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Speaker 1: Depressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: d for Cellen Drive with one New Zealand to coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else new sorgs that be good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show coming up today Fullsith bar on

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Speaker 2: just how much of the retail market Ikea will take,

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Speaker 2: the PPTA on the secondary teachers reaching a deal with

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Speaker 2: the government, and former cricketer Richard Petrie on his concerns

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Speaker 2: about the proposed T twenty league for ever do for

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Speaker 2: c ellen Well. So, after years of waiting, finally Ikea

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Speaker 2: has opened and in the end it was actually a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a phisic this morning. None of the

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Speaker 2: traffic snarlups that were predicted on the signs above the

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Speaker 2: Auckland motorways actually eventuated. The thousands of people who were

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Speaker 2: It was a few hundred people queuing this morning. It

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Speaker 2: did not take an hour to find a car park.

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Speaker 2: In forty minutes to get out of the car park,

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Speaker 2: the car park was actually a little bit empty. Probably

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Speaker 2: what happened actually is not that people weren't enthusiastic. I

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Speaker 2: think people are enthusiastic. But what I think happened is

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Speaker 2: that we do what we do best. We just got

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Speaker 2: maybe later this week, maybe later this month, not predicted

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Speaker 2: to be pandemonium like today. If there is something to

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Speaker 2: a wee bit loopy over Ikea with all of the predictions.

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Speaker 2: And I saw three separate live blogs running on news

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Speaker 2: But having said that, Ikea is actually a fantastic economic

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Speaker 2: news story for New Zealand. Ten years ago, we did

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Speaker 2: not have all the retailers that we do now. We

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Speaker 2: did not have Zara, we did not have H and M,

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Speaker 2: David Jones, Costco, Ikia. The fact that these globally popular

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Speaker 2: a good thing. I don't love that Ikia sends our

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Speaker 2: and I love that there are jobs that are being

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Speaker 2: because let's be honest, for a very very long time,

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Speaker 2: it has improved lately, but for a very long time,

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Speaker 2: our home we're offerings in that middle price range have

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Speaker 2: ridiculously cringey about the IKA opening today, the opening is

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it's the first of many stores, many more jobs,

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Speaker 1: Ever dup c Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen nineteen is to text. Understandard text fees apply. Now.

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Speaker 2: Government's doing a little bit of a shakeup of the

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Speaker 2: rules for retirement villages. The changes include that village operators

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Speaker 2: will have to repay residents within a year of their

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Speaker 2: in retirement villages, and Council spokesperson Carol Shepherd is with

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Speaker 2: us hig Carol, Hello, Heather, how are you going. I'm

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Speaker 2: very well, thank you, I should say you're from the

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Speaker 2: time in villages Residence council. Now the twelve month deadline

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Speaker 2: for getting your money back to you. Do you like that?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's say that everybody wants their money back as

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Speaker 3: soon as absolutely possible, but to be realistic and pragmatic,

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Speaker 3: we wanted some definition, some definite time frame about when

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Speaker 2: Carol, it does seem an extraordinary amount of time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that is far too long for anybody to be getting

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Speaker 2: Why is it so long?

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Speaker 3: I've lost you?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Now?

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Speaker 5: I can?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was saying, Carol, is twelve months is a

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Speaker 3: Well, Heather, if we were out of the open marketplace

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing in the retirement the libe sector.

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Speaker 3: It takes a reasonable amount of time for the unit

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you something though than that? Yeah, But

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Speaker 2: I think earlier this week that we're getting this massive

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Speaker 2: I can't help but feel that these villages are ripping

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that every single person is going

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Speaker 6: Get real here.

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Speaker 3: Many of them are re licensed long before that twelve

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Speaker 7: Haven't any assurance.

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Speaker 3: It's been an open end.

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Speaker 3: So if someone, for instance, had a dire situation where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant. Hey listen, Carol, as always, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time. That's Carol Shepherd, spokesperson for the

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Speaker 2: Retirement Village's Residence Council. Hither, I'm waiting for Unicloe to

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Speaker 2: come here. I'm from Malaysia. Winter wear is very nice.

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Speaker 2: Now Uniclo. I'm not familiar with Uniclo, but I have

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Speaker 2: stocks up on the unicloth So that is another apparently

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Speaker 2: another global retailer. We absolutely have to get the money from. Now,

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Speaker 2: get the money from. What am I talking about? Give

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware of this, but there is.

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Speaker 2: It's quite a thing that's blowing up with the T

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Speaker 2: and it's not going down very well. Let's get Darcy

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Speaker 2: here and we'll talk through it next right now, coming

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Speaker 2: Heither if you buy the village unit from the village,

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Speaker 2: when you no longer use it, you sell it back

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Speaker 2: to the village and they sell it to the next person.

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Speaker 2: This should be an instant transaction. This is ridiculous. That's

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Speaker 2: from Mike. Heather, calm down, breathe through your nose. When

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Speaker 2: you sign up for a retirement village, you must have

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Speaker 2: independent legal advice in the terms are very clear. That's

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Speaker 2: from Joanne. Thank you both.

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Speaker 8: Seventeen past four Sport with tab bed Live with in

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Speaker 9: Greetings, Heather, greetings, greetings, before we start looking at the

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Speaker 9: sports going on right here, right now, R eighteen bet

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Speaker 9: responsibly tab pushed to the weekend's a massive game. Excuse me,

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Speaker 9: frog in my throat coming up over the weekend. It's

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Speaker 9: the Derby in the eight We didn't want me coughing

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Speaker 2: Of course it's strange, aren't you.

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Speaker 10: No, I'm not strange.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being me.

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Speaker 10: I'm being authentic. That's the word.

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Speaker 9: I'm being authentic.

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Speaker 9: So you see one of them, Phoenix, they are playing

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Speaker 9: no lucking. That's reflected in the odds five dollars eighty.

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Speaker 9: They've got to turn this around eventually, Surely Aukland at

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Speaker 9: as you're over eighteen, you bet responsibly get into.

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Speaker 6: It, Heather.

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Speaker 2: I did get asked earlier on a text earlier this

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Speaker 2: Of course, how us your multi did come in will

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Speaker 2: be a day that I think we will be absolutely this.

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Speaker 9: Is not this is a bit of fun on money

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Speaker 9: you can afford to lose. It's not an investment.

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Speaker 2: This is ok it does Now you've read the open

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Speaker 2: letter slamming the tea tweeting.

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Speaker 9: I'm interested in the context of that letter because I've

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Speaker 9: And then you look at this.

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Speaker 9: What's happening, especially with Don McKinnon who's running it from

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Speaker 10: Hello, ms, very good afternoon here though, right so.

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Speaker 14: Keep some industry at home. What's upon? And don't we

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Speaker 14: to buy that's collapsed. Almost thirty percent collapse in the

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Speaker 14: last year to September, one third the size it was

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Speaker 14: three years ago. Now, if you spend fifty bucks in

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Speaker 14: a packet of cigarettes over here, twenty cigarettes, about thirty

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Speaker 14: five forty dollars of it is actually tax that goes

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Speaker 14: to the government. Here's the thing edit on the black mark.

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Speaker 14: A packet in Durries can be bought for ten or

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Speaker 14: twelve dollars. So the government tax takers down dramatically seven

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Speaker 14: billion this year. It was more than double that just

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Speaker 14: five years ago. And the other metric relates to health

448
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Speaker 14: today and I hadn't even thought of this. The tax

449
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Speaker 14: was devised according to governments back in the day to

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Speaker 14: discourage smoking. Let's tax this product to make it every

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Speaker 14: more expensive. Well, here's the thing. The sales legal tobacco

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Speaker 14: were dramatically down. Black market sales with the roof state

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Speaker 14: governments are saying, listen, common web government count the exercise.

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Speaker 14: We'll get rid of the criminals. They're all shooting each

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Speaker 14: other and fire bombing each other's shops. I don't think

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Speaker 14: anyone's died yet, but it's only a question of time

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Speaker 14: because they must have.

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Speaker 2: You have you stopped to think about how nutty this is.

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Speaker 2: They are fire bombing shots shops over illegal tobacco, for

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Speaker 2: God's sake.

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Speaker 14: I know that's nuts, right, it.

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Speaker 6: Really is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, MOUs listen, thanks very much for bringing us up

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Speaker 2: to speed on that. You have yourself a nice day.

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Speaker 2: That's Murray Old Australia correspondent, nineteen away from five Heather

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Speaker 2: du for see Allen, respectfully, Heather, you keep talking about

467
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Speaker 2: teachers fighting hard to keep their teacher only days during

468
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Speaker 2: term time, and what other profession to employees attend professional

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Speaker 2: development during their annual leave? Well, respectfully, Sarah, and one

470
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Speaker 2: other profession do you get three months and you'll leave

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Speaker 2: three months and you'll leave, which we keep getting told

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Speaker 2: is not annual leave, but actually teachers are working very hard.

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Speaker 2: Veil might have just slipped there a wee bit. Now

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Speaker 2: I have an update for you, because you know I've

475
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Speaker 2: been harping on, having a harping on, harping on about

476
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Speaker 2: how much in New Zealand sucks and how late they are,

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Speaker 2: and now I'm a huge convert to the jet Star.

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Speaker 2: Well today is Today's a big day. Today was the

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Speaker 2: day that I caught the Orange Bird for the first

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Speaker 2: time in about twenty years. It was one hour late. Yep,

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Speaker 2: there goes that story. So look, I wasn't stressed out

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Speaker 2: about it because I had built in some time because

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, the best predictor of future behavior

484
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Speaker 2: is past behavior, and it is jet Star, so we'll

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Speaker 2: see how it goes. And then the bloody Jetstar thing

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Speaker 2: happened to me. The thing that happens with Jetstar is

487
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Speaker 2: they are like flying all their metal all the time, right,

488
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Speaker 2: So the minute one plane goes down, they don't have

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Speaker 2: another spare plane. They could just whip onto the tarmac

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Speaker 2: and take the plate, so it just core. It creates

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Speaker 2: a domino effect. That plane is now running running lates,

492
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Speaker 2: and now everything's running lates. So everything was running lates.

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Speaker 2: We're an hour late. Anyway. Also, it was the husband

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Speaker 2: was a jet Star virgin until today and it was

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Speaker 2: a novel experience for him because we had to walk

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Speaker 2: in parts of the airport he's never walked in before

497
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Speaker 2: and he was like, he was freaking out. He was like,

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Speaker 2: where are we going? This is the tradesman's entrance.

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Speaker 14: What is this.

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, this is the way you got

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Speaker 2: a jet Star. It's down the back corridors. Watch out,

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Speaker 2: don't fall over. Okay, that's all right, No, you've survived.

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Speaker 2: But then we got there and then we bumped into

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Speaker 2: a CEO who I know, who was also catching Jetstar

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Speaker 2: and he had his mate Blair with him, and Blair

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Speaker 2: was a virgin as well, and they're all going down

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Speaker 2: for the same event that we're going down for. And

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Speaker 2: then we bumped into old mate Wat's her name, who

509
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Speaker 2: used to be on tally, can't remember her name right now,

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Speaker 2: got chatting to her. She was a jet Star virgin,

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Speaker 2: all on the same flight as me, all going to

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Speaker 2: the same event. So anyway, and the reason, the reason

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Speaker 2: she had booked the Jetstar was for the same reason

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Speaker 2: that we had, which as we looked at the n

515
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Speaker 2: New Zealand tickets and went whatever hour. But anyway, so

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Speaker 2: it look long in the short of it is it's

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Speaker 2: much of a muchness, isn't it. You know, you fly

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, you're definitely going to be late. You

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Speaker 2: fly a jet Star, you might be late, and if

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Speaker 2: you're late, you're very late, and you're having to walk

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Speaker 2: down parts of the co parts of the airport you

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Speaker 2: didn't know existed before.

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Speaker 8: Sixteen Away from five Politics with centrics credit check your

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Speaker 8: customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, I thought I had a bad my in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Flight New Plymouth to Auckland was delayed by two hours

527
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Speaker 2: and forty five minutes. Today it was just a day

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Speaker 2: of it by the looks of things. Thirteen Away from

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Speaker 2: five Barry Soper, Senior Political correspondence with us Hallo Barry,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. So what did we get out of court

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Speaker 2: with the male.

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Speaker 10: Well, nothing as yet, but Kappa KINGI seems to think

533
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Speaker 10: there'll be some sort of decision. I mean, she is

534
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Speaker 10: appealing against her expulsion from the party and she's seeking

535
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Speaker 10: an injunction against the party and in her firing line

536
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Speaker 10: is very much John Tammaheady and you know she she

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Speaker 10: emerged from the court, she seemed quite happy with the

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Speaker 10: way it was conducted. But she did leave no one

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Speaker 10: in any doubt that party President John Tammaherry is firmly

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Speaker 10: in her sight.

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Speaker 16: It requires a certain way of being, you know, and practice,

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Speaker 16: and from my experience and my point of view and

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Speaker 16: my observations, those things aren't evident. And so I think

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Speaker 16: we're ready for a new leadership actually at that executive

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Speaker 16: and council level. And it's my it's my party, and

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Speaker 16: I'll cry if I want to. I'm neither confident or

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Speaker 16: not confident, but I'm glad to have had one's day

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Speaker 16: in court again, you might see.

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Speaker 10: And it's interesting that she doesn't even though she lives

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Speaker 10: in the same oh sorry, shares the same office as

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Speaker 10: Takuta Ferrs. She's not sure whether he's joining in any

552
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Speaker 10: court action. He in the past has said no, I

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Speaker 10: don't want it. But look, there is an AGM coming

554
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Speaker 10: up very shortly, and I guess all cards will be

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Speaker 10: on the table.

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Speaker 17: Then.

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Speaker 2: See the Prime Minister turned up in Ikea today.

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Speaker 10: Isn't that wonderful? You know, I think it's great. And

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Speaker 10: a lot of the media turned up and you.

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Speaker 2: Know this is a lot of the media. Didn't the

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Speaker 2: entire media turn Oh maybe they did.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think, look, it's it's a great day

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Speaker 10: for New Zealand when a big international company decides to

564
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Speaker 10: open up here, and I think we should be celebrating

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Speaker 10: that rather than many have been criticizing it. And I

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Speaker 10: can't quite understand, because we are looking for good things

567
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Speaker 10: in this country and this is one good thing, just

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Speaker 10: like Costco was as well. So you know, apparently shoppers

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Speaker 10: were gathered outside at four forty five, as early as

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Speaker 10: four forty five am this morning. It opened at eleven

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Speaker 10: o'clock and there wasn't the goodlock of traffic apparently people

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Speaker 10: that were still car parks when people arrived at the

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Speaker 10: opening time of eleven o'clock. But look, the Prime min

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Speaker 10: is to cut an appropriately blue ribbon to declare the

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Speaker 10: megastore open, and for all the detractors, he had this

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Speaker 10: to say.

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Speaker 18: He got a large multinational that's may have chosen to

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Speaker 18: make his first investment in New Zealand. It's taken some

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Speaker 18: time to get to this point. It creates local employment opportunities.

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Speaker 18: There's five hundred and.

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Speaker 1: Forty staff here already.

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Speaker 18: Most of them have never worked for a care before,

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Speaker 18: they've been trained, and importantly, you've also had a whole

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Speaker 18: bunch of economic activity with contractors and people that are

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Speaker 18: supporting the retailer here. So you know, it's a good

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Speaker 18: news story. It's a classic case of where investment creates

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Speaker 18: opportunity in jobs as well as more competition. That's just

588
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Speaker 18: a good thing for New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: Were you yawning then, Heather?

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Speaker 2: No, oh love, what did he buy? He bought something

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Speaker 2: and he want to tell anybody what he bought?

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Speaker 10: Well, apparently what he bought was and I thought it

593
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Speaker 10: was rather unusual for a teetotaler, rather surprisingly. He bought

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Speaker 10: a set of wine glasses for entertaining others. Of course,

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Speaker 10: I'd imagine a watering can to presumably called down or

596
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Speaker 10: called down the over and bibers that use the wine glasses.

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Speaker 10: And a blue I've never heard of one Franca bag

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Speaker 10: and that's it's blue, of course, and I assume that's

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Speaker 10: got something to do with designer.

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Speaker 2: What he did, he just went around and was like

601
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Speaker 2: he was, He was just like, what can I buy?

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Speaker 2: What's quick? That that gone? That's what he did?

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Speaker 17: Eh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And good on them.

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Speaker 10: For being out there because this is a success story

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Speaker 10: for now.

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Speaker 2: Now, have the questions have been asked about Sonny Kochal.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and I know you've asked questions before about what

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Speaker 10: what Sonny is being paid. Well, they just as ministries

611
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Speaker 10: before the Scrutiny Week Scrutiny week at Parliament today, the

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Speaker 10: head of it, he's defending Sunny Kocial's work as chairman

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Speaker 10: of that ministerial group, including the two hundred and twenty

614
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Speaker 10: seven dollars and eighty five five hundred and eighty five

615
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Speaker 10: dollars in pay and three two hundred dollars for a

616
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Speaker 10: morning tea event in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Surely not just for himself.

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Speaker 19: Well, no, so.

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Speaker 2: I think Bry's dying.

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Speaker 10: Sonny might be well, he's not that large. I don't

621
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Speaker 10: think he could manage that. But look, it's really interesting

622
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Speaker 10: labor MPs. They revealed that Koshal had built so many

623
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Speaker 10: hours between February and July that he almost certainly worked

624
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Speaker 10: weekends and public holidays. Well, the head of the ministry, Kibblewhite,

625
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Speaker 10: Andrew Kibblewhite, he says that look, he's a very hard

626
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Speaker 10: worker and he may well have done that, but he

627
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Speaker 10: also earned you know, a lot. He's earned a lot

628
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Speaker 10: of money on top of that. But he's Kershel himself

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Speaker 10: is at back saying that labor playing politics, and then

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Speaker 10: he did exactly the same thing himself. He said basically

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Speaker 10: that this is a declaration or a distraction from the

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Speaker 10: real problem, and that's retail crime that's doubled since nineteen

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Speaker 10: twenty nineteen under the Labor Watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he was playing the same game as he coues,

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Speaker 10: thank you very much, and makes a lot of money.

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Speaker 14: Out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Arry very so for senior political correspondent

639
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Speaker 2: seven away from five. Oh, come on, you really can't

640
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Speaker 2: see why people are bagging Ka and Costco. It's because

641
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Speaker 2: yet again, it's only an fing Auckland.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: That is kind of true, but also not kind of

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Speaker 2: not true, because don't forget, there are all these little like,

645
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Speaker 2: i don't know quite what you call them, like deposit

646
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Speaker 2: points or something like that along the country, up and

647
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Speaker 2: down the country. You can order the IQ online. They've

648
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Speaker 2: got this fantastic lord and now I'm basically doing exactly

649
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Speaker 2: what I've accused that all the rest of the media

650
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Speaker 2: fizzing about them. But there is a little like they've

651
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Speaker 2: got this little function on the app where you can

652
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Speaker 2: you could take a photograph or whatever of your house

653
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Speaker 2: and see how the product would look in your house,

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Speaker 2: so you can buy it. You can know how it's

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Speaker 2: gonna look, you can order it, you can pick it

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Speaker 2: up at the Blaze. It's not just for Auckland's fullestall anyway.

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Speaker 2: On that subject, the warehouse is hustling hard today, man, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you this a long time since we've seen anybody

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Speaker 2: hustle this hardy. And this is because of the Ika opening.

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Speaker 2: They've opened a pop up store in an old warehouse

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Speaker 2: in mount Eden that I don't think they've used for

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Speaker 2: about ten years. And this is basically for anyone who

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to go to Ikea, come along to the warehouse,

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Speaker 2: they're saying. And then they've been bombing the socials. So

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Speaker 2: n ZTA put up a Facebook post warning about bad

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Speaker 2: traffic around the Ikea store, and in the comments for

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Speaker 2: warehouse official account just weighs in and says just skip

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Speaker 2: the cues and come see us. At one about twenty

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Speaker 2: two Auckland stores sunglasses smiley emoji face. It went down

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Speaker 2: a treat. They are about four hundred at last count

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Speaker 2: when I saw it four hundred thumbs up and laughs

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Speaker 2: from other people, and then of course they're running out

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Speaker 2: the ads as well. Anyway, you've got to love the

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Speaker 2: hotspa from the Warehouse and if you needed proof that

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Speaker 2: there is some good coming from Ikea coming to the country,

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Speaker 2: that's it right there. The warehouse is actually lifting its game. Now,

677
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Speaker 2: big day for Australia. Although it doesn't kick in. This

678
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Speaker 2: is the social media band for the kids. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: kick in until next week. I think next Wednesday. Facebook's

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Speaker 2: already started to kick the kids off. They're deleting accounts,

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Speaker 2: go and nat so on it. So we're going to

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Speaker 2: speak to Stephen Sheila, who's a former Facebook Australian New

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Speaker 2: Zealand CEO. He's going to be with us in the

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Speaker 2: next hour, but straight after five o'clock let's talk to

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Speaker 2: Finally, after all the waiting and the traffic warnings and

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Speaker 2: the excitement. Ikea has opened in Auckland and given how

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Speaker 2: much we fizzed for it, analysts are expecting it's going

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Speaker 2: to have quite an impact on retail in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Paul Karaua is a retail analyst at Full Sythe by

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Speaker 2: High Paul Hi. Paul, has it been a successful launch

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Speaker 2: day or a little bit disappointing given the numbers who

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Speaker 2: actually turned up after all that hype?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think because of all the hype, a lot

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Speaker 19: of people have steered away from going and missing the

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Speaker 19: curb today. I think the real tell tale sign will

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Speaker 19: be how it performs through the weekend in the lead

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Speaker 19: up to Christmas. And so while maybe we haven't seen

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Speaker 19: the numbers that we thought we were going to get today,

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Speaker 19: I think it's going to show over the next few

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Speaker 19: sort of weeks.

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Speaker 2: The six percent of the market that you'll pretere of

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Speaker 2: the retail market you're predicting it's going to take seems

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Speaker 2: quite a big number for something that's just started.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so percent of the sort of industries that they

711
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Speaker 19: play in, and so this is in the home furnishing

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Speaker 19: sort of market, artment store market, and this comes from

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Speaker 19: stats New Zealand and the number of the actual number

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Speaker 19: on that was one hundred and nineteen million. That's sort

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Speaker 19: of what we thought IKEA was going to do and

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Speaker 19: the way we think about it, as you know, the

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Speaker 19: thirty four thousand square meter of store, based on some

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Speaker 19: of the sales deentities that they run in Australia, their

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Speaker 19: sales per square meter, you can sort of back up

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Speaker 19: where you think it's going to it's going to fall out.

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Speaker 19: And I think based on some of the feedback we've

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Speaker 19: got from from some people who work there, that that

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Speaker 19: number seems to be in and around the right number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and did you see the warehouse has already started

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Speaker 2: hustling hard today.

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Speaker 14: I have not seen it. No, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: It is it is quite a thing to watch, Paul.

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Speaker 2: But I mean this would be an indication, This would

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Speaker 2: be a sign, wouldn't of how ike will impact competition?

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Speaker 19: Yes, No, absolutely. I think it's a good thing for

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Speaker 19: the end consumer because a lot of these retailers are

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Speaker 19: going to be working on their products, working on their pricing,

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Speaker 19: working on their ranging to you know, when what they

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Speaker 19: believe is their fair share of the market, and you know,

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Speaker 19: the upshot for the consumers you're going to have access

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Speaker 19: to the better prices, better products, and you know, more

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Speaker 19: affordable range of goods. So you know, watching this competition happen,

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Speaker 19: I think will be a good thing for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Now do you see IKEA opening in New Zealand as

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Speaker 2: a sign of success that they see a market here,

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Speaker 2: that they see enough buying power here to come and

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Speaker 2: establish here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely.

