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Speaker 3: Morning and Welcome coming up today. Primary Principles are just

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Speaker 3: the latest in the education sector to reject their payoffer.

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Speaker 3: They want a fifteen thousand dollars lump some payment though

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Speaker 3: with US after seven We've got more good news on

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Speaker 3: visitors to the country, the Visa P three travel ideas

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Speaker 3: paying off. Unfortunately, bad news on the councils. They have

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Speaker 3: underestimated how much they need to spend on water and

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Speaker 3: Wellington is in for a blockbuster weekend. They've got the cricket,

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Speaker 3: the cruise ships and the Avatar Premier and then Tim

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Speaker 3: and Carey. We'll do the week that was good.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy outlets.

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Speaker 3: Time magazine is just named its person of the Year

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Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five this morning, and it's not a

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Speaker 3: single person. It is the architects of AI. The magazine says,

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Speaker 3: no one has had as great an impact this year

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Speaker 3: than the people who designed, imagined, and built AI. This

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Speaker 3: was the year, the mag says that we stopped talking

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Speaker 3: about how clunky AI is and instead started sprint to

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Speaker 3: deploy it as fast as possible. And now quote the

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Speaker 3: risk averse are no longer in the driver's seat, which

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Speaker 3: is probably true. But I'll tell you what, the risk

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Speaker 3: a verse is still a really big proportion of us,

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Speaker 3: aren't they. And I think there are broadly three categories

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Speaker 3: of people when it comes to AI. You got the

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Speaker 3: ones using it. You've got the ones apathetic about it

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Speaker 3: and waiting to be convinced that they actually need it.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got the ones who are terrified of it.

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Speaker 3: And the terrified ones are the ones who fascinate me.

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Speaker 3: They're the unions convinced that AI are going to take

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Speaker 3: the jobs. They are the forty seven percent of kiwis

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Speaker 3: who don't trust companies to use AI ethically. They're the

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Speaker 3: rule lovers who want the government to set up more

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Speaker 3: rules to protect us from AI. They're the artists and

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Speaker 3: the musicians who are pretending that AI can be stopped

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Speaker 3: from learning or what they call stealing their ideas. They

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Speaker 3: are the people complaining that AI photos and AI videos

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Speaker 3: and AI songs are somehow evil and misleading. Resisting AI

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Speaker 3: is not a strategy. AI is happening and it's not

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Speaker 3: going to go away. Resisting it feels a little bit

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Speaker 3: like a repeat of the resistance towards the computer thirty

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Speaker 3: forty years ago, which even Time magazine called a bad

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Speaker 3: back then. And then look where the computers are now.

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Speaker 3: The way to deal with AI is to accept that

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Speaker 3: it is going to fundamentally change everything and then figure

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Speaker 3: out how to make it work for you. And the

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Speaker 3: case in point today is Disney giving open AI permission

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Speaker 3: to use its characters, like the Star Wars characters, to

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Speaker 3: make videos. Like Mark Cuban said on the show yesterday,

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Speaker 3: AI is going to be big, and we actually have

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Speaker 3: no idea how big yet.

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Speaker 1: Views of the World in ninety seconds, the.

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Speaker 3: Nobel Peace Prize when a Maria Karina Machado has made

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Speaker 3: it to Norway to collect her reward, being seen in

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Speaker 3: public for the first time since January.

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Speaker 4: This is some of this individual conscious decisions that bring

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Speaker 4: that collective ethos that creates the force to strength and

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Speaker 4: the courage to fight for freedom.

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Speaker 3: Gore Stark warning from NATO about Russia and the idea

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Speaker 3: of war on multiple.

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Speaker 1: Fronts Lucia has brought.

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Speaker 5: We're back to Europe, and we must be prepared for

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Speaker 5: the skill for our grandparents and great grandparents and George

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Speaker 5: and mention it our conflicts reaching every home, every workplace.

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Speaker 3: Now, as we told you yesterday, the feed went with

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Speaker 3: a twenty five basis point count. Trump though wanted more.

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Speaker 6: We should be able to do a lot better than

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Speaker 6: three and four wish scheduled to be at four percent,

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Speaker 6: which is pretty amazing because we have a.

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Speaker 1: You know, deadheaded fed hair in the sky. The head

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Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserve is at.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: A company backed by the Pentagon is showing positive signs

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Speaker 3: with its fentanyl vaccine.

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Speaker 8: I want to make this as easily accessible to people

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Speaker 8: as I possibly can, both to law enforcement, military first responders,

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Speaker 3: Kirstama is employing the junior doctors. This is over in

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Speaker 3: the UK not to strike for five days this side

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Speaker 3: of Christmas as they deal with the super flu.

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Speaker 9: We put an offer on the table to deal with

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Speaker 9: those issues, but that offer can only go forward if

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Speaker 9: they don't take strike catsup, particularly in the run up

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Speaker 9: to Christmas, particularly when we've got a problem with flu,

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Speaker 9: it'll be irresponsible for BM to push through it.

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Speaker 3: And of course the call to get the JAB has

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 11: The figures showed around two and a half thousand patients

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Speaker 11: and the suspicion is that the prediction is that we're

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Speaker 12: The very peak.

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Speaker 3: And that is news of the world in ninety seconds. Now,

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Speaker 3: getting a little bit more detail on the US takeover

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Speaker 3: that Venezuela and oil tanker. So the US claims that

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Speaker 3: the tanker is used to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela

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Speaker 3: and around to foreign terrorist organizations and the one that

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Speaker 3: they're talking about here, presumably is Hezbola. And the tanker

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Speaker 3: has been spotted floating off the coast of a run.

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Speaker 3: It's been identified as the Skipper. Now apparently the ship

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Speaker 3: has been spoofing its position, which basically means broad casting

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Speaker 3: a false location for a very long time. It's reported

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Speaker 3: to be part of the Dark Fleet, which refers to

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Speaker 3: ships that are used to smuggle sanctioned goot goods. It

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Speaker 3: left Venezuela. This time last week. It had one point

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Speaker 3: eight million barrels of heavy crude oil on board. About

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Speaker 3: two hundred thousand of those barrels are no longer on

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Speaker 3: the vessel because it was transferred to another vessel before

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Speaker 3: the US managed to get on board the thing. It

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Speaker 3: was sailing under the flag of Guyana when its position

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Speaker 3: was updated a couple of days prior to the seizure.

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Speaker 3: Guyana says it's falsely flagging flying this flag because it's

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Speaker 3: not registered in Guyana. So here you go, starting to

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Speaker 3: understand a little bit more about it. Imagine twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: By the Way. On the flu in the UK, which

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Speaker 3: we just mentioned before in the news of the world.

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Speaker 3: It is now being called the worst case scenario. They

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Speaker 3: have hospital flu cases jumping fifty five percent in a week.

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Speaker 3: They have a daily average of two thousand, six hundred

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Speaker 3: past Bregg Smith of Generators with US Morning Greg, Morning Heather,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of the fed cut?

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Speaker 13: It was a hawkish cut, so yeah, they came through

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Speaker 10: But it was actually a bit messy, so it was

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Speaker 13: He had nine members won in a small cut, two ordered,

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Speaker 13: no cuddle all, and perhaps no surprise, Trump's appointee, he

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Speaker 13: Cherry said the well positioned to wait and see, so

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Speaker 13: don't count on anything in general unless the data actually weakens. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 13: One cut in twenty twenty six, another in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 13: so they're not really rushing to reopen the stimulus taps.

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Speaker 13: Inflation remains a sticking point. Pell also made a pointed remark.

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Speaker 13: He said Trump's tariffs are doing much of the work

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Speaker 13: in terms of keeping inflation. No surprise at present, responded,

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Speaker 13: have been at least double, and he's going to pick

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Speaker 13: a more aggressive rate color when Pale's term ends in May.

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Speaker 13: So that was interesting, but perhaps no surprise I just

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Speaker 13: remember hear the fans doing all this were fairly limited data.

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Speaker 13: We had that six week government shut down, so that's

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Speaker 13: left them flying partly blind. But yeah, when they meet

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Speaker 3: Now we've just been talking about AI and I see

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Speaker 3: Oracle shares of fallen.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they have, so rough day for Oracle and a

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Speaker 13: rough day for tech. Obviously, a lot of questions around

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Speaker 13: the AI narrative when whether all the spending in particular

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Speaker 13: on with Oracle, So shares down over thirteen percent. Cloud

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Speaker 13: revenue actually going pretty well up thirty four percent, infrastructure

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Speaker 13: sixty eight percent terms of the cloud, but numbers short

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Speaker 10: So actually doing some impressive things.

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Speaker 13: They're building mass of AI our data seen this for

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Speaker 10: But this is coming at a cost.

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Speaker 13: a few months ago they said fifteen, and so it's

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Speaker 13: They got needed a free cash of ten billion dollars.

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Speaker 13: They got over one hundred billion dates. So that's what

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Speaker 13: investas are a bit worried about. There were some positives

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Speaker 13: I suppose investas cast the massive AI demand, that there's

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Speaker 10: And of course I got some ount worried.

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Speaker 13: Of course, with heid Disney investing a billion dollars in

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Speaker 13: open AI, so you're going to be able to make

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Speaker 13: videos with your choice of two hundred Disney characters, including

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Speaker 3: See what you're going for fairst Fontierra a GM yesterday

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Speaker 3: sounded interesting.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that was pretty upbeat. So look, dairy farmers, I've

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Speaker 10: had a solid year.

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Speaker 13: Obviously we've had some weak dairy auctions this year, but

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Speaker 13: not payots have been very strong, Earnings have been better

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Speaker 13: than expected for the co op. There's lots of demands,

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Speaker 13: not the issue's there's obviously lots of supply coming out

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Speaker 13: of South America, of New Zealand in the Big Seven.

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Speaker 10: But ye, look it's been a good year.

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Speaker 13: Fontier's message was we're stable, we're profitable, we're setting up

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Speaker 13: for the next decade. The investment program was talked about

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Speaker 13: as well. Of course they're selling it off, and farmers

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Speaker 13: and need a pretty nice payout next year. That should

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Speaker 13: have some trickle down effects for the broader economy. It's

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Speaker 13: just it wasn't about shrinking. It was about simplifying and

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Speaker 13: doing what they do best. They're cautiously optimistic for the

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Speaker 13: year ahead. Yeah, we know farmers are facing some headwinds

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Speaker 13: in terms of fertilizer and labor costs and compliance, but

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Speaker 13: has a strong payout behind them and in the future

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Speaker 13: looks pretty good and certainly has been a good year

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Speaker 13: for the co op shares up around forty percent twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty five.

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Speaker 19: Are you talking about Simon cow and Mike Hoskin one

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Speaker 3: They probably even share that same pair of Amani jeans.

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Speaker 2: Asking the questions others won't Heather dup c Allen on

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Speaker 3: Heather is a qualified engineer and having received for the

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the principles after seven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: And also it looks like the tweaks to our visa

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Speaker 3: that as well after seven twenty three. Away from seven,

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Speaker 3: I wish now Fonterra's warning farmers to expect lower earnings

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Speaker 20: Morning John, Good morning Heather.

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Speaker 3: Now what is going on here that everyone, the Big

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Speaker 20: I think sort of. You know, commodity prices are a

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Speaker 20: But you know, for us as funders obviously that that

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Speaker 20: I think, you know, so we've certainly seen really historically

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Speaker 20: Have also seen relatively low feed prices as well. So

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Speaker 3: Now you're talking there about the full cast payout, which

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now I've got to talk about the butter John

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Speaker 3: John, thank you very much for your time, Look after yourself,

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Speaker 3: Just on the subject of commodities, price of cocoa, So

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Speaker 3: How about this for a message, Morning, Heather. It's great

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Speaker 3: So what happens next after the tanker was seized?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to rule in or out. I don't

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Speaker 1: talk about it.

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Speaker 21: And a number of lawmakers, Republican and Democrat, are raising

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Speaker 21: concerns about this escalation in the pressure campaign against Venezuela's

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Speaker 21: leader Duro, says Democrat Adam Smith.

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Speaker 1: We should not be trying to dominate the Western hemisphere.

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Speaker 1: This is going to drag US into a conflict that

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Speaker 1: is incredibly costly.

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Speaker 21: Well, we're finding new details about the seizure of this

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Speaker 21: tank or. A US federal court judge issued the Cazre

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Speaker 21: warrant a couple of weeks ago because of activities by

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Speaker 21: this vessel called the Skipper in smuggling Venezuela and Irani

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Speaker 21: oil that was subject to American sanctions. Over six months

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Speaker 21: at the start of this year, that ship transported nearly

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Speaker 21: two million barrels of crude oil from Iran to China.

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Speaker 21: Money from that trade is said to have been used

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Speaker 21: to support the Iranian back Hesberla and also the CAB

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Speaker 21: security force in Iran itself. The tanker was doing this

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Speaker 21: by faking its locations. Its location transponder would suggest it

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Speaker 21: was in one place, when in reality it was one

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Speaker 21: hundreds of kilometers away. As to the wider US pressure campaign,

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Speaker 21: the US for a long time was the largest buyer

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Speaker 21: of Venezuelan oil, but political tensions changed that and China

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Speaker 21: now buys around eighty percent of Venezuela's oil exports. Venezuela

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Speaker 21: has huge stocks of untapped oil reserves and rare minerals.

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Speaker 21: Now the US has carried out what twenty two attacks

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Speaker 21: on Venezuelan drug boats, with eighty seven people killed in

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Speaker 21: those attacks. The Trump administration says these strikes are aimed

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Speaker 21: at stopping the drug trade from Venezuela, and it singled

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Speaker 21: out concerns over fentanyl, with President Trump asserting that every

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Speaker 21: Venezuelan drug boat leads to the deaths of some twenty

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Speaker 21: five thousand Americans, where that number comes from unknown. Meantime,

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Speaker 21: America is the primary and virtually only mass producer and

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Speaker 21: exporterer of fentanyl Mexico, with China sending small amounts as well.

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Speaker 21: So all that is leading to the debate over what

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Speaker 21: really is at the core of this focus on Venezuela.

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Speaker 21: A new Reuters IPSOS poll has forty eight percent here

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Speaker 21: saying the US should not be conducting these boat strikes

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Speaker 21: without first getting court approvals, while around seventy percent opposed

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Speaker 21: US military intervention in Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: Now, things lately are not going ICE as way, are they.

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 21: Now, federal judge has just ordered the immediate release of

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Speaker 21: the man at the center of one of the most

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Speaker 21: notorious deportation cases here, that of Obrego Garcia. He you

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Speaker 21: recalls the Salvadoran who's been living in Maryland with his

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Speaker 21: wife and kids before he was targeted by the trumpetration

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Speaker 21: enforcement the ICE team. The judge says, this case is

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Speaker 21: extraordinary and there's.

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Speaker 17: No doubt about that.

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Speaker 21: Back in March, Nobrego Gascia was flown off to the

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Speaker 21: toughest prison in Latin America. The Seacot prison in Salvador.

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Speaker 21: No one, they say, I was going to get out

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Speaker 21: of that place. But he was released finally, had been

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Speaker 21: sent there initially without due process. Trump claimed he was

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Speaker 21: a member of a terror group and at one point

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Speaker 21: showed a photoshop image of the man supposedly with drug

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Speaker 21: tattoos on his fingers that was fake. He was then

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Speaker 21: flown back to the US, then arrested again to face

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Speaker 21: human smuggling charges. They were going to ship him off

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Speaker 21: to Uganda and then to Garner at one stage, but

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Speaker 21: that all fell apart. The Trump team is calling the

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Speaker 21: release order the actions of an Obama appointed judge. So

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Speaker 21: on goes the politics. Meantime, protesters are clashing with the

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Speaker 21: ICE agents in Minnesota. Trump has been speaking out against

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Speaker 21: Somalian refugees as we've been hearing and saying the US

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Speaker 21: should seek immigrants from Norway, Sweden and Denmark, countries with

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Speaker 21: mainly white populations instead of what he calls and let

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Speaker 21: me quote him carefully, s whole countries.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Richard, thank you very much, appreciate it. Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 3: US correspondent twelve away from seven.

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Speaker 22: International correspondence with NS and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 22: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: So it was the New Zealand Rugby Awards last night,

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Speaker 3: and occasionally these things can be reasonably controversial, but I

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Speaker 3: feel like last night there was some lovely little things

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Speaker 3: that came out of it. The first, of course, is

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Speaker 3: Ardie Savia being recognized. He was recognized as the Player

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Speaker 3: of the Year and also the Super Rugby Pacific Player

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Speaker 3: of the Year. I mean, definitely played extraordinarily well in

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Speaker 3: Super rugby, probably less so at the Test level. But

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Speaker 3: it's very nice, isn't it Because this year was a

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Speaker 3: big year for him. It was his one hundredth Test.

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Speaker 3: He had a great season with Mwana Pacifica. It was

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Speaker 3: his last season for now with Wana Pacifica. He's heading

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Speaker 3: off to the sabbatical in Japan. So nice way to

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Speaker 3: cap it off in December. Put a bow around a

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Speaker 3: nice little recognition. Also Rob Penny, now I reckon Rob

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Speaker 3: Penny has got his vindication on his critics. Ay, think

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Speaker 3: back to the first season of the Crusaders and he

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Speaker 3: came in after Raiser, and back then Raiser was still

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Speaker 3: the golden boy and he couldn't do anything wrong. And

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Speaker 3: so Rob comes in and the Crusader, start playing like

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Speaker 3: rubbish and don't win for the first time, and you know,

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Speaker 3: one thousand years and all of a sudden, Rob needs

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Speaker 3: to be sacked because Rob is a crap coach, well

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Speaker 3: coach of the year. So how about that got on

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Speaker 3: your Rob? I always knew he had it in him. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's easy to say that, now, isn't it, Heather,

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Speaker 3: And this is ree Simon Cole cowl. It's like, I can't.

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Speaker 3: It's like David Bowie. It's Bowie Bowie, And it winds

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Speaker 3: me up when you say Bowie because I know it's Bowie,

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Speaker 3: But then I do the coal and it's the opposite cowl. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: So I was telling you about Simon Cowell earlier and

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Speaker 3: all his weird stuff, and it's smoothie for breakfast, half

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Speaker 3: a crumpet for lunch, half a cruppet for dinner, constantly cleaning,

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Speaker 3: just just wild. Somebody's text and said, adrenal fatigue obsessive

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Speaker 3: behavior can be a coping mechanism. Now, I thought we'd

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Speaker 3: set all the adrenal fatigue thing, and I thought we

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Speaker 3: had all decided adrenal fatigue was in fact a hoax.

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Speaker 3: That is peddled by happies. Have we changed our mind

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Speaker 3: on that ten away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather dol And on the my casking Breakfast with a

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Speaker 2: Vida Retirement Communities News tog sad.

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Speaker 3: Bhither your news department was surely joking. I worke to

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Speaker 3: hearing an outrageous increase in the primary principle salaries. I've

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Speaker 3: just showered and I've missed the discussion. But it was

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Speaker 3: a league pool, wasn't it, No, John X principle, not

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Speaker 3: at all a league pool. I'll run you through it,

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Speaker 3: and just to take when I get a chance, can

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Speaker 3: I just say that we're going to talk about hemp

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Speaker 3: in about twenty minutes time. It kind of blows. I

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Speaker 3: cannot understand why we have these outrageous rules around hemp

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Speaker 3: where you can't grow the hemp, and now even now

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Speaker 3: like the light and rules require the hemp growers to

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Speaker 3: go to the police and say, well, with hemp, it's

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Speaker 3: not marijuana. Now, I'm guessing that's probably the clue is

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Speaker 3: that they look the same and they got a little

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Speaker 3: bit of same same stuff going on in there. So

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Speaker 3: we've just gotten here. Smoke enough hemp you can get high.

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Speaker 3: Probably so we're gonna it's like just the years on.

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Speaker 3: At the time it probably seemed a good idea, but

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Speaker 3: years on, you go, aren't we crazy? Sometimes? Anyway? That's

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Speaker 3: with us quarter past seven right now, it's six away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the inns and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fiz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: So after the spring market surge, our house prices hit

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Speaker 3: a relatively large speed bump in November. Month on month,

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Speaker 3: the average asking price dropped three point five percent. This

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Speaker 3: is across the country. The asking price is now eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty two thousand dollars, so it's down about

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Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars compared to October. Despite the month on

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Speaker 3: month dropped house prices are still up zero point eight

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Speaker 3: percent for the year. There were only a few regions

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Speaker 3: where asking prices went up. The West Coast was up

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Speaker 3: four point nine percent. How good for you. Taranaki was

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Speaker 3: up three point four percent, Nelson, Tasman area up two

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Speaker 3: point three percent. The biggest drops were in Hawke's Bay

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Speaker 3: down ten point two percent, and then Gisbon down eight

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Speaker 3: point six percent. However, that drop for Gisbon has come

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Speaker 3: off a major high for the year. They have had

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Speaker 3: the biggest asking price increase for the year at more

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Speaker 3: than twenty one percent. The average asking price for the

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Speaker 3: main centers have also come down as well. Auckland is

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Speaker 3: now one point zero five millions, that's a million and

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Speaker 3: fifty thousand, Hamilton is eight hundred and twenty seven thousand,

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Speaker 3: Wellington is eight hundred thousand, and christ Church is sitting

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Speaker 3: on seven hundred and twenty thousand dollars, right, So the principles,

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Speaker 3: So what the principles is? If you didn't catch us earlier,

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Speaker 3: I actually do think the bear is repeating because I

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Speaker 3: just think it's going to give you just I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to preload you for this interview so you can

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Speaker 3: understand what we're dealing with here. Principles already getting about

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Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars in one development fund. Then they're getting

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Speaker 3: an increase in like a numeracy and literacy fund of

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Speaker 3: between three and eleven thousand dollars. To add that together

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Speaker 3: maximum twenty one thousand dollars increase. Then they're getting a

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Speaker 3: four point six percent pay increase offer of I think

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Speaker 3: it's over two years, but that's not enough. Now they

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Speaker 3: want fifteen thousand dollars on top of that, and that

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Speaker 3: seems to be the thing that is holding everything up.

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Speaker 3: So you know, you can compare that to what you've got.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know who. When's the last time

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Speaker 3: you got a thirty six thousand dollars pay increase if

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Speaker 3: I'm calculating that correctly, in one year, And you can

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Speaker 3: decide for yourself if that seems I don't know reasonable

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Speaker 3: to you. Look, I have resisted discussing this for the

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Speaker 3: last few days, but I think now it has reached

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Speaker 3: the point where we probably need to. And this is

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Speaker 3: the two degrees ad. Heather that two degrees AD is

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Speaker 3: the singularly most annoying ad in the history of radio advertising.

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Speaker 3: And I got this text just now. I have been

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Speaker 3: getting texts on this on the daily. But do you

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Speaker 3: know what we and one of my friends even said

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Speaker 3: to me the other day, Oh, two degrees AD. Now

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Speaker 3: I've thought about it, and I was like, okay, two

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Speaker 3: degrees they pay us. So this is this helpful? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is helpful to two degrees. I'm

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Speaker 3: helping two degrees by now attracting your attention to the ad.

