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Speaker 6: Hello. A week off for the black Cats, just in
Speaker 6: time for Tim Suley's ragin as Black Cats skipper to
Speaker 6: come to an abrupt end. Little change to the team
Speaker 6: hitting for India, the White Ferns get back to winning
Speaker 6: form and a financial boost for IPL contracted players. They'll
Speaker 6: be looking forward to that. Channa's must be tough in
Speaker 6: the Indian Premier League. And Orderson's joining us this morning
Speaker 6: and he said he'd only a peer if we incorporated
Speaker 6: the no reverse sweep policy. Well, no reverse weeps here orders,
Speaker 6: so we're true. We world look.
Speaker 4: On police to hear it. Brian, It's it's really quite
Speaker 4: I guess reassuring.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because there's there's probably too many reverse sweeps out
Speaker 7: there these days. But maybe I'm being too conservative. Maybe
Speaker 7: I need to change my way of thinking. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I'll just I'll just go I'll just go for a
Speaker 7: clasic clasic cat shot instead.
Speaker 6: We're traditionalists at heart, really, aren't we. It's a lucrative
Speaker 6: form of runs, quite clearly, but it's also costly. Tom
Speaker 6: Blundell three times in the lan contests, and you know
Speaker 6: it's a matter of judgment when you're played, I guess, isn't.
Speaker 7: It It is indeed, Yeah, yeah, I mean these guys
Speaker 7: are practicing it all the time, so whereas I haven't
Speaker 7: really practiced at all, I have to say maybe I should.
Speaker 6: Well, we've been searching high lay for Jeremy Coney. He's
Speaker 6: on his way. He'll be with us in just a moment.
Speaker 6: But after two embarrassing losses, after two embarrassing losses in
Speaker 6: Sri Lanka, Tim Sowley fell on his sword, a decision
Speaker 6: that came as little surprise.
Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously a tough one, but like I've done for
Speaker 8: the last last seventeen years, is the best interest of
Speaker 8: the team, a team that I keep deeply about, so yeah,
Speaker 8: moving forward, it's it's the best decision for the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, we did discussions, was Gary, like we do at
Speaker 8: every series, and it was by decision to to move
Speaker 8: aside and it's now Tim's time to I guess, keep
Speaker 8: moving this team forward and got sixteen menses to look
Speaker 8: forward to and the anamos side about that as far
Speaker 8: as I'm concerned, And yeah, I love Test cricket. It's
Speaker 8: a game I care deeply about and I love playing
Speaker 8: so so yeah, it'll be nice to be part of
Speaker 8: those sixtiesh metches moving forward orders.
Speaker 6: He had to do it. Really, the team was not
Speaker 6: making any progress and the quality of the cricket was
Speaker 6: not the greatest. From listening to Zealand side, because there's
Speaker 6: some very good cricketers in that team.
Speaker 4: Look, I think they'll be disappointed with that tour of
Speaker 4: Sri Lanka. Brian.
Speaker 7: I think that if you're looking in the context of
Speaker 7: the World Test Championship, those were matches at least one
Speaker 7: of them that would have needed to have been one
Speaker 7: to at least have pushed New Zealand up into that
Speaker 7: top bracket if you like, with of course India and
Speaker 7: Australia out in front of the other nationril Anka, I
Speaker 7: think moving into that third spot. So it's an opportunity miss.
Speaker 7: I mean, two tests in Gaul I mean, really, they
Speaker 7: probably could have used the toss there at one stage
Speaker 7: would have been quite handy, but they've had to play
Speaker 7: to the conditions and have not done so to their
Speaker 7: utmost ability, I suppose.
Speaker 4: And I think Tim he's made the right call.
Speaker 7: Mean, whether he could be selected as one of the
Speaker 7: first names on the sheet in that series is debatable
Speaker 7: with Matt Henry there as well.
Speaker 4: And given the summer that Matt Henry had, I think,
Speaker 4: what with.
Speaker 7: Twenty three wickets at sixteen point nine five, I oh,
Speaker 7: that doesn't necessarily translate to subcontinental cans with you've got
Speaker 7: a bowler of orack standard as well who's really starting
Speaker 7: to come into his pomp. It put pressure onto him,
Speaker 7: but he's he's done, you know, the noble thing really
Speaker 7: and then at least from hearing him talk about it,
Speaker 7: et cetera, and why he's made the call, and now
Speaker 7: really he just comes down to Tom Latham and Gary
Speaker 7: stud as to whether he is selected in the team
Speaker 7: on the sub continent from here on in with the
Speaker 7: three Tests against India and of course onwards for the
Speaker 7: three Tests against England at home.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a it's a bit of a changing
Speaker 4: of the guard.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 6: Tom Latham's got the job, but who else could could
Speaker 6: have been that? There's there's not too many options there
Speaker 6: really at the moment, is there?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: I think Tom Latham's logical choice. You've got at less
Speaker 7: you go back to the former captain and the former
Speaker 7: came Williamson, which I don't think they're probably going to
Speaker 7: be going to do. Williamson looks like he's comfortable at
Speaker 7: the moment and looking to focus on his batting, et cetera.
Speaker 3: As he moves on.
Speaker 7: What is he thirty four? Now came Williamson. Latham has
Speaker 7: a few years back. I mean, what is he?
Speaker 6: He is?
Speaker 7: What thirty two? So he's got a few years in charge.
Speaker 7: And the seam I do hope that, you know, not
Speaker 7: too conservative, and the Latham Stead combination, I hope that
Speaker 7: they I guess, yeah, look further afield with you know,
Speaker 7: perhaps asking you know, bringing Williamson even into that senior
Speaker 7: group as you know, for his advice is the most successful.
Speaker 7: He'syaland Test captain and just I guess, trying to take
Speaker 7: it to the next level, trying to keep them in
Speaker 7: the Test Championship with these matches against India and England,
Speaker 7: which are fairly formidable task at the moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, news flash, Orders, Jeremy Coney stood on his stumps
Speaker 6: trying to play a reverse sweep, but he's been allowed
Speaker 6: to return. Very good to have you with us, mate.
Speaker 6: We've just been talking about the choice of captain and
Speaker 6: Orders saw that there was no real option available, and
Speaker 6: I guess you probably agreed to some extent there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, high lads, simer bit late.
Speaker 9: I think a captain, first of all, must be able
Speaker 9: to hold his place in the team by dint of
Speaker 9: his performance.
Speaker 3: He's in all ways.
Speaker 9: And that's why it was a little bit odd when
Speaker 9: the coach and selector kind of said, well, he's captain,
Speaker 9: but he won't be playing all the matches. It kind
Speaker 9: of didn't sound quite right to me. Look, I didn't
Speaker 9: get the feeling he left the captaincy because of his
Speaker 9: captaincy decision making.
Speaker 3: Did you guys.
Speaker 9: Feel the same way. It wasn't anything to do with
Speaker 9: the way he was captaining the.
Speaker 7: Side, No, not at all. I thought it was more
Speaker 7: about the position of the team, Like say, Jimmy, you.
Speaker 9: Know, he might have got some ends wrong for bowlers
Speaker 9: and fielders needed adjustment and so on.
Speaker 3: But every captain's captain's guilty of that.
Speaker 9: And you know that's a case of discussing with bowlers,
Speaker 9: isn't it, either at the time or off the field.
Speaker 9: And even Tom Lathon himself said he'd have done much
Speaker 9: the same in Sri Lanka as Saudi did. So you
Speaker 9: know we're unlikely to see big changes, but you know
Speaker 9: it was Saudi's performance is a bowler on the side
Speaker 9: that has brought his place into question. When he was
Speaker 9: in his prime, he was bowling between.
Speaker 3: One hundred and thirty and one hundred.