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Speaker 19: I think it's the market that they've been looking at

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Speaker 19: for a while. I think, you know, understanding how the

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Speaker 19: New Zealand market sort of operates, they've been working on

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Speaker 19: for for a long time and so they actually into

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Speaker 19: a number of New Zealand households to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 19: the sort of products that New Zealand consumers think they're

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Speaker 19: under serviced in where they're not getting the right price

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Speaker 19: on certain products, and that's sort of what they've been

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Speaker 19: focusing on. So their engine is actually a little bit

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Speaker 19: smaller than that you might see in another country, but

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Speaker 19: they've really brought the things specialized to what they think

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Speaker 19: that keries need. And I think the other interesting point

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Speaker 19: is that they've actually opened up nationwide distribution from day one,

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Speaker 19: and this is something that you know, they don't typically

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Speaker 19: do when they open into a new market. But understanding

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Speaker 19: how excited Kiri is not just in Land are about

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Speaker 19: the heaping by care. They've made it successful for everyone

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Speaker 19: across jill And to have access to these products.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul listen, thanks very much for talking us. For

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Speaker 2: Paul Kahwa, who is the full South Bar retail analyst.

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Speaker 2: Ten past five, Heather Do for ce Ellen. Secondary strikes

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Speaker 2: are over. This is the teachers. Obviously, the p p

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Speaker 2: t A union members have voted in favor of the

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Speaker 2: government's payoffer and the p b t A president Chris

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Speaker 2: Abercrombie is with us.

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Speaker 1: I Chrisody, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm well, thank you? You happy with the deal.

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Speaker 20: We're pleased that we're going to be able to start

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Speaker 20: the new year in a settled environment.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Am I right in thinking you've managed to secure the

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Speaker 2: ability to continue to take teachers only days during term time.

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Speaker 20: Uh, well there's still there's always existed because it's the

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Speaker 20: minister that decides teacher any days. But yeah, so there's

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Speaker 20: no changes for the callback provisions that was in this

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Speaker 20: later settlement.

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Speaker 2: Have you lost some ability to claim expenses though?

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Speaker 11: Are yes?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 20: During a teacher call days during a normal term time day,

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Speaker 20: then yeah, you won't be able to claim expenses.

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Speaker 2: So, but you are able to do it if it's

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Speaker 2: during holidays, presumably, yes, claim those expenses.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so yeah, when the school when the schools closed

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Speaker 20: for instruction.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, Chris, In that case, it should incentivize secondary

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Speaker 2: teachers to actually take those teacher only days the professional

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Speaker 2: development during during holiday time.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's up to schools to decide that.

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Speaker 6: It's not the teachers.

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Speaker 20: Don't decide to do teacher any days in term time.

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Speaker 20: It's a minister decision or a school decision and when

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Speaker 20: to do those. It's not individual teachers deciding that.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. How long before we start getting another round

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Speaker 2: of this stuff?

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Speaker 20: So the our Colectic of agreement expires at the end

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Speaker 20: of twenty twenty seven, so we'll be starting our process

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Speaker 20: of claims negotiations about mid twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Hey, thank you very much, Chris appreciated. Chris Abercrombi

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Speaker 2: PPTA present towel plus.

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Speaker 1: Five Heather do for see Allen.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's still a bit of a grind on the

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Speaker 2: old property market. I'm sorry to tell you. Co Tality

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Speaker 2: new Zealand's numbers for November show that there was zero growth.

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Speaker 2: This is across the country, zero growth for November and

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Speaker 2: for the year we actually went backwards by zero point

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Speaker 2: seven percent nationally, so your property price came down. But

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Speaker 2: you already know this right Auckland. If you look at

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Speaker 2: the main centers, Auckland is down by zero point two percent,

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Speaker 2: Dunedin is up by zero point one percent, up, Wellington's

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Speaker 2: up by zero point one percent. This is for the

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Speaker 2: month of November. Christ Church is up by zero point

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Speaker 2: three percent, totaling up by zero point six percent. Hamilton

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Speaker 2: up by zero point seven percent. So you can see

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Speaker 2: for Ozzie teens is still a week away, but Facebook

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Speaker 2: has started kicking the kids off today. Stephen Sheila is

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Speaker 2: with us. Welcome back, Steven, good to be here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: do any idea how many they've kicked off?

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Speaker 1: I don't know yet, but they're starting.

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Speaker 21: I think there's you know, there's several hundred thousand teens

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Speaker 21: that fall into this category and on across Meta's two

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Speaker 21: platforms of Instagram at Facebook, so you know they're probably

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Speaker 21: getting into the thousands or tens of thousands already.

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Speaker 2: I got a text earlier that said, if you go

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Speaker 2: to Reddit you can see how to get around this

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Speaker 2: in about five minutes flat. Is that a fact?

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Speaker 21: I think there's going to be a lot of forums

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Speaker 21: like that. You know, the internet moves fast, the teams

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Speaker 21: of hacks that get around this that are being talked

873
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 21: about online. But the government here has said essentially, this

874
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 21: won't be hackable. We will find and shut down these

875
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 21: hacks around getting around it. And now we'll see whether

876
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 21: that plays out or not. But the government seems very

877
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 21: determined to ensure that there's not easy ways around this.

878
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 21: But whether platforms or fourteens.

879
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Stephen, how are you feeling about it. We're sitting here

880
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: one week away from something that has been the subject

881
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: of much debate and I guess skepticism about whether it

882
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: will work. Do you feel confident it will.

883
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 21: I feel like this is my personal opinion. I've been

884
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 21: out of Facebook for many years now, and I have

885
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 21: young kids, but I think the new normal is going

886
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 21: to become sixteen. The research is pretty much overwhelmingly showing

887
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 21: this is sort of neuroscience and behavioral research. It's shown

888
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 21: that teens in that thirteen, fourteen to fifteen range there

889
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 21: is a lot of challenge for them in these algorithmic platforms. Now,

890
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 21: there are benefits to social media from many teens as well.

891
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 21: But the negative effects I think are just just too pronounced,

892
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 21: too obvious that we need to start to think about

893
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 21: moving this age. So I think I think it will work.

894
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 21: I think it will work. If I had to predict,

895
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 21: I think the platforms will make it work. I think

896
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 21: the government here is determined to make it work. And

897
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 21: therefore I think around the world you're going to see

898
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 21: more governments over the next few years start to move

899
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 21: to make sixteen the new normal.

900
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: With social media, you can only go So Steven is

901
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: good to talk to you, mate, Thanks so much. Stephen Sheila,

902
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: former Facebook Australia New Zealand CEO. I'll keep an eye

903
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: on that, of course, next week when it kicks in.

904
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: Listen back here. The government's opened its books today. This

905
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: will be no surprise to you. If you're running your

906
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: own budget and you're going jees, it's tough times financially,

907
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: and you're running your business budget, you go all tough

908
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: times financially. Government's books are worse than expected. Tough times

909
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: financially because we're all going through the same recession. So

910
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: to the end of October, the budget deficit is larger

911
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 2: than expected. I think that they were looking at around

912
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: about four point two billion in deficit. It's four point

913
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: nine billion, so it's a reasonable amount. The tax take

914
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: is lower than forecast. The corporate tax was down happily

915
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: though the net debt was lower than expected. It's come

916
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 2: in at just short of one hundred and eighty seven

917
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: billion dollars, which is about forty three percent of the

918
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: value of the economy. The next update, the next update

919
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: is actually a significant update, and we're to get to

920
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: get at about a fortnight or so, and that is

921
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: the half year economic update. Now you will be hearing

922
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: it if you're still at work in a fortnit so.

923
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: So let's talk about that summer break that you're planning

924
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: on having next five to twenty.

925
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Heather

926
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: dificy Ellen Drive with One Zealand coverage like no one

927
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: else news talks. They'd be hither.

928
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Who's worried about Facebook and social media? When kids can

929
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: access poorn et cetera online without great difficulty listen, they

930
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to and the porn website should be

931
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: forced to do the same thing. And the fact that

932
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: we've just accepted this for the longest time is probably

933
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: the problematic thing, although I realized how we got here anyway.

934
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: Five twenty three. Here's a question for you. Is our

935
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 2: summer holiday too long? Are we going to the beach

936
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: and staying away from the office for too long? There's

937
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: a chap called Toss Grumley who thinks so. He's written

938
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: a column about it. He's a young mover and shaker,

939
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: business advisor, director investor in multiple New Zealand entities. Here

940
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: reckons that our summer breaks are so long now that

941
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: we're pretty much winding down from November and then we're

942
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: only sparking up again in February, which means that we're

943
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: taking about ten weeks of productive conversations out of the

944
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: business calendar, and it's hurting our productivity. And we have

945
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: no retail spending in January rarely to speak of, and

946
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: businesses have poor cash flow at the start of the

947
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: year when they come to have a look at it

948
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: in April May, because they are taking excessively long shutdown periods. Now,

949
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: I think Toss has got a point here.

950
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 6: We do this.

951
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: This is why you'll see the Reserve Bank leaves the

952
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: economy basically in the park. For two months until they

953
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: come back in February. But then again, I don't want

954
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: this to change, do you. I would rather work flat

955
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: out for eleven months a year and then take a

956
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: nice long break over summer than work all year round

957
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: and even pace. I think this is just human nature,

958
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: because summer is for enjoying. Summer is for spending with

959
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: your kids. It's for going out there, having a swim,

960
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: getting out in the sun, doing all the things that

961
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: make life worth living, seeing your family, all the good stuff.

962
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Plenty of countries do this too, We're not the only ones.

963
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: Try getting anything done in Europe in the month of

964
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: August and you are out of luck this year. The

965
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: Bank of England, just just by way of an example,

966
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: you go look at any central bank. Bank of England

967
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: will not make a single decision for the entire month

968
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: of August, and then also for the first two weeks

969
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: of September. Now, maybe Toss has a point that the

970
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: summer is getting too long. Maybe we should be powering

971
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: ourselves right up until Christmas, then stopping and then coming

972
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: back after maybe four or five weeks and getting stuck

973
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: into it again at the start of February, rather than

974
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: taking ten weeks off with our brains. Fair enough, But

975
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: can I just say this, I urge caution here. We

976
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: have a really great work life balance in this country.

977
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: We understand that life is for living, not just for working.

978
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: We have a joy about our lives. Don't throw that

979
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: away too easily either, dup see Allen? Okay, have you done?

980
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: Have you opened your Spotify? It's the day. This is

981
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: the day of the year when they do the Spotify unwrapped.

982
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: So it'll tell you your top you know what I'm

983
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: talking about. It it tells you you top albums, top musician's,

984
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: top top songs. The new thing that Spotify has gone

985
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: got is your listening age. I am very, very sad

986
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: to tell you my listening age is sixty four. Ye

987
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: have now ever, and what's your listening age?

988
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: Then?

989
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 11: Seventeen for me here?

990
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So you choose, do you want to be

991
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: seventeen or do you want to be sixty four.

992
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 11: I'm taking seventeen any day of the week.

993
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: He is taking seventeen. It says a lot about ants.

994
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: But look anyway, I looked at it and I thought, okay,

995
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: and what it said was you were listening age of

996
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: sixty four because you're into music from the late seventies.

997
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: I thought, oh no, that's okay. I can explain that

998
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: because my son, who's three years old and also has

999
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: a listening age of sixty four, absolutely loves this song

1000
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: and has drummed along to it a thousand times this year.

1001
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: I swear to God, if I never have to listen

1002
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: to the song ever again in my life, it will

1003
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: be a happy date. Well, it wouldn't be a happy

1004
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: day because my son wouldn't be.

1005
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: No.

1006
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: I'll take the song with the son because I love

1007
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: the boy. But lord, I know the song inside out anyway,

1008
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: So I was gonna blame him, right, And then we're

1009
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: going through the list of this either you'll top song

1010
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, top song number one?

1011
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 6: Is this one?

1012
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Sure?

1013
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 11: That's right, that's right.

1014
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm forty one years old, it's twenty twenty five, and

1015
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: I'm still listening to Chris Rie as Josephine. How sad

1016
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: am I So I'm just as much to blame for

1017
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: it anyway. This is my top five. Josephine, Chris Ria,

1018
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: a seven nation Army, the White Stripes. That's Iggy. I

1019
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: don't live here anymore. The War on drugs, that's me.

1020
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: Games of Luck by Parcels that's me. Rasboutine, boney m

1021
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: definitely iggy. Top album to Fudo Tea WakaWaka by Marlon Williams.

1022
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: So slightly embarrassed, not altogether embarrassed. Still doing better than

1023
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: ants seventeen. So what would you rather have?

1024
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 22: Culture?

1025
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: All fun in your life? Culture a anyway? Next up?

1026
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: Answer disagrees. Next up, talk about the T twenty league

1027
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: that's driving people nuts Newstalks.

1028
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: It'd be hard questions, strong opinion. Hither duplicy Ellen drive

1029
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

1030
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: New Soalks, it'd be.

1031
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: It's not been too bad for Fonterra by the way,

1032
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: Q yeah, Q one results from Fonterra, they're not looking

1033
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: too bad to me. Or Jamie McKay is going to

1034
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: be with us after six o'clock. Hither I work in

1035
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: a services consulting company. We are flat out until Christmas.

1036
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: Things crack up, but crank up most about the third

1037
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: week of January. And I think most service based companies

1038
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: would be like this. We'll talks to the huddle, they're

1039
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: going to be with us shortly and seem I mean

1040
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: it's a fair point to make. It might be the

1041
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: office peed, It might be people sitting around in the

1042
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: office who go off swe off for seven week long holidays.

1043
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: But most people who are doing services and important like

1044
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: actual important work in the actual important work in the country,

1045
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: they don't take that longer break, do they. Twenty four

1046
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: away from six now the proposed T twenty competition for

1047
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's got the backup of a number of

1048
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: former black Caps who've written an open letter opposing it.

1049
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: The allegations that they make include the fact that if

1050
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: the league is set up, it will put the upcoming

1051
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Test Series against Australia and jeopardy. It's Scott weenenk who's

1052
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: the boss of New Zealand Cricket, has been put under

1053
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: pressure to accept the new league, and that the new

1054
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: league has lost its financial backing. Richard Petree is a

1055
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: former black Cap who signed the letter and is with us.

1056
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 6: Hey, Richard, hey, here, then, how are you?

1057
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Now are you opposed to

1058
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: the idea of a T twenty league here altogether or

1059
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: are you just opposed to this one?

1060
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 23: We're opposed to this one and the way it's the

1061
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 23: way it's being proposed. So no, we're for anything that's

1062
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 23: for good of New Zealand cricket, but if it's done

1063
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 23: a certain way, there are major consequences with everything and

1064
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 23: the way this one is set up is not a

1065
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 23: good look from our point of view.

1066
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: One of the concerns that you've raised is that if

1067
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: we were to go ahead with it, we would be

1068
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: tying up our local cricket as and some of them

1069
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 2: would be Black Caps to play in domestic cricket for January.

1070
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: But isn't that a good thing for domestic cricket.

1071
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 23: Well, it would be, but not at the expense of

1072
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 23: there's a tour of Australia. The fourth Test in New

1073
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 23: Zealand against Australia is going into January. So what happens

1074
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 23: there if all your players, including Black Caps are being

1075
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 23: pulled in and understanding is they all have to sign

1076
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 23: and make themselves available in January for this competition. Effort

1077
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 23: was to go ahead. Well, what happens to your Test

1078
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 23: team in January when they all get pulled out to

1079
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 23: go and play this provincial t twenty tall What happens

1080
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 23: to the shrink and tour which is scheduled to be

1081
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 23: during that time and then India is not long after.

1082
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 7: So if you can imagine a metaphor or a.

1083
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 23: Similar situation, imagine rugby and you know, a group coming

1084
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 23: up to New Zealand Rugby and saying, hey, you know

1085
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 23: how you've got all these tests lined up in June July.

1086
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 23: We've contracted all your players in June and we'd like

1087
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 23: to borrow them to go and play some I don't know,

1088
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 23: some sevens games, but we'll give them back to you

1089
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 23: in July. And New Zealand Rugby would say, well, hang on,

1090
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 23: we've got a whole test schedule lined up, we've got

1091
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 23: international games.

1092
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 7: And they're going, oh, well, you know we've signed them first,

1093
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 7: We've promised.

1094
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 23: Them a lot of money. Sorry about that, maybe you play.

1095
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: Your B team, you know.

1096
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 7: So there's all that sort of consequences and you know, and.

1097
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 23: You know, part of the where the money is in

1098
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 23: cracket is TV rights. So you can imagine Sonny, which

1099
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 23: is Sonny from India and you've got Sky TV, who

1100
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 23: I believe have put down two hundred million for five

1101
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 23: years to get the TV rights to New Zealand cricket. Now,

1102
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 23: if you're pulling out top cricketers in January. It's like

1103
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 23: kind of selling a gourmet pie with no meat in

1104
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 23: it and they're going to turn around and go, hang on,

1105
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 23: where's the meat.

1106
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: Now, Richard? Is this not what other countries are doing?

1107
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: And because I mean everybody else seems to have anybody

1108
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: who matters has a T twenty league.

1109
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 23: Yeah, good, good point. West Indies have done it. Their

1110
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 23: test cricket has fallen from being the greatest sort of

1111
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 23: Test team in the world to not much. There's a

1112
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 23: T twenty competition in Australia, the Big Bash, but that's

1113
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 23: kind of controlled by Australian Cricket. It's not an independent

1114
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 23: outfit that's come in and said we want to play

1115
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 23: during your summer. Australian Cricket you just wouldn't get away

1116
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 23: with that. There's there's one in South Africa, but I

1117
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 23: mean South Africans are you know they need the money?

1118
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 6: Who you know it's.

1119
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: Isn't now Super Smash losing money?

1120
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 6: Well?

1121
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 23: Oh the Super Smash would be Yeah, there'd be lots

1122
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 23: of parts. I mean, most families lose money apart from

1123
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 23: one person who brings it in, So you've got to

1124
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 23: kind of make sure that you've got whoever's bring the

1125
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 23: money in is reasonably generous to everybody else to keep

1126
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 23: everyone else going.

1127
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1128
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 23: So yeah, I mean, but the whole thing hither is

1129
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 23: you take away the money from this league. Would anyone

1130
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 23: be thinking running a provincial T twenty league in January

1131
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 23: pulling bars out of say a test versus Tralia, There

1132
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 23: would be no one who said this is a good idea.

1133
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 23: The only reason that people think it's a good idea

1134
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 23: is the money.

1135
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 7: That's the only reason. Now it's going to base your

1136
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 7: decisions based.

1137
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 23: Solely on one thing, and it's the money. And it's

1138
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 23: not guaranteed either. I mean, you're dealing with these legs.

1139
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 23: Most of them lose money in the first three years, right,

1140
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 23: So the New Zealand league doesn't go that well, they

1141
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 23: lose money, and whoever's funding it pulls out.

1142
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 6: Then what are you left with?

1143
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 7: You know, you've kind of decimated your test.

1144
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 23: You know, there's all sorts of you know, second and

1145
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 23: third order consequences from this, one of them being New

1146
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 23: Zealand Cricket loses a whole lot of money in TV

1147
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 23: rights and its probably struggles to produce the services they

1148
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 23: need to do to look after all the stakeholders in

1149
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 23: New Zealand.

1150
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: Richard, it's been very interesting to talk to you. Thank

1151
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: you very much for your perspective on that. That's Richard Petrie,

1152
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: former black Cap. Heather Spotify says, my listening age is

1153
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: twenty eight, not bad for a fifty eight year old.

1154
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: Dennis nineteen away from six.

1155
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty a name

1156
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

1157
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: On the Huddle with US seven we have Mark Sainsbury

1158
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: broadcaster and Thomas Scrimser of the Maximus that you'd hire

1159
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: you too good?

1160
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 6: Here are you, Heather Sames?

1161
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: Are you?

1162
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: You were a cricket fan?

1163
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 13: Look, no, I got hit in the very sensitive area

1164
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 13: with a full toss that was in the third form

1165
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 13: and that put me.

1166
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 6: Out in support for it forever.

1167
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now every time you watch it, you yeah.

1168
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 6: But as it went on, I mean they started, let's

1169
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 6: start what this is all about.

1170
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 13: It's trying to make sport more attractive at an event

1171
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 13: and get people along, you know, you know, like I did,

1172
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 13: I sat down, I would ever normally.

1173
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 17: Watch the eshes.

1174
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 13: I started watching it because it was all over in

1175
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 13: two days. So I can see there must be so

1176
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 13: tinking them to look at something like this. But I

1177
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 13: think Richard Petrie's biggest complaint, I think, seems to be

1178
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 13: that it's the outside of control of New Zealand Cricket,

1179
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 13: that a private enterity, you control it.

1180
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Thomas, do you have do you have any

1181
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: concerns about this and about the chasing of the dollar here?

1182
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 24: Well, I think there'd be concerns if people aren't doing

1183
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 24: their due diligence, But I think in general it should

1184
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 24: be something that's explored because I guess we hear a

1185
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 24: lot about is this good for New Zealand cricket as

1186
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 24: an abstract thing, but I think is it better for

1187
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 24: current players in New Zealand cricket who are trying to

1188
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 24: earn a wage and if there's more people competing to

1189
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 24: hire them to play cricket, one would expect they earn

1190
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 24: more money. That's why they would go and play for

1191
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 24: a new league as opposed to existing ones. So I

1192
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 24: think New Zealand Cricket has a vested interest in blocking this.

1193
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 24: It's just not clear to me that that's because of

1194
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 24: their desire for the good of the game rather than

1195
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 24: New Zealand Cricket trying to protect their turf.

1196
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1197
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: I tell you what I think is fascinating saying so,

1198
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: is that there is all at the moment, there is

1199
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: so much disruption if you think about it. And this

1200
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: was pointed out to me by somebody who's very smart

1201
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: the other day. Cricket is going through this where there

1202
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: is massive disruption in the CEO is in trouble. Netball

1203
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: is going through this where there is massive disruption and

1204
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: the CEO is in trouble. And it's not long ago

1205
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: that Rugby went through this with silver Lake and they

1206
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 2: can't find a CEO.

1207
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, something's in the water.

1208
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 13: It is something in the border. And this is the

1209
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 13: other confusing thing about this. It seems that you know,

1210
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 13: some of the big and the major provincial cricketing associations

1211
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 13: are sort of a sort.

1212
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 6: Of right behind it.

1213
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 13: And then you've got again this tension going on at

1214
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 13: New Zealand Cricket with a CEO which peers is a

1215
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 13: bit on the OUTHA.

1216
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's water, Heather. Yeah.

1217
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: I would like to put to you, Thomas that the

1218
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: financial model that we have used for sport in this

1219
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: country is broken.

1220
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 24: Oh yeah, I'm sure it is. I mean, part of

1221
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 24: the problem is that entertainment is global now. Heaps of

1222
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 24: young Kiwi kids are watching basketball, or watching American football,

1223
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 24: or just watching videos on TikTok. Sport used to have

1224
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 24: this central local place in our entertainment network and now

1225
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 24: it just doesn't. So it's harder to compete for viewers.

1226
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 24: And I think the financial models just aren't going to

1227
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 24: be viable and they're going to have to reinvent themselves.

1228
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: Okay, now, guys, get ready to be honest, because I

1229
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: want to know next from you when you're going away

1230
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: for summer and how long you're going for. We'll get

1231
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: back to that.

1232
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: Quarter two The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real Team,

1233
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: the only truly global brand.

1234
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: You're back with the Huddle, Thomas Scrimger, Mark Sainsbury. All right, Thomas,

1235
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: when are you going away on your holiday break?

1236
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 24: I'm working through to the nineteenth and then flying off

1237
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 24: to Canada on the twenty second, so you know, working

1238
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 24: most of the way to Christmas. My old man will

1239
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 24: be a bit disappointed in me. He always told me

1240
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 24: that the best worked out of the year is the

1241
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 24: twenty third of December. You need one day's leave before Christmas,

1242
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 24: and but on the twenty third of December all the

1243
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 24: slackers have gone home, so he can get some real

1244
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 24: good work done. I'm knocking off on the nineteenth, so

1245
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 24: probably letting the family down.

1246
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: Gone for how long?

1247
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 11: Gone for two weeks?

1248
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh, there's really short and then you're back at work.

1249
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 24: Might take a few more days off, but yeah, you know,

1250
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 24: you go, you take a break, and then how long

1251
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 24: does anyone want a holiday for?

1252
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 14: Anyway?

1253
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: You know what's a holiday? Saying so, I mean you

1254
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: are on your on constant holiday, aren't.

1255
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 6: You perman holiday? Yeah? That's right.

1256
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckon?

1257
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 6: It?

1258
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 16: Is?

1259
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: This chap tosk got a point those saying so that

1260
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: we're taking far too long nowadays.

1261
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 6: Well it could be, but some of the stone if

1262
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 6: you choice to tell me here that if.

1263
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 17: You said the ZB I want to work right through Christmas,

1264
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 17: and then reads I want to have a holiday. But

1265
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 17: later they'd go, no, no, we need you for our

1266
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 17: peak rating periods and whatever.

1267
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 6: And it used to be the same in TV. You're

1268
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 6: forced to head to take your.

1269
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 13: Leave in January because it was considered the sort of

1270
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 13: least profitable sort of time for.

1271
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: Them, So that thought all that, So that and you've

1272
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 6: got the school holidays, people are away. Like I see

1273
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 6: his point, but we do go into this thing.

1274
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 13: We go into the thing over the summer where you know,

1275
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 13: like I'm trying to run Means Health Week when looking

1276
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 13: at different sponsors, I know, I don't get something done

1277
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 13: literally before December starts trying to get to people as impossible,

1278
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 13: and then it is February before they're back.

1279
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: To make this argument saying, so the reason you can't

1280
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: get anybody in December is not because they're not working.

1281
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: They are working in December. It's just we're so flat

1282
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: out with everything else that's going on that we haven't got.

1283
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: We have to finish the work we've got rather than

1284
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: take new work on. So it's not I don't think

1285
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: like Toss's argument is that we stop having productive conversations.

1286
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: But it's simply because we're trying to get through our workload.

1287
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, before we go on a great big break.

1288
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think, yeah, but you've got to

1289
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: go on a break, so it's gonna happen anyway. But

1290
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: it's structural, Like Thomas, this is structural, isn't it. It

1291
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: is structural because you have to have a shutdown period

1292
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: at this point in the year. But also I would

1293
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: argue this is a good life and we shouldn't throw

1294
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: it away. What do you say?

1295
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think a lot of businesses probably get a

1296
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 24: bit caught up in what seems urgent rather than what's

1297
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 24: really important. So they're kind of wanting to tech off

1298
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 24: a bunch of stuff before Christmas, go flat out, and

1299
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 24: then don't come back as quick as they could. I

1300
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 24: just want it strange when we're talking about, you know,

1301
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 24: are people working enough over the summer for the good

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Speaker 24: of the economy. I don't work for the good of

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Speaker 24: the economy. I work for a wage, and so you know,

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Speaker 24: if businesses want to think they can squeeze more out

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Speaker 24: of January and more productivity, great, they can work with

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Speaker 24: their employees. But I think it's just really weird to

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Speaker 24: talk about work life balance and how that makes the

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Speaker 24: economy run, as if that's why we work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're onto something all right listening you're

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Speaker 2: going to go to Ikea sain Zone.

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Speaker 13: Oh look, it reminds me of when k Seafood is

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Speaker 13: so accused, although that turned out not be as bad

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Speaker 13: as predicted.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I've been to Ikea. It's funny. Ikea celebrated

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Speaker 6: their fiftieth anniversary in Sydney in July. Yeah, fiftieth anniversary,

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Speaker 6: and we're here going, oh the wonder is Ikea. Is't

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Speaker 6: this wonderful? You know it?

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Speaker 2: This is why we're excited.

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Speaker 1: We love that.

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Speaker 13: But it's like it isn't a bit of a hangover

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Speaker 13: as all those things we couldn't wait to McDonald's got

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Speaker 13: here and all that sort of stuff. We look over

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Speaker 13: seas at different things and they just get so excited

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Speaker 13: by it and becomes a sort of, you know, this

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Speaker 13: collective hysteria.

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Speaker 6: But I was pleased to see that, you know, the

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Speaker 6: forty minute wait to get off the motorway never eventuated.

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Speaker 2: So I think Ikea was as pleased about that. Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I think, look there says I was touched on something.

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Speaker 6: There was.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely a cringe over how like mad for it

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Speaker 2: we got. But it is also a good news economic

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Speaker 2: story because it shows we've got the kind of disposable

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Speaker 2: income that's worth chasing.

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Speaker 24: Well, you could go the cringe direction, but I'm going

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Speaker 24: on the conspiracy direction. I drove into work this morning

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Speaker 24: on the motorway and there are signs advertising Ikea that

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Speaker 24: are Auckland Transport signs. I open up the Herald's website

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Speaker 24: and suddenly there's a live ticker of updates. Is everyone

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Speaker 24: getting paid for all this free advertising? Where where can

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Speaker 24: I get this money? I'm on here on radio talking

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Speaker 24: about Ikea opening. It's a furniture store. Am I getting

1343
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Speaker 24: some you know, some kickbacks for this?

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Speaker 2: And here here you were complaining about making the economy

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Speaker 2: more productive and you're finding your own way to do it.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, thank you very much. And yeah, we're going

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Speaker 2: to send our invoices to Ikea, aren't we. Mark Sainsbury

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Speaker 2: broadcast to Thomas Scrimsher Maxim Institute. Eight away from.

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Speaker 1: Six it's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks. I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Five away from six. Listen, guys. I'm actually really worried

1353
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Speaker 2: about this guy who swallowed the Faberget egg pendant last week.

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: It's still it's still inside him. So when answers now started,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, ants, but you

1356
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Speaker 2: are now going to be checking in with the police

1357
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Speaker 2: on this every single day. Answers now started a daily

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Speaker 2: watch on this because what happened is last Friday, in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon, this chap wandered into the Auckland City Jewelers.

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Speaker 2: We don't know which one, it's a secret, and he

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Speaker 2: picked up the Faberget pendant. And sorry if I've told

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Speaker 2: you this before, because I am now fixated with the story,

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Speaker 2: but he swallowed it.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's worth thirty four thousand dollars, So you can't just

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Speaker 2: leave it there. You have to get this out. Like

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I would swift through

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Speaker 2: Pooh for thirty four thousand dollars, which is literally what

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Speaker 2: they're going to have to do. Anyway. The troubler is

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Speaker 2: it's still inside this guy with ants. Checked with the

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Speaker 2: police today and they were like, no, we haven't got

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Speaker 2: it out yet. And the guy's in jail and there is,

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Speaker 2: as I told you yesterday, there is an officer dedicated

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Speaker 2: to watching him around the clock. So one of two

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Speaker 2: things has happened. Either he hasn't pooed since Friday, which

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Speaker 2: is six days, or it's stuck inside him.

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Speaker 11: So I was keen to look into this, but apparently

1378
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Speaker 11: it's too personal to reveal the someone's bowel movements to

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Speaker 11: a member of the media, which I think is fair enough.

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Speaker 11: But they and they won't say there any health concerns.

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Speaker 11: But he did undergo a health examination when he was

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Speaker 11: brought in, So that says to me that he's probably pooping.

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Speaker 11: It just hasn't come out yet.

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Speaker 2: I mean, which is worse, not poping for six days

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Speaker 2: or not? Oh knowing you've got a piece.

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Speaker 11: You're really forcing some member of the police, some police

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Speaker 11: officer who's pained a lot of time to protect the

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Speaker 11: public to look for the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's not what they signed up for.

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Speaker 11: Emailing the police about that tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Is you absolutely are now? Answer? Is this ordinary?

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Speaker 11: This is ordinary by Alex Warren.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is ordinary by Alex Warren. This is the

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Speaker 2: top New Zealand song. I told you my Spotify unrapped.

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Speaker 2: This is New Zealand's Spotify unrapped. This is the top

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Speaker 2: song that we've played all year. Die with a Smile

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Speaker 2: by Lady Gagar and Bruno is second. The Days, which

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Speaker 2: is a notion remixed by Crystal. That's the third. Luthor

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Speaker 2: with Scissor by Kendrick Laman and Scissor that's number four

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Speaker 2: and Golden by Hunter Slash x whatever, whatever, Just start

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Speaker 2: writing properly that one you like?

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Speaker 11: Oh is that?

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Speaker 2: That's the screeching song?

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Speaker 6: Five?

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Speaker 2: Lord, what's wrong with us?

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Speaker 25: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: So there you go top audio book A Different Kind

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Speaker 2: of Power by just Linda Adan. Yay, there you go.

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Speaker 5: New Storks b.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing. The Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with Hander duple c and Ma's Motor Vehicle Insurance,

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Speaker 1: Your features in good Hands New Storg ZV.

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up in the next hour, Sam Dickey

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Speaker 2: on how Black Friday went over in the US, Jamie

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Speaker 2: McKay on how Fonterra went in Q one, and End

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Speaker 2: Brady out of the UK. Right now seven past six. Now,

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Speaker 2: with all the chat about IKEA, the Warehouse is going

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Speaker 2: all out reminding people to spend local instead. A Warehouse

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Speaker 2: is even opening a whole new pop up store in

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Speaker 2: Mount Eden with dedicated home where bargains to rival the

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Speaker 2: new kids on the block. Carolyn Young is the chief

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Speaker 2: executive of Retail New Zealand and with us.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Carolyn, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see this from the Warehouse don't you

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Speaker 2: think absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Look, you know one of the things we need for

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Speaker 4: the economy is we need people to come out and

1430
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Speaker 4: buy in store or online from businesses in New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: It's really critical that we generates economic growth. It generates

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Speaker 4: jobs and certainty around the whole economy. And there was

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Speaker 4: a bank governor, you know, when he was talking last

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Speaker 4: week about the changes to the official cash rate and

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Speaker 4: he was encouraging with deputy with their bank governor was

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Speaker 4: encouraging everyone to get out and spend. That's what we

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Speaker 4: actually need is people to actually now start spending out

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Speaker 4: in the economy and start getting everything going again. So

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Speaker 4: buying in New Zealand is really a critical part of

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Speaker 4: it for New Zealanders. If they're going to buy offshore,

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: the money just goes off shore. It doesn't help the

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 4: using economy. If you're buying from achine or a team.

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: What we know is that those businesses don't have to

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Speaker 4: comply to New Zealand standards. They don't comply to they

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01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: don't need to meet the fair trading standards, the Consumer

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 4: Guarantees Act, all the health and safety standards. So when

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Speaker 4: you're thinking about buying presents for your faun now and

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 4: your friends this Christmas really considered the safety of the

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Speaker 4: products that you're buying and the guarantees that you get

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Speaker 4: by buying in New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: It's really important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what's going on with the warehouse? Do

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01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: we put that down to them, you know, feeling a

1454
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: real existential threat from Ikea? Or is this actually the

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01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: spunky attitude an attitude that's been brought in by the

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Speaker 2: new chief executive.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think it's a bit of everything, right. I

1458
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 4: think it's that, you know, trying to encourage people to

1459
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 4: remind them that they're a New Zealand brand that have

1460
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Speaker 4: been here a long time. Don't forget about it. You've

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 4: got to try and do something different when a big

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 4: new player comes into the marketplace. But also we know

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Speaker 4: that people have been leaning into that tema machine space

1464
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Speaker 4: and that's a threat to the whole economy, not just

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Speaker 4: for the warehouse. So we're definitely supporting the message around

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Speaker 4: buying in New Zealand. And Look, you know they've also

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Speaker 4: been under pressure, right, We know that they've had some

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Speaker 4: challenging times and so the new chief executive is obviously

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Speaker 4: looking at ways in which they can address that and

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Speaker 4: to get out and be creative and you know, just

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Speaker 4: get some spark and energy back into the warehouse group.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that so obviously today at IQ was

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a physit. Certainly the numbers they

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Speaker 2: were expecting and being talked about didn't come to pass.

