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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 1: global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 2: On the Huddle this evening, the CEO of the Maximum Institute,

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson and Alie Jones from red pr K Elder

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Speaker 2: corduer Hi Jack. So, let's start off with the HMNZS Manawanui.

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Speaker 2: Locals there saying today that they can smell oil, that

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Speaker 2: they've filmed a sea turtle struggling in the area around

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Speaker 2: the Manawanui, although the Navy says for the time being,

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Speaker 2: most of the almost one thousand tons of diesel on

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Speaker 2: board the ship is still on board the ship. Tim,

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Speaker 2: how much money should we be sinking? Is that term?

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Speaker 2: Knowing the full context? How much money we should we

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Speaker 2: be sinking into the recovery in salvage?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, we need to determine how bad it is.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's been a sort of cascade of

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Speaker 3: information about you. We saw that those images, but we

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Speaker 3: don't really know exactly what's going on. The Navy says

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Speaker 3: it's not leaking oil. There's still substantial amount of diesel

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Speaker 3: in there. But of course, look when the kids spill

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Speaker 3: something in our house, they have to clean it up.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good basis to move forward on.

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Speaker 3: The problem is it's our ship, but it's since some

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Speaker 3: More's territory, so there'll be limited I want there'll be

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Speaker 3: limited resources there. I understand the Navy's going to send

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Speaker 3: the Canterbury out tomorrow. Well that's you know, it's going

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Speaker 3: to take some time to get up there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to take a few days. And for

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Speaker 2: the time being though, there's nothing to suggest that the

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Speaker 2: tanks that are holding the fuel have been breached or

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Speaker 2: anything like that. The divers who went down today see

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Speaker 2: that it all seems to be holding. But surely some

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Speaker 2: More is going to want New Zealand to pour every

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Speaker 2: resource available into this alley.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and I think that's what we've heard so far.

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Speaker 4: I think every time Christopher Luxon has talked on this

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Speaker 4: in the last sort of twenty four hours, he's made

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Speaker 4: it very clear that some More will be leading this

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Speaker 4: and that New Zealand will be providing whatever resources are required.

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Speaker 4: Just going back to what Tim said, you know about

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Speaker 4: if the kids spill something at home they have to

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Speaker 4: clean it up. Well, if the kids spill something at

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Speaker 4: home and then throw it over the fence into the neighbors.

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Speaker 4: Then they have to make good with the neighbors. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of what's happened here as well.

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Speaker 3: You know this, this is Ellie Elliott. It depends how

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Speaker 3: it depends how well you get on with the neighbors.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you want to continue getting on well with

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Speaker 4: the neighbors from I suggest that you know this is

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Speaker 4: this is a tourist area, it's an environmentally sensitive area,

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Speaker 4: and it's someone's backyard for food. So we have to

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Speaker 4: put into it whatever we need to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Tim, the two E bill board? Is it good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Or yeah?

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Speaker 3: No? Well like you like you, like you're saying, Jack,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about it, so job done. Look, I've got

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Speaker 3: to say that I'm absolutely thermonuclear and furious, and that's

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Speaker 3: because there's no hyphens in there. So as I understand

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Speaker 3: ap style, meth smoking, there's one hyphen. Sex worker loving

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Speaker 3: that's two hyphens. There's no hyphen there. Also, the guy

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Speaker 3: is not adoptor he's retired. So it's grammatically and factually untrue.

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Speaker 3: Let's do something that's grammatical and factual. How about Jack

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Speaker 3: tame hates offending people? You're right, hang on, you.

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Speaker 2: Have an answer though. If we put the grammar to

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Speaker 2: one side, is it is it? Is it on the

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Speaker 2: right side of the tasteline viewed Tim.

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Speaker 3: Ah, It's just it's here's the thing about humor. It's mean,

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Speaker 3: it sounds like it's. Well, what I'm saying is it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't need to be as cheery as that one is.

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Speaker 3: You isn't isn't the soul of brevity? I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think I think for obviously for the family of Philip

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Speaker 3: Polkinghorn's wife, then then that's going to be sad and

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Speaker 3: and I sympathize with them because that's a that's a

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Speaker 3: public sadness.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Elie Well, I laughed.

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Speaker 4: But as Tim said, clearly, this isn't funny to everyone.

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Speaker 4: But and I've heard, you know, have Pauline Hannah's family

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Speaker 4: mentioned I think this actually works for them. It's basically

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Speaker 4: saying that this guy is a dick, and you know,

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Speaker 4: and I think that that's what I get from that.

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Speaker 4: But just because people not even we'll find this funny

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Speaker 4: doesn't make it wrong all bad. I just think we're

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Speaker 4: too easily offended these days. This has worked well for

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Speaker 4: two As you said, Tim, we're talking about it. But

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Speaker 4: we just don't take risks anymore for fear of offending.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder what the next stage is. Perhaps Tim,

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Speaker 4: someone will be canceled, might be you know, well.

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Speaker 3: Can we cancel people for abusing misuse of hyphens? I'm

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Speaker 3: into it.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, don't get me start on fewer and less than Tim,

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Speaker 2: otherwise we'll be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just before you go to the break. One thing

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Speaker 4: I've been hearing is there.

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Speaker 2: Is no that I know I know right, And this

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Speaker 2: is like here, if we're cracking down on grammar, then

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Speaker 2: you know people in glass houses, right, So there is

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Speaker 2: no dat we've got to say. At ins ds mona

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Speaker 2: Annui hit a reef and went under, as opposed to

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Speaker 2: the at inss mona anu he hit a reef and

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Speaker 2: went under. These things are hard to get right. I've

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Speaker 2: only just got used to getting my daylight saving. This

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Speaker 2: is my daylight savings. How he So he's up, Allie Jones,

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson our huddlers this evening. We're back in a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes fourteen to six the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the marketing

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Speaker 1: of your home and.

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Speaker 2: On the Huddle this evening Allie Jones from red PR.

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, the CEO of the Maximum Institute, Ali an

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Speaker 2: extraordinary interview earlier in the show with the head of

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Speaker 2: the dog shelters for Auckland City Council. So Auckland Dog

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Speaker 2: shelters have been forced to euthanize about eleven dogs a

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Speaker 2: day over the last financial years, more dogs than at

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Speaker 2: any other point in the past decade. And I think

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Speaker 2: the term that she used was that dogs have been

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Speaker 2: handed round or puppies are handed round like Lolly's in

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Speaker 2: some parts of Auckland. At the moment, I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is terrible. Do you think it justifies greater regulations and

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Speaker 2: restrictions on who can breed dogs?

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Speaker 4: I don't know where you start, you know, is it

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Speaker 4: the breeding and does that just make it then go underground?

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Speaker 4: And I didn't hear the interview, but what was interesting

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Speaker 4: about this issue is that I did go back and

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Speaker 4: have a look at what the situation has been in

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Speaker 4: christ Church and in twenty twenty three June, covering the

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Speaker 4: eleven months prior to that, there were two two hundred

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Speaker 4: and forty six lost dogs reported to the City Council

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Speaker 4: here in christ Church. Only five hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 4: had to go to the dog shelter, and of those

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Speaker 4: five hundred and sixty five all were either adopted or

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Speaker 4: they ended up back home. None were euthanized or euthanized.

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Speaker 4: So and I think one of the things that works

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Speaker 4: there for us is that our team, which is awesome

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Speaker 4: at the City Council, is that they work with other

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Speaker 4: organizations like Dog Watch and bull Breed and they try

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Speaker 4: really hard to adopt these dogs out using social media

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Speaker 4: and so forth. But I don't know how you stop this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is clearly did they say in the

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Speaker 4: interview it's a result of.

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Speaker 2: Cost of living, combination of factors. But well, just I

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Speaker 2: mean there's the COVID as well, which meant that dogs

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Speaker 2: weren't being desex nearly as regularly as they had been

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Speaker 2: in the past. That's the big one, right, and then

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Speaker 2: basically people are taking on dogs. And I mean the

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Speaker 2: example that the animal shelter management manager used with us

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Speaker 2: was she said that dogs are sometimes people have them

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Speaker 2: for a year or two, they get sick of them,

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Speaker 2: they let them go, they abandoned them, and they immediately

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Speaker 2: go and get a new puppy. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 2: it says a lot about responsibility, Tim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, Jack, and owners need to be made

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Speaker 3: more accountable, I think, because dogs behaving badly is a

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Speaker 3: sign of humans behaving badly. And but what's particularly sad

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Speaker 3: is I think a court of those those dogs who

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Speaker 3: were euthanized was because there was no room in the pound. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is just that is just really that's that's that's

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Speaker 3: really sad. And look, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a

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Speaker 3: bit of a pivot here, But you think about what

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Speaker 3: about those humans who have to quote unquote choose euthanasia

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Speaker 3: because the no limited access to pelliative care and issues

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Speaker 3: like that. We feel sorry for the dogs, but I

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Speaker 3: think as we think about reviewing the euthanasia legislation through

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Speaker 3: the lens of pelleative care, we look to that too.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is definitely a pivot, Tim.

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Speaker 4: Can you remember that? Do you remember that promotion years

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Speaker 4: ago where we were told that dogs were not just

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Speaker 4: for Christmas? Do you remember that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I thought it.

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Speaker 4: Was really effective. It was telling people you have a dog,

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Speaker 4: you have it for the life of the dog. It's

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Speaker 4: not something you just keep for Christmas. Yeah, and maybe

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Speaker 4: there needs to be a bit more public information around them.

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Speaker 2: I think it's got to be the d sxing and

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Speaker 2: I reckon for people who are selling dogs effectively breeding them,

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Speaker 2: as well. Thank you so much for your time and thoughts, guys,

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Speaker 2: really thoughtful as always our huddle this evening, Allie Jones

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Speaker 2: and Tim Wilson, thank you for your fedback as well.

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