Speaker 9: And thirty five, he swung the ball, he got wickets,
Speaker 9: whether it was LB or bold or court keeper caught slip,
Speaker 9: and he got them because he was tall and he
Speaker 9: was accurate, and the batsman couldn't get the bat out
Speaker 9: of the wage because at one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 9: it's quick enough to prevent the batsman sensing the danger
Speaker 9: and getting and pulling the bat and withdrawing it. But
Speaker 9: now while the swing is still there, while the bull's knew,
Speaker 9: it's more from the arm now because he is slower,
Speaker 9: he's one hundred and twenty six to one hundred and
Speaker 9: twenty eight, occasionally one hundred and thirty I noticed at Trilankam,
Speaker 9: but not often. So batsmen see the danger in the
Speaker 9: flight a little bit earlier and they've got time to
Speaker 9: withdraw that bat and so the keeper in the slip
Speaker 9: don't become involved as much. And then as a seemer,
Speaker 9: if he nips it back into the batsman, the batsman
Speaker 9: now you know he gets something on it. You know,
Speaker 9: he gets an inside edge or something like that and
Speaker 9: onto the pad. And so his lbw's have become less
Speaker 9: regular as well. I mean, SOUDI like any good bowlder.
Speaker 9: He's developed using the crease and confusing batsman that way,
Speaker 9: and he's tried the reverse swing. He's not quite the
Speaker 9: pace or the slingy action to really get that going.
Speaker 3: But the main issue is the lack of pace.
Speaker 9: Olders, I don't know what you think about that, but
Speaker 9: losing a weaverit of accuracy because of it. Once you
Speaker 9: lose your pace, you've got to be even more accurate
Speaker 9: and you lose a wee bit of bounce. So he's
Speaker 9: having trouble getting wickets and that's the issue. So and
Speaker 9: please everybody don't compare him to Anderson. I've heard people
Speaker 9: say that by Jimmy Bold until he was fifty five.
Speaker 9: You know, Anderson played no T twenties, no ODIs. He
Speaker 9: was paid enough to play tests only for England, so
Speaker 9: he had plenty of rest. He also had at his
Speaker 9: disposal of phalanx of support from exercise advisors to build
Speaker 9: speed and endurance and physiologists and dietitians, physiotherapists. I don't
Speaker 9: know whatever they are nowadays lie on the couch, Tim,
Speaker 9: But I mean, look, he had access to all the
Speaker 9: top people at Lufborough where the ECB have their coaching people.
Speaker 9: He could have practiced anywhere he wanted. This is James Anderson,
Speaker 9: so full resources and a voracious work ethic. Now Saudi
Speaker 9: had a bit of that, but we don't have the resources.
Speaker 9: We can't do that. I think that's a false kind
Speaker 9: of way of looking at Tim Southy's position.
Speaker 3: As he gets older.
Speaker 6: One of those resources we've got is Matt Henry. He's
Speaker 6: got to play. He should have been playing in Sri Lankash,
Speaker 6: wasn't he.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 7: You could certainly argue that in hindsight, and I think
Speaker 7: that I would reflect on the fact that, just to
Speaker 7: put it in context, mean I think Southi is one
Speaker 7: of our greats but his time as Jeremy is summed up.
Speaker 7: There really is coming towards the end with the test career,
Speaker 7: and I think that Henry still has that zip about
Speaker 7: him if you like him, and we saw it over summer,
Speaker 7: as I say, with those twenty three records at sixteen
Speaker 7: point nine to five and also coming through the ranks,
Speaker 7: you know will I Rourke as well, who looked really
Speaker 7: I thought venomous at times in Sri Lanka. Ben c
Speaker 7: is coming into the reckoning two of his part of that.
Speaker 7: The party again as well, going to India, so that
Speaker 7: they do have resources in that regard. But yeah, I
Speaker 7: think that that will probably be the case from here
Speaker 7: on in Yeah, the comparison with Jimmy Anderson, yet there
Speaker 7: is no comparisons that with the.
