
Speaker 2: just go be you for the rest of the day,

1651
01:18:45,812 --> 01:18:47,732
Speaker 2: go and play golf with your buddies all day, go

1652
01:18:47,853 --> 01:18:50,053
Speaker 2: out to the pub and hang out. We just want

1653
01:18:50,053 --> 01:18:54,372
Speaker 2: to day potentially, and this might be controversial for Father's Day.

1654
01:18:54,452 --> 01:18:57,013
Speaker 2: We don't want anything but to maybe spend a day

1655
01:18:57,053 --> 01:18:57,612
Speaker 2: not being a father.

1656
01:18:58,013 --> 01:19:00,812
Speaker 3: It's just pure you time, leave dad alone and let

1657
01:19:00,853 --> 01:19:01,612
Speaker 3: me do what I want to do.

1658
01:19:01,893 --> 01:19:06,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this suggestion here a kinto at qua

1659
01:19:06,732 --> 01:19:07,492
Speaker 2: culture vase.

1660
01:19:08,333 --> 01:19:09,412
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is, but.

1661
01:19:11,173 --> 01:19:15,612
Speaker 2: A gentleman's hardware, stainless steel, have flask. No Lego Speed

1662
01:19:15,772 --> 01:19:18,932
Speaker 2: Champions Ferrari. No, you're not going to buy that one,

1663
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:20,492
Speaker 2: the forty four to ninety nine one. If you're going

1664
01:19:20,532 --> 01:19:23,093
Speaker 2: to buy Lego if one, you're gonna have to just

1665
01:19:23,093 --> 01:19:23,932
Speaker 2: spend four hundred bucks.

1666
01:19:24,013 --> 01:19:27,452
Speaker 3: Yea, I'm afraid a jar of fats, some beef Tello.

1667
01:19:27,532 --> 01:19:29,732
Speaker 3: They've suggested you want some beef tellow for Father's Day.

1668
01:19:29,933 --> 01:19:31,293
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't know a bit of beef Tello. I

1669
01:19:31,412 --> 01:19:32,932
Speaker 2: run out on my face, you know, rub a lot

1670
01:19:32,933 --> 01:19:36,053
Speaker 2: of beef dellow on my face. Best dad ever trophy Snow. No,

1671
01:19:36,372 --> 01:19:38,973
Speaker 2: I don't want that, absolutely, I do not want that.

1672
01:19:39,173 --> 01:19:41,933
Speaker 2: Novelty socks, No, thank you. I just want to be

1673
01:19:43,133 --> 01:19:44,013
Speaker 2: myself for a day.

1674
01:19:44,452 --> 01:19:47,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, you're like this one, the sixteen dollar Frank

1675
01:19:47,053 --> 01:19:49,973
Speaker 3: Green designed Pip Poo bag holder. You wouldn't say no

1676
01:19:50,013 --> 01:19:50,492
Speaker 3: to that, would you?

1677
01:19:51,093 --> 01:19:51,692
Speaker 2: I would.

1678
01:19:53,013 --> 01:19:53,053
Speaker 12: No.

1679
01:19:53,213 --> 01:19:55,572
Speaker 2: Actually, now look, look, I wouldn't say no to anything

1680
01:19:55,612 --> 01:19:59,893
Speaker 2: any present. I'd appreciate it, and that thought's amazing. But

1681
01:20:00,013 --> 01:20:03,612
Speaker 2: I just think it's a fund of mental misunderstanding of

1682
01:20:03,893 --> 01:20:07,612
Speaker 2: from a father's perspective, And I'd like to hear where

1683
01:20:07,612 --> 01:20:09,173
Speaker 2: the people agree with me this on our eight hundred

1684
01:20:09,173 --> 01:20:12,812
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty, But we don't want anything. Maybe

1685
01:20:12,893 --> 01:20:16,492
Speaker 2: some breakfast and then and then just maybe I love you, Dad,

1686
01:20:16,692 --> 01:20:19,013
Speaker 2: You're great dad, And then you go for you for

1687
01:20:19,093 --> 01:20:19,412
Speaker 2: the day.

1688
01:20:19,973 --> 01:20:23,093
Speaker 3: Sounds good, sounds peaceful. You do you Dad's Oh eight

1689
01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:25,133
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is that exactly what

1690
01:20:25,253 --> 01:20:27,692
Speaker 3: you want on Dad's Day? Just a bit of me time,

1691
01:20:27,893 --> 01:20:29,933
Speaker 3: really keen to hear from you. And also, what was

1692
01:20:30,013 --> 01:20:31,932
Speaker 3: the best Father's Day gift you ever got? It might

1693
01:20:32,013 --> 01:20:35,333
Speaker 3: be that I'm not reading that text out that would

1694
01:20:35,333 --> 01:20:37,173
Speaker 3: be a good day though there's some truth in it. Yeah,

1695
01:20:37,173 --> 01:20:38,732
Speaker 3: And that would be a really good Dad's Day.

1696
01:20:39,532 --> 01:20:41,732
Speaker 2: And when I've been that text, I mean those two

1697
01:20:41,853 --> 01:20:44,612
Speaker 2: hundred text on that subject, eleven past three, there is

1698
01:20:44,652 --> 01:20:45,213
Speaker 2: some truth to it.

1699
01:20:45,973 --> 01:20:49,772
Speaker 3: Us talk sa'd be thirteen past three. Father's Day is Sunday,

1700
01:20:49,853 --> 01:20:51,333
Speaker 3: So we get in a little bit ahead of the

1701
01:20:51,412 --> 01:20:53,852
Speaker 3: curve to put it out to you. What does the

1702
01:20:54,053 --> 01:20:56,133
Speaker 3: perfect Father's Day look like for you if you're a

1703
01:20:56,253 --> 01:20:58,253
Speaker 3: dad and for your family as well, for the mom's

1704
01:20:58,293 --> 01:21:00,253
Speaker 3: out there, what do you think is the perfect day

1705
01:21:00,333 --> 01:21:01,333
Speaker 3: for the dad in your life?

1706
01:21:01,412 --> 01:21:03,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've just read a list of twenty five

1707
01:21:03,612 --> 01:21:06,852
Speaker 2: things that I definitely don't want Father's Day. So that's

1708
01:21:06,893 --> 01:21:08,053
Speaker 2: in the Herald if you want to look at it up.

1709
01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:11,973
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, good on you who wrote the

1710
01:21:12,053 --> 01:21:15,532
Speaker 2: article making a good e fit in there. But just

1711
01:21:15,572 --> 01:21:18,053
Speaker 2: for me personally that I just want to be me

1712
01:21:18,253 --> 01:21:18,692
Speaker 2: for the day.

1713
01:21:18,772 --> 01:21:21,293
Speaker 3: There was some woofers in there. Absolutely I agree with Matt.

1714
01:21:21,412 --> 01:21:24,133
Speaker 2: We just want something simple like being allowed to play

1715
01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:26,732
Speaker 2: golf with our mates without feeling guilty for the day.

1716
01:21:26,933 --> 01:21:28,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good day.

1717
01:21:28,253 --> 01:21:30,892
Speaker 2: Breakfast is a text, maybe a hug. Then just let

1718
01:21:31,013 --> 01:21:35,492
Speaker 2: me watch sport all day. I want to have first

1719
01:21:35,572 --> 01:21:37,692
Speaker 2: DIBs on the bathroom and be allowed to sit in

1720
01:21:37,772 --> 01:21:39,772
Speaker 2: there as long as I like Jackpot.

1721
01:21:39,893 --> 01:21:42,892
Speaker 3: Now you're talking. Now you're talking simple people.

1722
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:45,612
Speaker 2: Dad's whole day in the bathroom. Paul, welcome with the show.

1723
01:21:46,492 --> 01:21:47,893
Speaker 9: Good eight, good a.

1724
01:21:48,053 --> 01:21:48,333
Speaker 3: How are you?

1725
01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:49,412
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1726
01:21:49,492 --> 01:21:52,013
Speaker 2: Good, not bad at all. What's your dream Father's Day?

1727
01:21:52,732 --> 01:21:52,812
Speaker 12: Oh?

1728
01:21:52,973 --> 01:21:53,972
Speaker 9: Just hanging out with the kids.

1729
01:21:54,772 --> 01:21:58,133
Speaker 19: Actually, particularly you know nowadays lots of families have got

1730
01:21:58,173 --> 01:22:01,012
Speaker 19: parents that are apart, So I think that's the best

1731
01:22:01,053 --> 01:22:03,452
Speaker 19: thing for me, is just a time with I've only

1732
01:22:03,492 --> 01:22:06,492
Speaker 19: got one son, but with my son and he's twenty now,

1733
01:22:06,612 --> 01:22:08,572
Speaker 19: so I still get lots of time with them, and

1734
01:22:08,692 --> 01:22:10,532
Speaker 19: you know, we get to play golf for you know,

1735
01:22:10,973 --> 01:22:13,532
Speaker 19: go and have a drink or a meal, and I reckon,

1736
01:22:13,612 --> 01:22:14,452
Speaker 19: it's just the best thing ever.

1737
01:22:15,053 --> 01:22:17,412
Speaker 2: So you basically you don't need your son to buy

1738
01:22:17,492 --> 01:22:20,293
Speaker 2: you a present or anything. You just need to him

1739
01:22:20,412 --> 01:22:22,293
Speaker 2: to be hey, dad, John to hang out for the day.

1740
01:22:23,013 --> 01:22:23,572
Speaker 14: Yeah, you got it.

1741
01:22:23,652 --> 01:22:26,372
Speaker 9: That's arg's beautiful bit of money.

1742
01:22:26,612 --> 01:22:30,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because a little trinket doesn't really mean

1743
01:22:30,213 --> 01:22:33,372
Speaker 2: much or a little or someone spending their time deciding

1744
01:22:33,492 --> 01:22:37,013
Speaker 2: what you might perusing some shelves or something, chances of

1745
01:22:37,093 --> 01:22:39,852
Speaker 2: getting it right and minimal. But yeah, you just want

1746
01:22:39,893 --> 01:22:41,652
Speaker 2: to I mean, that's that's you know, that actually makes

1747
01:22:41,692 --> 01:22:42,492
Speaker 2: me feel quite emotional.

1748
01:22:42,572 --> 01:22:42,772
Speaker 6: Paul.

1749
01:22:42,772 --> 01:22:44,732
Speaker 2: It's such a that's such a beautiful concept.

1750
01:22:45,572 --> 01:22:46,013
Speaker 9: Oh, thank you.