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Speaker 3: So you're going to hear it the rap ad and

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Speaker 3: then we can talk about this perhaps later in the show.

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Speaker 3: Once you've heard it. When you hear it, send me

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Speaker 3: a text, tell me yes or no on it, and

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Speaker 3: we'll discuss it maybe in an hour's time or so.

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Speaker 3: Principles with us.

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Speaker 11: Next News Dog.

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Speaker 8: ZB so.

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Speaker 2: Tough on power, sharp on insight, Heather Duper see Allen

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Speaker 2: on the mic asking Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced the

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Speaker 2: impossible News Togs.

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Speaker 3: EDB, Good morning. Just as we start to get some

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Speaker 3: wins on the board regarding education, unfortunately another education payoffer

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00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: has been rejected. This time it's the primary Principles who've

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00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: turned down the four point six percent pay rise. Robin

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Speaker 3: Brown is the principle of Bertuville School and a member

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Speaker 3: of the NZI negotiating team and with us morning.

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Speaker 23: Robin, good morning. How are you going?

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Speaker 3: Heather? Very well? Thank you? So is the sticking point

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Speaker 3: here the fifteen thousand dollars curriculum change allowance that the

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Speaker 3: secondary principles got, which you guys want as.

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Speaker 23: Well or yes, particularly, I mean that is substantially more

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Speaker 23: than we were offered in our offer.

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Speaker 3: How much were you offered?

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Speaker 23: We weren't offered anything for curriculum correctum change at all?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Were you offered a professional learning and development fund

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Speaker 3: of ten thousand dollars?

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Speaker 23: We were, yes, but that was not something that had

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Speaker 23: actually been put forward in our teams.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and ask that cool. And were you offered an

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Speaker 3: increase in the literacy and numerousy salary component of up

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Speaker 3: to eleven thousand dollars a year?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, but that will be removed after two years, okay.

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Speaker 3: And you were also offered four point six percent pay

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Speaker 3: rise yeap.

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Speaker 23: Which is still below the inflation rate, which has time

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Speaker 23: to mount to a cut in our in our pay rise.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So you've been offered up to twenty one thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars plus four point six percent, but you still want

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Speaker 3: another fifteen on top of that.

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Speaker 23: What we want is recognition for the unsustainable workload and

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Speaker 23: curriculum upheaval that we're having to deal with at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay. So if they say to you, if they so,

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Speaker 3: if they say to you, we recognize all your work,

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Speaker 3: you will take the offer. Or if they say to you,

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Speaker 3: we give you fifteen thousand dollars for recognizing all your work,

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Speaker 3: you'll take the offer.

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Speaker 23: We will take that offer. Out to our principles and

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Speaker 23: see whether they would be prepared to take that offer.

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Speaker 15: Robin.

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Speaker 3: The reason I'm asking you this is that a lot

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Speaker 3: of money that you are asking. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 3: are basically asking for an increased payment of thirty six

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars plus four point six percent. No one else

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Speaker 3: gets that kind of money, And.

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Speaker 23: I think what we're looking at is what has been

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Speaker 23: offered to secondary principles, and if we were made an

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Speaker 23: offer similar to that, we would have taken that out

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Speaker 23: to our principles. At the moment, our principles do not

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Speaker 23: feel that the offer we've been given is fair and

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Speaker 23: it doesn't recognize the workload that we're having to sustain

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Speaker 23: at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Robin. I mean, I don't want to belistle the good

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Speaker 3: work you guys are doing, but aren't the secondary principles

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Speaker 3: actually dealing with greater curriculum upheaval than you guys at

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Speaker 3: primary level are.

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Speaker 23: That's a question that I've been asked one hundreds of times,

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Speaker 23: and I'm sure any principles across the country will tell

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Speaker 23: you that the workloads for principles of principles across the

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Speaker 23: country is huge, whether your secondary or primary the workload

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Speaker 23: is enormous, and primary you have far few fewer people

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Speaker 23: in order to implement curriculum change. This is not a

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Speaker 23: competition between secondary and primary principles. This is a obligation

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Speaker 23: for our sector to be paid for the workload that

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Speaker 23: we're expected to be.

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Speaker 3: Just tell me what I am misunderstanding here, because for

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Speaker 3: the secondary principles, I'm seeing that they are having to

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Speaker 3: overhaul the whole NCEEA system, which is massive across a

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Speaker 3: lot of subjects at quite a technical level at the

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Speaker 3: end of school. Whereas for you guys, you're basically introducing

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Speaker 3: structured literacy and reading substructured literacy and maths, which is

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Speaker 3: basically simplifying what you're doing because it's very explicit in

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Speaker 3: what it tells you to do. So you just have

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Speaker 3: to follow the manual plus an hour of reading, writing

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Speaker 3: and maths. Like, if you compare those two things, the

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Speaker 3: fifteen thousand is much more warranted at secondary level than

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Speaker 3: at primary, don't.

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Speaker 23: You think at the moment where now, until I've heard

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Speaker 23: read duration of that curriculum. We were dropped that curriculum

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Speaker 23: in October for implementation, and it is significantly different to

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Speaker 23: the previous two curriculum drops that we've had, we're having

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Speaker 23: to change. We've not seen an assessment component of it.

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Speaker 23: We're waiting daily for updates. We're getting updates on the

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Speaker 23: last days of term. The workload is huge. Reading, writing,

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Speaker 23: maths are foundational. They are what established the rest of

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Speaker 23: the curriculum for the rest of schooling through children's lives.

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Speaker 23: You can't compare the difference in that application across the

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Speaker 23: school because not only are we implementing those three core areas,

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Speaker 23: we're also having to look at the rest of the curriculum,

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Speaker 23: which is all being implemented the following year. So the

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Speaker 23: workload is just unsustainable and that is verified by the

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Speaker 23: fact that we know we've had nearly a thousand prints

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Speaker 23: leave in the last three years.

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Speaker 3: All right, Robin, thanks, thank you for tom I probably

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Speaker 3: have to leave it there. You have a lovely day.

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Speaker 3: That's Robin Brown, the principle of Birchville School and a

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Speaker 3: member of member of n z EIS Negotiating Team twelve

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Speaker 3: past seven.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Ellen, it looks like those are.

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Speaker 3: Recent tweaks to our visa settings are paying off. Just

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Speaker 3: one month into the new Visa Free travel pathway being

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Speaker 3: in place. Over thirteen thousand Chinese and Pacific travelers have

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Speaker 3: come here on it. This is the setup. By the way,

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Speaker 3: if you don't know what I'm talking about, that that

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Speaker 3: is basically for travelers who already have eligible Australian visas

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Speaker 3: to come here without having applied to do so. David

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Speaker 3: Cooper is the CEO and the director of New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Immigration Partners. Morning, David, Well, Heather call those numbers a success.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely people that may have come to museum.

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Speaker 24: I guess what the book is.

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Speaker 20: Well, we're going for Hop Across the Ditch.

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Speaker 10: And New Zealand as well.

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Speaker 3: Now is this a case of if you make it

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Speaker 3: easy enough, people will come? Simple as that?

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Speaker 10: Ah so?

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Speaker 11: And also the promotion I think it has been a

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Speaker 11: lot of promotion in China to the travel industry.

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Speaker 3: For your time, listen, David, I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to leave it there. I'd love to talk to you

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Speaker 3: about this big Your line is unfortunately very dodgy. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty five and technology hasn't caught up. David Cooper,

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Speaker 3: CEO and Director of New Zealand Immigration Partners. Listen, I

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Speaker 3: just want to give you next week is a big week.

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Speaker 3: We've got the GDP being announced obviously for Q three,

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Speaker 3: and probably a reasonably big revision for Q two. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Q two was the horror one. A and Z has

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Speaker 3: put out a note revising what it thinks is going

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Speaker 3: to happen in Q three or what it thinks has

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Speaker 3: happened in Q three. Next week, they reckon, we're going

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Speaker 3: to get told that the New Zealand economy grew by

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Speaker 3: one percent in Q three, which is double what they

771
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Speaker 3: were picking before, which is zero point five and it

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Speaker 3: is more than double what the RB and Z is

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Speaker 3: forecasting of zero point four percent. This of course means

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Speaker 3: like that's the great thing. It wasn't that bad the

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Speaker 3: last you know. We can take a win there. However,

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Speaker 3: of course, the flow and implications are what happens with

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Speaker 3: the OCR. OCR will start to increase. It will be

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Speaker 3: that A and Z it says steady next year, but

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Speaker 3: then the hikes start in February twenty seven, fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 3: Let's deal with HEMP next the Mike.

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Speaker 3: B Hither these principles are delusional. I'm in construction. I

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Speaker 3: just let thirteen staff go, I haven't had a pay

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Speaker 3: rise in four years. This makes me sick. Yeah, I

786
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Speaker 3: think we'll have to come back to the text on

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Speaker 3: that as a fair for you coming in seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 3: Now the government slashing red taper wants around the once

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Speaker 3: controversial hemp industry. Farmers will no longer need a license

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Speaker 3: for crops with less than one percent PHC. They still

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Speaker 3: have to notify the cops though, so the police know

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Speaker 3: it's not marijuana that's been grown, just hemp. Richard Barge

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Speaker 3: is the president of the New Zealand Hemp Industries Association

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Speaker 3: and with us morning Richard.

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Speaker 24: Good morning here. Thanks for the opportunity ask good to.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you. How is it that hemp has ended

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Speaker 3: up being so regulated given it's not actually marijuana.

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Speaker 24: It's due to the fact that we're part of the

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Speaker 24: Misuse of Drugs Act nineteen seventy five, and so all

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Speaker 24: parts of the cannabis plant are considered a class seed drug.

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Speaker 24: So when they created the two thousand and six regulations,

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Speaker 24: they carved out and defined industrial hemp as being between

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Speaker 24: point three to five and point five percent THHC. So

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Speaker 24: now we have a definition of what industrial hempers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it was basically us just getting really really

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Speaker 3: anxious about weed and not understanding the difference.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, there's been a long

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Speaker 24: time when prohibition has led to the outlawing of marijuana

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Speaker 24: and that stopped the hemp industry and its tracks in

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Speaker 24: nineteen thirty. So it's great to have it back again.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now the changes that we're announced yesterday, do they go

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Speaker 3: far enough for you?

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Speaker 24: Well, they're really good news for the growing for the

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Speaker 24: growers and the people that are actually going to produce

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Speaker 24: the raw materials that industry is going to be using.

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Speaker 24: So the supply chain is going to be well enhanced.

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Speaker 24: And it leads to the question that we've always had.

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Speaker 24: You know, the farmers are going to say am I

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Speaker 24: going to sell it to? And how much am I

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Speaker 24: going to make? So the next step is to get

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Speaker 24: the value chain established.

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Speaker 3: What are we actually using it for? I mean, I

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Speaker 3: know that we use it for clothing and stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: but anything else.

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Speaker 24: Well, the mainstay of the New Zealand industry actually at

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Speaker 24: the moment is seed for In twenty eighteen, we finally

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Speaker 24: got it across the line for human consumption, but unfortunately

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Speaker 24: at the time, we lost the ability to sell the

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Speaker 24: co products to the animal markets, which means, you know,

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Speaker 24: it's hard to get the economics working when you don't

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Speaker 24: have a way of selling those co products and making

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Speaker 24: revenue from the all parts of the plant, which is

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Speaker 24: what we're after, full plant utilization.

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Speaker 3: What are you eating it for?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 24: For the central fatty acids. It's got a perfect ratio

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Speaker 24: of AMEGA three and six and also a massive amount

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Speaker 24: of protein and there's dietary fiber.

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Speaker 10: In there as well.

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Speaker 3: Who knew, Richard, Thanks very much, appreciate it. Richard Barge,

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Speaker 3: president of the New Zealand Hemp Industries Association. I was

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Speaker 3: reading somewhere as well, it's fantastic for anxiety.

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Speaker 15: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just think about the woman so much trouble for

846
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Speaker 3: saying this. Think about the woman in your life. Buy

847
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Speaker 3: her some hemp this Christmas and make her eat it,

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Speaker 3: and look, Christmas might be a little bit more pleasant.

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Speaker 19: Will it do anything for my adreanal fatigue?

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, yeah, it'll do something for you, your fake

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Speaker 3: news adrenal fatigue. Lord above, Okay, Now, I think I'm

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Speaker 3: I think I'm right in saying this. Lord it's, you know,

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Speaker 3: like this has got completely out of hand. But I

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Speaker 3: think I am right in saying that. I'm happy to

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Speaker 3: report to you that the Ruth Richardson Nicola Willis finance

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Speaker 3: girl on finance girl debate is going to happen next week,

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Speaker 3: not next yet, next week, which I think is how

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Speaker 3: we we just need to get this thing over and

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Speaker 3: done with, strike while the iron's hot. The plan is,

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Speaker 3: the rough plan is for it to be held at

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Speaker 3: Parliament so that all media can stream it rather than

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Speaker 3: picking favorites. Still a bit of a niggle about who's

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Speaker 3: gonna moderate it. Nikola wants Toby man High from the

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Speaker 3: spino Off, who's a fantastic guy, but he does lean left, well,

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Speaker 3: at least his publication does, and Nicola will be doing that.

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Speaker 3: So it looks like she's friendly with the left and

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Speaker 3: not so friendly with the right, and she's trying to

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Speaker 3: sort of, you know, position herself differently to Ruth Richardson.

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Speaker 3: Taxpayers Union doesn't love Toby doing it. Taxpayers Union wants

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Speaker 3: somebody else, so hopefully they can reach a compromise and

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Speaker 3: it doesn't fall over. Because I'm getting my popcorn ready already.

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Speaker 3: Twenty past seven.

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Speaker 3: so I'll tell you what. If there's one thing that's

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Speaker 3: becoming apparent watching the battle between Netflix and Paramount to

904
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Speaker 3: buy Warner Brothers, it's that in the end it might

905
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Speaker 3: actually be Donald Trump who picks the winner. Here, if

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Speaker 3: you had to say who he would choose when he

907
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Speaker 3: does pick the winner, you'd have to lean towards Paramount

908
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Speaker 3: over Netflix. This is the one with the hostile offer

909
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Speaker 3: because Paramount's CEO is David Allison, the son of Trump's

910
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Speaker 3: mate Larry Allison. And you'd have to imagine it's not

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Speaker 3: only appealing to Trump to look after his mates, which

912
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Speaker 3: he does, but also and maybe more so, to have CNN,

913
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Speaker 3: which he hates, currently owned by Warner Brothers and therefore

914
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Speaker 3: in the hands of an ally the Netflix alternative he

915
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Speaker 3: won't like as much. It's that CNN is sold off

916
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Speaker 3: to someone else as yet unspecified, and then tipping the

917
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Speaker 3: scales further for Paramount, as Jared Kushner, Trump's son in

918
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Speaker 3: law helping Paramount with this deal. So if I was

919
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Speaker 3: putting money on it, I'd say, these are the guys

920
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Speaker 3: are going to take it out. But what's becoming increasingly

921
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: clear is that anyone who was worried that the biggest

922
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 3: risk of a second Donald Trump administration was him doing

923
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Speaker 3: something wacky like introducing fascism to the US was way off.

924
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: It's not fascism that's the problem. It's cronyism. Even the

925
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Speaker 3: Ukra deal Ukraine deal that he's reportedly pitching stands to

926
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Speaker 3: benefit apparently his friends. Financially, the dealings with the Middle

927
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Speaker 3: East that he's got going on benefit him and his family.

928
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Speaker 3: Business people have clearly realized they need to suck up

929
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Speaker 3: to him to get ahead. When we had the US

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Speaker 3: businessman and generally top character Mark Cuban on the show yesterday.

931
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Speaker 3: Normally Mark has a strong case of TDS, but right

932
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Speaker 3: now he needs Trump to give him a concession on

933
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Speaker 3: the pharmaceutical fees so that he can start manufacturing in

934
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Speaker 3: the US, and so he's relatively quiet on the Trump criticism.

935
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Speaker 3: You don't need me to tell you how problematic it

936
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Speaker 3: is for a national leader to make political calls based

937
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Speaker 3: on how much money they're going to get from it.

938
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Speaker 3: Worse though, is if the behavior sticks around after that

939
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Speaker 3: politician is gone.

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Speaker 1: Ever do for ce ellens?

941
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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go, hither the principle you just interviewed.

942
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Speaker 3: If the job is unsustainable, no amount of money is

943
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Speaker 3: going to change that. I'm getting tired of their moaning.

944
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: Jeep is, Hither these school teachers and principles are a joke.

945
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Speaker 3: Nothing they do, al say tells me that they actually

946
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Speaker 3: want to make the kids' lives better. Jeep is, Heather,

947
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Speaker 3: how do you work through your ten weeks summer holiday

948
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Speaker 3: makes it hard to support the or how about you

949
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Speaker 3: work through your ten weeks we're a holiday. I think

950
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Speaker 3: it's twelve weeks. Actually in some cases isn't it? Anyway

951
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Speaker 3: makes it hard to support the primary principles. When you

952
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Speaker 3: hear that entitled rubbish, Hither these principles are delusional. Hither

953
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Speaker 3: you should take the money off them for the falling

954
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Speaker 3: standards and reading, writing and maths. Here my workload would

955
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Speaker 3: be unsustainable too if I had to do all of

956
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Speaker 3: my work in thirty six weeks instead of forty eight.

957
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Speaker 3: Here that everyone is sick to death of the teacher. Seriously,

958
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Speaker 3: it's not rocket scientist science. If you don't like what

959
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: you do, do something else. That is honestly just the tiniest,

960
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Speaker 3: tiniest sample of just the endless texts that we're getting

961
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Speaker 3: on this subject. So I just I've thought this for

962
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Speaker 3: a while, and I increasingly think this. I think that

963
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Speaker 3: the education bargaining is losing the support of the public

964
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Speaker 3: wildly because I mean, as I say, point me to

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Speaker 3: somebody else who's got a thirty six thousand dollar payment

966
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Speaker 3: plus four points six over two years. Anyway, counsels seem

967
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Speaker 3: to have completely underestimated how much they need to spend

968
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Speaker 3: on water. We'll deal with that next.

969
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Speaker 2: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic Heather Dupless Allen on the mic, asking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently since

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three News Talks head be Ah.

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Speaker 3: Heather, you will never be able to fly via the

973
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Speaker 3: States ever again after saying that, do you know what,

974
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: I hadn't even I hadn't even considered that. But if

975
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Speaker 3: you haven't caught up on what's going on with Donald

976
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: Trump and the changes that he's made, you want to

977
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Speaker 3: go to the States, you're gonna have to hand over

978
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Speaker 3: your passwords, by the looks of things, for your social

979
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Speaker 3: media accounts, and they're going to have a look at

980
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Speaker 3: it and make sure you haven't said anything that looks

981
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Speaker 3: a bit terroristy or anti Trump in the last five years.

982
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think everybody has reached the same conclusion.

983
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: It's just not worth it, Like what a kerfuffle. And

984
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Speaker 3: that's only the start of all the things you're going

985
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Speaker 3: to do. And once they google it, they're going to

986
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Speaker 3: google me and they're going to go absolutely not, You're

987
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Speaker 3: not allowed. And that is the decision that I, unfortunately

988
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Speaker 3: have just taken without even realizing it. Listen today, UK time,

989
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Speaker 3: it's going to be the end of neighbors, end of

990
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Speaker 3: an institution. And if you're thinking, hold on, why haven't

991
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 3: we been here already? You're not wrong. It was axed

992
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two after Channel five dropped it over

993
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Speaker 3: in the UK, but then of course Amazon MGM Studio

994
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: stepped in to try and save it. But if this

995
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Speaker 3: is a thing that I think we're learning, just as

996
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: kind of legacy media really struggles existential crisis, aren't we

997
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: learning that if somebody steps in tries to save that magazine,

998
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 3: save that show, save that channel, it's only ever temporary,

999
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: save that news bulletin, and it just prolongs it. But

1000
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Speaker 3: it dies anyway. So it's forty years, nine thousand episodes,

1001
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: Guy Pearce, Margo Robbie plenty to thank it for. But

1002
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Speaker 3: today will be the end of Neighbors, twenty two away

1003
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: from It turns out councils may have underestimated how much

1004
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: they're going to have to spend on upgrading their water systems.

1005
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 3: The local Water Done Well model has come in nine

1006
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: billion dollars higher than councils estimated under their own long

1007
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: term plans. That our hat Stults is the mayor of Gisbon,

1008
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Speaker 3: mourning her.

1009
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Speaker 14: Head, good morning.

1010
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: How is it that council's got this estimate so wrong?

1011
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 14: So usually when councils do be planning or their ten

1012
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 14: year planning, you would plan for those first three years

1013
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 14: with assets management planning and the finances around that, and

1014
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 14: then the next seven years and your ten year plan

1015
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Speaker 14: will be less detailed. What we did here was take

1016
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Speaker 14: a proper look at the whole life of this project,

1017
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Speaker 14: so I think it was more in detailed asset management

1018
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Speaker 14: planning and also then the financial sustainability and the long

1019
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 14: term affordability cost effectiveness that went into those costings.

1020
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So would you not think, though, if you're going

1021
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: to just have a look at it kind of a

1022
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: once overlightly look, which is fair enough, that you would

1023
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: go more conservative and estimated estimated to the high side

1024
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: rather than the low side.

1025
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Speaker 14: I think what we compared these costings were with was

1026
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 14: our ten year planning costings which we had before, So

1027
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 14: I think we did more in depth planning. And there

1028
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 14: are different economic regulations, different environmental standards there we had

1029
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 14: to take into account. So I think we are comparing

1030
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Speaker 14: a ten year plan that was not as in depth

1031
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 14: with something that was really really detailed.

1032
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, but is this not the problem with what

1033
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: has been going on at council level, which is that

1034
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: councils do not properly understand how much money they have

1035
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: to put into infrastructure, and then it's a surprise when have.

1036
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 8: To do it.

1037
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 14: We are definitely dealing with the generation of under investment.

1038
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 20: I agree with what you're saying.

1039
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 6: We do look at what we have to do, but

1040
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 6: often it.

1041
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 14: Is shorter term planning. We look at three year chunks

1042
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 14: of planning. Sometimes for asset management we do look at

1043
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 14: thirty year planning, but the costings don't go with that.

1044
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 14: So I agree with you, we do need to have

1045
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 14: this longer term look. Also, we are now able to

1046
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Speaker 14: borrow over the lifetime of these assets with water and

1047
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 14: costings being of ring fence, so I do think it

1048
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 14: is a smarter way of looking at these longer term investments.

1049
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So in which case then there is some upside

1050
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: to having the government involved here.

1051
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 14: I think the government did a lot of planning to

1052
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 14: make sure that our guardrails in place. We had to

1053
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 14: have several hurdles that we had to jump over in

1054
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 14: order to show that our plans are compliant. We not

1055
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 14: only looked at finance and revenues sufficiency, but there are

1056
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Speaker 14: also the economic regulation. We had to make sure therese

1057
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Speaker 14: accountability requirements. We also had to look like stuff at

1058
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Speaker 14: no privatization risk, no and the appropriate transfer of control.

1059
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Speaker 14: So I do think the government put in place requirements

1060
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Speaker 14: that expect high level plans of us that our communities

1061
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 14: deserve but also can afford in the long run.

1062
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Speaker 3: Okay, now we've ended up with thirty eight of the

1063
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: councils combining their services into the twelve big entities, which

1064
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: is kind of what we wanted. We wanted that consolidation,

1065
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: and then seven of them are going along. Is this

1066
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: roughly what we expected?

1067
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 14: I think that's what we expected because we are all

1068
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 14: so unique here in Dispin. We are going in house,

1069
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 14: we've always done that, we've invested over time.

1070
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Speaker 20: Then we're in not too bad a position.

1071
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 14: But there are smaller councils that really need that economy

1072
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 14: of scale to go together. So I think what Minister

1073
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 14: what's got in the end was what they were hoping for.

1074
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 14: But also here that even though we are going in

1075
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Speaker 14: the house, we are setting up our structure that down

1076
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 14: the line we can latch onto a bigger or a

1077
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Speaker 14: different CCO if things change.

1078
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Speaker 20: In the future.

1079
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Speaker 3: All right, Rahet, thank you very much, really appreciate time

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Speaker 3: ahead storts local government. New Zealand Vice President listen, I

1081
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: have a question for you. Do you think it's time

1082
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Speaker 3: that a New Zealand retires the safety video. I know

1083
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: that we talk about this all the time, but the

1084
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: reason I'm asking this is the Herald's reporting today that

1085
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Speaker 3: the latest one that they've been working on has been

1086
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Speaker 3: grounded because of the cost saving right because the New

1087
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Speaker 3: Zealand doesn't have the money, so they can can hardly

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Speaker 3: be spending the money on making one of these elaborate ads.

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00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: And what that means is that the one that they've

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00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: got at the moment, which features Steven Adams, this one

1091
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: has been there such a long time that by the

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Speaker 3: time they get the new one, maybe sometime later next year,

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00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: it'll be one of the biggest gaps between the old

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00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: one and the new one, you know, between replacing it. Anyway,

1095
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: reason I'm asking you this is I was sitting on

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Speaker 3: the plane the other day and watching the safety VADO

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Speaker 3: and I don't I don't have a problem with the

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00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: safety video. I've enjoyed them through the years, and I've

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00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: defended them through the years. But I was sitting there

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00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: watching it, thinking it feels like it was a time

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Speaker 3: and place thing.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 3: Rob Fife was the boss of E New Zealand, and

1104
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 3: it was funky and it was cheeky, and it was

1105
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: going out there and kind of knocking things out of

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00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: the park and just doing things a bit differently. That

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00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: is not the airline it is anymore. I mean, for

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00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: God's sake, they've taken your disposable cup away from you

1109
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: and your newspaper and the Cora Club, right and most

1110
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: of us can't even be bothered paying for Cora Club anymore. So,

1111
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: like it's just a completely different thing. So I just

1112
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: wonder if this is the they should just they should

1113
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 3: just bite the bullets and say, hey, that was fun.

1114
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 3: These videos are getting too long, five minutes you want,

1115
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: Glenn wants to watch this movie on the plane, and

1116
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: so we're just going to go back to something that

1117
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: just lasts a minute long, tells you the basics, and

1118
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 3: we're out. It's time, isn't it. It's time? Sixteen Away

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00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: from It.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Asking breakerst a full show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: now ad By News Talks.

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Speaker 3: At Me Here the Yes Retire the Air New Zealand video.

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00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm just back from flying all over the world, different airlines,

1124
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: they just do stock standard, quick, fast and done. And

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00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: also another you know what another reason to retire it

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00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: for is is that inevitably when they release the next one,

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00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: we're going to have this conversation again like we do

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00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: every single time, and that conversation also gets tired, doesn't it.

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Speaker 19: And also do they not have the technology because you

1130
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 19: sit down in your seat and you know it says,

1131
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 19: you know, hello Heather or hello Glenn, you know on

1132
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 19: the on the screen because it knows who you are.

1133
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 19: If there's the case, does it not also know that

1134
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 19: you were just on a flight on the way to

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Speaker 19: somewhere and you're now just coming back a few days later.

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00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: So you get it like a dispensation not to watch, correct.

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00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 19: I don't think I've forgotten what the safety instructions were

1138
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 19: between the flight over Itain, but it might not have.

1139
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 3: Been paying attention the last time.

1140
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 19: Definitely what it was because it went for three and

1141
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 19: a half minutes.

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is true. I mean I find it hard.

1143
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: I think the people largely complaining about it are the

1144
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 3: people who catch the majority of flights and have to

1145
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: sit there watching the same thing repetitively. It kind of

1146
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: becomes like a song or like you know when you

1147
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: read your children books at night and you can just

1148
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: sit there with you and actually close your eyes and

1149
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: just start reading. Young Eggy Peck was an architect and

1150
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: has been since he was two when he built a

1151
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: great tower, you know, like you can do.

1152
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 19: See. I made them read it to me, which is

1153
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 19: why they.

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00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 10: Readers.

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00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 3: You can just shut your eyes with a safety video

1156
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: and just mine along with it, can't you.

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00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 19: I assume that's why you put your own oxygen mask

1158
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 19: on first, because and then the kids can lead you

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 19: to the right exit because they were paying attention while

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00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 19: you weren't.

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00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: So listen. The Herald's reporting this morning that ASBJESU this

1162
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: is not going to make anyone happy, ASB is temporary

1163
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: temporarily removing the discounts that it offers some of its

1164
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: home loan customers. So it's apparently told the mortgage brokers,

1165
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: but it hasn't told anyone else yet that you can

1166
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: still get the discounts on the sixth month and the

1167
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: floating rates, the short term stuff, but on the longer

1168
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: term stuff one year and up, you're not going to

1169
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: get a discount anymore. And some are reading this like

1170
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: a quasi interest rate hike, right. So whereas Westpax just

1171
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: had the courage to go out there and say it's

1172
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 3: going up thirty basis points and then copped it big

1173
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 3: time from everybody, ASB has done it on the quiet.

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00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: Because if you think about it, if everybody, if they're

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00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: offering a discount to basically everybody, then the discounted rate

1176
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: is actually the base rate. Right, So if you're whipping

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00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 3: thirty points thirty basis points off everything, then that is

1178
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 3: basically what that is your base rate. Everything else is

1179
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: just fluff. So if you stop offering it, you have

1180
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: essentially hiked your interest rates.

1181
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 13: Right.

1182
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: Apparently according to the Herald, other banks are still discounting.

1183
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: So if you're with anybody else, if you're with any

1184
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: of the any of the other majors of art from

1185
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: Westpac and ASB, you're probably okay at the moment. And

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00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: can I say, like, this is to the people who

1187
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: say we never talk about them enough, and these are

1188
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: people with deposits, and I do feel their pain because

1189
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 3: they say, oh, you're always happy when the rate comes

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00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: down because the mortgage, you know, mortgage has come down,

1191
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: But what about the deposit? The other I'll tell you what.

1192
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: I put some money on term deposits, just short term

1193
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: deposit last month. Bank told me to do it, so

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00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: I was like, whatever, Yeah, did it. I got my

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00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: first interest payment this month twenty three dollars. That's right,

1196
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 3: got twenty three dollars, which is what not even six

1197
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: dollars a week? I thought, no, I'm not doing that again.

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: But if you're relying on that kind of you're not

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Speaker 3: going to rely on twenty four dollars for an income,

1200
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: are you? But if you're relying on your deposit rates

1201
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: for an income, man alive. What a time. Sorry to

1202
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: be part of that. We're going to go to Wellington next.

1203
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: They're having a bonanza of a weekend stand by eight

1204
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: away from eight.

1205
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Heather do pusy Ellen on the mic asking Breakfast were

1206
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: the Defender and.

1207
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: News Togs dead b Heather are actually A and Z

1208
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: has written to me telling me they are removing the

1209
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: discount too, so you can add another bank to that.

1210
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: Thanks for the heads up. Right now it is seven

1211
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: away from seven out to Big Old Weekend in Wellington.

1212
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 3: The premiere of the new Avatar film is tomorrow. Kate Winsley,

1213
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: Cliff Curtis Jermaine Clement. They're all going to hit the

1214
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: red carpet, two cruise ships, Adie and maybe maybe the

1215
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: cricket will still be on. Philippa Mossman is the head

1216
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: of International Attraction and Marketing at the New Zealand Film

1217
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 3: Film Commission and with us morning, Philippa.

1218
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 6: Good morning, good morning.

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00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: Imagine you're going to be there as well.

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 15: I'll be there.

1221
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 6: There'll be a group of us there tomorrow. And I

1222
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 6: must say the Wellington city is looking very beautiful at

1223
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 6: the moment.

1224
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 3: Well have you gone out and had a look and

1225
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: made sure it's all up to stand them in? Cleaned?

1226
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, the red carpets cleaned and the Embassy Theater

1227
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 6: is looking sparkling, and it feels like every postcover in

1228
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 6: those cities flowering all.

1229
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: At once beautiful.

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00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 6: There's real buzz about the place.

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: Does it actually even really matter what Courtney Place looks like?

1232
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 3: Because I can't imagine. I mean, what do you people?

1233
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: Do you go to the premiere and then do you hit?

1234
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: Do you hit the strip afterwards?

1235
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 6: So there will be a function after the premiere, not

1236
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 6: on Courtney Place, But look, I think everybody's just really

1237
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 6: excited to be gathering in that beautiful Embassy theater and

1238
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 6: saying this is the Australasian premiere for Avatar. James Cameron

1239
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 6: himself will be there and it's just going to be

1240
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: a really important and exciting occasion for the country.

1241
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: Do you expect that this latest Avatar film is going

1242
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: to be as successful as the predecessors?

1243
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 12: I couldn't.

1244
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 6: I couldn't possibly imagine it, gom In on that. I

1245
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 6: know that there's legions of fans. I had spoken to

1246
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 6: a few people in Los Angeles who had seen the

1247
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 6: film and you know, say it's absolutely spectacular, which is

1248
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 6: I'm sure is the case. So here's hoping that it

1249
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 6: is absolutely as successful as the last two.

1250
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: So Philippa, when this was announced that the premiere would

1251
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: be in Wellington, it did feel like it was. It

1252
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: was slightly surprising given the negative store as a negative

1253
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: narrative around the capitol. Do you think it's the last

1254
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: of the big premiers or have we got more and

1255
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: enough pipe work in the pipeline to actually have more

1256
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 3: of these? Do you think?

1257
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 6: Look, no, we have definitely have more in the pipeline

1258
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 6: and the premiere is in Wellington actually as part of

1259
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 6: what has been agreed with the companies in terms of

1260
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 6: what they returned to us for the incentives they get

1261
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 6: for the production here, So that's kind of that negotiation.

1262
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 6: I do think there are still big productions that are

1263
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 6: going to be attracted to New Zealand, and some of

1264
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 6: them will will do you know, world premieres like this,

1265
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 6: but not all of them.

1266
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 3: Well yeah, hey, thank you very much and enjoy the evening.

1267
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: I hope you've got a beautiful frog for It's Philippa Mossman,

1268
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: the head of the International Attraction and Marketing at the

1269
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: New Zealand Film Commission. Kate Winslett. That's a probably big star,

1270
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 3: isn't it. Where do you think you take Kate Winslet out?

1271
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: When for dinner you're in Wellington? You've got to go

1272
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: eat out. Everybody goes to that for Shack, now don't

1273
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: they all? Tiger for Shack just off off Courtney Place,

1274
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: So probably just have to go there because because just

1275
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: follow the crowd basically. Anyway, Tim and Carey are going

1276
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 3: to be with us next and wrap the week for

1277
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: US News. TOGSB to the Still.

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Speaker 24: Stratton Dirduce on speak.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show.

1280
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1281
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1282
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Speaker 2: head b.

1283
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Speaker 3: I, Lord of Blynn, What are you doing? This is

1284
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Speaker 3: oh my lord sixty seven. The album is a very

1285
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: heavy Christmas. This is Mariah Carey, this is Variah carry

1286
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: all I want for Christmas? I mean, I honestly, I

1287
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: think that's that's really enough, isn't it? The seven past eight.

1288
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Speaker 2: The Weekend Review with two degrees fighting for fear for

1289
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Speaker 2: Kiwi Business h.

1290
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Speaker 3: Kerry McIvor Tim Wilson with us, Hello you too?

1291
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Speaker 12: How's it going? Oh?

1292
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: Have you you changed your surname again?

1293
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 10: Is it.

1294
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: Carry? Which button you pressing? Press the other button? Not

1295
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: other button?

1296
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 12: Mate?

1297
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 3: Is that button even working?

1298
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 6: Oh?

1299
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 23: No?

1300
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 12: You got what's going on?

1301
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

1302
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: Carry carry?

1303
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 12: Okay? Tell us how to do this?

1304
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Speaker 3: We literally have to have a man come into the studio, okay, Sam,

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Speaker 3: pull out the microphone of the no, no, pull out

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Speaker 3: the microphone of the site, yep, and pop the microphone

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Speaker 3: in that one and then if you turn that one on,

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Speaker 3: then you're going to be able to hear Kerry. Okay,

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01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: how's that? Currey? Here?

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Speaker 12: We go.

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Speaker 15: How's that?

1312
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 12: Here we go?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what was worse, Tim, What was worse?

1314
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: Was it the musical Carry?

1315
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 15: It's hardly my fault.

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01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 12: It's not a Cary's fault. Don't blame Carry.

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01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: No, No, it's to me and you.

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 15: You you started it with the Makiva would have been.

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 15: I know you've got a thing about women taking other people?

1320
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Speaker 3: Do you know what carry? You have changed your surname

1321
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: so many times. I can't remember which one you were

1322
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Speaker 3: born with.

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01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 15: I've changed it to wouldn't and it's only one at

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01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 15: a time. I'm sorry, three added on to my first name.

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Speaker 3: That's true. You've got a very serious face. I feel

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: like I've gone somewhere I shouldn't.

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Speaker 15: Was that a Nicola willis kind of a I'm so sorry?

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Speaker 10: Okay, It's quite.

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01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 15: Effective that face, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: I felt like I felt like one of your grandchildren

1332
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Speaker 3: being admonishious.

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01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 15: Then my grandchildren don't need to be admonished to.

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: Save me, please save me by literally about anything else.

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01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 15: Granddaughter to the Principles of Ward yesterday at school for

1336
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 15: a zest for life that she brings to school, incredible

1337
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 15: kindness and an absolute delight to be around, always so

1338
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 15: much fun. Who does that sound like?

1339
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: Just sinda, No, that's not the answer you're looking for.

1340
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 15: No, it was a rhetorical question.

1341
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that. Once again, I find myself in trouble.

1342
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 12: Do you think you're talking about the New Zealand safety video?

1343
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 10: Heither?

1344
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 12: Can I save you?

1345
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 18: Can I possibly say you? I think you're on to something.

1346
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 18: You're absolutely onto something. It's a waste of three and

1347
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 18: a half minutes. It's really easy. The exits are over there.

1348
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 18: Take the oxygen mask first and then give it to

1349
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 18: your kids. And if the plane goes down, start praying.

1350
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 18: All right, let's take off and.

1351
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 3: Start praying in the kind of like knees on chest position.

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, Yeah, No, I think you're I think you're right. Actually,

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to be mean Kerry to

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Speaker 3: e New Zealand.

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 25: You make a looking at it, and often it is

1356
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 25: business model is However, I don't want to be mean

1357
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 25: on this because I know they're trying, like they're really trying.

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 15: It's like one of those jokes that you'll go to

1359
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 15: hear over Christmas from the uncle who was told once

1360
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 15: it was funny back in nineteen seventy eight and tells

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01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 15: it every year and hey, hey, I do this one

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01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 15: and it's like yeah, yea have yeah, and we've all

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 15: heard it and it's not that longer every year as well, exactly.

1364
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Speaker 18: I mean, when it first came a man as a man,

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 18: I reject the premise of that assertion.

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Speaker 12: That's so unkind. Why is it uncles? Why would it

1367
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 12: not be aunties as well?

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01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 15: We have time, there'll be an Auntie crack somewhere along

1369
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 15: this morning. But it was vaguely amusing as a as

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Speaker 15: a rob five reality piece when it first came out,

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01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 15: and now yeah, not so much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 15: I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Now give me a bit of respective on this tip,

1375
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: because I do consider you like a relatively normal person.

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Speaker 3: You live in Auckland, not and Wellington, You've got kids,

1377
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 3: you're doing a proper, proper day's work. Are you even

1378
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 3: in the slightest interest, because I am. Are you even

1379
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: in the slightest interested in the lady fight that's going

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Speaker 3: to happen in Parliament next week?

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01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 18: Yes I am, because I'm a political tragic as well.

1382
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 18: And you know what's what's politics? It's sport for unhealthy

1383
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 18: people and that's.

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Speaker 12: I'm fascinated by it.

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Speaker 18: I mean, I think I actually want to ask, now, though,

1386
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 18: will you confirm or deny that you will moderate this debate?

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01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 12: Here the duplessy Ellen on the record, I can't.

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: I will deny that I am going to moderate this

1389
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: debate because I think that I heard that Carrie's going

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: to do it.

1391
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 12: Now we're talking.

1392
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 15: I am not remotely interested.

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 12: To me, it looks well, you'll be perfect.

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01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 15: Do you know what it looks like? I know that

1395
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 15: you guys, and I get that kind of theoretical Gosh,

1396
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 15: wouldn't it be amazing watching Ruth Richardson and Blast from

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 15: the Past. It looks like two middle aged men go,

1398
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 15: how many precepts can you do? I can bang out fifty? Oh,

1399
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 15: I can do sixty. All those tragic men in their

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01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 15: cycle gear talking about their their race that morning over

1401
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 15: coffee at the trendy cafe. It's embarrassing. It's just embarrassing.

1402
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 15: I don't want to see it.

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01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: And it's irrelevant even if even is it though yes

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: it is. Why is it irrelevant?

1405
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 15: Because the details that the country that Ruth Richardson was

1406
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 15: dealing with at the time was vastly different to the

1407
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 15: circumstances that Nicholas it is comparing apples and pears. They

1408
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 15: are both interesting finance ministers. They both came out after

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 15: interesting times in New Zealand political and economic history. They

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01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 15: are standalone pieces of history. They should not be debasing

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 15: themselves and the position that they hold and held by

1412
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 15: doing this farcical exercise.

1413
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: So I should cancel your subscription to the Taxpayers Union

1414
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: that I took out.

1415
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 15: I haven't even I've suddenly realized what that box is

1416
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 15: in my locker.

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01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was fudge. Now you're going to

1418
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: get it.

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01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 18: Now, I thought, Kerry, this is why you should you

1420
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 18: should moderate the debate, because you're absolutely right. It is

1421
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 18: its first first past the post environment versus an MMP environment,

1422
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 18: two very very different things.

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01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 3: And actually maybe Kerry should moderate the debate because you

1424
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: have absolutely no tolerance for the nonsense that might happen.

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01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: We'll take a quick break.

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01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 15: The nuns will be staggered that I have no tolerance

1427
01:06:59,320 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 15: for nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1429
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: part by News Talks B sixteen past eight The Weekend

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01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: Review with two degrees fighting for fair for Kiwi business.

1431
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: Here are you getting texts from Nick from Wellington?

1432
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 15: Nick Mills that's Mick Millstone.

1433
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: Nick hosts the show in Wellington. He's wanting to know,

1434
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: you need to leave men out of this.

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01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 15: This is I didn't.

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: It's like men doing presser.

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Speaker 15: Oh, I see, yeah, I did too.

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Speaker 17: You did too.

1439
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: Now what do you reckons? The quote of the year Tim.

1440
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Speaker 18: Oh, for me, it's it's Dame Noline Toruer and the

1441
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 18: quote is I have been able to put my truth

1442
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 18: out there.

1443
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 12: I am in my conscious space. Close quote.

1444
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 18: It sounded like she was sitting in front of a

1445
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 18: Stalinist show trial in the nineteen thirties, offering the statement

1446
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 18: of the accused, and it should have showed the apex

1447
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 18: of intellectual and psychological reliction relativism. There's no truth, there's

1448
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 18: only objective truth.

1449
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Speaker 12: This is how I feel.

1450
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 19: Oh, dear Carrie, Well, it's quite true.

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 15: I mean, I think that's that's brilliant. It reminds me

1452
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 15: of that cost to speak when he came on when

1453
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 15: he was first police commissioner. Halfway through in an ad break,

1454
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 15: I said, what are you talking about?

1455
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: I have no idea what you're saying in person to him? Yeah,

1456
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 3: you turned the mic Off and then you said to him,

1457
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're saying.

1458
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 15: Yeah, because he said something about increasing personnel client interaction

1459
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 15: at A at A at a fundamental level or something,

1460
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 15: and I said, timman cops on the beat after a

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01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 15: couple of goes, and he meant, oh, yes, I suppose,

1462
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 15: I mean, I can't say it. He said, oh, they said,

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Speaker 15: I've been very well trained and no bless oh, bless blessed.

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Speaker 18: You know, Dodgy is no, oh no, we're gonna We're

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 18: getta But thereskind of I reckon, there's going to be

1466
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 18: more of this with the AI slot, with the Barreau speak.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no, it's we have to we have to fight.

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01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 12: It's simple pros.

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: AI is only going to sound like that if we

1470
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: only feeded Andrew Costa's speeches.

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Speaker 12: Yes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: If we give it some normal people language, it'll come

1473
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 3: out sounding like a normal person, won't it. How do

1474
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 3: you feel about the AI, by the way.

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 12: Look, I actually you have to Actually it's the way.

1476
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 12: It's what you tell you to tell it what to do.

1477
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 18: And I often one of the best, or as I

1478
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 18: reflect on, I think you sound a lot like chat

1479
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 18: GPT don't sound like chat GPT. No, stop sounding like

1480
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 18: chat GPT, because I think the reason that we're sort

1481
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 18: of policing, so to speak, the speech is because bad

1482
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 18: language equals bad thought. So if you can get the

1483
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 18: language simple, the thought becomes a lot more clean as well.

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Speaker 3: I try to use it this week, Carrie, and because

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 3: I'd read that that what people are using it for

1486
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 3: as to as like a shop shopping assistant. And if

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: you tell us to find you a thing and make

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01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 3: sure that it is in this correct size and this

1489
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: correct color and this price point, and then it will

1490
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: be delivered to your house by that date, it will

1491
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: do all the hard.

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01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 10: Work for you.

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 3: First product is sent to me. I wanted it before Christmas,

1494
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: was going to arrive on New Year's Day, not I

1495
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: want not. And then the second product I wanted in large.

1496
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: Second product they gave me at every size except for large.

1497
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: So I'm starting to buy me something right by large

1498
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: for the debate is not going to be did you

1499
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: hear it? And then on top of that, it ruined

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 3: the surprise, so now he knows what.

1501
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 15: I have spoken to people involved in AI who are

1502
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,440
Speaker 15: working with AI, and I am invigorated by their excitement

1503
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 15: and enthusiasm and the endless good potential because we're hearing

1504
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 15: a lot of negative narrative around totally and and it

1505
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 15: would have been the same back the Bloodites talking about

1506
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 15: the weaving machines coming in, and you know, there is

1507
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 15: always going to be good and bad. But I haven't

1508
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 15: heard a lot about the good side until I started

1509
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 15: speaking to these people who are at the cutting edge,

1510
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 15: who believe it's going to a huge difference in terms

1511
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 15: of medical research, in terms of helping kids with learning difficulties,

1512
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 15: in terms of being able to you know, when you

1513
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 15: think about the people who are incredibly intelligent, have a

1514
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 15: lot to offer, move to another country and end up

1515
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 15: doing entry level jobs and hope that their kids, you know,

1516
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 15: read the rewards of this new country. It's going to

1517
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,839
Speaker 15: level the playing field so that their intelligence, their their knowledge,

1518
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 15: their wisdom will come out in the first generation.

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 10: Not the same.

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Speaker 3: Not use it very much, Carrey sometimes. Yeah, have you

1521
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: ever used it for for doing the cooking?

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 8: No?

1523
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 13: Not, you go.

1524
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 15: But also I've tried. I've tried to get it to

1525
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 15: write a couple of columns for me to see if

1526
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 15: how he has and God knows, I've written enough over

1527
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 15: the years that it should.

1528
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 3: And do you say, write a column in the style

1529
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: of Carrie Yeah Woodhem Yes, but there are columns under

1530
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: McIvor as well. You have to carry Woodham slash carry Makaiva, the.

1531
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 15: Artist formerly known as.

1532
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 12: Yeah it was en.

1533
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 15: It's still not good. I mean, eventually there'll be a time.

1534
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 15: But I think the unique indefinable thing that makes us

1535
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 15: human is what is going to say this from aar

1536
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 15: I mean, will use it as a servant.

1537
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: It's never going to replace us, and it's going to replace.

1538
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 15: A good teacher or somebody with an inquiring mind who

1539
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 15: puts the dots together and goes, no, But why do

1540
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 15: we try this?

1541
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1542
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 15: You know, I'm really quite excited about it.

1543
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm excited about it too. I'm glad you're excited about

1544
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: you excited about it too.

1545
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 18: I'm excited, but I'm also concerned because now the excitement

1546
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,480
Speaker 18: is like, So, for example, and Maxim.

1547
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 12: We did a paper on AI and education.

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01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 18: The possibility is that we could have a teacher pupil

1549
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 18: ratio of one to one using AI. And that's amazing

1550
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 18: because everyone knows that every kid is different, every kid

1551
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 18: has different strengths differently and that's incredible. I guess the

1552
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,879
Speaker 18: question though, is just what as AI becomes more powerful,

1553
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 18: just what informs its moral code and whether it's telling

1554
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 18: us the truth or whether it forms a kind of

1555
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 18: sentience that does concern me.

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah too, Right now, listen, guys, thank you so much

1557
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 3: for coming in.

1558
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: Is that it?

1559
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 3: That's fast? Thank god?

1560
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: That was the show.

1561
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, we just stick around when you're left dissatisfied after

1562
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 15: just such a short time.

1563
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 3: Tim Wilson hearing the kids, thank you both for being here. Appreciated.

1564
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: Eight twenty two, Heather do Mussy Allen fon the My

1565
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: Casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs be.

1566
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 3: Murray Olds, by the way, is going to be with

1567
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 3: us shortly. I'm gonna basically this business. I've been keeping

1568
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 3: you a breast of what's been going on with old

1569
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: mate who ran up the expenses, you know, the sports

1570
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 3: minister over there, Anika Anika Wells, and this is now

1571
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: fast becoming it would appear elbows. I didn't hold the

1572
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: I don hold the hose mate moment. You remember that

1573
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: was when Somo said he wasn't basically the one out

1574
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 3: there fighting the fires, and so he wasn't the one

1575
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: who wasn't was responsible and that just got him in

1576
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: a huge, huge amount of trouble. And it feels like

1577
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: elbows headed down that path at the moment. Hither if

1578
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 3: I was in Wellington, I take Kate Winslet to the

1579
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 3: steamboat for karaoke. I think she needs a bit more upmarket,

1580
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: but maybe towards the end of the night you could

1581
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: preload her a little bit on the booze and then

1582
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 3: take her there.

1583
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 19: I'll take her up to the library barth for one

1584
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 19: of those cocktails with the ginger nut in it.

1585
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the library Bar is a good time. I've

1586
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: forgotten about that. Actually, yeah, I mean you see, we

1587
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: could sort of progressively work hernd like a pub crawl

1588
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 3: and including the library bar, and then you end up

1589
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: over there. Cook Islands congratulated to the Cooks just made

1590
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: the BBC's top list of top places to visit in

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. They say, why go Cook Island does

1592
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 3: like to be visited. They are the extroverts of the

1593
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 3: South Pacific after all, Yet tourism numbers are actually quite

1594
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: low compared to the likes of Fiji. There is a

1595
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 3: new wave of barefoot luxury stays that is transforming the

1596
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: islands and next year apparently is going to be big.

1597
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: So if you haven't booked your holiday for next winter,

1598
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: well maybe you could try that. All the bricks are

1599
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 3: going to be there. Murray Old's with us next.

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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

1601
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 2: Head a Duplessy Allen on the mic Hosking Breakfast with

1602
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: the Defender embraced the impossible news togs they'd be.

1603
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 3: If you thought that that jewel heist from the Louver

1604
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: couldn't get any more interesting, it probably could. Actually, it

1605
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 3: turns out that there is a strong possibility that the

1606
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: people who nicked the jewels actually used the Louver's own

1607
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: security riscored it to find a way to nick the jewels.

1608
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 3: So seven years ago the love had the order done.

1609
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: And what the ordered kind of? I mean, what they

1610
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 3: basically said is, look, if somebody was going to nick

1611
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: these particular jewels, how they would do it is they

1612
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: would bring it moving truck with a ladder, and then

1613
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 3: they'd park it on the street and then that access

1614
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 3: the gallery on the second floor using the ladder. They

1615
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 3: get and they get out and they get away with it.

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: So what do these guys do? They got to move

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 3: than truck, packed it on the street outside, got the

1618
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 3: ladder and got into the second floor with the ladder,

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01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: got up and off they went.

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Speaker 19: I mean it hell that they knew that the password

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01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 19: for the security system.

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Speaker 3: Was mmm louve and they knew that as well. So

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01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it's increasingly look And this audit was sitting

1624
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 3: in the museum's archives, by the sounds of things for

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 3: the last seven years, so it increasingly looked. I mean,

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01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 3: you don't have to be an idiot not to figure out.

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Speaker 19: And now we find out that they can't keep their

1628
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 19: precious books dry. Who's running this outfit?

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 3: Who is running this outfit? And if we ask that question,

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01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: we might in fact find out who probably not necessarily

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: the same person, But you can figure it out. Just

1632
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: join the dots and before you find out, you'll find

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01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 3: these guys twenty two away.

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Speaker 22: From Name International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

1635
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 22: of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: Murray Old's Australia Correspondents with.

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Speaker 7: US Morning Muss, Good morning, Heather.

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 3: Oh these travel entitlements. Hey, this is so bad.

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01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 7: But I'm old enough to remember. Back in nineteen eighty two,

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 7: Malcolm Fraser, the then Prime Minister sacked two of his ministers.

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 7: One minister came back from overseas and brought in a

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01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 7: color television oh, a color TV oh. A staffer filled

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01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 7: in the relevant form and said it was actually black

1644
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 7: and white. Now the ministerial colleague who was responsible for

1645
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 7: this stuff then intervene tried to hush it up. That

1646
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 7: was said as interfering political crisis. For Fraser, he insisted,

1647
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 7: both minister's quit. You're fast forward from nineteen eighty two

1648
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 7: and you've got everybody with this now it's in the

1649
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 7: drop over here. But he's the thing. It's within the rules.

1650
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 7: And when you beat you know, in the fair Dington

1651
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 7: a fair Dinkham department, when you look at someone like

1652
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 7: Annaka Wells, she's a young brother, she's a minister, but

1653
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 7: she's away from a prison home a heck of a lot.

1654
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 7: And that's what these rules were drawn up for, to

1655
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 7: give ministers the chance to actually have some time with

1656
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 7: the family. Be it down at Threadbow, at the skiing

1657
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 7: when she was down there as sports minister for a

1658
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 7: Paralympic event. She took her husband while a sports minister,

1659
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 7: to some AFL Grand finals. I mean, it's all above board,

1660
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 7: but it does it pass the pub test, as we

1661
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 7: ask over here, and a lot of people say, you

1662
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 7: are kidding. This woman's going to sit out in the

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 7: trup so deep you can't see the back of her head.

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01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 7: But she's not the only one, Heather, And that's the point.

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 7: So apparently, Susan Lee, the opposition leader, is said to

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 7: Anthony Albertasy, Listen, let's get together. We will work out

1667
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: a way to overhaul this Anika Wells, by the way,

1668
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 7: you send her expenses off for independent scrutiny. But there's

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01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 7: no way known. I don't think that Alberti is going

1670
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 7: to sack this woman because he's not going to give

1671
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 7: the political skelp to the opposition.

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01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is becoming This is becoming a

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 3: problem for him though, because the problem isn't that she

1674
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 3: was within the rules, it's how profligate she was with it.

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody thinks it's reasonable to keep a taxi

1676
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: waiting for ten hours.

1677
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 7: Oh no, it's ridiculous.

1678
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just right.

1679
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 7: I mean, to just get a buddy whover. It's just

1680
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 7: down the street, for goodness sake. Why do you need

1681
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 7: the long white liver?

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 3: Exactly now? Barnaby Joyce say so, is this a marriage

1683
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 3: made in heaven or what?

1684
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 7: Mate? Sadly, I think Barnaby and Pauline Hanson it's a

1685
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 7: bit like the praying mantises. When the finished mating, she

1686
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 7: turns around and bites his head off. We've all seen

1687
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 7: that video. And I've seen this video before with Pauline Hansen.

1688
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 7: There was Mark Layton at one time labor leader. He

1689
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 7: jumped in and then you know the too big help

1690
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 7: for personalities in the same power. Oh gee, that's not

1691
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 7: going to work unless Pauline Hansen is looking for an

1692
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 7: exit and she is looking to someone like Barnaby Joyce

1693
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 7: to take over the leadership. And let's be frank, he'd

1694
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 7: make it a very good leader. I think a lot

1695
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 7: of people like Barnaby Joyce, notwithstanding the facts the public

1696
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 7: drug and pulls over the place and it's all about him.

1697
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 7: I mean, you've got these two are just headlines looking

1698
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 7: for somewhere to go and sit. It's as simple as that.

1699
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 7: And if she's looking to groom a successor, we're well done.

1700
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 7: She's picked Barnaby Joyce, very popular in his own electorate.

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01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 7: He's now going to sit until the next election as

1702
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 7: a one nation MP in the House of Reps. And

1703
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 7: then next election he's going to have a crack at

1704
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 7: the Senate, the upper house under the one nation ban.

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 7: A they last that long? Will this marriage, this political

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 7: marriage lasts that long? I'm not sure, but it's fascinating

1707
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 7: viewing totally.

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 3: How do you reckon the social media ban is going?

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01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 7: Look, it depends you talk to Heather. If you listen

1710
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 7: to young people, ah, we're getting around it. I'm the

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 7: big brother's got me arm. If you listen to parents,

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 7: I mean hello, parents are saying you beauty, pardon me,

1713
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 7: excuse me. A poll published this week after the band

1714
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 7: came into effect, almost sixty percent support the band, but

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01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 7: only forty three percent of those aged eighteen to thirty four,

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 7: So at twenty two percent of post it's not as

1717
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 7: though it's a political problem for Albin easy because the

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01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 7: kids who are sixteen and under aren't voting yet, and

1719
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,919
Speaker 7: you know short attention spans and the like. Most adults

1720
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 7: are saying, very, very good move because you know the

1721
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 7: stats about kids being groomed, about self harming, about being

1722
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 7: bullied online. It's just dreadful, dreadful. But how do you

1723
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 7: fix it well and easy. He's taken the big sledgehammer,

1724
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 7: and apparently governments around the world head that are saying, you, beauty,

1725
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 7: We're going to watch you a bit like a bit

1726
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 7: like the guinea peag I guess is it going to work? Well, Albertez,

1727
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 7: he certainly wants it to work. He sees this as

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 7: elect as a boat winner in terms of the parents

1729
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 7: of these kids, and you know, un let's just wait

1730
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 7: and see. But at the moment, every parent I think

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01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 7: is probably backing it. A lot of the kids are saying.

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Speaker 3: Too right. But I mean I've read some of the

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: stuff about how easy it is for people just to

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Speaker 3: fake their ages and get on these social media sites, like,

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Speaker 3: surely these guys are gonna have to pick up their socks.

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Speaker 3: Some of them are just taking the mickey.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's true. And don't forget it's up to the

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01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 7: tech companies, the big you know, the big metas and whatnot.

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01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 7: They are facing massive fines if they're found to be

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Speaker 7: allowing under sixteens out of their platforms. So look, I

1741
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 7: know it's small change for them. I mean, what's the

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Speaker 7: matter worth? I mean trillions of dollars. I mean, it

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 7: doesn't really matter, But it's the image of getting punished.

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01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 7: They're allowing a couple of not in those sixteen year

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Speaker 7: olds on to look at porn, you know, or to

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Speaker 7: look at whatever they want to look at. A lot

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Speaker 7: of the complaints appear to be about friendship. You know,

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Speaker 7: I'm going to be cut off from a friends, my

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Speaker 7: friendship group and this is how these kids communicate.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I suppose so they can always go and make

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Speaker 3: friends in real life, which might be better. Muzz, thanks

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: very much, appreciate it, Murray Olds Ossie, correspondent. If you

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01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 3: think about it from the tech guys perspective, which frankly

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01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 3: I haven't spent much time doing because not my favorite

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01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: people in the world. But they are between in a

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Speaker 3: bit of a difficult situation because I mean, they can

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01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 3: choose to comply or not with Australia, right. So if

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01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 3: they choose to comply and make this work and the

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01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 3: thing is great, then countries like ourselves are going to

1760
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 3: start doing it in plenty of other countries. So if

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: you make it work, then everybody starts doing it. But

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01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 3: if you make it, if you deliberately kind of screw

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 3: it so it doesn't work, which I would say some

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01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: of them are actually borderline doing here. Then it just

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01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: makes you look like like if we didn't like you before,

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna high like you even less. We're gonna find

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01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 3: another way to pin you. So I don't really know

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 3: what the best course of action for them is. I

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: would say probably, I don't know. Best course of action

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01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 3: for the children is obviously go ahead with it and

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Speaker 3: make it work. Got another prediction for next year. This

1772
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: has just come through from ASB this next week. Sorry,

1773
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 3: this has just come through from ASB. This is on

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01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 3: what we're going to get in the GDP numbers for

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01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 3: Q three. ASB is now calling an increase as well,

1776
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: saying zero point eight percent increase over the September quarter

1777
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: they were pecking. I mean that's double what the Reserve

1778
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 3: Bank was pecking. It's also just shy of what A

1779
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 3: and Z was packing at one percent. So I think

1780
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: we're looking at a better number next week than we

1781
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: previously thought Quarter two.

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Speaker 2: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 2: by News talks at.

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Speaker 3: B Hither the Jewels was obviously an inside job? Did

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01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: I not leave the bread crumbs for you? Thank you

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01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: for following those bread crumbs. That's exactly what I was

1787
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 3: suggesting before and what everybody seems to be coming to realize.

1788
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: Twelve away from nine, I've got the best story of

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01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,799
Speaker 3: redemption for you, probably, if not this week, maybe possibly

1790
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Speaker 3: this year. Over in the UK, they've just done the

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: government over there, and the Royals have just done a

1792
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 3: round of investiges with people knighted and all that kind

1793
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 3: of carry on. One of the guys who was given

1794
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: a knighting knighthood rather was Sir Hans Rousing, who's now

1795
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 3: sixty two years old and is the heir of TetraPak

1796
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: and worth about nine billion pounds, which makes you immediately think, well,

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Speaker 3: of course he got a knighthood, but no, hang on

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Speaker 3: a teck. The fact that he got a knighthood is

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01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 3: amazing because only thirteen years ago, in July twenty twelve,

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01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 3: he was arrested for driving erratically and the cops went

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01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: and looked in his car and found drugs and a

1802
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 3: crack pipe, And so they went round to his house

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01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 3: in central London and they found his wife dead in

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01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 3: the bedroom, lying on the bed, surrounded by and the

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01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: bedroom's locked, lying on the bed surrounded by syringes and

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 3: other drug paraphernalia. Turns out she'd had a heart attack

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01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: two months earlier, and because the couple of met and

1808
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 3: rehab and they'd had a really bad battle against addiction,

1809
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: which obviously she'd lost. Anyway, the pair of them have

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01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 3: been taking so much heroin and crack cap for years

1811
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: that they lived basically as recluses, and their children had

1812
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: been given to his sister to take care of it.

1813
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 3: It was a complete mess.

1814
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Speaker 15: So she dies.

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01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: He leaves her for two months. Cops find her. They

1816
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 3: take him to court. He's charged with preventing a lawful burial.

1817
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 3: He explains to the judge, pleads guilty. Explains to the

1818
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 3: judge he hadn't been able to let her leave. He

1819
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: didn't feel able to confront the reality of her death.

1820
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: He'd tried to carry on as if it hadn't happened.

1821
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: He took some measures to reduce the smell. He thinks

1822
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 3: that since she died, he'd had a form of mental breakdown.

1823
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: He was given a ten month prison sentence, suspended for

1824
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 3: two years. Was admitted to a psychiatric hospital. Two years later,

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01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 3: he marries again. She straight up and down. She helps

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Speaker 3: him recover. She encourages him to do more with his

1827
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: vast wealth, starts giving away huge amounts of money to charity.

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 3: Sad news she dies last year that instead of having

1829
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: a mental breakdown this time he starts giving away even

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01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 3: more money and as a result, he's been knighted. He's

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01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: been now held up as an example to other wealthy

1832
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 3: people of how to use their wealth to good use.

1833
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 3: But he's just an example to the rest of us.

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01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 3: Don't you think think of even when you were at

1835
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 3: your lower step, Like none of us can imagine being

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 3: at an EBB that low where there's a dead body

1837
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: in your house. Even when you're at your lower step,

1838
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: it is still possible to come back, and I don't know,

1839
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: be knighted.

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Speaker 1: How good is that?

1841
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Nine away from nine?

1842
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: Heather d put the l and on the mic Hosking

1843
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Speaker 2: Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities and News togstad b.

1844
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Speaker 3: Hither are you telling us that cost is going to

1845
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: get a knighthood? Well, I suppose Costa could take some hope,

1846
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: and he's probably his lowest step at the moment. He

1847
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: could probably he can have a comeback. Hey, I know

1848
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 3: Mike likes to celebrate kiwis who are doing well and

1849
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 3: in the spirit of that, I want to continue, you know,

1850
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: with the optimism of Kiwi's doing well. So the boss

1851
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 3: of Christchurch Just Calendar Girls has sold up his mansion

1852
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 3: on Russeley Road. He's got cool six million for that.

1853
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 3: He's committed to what he's about to do, which is

1854
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: he is going to Paris and he is going to

1855
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 3: open the Calendar Girls in Paris, but not just Paris

1856
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: around Europe. He reckons done every major city in New

1857
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 3: Zealand in the last thirty years. It's time to go global.

1858
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: So you know, ki We's doing well. Yay six away

1859
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 3: from nine.

1860
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Trending now Squarehouse, the real House of Fragrances.

1861
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: This was hugely anticipated, is quite literally hot off the

1862
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Hollywood press floor. We have the first teaser trailer for

1863
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,919
Speaker 3: the new Supergirl movie. We actually haven't had a Supergirl

1864
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 3: movie since nineteen eighty four, a forty one years, but

1865
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: Supergirl was reintroduced on in James Gunn's New Superman film

1866
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 3: this year. Supergirl is Superman's older cousin, known as carraz Arel.

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Speaker 17: Hi Carzarel. Youre right is clear? You're right is clear.

1868
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 17: The twenty three will be the best year here. Let's

1869
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 17: be honest. Babe, it's not a very high bardic. Clear, Okay,

1870
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 17: this does not look like this is going to end well.

1871
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 12: For you guys.

1872
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 17: Like fIF mama. He sees the good and everyone and

1873
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 17: I see the truth.

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01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 3: It stars Millie al Koch as Supergirl and Jason Wilmore

1875
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: plays the bounty hunter Lobo. So there's something there for everyone.

1876
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 3: If you just want some eye candy, I think you'd

1877
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 3: be fine. It's Jason's in it. It's out June twenty sixth,

1878
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: so something to look forward to next year. Now, I mean,

1879
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: you know, we like to complain as women, don't we

1880
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 3: about women's riots and all that kind of stuff, But

1881
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 3: this legit is something that's out the gate when it

1882
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 3: comes to women.

1883
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 7: Women.

1884
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 3: Women are calling out the Japanese Chess Association because it's

1885
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 3: got some rules around pregnancy that I think probably don't

1886
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 3: belong in twenty twenty five. So they play Showgi, which

1887
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: is very similar to chess and under the and so

1888
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: you would say, if you're sitting there, it's not strenuous.

1889
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 3: You know, you're sitting you're pregnant, You're sitting down just

1890
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 3: playing a bit of board games using your brain, not

1891
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: your body. You know nothing, I would say low risk

1892
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 3: as a pregnancy activity. But showgi's rules are that pregnant

1893
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 3: players are not allowed to play pregnant women when they

1894
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 3: are six weeks before their birth date and eight weeks

1895
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 3: thereafter for unknown reasons. And during the time that they're

1896
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 3: not allowed to play, they're replaced, so they fullfit all

1897
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 3: the competitions, they fullfoit all the potential titles, and it

1898
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 3: is so obviously dumb that they've said to the guys,

1899
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: you have to change this. The association has apologized it

1900
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 3: will revise its rules, and I think we can all

1901
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 3: agree that's probably a good idea. Now Christmas party for us,

1902
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 3: so it's going to be wild for us at enz

1903
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 3: ME this afternoon. Fought some prayers to us one to

1904
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 3: four in the afternoon. Not the warning. So if you

1905
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: see us out and about, you know, tell us to

1906
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 3: calm down. We'll see you next week. Look after Yourself.

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1908
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