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Speaker 2: Hello you on a good afternoon. Welcome in to the

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Speaker 2: Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. November

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday Merv Hughes. Joel Evanderry also born on this

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Speaker 2: young in twenty twenty two. I'm Jason Pine Show producer

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Speaker 2: is Andy McDonald. We are here until three after two

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Speaker 2: o'clock today. Really looking forward to chatting with star Australian

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson on a range of issues.

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Speaker 2: How does he rate the All Blacks year, Is there

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Speaker 2: anything in these rumors about a breakaway global rugby franchise competition?

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Speaker 2: And what sort of French team is coming down here

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Speaker 2: The All Blacks, of course play Italy tomorrow morning, their

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Speaker 2: former Italy coach Karen Crowley. Other matters around today. Secondary

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Speaker 2: ASB Tennis Classic is returning to Aukland this summer. You

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Speaker 2: while we're on the air today, Final round matches and

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I know you've got places to be

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Speaker 8: through yourself too, so I appreciate your time.

437
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Speaker 2: Thanks no, thank you, Mark, Mark Robinson, there CEO of

438
00:22:28,427 --> 00:22:32,467
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby, your chance to react to anything you

439
00:22:32,547 --> 00:22:34,827
Speaker 2: heard there. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Are we

440
00:22:34,907 --> 00:22:37,907
Speaker 2: going to save our All Blacks report card? If you

441
00:22:37,947 --> 00:22:39,187
Speaker 2: can call it that. We're going to call it that

442
00:22:39,747 --> 00:22:43,547
Speaker 2: until tomorrow after the Italy Test. It's almost certainly going

443
00:22:43,627 --> 00:22:46,467
Speaker 2: to be ten wins, four losses for the All Blacks

444
00:22:46,507 --> 00:22:49,307
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four. I can't see a scenario under

445
00:22:49,347 --> 00:22:52,227
Speaker 2: which this team loses to Italy tomorrow morning. But we'll

446
00:22:52,387 --> 00:22:57,107
Speaker 2: unpack the first year of Razors Rain tomorrow. We're on

447
00:22:57,187 --> 00:22:59,827
Speaker 2: the air shortly after the final whistle and churin around

448
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Speaker 2: eleven fifteen tomorrow morning, so we've got a bit of

449
00:23:01,787 --> 00:23:07,107
Speaker 2: extra time to unpack the All Blacks year. I mentioned

450
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Speaker 2: some numbers at the end there to Mark. I just

451
00:23:10,187 --> 00:23:12,947
Speaker 2: wanted to expand on those and give you some specifics

452
00:23:12,987 --> 00:23:17,587
Speaker 2: community Rugby in New Zealand. Numbers are the highest they've

453
00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:20,667
Speaker 2: been since pre COVID in twenty nineteen, more than one

454
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five thousand players. At community level, there's

455
00:23:25,347 --> 00:23:27,867
Speaker 2: a record number of women and girls playing, a fifteen

456
00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:32,027
Speaker 2: percent increase this year thirty three seven hundred and fifty

457
00:23:32,107 --> 00:23:34,787
Speaker 2: seven women and girls and an increase and this surprised me.

458
00:23:35,267 --> 00:23:39,707
Speaker 2: An increase in teenage boys and senior men. Six percent

459
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Speaker 2: rise in teenage boys playing and three percent for senior men.

460
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Speaker 2: I was just under the impression that that number was

461
00:23:47,147 --> 00:23:53,547
Speaker 2: going the other way. Super Rugby broadcast viewership on Sky

462
00:23:53,907 --> 00:23:57,787
Speaker 2: increased by twelve percent, attendance up nine percent, and the

463
00:23:57,907 --> 00:24:02,187
Speaker 2: NPC fan attendance up fourteen percent over one hundred and

464
00:24:02,227 --> 00:24:04,587
Speaker 2: ninety thousand fans turning up to watch the regular season.

465
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Speaker 2: So some numbers there that show positive science. I'd be

466
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Speaker 2: very keen to know how connected you feel to rugby

467
00:24:12,707 --> 00:24:14,707
Speaker 2: right now or certain parts of it, lines opened to chat,

468
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Speaker 2: or anything else you heard from Mark Robinson. There our

469
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Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two. If

470
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Speaker 2: you would like to send a text twenty nine to

471
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Speaker 2: one before one o'clock, we'll check in with Kiaren Crowley,

472
00:24:25,747 --> 00:24:29,507
Speaker 2: former All Blacks fullback former Italy rugby coach. The line's

473
00:24:29,547 --> 00:24:31,627
Speaker 2: open for a week while our eight hundred eighty ten

474
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Speaker 2: eighty back with your calls after.

475
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Speaker 1: This the tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with

476
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Speaker 1: Jason Tyme and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

477
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Speaker 10: News Talk.

478
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Speaker 2: Twelve thirty four News Talks. There'd be hello Mark, Yeah, funny,

479
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Speaker 2: how are you good? Thank you? Mark?

480
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Speaker 11: Good?

481
00:24:51,067 --> 00:24:51,747
Speaker 9: Good good, Hey you.

482
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Speaker 10: I was just stepping overcord the last Italians of the

483
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Speaker 10: interview with the steer Mark Robinson, and I just sort

484
00:24:56,827 --> 00:24:58,907
Speaker 10: of wanted to bring you up and have a chat

485
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Speaker 10: about something slightly different about a rugby and which is

486
00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:05,467
Speaker 10: under eighty five kg men's rugby. Yeah please, Basically I

487
00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:08,027
Speaker 10: would app look, we love It's sort of dawned upon

488
00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:09,907
Speaker 10: me that we should, you know, talk about with us

489
00:25:09,947 --> 00:25:12,907
Speaker 10: worth talkback because you guys have a lot of sway

490
00:25:13,227 --> 00:25:15,747
Speaker 10: and you know getting out there on the radio about

491
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Speaker 10: promoting the particular grade.

492
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Speaker 12: And I would.

493
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Speaker 10: Absolutely love to see you know, the rugby union not

494
00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:23,787
Speaker 10: just give it lib service, actually go right. Well, we

495
00:25:23,947 --> 00:25:25,627
Speaker 10: put half as much effort as we did to the

496
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Speaker 10: women's game and promoting that into this rugby players would

497
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Speaker 10: just go skyrock rocketing up, and you know, I think

498
00:25:33,387 --> 00:25:35,107
Speaker 10: it's the way forward. I'd actually like to see you

499
00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:37,827
Speaker 10: set a goal within five years that we have an

500
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Speaker 10: eighty five All Blacks Test against Australia and Fiji and

501
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Speaker 10: Somemo and then set an example for it.

502
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Speaker 13: But how good can you imagine.

503
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Speaker 10: Fifteen guys running around like Damien McKenzie. Yes, you know

504
00:25:52,187 --> 00:25:55,027
Speaker 10: my experience with it. I mean I'm forty four now

505
00:25:55,067 --> 00:25:58,827
Speaker 10: and I grew up Wellington and played for Paniki there

506
00:25:58,827 --> 00:26:00,907
Speaker 10: and there's various teams in there, and you know, twenty

507
00:26:01,067 --> 00:26:02,667
Speaker 10: years ago it's actually had its day.

508
00:26:03,067 --> 00:26:03,947
Speaker 12: So we had three.

509
00:26:03,827 --> 00:26:07,867
Speaker 10: Divisions and they I think there's ten teams next division,

510
00:26:07,947 --> 00:26:09,747
Speaker 10: and now I think there's just one division, so it's

511
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Speaker 10: actually shrinking. And then I live in christ Church now

512
00:26:12,227 --> 00:26:13,867
Speaker 10: and it's always sort of a Canterbury. You know, we

513
00:26:14,107 --> 00:26:16,947
Speaker 10: would play real rugby here, but the players are dropping off,

514
00:26:16,947 --> 00:26:19,747
Speaker 10: the divisions are dropping off. So I'd really like to

515
00:26:19,787 --> 00:26:22,627
Speaker 10: see someone actually set within the union, actually go to

516
00:26:22,747 --> 00:26:24,747
Speaker 10: all the second fifteen to third fifteens and all that

517
00:26:24,827 --> 00:26:27,227
Speaker 10: sort of stuff at school and go, hey, this is

518
00:26:27,267 --> 00:26:29,867
Speaker 10: an option to stay at the game. Instead of club

519
00:26:29,947 --> 00:26:32,627
Speaker 10: squabbling over the best players, have a much more bipartisan

520
00:26:32,667 --> 00:26:35,347
Speaker 10: an approach and go, well, you know, we're here, you're here.

521
00:26:35,467 --> 00:26:37,347
Speaker 10: Let's try and fee those team together and get that

522
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Speaker 10: back into the because it's the spirit of the game.

523
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Speaker 9: It really is.

524
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Speaker 10: Because if you're one hundred and thirty gigs or something

525
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Speaker 10: straight out of school, you're going to get a professional

526
00:26:44,787 --> 00:26:47,467
Speaker 10: gig somewhere, and that's not really what it's about. But

527
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Speaker 10: we have to look and go, well, actually, instead of

528
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Speaker 10: still looking at eighty eight as an amateur thing, well,

529
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Speaker 10: we'll look at it as a as a real proper

530
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Speaker 10: rugby progression for those particular athletes. And they are fantastic

531
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Speaker 10: players and that's what it really boils down to. And

532
00:27:01,907 --> 00:27:04,467
Speaker 10: it's really attractive to watch because we're competing with rugby

533
00:27:04,587 --> 00:27:07,347
Speaker 10: League and I also think it's work for rugby league

534
00:27:07,387 --> 00:27:10,347
Speaker 10: as well. That would be absolutely so exciting to.

535
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Speaker 12: Watch, you know.

536
00:27:11,307 --> 00:27:13,587
Speaker 2: But what you yeah, I love it. I love it,

537
00:27:13,627 --> 00:27:15,627
Speaker 2: and I think what it would do also is keep

538
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Speaker 2: people in the game. Mark as you've referenced there, because

539
00:27:18,547 --> 00:27:20,627
Speaker 2: you know at school, I'm sure you've seen this. The

540
00:27:20,867 --> 00:27:23,987
Speaker 2: numbers at schools are going down because if you're under

541
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Speaker 2: If you're under one hundred kilos, often there isn't a

542
00:27:26,787 --> 00:27:30,227
Speaker 2: place for you in the first fifteen, you know. But yeah,

543
00:27:30,467 --> 00:27:32,147
Speaker 2: I remember that the eighty eighties, I remember what you're

544
00:27:32,227 --> 00:27:34,227
Speaker 2: right and Willington that it was that Ponicky So was

545
00:27:34,227 --> 00:27:36,467
Speaker 2: that the Dogs of War or something like that they

546
00:27:36,547 --> 00:27:37,587
Speaker 2: won the.

547
00:27:37,627 --> 00:27:39,867
Speaker 10: Competition of both dogs in the cabs, you know.

548
00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:45,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, those things are iconic absolutely.

549
00:27:45,587 --> 00:27:46,067
Speaker 12: Journalists.

550
00:27:46,387 --> 00:27:48,827
Speaker 10: Yeah, the sports journalist Jamie Wall as well, that played

551
00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:50,867
Speaker 10: for them, and there's a lot of people with that

552
00:27:51,027 --> 00:27:54,187
Speaker 10: experience in that particular part of the game. And yeah,

553
00:27:54,187 --> 00:27:56,267
Speaker 10: we're sort of I'm in christ just trying to get

554
00:27:56,267 --> 00:27:58,067
Speaker 10: this sort off we're talking about at the club, but

555
00:27:58,187 --> 00:28:01,747
Speaker 10: it's really hard to sort of just find the avenue

556
00:28:01,787 --> 00:28:03,627
Speaker 10: on how to do it without the top end support

557
00:28:03,707 --> 00:28:07,027
Speaker 10: the guy. We're into this, but they're not really supporting it.

558
00:28:07,067 --> 00:28:09,827
Speaker 10: It's very top here. But you know, it's of teams

559
00:28:09,867 --> 00:28:10,627
Speaker 10: at matter or.

560
00:28:11,307 --> 00:28:14,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the fact that they're yeah, I think

561
00:28:14,147 --> 00:28:16,147
Speaker 2: the fact that they're talking about this and are going

562
00:28:16,187 --> 00:28:19,227
Speaker 2: to send this team off. You know, it's to Shrill Anchor,

563
00:28:19,227 --> 00:28:21,027
Speaker 2: which seems an odd place to send a rugby team,

564
00:28:21,107 --> 00:28:23,467
Speaker 2: but you know, the Asian market I know is one

565
00:28:23,507 --> 00:28:26,907
Speaker 2: that he's on a rugby keen on connecting with you know,

566
00:28:27,307 --> 00:28:29,387
Speaker 2: who knows what the future might hold Mark. You know,

567
00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:31,947
Speaker 2: and as I've often said, when you innovate around keeping

568
00:28:31,987 --> 00:28:33,867
Speaker 2: players in the game, nothing should be off the table.

569
00:28:34,187 --> 00:28:37,707
Speaker 2: And Mark, if there's an under eighty five kilogram test

570
00:28:37,787 --> 00:28:40,867
Speaker 2: match between the All Blacks and the Wallabies, you and

571
00:28:40,947 --> 00:28:43,027
Speaker 2: I need to sit together in the stand and watch that. Mate.

572
00:28:43,267 --> 00:28:46,467
Speaker 2: I'll make this undertaking to you right now if that

573
00:28:46,587 --> 00:28:48,787
Speaker 2: ever happens, you and I watching that game together, Mate,

574
00:28:49,147 --> 00:28:50,587
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. Thanks for calling in and

575
00:28:50,947 --> 00:28:53,667
Speaker 2: putting it in the spotlight. Really appreciate it. Hey, George, how.

576
00:28:53,587 --> 00:28:56,147
Speaker 12: Are you good things Bonie? How are you mate?

577
00:28:56,387 --> 00:28:57,707
Speaker 2: I'm good, George very good.

578
00:28:58,827 --> 00:28:58,987
Speaker 12: Hey.

579
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Speaker 14: Yeah.

580
00:29:00,267 --> 00:29:04,187
Speaker 12: Overall, just a quickly tacking up on Mark's point year

581
00:29:04,267 --> 00:29:06,907
Speaker 12: just before, Like I think if you're if you're putting

582
00:29:06,947 --> 00:29:10,267
Speaker 12: an eighty five A final as a curtain raiser to

583
00:29:10,307 --> 00:29:12,307
Speaker 12: an All Blacks game, I think you know there's a

584
00:29:12,387 --> 00:29:15,427
Speaker 12: there's a definite level of commitment there from from the

585
00:29:15,507 --> 00:29:18,267
Speaker 12: top around promoting that grade. So I certainly don't think

586
00:29:18,267 --> 00:29:20,707
Speaker 12: it's all bad from a from a head level around

587
00:29:21,067 --> 00:29:23,907
Speaker 12: promoting the emergence of that really strong grace and really

588
00:29:23,947 --> 00:29:28,827
Speaker 12: interesting comments from Mark Robinson before yep, but really quickly

589
00:29:28,947 --> 00:29:32,507
Speaker 12: just just overall sentiment really buoyed by those by the

590
00:29:32,827 --> 00:29:35,387
Speaker 12: comments of Mark Ronson there in terms of the state

591
00:29:35,427 --> 00:29:38,707
Speaker 12: of footing and commending you on on how you interview me.

592
00:29:38,707 --> 00:29:41,547
Speaker 12: He always seems to be very open to the state

593
00:29:41,627 --> 00:29:43,707
Speaker 12: of the game discussions with you, and I feel like

594
00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:47,747
Speaker 12: he's really grown into that role now. Sometimes it's sometimes

595
00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:49,827
Speaker 12: I forget it. I guess he took over that role

596
00:29:49,867 --> 00:29:52,507
Speaker 12: in the midst of COVID in twenty twenty and his

597
00:29:53,147 --> 00:29:55,227
Speaker 12: you know, had to chart a lot of path around

598
00:29:55,747 --> 00:29:57,787
Speaker 12: progression of the game, and some of it forced and

599
00:29:58,107 --> 00:30:01,747
Speaker 12: the Africa breakaway from superin things. But it feels like

600
00:30:01,827 --> 00:30:04,987
Speaker 12: he's really grown into the into the role now and

601
00:30:05,307 --> 00:30:08,867
Speaker 12: he's got a really good progressive attitude by the sound

602
00:30:08,947 --> 00:30:10,987
Speaker 12: of things there. And you know, at least at this

603
00:30:11,107 --> 00:30:14,787
Speaker 12: part of the world, we seem pretty steadfast on putting

604
00:30:14,827 --> 00:30:17,947
Speaker 12: the fan at the front of the product journal we

605
00:30:18,067 --> 00:30:21,347
Speaker 12: can around law variations and things within the game. So,

606
00:30:21,907 --> 00:30:24,227
Speaker 12: you know, nothing more than just probably a general compliment

607
00:30:24,307 --> 00:30:26,547
Speaker 12: to Mark Robinson there, because I know he's sort of

608
00:30:26,747 --> 00:30:30,067
Speaker 12: dealt with his criticism in the past, but he seems

609
00:30:30,107 --> 00:30:32,547
Speaker 12: to be every time he's on your show anyway, shown

610
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Speaker 12: a really positive sentiment around progression of the game.

611
00:30:36,307 --> 00:30:38,747
Speaker 2: Good man, George, Yeah, I agree. I agree. And having

612
00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:42,147
Speaker 2: chatted to people like Brett Robinson last week, the new

613
00:30:42,227 --> 00:30:44,267
Speaker 2: chair of World Rugby Bill Sweeney when he was over

614
00:30:44,307 --> 00:30:47,027
Speaker 2: here at the head of the RF, you when England

615
00:30:47,067 --> 00:30:49,667
Speaker 2: were here earlier in the year, they all speak very

616
00:30:49,707 --> 00:30:52,707
Speaker 2: highly of Mark Robinson at that world rugby level and

617
00:30:52,827 --> 00:30:56,467
Speaker 2: the advocacy that he gives to things like speeding up

618
00:30:56,507 --> 00:30:59,387
Speaker 2: the game, less TMO interference, the twenty minute red card,

619
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Speaker 2: the entertainment value, putting the fan at the center of

620
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Speaker 2: the conversation. I think often he is unfairly maligned for

621
00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:12,867
Speaker 2: whatever reason. But and it's a massive job CEO of

622
00:31:12,947 --> 00:31:16,507
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby, that's a big job. But yeah, I

623
00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:20,907
Speaker 2: think certainly at that world rugby level he represents us

624
00:31:21,027 --> 00:31:22,707
Speaker 2: very well. And there are a lot of balls in

625
00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:25,267
Speaker 2: the air here in New Zealand as well, everything from

626
00:31:25,387 --> 00:31:28,267
Speaker 2: the teams in Black as he calls them all blacks,

627
00:31:28,307 --> 00:31:31,187
Speaker 2: black Ferns, the Seven Sides down through age group teams,

628
00:31:31,267 --> 00:31:36,467
Speaker 2: through Super Rugby, through NPC all of the women's competitions

629
00:31:36,507 --> 00:31:41,787
Speaker 2: as well, Opikie and and you know the women's Farah

630
00:31:41,827 --> 00:31:44,667
Speaker 2: Palmer Cup and then down to the grassroots secondary school.

631
00:31:44,707 --> 00:31:48,347
Speaker 2: That is a big job, a really big job. Going

632
00:31:48,427 --> 00:31:49,707
Speaker 2: to have to move because I need to get to

633
00:31:49,787 --> 00:31:52,667
Speaker 2: Karen Crowley before one o'clock. But before we do that,

634
00:31:54,227 --> 00:31:58,227
Speaker 2: the ASB Tennis Classic returns to Auckland this summer. Women's

635
00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:02,387
Speaker 2: Week December thirty through January five, Men's Week January six

636
00:32:02,507 --> 00:32:04,587
Speaker 2: to eleven. Action is going to be hot on and

637
00:32:04,667 --> 00:32:07,467
Speaker 2: off the court at the ASB Classic and tickets at

638
00:32:07,507 --> 00:32:10,627
Speaker 2: ASB Classic dot co dot nz. Now we are this

639
00:32:10,787 --> 00:32:14,067
Speaker 2: weekend giving you the chance to get courtside every hour

640
00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:16,027
Speaker 2: of the show. Today and tomorrow we're going to play

641
00:32:16,107 --> 00:32:20,507
Speaker 2: Guess the Grunter. Guess the Grunter. It's one of the

642
00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:23,387
Speaker 2: all time great competitions. You just have to guess who

643
00:32:23,467 --> 00:32:25,787
Speaker 2: it is and we'll even give you a clue if

644
00:32:25,867 --> 00:32:28,707
Speaker 2: you know who our grunter is. Now you need to

645
00:32:28,787 --> 00:32:33,627
Speaker 2: listen to this bit carefully. Text the word tennis, then

646
00:32:33,707 --> 00:32:36,547
Speaker 2: your name and then the grunter or who you think

647
00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:39,347
Speaker 2: it is into nine two niney two. You must put

648
00:32:39,387 --> 00:32:41,427
Speaker 2: the word tennis there otherwise it won't get through to

649
00:32:41,547 --> 00:32:45,347
Speaker 2: us in the right place, all right, So you text tennis,

650
00:32:45,827 --> 00:32:48,707
Speaker 2: then your name, and then who you think the grunter is.

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, just after nine New Zealand time. They face

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Speaker 2: Italy and Turin. For commentary here on News Talks EDB.

665
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Speaker 2: Former thirty five game nineteen test All Blacks fullback Karen

666
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Speaker 2: Crowley coached itally from twenty twenty one through to the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Rugby World Cup that time at the

668
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Speaker 2: Helm included Anisuric first ever went over Australia and ending

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Speaker 2: a long windless run in the Six Nations. He's now

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Speaker 2: coaching in Japan and joins US now Karen. After the

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Speaker 2: World Cup last year, you said that the Italian players

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Speaker 2: need to start being treated with a bit of respect

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Speaker 2: off the field. What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I good to beyond.

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Speaker 15: Look, yeah, that was within within Italy circles. I felt,

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Speaker 15: I feel, you know, there's some stuff goes on behind

677
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Speaker 15: the scenes that are not don't don't put the team

678
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Speaker 15: in the best position, you know, to perform on weekends

679
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Speaker 15: or on games. And you know there was stuff going

680
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Speaker 15: on in the World Cup behind the scenes that shouldn't

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Speaker 15: have been going on.

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Speaker 16: You know, just things like that.

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Speaker 15: There was a sort of there was a dig at

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Speaker 15: the at the Italian Italian hierarchy. I suppose of the time.

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Speaker 2: Do you think things have improved?

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Speaker 9: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 15: You know, they got rid of me straight after that.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, look, the guys I.

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Speaker 13: Think it is.

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Speaker 15: You know, I think their performances are showing that they

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Speaker 15: are in that respect, So you know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 15: things are progressing. There's been a change in leadership, which

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Speaker 15: I think is as a good move and hopefully you know,

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Speaker 15: they get the benefit of that.

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Speaker 2: So on the grass then I think you also said

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Speaker 2: that this current World Cup CYC, well, the one we're

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Speaker 2: in now, could be at least time. Have you seen

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Speaker 2: that on field progress in the last year or so?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I think the reason I said that is that,

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Speaker 15: you know, I thought most of the guys that went

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Speaker 15: to the last World Cup will be at this next

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Speaker 15: World Cup, and then I think most of them will

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Speaker 15: be at the World Cup after that as well. And

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Speaker 15: I think, you know, you're gonna have a lot.

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Speaker 18: Of players by.

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Speaker 15: Well, by this World Cup who have had fifty or

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Speaker 15: sixty test matches, and then the next World Cup, you

709
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Speaker 15: know they're going to be up above that, which you know,

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Speaker 15: they haven't had that for a long time because there

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Speaker 15: was a you know, a whole lot of younger guys

712
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Speaker 15: came in at the same time, and they'll be going forward.

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Speaker 15: You know, I think they're going to have a massive

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Speaker 15: challenge against New Zealand or against the Allbacks on Saturday,

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Speaker 15: but you know, I think they if they get the

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Speaker 15: right sort of draw at the next World Cup, you

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Speaker 15: know they could be pushing or should be pushing for

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Speaker 15: top eight anyway, I think.

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Speaker 2: If there are areas which you could pinpoint that still

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Speaker 2: need to improve if they are to achieve that sort

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Speaker 2: of a goal at the next Rugby World Cup came,

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Speaker 2: and what would they be. Where do they need to

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Speaker 2: still improve?

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Speaker 15: They need big men up front? I mean they haven't

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Speaker 15: got big men. You know, they've got good players. I

726
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Speaker 15: mean you look at their front row, the luseir prop

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Speaker 15: the players against you know, they all blacks on the

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Speaker 15: weekend is against you know, one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 15: kilo guy and he's one hundred and nine kilos, you know,

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Speaker 15: and at international level, you know, you've got to have parity.

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Speaker 2: It's in those sort of.

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Speaker 15: Positions because you know you can hang in and hang

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Speaker 15: in and hang in. But ultimately, you know, the saying goes,

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Speaker 15: you know, a good big man will always always been

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Speaker 15: a good smaller man. So they need to get a

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Speaker 15: little bit more size, particularly in their type five is

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Speaker 15: probably the major area.

