1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. 3 00:00:14,947 --> 00:00:18,747 Speaker 2: Eleventeens from across the globe converge on the way to Matahaba. 4 00:00:19,027 --> 00:00:21,867 Speaker 1: Sale GP returns to New Zealand and we've got all 5 00:00:21,867 --> 00:00:25,267 Speaker 1: the big names in sailing straight sprint of its Weekend 6 00:00:25,347 --> 00:00:26,027 Speaker 1: Sport with. 7 00:00:26,147 --> 00:00:28,467 Speaker 2: Jason Pine live from the sale. 8 00:00:28,147 --> 00:00:30,787 Speaker 1: GP Village at Win Your Foot on your home of 9 00:00:30,867 --> 00:00:32,427 Speaker 1: Sport News Talks EDB. 10 00:00:33,467 --> 00:00:36,147 Speaker 3: Jeret to good afternoon, Welcome into a very special edition 11 00:00:36,187 --> 00:00:39,467 Speaker 3: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB, Saturday, January eighteen, 12 00:00:39,587 --> 00:00:42,907 Speaker 3: Coming to your live from Winyard Point in Auckland, scene 13 00:00:42,947 --> 00:00:45,787 Speaker 3: of the race stadium in the second event of season 14 00:00:45,867 --> 00:00:50,547 Speaker 3: five and the Rolecks sale GP Championship. Sale GP without 15 00:00:50,627 --> 00:00:53,707 Speaker 3: question the most exciting racing you'll see on the water. 16 00:00:53,867 --> 00:00:58,027 Speaker 3: Twelve national teams battling it out in identical, high tech, 17 00:00:58,107 --> 00:01:03,387 Speaker 3: high speed, fifty foot foiling catamarans at fourteen iconic venues 18 00:01:03,747 --> 00:01:07,387 Speaker 3: around the world, racing as speeds approaching one hundred kilometers 19 00:01:07,427 --> 00:01:10,387 Speaker 3: an hour, and this weekend faster, perhaps even than that. 20 00:01:10,547 --> 00:01:14,387 Speaker 3: Sale GP sees the world's top sailors chasing national pride, 21 00:01:14,387 --> 00:01:18,027 Speaker 3: personal glory and total prize money of nearly thirteen million 22 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:21,507 Speaker 3: US dollars. This weekend, Auckland makes it Sale GP debut 23 00:01:21,667 --> 00:01:25,467 Speaker 3: on Watamata Harbor. Twenty five thousand fans expected across the 24 00:01:25,507 --> 00:01:28,387 Speaker 3: two days of action. Three fleet racers today, two more 25 00:01:28,387 --> 00:01:31,587 Speaker 3: tomorrow and then the three boat final racing starts at 26 00:01:31,587 --> 00:01:34,067 Speaker 3: four o'clock both days. So over the next three hours 27 00:01:34,067 --> 00:01:36,787 Speaker 3: we'll bring you the most comprehensive ProView you'll find of 28 00:01:36,827 --> 00:01:40,067 Speaker 3: this iconic event, and we'll do it all again tomorrow 29 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:42,187 Speaker 3: on the show this afternoon, some of the biggest names 30 00:01:42,227 --> 00:01:45,227 Speaker 3: in sailing. Peter Birling from New Zealand's Black Foils leads 31 00:01:45,307 --> 00:01:48,667 Speaker 3: us off shortly Also this hour Australian driver Tom Slingsby 32 00:01:48,987 --> 00:01:52,147 Speaker 3: later in the show, Great Britain strategist rather Great Britain 33 00:01:52,227 --> 00:01:56,387 Speaker 3: driver Dylan Fletcher, United States driver Taylor Canfield, and the 34 00:01:56,427 --> 00:02:01,027 Speaker 3: new Brazilian team's CEO and owner Alan Adler, plus plenty more. 35 00:02:01,067 --> 00:02:04,587 Speaker 3: From our spectacular position in the Sale GP Media Center 36 00:02:04,627 --> 00:02:08,147 Speaker 3: overlooking the race course on to Matar Harbor, you can 37 00:02:08,227 --> 00:02:10,347 Speaker 3: join the show anytime you like. Eight hundred and eighty 38 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:12,587 Speaker 3: ten eighty gets you throw on the phone. Nine two 39 00:02:12,707 --> 00:02:15,787 Speaker 3: ninety two for text messages and emails into Jason at 40 00:02:15,787 --> 00:02:18,787 Speaker 3: Newstalk SEDB dot co dot nz. It coming up nine 41 00:02:18,787 --> 00:02:19,867 Speaker 3: past midday. 42 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:24,467 Speaker 1: Talking the sport, on the field and on the water 43 00:02:24,987 --> 00:02:27,827 Speaker 1: play from Sale GP in the City of Sales. It's 44 00:02:27,947 --> 00:02:32,507 Speaker 1: weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunderholmes, New Zealand's 45 00:02:32,547 --> 00:02:34,547 Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks EDB. 46 00:02:35,267 --> 00:02:36,987 Speaker 3: Well, it's really only one person we could start the 47 00:02:37,027 --> 00:02:39,147 Speaker 3: show with today, without a doubt. One of the world's 48 00:02:39,147 --> 00:02:42,707 Speaker 3: great modern day sailors. Twenty sixteen Olympic champion, three time 49 00:02:42,747 --> 00:02:47,147 Speaker 3: Olympic medallist, nine time World champion, three time America's Cup 50 00:02:47,147 --> 00:02:50,707 Speaker 3: winning helmsman, two time World Mail Sailor of the Year, 51 00:02:51,067 --> 00:02:53,827 Speaker 3: Member of the New Zealand Order of Merit, Driver and 52 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:57,307 Speaker 3: co CEO of the New Zealand Black Foils Peter Berling. 53 00:02:57,347 --> 00:03:00,107 Speaker 3: How are you feeling about sale gp Auckland. Nice to 54 00:03:00,107 --> 00:03:02,987 Speaker 3: see you, mate, Hey, how's it going? Good morning there, 55 00:03:02,987 --> 00:03:05,147 Speaker 3: it looks like an it's ay awesome day today. You've 56 00:03:05,147 --> 00:03:07,107 Speaker 3: got a pretty good spot for viewing here to be honest, 57 00:03:07,147 --> 00:03:07,867 Speaker 3: in the media center. 58 00:03:08,307 --> 00:03:11,427 Speaker 4: But yeah, this is on the north north East breeze. 59 00:03:11,427 --> 00:03:13,707 Speaker 4: Should should fill in Nicy and it's pretty cool seeing 60 00:03:13,707 --> 00:03:16,787 Speaker 4: all the boats already half cranedon behind us, and it's 61 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:17,867 Speaker 4: shaping up to be an awesome day. 62 00:03:17,867 --> 00:03:20,187 Speaker 3: Absolutely, excitement is high. You come here, of course off 63 00:03:20,187 --> 00:03:23,307 Speaker 3: the back of victory in the season opening events in November. 64 00:03:23,547 --> 00:03:26,067 Speaker 3: What were you most pleased about in Dubai. 65 00:03:26,627 --> 00:03:28,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do buy for us as obviously the season opener. 66 00:03:29,747 --> 00:03:32,347 Speaker 4: Like any championship, you obviously want to try and get 67 00:03:32,347 --> 00:03:34,587 Speaker 4: off to a good start. We've obviously got a slightly 68 00:03:34,627 --> 00:03:37,187 Speaker 4: changed lineup since since last season, and you know, it's 69 00:03:37,227 --> 00:03:39,907 Speaker 4: really about trying to build that experience in the new configuration, 70 00:03:39,987 --> 00:03:43,907 Speaker 4: build that that comfort level. Obviously completely different conditions and 71 00:03:43,987 --> 00:03:46,787 Speaker 4: configuration in Dubai to hear. So now we're really pleased 72 00:03:46,787 --> 00:03:48,427 Speaker 4: with the way we went out and build a really 73 00:03:48,467 --> 00:03:51,507 Speaker 4: solid plan and executed that in Dubai and we're in 74 00:03:51,547 --> 00:03:53,827 Speaker 4: the No Illusions. It's big change ups this week with 75 00:03:54,027 --> 00:03:56,187 Speaker 4: the T force coming in being a bit more up 76 00:03:56,187 --> 00:03:59,107 Speaker 4: the wind range should be a really good equalizer, so 77 00:03:59,107 --> 00:04:00,987 Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see. But it's their 78 00:04:00,987 --> 00:04:03,107 Speaker 4: best foot forward here and wanted no illusions. We're going 79 00:04:03,187 --> 00:04:04,507 Speaker 4: to have to perform right at the top of our game. 80 00:04:04,787 --> 00:04:05,707 Speaker 4: We want to win this weekend. 81 00:04:05,867 --> 00:04:07,707 Speaker 3: You want to talk about the t falls in a 82 00:04:07,747 --> 00:04:11,227 Speaker 3: moment you mentioned the personnel change. Andy Maloney hugely experienced, 83 00:04:11,227 --> 00:04:14,267 Speaker 3: he's with the Brazilian team now Leo Takahashi has come 84 00:04:14,307 --> 00:04:17,307 Speaker 3: in as flight controller. How did you go about getting 85 00:04:17,387 --> 00:04:19,267 Speaker 3: him up to speed as quickly as you could without 86 00:04:19,587 --> 00:04:20,907 Speaker 3: overloading him with information. 87 00:04:21,467 --> 00:04:24,307 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think salgp's obviously opened up their nationality rules 88 00:04:24,347 --> 00:04:25,907 Speaker 4: now and I think it's really good for the sport 89 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:30,587 Speaker 4: now having that transfer market and in sol GPS kind 90 00:04:30,627 --> 00:04:33,387 Speaker 4: of both US and the Australian's lost a real experienced 91 00:04:34,027 --> 00:04:36,707 Speaker 4: person both bringing new people back in. But yeah, for us, 92 00:04:36,747 --> 00:04:40,347 Speaker 4: it's been just you know, trying to upscale Leo. He's 93 00:04:40,387 --> 00:04:42,667 Speaker 4: We're really lucky he's actually coming at a really high level, 94 00:04:42,787 --> 00:04:45,267 Speaker 4: having done a few seasons with the Japanese team before 95 00:04:45,267 --> 00:04:47,387 Speaker 4: they exited the league. But you know, I think everything's 96 00:04:47,427 --> 00:04:48,947 Speaker 4: progressed so far, and it's all about just you know, 97 00:04:48,987 --> 00:04:52,627 Speaker 4: building that comfort level across across the sailing team, you know, 98 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:54,707 Speaker 4: really getting that kind of muscle memory in terms of 99 00:04:54,987 --> 00:04:57,027 Speaker 4: understanding what the other person's going to do at what time. 100 00:04:57,107 --> 00:04:59,347 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think we'll just get better and better 101 00:04:59,347 --> 00:05:01,227 Speaker 4: at a group. So we're really happy with the base 102 00:05:01,267 --> 00:05:02,827 Speaker 4: we've got. We're on no illusions, We've got a lot 103 00:05:02,827 --> 00:05:04,827 Speaker 4: of hard work to do over the week ahead, but 104 00:05:05,107 --> 00:05:06,547 Speaker 4: really excited teend the racing today. 105 00:05:06,507 --> 00:05:09,227 Speaker 3: Andy Maloney spoken really glowing terms about you and Blair 106 00:05:09,347 --> 00:05:11,307 Speaker 3: Chuke and said, look, it was a tough decision for 107 00:05:11,387 --> 00:05:13,507 Speaker 3: him to make, but he he always comes to you 108 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:15,867 Speaker 3: for the big decisions in his life for advice. Must 109 00:05:15,867 --> 00:05:17,907 Speaker 3: have been a slightly different one though, And did he say, hey, 110 00:05:17,947 --> 00:05:21,067 Speaker 3: I need some advice. Should I leave you or not? Yeah? 111 00:05:21,227 --> 00:05:23,627 Speaker 4: I mean it's sport though, right, and you kind of 112 00:05:23,987 --> 00:05:26,467 Speaker 4: you got to encourage people to do what's best for them, 113 00:05:26,987 --> 00:05:28,507 Speaker 4: and that's what we did for any And he's really 114 00:05:28,547 --> 00:05:31,587 Speaker 4: excited by taking on this new opportunity and you know, 115 00:05:31,667 --> 00:05:34,027 Speaker 4: to be honest with him, stepping into another team gives 116 00:05:34,067 --> 00:05:35,947 Speaker 4: us a really exciting opportunity for the Black Fails to 117 00:05:36,307 --> 00:05:39,467 Speaker 4: bring in a really young, kind of high performing Kiwi 118 00:05:39,547 --> 00:05:41,667 Speaker 4: and you know, try and keep evolving our team as well. 119 00:05:41,747 --> 00:05:44,387 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a little bit painful, some of those 120 00:05:44,387 --> 00:05:46,507 Speaker 4: decisions a little bit tricky at the time to figure 121 00:05:46,507 --> 00:05:48,107 Speaker 4: out a good way through. You know, I think we're 122 00:05:48,147 --> 00:05:49,507 Speaker 4: both really happy with where we've ended up. 123 00:05:49,627 --> 00:05:51,827 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the new high speed titanium 124 00:05:52,227 --> 00:05:55,507 Speaker 3: T foils in broad terms. First of all, how are they? 125 00:05:56,387 --> 00:06:00,227 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tiffany been a learned experience. It gives you 126 00:06:00,267 --> 00:06:03,227 Speaker 4: a whole other degree of freedom and the way you 127 00:06:03,267 --> 00:06:07,387 Speaker 4: can operate the foils with introducing aunction we call cant 128 00:06:07,507 --> 00:06:11,947 Speaker 4: that's kind of another way from the foils. And yeah, 129 00:06:11,947 --> 00:06:14,987 Speaker 4: also just kind of resets the playing field. And everyone's 130 00:06:14,987 --> 00:06:17,947 Speaker 4: got so much experience on the other foils that you know, 131 00:06:18,027 --> 00:06:19,707 Speaker 4: this is all kind of everyone starting from scratch and 132 00:06:19,707 --> 00:06:21,667 Speaker 4: trying to build up. So yeah, for us, it's been 133 00:06:21,707 --> 00:06:24,587 Speaker 4: a really exciting challenge over the last what is it 134 00:06:24,667 --> 00:06:26,787 Speaker 4: for four days to try and pick that up? And 135 00:06:27,227 --> 00:06:29,067 Speaker 4: how excited to try and go see if we can 136 00:06:29,067 --> 00:06:30,707 Speaker 4: execute what we've learned on the race course today? 137 00:06:30,747 --> 00:06:32,747 Speaker 3: Do you reckon or have you got up over one 138 00:06:32,787 --> 00:06:33,267 Speaker 3: hundred k? 139 00:06:33,747 --> 00:06:36,587 Speaker 4: Now the quick three beings about ninety seventy five something 140 00:06:36,627 --> 00:06:40,027 Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, I'm not sure you'll see one hundred 141 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:41,947 Speaker 4: k this weekend, to be honest, doesn't quite look windy 142 00:06:41,947 --> 00:06:44,307 Speaker 4: in the forecast. Windy enough in the forecast looks windy, 143 00:06:44,387 --> 00:06:47,627 Speaker 4: not windy enough for top top speeds. But yeah, they 144 00:06:47,667 --> 00:06:49,987 Speaker 4: are pretty awesome bittle equipment, and I'm sure you get 145 00:06:49,987 --> 00:06:53,147 Speaker 4: people seeing increasing their comfort levels on on how to 146 00:06:53,227 --> 00:06:54,867 Speaker 4: use them, how to get the most out of them. 147 00:06:54,907 --> 00:06:56,627 Speaker 4: You'll start seeing that speed go up and up. 148 00:06:57,067 --> 00:07:00,947 Speaker 3: As you go faster and everyone else goes faster. How 149 00:07:01,027 --> 00:07:05,067 Speaker 3: much are any mistakes you make, any errors? How much 150 00:07:05,067 --> 00:07:07,667 Speaker 3: are they magnified in terms of consequences when you're going 151 00:07:07,947 --> 00:07:08,787 Speaker 3: just that bit quicker. 152 00:07:09,347 --> 00:07:14,787 Speaker 4: Oh, anything you do gets its magnified massively, both in 153 00:07:14,867 --> 00:07:16,427 Speaker 4: terms of where you put the boat on the racetrack. 154 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:18,787 Speaker 4: You know, being in more pressure than someone else gets 155 00:07:18,787 --> 00:07:21,947 Speaker 4: sets magnified massively because your speed change from that that 156 00:07:21,987 --> 00:07:24,307 Speaker 4: puff's a lot bigger. But then you also if you 157 00:07:24,347 --> 00:07:26,267 Speaker 4: make a mistake on the boat handing or or just 158 00:07:26,347 --> 00:07:28,627 Speaker 4: general sailing, that gets magnified as well, just because your 159 00:07:28,707 --> 00:07:31,307 Speaker 4: your total speed's at that little bit greater. So yeah, 160 00:07:31,347 --> 00:07:32,747 Speaker 4: it's really going to be about you know, trying to 161 00:07:32,747 --> 00:07:34,787 Speaker 4: put the boat in the right part of the racecourse. 162 00:07:34,867 --> 00:07:36,947 Speaker 4: But then you also say, look really fast and clean, 163 00:07:37,067 --> 00:07:39,627 Speaker 4: So it's you're going to be challenging on this tight racecourse. 164 00:07:39,627 --> 00:07:42,467 Speaker 4: Behind us here it's a little bit shifty and dynamic, 165 00:07:42,787 --> 00:07:44,907 Speaker 4: not too crazy, but little bit shifty and dynamics are 166 00:07:44,907 --> 00:07:47,587 Speaker 4: just enough in it, and yeah, should make for some 167 00:07:47,627 --> 00:07:49,067 Speaker 4: pretty awesome racing with eleven butts. 168 00:07:49,147 --> 00:07:51,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was going to mention the two extra teams. 169 00:07:51,107 --> 00:07:53,107 Speaker 3: Obviously we haven't seen France yet and we look forward 170 00:07:53,107 --> 00:07:56,667 Speaker 3: to them rejoining hopefully in Sydney. But even with the leven, 171 00:07:56,747 --> 00:08:00,027 Speaker 3: even with ten, it was crowded with twelve. How crowded 172 00:08:00,107 --> 00:08:01,707 Speaker 3: is that race course going to be, particularly somebody like 173 00:08:01,707 --> 00:08:03,267 Speaker 3: this where it's quite tight anyway. 174 00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:06,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, personally I kind of noticed more of a difference 175 00:08:06,427 --> 00:08:08,947 Speaker 4: from like six or seven up to ten. Then you 176 00:08:08,987 --> 00:08:10,827 Speaker 4: know when you have those extra couple in because it's 177 00:08:11,387 --> 00:08:13,507 Speaker 4: I mean with ten, it's so crowded anyway, there's so 178 00:08:13,507 --> 00:08:15,867 Speaker 4: many boats around, and they tend to just make the 179 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:19,027 Speaker 4: start line that a little bit longer, So yeah, they 180 00:08:19,027 --> 00:08:20,547 Speaker 4: give us a little more space, gets filled with a 181 00:08:20,547 --> 00:08:24,827 Speaker 4: few more boats, and yeah, the start side don't seem 182 00:08:24,907 --> 00:08:27,067 Speaker 4: to find two different but yeah, it's more around the 183 00:08:27,067 --> 00:08:29,027 Speaker 4: course just you know, there's there's so many boats there, 184 00:08:29,027 --> 00:08:30,347 Speaker 4: so if you don't get off the line, well it's 185 00:08:30,387 --> 00:08:32,427 Speaker 4: a bit of a long journey back through. But you 186 00:08:32,427 --> 00:08:34,427 Speaker 4: know that's part of SALGP. If you don't get off 187 00:08:34,467 --> 00:08:36,067 Speaker 4: the line, you've got to be able to gain those 188 00:08:36,067 --> 00:08:38,987 Speaker 4: couple of boats, and generally our finals decided by a 189 00:08:38,987 --> 00:08:41,307 Speaker 4: couple of points. Every points pretty critically out there. 190 00:08:41,347 --> 00:08:43,747 Speaker 3: If you don't lead, let's say, at the first mark, 191 00:08:43,787 --> 00:08:46,107 Speaker 3: how challenging is it to move through the field and 192 00:08:46,147 --> 00:08:47,107 Speaker 3: the remainder of the race. 193 00:08:47,787 --> 00:08:50,227 Speaker 4: Ah well, I think in general with these boards it's 194 00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:51,667 Speaker 4: been you know, what you've seen in the last couple 195 00:08:51,667 --> 00:08:53,387 Speaker 4: of days, it's pretty easy to go backwards all forwards 196 00:08:53,387 --> 00:08:57,267 Speaker 4: through the fleet, depending on how well you sail. Yeah, traditionally, 197 00:08:57,467 --> 00:08:58,707 Speaker 4: you know, if you lead at mark one, you should 198 00:08:58,707 --> 00:09:00,227 Speaker 4: win the race, but we haven't really been seeing that 199 00:09:00,267 --> 00:09:01,787 Speaker 4: over the last couple of days. You know, people have 200 00:09:01,827 --> 00:09:04,667 Speaker 4: been either sailing really well through the fleet or going 201 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:07,507 Speaker 4: backwards pretty quickly. So yeah, it's really up continuing to 202 00:09:07,507 --> 00:09:09,827 Speaker 4: put together a really clean race, continue to make smart 203 00:09:09,827 --> 00:09:12,547 Speaker 4: decisions and sail the boat well and obviously start makes 204 00:09:12,547 --> 00:09:14,707 Speaker 4: your life a lot easier in that. But yeah, definitely 205 00:09:14,707 --> 00:09:16,147 Speaker 4: if you're back you up plenty of opportunities. 206 00:09:16,427 --> 00:09:18,227 Speaker 3: And Sir Russell Cooch has talked in the last few 207 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:20,707 Speaker 3: days about a split fleet format, which I think has 208 00:09:20,707 --> 00:09:23,667 Speaker 3: been trialed a fan. They've found that. I guess the 209 00:09:23,747 --> 00:09:25,787 Speaker 3: few are on the racecourse the better or not. 210 00:09:26,307 --> 00:09:27,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think it's some stage you're going to 211 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:31,027 Speaker 4: have to do it. Obviously. The league's got ambitions to 212 00:09:31,147 --> 00:09:34,427 Speaker 4: kind of keep adding our boats to start line. And 213 00:09:34,467 --> 00:09:35,627 Speaker 4: you know, if you want to come to really cool 214 00:09:35,667 --> 00:09:38,227 Speaker 4: venues like this that are in a city, you know, 215 00:09:38,267 --> 00:09:40,667 Speaker 4: on these these tight, kind of compact racetracks, at some 216 00:09:40,707 --> 00:09:43,627 Speaker 4: stage it gets to too many boats. You know where 217 00:09:43,627 --> 00:09:45,947 Speaker 4: that that point is who knows. And you know, if 218 00:09:45,987 --> 00:09:47,667 Speaker 4: you've got an odd number of boats, who knows how 219 00:09:47,667 --> 00:09:49,347 Speaker 4: you're going to do it as well. So yeah, it's 220 00:09:49,347 --> 00:09:50,907 Speaker 4: all stuff that you know. I think it's great the 221 00:09:51,027 --> 00:09:54,707 Speaker 4: league's kind of exploring these options, trialing them. But yeah, 222 00:09:54,747 --> 00:09:56,827 Speaker 4: for this weekend, we're back to kind of standing configuration, 223 00:09:57,227 --> 00:09:59,707 Speaker 4: leaving boats on start line, just like in Dubai and 224 00:10:00,267 --> 00:10:00,867 Speaker 4: when it takes all. 225 00:10:01,547 --> 00:10:04,507 Speaker 3: How much did your third place finish at the season 226 00:10:04,547 --> 00:10:06,067 Speaker 3: four finale hurt? 227 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:10,667 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think between second and third it doesn't really 228 00:10:10,707 --> 00:10:12,387 Speaker 4: make too much difference, to be honest, but you know, 229 00:10:12,427 --> 00:10:14,107 Speaker 4: we really tried for the one. You know, we got 230 00:10:14,187 --> 00:10:16,747 Speaker 4: quite aggressive on the start line, won the loward end 231 00:10:16,747 --> 00:10:19,707 Speaker 4: and then yeah, kind of ended up not quite quick 232 00:10:19,747 --> 00:10:22,787 Speaker 4: enough to hold it down to mark one, and but yeah, 233 00:10:22,787 --> 00:10:26,347 Speaker 4: it's really frustrating to not sailor I suppose two hour 234 00:10:26,467 --> 00:10:31,187 Speaker 4: expectations and then that final not quite make the best 235 00:10:31,187 --> 00:10:33,307 Speaker 4: decisions around the race street, not quite sailors SMOOTHI as 236 00:10:33,307 --> 00:10:35,027 Speaker 4: we did, and to be honest, we felt a little 237 00:10:35,027 --> 00:10:37,707 Speaker 4: bit uncomfortable that whole weekend through San Frian. We never 238 00:10:37,787 --> 00:10:40,467 Speaker 4: really got you know, I think it's comfortable as particularly 239 00:10:40,507 --> 00:10:42,987 Speaker 4: Australians on there that high speed board configuration with the 240 00:10:43,067 --> 00:10:45,867 Speaker 4: twenty four meter wing. So yeah, for us, it's definitely 241 00:10:45,867 --> 00:10:48,267 Speaker 4: frustrating considering how big a lead we had on the 242 00:10:48,307 --> 00:10:51,067 Speaker 4: season leader board going into it. But you know we'll 243 00:10:51,147 --> 00:10:53,347 Speaker 4: learn from it. We'll be at stronger and you know, 244 00:10:53,387 --> 00:10:55,347 Speaker 4: looking forward to to trying to give another crack this 245 00:10:55,387 --> 00:10:56,147 Speaker 4: season in WW. 246 00:10:56,347 --> 00:10:57,707 Speaker 3: All right, just a couple more for you. See he 247 00:10:57,707 --> 00:11:00,387 Speaker 3: had Liam Lawson and the team base yesterday. Are you 248 00:11:00,347 --> 00:11:02,867 Speaker 3: you're keen to do a driver swap scheme, get behind 249 00:11:02,907 --> 00:11:05,867 Speaker 3: a Formula one wheel and let him drive the year fifty? 250 00:11:06,507 --> 00:11:07,987 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it'd be more nervous. So I'm going 251 00:11:08,027 --> 00:11:09,387 Speaker 4: to be more nervous in the car than he would 252 00:11:09,467 --> 00:11:13,067 Speaker 4: on the boat. But yeah, I mean, what an awesome 253 00:11:13,067 --> 00:11:15,867 Speaker 4: opportunity for young Key. We looking forward to cheering him 254 00:11:15,867 --> 00:11:18,027 Speaker 4: on this season. It's going to be epic to see 255 00:11:18,027 --> 00:11:20,627 Speaker 4: what he can do in an awesome car and yeah, 256 00:11:20,747 --> 00:11:21,467 Speaker 4: exciting times. 257 00:11:21,507 --> 00:11:23,467 Speaker 3: And just to finish, I know there are fourteen events, 258 00:11:23,467 --> 00:11:25,707 Speaker 3: but how special is your home event? 259 00:11:26,707 --> 00:11:29,227 Speaker 4: Home events so special? And you know, especially having had 260 00:11:29,827 --> 00:11:32,587 Speaker 4: in New Zealands bigger city. I mean we've had I 261 00:11:32,587 --> 00:11:35,987 Speaker 4: suppose absolutely amazing events down in christ It's in order 262 00:11:35,987 --> 00:11:38,467 Speaker 4: to tarchy the last couple of seasons, but you know, 263 00:11:38,747 --> 00:11:41,387 Speaker 4: to change up to Auktlin now have their debut up 264 00:11:41,427 --> 00:11:44,147 Speaker 4: here and you know, right in the downtown of the city. 265 00:11:44,227 --> 00:11:46,627 Speaker 4: And I think even seeing the helicopter shots with the 266 00:11:46,667 --> 00:11:48,787 Speaker 4: city scape in the background, the Harvard Bridge and you know, 267 00:11:48,867 --> 00:11:52,507 Speaker 4: out to wider Auckland's pretty incredible. This face course we've 268 00:11:52,507 --> 00:11:54,227 Speaker 4: got here and looking forward to putting on a good show. 269 00:11:54,307 --> 00:11:57,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, everybody's looking forward to to watching the aforementioned 270 00:11:57,627 --> 00:12:00,347 Speaker 3: helicopter going overhead at the moment. Peter, thanks for making 271 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:03,067 Speaker 3: yourself available to us on day one here at sale 272 00:12:03,107 --> 00:12:05,187 Speaker 3: GP and Auckland all the best, mate, We'll all be cheering. 273 00:12:04,987 --> 00:12:07,667 Speaker 4: For your thanks eats the enjoy the show. 274 00:12:07,827 --> 00:12:10,907 Speaker 3: We certainly will. Peter Burling, their driver co CEO of 275 00:12:11,227 --> 00:12:14,267 Speaker 3: the Black Foils joining us on our special broadcast Weekend 276 00:12:14,307 --> 00:12:17,707 Speaker 3: Sport from sale GP on the wine Yard on Windyard 277 00:12:17,747 --> 00:12:19,587 Speaker 3: Point here the Media Center, twelve nineteen. 278 00:12:19,627 --> 00:12:23,787 Speaker 1: We're back after this, the most exciting racing on water 279 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,627 Speaker 1: leaves the most exciting sports radio show, Weekend Sport with 280 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:30,947 Speaker 1: Jason five live from sale. 281 00:12:30,787 --> 00:12:33,587 Speaker 2: GP and when You're Pointed Auckland with GJ. 282 00:12:33,827 --> 00:12:37,987 Speaker 1: Gunnomes New Zealand's most trust in home builder News Talks IVY. 283 00:12:38,307 --> 00:12:40,707 Speaker 3: The twelve twenty two on News Talks edb as Weekend 284 00:12:40,747 --> 00:12:43,067 Speaker 3: Sport comes to you live from sale GP and Auckland 285 00:12:43,147 --> 00:12:45,187 Speaker 3: Racing underway at four o'clock this afternoon. There will be 286 00:12:45,267 --> 00:12:48,787 Speaker 3: three fleet races today, a further to tomorrow, and then 287 00:12:48,827 --> 00:12:52,947 Speaker 3: the top three go into a final where the final 288 00:12:53,027 --> 00:12:55,667 Speaker 3: points are handed out. Chris Reeve has been covering sailing, 289 00:12:56,307 --> 00:13:00,907 Speaker 3: the America's Cup and other various sailing events for quite 290 00:13:00,987 --> 00:13:04,547 Speaker 3: some time. He is all over sale GP, but he's 291 00:13:04,547 --> 00:13:06,627 Speaker 3: popped in through a chaut Nice to see him, man thing, 292 00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:10,547 Speaker 3: So thanks for making me follow Pete too? Well, what 293 00:13:10,667 --> 00:13:11,307 Speaker 3: a guy follow? 294 00:13:11,427 --> 00:13:11,467 Speaker 4: What? 295 00:13:12,067 --> 00:13:14,267 Speaker 3: What a guy to have as a leadoff for us. 296 00:13:14,907 --> 00:13:17,307 Speaker 3: How important is Peter building to the Black Foils. 297 00:13:17,827 --> 00:13:20,947 Speaker 5: I mean, having an experienced driver like Pete is huge 298 00:13:21,027 --> 00:13:25,707 Speaker 5: in this league, particularly given you know, experienced drivers are 299 00:13:25,747 --> 00:13:28,467 Speaker 5: the ones who lead the fleet. You asked them before 300 00:13:28,547 --> 00:13:30,787 Speaker 5: about you know how hard it is to make your 301 00:13:30,827 --> 00:13:32,587 Speaker 5: way from the back of the fleet to come through 302 00:13:33,027 --> 00:13:33,627 Speaker 5: season one. 303 00:13:34,027 --> 00:13:34,987 Speaker 3: They couldn't do that. 304 00:13:35,067 --> 00:13:37,947 Speaker 5: But now Pete's got that experience and they're a team 305 00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:38,907 Speaker 5: who if they start at. 306 00:13:38,867 --> 00:13:40,787 Speaker 6: The back, you know they're going to work their way forward. 307 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:44,547 Speaker 6: So having a guy like them is just great for anything. 308 00:13:44,947 --> 00:13:47,227 Speaker 6: It's not like a race car, though, is it, where 309 00:13:47,227 --> 00:13:48,987 Speaker 6: you put your foot down in a way you go. 310 00:13:49,227 --> 00:13:50,947 Speaker 6: It's not as simple as that when you're trying to 311 00:13:50,987 --> 00:13:53,947 Speaker 6: read wind shifts and things like that. So how are 312 00:13:54,547 --> 00:13:56,627 Speaker 6: teams like the Black Foils and the other top teams 313 00:13:56,747 --> 00:13:59,467 Speaker 6: so effective at putting the foot down? 314 00:13:59,787 --> 00:14:02,147 Speaker 3: I think if you ask them, they'd say the same thing. 315 00:14:02,227 --> 00:14:03,667 Speaker 3: It's just just time together. 316 00:14:04,267 --> 00:14:07,027 Speaker 5: Communication is huge, and a lot of the teams who 317 00:14:07,067 --> 00:14:10,227 Speaker 5: have I guess spent a little while together, they don't 318 00:14:10,227 --> 00:14:12,987 Speaker 5: really need to communicate at all. I spoke to French 319 00:14:13,067 --> 00:14:15,747 Speaker 5: driver Canton de Lapierre and he was saying that, you know, 320 00:14:15,907 --> 00:14:18,587 Speaker 5: they don't really talk at all. Now they know what 321 00:14:18,787 --> 00:14:21,067 Speaker 5: everyone does, they know what they need to do, and 322 00:14:21,387 --> 00:14:23,027 Speaker 5: they're all on the same page. And that's the same 323 00:14:23,027 --> 00:14:25,267 Speaker 5: with guys like the Black Foils, Like you have a 324 00:14:25,347 --> 00:14:27,747 Speaker 5: team like Pete and Blair that've been together for a 325 00:14:27,787 --> 00:14:28,267 Speaker 5: long time. 326 00:14:28,627 --> 00:14:29,227 Speaker 3: Live McKay. 327 00:14:29,467 --> 00:14:32,307 Speaker 5: She's been in the strategy's seat for basically the whole 328 00:14:32,347 --> 00:14:35,067 Speaker 5: time this team has existed. She knows what she's looking 329 00:14:35,147 --> 00:14:38,347 Speaker 5: for and yeah, she her input is huge to this 330 00:14:38,467 --> 00:14:38,987 Speaker 5: team as well. 331 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:41,987 Speaker 3: And given that, then when there is a change and 332 00:14:42,427 --> 00:14:45,947 Speaker 3: a very experienced sailor comes out, a guy who you 333 00:14:46,027 --> 00:14:48,307 Speaker 3: know Peter Berling, Blairchuk and the others on the boat 334 00:14:48,307 --> 00:14:50,467 Speaker 3: of work with Andy Maloney? Of course he's with the 335 00:14:50,547 --> 00:14:53,827 Speaker 3: new Brazilian team. Now Leo taka Hashi comes in, let's 336 00:14:53,867 --> 00:14:56,107 Speaker 3: do this in stages. How big a loss is Andy Maloney? 337 00:14:56,187 --> 00:14:59,027 Speaker 5: First of all, well, I think he's quite a big loss. 338 00:14:59,627 --> 00:15:01,627 Speaker 5: We've seen out here in the last couple of days 339 00:15:01,667 --> 00:15:04,707 Speaker 5: that the Brazilian team have been able to find pace 340 00:15:04,827 --> 00:15:07,067 Speaker 5: really quickly on these new Foil and I think that 341 00:15:07,187 --> 00:15:11,027 Speaker 5: comes down to who's controlling the flights over there. He 342 00:15:11,187 --> 00:15:13,467 Speaker 5: knows what he's doing now that they've got the new 343 00:15:13,507 --> 00:15:16,627 Speaker 5: ones they've got they can play with candor angles. He's 344 00:15:16,707 --> 00:15:19,067 Speaker 5: done all that for Team New Zealand as well, So 345 00:15:19,187 --> 00:15:22,867 Speaker 5: he comes into a team with new gear and just 346 00:15:23,147 --> 00:15:26,707 Speaker 5: a whole range of skill that can help that team immediately. 347 00:15:27,187 --> 00:15:29,507 Speaker 5: And Leo, he's been with the Team New Zealand and 348 00:15:29,547 --> 00:15:33,307 Speaker 5: the youth stage. He helped them with development kind of 349 00:15:33,387 --> 00:15:36,827 Speaker 5: out here on the Whitemata Harbor. He's not a newbie 350 00:15:36,907 --> 00:15:40,667 Speaker 5: to sal GP. So in terms of a replacement, that's 351 00:15:40,747 --> 00:15:42,667 Speaker 5: probably as good as you could hope. 352 00:15:42,507 --> 00:15:47,027 Speaker 3: For the Brazilian team. Then a startup you said before, 353 00:15:47,067 --> 00:15:50,027 Speaker 3: it takes a while to get those comps together, a 354 00:15:50,107 --> 00:15:54,107 Speaker 3: few different nationalities on that boat as well. How long 355 00:15:55,547 --> 00:15:59,107 Speaker 3: will it take them to reach their potential do you think? 356 00:15:59,227 --> 00:16:01,547 Speaker 3: I mean, what will success look like for them in 357 00:16:01,587 --> 00:16:04,507 Speaker 3: season one for example? Yeah, it's a good question. 358 00:16:05,347 --> 00:16:07,467 Speaker 5: I guess it all comes to onto how much work 359 00:16:07,747 --> 00:16:09,827 Speaker 5: they put in, Like, they don't get a lot of 360 00:16:09,907 --> 00:16:11,787 Speaker 5: time on these boats, and I think that's the big 361 00:16:11,907 --> 00:16:14,787 Speaker 5: issue coming through. Any team will tell you that time 362 00:16:14,867 --> 00:16:19,267 Speaker 5: on the water is crucial to development, and usually they 363 00:16:19,347 --> 00:16:21,347 Speaker 5: only get two or three days before an event. 364 00:16:21,467 --> 00:16:22,067 Speaker 3: It's been a. 365 00:16:22,107 --> 00:16:25,147 Speaker 5: Little bit unusual here in Auckland that because they've all 366 00:16:25,227 --> 00:16:27,347 Speaker 5: been trying to get out on the tfoils. They were 367 00:16:27,347 --> 00:16:29,707 Speaker 5: all early, they've had the full week to work, but 368 00:16:30,227 --> 00:16:33,627 Speaker 5: usually that's not the case. So yeah, putting in the work, 369 00:16:34,547 --> 00:16:35,867 Speaker 5: that's really what it comes down to. 370 00:16:36,507 --> 00:16:39,987 Speaker 3: The tfoils. Everybody's been talking about them this week, You've 371 00:16:39,987 --> 00:16:43,547 Speaker 3: written about them. They're all learning about them, aren't they. 372 00:16:44,067 --> 00:16:46,467 Speaker 3: How much will that change the dynamic of this weekend, 373 00:16:46,627 --> 00:16:48,587 Speaker 3: the fact that they're all learning something pretty new. 374 00:16:49,267 --> 00:16:52,507 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it makes it very interesting, particularly with 375 00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:55,507 Speaker 5: them still having eleven boats on the race course. I 376 00:16:55,507 --> 00:16:58,027 Speaker 5: would have liked to have seen how that all happened 377 00:16:58,507 --> 00:17:01,707 Speaker 5: in practice, but they did the split feet split fleet 378 00:17:01,867 --> 00:17:05,467 Speaker 5: format again yesterday, so we don't really know how it's 379 00:17:05,547 --> 00:17:08,027 Speaker 5: gonna affect to the full fleet, so that could be 380 00:17:08,107 --> 00:17:11,507 Speaker 5: quite interesting today. Some of them have been talking about 381 00:17:11,947 --> 00:17:14,547 Speaker 5: they feel a lot more stable, but they are a 382 00:17:14,627 --> 00:17:18,107 Speaker 5: lot faster, you know, there's less drag, so it'll be 383 00:17:18,227 --> 00:17:18,907 Speaker 5: very interesting to. 384 00:17:18,907 --> 00:17:22,507 Speaker 3: See how that comes into plint. Eleven boats on this 385 00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:26,627 Speaker 3: racecourse could have been twelve affronts had not fallen foul 386 00:17:26,667 --> 00:17:30,307 Speaker 3: of some gear malfunctions. But they'll be back. I mean 387 00:17:30,427 --> 00:17:32,667 Speaker 3: ten boats on the racecourse was a lot seven's a 388 00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:34,947 Speaker 3: lot eleven out there? What's it going to be like 389 00:17:35,027 --> 00:17:35,347 Speaker 3: out there? 390 00:17:36,267 --> 00:17:38,547 Speaker 5: Starting is going to be key today. If you get behind, 391 00:17:39,307 --> 00:17:41,387 Speaker 5: I honestly don't know if there's enough space for you 392 00:17:41,507 --> 00:17:43,347 Speaker 5: to move to the front to the fleet. You might 393 00:17:43,387 --> 00:17:45,547 Speaker 5: be able to make up a few spots. But it's 394 00:17:45,627 --> 00:17:47,707 Speaker 5: going to be very tired out there, and everyone's going 395 00:17:47,787 --> 00:17:50,387 Speaker 5: to be sort of elbows out jostling for position at 396 00:17:50,427 --> 00:17:54,027 Speaker 5: the starting line. Once you get a lead, you got 397 00:17:54,147 --> 00:17:56,547 Speaker 5: to hold it, so no mistakes. And we saw in 398 00:17:56,587 --> 00:17:59,747 Speaker 5: practice racing that because they're still getting accustomed to these 399 00:17:59,787 --> 00:18:02,827 Speaker 5: new foils, there have been a few splashdowns, a few 400 00:18:03,227 --> 00:18:07,427 Speaker 5: near capsizes, so it will come down to controlling your 401 00:18:07,467 --> 00:18:09,547 Speaker 5: position if you do happen to get one. 402 00:18:09,707 --> 00:18:12,347 Speaker 3: I hear that phrase a lot elbows out? What does 403 00:18:12,427 --> 00:18:15,107 Speaker 3: it actually mean? Is it just mean blocking someone else's way? 404 00:18:15,227 --> 00:18:15,907 Speaker 3: Is that what it means? 405 00:18:15,987 --> 00:18:16,187 Speaker 7: Yeah? 406 00:18:16,467 --> 00:18:19,227 Speaker 5: Holding you holding your spot, like if someone's challenging you 407 00:18:19,307 --> 00:18:22,027 Speaker 5: for the position, you don't let them pass you. It's 408 00:18:22,147 --> 00:18:24,467 Speaker 5: it's where tactics come into it. It's good, good old 409 00:18:24,467 --> 00:18:25,627 Speaker 5: fashioned match racing. 410 00:18:25,867 --> 00:18:29,707 Speaker 3: And the rounding of the of the marks. Things like that. 411 00:18:29,907 --> 00:18:31,747 Speaker 3: It can, it can get a bit messy, Canda. Do 412 00:18:31,827 --> 00:18:35,827 Speaker 3: you think that there's ever any I don't know. I'm 413 00:18:36,067 --> 00:18:39,227 Speaker 3: looking sideways at other boats with you know, what are you? 414 00:18:39,467 --> 00:18:40,547 Speaker 3: What are you up to here? Mate? 415 00:18:40,627 --> 00:18:45,307 Speaker 5: Then that goes on out there. Absolutely, yeah, that definitely happens. 416 00:18:45,347 --> 00:18:47,667 Speaker 5: But of course that's what we have the umbires for. 417 00:18:47,947 --> 00:18:50,627 Speaker 5: And you know, if we get in positions like that, 418 00:18:50,787 --> 00:18:53,187 Speaker 5: then that's where the penalty system comes into play. So 419 00:18:53,747 --> 00:18:55,467 Speaker 5: at times you might be able to play for that 420 00:18:55,627 --> 00:18:57,947 Speaker 5: sort of thing and use it to your advantage. But 421 00:18:58,627 --> 00:19:01,227 Speaker 5: what's good about I guess this this course out here? 422 00:19:01,347 --> 00:19:03,227 Speaker 5: You know you are going to be able to split 423 00:19:04,027 --> 00:19:07,787 Speaker 5: the split, split the course and opportunities either side. So 424 00:19:07,787 --> 00:19:10,307 Speaker 5: it'd be very interesting to see kind of how the 425 00:19:10,427 --> 00:19:12,427 Speaker 5: tactics come into play in that aspect. 426 00:19:12,827 --> 00:19:16,587 Speaker 3: Does home advantage mean anything here? I think so. 427 00:19:16,907 --> 00:19:19,707 Speaker 5: It's a very different racecourse to Dubai and the fact 428 00:19:19,747 --> 00:19:22,747 Speaker 5: there's actually some wind here, we're going to see some foiling, 429 00:19:23,347 --> 00:19:26,067 Speaker 5: so having the experience it's a brand new race course 430 00:19:26,107 --> 00:19:29,987 Speaker 5: as well, they should the blackfoil should really know a 431 00:19:30,067 --> 00:19:32,187 Speaker 5: lot more about it than the other guys coming in, 432 00:19:32,387 --> 00:19:34,827 Speaker 5: So I think that could play a part if they 433 00:19:34,907 --> 00:19:37,427 Speaker 5: can keep the boat sort of going how it's meant to. 434 00:19:37,707 --> 00:19:40,827 Speaker 3: And who are their biggest competitors likely to be across 435 00:19:40,827 --> 00:19:42,827 Speaker 3: the weekend. Definitely Australia. 436 00:19:42,947 --> 00:19:45,507 Speaker 5: They have looked very, very good in the last couple 437 00:19:45,507 --> 00:19:47,707 Speaker 5: of days, I think, and I think they've had six 438 00:19:47,827 --> 00:19:49,867 Speaker 5: practice races and they won all six of them. 439 00:19:50,387 --> 00:19:52,507 Speaker 3: So Tom Slingsby knows what he's doing. 440 00:19:52,947 --> 00:19:56,347 Speaker 5: He's won SALGP three times already. He's going to be 441 00:19:56,627 --> 00:19:59,347 Speaker 5: the one to look out for and the rest of them, 442 00:19:59,427 --> 00:20:01,507 Speaker 5: they're still coming along. I think Great Britain could go 443 00:20:01,627 --> 00:20:04,907 Speaker 5: quite well this weekend. Spain looked pretty good yesterday until 444 00:20:04,947 --> 00:20:07,707 Speaker 5: they had to stop race. Denmark won a couple of 445 00:20:07,787 --> 00:20:11,227 Speaker 5: races yesterday which was a little bit surprising, so you 446 00:20:11,307 --> 00:20:13,307 Speaker 5: could see one of those mino teams just really get 447 00:20:13,347 --> 00:20:16,067 Speaker 5: the hang of it quickly and surprise a few people. 448 00:20:16,547 --> 00:20:18,587 Speaker 3: Thomas Slingsby, I'm gonna have him on the radio in 449 00:20:18,627 --> 00:20:19,947 Speaker 3: the next little while. But it seems like a bit 450 00:20:19,987 --> 00:20:22,187 Speaker 3: of a force of nature. It feels like if he 451 00:20:22,267 --> 00:20:24,827 Speaker 3: wants something to happen and he's on his game, that 452 00:20:25,027 --> 00:20:28,427 Speaker 3: thing will happen. How key is he to the Australian. 453 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:32,667 Speaker 5: Team, Oh, he's much like Peter Is to the Black Boils, 454 00:20:32,747 --> 00:20:37,587 Speaker 5: Thomas to the Australians. He's very very competitive man and 455 00:20:38,827 --> 00:20:40,827 Speaker 5: he's known for sort of the red mist on board. 456 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:43,827 Speaker 5: You know, he's taken no prisoner's sort of attitude and 457 00:20:44,147 --> 00:20:45,987 Speaker 5: you know that that works really well for him and 458 00:20:46,067 --> 00:20:49,747 Speaker 5: his team. They lost a key member as well, Kyle 459 00:20:49,827 --> 00:20:52,507 Speaker 5: Langford went over to the Italians, so they're still sort 460 00:20:52,547 --> 00:20:54,107 Speaker 5: of coming to terms with a new group as well, 461 00:20:54,227 --> 00:20:57,987 Speaker 5: but I think they'll be pretty pretty competitive this weekend. 462 00:20:58,027 --> 00:21:00,187 Speaker 3: Do you like the transfer market system that has seen 463 00:21:00,307 --> 00:21:04,107 Speaker 3: the likes of Langford, you know, any Maloney move, Joel 464 00:21:04,147 --> 00:21:07,027 Speaker 3: Scott's gone from Great Britain to Canada. Do you like 465 00:21:07,107 --> 00:21:09,907 Speaker 3: the concept? I love a transfer market. It makes things 466 00:21:10,107 --> 00:21:10,747 Speaker 3: very interesting. 467 00:21:10,907 --> 00:21:14,547 Speaker 5: Draft do yeah, Well, Russell Couts has talked about bringing 468 00:21:14,587 --> 00:21:18,067 Speaker 5: in a sailor draft as well in the future, so hey, 469 00:21:18,107 --> 00:21:21,147 Speaker 5: don't count it out. But I think anything to keep 470 00:21:21,227 --> 00:21:24,227 Speaker 5: things interesting, try and level the playing field for some 471 00:21:24,347 --> 00:21:27,427 Speaker 5: of these developing teams, and I don't just give the 472 00:21:27,427 --> 00:21:29,507 Speaker 5: people something to talk about in the off season as well. 473 00:21:29,787 --> 00:21:33,187 Speaker 5: It all I guess that helps the league competitively, but 474 00:21:33,267 --> 00:21:36,587 Speaker 5: it also helps it in terms of fan support as well. 475 00:21:36,747 --> 00:21:37,507 Speaker 3: Fan engagement. 476 00:21:37,827 --> 00:21:40,307 Speaker 5: We see in the off season in American sports as well. 477 00:21:40,347 --> 00:21:43,507 Speaker 5: You know, people waiting for trade news and that's the 478 00:21:43,587 --> 00:21:45,547 Speaker 5: kind of thing we could get here in the future. 479 00:21:45,707 --> 00:21:48,347 Speaker 3: So season five, what do you think Sir Russell Coot's 480 00:21:48,427 --> 00:21:54,147 Speaker 3: vision for sale GPS. We've got twelve nations racing fourteen events. Well, 481 00:21:54,387 --> 00:21:57,507 Speaker 3: what do you think he would like to get it too? Oh, 482 00:21:57,627 --> 00:21:58,547 Speaker 3: you'd have to ask him. 483 00:21:58,627 --> 00:22:01,747 Speaker 5: He's already talked about bringing in another couple of teams 484 00:22:01,827 --> 00:22:06,147 Speaker 5: for next year potentially, you know, just as many teams 485 00:22:06,347 --> 00:22:09,147 Speaker 5: Gospel as much opportunities talked about it as I guess 486 00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:11,627 Speaker 5: filling filling a hole in the market for sailors, and 487 00:22:11,787 --> 00:22:14,227 Speaker 5: that's what we're really seeing now. You know, it started 488 00:22:14,267 --> 00:22:18,307 Speaker 5: with six teams, we've now got double that. When France rejoined, 489 00:22:18,787 --> 00:22:21,587 Speaker 5: we've had a lot more sailors sort of brought into 490 00:22:21,667 --> 00:22:25,627 Speaker 5: the fold now with the national the nationality. 491 00:22:25,187 --> 00:22:29,227 Speaker 3: Rules sort of easing. So yeah, I think just keep 492 00:22:29,307 --> 00:22:31,907 Speaker 3: growing and see where it goes. Can you see a 493 00:22:31,947 --> 00:22:35,027 Speaker 3: time where there would be two New Zealand events? I 494 00:22:35,107 --> 00:22:38,707 Speaker 3: don't see why not if the backing was there for it. 495 00:22:38,827 --> 00:22:40,907 Speaker 3: You know, they've I think they've got three in America 496 00:22:40,947 --> 00:22:43,587 Speaker 3: this year. Obviously A different market, but I think if 497 00:22:43,627 --> 00:22:45,947 Speaker 3: they bring in more more events, why not why not 498 00:22:46,027 --> 00:22:49,627 Speaker 3: have one north one south? Chris, it's an exciting weekend. 499 00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:52,067 Speaker 3: I know you've got plenty to do apart from talk 500 00:22:52,107 --> 00:22:53,627 Speaker 3: to me, so I appreciate you taking the time to 501 00:22:53,707 --> 00:22:55,227 Speaker 3: do that. Look forward to reading where your coverage at 502 00:22:55,227 --> 00:22:57,667 Speaker 3: Inmsey to Herald dot co dot mzeit anytime, mate. Thank 503 00:22:57,707 --> 00:22:59,667 Speaker 3: you very much, Thank you, Chris. Christopher Eve there as 504 00:22:59,707 --> 00:23:04,747 Speaker 3: I say, he's New Zealand Herald's sailing expert and read 505 00:23:04,827 --> 00:23:07,787 Speaker 3: his coverage in the paper online insit Herald dot co 506 00:23:08,027 --> 00:23:10,827 Speaker 3: dot NZ. Twenty eight away from one before one o'clock, 507 00:23:10,827 --> 00:23:12,627 Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Tom Slingsby, the driver of 508 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:17,027 Speaker 3: the Australian SALGP team, a three time winner of SALEGP. 509 00:23:17,507 --> 00:23:20,547 Speaker 3: Season four was in fact the first time the Australians 510 00:23:20,667 --> 00:23:23,747 Speaker 3: hadn't won the whole thing. So bouncing back from that, 511 00:23:24,307 --> 00:23:28,787 Speaker 3: how is Tom Slingsby feeling as they attack season five 512 00:23:29,147 --> 00:23:31,107 Speaker 3: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty air lines are open. 513 00:23:31,507 --> 00:23:33,067 Speaker 3: Always keen to hear from you if you're heading along 514 00:23:33,107 --> 00:23:35,747 Speaker 3: to Sale GP this afternoon. If you've got your tickets, 515 00:23:35,787 --> 00:23:37,907 Speaker 3: tell us about your excitement levels, what have been now 516 00:23:37,947 --> 00:23:40,027 Speaker 3: half past twelve or thereabouts, so three and a half 517 00:23:40,067 --> 00:23:42,827 Speaker 3: hours away from getting underway at four o'clock. There'll be 518 00:23:42,907 --> 00:23:45,867 Speaker 3: three fleet races. We're broadcasting from the media a center 519 00:23:45,907 --> 00:23:49,987 Speaker 3: which is alongside what is called the Adrenaline Lounge. Now, 520 00:23:50,027 --> 00:23:52,267 Speaker 3: the Adrenaline Lounge, I think is a fancy name of 521 00:23:52,307 --> 00:23:54,307 Speaker 3: where all the corporates are. And I had a bit 522 00:23:54,307 --> 00:23:56,907 Speaker 3: of a wander through there before and g it looked 523 00:23:56,947 --> 00:24:01,507 Speaker 3: absolutely amazing. And then above the Adrenaline Lounge there's this 524 00:24:01,707 --> 00:24:07,627 Speaker 3: absolutely magnificent eight thousand seat stadium which has been erected 525 00:24:08,067 --> 00:24:11,907 Speaker 3: specifically for this. And just as I look out on 526 00:24:11,987 --> 00:24:15,947 Speaker 3: Whatta Harbor, there's a boat going past with a helicopter 527 00:24:16,107 --> 00:24:19,467 Speaker 3: on the top. Now, I'll tell you what, you have 528 00:24:19,547 --> 00:24:21,147 Speaker 3: to have a lot of things before you buy a 529 00:24:21,187 --> 00:24:23,747 Speaker 3: boat that has a helicopter with it, but that that 530 00:24:23,867 --> 00:24:27,427 Speaker 3: particular family out there has got it no shortage of 531 00:24:28,707 --> 00:24:34,547 Speaker 3: expense spared out on harbor this afternoon. There are tickets 532 00:24:34,547 --> 00:24:37,467 Speaker 3: available which are called B y o B, which is 533 00:24:37,547 --> 00:24:39,947 Speaker 3: bring your own boat, and I think I think that 534 00:24:40,027 --> 00:24:43,987 Speaker 3: pretty much all snapped up. There were various different classes 535 00:24:44,067 --> 00:24:46,427 Speaker 3: in terms of the size of the boat that you 536 00:24:46,507 --> 00:24:49,107 Speaker 3: can that you can bring along. Clearly, there's you know, 537 00:24:49,147 --> 00:24:51,987 Speaker 3: there are rules you can only go to certain parts 538 00:24:52,027 --> 00:24:54,467 Speaker 3: of the race outside the race course. You can't go 539 00:24:54,907 --> 00:24:58,147 Speaker 3: on the race course. That's I think probably self evident. 540 00:24:58,227 --> 00:25:00,427 Speaker 3: But a lot of people have taken the opportunity to 541 00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:06,467 Speaker 3: to buy the b YO boat tickets and the the 542 00:25:06,547 --> 00:25:10,267 Speaker 3: ones in the grandstand have been absolutely snapped up, absolutely 543 00:25:10,307 --> 00:25:13,027 Speaker 3: snapped up. So gates open, I think here this afternoon 544 00:25:13,627 --> 00:25:15,987 Speaker 3: and very shortly have an open already there's a sal 545 00:25:16,067 --> 00:25:20,107 Speaker 3: GP compounds all sorts of things that you that you 546 00:25:20,187 --> 00:25:23,107 Speaker 3: can get yourself involved in before racing starts at four o'clock. 547 00:25:23,507 --> 00:25:26,067 Speaker 3: Hello grant here, poney. 548 00:25:26,587 --> 00:25:30,707 Speaker 8: I have to say I am completely opposite to the 549 00:25:30,787 --> 00:25:35,067 Speaker 8: last guy you had on opposed to the transfer market and. 550 00:25:36,667 --> 00:25:37,827 Speaker 9: Ten obviously the reasons. 551 00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:42,267 Speaker 8: One, to my mind, one of the big advantages of 552 00:25:43,747 --> 00:25:49,547 Speaker 8: the sal GP is that it's nation against nation and 553 00:25:50,547 --> 00:25:57,107 Speaker 8: everyone on the boat comes from that country. Now, you know, okay, 554 00:25:57,867 --> 00:26:00,507 Speaker 8: it's starting off with one transfer. 555 00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:04,627 Speaker 9: Like eventually, you know, we are we going to have Brazil, 556 00:26:05,067 --> 00:26:09,507 Speaker 9: say with not eventually with nine non Brazilians they might 557 00:26:09,547 --> 00:26:11,827 Speaker 9: win the competition. Are we going to say, oh, Brazil 558 00:26:11,907 --> 00:26:15,907 Speaker 9: has come up? No, A Brazilian boat who was ninety 559 00:26:15,947 --> 00:26:18,987 Speaker 9: percent of British and Australia and the New Zealanders have 560 00:26:19,067 --> 00:26:19,347 Speaker 9: come up. 561 00:26:19,427 --> 00:26:22,427 Speaker 8: So I actually I think it's a bad move. 562 00:26:22,827 --> 00:26:27,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a really interesting concept that has only 563 00:26:27,107 --> 00:26:29,867 Speaker 3: just started. It used to be, as you suggested their, Grant, 564 00:26:29,907 --> 00:26:31,547 Speaker 3: it used to be you had to be from the place, 565 00:26:31,827 --> 00:26:33,667 Speaker 3: had to be from the country to sail for that country. 566 00:26:33,947 --> 00:26:36,987 Speaker 3: I think what it's done is it's allowed sailors like 567 00:26:37,107 --> 00:26:39,067 Speaker 3: Andy Maloney. He's a great example. He's gone to the 568 00:26:39,107 --> 00:26:43,867 Speaker 3: Brazilian sale GP team, a startup and lent them their expertise, 569 00:26:43,987 --> 00:26:47,027 Speaker 3: so straight away they've got some, you know, some real 570 00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:49,947 Speaker 3: sailing experience on that boat. I take what you're saying, mate. 571 00:26:49,947 --> 00:26:52,867 Speaker 3: I'm a bit of a parochial gy myself, but I 572 00:26:52,907 --> 00:26:54,947 Speaker 3: think it's something that you will see continue and I 573 00:26:54,987 --> 00:26:58,107 Speaker 3: think what it'll do is it'll spread sailing expertise from 574 00:26:58,147 --> 00:27:01,987 Speaker 3: the likes of New Zealand, Australia, Great Britain, Spain across 575 00:27:02,067 --> 00:27:06,027 Speaker 3: the less experienced sailing groups and hopefully bring them up 576 00:27:06,027 --> 00:27:07,907 Speaker 3: to speed as well. Good to chat to you, Grant. 577 00:27:09,187 --> 00:27:12,347 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the lines. Tony, Hello, Hey, good Matte. 578 00:27:12,387 --> 00:27:12,707 Speaker 10: How are you. 579 00:27:13,107 --> 00:27:15,507 Speaker 3: I'm great, you've got some my producer's written here, you've 580 00:27:15,547 --> 00:27:18,827 Speaker 3: got some sale GP boat facts, so hit me. 581 00:27:19,147 --> 00:27:23,787 Speaker 10: Well, it's actually not sale GP. It's historic. You know 582 00:27:23,907 --> 00:27:28,667 Speaker 10: that in the eighties, well actually late seventies, early eighties, 583 00:27:28,747 --> 00:27:32,667 Speaker 10: we had a guy sailing off Herne Bay called Gary Pagent. 584 00:27:32,787 --> 00:27:36,827 Speaker 10: He had a foiling trim ran. As far as I know, 585 00:27:36,947 --> 00:27:40,347 Speaker 10: it was the first one of its type. So that's here. 586 00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:44,827 Speaker 10: That's a kiwi thing. So foiling multi holes isn't new. 587 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:48,667 Speaker 10: And then the second fact I'd like to introduce is 588 00:27:48,747 --> 00:27:52,747 Speaker 10: that in the mid sixties there were three international classes 589 00:27:52,827 --> 00:27:56,827 Speaker 10: of catamaran. The A class, which was open keys did 590 00:27:57,067 --> 00:28:00,547 Speaker 10: really well in that. There was the B class, which 591 00:28:00,867 --> 00:28:05,587 Speaker 10: was then became the Tornado and an Olympic class. And 592 00:28:05,747 --> 00:28:08,987 Speaker 10: then there was the International Sea Class, which was a 593 00:28:09,067 --> 00:28:14,347 Speaker 10: twenty five footer. Now mid to late sixties they had wings. 594 00:28:15,067 --> 00:28:17,507 Speaker 10: Now they got so damn good at it because they 595 00:28:17,587 --> 00:28:21,707 Speaker 10: got NASA on board that in the end the series 596 00:28:21,747 --> 00:28:27,507 Speaker 10: became defunct because no other country could compete with NASA 597 00:28:27,867 --> 00:28:30,947 Speaker 10: and their win technology that they were able to provide 598 00:28:31,027 --> 00:28:36,467 Speaker 10: the American teams. So whilst these boats are fantastic, I'm 599 00:28:36,507 --> 00:28:39,667 Speaker 10: a catsail themself, idle love to get right on one. 600 00:28:39,947 --> 00:28:42,227 Speaker 10: In fact, you haven't got a spare seat beside. 601 00:28:41,907 --> 00:28:42,307 Speaker 11: You have you. 602 00:28:48,027 --> 00:28:48,467 Speaker 12: So you know? 603 00:28:48,507 --> 00:28:52,827 Speaker 10: I mean these boats they're fantastic, but their fucker Pappa 604 00:28:53,507 --> 00:28:57,947 Speaker 10: is in many ways A the foiling of Gary Pagent 605 00:28:58,307 --> 00:29:03,307 Speaker 10: of Herne Bay, and B the International Sea Class which 606 00:29:03,507 --> 00:29:08,107 Speaker 10: we competed in Australia can and many people competing, but 607 00:29:08,267 --> 00:29:12,627 Speaker 10: in the end NASA gave the Americans the big boost 608 00:29:13,147 --> 00:29:17,627 Speaker 10: and it went out of it stopped. There was no 609 00:29:17,827 --> 00:29:22,627 Speaker 10: more C class, So you know, it's it's wonderful to 610 00:29:22,747 --> 00:29:24,907 Speaker 10: see these boats, but it's good to know where they 611 00:29:25,027 --> 00:29:29,307 Speaker 10: came from, and especially the foiling aspect being right here 612 00:29:29,467 --> 00:29:30,587 Speaker 10: on the White to Maat Harbor. 613 00:29:31,467 --> 00:29:33,147 Speaker 3: Love it, Tony, Thank you so much for bringing all 614 00:29:33,267 --> 00:29:36,627 Speaker 3: that to our attention. It's it's been been very educational. 615 00:29:36,707 --> 00:29:39,187 Speaker 3: Thanks indeed, I'm sure you'll enjoy the sailing in their 616 00:29:39,227 --> 00:29:42,467 Speaker 3: fifties out on the Watamata Harbor this afternoon, it is 617 00:29:42,667 --> 00:29:45,587 Speaker 3: twenty one away from one. As we broake us live 618 00:29:45,627 --> 00:29:48,747 Speaker 3: from sale gp Auckland. We're going to get you inside 619 00:29:48,747 --> 00:29:52,627 Speaker 3: the Australian team shortly now. Tom Slingsby unfortunately has been 620 00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:56,467 Speaker 3: a late scratching, but flight controller Jason Waterhouse out of 621 00:29:56,507 --> 00:29:59,067 Speaker 3: the Australian team is going to join us shortly. Your 622 00:29:59,107 --> 00:30:01,667 Speaker 3: calls and correspondence continue to be welcomed. OH eight hundred 623 00:30:01,907 --> 00:30:04,707 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the phone number nine two ninety 624 00:30:04,707 --> 00:30:07,347 Speaker 3: two if you would prefer to send a textra on 625 00:30:07,387 --> 00:30:10,267 Speaker 3: email into me Jason at Newstalk SHADB dot co dot 626 00:30:10,467 --> 00:30:13,467 Speaker 3: NZID back shortly on News Talk SHADB and Weekend Sport. 