1751
01:22:46,412 --> 01:22:47,772
Speaker 3: And what what do you reckon you'll be doing with

1752
01:22:47,812 --> 01:22:50,892
Speaker 3: your boy on Sunday? Paul, Well, I'm.

1753
01:22:50,772 --> 01:22:52,652
Speaker 19: Hoping you'll want to play golf because you'll thrash me.

1754
01:22:52,772 --> 01:22:55,652
Speaker 19: And you know then I'm proud of I'm a terrible golfer,

1755
01:22:55,732 --> 01:22:56,412
Speaker 19: but I don't care.

1756
01:22:57,732 --> 01:23:00,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the great things about being

1757
01:23:00,293 --> 01:23:02,612
Speaker 2: a dad is you slowly watch your kids, your son's

1758
01:23:03,013 --> 01:23:05,812
Speaker 2: you know, your kids surpass you and and you don't

1759
01:23:05,853 --> 01:23:07,972
Speaker 2: have to feel shame or you feel is pride.

1760
01:23:08,492 --> 01:23:08,933
Speaker 12: You're like that.

1761
01:23:09,093 --> 01:23:12,173
Speaker 2: I mean every time my eldest son smashes me at

1762
01:23:12,173 --> 01:23:14,852
Speaker 2: any kind of sporting event, I just go at least

1763
01:23:14,893 --> 01:23:15,452
Speaker 2: I produce this.

1764
01:23:15,732 --> 01:23:17,852
Speaker 3: You know, that's a good drive son. We'll proud of that.

1765
01:23:18,412 --> 01:23:20,213
Speaker 9: Yeah, some of my DNA's in there right, it's really

1766
01:23:20,253 --> 01:23:20,612
Speaker 9: good news.

1767
01:23:21,612 --> 01:23:23,372
Speaker 3: Love it, Paul, Thank you very much for giving us

1768
01:23:23,372 --> 01:23:25,293
Speaker 3: a buzz oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty For

1769
01:23:25,372 --> 01:23:27,452
Speaker 3: the dad's out there. What does the perfect Father's Day

1770
01:23:27,492 --> 01:23:29,532
Speaker 3: look like for you? And what is the best gift

1771
01:23:29,612 --> 01:23:31,293
Speaker 3: that you've ever had in the years? Really can to

1772
01:23:31,293 --> 01:23:32,812
Speaker 3: ever chat with you guys?

1773
01:23:32,853 --> 01:23:35,412
Speaker 2: Far too much advertising inphasis on Father's Day. Can only

1774
01:23:35,492 --> 01:23:37,892
Speaker 2: be celebrated if you give dad a gift, if you're

1775
01:23:38,053 --> 01:23:40,572
Speaker 2: if they're younger children not earning, you know that mums

1776
01:23:40,612 --> 01:23:43,492
Speaker 2: pay for anyway. The fathers I remember best were the

1777
01:23:43,572 --> 01:23:46,652
Speaker 2: whole day with the kids, had organized things, games, walk,

1778
01:23:46,732 --> 01:23:49,173
Speaker 2: maybe just having a coffee somewhere. The important word is

1779
01:23:49,293 --> 01:23:51,133
Speaker 2: having together the time.

1780
01:23:51,333 --> 01:23:52,292
Speaker 3: That is beautiful.

1781
01:23:52,452 --> 01:23:52,692
Speaker 5: Love it.

1782
01:23:52,893 --> 01:23:55,013
Speaker 3: There you go, keep those teachs coming through. On nine

1783
01:23:55,133 --> 01:23:58,652
Speaker 3: two nine two, Chris, how are you get it.

1784
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:00,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, good.

1785
01:24:00,452 --> 01:24:03,133
Speaker 3: And Father's Day for you, what what are you hoping

1786
01:24:03,213 --> 01:24:04,572
Speaker 3: for or what do you reckon? It's going to look

1787
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:06,052
Speaker 3: like it's.

1788
01:24:05,973 --> 01:24:08,093
Speaker 16: Going to be my first Father's Day on Sunday, Oh

1789
01:24:08,412 --> 01:24:09,132
Speaker 16: we call boys.

1790
01:24:10,053 --> 01:24:13,652
Speaker 2: Well you won't be expecting a present from him, no,

1791
01:24:14,612 --> 01:24:14,852
Speaker 2: But I.

1792
01:24:14,893 --> 01:24:16,812
Speaker 16: Sort of just treat it the way I drink my birthday.

1793
01:24:16,812 --> 01:24:19,532
Speaker 16: I don't really like anything extravagant for my birthday, just

1794
01:24:20,133 --> 01:24:23,372
Speaker 16: something simple, like maybe even just the game you can

1795
01:24:23,412 --> 01:24:26,532
Speaker 16: play online with the boys, and even better the free

1796
01:24:26,572 --> 01:24:30,053
Speaker 16: time to actually play it without being bothered. But I

1797
01:24:30,173 --> 01:24:32,013
Speaker 16: didn't love what the previous call has said as well,

1798
01:24:32,093 --> 01:24:34,333
Speaker 16: like spending time with with my son. It's going to

1799
01:24:34,372 --> 01:24:35,812
Speaker 16: be something I'm definitely keen.

1800
01:24:35,732 --> 01:24:37,892
Speaker 6: To do as he is go by.

1801
01:24:38,372 --> 01:24:40,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. It's yeah, I mean this is going

1802
01:24:40,652 --> 01:24:42,933
Speaker 2: to be very a very new experience for you on

1803
01:24:43,053 --> 01:24:44,932
Speaker 2: Father's Day. Father's Day as a father.

1804
01:24:45,973 --> 01:24:46,293
Speaker 11: It is.

1805
01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:47,412
Speaker 16: I almost forgot about it.

1806
01:24:47,572 --> 01:24:49,412
Speaker 12: I want reminded me, and I was like, what do

1807
01:24:49,492 --> 01:24:49,892
Speaker 12: you want to do.

1808
01:24:49,933 --> 01:24:52,133
Speaker 5: For Father's Day. It's like, oh my goodness, I have

1809
01:24:52,253 --> 01:24:52,772
Speaker 5: no ideas.

1810
01:24:52,973 --> 01:24:56,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, make a list if it's anything like Mother's Day

1811
01:24:56,572 --> 01:25:01,372
Speaker 2: for the longest time that what the kids give has

1812
01:25:01,492 --> 01:25:05,012
Speaker 2: been orchestrated heavily in the background from from the other parent.

1813
01:25:06,652 --> 01:25:10,492
Speaker 2: So the first one when that's meaningful is when when

1814
01:25:10,612 --> 01:25:13,253
Speaker 2: they're old enough to make an effort on their own.

1815
01:25:13,732 --> 01:25:16,532
Speaker 2: And you know that by the rubbishness of the present

1816
01:25:16,652 --> 01:25:18,692
Speaker 2: that it's that's come from the end.

1817
01:25:18,772 --> 01:25:20,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mom didn't have anything to do with this one. Yeah,

1818
01:25:21,492 --> 01:25:22,372
Speaker 3: chrit of.

1819
01:25:22,412 --> 01:25:25,173
Speaker 2: Chris that well, the congratulations on being a father, and

1820
01:25:26,093 --> 01:25:28,772
Speaker 2: I hope you have a fantastic first Father's Day. Sound like,

1821
01:25:28,973 --> 01:25:30,972
Speaker 2: are you're going to be a fantastic dad going forward?

1822
01:25:31,293 --> 01:25:32,372
Speaker 16: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

1823
01:25:32,412 --> 01:25:34,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, enjoy that gaming mate. What game are you playing?

1824
01:25:34,293 --> 01:25:38,532
Speaker 6: By the way, Oh, there's a new one, Dying Light

1825
01:25:38,853 --> 01:25:41,532
Speaker 6: the Beast coming out soon, Dying Light the Beast.

1826
01:25:41,692 --> 01:25:43,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a good, solid six hour run for

1827
01:25:44,053 --> 01:25:45,612
Speaker 3: a new game, don't you at least sometimes?

1828
01:25:45,812 --> 01:25:48,053
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you're christ is eight month old son,

1829
01:25:48,173 --> 01:25:49,333
Speaker 2: then that's what you need to get him.

1830
01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:52,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, noted, Chris, Thank you very much. O. One hundred

1831
01:25:52,572 --> 01:25:54,532
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call Father's

1832
01:25:54,612 --> 01:25:56,572
Speaker 3: Day on Sunday for the dad's out there. What does

1833
01:25:56,612 --> 01:25:58,093
Speaker 3: the perfect day look like for you?

1834
01:25:58,772 --> 01:26:01,173
Speaker 2: Long single? It's to tuck into my undies to keep

1835
01:26:01,253 --> 01:26:02,852
Speaker 2: my kidneys warm. Thanks.

1836
01:26:03,093 --> 01:26:05,093
Speaker 3: It's a great gift. Yeah, I don't know what that is,

1837
01:26:05,173 --> 01:26:06,093
Speaker 3: but it's sound very cozy.

1838
01:26:06,173 --> 01:26:09,612
Speaker 2: I've publicly ouded my father for a tugging his matching

1839
01:26:10,053 --> 01:26:13,132
Speaker 2: jockey singlet into his jockey undie's on a number of occasions.

1840
01:26:13,133 --> 01:26:15,173
Speaker 2: It's a good luck and he doesn't like when.

1841
01:26:15,093 --> 01:26:15,333
Speaker 4: I do it.

1842
01:26:15,492 --> 01:26:17,812
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't like what I say that he does

1843
01:26:17,853 --> 01:26:19,572
Speaker 3: that you had to keep it going though. It's nineteen

1844
01:26:19,692 --> 01:26:20,372
Speaker 3: past three.

1845
01:26:24,253 --> 01:26:28,972
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call eight on Youth

1846
01:26:29,053 --> 01:26:29,812
Speaker 1: Talk ZB.

1847
01:26:29,812 --> 01:26:33,093
Speaker 3: Twenty two past three. Father's Day on Sunday. So for

1848
01:26:33,173 --> 01:26:35,173
Speaker 3: the dad's listening out there and for the mums as well,

1849
01:26:35,213 --> 01:26:37,612
Speaker 3: what does the perfect Father's Day look like?