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: Now do you think that was a case of us

1476
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: overestimating the excitement or is it a case of people

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Speaker 2: kind of being logical and going, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: pandemonium on the first day, we'll delay ours it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think everybody thought it was going to

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Speaker 4: be absolute pandemonium because we know how busy it is

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Speaker 4: until we're park in December, and people were just thinking

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Speaker 4: I'll never get there, right, And they did have a

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01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 4: really structured opening and they did encourage everybody to come

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Speaker 4: by public transport. So, Pats, it's a little bit also

1485
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 4: of ike of marketing working well so that you know,

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Speaker 4: they managed the number of people coming. They didn't open

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Speaker 4: until eleven o'clock tomorrow. They'll be open at nine am,

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Speaker 4: and they are open through to nine pm every day,

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Speaker 4: so there is plenty of time after work. It is

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Speaker 4: a work day in the middle of the week, so

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Speaker 4: I imagine by time the weekend comes, they'll they'll be

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Speaker 4: seeing an uplift and numbers going through their store.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd imagine. So Carolyn, thank you as always, Carolyn Young,

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Speaker 2: Retail New Zealand CEO. We're lending. When I say we,

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Speaker 2: I mean Auckland, and I shouldn't really because you know,

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Speaker 2: not everybody is in Auckland. Auckland is lender. It's just

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Speaker 2: that I feel an attachment to this particular thing because

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Speaker 2: it sits above my house so frequently. Auckland is lending.

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Speaker 2: The police eagle how they copped it to christ Church

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Speaker 2: for a couple of months because of the youth crime

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Speaker 2: that's going on in Canterbury. Now, what's been going on

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Speaker 2: in Canterbury. I don't know if you've been across this,

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Speaker 2: but there's been a spike in ramraids and violent robberies

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Speaker 2: recently and that was including the attack on the dairy

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Speaker 2: owner in a power which led to the fourteen year old,

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Speaker 2: of all things, a fourteen year old being arrested today

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Speaker 2: is the start of a two month police crackdown basically

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Speaker 2: on it. So if the kids think that this is okay,

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Speaker 2: they're about to find out that it's not. As I

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Speaker 2: like to say to my young son, carry that on,

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Speaker 2: and you see what kind of trouble you're going to

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Speaker 2: get into. And that's what they're about to find out.

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Speaker 2: And so the chop is going down to help the

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01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: police out with it. I'm happy. I think this is

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01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: a good deal for both christ Church and myself because

1516
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: christ Church gets a piece of equipment that they need

1517
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: and I get a break from the piece of equipment

1518
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: that sits above my house. Heather read the faberget swallowing.

1519
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: The other day. I was discussing colonoscopies at my local

1520
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: gym and a woman told me that she'd been at

1521
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: a retreat in Balley where they did colon cleansing and

1522
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: there was a guy who was now an adult who'd

1523
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: swallowed a crayon as a boy when he was seven

1524
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: years old, and this crayon finally came out during the

1525
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: colon cleansing when he was an adult. Maybe they need

1526
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: to send the guy to the hold on clinic. Lord,

1527
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: imagine that maybe you've been carrying around a crayon for like,

1528
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how old the sky is twenty years

1529
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: as crayon just lodged in you. That can't be good

1530
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: for you. A. I mean imagine if he imagine if

1531
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 2: we don't get the faberget, how far are we prepared

1532
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: to go to get this fabage egg out? Do you think,

1533
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: like if it's stuck in there because he's too I mean,

1534
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: he's pretty keen to he's pretty keen to knick it,

1535
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: like he's swallowed it to nicck it. So he's not

1536
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: going to be taking Like you can line up with

1537
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: the prune juice and the ki we crush and all

1538
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: your things. You could be standing there with all the things.

1539
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: He's not gonna take it because he wants to hoard

1540
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: that little Faberget egg and then he wants to prune

1541
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: juice in the privacy of his own house and get

1542
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: it out, get it out. So how I'm told it's Partridges.

1543
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: Somebody texts me if there's not a secret Partridge is

1544
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: the only ones who have the Faberge egg? How far

1545
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: is Partridges prepared to go to get this egg out?

1546
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 6: Like?

1547
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: Are we going to will we surgically remove it? Will

1548
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: we magnetize it out? Are we going to do the

1549
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: old get one of those people who do the do

1550
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: the to the cows long glove? Come it in rent?

1551
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: How far are we prepared to go thirteen past six.

1552
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper Cell and Drive Full Show podcast

1553
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio empowered by newstalg Zeppi.

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Speaker 2: Now, most companies at this time have you put out

1555
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Speaker 2: a message to wish their customers a merry Christmas and

1556
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: a happy New Year. And there's one company though, that's

1557
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Speaker 2: prepared to take that end of year message to a

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Speaker 2: whole new level, and that's Carpet Mill Because this Christmas,

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Speaker 2: they're not just wishing you a happy Christmas, They're going

1560
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Speaker 2: to make it a happy Christmas. They're gifting two Lucky

1561
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Speaker 2: Kiwi's brand new flooring throughout the whole home. We're talking

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Speaker 2: up to ten thousand dollars worth of premium flooring you lounge,

1563
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Speaker 2: your bedrooms, your hallway, the works, and getting yourself in

1564
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Speaker 2: the running is just so unbelievably simple. Why would you

1565
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Speaker 2: not do this right? All you have to do is

1566
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Speaker 2: book yourself a free, no obligation measuring quote before December fifteen.

1567
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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if you want your new flooring in two

1568
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Speaker 2: months or two years. You're still in to win one

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Speaker 2: of two ten thousand dollar prizes towards your flooring draw.

1570
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: Winners will be announced before Christmas, so you bit of

1571
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 2: a double celebration, do you know what I mean? And

1572
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: Carpet Mill has been crafting quality carpets right here in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand for decades and they consume a trusted brands,

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Speaker 2: so no reason not to take a look. Take a look,

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Speaker 2: get yourself in that drawer, head to Carpetmill dot co

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Speaker 2: dot inmzeid approaching.

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Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen

1578
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with MAS Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your

1579
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: futures in good hands, used talks'd be listen.

1580
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: In New Zealand, cabin crew have called off that strike

1581
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: that they were going to do on Monday, but and

1582
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: they're going back to the negotiating table. But if they

1583
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: cannot sort this out, they will strike the week before

1584
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: Christmas on the eighteenth of December, So keep an eye

1585
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: on that if you're flying around that time. Seventeen past

1586
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: six And Jamie mckaye, Host of the Countries with me

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01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: I Jamie, Good day, Heather, Good times for Fonterra. Well

1588
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: sort of.

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Speaker 26: They came out this morning with their Q one Business update,

1590
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 26: but most of the thunder was stolen by the announcement

1591
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 26: last week that they effectively had to make because the

1592
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 26: market was get very titchy indeed about the milk price.

1593
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 26: So they came out last week, you might remember, and

1594
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 26: move that midpoint milk forecast price to nine dollars fifty

1595
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 26: from ten dollars. Ten dollars was unsustainable. So that thunder

1596
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 26: was stolen today, but they still had some other numbers

1597
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 26: out there. Group profit after tax two hundred and seventy

1598
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 26: eight million up fifteen million, the equivalent of seventeen cents

1599
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 26: per share forecast earnings. This is what the dividends paid off,

1600
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 26: forty five to sixty five cents per share, And of

1601
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 26: course they did confirm that milk price forecast at nine

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 26: to fifty. Interestingly for me, Heather, some of the commentary around,

1603
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 26: of course, they're selling the Mainland Group, their consumer brand's business,

1604
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 26: to Luck to Lease. Did I get that right, Heather?

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, I think I did.

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01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 26: I'm getting I'm getting better for four point two to

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 26: two billion. Remember about three point two billion will go

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 26: to the farmers by way of a tax free capital

1610
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 26: return of two dollars fifty per share. So I found

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 26: it interesting.

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01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 11: A couple of things.

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 26: Really, they're going to target to lift back to what

1614
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 26: their levels are this year by twenty twenty eight, even

1615
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 26: though they will have sold off the consumer brand's business,

1616
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 26: which is probably a lofty goal. They're going to invest

1617
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 26: one billion dollars over the next three to four years

1618
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 26: and projects right around the country at their plants, gearing

1619
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 26: them up so they can hopefully make more money for

1620
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 26: their farmer's shareholders. And the other one was around the

1621
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 26: timing of this tax free capital return. The farmers vote

1622
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 26: in February. Turkeys don't vote for an early Christmas. They're

1623
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:35,839
Speaker 26: going to unanimously support this vote. It's gotio approval already.

1624
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 26: So it looks like the farmers, if they're wondering when

1625
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 26: they're going to get their money in their hot little

1626
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 26: hands here, that we could be talking later in the

1627
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 26: first half of twenty twenty six maybe, And I'm just

1628
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 26: stabbing in the dark here April Tojoon somewhere around about there.

1629
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Speaker 1: Now.

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: The fact that the ets failed to clear, that the

1631
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 2: auction failed to clear a single carbon unit yesterday is

1632
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: obviously something that we're across. But what's your take on this?

1633
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean, do you send any money into it? Given

1634
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 2: that the thing is clearly falling apart.

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01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 26: Well, I call it the empress new clothes and have it. Honestly,

1636
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 26: I've been following this for about twenty years since the

1637
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 26: old fart tax protests, way back and way back when

1638
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 26: when they remember they drove what was his name, Shane

1639
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 26: Aadur in the local King Country politician MP for Taranaki,

1640
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 26: King Country drove as Massy Ferguson up the steps of Parliament.

1641
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 26: I don't pretend to understand it. Of course, the commodities

1642
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 26: brokers are blaming the government for causing all this. So

1643
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 26: not a single bidder even registered for yesterday's auction making.

1644
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 26: And I don't know whether you've covered this one. Stop

1645
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 26: me if you have. Making twenty twenty five the second

1646
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 26: calendar year in which not a brass razu or a

1647
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 26: pine penny was spent on carbon credits. It also happened

1648
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 26: in twenty twenty three. At the moment, apparently they don't

1649
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 26: need to buy off the government action where the minimum

1650
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 26: or the floor price is sixty eight dollars, because you

1651
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 26: can buy units elsewhere for as little as forty bucks

1652
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 26: from foresters and all that sort of stuff. So look,

1653
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 26: I honestly don't know where this goes, Heather. I don't

1654
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 26: pretend to understand it, and do you know what I reckon?

1655
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 26: The people who are running it don't understand it. That's

1656
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 26: my take on it, Heather mab you.

1657
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: So, Jamie, thanks very much. Appreciate it, mate, Jamie McKay,

1658
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: Hosts of the Country hither. I hate to break it

1659
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 2: to you, but the police Air Support Unit has three

1660
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: helicopters Lord, so no break from noise for you.

1661
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: Although what does that.

1662
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: Tell you about crime in Auckland. A We've got three

1663
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 2: choppers and they're all in Auckland. I mean, yeah, anyway,

1664
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: excuse me. Ruchen Revender's out out for one hundred and

1665
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: seventy six, so that's broken a bit of a hoodoo

1666
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: for him. Four hundred and ten. Oh what are we?

1667
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: Four hundred and fourteen for four hour? Embracewell is in

1668
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: for Ruchan Revender. It's six twenty two.

1669
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: Whether it's Macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

1670
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplessil and Mass Motor

1671
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance. Your future is in good hands. News Talks

1672
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: that be.

1673
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: The what's happening to New Zealand Post a lot of

1674
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 2: my Black Friday items are delayed. They've changed the delivery

1675
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: date twice. Now, Ben, I cannot answer that question for

1676
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: you because I'll tell you honestly, mine came that fast.

1677
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: That's how fast I came. I ought actually, can I

1678
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: We'll talk about Australian Post in a minute. You know,

1679
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: I told you this is really excited. I got the

1680
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: dice and air wrap on the Black Friday sale that

1681
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: arrived two days ago, so that's not a bad turnaround.

1682
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: I bought it on Friday, arrived on Tuesday. Then I

1683
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: bought some other stuff they arrived earlier in the week.

1684
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: I think it was a blanket or some boring thing

1685
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: like that. But hey, Australia Posts. Now if you want

1686
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: to do you want to see somebody blow it out

1687
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: of the water as Australia Post. I ordered a dress

1688
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: last week for the function that I'm going to tonight,

1689
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 2: and it arrived. I text my friend because my friend

1690
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: sent it. My friends are very cool. She's very cool,

1691
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: and she's like, that's the way you need to buy

1692
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: your dress buff from. So I was like, okay, bought it,

1693
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: like you know, she did. The size cup, we got

1694
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: the measuring tape out in the office, actually measured around

1695
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: the bust, measured around the waist, measured around the hips,

1696
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: did all the things disappointing numbers, pump them in, bought

1697
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: the dress. I said to her, is it gonna how

1698
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: long is it going to take to her? Those are

1699
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: going to arrive on time? She's like, mate, it's within

1700
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: the week. And it was within was it two three

1701
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: working days? It was pretty pretty, pretty awesome. So yeah,

1702
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 2: I can't I can't explain it. But you know what

1703
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: Black Friday sales something we all got into. Sam Dickie's

1704
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: checked out the numbers over in the US and he's

1705
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 2: going to talk us through it in a minute when

1706
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: he's with us, just after half pass, just on the

1707
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: different on something, going back to something. This is the

1708
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: cricket Heather set a text and they're onto something here. Heather,

1709
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: what's the common denominator between Netbull cricket, rugby and hockey.

1710
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: It's the Union. Keep an eye on this because the

1711
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: union is causing all kinds of trouble and I think

1712
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 2: we'll have it. We'll have to have a bit more

1713
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: of a chat about it actually tomorrow, I think on

1714
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: the sports tuttle. So I've got a theory, and it

1715
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: comes back to what the pay is being played? Being

1716
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: paid is too much? Six twenty six.

1717
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business, my father.

1718
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: If you haven't caught up on it already, it's the

1719
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: Spotify Rap Day. I told you about it, right, This

1720
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: is the day where the music extreme tells you what

1721
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 2: you've listened to most all year round. And the kids

1722
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 2: are loving it, and I'm loving it and you're loving it,

1723
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: and you know who else loves it? Christopher Luxon the

1724
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 2: Prime Minister. He's revealed his top artists of the year,

1725
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: only twelve years old.

1726
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: Food.

1727
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 15: I got all girls get it through here.

1728
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: Oasis and is that right?

1729
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 6: They would be that right?

1730
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1731
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. Could you hear that? I couldn't hear that.

1732
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: Never mind, Oh way, something something something something anyway. Spotify

1733
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 2: gave you an age. As I told you earlier. Luxon

1734
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: was pretty chaffed because his age apparently was twenty seven

1735
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: and he listened to thirty seven, six hundred and eighty

1736
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: four minutes of music this year. That's sixty six hundred

1737
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: and twenty eight hours twenty six straight days, which is

1738
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: a lot of music. Because I only listened to twenty

1739
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: it's one hundred minutes of music a day. The song

1740
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: that's playing right now, this is his number one most

1741
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: listened to song a year. Have a listen.

1742
01:20:52,720 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 22: Samdi's next, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the

1743
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 22: Business Hour with Head, the duplicy Allen and Mass motor

1744
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 22: vehicle insurance, your futures.

1745
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 1: In good hands, used talks.

1746
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 14: I'd be.

1747
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: Heather based on those numbers. Lux and definitely shares his

1748
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: Spotify account. I'd say so because you think about this

1749
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 2: one hundred days, like, think about it, He's listened to

1750
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 2: one hundred minutes of music a day, right, you listen

1751
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: to one hundred minutes of what's that? That's an hour,

1752
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: that's more than an hour and a half, that's an

1753
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: hour forty Where do you get the time to listen

1754
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: to that kind of music?

1755
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 14: Right?

1756
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 10: That?

1757
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: That that that period of my English is just failing

1758
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: me right now now, I'm got that kind of time.

1759
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,440
Speaker 2: Do you have that kind of time? The only explanation

1760
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: for is two explanations, three explanations. Number one, he works

1761
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: out and listens to music, which I think we know

1762
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: is not happening. Number two, he works and listens to music,

1763
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: which is possible because you can put it on in

1764
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 2: the background and just you know, do your typing. Well,

1765
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 2: that's okay, some people work like that. Number three, his

1766
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: wife is on his account and totally screwing his algorithm,

1767
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: which is also possible. Twenty four away from seven, Sam

1768
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: Dickey Fisher Funds is with us. Sam.

1769
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: Hello, how's it going.

1770
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. So the Black Friday at

1771
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: the Cyber Monday sales are over. What does it mean

1772
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 2: for the health of the consumer in the US? What

1773
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: are you seeing?

1774
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 25: Yes, shoppers were in a pre fine fetal, pretty bullish, moved,

1775
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 25: and they defied fairly gloomy expectations heading into it. So

1776
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 25: remember we've been talking about that sort of two speed

1777
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 25: consumer whereby the lowering consumers under real pressure and there

1778
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 25: was a concern that would bleed upwards into the middle

1779
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 25: and high end consumer.

1780
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: That didn't happen.

1781
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 25: So spending on Black Friday was up nine percent on

1782
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 25: the previous year, and spinning on Monday, astonishing they've got

1783
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 25: all these ridiculous names for these retail days, was up

1784
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 25: seven percent on the previous year. And so for context,

1785
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 25: that compares to kind of total US retail sales that

1786
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 25: are running at about four percent, so an actual acceleration there.

1787
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 2: Heither, what are you seeing here in trends like online

1788
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: versus offline and the rise of agentic shoppers and all

1789
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.

1790
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, some pretty interesting stuff there.

1791
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 25: So the headline is about twenty five percent of sales

1792
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 25: are online, and that's up from the normal trend of

1793
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 25: about twenty percent of e commerce penetration. But of those

1794
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 25: online sales, mobile, for the first time accounted for more

1795
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 25: than fifty percent of sales. So people are no longer

1796
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 25: impulse buying at their desks. They're impulse buying on their

1797
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 25: phones where they're waiting for coffee, and most interestingly, agentic shoppers.

1798
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 25: So in plain English, that basically means you tell your

1799
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 25: chosen AI assistance, say Meta AI and WhatsApp find me

1800
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 25: the best best rated noise canceling coffee maker under two

1801
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 25: hundred dollars can be delivered before Monday. So agentic shoppers

1802
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 25: began twenty percent of all purchases, up from basically nothing

1803
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 25: last year. So these agents are running around buying for us.

1804
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Fascinating A I need to make more use of that,

1805
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 2: all right, does it? What does this all mean for investors?

1806
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 25: I think the main thing is this concern we've been

1807
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 25: talking about a little bit that the really weak low

1808
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 25: end consumer was going to bleed into the middle and

1809
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 25: high end consumer has not happened, so that that consumer

1810
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 25: was put on the back burner for now. So that

1811
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 25: bodes well for a fairly strong consumer into Christmas. And

1812
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 25: remember the consumers seventy percent of USGP, so that's pretty key.

1813
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting stuff, Sam, thank you as always appreciate it.

1814
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: Sam Dickey Fisher Funds twenty two away from seven.

1815
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: Ever do for see Ellen.

1816
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what is interesting over in the US

1817
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: is real estate agents in Florida reckon that they're seeing

1818
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 2: the signs of the Mam Damie effect. Now what this is.

1819
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 2: We were expecting this, this has been predicted, is almost

1820
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: certainly going to happen, and they reckon they're seeing this

1821
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: is when wealthy New Yorkers start to leave New York

1822
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 2: because the new mayor Zora and Mam Dammy you know,

1823
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: plan has been very clear about the fact that he

1824
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: plans to ping them with all kinds of increased taxes. Now,

1825
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 2: the Florida real estate agents reckon they're already seeing this.

1826
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: They say that they're seeing an exponential rise in inquiries

1827
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: and sales. The marketing agent for the Ritz Carlton Residences,

1828
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: which is an upcoming project of about thirty beach house

1829
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 2: condos with you know, enormous price tags like ten million

1830
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: dollars to one hundred and twenty five million dollars reckons

1831
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: it has logged, and that's American dollars, by the way,

1832
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: reckons it's logged. And one hundred and sixty six percent

1833
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: spike in interest from prospective buyers in New York from

1834
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: this time last year. And the other high end reel

1835
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,480
Speaker 2: to say, they're saying exactly the same thing, entirely predictable.

1836
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Now a day.

1837
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: It's been a day of releasing the risk the lists,

1838
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 2: and the other list that's come out today is the

1839
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: Google top searchers that we have conducted throughout the year.

1840
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: Our top search it surprised me was Charlie Kirk. Charlie

1841
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: Kirk being the America guy who was shot in the

1842
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: neck earlier this year. Now, I reckon that that's partly

1843
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: a testament to how little we actually knew about him

1844
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: before he was shot, because it was quite big news

1845
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: when he was shot, because I mean, he's something of

1846
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: a cultural moment in and of himself. But if you're

1847
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 2: anything like me, you went ho with Charlie Kirk, what

1848
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: the hell? What's going on? Like untapped part of American

1849
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: culture that I really hadn't quite appreciated. So anyway, that'll

1850
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: probably that'll probably explain some of that. Second overall search,

1851
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: was COPD treatment common?

1852
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: You know?

1853
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: Basically, I'm foresema, isn't it? You can't explain that osteoporosis treatment.

1854
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: I think this is an indication of the fact that

1855
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: we have an aging population, lots of people or maybe

1856
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: just a lot of young, anxious people who were going, ah,

1857
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: my bone hurt. A master of osteoporosis could be either

1858
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: or Tom Phillips. Now I'm gonna come back to this, okay,

1859
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 2: so park that or come back to it. The top

1860
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: searched kiwis Joseph Parker Benjamin Doyle A Benjamin Doyle for

1861
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 2: obvious reasons, because that was a bizarre moment for us,

1862
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: Lord Liam Laws and blah blah blah. Coming in at

1863
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: number eight is Brook van Velden, and then coming in

1864
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: at number nine is Stuart Nash. And I think that

1865
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: both of those parliamentarians should be really proud that they've

1866
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: made that list. This says something about the impact that

1867
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 2: they're having on New Zealand. I suppose top two deaths

1868
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, then Tom Phillips. Coming back to Tom Phillips here.

1869
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 2: The reason Tom Phillips will be so widely searched is

1870
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: because everybody was searching to see if the rumor was

1871
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 2: true that they had heard. Yes, probably is top people

1872
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 2: we searched is Bell Gibson now Bell Gibson, and Bell

1873
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 2: Gibson is the Australian bird who the Netflix documentary is

1874
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 2: made about faked to cancer, isn't it?

1875
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 11: Oh you're you're away ahead of me on this one.

1876
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 11: I'd never heard. Now I was about to look. I

1877
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 11: was about to say, oh, yeah, Laura's giving me the

1878
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 11: thumbs up, so produce Lauris is absolutely it was. Are

1879
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 11: you're going to go, I'm just going to go google

1880
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 11: her now and add to those stats.

1881
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: Just so that it pops up in twenty twenty six again,

1882
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 2: I think.

1883
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 11: I had to search Charlie Kirk when I was in Japan,

1884
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 11: so I added to their stats over there.

1885
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 6: There you go.

1886
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be like, wow, there was a weird spike

1887
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: in Japan that week, local moments. What's wrong with us?

1888
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. Wind warning, rainfall warning, tsunami warning, thunderstorm warning, cyclone,

1889
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: TAM treaty principles, bill submission, Metallica auckland a Metallica tongurero fire,

1890
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: measles sale GP. So we're interested in events, David Seymour

1891
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: and things that can kill us global moments cyclone al

1892
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: for like the whole bunch of stuff from none of

1893
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: us are about.

1894
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 11: You're making like a new version if we didn't start

1895
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 11: the fire there. I'm quite enjoyment.

1896
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the The twenty twenty six rework K

1897
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: Pop Demon Hunters came in at number seven. I also

1898
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: googled that. I'm not gonna lie. I googled it because

1899
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 2: I was like, once again, like Charlie Kirk, what the

1900
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 2: hell is going on here? Also six seven came in

1901
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 2: at number nine, and that definitely is a moment of

1902
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on here? We googled somehow

1903
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: to stuff, how to make butter, I mean that's probably

1904
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: an indication of the I mean that was the time,

1905
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: wasn't it when butter was so expensive and stillers? How

1906
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: to invest money and shares, how to make buttermilk. Number four,

1907
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,839
Speaker 2: How to get rid of bug? They had bedbugs, New Zealand.

1908
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 2: What's going on if enough of us have bedbugs that

1909
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: it is coming up in the Google search. It's starting

1910
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: to make me feel a little bit worried. Definitions I

1911
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: can honestly say, of the top ten definitions, I only

1912
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: know the definition to one plantier tacki plarens loris hubris.

1913
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you know that one atria zity uro boris or

1914
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: go see tan. It's like it's another language. Internet trends.

1915
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: What is the six seven trend? Popped up again? Of course,

1916
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: and then a whole bunch of sports events.

1917
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 11: Our sincere apologies if you're driving with kids in the

1918
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 11: car at the moment and they've just been going nuts

1919
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 11: ever since we said six seven. There, I've just set

1920
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 11: them off again.

1921
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 6: Sorry?

1922
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: Do they have to shout it out every time you?

1923
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 14: Oh?

1924
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 11: They love it? They love it. Yep, they go for

1925
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 11: the our nuts whenever the six seven comes out.

1926
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he just did it too multiple times on purpose.

1927
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: Sports events Club World Cup India versus or England Auckland

1928
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: FC comes in at number three, well done, and then

1929
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: at number ten New Zealand versus West Indies and the

1930
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 2: reason we're googling that was because we're all trying to

1931
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: figure out why the West West Indies sucked so much. Indo,

1932
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: Brady is with us next sixteen away from seven.

1933
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1934
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Dupasy Allen and Ma's Motor

1935
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance. Your future is in good hands. News Talk

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Speaker 1: z'd be here.

1937
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Speaker 2: The brook was on that most most googled list because

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Speaker 2: she's got the girl next door. Look, I see what

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Speaker 2: you're doing there. You're going Google images, aren't you? Thirteen

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Speaker 2: away from seven into Brady. UK correspondent Alo Ender.

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Speaker 5: Hello, have her great to speak to you again.

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Speaker 2: Charles was very funny with the German, wasn't he?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I thought this was a brilliant speech. So the President

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Speaker 5: of Germany is here, Frank Walter Steinmeier.

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Speaker 1: He's here on a.

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Speaker 5: Three day state visit with his wife Elka, a former judge,

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Speaker 5: and Charles holted a banquet for them in Windsor last night,

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Speaker 5: and he flicked between English and German very confidently and

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Speaker 5: pointed out that there is now a brilliant working relationship

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Speaker 5: between Germany and the UK and long may it continue.

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Speaker 5: And then Steinmeier in his speech just pointed out just

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Speaker 5: how difficult things got in the years after brigsit and

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Speaker 5: how much stronger the ties are now. So three day

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Speaker 5: state visit, the state banquet is done in Windsor. Tomorrow

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Speaker 5: they will go to Coventry City to look at the

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Speaker 5: ruins of the cathedral bomb by the Luftwaffe in nineteen

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Speaker 5: forty and has not been touched since, so poignant touch

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Speaker 5: to it as well. But the overriding two themes from

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Speaker 5: this state visit is the brilliant relationship between Berlin and

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Speaker 5: London now and strength and solidarity for Ukraine from these

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Speaker 5: two countries.

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Speaker 2: So what do you make of the fact that Andrew's

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Speaker 2: staying in Royal Lodge for longer? How's that going to

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Speaker 2: go down with Panters?

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Speaker 5: It's entirely predictable because of the entitled nature and arrogance

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Speaker 5: of the man. And he can't read the room. Look,

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Speaker 5: I think most people are struggling to pay their own

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Speaker 5: bills this Christmas, and people who have mortgages and rent

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Speaker 5: and pay their way in life, as opposed to someone

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Speaker 5: who's never paid a penny for anything ever.

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Speaker 1: His toast.

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Speaker 5: I mean he just needs to read the room and

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Speaker 5: not just get out of Royal Lodge. I think he

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Speaker 5: needs to get out of the UK and just for

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Speaker 5: his own good start afresh. Somewhere there are whispers about

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Speaker 5: Bahrain or somewhere else in the Middle East, but what

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Speaker 5: we're hearing today and Charles's people dispute this, but the

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Speaker 5: agreement was that he would have twelve months to leave

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Speaker 5: Royal Lodge. I think people would be very upset if

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Speaker 5: we're looking at Christmas twenty twenty six and Andrews still

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Speaker 5: in that mansion.

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Speaker 2: I suspect you might be right on that one. Now

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Speaker 2: do you think that the Russian money that's been seized

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Speaker 2: will be helped to rebuild Ukraine in the end.

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Speaker 5: So this is an awful lot of money that is

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Speaker 5: sitting in various different financial institutions in Belgium. It's about

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Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty billion en z dollars, crazy amount

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Speaker 5: of cash. It is originally of Russian origin, and the

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Speaker 5: European Union sees it within weeks of the invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 5: So what's happening now is Ursulav Underlyon has made it clear.

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Speaker 5: So she's the boss of the European Union. She has

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Speaker 5: made it clear that that amount of money will fund

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Speaker 5: Ukraine for the next two years, keep the country alive,

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Speaker 5: keep people afloat, keep them going, and she's made it

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Speaker 5: clear she will take that money and use it for Ukraine. Now,

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Speaker 5: the problem is the Belgians are very, very worried. Two things.

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Speaker 5: They fear being made liable for that amount of money

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Speaker 5: if the Russians legally come after Belgium. And then secondly

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Speaker 5: they're worried about if they hand the money over with

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Speaker 5: Putin then start hybrid war or carrying out nasty little

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Speaker 5: attacks on Belgian soil or Belgian citizens or anyone he

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Speaker 5: wants to take out in Belgium. So it's up for discussion.

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Speaker 5: But Ursulav Underlyon has made it clear one hundred and

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Speaker 5: sixty billion big ones sitting in Belgium, we can make

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Speaker 5: good use of that for the people of Ukraine and

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Speaker 5: hurt the Russians at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Inda, thanks as always, really appreciate your time. That

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you next week. This is into Brady,

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Speaker 2: UK correspondent. You know the Guardian, the UK Guardian as

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Speaker 2: a bit of the Wokester paper, right, so you'd expect

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Speaker 2: that the that they would like. I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm maybe I'm wrong here, but I would have expected

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Speaker 2: that the Guardian would generally be you know, kind to people,

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Speaker 2: and would also be sort of, you know, more likely

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Speaker 2: to default in a fight between Meghan and Harry and

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Speaker 2: the Royals, you know, they would defer to Meghan and

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Speaker 2: Harry because Meghan and Harry are the Wokesters, right. This

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Speaker 2: is The Guardian's review of Meghan's new show With Love.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to read you the start because I

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Speaker 2: think you get everything here With Love Meghan Holiday Celebration review,

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Speaker 2: Take Anti nausea pills. She's back. She literally skipped through

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Speaker 2: a Christmas tree farm, serves food that looks like animal droppings,

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Speaker 2: and cooks a meal that Prince Harry hates. Assume the

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Speaker 2: crash position before watching, so you decide whether you want

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Speaker 2: to watch this or not. Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 11: Heather, Just quickly. We've had an alternative hypothesis from producer

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Speaker 11: Laura about why Van Velden was googled so much. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 11: couldn't have something to do with a four letter word

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Speaker 11: that she said in Parliament at one point this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe that, But then why was Stuart Nash

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Speaker 2: googled so much.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. And then there was a certain writer,

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Speaker 11: a generalist to use that word as well, Mane.

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Speaker 2: And Andrea who actually started the whole thing. She wasn't googled.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, you're right, and never mind it's against it.

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Speaker 2: There's I think must be a confluence of things. What

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Speaker 2: I think has happened is that Brooker's good looking like Stewart.

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Speaker 2: She has used the bad word like Andrea. But she's

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Speaker 2: the only one who combines both good looking and the

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Speaker 2: bad word.

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Speaker 11: And that's why you were pep, Stuart Nash.

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Speaker 2: Yep, there you go, there you go. You got to

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Speaker 2: use the sea word, Stewart Nash. Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Too per se allan Drive full show

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Speaker 2: I don't think Stuart Nash would have any trouble using

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Speaker 2: the sea word. But what was the word that he used? Dance?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 11: Was it a word he used or.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I think Todd McLay got an

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Speaker 2: explete of laden text. But I think the worst that

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Speaker 2: he ever came the worst that he came out.

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Speaker 11: With was was the F bomb, right, okay, so the

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Speaker 11: second worst one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the other worse it's not enough. Now you

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Speaker 2: want to get up to.

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Speaker 11: Snow wars and what makes a woman?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, actually that was probably arguably worse. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's right up there anyway. Can I just suggest that

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Speaker 2: maybe doctor ceo he Ashley Park from Victoria University of

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Speaker 2: Wellington just needs to chill out a little bit. So

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Speaker 2: old mate works at the School of History, Philosophy, Political

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Speaker 2: Science and International Relations. And she's hit the threads right,

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Speaker 2: which is like, it's like the it's the alternative to Twitter.

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Speaker 2: It was there for a bit they were supposed to

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Speaker 2: take off with anyway, I didn't it isn't this a nonsense?

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Speaker 2: But she's on there with her mates and she took

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Speaker 2: a screen grab of a student's email to her and

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Speaker 2: the email started with hey ce or he and so

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Speaker 2: see he pops it up on the threads and she

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Speaker 2: writes and it's els like she's written this in Korean

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Speaker 2: based on the news reporting of it. She's written, I

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Speaker 2: really hate emails that start with hay. And she goes

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Speaker 2: on to say New Zealand culture is a little bit

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Speaker 2: more relaxed than you know, many other cultures and that's true,

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Speaker 2: and she doesn't mind being called by her first name,

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Speaker 2: which I'm glad because that's all we're going to call

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Speaker 2: you by mate. We're not going to call you doctor Parker.

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Speaker 2: We it's New Zealand. But then she says she just

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Speaker 2: cannot abide starting an email with hay. I told them

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Speaker 2: to write more formally next time, and that I don't

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Speaker 2: reply to emails to start with hay. Yeah, just unnecessary

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Speaker 2: level of anxiety about that word. I think, yeah, it's fine,

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Speaker 2: it's okay. Ants the late hey ants, yep, yeah, hey ans,

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Speaker 2: what what have you got?

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Speaker 11: A pat by Rose and Bruno Mars the number one

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Speaker 11: New Zealand song on Spotify this year, according to Spotify.

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Speaker 2: Rap I don't think you got the joke? Did you answer?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: I know Laura will explain to you later. Don't worry

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Speaker 2: if somebody will have to obviously. Yeah, now listen ants

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Speaker 2: explains it? Hey, ants, explain something to me really quickly.

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Speaker 2: So this is the top New Zealand song. But is

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Speaker 2: this a New Zealand song?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? So I's got Bruno Mars the other one. Rose.

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Speaker 11: She was born in New Zealand. She moved to Australia

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Speaker 11: when she was young, started doing her singing there, was

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Speaker 11: picked by a K pop group called Black Pink, who really,

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Speaker 11: oh well, the company that runs Blackpink. So she went

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Speaker 11: over to Korea for her music career. So she's done

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Speaker 11: all her music stuff in Australia and Korea.

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Speaker 2: But she is a key where she was born here

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Speaker 2: long Bow. But you know what they take it.

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Speaker 11: It was good enough for Dragan, good enough for her,

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Speaker 11: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's true. Hey, enjoy your evening, See you

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live

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