627 00:30:15,387 --> 00:30:18,027 Speaker 1: Talking to Sport on the field and on the water 628 00:30:18,627 --> 00:30:21,427 Speaker 1: live from Sale GP in the City of Sales. It's 629 00:30:21,507 --> 00:30:26,067 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason five and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's 630 00:30:26,107 --> 00:30:27,227 Speaker 1: most trusted home builder. 631 00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:30,827 Speaker 3: News Talks EDB seventeen away from one on News Talk SHADB. 632 00:30:30,907 --> 00:30:33,667 Speaker 3: Weekend Sport coming to your live from sal gp Auckland 633 00:30:33,707 --> 00:30:36,707 Speaker 3: four o'clock this afternoons when racing gets underway. Over the 634 00:30:36,787 --> 00:30:39,627 Speaker 3: next two andred hours will continue to bring you all 635 00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:43,027 Speaker 3: of the action and the color from the media center 636 00:30:43,107 --> 00:30:46,027 Speaker 3: here on Winyard Point. There is other sport happening around 637 00:30:46,027 --> 00:30:50,707 Speaker 3: the place though. Live Sport from the University of Otago Overland, 638 00:30:50,787 --> 00:30:54,987 Speaker 3: Dunedin where it's women's and men's Supersmash today between Otago 639 00:30:55,067 --> 00:30:57,227 Speaker 3: and Wellington. Otago, who are top of the table and 640 00:30:57,267 --> 00:30:59,067 Speaker 3: the women's division, look like they're gonna have another win. 641 00:30:59,347 --> 00:31:02,587 Speaker 3: Wellington restricted to one hundred and twenty for five in 642 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:05,827 Speaker 3: their twenty overs and Otago going along very nicely in 643 00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:09,827 Speaker 3: the night though they are seventy seven without loss. Susie 644 00:31:09,827 --> 00:31:13,827 Speaker 3: Bates hardly surprising that she's amongst the runs thirty six 645 00:31:13,907 --> 00:31:16,347 Speaker 3: not out of twenty nine balls, so Otago looking very 646 00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:19,067 Speaker 3: very good as they look to chalk up another win 647 00:31:19,227 --> 00:31:22,907 Speaker 3: in the women's Super Smash. They are currently at the 648 00:31:22,947 --> 00:31:25,627 Speaker 3: top of the table with twenty points from their seven games, 649 00:31:25,667 --> 00:31:27,627 Speaker 3: you get four for a win. They've had five wins 650 00:31:27,667 --> 00:31:30,627 Speaker 3: and two losses. Wellington are currently third, but they've only 651 00:31:30,707 --> 00:31:34,387 Speaker 3: played four games. However, Otaga looking very good to finish 652 00:31:34,467 --> 00:31:37,627 Speaker 3: top of the table and earn direct to entry into 653 00:31:37,627 --> 00:31:41,107 Speaker 3: the final Finals. Weekend is in Wellington on February one 654 00:31:41,307 --> 00:31:46,627 Speaker 3: and two and will feature a preliminary final on the 655 00:31:46,667 --> 00:31:49,787 Speaker 3: Saturday and then the grand Final on the Sunday. So 656 00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:53,867 Speaker 3: looking forward to that February one and two, sixteen away 657 00:31:54,027 --> 00:31:57,867 Speaker 3: from one o'clock. As we get you inside the Australian 658 00:31:58,347 --> 00:32:02,827 Speaker 3: sal GP camp a late call up for flight controller 659 00:32:03,147 --> 00:32:07,187 Speaker 3: Jason Waterhouse bailing your beting your driver to slings. But yeah, 660 00:32:07,347 --> 00:32:08,347 Speaker 3: good to see you mate. How are you? 661 00:32:08,467 --> 00:32:08,627 Speaker 7: Yeah? 662 00:32:08,707 --> 00:32:09,027 Speaker 4: Really good? 663 00:32:09,067 --> 00:32:09,947 Speaker 7: Thanks, thanks having. 664 00:32:09,787 --> 00:32:11,707 Speaker 3: Men, It's great to have you here. Jason. How are 665 00:32:11,707 --> 00:32:13,187 Speaker 3: you feeling you hit a sale gp Auckland. 666 00:32:13,347 --> 00:32:13,747 Speaker 13: Yeah good. 667 00:32:13,747 --> 00:32:16,227 Speaker 12: We've had really good two days of practice racing so far. 668 00:32:16,787 --> 00:32:19,307 Speaker 12: The conditions has been glamour so a little bit chili 669 00:32:19,387 --> 00:32:20,907 Speaker 12: that across the ditch, but enjoying it. 670 00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:23,347 Speaker 3: So you've got your digging about the New Zealand with 671 00:32:23,427 --> 00:32:24,107 Speaker 3: a nice and earlier. 672 00:32:24,147 --> 00:32:25,227 Speaker 9: I like it. 673 00:32:25,347 --> 00:32:28,227 Speaker 3: And what's some what's Tom like? I couldn't ask him that. 674 00:32:28,667 --> 00:32:29,187 Speaker 3: What's he like? 675 00:32:30,107 --> 00:32:32,467 Speaker 12: He's amazing not only he's a CEO, but also as 676 00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:36,427 Speaker 12: a skipper and a mate exceptional sailor, which is why 677 00:32:36,547 --> 00:32:39,387 Speaker 12: we love to race alongside him, and it pushes not 678 00:32:39,427 --> 00:32:41,387 Speaker 12: only himself but us to limit and I think it's 679 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:43,467 Speaker 12: what's made us so successful this last couple of years. 680 00:32:43,747 --> 00:32:47,627 Speaker 3: You were involved in season one and two of Sole GP. 681 00:32:47,787 --> 00:32:49,187 Speaker 3: What three and four as well, or just one and 682 00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:51,507 Speaker 3: two for all of them. You've been here the whole time. Yeah, 683 00:32:51,587 --> 00:32:53,747 Speaker 3: they got Yeah, I was just I was just quickly 684 00:32:53,867 --> 00:32:55,707 Speaker 3: checking some facts. So you've been here right from the start. 685 00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:57,187 Speaker 3: What are the big changes you've seen? 686 00:32:58,067 --> 00:32:59,667 Speaker 12: Oh man, I mean we've had a few changes to 687 00:32:59,707 --> 00:33:02,507 Speaker 12: the team in itself, but mainly just seeing the league 688 00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:05,467 Speaker 12: grow as it has has been incredible. But this has 689 00:33:05,507 --> 00:33:07,987 Speaker 12: been a big change, this with the new foils coming online. 690 00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:12,787 Speaker 12: The tefoils big hot topic here in Auckland. But yeah, no, 691 00:33:12,827 --> 00:33:14,587 Speaker 12: it's just really excited. It's something a bit different I 692 00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:17,587 Speaker 12: think for the athletes and for the spectators to enjoy well. 693 00:33:17,867 --> 00:33:20,387 Speaker 3: As a flight controller, that obviously is something that would 694 00:33:20,427 --> 00:33:23,107 Speaker 3: change your role. How does it change your role having 695 00:33:23,187 --> 00:33:25,507 Speaker 3: these these new teafoils on. What have you noticed? 696 00:33:25,627 --> 00:33:27,547 Speaker 12: Yeah, the role's now become a bit more dynamic. I 697 00:33:27,627 --> 00:33:29,907 Speaker 12: think it allows us to be a bit more creative. 698 00:33:30,267 --> 00:33:32,227 Speaker 12: But at the same time, you know they were meant 699 00:33:32,267 --> 00:33:34,147 Speaker 12: to be Maybe they're definitely going to be faster, but 700 00:33:34,867 --> 00:33:37,067 Speaker 12: some were saying a bit easier to fly, but yesterday 701 00:33:37,147 --> 00:33:39,587 Speaker 12: was definitely not the case. And what the rest of 702 00:33:39,627 --> 00:33:42,107 Speaker 12: the flight controls were agreeing with me is they're quite difficult. 703 00:33:42,267 --> 00:33:45,027 Speaker 12: Just the different forces that we weren't sort of anticipating 704 00:33:45,547 --> 00:33:47,307 Speaker 12: have definitely come online and are really tricky. 705 00:33:47,467 --> 00:33:50,147 Speaker 3: There's four days long enough to get up to pardon 706 00:33:50,187 --> 00:33:52,027 Speaker 3: the pun, get up to speed with them. 707 00:33:52,547 --> 00:33:53,147 Speaker 7: Absolutely not. 708 00:33:53,267 --> 00:33:54,787 Speaker 12: But that's kind of a cool part about it is 709 00:33:54,827 --> 00:33:56,787 Speaker 12: we're all going to be learning and racing at the 710 00:33:56,787 --> 00:34:00,027 Speaker 12: same time. So I think for myself today is just 711 00:34:00,107 --> 00:34:02,587 Speaker 12: trying to focus on, you know, keeping things simple, you know, 712 00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:04,427 Speaker 12: exploring what we've learned the last few days, at the 713 00:34:04,427 --> 00:34:07,907 Speaker 12: same time trusting our skills that we know previously worked. 714 00:34:08,147 --> 00:34:11,387 Speaker 3: You've outlined been there from the start. You've lost wing 715 00:34:11,467 --> 00:34:14,827 Speaker 3: from mccyle langthen to the Italian syndicate head of season five. Oh, 716 00:34:14,907 --> 00:34:17,267 Speaker 3: I know he went with your best wishes, but he's 717 00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:20,027 Speaker 3: been an integral part of the boat has any how, 718 00:34:20,067 --> 00:34:22,307 Speaker 3: strange is it not having him there? It is different. 719 00:34:22,547 --> 00:34:24,307 Speaker 4: We lost thirty kilos off the rail as well. 720 00:34:24,547 --> 00:34:28,147 Speaker 12: We've got the light Chris Drafer, who is a lot 721 00:34:28,227 --> 00:34:30,347 Speaker 12: smaller but just as skilled in every way, and he's 722 00:34:30,387 --> 00:34:33,147 Speaker 12: been a great addition to the team. Not only is 723 00:34:33,187 --> 00:34:34,787 Speaker 12: it something fresh, but it's made us to look into 724 00:34:34,827 --> 00:34:37,507 Speaker 12: our own roles as well. Chris has brought another level professionalism, 725 00:34:38,227 --> 00:34:40,027 Speaker 12: but us having copy off Carl this morning, so there's 726 00:34:40,067 --> 00:34:41,867 Speaker 12: no bad blood there. We're all great mates and I've 727 00:34:41,867 --> 00:34:42,867 Speaker 12: wish him the best this weekend. 728 00:34:42,907 --> 00:34:45,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, talking to Peter Burling before, and they've obviously lost 729 00:34:45,227 --> 00:34:48,507 Speaker 3: Andy Maloney to the Brazilian team. This open market is 730 00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:51,427 Speaker 3: now part of sale GP. Do you like the concept? 731 00:34:51,587 --> 00:34:52,387 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great. 732 00:34:52,387 --> 00:34:53,827 Speaker 12: I think you see that in a lot of American 733 00:34:53,907 --> 00:34:56,307 Speaker 12: sports where you have the new additions to the team 734 00:34:56,387 --> 00:34:58,867 Speaker 12: like we've had the Italians, the Brazilians, and the fact 735 00:34:58,907 --> 00:35:01,107 Speaker 12: that they can buy experience. I think it's really good 736 00:35:01,147 --> 00:35:02,827 Speaker 12: to bring them up to speed as quick as possible. 737 00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:04,707 Speaker 12: Like I said, I've been here for five seasons and 738 00:35:04,827 --> 00:35:06,827 Speaker 12: for someone to come in, you know, team to come 739 00:35:06,867 --> 00:35:09,707 Speaker 12: in fresh, that would definitely come in at a disadvantage. 740 00:35:09,707 --> 00:35:11,267 Speaker 12: So I think it's really good for the teams. 741 00:35:11,507 --> 00:35:15,347 Speaker 3: I've heard Tom talk about team culture and how important 742 00:35:15,387 --> 00:35:18,707 Speaker 3: that is in Sale GP. I think something that's important 743 00:35:18,707 --> 00:35:21,867 Speaker 3: to all successful sports teams. What does good team culture 744 00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:24,667 Speaker 3: look like and feel like on the boat and even 745 00:35:24,707 --> 00:35:25,107 Speaker 3: off the water. 746 00:35:25,827 --> 00:35:28,267 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean we're all really 747 00:35:28,347 --> 00:35:30,627 Speaker 12: close mates, which I think is important. There's a real 748 00:35:30,747 --> 00:35:36,107 Speaker 12: fundamental trust there to respect each other's skills and also 749 00:35:36,267 --> 00:35:38,707 Speaker 12: the different quirks that we all have off the water. 750 00:35:40,187 --> 00:35:41,707 Speaker 12: But yeah, we take a lot of pride and how 751 00:35:41,787 --> 00:35:43,427 Speaker 12: tight our team is as a culture, and we have 752 00:35:43,507 --> 00:35:45,467 Speaker 12: a really high level of standards. You know, we hold 753 00:35:45,507 --> 00:35:48,987 Speaker 12: ourselves accountable to excel and that's what we try. 754 00:35:48,907 --> 00:35:49,427 Speaker 7: To do each day. 755 00:35:49,907 --> 00:35:52,587 Speaker 3: Having won the first three seasons of sale GP, what 756 00:35:52,747 --> 00:35:55,707 Speaker 3: was season four like? How do you reflect on season four? 757 00:35:56,187 --> 00:35:56,307 Speaker 1: Man? 758 00:35:56,387 --> 00:35:58,027 Speaker 3: It's such a wave, you know. 759 00:35:58,147 --> 00:36:00,307 Speaker 12: We start the season really well, I think six podiums 760 00:36:00,347 --> 00:36:02,147 Speaker 12: in a row, leading the league, and then we had 761 00:36:02,267 --> 00:36:06,467 Speaker 12: unfortunately that big incident in christ Church where we we 762 00:36:06,667 --> 00:36:08,947 Speaker 12: literally land on top of a mark, you know, and 763 00:36:09,027 --> 00:36:10,827 Speaker 12: that is something that will happen, you know, when you're 764 00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:12,867 Speaker 12: racing these boats at these levels, that you will make 765 00:36:12,907 --> 00:36:15,587 Speaker 12: a mistake like that. Every team's done it, and that 766 00:36:15,747 --> 00:36:18,227 Speaker 12: was just our time. And then we just really struggled 767 00:36:18,227 --> 00:36:19,987 Speaker 12: to get the boat, the confidence in the boat back 768 00:36:20,027 --> 00:36:22,387 Speaker 12: up to where we wanted to be and had a 769 00:36:22,467 --> 00:36:24,747 Speaker 12: really hard second half of the season. So I really 770 00:36:24,787 --> 00:36:26,707 Speaker 12: hoping to trying to turn that around this season. And 771 00:36:27,067 --> 00:36:28,947 Speaker 12: we had a really good event in Dubai and not 772 00:36:28,987 --> 00:36:31,187 Speaker 12: the best result, but everything else was perfect and we've 773 00:36:31,187 --> 00:36:32,227 Speaker 12: had a really good lead in here. 774 00:36:32,827 --> 00:36:37,387 Speaker 3: The cross hitch incident replayed. I'm sure you've probably stopped 775 00:36:37,467 --> 00:36:40,467 Speaker 3: replaying what actually happened? Can you break it down for 776 00:36:40,587 --> 00:36:41,747 Speaker 3: us for a pine sight? 777 00:36:41,827 --> 00:36:45,587 Speaker 12: Has it gone anywhere? I still have nightmares about it, mate, Yeah, 778 00:36:45,627 --> 00:36:48,067 Speaker 12: I mean it was just why there're situations where boats 779 00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:51,787 Speaker 12: at the limit, lots of breeze in Christchurch and then yeah, 780 00:36:51,907 --> 00:36:53,587 Speaker 12: just a sort of pinch point on the boundary in 781 00:36:53,667 --> 00:36:56,027 Speaker 12: this marker, probably where it shouldn't have been. But everyone 782 00:36:56,027 --> 00:36:57,907 Speaker 12: else got around it except for us. So it was 783 00:36:57,947 --> 00:37:01,107 Speaker 12: really on us that made the mistake. But like I said, 784 00:37:01,147 --> 00:37:02,507 Speaker 12: it's just one of those things. It's going to happen. 785 00:37:02,587 --> 00:37:05,427 Speaker 12: It's a it's a high actions sport and you're going 786 00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:08,387 Speaker 12: to crash because we pushed limits and that was our time. Unfortunately, 787 00:37:08,427 --> 00:37:10,067 Speaker 12: we didn't want to be as bad as that, but 788 00:37:10,667 --> 00:37:12,267 Speaker 12: it is what it is. Everyone was safe and everyone 789 00:37:12,347 --> 00:37:12,707 Speaker 12: was okay. 790 00:37:12,747 --> 00:37:13,187 Speaker 11: It's amazing. 791 00:37:13,387 --> 00:37:15,587 Speaker 3: So you've got your home event coming up next. But 792 00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:18,347 Speaker 3: how much would you like, like any good Australian to 793 00:37:18,347 --> 00:37:20,267 Speaker 3: come over to New Zealand and beat the Kiwi's on 794 00:37:20,267 --> 00:37:20,827 Speaker 3: their homewater. 795 00:37:21,427 --> 00:37:21,627 Speaker 7: Yeah? 796 00:37:21,627 --> 00:37:23,387 Speaker 12: Well, I mean we would love that, but we'd love 797 00:37:23,427 --> 00:37:25,267 Speaker 12: to beat everyone else as well. You know, that is 798 00:37:25,307 --> 00:37:27,267 Speaker 12: an ambition to be better than the Kiwi's is to 799 00:37:27,307 --> 00:37:29,387 Speaker 12: be the best as we can be, and that we 800 00:37:29,587 --> 00:37:32,947 Speaker 12: believe is the top level. So Aukle's been fantastic, what 801 00:37:33,067 --> 00:37:35,067 Speaker 12: to turn out. The crowds already have been amazing, and 802 00:37:35,147 --> 00:37:36,907 Speaker 12: the weather you couldn't ask for anything better. 803 00:37:37,227 --> 00:37:39,867 Speaker 3: And yeah, just on the condition, what I mean, do 804 00:37:39,947 --> 00:37:41,347 Speaker 3: you like them what you're seeing in the forecast. Do 805 00:37:41,347 --> 00:37:43,227 Speaker 3: you feel like it will be conducive to what you're 806 00:37:43,467 --> 00:37:44,947 Speaker 3: wanting to do this afternoon and tomorrow? 807 00:37:45,027 --> 00:37:45,347 Speaker 2: I think so. 808 00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:45,747 Speaker 3: I think. 809 00:37:45,947 --> 00:37:47,387 Speaker 12: I think it's going to be great for the spectators. 810 00:37:47,547 --> 00:37:51,467 Speaker 12: Such a short stadium like racecourse and good briees today 811 00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:52,507 Speaker 12: to get us started. 812 00:37:52,587 --> 00:37:53,667 Speaker 4: I think we'll see. 813 00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:54,387 Speaker 12: Really close racing. 814 00:37:54,387 --> 00:37:55,547 Speaker 4: And then tomorrow looks crazy. 815 00:37:55,747 --> 00:37:57,707 Speaker 12: I mean, I'm genuinely worried that we're going to have 816 00:37:57,787 --> 00:38:00,187 Speaker 12: some serious carnage, which I can't love at the same time, 817 00:38:01,387 --> 00:38:05,627 Speaker 12: but tomorrow will be top end, I believe. And from 818 00:38:05,787 --> 00:38:07,907 Speaker 12: yesterday the conditions were hard enough, so I can't wait 819 00:38:07,947 --> 00:38:08,827 Speaker 12: to be pushed even harder. 820 00:38:08,987 --> 00:38:11,267 Speaker 3: So I saw a little little twinkle in your eyea 821 00:38:11,267 --> 00:38:12,747 Speaker 3: when you see card and it's just almost like you're 822 00:38:12,747 --> 00:38:15,187 Speaker 3: looking forward to something like that and testing yourself against it. 823 00:38:15,307 --> 00:38:15,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 824 00:38:16,107 --> 00:38:18,747 Speaker 12: I mean I love pushing myself and the boat and 825 00:38:18,867 --> 00:38:20,227 Speaker 12: the team to the limits and I think that's what 826 00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:21,107 Speaker 12: you're going to get tomorrow. 827 00:38:21,267 --> 00:38:24,187 Speaker 3: Fantastic Jason, thanks for stepping in, Thanks for popping in 828 00:38:24,267 --> 00:38:26,107 Speaker 3: for a chat. All the best this afternoon and tomorrow. 829 00:38:26,147 --> 00:38:29,107 Speaker 3: I'll be watching especially closely tomorrow when there was winds 830 00:38:29,147 --> 00:38:30,867 Speaker 3: to get up. But thanks for taking the time for 831 00:38:30,867 --> 00:38:31,147 Speaker 3: a chair. 832 00:38:31,387 --> 00:38:31,627 Speaker 7: Enjoy. 833 00:38:31,667 --> 00:38:33,827 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks mine, cheers. Jason water House there fly 834 00:38:33,907 --> 00:38:37,107 Speaker 3: controller of the Australian sale GP team. Four o'clock this 835 00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:40,787 Speaker 3: afternoon is when we get involved and the racing starts. 836 00:38:40,827 --> 00:38:43,267 Speaker 3: It's just on nine away from one, News Talk. 837 00:38:43,187 --> 00:38:48,467 Speaker 1: Hib backing of Black Foils, Weekend Sport with Jason Fine 838 00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:50,307 Speaker 1: live at sale GP in Auckland. 839 00:38:50,467 --> 00:38:53,587 Speaker 3: News Talks B, News Talks HEB and Weekend Sports seven 840 00:38:53,947 --> 00:38:56,747 Speaker 3: coming up six away from one as we broadcast live 841 00:38:56,787 --> 00:38:59,227 Speaker 3: from sale GP in Auckland. Action underway at four o'clock 842 00:38:59,267 --> 00:39:03,067 Speaker 3: this afternoon. We're also here tomorrow. You might want to 843 00:39:03,107 --> 00:39:06,307 Speaker 3: make an appointment. We've got us saw Coots joining us 844 00:39:06,467 --> 00:39:08,667 Speaker 3: just after midday tomorrow. It will be one of our 845 00:39:09,067 --> 00:39:12,707 Speaker 3: guests later on this afternoon. Rarely looking forward to chatting 846 00:39:12,787 --> 00:39:16,747 Speaker 3: to the owner of the startup Brazilian sale GP team. 847 00:39:17,067 --> 00:39:20,467 Speaker 3: Alan Adler is his name. He's a former Olympic sailor 848 00:39:20,587 --> 00:39:25,107 Speaker 3: himself and world champion. Has gone on to become an 849 00:39:25,147 --> 00:39:30,707 Speaker 3: event promoter, part of the group that basically saved the 850 00:39:30,747 --> 00:39:33,707 Speaker 3: Brazilian Grand Prix. We're talking about Formula one Grand Prix here. 851 00:39:34,347 --> 00:39:37,987 Speaker 3: He has got an extremely interesting story. He's with us 852 00:39:37,987 --> 00:39:41,027 Speaker 3: after two o'clock. Taylor Canfield is also with us from 853 00:39:41,067 --> 00:39:44,147 Speaker 3: the United States. I remember chatting to Taylor in christ 854 00:39:44,267 --> 00:39:47,907 Speaker 3: Church at the last sale GP event in New Zealand 855 00:39:47,987 --> 00:39:50,387 Speaker 3: and he had only just arrived in the team. He 856 00:39:50,507 --> 00:39:54,027 Speaker 3: basically came in because Jimmy Spittle had moved or had 857 00:39:54,147 --> 00:39:57,267 Speaker 3: left to start up the Italian syndicate along with the Brazilians. 858 00:39:57,467 --> 00:40:00,067 Speaker 3: The Italians are the other new syndicate in season five, 859 00:40:00,187 --> 00:40:03,747 Speaker 3: so Taylor Canfield sort of dropped in halfway through the season. 860 00:40:04,627 --> 00:40:06,387 Speaker 3: He's the full time We're going to get the to 861 00:40:06,427 --> 00:40:08,667 Speaker 3: get the full time drive this season, so he's with 862 00:40:08,787 --> 00:40:11,707 Speaker 3: us a bit later on, as is Dylan Fletcher. Speaking 863 00:40:11,787 --> 00:40:15,347 Speaker 3: of full time drive, he has taken over from Giles 864 00:40:15,627 --> 00:40:18,747 Speaker 3: Scott as the driver of the Great Britain team. So 865 00:40:19,307 --> 00:40:21,307 Speaker 3: as we've been talking about with Peter Berling and with 866 00:40:22,427 --> 00:40:26,147 Speaker 3: Jason Waterhouse there and with Chris Reeve. There is now movement, 867 00:40:26,587 --> 00:40:29,947 Speaker 3: real movement between these teams. It's an open market, a 868 00:40:30,027 --> 00:40:33,387 Speaker 3: transfer market, if you will. So you see, you know, 869 00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:36,547 Speaker 3: some really experienced sailors leaving the teams that they've been 870 00:40:36,627 --> 00:40:39,747 Speaker 3: with often since the start of Sale GP and into 871 00:40:40,107 --> 00:40:44,427 Speaker 3: other teams, helping to upskill the other teams. In Jimmy 872 00:40:44,427 --> 00:40:46,787 Speaker 3: Spehill's case, to start up a new team. I don't 873 00:40:46,787 --> 00:40:50,747 Speaker 3: think Jimmy himself is on the boat, but certainly he's 874 00:40:50,787 --> 00:40:53,827 Speaker 3: the driving force behind the new Italian team. Speaking of 875 00:40:54,227 --> 00:40:55,987 Speaker 3: Jimmy Spittle, he will be on the show with us 876 00:40:56,027 --> 00:40:58,787 Speaker 3: tomorrow as well, so we've got a real all star lineup. 877 00:40:58,827 --> 00:41:02,667 Speaker 3: Andy Maloney also one of our guests tomorrow. As we 878 00:41:02,787 --> 00:41:04,947 Speaker 3: approach at one o'clock, we're going to shift our focus 879 00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:07,507 Speaker 3: away from the sailing after one because one of the 880 00:41:07,547 --> 00:41:10,667 Speaker 3: other big stories floating around this week has been the 881 00:41:11,107 --> 00:41:16,267 Speaker 3: renewal of the broadcast rights for New Zealand Rugby, All Blacks, Tests, 882 00:41:16,627 --> 00:41:20,747 Speaker 3: Super Rugby and NPC. The current dealer is up at 883 00:41:20,747 --> 00:41:23,107 Speaker 3: the end of this year. The next deal is a 884 00:41:23,467 --> 00:41:26,507 Speaker 3: five year deal from twenty twenty six through to twenty 885 00:41:26,947 --> 00:41:30,667 Speaker 3: thirty and all reports are that Sky have put a 886 00:41:30,787 --> 00:41:33,387 Speaker 3: much lower offer on the table. The current deal is 887 00:41:33,467 --> 00:41:36,707 Speaker 3: one hundred and eleven million dollars a year and Gregor 888 00:41:36,747 --> 00:41:38,947 Speaker 3: Paul and The Herald before Christmas was reporting the new 889 00:41:39,027 --> 00:41:42,067 Speaker 3: deal or the new offer was around eighty five million. 890 00:41:42,427 --> 00:41:44,067 Speaker 3: Lots of reasons for that. We're going to talk to 891 00:41:44,147 --> 00:41:47,387 Speaker 3: former chair of Rugby Australia and media writes expert Hamish 892 00:41:47,427 --> 00:41:48,187 Speaker 3: mcclennan about this. 893 00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:52,427 Speaker 2: After one, it's Formula one on the water. 894 00:41:53,027 --> 00:41:56,147 Speaker 1: It fast, it's furious and it's happening on Aten's way 895 00:41:56,187 --> 00:41:58,907 Speaker 1: to Mata Harbor, live from the Sale GV Village in 896 00:41:58,987 --> 00:42:02,307 Speaker 1: the City of Sales. It's Weekend Sport with Jason Price 897 00:42:02,547 --> 00:42:05,027 Speaker 1: on your home of Sports News Talks, Envy. 898 00:42:07,027 --> 00:42:08,707 Speaker 3: Kid to good afternoon, Welcome in or welcome back as 899 00:42:08,747 --> 00:42:10,667 Speaker 3: the case. Maybe this is Weekend Sport on News Talks. 900 00:42:10,667 --> 00:42:13,907 Speaker 3: Here'b on Jason Pine. Seven past one. We're hit till three, 901 00:42:14,027 --> 00:42:17,787 Speaker 3: which is an hour before the action proper starts out 902 00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:21,427 Speaker 3: on the water here on the Waitamata Harbor. Speaking of 903 00:42:21,467 --> 00:42:24,027 Speaker 3: action on the water, some of the boats that are 904 00:42:24,467 --> 00:42:29,627 Speaker 3: currently cruising past our vantage point here looking out on 905 00:42:29,707 --> 00:42:35,107 Speaker 3: the race course are quite something to behold, all different sorts, 906 00:42:35,467 --> 00:42:37,907 Speaker 3: some of them near the top end. As far as 907 00:42:37,987 --> 00:42:40,667 Speaker 3: what you can spend on a boat, apeels to me 908 00:42:40,827 --> 00:42:44,187 Speaker 3: looking out here, as though there wouldn't be an upper 909 00:42:44,227 --> 00:42:47,427 Speaker 3: limit to what you could spend on a pleasure craft 910 00:42:47,507 --> 00:42:51,467 Speaker 3: out here, so many boats out out on the harbor. 911 00:42:52,547 --> 00:42:54,867 Speaker 3: Bring your own boat was a ticket option. I spoke 912 00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:59,467 Speaker 3: to Angus on ZB yesterday afternoon. He sent me an email, Jason, 913 00:42:59,507 --> 00:43:01,387 Speaker 3: look out for us on the water. I've attached to 914 00:43:01,507 --> 00:43:04,187 Speaker 3: photo will be on the top left of the course. 915 00:43:04,467 --> 00:43:08,707 Speaker 3: The offer is still there to join us. I'll take 916 00:43:08,747 --> 00:43:11,867 Speaker 3: the offer under advisement Angus. Thank you very much indeed, 917 00:43:11,947 --> 00:43:15,427 Speaker 3: mate for getting in touch. So just to give you 918 00:43:15,507 --> 00:43:17,987 Speaker 3: the rundown of what's going to happen this afternoon four o'clock. 919 00:43:18,747 --> 00:43:22,587 Speaker 3: There are three fleet racers starting at four o'clock, featuring 920 00:43:22,787 --> 00:43:25,587 Speaker 3: all eleven teams out on the race course at the 921 00:43:25,627 --> 00:43:28,907 Speaker 3: same time. So all eleven will start each of the 922 00:43:29,027 --> 00:43:32,987 Speaker 3: three races, and then tomorrow two more before the top 923 00:43:33,107 --> 00:43:36,827 Speaker 3: three go into a winner takes all three boat finale. 924 00:43:37,147 --> 00:43:39,467 Speaker 3: The way that the points work is you get between 925 00:43:39,587 --> 00:43:42,747 Speaker 3: eleven points and one point depending on where you finish. 926 00:43:42,867 --> 00:43:45,667 Speaker 3: So if you're first you get eleven points, second ten 927 00:43:45,707 --> 00:43:47,907 Speaker 3: points and so on, and all of your points are 928 00:43:47,947 --> 00:43:50,467 Speaker 3: tallied up. The top three go into the winner takes 929 00:43:50,507 --> 00:43:54,707 Speaker 3: all three boat finale tomorrow afternoon. The new development, of course, 930 00:43:54,747 --> 00:43:58,347 Speaker 3: that exciting new development this weekend the introduction of the 931 00:43:58,547 --> 00:44:03,147 Speaker 3: titanium T foils replacing the l foils that the boats 932 00:44:03,187 --> 00:44:06,187 Speaker 3: have used up until now. They've only had about four 933 00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:09,187 Speaker 3: to get used to them. We heard Jason Waterhouse, the 934 00:44:09,227 --> 00:44:11,947 Speaker 3: flight controller from the Australian team before one o'clock say, look, 935 00:44:12,107 --> 00:44:14,907 Speaker 3: it's nowhere near enough time to get right up to 936 00:44:14,947 --> 00:44:17,107 Speaker 3: speed with them. But that's the beauty of it. It 937 00:44:17,227 --> 00:44:20,347 Speaker 3: is going to be learn as they go. And with 938 00:44:20,467 --> 00:44:23,507 Speaker 3: the weather conditions well at the moment looking out here, 939 00:44:23,907 --> 00:44:27,947 Speaker 3: a spectacular vista, a beautiful day in Auckland, just a 940 00:44:27,987 --> 00:44:33,227 Speaker 3: bit of high cloud, easterly breeze, perfect racing conditions. There 941 00:44:33,307 --> 00:44:35,547 Speaker 3: are reports that the wind will get up even more tomorrow, 942 00:44:35,627 --> 00:44:38,827 Speaker 3: which when Jason Waterhouse was talking to us before one 943 00:44:38,867 --> 00:44:41,747 Speaker 3: o'clock he seemed quite excited about. He said, I'm looking 944 00:44:41,787 --> 00:44:43,547 Speaker 3: forward to seeing what happens out there. There's going to 945 00:44:43,627 --> 00:44:45,867 Speaker 3: be a bit of carnage. But he wasn't saying it 946 00:44:45,907 --> 00:44:48,187 Speaker 3: in a bad way. He was saying it as if 947 00:44:48,227 --> 00:44:51,027 Speaker 3: it was something he was looking forward to. The t 948 00:44:51,187 --> 00:44:54,587 Speaker 3: foils make the boats more stable and more efficient, and 949 00:44:54,787 --> 00:44:57,707 Speaker 3: they raised the prospect of the speed record being broken. 950 00:44:58,627 --> 00:45:00,987 Speaker 3: The fastest any of these boats has ever gone in 951 00:45:01,107 --> 00:45:05,507 Speaker 3: competition is ninety nine point four kilometers per our ninety 952 00:45:05,587 --> 00:45:08,267 Speaker 3: nine point four coli per our. France did that last year, 953 00:45:08,747 --> 00:45:12,627 Speaker 3: but that magical one hundred kilometer per our mark is 954 00:45:12,787 --> 00:45:15,467 Speaker 3: on the minds of these sailors this weekend, although Peter 955 00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,067 Speaker 3: Berling did say he wasn't quite sure where the conditions 956 00:45:19,107 --> 00:45:22,387 Speaker 3: would allow it anyway. We'll move back to sal GP 957 00:45:22,707 --> 00:45:25,227 Speaker 3: after two o'clock more guests, but I wanted to kick 958 00:45:25,267 --> 00:45:27,307 Speaker 3: off this hour with another big story this week, and 959 00:45:27,387 --> 00:45:31,107 Speaker 3: that's New Zealand rugby in the throes of negotiating their 960 00:45:31,187 --> 00:45:35,867 Speaker 3: next broadcast deal. It's been reported SkyTV is offering eighty 961 00:45:35,987 --> 00:45:39,427 Speaker 3: five million dollars a year for the domestic rugby rights 962 00:45:39,467 --> 00:45:43,307 Speaker 3: from twenty twenty six through to twenty thirty inclusive. That 963 00:45:43,427 --> 00:45:47,467 Speaker 3: includes all Blacks tests, Super Rugby and in PC matches. 964 00:45:47,867 --> 00:45:51,547 Speaker 3: That's well below the existing one hundred and eleven million 965 00:45:51,587 --> 00:45:54,387 Speaker 3: dollar annual deal that expires at the end of this year, 966 00:45:54,507 --> 00:45:57,467 Speaker 3: so from one hundred and eleven million down to eighty 967 00:45:57,627 --> 00:46:01,827 Speaker 3: five million dollars a year. That is reportedly what SkyTV 968 00:46:01,987 --> 00:46:04,627 Speaker 3: is offering New Zealand Rugby. The last deal was signed 969 00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:08,347 Speaker 3: before the twenty nine seen Rugby World Cup, when Spark 970 00:46:08,427 --> 00:46:11,227 Speaker 3: Sport was in the market and they were chasing broadcast 971 00:46:11,347 --> 00:46:15,547 Speaker 3: rights for live sport vigorously. The competitive tension existed and 972 00:46:15,667 --> 00:46:19,907 Speaker 3: therefore the New Zealand Rugby could ramp up the ramp 973 00:46:20,027 --> 00:46:22,467 Speaker 3: up the price. That is no longer the case, of course, 974 00:46:22,787 --> 00:46:26,107 Speaker 3: Spark Sport are no more and really it feels of 975 00:46:26,147 --> 00:46:29,747 Speaker 3: those Sky Sport are the only genuine bidder for rugby 976 00:46:29,867 --> 00:46:32,147 Speaker 3: rights to kick this around and I want to get 977 00:46:32,187 --> 00:46:35,987 Speaker 3: your views soon on particularly the concept of free to 978 00:46:36,067 --> 00:46:38,467 Speaker 3: air rugby and what part that should play. Let's bring 979 00:46:38,547 --> 00:46:43,107 Speaker 3: in former Chair of Rugby Australia Hamish mcclennan, also chair 980 00:46:43,227 --> 00:46:48,747 Speaker 3: of digital advertising company Area Group and ARN Australia. Hugely 981 00:46:48,867 --> 00:46:53,067 Speaker 3: experienced media and marketing executive with an unrivaled understanding of 982 00:46:53,107 --> 00:46:57,147 Speaker 3: the changing media landscape as it relates to the broadcast 983 00:46:57,347 --> 00:47:00,307 Speaker 3: of live sport. Hamish, thanks for joining us on news talks. 984 00:47:00,307 --> 00:47:03,547 Speaker 3: He'd be this afternoon. In general terms, to start, how 985 00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:07,627 Speaker 3: important are broadcast deals for the overall health of a 986 00:47:07,667 --> 00:47:09,747 Speaker 3: sports organization like New Zealand rugby. 987 00:47:11,347 --> 00:47:13,507 Speaker 13: It's probably the central pillar in terms of how you 988 00:47:13,627 --> 00:47:18,747 Speaker 13: drive the game beyond pathways and grassroots, because that is 989 00:47:18,787 --> 00:47:20,827 Speaker 13: a platform in the vehicle which should. 990 00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:21,307 Speaker 7: Promote the game. 991 00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:25,507 Speaker 13: And if I look at where Rugby and Australia stumbled, 992 00:47:26,067 --> 00:47:28,067 Speaker 13: they did an exclusive. 993 00:47:27,547 --> 00:47:31,787 Speaker 7: Deal with a PATV provider in Australia and. 994 00:47:32,907 --> 00:47:35,467 Speaker 13: For twenty years it was behind the paywall, and so 995 00:47:36,947 --> 00:47:40,467 Speaker 13: the challenge is you want some free to wear exposure 996 00:47:40,587 --> 00:47:43,187 Speaker 13: in my opinion, and if you look at the competitive 997 00:47:43,307 --> 00:47:47,387 Speaker 13: landscape here, the AFL and the NRL had probably forty 998 00:47:47,507 --> 00:47:50,587 Speaker 13: percent of their coverage on free to wear and so 999 00:47:51,427 --> 00:47:57,707 Speaker 13: participation awareness, creating personalities out of the game really drove 1000 00:47:59,147 --> 00:48:02,867 Speaker 13: the popularity of those sports, where rugby probably stuffered a 1001 00:48:02,907 --> 00:48:03,307 Speaker 13: little bit. 1002 00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:05,867 Speaker 7: So it's something that New Zealand. 1003 00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:05,907 Speaker 14: Have to. 1004 00:48:07,547 --> 00:48:09,787 Speaker 3: In fact, that is the key thrust I think to 1005 00:48:09,867 --> 00:48:12,267 Speaker 3: the entire conversation is the free to wear part of 1006 00:48:12,307 --> 00:48:14,667 Speaker 3: it because at the moment, as you know, very little 1007 00:48:14,707 --> 00:48:17,187 Speaker 3: of any of the top rugby is free to wear 1008 00:48:17,347 --> 00:48:21,067 Speaker 3: over here. How robust are those conversations when pay per 1009 00:48:21,147 --> 00:48:24,427 Speaker 3: view broadcasters probably don't want any content available on free 1010 00:48:24,467 --> 00:48:24,747 Speaker 3: to wear. 1011 00:48:25,307 --> 00:48:27,427 Speaker 13: Well, New Zealand is a bit different to Australia, so 1012 00:48:27,507 --> 00:48:29,907 Speaker 13: we have a law called the Anti Stiffening law. So 1013 00:48:30,427 --> 00:48:35,147 Speaker 13: the premium tier one sports have to show certainly like 1014 00:48:35,267 --> 00:48:38,347 Speaker 13: our tests are on tree Aware, but the rest can 1015 00:48:38,387 --> 00:48:43,027 Speaker 13: sit behind a paywall. So for New Zealand, you know, 1016 00:48:43,147 --> 00:48:45,267 Speaker 13: do you take the money or do you try and 1017 00:48:45,707 --> 00:48:51,827 Speaker 13: ensure that you reach the masimumount of views? Now aeropian 1018 00:48:51,907 --> 00:48:55,427 Speaker 13: New Zealand is different because it is these sports where 1019 00:48:55,627 --> 00:49:01,147 Speaker 13: Australia has probably you know, Sydney has the most competitive 1020 00:49:01,187 --> 00:49:03,747 Speaker 13: winter sports market in the world if you include soccer. 1021 00:49:04,427 --> 00:49:08,387 Speaker 13: So I personally think I'm free to Our exposure is important, 1022 00:49:08,507 --> 00:49:11,387 Speaker 13: but you know you've faced with with ens that are 1023 00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:13,907 Speaker 13: you know you've got you've got to fund the organization. 1024 00:49:14,027 --> 00:49:17,027 Speaker 13: Plus they brought a private equity, a very credible private 1025 00:49:17,067 --> 00:49:20,987 Speaker 13: equity firm, Silverlake in as a part owner of the sport. 1026 00:49:21,107 --> 00:49:25,347 Speaker 13: Then they've probably promised them an uplifting revenue and ultimately 1027 00:49:25,427 --> 00:49:27,067 Speaker 13: they want to get a return on their capital. 1028 00:49:27,947 --> 00:49:31,547 Speaker 3: So what then do you perceive those conversations around the 1029 00:49:32,147 --> 00:49:34,907 Speaker 3: table to be like Because you're so right. I mean 1030 00:49:34,947 --> 00:49:38,987 Speaker 3: they're not. Everybody has access to pay per view sport 1031 00:49:39,267 --> 00:49:42,187 Speaker 3: and you know many of us grew up, you know, 1032 00:49:42,267 --> 00:49:44,547 Speaker 3: connecting with the sports we love by watching them on TV. 1033 00:49:44,827 --> 00:49:47,467 Speaker 3: If that's not available to young people then then you know, 1034 00:49:47,547 --> 00:49:49,147 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the future looks like, what the 1035 00:49:49,307 --> 00:49:52,627 Speaker 3: what do the conversations around that table generally look like? 1036 00:49:53,467 --> 00:49:57,547 Speaker 13: Look, I think you know, private equity typically will work 1037 00:49:57,627 --> 00:50:01,667 Speaker 13: to a five to ten year horizon, and the administrators 1038 00:50:01,747 --> 00:50:03,947 Speaker 13: of Rugby and New Zealand have to take a twenty. 1039 00:50:03,827 --> 00:50:07,347 Speaker 7: Year of you. So the challenge for them is how 1040 00:50:07,387 --> 00:50:10,507 Speaker 7: do they how do they balance the two And the. 1041 00:50:10,587 --> 00:50:15,067 Speaker 13: Conundrum they've got is that the Sky is really the 1042 00:50:15,147 --> 00:50:18,627 Speaker 13: dominant platform in New Zealand and with any media righte 1043 00:50:18,707 --> 00:50:19,987 Speaker 13: negotiation you need to. 1044 00:50:20,027 --> 00:50:21,107 Speaker 7: Have competitive tension. 1045 00:50:21,827 --> 00:50:25,147 Speaker 13: So in Australia, you know, we have you know, more 1046 00:50:25,507 --> 00:50:30,427 Speaker 13: just because of our scale, more more media organizations that 1047 00:50:30,627 --> 00:50:34,507 Speaker 13: can test those sporting rights. So if there's no competitive 1048 00:50:34,587 --> 00:50:37,467 Speaker 13: tensions to Sky, they'll try and drive the price down. 1049 00:50:38,907 --> 00:50:42,147 Speaker 13: You know, your blacks is the and sort of rugby 1050 00:50:42,267 --> 00:50:45,267 Speaker 13: is the premium sport on that platform. But they've got 1051 00:50:45,307 --> 00:50:48,667 Speaker 13: a business to run and a subscription TV around the 1052 00:50:48,707 --> 00:50:50,427 Speaker 13: world is under pressure because you've got all the tech 1053 00:50:50,467 --> 00:50:53,387 Speaker 13: giants getting into streaming and you might have heard that 1054 00:50:53,627 --> 00:50:59,027 Speaker 13: Foxtel in Australia just got sold to an overseas streaming platform. 1055 00:50:58,667 --> 00:51:04,067 Speaker 7: Called Dasen or daznes. So it's changing, it's changing rapidly. 1056 00:51:04,907 --> 00:51:08,867 Speaker 13: The issue is, can Mark Robinson bring in a competitor 1057 00:51:09,067 --> 00:51:12,667 Speaker 13: like das and to provide that tension to try and 1058 00:51:12,867 --> 00:51:14,787 Speaker 13: keep the value of the rights up high. 1059 00:51:15,307 --> 00:51:17,027 Speaker 3: You know, well, that's certainly what happened last time with 1060 00:51:17,107 --> 00:51:20,227 Speaker 3: Spark Sport, the now defunct Spark Sport. They were chasing 1061 00:51:20,467 --> 00:51:23,387 Speaker 3: you know, live Sport rights got the twenty nineteen Rugby 1062 00:51:23,467 --> 00:51:27,227 Speaker 3: World Cup and so there was a genuine, a genuine 1063 00:51:27,427 --> 00:51:31,267 Speaker 3: competitive tension. When there is only one genuine bidder, how 1064 00:51:31,387 --> 00:51:33,347 Speaker 3: much different do the negotiations become. 1065 00:51:34,427 --> 00:51:38,587 Speaker 13: Oh they're much more difficult. There's absolutely no doubt about that. 1066 00:51:38,907 --> 00:51:43,227 Speaker 13: So you know, you know, in blunt terms, if you've 1067 00:51:43,267 --> 00:51:46,507 Speaker 13: got two or three competing for a property, you know 1068 00:51:46,627 --> 00:51:48,707 Speaker 13: that's going to be a better big environment. 1069 00:51:50,507 --> 00:51:53,627 Speaker 7: If there's only one platform. You know, if you can 1070 00:51:53,707 --> 00:51:56,227 Speaker 7: save twenty million on the value. 1071 00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:58,067 Speaker 13: Of the media rights in New zeal And, that goes 1072 00:51:58,107 --> 00:52:00,027 Speaker 13: straight to your bottom line, And if you're a CEO 1073 00:52:00,227 --> 00:52:02,907 Speaker 13: or a board you know you've got shareholders, then you 1074 00:52:03,067 --> 00:52:04,827 Speaker 13: look good if you can do it, but you also 1075 00:52:04,947 --> 00:52:07,587 Speaker 13: don't want to destroy the value of the game. 1076 00:52:07,707 --> 00:52:09,627 Speaker 7: And you know what I was dealing with when I. 1077 00:52:09,747 --> 00:52:13,867 Speaker 13: Was at rugby in Australia was you know, there are 1078 00:52:13,867 --> 00:52:15,627 Speaker 13: whole lot of legacy issues and I don't want to 1079 00:52:15,627 --> 00:52:20,267 Speaker 13: sound defensive, but as you as your revenue declines, and 1080 00:52:20,907 --> 00:52:23,467 Speaker 13: broadcast rights are one of the few leavers that you 1081 00:52:23,547 --> 00:52:26,307 Speaker 13: can pull that if you get it right, you can 1082 00:52:26,827 --> 00:52:30,867 Speaker 13: you can drive incredible value in terms of awareness and 1083 00:52:30,947 --> 00:52:34,107 Speaker 13: obviously money. But then if your revenue is going south, 1084 00:52:34,267 --> 00:52:37,587 Speaker 13: then you've got less to put into grassroots or pay 1085 00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:38,827 Speaker 13: the top players. 1086 00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:42,027 Speaker 7: So so you know, over the decades we've lost in 1087 00:52:42,147 --> 00:52:44,627 Speaker 7: Australia a lot of really good. 1088 00:52:44,587 --> 00:52:47,827 Speaker 13: Players overseas, and so if you can't, if you're competing 1089 00:52:47,867 --> 00:52:52,107 Speaker 13: against French and English and Japanese clubs who paying top 1090 00:52:52,227 --> 00:52:54,587 Speaker 13: dollar and you don't have that money in the kiddie, 1091 00:52:54,627 --> 00:52:56,267 Speaker 13: then it's going to be very challenging. 1092 00:52:56,907 --> 00:53:01,107 Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, the streaming side of things, do you perceive 1093 00:53:01,187 --> 00:53:04,547 Speaker 3: that that will be something that happens more and more 1094 00:53:04,707 --> 00:53:06,987 Speaker 3: in the short term, or are we more likely to 1095 00:53:07,027 --> 00:53:09,987 Speaker 3: see the likes of a traditional broadcast. I like Sky 1096 00:53:10,107 --> 00:53:15,227 Speaker 3: Sport continue to have the rights to be here, So 1097 00:53:16,667 --> 00:53:16,907 Speaker 3: you know. 1098 00:53:17,707 --> 00:53:21,707 Speaker 13: Facebook are waiting into various sports around the world, and 1099 00:53:22,947 --> 00:53:27,027 Speaker 13: you're gonna it's very hard for the traditional players to 1100 00:53:27,187 --> 00:53:29,987 Speaker 13: compete against the tech platforms because they've just got a 1101 00:53:30,027 --> 00:53:34,387 Speaker 13: completely different model. So it is it is challenging, and 1102 00:53:35,187 --> 00:53:38,147 Speaker 13: perhaps that's one of the reasons why fox Tell thought 1103 00:53:38,227 --> 00:53:40,147 Speaker 13: that they should consolidate with. 1104 00:53:41,907 --> 00:53:43,507 Speaker 7: Daesn't overseay. 1105 00:53:43,787 --> 00:53:48,707 Speaker 13: So in the short term, I mean, obviously Sky will 1106 00:53:48,747 --> 00:53:50,987 Speaker 13: do everything to hang on to those key sports. And 1107 00:53:51,067 --> 00:53:54,187 Speaker 13: then as the new entrants come in, you know, the 1108 00:53:54,787 --> 00:53:57,307 Speaker 13: sporting code of ends that I have to reconcile a 1109 00:53:57,427 --> 00:53:58,867 Speaker 13: new player coming in with. 1110 00:53:58,987 --> 00:54:01,867 Speaker 7: The audience that they can deliver. So it's a bit 1111 00:54:01,907 --> 00:54:02,707 Speaker 7: of a rubis Q. 1112 00:54:03,147 --> 00:54:08,147 Speaker 13: It's always hard because if you trans addition to another player, 1113 00:54:08,307 --> 00:54:10,667 Speaker 13: can they delive you the same sort of numbers? Because 1114 00:54:10,707 --> 00:54:14,107 Speaker 13: what then sits behind the numbers are the eyeballs, And 1115 00:54:14,387 --> 00:54:17,347 Speaker 13: you've got sponsors who are sort of demanding and wanting 1116 00:54:17,427 --> 00:54:19,587 Speaker 13: growth and they want to know that they're hitting the 1117 00:54:19,667 --> 00:54:23,467 Speaker 13: maximum amount of people, and you've got as many viewers 1118 00:54:23,547 --> 00:54:27,267 Speaker 13: watching the game so that the sport remains relevant. Again, 1119 00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:30,107 Speaker 13: New Zealand's different because it's not as competitive from a 1120 00:54:30,187 --> 00:54:33,467 Speaker 13: media point of view, and rugby is the number one sport. 1121 00:54:33,547 --> 00:54:35,107 Speaker 7: But there are all things that you've got to consider. 1122 00:54:36,027 --> 00:54:39,147 Speaker 3: You mentioned the anti siphening legislation before in Australia. Does 1123 00:54:39,187 --> 00:54:40,547 Speaker 3: that work well in your view? 1124 00:54:42,227 --> 00:54:46,467 Speaker 13: So that's a great question, and it creates divided opinion, 1125 00:54:46,747 --> 00:54:49,667 Speaker 13: but I think it's actually a good thing because it 1126 00:54:49,787 --> 00:54:54,507 Speaker 13: sort of puts a ring fence around certain premium sports 1127 00:54:54,627 --> 00:54:56,667 Speaker 13: so that it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor. 1128 00:54:56,707 --> 00:54:58,227 Speaker 13: You can get it on free to wear, and our 1129 00:54:58,307 --> 00:55:02,587 Speaker 13: free to wear industry in Australia, as challenged as it is, 1130 00:55:03,747 --> 00:55:07,307 Speaker 13: is incredibly high quality and so it just means that 1131 00:55:08,227 --> 00:55:11,827 Speaker 13: if you can't afford a subscription to a PayTV service, 1132 00:55:11,987 --> 00:55:15,587 Speaker 13: you get to watch premium sports, and that includes parts 1133 00:55:15,667 --> 00:55:18,147 Speaker 13: of the Olympics and other big events. 1134 00:55:17,867 --> 00:55:20,667 Speaker 7: Around the world. So there are a lot of people. 1135 00:55:20,507 --> 00:55:24,067 Speaker 13: Who say to they look, in a fully competitive environment, 1136 00:55:24,387 --> 00:55:27,027 Speaker 13: you should just make it a free for all, and 1137 00:55:28,147 --> 00:55:30,627 Speaker 13: some sports like it because they think they can drive 1138 00:55:31,267 --> 00:55:35,587 Speaker 13: the maximum dollar value for the sport and there is currency. 1139 00:55:35,267 --> 00:55:36,027 Speaker 7: In that argument. 1140 00:55:36,147 --> 00:55:38,547 Speaker 13: I don't deny it, but I'm of the view that 1141 00:55:38,627 --> 00:55:43,827 Speaker 13: I think in some instances the anti sastening law is beneficial. 1142 00:55:44,587 --> 00:55:47,187 Speaker 3: And can you see a time, Hamish, where New Zealand 1143 00:55:47,267 --> 00:55:51,067 Speaker 3: Rugby or any national rugby union takes their broadcasting in 1144 00:55:51,227 --> 00:55:53,427 Speaker 3: house and sells direct to consumer. 1145 00:55:54,187 --> 00:55:55,427 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely. 1146 00:55:55,547 --> 00:55:59,747 Speaker 13: So there are sports here like supercars, the eight Supercars 1147 00:55:59,787 --> 00:56:02,907 Speaker 13: that do it all in house, like the tennis in Australia, 1148 00:56:03,867 --> 00:56:05,147 Speaker 13: produce it and then they on. 1149 00:56:05,387 --> 00:56:06,707 Speaker 7: Sell the broadcast. 1150 00:56:07,347 --> 00:56:10,267 Speaker 13: But if you look at the traditional of the existing model, 1151 00:56:10,907 --> 00:56:13,467 Speaker 13: it's pretty good for the sport because you you know, 1152 00:56:13,587 --> 00:56:16,347 Speaker 13: if you negotiate well and you get a good check size, 1153 00:56:16,587 --> 00:56:20,387 Speaker 13: then they do all the production and so you know, 1154 00:56:20,507 --> 00:56:25,107 Speaker 13: I think for some sports, you know, ones like rugby, 1155 00:56:25,147 --> 00:56:27,547 Speaker 13: where you've got it being played all over the country, 1156 00:56:27,587 --> 00:56:30,067 Speaker 13: you don't have to worry about the production side of it. 1157 00:56:31,867 --> 00:56:34,267 Speaker 3: It's such a fascinating topic, Hamous, You've lent us some 1158 00:56:34,387 --> 00:56:36,947 Speaker 3: great expertise, lots for our listeners to think about and 1159 00:56:37,027 --> 00:56:38,827 Speaker 3: to chat about. Thank you so much for joining us 1160 00:56:38,827 --> 00:56:42,307 Speaker 3: across New Zealand today. Cheers, thank you, no, thank you, Hamish. 1161 00:56:42,347 --> 00:56:47,587 Speaker 3: Hamish McLennan, former chair of Rugby Australia. But huge insight 1162 00:56:47,787 --> 00:56:52,067 Speaker 3: and understanding of the changing media landscape, particularly as it 1163 00:56:52,187 --> 00:56:55,827 Speaker 3: relates to sport. I wanted to get your thoughts on 1164 00:56:55,907 --> 00:56:59,147 Speaker 3: that you've heard from Hamish mcclennan. I'm keen to get 1165 00:56:59,187 --> 00:57:02,387 Speaker 3: your reaction on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and 1166 00:57:02,987 --> 00:57:07,067 Speaker 3: in particular on the subject of free to air rugby. 1167 00:57:07,627 --> 00:57:10,867 Speaker 3: Now we all know that the days of all rugby 1168 00:57:10,947 --> 00:57:16,187 Speaker 3: being freeoware are gone. Broadcast revenue is simply too important 1169 00:57:16,787 --> 00:57:19,667 Speaker 3: to the financial health of New Zealand Rugby, and even 1170 00:57:19,747 --> 00:57:22,907 Speaker 3: as it stands, New Zealand Rugby are looking at a 1171 00:57:22,987 --> 00:57:27,187 Speaker 3: short fall of twenty six million dollars if the figures 1172 00:57:27,307 --> 00:57:30,827 Speaker 3: being reported our ACRA. That's twenty six million dollars per 1173 00:57:31,027 --> 00:57:34,747 Speaker 3: year one hundred and eleven million dollars per year under 1174 00:57:34,787 --> 00:57:40,907 Speaker 3: the current deal. Reportedly eighty five million is the latest 1175 00:57:41,027 --> 00:57:45,707 Speaker 3: offer that's being reported for the next five years. But 1176 00:57:45,827 --> 00:57:48,667 Speaker 3: if the example of cricket has taught us anything, it's 1177 00:57:48,747 --> 00:57:51,387 Speaker 3: that free too wear coverage of your sport is absolutely 1178 00:57:51,547 --> 00:57:55,347 Speaker 3: vital to the ongoing health of your sport. Not everybody 1179 00:57:55,387 --> 00:58:00,187 Speaker 3: has Sky, not everybody has access to watching sport on 1180 00:58:00,347 --> 00:58:03,787 Speaker 3: pay per view. Many of us developed our love of 1181 00:58:03,947 --> 00:58:07,147 Speaker 3: sport or the sports we follow by watching them on TV. 1182 00:58:08,547 --> 00:58:11,307 Speaker 3: So if the sport isn't there to watch, if it's 1183 00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:15,107 Speaker 3: not accessible, then how can that happen? How can we 1184 00:58:16,867 --> 00:58:19,627 Speaker 3: develop a love for that sport if we can't see it? 1185 00:58:21,027 --> 00:58:24,227 Speaker 3: So what is the best balance? How do New Zealand 1186 00:58:24,307 --> 00:58:27,387 Speaker 3: Rugby keep enough of their content on pay per view 1187 00:58:28,187 --> 00:58:30,987 Speaker 3: in order to get the best possible deal from Sky 1188 00:58:31,987 --> 00:58:35,387 Speaker 3: while at the same time having enough rugby on free 1189 00:58:35,467 --> 00:58:39,307 Speaker 3: to air to draw in as much of the population 1190 00:58:39,427 --> 00:58:42,667 Speaker 3: as possible. It is a balancing act and I'd be 1191 00:58:42,747 --> 00:58:45,707 Speaker 3: keen to hear your views on how best they do it. Oh, 1192 00:58:45,787 --> 00:58:49,787 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two if 1193 00:58:49,827 --> 00:58:52,067 Speaker 3: you would like to send a text, We're back with 1194 00:58:52,827 --> 00:58:54,947 Speaker 3: your calls after this on new Stalks you'd be and 1195 00:58:54,987 --> 00:58:58,307 Speaker 3: weekend sport, there can be no doubt about it. It's 1196 00:58:58,347 --> 00:59:01,867 Speaker 3: a time for celebrations, celebrating with family and friends, celebrating 1197 00:59:01,907 --> 00:59:04,547 Speaker 3: the joys of a glorious Kei we summer and when 1198 00:59:04,587 --> 00:59:06,907 Speaker 3: we celebrate, we call for a toast, and that calls 1199 00:59:06,987 --> 00:59:11,427 Speaker 3: for champagne Bollinger, a champagne that enjoys respect and yes, 1200 00:59:11,547 --> 00:59:15,267 Speaker 3: devotion from wine and food enthusiasts all around the world. 1201 00:59:15,547 --> 00:59:18,627 Speaker 3: We could settle for just any champagne, but why would we. 1202 00:59:18,787 --> 00:59:22,467 Speaker 3: Life is too short for just champagne. That's why we 1203 00:59:22,667 --> 00:59:26,427 Speaker 3: enjoy a champagne synonymous with style, a wine with a 1204 00:59:26,627 --> 00:59:29,107 Speaker 3: lust for life, a wine made by a team of 1205 00:59:29,187 --> 00:59:34,547 Speaker 3: devoted and passionate individuals committed to excellence, A distinctive champagne 1206 00:59:34,547 --> 00:59:37,067 Speaker 3: to be enjoyed together. So be part of the Champagne 1207 00:59:37,147 --> 00:59:42,027 Speaker 3: Bollinger family, because Bolli is certainly never boring. Looking for champagne, 1208 00:59:42,347 --> 00:59:45,787 Speaker 3: then look for Champagne Bollinger weekends. 1209 00:59:45,867 --> 00:59:46,067 Speaker 11: For it. 1210 00:59:47,227 --> 00:59:49,387 Speaker 3: On news talks, there'd be eight hundred and eighty ten 1211 00:59:49,467 --> 00:59:52,787 Speaker 3: eighty as we talk sports rights, rugby rights, sport on 1212 00:59:52,947 --> 00:59:57,147 Speaker 3: free to wear television and the best balance for all concerned. 1213 00:59:57,347 --> 01:00:00,587 Speaker 3: Hello Trevor, thanks for calling and thanks for holding Hey fining, 1214 01:00:00,667 --> 01:00:02,387 Speaker 3: how you made very good, Trevor, very good? 1215 01:00:02,987 --> 01:00:04,347 Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I find it's interesting. 1216 01:00:04,467 --> 01:00:06,867 Speaker 14: It's be spoken about us for a long long time 1217 01:00:06,907 --> 01:00:09,867 Speaker 14: and I just want to compare New Zealand rugby to 1218 01:00:09,947 --> 01:00:14,507 Speaker 14: a world class competition in Australia called the NRL. And look, 1219 01:00:14,627 --> 01:00:17,267 Speaker 14: you know, I know there's more money in Australia and 1220 01:00:17,347 --> 01:00:18,507 Speaker 14: more people, but I'll tell you what. 1221 01:00:19,027 --> 01:00:19,987 Speaker 8: The competition for. 1222 01:00:20,067 --> 01:00:22,987 Speaker 14: Viewing dollars is red hot. And it's quite amazing that 1223 01:00:23,107 --> 01:00:27,827 Speaker 14: New Zealand Ranby has been totally dominated everything in New Zealand, 1224 01:00:28,227 --> 01:00:30,027 Speaker 14: and I just think they're going in the wrong direction. 1225 01:00:30,387 --> 01:00:32,907 Speaker 14: I think the key about the NRL is the NRL 1226 01:00:33,027 --> 01:00:36,307 Speaker 14: said some of our games are free. They have a 1227 01:00:36,347 --> 01:00:39,307 Speaker 14: Friday night game free on Channel nine, a Sunday game 1228 01:00:39,427 --> 01:00:41,747 Speaker 14: free and over. You notice when you get State of 1229 01:00:41,787 --> 01:00:46,827 Speaker 14: Origin it is Channel nine. And you know the quality 1230 01:00:47,067 --> 01:00:49,707 Speaker 14: of both those, you know, Fox and Channel I mean 1231 01:00:49,787 --> 01:00:52,147 Speaker 14: Channel nine Free to wear. I mean, look, we're talking 1232 01:00:52,147 --> 01:00:54,667 Speaker 14: about Ray Warren, We're talking about Peter Sterling, We're talking 1233 01:00:54,707 --> 01:00:57,547 Speaker 14: about Full Gold. You know, we're talking about the well 1234 01:00:57,547 --> 01:01:00,227 Speaker 14: the Footy Show when I was on absolutely high class 1235 01:01:00,307 --> 01:01:03,627 Speaker 14: delivery to everybody. 1236 01:01:03,147 --> 01:01:04,027 Speaker 3: Who wants to watch it. 1237 01:01:04,107 --> 01:01:06,907 Speaker 14: And I think that's where they just very very clever. 1238 01:01:07,027 --> 01:01:10,027 Speaker 14: I mean, they'll always put the State of Origin on 1239 01:01:10,147 --> 01:01:13,347 Speaker 14: free to wear. Oh it doesn't matter what money Fox 1240 01:01:13,427 --> 01:01:16,307 Speaker 14: come up with, they'll always because they know that as 1241 01:01:16,387 --> 01:01:19,067 Speaker 14: long as you get the general sports fan, not the 1242 01:01:19,147 --> 01:01:22,187 Speaker 14: addicts like me who are just engrossed in the NRL, 1243 01:01:22,747 --> 01:01:25,707 Speaker 14: you know, they're getting the average sports fan just enough 1244 01:01:25,827 --> 01:01:28,707 Speaker 14: rugby league to keep them happy with their two games 1245 01:01:28,787 --> 01:01:31,107 Speaker 14: a week and all the big games. So I just 1246 01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:33,507 Speaker 14: think these rugby got to be a little bit careful 1247 01:01:33,667 --> 01:01:37,507 Speaker 14: and they able to look more at the popularity and 1248 01:01:37,627 --> 01:01:41,387 Speaker 14: the viewing eyes of rugby because I think the numbers 1249 01:01:41,427 --> 01:01:41,947 Speaker 14: are going down. 1250 01:01:42,427 --> 01:01:45,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look it's the balance to be struck, Trevor. 1251 01:01:45,787 --> 01:01:47,947 Speaker 3: And as you know, I mean obviously bigger market over 1252 01:01:48,027 --> 01:01:50,667 Speaker 3: in Australia, so they can you know, there are more 1253 01:01:51,587 --> 01:01:54,787 Speaker 3: you know, more potential pay per view customers over there, 1254 01:01:55,307 --> 01:01:59,267 Speaker 3: but that but you're I just think if the cricket 1255 01:01:59,307 --> 01:02:02,027 Speaker 3: example has taught us anything, and that happened really by 1256 01:02:02,227 --> 01:02:05,067 Speaker 3: chance more than anything, it happened because of the demise 1257 01:02:05,107 --> 01:02:07,267 Speaker 3: of Spark sport that as you know, all the cricket 1258 01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,467 Speaker 3: went to TV and Z all of the cricket is 1259 01:02:09,547 --> 01:02:11,587 Speaker 3: on free to wear across the summer. We can watch 1260 01:02:11,827 --> 01:02:13,907 Speaker 3: the Black Caps, we can watch the White fans, watch 1261 01:02:13,947 --> 01:02:16,867 Speaker 3: the domestic super smash. All these eyeballs on it that 1262 01:02:16,907 --> 01:02:19,507 Speaker 3: wouldn't ordinarily have been there. And therefore the health of 1263 01:02:19,587 --> 01:02:23,627 Speaker 3: the sport has to be enhanced by that. It's happened 1264 01:02:23,667 --> 01:02:26,867 Speaker 3: by good fortune, but it has provided a really good example, 1265 01:02:26,867 --> 01:02:28,827 Speaker 3: and it's the first thing Hamus M. Clinton said, you've 1266 01:02:28,867 --> 01:02:30,267 Speaker 3: got to have some on free to wear. 1267 01:02:30,427 --> 01:02:32,227 Speaker 13: You have to you do. 1268 01:02:32,427 --> 01:02:34,947 Speaker 14: And it just surprises me really that New Zealand ranby. 1269 01:02:35,347 --> 01:02:38,427 Speaker 14: Don't look across the bitch and see how we've you know, 1270 01:02:38,587 --> 01:02:40,747 Speaker 14: you've put it there. There's a lot more people, a 1271 01:02:40,787 --> 01:02:44,027 Speaker 14: lot more money, but the competition it's much much hotter there. 1272 01:02:44,227 --> 01:02:46,387 Speaker 14: And when you think about New Zealand rugby has had 1273 01:02:47,027 --> 01:02:52,467 Speaker 14: total total domination of sponsorship, money, TV rights everything in 1274 01:02:52,507 --> 01:02:56,547 Speaker 14: New Zealand and in the positions and now I just 1275 01:02:56,747 --> 01:02:59,667 Speaker 14: doesn't I don't think of bodes well. And I would 1276 01:02:59,707 --> 01:03:02,387 Speaker 14: love to see this guy that's running the URL now, 1277 01:03:02,467 --> 01:03:07,307 Speaker 14: who's just got this world class competition going, going expanding. 1278 01:03:07,387 --> 01:03:10,027 Speaker 14: They're off the Las Vegas. I would like to get 1279 01:03:10,107 --> 01:03:13,587 Speaker 14: home to run not just New Zealand rugby, world rugby, 1280 01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:15,987 Speaker 14: and I'll tell you what it'll be on a different level. 1281 01:03:16,067 --> 01:03:16,227 Speaker 7: Mate. 1282 01:03:17,027 --> 01:03:19,387 Speaker 3: Thanks for a call, Trevor, as always good chatting to you. 1283 01:03:20,107 --> 01:03:23,027 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'm just very 1284 01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:26,867 Speaker 3: very keen to try and find the balance here because again, 1285 01:03:26,907 --> 01:03:29,747 Speaker 3: as Hamish Mutendan said, we're talking about broadcast rights here 1286 01:03:29,787 --> 01:03:32,947 Speaker 3: by the way, because the New Zealand rugby rights are 1287 01:03:33,027 --> 01:03:35,307 Speaker 3: up for all blacks tests, for Super rugby, for MPC, 1288 01:03:36,067 --> 01:03:40,427 Speaker 3: and they are a key plank in the revenue of 1289 01:03:40,587 --> 01:03:44,867 Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby, of any professional sporting organization. The revenue 1290 01:03:45,147 --> 01:03:50,267 Speaker 3: streams are broadcast, sponsorship and ticket revenue and merchandise that 1291 01:03:50,347 --> 01:03:54,387 Speaker 3: sort of thing. So it's such a key plank. And 1292 01:03:55,747 --> 01:03:57,787 Speaker 3: when you're losing, when you've got a twenty six million 1293 01:03:57,787 --> 01:04:01,667 Speaker 3: dollar hole, that's got to be filled somehow or you 1294 01:04:01,827 --> 01:04:04,427 Speaker 3: have to cut your cloth to suit. And what that'll 1295 01:04:04,467 --> 01:04:07,147 Speaker 3: mean is that we don't have as much money to 1296 01:04:07,627 --> 01:04:13,027 Speaker 3: keep our top players here because the big competitions in 1297 01:04:13,427 --> 01:04:17,027 Speaker 3: the Northern Hemisphere, up in Japan, even in the United 1298 01:04:17,107 --> 01:04:20,387 Speaker 3: States now have a checkbook that they can throw around. 1299 01:04:20,587 --> 01:04:24,747 Speaker 3: So we have to have a war chest here which 1300 01:04:24,867 --> 01:04:27,907 Speaker 3: enables us to compete, enables us to pay our top 1301 01:04:27,987 --> 01:04:31,467 Speaker 3: players and therefore have them stay here in New Zealand. 1302 01:04:31,867 --> 01:04:37,387 Speaker 3: So revenue from broadcast is important. But and here's the butt, 1303 01:04:38,427 --> 01:04:41,787 Speaker 3: there must be rugby on free to wear television. I 1304 01:04:41,947 --> 01:04:44,107 Speaker 3: just don't see how there can be any other way. 1305 01:04:44,427 --> 01:04:47,267 Speaker 3: We have come full circle with this now and that 1306 01:04:48,307 --> 01:04:52,267 Speaker 3: unless you had sky in recent times outside of World Cups, 1307 01:04:52,267 --> 01:04:55,027 Speaker 3: where there was where there were matches that were broadcast 1308 01:04:55,107 --> 01:04:59,107 Speaker 3: on free toware you were not able to watch the 1309 01:04:59,187 --> 01:05:02,467 Speaker 3: All Blacks play, You're not able to watch your Super 1310 01:05:02,547 --> 01:05:08,187 Speaker 3: Rugby team play, You're not able to watch NPC. And look, 1311 01:05:08,227 --> 01:05:09,587 Speaker 3: I grew up in a time and you may have 1312 01:05:09,587 --> 01:05:12,427 Speaker 3: as well where it was all free. And I'm not 1313 01:05:12,547 --> 01:05:15,187 Speaker 3: getting misty eyed and saying we need to go back 1314 01:05:15,227 --> 01:05:17,867 Speaker 3: to those days where all rugby was on free to 1315 01:05:17,907 --> 01:05:21,627 Speaker 3: wear TV. It's a different world now. The professional game demands, 1316 01:05:21,707 --> 01:05:25,667 Speaker 3: as I just said, revenue from broadcast. You simply must 1317 01:05:25,787 --> 01:05:28,747 Speaker 3: put some behind a paywall in order to get revenue 1318 01:05:28,827 --> 01:05:31,987 Speaker 3: from someone like Sky. But where is the balance to 1319 01:05:32,067 --> 01:05:34,747 Speaker 3: be struck? It has to be struck, and that is 1320 01:05:34,827 --> 01:05:39,747 Speaker 3: the really interesting part of this conversation. Oh, eight hundred 1321 01:05:39,747 --> 01:05:43,227 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty Hello, Jason, Now I am good. 1322 01:05:44,307 --> 01:05:48,307 Speaker 11: I've got an interesting one. A period of a fifteen 1323 01:05:48,347 --> 01:05:53,307 Speaker 11: year old Clint. He's a leading rugby school and from 1324 01:05:53,387 --> 01:05:56,467 Speaker 11: the team last year most in this rugby team played 1325 01:05:56,547 --> 01:06:01,667 Speaker 11: league on Sundays for outside of school. Last year, five 1326 01:06:01,787 --> 01:06:04,387 Speaker 11: of the kids from his team were offered rugby league 1327 01:06:04,467 --> 01:06:08,867 Speaker 11: contracts in Australia and from his team. When I ever 1328 01:06:08,947 --> 01:06:12,187 Speaker 11: see them together, they're all wearing rugby league uniforms and 1329 01:06:12,307 --> 01:06:14,067 Speaker 11: none of them go to any of the Auckland Blues 1330 01:06:14,107 --> 01:06:17,347 Speaker 11: games first and foremost of the rugby players, but they're 1331 01:06:17,347 --> 01:06:21,427 Speaker 11: also league fans. But there's no engagement and attraction with 1332 01:06:21,587 --> 01:06:23,867 Speaker 11: the product that's been offered by New Zealand Rugby to 1333 01:06:23,947 --> 01:06:24,667 Speaker 11: these young kids. 1334 01:06:25,627 --> 01:06:26,707 Speaker 7: Of those five kids that. 1335 01:06:26,747 --> 01:06:29,067 Speaker 11: Got offered, three of them took up scholarships and two 1336 01:06:29,067 --> 01:06:31,587 Speaker 11: of them are now living in Australia and the third 1337 01:06:31,667 --> 01:06:33,747 Speaker 11: one is moving across there this year. 1338 01:06:34,347 --> 01:06:35,947 Speaker 7: The other two have decided not too. 1339 01:06:37,707 --> 01:06:37,747 Speaker 9: So. 1340 01:06:38,307 --> 01:06:42,987 Speaker 3: And is there from your point of view, Jason, can 1341 01:06:43,067 --> 01:06:46,747 Speaker 3: you see any desire by them or by other members 1342 01:06:46,787 --> 01:06:50,227 Speaker 3: of your son's team to follow a career into professional rugby. 1343 01:06:52,267 --> 01:06:55,947 Speaker 11: Yes, but they it's amazing watching these kids who are 1344 01:06:55,987 --> 01:06:58,867 Speaker 11: playing rugby, you know, good rugby at a high level 1345 01:06:58,907 --> 01:07:01,467 Speaker 11: for their school, but they love rugby league and if 1346 01:07:01,507 --> 01:07:04,307 Speaker 11: they had a choice to watch games and weekend they're 1347 01:07:04,347 --> 01:07:08,667 Speaker 11: watching rugby league. They're wearing rugby league material and they're 1348 01:07:08,707 --> 01:07:13,187 Speaker 11: not engaged with you know, as we were as fans 1349 01:07:13,387 --> 01:07:16,947 Speaker 11: of rugby. And it feels to me that the ife 1350 01:07:17,067 --> 01:07:19,827 Speaker 11: I call it the product. The stories aren't there, the 1351 01:07:19,907 --> 01:07:22,467 Speaker 11: heroes aren't there, and the kids aren't engaged. They play 1352 01:07:22,587 --> 01:07:25,587 Speaker 11: rugby because it's the only sport offered at their school, 1353 01:07:26,387 --> 01:07:28,907 Speaker 11: but if league was offered that probably the majority of 1354 01:07:28,947 --> 01:07:30,507 Speaker 11: them would be playing rugby league. 1355 01:07:31,507 --> 01:07:35,507 Speaker 3: That's so interesting, so interesting, and if. 1356 01:07:35,467 --> 01:07:37,907 Speaker 11: You don't go back and engage kids at that level, 1357 01:07:38,427 --> 01:07:40,187 Speaker 11: you know, it's as fans later on. 1358 01:07:40,907 --> 01:07:41,747 Speaker 3: Why do you think it is? 1359 01:07:41,787 --> 01:07:41,827 Speaker 15: What? 1360 01:07:41,987 --> 01:07:42,027 Speaker 8: What? 1361 01:07:42,227 --> 01:07:44,587 Speaker 3: What form does the engagement take? Why is it that 1362 01:07:44,667 --> 01:07:47,347 Speaker 3: they are so much more invested in watching, you know, 1363 01:07:47,547 --> 01:07:49,747 Speaker 3: the Bulldogs and the rabbit Oos than the Blues and 1364 01:07:49,787 --> 01:07:50,187 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. 1365 01:07:50,907 --> 01:07:54,307 Speaker 11: Oh jeez, A million dollar question. Is New Zealand rugby 1366 01:07:54,387 --> 01:07:57,987 Speaker 11: knew that. I think you've got the I think the 1367 01:07:58,067 --> 01:08:03,027 Speaker 11: simplicity of the league competition, it hasn't changed the same 1368 01:08:03,107 --> 01:08:06,587 Speaker 11: every year. You've got the traditional rivalries and all those 1369 01:08:06,627 --> 01:08:08,947 Speaker 11: wonderful things. And if you're a fifteen year old kid 1370 01:08:09,467 --> 01:08:11,987 Speaker 11: and you've been following rugby for ten years, the format's 1371 01:08:12,067 --> 01:08:13,867 Speaker 11: changed on you three or four times, so you don't 1372 01:08:13,907 --> 01:08:18,467 Speaker 11: know who to support, and those traditional rivalries are there, 1373 01:08:19,067 --> 01:08:22,387 Speaker 11: and then the product is just for the kids. It's 1374 01:08:22,547 --> 01:08:25,747 Speaker 11: just not presented in the way that's engaging to them, 1375 01:08:25,787 --> 01:08:29,667 Speaker 11: whether it's the heroes or I really don't know that 1376 01:08:29,787 --> 01:08:30,187 Speaker 11: it's more. 1377 01:08:30,387 --> 01:08:31,387 Speaker 7: I was just calling you to go. 1378 01:08:31,667 --> 01:08:34,867 Speaker 11: This is one of the most interesting situations I've ever 1379 01:08:34,987 --> 01:08:38,227 Speaker 11: seen where you've got these high performance young kids coming 1380 01:08:38,267 --> 01:08:41,347 Speaker 11: through the next round of All blacks coming through, or 1381 01:08:41,427 --> 01:08:45,867 Speaker 11: you know, provincial players or club players, but on bulk 1382 01:08:46,187 --> 01:08:49,627 Speaker 11: they wear rugby league agear, they watch rugby league instead 1383 01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:53,787 Speaker 11: of Super rugby. They will most of them play rugby 1384 01:08:53,867 --> 01:08:56,627 Speaker 11: league on Sunday, not for the school because the school 1385 01:08:56,667 --> 01:08:59,667 Speaker 11: doesn't offer it, but for other teams. And at the 1386 01:08:59,747 --> 01:09:04,827 Speaker 11: same time you've got rugby league groups from Australia coming 1387 01:09:04,907 --> 01:09:08,227 Speaker 11: over and five kids from this one team last year 1388 01:09:08,547 --> 01:09:11,547 Speaker 11: offered scholarships. Two of them took it up in the 1389 01:09:11,587 --> 01:09:13,947 Speaker 11: third ones taking it up this year and moving to 1390 01:09:14,027 --> 01:09:15,387 Speaker 11: a space interesting. 1391 01:09:15,947 --> 01:09:17,467 Speaker 3: Just what I've got just on the SU just on 1392 01:09:17,507 --> 01:09:20,387 Speaker 3: the subject of the and and engagement of courses, the 1393 01:09:20,467 --> 01:09:24,747 Speaker 3: overarching umbrella under which we're chatting here, but the because 1394 01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:26,267 Speaker 3: n R else not free to wear either, is it? 1395 01:09:26,347 --> 01:09:27,547 Speaker 3: We can't you know, if you want to sit down 1396 01:09:27,547 --> 01:09:29,707 Speaker 3: and watch an rally here, you can't watch. You can't 1397 01:09:29,707 --> 01:09:33,067 Speaker 3: watch your free to wear, So uh is free to 1398 01:09:33,147 --> 01:09:36,187 Speaker 3: wear a big part of engaging young people. 1399 01:09:35,987 --> 01:09:39,387 Speaker 11: In your view, I'm sorry, I haven't got an opinion. 1400 01:09:40,547 --> 01:09:40,987 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1401 01:09:42,747 --> 01:09:46,267 Speaker 3: I don't either, That's the thing I don't either, like 1402 01:09:46,827 --> 01:09:49,467 Speaker 3: my gut feelers that it does, because you can't be 1403 01:09:49,627 --> 01:09:53,107 Speaker 3: it unless you can see it. But yeah, but I again, 1404 01:09:53,187 --> 01:09:56,147 Speaker 3: I understand that you know the the finances and the 1405 01:09:56,227 --> 01:09:57,787 Speaker 3: mechanics of the whole thing. You've got to have money 1406 01:09:57,827 --> 01:10:00,267 Speaker 3: to drive the game and to keep the best players here. 1407 01:10:00,307 --> 01:10:02,507 Speaker 3: But yeah, what you've brought into the conversation is interesting. Jose, 1408 01:10:02,707 --> 01:10:03,987 Speaker 3: Thanks mate, all the best to you and your boy. 1409 01:10:05,347 --> 01:10:07,907 Speaker 3: Thanks mate, bye bye. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1410 01:10:08,067 --> 01:10:10,067 Speaker 3: is our number. Yeah, keen to just just to find 1411 01:10:10,107 --> 01:10:12,547 Speaker 3: the balance, and it's a balance, I'm sure. I speaking 1412 01:10:12,587 --> 01:10:16,467 Speaker 3: to Scott Weenink about this, the CEO of New Zealand Cricket, 1413 01:10:16,947 --> 01:10:18,627 Speaker 3: and I want to come back to the cricket example 1414 01:10:18,627 --> 01:10:20,267 Speaker 3: because I've got a couple of texts on it that 1415 01:10:20,667 --> 01:10:24,427 Speaker 3: that's you know, what has been shown to them by accident, 1416 01:10:25,027 --> 01:10:27,947 Speaker 3: more than anything else is the value of free to 1417 01:10:28,027 --> 01:10:31,227 Speaker 3: wear coverage of their sport. You all know what's happened here. 1418 01:10:31,267 --> 01:10:34,227 Speaker 3: Sparksport got the rights to cricket Sky had had it 1419 01:10:34,267 --> 01:10:38,547 Speaker 3: for ages. Sparksport came into the market aggressively and were 1420 01:10:39,627 --> 01:10:44,147 Speaker 3: sold the rights to international and domestic cricket by New 1421 01:10:44,227 --> 01:10:47,187 Speaker 3: Zealand Cricket. So test matches here in New Zealand, one 1422 01:10:47,267 --> 01:10:50,307 Speaker 3: Day internationals, tweet t twenty internationals, all of the super 1423 01:10:50,347 --> 01:10:54,547 Speaker 3: smash stuff that was all on Spark. Then, as we know, 1424 01:10:54,947 --> 01:10:58,787 Speaker 3: Spark fell over, Spark ceased to exist, ceased to operate. 1425 01:10:58,947 --> 01:11:02,827 Speaker 3: Not Spark the company, but Spark Sport. Don't panic, Spark 1426 01:11:02,947 --> 01:11:05,787 Speaker 3: is still a company. Spark Sport is not. No need 1427 01:11:05,827 --> 01:11:09,227 Speaker 3: to panic anyway. The upshot was TV and Z took 1428 01:11:09,267 --> 01:11:12,587 Speaker 3: on all the cricket it's free to wear. But New 1429 01:11:12,667 --> 01:11:15,627 Speaker 3: Zealand Crickets still got the money from Spark Sport. They 1430 01:11:15,827 --> 01:11:19,267 Speaker 3: honored the contract and therefore New Zealand Cricket are getting 1431 01:11:19,267 --> 01:11:22,267 Speaker 3: the best of both worlds. They are getting free to 1432 01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:25,787 Speaker 3: wear cricket and the money owed to them by somebody 1433 01:11:25,787 --> 01:11:29,267 Speaker 3: who's paid for pay per view cricket. It is an unusual, 1434 01:11:29,467 --> 01:11:32,787 Speaker 3: unique situation, and I've got a text here that says 1435 01:11:32,827 --> 01:11:35,867 Speaker 3: lok the free to wear discussion lacks transparency. The cricket 1436 01:11:35,947 --> 01:11:38,867 Speaker 3: rights won't stay with TV and Z because they won't 1437 01:11:39,187 --> 01:11:43,587 Speaker 3: pay the money Spark is subsidizing at present. Yes, that 1438 01:11:43,747 --> 01:11:46,107 Speaker 3: stops very soon. Sky's the only option TV and Z 1439 01:11:46,227 --> 01:11:49,947 Speaker 3: won't pay, and money is essential for the sport to continue. 1440 01:11:50,147 --> 01:11:54,627 Speaker 3: See this is the very very big Gnali conversation that 1441 01:11:54,787 --> 01:11:56,507 Speaker 3: those at New Zealand Cricket are going to have to 1442 01:11:56,587 --> 01:11:59,987 Speaker 3: have very very soon. Next summer I think, in fact 1443 01:12:00,027 --> 01:12:02,747 Speaker 3: I know, is the last summer of this deal. So 1444 01:12:02,907 --> 01:12:04,747 Speaker 3: Cricket will be on free to wear next summer the 1445 01:12:04,787 --> 01:12:07,907 Speaker 3: summer of twenty five twenty six. Beyond that the rights 1446 01:12:07,907 --> 01:12:11,067 Speaker 3: are up for grams again and New Zealand Cricket, with 1447 01:12:11,187 --> 01:12:13,627 Speaker 3: Sky being the only real player in the market, will 1448 01:12:13,667 --> 01:12:17,467 Speaker 3: have to go back to them almost cap in hand 1449 01:12:17,587 --> 01:12:20,467 Speaker 3: in some ways because they they I don't think treated 1450 01:12:21,347 --> 01:12:24,347 Speaker 3: Sky particularly well last time. I remember speaking to David 1451 01:12:24,387 --> 01:12:28,467 Speaker 3: White on the old Radio Sport when these rights were 1452 01:12:28,507 --> 01:12:32,227 Speaker 3: awarded to Spark Sport and he said, I said, well 1453 01:12:32,227 --> 01:12:35,387 Speaker 3: when did you tell Sky? And he said, we told 1454 01:12:35,427 --> 01:12:38,667 Speaker 3: them this morning. So the day they found out, on 1455 01:12:38,787 --> 01:12:41,947 Speaker 3: the day that Spark were awarded the rights that they 1456 01:12:41,987 --> 01:12:44,667 Speaker 3: hadn't got them. So I'm not sure that that relationship 1457 01:12:44,787 --> 01:12:48,947 Speaker 3: ended particularly well. Obviously, people move on and I'm sure 1458 01:12:48,987 --> 01:12:50,507 Speaker 3: Sky will want to be in the market for Life 1459 01:12:50,547 --> 01:12:52,907 Speaker 3: Cricket again because there's great content for them. But it's 1460 01:12:52,907 --> 01:12:55,947 Speaker 3: a very interesting conversation to have. And again, where does 1461 01:12:56,027 --> 01:13:00,107 Speaker 3: the free to wear elements come into this? You simply 1462 01:13:00,267 --> 01:13:04,667 Speaker 3: must have some free to wear segments of your sport 1463 01:13:04,747 --> 01:13:06,707 Speaker 3: for me, and I'm not talking about necessary already on 1464 01:13:06,747 --> 01:13:10,987 Speaker 3: Sky Open on the on the Sky platform which is free. 1465 01:13:11,067 --> 01:13:12,947 Speaker 3: You can tune in on normal TV to it. But 1466 01:13:13,267 --> 01:13:16,147 Speaker 3: I certain think people either want to or know how 1467 01:13:16,227 --> 01:13:20,627 Speaker 3: to TV and z to game changer has been for 1468 01:13:20,707 --> 01:13:24,547 Speaker 3: cricket and will be for any other sport that gets 1469 01:13:24,587 --> 01:13:28,027 Speaker 3: themselves onto TV and z oh eight hundred and eighty 1470 01:13:28,107 --> 01:13:30,507 Speaker 3: ten eighty our number. We'll chat about this a bit longer. 1471 01:13:30,547 --> 01:13:33,067 Speaker 3: Get you across the Tasman to talk Assie open before 1472 01:13:33,067 --> 01:13:36,467 Speaker 3: two o'clock. Hello David, Hi, pony. 1473 01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:37,867 Speaker 10: Mate. 1474 01:13:37,867 --> 01:13:38,627 Speaker 3: What's going on right? 1475 01:13:39,427 --> 01:13:43,307 Speaker 16: Yeah? About the rights? I stream my art and I 1476 01:13:43,387 --> 01:13:45,507 Speaker 16: think I can't. One way is I can't get the 1477 01:13:45,947 --> 01:13:48,427 Speaker 16: watch in our app directly, and that's why I don't 1478 01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:51,667 Speaker 16: ask I sport now as there's so many repeats. If 1479 01:13:51,707 --> 01:13:53,267 Speaker 16: I want to watch in l I should be able 1480 01:13:53,307 --> 01:13:55,347 Speaker 16: to watch, go download watch you know our app and 1481 01:13:55,427 --> 01:13:59,707 Speaker 16: subscribe directly. Same with aufl Anys all the American codes. 1482 01:13:59,747 --> 01:14:02,107 Speaker 16: I can subscribe to their apps directly. 1483 01:14:03,827 --> 01:14:06,027 Speaker 3: David. It's a great point and I mentioned that to 1484 01:14:06,067 --> 01:14:09,547 Speaker 3: Haimer at the end of our chat. Look New Zealand Rugby, 1485 01:14:09,587 --> 01:14:12,267 Speaker 3: I'm sure have looked at it. With injured, our. 1486 01:14:13,067 --> 01:14:16,267 Speaker 16: Injured, our class years one subscribed, I should be able to. 1487 01:14:17,027 --> 01:14:20,547 Speaker 3: So in your view, David, you watch it, I want 1488 01:14:20,627 --> 01:14:23,107 Speaker 3: to watch, yes, like. 1489 01:14:23,147 --> 01:14:25,707 Speaker 16: Phoenix, I don't want to. I want to subscribe to 1490 01:14:25,787 --> 01:14:26,747 Speaker 16: Phoenix stood. 1491 01:14:28,387 --> 01:14:30,947 Speaker 3: So in the so, in the ideal world for you, David, 1492 01:14:31,107 --> 01:14:33,387 Speaker 3: all sports would sell direct to consumer. 1493 01:14:34,827 --> 01:14:37,027 Speaker 16: Yeah, that's that's partnering. The problem is you left so 1494 01:14:37,107 --> 01:14:40,907 Speaker 16: many subscriptions juggles and then there's a lot a lot 1495 01:14:40,947 --> 01:14:43,427 Speaker 16: of other pocket costs. It's the only issue I face. 1496 01:14:43,787 --> 01:14:46,507 Speaker 16: But for me, I would rather go direct because it's 1497 01:14:46,547 --> 01:14:49,667 Speaker 16: money going to the game directly and have them global 1498 01:14:49,787 --> 01:14:52,507 Speaker 16: writes rather than done on a zone basis. I mean, 1499 01:14:52,667 --> 01:14:55,547 Speaker 16: anyone could watch it like you could do in New Zealanders, 1500 01:14:55,587 --> 01:14:58,347 Speaker 16: missing out on supporting your teams back home because. 1501 01:14:58,107 --> 01:14:58,867 Speaker 11: They can't watch it. 1502 01:14:59,787 --> 01:15:03,387 Speaker 3: Yeah. So that the problem with with with sports organizations 1503 01:15:03,467 --> 01:15:05,707 Speaker 3: doing it in the house, David, is that they have 1504 01:15:05,827 --> 01:15:08,027 Speaker 3: to produce the coverage themselves, and that is a cost, 1505 01:15:08,107 --> 01:15:10,907 Speaker 3: a huge cost which is worn by the broadcaster. That's 1506 01:15:10,947 --> 01:15:13,027 Speaker 3: why it's so clean and easy for someone like New 1507 01:15:13,107 --> 01:15:17,027 Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby to say, right, Sky, give us a whole 1508 01:15:17,027 --> 01:15:19,667 Speaker 3: bunch of money and then you look after the broadcast 1509 01:15:19,707 --> 01:15:23,627 Speaker 3: of it. So but there is that conversation to be had. 1510 01:15:24,147 --> 01:15:26,587 Speaker 3: If New Zealand Rugby thought that they could produce the 1511 01:15:26,667 --> 01:15:31,787 Speaker 3: coverage themselves and then sell enough subscriptions that that would 1512 01:15:31,827 --> 01:15:35,627 Speaker 3: cover the cost of broadcast and be big enough to 1513 01:15:36,147 --> 01:15:39,187 Speaker 3: make it a meaty number into their coffers, they would 1514 01:15:39,227 --> 01:15:42,307 Speaker 3: do it. I just don't know whether there there is 1515 01:15:42,307 --> 01:15:45,227 Speaker 3: an appetite for it. I don't know whether they whether 1516 01:15:45,307 --> 01:15:47,787 Speaker 3: they would like would want to do it. I just 1517 01:15:47,827 --> 01:15:50,307 Speaker 3: think it's a massive cost. It takes a lot of 1518 01:15:50,347 --> 01:15:52,307 Speaker 3: expertise to put a live game of rugby on the air, 1519 01:15:52,627 --> 01:15:57,267 Speaker 3: let alone games plural across a whole season. But as 1520 01:15:57,347 --> 01:15:59,627 Speaker 3: you say, there are you know American sports that do it. 1521 01:15:59,867 --> 01:16:03,387 Speaker 3: My son's got NFL pass. He basically pays the NFL 1522 01:16:03,867 --> 01:16:08,867 Speaker 3: for NFL coverage. That's common in the United States, much bigger. Obviously, 1523 01:16:09,267 --> 01:16:13,307 Speaker 3: Will it happen here? Might It's a possibility. Sixteen away 1524 01:16:13,307 --> 01:16:14,947 Speaker 3: from two. When we come back, we're at the Aussie 1525 01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:17,027 Speaker 3: Open with our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock. 1526 01:16:18,627 --> 01:16:22,827 Speaker 1: The most exciting racing on Water Leaves the most exciting 1527 01:16:22,947 --> 01:16:27,067 Speaker 1: sports radio show Weekend Sport with Jason five live from 1528 01:16:27,227 --> 01:16:31,387 Speaker 1: Sale GV and when You're Pointed Auckland with GJ Gunnos, 1529 01:16:31,667 --> 01:16:34,787 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home Builder News Talks, Evy. 1530 01:16:35,187 --> 01:16:37,747 Speaker 3: News Talks thirteen to two more from Sale GP. After two, 1531 01:16:37,827 --> 01:16:39,507 Speaker 3: let's get you across the Tasman to catch up with 1532 01:16:39,587 --> 01:16:43,267 Speaker 3: Australian correspondent Adam Peacock, who's been covering the Australian Open 1533 01:16:43,347 --> 01:16:47,307 Speaker 3: into its third and fourth rounds Adam Novak, Djokovic, Alexander's 1534 01:16:47,387 --> 01:16:49,387 Speaker 3: Varie through to the fourth round on the men's side, 1535 01:16:49,467 --> 01:16:52,107 Speaker 3: Carlos al Karez as well top Sid Yarnick Center in 1536 01:16:52,227 --> 01:16:55,267 Speaker 3: third round action tonight. Have you landed on a favorite 1537 01:16:55,307 --> 01:16:56,707 Speaker 3: from what you've seen in week one? 1538 01:16:58,747 --> 01:17:02,187 Speaker 15: I haven't piney And firstly, apologies for the voice that 1539 01:17:02,707 --> 01:17:05,787 Speaker 15: I think the hotel air conditioner has got hold of 1540 01:17:05,867 --> 01:17:11,027 Speaker 15: it started playing games with it. But maybe Yeah, it's 1541 01:17:11,067 --> 01:17:16,027 Speaker 15: a hard one to say because the I tipped out 1542 01:17:16,027 --> 01:17:18,547 Speaker 15: cloths before. I'm not going to change that. But the 1543 01:17:18,667 --> 01:17:21,627 Speaker 15: top guys have performed so well, apart from Danil Medvedev, 1544 01:17:21,627 --> 01:17:25,747 Speaker 15: who's the guy to go. But yeah, Novak looks okay 1545 01:17:25,907 --> 01:17:28,067 Speaker 15: last night, but physically he was affected by a bit 1546 01:17:28,107 --> 01:17:31,107 Speaker 15: of look like a bit of pollen or something flying 1547 01:17:31,147 --> 01:17:34,227 Speaker 15: around the air, so he didn't looked completely physical comfortable, 1548 01:17:34,267 --> 01:17:37,827 Speaker 15: physically comfortable, but he can look all right. But yeah, 1549 01:17:37,907 --> 01:17:40,307 Speaker 15: that the men's draw where they before the third round 1550 01:17:40,307 --> 01:17:43,067 Speaker 15: they was fifteen at the thirty two seeds. The top guys, 1551 01:17:43,107 --> 01:17:45,307 Speaker 15: the ones that are meant to come here and contend 1552 01:17:45,347 --> 01:17:47,347 Speaker 15: at the end of next week, have looked pretty. 1553 01:17:47,147 --> 01:17:50,747 Speaker 3: Good as far as the Australians are concerned. Alex de 1554 01:17:50,867 --> 01:17:53,547 Speaker 3: Mineure still there isn't his third round action this afternoon 1555 01:17:53,947 --> 01:17:59,147 Speaker 3: against the Argentinian Francisco Karen Dolo. He should be okay, there, shouldn't. 1556 01:17:59,147 --> 01:18:00,227 Speaker 3: He isn't Demonue eighth. 1557 01:18:00,107 --> 01:18:02,627 Speaker 15: Seed is that right, should be and he's acting like 1558 01:18:02,707 --> 01:18:07,067 Speaker 15: it as well. Sometimes sometimes Demon gets into little battles 1559 01:18:07,187 --> 01:18:08,227 Speaker 15: out here in the first. 