1850
01:26:37,812 --> 01:26:41,133
Speaker 2: I've said that I don't want any presents. There's this

1851
01:26:41,253 --> 01:26:43,133
Speaker 2: article here. I don't want presents. I don't think my

1852
01:26:43,253 --> 01:26:45,412
Speaker 2: dads want presents. I don't think that we want. We're

1853
01:26:45,452 --> 01:26:48,372
Speaker 2: just a bit of appreciation. Certainly, make me something to

1854
01:26:48,452 --> 01:26:52,053
Speaker 2: eat and you know, a time for yourself. But if

1855
01:26:52,133 --> 01:26:54,932
Speaker 2: my kids did get me the eddiedak Aston var Villa

1856
01:26:56,572 --> 01:27:00,412
Speaker 2: complete track pant tracksuit set that I saw at Rebel

1857
01:27:00,412 --> 01:27:05,253
Speaker 2: Sport the other day, beautiful maroon Eddie dash. It's good

1858
01:27:05,333 --> 01:27:08,932
Speaker 2: luck mate, all over tracksuit. Yeah, then I wouldn't throw

1859
01:27:09,013 --> 01:27:11,173
Speaker 2: that in the rubber you appear into that. It's a

1860
01:27:11,213 --> 01:27:13,612
Speaker 2: beautiful thing. Yeah, jeez, I'd look good with that walking

1861
01:27:13,692 --> 01:27:18,692
Speaker 2: my dog Coline for your lovely partner Edie s Eston

1862
01:27:18,812 --> 01:27:23,412
Speaker 2: Villa Football Club, DNA hoodie and track pants noted.

1863
01:27:23,492 --> 01:27:25,812
Speaker 3: We'll just get there to record it. But you don't

1864
01:27:25,893 --> 01:27:27,572
Speaker 3: need in your life, mate, just.

1865
01:27:27,812 --> 01:27:29,732
Speaker 2: A hug, maybe some breakfast and beer.

1866
01:27:29,853 --> 01:27:31,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a nice trick suit.

1867
01:27:31,692 --> 01:27:36,772
Speaker 2: Nick. We a perfect Father's Day present for you, Nick.

1868
01:27:37,853 --> 01:27:38,812
Speaker 7: I'd like that us.

1869
01:27:42,492 --> 01:27:45,093
Speaker 3: That would be a good gift. Yeah, signed that.

1870
01:27:45,412 --> 01:27:48,333
Speaker 2: I wonder. I wonder if that kid, because now the

1871
01:27:48,412 --> 01:27:50,452
Speaker 2: kids ended up with it after the guy snatched it.

1872
01:27:51,732 --> 01:27:53,973
Speaker 2: That's going to be worth something, something that's blown up

1873
01:27:54,013 --> 01:27:56,612
Speaker 2: that big. Yeah, I wonder how much it will be

1874
01:27:56,652 --> 01:27:58,173
Speaker 2: worth now it might be worth a million dollars.

1875
01:27:58,253 --> 01:28:00,772
Speaker 3: I think kid sells that. Half the world will turn

1876
01:28:00,812 --> 01:28:01,253
Speaker 3: on that kid.

1877
01:28:01,372 --> 01:28:02,932
Speaker 2: I mean, how much did that banana that was nail

1878
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:05,852
Speaker 2: to war go for? That was right up there in

1879
01:28:05,853 --> 01:28:10,372
Speaker 2: the millions? Sure, Nick, Look, I'll see if I can

1880
01:28:10,532 --> 01:28:12,532
Speaker 2: organize that for you for Father's Day. I mean, I'll

1881
01:28:12,572 --> 01:28:15,973
Speaker 2: do my best. All right, sweet, thanks, but if not,

1882
01:28:16,253 --> 01:28:18,133
Speaker 2: well we'll breakfast and bed in a cuddle.

1883
01:28:17,933 --> 01:28:24,092
Speaker 20: Do yeah, take to breakfast and probably just a massage

1884
01:28:24,173 --> 01:28:24,452
Speaker 20: or something.

1885
01:28:24,853 --> 01:28:26,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can do that. He's pretty good at

1886
01:28:26,372 --> 01:28:30,772
Speaker 3: the beat mass. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1887
01:28:30,853 --> 01:28:32,532
Speaker 3: is able to call this some great texts coming through.

1888
01:28:32,572 --> 01:28:36,012
Speaker 2: This text from Elliott makes me emotional. My son lives

1889
01:28:36,053 --> 01:28:38,372
Speaker 2: overseas and this will be our first Father's Day apart.

1890
01:28:38,812 --> 01:28:40,492
Speaker 2: I'd give the world just for a hug.

1891
01:28:40,772 --> 01:28:45,132
Speaker 3: Oh that is Oh, there's that actually right in the fields.

1892
01:28:45,452 --> 01:28:47,932
Speaker 2: Oh there's some good, good good.

1893
01:28:48,572 --> 01:28:48,772
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1894
01:28:48,933 --> 01:28:49,253
Speaker 9: Some of the.

1895
01:28:49,293 --> 01:28:50,572
Speaker 3: Myneion emotional stuff.

1896
01:28:51,053 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 2: Best Father's Day present was my firstborn daughter, born on

1897
01:28:54,412 --> 01:28:56,412
Speaker 2: Father's Day, mate, nineteen years ago.

1898
01:28:56,532 --> 01:28:58,253
Speaker 3: You are going to make me start crying now. This

1899
01:28:58,412 --> 01:29:00,372
Speaker 3: is a nice one. As a father of two boys,

1900
01:29:00,492 --> 01:29:02,732
Speaker 3: I'm just happy having them around and feel great when

1901
01:29:02,772 --> 01:29:05,572
Speaker 3: they say Happy Father's Day. My one son is working

1902
01:29:05,652 --> 01:29:08,093
Speaker 3: in Sydney and we will FaceTime, and the other son

1903
01:29:08,213 --> 01:29:11,492
Speaker 3: is currently at university and at home. My birthday. Birthday

1904
01:29:11,572 --> 01:29:14,652
Speaker 3: is on Saturday, and then Sunday is Father's Day. Yahoo

1905
01:29:14,732 --> 01:29:16,253
Speaker 3: will be nice to go up for lunch dinner with

1906
01:29:16,372 --> 01:29:20,652
Speaker 3: my wife and the Boys. Good times from Jeff nice O.

1907
01:29:20,732 --> 01:29:23,093
Speaker 3: We one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1908
01:29:23,173 --> 01:29:25,652
Speaker 3: What does the perfect Father's Day look like for you?

1909
01:29:26,173 --> 01:29:28,372
Speaker 3: There's some interesting texts coming through.

1910
01:29:28,412 --> 01:29:30,492
Speaker 2: I've just got to say, yeah, we get, we get,

1911
01:29:30,853 --> 01:29:35,053
Speaker 2: we get the obvious suggestion there, but what what dad

1912
01:29:35,173 --> 01:29:35,572
Speaker 2: might want?

1913
01:29:35,732 --> 01:29:35,892
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1914
01:29:36,293 --> 01:29:39,133
Speaker 3: That goes unset. I think most Father's Day from all

1915
01:29:39,213 --> 01:29:40,173
Speaker 3: guys like.

1916
01:29:40,253 --> 01:29:44,013
Speaker 2: Foods is this texter blocks of chocolate always appreciated.

1917
01:29:44,213 --> 01:29:45,253
Speaker 3: Yep, that goes down a tree.

1918
01:29:45,612 --> 01:29:48,052
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of guys just saying steak eggs chips.

1919
01:29:48,333 --> 01:29:51,412
Speaker 2: I mean, what time of day is that? Steak egg chips?

1920
01:29:51,492 --> 01:29:54,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good breaky this one. Best Father's Day

1921
01:29:54,812 --> 01:29:56,692
Speaker 3: for me was last year I was given a box

1922
01:29:58,013 --> 01:30:01,253
Speaker 3: with oh baby booties and a scan of my first

1923
01:30:01,333 --> 01:30:03,972
Speaker 3: grand baby. The card read that I had been promoted

1924
01:30:04,053 --> 01:30:07,133
Speaker 3: to grandpa. There's from waa oh hey that is nice.

1925
01:30:07,732 --> 01:30:09,812
Speaker 2: Last year I got eighty dollars worth of different flavored

1926
01:30:09,853 --> 01:30:11,892
Speaker 2: bill pong. Best Father's Day ever.

1927
01:30:11,893 --> 01:30:13,333
Speaker 3: That is a good gift. Absolutely.

1928
01:30:13,492 --> 01:30:17,133
Speaker 2: I got some billpoon from west Auckland. Where's the place

1929
01:30:17,532 --> 01:30:19,053
Speaker 2: that it was amazing. I've got to remember what the

1930
01:30:19,093 --> 01:30:21,852
Speaker 2: place is. I'll find it.

1931
01:30:22,013 --> 01:30:24,612
Speaker 3: It's good stuff. Yeah, so one hundred and eighty ten

1932
01:30:24,692 --> 01:30:26,492
Speaker 3: eighty is a number to call. And just looking at

1933
01:30:26,572 --> 01:30:29,532
Speaker 3: some of these gifts that they've suggested on the Herald,

1934
01:30:29,732 --> 01:30:31,972
Speaker 3: if you've had a reader that and you've been offered

1935
01:30:32,013 --> 01:30:33,972
Speaker 3: in those gifts, we'd love to hear from you. Books

1936
01:30:34,053 --> 01:30:37,013
Speaker 3: get a big, a big showing in this list, though,

1937
01:30:37,213 --> 01:30:38,892
Speaker 3: And I've got to say that was all my always

1938
01:30:38,973 --> 01:30:41,093
Speaker 3: my go to with dad once I left home, just

1939
01:30:41,173 --> 01:30:42,812
Speaker 3: buy him a book. And I always felt like a

1940
01:30:42,853 --> 01:30:45,093
Speaker 3: little bit of shamed. Nothing wrong with books. Books are

1941
01:30:45,093 --> 01:30:47,652
Speaker 3: a great gift, depending on what book it is. But

1942
01:30:47,893 --> 01:30:50,412
Speaker 3: I always wondered Dad seemed very toughed at the idea

1943
01:30:50,452 --> 01:30:52,893
Speaker 3: of having a book, But I always wonder did he

1944
01:30:53,452 --> 01:30:56,092
Speaker 3: read it? Did he really appreciate that as a Father's

1945
01:30:56,133 --> 01:30:56,492
Speaker 3: Day gift?

1946
01:30:56,652 --> 01:30:58,572
Speaker 2: Or Yeah, I've been giving a lot of books of

1947
01:30:58,652 --> 01:31:00,652
Speaker 2: Father's Day that I haven't read. That, that's for sure.

1948
01:31:00,732 --> 01:31:03,572
Speaker 2: And you feel a bit of pressure, Yeah, you know

1949
01:31:03,732 --> 01:31:05,852
Speaker 2: when someone comes back and that book there has clearly

1950
01:31:05,893 --> 01:31:08,172
Speaker 2: not been read because it was clearly the wrong book exactly.

1951
01:31:08,333 --> 01:31:12,213
Speaker 2: I mean, I can recommend a lifeless punishing Thirteen Ways

1952
01:31:12,253 --> 01:31:14,293
Speaker 2: to Love your life You've Got by Matt Heath. If

1953
01:31:14,333 --> 01:31:15,333
Speaker 2: you're looking for a.

1954
01:31:15,412 --> 01:31:18,412
Speaker 3: Book, Yep, you know it's a good option.

1955
01:31:18,532 --> 01:31:20,412
Speaker 2: It's a very very good Dad might like that one

1956
01:31:20,492 --> 01:31:23,173
Speaker 2: on audiobook as well. Greg, I think you're wrong and

1957
01:31:23,213 --> 01:31:25,492
Speaker 2: you're a up at Matt. I think you comes in

1958
01:31:25,572 --> 01:31:28,412
Speaker 2: many different forms, and one of those is p R

1959
01:31:28,532 --> 01:31:31,972
Speaker 2: E S E N T s's give me presents? Okay,

1960
01:31:32,213 --> 01:31:35,133
Speaker 2: gift glover right there? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty

1961
01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:37,293
Speaker 2: is the number to call. What does the perfect Father's

1962
01:31:37,372 --> 01:31:38,852
Speaker 2: Day look like for you? And what was the best

1963
01:31:38,933 --> 01:31:41,892
Speaker 2: gift that you ever received from your kids on Dad's Day?

1964
01:31:42,492 --> 01:31:44,852
Speaker 2: Best Father's Day gift is just for one day. Don't

1965
01:31:44,933 --> 01:31:46,533
Speaker 2: spend my money from stay.

1966
01:31:46,372 --> 01:31:48,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, good call twenty seven past three.

1967
01:31:50,133 --> 01:31:53,412
Speaker 13: You talk sai'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

1968
01:31:53,492 --> 01:31:56,892
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. Energy is running high

1969
01:31:56,973 --> 01:32:00,053
Speaker 13: for tens of thousands of nurses across the country who

1970
01:32:00,093 --> 01:32:02,732
Speaker 13: are calling for the government to provide a solution to

1971
01:32:03,013 --> 01:32:08,172
Speaker 13: unsafe staffing. Nurses organization members are striking today and Thursday.

1972
01:32:08,812 --> 01:32:11,132
Speaker 13: The actual leader wants New Zealand out of the Paris

1973
01:32:11,253 --> 01:32:15,692
Speaker 13: Climate change Agreement unless we get a better deal. It's official.

1974
01:32:15,812 --> 01:32:19,612
Speaker 13: The government's state owned farming entity is profitable once again.

1975
01:32:20,253 --> 01:32:23,093
Speaker 13: Land Corps net profit after tax in the year to

1976
01:32:23,253 --> 01:32:27,052
Speaker 13: July is one hundred and twenty million dollars are relaxed.

1977
01:32:27,053 --> 01:32:29,932
Speaker 13: Setting for people to be heard and feel supported when

1978
01:32:29,973 --> 01:32:34,372
Speaker 13: they're feeling mental distress is now available in Huangannui. Mental

1979
01:32:34,412 --> 01:32:37,412
Speaker 13: Health Minister Matt Doosey has opened the first of six

1980
01:32:37,572 --> 01:32:43,532
Speaker 13: crisis recovery cafes nationwide with balanced aldteredder baby wipes sold

1981
01:32:43,572 --> 01:32:47,613
Speaker 13: across New Zealand have been recalled over possible mold contamination.

1982
01:32:48,293 --> 01:32:48,652
Speaker 3: Products.

1983
01:32:48,692 --> 01:32:52,853
Speaker 13: Safety Endz believes several batches of the Bungee Peekaboo probiotic

1984
01:32:53,053 --> 01:32:57,812
Speaker 13: baby eye wipes were improperly selled during manufacture. All Blacks

1985
01:32:57,933 --> 01:33:01,372
Speaker 13: versus Springboks the top ten tests as ranked by Rugby

1986
01:33:01,492 --> 01:33:05,452
Speaker 13: Expert Feel Gift. See the full list at Enzed Herald Premium.

1987
01:33:05,893 --> 01:33:07,932
Speaker 13: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1988
01:33:08,013 --> 01:33:10,093
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. So we are talking about

1989
01:33:10,133 --> 01:33:13,213
Speaker 3: Father's Day. It's on this coming Sunday. We're getting ahead

1990
01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:14,652
Speaker 3: of the curve, but love to hear from you. What

1991
01:33:14,772 --> 01:33:16,852
Speaker 3: does a perfect Father's Day look like for you?

1992
01:33:17,572 --> 01:33:20,133
Speaker 2: This business is a big box of meat, a case

1993
01:33:20,293 --> 01:33:23,333
Speaker 2: of booze. That's all I want on Father's Day.

1994
01:33:23,452 --> 01:33:23,732
Speaker 4: Love it.

1995
01:33:23,893 --> 01:33:25,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, some talk, that's a good day.

1996
01:33:25,612 --> 01:33:28,773
Speaker 2: Vouchers your muppets, cheers Richard.

1997
01:33:29,772 --> 01:33:31,772
Speaker 3: Nice and easy and you can't go wrong with an

1998
01:33:31,812 --> 01:33:32,333
Speaker 3: old voucher.

1999
01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:35,532
Speaker 2: The way fathers act in this country, they do not

2000
01:33:35,612 --> 01:33:39,012
Speaker 2: deserve anything. In my opinion, Why do we celebrate fathers?

2001
01:33:39,253 --> 01:33:41,452
Speaker 2: What about mothers? We do most of the work with

2002
01:33:41,572 --> 01:33:45,492
Speaker 2: the kids, and we don't leave the mothers behind. Okay, wow,

2003
01:33:45,973 --> 01:33:49,293
Speaker 2: but I mean that's some fathers. I mean, I mean

2004
01:33:49,732 --> 01:33:52,732
Speaker 2: there's millions, I mean, hundreds of thousands of fathers that

2005
01:33:52,812 --> 01:33:56,253
Speaker 2: are do great stuff in families one hundred percent.

2006
01:33:56,452 --> 01:33:58,452
Speaker 3: I mean, is there a bit of a feeling that not.

2007
01:33:58,532 --> 01:34:00,893
Speaker 2: All, not all fathers leave the mothers. Yeah, you go,

2008
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:04,333
Speaker 2: Some fathers leave the mothers, and mothers leave the fathers

2009
01:34:04,333 --> 01:34:06,213
Speaker 2: and they still manage to run different families.

2010
01:34:06,772 --> 01:34:08,173
Speaker 3: Trigguan. There is a bit of a feeling. You go

2011
01:34:08,333 --> 01:34:10,812
Speaker 3: all out for Mother's Day, and quite rightly, because moms

2012
01:34:11,013 --> 01:34:12,812
Speaker 3: are some of the best of us. You do amazing

2013
01:34:12,893 --> 01:34:14,452
Speaker 3: work out there, so you go all out and you

2014
01:34:14,532 --> 01:34:16,053
Speaker 3: try and make it the best day possible. When it

2015
01:34:16,093 --> 01:34:18,732
Speaker 3: comes to Father's Day, there's a bit of effort that's

2016
01:34:18,772 --> 01:34:23,012
Speaker 3: put in, but overall it's kind of it's not really

2017
01:34:23,093 --> 01:34:25,933
Speaker 3: at the upper echelons of Mother's Day? Is that the

2018
01:34:25,973 --> 01:34:26,692
Speaker 3: feeling out there?

2019
01:34:26,772 --> 01:34:30,053
Speaker 2: And you suggest seeing that the repercussions are such on

2020
01:34:30,213 --> 01:34:34,732
Speaker 2: Mother's Day if it isn't celebrated to a high enough level,

2021
01:34:35,053 --> 01:34:37,652
Speaker 2: that the repercussions will be such that people put in

2022
01:34:37,732 --> 01:34:41,213
Speaker 2: more effort than if Father's Day isn't there. This is

2023
01:34:41,253 --> 01:34:44,173
Speaker 2: what you're suggesting if fathers are less likely to be dramatic.

2024
01:34:44,293 --> 01:34:45,093
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, Kyler?

2025
01:34:45,293 --> 01:34:47,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, I've felt that before when

2026
01:34:47,412 --> 01:34:49,253
Speaker 3: I haven't done quite as well on Mother's Day as

2027
01:34:49,253 --> 01:34:51,412
Speaker 3: I should have done. But is that true in your household?

2028
01:34:51,612 --> 01:34:53,653
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty Texas.

2029
01:34:53,492 --> 01:34:56,572
Speaker 2: Is a big bag of weed? And leave me alone? Okay, okay,

2030
01:34:56,853 --> 01:34:59,692
Speaker 2: awesome rib terrible topic, guys, Not everyone has a dad.

2031
01:34:59,732 --> 01:35:01,692
Speaker 2: Pretty horrible to leave out most of the country and

2032
01:35:01,732 --> 01:35:02,133
Speaker 2: your chat.

2033
01:35:03,532 --> 01:35:05,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well we were.

2034
01:35:05,173 --> 01:35:06,932
Speaker 2: Talking about there was judging by the amount of text

2035
01:35:06,973 --> 01:35:08,812
Speaker 2: and stuff coming through, there are some far out there

2036
01:35:08,893 --> 01:35:10,093
Speaker 2: and there are a lot of people that love their

2037
01:35:10,093 --> 01:35:11,372
Speaker 2: fokas exactly like this.

2038
01:35:11,492 --> 01:35:14,372
Speaker 3: One last year, my three year old gave me a

2039
01:35:14,452 --> 01:35:16,972
Speaker 3: dried worm. It was kind of sweet. We were recently

2040
01:35:17,013 --> 01:35:18,812
Speaker 3: talking about bugs and worms and he thought I was

2041
01:35:18,853 --> 01:35:23,253
Speaker 3: relling into them. Actually kind of loved it. And this

2042
01:35:23,452 --> 01:35:26,372
Speaker 3: one is right on. Agrees with you, Matt. For me,

2043
01:35:26,772 --> 01:35:30,173
Speaker 3: just quiet time alone at home. Don't arrange any dinner dates,

2044
01:35:30,293 --> 01:35:32,973
Speaker 3: no errands, no going out to celebrate. Just leave me

2045
01:35:33,053 --> 01:35:34,852
Speaker 3: alone for twenty four hours while I lay on the

2046
01:35:34,893 --> 01:35:38,092
Speaker 3: couch to twenty four hours of doing absolutely nothing. Bliss.

2047
01:35:42,253 --> 01:35:45,213
Speaker 2: All I want, says this text for Father's Day is

2048
01:35:45,293 --> 01:35:50,333
Speaker 2: a drama free day. Just one day without drama. That's

2049
01:35:50,372 --> 01:35:52,173
Speaker 2: all I ask for. I know I won't get it.

2050
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:57,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's harsh. Yeah, sorry about that, mate,

2051
01:35:57,333 --> 01:35:58,532
Speaker 3: Hopefully you get it this year.

2052
01:36:00,053 --> 01:36:02,052
Speaker 2: What kind of drama is talking about?

2053
01:36:02,253 --> 01:36:04,972
Speaker 3: That sounds like a tough life in your household, guys.

2054
01:36:05,133 --> 01:36:08,052
Speaker 3: I have three kids in their teens. Not to play favorites,

2055
01:36:08,093 --> 01:36:10,532
Speaker 3: but two of them always go with the generic cards

2056
01:36:10,772 --> 01:36:13,173
Speaker 3: and help out with breakfast. My elder she goes out

2057
01:36:13,213 --> 01:36:15,812
Speaker 3: of her way to find stuff I really like. I'm

2058
01:36:15,853 --> 01:36:17,812
Speaker 3: a geek, but I try not to go overboard with it.

2059
01:36:17,893 --> 01:36:19,892
Speaker 3: She noticed I was watching a lot of Dragon ball

2060
01:36:20,013 --> 01:36:22,492
Speaker 3: Z and One punch Man and got me figures of

2061
01:36:22,572 --> 01:36:26,133
Speaker 3: go To and said, Tama, I knew she liked the Mandalorian,

2062
01:36:26,532 --> 01:36:29,053
Speaker 3: and she got me Grogus. Every year I look forward

2063
01:36:29,093 --> 01:36:30,932
Speaker 3: to what she gets and kind of wish the others

2064
01:36:31,013 --> 01:36:34,492
Speaker 3: would get the hint love those generic cards though, but yeah,

2065
01:36:34,572 --> 01:36:36,412
Speaker 3: she gets me Grogu.

2066
01:36:36,532 --> 01:36:39,892
Speaker 2: Sorry, baby Yoda, Yeah yeah, people still in the Baby Yoda.

2067
01:36:41,412 --> 01:36:42,933
Speaker 3: Well, where was the last season out? That was a

2068
01:36:42,973 --> 01:36:44,973
Speaker 3: great season, by the way, the old Mandalorian.

2069
01:36:45,213 --> 01:36:47,452
Speaker 2: The first season was. Yeah, the first two seasons were fine.

2070
01:36:47,492 --> 01:36:50,412
Speaker 2: It was fell off the cliff after that. For this

2071
01:36:50,572 --> 01:36:53,652
Speaker 2: person complaining about there being a Father's Day, Mother's Day

2072
01:36:53,732 --> 01:36:58,093
Speaker 2: is nine months after Father's Day. Oh interesting, interesting.

2073
01:36:57,853 --> 01:37:00,053
Speaker 3: Okay, I see where you're going with that. I see

2074
01:37:00,333 --> 01:37:01,492
Speaker 3: you come with that, is it?

2075
01:37:03,772 --> 01:37:03,972
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2076
01:37:04,732 --> 01:37:08,173
Speaker 3: How when his mother's that trying and do some reverse

2077
01:37:09,372 --> 01:37:12,932
Speaker 3: So May is it first Sunday of May? So it'd

2078
01:37:12,973 --> 01:37:13,572
Speaker 3: be about righty?

2079
01:37:13,732 --> 01:37:18,133
Speaker 2: So May this year it's Sunday, May the tenth. Next year, sorry,

2080
01:37:18,372 --> 01:37:21,772
Speaker 2: Mother's Day's Sunday May the tenth, and Father's Day is

2081
01:37:21,933 --> 01:37:24,052
Speaker 2: this is Sunday the seventh of September.

2082
01:37:24,973 --> 01:37:29,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good maths this one, guys, Just time with

2083
01:37:29,253 --> 01:37:32,213
Speaker 3: your kid. Two years ago, my daughter picked me up

2084
01:37:32,293 --> 01:37:34,692
Speaker 3: and we spent an early afternoon walking along the rub

2085
01:37:34,853 --> 01:37:37,572
Speaker 3: A River, feeding the darks, taking some photos. This year

2086
01:37:37,652 --> 01:37:39,572
Speaker 3: she brought tickets for a band she thinks alike and

2087
01:37:39,732 --> 01:37:41,972
Speaker 3: is taking me to a concert. I don't really need things,

2088
01:37:42,372 --> 01:37:45,492
Speaker 3: but I cherish time and experiences with her. That's Father's

2089
01:37:45,532 --> 01:37:48,053
Speaker 3: Day for me, Glensys.

2090
01:37:48,093 --> 01:37:50,133
Speaker 2: I buy a present with my money, I put it

2091
01:37:50,213 --> 01:37:52,372
Speaker 2: in a bag, give it to the kids, they sign

2092
01:37:52,452 --> 01:37:53,532
Speaker 2: it and they give it back to me.

2093
01:37:53,893 --> 01:37:58,173
Speaker 3: Oh how nice our touching. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

2094
01:37:58,293 --> 01:38:00,972
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call? What are you expecting

2095
01:38:01,053 --> 01:38:02,973
Speaker 3: for Father's Day? And have you got a Father's Day

2096
01:38:03,013 --> 01:38:06,612
Speaker 3: tradition that you tend to do on that day or.

2097
01:38:07,253 --> 01:38:09,372
Speaker 2: Any father wants? And other day is a sleeping a

2098
01:38:09,452 --> 01:38:12,093
Speaker 2: couple of coffees, watch some for lawn's done by someone else,

2099
01:38:12,213 --> 01:38:14,372
Speaker 2: a roast, then a good hard cut all once the

2100
01:38:14,452 --> 01:38:15,132
Speaker 2: kids are asleep.

2101
01:38:15,333 --> 01:38:18,732
Speaker 3: Bless you got on your warsl it is twenty four

2102
01:38:18,812 --> 01:38:20,732
Speaker 3: to four Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

2103
01:38:20,893 --> 01:38:22,852
Speaker 3: number to call. What's your best gift you've ever got

2104
01:38:22,893 --> 01:38:25,253
Speaker 3: on Dad's Day? And any traditions you do love to

2105
01:38:25,293 --> 01:38:25,732
Speaker 3: hear from you?

2106
01:38:26,213 --> 01:38:27,532
Speaker 2: A lot of lude content coming through.

2107
01:38:27,572 --> 01:38:28,133
Speaker 11: It really is.

2108
01:38:30,013 --> 01:38:34,173
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons

2109
01:38:34,412 --> 01:38:37,212
Speaker 1: call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

2110
01:38:37,053 --> 01:38:40,133
Speaker 3: Said, be afternoon to your Father's Day on Sunday. So

2111
01:38:40,213 --> 01:38:42,093
Speaker 3: what would the perfect Father's Day look like for you?

2112
01:38:42,133 --> 01:38:44,133
Speaker 3: And what's been the best gifts that you've ever had?

2113
01:38:44,253 --> 01:38:45,852
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is number.

2114
01:38:45,612 --> 01:38:49,053
Speaker 2: To call Graham your favorite Father's Day? What do you want?

2115
01:38:50,772 --> 01:38:52,812
Speaker 20: I have this thing when I have a birthday, it's

2116
01:38:52,853 --> 01:38:55,692
Speaker 20: called birthday months. So I figured it should be Father's

2117
01:38:55,732 --> 01:39:02,572
Speaker 20: weekend and I reckon well making the top four Friday night.

2118
01:39:02,973 --> 01:39:06,652
Speaker 20: AB's beating the box at edon Park, Liam Podium at

2119
01:39:06,772 --> 01:39:12,412
Speaker 20: Monza and was beating the Browns opening weekend of the

2120
01:39:12,572 --> 01:39:14,772
Speaker 20: NFL season on Monday, and I wouldn't care if the

2121
01:39:14,893 --> 01:39:16,253
Speaker 20: kids burnt the bacon and.

2122
01:39:18,692 --> 01:39:19,412
Speaker 4: I'll be happy.

2123
01:39:20,612 --> 01:39:22,692
Speaker 2: There's a lot of moving parts in your your gifts.

2124
01:39:22,732 --> 01:39:25,852
Speaker 2: So basically you need the Wires to beat Manly and

2125
01:39:26,013 --> 01:39:28,213
Speaker 2: the Storm to beat the Broncos, and the Bulldogs to

2126
01:39:28,253 --> 01:39:31,053
Speaker 2: beat the Sharks for for the to come through.

2127
01:39:31,093 --> 01:39:37,172
Speaker 21: That's a bit yep, Yeah, yeah, was it the choice halfback?

2128
01:39:37,692 --> 01:39:42,812
Speaker 21: They have a sorry yeah, on Saturday night, whoever that

2129
01:39:43,053 --> 01:39:43,893
Speaker 21: is is going to be.

2130
01:39:45,732 --> 01:39:50,053
Speaker 20: Maybe if Carlos says t bones both McLaren's off the

2131
01:39:50,133 --> 01:39:55,892
Speaker 20: starting line, Liam might make it onto the podium. And yeah,

2132
01:39:55,973 --> 01:39:59,532
Speaker 20: Browns to lose to the Bengals and the opening NFL game.

2133
01:39:59,492 --> 01:40:02,213
Speaker 2: I've lost. I've lost so much respects for Carlos Steigns

2134
01:40:02,253 --> 01:40:04,412
Speaker 2: after his reaction to and his bitching and it is

2135
01:40:04,452 --> 01:40:06,452
Speaker 2: having a go and Liam and there it's like you

2136
01:40:07,053 --> 01:40:12,492
Speaker 2: pressy drama bastard. Yeah, it was Lamb's corner mate, just

2137
01:40:12,532 --> 01:40:15,213
Speaker 2: because you're having a crap season, you know, and to

2138
01:40:15,293 --> 01:40:16,612
Speaker 2: talk to and you know, to talk to it to

2139
01:40:16,692 --> 01:40:18,972
Speaker 2: a young guy on the on the on the field

2140
01:40:19,093 --> 01:40:20,652
Speaker 2: like that, what he was on the radius? It's always

2141
01:40:20,692 --> 01:40:22,053
Speaker 2: this guy? What do you mean? It's always this guy?