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Speaker 17: I think.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's attracting big men though, isn't it that?

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Speaker 2: How do you how do you even start to strategize

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Speaker 2: to do that? Do you just go and look around

742
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Speaker 2: the country for big blokes.

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Speaker 15: Well, there's a few players you know, like who who

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Speaker 15: you know are Italian qualified. I mean a guy like

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Speaker 15: Deno Lamb for example, who has just crossed over. Was

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Speaker 15: know was Italian eligible, you know, and he's a bigger

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Speaker 15: man than some of them have got. There's a couple

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Speaker 15: of others out there that you know, they need to

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Speaker 15: try and really entice over and then you know they

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Speaker 15: need to they need to get their systems right that

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Speaker 15: you know. Sometimes a bigger kid, you know coming through

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Speaker 15: you know he's not going to make it for a

753
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Speaker 15: little while, but he develops later. So you know, you've

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Speaker 15: got to put your put your faith in those sort

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Speaker 15: of guys rather than you know, taking the hair and now,

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Speaker 15: I mean there's a hell of a lot of six

757
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Speaker 15: for two locks in Italy, you know, whereas they need

758
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Speaker 15: to be six, what's five six, what's six? You know,

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Speaker 15: even higher, so we're taller. So you know, you've got

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Speaker 15: to put your faith in your and some younger, younger

761
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Speaker 15: people that may not be ready at the moment.

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Speaker 2: There was a suggestion that the all Black side to

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Speaker 2: play this game might be a little bit below full strength.

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Speaker 2: Having played England Island in France and three big test

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Speaker 2: matches over the last three weekends. But raises name is

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Speaker 2: pretty much a full strength side. Was that a surprise

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Speaker 2: to you?

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Speaker 19: Oh?

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Speaker 15: Yes and no. I mean, look, they would have a

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Speaker 15: plan I think going in. I think if that beaten France,

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Speaker 15: it could have been different. The fact that you know

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Speaker 15: they didn't quite get over the line against France has

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Speaker 15: probably influenced things.

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Speaker 9: A little bit, but.

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Speaker 15: You know, so you know that that was my main

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Speaker 15: takeaway from that. I mean also you've got a couple

777
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Speaker 15: of guys retiring, and Caine and Peranara and they'll want

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Speaker 15: to send them off on the right right sort of

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Speaker 15: foot as well.

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Speaker 2: How have you rated the first year under Scott Robertson's

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Speaker 2: helm ship. I guess for the All Blacks.

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Speaker 15: It's been challenging at the start obviously. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 15: I think they could have gone across the line and

784
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Speaker 15: you know in a couple of games that they've lost,

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Speaker 15: but they also could have got beaten in a couple

786
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Speaker 15: of games I've won, you know, if you look at

787
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Speaker 15: those England games. But you know, it's the same anywhere

788
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Speaker 15: you go. A new coach coming in or a new

789
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Speaker 15: coaching team. You know, they take a little while the systems,

790
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Speaker 15: they have new players, et cetera, et cetera. So you know,

791
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Speaker 15: I think they're tracking in the right way. You know,

792
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Speaker 15: they've had some good performances and you know, if they

793
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Speaker 15: finished strongly on the week or on the week again,

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Speaker 15: well then you know, I think you can certainly say

795
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Speaker 15: that it's been a successful first year. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 15: they've just introduced some newer players and guys like Satiti

797
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Speaker 15: and you know, the halfbacks getting a little bit more depth.

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Speaker 15: You know, they're probably the one area that they probably

799
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Speaker 15: are looking at a little bit harder is probably the

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Speaker 15: ten area. But you know, apart from that, I think,

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Speaker 15: you know, it's been a pretty positive, positive year.

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Speaker 2: How's your first year been in Japan? Uh?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, a bit of a struggle last year. Yeah, we

804
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Speaker 15: comeing to a team that had just got promoted to

805
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Speaker 15: First Division and you know we were we got a

806
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Speaker 15: few hidings, but we're putting a lot of hard work

807
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Speaker 15: in this at the beginning of the preseason at the

808
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Speaker 15: moment and looking forward to this season, hopefully we can improve.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear, Hey, Karen, really appreciate you taking time

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Speaker 2: for a chat and lending us some of your analysis

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Speaker 2: and insight. Thank you very much. Cheers, all the best,

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Speaker 2: all the best to you too, Karen Karen Crowley, their

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Speaker 2: sat down to watch that cricket yesterday afternoon, the first

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Speaker 2: day of the highly anticipated Test series between Australia and India.

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Speaker 2: Still as highly anticipated, but India won the toss and

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Speaker 2: so you will have a bat all out one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty, all out one fifty. Looking at the bowling figures,

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Speaker 2: Josh Hazelwood four for twenty nine, couple of wickets for

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Speaker 2: Mitchell Marsh, couple for Mitchell Stark. But if Australia thought

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Speaker 2: that that would be a relatively comfortable total to overhaul

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Speaker 2: and to start building a lead from they were mistaken

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Speaker 2: sixty seven for seven. They are seventeen wickets falling on

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Speaker 2: the first day in Perth, so yeah, this test is

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Speaker 2: quite a way advanced. Jasperit Bomera four for seventeen. He

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Speaker 2: has to be right near the top of seam bowlers

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Speaker 2: around the world at the moment. So sixty seven for

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Speaker 2: seven Australian chasing India first innings of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty so as that's the lady three before they can

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Speaker 2: start thinking about a first inning's lead. Who's in Alex

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Speaker 2: Carey and Mitchell Stark. I was watching Manus Lava Shane

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Speaker 2: batt He got two off fifty two balls. That's one

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Speaker 2: of the old time great trying to stick around in

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Speaker 2: things from Marnus Lavashank. Anyway, we'll get to Adam Peacock

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Speaker 2: across the Tasman this hour to see if he can

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Speaker 2: unpack exactly what's going on there, as well as other

866
00:43:19,147 --> 00:43:22,267
Speaker 2: Australian sporting matters. We'll play guess the grunts are again.

867
00:43:22,307 --> 00:43:25,067
Speaker 2: I can't believe how many entries we had Andy in

868
00:43:25,147 --> 00:43:28,227
Speaker 2: the first in the first hour of the show, they

869
00:43:28,267 --> 00:43:30,987
Speaker 2: were flying in the machine almost melted.

870
00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:34,147
Speaker 20: I think about three hundred three hundred or so entries

871
00:43:34,547 --> 00:43:37,187
Speaker 20: with my quick counting. I don't believe how much people

872
00:43:37,387 --> 00:43:42,027
Speaker 20: love love tennis grunts. It's fantastic. I think our promost

873
00:43:42,067 --> 00:43:45,227
Speaker 20: team are onto a winner with guess the grunts. Next

874
00:43:45,267 --> 00:43:47,307
Speaker 20: time you play tennis, I'm going to like put a

875
00:43:47,387 --> 00:43:49,147
Speaker 20: secret mic out there so we can throw.

876
00:43:49,067 --> 00:43:49,507
Speaker 12: You in there.

877
00:43:50,387 --> 00:43:53,867
Speaker 2: Well, I'll do the same for you. Weren't you involved

878
00:43:53,947 --> 00:43:57,507
Speaker 2: in the news talks the'd be Sport Christmas Party tennis

879
00:43:57,547 --> 00:43:58,347
Speaker 2: tournament last year?

880
00:43:58,467 --> 00:43:58,707
Speaker 9: I was.

881
00:43:58,787 --> 00:44:01,627
Speaker 20: It didn't go particularly well for me. Oh, I was

882
00:44:01,627 --> 00:44:04,227
Speaker 20: a doubles tournament and I was what did they call me?

883
00:44:04,267 --> 00:44:07,707
Speaker 20: They called me Andy Vic. Dubble Fault was my nickname,

884
00:44:07,787 --> 00:44:11,827
Speaker 20: which I thought was it was quite I had a

885
00:44:11,907 --> 00:44:15,227
Speaker 20: fantastic forehand, but like just getting the getting the points started,

886
00:44:15,547 --> 00:44:18,667
Speaker 20: no good anything on my back hand. There's a good

887
00:44:18,707 --> 00:44:22,107
Speaker 20: scouting report for anyone who finds himself playing the inn tennis,

888
00:44:22,107 --> 00:44:23,827
Speaker 20: which is a pretty pretty rare thing for me.

889
00:44:24,587 --> 00:44:27,987
Speaker 2: Was it a singles or doubles tournament? Doubles doubles? Who

890
00:44:28,067 --> 00:44:28,787
Speaker 2: were you paired with.

891
00:44:30,307 --> 00:44:35,027
Speaker 20: Newshok Zippie Sport director Clay Wilson, who's actually quite good

892
00:44:35,067 --> 00:44:37,467
Speaker 20: at tennis, so he would have had a good shout

893
00:44:37,547 --> 00:44:38,907
Speaker 20: to win it if he didn't have me on the

894
00:44:39,107 --> 00:44:39,627
Speaker 20: on his team.

895
00:44:40,107 --> 00:44:41,027
Speaker 2: How did they did?

896
00:44:41,067 --> 00:44:43,667
Speaker 20: You just do a random drawer for the team random

897
00:44:43,747 --> 00:44:47,227
Speaker 20: draw probably some sort of some sort of sort of

898
00:44:47,267 --> 00:44:50,427
Speaker 20: handicap system where where a bad player goes with one

899
00:44:50,467 --> 00:44:51,267
Speaker 20: of the better players.

900
00:44:53,147 --> 00:44:54,067
Speaker 2: You'll never guess who won it.

901
00:44:54,107 --> 00:44:55,707
Speaker 20: I feel like this is getting a little bit too

902
00:44:55,747 --> 00:44:57,387
Speaker 20: in house, but you'll never guess who won it Piney

903
00:44:57,467 --> 00:45:00,307
Speaker 20: last year, I'm going to have a guess, okay far away.

904
00:45:00,347 --> 00:45:03,867
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Andrew Alderson's team.

905
00:45:04,307 --> 00:45:07,787
Speaker 20: It was not Andrew Ordison. It was Matt Brown, former

906
00:45:07,947 --> 00:45:11,787
Speaker 20: tennis expert. Of course, anyway, we've gone to in house. Fine,

907
00:45:11,827 --> 00:45:12,627
Speaker 20: now I'll leave it back to you.

908
00:45:13,107 --> 00:45:17,187
Speaker 2: All right, thank you. I look forward to seeing the

909
00:45:18,147 --> 00:45:22,227
Speaker 2: results of the News Talks ABI Sport tennis tournament this summer,

910
00:45:22,267 --> 00:45:25,307
Speaker 2: if indeed there is one. I want to talk basketball though,

911
00:45:25,347 --> 00:45:29,267
Speaker 2: first up this hour, because secondary school basketball numbers are

912
00:45:29,467 --> 00:45:33,627
Speaker 2: through the roof right across the country. On current numbers

913
00:45:33,867 --> 00:45:38,427
Speaker 2: and on the current trajectory, basketball will be the number

914
00:45:38,547 --> 00:45:41,307
Speaker 2: one sport in our high schools within the next year.

915
00:45:41,947 --> 00:45:48,307
Speaker 2: Participation has jumped an incredible sixty one percent since two thousand,

916
00:45:48,707 --> 00:45:53,147
Speaker 2: sixty one percent. Basketball New Zealand CEO is former Tall

917
00:45:53,227 --> 00:45:56,307
Speaker 2: Blacks legend Dylan Boucher. He joins US now, Dylan, I'm

918
00:45:56,507 --> 00:45:58,747
Speaker 2: sure these numbers won't be a surprise to you because

919
00:45:58,787 --> 00:46:01,507
Speaker 2: you track these sorts of things. But why do you

920
00:46:01,627 --> 00:46:05,507
Speaker 2: think basketball is so attractive to our teenagers?

921
00:46:06,427 --> 00:46:08,427
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think it's more than just

922
00:46:08,507 --> 00:46:10,547
Speaker 4: a sport for our teenagers. I think that's a real

923
00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:14,467
Speaker 4: there's a real cultural elements of basketball. When I say cultural,

924
00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:20,187
Speaker 4: everything from you know, it's street, it's fashion, it's music,

925
00:46:20,427 --> 00:46:24,707
Speaker 4: it's it's fashion, it's style, it's you know, the NBA

926
00:46:25,027 --> 00:46:28,187
Speaker 4: is a real big influence globally on this game, and

927
00:46:28,627 --> 00:46:31,107
Speaker 4: kids fall in love with it, and it's easy content

928
00:46:31,227 --> 00:46:34,027
Speaker 4: to consume, So, you know, watching a highlight of a

929
00:46:34,107 --> 00:46:37,227
Speaker 4: basketball game or highlights from a basketball game are really

930
00:46:37,267 --> 00:46:40,747
Speaker 4: easy to consume and really intriguing for people because guys

931
00:46:40,787 --> 00:46:43,467
Speaker 4: are doing things that your average person can't do. And

932
00:46:43,547 --> 00:46:45,627
Speaker 4: I think that's really appealing to teenagers.

933
00:46:45,867 --> 00:46:47,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you're talking about a lot of stuff that

934
00:46:47,747 --> 00:46:49,987
Speaker 2: people can watch and wear and that sort of thing.

935
00:46:50,067 --> 00:46:52,947
Speaker 2: But how has that translated across to people wanting to

936
00:46:52,987 --> 00:46:55,467
Speaker 2: pick up a ball themselves and give it a crack

937
00:46:56,387 --> 00:46:56,707
Speaker 2: you think.

938
00:46:56,747 --> 00:46:59,627
Speaker 4: I mean, I only can think about when I was

939
00:46:59,707 --> 00:47:01,787
Speaker 4: that age and you know, falling in love with Michael

940
00:47:01,867 --> 00:47:03,907
Speaker 4: Jordan and what he was able to do and wanting

941
00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:05,987
Speaker 4: to go out in the backyard and practice it and

942
00:47:06,067 --> 00:47:07,667
Speaker 4: try and do what he was doing. And I think

943
00:47:07,707 --> 00:47:10,907
Speaker 4: it's exactly the same for our young people here. They

944
00:47:10,947 --> 00:47:12,747
Speaker 4: are wanting to go out and try to get good

945
00:47:12,747 --> 00:47:14,707
Speaker 4: at basketball because I think it's seen as a really

946
00:47:14,827 --> 00:47:17,507
Speaker 4: cool sport as well. So it's a sport that day

947
00:47:17,587 --> 00:47:19,627
Speaker 4: going and I really think it's a cool sport and

948
00:47:19,667 --> 00:47:20,987
Speaker 4: I want to be a part of that. And so,

949
00:47:21,627 --> 00:47:25,267
Speaker 4: you know, again, the amount of work that our young

950
00:47:25,307 --> 00:47:27,547
Speaker 4: people are putting into their game is phenomenal. The skill

951
00:47:27,627 --> 00:47:29,867
Speaker 4: level is higher than we've ever seen it. And you know,

952
00:47:30,147 --> 00:47:32,547
Speaker 4: from a very young age now you've.

953
00:47:32,347 --> 00:47:34,827
Speaker 2: Been pretty proactive to a basketball news yell and hopes

954
00:47:34,867 --> 00:47:38,147
Speaker 2: and schools, hoopes and parks now hoops and Mari, you

955
00:47:38,267 --> 00:47:40,867
Speaker 2: must be seeing a flow on effect, are you from

956
00:47:40,907 --> 00:47:41,627
Speaker 2: those initiatives?

957
00:47:42,427 --> 00:47:42,627
Speaker 12: Yeah?

958
00:47:42,627 --> 00:47:45,987
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean we are. Every time we drive past

959
00:47:46,387 --> 00:47:48,547
Speaker 4: a hoop or something that's been installed in a school

960
00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:51,027
Speaker 4: or a park, it's always been used and you know,

961
00:47:51,267 --> 00:47:53,267
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what our the day, there's always someone

962
00:47:53,347 --> 00:47:55,907
Speaker 4: on it. So we're really seeing those hoops that we're

963
00:47:55,907 --> 00:47:58,467
Speaker 4: putting in schools and in parks and in what I

964
00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:01,827
Speaker 4: now being able to be used, to be available to

965
00:48:01,867 --> 00:48:03,747
Speaker 4: people to use. And the goal is to be able

966
00:48:03,787 --> 00:48:07,067
Speaker 4: to make sure there's a hoop accessible within kind of

967
00:48:07,107 --> 00:48:10,147
Speaker 4: like a two kilometer radius of anyone at any time.

968
00:48:10,267 --> 00:48:12,667
Speaker 4: So that would that's the goal moving forward. And we're

969
00:48:12,667 --> 00:48:15,627
Speaker 4: really seeing more and more people that are you know,

970
00:48:15,867 --> 00:48:18,107
Speaker 4: engaging with their kids, taking their kids down to the

971
00:48:18,187 --> 00:48:19,907
Speaker 4: park and shudents and hoops with their kids. And it's

972
00:48:19,907 --> 00:48:23,307
Speaker 4: a really easy sport to get instant gratification by shooting

973
00:48:23,307 --> 00:48:24,507
Speaker 4: it and see and it go through the hoop.

974
00:48:24,787 --> 00:48:27,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic having those available. I guess in the organized

975
00:48:27,987 --> 00:48:30,827
Speaker 2: side of things, whether it's your traditional game or three

976
00:48:31,027 --> 00:48:34,747
Speaker 2: x three, how much pressure are the growing player numbers

977
00:48:34,827 --> 00:48:36,907
Speaker 2: putting on the sport for court space.

978
00:48:37,987 --> 00:48:40,947
Speaker 4: Again, I used I've made the joke that we used

979
00:48:40,947 --> 00:48:42,507
Speaker 4: to say it's a good problem when you when you're

980
00:48:42,547 --> 00:48:44,427
Speaker 4: busting at the scenes, but now it's just a problem.

981
00:48:44,867 --> 00:48:48,307
Speaker 4: We're seeing every region has got either kids from a

982
00:48:48,387 --> 00:48:51,347
Speaker 4: young age, playing late at night, you know, playing games

983
00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:53,987
Speaker 4: as late as nine to nine thirty at night, just

984
00:48:54,027 --> 00:48:55,827
Speaker 4: to be able to get as many teams as they

985
00:48:55,907 --> 00:49:00,307
Speaker 4: have wanting to play basketball in because because of court shortages,

986
00:49:00,787 --> 00:49:04,987
Speaker 4: we're seeing teams having, schools having weightless of kids who

987
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:07,347
Speaker 4: want to play that can't play because there's nowhere for

988
00:49:07,467 --> 00:49:10,387
Speaker 4: them to play. So it is becoming a real problem.

989
00:49:10,987 --> 00:49:12,987
Speaker 4: And you know, we're doing everything we can to try

990
00:49:13,107 --> 00:49:16,147
Speaker 4: to come up with creative ways to ensure that if

991
00:49:16,187 --> 00:49:17,987
Speaker 4: you want to play basketball, you should be able to

992
00:49:18,067 --> 00:49:19,507
Speaker 4: and there should be somewhay where you can go and

993
00:49:19,587 --> 00:49:21,947
Speaker 4: bounce the ball and have a go, whether it be

994
00:49:22,027 --> 00:49:24,627
Speaker 4: in a team setting or in an informal environment.

995
00:49:25,227 --> 00:49:27,347
Speaker 2: What are some of those solutions still and that you're

996
00:49:27,387 --> 00:49:30,227
Speaker 2: trying to come up with, both creative and more traditional.

997
00:49:31,107 --> 00:49:33,907
Speaker 4: Yeah, even things like bringing some of the younger leagues

998
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:36,227
Speaker 4: and playing them outside, playing them on outdoor courts. We're

999
00:49:36,227 --> 00:49:38,987
Speaker 4: seeing more and more schools get those you know, covered

1000
00:49:39,067 --> 00:49:42,027
Speaker 4: in courts if you like, and so how can we

1001
00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:44,387
Speaker 4: use those coven in courts? You know during those winter

1002
00:49:44,507 --> 00:49:47,467
Speaker 4: months where you're still going to be dry underneath it,

1003
00:49:47,627 --> 00:49:49,307
Speaker 4: but it might be raining around you, but you can

1004
00:49:49,347 --> 00:49:52,747
Speaker 4: still be able to run leagues, again changing the formats,

1005
00:49:52,787 --> 00:49:55,427
Speaker 4: being innovative, so using the three x three solutions, so

1006
00:49:56,307 --> 00:49:57,907
Speaker 4: being able to run a couple of games at the

1007
00:49:57,947 --> 00:50:00,907
Speaker 4: same time on one court and those sorts of things.

1008
00:50:00,987 --> 00:50:04,267
Speaker 4: So and again trying to put as many hoops as

1009
00:50:04,307 --> 00:50:07,307
Speaker 4: we can around so you can adapt the game and

1010
00:50:07,747 --> 00:50:10,867
Speaker 4: have a lot of skill format things rather than just

1011
00:50:10,947 --> 00:50:11,827
Speaker 4: necessarily games.

1012
00:50:12,587 --> 00:50:15,707
Speaker 2: So numbers at secondary school, as I say, going gangbusters.

1013
00:50:16,067 --> 00:50:18,147
Speaker 2: When a teenager leaves school and they want to play

1014
00:50:18,347 --> 00:50:20,987
Speaker 2: I don't know, cricket, football, rugby and netball, they simply

1015
00:50:21,067 --> 00:50:23,747
Speaker 2: join a club and play in a league. What is

1016
00:50:23,827 --> 00:50:26,907
Speaker 2: the pathway for basketball players when they leave school and

1017
00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:28,507
Speaker 2: want to stay involved in the sport.

1018
00:50:29,307 --> 00:50:31,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, for us, that's where we're finding there's a bit

1019
00:50:31,187 --> 00:50:33,307
Speaker 4: of a gap in the market and we're really trying

1020
00:50:33,347 --> 00:50:35,507
Speaker 4: to come up with how do we keep people involved

1021
00:50:35,547 --> 00:50:36,867
Speaker 4: in the game. And a lot of times it may

1022
00:50:36,947 --> 00:50:39,067
Speaker 4: not even necessarily be staying playing in the game. They

1023
00:50:39,107 --> 00:50:41,707
Speaker 4: want to stay involved in coaching. So we have our

1024
00:50:41,747 --> 00:50:45,107
Speaker 4: traditional pathways through REP programs and things like that, through

1025
00:50:45,107 --> 00:50:49,547
Speaker 4: our associations, and we introduced this year the Tupou League.

1026
00:50:49,587 --> 00:50:51,467
Speaker 4: So the Tu Poo League was based on like a

1027
00:50:51,547 --> 00:50:54,907
Speaker 4: second division type concept where it was aimed at those

1028
00:50:54,987 --> 00:50:58,827
Speaker 4: that possibly want to continue playing competitive basketball. They can

1029
00:50:59,267 --> 00:51:01,947
Speaker 4: play in their a local six week competition, and then

1030
00:51:02,027 --> 00:51:06,907
Speaker 4: the winning teams from those competitions, depending on which you're in,

1031
00:51:07,107 --> 00:51:09,627
Speaker 4: how many qualify from each region, but come into a

1032
00:51:09,707 --> 00:51:11,987
Speaker 4: national tournament that was played in dned in this year

1033
00:51:12,547 --> 00:51:16,067
Speaker 4: and actually won by Otago. So and it has minutes

1034
00:51:16,107 --> 00:51:18,667
Speaker 4: restrictions on it of if you play in the Sales

1035
00:51:18,747 --> 00:51:21,107
Speaker 4: NBA or has minutes restrictions on how many minutes you

1036
00:51:21,187 --> 00:51:24,147
Speaker 4: can You're only allowed fifteen minutes of court time to

1037
00:51:24,187 --> 00:51:25,867
Speaker 4: play in the TUPU League. So it was aimed at

1038
00:51:25,907 --> 00:51:28,947
Speaker 4: the guys who are possibly not getting as much court

1039
00:51:28,987 --> 00:51:31,307
Speaker 4: time in the NBL, and then those that are wanting

1040
00:51:31,387 --> 00:51:32,987
Speaker 4: to inspire to be in the NBL, but those that

1041
00:51:33,067 --> 00:51:34,667
Speaker 4: actually just want to play at a high level. So

1042
00:51:35,107 --> 00:51:38,067
Speaker 4: trying to create opportunities for those players to continue. But

1043
00:51:38,627 --> 00:51:41,547
Speaker 4: a lot of our associations will have their own leagues

1044
00:51:41,587 --> 00:51:44,587
Speaker 4: running that are aim taggert at those kind of athletes

1045
00:51:44,627 --> 00:51:47,227
Speaker 4: that want to continue playing. Some may be just social,

1046
00:51:47,307 --> 00:51:48,827
Speaker 4: but also some competitive as well.

1047
00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:51,347
Speaker 2: Do you think what you said before about about what

1048
00:51:51,467 --> 00:51:53,427
Speaker 2: the real attraction of the sport is to young people.