Speaker 4: Resources that are available.
Speaker 7: But I think that I've always admired as to nacity
Speaker 7: and just because he did he never was express pace,
Speaker 7: but he just had a bit of guile about him
Speaker 7: and a bit of venom and a real hunger to
Speaker 7: get those wickets over time, and that's why you know
Speaker 7: he's going to be seeking to Sir Richard in the end.
Speaker 9: And worked so well with Bolt coming in from the
Speaker 9: other becoming the other side, you know, coming back in. Yeah,
Speaker 9: so that worked really nicely for both of them. To
Speaker 9: be fair, I know he's been an outstanding bowler. I
Speaker 9: mean three eighty two wickets is a fantastic performance from him.
Speaker 9: No one's questioning that in all these discussions, I don't think,
Speaker 9: and I think that's probably why he had to make
Speaker 9: the decision himself, had not the coach selector, I think,
Speaker 9: to be honest, and he's mad. He's made the call
Speaker 9: himself and he's right, he's right. Yeah, Well, there aren't
Speaker 9: many other center as captain decided and some one day games,
Speaker 9: hasn't he But.
Speaker 3: He's a bit like Soudy.
Speaker 9: He's not quite so certain of his position on the
Speaker 9: side either. So Mitchell, I look, will the IPL lure
Speaker 9: him away?
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 9: But he hasn't kept him too much, I don't think so.
Speaker 9: There aren't many other choices. It's an interesting one.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 9: They all seem pretty much the same. I don't like
Speaker 9: to say it that way, but you don't feel that
Speaker 9: we're going to see anything different with Tom Lason later
Speaker 9: as captain. And I think it's a function of the
Speaker 9: majority of the group of players have been together, so
Speaker 9: long together, so many games they've played, and they think
Speaker 9: the same way about the game nowadays. Very different group
Speaker 9: when I was there, all sorts of problems, but you know,
Speaker 9: but different ways of looking at the game as well.
Speaker 9: And while it meant, you know, you had disagreement and
Speaker 9: discord at times, it was very good for receiving different ideas.
Speaker 9: At any point you could talk to somebody quietly and
Speaker 9: they'd give you an idea of how they saw the
Speaker 9: game and what should happen next. I'm not sure Layson
Speaker 9: will get that too much.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Interesting, Well, it's going to be a very little
Speaker 6: room for change for India because there's nobody playing any
Speaker 6: cricket at the moment. But I think one of the
Speaker 6: changes they're going to have to make is they're going
Speaker 6: to have to get their spin bowling options sorted out,
Speaker 6: aren't they, Because quite clearly on a turning track we
Speaker 6: weren't able to turn the ball to the extent that
Speaker 6: the Sri Lankan bowlers were the only one who was
Speaker 6: capable really was Phillips and probably should have had Bracewell
Speaker 6: then there as support. How did you see that orders?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you can make that argument and interesting
Speaker 7: to see how they apply that in India, whether they
Speaker 7: think that Santna will bring more their giveness experience in
Speaker 7: India with the ipl that sets over time, and whether
Speaker 7: he knows conditions well. I'm in slightly differcultse with the
Speaker 7: offspin to the He's a left arm orthodox, but I
Speaker 7: think given his experience on the sub continent and the
Speaker 7: wickets that he's taken over many years now, ajs Pttel
Speaker 7: will need to be part of that.
Speaker 4: Mix still too.
Speaker 7: But I'm in favor of continuing down the line of
Speaker 7: the three spinners for sure, if they can just to
Speaker 7: at least give them the best chance of taking those workers.
Speaker 7: If you can combine that, for argument's sake, with Iraq
Speaker 7: and Henry perhaps with the pace element and then just
Speaker 7: throw it to the spinners after that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean Phillips.
Speaker 7: I Like, again, I've spoken about Saudi's tenacity and hunger.
Speaker 7: I'm loving that about Phillips as he develops more. I mean,
Speaker 7: he first came into the New Zealand team as a
Speaker 7: wicket keeper batter, but he's really developed that spin element
Speaker 7: to his game and just apparently just continues to bowl
Speaker 7: whenever he's given the opportunity, whether it's a hotel hallway
Speaker 7: or you know, I've seen him do you lunch breaks
Speaker 7: in New Zealand as well. Just never wants to have
Speaker 7: the ball out of his hand when he's in in
Speaker 7: the field.
Speaker 4: So it's it's going to be one to watch for sure.
Speaker 3: I think the.
Speaker 9: Three three seemas are still an option in India if
Speaker 9: you look at the pictures that have been there against
Speaker 9: say Bangladesh.
Speaker 3: I mean India.
Speaker 9: Themselves played three, didn't they three seemas? So it is
Speaker 9: an option that they could go with that and that
Speaker 9: they could have a slightly different balance. So it's just
Speaker 9: a question of who those three will be. They'll have
Speaker 9: to look at that pretty closely. Yeah, so that is
Speaker 9: an option for them, I think there. But spin spin
Speaker 9: is a bit of an issue, isn't it. But as
Speaker 9: I've said before, when they come back to New Zealand,
Speaker 9: they go missing. They just head to the bush and
Speaker 9: we can't find them, and so we we we play
Speaker 9: four seemas and that is not good. And so we
Speaker 9: suddenly expect them to turn up and come and win
Speaker 9: us a Test against India. You know, it's it's not
Speaker 9: going to be easy.
Speaker 4: So or in the infire.
Speaker 7: I was going to say the infamous case of Asias Pattel,
Speaker 7: get ten wickets and earnings and then don't play on
Speaker 7: your recern home.
Speaker 9: That's right, so Wads, I don't think there's a short
Speaker 9: answer to that question. It's quite a long term one,
Speaker 9: and we have to approach spin bowling slightly differently. You
Speaker 9: mentioned Bracewell. I think he's the one who will turn
Speaker 9: the ball the most. He's more of a style I
Speaker 9: think of Ajas Patel in other words, getting the ball
Speaker 9: up above the batsman's eyes and getting it to drop.
Speaker 9: He does that more than the Santana mode of sort
Speaker 9: of just being as slightly flatter as he was on
Speaker 9: the Second Test, particularly against Sri Lanka. So we need
Speaker 9: to think about that pretty closely though, because obviously their
Speaker 9: key performers in Asia and we need to stick with
Speaker 9: them a bit longer when they come back to New Zealand.
Speaker 9: I think that's a long term view, isn't it. But nevertheless,
Speaker 9: we can't just keep hoping like mad because we're going
Speaker 9: to be going through these six games, seven games in
Speaker 9: Asia in a couple of you know, a couple of
Speaker 9: iterations of this World Test Championship, so we got to
Speaker 9: prepare for those sorts of things.
Speaker 6: All. I'm interested in your take on the fact that
Speaker 6: they came home from Sri Lanka to have a bit
Speaker 6: of a rest. I know that, you know, priv at
Speaker 6: home is always important, but they don't take time off
Speaker 6: to come home. If I've got ipl contracts, they have
Speaker 6: to stay there for the full period of time. But
Speaker 6: it seems strange to me the cost of going there again.
Speaker 6: You know, you're talking two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 6: to fly there and back again, which is the cost
Speaker 6: that New Zuland Cricket have to bear when they could
Speaker 6: have stayed for a week or so in the air
Speaker 6: and use that time to play pickup games or to
Speaker 6: you know, to settle into the Indian style. They're playing
Speaker 6: their first match at Bangalore. Be a nice place to
Speaker 6: go for a week to prepare for an Indian series,
Speaker 6: wouldn't it.
Speaker 7: Well, it's a good point you make, especially about you know,
Speaker 7: if you want to stay in contention in this World
Speaker 7: Test Championship, of course is you know, to be.
Speaker 4: A one Test series in India.
Speaker 7: So it's anomalous task already, but just to get a
Speaker 7: warm up match in or something of that nature ahead
Speaker 7: of the three tests series. But I wonder if they've
Speaker 7: done the numbers or maybe it just came down to
Speaker 7: a cost situation with accommodation et cetera as well, or
Speaker 7: whether they I mean they're massive on the family elements
Speaker 7: in the team, whether they thought by bringing them home
Speaker 7: that would be an appropriate break before going back for
Speaker 7: another time. But yeah, it's a good comparisons with the
Speaker 7: IPL That doesn't happen, does it. So it's yeah, I
Speaker 7: guess a complex scenario, probably with the numbers et cetera
Speaker 7: and the fatigue element, or whether they felt they needed
Speaker 7: to break after after Sri Lanka. But yes, they've chosen
Speaker 7: what they have and I just go back now in
Speaker 7: straight back into it.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what.
Speaker 9: Well they went to lad to a great annoyed a first,
Speaker 9: didn't they. So they went about I don't know, the
Speaker 9: seventh of September, so they had you know, a few
Speaker 9: days probably ten days there first and then a couple
Speaker 9: of weeks, so it was it was getting on for
Speaker 9: a month away, was it. I don't look, I don't know,
Speaker 9: And if they had stayed it would have been I
Speaker 9: guess another two weeks and then three tests. More so
Speaker 9: that would have been a couple of months at least,
Speaker 9: I would have sort I don't know, certainly, the IPL
Speaker 9: is about to change dramatically, isn't it. As we all know,
Speaker 9: you cannot thou shalt thou shalt not leave.
Speaker 6: No, that's going to be one of them. And I
Speaker 6: just want to get your take on the eye pl
Speaker 6: issue that Jerry was talking about. All is Yeah, they're
Speaker 6: going to be punished if they leave ahead of their contract,
Speaker 6: but they're now going to get a boost and earnings
Speaker 6: a match fee of what is equivalent of about thirteen thousand,
Speaker 6: nine hundred nearly fourteen thousand New Zealand dollars for every
Speaker 6: game you play on top of your contract. I mean,
Speaker 6: everybody's going to go there, aren't they if they can.
Speaker 7: It makes me wish I'd spend more time than nets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing, I thought, Jura Bowler.
Speaker 4: I'll do anything for that.
Speaker 10: No, it's incredible dough and I wondered, though I wasn't
Speaker 10: quite clear on that whether that will come out eventually,
Speaker 10: come out of the auction prices, or whether that will
Speaker 10: balance out eventually as a as a quid pro quo
Speaker 10: or whether if.
Speaker 7: That's indeed on top of everything else. I mean, that's
Speaker 7: staggering money when you think eleven players on the field
Speaker 7: as well, I think it'll be.
Speaker 4: Twelve they'll be paid for from the team sheet.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just it's mind boggling really in an indication
Speaker 7: of I think if you look at the wider context
Speaker 7: of just how powerful the BCCI is and all the
Speaker 7: sponsors and the team owners and so forth, and how
Speaker 7: much influence they'll have on the game. And here we
Speaker 7: are talking about trying to create a test calendar or
Speaker 7: you know, will cricketing calendar, and just how much that
Speaker 7: these people are just not going to be budged at
Speaker 7: all in terms of getting what they want from that.
Speaker 7: So your money's going to talk for sure. And this
Speaker 7: is just another example of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. I was just reading in the in
Speaker 6: crick Info said the Sun will be separate to the
Speaker 6: franchise's auction person. To break up the money, the twelve
Speaker 6: players named on the team sheet will be paid the
Speaker 6: additional incentive incentive as a match fee, which works out
Speaker 6: in the ninety lap rupees. But you know it's expensive,
Speaker 6: so it's an extra encouragement, isn't it to get into
Speaker 6: the team. I mean from his endlers point of view,
Speaker 6: due there aren't too many play regularly in the IPO anyway.
Speaker 6: Daryl Mitchell played and Devin Conway played, didn't he regularly?
Speaker 6: Ruts and Ravendra had a few games, But a lot
Speaker 6: of them basically sat on the bench, didn't they?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.
Speaker 9: But that's what makes this tour coming up quite interesting.
Speaker 9: They'll be desperate those players to perform well in India
Speaker 9: in front of these people, and if they can make
Speaker 9: their mark on this tour, they could well come into
Speaker 9: some sort of reckoning. But I think it's also raised
Speaker 9: the pressure. I mean, I know we've been through the
Speaker 9: contract sort of system and time in New Zealand recently. Man,
Speaker 9: what's that next one going to be?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 9: The only way you can get out of that as
Speaker 9: if you're injured. Then we had the players like Santner
Speaker 9: and Mitchell and Williamson, some of those older players, Ferguson
Speaker 9: obviously Will Well, you know he's outside that about Glenn
Speaker 9: Phillips for Allen, all those people. They will be desperate
Speaker 9: to make that group and try to get into that
Speaker 9: IPL now, so extra pressure to on the New Zealand
Speaker 9: you know contract system.
Speaker 6: Interesting addition to the Black capstore. Perhaps a return from
Speaker 6: a different point of view. He was manager in charge
Speaker 6: of boarding, passes and team organization. Now Mike Sandal is
Speaker 6: being employed as the team's performance manager. Now. He was
Speaker 6: part of the administration, logistical and diplomatic Chief executive of
Speaker 6: New Zeven Cricket got Wennick says that his skills flit
Speaker 6: comfortably into the role. What did you make of that?
Speaker 4: All?
Speaker 6: Is Mike Sandal back after winning the Ranfilly Shield for
Speaker 6: Taranaki as the chief executive, He's back in the leadership
Speaker 6: role of the Black A.
Speaker 7: Well, I've got a lot of time for Mike Sander.
Speaker 7: I think he's got a bit of the Midas touch
Speaker 7: there as well. And whether you know that role is
Speaker 7: just I know it's talking about performance, et cetera. But
Speaker 7: he does have the ear of a number of those
Speaker 7: players and as an enormous respect, I suppose the man
Speaker 7: of Mike Sandal in that team environment is pretty big.
Speaker 7: And I mean he's gone on head is to say,
Speaker 7: success with Taranhaki with the NPC, but also the run
Speaker 7: for the ship for the Shield. I just think that
Speaker 7: he will offer, I guess a a wise counsel in
Speaker 7: some regard for some of those players, given when they're
Speaker 7: on tours so regularly. I'm intrigued he's gone back to it,
Speaker 7: just to be perfectly frank, I thought that his days
Speaker 7: would have been done and dusted in that role, so
Speaker 7: much travel overseas, et cetera, that he might have decided
Speaker 7: that enough was enough. And that's probably why we went
Speaker 7: to Tanhaki originally. But he's obviously keen to get back
Speaker 7: into it and they're gonna they're gonna welcome him with
Speaker 7: with open arms. But yeah, it's so wider position rather
Speaker 7: than just the standard manager portfolio.
Speaker 6: Just before you leave us all us hurrah hurrah that
Speaker 6: we're having a real happy time because the White fans
Speaker 6: that all win. They broke a ten game losing streak
Speaker 6: to beat India and it was a bloody good performance.
Speaker 6: But I'd have to say, because India is not an
Speaker 6: easy side.