2142
01:40:22,133 --> 01:40:30,053
Speaker 2: What a lot of rubbish? Carlos signed little Thunderbird looking on,

2143
01:40:31,133 --> 01:40:31,852
Speaker 2: don't get me started.

2144
01:40:31,853 --> 01:40:33,852
Speaker 3: You've got him started now, Graham. But that is a

2145
01:40:33,933 --> 01:40:35,852
Speaker 3: great one. I would also say, mate, if you get

2146
01:40:35,893 --> 01:40:37,732
Speaker 3: that multi as well, not only will you have a

2147
01:40:37,812 --> 01:40:40,293
Speaker 3: fantastic weekend, you'll be quite rich. What's it.

2148
01:40:42,053 --> 01:40:43,932
Speaker 2: That's paying at least?

2149
01:40:44,732 --> 01:40:44,932
Speaker 9: Well?

2150
01:40:44,933 --> 01:40:46,892
Speaker 2: I hope all your dreams come true because we share

2151
01:40:46,893 --> 01:40:50,612
Speaker 2: a lot of similar dreams that would make that would

2152
01:40:50,652 --> 01:40:52,532
Speaker 2: make a lot of father's days. Think of you A

2153
01:40:52,572 --> 01:40:53,252
Speaker 2: call Graham.

2154
01:40:53,133 --> 01:40:54,532
Speaker 3: Love it, thank you very much.

2155
01:40:55,253 --> 01:40:56,852
Speaker 2: I agree with the previous text. So with all the

2156
01:40:56,933 --> 01:40:59,893
Speaker 2: damaged fathers do, why would you want to celebrate them? O?

2157
01:41:00,893 --> 01:41:02,012
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa.

2158
01:41:03,812 --> 01:41:03,972
Speaker 11: There.

2159
01:41:04,333 --> 01:41:07,852
Speaker 2: Well, you know what some people do, But the vast majority,

2160
01:41:07,933 --> 01:41:11,053
Speaker 2: the vast vast majority of fathers that work hard and

2161
01:41:12,452 --> 01:41:15,053
Speaker 2: do a lot for their families, and they're worth celebrating.

2162
01:41:15,253 --> 01:41:15,852
Speaker 3: We need dad.

2163
01:41:15,973 --> 01:41:19,213
Speaker 2: You just can't list. There's some bad people in this world. Absolutely,

2164
01:41:19,253 --> 01:41:22,532
Speaker 2: But would you celebrate no one for anything because there

2165
01:41:22,532 --> 01:41:23,692
Speaker 2: are some bad people in the world.

2166
01:41:23,933 --> 01:41:25,612
Speaker 3: Come on, a bit of dad love out there? Come on,

2167
01:41:25,853 --> 01:41:28,772
Speaker 3: come on, This one says, get a guys, If my

2168
01:41:28,893 --> 01:41:30,972
Speaker 3: kids buy me a tie, I will be very sad.

2169
01:41:31,253 --> 01:41:33,173
Speaker 3: But honestly, you can't beat the classics. Get me some

2170
01:41:33,293 --> 01:41:35,333
Speaker 3: sort of powered tool, so long as I don't already

2171
01:41:35,372 --> 01:41:37,173
Speaker 3: have one, and I'll be chuffed. Treat me to a

2172
01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:40,172
Speaker 3: steak dinner, a fine bottle of whiskey Irish as my preferred,

2173
01:41:40,333 --> 01:41:42,852
Speaker 3: or some sort of barbecue equipment. The best gifts I've

2174
01:41:42,893 --> 01:41:46,732
Speaker 3: ever received have been a woodworking lathe, a Tomahawk's steak

2175
01:41:46,812 --> 01:41:50,572
Speaker 3: with peppercorn sauce and a mini smoker. Good times. That

2176
01:41:50,732 --> 01:41:51,412
Speaker 3: is out of a lift.

2177
01:41:53,093 --> 01:41:53,372
Speaker 9: Get a.

2178
01:41:53,732 --> 01:41:56,892
Speaker 2: Oh this is a this is a quite an intense one.

2179
01:41:56,973 --> 01:42:00,213
Speaker 2: But I'm going to read this out. Get My daughter

2180
01:42:00,293 --> 01:42:02,572
Speaker 2: and her husband, Jacob are at Starship Hospital at the

2181
01:42:02,612 --> 01:42:05,492
Speaker 2: moment with our grandson awaiting a liver transplant. The little

2182
01:42:05,532 --> 01:42:08,572
Speaker 2: guy is five months old, my son in law's first

2183
01:42:08,612 --> 01:42:09,173
Speaker 2: Father's Day.

2184
01:42:09,652 --> 01:42:09,892
Speaker 12: Wow.

2185
01:42:10,013 --> 01:42:12,173
Speaker 2: The biggest gift for Father's Day would be for the

2186
01:42:12,253 --> 01:42:15,093
Speaker 2: transplant to go well and our daughter and son in

2187
01:42:15,173 --> 01:42:16,972
Speaker 2: law still to get to have a child to hold

2188
01:42:17,013 --> 01:42:20,093
Speaker 2: and grow up with. Pete well Man, lots of love

2189
01:42:21,173 --> 01:42:22,213
Speaker 2: to you and your family.

2190
01:42:22,293 --> 01:42:24,612
Speaker 3: That is that is intense, all the very best, Pete

2191
01:42:24,612 --> 01:42:26,612
Speaker 3: and you. Hopefully that goes well. Oh eight hundred God

2192
01:42:26,692 --> 01:42:29,572
Speaker 3: stuff from perspective, certainly does. That would be an amazing

2193
01:42:29,652 --> 01:42:32,213
Speaker 3: Father's Day for that family. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

2194
01:42:32,412 --> 01:42:34,093
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

2195
01:42:34,973 --> 01:42:37,412
Speaker 2: Afternoon, guys, my son is listening. Cole, give me a

2196
01:42:37,652 --> 01:42:42,333
Speaker 2: cask on my bedside table, some valium and I'll let

2197
01:42:42,372 --> 01:42:43,852
Speaker 2: you have your first joint. Nice.

2198
01:42:43,973 --> 01:42:45,692
Speaker 3: It's a good dad right there, I think, all right,

2199
01:42:45,933 --> 01:42:46,612
Speaker 3: good time.

2200
01:42:47,093 --> 01:42:49,652
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundreds, unpack that one of this very disparate

2201
01:42:49,732 --> 01:42:50,133
Speaker 2: text there.

2202
01:42:50,293 --> 01:42:52,692
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

2203
01:42:52,732 --> 01:42:53,572
Speaker 3: call get a John?

2204
01:42:54,732 --> 01:42:56,052
Speaker 11: Hey mayhow thanks good?

2205
01:42:56,133 --> 01:42:57,812
Speaker 3: And what does Father's Day look like for you? What

2206
01:42:57,893 --> 01:42:58,412
Speaker 3: are you hoping for?

2207
01:42:59,532 --> 01:43:01,652
Speaker 22: Oh mate? To be honest, just waking up to my

2208
01:43:01,812 --> 01:43:05,173
Speaker 22: kids is more than enough. Well for me, I enjoy

2209
01:43:05,213 --> 01:43:06,933
Speaker 22: every day waking up to both of my kids. So

2210
01:43:07,572 --> 01:43:11,012
Speaker 22: that's Father's Day for me. You know that breakfast usually breakfast,

2211
01:43:11,093 --> 01:43:15,732
Speaker 22: we have breakfast altogether. But you know, me and my wife,

2212
01:43:15,772 --> 01:43:18,612
Speaker 22: we put money to our kids every year and they

2213
01:43:19,372 --> 01:43:21,652
Speaker 22: they buy what they want to buy ours for mothers

2214
01:43:21,692 --> 01:43:22,412
Speaker 22: and Father's Day?

2215
01:43:23,293 --> 01:43:23,973
Speaker 2: Do they get it right?

2216
01:43:25,293 --> 01:43:25,452
Speaker 12: Oh?

2217
01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:30,093
Speaker 22: Sometimes? Other times it's like, yeah, I think it might

2218
01:43:30,133 --> 01:43:32,652
Speaker 22: have been wrong. But yeah, I mean, you know, whatever

2219
01:43:32,732 --> 01:43:35,893
Speaker 22: they feel and how they feel what matters. It's not

2220
01:43:36,333 --> 01:43:39,772
Speaker 22: what I You know, I'm not there to celebrate my

2221
01:43:39,973 --> 01:43:42,892
Speaker 22: spouse it like I do on her days. But it's

2222
01:43:42,973 --> 01:43:45,253
Speaker 22: you know, I'll call my mum and shut you know

2223
01:43:45,532 --> 01:43:48,812
Speaker 22: whatever to my mom like she would with him or

2224
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 22: her dad.

2225
01:43:50,133 --> 01:43:51,692
Speaker 2: John, how old are your kids? If you don't mind

2226
01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:53,772
Speaker 2: me asking, My.

2227
01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:59,412
Speaker 22: Oldest son is fourteen and my daughter is just turned.

2228
01:43:59,253 --> 01:44:02,532
Speaker 3: To oh nice, and what did they go for last

2229
01:44:02,732 --> 01:44:03,932
Speaker 3: last year, John, can.

2230
01:44:03,853 --> 01:44:08,092
Speaker 22: You say son got socks and hues because he seems

2231
01:44:08,133 --> 01:44:09,173
Speaker 22: not my auntie?

2232
01:44:09,732 --> 01:44:09,892
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2233
01:44:10,093 --> 01:44:12,852
Speaker 3: Good basic, Yeah yeah, you can always use those.

2234
01:44:13,893 --> 01:44:14,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2235
01:44:14,692 --> 01:44:14,852
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2236
01:44:14,893 --> 01:44:17,293
Speaker 22: Breakfast we always do a cook breakfast for mothers and

2237
01:44:17,372 --> 01:44:17,932
Speaker 22: Father's Day.

2238
01:44:18,173 --> 01:44:20,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it. John, you're a good man. You're a

2239
01:44:20,213 --> 01:44:22,612
Speaker 3: lucky man. Oh eight hundred eighty, ten eighty is the

2240
01:44:22,772 --> 01:44:24,452
Speaker 3: number to call if you want to send a texture

2241
01:44:24,452 --> 01:44:27,093
Speaker 3: more than welcome. Nine to ninety two. Plenty coming through,

2242
01:44:28,013 --> 01:44:30,253
Speaker 3: So we'll get to a few more of those very shortly.

2243
01:44:30,853 --> 01:44:33,213
Speaker 3: It is a quarter to four. You're listening to Matt

2244
01:44:33,213 --> 01:44:34,012
Speaker 3: and Tyler good Afternoons.