1049
00:51:53,867 --> 00:51:57,707
Speaker 2: You know, it's not as as as strictly organized as

1050
00:51:57,747 --> 00:51:59,587
Speaker 2: perhaps you know, if you're playing one of the other sports,

1051
00:51:59,627 --> 00:52:01,867
Speaker 2: do you think that's one of the attractions, you know,

1052
00:52:02,027 --> 00:52:04,627
Speaker 2: So you don't actually want a traditional club set up

1053
00:52:04,627 --> 00:52:06,827
Speaker 2: where people go to the club rooms after of the game.

1054
00:52:06,907 --> 00:52:09,027
Speaker 2: That players just want to go the court, play the game.

1055
00:52:08,947 --> 00:52:11,947
Speaker 4: And that's it, I think, to be honest, I think

1056
00:52:11,987 --> 00:52:14,667
Speaker 4: in today's day and age, everyone's so busy, so you know,

1057
00:52:14,907 --> 00:52:18,387
Speaker 4: like I think, I mean, I really loved the concept

1058
00:52:18,467 --> 00:52:20,507
Speaker 4: of a rugby club, and you know, I played a

1059
00:52:20,507 --> 00:52:22,387
Speaker 4: bit of touch growing up and we'd often played at

1060
00:52:22,427 --> 00:52:24,147
Speaker 4: the rugby club and go in and have a beer

1061
00:52:24,227 --> 00:52:25,827
Speaker 4: after the game or something like that. It was quite

1062
00:52:25,827 --> 00:52:28,467
Speaker 4: a social environment. I feel like people are busy and

1063
00:52:28,587 --> 00:52:30,707
Speaker 4: now than when I was growing up. So I think,

1064
00:52:31,347 --> 00:52:34,667
Speaker 4: you know, the club structure is great, and then it

1065
00:52:34,707 --> 00:52:37,027
Speaker 4: would be awesome. You know, there's some great club structures

1066
00:52:37,107 --> 00:52:40,067
Speaker 4: in the South Island in particular and basketball, but I

1067
00:52:40,107 --> 00:52:42,067
Speaker 4: think people are so busy now and they really just

1068
00:52:42,107 --> 00:52:43,907
Speaker 4: want to give up their time play a game and

1069
00:52:43,987 --> 00:52:46,587
Speaker 4: get back in their car and get home and do

1070
00:52:46,707 --> 00:52:47,307
Speaker 4: whatever they've.

1071
00:52:47,187 --> 00:52:47,467
Speaker 3: Got to do.

1072
00:52:47,627 --> 00:52:50,547
Speaker 4: So I think that informal you know, style is playing

1073
00:52:50,587 --> 00:52:52,987
Speaker 4: into it, and there's all different levels and it's all

1074
00:52:53,027 --> 00:52:54,427
Speaker 4: playing into our favor right now.

1075
00:52:55,027 --> 00:52:58,187
Speaker 2: And just back to the standard of our top secondary

1076
00:52:58,227 --> 00:53:02,187
Speaker 2: schools teams. You alluded to it before. I watched a

1077
00:53:02,267 --> 00:53:04,387
Speaker 2: regional tournament in Palmerston North this year and that was

1078
00:53:04,467 --> 00:53:06,947
Speaker 2: just the regionals, the one below the nationals and the standard.

1079
00:53:06,947 --> 00:53:11,267
Speaker 2: You're right, Dylan is superb. How do you asceas where

1080
00:53:11,307 --> 00:53:12,947
Speaker 2: it is and how much more it might grow?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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00:53:14,387 --> 00:53:16,707
Speaker 4: I think again. I think because of the Internet. I

1083
00:53:16,787 --> 00:53:19,187
Speaker 4: think kids are able to get hold get hold of

1084
00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:22,427
Speaker 4: international players from you know, it could be twelve year

1085
00:53:22,427 --> 00:53:24,507
Speaker 4: old kid and you're watching on YouTube at the skill

1086
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:26,667
Speaker 4: worked out that doing and then they going, oh, and

1087
00:53:26,747 --> 00:53:28,347
Speaker 4: that twelve years old and they go, oh, I need

1088
00:53:28,427 --> 00:53:29,947
Speaker 4: to go practice that. So they go on their back

1089
00:53:30,027 --> 00:53:31,627
Speaker 4: out and they work on their ball handling or work

1090
00:53:31,667 --> 00:53:34,387
Speaker 4: on their shooting. And you know, we're seeing some products

1091
00:53:34,427 --> 00:53:36,787
Speaker 4: of kids coming through now that have really picked up

1092
00:53:36,827 --> 00:53:38,667
Speaker 4: the ball at a young age, fallen in love with

1093
00:53:38,747 --> 00:53:41,027
Speaker 4: it and then just wanted to hone their skills and

1094
00:53:41,347 --> 00:53:43,067
Speaker 4: at a really high level. I mean I'm the same

1095
00:53:43,107 --> 00:53:44,987
Speaker 4: as you. I walk into a gym now and used

1096
00:53:44,987 --> 00:53:46,587
Speaker 4: to walk into high school games and one or two

1097
00:53:46,667 --> 00:53:48,147
Speaker 4: kids used to be able to dunk it. Now you've

1098
00:53:48,147 --> 00:53:50,867
Speaker 4: got you know, nine of the twelve guys doing dunks

1099
00:53:50,867 --> 00:53:52,547
Speaker 4: and in the warm up side in your game. This

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00:53:52,707 --> 00:53:55,747
Speaker 4: is just crazy. And our kids getting bigger. Yes, I

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00:53:55,867 --> 00:53:57,467
Speaker 4: walk in, I mean I'm six foot five, you know,

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00:53:57,667 --> 00:54:00,067
Speaker 4: just under two meters and I walk into basketball stadiums

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00:54:00,067 --> 00:54:02,347
Speaker 4: at like an under fifteen tournament and these kids walking

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00:54:02,387 --> 00:54:04,787
Speaker 4: past bigger than me, you know, at an under fifteen tournament.

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00:54:05,027 --> 00:54:07,827
Speaker 4: And I'm just going these didn't exist when we were

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00:54:07,907 --> 00:54:11,107
Speaker 4: I was coming through, So there's real opportunities also existed.

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00:54:11,147 --> 00:54:13,227
Speaker 4: There were like one real one stood out because it

1108
00:54:13,307 --> 00:54:15,587
Speaker 4: was really tall. But now there's every team just about

1109
00:54:15,627 --> 00:54:18,307
Speaker 4: has a big kid. So we're seeing more and more

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00:54:18,427 --> 00:54:21,387
Speaker 4: size across the board. And the skill level, as I say,

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00:54:21,627 --> 00:54:22,427
Speaker 4: has really improved.

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Speaker 2: Exciting times for the sports. You'd mentioned the Tall Blacks

1113
00:54:24,987 --> 00:54:28,387
Speaker 2: as well. They're in action on Monday night in christ Church,

1114
00:54:28,547 --> 00:54:31,467
Speaker 2: so a chance, I guess for people in that particular

1115
00:54:31,547 --> 00:54:33,907
Speaker 2: part of the country to see the very very top

1116
00:54:33,947 --> 00:54:36,827
Speaker 2: New Zealand players in action this coming Monday night. Yeah.

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00:54:36,827 --> 00:54:39,187
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I think if you've never been to

1118
00:54:39,267 --> 00:54:42,067
Speaker 4: a game and you're wondering what the hype's about. Go

1119
00:54:42,147 --> 00:54:44,027
Speaker 4: along to that Tall Blacks game in christ Church and

1120
00:54:44,347 --> 00:54:46,667
Speaker 4: watch them take on Chinese Taipei and the Sea Basia

1121
00:54:46,707 --> 00:54:50,547
Speaker 4: Cup qualifiers and you'll understand why it's so much fun.

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00:54:50,667 --> 00:54:53,707
Speaker 4: I mean one basketball. The other thing about basketball, the

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00:54:53,787 --> 00:54:55,747
Speaker 4: one thing it is is it's one of the few

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00:54:55,787 --> 00:54:58,667
Speaker 4: sports that's actually betterlive. So a lot of sports when

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00:54:58,707 --> 00:55:00,747
Speaker 4: you watch it on TV, you see better camera angles

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00:55:00,747 --> 00:55:02,987
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Basketball is one of the few

1127
00:55:03,027 --> 00:55:05,707
Speaker 4: sports when you go you can there's not a bad

1128
00:55:05,747 --> 00:55:07,787
Speaker 4: seat in the bill and you get your value for

1129
00:55:07,907 --> 00:55:09,907
Speaker 4: money you get there, and it's actually better than watching

1130
00:55:09,947 --> 00:55:11,947
Speaker 4: it live because of the atmosphere in the stadium. So

1131
00:55:12,267 --> 00:55:13,867
Speaker 4: it's going to be a good crowd on Monday night.

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00:55:14,307 --> 00:55:16,627
Speaker 4: Looking forward to being down there and watching the tour

1133
00:55:16,667 --> 00:55:19,827
Speaker 4: Backs bounce back after a narrow loss against the Philippines

1134
00:55:20,307 --> 00:55:22,467
Speaker 4: a couple of days ago. So should be a good

1135
00:55:22,507 --> 00:55:23,667
Speaker 4: game and really looking forward to it.

1136
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Speaker 2: Good Man, Dylan, Exciting time for the sport at all levels.

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00:55:27,067 --> 00:55:29,027
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us mate, Always a pleasure, pony.

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00:55:29,187 --> 00:55:33,267
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dylan. Dylan Boutcher, CEO of Basketball New Zealand.

1139
00:55:33,267 --> 00:55:35,507
Speaker 2: Form of Tillbacks legend himself, of course, so I'm going

1140
00:55:35,547 --> 00:55:37,187
Speaker 2: to take some calls in a minute. Just before that though,

1141
00:55:37,187 --> 00:55:38,907
Speaker 2: the Tillbacks, as we mentioned at the end, there in

1142
00:55:39,027 --> 00:55:42,187
Speaker 2: action Monday night, Chinese Taipei are their opposition. It's a

1143
00:55:42,227 --> 00:55:45,987
Speaker 2: feb Asia Cup qualifier Wolfbrook Arena, Christy at seven o'clock.

1144
00:55:46,027 --> 00:55:48,747
Speaker 2: Top off tickets a ticket Tech. The other thing Basketball

1145
00:55:48,747 --> 00:55:51,387
Speaker 2: and New Zealand have done around this game has launched

1146
00:55:51,467 --> 00:55:55,987
Speaker 2: a new initiative. They recognize that for some people crowds

1147
00:55:56,067 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 2: can be a bit daunting, and Dylan just talked that

1148
00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:00,507
Speaker 2: about the excitement and the hype of a game, but

1149
00:56:00,587 --> 00:56:04,187
Speaker 2: not everybody loves that. So Basketball New Zealand are trying

1150
00:56:04,227 --> 00:56:07,267
Speaker 2: out a new initiative with They're All in Inclusive Zone.

1151
00:56:08,107 --> 00:56:11,427
Speaker 2: What they've done is reduced the capacity of this particular zone,

1152
00:56:11,507 --> 00:56:13,627
Speaker 2: so there's a bit more space to spread out, and

1153
00:56:13,707 --> 00:56:17,787
Speaker 2: have also reduced the PA levels so it's a bit quieter.

1154
00:56:18,267 --> 00:56:20,987
Speaker 2: The tickets are the same price as bronze tickets, so

1155
00:56:21,267 --> 00:56:24,027
Speaker 2: if you feel more comfortable or somebody in your family

1156
00:56:24,107 --> 00:56:26,587
Speaker 2: does in a less crowded space, then you can give

1157
00:56:26,627 --> 00:56:31,347
Speaker 2: the All Inclusive Zone a go. Details at ticketech for

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00:56:31,387 --> 00:56:34,947
Speaker 2: the feb Asia Cup Qualifier Tall Blacks against Chinese Type

1159
00:56:34,987 --> 00:56:38,827
Speaker 2: A seven o'clock on Monday night. I am very keen

1160
00:56:38,867 --> 00:56:42,907
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts and experiences on the rise and

1161
00:56:43,187 --> 00:56:47,027
Speaker 2: rise of basketball here at eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1162
00:56:47,107 --> 00:56:48,947
Speaker 2: Let's get a couple of calls in a do these

1163
00:56:49,027 --> 00:56:52,987
Speaker 2: figures match up with what you're seeing? A sixty one

1164
00:56:53,147 --> 00:56:57,787
Speaker 2: percent increase in participation since the year two thousand at

1165
00:56:57,867 --> 00:57:03,507
Speaker 2: secondary score level, basketball has just become this juggernaut of

1166
00:57:03,587 --> 00:57:08,027
Speaker 2: a sport for teenagers for the reasons that Dylan mentioned.

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00:57:08,347 --> 00:57:11,227
Speaker 2: Is this what you're seeing? What are your kids playing?

1168
00:57:12,307 --> 00:57:14,467
Speaker 2: And why are they choosing the sports that they are?

1169
00:57:15,947 --> 00:57:22,467
Speaker 2: Why are they choosing basketball over perhaps rugby, rugby, league football, netball, hockey,

1170
00:57:22,667 --> 00:57:25,867
Speaker 2: the other winter sports? Why are your sons and daughters

1171
00:57:25,947 --> 00:57:28,627
Speaker 2: choosing basketball and such big numbers. The other sport I

1172
00:57:28,747 --> 00:57:33,467
Speaker 2: see exploding at the moment is futsal indoor football. The

1173
00:57:33,587 --> 00:57:37,467
Speaker 2: numbers playing that are enormous, and it's got some big

1174
00:57:37,507 --> 00:57:42,227
Speaker 2: parallels with basketball too. Played inside, fast paced, doesn't take

1175
00:57:42,347 --> 00:57:44,987
Speaker 2: up too much of your day, Play it with your mates,

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00:57:45,027 --> 00:57:48,267
Speaker 2: often with little adult involvements, And I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of kids quite like that. So what are you seeing?

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Speaker 2: Is this matching up the numbers, the sixty one percent

1179
00:57:59,387 --> 00:58:02,987
Speaker 2: increase with what you're actually seeing in your own family

1180
00:58:03,147 --> 00:58:06,507
Speaker 2: and at your kids' schools. I also talked to still

1181
00:58:06,547 --> 00:58:09,907
Speaker 2: in there about the big gap in the basketball ecosystem here,

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00:58:10,627 --> 00:58:14,867
Speaker 2: and that is what happens after secondary school. In most

1183
00:58:14,907 --> 00:58:18,427
Speaker 2: other team sports, you can join a club and you

1184
00:58:18,507 --> 00:58:20,747
Speaker 2: know when you leave school and play at a level

1185
00:58:20,787 --> 00:58:22,027
Speaker 2: that suits you, you might want to play all the

1186
00:58:22,067 --> 00:58:29,107
Speaker 2: way up to prems or the first team at that club. Rugby, rugby, league, hockey, cricket, neple, softball.

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00:58:29,387 --> 00:58:32,107
Speaker 2: There are club structures and leagues in place for all

1188
00:58:32,187 --> 00:58:36,267
Speaker 2: of those sports, not quite the same for basketball. There's

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00:58:36,347 --> 00:58:39,627
Speaker 2: no obvious club setup. Yes there are clubs and leagues

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00:58:40,347 --> 00:58:43,027
Speaker 2: which you can play in, but it's a very different

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00:58:43,067 --> 00:58:45,907
Speaker 2: culture than the other sports that I mentioned, where you

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00:58:46,027 --> 00:58:50,507
Speaker 2: have clubrooms and established clubs, and those clubs have connections

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00:58:50,547 --> 00:58:57,027
Speaker 2: to schools through their geography and everything a club brings

1194
00:58:57,107 --> 00:59:00,507
Speaker 2: with it is you know, you join a club for reasons,

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00:59:00,547 --> 00:59:03,787
Speaker 2: you know, on and off the playing field. But maybe

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00:59:04,867 --> 00:59:10,907
Speaker 2: what basketball's doing, it's the future. Anyone working in grassroots

1197
00:59:10,947 --> 00:59:14,507
Speaker 2: sport knows what a struggle it can be. Rugby clubrooms

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00:59:15,547 --> 00:59:18,307
Speaker 2: are very very different places now from what they were

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Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties. Numbers are dropping. It's harder

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Speaker 2: and harder to find volunteers, so maybe there doesn't need

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00:59:27,547 --> 00:59:31,747
Speaker 2: to be that sort of pathway for basketball. I feel

1202
00:59:31,787 --> 00:59:34,547
Speaker 2: like there needs to be something, though, doesn't there because

1203
00:59:34,587 --> 00:59:36,627
Speaker 2: with the numbers the way they are at high school,

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00:59:37,027 --> 00:59:40,827
Speaker 2: it feels like an opportunity lost if those players are

1205
00:59:40,867 --> 00:59:43,507
Speaker 2: lost to the game once they leave school. The numbers

1206
00:59:43,547 --> 00:59:46,067
Speaker 2: at secondary school, at the risk of repeating myself, are

1207
00:59:46,307 --> 00:59:53,747
Speaker 2: massive and the skill level, my goodness, incredible. So what

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00:59:53,907 --> 00:59:56,387
Speaker 2: happens beyond that when you turn eighteen or you leave

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00:59:56,467 --> 00:59:58,427
Speaker 2: year thirteen or seventh formers. We used to call it

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00:59:59,387 --> 01:00:03,547
Speaker 2: what then? Because there's a massive, massive base of this

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Speaker 2: pyramid boys and girls play while they're teenagers. Where do

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Speaker 2: they go? Ready Ken to hear your thoughts on this

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Speaker 2: News Dogs NV one twenty nine talking about of basketball. Hello, Ricado, Hey.

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Speaker 17: Fine, can you hear me? Okay, I can fantastic Hey

1238
01:01:33,787 --> 01:01:35,867
Speaker 17: look yeah now look I was just touching both with

1239
01:01:36,107 --> 01:01:39,227
Speaker 17: you after that conversation that I'll come go get your

1240
01:01:39,227 --> 01:01:42,747
Speaker 17: head list at Dylan Boutia. It's it's huge. It's a

1241
01:01:42,827 --> 01:01:45,867
Speaker 17: massive sport, and I totally agree. It's one of those sports.

1242
01:01:45,987 --> 01:01:48,547
Speaker 17: I believe the reason why kids love it is because

1243
01:01:48,947 --> 01:01:51,907
Speaker 17: it comes in all different sizes, Like you know, you

1244
01:01:51,987 --> 01:01:54,427
Speaker 17: could be you've got three ft, four foot, five foot whatever,

1245
01:01:54,987 --> 01:01:56,987
Speaker 17: you know, and if you can shoot, you can shoot.

1246
01:01:57,067 --> 01:01:59,747
Speaker 17: And I think it's one of those sports that it's

1247
01:01:59,787 --> 01:02:02,067
Speaker 17: not intended by the weather, whereas you know, if you

1248
01:02:02,107 --> 01:02:04,427
Speaker 17: look at rugby, soccer and all those other outdoor sort

1249
01:02:04,427 --> 01:02:08,587
Speaker 17: of sports, you know, if it's running outside and whatnot, etc.

1250
01:02:08,947 --> 01:02:11,507
Speaker 17: Games can get canceled, whereas basketball it is one of

1251
01:02:11,547 --> 01:02:15,507
Speaker 17: those sports that's always predominantly indoors. Yeah, so so never canceled.

1252
01:02:15,587 --> 01:02:18,627
Speaker 17: It's a great team environment. And like what Dylan will say,

1253
01:02:19,227 --> 01:02:22,467
Speaker 17: you know, you know, he talked about sort of going

1254
01:02:22,507 --> 01:02:24,947
Speaker 17: out into those sort of mainstream sort of basketball games,

1255
01:02:25,227 --> 01:02:27,587
Speaker 17: but you can also get that same field at a

1256
01:02:27,627 --> 01:02:30,267
Speaker 17: school game, at a club game. Just by watching it.

1257
01:02:30,387 --> 01:02:34,387
Speaker 17: Just the atmosphere is amazing and just just watching the

1258
01:02:34,507 --> 01:02:37,587
Speaker 17: kids just going out there and just enjoying being a

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01:02:37,667 --> 01:02:40,667
Speaker 17: team sport. It's a combination of you know, an individual

1260
01:02:40,867 --> 01:02:43,147
Speaker 17: you can see individual Williams out there, but at the

1261
01:02:43,227 --> 01:02:46,427
Speaker 17: same time you can see that particular individual or individual

1262
01:02:46,747 --> 01:02:49,507
Speaker 17: players being part of a great team environment in terms

1263
01:02:49,507 --> 01:02:51,947
Speaker 17: of passing the ball around and being able to watch

1264
01:02:52,027 --> 01:02:54,707
Speaker 17: the ball being circulated around the court and getting it

1265
01:02:54,747 --> 01:02:56,547
Speaker 17: going from one end of the one end of the

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01:02:56,627 --> 01:02:58,827
Speaker 17: court to the to the other side and getting it

1267
01:02:58,907 --> 01:03:02,147
Speaker 17: in that in that troops Dylann ad mention. So yeah,

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Speaker 17: it's it's an amazing sport and I just wish you know, no,

1269
01:03:06,627 --> 01:03:08,107
Speaker 17: you see, you see a lot of the physics. You know,

1270
01:03:08,227 --> 01:03:09,627
Speaker 17: back in my day, I grew up in the sort

1271
01:03:09,627 --> 01:03:12,347
Speaker 17: of the eighties and it was always rugby, rugby league,

1272
01:03:12,667 --> 01:03:15,507
Speaker 17: sometimes cracket and football. We need to frown upon people

1273
01:03:15,547 --> 01:03:17,707
Speaker 17: playing basketball because it sort of wasn't one of the

1274
01:03:17,787 --> 01:03:19,947
Speaker 17: main sports in schools back in nowadays, you know, it's

1275
01:03:19,947 --> 01:03:23,187
Speaker 17: always rugby or ruguby league. But now what I'm seeing

1276
01:03:23,267 --> 01:03:26,347
Speaker 17: now is you're seeing a lot of rugby players, rugby

1277
01:03:26,467 --> 01:03:29,147
Speaker 17: league players wanting to get into basketball. Because it's now

1278
01:03:29,507 --> 01:03:31,707
Speaker 17: it's more of a contact sport as well. You know,

1279
01:03:31,827 --> 01:03:33,827
Speaker 17: we used to look at basketball thinking, oh, it's kind

1280
01:03:33,827 --> 01:03:35,027
Speaker 17: of like a girl he sort of sport. You just

1281
01:03:35,067 --> 01:03:37,987
Speaker 17: basketball out. But now if you look at basketball, it's

1282
01:03:38,027 --> 01:03:40,267
Speaker 17: more physical in contacts if you go and drive into

1283
01:03:40,347 --> 01:03:42,187
Speaker 17: the pain, except that you can use your body as

1284
01:03:42,227 --> 01:03:43,947
Speaker 17: long as you didn't think and you don't sort of

1285
01:03:44,507 --> 01:03:46,747
Speaker 17: you know, stretch out your arms or whatnot. But but

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01:03:47,507 --> 01:03:49,267
Speaker 17: and that's why why I think a lot of kids

1287
01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:52,667
Speaker 17: love it is because it's it's a team sport. You

1288
01:03:52,747 --> 01:03:55,747
Speaker 17: can you can be an individual brilliant player, but at

1289
01:03:55,787 --> 01:03:58,627
Speaker 17: the same time, the feel that you get as a

1290
01:03:58,707 --> 01:04:01,027
Speaker 17: team sport when you win or lose or you learn,

1291
01:04:01,467 --> 01:04:04,187
Speaker 17: you know, and you can just practice on your own

1292
01:04:04,227 --> 01:04:06,227
Speaker 17: when you go back home. You know, you got your garret,

1293
01:04:06,467 --> 01:04:08,347
Speaker 17: got your outdoor. You know, you see a lot of

1294
01:04:08,427 --> 01:04:10,747
Speaker 17: kids now, you know, they have a lot of indoor hoops,

1295
01:04:10,787 --> 01:04:12,187
Speaker 17: I mean not indoor hoops. So they had a lot

1296
01:04:12,227 --> 01:04:14,947
Speaker 17: of they buy hoops from Rebel Sports or gave me

1297
01:04:15,107 --> 01:04:17,307
Speaker 17: or whatnot. They put outside of the driveway and they

1298
01:04:17,387 --> 01:04:19,747
Speaker 17: just practicing. So it's an amazing sports.

1299
01:04:19,827 --> 01:04:23,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely great summary, Ricardo and the point you made

1300
01:04:23,267 --> 01:04:25,147
Speaker 2: first of all, I think is one of the most

1301
01:04:25,587 --> 01:04:27,907
Speaker 2: valid and that you don't have to be you know,

1302
01:04:28,067 --> 01:04:30,427
Speaker 2: and yes, Dylan was saying, there's some big guys playing

1303
01:04:30,467 --> 01:04:32,747
Speaker 2: it and girls. Now, you know, size is important, but

1304
01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:34,587
Speaker 2: it's not the be all and end all. You know,

1305
01:04:34,747 --> 01:04:36,947
Speaker 2: you can be five foot and be a great shooter.

1306
01:04:37,867 --> 01:04:40,707
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to be massive. And the

1307
01:04:40,787 --> 01:04:43,547
Speaker 2: team part of it's important too, because even if you

1308
01:04:43,627 --> 01:04:46,867
Speaker 2: are up against a team that has a worldy of

1309
01:04:46,907 --> 01:04:49,067
Speaker 2: a player and this happens you, this happens at all

1310
01:04:49,067 --> 01:04:51,427
Speaker 2: sports people say, oh, you watch out for this player.

1311
01:04:51,827 --> 01:04:56,227
Speaker 2: They're amazing, she's awesome or he's incredible. They cannot do

1312
01:04:56,307 --> 01:04:58,947
Speaker 2: it on their own. They can't. Yeah, they might score

1313
01:04:58,987 --> 01:05:00,867
Speaker 2: the bulk of the points, but you can't win a

1314
01:05:00,867 --> 01:05:04,787
Speaker 2: basketball game by yourself. Got on your Ricardo, great points,

1315
01:05:04,827 --> 01:05:08,067
Speaker 2: well made h at eighty ten eighty George, you got

1316
01:05:08,107 --> 01:05:09,107
Speaker 2: some thoughts on basketball?

1317
01:05:10,347 --> 01:05:13,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, I do, Piney, I'll give someone else to go soon.

1318
01:05:13,267 --> 01:05:14,507
Speaker 12: Sorry for the double diff.

1319
01:05:14,347 --> 01:05:17,027
Speaker 2: On the day. Not a problem, not a problem.

1320
01:05:17,147 --> 01:05:19,467
Speaker 12: Yeah, more time on my hands now without painting. Hey,

1321
01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:22,907
Speaker 12: I think it's outstanding point. I really can mean dyllaing

1322
01:05:23,027 --> 01:05:25,347
Speaker 12: in the team for what they've done with basketball that

1323
01:05:26,107 --> 01:05:29,867
Speaker 12: the best thing about basketball is it's a true multicultural

1324
01:05:29,947 --> 01:05:32,267
Speaker 12: game played by all people from all walks of life.

1325
01:05:32,307 --> 01:05:35,467
Speaker 12: And hey, let's be honest, we're living in a society

1326
01:05:35,547 --> 01:05:37,787
Speaker 12: and the world at the moment where it's probably a

1327
01:05:37,827 --> 01:05:40,227
Speaker 12: bit more devices than we'd like. And I just love

1328
01:05:40,347 --> 01:05:44,147
Speaker 12: the power that sport has rugby included to bring people

1329
01:05:44,227 --> 01:05:47,947
Speaker 12: together on a common footing. And it's awesome, you know.

1330
01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:49,907
Speaker 12: And it's the more people that are out there and

1331
01:05:49,987 --> 01:05:53,387
Speaker 12: active in a world where devices are prevalent amongst kids,

1332
01:05:53,507 --> 01:05:56,787
Speaker 12: the better. And it's fantastic to see the rise of

1333
01:05:57,387 --> 01:05:59,427
Speaker 12: a game that is played by all the New Zealand.

1334
01:06:00,507 --> 01:06:00,707
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1335
01:06:01,067 --> 01:06:03,387
Speaker 2: Look, and you only have to go along. And I've

1336
01:06:03,427 --> 01:06:05,307
Speaker 2: been fortunate enough to do this my own sons and

1337
01:06:05,907 --> 01:06:09,787
Speaker 2: basketball team at secondary school and here in Wellington. They

1338
01:06:09,867 --> 01:06:13,667
Speaker 2: play on a Friday night and hundreds and hundreds of kids,

1339
01:06:15,627 --> 01:06:17,027
Speaker 2: most of them are taller than me, or a lot

1340
01:06:17,067 --> 01:06:22,347
Speaker 2: of them are. But the different types of people, all nationalities,

1341
01:06:22,987 --> 01:06:26,147
Speaker 2: all different shapes and sizes, they're all they're playing. It

1342
01:06:26,267 --> 01:06:28,947
Speaker 2: is utterly accessible to pretty much everybody.

1343
01:06:29,867 --> 01:06:32,427
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's and it's not mutually exclusive in terms of

1344
01:06:32,467 --> 01:06:35,147
Speaker 12: other sports being threatened by the rise of the basketball.

1345
01:06:35,147 --> 01:06:37,827
Speaker 12: I don't think like I think, you know, rugby or

1346
01:06:37,867 --> 01:06:40,227
Speaker 12: cricket or other sports shouldn't be worried, but about it

1347
01:06:40,467 --> 01:06:42,747
Speaker 12: an actual fact. They should be excited because it means

1348
01:06:42,827 --> 01:06:44,547
Speaker 12: more kids are out there, more kids are act If,

1349
01:06:44,707 --> 01:06:47,267
Speaker 12: as you say, Piney, they play Friday night and they

1350
01:06:47,307 --> 01:06:49,627
Speaker 12: may well indeed then play into Saturday. I just think,

1351
01:06:50,147 --> 01:06:53,947
Speaker 12: you know, we've got a really sports and parts of

1352
01:06:54,067 --> 01:06:56,387
Speaker 12: society that are doing a really good job at getting

1353
01:06:56,467 --> 01:06:58,787
Speaker 12: kids out because all the all the skills we've seen,

1354
01:06:58,827 --> 01:07:01,387
Speaker 12: teamwork and everything like that are just are just fundamentals

1355
01:07:01,427 --> 01:07:04,027
Speaker 12: of life. It's great to see a sport thriving, and

1356
01:07:04,347 --> 01:07:06,107
Speaker 12: it's cool to think our other sports can kind of

1357
01:07:06,187 --> 01:07:09,547
Speaker 12: live Verridge around basketball, and here what that means for

1358
01:07:09,627 --> 01:07:11,107
Speaker 12: playing their own sport. I think it's great.

1359
01:07:11,227 --> 01:07:13,867
Speaker 2: Good on your mate, good man, George, great to chat again, man,

1360
01:07:14,667 --> 01:07:16,787
Speaker 2: call anytime. Oh eight hundred and eighty, ten to eighty.

1361
01:07:17,107 --> 01:07:18,787
Speaker 2: Just a couple of points that were made by the

1362
01:07:18,867 --> 01:07:22,747
Speaker 2: previous caller about and George is well there about the

1363
01:07:22,827 --> 01:07:26,707
Speaker 2: fact that it doesn't compete necessarily with the other sports.

1364
01:07:26,747 --> 01:07:29,667
Speaker 2: You don't have to forsake other sports to play basketball.

1365
01:07:29,947 --> 01:07:32,827
Speaker 2: If I again use my own personal experience as an example. Here,

1366
01:07:33,227 --> 01:07:36,027
Speaker 2: a number of the players who play in my son's

1367
01:07:36,107 --> 01:07:41,147
Speaker 2: basketball team also play rugby, also play football. They don't

1368
01:07:41,187 --> 01:07:44,667
Speaker 2: necessarily clash. Yes, of course, you can't do everything, and

1369
01:07:44,747 --> 01:07:48,067
Speaker 2: sometimes there is a clash. In Wellington. Again, there's a

1370
01:07:48,107 --> 01:07:50,547
Speaker 2: lot of first eleven football played on a Friday night.

1371
01:07:50,907 --> 01:07:54,227
Speaker 2: That clash is with senior basketball, so players who are

1372
01:07:54,307 --> 01:07:56,667
Speaker 2: in the first team for both do have to make

1373
01:07:56,707 --> 01:07:59,387
Speaker 2: a choice. Rugby don't have to worry about it. There's

1374
01:07:59,467 --> 01:08:02,507
Speaker 2: no rugby played on Friday nights and Wellington it's all

1375
01:08:02,547 --> 01:08:05,067
Speaker 2: on a Saturday, so a lot of the boys and

1376
01:08:05,147 --> 01:08:07,947
Speaker 2: my son's team play basketball on a Friday night and

1377
01:08:07,987 --> 01:08:10,827
Speaker 2: then go and play rugby on a Saturday. It's obviously

1378
01:08:10,907 --> 01:08:13,187
Speaker 2: different around all different parts of the country, but that's

1379
01:08:13,307 --> 01:08:16,267
Speaker 2: just the experience here in Wellington. The other thing that

1380
01:08:16,427 --> 01:08:18,027
Speaker 2: was mentioned there was the change and I grew up

1381
01:08:18,027 --> 01:08:20,707
Speaker 2: in the eighties as well. My teenage years were the eighties.

1382
01:08:21,827 --> 01:08:25,307
Speaker 2: There wasn't a basketball team at my school, well not

1383
01:08:25,387 --> 01:08:27,467
Speaker 2: one that I can remember anyway, and I think I

1384
01:08:27,507 --> 01:08:31,707
Speaker 2: probably would have remembered there was no basketball team at

1385
01:08:31,787 --> 01:08:37,467
Speaker 2: that same school. Now there are seven senior boys basketball

1386
01:08:37,587 --> 01:08:43,067
Speaker 2: teams and almost as many girls teams. So this rise

1387
01:08:43,187 --> 01:08:46,587
Speaker 2: in participation since the year two thousand absolutely rings true.

1388
01:08:47,747 --> 01:08:50,587
Speaker 2: Basketball up sixty one percent.

1389
01:08:52,147 --> 01:08:56,427
Speaker 6: Hello Calvin, you got athnoon, Jason. I'm just thinking too

1390
01:08:56,507 --> 01:08:58,947
Speaker 6: that the bigger King here in the tron and the

1391
01:08:59,067 --> 01:09:03,627
Speaker 6: CBD area has got a small shooting area fenced off

1392
01:09:03,787 --> 01:09:06,547
Speaker 6: next to the little car park there. But what I

1393
01:09:06,627 --> 01:09:09,107
Speaker 6: wanted to say is it's hard. So I'm eighty three,

1394
01:09:09,147 --> 01:09:11,067
Speaker 6: so it's a bit hard to remember when it did happen.

1395
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:14,547
Speaker 6: But it's a few decades ago on a Friday night,

1396
01:09:15,107 --> 01:09:19,747
Speaker 6: live on the radio, broadcast from some big time competition

1397
01:09:19,867 --> 01:09:23,707
Speaker 6: and New Plymouth they had the basketball competition, so it

1398
01:09:23,827 --> 01:09:26,427
Speaker 6: could be you know, it's hard to remember. It could

1399
01:09:26,427 --> 01:09:29,267
Speaker 6: be twenty years, thirty years ago now and I solictened

1400
01:09:29,267 --> 01:09:30,707
Speaker 6: to it on the radio. It was fantastic.

1401
01:09:31,627 --> 01:09:34,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember as well when basketball sort of had

1402
01:09:34,307 --> 01:09:36,787
Speaker 2: a sort of as heyday. You'll probably remember this as well,

1403
01:09:36,827 --> 01:09:39,947
Speaker 2: Kelvin in the eighties. I only again I related back

1404
01:09:39,947 --> 01:09:42,467
Speaker 2: to Wellington. It's showing my geographical bias. But the Wellington

1405
01:09:42,587 --> 01:09:46,267
Speaker 2: Saints you'll remember them, and games were on Saturday nights

1406
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:49,267
Speaker 2: on free towear television. You know, I remember watching this

1407
01:09:49,747 --> 01:09:51,707
Speaker 2: basketball on Saturday nights on TV.

1408
01:09:52,507 --> 01:09:56,027
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, well this one on the radio Friday nights.

1409
01:09:56,107 --> 01:09:58,787
Speaker 6: You know, it was quite quite a long time ago

1410
01:09:58,907 --> 01:10:01,227
Speaker 6: now I can still vaguely remember, but I used to

1411
01:10:01,787 --> 01:10:04,147
Speaker 6: tune the old radio and every Friday night listen to it.

1412
01:10:04,547 --> 01:10:08,387
Speaker 6: It went for quite a while, but like like some things,

1413
01:10:08,427 --> 01:10:12,387
Speaker 6: it must have faded away. But deep down, deep deep,

1414
01:10:12,427 --> 01:10:16,587
Speaker 6: deep down, I am a netball man, a close cousin too.

1415
01:10:17,027 --> 01:10:20,987
Speaker 6: But I'll tell you what. The basketball that was invented

1416
01:10:21,107 --> 01:10:24,667
Speaker 6: by you know, there was originally stat in America by

1417
01:10:24,947 --> 01:10:29,227
Speaker 6: for the military training Keeping Fit program, and then a

1418
01:10:29,307 --> 01:10:31,547
Speaker 6: few years later netball came from it as well.

1419
01:10:32,027 --> 01:10:34,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Kelvin. Got a couple of other calls

1420
01:10:34,347 --> 01:10:36,067
Speaker 2: to get to mate, but always enjoy chatting to you.

1421
01:10:36,227 --> 01:10:37,867
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in Well.

1422
01:10:37,747 --> 01:10:41,067
Speaker 14: Hi, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1423
01:10:41,307 --> 01:10:44,107
Speaker 19: I wouldn't exactly say I'm a pioneer of basketball in

1424
01:10:44,147 --> 01:10:46,627
Speaker 19: New Zealand, but I'm sixty five and when I was

1425
01:10:46,787 --> 01:10:50,507
Speaker 19: fourteen in the fourth form till Crest High School, Hamilton,

1426
01:10:50,947 --> 01:10:51,987
Speaker 19: I was in the B team.

1427
01:10:52,027 --> 01:10:53,467
Speaker 17: We had an A team and a B team.

1428
01:10:53,507 --> 01:10:55,787
Speaker 19: I wasn't tall enough to be and probably good enough

1429
01:10:55,827 --> 01:10:57,347
Speaker 19: to be in the eighteen but.

1430
01:10:57,467 --> 01:10:59,907
Speaker 12: We played and we didn't play.

1431
01:11:00,227 --> 01:11:01,987
Speaker 14: We played at the high schools, but we had to

1432
01:11:02,027 --> 01:11:04,827
Speaker 14: play through a social league at the YMCA on the

1433
01:11:04,907 --> 01:11:08,147
Speaker 14: Wednesday night, we you know. And but it was a

1434
01:11:08,187 --> 01:11:11,787
Speaker 14: school team that was put together by our pe teacher

1435
01:11:12,147 --> 01:11:13,587
Speaker 14: Dave Norris back in the day.

1436
01:11:14,107 --> 01:11:17,507
Speaker 2: But there was no organized there was no organized secondary

1437
01:11:17,547 --> 01:11:20,467
Speaker 2: schools competition for you to play against other schools.

1438
01:11:21,467 --> 01:11:24,627
Speaker 14: Not in Hamilton, no, but there were schools that fielded

1439
01:11:24,747 --> 01:11:27,787
Speaker 14: teams and we played in the social league. So I mean,

1440
01:11:27,907 --> 01:11:30,627
Speaker 14: but that, you know, there would have been early days.

1441
01:11:30,707 --> 01:11:30,947
Speaker 18: He was.

1442
01:11:31,347 --> 01:11:34,267
Speaker 14: He played for New Zealand, Dave I was.

1443
01:11:35,387 --> 01:11:38,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, I recognized the name. Yeah, I recognized the name.

1444
01:11:38,587 --> 01:11:42,547
Speaker 14: Well, he was the coach and no, we were you know,

1445
01:11:42,747 --> 01:11:45,787
Speaker 14: we we did pretty good as a new school. We

1446
01:11:45,867 --> 01:11:49,347
Speaker 14: were brand new school then and it was a foundation

1447
01:11:49,547 --> 01:11:50,107
Speaker 14: pupil there.

1448
01:11:50,147 --> 01:11:53,267
Speaker 12: And basketball, yeah it was good.

1449
01:11:53,307 --> 01:11:54,427
Speaker 14: I played rugby as well.

1450
01:11:54,467 --> 01:11:56,867
Speaker 17: I was only fourth grade. It was a light little winger,

1451
01:11:57,027 --> 01:11:59,307
Speaker 17: you know, bath but I couldn't take the knock, so

1452
01:11:59,387 --> 01:12:02,507
Speaker 17: I knocked that one on the head after fifth form.

1453
01:12:02,667 --> 01:12:06,067
Speaker 17: But basketball, great game and I still follow it and

1454
01:12:06,507 --> 01:12:09,067
Speaker 17: you know, so yeah, good good stuff.

1455
01:12:09,147 --> 01:12:12,067
Speaker 14: It's good to see. It's really taken off the schools

1456
01:12:12,587 --> 01:12:13,067
Speaker 14: good stuff.

1457
01:12:13,107 --> 01:12:14,867
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I think we can't call you a

1458
01:12:14,947 --> 01:12:18,627
Speaker 2: pioneer then in that regard. You know these days, like

1459
01:12:18,707 --> 01:12:22,027
Speaker 2: I say that, you know, the numbers are huge that

1460
01:12:22,467 --> 01:12:25,867
Speaker 2: every school. I can't imagine there being a secondary school

1461
01:12:26,267 --> 01:12:31,027
Speaker 2: that doesn't offer basketball. Now you know the numbers, Joe,

1462
01:12:31,027 --> 01:12:32,547
Speaker 2: I'll just get you to turn your radio down there

1463
01:12:32,547 --> 01:12:34,827
Speaker 2: in the background that otherwise you'll be having conversations with

1464
01:12:34,947 --> 01:12:37,707
Speaker 2: two of me. One's probably more than enough, mate, So

1465
01:12:37,747 --> 01:12:39,267
Speaker 2: I'll get you to turn that down in the background,

1466
01:12:39,267 --> 01:12:45,707
Speaker 2: which you have. Yeah, got on you, Joe yep, great,

1467
01:12:45,747 --> 01:12:46,387
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

1468
01:12:47,947 --> 01:12:56,067
Speaker 21: Well? Talking them about basketball. My cousin plays basketball. Now

1469
01:12:57,947 --> 01:12:59,307
Speaker 21: you'll know who he is is you're one of the

1470
01:12:59,347 --> 01:13:06,187
Speaker 21: most famous New Zillmers ever. But basketball's on his secondaries four.

1471
01:13:08,067 --> 01:13:10,547
Speaker 21: His name is Kin Williamson.

1472
01:13:12,107 --> 01:13:14,587
Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard of him. Joey's your cousin, did you say?

1473
01:13:15,307 --> 01:13:15,507
Speaker 3: Yes?

1474
01:13:17,747 --> 01:13:21,227
Speaker 21: His mother my wife a first Cozens.

1475
01:13:22,067 --> 01:13:24,667
Speaker 2: So I get the feeling. And I'm just having a

1476
01:13:24,747 --> 01:13:26,267
Speaker 2: guest here. You'll be able to confirm this that he

1477
01:13:26,267 --> 01:13:27,947
Speaker 2: would have been a pretty good basketball player.

1478
01:13:28,747 --> 01:13:33,427
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, but he played cord because he's quite short.

1479
01:13:34,787 --> 01:13:42,227
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be he wouldn't be in the paint. No, yeah, well.

1480
01:13:43,627 --> 01:13:45,747
Speaker 21: Many years. I don't know whether he still plays it

1481
01:13:45,907 --> 01:13:46,067
Speaker 21: or not.

1482
01:13:48,707 --> 01:13:51,347
Speaker 2: Injury, Yeah, I bet you he's never lost the touch, Joe,

1483
01:13:51,547 --> 01:13:53,827
Speaker 2: I bet you he could still. And I know that

1484
01:13:53,907 --> 01:13:56,347
Speaker 2: these teams they often you see them, don't, don't you.

1485
01:13:56,467 --> 01:13:59,067
Speaker 2: They they warm up playing but of football. And I

1486
01:13:59,187 --> 01:14:00,947
Speaker 2: know that, you know a lot of the teams play

1487
01:14:01,027 --> 01:14:03,387
Speaker 2: at the basketball as part of their you know, sort

1488
01:14:03,427 --> 01:14:05,987
Speaker 2: of there as they're mucking around during the week. I

1489
01:14:06,107 --> 01:14:08,387
Speaker 2: bet you Cane can still hit a sweet three pointer

1490
01:14:08,467 --> 01:14:10,347
Speaker 2: from outside the three point line. You know who else

1491
01:14:10,427 --> 01:14:13,947
Speaker 2: is really good at basketball? Was Jeff Wilson, Double International,

1492
01:14:14,187 --> 01:14:17,547
Speaker 2: amazing rugby player, amazing cricketer. But they reckon he was

1493
01:14:17,667 --> 01:14:20,307
Speaker 2: as good at basketball, Goaldie, as he was at those

1494
01:14:20,347 --> 01:14:22,347
Speaker 2: other two. It's annoying, isn't it when someone's good at

1495
01:14:22,347 --> 01:14:25,547
Speaker 2: all those things? No, it's not really, Thanks, Joe, gotta

1496
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Speaker 2: Move've got to get across the Tasman. We'll do that

1497
01:14:27,307 --> 01:14:29,187
Speaker 2: in a moment. Seventeen and a half to two, Adam

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01:14:29,187 --> 01:14:30,147
Speaker 2: Peacock when we come.

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Speaker 1: Back the Voice of Sport on your home of Sport

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01:14:34,307 --> 01:14:38,707
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's

1501
01:14:38,747 --> 01:14:40,787
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Dogs'd be.

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01:14:41,507 --> 01:14:44,027
Speaker 2: Now The asp Classic returning to Auckland this summer. The

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01:14:44,107 --> 01:14:46,707
Speaker 2: women played December thirty through January five. The men go

1504
01:14:46,787 --> 01:14:49,827
Speaker 2: from January sixth to eleven. The place to be in

1505
01:14:49,867 --> 01:14:53,227
Speaker 2: Auckland during the holidays. More info and tickets at ASB

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01:14:53,347 --> 01:14:56,187
Speaker 2: Classic dot co dot nz. Now this weekend we're giving

1507
01:14:56,227 --> 01:14:59,427
Speaker 2: you tickets to get caught side by playing Guess the Grunter.

1508
01:14:59,987 --> 01:15:02,307
Speaker 2: You just have to guess who it is. So if

1509
01:15:02,347 --> 01:15:05,347
Speaker 2: you know who this grunter is, text the word tennis,

1510
01:15:06,067 --> 01:15:08,747
Speaker 2: then your name than who you think the grunter is

1511
01:15:09,267 --> 01:15:11,827
Speaker 2: to nine two nine two. All right, this hour, we've

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01:15:11,827 --> 01:15:15,147
Speaker 2: got tickets to the day session on January the sixth.

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01:15:15,427 --> 01:15:15,867
Speaker 4: Who is this?

1514
01:15:21,267 --> 01:15:24,827
Speaker 2: So that's pretty difficult. Here's your clue. He's Spanish, He's

1515
01:15:24,827 --> 01:15:29,347
Speaker 2: won the ASB Classic twice and his initials are the

1516
01:15:29,467 --> 01:15:36,307
Speaker 2: same as the Radio Broadcasters Association. Text the word tennis,

1517
01:15:36,947 --> 01:15:39,667
Speaker 2: your name and who the grunter is to nine two

1518
01:15:39,827 --> 01:15:43,267
Speaker 2: nine two. Busy time in Australian sport. Adam Peacock joins

1519
01:15:43,307 --> 01:15:45,947
Speaker 2: us to unpack it all. Seventeen wickets have fallen on

1520
01:15:46,067 --> 01:15:48,627
Speaker 2: day one of the opening cricket Tests between Australia and

1521
01:15:48,827 --> 01:15:53,867
Speaker 2: India in Perth Adam, India all out one fifty Australia

1522
01:15:53,947 --> 01:15:56,107
Speaker 2: sixty seven for seven. What's going on?

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01:15:56,907 --> 01:16:00,707
Speaker 22: I don't know. I spoke to my mate Hads after

1524
01:16:00,787 --> 01:16:04,547
Speaker 22: play yesterday briefly and he said, and I asked him

1525
01:16:04,547 --> 01:16:06,747
Speaker 22: the same question, I said, what would that was? Just

1526
01:16:07,147 --> 01:16:09,467
Speaker 22: the wicket was a horrible batting, was a good bowling

1527
01:16:09,747 --> 01:16:12,707
Speaker 22: and he went the ladder. He just said, just elite bowling.

1528
01:16:12,907 --> 01:16:16,147
Speaker 22: And it's yeah, you've got to hand it to both

1529
01:16:16,307 --> 01:16:19,867
Speaker 22: Stark and Hazard in particular for Australia to Jasper Bumrock,

1530
01:16:20,027 --> 01:16:23,947
Speaker 22: my goodness, he just made them look like third greatest

1531
01:16:24,667 --> 01:16:26,267
Speaker 22: the way that he was able to rip through that

1532
01:16:26,347 --> 01:16:29,507
Speaker 22: Australian top order. And yeah, you've got to pay nothing

1533
01:16:29,547 --> 01:16:31,587
Speaker 22: but compliments to the guy about how good he is.

1534
01:16:31,667 --> 01:16:35,307
Speaker 22: He's on these wickets. He comes into his own and

1535
01:16:35,387 --> 01:16:37,467
Speaker 22: it makes you question what end you do with their wickets.

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01:16:37,707 --> 01:16:41,147
Speaker 22: They've got a fast bowling battery that looked pretty good

1537
01:16:41,187 --> 01:16:44,107
Speaker 22: yesterday and you just wonder why they rocked up with

1538
01:16:44,187 --> 01:16:47,347
Speaker 22: those decks against you guys in particular that turned sideways.