1560 01:18:08,067 --> 01:18:10,147 Speaker 11: Week of an opener, takes the juice out of the tank. 1561 01:18:10,187 --> 01:18:13,347 Speaker 15: But his first two matches have been fantastic, so yeah, 1562 01:18:13,867 --> 01:18:16,147 Speaker 15: I do think that there's a pretty good opponent for 1563 01:18:16,267 --> 01:18:18,907 Speaker 15: him fingers crossed to get through. But you never know. 1564 01:18:19,067 --> 01:18:22,747 Speaker 15: With the men's tour that in particular, and the women's 1565 01:18:22,787 --> 01:18:24,667 Speaker 15: too are showing it as well. All of a sudden 1566 01:18:24,707 --> 01:18:26,907 Speaker 15: it turns into a battle that you're not expecting. And 1567 01:18:27,227 --> 01:18:31,227 Speaker 15: that's happened a few times this week with the guys 1568 01:18:31,747 --> 01:18:36,427 Speaker 15: outside that four that we mentioned in sin al KaAZ 1569 01:18:37,307 --> 01:18:41,067 Speaker 15: Zverev and Djokovic, the ones outside that can get into 1570 01:18:41,147 --> 01:18:43,907 Speaker 15: little scraps that I don't need to, so hopefully Demon 1571 01:18:43,947 --> 01:18:46,427 Speaker 15: can avoid that fate. But I will say that Demon 1572 01:18:46,507 --> 01:18:48,827 Speaker 15: in his first two matches has looked as good as 1573 01:18:48,987 --> 01:18:51,907 Speaker 15: I've seen him full stop. Ever, in Australian Open. 1574 01:18:52,307 --> 01:18:56,867 Speaker 3: We lost at Kriosphile early on. No great surprise there, No, 1575 01:18:58,427 --> 01:18:59,507 Speaker 3: he just didn't have the base. 1576 01:18:59,827 --> 01:19:03,587 Speaker 15: So then he picks up a little neagle his stomach. 1577 01:19:03,667 --> 01:19:06,227 Speaker 15: He did have a stomach strain, which unfortunately saw Naimi 1578 01:19:06,427 --> 01:19:10,867 Speaker 15: Saka yesterday retire, so she can't quite get a body right. 1579 01:19:10,907 --> 01:19:13,467 Speaker 15: But yeah, Nick Nick just didn't have the miles and 1580 01:19:13,507 --> 01:19:15,627 Speaker 15: the legs, and he played a guy who played a 1581 01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:17,987 Speaker 15: stack of matches last year and Jacob Turnley and he 1582 01:19:18,107 --> 01:19:21,707 Speaker 15: rocked up and was rock solid and Nick couldn't quite 1583 01:19:21,947 --> 01:19:25,867 Speaker 15: find away with his immense talent. So hopefully he kind 1584 01:19:25,907 --> 01:19:29,267 Speaker 15: of gets ready for I think the grass court seasons 1585 01:19:29,267 --> 01:19:30,747 Speaker 15: he's seeing in the middle of the year. Might play 1586 01:19:30,747 --> 01:19:33,107 Speaker 15: some hard course stuff over in the States, But yeah, 1587 01:19:33,147 --> 01:19:35,427 Speaker 15: at the moment, he's not quite with it in terms 1588 01:19:35,467 --> 01:19:38,787 Speaker 15: of being at the level of base fitness that the tour. 1589 01:19:38,827 --> 01:19:43,787 Speaker 3: Tour us of you and the women's singles Coco golfer 1590 01:19:43,867 --> 01:19:46,307 Speaker 3: in a Sebalinka safely through to the fourth round, and 1591 01:19:46,387 --> 01:19:48,267 Speaker 3: the women's draw neither has dropped a seat. I think 1592 01:19:48,307 --> 01:19:51,227 Speaker 3: they're on target for a semi final meeting. If it 1593 01:19:51,427 --> 01:19:54,747 Speaker 3: was golf against Sebolenka GoF the third seed Sebleinka, double 1594 01:19:54,787 --> 01:19:57,667 Speaker 3: defending champion, top seed, would Coco Goff be a pretty 1595 01:19:57,707 --> 01:19:58,427 Speaker 3: good shout. 1596 01:19:58,907 --> 01:20:02,267 Speaker 15: Yep, Yeah, I'd probably on what I've seen, put it 1597 01:20:02,467 --> 01:20:06,187 Speaker 15: just in front of that one Seblenka. Yeah, she got 1598 01:20:06,187 --> 01:20:08,227 Speaker 15: to and show it, says yesterday. I get Clara Tolson, 1599 01:20:08,307 --> 01:20:12,547 Speaker 15: but she wasn't dominant, like she had some issues and 1600 01:20:13,267 --> 01:20:15,427 Speaker 15: played a player that can hit the ball really hard. 1601 01:20:15,507 --> 01:20:20,027 Speaker 15: So yeah, I don't think she looks completely in tune, 1602 01:20:20,587 --> 01:20:23,147 Speaker 15: and we're only judging that on the standards she set 1603 01:20:23,147 --> 01:20:24,947 Speaker 15: herself in the last couple of years, which has been 1604 01:20:25,427 --> 01:20:29,427 Speaker 15: out and it spectacular. So yeah, she's close, but I 1605 01:20:29,467 --> 01:20:31,627 Speaker 15: would say Cocoa Golf has just danced her so far. 1606 01:20:31,787 --> 01:20:33,027 Speaker 15: She's looking pretty good. 1607 01:20:32,947 --> 01:20:35,747 Speaker 3: Coco And just to finish, there's been a bit of 1608 01:20:35,867 --> 01:20:40,467 Speaker 3: chat about crowd behavior, decorum, or perhaps lack of. Some 1609 01:20:40,547 --> 01:20:42,147 Speaker 3: of the players seem to like it and play out 1610 01:20:42,187 --> 01:20:44,307 Speaker 3: to it. Others are getting a little bit annoyed. What's 1611 01:20:44,347 --> 01:20:46,107 Speaker 3: the overall view over there? 1612 01:20:46,667 --> 01:20:49,427 Speaker 15: Yeah, Daniel Collins who plays later tonight and gets Madison 1613 01:20:49,507 --> 01:20:51,427 Speaker 15: Keith in the semi file on Rod Laver Arena, so 1614 01:20:51,427 --> 01:20:53,827 Speaker 15: I think she'll be okay with that. Crowd is gaucus, 1615 01:20:54,107 --> 01:20:56,867 Speaker 15: but because they pay big money to get in Rod 1616 01:20:56,987 --> 01:20:58,827 Speaker 15: Labor and they seem to behave themselves a bit more 1617 01:20:58,907 --> 01:21:05,027 Speaker 15: than say Key Arena or Caught three. But yeah, it's okay. Yeah, 1618 01:21:05,147 --> 01:21:07,107 Speaker 15: it's fine when they play an see, everyone gets a 1619 01:21:07,107 --> 01:21:10,667 Speaker 15: little jumpy obviously. Alex Vurkic he played a long match 1620 01:21:10,747 --> 01:21:13,227 Speaker 15: last night against Jack Draper. He had the support of 1621 01:21:13,267 --> 01:21:17,307 Speaker 15: the crowd and Jack was up against it. But it's 1622 01:21:17,387 --> 01:21:20,747 Speaker 15: pretty crowd behavior basically. It's yeah, that's what it is, 1623 01:21:20,827 --> 01:21:23,867 Speaker 15: and I don't think any of the players have a 1624 01:21:23,947 --> 01:21:26,387 Speaker 15: massive problem with it, because I think they're just thankful 1625 01:21:26,427 --> 01:21:30,067 Speaker 15: to planes. It's one of such passionate fans. But some 1626 01:21:30,267 --> 01:21:33,467 Speaker 15: reacted in certain ways, like Jack Draper walked off court 1627 01:21:33,507 --> 01:21:35,627 Speaker 15: and really enjoyed it last night despite just coppying it 1628 01:21:35,667 --> 01:21:37,947 Speaker 15: through the crowd. But as Daniel Collins was giving it 1629 01:21:38,027 --> 01:21:39,787 Speaker 15: back and saying, well, you're paying for my holiday. So 1630 01:21:40,747 --> 01:21:41,867 Speaker 15: there's different ways to copy. 1631 01:21:43,467 --> 01:21:46,387 Speaker 3: Another interesting week ahead, a very interesting week. Get that 1632 01:21:46,547 --> 01:21:49,227 Speaker 3: voice rested. A couple of throat lozenges. Adam, thanks as 1633 01:21:49,227 --> 01:21:51,707 Speaker 3: always for joining us though on ZB this afternoon. 1634 01:21:52,227 --> 01:21:53,187 Speaker 15: Thanks Mane have ay good one. 1635 01:21:53,427 --> 01:21:55,187 Speaker 3: You have a good one too, Adam Peacock, A slightly 1636 01:21:55,267 --> 01:21:59,307 Speaker 3: croaky Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent, fully invested in the 1637 01:21:59,707 --> 01:22:02,867 Speaker 3: coverage of the Australian Open and well the loser of 1638 01:22:02,987 --> 01:22:05,747 Speaker 3: one voice by the sounds of it. Hopefully it'll come 1639 01:22:05,867 --> 01:22:10,707 Speaker 3: right quick. They're back out on court at rod Laver 1640 01:22:10,907 --> 01:22:13,867 Speaker 3: or on rod Laver Arena, also Margaret Court Arena around 1641 01:22:13,867 --> 01:22:15,547 Speaker 3: the surrounding courts as well. We'll bring you up to 1642 01:22:15,627 --> 01:22:18,427 Speaker 3: date with scores. One of the most interesting games is 1643 01:22:18,507 --> 01:22:22,227 Speaker 3: on rod Laver right now. IGIs Fiontech the second seed 1644 01:22:22,267 --> 01:22:27,067 Speaker 3: and the women's singles up against Emma Ruddakanu currently Siontic 1645 01:22:27,107 --> 01:22:29,067 Speaker 3: ahead by a game to Love on Serve. So very 1646 01:22:29,187 --> 01:22:31,387 Speaker 3: early in the piece in that one seven to two 1647 01:22:31,507 --> 01:22:31,947 Speaker 3: U s talk. 1648 01:22:31,827 --> 01:22:37,347 Speaker 2: Sippy getting you closer to the action at sale GP. 1649 01:22:37,627 --> 01:22:40,827 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pine live from Win you'd points 1650 01:22:40,827 --> 01:22:42,787 Speaker 1: and US talks EDB four. 1651 01:22:42,667 --> 01:22:45,267 Speaker 3: Away from two on us talks EDB we cand Sport 1652 01:22:45,307 --> 01:22:47,867 Speaker 3: continues after two o'clock and we put our focus well 1653 01:22:47,907 --> 01:22:51,147 Speaker 3: and truly back on to sale GP Auckland with which 1654 01:22:51,187 --> 01:22:53,827 Speaker 3: is now just a couple of hours away from getting 1655 01:22:54,027 --> 01:22:56,787 Speaker 3: underway on White to Harbor. The gates are open here, 1656 01:22:56,827 --> 01:22:59,707 Speaker 3: the crowds are starting to flood in and the action 1657 01:22:59,907 --> 01:23:03,347 Speaker 3: will be hot as anything on the water. After two 1658 01:23:03,387 --> 01:23:07,187 Speaker 3: o'clock we'll get inside the Great British camp with their 1659 01:23:07,267 --> 01:23:12,027 Speaker 3: driver Dylan Fletcher, also American driver Taylor Canfield and the 1660 01:23:12,187 --> 01:23:16,067 Speaker 3: owner of the new Brazilian SALGP team, Allan Adler. 1661 01:23:18,427 --> 01:23:22,227 Speaker 1: Eleveneams from across the globe converge on the way to Mataba. 1662 01:23:22,507 --> 01:23:25,307 Speaker 1: Sale GP returns to New Zealand and we've got all 1663 01:23:25,307 --> 01:23:28,707 Speaker 1: the big names in sailing straight sprint of its weekend 1664 01:23:28,787 --> 01:23:32,307 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pine live from the sale GP village 1665 01:23:32,387 --> 01:23:36,307 Speaker 1: and win your point on your home of Sport news DOGSB. 1666 01:23:37,427 --> 01:23:40,427 Speaker 3: Yes, excitement is building here at Winyard Point. We're in 1667 01:23:40,467 --> 01:23:42,987 Speaker 3: the media center for sale GP Auckland will less than 1668 01:23:43,067 --> 01:23:47,547 Speaker 3: two hours away from racing getting underway. As these eleven 1669 01:23:47,627 --> 01:23:51,227 Speaker 3: boats hit the water would have been twelve. Unfortunately the 1670 01:23:51,347 --> 01:23:55,267 Speaker 3: French syndicate unable to participate this weekend. They will, all 1671 01:23:55,347 --> 01:23:58,347 Speaker 3: things being equalll be back for the next leg of 1672 01:23:58,427 --> 01:24:01,987 Speaker 3: SALEGP which is in Sydney. They will be awarded some 1673 01:24:02,107 --> 01:24:05,107 Speaker 3: points for this regatta even though they will not sail 1674 01:24:05,187 --> 01:24:08,107 Speaker 3: in it. It's a way of keeping things equal for 1675 01:24:08,187 --> 01:24:12,307 Speaker 3: those who beyond their control have not been able to sail, 1676 01:24:12,427 --> 01:24:14,787 Speaker 3: and that's the situation with the French team this afternoon. 1677 01:24:14,867 --> 01:24:17,227 Speaker 3: But the other eleven are all set to go. They 1678 01:24:17,267 --> 01:24:21,107 Speaker 3: will race three fleet races today starting at four o'clock 1679 01:24:21,547 --> 01:24:25,067 Speaker 3: inside a broadcast window of ninety minutes. And the way 1680 01:24:25,107 --> 01:24:26,987 Speaker 3: it works, if you're just joining us in a new 1681 01:24:27,067 --> 01:24:30,467 Speaker 3: to Sail GP, you get points for where you finish 1682 01:24:30,507 --> 01:24:32,187 Speaker 3: and each of the races, all eleven boats out there 1683 01:24:32,187 --> 01:24:35,227 Speaker 3: together and depending on where you finish you get from 1684 01:24:35,227 --> 01:24:38,067 Speaker 3: eleven points down to one. Top team gets eleven, second 1685 01:24:38,107 --> 01:24:40,827 Speaker 3: team gets ten, etc. Etc. And at the end of 1686 01:24:40,867 --> 01:24:43,347 Speaker 3: five fleet races, three today, two tomorrow, the top three 1687 01:24:43,427 --> 01:24:46,787 Speaker 3: go into way winner takes all final, just those three 1688 01:24:46,827 --> 01:24:50,347 Speaker 3: boats on the race course, which will be extremely different 1689 01:24:50,427 --> 01:24:53,747 Speaker 3: from eleven boats out there. Already this afternoon we've heard 1690 01:24:53,787 --> 01:24:55,667 Speaker 3: from Peter Berling, great to get the chance to catch 1691 01:24:55,707 --> 01:24:59,707 Speaker 3: up with the black foils driver Jason Waterhouse out of 1692 01:24:59,747 --> 01:25:03,467 Speaker 3: the Australian team, the flight controller, and both talked about 1693 01:25:03,547 --> 01:25:06,267 Speaker 3: the new T foils which have been the big tour 1694 01:25:06,347 --> 01:25:08,907 Speaker 3: looking point this week in terms of the change to 1695 01:25:09,187 --> 01:25:12,707 Speaker 3: previous sal GP seasons and in fact the first end 1696 01:25:12,707 --> 01:25:17,507 Speaker 3: of season five today is the first time that we 1697 01:25:17,627 --> 01:25:20,427 Speaker 3: are going to see the tfoils in action, the titanium 1698 01:25:21,227 --> 01:25:24,427 Speaker 3: foils which basically make the boats go faster. But there's 1699 01:25:24,507 --> 01:25:28,587 Speaker 3: quite a bit for the flight controllers, the drivers, the strategists, 1700 01:25:28,667 --> 01:25:31,867 Speaker 3: everybody involved with the sailing of these boats to get 1701 01:25:31,907 --> 01:25:35,747 Speaker 3: to terms with to sell the tfoils or to make 1702 01:25:35,787 --> 01:25:39,067 Speaker 3: the best use of the T foils. They're all learning together. 1703 01:25:39,387 --> 01:25:43,427 Speaker 3: I think it's the message that we're getting. So this 1704 01:25:43,587 --> 01:25:45,427 Speaker 3: hour we're going to get the thoughts of a couple 1705 01:25:45,467 --> 01:25:48,907 Speaker 3: of the drivers. Taylor Canfield out of the United States 1706 01:25:49,987 --> 01:25:52,507 Speaker 3: sale GP team is going to pop in. He dropped 1707 01:25:52,547 --> 01:25:55,907 Speaker 3: into the team halfway through season four when Jimmy Spittel 1708 01:25:56,067 --> 01:25:59,747 Speaker 3: departed to set up the Italian sal GP syndicate. So 1709 01:26:00,067 --> 01:26:01,707 Speaker 3: it was a bit of a baptism of fire in 1710 01:26:01,787 --> 01:26:05,947 Speaker 3: many ways for Taylor Canfield last season. But he's got 1711 01:26:05,987 --> 01:26:08,827 Speaker 3: the rain from the start, did really well and the 1712 01:26:09,227 --> 01:26:12,227 Speaker 3: opening events of season five, so Taylor Canfield going to 1713 01:26:12,267 --> 01:26:16,227 Speaker 3: pop in for a chat as is. Dylan Fletcher has 1714 01:26:16,267 --> 01:26:19,867 Speaker 3: been a change at the helm of the Great Britain 1715 01:26:19,947 --> 01:26:23,987 Speaker 3: team as well, with Giles Scott departing. He is now 1716 01:26:24,267 --> 01:26:27,467 Speaker 3: driver for the Canadian team. So Dylan Fletcher is the 1717 01:26:27,547 --> 01:26:31,067 Speaker 3: man into his shoes if you like. He has sailed 1718 01:26:31,147 --> 01:26:35,507 Speaker 3: sal GP before, has worked extensively alongside Cyndic Good owner 1719 01:26:35,667 --> 01:26:40,867 Speaker 3: Sir Ben Ainsley, so it's nothing new to Dylan Fletcher, 1720 01:26:41,147 --> 01:26:43,707 Speaker 3: but something that I guess is new to him this 1721 01:26:43,867 --> 01:26:47,387 Speaker 3: season and straight away up onto the t foils he'll 1722 01:26:47,467 --> 01:26:49,347 Speaker 3: have to go. So Dylan Fletcher this hour as well, 1723 01:26:49,587 --> 01:26:51,307 Speaker 3: just to look ahead to tomorrow and incident there were 1724 01:26:51,307 --> 01:26:54,227 Speaker 3: we'll broadcast live again by which stage we will have 1725 01:26:55,387 --> 01:26:58,867 Speaker 3: another we'll have the racing from today to review. But 1726 01:26:58,907 --> 01:27:02,267 Speaker 3: Sir Russell Cook's going to join us just after midday tomorrow. 1727 01:27:02,427 --> 01:27:06,267 Speaker 3: Of course, is the mastermind behind all of this. Key 1728 01:27:06,547 --> 01:27:09,067 Speaker 3: to understand from Sir Russell what his vision is for 1729 01:27:09,707 --> 01:27:13,267 Speaker 3: these events moving forward. We have fourteen events now with 1730 01:27:13,467 --> 01:27:18,627 Speaker 3: twelve boats. He's talked already about a split fleet because 1731 01:27:19,147 --> 01:27:21,587 Speaker 3: twelve boats on the same race course can be problematic, 1732 01:27:21,947 --> 01:27:24,187 Speaker 3: so there's talk about a split fleet which has been 1733 01:27:24,267 --> 01:27:26,827 Speaker 3: trialed this week. Also tomorrow on the show Live, Mackay 1734 01:27:27,107 --> 01:27:29,027 Speaker 3: going to join us. Out of the Black Foils, we'll 1735 01:27:29,067 --> 01:27:31,907 Speaker 3: talk to Jimmy Spittle, the aforementioned who is now in 1736 01:27:32,027 --> 01:27:35,987 Speaker 3: charge of the Italian syndicate. Hannah Mills, the most decorated 1737 01:27:36,387 --> 01:27:40,747 Speaker 3: female Olympic sailor of all time. She is the strategist 1738 01:27:40,867 --> 01:27:43,267 Speaker 3: for the Great Britain team. She's on the show tomorrow. 1739 01:27:43,507 --> 01:27:46,227 Speaker 3: And Andy Maloney. This is a really really interesting story. 1740 01:27:46,587 --> 01:27:50,427 Speaker 3: Andy Maloney, who has been with the Black Foils since 1741 01:27:50,467 --> 01:27:53,307 Speaker 3: the start pretty much and his very close friend and 1742 01:27:53,387 --> 01:27:57,267 Speaker 3: ally of Peter Berling and Blair Chuke, has now joined 1743 01:27:57,347 --> 01:28:01,747 Speaker 3: up with the new Brazilian sal GP syndicate. They are 1744 01:28:01,827 --> 01:28:05,227 Speaker 3: a startup syndicate and he is now with them. So 1745 01:28:05,827 --> 01:28:09,187 Speaker 3: how difficult was that decision to make and how did 1746 01:28:09,187 --> 01:28:11,667 Speaker 3: he go about making it? But first up this hour 1747 01:28:11,747 --> 01:28:13,947 Speaker 3: we are going to shortly be joined by speaking of 1748 01:28:14,027 --> 01:28:18,667 Speaker 3: the Brazilian sale GP syndicate, the owner and CEO of 1749 01:28:18,787 --> 01:28:23,467 Speaker 3: the brazil sal GP team, Alan Adler, himself an Olympian, 1750 01:28:23,787 --> 01:28:27,627 Speaker 3: three time Olympium, former Star Class World champion and a 1751 01:28:27,707 --> 01:28:33,347 Speaker 3: man involved in entertainment and promoting big events including the 1752 01:28:33,547 --> 01:28:37,827 Speaker 3: Salpalo Formula one Grand Prix. Alan Adler is on his 1753 01:28:37,987 --> 01:28:39,947 Speaker 3: way to us. Just while we're waiting for his arrival, 1754 01:28:40,267 --> 01:28:42,947 Speaker 3: I can update you on some live sport we heard 1755 01:28:43,587 --> 01:28:47,907 Speaker 3: during the news of the Super Smash women's game in 1756 01:28:48,027 --> 01:28:53,627 Speaker 3: Otago in Dunedin, where it's basically been a continuation of 1757 01:28:53,667 --> 01:28:58,107 Speaker 3: Otago's excellent form. A seven wicket win over the defending 1758 01:28:58,227 --> 01:29:01,507 Speaker 3: champion Wellington Blaze. The Blades restricted to one hundred and 1759 01:29:01,547 --> 01:29:04,627 Speaker 3: twenty for five and they're twenty overs and Otago getting 1760 01:29:04,667 --> 01:29:08,107 Speaker 3: there after a teenover is one hundred and twenty three 1761 01:29:08,227 --> 01:29:13,227 Speaker 3: for three. So very very comprehensive really from Otago, who 1762 01:29:13,627 --> 01:29:15,747 Speaker 3: increased their lead at the top of the table. They 1763 01:29:15,787 --> 01:29:18,547 Speaker 3: have played more games than everybody else, but twenty four 1764 01:29:18,587 --> 01:29:22,707 Speaker 3: points from their eight games. Now for the Otago side, 1765 01:29:22,867 --> 01:29:25,787 Speaker 3: who look every inch the team to beat as far 1766 01:29:25,827 --> 01:29:28,547 Speaker 3: as the women's competition is concerned. Now the men are 1767 01:29:28,547 --> 01:29:31,787 Speaker 3: about to get underway. So the supersmatch is always of 1768 01:29:31,867 --> 01:29:34,667 Speaker 3: course the men and the women back to back, and 1769 01:29:35,627 --> 01:29:39,587 Speaker 3: so the Otago and Wellington men's sides are about to 1770 01:29:39,667 --> 01:29:42,347 Speaker 3: do battle. News Talk s head beat. It is twelve 1771 01:29:42,547 --> 01:29:46,187 Speaker 3: past two. There are two new teams in sal GP 1772 01:29:46,347 --> 01:29:50,627 Speaker 3: this season, Italy with legendary sailor Jimmy Spitzel in charge 1773 01:29:50,707 --> 01:29:54,787 Speaker 3: there and Mubadala Brazil, the first South American entry into 1774 01:29:54,827 --> 01:29:58,867 Speaker 3: sal GP. Owner and CEO is three time Olympian, former 1775 01:29:58,907 --> 01:30:02,667 Speaker 3: Star Class world champion sailor Alan Adler, also owner of 1776 01:30:02,827 --> 01:30:06,907 Speaker 3: entertainment firm IMM CEO of Brazil Motorsports, the prom of 1777 01:30:06,987 --> 01:30:09,867 Speaker 3: the Cell Palo Formula one Grand Prix. Ellen lovely to 1778 01:30:09,907 --> 01:30:11,467 Speaker 3: say you, thank you for stopping and now it's a 1779 01:30:11,507 --> 01:30:14,947 Speaker 3: busy time for you. What was your motivation for entering 1780 01:30:14,987 --> 01:30:16,227 Speaker 3: the world of Cell JP. 1781 01:30:17,107 --> 01:30:20,347 Speaker 17: Well, first time I saw the event, I know it 1782 01:30:20,587 --> 01:30:23,227 Speaker 17: was in Sentropez. I think last year I was really 1783 01:30:23,267 --> 01:30:27,387 Speaker 17: impressed with what I saw with the value proposition of CELGP. 1784 01:30:27,947 --> 01:30:30,987 Speaker 17: You know, I think have all the elements to succeed. 1785 01:30:31,107 --> 01:30:36,827 Speaker 17: It's a close, racing, drama, adrenaline, it's sustainable, you know, 1786 01:30:37,787 --> 01:30:43,027 Speaker 17: and I think it's it's really there is the aim 1787 01:30:43,227 --> 01:30:47,667 Speaker 17: to involve and more and more females into the sports. Look, 1788 01:30:47,947 --> 01:30:50,467 Speaker 17: I really love and I think that it's made also 1789 01:30:50,547 --> 01:30:53,947 Speaker 17: for the broadcasting, which is very important to engage the audience. 1790 01:30:54,267 --> 01:30:55,267 Speaker 3: So all the elements. 1791 01:30:55,307 --> 01:30:57,667 Speaker 17: And now I'm a guy that used to work with 1792 01:30:58,027 --> 01:31:01,827 Speaker 17: many sports franchies and I saw the CLGP, I. 1793 01:31:01,827 --> 01:31:05,267 Speaker 3: Say, look, this is really cool. Let's get involved. So 1794 01:31:05,347 --> 01:31:07,667 Speaker 3: once you made the decision and to get involved, how 1795 01:31:07,747 --> 01:31:09,787 Speaker 3: did you say it about putting a teen together? 1796 01:31:10,107 --> 01:31:13,867 Speaker 17: Yeah, so I think the first thing was really too 1797 01:31:14,427 --> 01:31:17,427 Speaker 17: and the key think was about Martin. You know, I 1798 01:31:17,507 --> 01:31:21,347 Speaker 17: think this was key first because not she's a female, 1799 01:31:21,467 --> 01:31:24,507 Speaker 17: because she's the best sailor nowadays in Brazil. 1800 01:31:25,107 --> 01:31:26,787 Speaker 3: So Martin was an obvious choice. 1801 01:31:27,227 --> 01:31:30,627 Speaker 17: And when you put together a proposal, a commercial proposal 1802 01:31:30,907 --> 01:31:32,987 Speaker 17: where you're going to have the first team led by 1803 01:31:33,027 --> 01:31:35,867 Speaker 17: a woman, you know, competing face to face to the 1804 01:31:35,907 --> 01:31:38,427 Speaker 17: best athletes in the world, I think this is very 1805 01:31:39,267 --> 01:31:42,307 Speaker 17: it's very attractive, you know. And when we discussed that 1806 01:31:42,547 --> 01:31:46,067 Speaker 17: with our investors and also with our sponsors like Mubadla. 1807 01:31:46,827 --> 01:31:49,027 Speaker 17: I mean they bought it right away. They said, wow, 1808 01:31:49,107 --> 01:31:50,827 Speaker 17: this is amazing, let's do it. And we have a 1809 01:31:50,947 --> 01:31:54,907 Speaker 17: long term relation with them and many other sports. So 1810 01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:57,307 Speaker 17: I'm so happy to be here, you know, in this 1811 01:31:57,467 --> 01:31:58,947 Speaker 17: place is amazing place, Aukland. 1812 01:31:58,987 --> 01:31:59,827 Speaker 7: This is so beautiful. 1813 01:31:59,947 --> 01:32:01,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, now we were delighted to have you here. Just 1814 01:32:02,027 --> 01:32:06,107 Speaker 3: on Martain Grayle, It's a wonderful story, sajipays. First EVA 1815 01:32:06,427 --> 01:32:09,587 Speaker 3: female driver. Do you think she falls under a bigger 1816 01:32:09,627 --> 01:32:12,867 Speaker 3: microscope because of that then the than the male drivers. 1817 01:32:13,747 --> 01:32:17,227 Speaker 17: Look, I think it's natural. It's natural, you know, because 1818 01:32:17,307 --> 01:32:20,187 Speaker 17: it's unique. I don't you don't see in any other sports. 1819 01:32:20,387 --> 01:32:23,787 Speaker 17: Tell me NBA and fl IF we'll see a female 1820 01:32:24,147 --> 01:32:27,587 Speaker 17: competing the same level. So I think, yeah, that's natural. 1821 01:32:27,987 --> 01:32:31,107 Speaker 3: What were your emotions as you as you watch your 1822 01:32:31,187 --> 01:32:34,987 Speaker 3: team line up for the first time in Dubai in November. 1823 01:32:35,627 --> 01:32:38,947 Speaker 17: Of course I was quite tense. Yes, I am a 1824 01:32:39,107 --> 01:32:41,747 Speaker 17: very I have a very competitive nature myself. 1825 01:32:42,507 --> 01:32:43,227 Speaker 3: I love sports. 1826 01:32:43,267 --> 01:32:45,107 Speaker 17: I love to compete and I want to have a 1827 01:32:45,227 --> 01:32:49,187 Speaker 17: competitive team, you know, I really want Brazil the team 1828 01:32:49,347 --> 01:32:54,467 Speaker 17: to succeed. So I was really it was all about expectations. 1829 01:32:54,507 --> 01:32:55,427 Speaker 3: You know, what will happen. 1830 01:32:55,867 --> 01:32:58,187 Speaker 17: We're going to be less a lot, so we're gonna 1831 01:32:58,187 --> 01:32:59,627 Speaker 17: be second less, which happened. 1832 01:33:00,227 --> 01:33:01,947 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, we 1833 01:33:02,067 --> 01:33:02,467 Speaker 3: did well. 1834 01:33:02,667 --> 01:33:05,867 Speaker 17: I think for the first race, not much training. You know, 1835 01:33:05,987 --> 01:33:09,387 Speaker 17: we be the Italian team which was also like us 1836 01:33:09,707 --> 01:33:13,827 Speaker 17: at their first event. And I can be wrong, but 1837 01:33:14,027 --> 01:33:15,867 Speaker 17: my guess is that we're going to have a great 1838 01:33:15,947 --> 01:33:17,227 Speaker 17: surprise here in Auckland. 1839 01:33:17,507 --> 01:33:20,747 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. It won't be a surprise because 1840 01:33:20,747 --> 01:33:24,067 Speaker 3: all reports have the team sailing very well out here 1841 01:33:24,587 --> 01:33:27,667 Speaker 3: and training across the wake. How have you managed to 1842 01:33:28,467 --> 01:33:31,387 Speaker 3: get such quick improvements? I want to talk some more 1843 01:33:31,387 --> 01:33:34,627 Speaker 3: about Dubai, but let's talk about the week past. You 1844 01:33:34,747 --> 01:33:36,867 Speaker 3: have you managed to improve so quickly? 1845 01:33:37,267 --> 01:33:40,387 Speaker 17: That's a good question, and I think we learn a 1846 01:33:40,507 --> 01:33:43,707 Speaker 17: lot from Dubai. We learn a lot from the data 1847 01:33:43,907 --> 01:33:47,067 Speaker 17: we receive. We have an amazing team now with a 1848 01:33:47,107 --> 01:33:51,707 Speaker 17: lot of experienced sailors, and also our sports director is 1849 01:33:51,787 --> 01:33:54,507 Speaker 17: an amazing guy that did I don't know how many 1850 01:33:54,507 --> 01:33:58,427 Speaker 17: Americas cup, but he's a very good in analyzing data. 1851 01:33:59,147 --> 01:34:01,787 Speaker 17: So I think we improve a lot on that from 1852 01:34:01,827 --> 01:34:05,867 Speaker 17: our mistakes, not much training, but the guys are good. 1853 01:34:05,907 --> 01:34:07,387 Speaker 17: You know, we have a great team, and I think 1854 01:34:07,387 --> 01:34:10,787 Speaker 17: it's all about human resources. So I was quite impressed 1855 01:34:10,827 --> 01:34:13,387 Speaker 17: by the way yesterday with our results. 1856 01:34:14,147 --> 01:34:17,147 Speaker 3: So just back to Dubai. You're right, eleventh and tenth 1857 01:34:17,227 --> 01:34:20,587 Speaker 3: and the first three races, race three though Martine overtook 1858 01:34:20,667 --> 01:34:23,427 Speaker 3: five teams to go from last up to sixth, and 1859 01:34:23,547 --> 01:34:26,747 Speaker 3: the third fleet race, how or how exciting, But how 1860 01:34:26,867 --> 01:34:29,187 Speaker 3: encouraging was that for you? No, I think it was. 1861 01:34:29,267 --> 01:34:31,347 Speaker 17: Encouraging for me and for the whole team, you know, 1862 01:34:31,947 --> 01:34:34,427 Speaker 17: because it raised our motivation. 1863 01:34:34,747 --> 01:34:36,267 Speaker 18: And that day was the first day. 1864 01:34:36,907 --> 01:34:39,987 Speaker 17: But again you know, it's it's those boats are tough 1865 01:34:40,067 --> 01:34:43,667 Speaker 17: to sail in those conditions, you know, so we really learned. 1866 01:34:43,907 --> 01:34:47,227 Speaker 17: And for me, here will be another And how can 1867 01:34:47,307 --> 01:34:50,987 Speaker 17: I say when it will be again a new event, 1868 01:34:51,147 --> 01:34:54,227 Speaker 17: because we will say with much more wind. So for 1869 01:34:54,387 --> 01:34:57,187 Speaker 17: me again here would be it would be like the 1870 01:34:57,267 --> 01:35:00,227 Speaker 17: first day in Dubai, you know, because of course we 1871 01:35:00,347 --> 01:35:03,227 Speaker 17: did well training, but you know, training is one thing 1872 01:35:03,387 --> 01:35:04,947 Speaker 17: and competition is another thing. 1873 01:35:05,267 --> 01:35:07,747 Speaker 3: I saw some footage of watching the races in Dubai. 