2245
01:44:34,053 --> 01:44:38,372
Speaker 1: You the big stories, the big issues, the big trends

2246
01:44:38,532 --> 01:44:42,253
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

2247
01:44:42,492 --> 01:44:43,452
Speaker 1: News Talks EDB.

2248
01:44:44,253 --> 01:44:46,293
Speaker 3: News Talks ed BE. It is twelve to four and

2249
01:44:46,333 --> 01:44:48,812
Speaker 3: we're talking about Father's Day on Sunday. What does the

2250
01:44:48,812 --> 01:44:50,812
Speaker 3: perfect Father's Day look like for you? Oh, eight hundred

2251
01:44:50,853 --> 01:44:51,933
Speaker 3: and eighty, ten eighty is the number to.

2252
01:44:52,013 --> 01:44:56,013
Speaker 2: Call, Pete, Welcome to the show. What's Father's Day look

2253
01:44:56,093 --> 01:44:56,372
Speaker 2: like for you?

2254
01:44:57,692 --> 01:44:58,372
Speaker 4: Good lads?

2255
01:44:58,412 --> 01:45:00,692
Speaker 2: How are we? Very good? Mate? Very good?

2256
01:45:01,133 --> 01:45:02,372
Speaker 9: Father Father's Day for me?

2257
01:45:02,612 --> 01:45:06,372
Speaker 23: Like I'm nearly fifty and when I was the kids,

2258
01:45:06,692 --> 01:45:10,093
Speaker 23: Father's Day was a lot different when I was a

2259
01:45:10,173 --> 01:45:11,293
Speaker 23: kid to what it is now.

2260
01:45:11,412 --> 01:45:13,773
Speaker 4: And I've got two kids.

2261
01:45:13,612 --> 01:45:17,093
Speaker 23: One's twelve and one's twenty four, and fathers stay for

2262
01:45:17,173 --> 01:45:21,092
Speaker 23: them are very different in how they want to celebrate

2263
01:45:21,173 --> 01:45:25,333
Speaker 23: it with me. My son who's twelve, he wants to

2264
01:45:26,333 --> 01:45:31,372
Speaker 23: celebrate my Father's Day by eating the food he likes,

2265
01:45:31,612 --> 01:45:34,572
Speaker 23: which is bacon and fish fingers and eggs taste, and

2266
01:45:35,412 --> 01:45:38,492
Speaker 23: spending time with me, either gaming or watching a movie.

2267
01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:42,333
Speaker 23: Where's my daughter who's twenty four, She just wants to

2268
01:45:42,812 --> 01:45:47,452
Speaker 23: spend time with me, either out doing something or I

2269
01:45:47,532 --> 01:45:51,612
Speaker 23: don't put a lot of credence on material stuff.

2270
01:45:52,053 --> 01:45:53,253
Speaker 9: That's not what it's about for me.

2271
01:45:53,372 --> 01:45:55,852
Speaker 23: It's just about spending time with my kids and then

2272
01:45:55,933 --> 01:46:00,572
Speaker 23: wanting to spend time with me and enjoying each other's company.

2273
01:46:00,652 --> 01:46:02,492
Speaker 23: And that's what it is for me as a dad,

2274
01:46:02,652 --> 01:46:06,973
Speaker 23: is giving back to them and letting them know I'm

2275
01:46:07,013 --> 01:46:10,852
Speaker 23: there for them and that no matter what happens, that's

2276
01:46:10,893 --> 01:46:15,093
Speaker 23: what a dad does, he through thickenson, through everything else

2277
01:46:15,173 --> 01:46:17,812
Speaker 23: that happens in life. Your dad should be there for

2278
01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:20,652
Speaker 23: you one hundred percent as much as your mum.

2279
01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:27,732
Speaker 9: And if you've got a combined family group. Parents.

2280
01:46:27,772 --> 01:46:28,973
Speaker 4: Whether you're together or not.

2281
01:46:29,532 --> 01:46:32,412
Speaker 23: That's all that matters, is that your kids see you

2282
01:46:33,333 --> 01:46:35,732
Speaker 23: as the person they can go through and the person

2283
01:46:35,853 --> 01:46:38,772
Speaker 23: they can count on. Whether it's eating food with you,

2284
01:46:38,973 --> 01:46:41,732
Speaker 23: whether it's going out and enjoying a meal, having a drink,

2285
01:46:42,333 --> 01:46:44,412
Speaker 23: or just sitting at home and watching a movie and

2286
01:46:44,492 --> 01:46:47,892
Speaker 23: playing a game. None of that, None of that matters.

2287
01:46:47,933 --> 01:46:51,612
Speaker 23: That's peripheral stuff. The thing is spending time with your kids.

2288
01:46:52,013 --> 01:46:53,893
Speaker 23: And that's the thing I want from my kids is

2289
01:46:53,933 --> 01:46:56,293
Speaker 23: that they want to spend time with me, and then

2290
01:46:56,333 --> 01:46:57,293
Speaker 23: I know it's succeeded.

2291
01:46:57,692 --> 01:46:59,092
Speaker 2: That's buddy, beautiful Pete.

2292
01:46:58,933 --> 01:47:01,053
Speaker 3: You're a good dad right there, far out there and

2293
01:47:01,452 --> 01:47:06,092
Speaker 3: making me get a bit sweaty around the ice. Plenty

2294
01:47:06,093 --> 01:47:07,213
Speaker 3: of teas coming from nine to.

2295
01:47:09,133 --> 01:47:12,173
Speaker 2: My name's Aaron. On Father's Day, I can't wait for

2296
01:47:12,253 --> 01:47:15,973
Speaker 2: home drawings on coloring inns, crowns, and homemade cards from

2297
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:17,213
Speaker 2: my four and five year old.

2298
01:47:17,333 --> 01:47:17,612
Speaker 9: Love it.

2299
01:47:18,133 --> 01:47:19,812
Speaker 3: That is beautiful. See this.

2300
01:47:19,893 --> 01:47:22,452
Speaker 2: People don't want to hear this, do they? They want,

2301
01:47:22,652 --> 01:47:25,492
Speaker 2: you know, the whole Father's Day thing. The last thing

2302
01:47:25,532 --> 01:47:27,812
Speaker 2: people want to hear out there running businesses is that

2303
01:47:27,933 --> 01:47:30,933
Speaker 2: fathers just want some crayon drawings, and then you know,

2304
01:47:31,093 --> 01:47:33,333
Speaker 2: maybe some breakfast and then let the watch sport all day.

2305
01:47:33,412 --> 01:47:35,452
Speaker 3: Go out there. It's been some muddy kids. The economy

2306
01:47:35,492 --> 01:47:35,772
Speaker 3: needs it.

2307
01:47:36,612 --> 01:47:40,213
Speaker 2: Every day is Mother's Day except for half of Father's Day,

2308
01:47:40,532 --> 01:47:41,572
Speaker 2: says Richard Well.

2309
01:47:41,652 --> 01:47:43,852
Speaker 3: That leads into this text says get our guys. My

2310
01:47:43,933 --> 01:47:45,932
Speaker 3: wife and I have this running deal that when Mother's

2311
01:47:45,973 --> 01:47:47,732
Speaker 3: Day comes, she gets a whole weekend off to do

2312
01:47:47,853 --> 01:47:50,372
Speaker 3: whatever she wants, go out of town, have a sparred day,

2313
01:47:50,692 --> 01:47:52,892
Speaker 3: and I'll have her favorite meal cooked when she gets back.

2314
01:47:52,933 --> 01:47:55,452
Speaker 3: When Father's Day comes around, I get a key chain

2315
01:47:55,973 --> 01:47:58,652
Speaker 3: from the servo with my name spelt wrong on it.

2316
01:47:59,893 --> 01:48:00,492
Speaker 3: That's a rough.

2317
01:48:01,532 --> 01:48:04,852
Speaker 2: Best president my brother ever gave my mother was an ashtray.

2318
01:48:04,973 --> 01:48:07,572
Speaker 2: She didn't smoke. I bought my kids up on my

2319
01:48:07,652 --> 01:48:09,772
Speaker 2: own as a solo d I did without so much

2320
01:48:09,933 --> 01:48:11,772
Speaker 2: just to make life easier with them. I don't regret

2321
01:48:11,853 --> 01:48:13,852
Speaker 2: any of it and would do it again. I am

2322
01:48:13,893 --> 01:48:16,213
Speaker 2: best of mates with all three boys. They are in

2323
01:48:16,293 --> 01:48:18,372
Speaker 2: their late twenties and thirties now, and I'm always the

2324
01:48:18,412 --> 01:48:21,333
Speaker 2: first person I talk to if anything that goes roight.

2325
01:48:21,333 --> 01:48:23,052
Speaker 2: I'm always the first person they talk to if anything

2326
01:48:23,093 --> 01:48:25,412
Speaker 2: goes wrong. They are all around the world now leading

2327
01:48:25,452 --> 01:48:27,293
Speaker 2: their own lives, and all I want is a phone

2328
01:48:27,333 --> 01:48:28,492
Speaker 2: call on Father's Day.

2329
01:48:28,772 --> 01:48:32,652
Speaker 3: Oh god, gym, that is poutiful. And this one, guys,

2330
01:48:32,692 --> 01:48:34,612
Speaker 3: when my son was in preschool, he gave me a

2331
01:48:34,652 --> 01:48:37,012
Speaker 3: picture frame that he painted with a picture of himself

2332
01:48:37,053 --> 01:48:39,612
Speaker 3: in it. I still have it on my nightstand and

2333
01:48:39,652 --> 01:48:42,293
Speaker 3: look at it every day. He's in college now, But

2334
01:48:42,372 --> 01:48:44,213
Speaker 3: that was the best Father's Day gift I ever got.

2335
01:48:44,452 --> 01:48:49,052
Speaker 2: See these texts that are saying that fathers don't deserve

2336
01:48:49,093 --> 01:48:51,492
Speaker 2: to be celebrated on Father's Day, I mean, horrible, horrible

2337
01:48:51,572 --> 01:48:56,013
Speaker 2: attitude to have. But this doesn't play out with what

2338
01:48:56,652 --> 01:48:57,372
Speaker 2: most fathers are.

2339
01:48:57,532 --> 01:48:57,572
Speaker 15: Like.

2340
01:48:57,853 --> 01:49:00,852
Speaker 2: My fathers just absolutely love their kids and would do

2341
01:49:00,933 --> 01:49:04,492
Speaker 2: anything for them and maybe just want to, you know,

2342
01:49:04,812 --> 01:49:07,093
Speaker 2: spend some time with them exactly. That's all A lot

2343
01:49:07,173 --> 01:49:09,213
Speaker 2: of spend some time with the TV watching sport either

2344
01:49:09,253 --> 01:49:10,492
Speaker 2: all yeah, either all Gary?