1539
01:16:47,907 --> 01:16:53,107
Speaker 22: It's weird, but yeah, for the bowlers and let's be honest, Piney,

1540
01:16:53,147 --> 01:16:55,587
Speaker 22: when when it comes to T twenty cricket, it's batters

1541
01:16:55,747 --> 01:16:59,267
Speaker 22: and they they thrive in that. So maybe it's not

1542
01:16:59,347 --> 01:17:01,267
Speaker 22: a bad thing that there is a little section of

1543
01:17:01,307 --> 01:17:03,467
Speaker 22: the game still reserve for the elite bowlers and they

1544
01:17:03,507 --> 01:17:05,427
Speaker 22: can get the most out of there. Chosen draft.

1545
01:17:05,627 --> 01:17:07,467
Speaker 2: Be nice to see. I'm batting at some point tho

1546
01:17:07,507 --> 01:17:09,187
Speaker 2: wouldn't you wouldn't want tickets today? Three?

1547
01:17:09,267 --> 01:17:09,347
Speaker 9: Here?

1548
01:17:09,387 --> 01:17:09,667
Speaker 2: Would you?

1549
01:17:10,747 --> 01:17:10,787
Speaker 19: No?

1550
01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:14,347
Speaker 22: No, we I think we'll be doing a wrap podcast

1551
01:17:14,427 --> 01:17:17,987
Speaker 22: on Monday out there saying will I talk as opposed

1552
01:17:18,027 --> 01:17:21,907
Speaker 22: to doing one next Thursday. It's yeah, it is disappointing

1553
01:17:22,027 --> 01:17:24,787
Speaker 22: for like you want to see a contest and drawn

1554
01:17:24,827 --> 01:17:26,827
Speaker 22: out a bit. But hey, if the bowling's too good,

1555
01:17:26,867 --> 01:17:28,867
Speaker 22: the bowling's too good, let's.

1556
01:17:28,707 --> 01:17:31,187
Speaker 2: Go to rug beat the Wallabies on a roll wins

1557
01:17:31,267 --> 01:17:34,547
Speaker 2: and successive Test matches against England, then that's thumping of Wales.

1558
01:17:34,907 --> 01:17:38,067
Speaker 2: You reckon, They'll keep they'll keep the Grand Slam dream

1559
01:17:38,107 --> 01:17:39,747
Speaker 2: alive against Scotland Monday morning.

1560
01:17:40,387 --> 01:17:43,867
Speaker 22: Well, talking Tobe for me to be the expert voice.

1561
01:17:43,907 --> 01:17:46,507
Speaker 22: But I had a chance to catch up with Tim

1562
01:17:46,587 --> 01:17:49,547
Speaker 22: Horan through the week and he was saying that people

1563
01:17:49,627 --> 01:17:52,627
Speaker 22: in Australia Rugby not well, are happy if it's one

1564
01:17:52,707 --> 01:17:55,147
Speaker 22: out of two of the next two. Ireland obviously not

1565
01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:57,547
Speaker 22: going to be easy next weekend, but he reckons this

1566
01:17:57,587 --> 01:18:01,147
Speaker 22: Scotland side is going to provide a massive test. They're

1567
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:02,827
Speaker 22: good at the moment and it's weird, isn't it with

1568
01:18:02,867 --> 01:18:05,467
Speaker 22: the whole nations. They kind of they go from like

1569
01:18:05,827 --> 01:18:08,067
Speaker 22: they have two or three years where they're very, very

1570
01:18:08,107 --> 01:18:10,507
Speaker 22: good and then they drop away in their mud again.

1571
01:18:10,667 --> 01:18:13,067
Speaker 22: So at the moment it seems like Scotland's gone through

1572
01:18:13,107 --> 01:18:15,227
Speaker 22: a good period. I did note that Joe Schmant and

1573
01:18:15,267 --> 01:18:17,867
Speaker 22: his team have barely been able to train this week

1574
01:18:17,907 --> 01:18:21,267
Speaker 22: because of the after cold snaps that's ripped through the

1575
01:18:21,347 --> 01:18:23,787
Speaker 22: northern hemisphere and there's been no pitches to train on.

1576
01:18:23,827 --> 01:18:26,667
Speaker 22: They've been training on artificial turf, so maybe the freshen

1577
01:18:26,787 --> 01:18:30,787
Speaker 22: up might do them good. But yes, it's certainly or

1578
01:18:30,827 --> 01:18:32,907
Speaker 22: we spoke about it last week, didn't he But the

1579
01:18:32,987 --> 01:18:35,587
Speaker 22: peph and everyone step in Australia and rugby is certainly

1580
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:36,747
Speaker 22: back after these two wins.

1581
01:18:36,867 --> 01:18:39,147
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Yes, Simon Turan with the All Blacks are

1582
01:18:39,147 --> 01:18:43,667
Speaker 2: playing Italy. Apparently our commentary team over there just trying

1583
01:18:43,667 --> 01:18:48,387
Speaker 2: to source every single jacket, beanie scarf layer that they

1584
01:18:48,427 --> 01:18:51,187
Speaker 2: possibly can. Apparently it's absolutely freezing up there.

1585
01:18:51,827 --> 01:18:55,707
Speaker 22: Yeah, and oddly enough, my son is in Serbia and

1586
01:18:55,787 --> 01:18:58,107
Speaker 22: played a game in bulk area through the week pining

1587
01:18:58,547 --> 01:19:01,387
Speaker 22: of the round ball type and he played his first

1588
01:19:01,427 --> 01:19:05,827
Speaker 22: ever game in snow. So yeah, it's continental wide. What's

1589
01:19:05,867 --> 01:19:08,187
Speaker 22: happened there? So yeah, jackets and short supply.

1590
01:19:08,547 --> 01:19:08,787
Speaker 11: All right.

1591
01:19:08,787 --> 01:19:10,107
Speaker 2: I want to get to the soccer roos in the moment.

1592
01:19:10,147 --> 01:19:12,187
Speaker 2: But first of all, Australia through to the Davis Cup

1593
01:19:12,307 --> 01:19:15,067
Speaker 2: tennis semi finals a two to one went over the US.

1594
01:19:15,627 --> 01:19:16,427
Speaker 2: Was this expected?

1595
01:19:17,787 --> 01:19:17,987
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1596
01:19:18,387 --> 01:19:20,747
Speaker 22: No, I've got to be honest and Layton Hewett went

1597
01:19:20,787 --> 01:19:24,427
Speaker 22: bold with his selection. First up with Party Kokanakas. Who's

1598
01:19:24,867 --> 01:19:27,787
Speaker 22: you know, I'm not set the world on fire this year.

1599
01:19:27,787 --> 01:19:30,867
Speaker 22: He's had some pretty good results. But he beat Ben

1600
01:19:30,907 --> 01:19:32,587
Speaker 22: Shelton and they kind of set the tie up and

1601
01:19:33,027 --> 01:19:36,747
Speaker 22: they went to one. It's look, it's Davis Cup. Light

1602
01:19:37,147 --> 01:19:40,267
Speaker 22: it's all done in four days. Eight teams knockout best

1603
01:19:40,307 --> 01:19:42,827
Speaker 22: of three in best of three set matches.

1604
01:19:43,507 --> 01:19:46,067
Speaker 12: It's yeah, it's not what it used to be. Davis

1605
01:19:46,147 --> 01:19:47,747
Speaker 12: Cup over the course of a.

1606
01:19:47,787 --> 01:19:50,947
Speaker 22: Weekend with best of five matches and five match ties

1607
01:19:50,987 --> 01:19:52,787
Speaker 22: as well, but it is what it is.

1608
01:19:53,187 --> 01:19:53,827
Speaker 12: But they went through.

1609
01:19:53,947 --> 01:19:56,667
Speaker 22: Unfortunately we lost Spain now at the first hurdle which

1610
01:19:56,707 --> 01:19:59,547
Speaker 22: went we lost Raphael and Nadal who lost his last

1611
01:19:59,587 --> 01:20:02,987
Speaker 22: ever match one. He's lost his first ever Davis Cup match,

1612
01:20:03,547 --> 01:20:05,747
Speaker 22: lost his last ever one and won everything in between,

1613
01:20:05,867 --> 01:20:07,347
Speaker 22: so they pretty shovers up his career.

1614
01:20:07,427 --> 01:20:10,267
Speaker 2: Our farmers are absolutely right. Full circle moment for him

1615
01:20:10,467 --> 01:20:13,267
Speaker 2: and circling back to the Football World Cup qualifiers for

1616
01:20:13,347 --> 01:20:16,547
Speaker 2: the SOCCA Rus. I'm just looking at this table just

1617
01:20:16,587 --> 01:20:19,187
Speaker 2: to explain to people. It's a group of six. The

1618
01:20:19,307 --> 01:20:22,667
Speaker 2: top two go automatically to the World Cup. Japan a top.

1619
01:20:22,707 --> 01:20:25,827
Speaker 2: They've got sixteen points after six of ten games, then

1620
01:20:25,867 --> 01:20:29,907
Speaker 2: Australia seven points, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and China all

1621
01:20:30,467 --> 01:20:33,347
Speaker 2: six points. This is up for grabs, isn't it.

1622
01:20:34,267 --> 01:20:37,187
Speaker 22: Yeah, japanas through so they don't have to worry about anything.

1623
01:20:37,227 --> 01:20:39,507
Speaker 22: They're ten matches. You need back to get thirteen points.

1624
01:20:39,507 --> 01:20:41,507
Speaker 22: I reckon all the way that the results are going,

1625
01:20:41,547 --> 01:20:44,107
Speaker 22: maybe twelve's enough that Japan are often running and they

1626
01:20:44,147 --> 01:20:45,267
Speaker 22: can book their place.

1627
01:20:45,387 --> 01:20:45,707
Speaker 6: Right now.

1628
01:20:47,547 --> 01:20:50,907
Speaker 22: We've just been really fortunate. We haven't looked after our

1629
01:20:50,987 --> 01:20:53,707
Speaker 22: own business like we did against bar run through the week,

1630
01:20:53,747 --> 01:20:56,227
Speaker 22: we're one air up, cruising and then bang bang, we've

1631
01:20:56,227 --> 01:20:58,747
Speaker 22: got two two goals against the run of play and

1632
01:20:59,027 --> 01:21:00,547
Speaker 22: we're all of a sudden we have to scratch around

1633
01:21:00,547 --> 01:21:03,827
Speaker 22: for a draw, which we get. But look, we're going

1634
01:21:03,867 --> 01:21:06,947
Speaker 22: to take their business big style in March against don't

1635
01:21:06,987 --> 01:21:09,787
Speaker 22: win that we could be going the long way around

1636
01:21:09,827 --> 01:21:10,107
Speaker 22: to try and.

1637
01:21:10,107 --> 01:21:10,907
Speaker 12: Get to the World Cup.

1638
01:21:10,987 --> 01:21:13,067
Speaker 22: But it's a weird old group because the other results

1639
01:21:13,107 --> 01:21:16,747
Speaker 22: underneath everyone's beating everyone. So at the moment it's still

1640
01:21:16,907 --> 01:21:19,787
Speaker 22: in Australia's hands that have to be a lot better

1641
01:21:19,867 --> 01:21:22,547
Speaker 22: than what they were in moments against Bahrain and also

1642
01:21:22,587 --> 01:21:25,827
Speaker 22: against Oudi Arabia last week. It's frustrating, by its very frustrating.

1643
01:21:25,867 --> 01:21:27,427
Speaker 22: How to key, we're going that's almost true.

1644
01:21:27,707 --> 01:21:31,067
Speaker 2: Almost Yeah, back to back eight goal out ex Actually

1645
01:21:31,907 --> 01:21:34,747
Speaker 2: need to put it into context. They're playing Oceanny a sides,

1646
01:21:34,787 --> 01:21:36,907
Speaker 2: but yeah, doing what they have to do. So yeah,

1647
01:21:36,907 --> 01:21:38,747
Speaker 2: a couple of games away and as you know Oceanny

1648
01:21:38,787 --> 01:21:42,107
Speaker 2: you get automatic entry from now on. So yeah, we're

1649
01:21:42,107 --> 01:21:45,027
Speaker 2: looking forward to March when there's the Semis in the final.

1650
01:21:45,587 --> 01:21:48,907
Speaker 2: In Oceanny, you're qualifying crucially though, Mate, crucially, how's the

1651
01:21:48,987 --> 01:21:50,667
Speaker 2: weather in Sydney today for a bit of.

1652
01:21:50,707 --> 01:21:54,067
Speaker 22: Golf and unite rounds for the A leagues. Twenty four

1653
01:21:54,107 --> 01:21:57,107
Speaker 22: degrees and not a cloud in the sky, so it

1654
01:21:57,387 --> 01:21:59,907
Speaker 22: is a one Sydney weather for one.

1655
01:22:00,307 --> 01:22:02,107
Speaker 2: Brilliant Well, I'm going to let you go out and

1656
01:22:02,267 --> 01:22:04,427
Speaker 2: enjoy that and we'll catch up again next Saturday.

1657
01:22:04,947 --> 01:22:05,467
Speaker 22: Cheers Finny.

1658
01:22:05,547 --> 01:22:08,227
Speaker 2: Everyone on to Adam Peacock Out of Australia seven to

1659
01:22:08,267 --> 01:22:11,027
Speaker 2: two News Talks at B four to two of playing guests,

1660
01:22:11,067 --> 01:22:20,147
Speaker 2: the grunter that is the grunting of Roberto Bautista Agut.

1661
01:22:20,987 --> 01:22:24,987
Speaker 2: Congratulations Michelle ten Hove. Michelle, You're off to the day

1662
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:29,467
Speaker 2: session on January sixth at the ASB Tennis Classic. For

1663
01:22:29,587 --> 01:22:33,507
Speaker 2: knowing who that grunter is, another one to guess. After

1664
01:22:33,787 --> 01:22:38,747
Speaker 2: two o'clock straight after two Australian All Round, Glenn Maxwell

1665
01:22:38,907 --> 01:22:39,427
Speaker 2: is on the show.

1666
01:22:40,427 --> 01:22:44,587
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1667
01:22:45,387 --> 01:22:50,227
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1668
01:22:50,427 --> 01:22:54,187
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1669
01:22:54,627 --> 01:22:55,667
Speaker 1: News Talks AB.

1670
01:22:57,147 --> 01:23:00,347
Speaker 2: The two oh seven Welcome in. We're here till three

1671
01:23:00,387 --> 01:23:03,547
Speaker 2: on weekend sport when Tim Beveridge takes the rains tomorrow.

1672
01:23:03,907 --> 01:23:06,267
Speaker 2: Just a reminder we're on the air at the slight

1673
01:23:06,467 --> 01:23:10,187
Speaker 2: earlier time of around eleven fifteen. When things wrap up

1674
01:23:10,387 --> 01:23:12,427
Speaker 2: in Sheer in between the All Blacks and It's Ille

1675
01:23:12,547 --> 01:23:15,507
Speaker 2: will take over. And tomorrow we want to put together

1676
01:23:16,187 --> 01:23:19,707
Speaker 2: Razors report cards for twenty twenty four. We need your

1677
01:23:19,747 --> 01:23:22,267
Speaker 2: help for this. How do you rate the year? How

1678
01:23:22,387 --> 01:23:24,867
Speaker 2: positive do you feel? Who are your players of the year?

1679
01:23:25,307 --> 01:23:28,267
Speaker 2: Which positions might be up for grabs next year? All

1680
01:23:28,307 --> 01:23:31,587
Speaker 2: of that on an extended weekend sports show tomorrow from

1681
01:23:31,707 --> 01:23:34,707
Speaker 2: eleven to fifteen onwards here on News Talk ZB. The

1682
01:23:34,747 --> 01:23:37,347
Speaker 2: full commentary of the game, of course, is on ZB

1683
01:23:37,547 --> 01:23:43,187
Speaker 2: from just after nine o'clock this hour. Sal GP underway.

1684
01:23:43,387 --> 01:23:46,547
Speaker 2: The new season of sal GP has its season opener

1685
01:23:46,667 --> 01:23:49,307
Speaker 2: in Dubai starting tonight. We'll get you to Dubay. Peter

1686
01:23:49,387 --> 01:23:53,427
Speaker 2: Berlings on the show and also a brand new member

1687
01:23:53,907 --> 01:23:57,667
Speaker 2: of the new Zealand sale GP team, Leo Takahashi. He's

1688
01:23:57,707 --> 01:24:01,827
Speaker 2: taken over from Andy Maloney as flight controller. We'll play

1689
01:24:01,907 --> 01:24:05,787
Speaker 2: guest the Grunza again. Guess the Gruntster has been incredibly popular.

1690
01:24:06,547 --> 01:24:09,627
Speaker 2: Tickets to the asb classic to give away right across

1691
01:24:09,707 --> 01:24:12,867
Speaker 2: the weekend your latest chances. This hour will play you

1692
01:24:13,867 --> 01:24:16,067
Speaker 2: a tennis player grunts and you just got to tell

1693
01:24:16,147 --> 01:24:20,467
Speaker 2: us who it is. It's pretty simple concept. We'll do

1694
01:24:20,547 --> 01:24:23,947
Speaker 2: that shortly. Glenn Maxwell is on the show standing by

1695
01:24:23,987 --> 01:24:27,267
Speaker 2: the chat to us the Big Show, one of Australia's

1696
01:24:27,507 --> 01:24:31,667
Speaker 2: great white ball cricketers. He's with us very very shortly.

1697
01:24:31,747 --> 01:24:34,347
Speaker 2: Your causing correspondence always welcome on the show. Oh eight

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01:24:34,467 --> 01:24:37,267
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is our number nine two ninety

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Speaker 2: two for text messages. But as we approach eight and

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Speaker 2: a half past two, it as time, as we always

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Speaker 2: do it around this time on weekend sport, to bring

1702
01:24:45,467 --> 01:24:49,387
Speaker 2: you up today to make sure nothing has escaped your attention.

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Speaker 2: In case you missed, it is what we call it.

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Speaker 2: We begin in Cleveland, where the Cleveland Browns have braved

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Speaker 2: near blizzard conditions to upset the Pittsburgh Steelers twenty four

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Speaker 2: to nineteen in the NFL up touched in the Browns

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Speaker 2: look you this crowd, nobody's luck. And after the game,

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Speaker 2: the Browns eccentric quarterback Jameis Winston gave us some tremendous

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01:25:22,067 --> 01:25:23,427
Speaker 2: post game color.

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Speaker 5: Lad snow lading snow the Cleveland Brown's got some more WIRs.

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Speaker 2: Baby, that's kidding, Jameis Winston. What a man to perth.

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Speaker 2: Australia put India to the sword at the start of

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Speaker 2: the first cricket Test, taking on everything.

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Speaker 7: Another opportunity for Kawaija at this time if sob result.

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Speaker 16: He's held it.

1716
01:25:48,347 --> 01:25:50,827
Speaker 7: He's held it this time when he's talking about the sun,

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Speaker 7: he takes the catch and on day one of the

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Speaker 7: first Test, Australia, let's got India over one fifty.

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01:25:59,947 --> 01:26:02,987
Speaker 2: Yes, so India all out one fifty having elected to

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Speaker 2: bat on winning the toss. But India then fought back

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01:26:06,667 --> 01:26:10,587
Speaker 2: and have somehow put themselves in probably the stronger position

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Speaker 2: at the end of day one, taken.

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01:26:14,067 --> 01:26:16,667
Speaker 23: Big heads and then you have packed again.

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Speaker 20: It's for Comra delight for India and it's chaos for Australia.

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Speaker 2: Chaos is right, IZI a sixty seven for seven at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day. Meantime, up in the Northern Hemisphere,

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Speaker 2: France offended off Argentina in rugby's Autumn Internationals and Luke

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Speaker 2: Pierce blows his whistle for the end of the match.

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Speaker 2: France utterly dominance in.

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Speaker 5: Their first half, lost a little bit of their shape

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Speaker 5: in the second forty, but they did keep the Pumas

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Speaker 5: at arm's length.

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Speaker 2: And finally to the A League where the Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: women have notched up their first win of the season

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01:26:58,427 --> 01:27:03,027
Speaker 2: during Unite rounds in Sydney against Adelaide Yea.

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Speaker 8: Tanaka COEs White women take it a luction, You're of them.

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Speaker 2: HiT's the back of the map and the relative nuts.

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Speaker 3: On the pod analyzing every view from every angle in

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Speaker 3: the Sporting World Weekend Sport with Jason Pine Call eight

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty US talks.

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Speaker 2: eNB eleven minutes past two on Weekend Sport. Australian cricketing

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01:27:31,267 --> 01:27:33,987
Speaker 2: star Glenn Maxwell has a book out. It's called The

1743
01:27:34,147 --> 01:27:38,467
Speaker 2: Showman and Charts. Has comeback from a traumatic broken leg

1744
01:27:38,947 --> 01:27:41,507
Speaker 2: at the back end of twenty twenty two to being

1745
01:27:41,587 --> 01:27:45,147
Speaker 2: a huge part of Australia's twenty twenty three World Cup win,

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01:27:45,547 --> 01:27:49,507
Speaker 2: which included one of the most extraordinary One day innings

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01:27:49,907 --> 01:27:51,227
Speaker 2: ever played forty hairs on.

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Speaker 24: Their feet and.

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Speaker 5: Legend show unbelievable, familakable thing you've probably ever seen, cricket staggering,

1750
01:28:06,507 --> 01:28:12,187
Speaker 5: absolutely one going what a one and he should not

1751
01:28:12,347 --> 01:28:14,867
Speaker 5: have to walk off the party ship be carried off.

1752
01:28:16,307 --> 01:28:19,507
Speaker 2: What a performance he had two hundred and one not

1753
01:28:19,667 --> 01:28:22,027
Speaker 2: out in that World Cup pull match at the back

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Speaker 2: end of last year. Woven into the story are some

1755
01:28:24,707 --> 01:28:28,227
Speaker 2: brilliant insights into the events and people that have shaped

1756
01:28:28,267 --> 01:28:31,667
Speaker 2: him into one of the world's premiere all round cricketers.

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01:28:31,747 --> 01:28:34,907
Speaker 2: It is a terrific read. Glenn Maxwell is with us. Glenn,

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01:28:34,947 --> 01:28:38,147
Speaker 2: congratulations on the book, your first one. Are you happy?

1759
01:28:38,227 --> 01:28:39,947
Speaker 2: How happy are you with the way it's come out?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Extremely proud of the way it's come out.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of hard work and a lot of

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Speaker 11: time put into it, and certainly very proud of how

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01:28:48,347 --> 01:28:48,827
Speaker 11: it's come up.

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Speaker 2: Can we start where the book starts, after the prologue

1766
01:28:52,027 --> 01:28:54,627
Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing? With your ankle break

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01:28:55,227 --> 01:28:59,107
Speaker 2: November twenty twenty two, freak accident at a makes fiftieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: There's a photo. I think that photo should come with

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Speaker 2: a warning as well. Now that you're on the other

1770
01:29:04,147 --> 01:29:07,707
Speaker 2: side of it, how concerned will were you initially that

1771
01:29:07,827 --> 01:29:09,587
Speaker 2: it would severely affect your career?

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Speaker 11: To be honest, I was really naive to how much

1773
01:29:14,507 --> 01:29:18,907
Speaker 11: damage I'd truly done to my foot and had no

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Speaker 11: idea of the magnitude of effort and time that was

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01:29:21,507 --> 01:29:24,707
Speaker 11: going to have to be put back into rehab and

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Speaker 11: training to I suppose get it back up to speed

1777
01:29:27,947 --> 01:29:30,707
Speaker 11: to even be ninety percent of what it once was.

1778
01:29:30,827 --> 01:29:34,347
Speaker 11: And once I suppose I got on the journey of

1779
01:29:34,707 --> 01:29:37,787
Speaker 11: almost getting back and sort of having those relapses of

1780
01:29:37,907 --> 01:29:40,747
Speaker 11: pain and having to go through the process all again,

1781
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Speaker 11: it was only then that I sort of understood the

1782
01:29:43,787 --> 01:29:48,667
Speaker 11: severity of what I'd done. And Yeah, it's hard to

1783
01:29:48,747 --> 01:29:52,547
Speaker 11: sometimes read back through and sort of remember all of that, but.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I suppose it sort of makes it all part

1785
01:29:55,947 --> 01:29:56,467
Speaker 16: of your journey.

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Speaker 2: How did you navigate the darkest parts of that, the

1787
01:29:59,507 --> 01:30:02,107
Speaker 2: times when you thought, Hey, there isn't a finish line

1788
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Speaker 2: in sight here, I'm not going to be able to

1789
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Speaker 2: do what I used to do well.

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Speaker 16: I to be honest, I never really felt like that.

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Speaker 11: I always thought that there was going to be a

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01:30:10,347 --> 01:30:13,027
Speaker 11: way that I'd find a way through, because there hadn't

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01:30:13,107 --> 01:30:17,147
Speaker 11: been I suppose a hurdle that I hadn't been able

1794
01:30:17,187 --> 01:30:20,627
Speaker 11: to push through overcome, And I'd sort of always been

1795
01:30:21,067 --> 01:30:24,227
Speaker 11: driven like that throughout my career to if you have

1796
01:30:24,307 --> 01:30:26,907
Speaker 11: a roadblock, find a way to get past it and

1797
01:30:27,067 --> 01:30:31,507
Speaker 11: get through it. And I just saw this as another

1798
01:30:31,667 --> 01:30:35,707
Speaker 11: hurdle and it just was probably took me longer to

1799
01:30:35,747 --> 01:30:37,867
Speaker 11: get over it than probably some.

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Speaker 16: Of the other hurdles that I've had in my career.

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Speaker 2: Or r at least jump forward then, because people can

1802
01:30:42,187 --> 01:30:45,507
Speaker 2: read all about your rehab and the endless stuff that

1803
01:30:45,587 --> 01:30:47,067
Speaker 2: you had to do to get right for the World Cup.

1804
01:30:47,107 --> 01:30:49,387
Speaker 2: You got there. I want to jump to your tour

1805
01:30:49,467 --> 01:30:52,947
Speaker 2: one night out of that's okay, Glenn, Pat Coummins comes in,

1806
01:30:53,067 --> 01:30:55,987
Speaker 2: You're seven for ninety one, chasing two ninety two to one.

1807
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Speaker 2: Three hours later, double one hundred, one hundred and twenty

1808
01:30:58,547 --> 01:31:01,827
Speaker 2: eight balls, twenty one fours, ten sixer's the last eighty

1809
01:31:01,947 --> 01:31:05,747
Speaker 2: runs come when you're severely cramping, your body's basically giving

1810
01:31:05,867 --> 01:31:09,867
Speaker 2: up on you. Aaroni and Smith said, the most remarkable

1811
01:31:09,947 --> 01:31:12,987
Speaker 2: thing you'll probably ever see in cricket. And you're right

1812
01:31:13,067 --> 01:31:16,067
Speaker 2: so brilliantly about it. Mate. What's it like having that

1813
01:31:16,227 --> 01:31:18,747
Speaker 2: moment that people will never forget?

1814
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's pretty surreal. I feel like I've had moments

1815
01:31:25,747 --> 01:31:31,307
Speaker 11: throughout my career where I've had flashes of really good staff.

1816
01:31:31,627 --> 01:31:34,827
Speaker 11: I've had incredible teams, that I've been a part of,

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01:31:35,027 --> 01:31:39,027
Speaker 11: to achieve incredible staff and to have I suppose a

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Speaker 11: moment that people relate to or people can sort of

1819
01:31:45,067 --> 01:31:50,107
Speaker 11: say that that was there, where they were moments that's

1820
01:31:50,187 --> 01:31:54,987
Speaker 11: going to be forever surreal and forever something that I'll

1821
01:31:55,027 --> 01:31:57,387
Speaker 11: sort of just pinch myself and can't believe I've been

1822
01:31:57,387 --> 01:32:02,107
Speaker 11: able to achieve something that something like that. And I

1823
01:32:02,227 --> 01:32:04,107
Speaker 11: think to be able to sort of talk people through

1824
01:32:04,187 --> 01:32:07,667
Speaker 11: it and talk through the emotion almost sort of humanizes

1825
01:32:07,787 --> 01:32:12,667
Speaker 11: a little bit as well. To be able to, I suppose,

1826
01:32:13,067 --> 01:32:15,907
Speaker 11: speak about in a way and sort of explain that

1827
01:32:16,947 --> 01:32:18,547
Speaker 11: I was tired and I just sort of wanted it

1828
01:32:18,627 --> 01:32:21,987
Speaker 11: to be all over, and and I sort of had

1829
01:32:22,027 --> 01:32:24,387
Speaker 11: other people willing me through and been able to sort

1830
01:32:24,427 --> 01:32:26,627
Speaker 11: of help me get through that. It wasn't just me

1831
01:32:26,747 --> 01:32:28,347
Speaker 11: on that journey. There was a lot of people sort

1832
01:32:28,387 --> 01:32:31,067
Speaker 11: of helped me through it as well. But it was

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Speaker 11: an incredible night and one I'm very grateful for.

1834
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Speaker 2: I've watched back the highlights just an advance of chatting

1835
01:32:36,627 --> 01:32:38,627
Speaker 2: to you, and the last eighty runs. I mean, you're

1836
01:32:38,667 --> 01:32:40,867
Speaker 2: just standing there, and you know you're not moving your

1837
01:32:40,907 --> 01:32:42,907
Speaker 2: feet at all? Are you just you're just waving the

1838
01:32:42,987 --> 01:32:46,987
Speaker 2: bed at it, but still with there's incredible timing. What

1839
01:32:47,227 --> 01:32:51,067
Speaker 2: was that like, man, that last eighty runs or so well.

1840
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Speaker 11: I've talked about different stages of this. I reckon cricketers,

1841
01:32:55,467 --> 01:32:57,267
Speaker 11: I reckon I've been lucky enough as a cricketer. I

1842
01:32:57,387 --> 01:33:01,307
Speaker 11: have maybe five or six days where everything goes right,

1843
01:33:01,867 --> 01:33:05,187
Speaker 11: everything hits the middle of that, things go your way,

1844
01:33:05,987 --> 01:33:08,547
Speaker 11: and you're able to walk off either undefeated or walk

1845
01:33:08,627 --> 01:33:13,187
Speaker 11: off at the completion of the game. And this was

1846
01:33:13,307 --> 01:33:15,427
Speaker 11: just one of those days where it just lasted for

1847
01:33:15,547 --> 01:33:19,187
Speaker 11: a little bit longer and to a point where my

1848
01:33:19,307 --> 01:33:23,587
Speaker 11: body was exhausted, and I was able to almost back

1849
01:33:23,987 --> 01:33:27,467
Speaker 11: past that point and still be there and still not

1850
01:33:27,547 --> 01:33:31,507
Speaker 11: get dismissed and somehow be there standing at the end

1851
01:33:31,587 --> 01:33:32,107
Speaker 11: of that game.

1852
01:33:32,227 --> 01:33:36,707
Speaker 16: And yeah, it certainly wasn't the way I thought my

1853
01:33:36,827 --> 01:33:37,747
Speaker 16: innings was going to end.

1854
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Speaker 11: I think as soon as I started cramping and my

1855
01:33:39,787 --> 01:33:41,507
Speaker 11: back started going, I was like, well, this is going

1856
01:33:41,587 --> 01:33:44,867
Speaker 11: to be over soon. That's going to have to do

1857
01:33:44,947 --> 01:33:47,507
Speaker 11: a lot of this work with Zants and Josh Hazer

1858
01:33:47,507 --> 01:33:49,907
Speaker 11: would but hopefully I can get us closer and then

1859
01:33:49,947 --> 01:33:52,267
Speaker 11: they can do the job. But yeah, just kept on

1860
01:33:52,467 --> 01:33:55,867
Speaker 11: finding gaps, had a bit of luck, and yeah, kept

1861
01:33:55,907 --> 01:33:56,667
Speaker 11: trying to find a way.

1862
01:33:56,787 --> 01:33:59,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, remarkable stuff. I mean, earlier on in the tournament,

1863
01:33:59,347 --> 01:34:02,107
Speaker 2: you'd smashed a forty ball century against the Netherlands quick

1864
01:34:02,147 --> 01:34:04,707
Speaker 2: fire forty odd and the went over New Zealand. But

1865
01:34:04,867 --> 01:34:08,507
Speaker 2: then you fell off a goal cart and suffered concussion,

1866
01:34:08,587 --> 01:34:11,427
Speaker 2: which meant you missed the Paul game against Things. I'd

1867
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Speaker 2: completely forgotten about that and everything else that happened in

1868
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Speaker 2: that World Cup. How do you reflect on that incident?

1869
01:34:18,787 --> 01:34:19,267
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was.

1870
01:34:20,507 --> 01:34:20,707
Speaker 13: It was.

1871
01:34:20,947 --> 01:34:24,187
Speaker 11: It was a strange incident because because I was concust

1872
01:34:24,307 --> 01:34:25,987
Speaker 11: and I had a bit of memory loss, I had

1873
01:34:26,067 --> 01:34:29,667
Speaker 11: no idea what happened. So I sort of got I

1874
01:34:29,787 --> 01:34:31,427
Speaker 11: was on the bus on the way back, so holding

1875
01:34:31,507 --> 01:34:33,467
Speaker 11: my head, so I sort of I had this nasty

1876
01:34:33,547 --> 01:34:34,747
Speaker 11: cut on the back of my head, and I had

1877
01:34:34,827 --> 01:34:39,427
Speaker 11: no idea what had happened, and so I was just confused,

1878
01:34:39,507 --> 01:34:43,067
Speaker 11: and then got told when we got actually the hotel

1879
01:34:43,187 --> 01:34:45,147
Speaker 11: to clean it up, and they sort of glue the

1880
01:34:45,507 --> 01:34:50,547
Speaker 11: little scratched back together, and I still had no Really,

1881
01:34:51,467 --> 01:34:53,507
Speaker 11: I had no memory of the incident. I had no

1882
01:34:53,587 --> 01:34:56,907
Speaker 11: idea what actually happened, and yeah, it was. It was

1883
01:34:56,947 --> 01:34:59,347
Speaker 11: a really strange feeling knowing that I was cancst and

1884
01:34:59,987 --> 01:35:05,907
Speaker 11: having this like fifteen minute window just completely gone. And Yeah,

1885
01:35:06,627 --> 01:35:09,147
Speaker 11: the next few days are a bit strange. I felt

1886
01:35:09,307 --> 01:35:13,467
Speaker 11: all sorts of range of emotions and then sort of

1887
01:35:13,547 --> 01:35:16,107
Speaker 11: felt a bit of frustration that I was missing out

1888
01:35:16,107 --> 01:35:17,547
Speaker 11: of the game and I was out for a period

1889
01:35:17,547 --> 01:35:20,427
Speaker 11: of time and just decided to do everything possible that

1890
01:35:20,507 --> 01:35:22,747
Speaker 11: I could to get ready for that Afghanistan game and

1891
01:35:22,867 --> 01:35:24,427
Speaker 11: make sure I didn't miss anymore.

1892
01:35:25,387 --> 01:35:29,427
Speaker 2: You won the World Cup in twenty fifteen, was twenty

1893
01:35:29,467 --> 01:35:31,467
Speaker 2: twenty three a bit more special?

1894
01:35:31,507 --> 01:35:31,627
Speaker 16: Though?

1895
01:35:31,627 --> 01:35:34,867
Speaker 2: I mean, you right so vividly about it. Was there

1896
01:35:34,947 --> 01:35:37,347
Speaker 2: something a bit more special about winning it on twenty

1897
01:35:37,427 --> 01:35:37,867
Speaker 2: twenty three?

1898
01:35:39,027 --> 01:35:42,107
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think about how much doubts there were and

1899
01:35:42,307 --> 01:35:45,027
Speaker 11: how the World Cup was sort of set up to

1900
01:35:45,147 --> 01:35:50,507
Speaker 11: be India's great triumph. I think the fact that there

1901
01:35:50,587 --> 01:35:52,347
Speaker 11: was a lot of things against US. I think the

1902
01:35:52,707 --> 01:35:54,947
Speaker 11: two games that we started off we played against probably

1903
01:35:54,987 --> 01:35:59,267
Speaker 11: the two other favorites in India and South Africa. Losing

1904
01:35:59,307 --> 01:36:01,147
Speaker 11: those two and to sort of come back from there

1905
01:36:01,227 --> 01:36:04,347
Speaker 11: and win the rest of the games was something that

1906
01:36:04,547 --> 01:36:07,547
Speaker 11: was pretty incredible amazing to be a part of. And

1907
01:36:08,147 --> 01:36:10,627
Speaker 11: there were so many doubts, especially from back home after

1908
01:36:10,667 --> 01:36:12,867
Speaker 11: those first two games, that we were in disarray. There

1909
01:36:12,947 --> 01:36:17,507
Speaker 11: was turmoil and we'd hit the panic button and it

1910
01:36:17,627 --> 01:36:20,507
Speaker 11: was now never and we just were able to find

1911
01:36:20,547 --> 01:36:24,627
Speaker 11: a way for the rest of the tournament and once

1912
01:36:24,867 --> 01:36:27,667
Speaker 11: we got to I suppose that that final day there

1913
01:36:27,747 --> 01:36:31,187
Speaker 11: was obviously only one hurdle, and it was the home

1914
01:36:31,467 --> 01:36:34,947
Speaker 11: the home country and India and against all their fans,

1915
01:36:35,227 --> 01:36:39,067
Speaker 11: a sea of blue, and it was supposed to be

1916
01:36:39,227 --> 01:36:43,787
Speaker 11: their final triumph and their big celebration, and to I

1917
01:36:43,827 --> 01:36:50,587
Speaker 11: suppose upset that have a brilliant final where Pat Cummins masterminded.

1918
01:36:52,187 --> 01:36:55,907
Speaker 11: I suppose brilliant tactical changes throughout that whole whole innings

1919
01:36:57,587 --> 01:36:59,187
Speaker 11: was just made it all the more special.

1920
01:37:00,427 --> 01:37:02,987
Speaker 2: Another underlying theme in the book is is your relative

1921
01:37:03,107 --> 01:37:05,787
Speaker 2: lack of red bull cricket for Australia. You've played over

1922
01:37:05,827 --> 01:37:08,427
Speaker 2: to hundred and sixty white ball matches, just the seven

1923
01:37:08,467 --> 01:37:12,147
Speaker 2: tiers matches, nonsense, twenty seventeen, none at home. Do you

1924
01:37:12,227 --> 01:37:15,107
Speaker 2: still harbor red ball ambitions for Australia.

1925
01:37:16,147 --> 01:37:16,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, I certainly do.

1926
01:37:17,107 --> 01:37:20,307
Speaker 11: There's a tour coming up to Sri Lanka at the

1927
01:37:20,627 --> 01:37:24,747
Speaker 11: back end of our summer and I'm certainly keen to

1928
01:37:24,787 --> 01:37:27,027
Speaker 11: put my hand up for that. It's also in the

1929
01:37:27,107 --> 01:37:29,467
Speaker 11: lead up to the Champions Trophy, so there's going to

1930
01:37:29,467 --> 01:37:32,347
Speaker 11: be a block of cricket there with the Australian side

1931
01:37:32,387 --> 01:37:33,987
Speaker 11: where I'm hoping i'm involved, and.

1932
01:37:35,467 --> 01:37:38,467
Speaker 16: Who knows what that squad's going to look like.

1933
01:37:38,627 --> 01:37:42,187
Speaker 11: The conditions in schril Anka are extremely different to anything

1934
01:37:42,227 --> 01:37:45,067
Speaker 11: we have in Australia, and I'm sure that squad's going

1935
01:37:45,107 --> 01:37:48,827
Speaker 11: to look completely different to what our current national side

1936
01:37:48,907 --> 01:37:51,147
Speaker 11: looks like, and the structure of the team's going to

1937
01:37:51,187 --> 01:37:56,027
Speaker 11: be completely different as well. So looking forward, I'd love

1938
01:37:56,067 --> 01:37:58,587
Speaker 11: to be a part of that, but if I do

1939
01:37:58,707 --> 01:38:00,427
Speaker 11: miss out in selection, it's probably not going to.

1940
01:38:02,107 --> 01:38:03,987
Speaker 16: Define how my career is being.

1941
01:38:04,547 --> 01:38:06,067
Speaker 2: Just want to ask you about a couple of incidents

1942
01:38:06,547 --> 01:38:08,227
Speaker 2: matches on the side of the testament. One of my

1943
01:38:08,267 --> 01:38:09,787
Speaker 2: colleagues found out I was chatting to you and he

1944
01:38:09,787 --> 01:38:11,827
Speaker 2: said you got asked him about the group game at

1945
01:38:11,867 --> 01:38:14,547
Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen World Cup Eden Park. You guys all

1946
01:38:14,587 --> 01:38:17,947
Speaker 2: out one fifty odd, we're cruising one thirty one for four,

1947
01:38:18,347 --> 01:38:19,787
Speaker 2: then you get Corey Anderson out and all of a

1948
01:38:19,827 --> 01:38:22,067
Speaker 2: sudden we lose five for fifteen. Treat Bolt comes in

1949
01:38:22,507 --> 01:38:25,187
Speaker 2: to tooin Kane Williamson, and you famously gave it the

1950
01:38:25,347 --> 01:38:28,267
Speaker 2: choke brilliantly to our crowd. Do you remember that.

1951
01:38:29,107 --> 01:38:32,467
Speaker 11: I remember being on that side of the ground for

1952
01:38:33,627 --> 01:38:37,867
Speaker 11: I reckon fifteen O's before that, and I was just

1953
01:38:38,067 --> 01:38:41,587
Speaker 11: coping it relentlessly. And then I went back out there

1954
01:38:41,667 --> 01:38:44,387
Speaker 11: when the I think it was the ninth wicket was

1955
01:38:44,467 --> 01:38:47,707
Speaker 11: lost and they were dead silent and they were just

1956
01:38:47,787 --> 01:38:51,227
Speaker 11: staring at me, and I was like, Jesus gone quiet

1957
01:38:51,307 --> 01:38:54,707
Speaker 11: over here. And I did that, and oh my god,

1958
01:38:54,867 --> 01:38:59,267
Speaker 11: I just had instant regrets, Like just instant, I just

1959
01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:02,427
Speaker 11: when the things you do when you're young and stupid

1960
01:39:03,627 --> 01:39:05,787
Speaker 11: around the crowd. But to be fair, the crowd took

1961
01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:08,147
Speaker 11: it really well. They actually do it. They gave it

1962
01:39:08,267 --> 01:39:10,347
Speaker 11: back and end of the game were sort of like

1963
01:39:10,507 --> 01:39:12,427
Speaker 11: I gave him clap and said that it was pretty

1964
01:39:12,467 --> 01:39:14,467
Speaker 11: cool to be a part of and but.

1965
01:39:14,547 --> 01:39:16,827
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's just one of those dumb things you're doing younger.

1966
01:39:16,907 --> 01:39:19,707
Speaker 11: And I hadn't I don't know first thing that popped

1967
01:39:19,747 --> 01:39:23,107
Speaker 11: in my mind that they were choking, And after all

1968
01:39:23,187 --> 01:39:25,627
Speaker 11: the grief I've been coppying for the previous overs, I

1969
01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:27,107
Speaker 11: thought it was a good chance to get it back,

1970
01:39:27,187 --> 01:39:29,427
Speaker 11: and then came and just goes bang and hits it

1971
01:39:29,507 --> 01:39:30,627
Speaker 11: for six and it's game over.

1972
01:39:31,067 --> 01:39:34,067
Speaker 2: No brilliant. I think all the reactions just probably helped

1973
01:39:34,067 --> 01:39:36,947
Speaker 2: that we won, but all the reaction afterwards was just brilliant,

1974
01:39:36,947 --> 01:39:38,467
Speaker 2: the fact that you could give it but also take

1975
01:39:38,507 --> 01:39:40,587
Speaker 2: it as well. The other one, other one was Wellington

1976
01:39:40,867 --> 01:39:43,307
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. You smashed one of the yellow

1977
01:39:43,387 --> 01:39:47,747
Speaker 2: seats at Wellington Stadium and the studium manager at the

1978
01:39:47,747 --> 01:39:49,307
Speaker 2: time got you to sign it auctioned it off for

1979
01:39:49,747 --> 01:39:51,027
Speaker 2: a charity. Do you remember that one?

1980
01:39:51,627 --> 01:39:51,827
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1981
01:39:51,867 --> 01:39:55,067
Speaker 16: I do, I remember that was was that off one mate?

1982
01:39:55,387 --> 01:39:58,187
Speaker 2: There might have been off Jimmy Nishan bound to have been.

1983
01:39:58,547 --> 01:39:59,747
Speaker 9: Oh, I hope it was.

1984
01:40:01,587 --> 01:40:03,347
Speaker 11: I got him to sign. I got him to sign

1985
01:40:03,387 --> 01:40:04,987
Speaker 11: one of his shirts and I had I think it

1986
01:40:05,067 --> 01:40:09,107
Speaker 11: was signed like four four six four four six four or.

1987
01:40:09,107 --> 01:40:09,467
Speaker 16: Something like that.

1988
01:40:09,667 --> 01:40:14,907
Speaker 11: Brilliant, But yeah, that was a strange series that I think.

1989
01:40:14,947 --> 01:40:17,907
Speaker 11: That was one of our first ones post covid Or.

1990
01:40:18,547 --> 01:40:22,867
Speaker 11: We definitely did a We did a quarantine I think

1991
01:40:22,907 --> 01:40:25,347
Speaker 11: on the way over to New Zealand, which looking back,

1992
01:40:25,347 --> 01:40:27,627
Speaker 11: scenes ridiculous. It's just literally just jumping over the back

1993
01:40:27,667 --> 01:40:29,507
Speaker 11: fence and going to see our neighbors, and.

1994
01:40:31,507 --> 01:40:34,067
Speaker 16: Yeah too, have that series in front of.

1995
01:40:34,147 --> 01:40:37,547
Speaker 11: No one, especially after all our history and how much

1996
01:40:37,667 --> 01:40:40,867
Speaker 11: the crowd gets into those contests. That felt like a

1997
01:40:40,907 --> 01:40:42,507
Speaker 11: bit of a shame that we were playing in front

1998
01:40:42,507 --> 01:40:46,347
Speaker 11: of no crowds. And I certainly remember that series being

1999
01:40:46,347 --> 01:40:47,307
Speaker 11: a bit of a strange one.

2000
01:40:48,107 --> 01:40:51,987
Speaker 2: And just something else you write about twenty nineteen, the

2001
01:40:52,107 --> 01:40:56,947
Speaker 2: indefinite break you took from cricket Streets anxiety depression. How

2002
01:40:56,987 --> 01:40:58,427
Speaker 2: do you reflect on that time in your life.

2003
01:41:00,947 --> 01:41:04,787
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's obviously a difficult time, but as I stress

2004
01:41:04,827 --> 01:41:07,547
Speaker 11: in the book, there's probably been the moments throughout my

2005
01:41:07,667 --> 01:41:10,747
Speaker 11: career that I wasn't able to identify what was going

2006
01:41:10,827 --> 01:41:14,827
Speaker 11: on in my brain and what I now know to

2007
01:41:14,907 --> 01:41:18,787
Speaker 11: be clinical signs of what I was going through, and

2008
01:41:20,587 --> 01:41:25,867
Speaker 11: I suppose to be able to sign it, assign it

2009
01:41:25,947 --> 01:41:29,027
Speaker 11: a name, and assign it a place that I now

2010
01:41:29,147 --> 01:41:31,667
Speaker 11: know how to identify it and how.

2011
01:41:31,587 --> 01:41:32,387
Speaker 16: To deal with it and.

2012
01:41:34,107 --> 01:41:36,507
Speaker 11: Adjust to life with it. It's not going to completely

2013
01:41:36,547 --> 01:41:38,427
Speaker 11: disappear out of my life. It's always going to be

2014
01:41:38,467 --> 01:41:42,147
Speaker 11: something I'm continually working on, and it had to come

2015
01:41:42,187 --> 01:41:45,387
Speaker 11: to a head at some stage, and I'm certainly lucky.

2016
01:41:45,427 --> 01:41:47,267
Speaker 16: I had great people around me and I was able

2017
01:41:47,307 --> 01:41:48,347
Speaker 16: to come back to the sport.

2018
01:41:48,427 --> 01:41:51,467
Speaker 11: I know there's been people that have had it and

2019
01:41:51,787 --> 01:41:53,707
Speaker 11: gone away and not been able to come back, and

2020
01:41:53,787 --> 01:41:56,347
Speaker 11: I was extremely lucky to have the support around me,

2021
01:41:57,467 --> 01:41:59,107
Speaker 11: put some things in place and to be able to

2022
01:41:59,147 --> 01:42:01,187
Speaker 11: come back. And I suppose play the game that I

2023
01:42:01,307 --> 01:42:02,307
Speaker 11: grew up loving.

2024
01:42:04,067 --> 01:42:05,747
Speaker 16: To be able to. I suppose get through it and

2025
01:42:06,467 --> 01:42:09,907
Speaker 16: find a way to I suppose play through it as well.

2026
01:42:10,507 --> 01:42:12,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just one example of many in the book

2027
01:42:13,227 --> 01:42:16,187
Speaker 2: of the roller coaster that your career has been. Glennet.

2028
01:42:16,307 --> 01:42:17,987
Speaker 2: Like I say, it's a cracking reader. I hope you

2029
01:42:18,027 --> 01:42:20,227
Speaker 2: sell heaps of these. How's your hamstring? By the way,

2030
01:42:20,227 --> 01:42:21,027
Speaker 2: you're gonna be okay.

2031
01:42:21,827 --> 01:42:22,627
Speaker 16: Yeah, it should be all right.

2032
01:42:22,707 --> 01:42:26,267
Speaker 11: It's just probably a little bit older, and it's going

2033
01:42:26,307 --> 01:42:28,787
Speaker 11: to probably take me a little bit longer to be

2034
01:42:28,867 --> 01:42:31,387
Speaker 11: one hundred percent. I think if I had done this

2035
01:42:31,507 --> 01:42:33,307
Speaker 11: ten years ago, I would have said I'm back playing

2036
01:42:33,387 --> 01:42:35,907
Speaker 11: next week, but probably going to be a bit more

2037
01:42:35,987 --> 01:42:38,707
Speaker 11: cautious with this one, especially with what's to come at

2038
01:42:38,707 --> 01:42:41,027
Speaker 11: the back end of the summer. So hopefully you'll be

2039
01:42:41,147 --> 01:42:44,707
Speaker 11: back in a couple of weeks. But I'm in no

2040
01:42:44,987 --> 01:42:46,027
Speaker 11: real rush at the moment.

2041
01:42:46,427 --> 01:42:48,347
Speaker 2: Good Man again, congrats on the book. I hope you

2042
01:42:48,387 --> 01:42:49,987
Speaker 2: sell heaps. Thanks for having a chat to us across

2043
01:42:49,987 --> 01:42:50,467
Speaker 2: New Zealand.

2044
01:42:50,947 --> 01:42:51,587
Speaker 16: Thanks very much.

2045
01:42:51,707 --> 01:42:53,667
Speaker 2: Cheers, No, thank you, Glenn Glenn Maxwell.

2046
01:42:53,707 --> 01:42:53,827
Speaker 6: There.

2047
01:42:53,907 --> 01:42:56,147
Speaker 2: The book's called The Showman. I had the chance to

2048
01:42:56,467 --> 01:42:58,867
Speaker 2: read an advanced copy. It's really good, really really good.

2049
01:42:59,947 --> 01:43:04,107
Speaker 2: And yes, that incident back at Eden Park in twenty fifteen,

2050
01:43:04,427 --> 01:43:06,347
Speaker 2: I remember that so vividly, so much about it. That

2051
01:43:06,587 --> 01:43:09,107
Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup stands out to me. For that game

2052
01:43:09,227 --> 01:43:12,387
Speaker 2: when Trent Bolt basically knocked them over for one point fifty,

2053
01:43:12,467 --> 01:43:17,347
Speaker 2: we're cruising, we lose five for not many and yeah,

2054
01:43:17,387 --> 01:43:21,427
Speaker 2: Glenn Maxwell giving it the choke to the fans, what

2055
01:43:21,587 --> 01:43:24,947
Speaker 2: a great, great opportunity to as perspective on that, they

2056
01:43:24,987 --> 01:43:27,547
Speaker 2: of course had the last laugh even though Came Williamson

2057
01:43:27,587 --> 01:43:29,507
Speaker 2: won that game. They went on to win that Cricket

2058
01:43:29,507 --> 01:43:31,427
Speaker 2: World Cup and the twenty twenty three to one as well,

2059
01:43:31,427 --> 01:43:33,907
Speaker 2: which forms a big part of this book, The Showman

2060
01:43:34,147 --> 01:43:38,467
Speaker 2: by Glenn Maxwell. To twenty seven on Weekend Sport will

2061
01:43:38,467 --> 01:43:40,587
Speaker 2: take a break. When we come back, it's to Dubai

2062
01:43:40,947 --> 01:43:45,027
Speaker 2: and to the opening event of the New Sale GP season.

2063
01:43:45,867 --> 01:43:49,747
Speaker 2: The second stop this season is Auckland in the middle

2064
01:43:49,747 --> 01:43:52,987
Speaker 2: of January, but they start tonight in Dubai. Peter Burling

2065
01:43:53,067 --> 01:43:53,387
Speaker 2: after this.

2066
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2067
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2070
01:44:08,947 --> 01:44:11,307
Speaker 2: Going to play guest the Grunter with the ASB Tennis

2071
01:44:11,307 --> 01:44:15,227
Speaker 2: Classic very shortly, but the twenty twenty five Sale GP

2072
01:44:15,467 --> 01:44:18,747
Speaker 2: season kicks off and du buy this weekend. Black Foyl's

2073
01:44:18,827 --> 01:44:21,587
Speaker 2: co CEO and driver, Peter Burling, is with us out

2074
01:44:21,627 --> 01:44:24,187
Speaker 2: of Dubai. Peter, thanks for taking the time. It's only

2075
01:44:24,227 --> 01:44:27,507
Speaker 2: a month or so since you retained the America's Cup

2076
01:44:27,707 --> 01:44:30,547
Speaker 2: off the coast of Barcelona. How long were we able

2077
01:44:30,587 --> 01:44:33,267
Speaker 2: to celebrate and enjoy that before switching your focus to

2078
01:44:33,547 --> 01:44:34,467
Speaker 2: Sale GP again.

2079
01:44:35,387 --> 01:44:38,267
Speaker 25: Yeah, we had a you know, an amazing celebration in Barcelona,

2080
01:44:38,427 --> 01:44:43,627
Speaker 25: and yeah, what a special victory that was, you know

2081
01:44:43,707 --> 01:44:45,787
Speaker 25: for me. Since end, it's actually been a little bit

2082
01:44:45,787 --> 01:44:48,187
Speaker 25: of time off with the family. It's always incredible when

2083
01:44:48,187 --> 01:44:49,787
Speaker 25: you get to the end of those events, just.

2084
01:44:49,907 --> 01:44:52,227
Speaker 13: How tired you actually are.

2085
01:44:53,147 --> 01:44:55,227
Speaker 25: So yeah, managed to have a little bit of time

2086
01:44:55,227 --> 01:44:56,747
Speaker 25: off in Barcelona and then do a little bit of

2087
01:44:56,787 --> 01:45:00,387
Speaker 25: trip around with the family and then yeah, looking forward

2088
01:45:00,427 --> 01:45:02,747
Speaker 25: to to getting home over and actually made it home

2089
01:45:02,827 --> 01:45:05,467
Speaker 25: yet after that's looking forward to getting home after this

2090
01:45:05,547 --> 01:45:07,507
Speaker 25: weekend and yeah, it's been able to time and in

2091
01:45:07,587 --> 01:45:08,267
Speaker 25: deed over the summer.

2092
01:45:08,507 --> 01:45:10,547
Speaker 2: All right, just before we move on to sal GP.

2093
01:45:10,667 --> 01:45:12,667
Speaker 2: How do you reflect on your success off the coast

2094
01:45:12,707 --> 01:45:15,307
Speaker 2: of Barcelona? You know, how do you how will you

2095
01:45:15,427 --> 01:45:18,827
Speaker 2: remember you know, going back to back to back.

2096
01:45:20,987 --> 01:45:23,827
Speaker 25: I think it's just an amazing team effort to see

2097
01:45:23,867 --> 01:45:28,867
Speaker 25: everything come together. It's, yeah, a culmination of so much

2098
01:45:28,867 --> 01:45:31,667
Speaker 25: hard work for so many people, you know, over over

2099
01:45:31,707 --> 01:45:32,547
Speaker 25: a long period of time.

2100
01:45:33,147 --> 01:45:36,147
Speaker 13: So yeah, just some some incredibly special memories there.

2101
01:45:36,187 --> 01:45:37,507
Speaker 16: But you know it's.

2102
01:45:39,107 --> 01:45:41,027
Speaker 13: Yeah, something that you have forever.

2103
01:45:41,227 --> 01:45:43,307
Speaker 25: But yeah, this weekend we're looking forward to getting back

2104
01:45:43,347 --> 01:45:45,147
Speaker 25: into into a little bit of sl.

2105
01:45:45,027 --> 01:45:48,027
Speaker 13: GP racing and yeah, excited to try and kick off

2106
01:45:48,067 --> 01:45:48,707
Speaker 13: the season strong.

2107
01:45:49,187 --> 01:45:51,467
Speaker 2: So some new faces in the Black Foils team. Leo

2108
01:45:51,627 --> 01:45:55,747
Speaker 2: Takahashi has joined you as flight controller, replacing Andy Maloney.

2109
01:45:55,787 --> 01:45:57,587
Speaker 2: He knows the f fifty pretty well of course, But

2110
01:45:57,867 --> 01:46:00,707
Speaker 2: how much integration has that required having a new flight

2111
01:46:00,747 --> 01:46:01,547
Speaker 2: controller on board.

2112
01:46:03,187 --> 01:46:04,627
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's definitely been a lot of hard work in

2113
01:46:04,627 --> 01:46:08,027
Speaker 25: the background, just making sure that everyone's on the same page.

2114
01:46:08,147 --> 01:46:11,467
Speaker 25: You kind of are all I suppose used to the

2115
01:46:11,867 --> 01:46:15,347
Speaker 25: language we speak on the boat. Yeah, what different calls men,

2116
01:46:15,787 --> 01:46:18,787
Speaker 25: how we run our playbook. But yeah, to be honest,

2117
01:46:18,787 --> 01:46:20,307
Speaker 25: there's only so much work you can do on shore

2118
01:46:20,347 --> 01:46:21,867
Speaker 25: before you've got to get out there and put it

2119
01:46:21,907 --> 01:46:24,587
Speaker 25: to the test. And we're really excited today to be

2120
01:46:24,627 --> 01:46:28,747
Speaker 25: getting out on the water and just trying to I

2121
01:46:28,787 --> 01:46:31,627
Speaker 25: suppose to get the group to gel and operate at

2122
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:34,107
Speaker 25: the level now we can. So, yeah, it's a really

2123
01:46:34,107 --> 01:46:36,627
Speaker 25: exciting weekend to be able to, I suppose have our

2124
01:46:36,667 --> 01:46:39,347
Speaker 25: first test this season, and just looking forward to getting

2125
01:46:39,387 --> 01:46:42,307
Speaker 25: out there and giving it are all and we really

2126
01:46:42,347 --> 01:46:43,747
Speaker 25: want to get off to a good start this weekend.

2127
01:46:43,827 --> 01:46:45,587
Speaker 25: But we know that you've got a lot to learn

2128
01:46:45,667 --> 01:46:47,267
Speaker 25: and improve, and you know this is going to be

2129
01:46:47,347 --> 01:46:49,907
Speaker 25: a long season and we really want to be just

2130
01:46:49,987 --> 01:46:51,467
Speaker 25: stepping forward every event.

2131
01:46:52,267 --> 01:46:55,507
Speaker 2: What sense do you get from Leo about his level

2132
01:46:55,547 --> 01:46:58,427
Speaker 2: of readiness and I guess as levels of excitement.

2133
01:47:00,107 --> 01:47:02,987
Speaker 25: Yeah, well, I suppose for us, it's really cool having

2134
01:47:03,387 --> 01:47:05,707
Speaker 25: a new person on the team. You know, I think

2135
01:47:05,907 --> 01:47:08,307
Speaker 25: you know, any business, any group, you need a certain

2136
01:47:08,347 --> 01:47:11,227
Speaker 25: amount of turnover to keep that energy, keep that excitement,

2137
01:47:11,267 --> 01:47:13,187
Speaker 25: and you know, that's definitely what he brings is you know,

2138
01:47:13,267 --> 01:47:16,227
Speaker 25: a really good level of energy and intensity to the group.

2139
01:47:16,387 --> 01:47:18,107
Speaker 13: But you know, also he's got that little bit of

2140
01:47:18,147 --> 01:47:19,027
Speaker 13: an experience in.

2141
01:47:19,227 --> 01:47:22,667
Speaker 25: The flight controller position as well, you know, having having

2142
01:47:22,707 --> 01:47:25,907
Speaker 25: sailed for Japan for for a long time. Yeah, and

2143
01:47:25,987 --> 01:47:28,827
Speaker 25: then obviously but with the Americans last season, So you know,

2144
01:47:28,907 --> 01:47:30,947
Speaker 25: he's he's really looking forward to having a full time

2145
01:47:30,987 --> 01:47:32,707
Speaker 25: gig in that role, and you're really being able to

2146
01:47:32,747 --> 01:47:34,867
Speaker 25: cut his teeth and Sam meech on.

2147
01:47:34,947 --> 01:47:37,587
Speaker 2: New addition to your coaching team. What sort of ideas

2148
01:47:37,627 --> 01:47:39,507
Speaker 2: and fresh energy has he brought?

2149
01:47:40,907 --> 01:47:43,907
Speaker 25: Yeah, Sam, We've had a long history with Sam. Actually

2150
01:47:44,227 --> 01:47:45,707
Speaker 25: you have done a lot of sailing against them over

2151
01:47:45,747 --> 01:47:50,547
Speaker 25: the years. But yeah, it's just a really really good

2152
01:47:50,587 --> 01:47:54,307
Speaker 25: guy to have involved, you know, bringing some fresh ideas

2153
01:47:54,787 --> 01:47:57,267
Speaker 25: and yeah, I mean we've been so lucky with the

2154
01:47:57,707 --> 01:47:59,947
Speaker 25: coaching staff we've had over the years to continue to

2155
01:47:59,987 --> 01:48:02,467
Speaker 25: push us forward, and I'm sure Sam's going to sort

2156
01:48:02,547 --> 01:48:03,187
Speaker 25: into that amazingly.

2157
01:48:03,707 --> 01:48:06,467
Speaker 2: How do you reflect on the last sole GP season? Know,

2158
01:48:06,627 --> 01:48:09,067
Speaker 2: you lead the season standings, couldn't quite get the job

2159
01:48:09,147 --> 01:48:11,307
Speaker 2: done in the season finale, but how do you look

2160
01:48:11,347 --> 01:48:12,387
Speaker 2: back on twenty twenty four.

2161
01:48:14,187 --> 01:48:15,867
Speaker 25: Twenty twenty four for us was a little bit of

2162
01:48:15,867 --> 01:48:18,707
Speaker 25: a roller coaster. Yeah, we got off to an amazing start.

2163
01:48:18,867 --> 01:48:24,307
Speaker 25: You won the first event. Then, yeah, probably had our

2164
01:48:24,387 --> 01:48:26,467
Speaker 25: low point of the season, my first low point of

2165
01:48:26,507 --> 01:48:31,027
Speaker 25: the season, terrible event in La Broke, our willing Misson event,

2166
01:48:31,507 --> 01:48:33,307
Speaker 25: and then we went on an absolute run from there,

2167
01:48:33,427 --> 01:48:35,427
Speaker 25: you know, managing to get back to the top leaderboard

2168
01:48:36,107 --> 01:48:38,067
Speaker 25: and I think if you look at that points Sally

2169
01:48:38,107 --> 01:48:39,907
Speaker 25: we managed to get by the end of the season,

2170
01:48:40,107 --> 01:48:43,387
Speaker 25: was you know, something we're incredibly proud of. Obviously frustrated

2171
01:48:43,427 --> 01:48:44,707
Speaker 25: with the group not to be able to put together

2172
01:48:45,427 --> 01:48:47,627
Speaker 25: one of our best races in that that finaland sanfran

2173
01:48:48,787 --> 01:48:51,387
Speaker 25: but yeah, I mean it's it's such small margins when

2174
01:48:51,387 --> 01:48:53,427
Speaker 25: you put three of three boats that are performing at

2175
01:48:53,427 --> 01:48:55,667
Speaker 25: a really high level on the start line and throw

2176
01:48:55,707 --> 01:48:58,747
Speaker 25: them around a toe minute race. You know, we obviously

2177
01:48:59,067 --> 01:49:01,107
Speaker 25: had a bit much interaction with the Aussies, just let

2178
01:49:01,147 --> 01:49:03,787
Speaker 25: the Spanish get over the top and it was pretty

2179
01:49:03,827 --> 01:49:05,507
Speaker 25: hard to make a pass from there, so.

2180
01:49:05,587 --> 01:49:07,987
Speaker 2: You start the new seat. And in Dubai, you won

2181
01:49:08,027 --> 01:49:10,747
Speaker 2: the final at the Dubai event last season from memory,

2182
01:49:10,787 --> 01:49:13,507
Speaker 2: didn't didn't win any of the five fleet racers, but

2183
01:49:13,627 --> 01:49:16,427
Speaker 2: obviously won that the final in Dubai. What did you

2184
01:49:16,507 --> 01:49:18,627
Speaker 2: learn last season in Dubai that will be helpful as

2185
01:49:18,667 --> 01:49:19,667
Speaker 2: you open this new season.

2186
01:49:21,427 --> 01:49:23,027
Speaker 13: Well, de buys a bit of a unique venue.

2187
01:49:23,027 --> 01:49:25,987
Speaker 25: We actually sail right behind in a breakwater, so it's

2188
01:49:26,267 --> 01:49:29,867
Speaker 25: incredibly flat. The water's relatively warm, so you can push

2189
01:49:29,907 --> 01:49:33,387
Speaker 25: the boats really high in the right height. But yeah,

2190
01:49:33,427 --> 01:49:36,187
Speaker 25: it's really a lot about getting off the start line consistently,

2191
01:49:36,307 --> 01:49:39,627
Speaker 25: making sure you're in a reasonable position consistently at mark one,

2192
01:49:39,667 --> 01:49:41,427
Speaker 25: and then not making any mistakes.

2193
01:49:41,067 --> 01:49:43,187
Speaker 13: From there, continuing to push forward in the race.

2194
01:49:44,667 --> 01:49:46,227
Speaker 25: You know, with it being right at the bottom end

2195
01:49:46,227 --> 01:49:51,187
Speaker 25: of the windle that's generally here, it means that the

2196
01:49:51,307 --> 01:49:54,027
Speaker 25: one shadows, you know, the disturbance and turbulence off the

2197
01:49:54,267 --> 01:49:57,627
Speaker 25: boats has a massive effect. So you're making sure you

2198
01:49:58,347 --> 01:50:00,427
Speaker 25: position the boat really well around the racetrack and make

2199
01:50:00,507 --> 01:50:02,827
Speaker 25: the most of have the opportunity to get.

2200
01:50:02,667 --> 01:50:03,027
Speaker 13: Given to you.

2201
01:50:03,147 --> 01:50:05,947
Speaker 25: And with one more boat on the start line and

2202
01:50:06,027 --> 01:50:07,787
Speaker 25: that abualance is going to be even worse, so it's

2203
01:50:07,827 --> 01:50:10,067
Speaker 25: going to be interesting to see how much more.

2204
01:50:09,987 --> 01:50:11,187
Speaker 13: Of a effect that has.

2205
01:50:12,387 --> 01:50:14,547
Speaker 25: But to be honest, we just feel like we've got

2206
01:50:14,587 --> 01:50:15,787
Speaker 25: a really good plan as to how to deal with

2207
01:50:15,867 --> 01:50:17,467
Speaker 25: it and looking forward to going out and print it

2208
01:50:17,547 --> 01:50:18,747
Speaker 25: to the test now and.

2209
01:50:19,027 --> 01:50:21,867
Speaker 2: Stop number two is back in Auckland, so you will

2210
01:50:22,067 --> 01:50:24,267
Speaker 2: get the chance to get home obviously and then sail

2211
01:50:24,307 --> 01:50:27,147
Speaker 2: on home waters in Auckland this time. How much are

2212
01:50:27,187 --> 01:50:28,827
Speaker 2: you looking forward to your home event?

2213
01:50:30,707 --> 01:50:30,827
Speaker 12: Oh?

2214
01:50:30,827 --> 01:50:34,027
Speaker 25: I'm super excited to be racing back at home. You

2215
01:50:34,987 --> 01:50:36,907
Speaker 25: think any sailing event you do in the Zellen's always

2216
01:50:37,107 --> 01:50:39,867
Speaker 25: a really special one. You're seeing how many kiwis get

2217
01:50:39,907 --> 01:50:43,827
Speaker 25: down there and cheer us on. It's obviously still relatively

2218
01:50:43,867 --> 01:50:45,827
Speaker 25: close to Christmas, but I mean the support it's got.

2219
01:50:45,787 --> 01:50:47,827
Speaker 13: So far as has been absolutely unreal.

2220
01:50:47,867 --> 01:50:50,187
Speaker 25: And you know, still a couple of tickets for sale,

2221
01:50:50,227 --> 01:50:52,587
Speaker 25: so yeah, for those that haven't managed it, it's a

2222
01:50:52,627 --> 01:50:56,307
Speaker 25: secure one yet I encourage them to to get on

2223
01:50:56,427 --> 01:50:56,547
Speaker 25: with it.

2224
01:50:56,667 --> 01:50:59,147
Speaker 13: And yeah, it's going to be an absolutely amazing weekend.

2225
01:50:59,707 --> 01:51:03,147
Speaker 25: You know, the seeing eleven sorry twelve now if fifty's

2226
01:51:03,267 --> 01:51:06,307
Speaker 25: bruising around there in Auckland Harbor and such a small

2227
01:51:06,347 --> 01:51:07,667
Speaker 25: bit of water is going to be going to be

2228
01:51:07,667 --> 01:51:10,027
Speaker 25: a pretty cool spectacle and it'll be an amazing atmosphere.

2229
01:51:10,147 --> 01:51:11,587
Speaker 13: So't super excited.

2230
01:51:11,787 --> 01:51:15,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't wait. Do you reckon your your season favorites?

2231
01:51:15,227 --> 01:51:17,427
Speaker 2: Do you reckon your twenty twenty five sal GP favorites?

2232
01:51:19,907 --> 01:51:23,507
Speaker 13: I think we'd have to be one of the favorites. Yeah,

2233
01:51:23,547 --> 01:51:23,867
Speaker 13: I think.

2234
01:51:24,067 --> 01:51:26,907
Speaker 25: You know, there's the good teams last season that every

2235
01:51:26,947 --> 01:51:30,147
Speaker 25: run's back and reasonable shape. You know, some of the

2236
01:51:30,227 --> 01:51:32,027
Speaker 25: new teams have got really strong lineups as well, so

2237
01:51:32,347 --> 01:51:34,067
Speaker 25: you know this season will be all about who.

2238
01:51:34,027 --> 01:51:38,147
Speaker 13: Puts their best foot forward. You know, it's the unique,

2239
01:51:38,467 --> 01:51:39,027
Speaker 13: unique league.

2240
01:51:39,107 --> 01:51:40,707
Speaker 25: We've just got to put your best foot forward, make

2241
01:51:40,707 --> 01:51:42,227
Speaker 25: sure you get through to the final and then you're

2242
01:51:42,227 --> 01:51:43,107
Speaker 25: in really good shape from there.

2243
01:51:43,187 --> 01:51:44,787
Speaker 13: So you know, looking forward to doing that.

2244
01:51:44,947 --> 01:51:47,387
Speaker 25: And you know, for us, this weekends a lot about

2245
01:51:47,667 --> 01:51:51,107
Speaker 25: making sure we execute what we're trying to do out there,

2246
01:51:51,747 --> 01:51:53,467
Speaker 25: you know, trying to be nice and consistent and you know,

2247
01:51:53,547 --> 01:51:56,907
Speaker 25: really give ourselves a good, good platform to build from.

2248
01:51:57,387 --> 01:51:59,427
Speaker 2: Well, all the best and do by Pete and for

2249
01:51:59,707 --> 01:52:01,347
Speaker 2: a little bit of a break, I guess after that,

2250
01:52:01,467 --> 01:52:03,427
Speaker 2: did you come home for Christmas. Can't wait to see

2251
01:52:03,467 --> 01:52:04,827
Speaker 2: you in Auckland and January.

2252
01:52:04,867 --> 01:52:07,347
Speaker 13: Mate also thanks us, Mate.

2253
01:52:07,187 --> 01:52:10,747
Speaker 2: Now thank you Petter Peter Burling, that co CEO and

2254
01:52:10,907 --> 01:52:14,587
Speaker 2: driver of the Black Foils team here. So January eighteen

2255
01:52:14,667 --> 01:52:18,347
Speaker 2: and nineteen is when SALGP hits Auckland. We were lucky

2256
01:52:18,427 --> 01:52:20,427
Speaker 2: enough to do the show from christ Church Julia this

2257
01:52:20,547 --> 01:52:22,827
Speaker 2: year when it was down there, and yeah, just sort

2258
01:52:22,867 --> 01:52:27,147
Speaker 2: of putting the finishing touches on our broadcast which will

2259
01:52:27,147 --> 01:52:30,427
Speaker 2: come to you live from sal GP in January, mid January.

2260
01:52:30,707 --> 01:52:32,827
Speaker 2: It's going to roll around pretty quick, less than two

2261
01:52:32,867 --> 01:52:36,587
Speaker 2: months away. But yeah, SALGP starts tonight in Dubai around

2262
01:52:36,627 --> 01:52:40,147
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock New Zealand time. Leo Takahashi, who'd us talking

2263
01:52:40,147 --> 01:52:42,507
Speaker 2: about him? Then the new flight controller are going to

2264
01:52:42,547 --> 01:52:43,907
Speaker 2: have a chat to us in just a moment. But

2265
01:52:44,747 --> 01:52:47,027
Speaker 2: another feature of the summer in Auckland will be the

2266
01:52:47,067 --> 01:52:51,787
Speaker 2: ASB Classic Women or the Women's Week for the WTA

2267
01:52:51,947 --> 01:52:54,827
Speaker 2: December thirty to January five. Men's Week on the ATP

2268
01:52:54,987 --> 01:52:57,907
Speaker 2: Tour January sixth through eleven. Action is going to be

2269
01:52:57,947 --> 01:52:59,827
Speaker 2: hot on and off the court at the asp Classic,

2270
01:52:59,907 --> 01:53:02,707
Speaker 2: certainly the place to be over the holidays. If you're

2271
01:53:02,707 --> 01:53:05,307
Speaker 2: in the Auckland region. All the details you need on

2272
01:53:05,387 --> 01:53:08,747
Speaker 2: tickets etc. ASP Classic dot co dot nz. But this

2273
01:53:08,907 --> 01:53:12,307
Speaker 2: weekend we've got tickets to get you court side. We're

2274
01:53:12,347 --> 01:53:14,747
Speaker 2: playing Guess the Grunter. You just have to guess who

2275
01:53:14,827 --> 01:53:19,667
Speaker 2: this is and you're in the drawer to be courtside. Now,

2276
01:53:20,227 --> 01:53:22,307
Speaker 2: when are our tickets for this time? Here we go

2277
01:53:22,947 --> 01:53:27,667
Speaker 2: the evening session on January sixth. Evening session on January

2278
01:53:27,707 --> 01:53:30,907
Speaker 2: the sixth, that's the first evening session for the men's draw.

2279
01:53:32,427 --> 01:53:36,147
Speaker 2: All you have to do is text the word tennis,

2280
01:53:36,947 --> 01:53:39,707
Speaker 2: then your name, and then who you think this is

2281
01:53:40,387 --> 01:53:42,827
Speaker 2: to nine two ninety two. Something a little bit different.

2282
01:53:42,867 --> 01:53:45,947
Speaker 2: This is our rather than guess the grunter. Can you

2283
01:53:46,107 --> 01:53:50,067
Speaker 2: guess the grumbler? Tell us who this is? You can't

2284
01:53:50,147 --> 01:53:54,147
Speaker 2: be serious, man, you cannot be serious. How far is

2285
01:53:54,347 --> 01:53:57,827
Speaker 2: on the line, Sean blew up. I'm not even going

2286
01:53:57,867 --> 01:54:00,187
Speaker 2: to give you a clue for that one. That's so easy.

2287
01:54:00,627 --> 01:54:03,867
Speaker 2: So text the word tennis, your name and who that

2288
01:54:04,067 --> 01:54:07,547
Speaker 2: is to nine two nine two. Begin to win tickets

2289
01:54:07,907 --> 01:54:12,747
Speaker 2: to the ASB Classic. Guest the Grunter. It's nineteen to three.

2290
01:54:12,787 --> 01:54:13,307
Speaker 2: We're back in a.

2291
01:54:13,307 --> 01:54:18,907
Speaker 1: Second one crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Pain

2292
01:54:19,067 --> 01:54:22,947
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's ice Trusted home Builder News

2293
01:54:23,027 --> 01:54:24,067
Speaker 1: talk to Baby.

2294
01:54:24,147 --> 01:54:26,547
Speaker 2: Two forty four. As mentioned, the New Sale GP season

2295
01:54:26,587 --> 01:54:29,787
Speaker 2: starts tonight in Dubai. We've heard from Peter Berling. Let's

2296
01:54:29,787 --> 01:54:34,307
Speaker 2: bring a new black foils flight controller Leo Takahashi. He's

2297
01:54:34,387 --> 01:54:36,387
Speaker 2: joined the New Zealand team for the next three years

2298
01:54:36,467 --> 01:54:39,667
Speaker 2: following the departure of Andy Maloney. Leo, thanks for taking

2299
01:54:39,667 --> 01:54:41,347
Speaker 2: the time for a chant. How did this all come about?

2300
01:54:41,987 --> 01:54:44,147
Speaker 18: Yeah, thank you very much, Jason, thanks for having me.

2301
01:54:44,867 --> 01:54:47,427
Speaker 24: Yeah, so I gues you know, a couple of things,

2302
01:54:48,387 --> 01:54:50,867
Speaker 24: you know, with Andy's departure and the new season beginning,

2303
01:54:51,267 --> 01:54:53,707
Speaker 24: there was an opportunity and yeah, a phone call from

2304
01:54:53,707 --> 01:54:55,587
Speaker 24: Peeden Blair and it just happened really quick.

2305
01:54:55,987 --> 01:54:57,787
Speaker 18: But yeah, now we're in Dubai getting ready for the

2306
01:54:57,867 --> 01:54:58,307
Speaker 18: new season.

2307
01:54:58,867 --> 01:55:01,027
Speaker 2: So when Peter Berling and Blair chuke ring you with

2308
01:55:01,107 --> 01:55:03,867
Speaker 2: a proposition like this, I imagine it's a fairly easy yes.

2309
01:55:04,027 --> 01:55:04,187
Speaker 19: Is it.

2310
01:55:05,787 --> 01:55:07,827
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's right now.

2311
01:55:08,027 --> 01:55:10,707
Speaker 24: It was a pretty easy yes and a massive opportunity

2312
01:55:10,747 --> 01:55:12,747
Speaker 24: for me in my career. So yeah, it was, you know,

2313
01:55:12,947 --> 01:55:13,987
Speaker 24: stoked to say yes.

2314
01:55:14,507 --> 01:55:17,107
Speaker 2: So for the casual sole GP fans who are listening,

2315
01:55:17,147 --> 01:55:20,107
Speaker 2: and can you explain to us the exact role of

2316
01:55:20,227 --> 01:55:21,067
Speaker 2: the flight controller.

2317
01:55:22,667 --> 01:55:24,107
Speaker 18: Yes, as the flight controller.

2318
01:55:24,147 --> 01:55:28,947
Speaker 24: I mean there's there's six people on board the helm, wing, trimmer,

2319
01:55:29,027 --> 01:55:32,827
Speaker 24: flight controller, two grinders and strategists. See, we all have

2320
01:55:32,947 --> 01:55:35,827
Speaker 24: our roles to play on making the bow go fast

2321
01:55:35,907 --> 01:55:37,307
Speaker 24: and good around the track.

2322
01:55:38,027 --> 01:55:39,147
Speaker 18: Flight controller especially.

2323
01:55:39,267 --> 01:55:42,147
Speaker 24: We have big foils under the boat, four of them

2324
01:55:42,187 --> 01:55:44,907
Speaker 24: in fact, two rudders and two daggerboards. So I get

2325
01:55:44,947 --> 01:55:49,427
Speaker 24: full control of those oils. And you know, in layman's terms,

2326
01:55:49,467 --> 01:55:52,147
Speaker 24: if the boat's flying high and stable and we're going

2327
01:55:52,187 --> 01:55:54,467
Speaker 24: well in the race, you know we're doing I'm doing

2328
01:55:54,467 --> 01:55:56,667
Speaker 24: a good job. And if the boat's looking unstable and

2329
01:55:57,507 --> 01:56:00,147
Speaker 24: a little bit jumpy, I'm not doing a very good job.

2330
01:56:00,227 --> 01:56:02,507
Speaker 24: So I get full control of the foils and fly

2331
01:56:02,667 --> 01:56:04,667
Speaker 24: the boat as high as I can and fast as

2332
01:56:04,707 --> 01:56:04,947
Speaker 24: I can.

2333
01:56:05,627 --> 01:56:08,467
Speaker 2: That seems I'm sure they're all important jobs, but that

2334
01:56:08,747 --> 01:56:11,027
Speaker 2: seems like a really important job, and one which I

2335
01:56:11,147 --> 01:56:15,387
Speaker 2: guess would be fraught with a bit of risk taking

2336
01:56:15,467 --> 01:56:17,787
Speaker 2: and maybe a bit of margin for error or small

2337
01:56:17,867 --> 01:56:19,707
Speaker 2: margin for error. Is it a stressful job?

2338
01:56:21,147 --> 01:56:23,947
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's a lot of concentration involved, and it's very

2339
01:56:24,267 --> 01:56:26,787
Speaker 24: quick and snappy now, you know with all the quick

2340
01:56:26,907 --> 01:56:29,187
Speaker 24: racing and the TV times and all that.

2341
01:56:29,307 --> 01:56:31,427
Speaker 18: So just have to be fully focused for that fifteen

2342
01:56:31,467 --> 01:56:34,747
Speaker 18: minutes and you know, three races or to play for.

2343
01:56:34,987 --> 01:56:37,187
Speaker 24: You know, if you're last in a race and that's

2344
01:56:37,267 --> 01:56:39,787
Speaker 24: going to be big points for the season. So always

2345
01:56:39,827 --> 01:56:41,467
Speaker 24: going to be focused and controlled. And yeah, as a

2346
01:56:41,587 --> 01:56:43,867
Speaker 24: risk verse reward, if you fly the boat high, it

2347
01:56:43,987 --> 01:56:46,027
Speaker 24: is more margin for error and you could lead to

2348
01:56:46,067 --> 01:56:48,587
Speaker 24: a crash or but also if you fight the boat

2349
01:56:48,667 --> 01:56:50,707
Speaker 24: high and you do it well, then you're going to

2350
01:56:50,707 --> 01:56:51,347
Speaker 24: be going fast.

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01:56:51,387 --> 01:56:54,187
Speaker 18: So that's the kind of gray area we're playing with.

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01:56:54,787 --> 01:56:57,827
Speaker 2: Has there been an integration period for you with the team.

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01:56:57,907 --> 01:56:59,827
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly you know what you're doing, but in

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01:56:59,987 --> 01:57:02,627
Speaker 2: terms of comms on board things like that, the language

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01:57:02,667 --> 01:57:04,147
Speaker 2: that's used, all those sorts of things.

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01:57:05,747 --> 01:57:08,147
Speaker 24: Yeah, the control I'm more of on the receiving end

2357
01:57:08,187 --> 01:57:10,707
Speaker 24: of comms, so I'm kind of just hearing what the

2358
01:57:10,787 --> 01:57:11,427
Speaker 24: boat's going on.

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01:57:11,547 --> 01:57:13,347
Speaker 18: I'm fully focused on just flying the boat well.

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01:57:13,467 --> 01:57:16,747
Speaker 24: So you know, Pete and Blair and Live the strategist

2361
01:57:17,507 --> 01:57:20,027
Speaker 24: there more mostly in the comms, and I'm just kind

2362
01:57:20,067 --> 01:57:23,187
Speaker 24: of tuning in and making sure that I'm kind of

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01:57:23,227 --> 01:57:24,867
Speaker 24: pre entering what's going to happen in the race, and

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01:57:25,827 --> 01:57:26,547
Speaker 24: that's about it for me.

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01:57:26,707 --> 01:57:27,827
Speaker 18: And in terms of.

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01:57:29,467 --> 01:57:31,187
Speaker 24: Getting used to the team, I know all these guys

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01:57:31,307 --> 01:57:33,987
Speaker 24: really well, so it's been really easy fitting in and

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01:57:34,107 --> 01:57:35,747
Speaker 24: we've been in device for a couple of days now,

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01:57:35,947 --> 01:57:38,427
Speaker 24: but a team building and just going through a lot

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01:57:38,467 --> 01:57:41,147
Speaker 24: of documents, you know, of the last few seasons and

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01:57:41,307 --> 01:57:43,707
Speaker 24: just kind of really getting integrated and how it all

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01:57:43,747 --> 01:57:44,147
Speaker 24: works here.

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01:57:44,747 --> 01:57:47,547
Speaker 2: You've had time obviously with Japan Sales GP team and

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01:57:47,707 --> 01:57:50,067
Speaker 2: the US team as well. Do you perceive that this

2375
01:57:50,147 --> 01:57:52,187
Speaker 2: will be a step up from those two teams?

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01:57:53,587 --> 01:57:54,267
Speaker 18: One hundred percent?

2377
01:57:54,427 --> 01:57:54,587
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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01:57:54,627 --> 01:57:57,227
Speaker 24: The Black Floors are the benchmark of Sales GP right now,

2379
01:57:57,387 --> 01:57:59,467
Speaker 24: so you know, the cream of the crop, and you know,

2380
01:57:59,627 --> 01:58:03,067
Speaker 24: got some definitely big shoes to filter to do my part,

2381
01:58:03,347 --> 01:58:05,947
Speaker 24: But you know, I'm just really excited to bring my

2382
01:58:06,467 --> 01:58:10,667
Speaker 24: my experience and my kind of two cents into the team.

2383
01:58:10,747 --> 01:58:13,387
Speaker 24: And I guess yeah, I mean it's an opportunity for

2384
01:58:13,507 --> 01:58:16,307
Speaker 24: the team to get a new face and a new perspective.

2385
01:58:16,427 --> 01:58:18,907
Speaker 24: So I'm just really looking forward to to showing what

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01:58:19,027 --> 01:58:22,147
Speaker 24: I can do. And you're helping this team develop and

2387
01:58:22,387 --> 01:58:23,467
Speaker 24: get back on the top step.

2388
01:58:24,067 --> 01:58:26,467
Speaker 2: You meant it before that during races it's often one

2389
01:58:26,547 --> 01:58:28,747
Speaker 2: way colms that you're you're receiving a lot of information.

2390
01:58:29,147 --> 01:58:31,147
Speaker 2: But when you're having your debriefs and as you meet

2391
01:58:31,187 --> 01:58:33,787
Speaker 2: you before, when you're going through your preparation, does it

2392
01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:36,747
Speaker 2: feel like an environment in which you can offer thoughts

2393
01:58:36,867 --> 01:58:38,147
Speaker 2: suggestions freely?

2394
01:58:39,947 --> 01:58:41,907
Speaker 24: Yeah, so you know, just listening to the comms and

2395
01:58:41,947 --> 01:58:45,027
Speaker 24: all that, I can kind of see what I kind

2396
01:58:45,027 --> 01:58:48,667
Speaker 24: of saw or heard in the race and then kind

2397
01:58:48,707 --> 01:58:50,307
Speaker 24: of just give my two cents on what I thought.

2398
01:58:50,667 --> 01:58:52,507
Speaker 24: And yeah, you know, we have a really good culture

2399
01:58:52,547 --> 01:58:54,867
Speaker 24: in the team where you know, we're really just open

2400
01:58:54,947 --> 01:58:58,227
Speaker 24: to feedback and just it feels like such a professional

2401
01:58:58,307 --> 01:58:59,707
Speaker 24: high high sports team.

2402
01:59:00,187 --> 01:59:01,387
Speaker 18: So it's really good in that sense.

2403
01:59:01,427 --> 01:59:04,307
Speaker 24: And yeah, I mean everyone here is so good to

2404
01:59:04,347 --> 01:59:06,747
Speaker 24: work with, so it's been really easy get into it,

2405
01:59:06,827 --> 01:59:09,587
Speaker 24: and I'm just really excited to just itching to get

2406
01:59:09,627 --> 01:59:10,747
Speaker 24: on the boat and get racing.

2407
01:59:11,307 --> 01:59:13,347
Speaker 2: So after do By, the second stop on the calendar

2408
01:59:13,467 --> 01:59:15,907
Speaker 2: is Auckland in January. You grew up sailing at the

2409
01:59:15,987 --> 01:59:18,347
Speaker 2: Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron of course, where the race

2410
01:59:18,947 --> 01:59:21,587
Speaker 2: course will be how special an event. Is Auckland going

2411
01:59:21,627 --> 01:59:21,987
Speaker 2: to be for you?

2412
01:59:23,587 --> 01:59:24,547
Speaker 18: Oh, it's going to be epic.

2413
01:59:25,627 --> 01:59:28,707
Speaker 24: Yeah, Auckland Harbor, it's going to be super tight racing

2414
01:59:28,907 --> 01:59:31,107
Speaker 24: and it's really cool how the grandstand is going to

2415
01:59:31,107 --> 01:59:32,427
Speaker 24: be set up right on win yourd point.

2416
01:59:33,747 --> 01:59:35,147
Speaker 18: Yeah, the start and the finish would be.

2417
01:59:35,227 --> 01:59:37,667
Speaker 24: Right there, so basically buzzing right next to the wall,

2418
01:59:37,747 --> 01:59:40,467
Speaker 24: and the fans approved me close enough to touch the

2419
01:59:40,547 --> 01:59:43,267
Speaker 24: boats might be able to see me on board, which

2420
01:59:43,267 --> 01:59:45,707
Speaker 24: would be cool. Yeah, it's going to be really special

2421
01:59:45,867 --> 01:59:51,347
Speaker 24: and a real good testament to how well just bringings

2422
01:59:51,427 --> 01:59:54,507
Speaker 24: ALGP there. It's gonna be awesome City of Sales basically, and.

2423
01:59:54,547 --> 01:59:55,707
Speaker 2: You've done a lot of sailing in a lot of

2424
01:59:55,747 --> 01:59:59,267
Speaker 2: different boats. How to sail GP compare to the other

2425
01:59:59,347 --> 02:00:00,027
Speaker 2: sailing you've done.

2426
02:00:02,507 --> 02:00:05,507
Speaker 24: There's nothing like Sale GP. Really, it's definitely the pinnacle

2427
02:00:05,507 --> 02:00:08,947
Speaker 24: of the sport. You know, what differentiates salgia pizza a

2428
02:00:08,987 --> 02:00:13,107
Speaker 24: real sport is just how tight and quick you have

2429
02:00:13,227 --> 02:00:15,187
Speaker 24: to be so focused.

2430
02:00:16,427 --> 02:00:17,587
Speaker 18: To do well here.

2431
02:00:17,707 --> 02:00:21,867
Speaker 24: And like I said, you know it's it's tire course

2432
02:00:22,147 --> 02:00:24,787
Speaker 24: fast racing and yeah, the fans get to enjoy it, so,

2433
02:00:25,427 --> 02:00:27,627
Speaker 24: you know, Sergei Pi has really changed the dimension of

2434
02:00:27,747 --> 02:00:30,827
Speaker 24: kind of sailing as a whole. The fans can see

2435
02:00:30,827 --> 02:00:34,427
Speaker 24: it so close and just be there with us, so

2436
02:00:34,667 --> 02:00:36,747
Speaker 24: that's a cool part of it. It's basically just like

2437
02:00:36,827 --> 02:00:37,507
Speaker 24: if one on the water.

2438
02:00:37,667 --> 02:00:40,147
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it's it's brilliant to watch. And of course

2439
02:00:40,227 --> 02:00:42,747
Speaker 2: recently you were helmsman of the New Zealand team and

2440
02:00:42,747 --> 02:00:44,867
Speaker 2: the Youth America's Cup and Barcelona. How do you reflect

2441
02:00:44,907 --> 02:00:48,427
Speaker 2: on that experience twice for you now? Of course, yeah,

2442
02:00:48,547 --> 02:00:48,947
Speaker 2: that was a.

2443
02:00:49,027 --> 02:00:51,227
Speaker 24: You know, a really cool experience just being part of

2444
02:00:51,267 --> 02:00:54,107
Speaker 24: the whole atmosphere there and being part of the bigger

2445
02:00:54,227 --> 02:00:55,107
Speaker 24: team in general.

2446
02:00:55,867 --> 02:00:58,147
Speaker 18: But you know, just take those learnings.

2447
02:00:58,187 --> 02:01:00,147
Speaker 24: It's been a big year for me, so just really

2448
02:01:00,227 --> 02:01:02,067
Speaker 24: trying to take all those learnings what I learned in

2449
02:01:02,107 --> 02:01:06,187
Speaker 24: Barcelona into into the Black Foils and yeah, my focus

2450
02:01:06,787 --> 02:01:09,747
Speaker 24: switches now into the short course racing and being a

2451
02:01:09,827 --> 02:01:12,547
Speaker 24: flight controller as well, so something different and yeah, just

2452
02:01:12,587 --> 02:01:14,427
Speaker 24: going to put my all into this project.

2453
02:01:14,787 --> 02:01:16,547
Speaker 2: Exciting times ahead. We'll all the best and do by

2454
02:01:16,587 --> 02:01:19,467
Speaker 2: this weekend, Leo. Look forward to catching up in person

2455
02:01:19,547 --> 02:01:21,627
Speaker 2: when you hit Auckland in the middle of January.

2456
02:01:21,907 --> 02:01:23,027
Speaker 18: Thanks Jason, thank you very much.

2457
02:01:23,107 --> 02:01:25,667
Speaker 2: I appreciate you time. Leo, thanks indeed, Leo Takahashi. There

2458
02:01:25,747 --> 02:01:28,827
Speaker 2: new flight controller with the black foils. Our sale GP

2459
02:01:29,027 --> 02:01:33,427
Speaker 2: Team Dubai. First event starts tonight and again tomorrow night.

2460
02:01:33,507 --> 02:01:36,107
Speaker 2: Then they have a break before they had Auckland January

2461
02:01:36,267 --> 02:01:40,307
Speaker 2: eighteen and nineteen nine to three with him playing guest

2462
02:01:40,387 --> 02:01:42,827
Speaker 2: the Grunter, or in this case, guest the Grumbler.

2463
02:01:43,587 --> 02:01:46,747
Speaker 16: You can't be serious, man, you cannot be serious.

2464
02:01:47,387 --> 02:01:50,747
Speaker 2: Come Mills on the line, short blew up.

2465
02:01:51,147 --> 02:01:51,307
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2466
02:01:51,307 --> 02:01:54,027
Speaker 2: I don't think there were too many wrong answers. John McEnroe,

2467
02:01:54,107 --> 02:01:58,547
Speaker 2: of course is our grunter slash grumbler this hour. Our congratulations.

2468
02:01:58,587 --> 02:02:01,107
Speaker 2: Thanks for all the text. By the way, hundreds came through.

2469
02:02:01,267 --> 02:02:04,107
Speaker 2: The one that has been randomly selected is that of

2470
02:02:04,307 --> 02:02:08,787
Speaker 2: joe An Nixon. Congratulate Joeanne. You're off to the evening

2471
02:02:08,947 --> 02:02:12,467
Speaker 2: session on the sixth of January at the ASB Tennis Classic.

2472
02:02:12,547 --> 02:02:15,507
Speaker 2: You and a friend, so two tickets for you. We

2473
02:02:15,707 --> 02:02:18,747
Speaker 2: have more to give away tomorrow between twelve and three.

2474
02:02:18,827 --> 02:02:22,667
Speaker 2: Will play guest the Grunter again tomorrow, more tickets to win.

2475
02:02:22,907 --> 02:02:27,187
Speaker 2: More information on the ASB Classic at ASB Classic dot

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02:02:27,307 --> 02:02:30,227
Speaker 2: co dot nzet eight to three news talks eb.

2477
02:02:31,747 --> 02:02:32,587
Speaker 12: Let's see from the.

2478
02:02:32,667 --> 02:02:35,507
Speaker 1: Track fields and the court on your home of sport

2479
02:02:35,867 --> 02:02:38,987
Speaker 1: weekends for it. Where's Jason vine Us talks MB.

2480
02:02:39,547 --> 02:02:42,067
Speaker 2: Five to three. That's us for today, Tim Tim Beverage

2481
02:02:42,067 --> 02:02:45,147
Speaker 2: after three with a weekend collective. We start tomorrow show

2482
02:02:45,347 --> 02:02:47,347
Speaker 2: after the end of the rugby likely to be around

2483
02:02:47,387 --> 02:02:51,267
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen. We're putting together Razors report card for twenty

2484
02:02:51,307 --> 02:02:54,267
Speaker 2: twenty four tomorrow with your help, so we look forward

2485
02:02:54,307 --> 02:02:56,347
Speaker 2: to chatting to you then. Thanks for listening in this

2486
02:02:56,467 --> 02:02:58,787
Speaker 2: afternoon and taking part in the show. Huge thanks to

2487
02:02:58,827 --> 02:03:02,307
Speaker 2: Andy McDonald for producing and pulling everything together, answering the phones, etc.

2488
02:03:02,867 --> 02:03:05,307
Speaker 2: What's our exit song today, mate? Yes, Piney. This exit

2489
02:03:05,347 --> 02:03:07,547
Speaker 2: song comes from one of my favorite musicians.

2490
02:03:07,587 --> 02:03:11,707
Speaker 20: It's Miley Cyrus because it's her thirty second birthday today,

2491
02:03:11,747 --> 02:03:14,307
Speaker 20: so I've chosen Malibu by Miley Cyrus.

2492
02:03:14,387 --> 02:03:15,547
Speaker 2: Absolute banger of a song.

2493
02:03:16,027 --> 02:03:19,227
Speaker 20: All right, well, let's uh, let's hear it. You sound

2494
02:03:19,347 --> 02:03:23,347
Speaker 20: you sound judgmental, Barnie. I'm I'm unsure about your feelings

2495
02:03:23,347 --> 02:03:25,947
Speaker 20: on this. I'm completely non judgmental. I'm the opposite of

2496
02:03:25,987 --> 02:03:30,107
Speaker 20: whatever judgmental is. Let's listen to the last little bit

2497
02:03:30,147 --> 02:03:31,347
Speaker 20: of it and we'll see you tomorrow.

2498
02:03:36,987 --> 02:03:54,827
Speaker 23: Let's we are have a slight boy flow back in

2499
02:03:58,307 --> 02:04:02,667
Speaker 23: Sometimes I feel like com joining yours, Save me, no

2500
02:04:03,467 --> 02:04:04,187
Speaker 23: thank you, with.

2501
02:04:04,427 --> 02:04:05,347
Speaker 12: All of mine.

2502
02:04:07,307 --> 02:04:13,067
Speaker 23: It's a brand new style, a dream come true.

2503
02:04:14,707 --> 02:04:14,907
Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live

2505
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