1874 01:35:07,867 --> 01:35:10,467 Speaker 3: You've probably sayen the same footage. You look, you look 1875 01:35:10,507 --> 01:35:13,867 Speaker 3: pretty calm, but what are the emotions going through, especially 1876 01:35:13,907 --> 01:35:17,307 Speaker 3: in an exciting race like Race three, when Martinez overtaking 1877 01:35:17,347 --> 01:35:20,147 Speaker 3: on the outside, What are the emotions like for you? Look, 1878 01:35:20,227 --> 01:35:22,627 Speaker 3: it's all about you know how it is. 1879 01:35:23,307 --> 01:35:27,947 Speaker 17: It's a little bit of tension with you know, expectations 1880 01:35:28,627 --> 01:35:30,107 Speaker 17: and at the end of the day, this was a 1881 01:35:30,147 --> 01:35:33,267 Speaker 17: good one and then you vibrate. I know, it's amazing. Yeah, 1882 01:35:33,387 --> 01:35:36,107 Speaker 17: you celebrate and all like a Brazilians, we'd like to celebrate. 1883 01:35:36,347 --> 01:35:37,827 Speaker 3: And you got a New Zealand to two. You've got 1884 01:35:37,867 --> 01:35:40,787 Speaker 3: Andy Maloney and the team. How did you How did 1885 01:35:40,827 --> 01:35:42,907 Speaker 3: the conversation go to get home across to your team? 1886 01:35:43,067 --> 01:35:46,427 Speaker 17: Yeah, this was not easy one to get Indy, you know, 1887 01:35:46,507 --> 01:35:50,547 Speaker 17: because Andy was I mean good good friends with all 1888 01:35:50,627 --> 01:35:53,187 Speaker 17: the team had been with them for a long time. 1889 01:35:53,707 --> 01:35:55,467 Speaker 17: It was it was not easy, you know, it was 1890 01:35:55,547 --> 01:35:58,627 Speaker 17: not an easy one. I was so happy to convince him, 1891 01:35:59,827 --> 01:36:02,907 Speaker 17: you know, to change, to start something new. I think 1892 01:36:02,987 --> 01:36:04,667 Speaker 17: everybody in his motivation. 1893 01:36:05,547 --> 01:36:06,307 Speaker 3: So it worked out. 1894 01:36:06,667 --> 01:36:09,987 Speaker 17: He's amazing, not only as a character but as a sailor. 1895 01:36:10,027 --> 01:36:12,027 Speaker 17: And we are so happy to have any on boards. 1896 01:36:12,227 --> 01:36:14,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm sure it must be about more than 1897 01:36:14,507 --> 01:36:17,387 Speaker 3: just money. It must be about a desire within a 1898 01:36:17,507 --> 01:36:21,227 Speaker 3: sailor to teach themselves, to challenge themselves. Is that how 1899 01:36:21,307 --> 01:36:22,067 Speaker 3: you sold it to him? 1900 01:36:22,187 --> 01:36:22,347 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1901 01:36:22,387 --> 01:36:25,427 Speaker 17: I fully, fully agree. He knew that it's not about 1902 01:36:25,467 --> 01:36:28,427 Speaker 17: the money only you need motivation. Otherwise you don't perform 1903 01:36:28,787 --> 01:36:30,747 Speaker 17: and you say why what I'm doing here every day? 1904 01:36:30,827 --> 01:36:32,627 Speaker 3: So you need that, you need the purpose. 1905 01:36:32,707 --> 01:36:35,707 Speaker 17: And I think Andy felt that he could really really 1906 01:36:35,787 --> 01:36:38,947 Speaker 17: be valuable for our team, you know, and which is amazing, 1907 01:36:38,987 --> 01:36:39,507 Speaker 17: and he has. 1908 01:36:39,467 --> 01:36:43,267 Speaker 3: Been very valuable. Ellen, What will success look like for 1909 01:36:43,387 --> 01:36:46,947 Speaker 3: you in season one for Brazil and Sole JP? What 1910 01:36:47,267 --> 01:36:50,427 Speaker 3: will you be satisfied with at the end of that 1911 01:36:50,867 --> 01:36:51,427 Speaker 3: of the season. 1912 01:36:51,547 --> 01:36:57,067 Speaker 17: Honestly, I would love to not finish last, because that's 1913 01:36:57,107 --> 01:36:59,387 Speaker 17: what happens with most of the teams when they start. 1914 01:37:00,267 --> 01:37:03,547 Speaker 17: So I think this will be easy to you know, 1915 01:37:03,747 --> 01:37:06,547 Speaker 17: to expect. I mean, not a big esque but if 1916 01:37:06,547 --> 01:37:09,987 Speaker 17: we want to go a little bit, you know, more aggressive, 1917 01:37:10,067 --> 01:37:14,107 Speaker 17: I would expect us to arrive in the top. Let's 1918 01:37:14,107 --> 01:37:16,227 Speaker 17: see eat That would be amazing. 1919 01:37:16,467 --> 01:37:19,547 Speaker 3: And we get to see Sale GP and Rio in 1920 01:37:19,707 --> 01:37:23,547 Speaker 3: may Guanabara Bay in front of the Rio skyline, Sugar 1921 01:37:23,587 --> 01:37:27,387 Speaker 3: Oaf Mountain. How much are you looking forward to that? Beautiful? 1922 01:37:28,707 --> 01:37:30,067 Speaker 3: We need to find a way to get the radio 1923 01:37:30,107 --> 01:37:33,507 Speaker 3: show there. In terms of beauty, we're going to win 1924 01:37:33,587 --> 01:37:38,427 Speaker 3: for sure. Love it. Ellen, Congratulations on everything you've done 1925 01:37:38,507 --> 01:37:40,827 Speaker 3: to get Brazil and to sale GP. All the best 1926 01:37:40,867 --> 01:37:43,907 Speaker 3: for a wonderful couple of days out here on Wamata Harva. 1927 01:37:44,187 --> 01:37:45,867 Speaker 3: Great to have you in town and thanks for joining us. 1928 01:37:45,987 --> 01:37:48,187 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Thank you, Ellen, Ellen Edler there, 1929 01:37:48,907 --> 01:37:51,427 Speaker 3: lovely to meet your mate, Ellen Edler, the owner of 1930 01:37:51,467 --> 01:37:54,467 Speaker 3: the Brazil sale GP team, who have the first ever 1931 01:37:54,587 --> 01:37:58,627 Speaker 3: female driver Martine Grail at the at the helm and 1932 01:37:58,707 --> 01:38:02,187 Speaker 3: what a job she's doing, absolutely amazing. We're going to 1933 01:38:02,227 --> 01:38:03,707 Speaker 3: take a break here on news Talks. He'd be back 1934 01:38:03,747 --> 01:38:05,467 Speaker 3: in a sec where we'll catch up with the driver 1935 01:38:05,587 --> 01:38:08,307 Speaker 3: of the Americans, Taylor Canfielder is with us on news Talks. 1936 01:38:08,307 --> 01:38:09,107 Speaker 3: Heb right after this. 1937 01:38:10,467 --> 01:38:13,987 Speaker 1: Fast faced sport with a splash play from Win Your 1938 01:38:14,107 --> 01:38:18,347 Speaker 1: Point at SALGB. It's Jason five on Weekend Sports with 1939 01:38:18,707 --> 01:38:22,187 Speaker 1: GJ gun Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder. 1940 01:38:22,307 --> 01:38:23,267 Speaker 2: News Talk ZIB. 1941 01:38:23,787 --> 01:38:26,707 Speaker 3: Two twenty four going to get you back inside a 1942 01:38:26,747 --> 01:38:29,467 Speaker 3: couple of the sole GP teams shortly Taylor Canfield from 1943 01:38:29,467 --> 01:38:32,107 Speaker 3: the United States team and Dylan Fletcher from Great Britain 1944 01:38:32,107 --> 01:38:33,707 Speaker 3: to come. But let's get you out on the water 1945 01:38:34,187 --> 01:38:39,267 Speaker 3: because there are hundreds of spectator boats getting lined up 1946 01:38:39,307 --> 01:38:43,147 Speaker 3: ready to watch the action from on the water, including Angus, 1947 01:38:43,227 --> 01:38:45,147 Speaker 3: who I spoke to yesterday on z B told me 1948 01:38:45,187 --> 01:38:46,787 Speaker 3: all about his plans to get out on the water. 1949 01:38:46,987 --> 01:38:48,307 Speaker 3: Did you make it out okay? Mate? 1950 01:38:49,027 --> 01:38:50,867 Speaker 19: Piney hey gun hoy mate. The officer still there to 1951 01:38:50,947 --> 01:38:52,787 Speaker 19: come join you too late, So we're now to go. 1952 01:38:53,227 --> 01:38:56,347 Speaker 3: Oh mae. I honestly, I honestly would love to. Unfortunately, 1953 01:38:56,387 --> 01:38:59,587 Speaker 3: I think the scheduling of a football matchup Mount Smart 1954 01:38:59,707 --> 01:39:02,147 Speaker 3: might be against us, but I'll be thinking of you. 1955 01:39:03,187 --> 01:39:04,907 Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it. Now it's all go here. 1956 01:39:04,947 --> 01:39:07,307 Speaker 19: So I'm pretty good so far, pretty your organized. Yeah, 1957 01:39:07,307 --> 01:39:09,867 Speaker 19: we found a pretty good I'm so sure. 1958 01:39:09,907 --> 01:39:11,787 Speaker 3: We're on the list end side of the course yea. 1959 01:39:11,827 --> 01:39:14,387 Speaker 19: And yeah there's a pretty good flow toill there. Everyone's 1960 01:39:14,387 --> 01:39:16,427 Speaker 19: being pretty good so fast, so yeah, no no complaints. 1961 01:39:16,827 --> 01:39:19,107 Speaker 3: So as you go out, are you sort of told 1962 01:39:19,307 --> 01:39:21,707 Speaker 3: in no uncertain terms where you can and can't go? 1963 01:39:22,827 --> 01:39:23,027 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1964 01:39:23,027 --> 01:39:25,987 Speaker 19: It essentially we're right pretty early we lifted about maybe 1965 01:39:26,387 --> 01:39:26,987 Speaker 19: just before one. 1966 01:39:27,187 --> 01:39:27,787 Speaker 7: We're on the course. 1967 01:39:27,827 --> 01:39:30,267 Speaker 19: By properting pass and straight away we're. 1968 01:39:30,147 --> 01:39:30,787 Speaker 4: Met to buy a course. 1969 01:39:30,827 --> 01:39:32,627 Speaker 19: Marshal looked at our flag and was like, yeah, pretty 1970 01:39:32,707 --> 01:39:34,587 Speaker 19: much go over here kind of thing, and gave us 1971 01:39:34,627 --> 01:39:36,147 Speaker 19: some guidance and then we just kind of found a 1972 01:39:36,187 --> 01:39:38,067 Speaker 19: spot and we just yeah, put the anchor down and 1973 01:39:38,147 --> 01:39:39,067 Speaker 19: now now we settled in. 1974 01:39:39,467 --> 01:39:41,347 Speaker 3: So you're just stay in the same place the whole time. 1975 01:39:41,387 --> 01:39:43,147 Speaker 3: Do you think you haven't got your desire to move 1976 01:39:43,187 --> 01:39:44,387 Speaker 3: around or nah? 1977 01:39:44,707 --> 01:39:46,507 Speaker 19: I think it's the plan. We're pretty much if you 1978 01:39:46,587 --> 01:39:48,107 Speaker 19: look at like, if you're thinking like a stadium, we're 1979 01:39:48,107 --> 01:39:49,707 Speaker 19: probably sick in row. We've got a couple of small 1980 01:39:49,707 --> 01:39:51,667 Speaker 19: boats ahead of us, but no, we're actually we've got 1981 01:39:51,707 --> 01:39:53,907 Speaker 19: a really good view. You've got the music on, the 1982 01:39:53,987 --> 01:39:54,867 Speaker 19: drinks flow and yeah, no. 1983 01:39:54,907 --> 01:39:57,987 Speaker 3: Complaints mate, this just sounds so good. How many have 1984 01:39:58,027 --> 01:39:59,307 Speaker 3: you got out there? How many on your boat? 1985 01:40:00,147 --> 01:40:00,387 Speaker 10: Mice? 1986 01:40:00,427 --> 01:40:02,707 Speaker 19: We're a thirty footo, we've got about twelve on board, 1987 01:40:03,307 --> 01:40:05,307 Speaker 19: so yeah, well we wouldn't want much too much more. 1988 01:40:05,307 --> 01:40:06,707 Speaker 19: I looking at some of the sixty but us, you know, 1989 01:40:06,747 --> 01:40:09,907 Speaker 19: they got probably upwards of about twenty next to us. Yeah, 1990 01:40:09,907 --> 01:40:11,347 Speaker 19: with these a boat probably next to us as a 1991 01:40:11,467 --> 01:40:13,587 Speaker 19: sixty foot I'm looking at about twenty on there. They're 1992 01:40:13,587 --> 01:40:15,227 Speaker 19: probably having a good time as well. But yeah, no, 1993 01:40:15,307 --> 01:40:16,707 Speaker 19: it's really good. Yes, it's going great. 1994 01:40:16,707 --> 01:40:18,827 Speaker 3: A here I saw, I mean there is. There's some 1995 01:40:18,907 --> 01:40:21,387 Speaker 3: serious money out on the water today, both in the 1996 01:40:21,507 --> 01:40:23,747 Speaker 3: racing but also in some of the spectator craft. I 1997 01:40:23,827 --> 01:40:26,107 Speaker 3: think I saw, and I'm sure this is doesn't matter 1998 01:40:26,147 --> 01:40:28,187 Speaker 3: if this is wrong. I think I saw the Mowbrays boat. 1999 01:40:28,187 --> 01:40:29,227 Speaker 3: Have you seen it, that big one? 2000 01:40:29,227 --> 01:40:29,987 Speaker 2: They're really big. 2001 01:40:29,867 --> 01:40:31,987 Speaker 19: Gand no I know the family, Yeah no, I have 2002 01:40:32,067 --> 01:40:34,067 Speaker 19: seen them around the phone around so yeah, no they're here. 2003 01:40:34,467 --> 01:40:39,467 Speaker 3: So yeah, so good a mate. Every part of me 2004 01:40:39,907 --> 01:40:41,427 Speaker 3: wishes that I could be out there on the water 2005 01:40:41,507 --> 01:40:43,067 Speaker 3: with you, mate, But thanks for painting the picture for 2006 01:40:43,107 --> 01:40:45,747 Speaker 3: our listeners. Enjoy your day and maybe we can chat 2007 01:40:45,787 --> 01:40:47,507 Speaker 3: to we can chat. Are you going back out again tomorrow? 2008 01:40:48,267 --> 01:40:48,467 Speaker 8: Yeah? 2009 01:40:48,467 --> 01:40:50,587 Speaker 19: Absolutely, yeah, two day pass Yeah yeah, going back out 2010 01:40:50,587 --> 01:40:53,427 Speaker 19: tomorrow or probably won't be a sunny but but yeah no, 2011 01:40:53,547 --> 01:40:54,587 Speaker 19: we'll be a all right. 2012 01:40:54,627 --> 01:40:56,427 Speaker 3: We'll keep your phone on mate. We might well come 2013 01:40:56,467 --> 01:40:57,587 Speaker 3: to you again tomorrow afternoon. 2014 01:40:58,307 --> 01:40:59,187 Speaker 19: Gets finely, appreciate it. 2015 01:40:59,427 --> 01:41:01,267 Speaker 3: Good on, youngest, Thanks mate, you go one of our 2016 01:41:01,307 --> 01:41:03,547 Speaker 3: listeners out on the water, by the sounds of it, 2017 01:41:03,667 --> 01:41:06,067 Speaker 3: having an absolute ball. He and eleven others out on 2018 01:41:06,107 --> 01:41:12,027 Speaker 3: the oh man, so good, so so good. What are 2019 01:41:12,147 --> 01:41:15,027 Speaker 3: we to twenty seven? Let's get back to some of 2020 01:41:15,067 --> 01:41:16,507 Speaker 3: those who all been out on the water, but in 2021 01:41:16,587 --> 01:41:19,947 Speaker 3: a competitive capacity. Great to welcome in a man who's 2022 01:41:19,987 --> 01:41:22,907 Speaker 3: been competing as a professional match racer and fleet racer 2023 01:41:23,187 --> 01:41:26,467 Speaker 3: since graduating from Boston College in twenty eleven. Seven time 2024 01:41:26,907 --> 01:41:30,867 Speaker 3: world champion, one of the best match races in recent memory. 2025 01:41:31,187 --> 01:41:35,107 Speaker 3: United States Sale GP team driver Taylor Canfield is here. 2026 01:41:35,147 --> 01:41:36,507 Speaker 3: Great to see you, mate, Thanks for stopping by. 2027 01:41:37,427 --> 01:41:39,507 Speaker 18: Yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here now. 2028 01:41:39,587 --> 01:41:41,947 Speaker 3: Of course, you're appointed driver of the US team midway 2029 01:41:41,987 --> 01:41:45,427 Speaker 3: through season four, which added in Christchurch a year ago 2030 01:41:45,587 --> 01:41:47,507 Speaker 3: or thereabouts. How are you feeling ahead of event too? 2031 01:41:47,907 --> 01:41:50,187 Speaker 3: In your first full season as driver? 2032 01:41:51,587 --> 01:41:52,147 Speaker 7: So excited? 2033 01:41:52,627 --> 01:41:54,227 Speaker 20: You know, I just have the opportunity to drive one 2034 01:41:54,267 --> 01:41:55,347 Speaker 20: of these incredible. 2035 01:41:54,947 --> 01:41:58,227 Speaker 18: Machines, is you know it's a dream come true? 2036 01:41:59,107 --> 01:41:59,307 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2037 01:41:59,387 --> 01:42:01,107 Speaker 20: And you know, to be able to travel around the 2038 01:42:01,147 --> 01:42:04,267 Speaker 20: world to you know, locations like this, in this racetrack, 2039 01:42:04,587 --> 01:42:05,987 Speaker 20: in front of this amazing city. 2040 01:42:06,507 --> 01:42:09,387 Speaker 3: Uh, you can't beat it. How challenging was it dropping 2041 01:42:09,427 --> 01:42:11,307 Speaker 3: into the team midway through season four? 2042 01:42:12,867 --> 01:42:13,067 Speaker 21: Yeah? 2043 01:42:13,227 --> 01:42:15,507 Speaker 20: I mean there's no words to really explain it to 2044 01:42:16,027 --> 01:42:19,147 Speaker 20: to hop into a new new class and uh, and 2045 01:42:19,267 --> 01:42:21,147 Speaker 20: competing against the best boats and the you know, the 2046 01:42:21,227 --> 01:42:23,107 Speaker 20: best sailors in the world and the fastest boats in 2047 01:42:23,147 --> 01:42:23,467 Speaker 20: the world. 2048 01:42:24,267 --> 01:42:26,547 Speaker 18: Yeah, it's it's full on. Uh, I think that's the 2049 01:42:26,587 --> 01:42:27,307 Speaker 18: best word to say. 2050 01:42:27,347 --> 01:42:30,147 Speaker 20: And but yeah, you know, we're making do and uh, 2051 01:42:30,507 --> 01:42:33,267 Speaker 20: things are definitely coming along and uh, you know, the 2052 01:42:33,307 --> 01:42:35,827 Speaker 20: progress we made as a team is awesome so far. 2053 01:42:35,947 --> 01:42:37,427 Speaker 18: But you know, I know there's a lot more to 2054 01:42:37,467 --> 01:42:37,907 Speaker 18: come as well. 2055 01:42:38,067 --> 01:42:39,667 Speaker 3: You want to talk about the progress and the good 2056 01:42:39,707 --> 01:42:42,667 Speaker 3: start to to this season, but what were the big 2057 01:42:43,427 --> 01:42:46,147 Speaker 3: lessons like iss you took personally out of season four 2058 01:42:46,307 --> 01:42:47,787 Speaker 3: or your part in season four? 2059 01:42:49,987 --> 01:42:53,147 Speaker 20: Well, for me probably uh, you know, just trying to 2060 01:42:53,187 --> 01:42:56,147 Speaker 20: be as consistent and concise as I can with my communication. 2061 01:42:57,187 --> 01:42:57,347 Speaker 13: You know. 2062 01:42:57,427 --> 01:43:00,987 Speaker 20: It's so everything is happening so quickly in in this racing, 2063 01:43:01,067 --> 01:43:03,587 Speaker 20: in this format. Uh, you just need everyone on board 2064 01:43:03,627 --> 01:43:05,867 Speaker 20: to be on the same page and and that usually 2065 01:43:05,987 --> 01:43:09,347 Speaker 20: creates environment for things to go well. So it's uh, 2066 01:43:09,827 --> 01:43:11,987 Speaker 20: you know, I say it a lot that we're raising 2067 01:43:12,027 --> 01:43:12,747 Speaker 20: ourselves out there. 2068 01:43:14,067 --> 01:43:14,307 Speaker 11: Again. 2069 01:43:14,347 --> 01:43:15,547 Speaker 18: The boats are so complex. 2070 01:43:15,947 --> 01:43:20,627 Speaker 20: Every maneuver requires so much concentration and just pure finesse 2071 01:43:20,787 --> 01:43:21,707 Speaker 20: with everyone on board. 2072 01:43:22,107 --> 01:43:22,147 Speaker 11: That. 2073 01:43:23,147 --> 01:43:25,587 Speaker 20: Yeah, we need everyone super tuned in and ready to go. 2074 01:43:25,707 --> 01:43:27,947 Speaker 20: And if if you have good communication that everyone knows 2075 01:43:27,947 --> 01:43:29,707 Speaker 20: what's coming and usually things go well. 2076 01:43:29,827 --> 01:43:31,787 Speaker 3: I love it. You we use the word finice. I 2077 01:43:31,827 --> 01:43:33,507 Speaker 3: think that's the first time I've heard that would use 2078 01:43:33,587 --> 01:43:35,827 Speaker 3: in relation to the fifties. I wean't to talk about 2079 01:43:35,827 --> 01:43:37,587 Speaker 3: the new t Folds in a moment, but I understand 2080 01:43:37,907 --> 01:43:39,587 Speaker 3: there was quite a bit off season training for the 2081 01:43:39,707 --> 01:43:41,027 Speaker 3: for the USA team, Is that right? 2082 01:43:41,947 --> 01:43:45,587 Speaker 20: Yeah, super fortunate. We had a great training camp in Bermuda. 2083 01:43:46,267 --> 01:43:49,987 Speaker 20: I mean, what what a spot. I'll take that for sure, 2084 01:43:51,027 --> 01:43:53,707 Speaker 20: and then some great training leading up to Dubde. You know, 2085 01:43:53,827 --> 01:43:57,307 Speaker 20: the first event of twenty twenty five season. We spent 2086 01:43:57,387 --> 01:44:00,907 Speaker 20: Thanksgiving over there, which is a bit controversial, but it was. 2087 01:44:01,147 --> 01:44:01,627 Speaker 18: It was fun. 2088 01:44:01,707 --> 01:44:04,627 Speaker 20: You know, we had our good, solid group and their 2089 01:44:04,667 --> 01:44:07,147 Speaker 20: culture is incredible in our team, so that was nice 2090 01:44:07,187 --> 01:44:09,547 Speaker 20: to have, you know, what felt like family surrounding us 2091 01:44:09,587 --> 01:44:09,747 Speaker 20: for that. 2092 01:44:10,027 --> 01:44:13,547 Speaker 3: Well, it obviously worked third in Dubai. How happy were 2093 01:44:13,587 --> 01:44:13,907 Speaker 3: you with that? 2094 01:44:15,307 --> 01:44:17,547 Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, ecstatic to be on the podium. Uh, 2095 01:44:17,907 --> 01:44:21,787 Speaker 20: it's it's this is just ruthless sailing, you know, it's 2096 01:44:22,347 --> 01:44:24,507 Speaker 20: We're gonna have our ups and downs, but a great 2097 01:44:24,507 --> 01:44:26,347 Speaker 20: way to start the season, and you know, to win. 2098 01:44:26,547 --> 01:44:28,147 Speaker 18: When the first race of the. 2099 01:44:28,627 --> 01:44:31,987 Speaker 20: Twenty twenty five season, Uh, that's that's something called too. 2100 01:44:32,227 --> 01:44:34,387 Speaker 20: I hope that we wrapped everyone up for the season 2101 01:44:34,467 --> 01:44:34,667 Speaker 20: to come. 2102 01:44:34,827 --> 01:44:37,987 Speaker 3: Absolute. It must have been a buzzy because first, the seventh, seventh, sixth, 2103 01:44:38,387 --> 01:44:41,547 Speaker 3: second to qualify third for the final. So what makes 2104 01:44:41,587 --> 01:44:43,627 Speaker 3: the difference between a first and a second or a 2105 01:44:43,707 --> 01:44:44,547 Speaker 3: sixth and the seventh. 2106 01:44:45,787 --> 01:44:48,747 Speaker 20: Yeah, let's let's forget about the middle races, you know. Yeah, 2107 01:44:49,027 --> 01:44:51,947 Speaker 20: it's hard to bring it up till No, it's all good. 2108 01:44:52,027 --> 01:44:55,907 Speaker 20: It's a game, it's a game of inches. It's again, 2109 01:44:55,987 --> 01:45:00,907 Speaker 20: it requires so much, I guess, just teamwork and uh, 2110 01:45:01,187 --> 01:45:03,067 Speaker 20: you know, it doesn't take much for things to go 2111 01:45:03,587 --> 01:45:08,347 Speaker 20: you know, completely bad. So yeah, it's just about execution 2112 01:45:08,587 --> 01:45:10,667 Speaker 20: and and everyone doing their jobs on board, and and 2113 01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:13,267 Speaker 20: and making sure that again everyone's ready for that that 2114 01:45:13,467 --> 01:45:16,467 Speaker 20: next thing. So the more foresight we can all like 2115 01:45:16,627 --> 01:45:18,867 Speaker 20: we can have as a team on board, the better 2116 01:45:18,907 --> 01:45:19,347 Speaker 20: it's gonna go. 2117 01:45:19,787 --> 01:45:23,427 Speaker 3: How much, uh is it or how different is it? Sorry? 2118 01:45:23,627 --> 01:45:26,467 Speaker 3: With the new high speed t foils, what what adjustments 2119 01:45:26,507 --> 01:45:27,147 Speaker 3: have you hit to Mike. 2120 01:45:28,307 --> 01:45:32,987 Speaker 20: Uh, there's definitely high speeds, we can confirm that, but yeah, 2121 01:45:33,107 --> 01:45:36,507 Speaker 20: you know, it's not too much has changed. Uh, some 2122 01:45:36,627 --> 01:45:38,947 Speaker 20: of the jobs on boards have changed. The flight controller's 2123 01:45:39,027 --> 01:45:42,387 Speaker 20: job has gotten more complex. You know, before we just 2124 01:45:42,467 --> 01:45:44,267 Speaker 20: had the rake of the foils fore and aft, and 2125 01:45:44,307 --> 01:45:45,747 Speaker 20: now we have the rank of the foils in and 2126 01:45:45,867 --> 01:45:48,667 Speaker 20: out as well, so you know, we've added this three 2127 01:45:48,707 --> 01:45:52,307 Speaker 20: dimensional uh kind of take to the new hydrofoils and 2128 01:45:53,187 --> 01:45:55,267 Speaker 20: it really affects the balance of the boat. 2129 01:45:55,387 --> 01:45:59,427 Speaker 18: And yeah, yeah, you know, the how much helmload. 2130 01:45:58,987 --> 01:46:02,227 Speaker 20: We're getting For me personally, it's been a big change. 2131 01:46:03,107 --> 01:46:04,747 Speaker 20: So just getting used to that and trying to figure 2132 01:46:04,747 --> 01:46:07,467 Speaker 20: out new ways to be you know, innovative. 2133 01:46:07,027 --> 01:46:10,507 Speaker 18: To you know, just get the most out of these boats. 2134 01:46:11,267 --> 01:46:12,227 Speaker 18: But yeah, pretty cool. 2135 01:46:12,267 --> 01:46:15,347 Speaker 20: I mean they're fast, they accelerate really quickly. You know, 2136 01:46:15,427 --> 01:46:17,347 Speaker 20: I think we're going to see more g forces. We 2137 01:46:17,427 --> 01:46:19,427 Speaker 20: can really throw the boats around. There's there's a lot 2138 01:46:19,467 --> 01:46:22,027 Speaker 20: of grip we like to call it, where the boat 2139 01:46:22,067 --> 01:46:23,387 Speaker 20: feels really attached to the water. 2140 01:46:24,627 --> 01:46:27,547 Speaker 18: So yeah, it's uh, it's a work in progress for everyone. 2141 01:46:27,627 --> 01:46:30,107 Speaker 20: It seems like, you know, watching some of the teams 2142 01:46:30,147 --> 01:46:33,467 Speaker 20: and and and ourselves going around the racetrack yesterday. There's 2143 01:46:34,067 --> 01:46:36,507 Speaker 20: it could be some Reavy moments. So everyone hold on 2144 01:46:36,627 --> 01:46:38,747 Speaker 20: and yeah and enjoy the show. 2145 01:46:38,867 --> 01:46:40,307 Speaker 3: So you're kind of learning as you go in some 2146 01:46:40,427 --> 01:46:41,747 Speaker 3: ways with with the new foils. 2147 01:46:42,427 --> 01:46:45,907 Speaker 20: Yeah, absolutely, it's uh it's a new game and we're 2148 01:46:45,907 --> 01:46:48,387 Speaker 20: all adjusting and figuring it out quickly. And you know, 2149 01:46:48,507 --> 01:46:52,467 Speaker 20: this shared data source for for sale GP just makes 2150 01:46:52,507 --> 01:46:54,787 Speaker 20: it that much uh, the learning process that much quicker. 2151 01:46:54,827 --> 01:46:57,307 Speaker 20: But there's a lot of ideas out there right now, 2152 01:46:57,347 --> 01:46:59,027 Speaker 20: and you can see it in the data that people 2153 01:46:59,067 --> 01:47:02,307 Speaker 20: are trying different things on on crazy radical ends of 2154 01:47:02,347 --> 01:47:05,907 Speaker 20: the spectrums, and you know, not not always. You come 2155 01:47:05,987 --> 01:47:07,707 Speaker 20: back in after a day sailing and you go through 2156 01:47:07,707 --> 01:47:09,387 Speaker 20: all the data and you're like, well, that didn't work, 2157 01:47:10,467 --> 01:47:12,387 Speaker 20: so you got to go back to the drawing board 2158 01:47:12,427 --> 01:47:14,867 Speaker 20: and try something new. But you don't always have to 2159 01:47:14,907 --> 01:47:16,787 Speaker 20: try the things, which is nice because other teams are 2160 01:47:16,827 --> 01:47:17,747 Speaker 20: doing that for you as well. 2161 01:47:17,987 --> 01:47:19,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that I can make your mistkes for you 2162 01:47:20,067 --> 01:47:22,067 Speaker 3: and say, well we'll rule that out, we won't do that. Yeah, 2163 01:47:22,627 --> 01:47:24,027 Speaker 3: you've had quite a bit of experience in the m 2164 01:47:24,107 --> 01:47:26,667 Speaker 3: thirty twos, who describes as a kind of a slow 2165 01:47:26,707 --> 01:47:29,147 Speaker 3: down version of an fifty. So is your experience in 2166 01:47:29,187 --> 01:47:32,267 Speaker 3: the M thirty two has helped and you'll in racing any. 2167 01:47:32,187 --> 01:47:35,307 Speaker 20: Fifty Yeah, absolutely, and I think a lot of uh, 2168 01:47:35,787 --> 01:47:39,227 Speaker 20: you know, I guess some of our starting, starting success 2169 01:47:39,987 --> 01:47:41,747 Speaker 20: out of the racetrack has come from the M thirty 2170 01:47:41,787 --> 01:47:43,947 Speaker 20: two class and that routine that we've set up in 2171 01:47:44,707 --> 01:47:46,667 Speaker 20: something I've sworn by for for many years. 2172 01:47:46,747 --> 01:47:49,427 Speaker 18: But yeah, you know, it's it's been a progression for. 2173 01:47:49,507 --> 01:47:51,747 Speaker 20: Me from you know, the slow Monohl match racing to 2174 01:47:51,867 --> 01:47:54,427 Speaker 20: the you know, the apparent win M thirty two sailing 2175 01:47:54,467 --> 01:47:57,827 Speaker 20: nonfoiling to now this, you know is uh, it's been 2176 01:47:58,067 --> 01:48:00,187 Speaker 20: It's been really cool and it's taken a lot of 2177 01:48:00,187 --> 01:48:01,787 Speaker 20: getting used to it for sure, you know, and have 2178 01:48:02,907 --> 01:48:05,347 Speaker 20: seventy knots apparent win on the on the face, you know, 2179 01:48:05,507 --> 01:48:07,187 Speaker 20: trying to community with your teammates. 2180 01:48:07,347 --> 01:48:08,067 Speaker 18: It's pretty full on. 2181 01:48:08,387 --> 01:48:11,627 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll see you had Liam Lawson in your in 2182 01:48:11,667 --> 01:48:14,507 Speaker 3: your team base. Was that yesterday? How do you reckon? 2183 01:48:14,547 --> 01:48:17,067 Speaker 3: You go with a driver swamp scheme, you reckon, You 2184 01:48:17,107 --> 01:48:19,067 Speaker 3: get behind a Formula one car and he could drive 2185 01:48:19,147 --> 01:48:19,707 Speaker 3: this thing out of here? 2186 01:48:20,387 --> 01:48:20,947 Speaker 2: Oh man? 2187 01:48:21,507 --> 01:48:24,667 Speaker 18: Uh, did you just I would definitely give it a go. 2188 01:48:25,787 --> 01:48:26,587 Speaker 18: How cool would that be? 2189 01:48:27,507 --> 01:48:27,547 Speaker 16: No? 2190 01:48:27,827 --> 01:48:28,067 Speaker 3: Liam. 2191 01:48:28,267 --> 01:48:29,307 Speaker 18: You know what a great guy. 2192 01:48:29,507 --> 01:48:32,267 Speaker 20: Uh, super pumped for him to have the seat uh 2193 01:48:32,387 --> 01:48:34,507 Speaker 20: in the Red Bull car this season, and uh yeah, 2194 01:48:34,587 --> 01:48:36,547 Speaker 20: we'll be following him. You know when when you meet 2195 01:48:36,587 --> 01:48:39,107 Speaker 20: someone and you get that extra special bond with them 2196 01:48:39,187 --> 01:48:42,307 Speaker 20: and meeting them in person and they're seeing their personality. 2197 01:48:42,387 --> 01:48:43,147 Speaker 18: So that'll be really cool. 2198 01:48:43,147 --> 01:48:45,867 Speaker 20: I'll be rerooting for him this season and uh yeah, 2199 01:48:45,907 --> 01:48:48,067 Speaker 20: hopefully we can get them out later for a run 2200 01:48:48,147 --> 01:48:49,787 Speaker 20: on one of these on these boats and seey things. 2201 01:48:49,867 --> 01:48:51,347 Speaker 3: And what it doesn't surprise me you jump in the 2202 01:48:51,427 --> 01:48:53,147 Speaker 3: race car because you strike me as a bit of 2203 01:48:53,187 --> 01:48:56,307 Speaker 3: an adrenaline junkie, if your Instagram is to be believed. 2204 01:48:56,867 --> 01:48:58,707 Speaker 3: Bungee jumping off the skytower this week. 2205 01:48:59,627 --> 01:49:02,507 Speaker 20: Yeah you know, landed in uh in Auckland, I think 2206 01:49:02,547 --> 01:49:04,267 Speaker 20: nine thirty am and we're on the top of the 2207 01:49:04,507 --> 01:49:06,227 Speaker 20: sky tower at eleven o'clock. 