2345
01:49:10,572 --> 01:49:12,412
Speaker 3: How are your mate? Yeah?

2346
01:49:12,492 --> 01:49:13,253
Speaker 4: Good mate? Good?

2347
01:49:13,532 --> 01:49:15,372
Speaker 3: So what does the perfect father's they look like for you?

2348
01:49:17,013 --> 01:49:23,492
Speaker 24: A sleeping burn, burnt breakfast in my bed, selection of

2349
01:49:23,612 --> 01:49:27,213
Speaker 24: craft bears. And then well we're a few, a few

2350
01:49:27,532 --> 01:49:29,053
Speaker 24: of me and my mates are going out for a

2351
01:49:29,093 --> 01:49:29,892
Speaker 24: game of golf.

2352
01:49:30,732 --> 01:49:32,852
Speaker 2: Right, and did you bot that or did you did

2353
01:49:32,933 --> 01:49:33,973
Speaker 2: your significant other by?

2354
01:49:35,452 --> 01:49:35,933
Speaker 7: I don't want to know.

2355
01:49:36,053 --> 01:49:40,053
Speaker 24: I don't want annoy the kids on Sunday, right, smart, Yeah,

2356
01:49:40,452 --> 01:49:42,412
Speaker 24: I mean I got to say every all of all

2357
01:49:42,452 --> 01:49:45,213
Speaker 24: of our mates said yes, apart from Brendan, my mate, Brendan,

2358
01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:46,973
Speaker 24: his wife said he has to spend the day with

2359
01:49:47,053 --> 01:49:47,372
Speaker 24: the kids.

2360
01:49:47,452 --> 01:49:51,492
Speaker 2: So from Brendan's presenters, he's not allowed to go and

2361
01:49:51,532 --> 01:49:52,532
Speaker 2: play golf with his mates.

2362
01:49:53,452 --> 01:49:57,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, come on, let Brendan out.

2363
01:49:58,093 --> 01:50:00,372
Speaker 2: Golfers, I mean golfers. Most of they what what time?

2364
01:50:00,532 --> 01:50:01,253
Speaker 2: What's tea time?

2365
01:50:01,652 --> 01:50:01,973
Speaker 5: What? What?

2366
01:50:02,133 --> 01:50:02,173
Speaker 7: What?

2367
01:50:02,412 --> 01:50:03,213
Speaker 2: What time's te off?

2368
01:50:03,893 --> 01:50:05,732
Speaker 4: I live him thirty. I've got to allowed to sleep.

2369
01:50:05,532 --> 01:50:07,772
Speaker 2: And yeah, so sleep and this is a couple of

2370
01:50:07,812 --> 01:50:10,053
Speaker 2: hours with the kids and then you'll be back, potentially

2371
01:50:10,372 --> 01:50:13,892
Speaker 2: a little bit sloshed later on the evening. Don't give

2372
01:50:13,893 --> 01:50:18,572
Speaker 2: you a number, give it off here and then then

2373
01:50:18,692 --> 01:50:20,532
Speaker 2: I'll give them. I'll give them, I'll give them a ring.

2374
01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:22,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what we can make up and we'll

2375
01:50:22,053 --> 01:50:23,372
Speaker 3: see if we can get Brigs out for a day

2376
01:50:23,372 --> 01:50:23,772
Speaker 3: on the links.

2377
01:50:23,853 --> 01:50:24,053
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2378
01:50:26,372 --> 01:50:27,933
Speaker 3: Gary, you're a good man. Thank you very much for

2379
01:50:27,973 --> 01:50:30,372
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz a whole bunch of ticks have

2380
01:50:30,532 --> 01:50:32,692
Speaker 3: come through on nine two nine two, but oh, e

2381
01:50:32,692 --> 01:50:34,572
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty in is number to call.

2382
01:50:35,572 --> 01:50:37,692
Speaker 2: This will be my first Father's Day without my dad,

2383
01:50:37,732 --> 01:50:39,732
Speaker 2: because he passed away in July. I will just be

2384
01:50:39,853 --> 01:50:43,252
Speaker 2: remembering the lovely Father's Days of the past. That's from Caroline.

2385
01:50:43,293 --> 01:50:46,612
Speaker 3: Oh, that's nice, and this one. Anything homemade from my

2386
01:50:46,732 --> 01:50:49,092
Speaker 3: kids is always great. My wife got me a yitty

2387
01:50:49,173 --> 01:50:52,173
Speaker 3: cup and my favorite color that I love as well.

2388
01:50:52,213 --> 01:50:54,492
Speaker 3: I mean the old homemade guests, particularly when they're young.

2389
01:50:54,572 --> 01:50:56,492
Speaker 3: There is something beautiful about that, isn't there.

2390
01:50:56,612 --> 01:50:58,532
Speaker 2: I have a two year old girl and another one

2391
01:50:58,732 --> 01:51:02,613
Speaker 2: due any day now. I could be possibly getting another

2392
01:51:02,772 --> 01:51:05,372
Speaker 2: daughter for Father's Day. Couldn't be more blessed, lucky, lucky

2393
01:51:05,492 --> 01:51:09,412
Speaker 2: man ah And well this one flowers. I read somewhere

2394
01:51:09,452 --> 01:51:11,772
Speaker 2: most men receive flowers for the first time at their funeral.

2395
01:51:11,893 --> 01:51:14,692
Speaker 2: I just love some roses for Father's Day.

2396
01:51:15,333 --> 01:51:16,933
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, good on you.

2397
01:51:18,093 --> 01:51:23,612
Speaker 2: There's always a Brandon and Everyone's Friends circle. Life's cruel brandan.

2398
01:51:23,652 --> 01:51:26,452
Speaker 2: If you're listening, mate, you heaping Father's Day. This is

2399
01:51:26,452 --> 01:51:28,452
Speaker 2: a hurtful text. My kids said they would get me.

2400
01:51:28,652 --> 01:51:31,892
Speaker 2: Matt Heath's book for Father's Day. I said, Nah, rather socks.

2401
01:51:32,093 --> 01:51:33,812
Speaker 3: Oh that's crawling on double accounts.

2402
01:51:34,013 --> 01:51:35,652
Speaker 2: I mean, socks are pretty good.

2403
01:51:35,532 --> 01:51:37,572
Speaker 3: They're pretty handy. But it's a great read their book.

2404
01:51:37,732 --> 01:51:42,532
Speaker 2: Hey, look look I just want on Father's gay. As

2405
01:51:42,572 --> 01:51:44,612
Speaker 2: I said before, it's a little cuddle, maybe a thank you.

2406
01:51:45,213 --> 01:51:47,892
Speaker 2: Then just go on and and with a nice stress

2407
01:51:47,933 --> 01:51:51,093
Speaker 2: feed day. Maybe not watching maybe watching some sport, either

2408
01:51:51,133 --> 01:51:54,932
Speaker 2: that or the aston the ediotas Eston Villa Football Club

2409
01:51:55,053 --> 01:51:57,173
Speaker 2: DNA hoodie set from Rebel Sports.

2410
01:51:57,293 --> 01:52:02,652
Speaker 3: Just a suggestion both yeah, both, Yeah, fantastic, Right, what

2411
01:52:02,772 --> 01:52:04,572
Speaker 3: a good discussion. Thank you very much.

2412
01:52:04,772 --> 01:52:06,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for listening. For the show. Everyone

2413
01:52:06,933 --> 01:52:09,293
Speaker 2: to the show. It was very fun. The for Matt

2414
01:52:09,293 --> 01:52:12,412
Speaker 2: and Tyler afternoon's podcast will be out in about an

2415
01:52:12,452 --> 01:52:14,253
Speaker 2: hour if you missed anything. They had a great interview

2416
01:52:14,293 --> 01:52:16,732
Speaker 2: with Peter Griffin and all the details around the Amazon

2417
01:52:17,053 --> 01:52:20,812
Speaker 2: Data Center. The powerful Heather Duplicy Ellen is up next.

2418
01:52:20,893 --> 01:52:23,772
Speaker 2: But Tyler, why would I be playing this song from

2419
01:52:23,853 --> 01:52:24,412
Speaker 2: Jane's Addiction?

2420
01:52:24,692 --> 01:52:26,812
Speaker 3: Is this called being Caught Stealing?

2421
01:52:27,053 --> 01:52:27,253
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2422
01:52:27,412 --> 01:52:30,173
Speaker 3: Oh, great tune. And I'm surprised you picked this one

2423
01:52:30,213 --> 01:52:33,372
Speaker 3: actually because the allegations were this gentleman was stealing that

2424
01:52:33,572 --> 01:52:35,972
Speaker 3: cap but you look into the evidence.

2425
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:38,492
Speaker 2: Was he really snatching it? Yeah, I don't think he was,

2426
01:52:39,093 --> 01:52:40,373
Speaker 2: so I'm playing this ironically.

2427
01:52:40,492 --> 01:52:41,173
Speaker 3: It's great show.

2428
01:52:41,253 --> 01:52:44,093
Speaker 2: I think he's been incorrectly shamed on the internet. That

2429
01:52:44,333 --> 01:52:47,812
Speaker 2: Polish ceo accused of stealing ahead of a kid. Son

2430
01:52:47,933 --> 01:52:49,412
Speaker 2: was in his eyes, he was looking the other way.

2431
01:52:49,692 --> 01:52:53,933
Speaker 2: It was for his context was important and judge not this,

2432
01:52:54,133 --> 01:52:55,612
Speaker 2: you be judge yourself all that stuff.

2433
01:52:55,652 --> 01:52:56,213
Speaker 3: Poor bugger.

2434
01:52:56,692 --> 01:53:01,253
Speaker 2: Anyway, have a great Receivia afternoon until tomorrow. Give him

2435
01:53:01,253 --> 01:53:02,732
Speaker 2: taste a kiwi from us.

2436
01:53:08,333 --> 01:53:11,253
Speaker 1: Why feel it down?

2437
01:53:18,492 --> 01:53:19,133
Speaker 15: All right?

2438
01:53:24,372 --> 01:53:24,692
Speaker 9: It's a

2439
01:53:31,293 --> 01:53:41,213
Speaker 1: It's for more from News Talks at b Listen live

2440
01:53:41,452 --> 01:53:44,093
Speaker 1: on air or online, and keep our shows with you

2441
01:53:44,253 --> 01:53:47,173
Speaker 1: wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.