1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,413 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,653 --> 00:00:14,653 Speaker 2: Be time to catch up with our cook, Nikki Wicks. 4 00:00:14,693 --> 00:00:16,213 Speaker 2: Who's with us this morning, Kilda? 5 00:00:16,773 --> 00:00:17,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning Jack. 6 00:00:17,973 --> 00:00:20,293 Speaker 2: How are you? I'm very well? Thank you? You are? 7 00:00:20,733 --> 00:00:24,413 Speaker 2: You are at an almighty celebration, an unrivaled celebration today. 8 00:00:24,533 --> 00:00:26,973 Speaker 2: You are at meat Stock. 9 00:00:27,653 --> 00:00:32,133 Speaker 3: I'm at moot Stock. More of them. I'm probably, to 10 00:00:32,293 --> 00:00:34,893 Speaker 3: be honest, more of a Woodstock girl, but I am 11 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:38,373 Speaker 3: at meat Stock. It's a huge celebration that they have. 12 00:00:38,493 --> 00:00:40,373 Speaker 3: This is the second year in New Zealand, down in 13 00:00:41,093 --> 00:00:45,253 Speaker 3: Mystery Creek down here by Hamilton, and a huge celebration 14 00:00:45,373 --> 00:00:48,853 Speaker 3: of barbecue culture, live music, butchery schools, a whole lot. 15 00:00:49,413 --> 00:00:51,853 Speaker 3: And it's hilarious because there's all these pitmasters. But I'm 16 00:00:51,893 --> 00:00:56,493 Speaker 3: actually down here with a crew from cross Ray Barbecues, 17 00:00:56,533 --> 00:01:00,493 Speaker 3: which are infra red gas bed bar and so it's 18 00:01:00,573 --> 00:01:03,653 Speaker 3: kind of I wouldn't say I'm a pariah there. That 19 00:01:03,733 --> 00:01:05,853 Speaker 3: would be too strong, right, But I've got all of 20 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:08,173 Speaker 3: these sort of the boys who are throwing, you know, 21 00:01:08,213 --> 00:01:09,653 Speaker 3: all sorts of things on their. 22 00:01:09,533 --> 00:01:11,253 Speaker 2: Butt on the fire. 23 00:01:11,613 --> 00:01:13,013 Speaker 3: I'm popping on the gas. 24 00:01:13,133 --> 00:01:14,093 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll tell you what. 25 00:01:14,133 --> 00:01:17,093 Speaker 3: They were very impressed with myself, my chocolate self sourcing 26 00:01:17,813 --> 00:01:19,613 Speaker 3: thing that I cracked out yesterday. 27 00:01:20,093 --> 00:01:22,773 Speaker 2: You go, so it just add of interest. Well, what 28 00:01:22,773 --> 00:01:29,093 Speaker 2: what like? Because obviously, like you know, barbecuing and pit 29 00:01:29,293 --> 00:01:31,493 Speaker 2: culture is going through a bit of a period at 30 00:01:31,493 --> 00:01:33,413 Speaker 2: the moment. But you know, there's all sorts of different 31 00:01:33,413 --> 00:01:35,773 Speaker 2: gadgets and things you can buy. But what doesn't infrared 32 00:01:35,933 --> 00:01:37,173 Speaker 2: barbecue allow you to do? 33 00:01:37,853 --> 00:01:40,373 Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing. It's it's what it is it's great 34 00:01:40,373 --> 00:01:43,373 Speaker 3: for the environment because it uses it is by LPG, 35 00:01:43,533 --> 00:01:46,133 Speaker 3: so it's dead by LPG, but it heats up these 36 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:51,613 Speaker 3: ceramic plates then push out this infrared heat, so it's 37 00:01:51,693 --> 00:01:55,453 Speaker 3: intense heat. And I mean it's extraordinary. I used it 38 00:01:55,493 --> 00:01:59,053 Speaker 3: yesterday as a pizza oven as well, and so and 39 00:01:59,093 --> 00:02:01,493 Speaker 3: it takes less time to you know, to heat up 40 00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:06,933 Speaker 3: and uses about fifty percent less LPG. Really great, I 41 00:02:06,973 --> 00:02:07,533 Speaker 3: love it. Yeah. 42 00:02:07,573 --> 00:02:09,613 Speaker 2: So how hot would you how hot would it get? 43 00:02:10,013 --> 00:02:11,093 Speaker 3: Oh? Three fifteen? 44 00:02:11,173 --> 00:02:14,293 Speaker 2: Oh wow? Okay, yeah, I struggle to get my barbecue 45 00:02:14,293 --> 00:02:15,533 Speaker 2: over about two hundred degrees? 