2208 01:49:06,467 --> 01:49:08,907 Speaker 18: Uh, straight into it. 2209 01:49:09,067 --> 01:49:09,867 Speaker 2: Uh, I love it. 2210 01:49:09,987 --> 01:49:11,147 Speaker 18: I love the extremes. 2211 01:49:11,187 --> 01:49:13,307 Speaker 20: And uh I used to jump off you know, these 2212 01:49:13,427 --> 01:49:14,987 Speaker 20: rocks and cliffs as a little kid down in the 2213 01:49:15,067 --> 01:49:19,067 Speaker 20: Virgin Islands. And yeah, I for some reason, I don't know, 2214 01:49:19,227 --> 01:49:22,227 Speaker 20: it doesn't doesn't trigger my brain to to have the 2215 01:49:22,267 --> 01:49:24,747 Speaker 20: fear when I'm up high like that. Very lucky in 2216 01:49:24,827 --> 01:49:26,827 Speaker 20: that in that sense, I guess, but I was ready 2217 01:49:26,827 --> 01:49:29,787 Speaker 20: to go. It's coolstanding probably helps you out here as well. So, hey, a, 2218 01:49:29,787 --> 01:49:31,827 Speaker 20: you're feeling a few hours out from from the start 2219 01:49:31,907 --> 01:49:33,187 Speaker 20: of of sol GP Oakland. 2220 01:49:34,187 --> 01:49:35,147 Speaker 18: Uh, just pumped. 2221 01:49:35,187 --> 01:49:37,467 Speaker 20: I mean we were sailing out there yesterday. I was 2222 01:49:37,467 --> 01:49:38,707 Speaker 20: looking back at the Grand Standard. 2223 01:49:39,547 --> 01:49:40,307 Speaker 18: This is so cool. 2224 01:49:40,627 --> 01:49:42,907 Speaker 20: The fact that you know, this, this sport here in 2225 01:49:42,947 --> 01:49:45,627 Speaker 20: New Zealand is just, you know, such an incredible thing. 2226 01:49:45,787 --> 01:49:45,907 Speaker 9: Uh. 2227 01:49:46,587 --> 01:49:49,747 Speaker 20: It's part of their culture and you know, I'm pumped 2228 01:49:49,787 --> 01:49:52,587 Speaker 20: to see how everyone's you know, gonna gonna be here 2229 01:49:52,667 --> 01:49:55,187 Speaker 20: rooting us on. And you know, we've already acquired a 2230 01:49:55,227 --> 01:49:57,507 Speaker 20: few Kiwi fans. They've come through the base and we've 2231 01:49:57,627 --> 01:49:59,147 Speaker 20: we've turned them from the Kiwi team. 2232 01:49:59,707 --> 01:49:59,827 Speaker 3: Uh. 2233 01:50:00,347 --> 01:50:02,507 Speaker 18: So that's uh, that's cool to see that people are 2234 01:50:02,547 --> 01:50:04,427 Speaker 18: here even in New Zealand rooining for us. 2235 01:50:04,507 --> 01:50:07,227 Speaker 20: And uh, the race traction of being in cradible, it'll 2236 01:50:07,267 --> 01:50:10,787 Speaker 20: be tight, eleven boats, it's going to be full line 2237 01:50:10,827 --> 01:50:11,147 Speaker 20: out there. 2238 01:50:11,307 --> 01:50:13,387 Speaker 3: Well, we just can't wait. Hey, Taylor, I'm sure you 2239 01:50:13,467 --> 01:50:15,907 Speaker 3: learn a lot more fans across the weekend. It's great 2240 01:50:15,947 --> 01:50:18,027 Speaker 3: to get the chance to catch up at you again 2241 01:50:18,067 --> 01:50:19,547 Speaker 3: all the best here in Auckland and for the rest 2242 01:50:19,587 --> 01:50:21,427 Speaker 3: of season five of sale GP. 2243 01:50:21,827 --> 01:50:24,347 Speaker 18: Yeah, thanks so much, and yeah be sure to tune 2244 01:50:24,387 --> 01:50:26,187 Speaker 18: in and we'll put on a good show. 2245 01:50:26,427 --> 01:50:28,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll bet you well. Thanks mate. Taylor Canfield there 2246 01:50:28,747 --> 01:50:31,627 Speaker 3: from the US team. He's the driver of the US 2247 01:50:32,227 --> 01:50:34,907 Speaker 3: entry in sale GP. The show is coming to you 2248 01:50:35,027 --> 01:50:38,347 Speaker 3: live from White Tomata Harbor or looking out onto White 2249 01:50:38,347 --> 01:50:40,627 Speaker 3: Tamata Harbor. We're actually in the drink. Don't worry about that, 2250 01:50:40,827 --> 01:50:43,667 Speaker 3: we are. The gear probably wouldn't work quite as well 2251 01:50:44,107 --> 01:50:48,787 Speaker 3: out there. My on site tech agrees, so I think 2252 01:50:48,827 --> 01:50:50,707 Speaker 3: where we are at the moment on dry land is 2253 01:50:51,187 --> 01:50:53,747 Speaker 3: probably the best place for us. Still in Fletcher, the 2254 01:50:54,107 --> 01:50:57,027 Speaker 3: driver of the Great Britain team, going to join us shortly. 2255 01:50:57,067 --> 01:51:00,387 Speaker 3: Barry says, I met Taylor at Northport when sale GP 2256 01:51:00,547 --> 01:51:05,067 Speaker 3: began their original training program using the US. If fifty 2257 01:51:05,147 --> 01:51:08,107 Speaker 3: are cheerful and a muse character, he certainly is. You 2258 01:51:08,187 --> 01:51:10,187 Speaker 3: can just tell from chatting to him their barriers. I'm 2259 01:51:10,227 --> 01:51:13,147 Speaker 3: sure you found out when you met him. A wonderful guy. 2260 01:51:13,307 --> 01:51:17,587 Speaker 3: In fact, I have to say that, without exception, the sailors, 2261 01:51:18,107 --> 01:51:23,267 Speaker 3: the members of the teams, those involved, the owners, everybody 2262 01:51:23,347 --> 01:51:27,227 Speaker 3: involved with sale GP has been extremely accommodating to us 2263 01:51:27,707 --> 01:51:30,747 Speaker 3: as we've been putting these two shows together, asking them 2264 01:51:30,747 --> 01:51:33,387 Speaker 3: if we could chat to them at various times. They've 2265 01:51:33,427 --> 01:51:37,627 Speaker 3: almost without exception, gone out of their way to make 2266 01:51:37,907 --> 01:51:40,427 Speaker 3: things work for us, and I think that is a 2267 01:51:40,507 --> 01:51:43,947 Speaker 3: big part of the success of sale GP and probably 2268 01:51:43,987 --> 01:51:46,947 Speaker 3: a lesson for a lot of sports. They know they 2269 01:51:46,987 --> 01:51:49,707 Speaker 3: are not the only game in town. They know that 2270 01:51:49,827 --> 01:51:55,547 Speaker 3: they are in a battle for discretionary eyeballs, discretionary sponsorship, 2271 01:51:55,947 --> 01:51:59,827 Speaker 3: broadcast dollars, merchandise, all of that stuff. We've each all 2272 01:51:59,987 --> 01:52:02,747 Speaker 3: only got so many hours in our day and so 2273 01:52:02,867 --> 01:52:06,027 Speaker 3: many dollars in our wallet, and they're in a battle 2274 01:52:06,067 --> 01:52:09,027 Speaker 3: to try and get some of that, to get our 2275 01:52:09,107 --> 01:52:12,747 Speaker 3: eyes on sour GP, to get us to reach into 2276 01:52:12,827 --> 01:52:16,667 Speaker 3: our wallets to buy tickets, to buy merchandise, to support 2277 01:52:16,747 --> 01:52:19,107 Speaker 3: things like this. And so it just feels to me, 2278 01:52:19,227 --> 01:52:21,347 Speaker 3: and whether this is deliberate or whether it's just something 2279 01:52:21,427 --> 01:52:26,627 Speaker 3: that the sailors intrinsically understand, they know their part to play, 2280 01:52:27,267 --> 01:52:31,627 Speaker 3: They know their part to play. They answer questions with intelligence, 2281 01:52:32,107 --> 01:52:37,267 Speaker 3: with humor, with insight, and look, I've just thoroughly enjoyed 2282 01:52:37,667 --> 01:52:39,907 Speaker 3: being here today and I'm sure the same can be 2283 01:52:39,987 --> 01:52:43,787 Speaker 3: said tomorrow as well, chatting to those who are going 2284 01:52:43,827 --> 01:52:45,987 Speaker 3: to be sailing these boats around the race course here 2285 01:52:46,027 --> 01:52:48,907 Speaker 3: at Watamata Harbor in the next couple of hours or so. 2286 01:52:49,387 --> 01:52:51,347 Speaker 3: Just in terms of a time frame, four o'clock this 2287 01:52:51,427 --> 01:52:54,227 Speaker 3: afternoon is when racing gets underway. Three races inside the 2288 01:52:54,267 --> 01:52:57,267 Speaker 3: broadcast window, which is ninety minutes, the points will be 2289 01:52:57,347 --> 01:52:59,947 Speaker 3: totted up, and then tomorrow two more fleet races again 2290 01:53:00,027 --> 01:53:04,027 Speaker 3: from four and then the finale a three boat winner 2291 01:53:04,107 --> 01:53:07,787 Speaker 3: takes all finale, which I guess we can probably estimate 2292 01:53:07,867 --> 01:53:11,707 Speaker 3: we'll go sometime after five o'clock tomorrow afternoon. The wind 2293 01:53:11,827 --> 01:53:14,187 Speaker 3: is set to get up a bit tomorrow. It is 2294 01:53:14,267 --> 01:53:17,787 Speaker 3: going to cause all sorts of intrigue out there on 2295 01:53:17,867 --> 01:53:19,747 Speaker 3: the water, but there's intrigued today as well as a 2296 01:53:19,787 --> 01:53:22,587 Speaker 3: lookout look. I'm I'm no I was going to say, 2297 01:53:22,627 --> 01:53:25,747 Speaker 3: I'm no nautician. Is that even a word? The fact 2298 01:53:25,787 --> 01:53:27,147 Speaker 3: that I don't even know whether it is or not 2299 01:53:27,187 --> 01:53:30,547 Speaker 3: would probably suggest that I'm not one. I'm no expert 2300 01:53:30,627 --> 01:53:33,827 Speaker 3: on nautical matters. But looking out there now, it looks 2301 01:53:33,907 --> 01:53:37,667 Speaker 3: like it's a perfect afternoon for sailing. So in about 2302 01:53:37,667 --> 01:53:39,667 Speaker 3: an hour and twenty minutes. We're going to get the 2303 01:53:39,787 --> 01:53:42,627 Speaker 3: chance to see it here at sale GP in Auckland. 2304 01:53:42,867 --> 01:53:44,667 Speaker 3: Let's get a breakaway twenty one away from three when 2305 01:53:44,667 --> 01:53:47,187 Speaker 3: we come back. Dylan Fletcher, driver of the Great Britain 2306 01:53:47,427 --> 01:53:48,747 Speaker 3: sal gpting. 2307 01:53:50,187 --> 01:53:54,587 Speaker 1: Hella Furious on and after Water Live from sale Gping 2308 01:53:54,667 --> 01:53:59,387 Speaker 1: in Auckland. It's Weekend Sport with Jason Fine and GJ Gunnomes, 2309 01:53:59,627 --> 01:54:01,467 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder. 2310 01:54:01,587 --> 01:54:02,427 Speaker 2: News Talks at b. 2311 01:54:03,027 --> 01:54:05,627 Speaker 3: Coming up seventeen away from three on News Talks EB 2312 01:54:05,667 --> 01:54:08,507 Speaker 3: and Weekend Sport Line from sle GP Auckland. Let's bring 2313 01:54:08,547 --> 01:54:12,627 Speaker 3: in another of the drivers, another very handy sailor, Olympic 2314 01:54:12,747 --> 01:54:16,787 Speaker 3: champion and Tokyo Moth World champion, co driver of Veneus 2315 01:54:17,067 --> 01:54:20,667 Speaker 3: Britannia in the Summers America's Coup alongside Immirates Great Britain 2316 01:54:20,747 --> 01:54:23,867 Speaker 3: CEOs of Ben Ainsley. He drove the British team in 2317 01:54:24,067 --> 01:54:27,547 Speaker 3: salgp's first ever season and is back for season five, 2318 01:54:27,667 --> 01:54:31,827 Speaker 3: replacing Giles Scott who is now with Team Canada. Dylan 2319 01:54:31,867 --> 01:54:34,547 Speaker 3: Fletcher is with us. How are you feeling ahead of 2320 01:54:34,547 --> 01:54:35,707 Speaker 3: SALGP here in Auckland. 2321 01:54:36,507 --> 01:54:39,227 Speaker 21: Yeah, buzzin can't wait to get out there and get 2322 01:54:39,267 --> 01:54:39,947 Speaker 21: on the race course. 2323 01:54:40,627 --> 01:54:43,947 Speaker 3: The tefoils are on everybody's mind. Everyone's been talking about 2324 01:54:43,987 --> 01:54:46,227 Speaker 3: them this week. Tell us about your experience with the 2325 01:54:46,267 --> 01:54:47,827 Speaker 3: new titanium tefoils. 2326 01:54:48,027 --> 01:54:49,987 Speaker 21: Yeah, it's fantastic to get them mine. It's obviously a 2327 01:54:50,027 --> 01:54:52,587 Speaker 21: bit more similar to what we're using have in Barcelona. 2328 01:54:52,787 --> 01:54:57,067 Speaker 21: So there's been plenty of interesting differences between the teams. 2329 01:54:57,427 --> 01:55:00,227 Speaker 21: I'd say that there's been a little bit more looseness 2330 01:55:00,267 --> 01:55:02,507 Speaker 21: out there, some more crashing. So I think it'll be 2331 01:55:02,547 --> 01:55:03,667 Speaker 21: a great weekend for the fans. 2332 01:55:03,867 --> 01:55:08,427 Speaker 3: That does it bring into sharper focus the skill of 2333 01:55:08,507 --> 01:55:12,027 Speaker 3: the sailors we're going at, you know, at faster speeds. 2334 01:55:12,507 --> 01:55:14,947 Speaker 21: I think that the fastest speeds will be great, but 2335 01:55:15,067 --> 01:55:17,707 Speaker 21: I also think it's about how we learn and adapt 2336 01:55:17,787 --> 01:55:20,147 Speaker 21: to these new tfoils and how the boat behaves. So 2337 01:55:20,587 --> 01:55:23,067 Speaker 21: there's certainly plenty for us to get on top of. 2338 01:55:23,187 --> 01:55:25,507 Speaker 21: And we've seen some, as you say, some differences, and 2339 01:55:25,547 --> 01:55:27,147 Speaker 21: we're all trying to work out the best way to 2340 01:55:27,267 --> 01:55:28,587 Speaker 21: get the boats around the race course. 2341 01:55:28,827 --> 01:55:30,907 Speaker 3: What are your experiences with them, what have you it 2342 01:55:31,027 --> 01:55:32,067 Speaker 3: to adjust the most. 2343 01:55:32,667 --> 01:55:35,587 Speaker 21: There's some different settings that we can play with and 2344 01:55:35,707 --> 01:55:38,867 Speaker 21: the cant so the angle that it drops at is 2345 01:55:39,147 --> 01:55:41,067 Speaker 21: very similar in reality again to the sort of the 2346 01:55:41,107 --> 01:55:43,947 Speaker 21: seventy five the aight forties, So trying to work out 2347 01:55:44,107 --> 01:55:47,307 Speaker 21: where we can bring the experience from the Cup, but 2348 01:55:47,427 --> 01:55:49,747 Speaker 21: also how different it is in cel GP with the 2349 01:55:49,867 --> 01:55:52,147 Speaker 21: f fifty Catmaran. So there's plenty going on. 2350 01:55:52,547 --> 01:55:56,547 Speaker 3: So you're beckon to in to sell GP. Obviously you 2351 01:55:56,627 --> 01:55:59,427 Speaker 3: know the change of dry has that been relatively seamless 2352 01:55:59,427 --> 01:56:00,387 Speaker 3: as far as you're consuit. 2353 01:56:00,867 --> 01:56:04,147 Speaker 21: I think it feels good to be back in Emirates GVR, 2354 01:56:04,267 --> 01:56:07,267 Speaker 21: but obviously the team's very experienced. I know that the 2355 01:56:07,387 --> 01:56:09,907 Speaker 21: level has gone at massively since season one, so I'm 2356 01:56:09,987 --> 01:56:12,547 Speaker 21: very much just hanging off what the team's telling me 2357 01:56:12,667 --> 01:56:14,667 Speaker 21: and trying to do the best job I can. 2358 01:56:15,107 --> 01:56:17,867 Speaker 3: You must obviously have kept a close eye on cel GP, 2359 01:56:18,027 --> 01:56:20,067 Speaker 3: though as you say you were involved in season one, 2360 01:56:20,187 --> 01:56:22,627 Speaker 3: you clearly have kept an eye on its development over 2361 01:56:22,947 --> 01:56:24,667 Speaker 3: over seasons two, three, four into five. 2362 01:56:24,787 --> 01:56:27,187 Speaker 21: Now, yeah, certainly kept an eye, and I was even 2363 01:56:27,227 --> 01:56:30,187 Speaker 21: sort of working behind the scenes in season three. So yeah, 2364 01:56:30,267 --> 01:56:33,067 Speaker 21: it's great to finally be back driving, and the boats 2365 01:56:33,107 --> 01:56:35,187 Speaker 21: have got a lot faster, a lot better. The teams 2366 01:56:35,187 --> 01:56:37,827 Speaker 21: are a lot better, and I think that. It's just amazing, 2367 01:56:37,947 --> 01:56:40,307 Speaker 21: to be honest, you know, I think this event here 2368 01:56:40,387 --> 01:56:43,427 Speaker 21: really shows CELGP at its best. We've got, you know, 2369 01:56:43,507 --> 01:56:46,387 Speaker 21: eight thousand you know, seats in a grandstand right by 2370 01:56:46,427 --> 01:56:49,267 Speaker 21: the race course, the tech areas right here, we've got 2371 01:56:49,307 --> 01:56:51,387 Speaker 21: all the moorings which are really closed. It's amazing to 2372 01:56:51,427 --> 01:56:53,747 Speaker 21: see all the fans here already. So I just hope 2373 01:56:53,747 --> 01:56:55,147 Speaker 21: that we put on a great show for everyone. 2374 01:56:55,347 --> 01:56:57,827 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any any danger of that not happening. 2375 01:56:58,067 --> 01:57:00,787 Speaker 3: Obviously you've come and for Giles Scott, who's gone to 2376 01:57:00,867 --> 01:57:03,947 Speaker 3: the Canadian team. Can you tell us how that conversation happened? 2377 01:57:04,307 --> 01:57:06,107 Speaker 3: Who run you? Was it an easy years? 2378 01:57:06,907 --> 01:57:08,747 Speaker 21: I was very fluid and it was quite late, to 2379 01:57:08,787 --> 01:57:12,507 Speaker 21: be honest, Ben knows. I've always been pushing to get 2380 01:57:12,627 --> 01:57:14,587 Speaker 21: back on the boat or back in in f fifty 2381 01:57:14,627 --> 01:57:17,027 Speaker 21: ever since that first season. And you know, I guess 2382 01:57:17,067 --> 01:57:19,467 Speaker 21: I was slightly surprised at first when Garles went to 2383 01:57:19,627 --> 01:57:22,947 Speaker 21: the Canadians, but it all fell into place quite nicely 2384 01:57:23,067 --> 01:57:25,707 Speaker 21: at the end of my time in Barcelona, with Ben 2385 01:57:25,787 --> 01:57:27,547 Speaker 21: saying that you know, I'd got the gig and I 2386 01:57:27,627 --> 01:57:30,827 Speaker 21: was driving, So yeah, an exceptional end to an exceptional summer. 2387 01:57:31,027 --> 01:57:35,267 Speaker 3: What has Subbin like to deal with formidable? 2388 01:57:36,147 --> 01:57:39,147 Speaker 21: But he's really nice, to be honest, and you always 2389 01:57:39,227 --> 01:57:41,507 Speaker 21: know where you are with him, and yeah, I certainly 2390 01:57:41,547 --> 01:57:42,507 Speaker 21: have a good relationship. 2391 01:57:42,787 --> 01:57:47,307 Speaker 3: So Dubai the season opening into Dubai Seek and there, 2392 01:57:47,867 --> 01:57:50,147 Speaker 3: you must have been pretty happy with it, were you. 2393 01:57:50,587 --> 01:57:52,507 Speaker 21: Yeah, I guess pretty happy. He's a probably a good 2394 01:57:52,547 --> 01:57:55,387 Speaker 21: way of putting it. Certainly, we know it's a long 2395 01:57:55,467 --> 01:57:57,867 Speaker 21: season in CELGP and we're all about getting into that 2396 01:57:57,947 --> 01:57:59,867 Speaker 21: Grand Final by at the end of the day, we're 2397 01:57:59,867 --> 01:58:02,147 Speaker 21: trying to win every event, and to be honest, I'm 2398 01:58:02,547 --> 01:58:04,827 Speaker 21: still sort of slightly annoyed at myself for part of 2399 01:58:04,907 --> 01:58:07,507 Speaker 21: that in terms of I just wanted to win, and 2400 01:58:07,707 --> 01:58:09,907 Speaker 21: you know, being being by the keywis is something I 2401 01:58:09,947 --> 01:58:10,467 Speaker 21: don't enjoy. 2402 01:58:12,267 --> 01:58:15,107 Speaker 3: Well, you'll probably enjoy it list out here with eight 2403 01:58:15,187 --> 01:58:17,587 Speaker 3: thousand if it happens, of course, with eight thousand cheering. 2404 01:58:17,667 --> 01:58:21,387 Speaker 3: So what were you annoyed personally? It's something you did 2405 01:58:21,587 --> 01:58:22,067 Speaker 3: or didn't do. 2406 01:58:22,467 --> 01:58:24,547 Speaker 21: Yeah, we were leading the race sort of halfway through 2407 01:58:24,667 --> 01:58:27,947 Speaker 21: and you know, a little mistake from myself on you know, 2408 01:58:28,107 --> 01:58:29,667 Speaker 21: open the door for Pete and I know that you know, 2409 01:58:29,747 --> 01:58:32,467 Speaker 21: he'll take any opportunity you get. So it was a 2410 01:58:32,507 --> 01:58:35,747 Speaker 21: frustrating one, but yeah, we'll live and lane. 2411 01:58:36,107 --> 01:58:38,627 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the conditions out here across the 2412 01:58:38,747 --> 01:58:41,627 Speaker 3: next two days. You've obviously been training practicing out here. 2413 01:58:41,667 --> 01:58:44,707 Speaker 3: What impact do you expect the conditions to have on 2414 01:58:44,867 --> 01:58:45,867 Speaker 3: racing to them tomorrow. 2415 01:58:46,147 --> 01:58:48,507 Speaker 21: I think it's gonna be very hectic and close. The 2416 01:58:49,147 --> 01:58:52,067 Speaker 21: last two days we've been racing with fleets of five 2417 01:58:52,227 --> 01:58:54,627 Speaker 21: or six boats, and today is the first time we've 2418 01:58:54,667 --> 01:58:56,707 Speaker 21: got all eleven on the race course and it felt 2419 01:58:56,827 --> 01:58:59,667 Speaker 21: small with six boats, So eleven it's going to feel 2420 01:58:59,667 --> 01:59:03,667 Speaker 21: real small. So I'm expecting plenty of furs and spills 2421 01:59:03,747 --> 01:59:06,667 Speaker 21: and crashes, and yeah, just trying to keep keep on 2422 01:59:06,787 --> 01:59:08,387 Speaker 21: its feet is going to be the important part. 2423 01:59:08,547 --> 01:59:11,387 Speaker 3: So actually you're going into the racing expecting that there 2424 01:59:11,427 --> 01:59:13,147 Speaker 3: will be some carnage. 2425 01:59:13,787 --> 01:59:16,827 Speaker 21: Yes, hopefully no one actually touches, but you know, we've 2426 01:59:16,907 --> 01:59:20,107 Speaker 21: seen plenty of crashes. The Germans, you know, nearly put 2427 01:59:20,147 --> 01:59:22,227 Speaker 21: it in a tide yesterday around the bottom mark. I 2428 01:59:22,267 --> 01:59:24,227 Speaker 21: think of Brazilians nearly put it in the tide. So 2429 01:59:24,947 --> 01:59:25,787 Speaker 21: there's plenty going on. 2430 01:59:26,147 --> 01:59:29,747 Speaker 3: What's it What is it like though? With with other boats, 2431 01:59:29,987 --> 01:59:35,427 Speaker 3: high speed, close proximity, low margin for era. How how 2432 01:59:35,587 --> 01:59:37,947 Speaker 3: cool headed do you have to be in situations like that? 2433 01:59:38,547 --> 01:59:40,027 Speaker 21: Yeah, I guess you've got to keep your call. But 2434 01:59:40,147 --> 01:59:41,827 Speaker 21: to be honest, I think this is what all of 2435 01:59:41,907 --> 01:59:44,107 Speaker 21: us live for. We absolutely love it out there and 2436 01:59:44,227 --> 01:59:47,027 Speaker 21: having eleven boats and going you know, ninety k's and 2437 01:59:47,107 --> 01:59:48,907 Speaker 21: now one hundred ks now hopefully, is that's. 2438 01:59:48,787 --> 01:59:49,307 Speaker 7: What we live for? 2439 01:59:49,547 --> 01:59:53,227 Speaker 3: You reckon you had one hundred, I hope so, and 2440 01:59:53,307 --> 01:59:55,347 Speaker 3: what about rounding the marks because again, you know that 2441 01:59:55,667 --> 01:59:59,467 Speaker 3: very close proximity. They talk about getting elbows out, don't 2442 01:59:59,467 --> 02:00:01,787 Speaker 3: they things like that? As you know, you're ready for 2443 02:00:01,867 --> 02:00:03,787 Speaker 3: that sort of thing this afternoon and tomorrow as well. 2444 02:00:04,267 --> 02:00:04,467 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2445 02:00:04,507 --> 02:00:06,187 Speaker 21: I think it's that famous quote. You know, if you 2446 02:00:06,547 --> 02:00:07,987 Speaker 21: a gap, you've got to go for it, otherwise you're 2447 02:00:07,987 --> 02:00:10,707 Speaker 21: no longer a racing driver, so you'll be giving it everything. 2448 02:00:11,987 --> 02:00:13,827 Speaker 3: The FIFTI saw do they compet to the other craft 2449 02:00:13,867 --> 02:00:15,307 Speaker 3: that you've seldom. 2450 02:00:15,587 --> 02:00:18,227 Speaker 21: They're you know, they're formidable really as well. They're just 2451 02:00:18,387 --> 02:00:20,867 Speaker 21: the speed is high. It's not as quick as some 2452 02:00:20,947 --> 02:00:23,787 Speaker 21: of the others, but it's the fact that you're very 2453 02:00:23,907 --> 02:00:26,907 Speaker 21: exposed open you're having to run across the boat when 2454 02:00:26,947 --> 02:00:29,827 Speaker 21: you're doing you know, seventy eighty ks now, which is 2455 02:00:30,227 --> 02:00:32,867 Speaker 21: is pretty full on so and I think for me 2456 02:00:32,987 --> 02:00:34,507 Speaker 21: the main thing is just the fact that we've got 2457 02:00:34,827 --> 02:00:37,547 Speaker 21: ten of the boats on the race course. It's super tight, 2458 02:00:37,667 --> 02:00:40,667 Speaker 21: its ever changing, so it's some of the best racing 2459 02:00:40,707 --> 02:00:41,027 Speaker 21: in a while. 2460 02:00:41,107 --> 02:00:41,507 Speaker 7: To be honest. 2461 02:00:41,787 --> 02:00:45,467 Speaker 3: In the start obviously important, you know, doubly so with 2462 02:00:45,787 --> 02:00:48,227 Speaker 3: so many boats, not a lot of room or time 2463 02:00:48,347 --> 02:00:51,747 Speaker 3: to overtake. So if you don't get the start right, 2464 02:00:51,867 --> 02:00:55,507 Speaker 3: can you still put together an impressive performance beyond the 2465 02:00:55,547 --> 02:00:56,387 Speaker 3: start line? If you get my. 2466 02:00:56,427 --> 02:00:58,867 Speaker 21: Drift, yeah, I think that you saw, you know, if 2467 02:00:58,867 --> 02:01:02,587 Speaker 21: you look back at Dubai from a sort of the 2468 02:01:02,907 --> 02:01:06,227 Speaker 21: stats and everything, and asselves, I think the keyis were 2469 02:01:06,427 --> 02:01:08,947 Speaker 21: baths davertakers and we're with the second bass day overtakers 2470 02:01:09,027 --> 02:01:12,067 Speaker 21: and neither of us started particularly well. So I guess 2471 02:01:12,107 --> 02:01:13,987 Speaker 21: it's that balance. Idaarly, you start well, but if you 2472 02:01:14,027 --> 02:01:16,667 Speaker 21: don't start well, make sure you overtake well fair enough. 2473 02:01:16,707 --> 02:01:19,427 Speaker 3: You're excited, Yeah, looking forward to great to see you, Dylan, 2474 02:01:19,507 --> 02:01:21,347 Speaker 3: all the best out there today and tomorrow. Thanks for 2475 02:01:21,387 --> 02:01:24,347 Speaker 3: stopping him for a chat. Thanks as Dyllan Fletcher, he's 2476 02:01:24,387 --> 02:01:26,627 Speaker 3: the driver of the Great Britain team. You better get 2477 02:01:26,627 --> 02:01:27,947 Speaker 3: out there, mate. I think some of the other boats 2478 02:01:27,987 --> 02:01:30,107 Speaker 3: are already out on the water. Thanks for stopping in 2479 02:01:30,227 --> 02:01:33,187 Speaker 3: so close to race time. It's ten to three with 2480 02:01:33,347 --> 02:01:36,027 Speaker 3: racing set to go from four o'clock this afternoon, and 2481 02:01:36,107 --> 02:01:39,227 Speaker 3: looking out onto the Wattamata Harbor here at SALGP headquarters 2482 02:01:39,267 --> 02:01:41,667 Speaker 3: at when you point, can see a number of the 2483 02:01:41,747 --> 02:01:44,907 Speaker 3: boats are making their way out there for some practice runs, 2484 02:01:45,267 --> 02:01:48,427 Speaker 3: just getting themselves ready for a four o'clock Start's going 2485 02:01:48,467 --> 02:01:52,107 Speaker 3: to be absolutely sensational viewing for the spectator craft and 2486 02:01:52,187 --> 02:01:56,027 Speaker 3: those on shore. The eight thousand seat stadium has been 2487 02:01:56,267 --> 02:01:59,267 Speaker 3: erected here and is going to be absolutely chokers today 2488 02:01:59,507 --> 02:02:03,507 Speaker 3: and tomorrow. Can see the Italian syndicate just flying past 2489 02:02:03,587 --> 02:02:08,747 Speaker 3: on their foils as I speak. It's just absolutely magnificent 2490 02:02:08,827 --> 02:02:12,467 Speaker 3: stuff here at SALGP in Auckland. Night away from three 2491 02:02:12,467 --> 02:02:13,427 Speaker 3: in Newstalk sebbe. 2492 02:02:14,827 --> 02:02:18,987 Speaker 1: We backing of Black Foils Weekend Sport with Jason Fine 2493 02:02:19,147 --> 02:02:21,787 Speaker 1: live at sale GP in Auckland and you talk at b. 2494 02:02:22,707 --> 02:02:25,467 Speaker 3: Just on six Away from three. That is pretty much 2495 02:02:25,547 --> 02:02:27,907 Speaker 3: US four weekend sport for today on day one of 2496 02:02:27,947 --> 02:02:32,027 Speaker 3: Sale GP in Auckland. We're back tomorrow between midday and 2497 02:02:32,147 --> 02:02:34,027 Speaker 3: three by which time, of course we've had have had 2498 02:02:34,107 --> 02:02:37,587 Speaker 3: three fleet races starting in around an hour or so, 2499 02:02:38,147 --> 02:02:41,587 Speaker 3: So review what happens on day one and look ahead 2500 02:02:41,667 --> 02:02:44,747 Speaker 3: to day two on the guest list tomorrow, we lead 2501 02:02:44,787 --> 02:02:47,387 Speaker 3: off after midday with Sir Russell Coots ready looking forward 2502 02:02:47,387 --> 02:02:49,867 Speaker 3: to chatting to him. Actually, his son is on the 2503 02:02:49,907 --> 02:02:52,827 Speaker 3: show tomorrow as well, because he's a fairly handy sailor 2504 02:02:52,867 --> 02:02:56,987 Speaker 3: as well, a world champion no Less in the moth 2505 02:02:57,387 --> 02:03:01,387 Speaker 3: class recently mattaas Coots also on the show with us tomorrow. 2506 02:03:01,387 --> 02:03:03,747 Speaker 3: We'll get back inside the Black Foils camp with Live McKay. 2507 02:03:04,507 --> 02:03:08,387 Speaker 3: New Zealand strategist Jimmy spital Is with us tomorrow on 2508 02:03:08,547 --> 02:03:12,827 Speaker 3: the New Italian Syndicate, Andy Maloney as well, who has 2509 02:03:12,867 --> 02:03:16,667 Speaker 3: recently left the New Zealand team to link up with 2510 02:03:16,827 --> 02:03:20,107 Speaker 3: the Brazilian Syndicate, and Hannah Mills out of Team Great 2511 02:03:20,147 --> 02:03:23,067 Speaker 3: Britain as well. So an all star cast tomorrow plus 2512 02:03:23,147 --> 02:03:25,867 Speaker 3: of all all of your reflections and particularly would like 2513 02:03:25,907 --> 02:03:28,307 Speaker 3: to chat to you tomorrow if in fact you took 2514 02:03:28,347 --> 02:03:30,627 Speaker 3: in or are about to take in some of the 2515 02:03:30,787 --> 02:03:34,147 Speaker 3: action today. Thank you for tuning in. Huge thanks to 2516 02:03:34,467 --> 02:03:36,827 Speaker 3: Bevan Joe back in the Studio for producing on site 2517 02:03:36,867 --> 02:03:40,787 Speaker 3: production from Bryce and Liam. Absolutely magnificent work from you. 2518 02:03:41,307 --> 02:03:44,707 Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in the weekend collective coming up 2519 02:03:44,827 --> 02:03:47,907 Speaker 3: after three taking us out of a talking heads we 2520 02:03:47,947 --> 02:03:48,987 Speaker 3: will see tomorrow at midday. 2521 02:03:49,027 --> 02:03:49,467 Speaker 18: By fore now. 2522 02:04:14,627 --> 02:04:15,587 Speaker 2: Re o stay. 2523 02:04:18,827 --> 02:04:26,627 Speaker 22: That's animal upon the wall says the State ball. Your 2524 02:04:26,947 --> 02:04:37,707 Speaker 22: not about love. It as a die of I A 2525 02:04:37,947 --> 02:04:40,307 Speaker 22: you the color the 2526 02:04:43,027 --> 02:05:19,507 Speaker 1: N For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen 2527 02:05:19,667 --> 02:05:22,867 Speaker 1: live to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or 2528 02:05:22,987 --> 02:05:24,867 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.