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Speaker 1: Ever due for Sea Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Now Otago Regional Council has been forced been forced to

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Speaker 2: postpone its land and Water plan after a last minute

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Speaker 2: law changed by the government. Federated Farmers had raised this

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Speaker 2: with us actually a long time ago. They were really

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Speaker 2: worried about this. Several aspects of the plan the group

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Speaker 2: didn't like. The Government had been asking Otago Regional Council

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Speaker 2: just to hold fire on the plan because they were

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Speaker 2: coming up with a new National policy statement for freshwater management.

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Speaker 2: But after the council continued just carried on working on

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Speaker 2: the plan anyway, the government amended the Resource Minute Management

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Speaker 2: Act to force them to stop. Luke Kine, as Federated

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Speaker 2: Farmer's Otago President, he joins me, Now, hey, Luke, why

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Speaker 2: was it that Otago Regional Council was ignoring the government

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Speaker 2: and just carrying on.

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Speaker 1: Oh? Look, realistically, you'd have to ask a few of

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Speaker 1: those councilors why they were so adamant. But it appears

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Speaker 1: that they had far more alignment with the previous government

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Speaker 1: than the current one.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see, well, that explains a lot. But they

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Speaker 2: had been warned, right, they had been told by the

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Speaker 2: current government, don't do anything. We're going to amend the thing.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a change for you just don't don't

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Speaker 2: do it, and they carre it on anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well and that's exactly right. And to be fear,

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Speaker 1: common sense just wasn't. Wasn't there a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of this planning and procedure was certainly not in

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Speaker 1: place to even let the plan note for it.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys have to lobby the current government to

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Speaker 2: gazette to force their hand.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we did it. And actually, to be perfectly honest

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Speaker 1: to you, you were one of the first kind of

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Speaker 1: news outlets that picked this up. And we'd have to

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Speaker 1: thank you and all the Tiger farmers would have to

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Speaker 1: thank you and your radio show for you know, spreading

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Speaker 1: this far and wide, which helped give us a voice

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Speaker 1: and raising our concerns.

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Speaker 2: What was it that you you're welcome, by the way,

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Speaker 2: What was it that you were worried about? In particular?

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Speaker 1: Originally it was around their interpretation for tomato to why

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the stock exclusion where the counselors

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Speaker 1: were heading in was a very drastic measure and not

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Speaker 1: science based and not practical by any means. So we

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Speaker 1: just thought they needed to halt and let the policy

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Speaker 1: changes take place then and then we'll reassess with it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have talked a bit of a

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Speaker 2: fair bit about stock exclusion. Is that stock exclusion from waterways?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were going to go well and over

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Speaker 1: and above the national regulations and bringing sheep includers into

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Speaker 1: that stock conclusion, which was just yeah, becoming real untenable

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Speaker 1: as to the cost effectiveness of doing it. Like the

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Speaker 1: Farmer's by all means, there's a lot of good work

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Speaker 1: going on and we don't want to pollute the waterways

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Speaker 1: by any means, but they're having blanket rules doesn't almost

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Speaker 1: fix any problems.

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Speaker 2: So how long before we actually get the current government's plan?

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Speaker 1: From my understanding, their fairway through this. The timeline has

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Speaker 1: been pushed out a year or that thirteen months, but

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Speaker 1: signals are that within the next six months will have

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Speaker 1: a pretty good indication of where the stuff's going to go.

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Speaker 1: The final detail might not be there yet, but the

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Speaker 1: plan can then be adjusted and we can move Oneah, good.

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Speaker 2: Luck with it, hey, Luke, thank you, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: That's Luke Caine, Federated Farmer as a TIGO president

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