1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty find your 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: one of a Kind. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Frie Sherson of Sheerson Willis PR's on the huddle with 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: us and Josi Bigani, the CEO of Child Fund. Hi 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: you too, Hello, Hello Tris. Do you like this policy? 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: Yes? I do like this policy. I think we've got 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: to do something differently, and I do not like the 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 3: thought of increasing numbers of younger people being left on 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: the scrap heap. I think it is going to be 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: tough for families, and let's be honest, this will hit 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: hardest families who are probably already really under pressure, So 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: that's really tough. And we also have to be honest 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 3: about the fact that these families probably there is a 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: cohort of them who are into multi generational dependency on 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: a benefit. So breaking that cycle isn't easy because neither 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: the parents the kids have role modeling on you know, 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: what it's like to go to work and what's needed. 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: And I also think that schools really have to play 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: a part because a big problem is you've got kids 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: coming out of schools they have just not been able 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 3: to succeed in that system, and they already come out 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: feeling like losers frankly, which isn't and that's through no 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: fault of their own. But it's not a great way 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: to start. But we can't keep going down this route. 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: And what we need to make sure is there is 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: a really clear bridge for these kids from school into 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: training into educational opportunities, and that there is the money 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: there to do it, because I know, you know, I've 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 3: got a daughter who's university age. A lot of kids 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: when they're trying to pay their own way through university, 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: even with allowances and things like that, it is bloody tough, 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: so you know, and they don't get as much support 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: as if they were on the doll. 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Quite fairly, that's true, And I was thinking about this actually, Josie, 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: I think there are no perfect solutions here, right, So 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: what it could potentially do is drive up crime as 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: kids just go Jesus is too tough. I can't get 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: a job, it's too hard to study. I'm just going 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: to go join a gang or whatever. Would the solution 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: to this not be here's your stick, you can't get 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: the doll, but also an incentive will make it easier 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: for you to study. 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the more eighteen year olds, nineteen year olds 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: getting a skill studying. If they need to study, that's great. 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm just not sure if this isn't a policy in 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: search of a problem. The biggest problem in New Zealand 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: is not we've got that we've got too many eighteen 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: year old drop kicks living with their parents. I mean, yes, 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 4: there has always been a benefit dependency issue, which is 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: a slightly different issue, and there are some families and 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: you know, been on the doll for generations. But I 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: don't think it just feels to me like this is 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: something where they've gone, right, let's announce something after cabinet 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: and it's yet another announcement where you're going, oh, do 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: do we have a massive. 56 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: Prover you disagree with you. Look, you know, I've got 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: no time for this government and their announcements of announcements, 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: but I actually disagree with you on this and that 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: I think it's part of a suite of things that 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: Louise Upston is doing. The only thing that's maybe slightly 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: cynical here is that they've re announced it by bringing 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: it forward slightly. But she's actually doing that good work. 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, but also you have to look at the way 64 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 4: that the economy is structured in a way that both 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: national and labor governments have run the economy in this sense. 66 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: So let's say every one of those eighteen nineteen year 67 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: olds went and got a PhD, you would still have 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: about four to five percent unemployment because if it drops 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: below that, the way that our government's subsequent governments run 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: the economy is that they'll put interest rates up. The 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: Reserve Bank will put interest rates up because they think 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: that's a sign that the economy is overheating. So you're 73 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: probably always going to have about four to five percent unemployment. 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: So all you're doing is going We're going to punish 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: eighteen to nineteen year olds who are living at home, 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: and more to the point, punish the parents who already 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: having to buy them a house, will help them buy 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: a house and do everything. You know, and you're on 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: an income of sixty five k a year. That is 80 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: bugger all. So it just seems to me a problem, 81 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: a policy in search of a problem that we don't 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: That isn't the biggest problem. It's not going to grow 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: the New Zealand economy had there, and that's the biggest 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: problem I've got, right. 85 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure that's what it's about. 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: I think it's about looking at changing the incentives for 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: young people and basically saying that it's there is not 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: a pathway where you can just not get what education 89 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: and then just go on the doll and I think 90 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: that is that is fair. The areas that I worry about, 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: and this is growing up in a small town where 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: I did in Tomina Nui, where options are really limited 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: for kids and even really simple things that you need 94 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: to go to work, ie getting a driver's life since 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: and there have been changes around this, but even the 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: cost of that and the time now takes, like to 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: get your kids a driver's license these days you need 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: at least one parent who is into it. You've got 99 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: a registered and warranted car. This is you right, Well 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't, but my husband was amazing at teaching the kids. 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: But that is our hours and months, and then you 102 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: have to pay for the defense of driving and all 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: of that stuff. And I think we have to really 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: understand at a very granular level what the barriers are 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: to these kids getting a job, and not least of 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: which what home environment that have they got that helps 107 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: them get out, get up, get out of bed in 108 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: the morning, get a kai in the tummy and go 109 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: out and do what you need. 110 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Basically talking about social investment here. Aren't you getting in 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: there really early? We'll take a break, guys, and we'll 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: come back and talk about the protesters. An adrianaw is money. 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: leader and luxury real estate. 115 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Right, you're back of the huddle. You got Tresure and Josephcganey. Now, Joseph, 116 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: what do you think of those protests as turning up 117 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: at Winston Peter's house. 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty ugly, isn't it. I mean, you can protest, 119 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 4: there's nothing against you protesting, but when you're protesting at 120 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 4: someone's home, it's bordering on illegal already. I mean, if 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: you were to cross the border into the driveway or 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: you know, hover around their front door or something like that, 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: you're getting into harassment and trespassing. But I also think 124 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: it's a sign of where our politics have gone. There's 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: a kind of movement away from a contest of ideas 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: where you can debate things and you can disagree, even 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: even loudly and rudely, but it's become about personality, So 128 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: it's like you're a bad person, you're a good person. 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: And that's really unhealthy because then you have this complete 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: inability to even debate something because they're going, no, we're 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: going to target you personally. And I do think it's 132 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: that kind of you know, we saw Justin duns made 133 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: a career post politics out of this. It's the sort 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: of how do you make people feel is the reason 135 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: for politics rather and what do you do? And I 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: think I think it's just another sign of that. And 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: the other thing I would say is it shows also 138 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: there's a kind of lack of curiosity amongst the protesters 139 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: over Gaza and Palestine to engage with anything that's contrary 140 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: to their own views of what's happening and what to do. 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: And there's a whole you know, peace process that's that's 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: been put forward. Whatever you think of it, it's our 143 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: best chance of stopping the violence. And there was a 144 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: journalist from The Times in London who went to the 145 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: demonstration yesterday in Trafalgar Square and he tried to engage 146 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: with people about you know, what do you think about 147 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: this proposal with Tony Blair and Trump? Okay, you don't 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: like Trump, but maybe it will work. You know, there 149 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: are eight Muslim countries in the region who are supporting it. 150 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: What do you think wouldn't even engage in it. Protesters 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: didn't want to know about it. They kicked them out, 152 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: They basically shoved them away. So I think it just 153 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: shows you a dangerous kind of protesting where you're not 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: engaging with anything that you disagree with, and you're making 155 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: it really, really personal, and it's pretty ugly. 156 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they need to stop Trish. I think 157 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: they run. They are not drawing attention to Gaza. They 158 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: are only making people cross at what they're doing, and 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: they're risking good will, aren't they. 160 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's performative, isn't it that total? That's really what 161 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: this is about. It's like everything, it's driven for clicks 162 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: and views on social media. I know people who live 163 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: in the street and this has been going on for 164 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: months and months. It really has I think it's completely 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: wrong and I think what these groups I agree with 166 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: what Josie has just said, but I think what these 167 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: groups also underestimate is that one day there will be 168 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: a lunatic in one of those groups that they bring 169 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: along and they will do something really stupid and that 170 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: is a line in New Zealand that we absolutely don't 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: want to cross. And whatever you think about New Zealand politicians, 172 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: they deserve and their families deserve to feel safe like 173 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: everybody else. So I think this absolutely has to stop. 174 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: And if you think that protesting outside the House of 175 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: the Foreign Minister in New Zealand is in any way 176 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: going to change what's happening in Gaza or what will 177 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: happening or what will happen, you are absolutely barking up 178 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: the wrong Traluded. 179 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: Can I just say one thing that the other day 180 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: when I was walking to the studio to come and 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: do a huddle, I walked past TV and Z and 182 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: there's a huge banner out there. There was a Palestine 183 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: protest out there and the huge banner said New Zealand 184 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: media stop committing genocide. And I was thinking, what do 185 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: you think the New Zealand media are doing? Like the 186 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: Newsila media are reporting on stuff, they're not actually dropping 187 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: bombs on Gaza. So I think people, you know, are 188 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: kind of going, hold on, guys, what are you actually 189 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: asking the New Zealand government to do here that it 190 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: isn't already doing? And you know, if there's a chance 191 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: of peace, which I think the biggest chance you've gotten 192 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: it may fail dismally. Is the peace deal that's on 193 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: the table because it has the support of Muslim countries 194 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: in the region and Palestinians, the Palestinian authority as well. 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: It's the best chance of leading to a Palestinian state, 196 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: So you know, why not engage with that? 197 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 198 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: Right, okay, Now trah Adriana's got four hundred and sixteen 199 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: smackers coming at him. 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, it's a lot of money, 201 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: isn't it. There's a couple of points here, so you've 202 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: talked about why have a restraint so you know who 203 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: else was going to take him? That it would cause 204 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: competitive damage to the Reserve Bank. That's one thing. There 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: is a legitimate restraint of trade around a cooling off period, 206 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: which we often talk about with ministers leaving and going lobbying. 207 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: So you might be privy to sensitive information, so you'd 208 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: have a restraint of trade to cover that. I can't 209 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: I can't see how that is applicable here, and for 210 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: someone in Adrian's role, you wouldn't go off talking about 211 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: you know, sensitive matters. The other interesting thing is you 212 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: can have a restraint, but you're not required to have 213 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: a dollar figure around us have to get paid. You don't. 214 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: It's really, let's be honest, it's shut up money, isn't it. 215 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: Well? I think the question should be asked when when 216 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: was this restraint of trade? