1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,519 Speaker 1: Now the Cancer Control Agency has dropped as twenty twenty 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: five report and they have conclusions, and their conclusions is 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: we need more funding and we need earlier detection that 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: we can cancer cases will climb from just over thirty 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: thousand this year to more than forty five thousand by 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: twenty forty four. And half of those cases they say 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: could be prevented if we cut tobacco, dial back the booze, 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: and got serious about healthy living and sun safety. So 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: joining me now to talk about this is Nicola Kerman. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Nicola is the chief executive for the Southern Cancer Society. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Hello Nicoler, excuse me, Hello. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: Nikola, Good morning Andrew. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: So how do these numbers compare to other countries. Do 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: we have more cancer in New Zealand than other places 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: or is this within the international standard? 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Great question look in to New Zealand is unfortunately leading 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: the way in areas that we wouldn't want to be 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: leader in. So in terms of melanoma, we leave the 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: world in rate of diagnosis around melanoma. But there's a 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: lot of good news in this report. There's good news, 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: but we can do better. I think some of the 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: things they're really encouraging about this report is that our 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: survival rates are increasing, So that means the likelihood of 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: someone in New Zealand doing of cancer is declining and 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: the chances of them surviving greater than five years posted 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: diagnosis has also improved. But generally people in New Zealand 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: are living longer with cancer. Yes, they are in other 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: OECD countries as well. But I would say that other 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: OECD countries that we compare ourselves to are doing far 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: more in the cancer prevention space than we are, and 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: therefore they are preventing more cancer than we are in 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: New Zealand. 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: And is that because of more funding because you said 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: that in your conclusion earlier detection more funding. Are we underfunded? 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I'd say we are in key areas, and those 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: key areas would be around access to medicines. Look, we 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: had a significant increase in cancer medicines. The pharmac budget 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: was increased by six hundred and four million. We had 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: an uplift and that's resulted in more lives being saved. 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: But we can't stop there and do these one off 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: you know. I think we've got to get into ourselves 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: into a position in New Zealand where we're continually investing 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: in cancer and in health as opposed to reactively investing. 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: One of the things that this report does show is 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: there the things we're doing in the country that is 46 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: that are working well. So let's keep doing it. Let's 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: not do it as a one off or fund it 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: as a one off. Screening is an example of that 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: and prevention. 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: And that is within our own orbits and we can 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: do that. That's up to us taking personal responsibility. But 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: I needed to get down to the point of what 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of level of extra funding might we need to 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: help you achieve these goals. 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think there's three key areas that this 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: government could fund or the next government, and they are 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: the introduction of lung cancer screening. This report shows that 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: one of the biggest areas that we could have an 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: impact on is lung cancer. Your half of all cancer 60 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: deaths are from. 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Five Again, what sort of level of funding will be needed? 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: What sort of money, So there's actually a business case 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: going to Treasury probably are right about now or in 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks to funds a lung cancer 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: screening program. So to establish that, we're probably talking anywhere 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: between sixteen to twenty million for a lung cancer to 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: introduce a lung cancer screening program in New Zealand. I 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: think the country country knows beal cancer screening. You know, 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: we could save significant numbers of lives if we started 70 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: screening people for bel cancer at age fifty. And I 71 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: know the government know that. I know they're making good steps. 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: That's been reduced from sixty to fifty eight already, but 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: we've got to have a plan to keep producing that 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 2: getting that down to fifty. 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: All right, Nikola, thank you so very very much. That 76 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: is Nicola kumb from the Southern Kansas Society. 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: For more from earlier edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: to News Talks at B from five am weekdays, or 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio