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Speaker 1: Government crackdown on crime appears to be paying major dividends.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Mark's back with us. He's out of hospital.

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Speaker 1: He's been in hospital. He's been in hospital quite a lot.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think I'm breaking any secrets and telling

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Speaker 1: you that. But he's out and he's good, and he's

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Speaker 1: back with Jinny after eight o'clock. Now, the government's crackdown

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Speaker 1: on crime appears to be paying major dividends. We've got

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Speaker 1: a sixteen percent reduction in serious and persistent offending for

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Speaker 1: young people now. The target, if you remember, was fifteen

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Speaker 1: percent by twenty twenty nine, so they've beaten it by

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Speaker 1: four years. Karen Shaw's the Minister for Children and is

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Speaker 1: back with us. Karen, very good morning.

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Speaker 2: To you morning. How's it going very well?

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Speaker 1: Indeed, are you four years early because you made up

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Speaker 1: some random number to make yourself look good or is

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Speaker 1: this actually really good news?

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Speaker 2: This is actually really good news. We've been tracking it

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Speaker 2: quite closely and making sure that this is a trend

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Speaker 2: of going down and it's not just a blip. And

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Speaker 2: now we know for sure at the sixteen percent mark,

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Speaker 2: we know for sure that we're on the right track

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Speaker 2: and it's heading downwards, and this represents less victims than

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Speaker 2: our community you might. So it's a positive for everyone,

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Speaker 2: each and every one of these young people that's no

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Speaker 2: longer offending. It is no longer hurting or harming someone

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Speaker 2: in our community. The harm is no less painful for

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Speaker 2: the victim. If it's a fourteen year old or a

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Speaker 2: twenty five year old, callting that harm. And so we're

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Speaker 2: sending a clear message that this is not okay, and

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Speaker 2: it's getting out there.

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Speaker 1: How have you done it? And with who? I mean,

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Speaker 1: why are they not reoffending all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Some of it is young people no longer believe that

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Speaker 2: they can avoid this accountability. I'm hearing it all across

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Speaker 2: our communities that they know that there's going to be

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Speaker 2: consequences if that court. Other parts of it are better

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Speaker 2: coordination between courts, autoing a tamariki and police. And then

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Speaker 2: we've taken some of the learnings from the military style

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Speaker 2: academy pilot and put better investment into transitional support for

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Speaker 2: young offenders coming out of youth justice. And we're investing

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Speaker 2: in a number of safety and quality improvements to facilities

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Speaker 2: and you've justice residences. So there's a lot of work

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Speaker 2: that's been going on in the background, all around rehabilitation

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Speaker 2: and making sure we helping these young people be the

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Speaker 2: best versions of themselves. This is good for them and

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Speaker 2: it's good for our community.

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Speaker 1: So sixteen percent is that low hanging fruit? Is there

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Speaker 1: more where this came from?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, We're not going to stop here. This is

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Speaker 2: just really where we're on the trajectory of tackling this

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Speaker 2: and I'm really proud of the work that has been

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Speaker 2: done by the teams across all our agencies to accomplish this.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic Karen, good to catch up with you appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much. Karen, Sure, sixteen percent reduction. They said they

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Speaker 1: do fifteen by twenty twenty nine. They've done sixteen by

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Can't argue with that.

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Speaker 2: Can you?

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