Speaker 7: To beat, well, that's right, I know around nz in
Speaker 7: metowers here dancing in the streets. It's probably the most
Speaker 7: significant win I think since they beat maybe England in
Speaker 7: that bronze middle match of the Comnwealth Games. It's a
Speaker 7: couple of years ago. But you're convincing and all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, you know, they just look outstanding against what's
Speaker 7: a pretty formidable Indian side these days. In your Sophie
Speaker 7: divine stepping up, but you also had others delivering them
Speaker 7: In the bowling attack can bin well together in rosemany
Speaker 7: me getting four wickets for starters. I think Eden Cars
Speaker 7: and a couple as well. You always have the services
Speaker 7: of immediate cur to stabilize things. But Georgia Plumber doing
Speaker 7: well opening the betting too, so I thought good on
Speaker 7: them for making a statement in that opening win and
Speaker 7: long mate continue from hearing with the Australia coming up
Speaker 7: will be the true benchmark.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it shocked you into reality journey, didn't it.
Speaker 3: I even't sent you a text.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, and I'd love to have seen all
Speaker 9: those people dancing at nz ME. But look, yeah, of
Speaker 9: course it was fantastic for their confidence start of the tournament.
Speaker 9: Perhaps court rather like New Zealand against Afghanistan the first
Speaker 9: game in the t twenties, wasn't it really? In the
Speaker 9: World Cup, India looked just a bit short of a gallop.
Speaker 9: Did you see the catch as they dropped you know,
Speaker 9: and some of the things. So New Zealand. New Zealand
Speaker 9: prospered because of that, and I don't think they'll get
Speaker 9: that help from Australia. But it throws a lot of
Speaker 9: jeopardy on India.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it. Now. I know they've beaten Pakistan.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's suddenly become quite an interesting group that
Speaker 9: Pakistan spinners aren't going to be.
Speaker 3: Easy for New Zealand.
Speaker 9: If you've had a look at that, fellas, that'll be
Speaker 9: interesting against New Zealand. They've got loads of them.
Speaker 3: Ikbar.
Speaker 9: There's a couple of left arm orthodoxes, two off break
Speaker 9: bowlers as a leg break bowler, so they could bowl
Speaker 9: between fifteen and twenty overs of spin. That won't quite
Speaker 9: suit the New Zealand as quite so much. But anyway,
Speaker 9: that's in the future. It's early days.
Speaker 6: Yeah. The grounds over there, of course, are conducive to
Speaker 6: spin the longer they play on the decks over there.
Speaker 6: I'd just like to fish off this morning with one
Speaker 6: important fact you may or may not have caught up with.
Speaker 6: In the world of T twenty domestic cricket, the Garden
Speaker 6: Route Badgers won a six wicket win over the Tuskers
Speaker 6: in the domestic game and because of that win, they're
Speaker 6: now preparing for a match with the Limpopo im Parlors.
Speaker 6: So that's the latest news on Tea twotty Cricket. And
Speaker 6: I'm sure we needed and there was no special match
Speaker 6: fee for anybody.
Speaker 4: Well, I hope not.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm thinking people tuning into the On the Front
Speaker 7: Foot podcast. They're really getting the in depth drilling down
Speaker 7: into the.
Speaker 4: Minutia of the cricket world with the Garden Root Badgers.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I Reckon, Rude climb Past and David Asenboro. They
Speaker 9: will be the commentators or the umpires for sure, bound
Speaker 9: to be.
Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us all as I know you've got
Speaker 6: plenty of work going on, will be continuing through the
Speaker 6: Indian series and hopefully you'll be able to join us
Speaker 6: at some stage to review the one of the test
Speaker 6: matches that they play in India and hopefully it's good
Speaker 6: news that we are talking about at that time.
Speaker 7: No, probably all the base and then yeah, look forward
Speaker 7: to it. Brian, all right, cheers, O, all right, put them,
Speaker 7: don't put a bulletin together.
Speaker 4: I will do up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Check out the Garden Root Badges of what they're up to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you've got to put that result through.
Speaker 4: That's brilliant, all right, elders.
Speaker 6: Cheers, guys, cheers, all right, get yourself ready for the
Speaker 6: rest of the world Team Preview Championship for the women,
Speaker 6: and of course the Test cheams coming up will probably
Speaker 6: have a preview of a mixture a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be good, look forward to that, all right.
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