46 00:02:15,973 --> 00:02:17,813 Speaker 3: Oh no, And it's such a shame to thing. You 47 00:02:17,813 --> 00:02:19,133 Speaker 3: have to have a pizza oven as well. 48 00:02:19,213 --> 00:02:22,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 49 00:02:22,053 --> 00:02:25,333 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed. It becomes my total outdoor kitchen during summer. 50 00:02:25,413 --> 00:02:28,253 Speaker 3: So I'm loving it. It's actually great, it's fantastic. It's 51 00:02:28,253 --> 00:02:31,333 Speaker 3: good festival. So today I will be slinging quite a 52 00:02:31,373 --> 00:02:35,893 Speaker 3: lot of sort of beautiful pork with crackling and rotisserie 53 00:02:36,013 --> 00:02:37,813 Speaker 3: chickens and all that sort of thing, as well as 54 00:02:37,853 --> 00:02:40,453 Speaker 3: my black green chop that self sourcing pudding. But I'll 55 00:02:40,453 --> 00:02:45,333 Speaker 3: also be using lamb today because today is New Zealand's 56 00:02:45,413 --> 00:02:47,733 Speaker 3: National Lamb Day of February. 57 00:02:47,773 --> 00:02:51,573 Speaker 2: Every year that does that deliberately coincide with meat stock. 58 00:02:52,213 --> 00:02:53,573 Speaker 3: I don't know if it does or not. 59 00:02:53,813 --> 00:02:56,253 Speaker 2: I'm sure someone in the meat community will be able 60 00:02:56,293 --> 00:02:59,453 Speaker 2: to come back to us on that someone today. 61 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:02,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love it. It's nice the anniversary of 62 00:03:02,733 --> 00:03:07,973 Speaker 3: the first frozen lamb shipment that off from Port Charmers 63 00:03:08,693 --> 00:03:13,213 Speaker 3: to London in eighteen eighty two, and that really changed 64 00:03:13,253 --> 00:03:14,693 Speaker 3: things for New Zealand. 65 00:03:14,373 --> 00:03:18,253 Speaker 2: Yet transformed our economy. Yeah, totally, absolutely transformed New Zealand's 66 00:03:18,333 --> 00:03:19,773 Speaker 2: history really good. 67 00:03:19,853 --> 00:03:21,613 Speaker 3: Actually, just as we said that, it gave me gave 68 00:03:21,653 --> 00:03:24,293 Speaker 3: me shivers because it really did. You know, our lamb 69 00:03:24,293 --> 00:03:26,013 Speaker 3: could then get to the rest of the world just 70 00:03:26,093 --> 00:03:29,013 Speaker 3: by technology catching up and I'm being able to send 71 00:03:29,053 --> 00:03:32,933 Speaker 3: off frozen lambs. So look, I've got a beautiful, beautiful recipe. 72 00:03:32,973 --> 00:03:35,573 Speaker 3: This is off so good. So look, you could use 73 00:03:35,653 --> 00:03:37,893 Speaker 3: what I love about this is it's really about the marinade. 74 00:03:37,933 --> 00:03:40,173 Speaker 3: And you can use any cut of land you like. 75 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:44,773 Speaker 3: You could use lambscakes, loin chops, shoulder toops, probably maybe 76 00:03:44,773 --> 00:03:47,693 Speaker 3: on a slower cock. And also you could use a 77 00:03:47,693 --> 00:03:50,493 Speaker 3: butterflied leg of lamb, which I just adore. And you 78 00:03:50,533 --> 00:03:52,733 Speaker 3: can get your butcher to bone that that out for you. 79 00:03:52,813 --> 00:03:54,933 Speaker 3: If you just take that bone out and you've got 80 00:03:54,933 --> 00:03:57,893 Speaker 3: this beautiful leg of lamb that takes part the time 81 00:03:57,933 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 3: to cook. Here's the marinate. It's last quince season, Jack. 82 00:04:03,413 --> 00:04:07,253 Speaker 3: I discovered that quince and lamb are really good mates. 83 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:11,853 Speaker 3: So my marinade has got a huge, big dollop of 84 00:04:11,933 --> 00:04:14,653 Speaker 3: quince paste in it. Now. Look, if you can't find that, 85 00:04:14,813 --> 00:04:17,453 Speaker 3: I'm telling you apricot jam will work just as well. 86 00:04:18,093 --> 00:04:20,333 Speaker 3: It's got the sort of tartness and the sweetness that 87 00:04:20,373 --> 00:04:25,453 Speaker 3: you need. But quince paste beautiful, A big large tablespoon 88 00:04:25,493 --> 00:04:28,973 Speaker 3: maybe even two of store bought horrifica harriss, is that 89 00:04:29,173 --> 00:04:35,053 Speaker 3: beautiful spicy spicy spice max from that's made into a 90 00:04:35,133 --> 00:04:39,613 Speaker 3: paste from Middle East regions really and it's absolutely beautiful. 