1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: The clerk, and it's looking more likely the fast tracked 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: roads of national significance are going to be told procurement 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: and construction will start in the next three years, but 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: exact time frames and costs are still not yet known. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: So what does it mean for our freight and transport companies? 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Joining me now? Is Transporting New Zealand Interim Chief Executive 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: Dom Calasi, Dom, Welcome to the show. What do you 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: make of this? The fact that, I mean, we always 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: knew that there was going to be tolls, right? Does 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: this surprise you. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Morning, Ryan? Well, scarcely. Absolutely, it doesn't surprise us. It's 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: been signaled for a long time. 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: And how do you feel about it? You'd rather the 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: roads would get built, presumably? 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look the efficient movement afraid it's essential, and as 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: is connecting communities, which allows people to connect. And we 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: are in a bit of a hole at the moment. 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: You know, the AA's reckons. The cost of congestion and 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: ortment alone is over a billion dollars and our current 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: routing system simply can't cope and we need to do 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: something about it sooner rather than later. And there's clear 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: evidence that Tolan can help. 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: There there's a whole list of expressways and motorways, and 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: we won't go through them all, but Belfast to Pegasus 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: for example, the hawks By Expressway, you've got Walkworth to Wellsford. 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Do you guys have a priority list? 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 2: We think the list that has been provided is actually 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: pretty good. You know, there's always going to be more 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: than what can be done at any good time, but 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: we think that list is pretty good. 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you have a preference in terms of order? Because 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: from what I have read, from what the minister's statement, 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: it sounds like they're going to try and do them 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: all at once. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh right, sorry, now I think doing them in parallel 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: is the way to do it. 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Why is that? 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: Because give them all the parts, construction and consenting. It's 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: all a complex approach, right, and if you only did 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: one at a time, right, then it's going to actually 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: take much longer to deliver them all than doing them 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: in parallel. 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: How much do you think Let's assume let's look into 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: the future and think of a beautiful world where all 45 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: of these projects have been completed. How much more efficient 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: would we be would you be? 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: Oh not sorry, I haven't done the math on it, 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: but it would be significant. I mean just off the 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: top of my head, right, in a lot of those areas, 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: there will be not just hours, but tens of hours 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: every year saved for truckers. Right. And if you talk 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: a rough number of say two hundred to two hundred 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars an hour, that's what truck and cough, right, 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: then you're talking about millions of dollars. 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Dom, Thanks very much for your time that storm. 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