91 00:04:39,933 --> 00:04:42,533 Speaker 3: Four cloves of garlic. You could crush those or I 92 00:04:42,573 --> 00:04:45,573 Speaker 3: actually grape them on a little microplane. Saves you're peeling 93 00:04:45,653 --> 00:04:47,893 Speaker 3: it because the peel sort of gets left in your hands, 94 00:04:48,253 --> 00:04:50,053 Speaker 3: and you can just grape the flesh of the garlic 95 00:04:50,093 --> 00:04:54,213 Speaker 3: in there. One read onion finally dies that. Two tablespoons 96 00:04:54,213 --> 00:04:57,413 Speaker 3: of vinegar, so here, we've got something to offset that sweetness. 97 00:04:57,653 --> 00:05:00,453 Speaker 3: Also help to break down the lamb and the marinating. 98 00:05:00,893 --> 00:05:03,093 Speaker 3: You could use lemon juice for that, that's fine. Two 99 00:05:03,133 --> 00:05:06,893 Speaker 3: tablespoons of olive oil, nice big teaspoon of seasole in there, 100 00:05:07,413 --> 00:05:09,733 Speaker 3: and just mix all of that together and you've got 101 00:05:09,733 --> 00:05:15,053 Speaker 3: this beautiful, vibrant looking sort of orangey. Marinate and then 102 00:05:15,293 --> 00:05:18,413 Speaker 3: smother your lamb whatever cut you're using with that. Leave 103 00:05:18,453 --> 00:05:20,693 Speaker 3: it over nice if you can. I always read that 104 00:05:20,773 --> 00:05:23,533 Speaker 3: in recipe, so Jack and I'm sort of fifteen minutes 105 00:05:23,573 --> 00:05:26,173 Speaker 3: before I want to cook it. You can also just 106 00:05:26,213 --> 00:05:31,373 Speaker 3: marinate for fifteen minutes heat, have a barbecue hot plate 107 00:05:32,093 --> 00:05:34,933 Speaker 3: to about medium, throw your lamb on that, baste it 108 00:05:34,973 --> 00:05:38,613 Speaker 3: with any excess. Marinate as it cooks. There's a lot 109 00:05:38,613 --> 00:05:40,973 Speaker 3: of sugar in the marinate, so we'll have a tendency 110 00:05:41,053 --> 00:05:43,773 Speaker 3: to have a little bit of charring in places, which 111 00:05:43,813 --> 00:05:48,693 Speaker 3: I don't mind, and just cook that. Whatever your lamb is, 112 00:05:48,853 --> 00:05:50,133 Speaker 3: it's going to time. I'm not going to give you 113 00:05:50,133 --> 00:05:52,253 Speaker 3: a cooking time here because it will depend on which 114 00:05:52,253 --> 00:05:55,453 Speaker 3: cut you're using. But you'll just find this icy and 115 00:05:55,533 --> 00:05:58,493 Speaker 3: beautiful and sort of five minutes before you think your 116 00:05:58,573 --> 00:06:01,573 Speaker 3: lamb is ready, give it that final base which will 117 00:06:01,573 --> 00:06:03,813 Speaker 3: be just enough to cook that marinate and it goes 118 00:06:03,813 --> 00:06:06,933 Speaker 3: all jammy. Serve it with a beautiful, big soul, maybe 119 00:06:06,973 --> 00:06:12,373 Speaker 3: some cousscourse, maybe a scatter of coriander, splashy yogurt on there. Honestly, 120 00:06:12,493 --> 00:06:13,973 Speaker 3: it's absolutely fantastic. 121 00:06:14,253 --> 00:06:17,853 Speaker 2: That sounds superb sounds absolutely delicious. Yeah, okay, that's definitely 122 00:06:17,893 --> 00:06:20,693 Speaker 2: one for me. Thank you so much, and have a 123 00:06:20,773 --> 00:06:24,093 Speaker 2: wonderful time with all of all your mates at Meatstock, 124 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:29,053 Speaker 2: won't you. We'll catch you next week, NICKI thank you. 125 00:06:29,093 --> 00:06:31,213 Speaker 2: We'll make sure that marinade recipe is up and available 126 00:06:31,253 --> 00:06:33,133 Speaker 2: on the news talks. He'd be website as well. You 127 00:06:33,133 --> 00:06:35,533 Speaker 2: know where to go news talks. 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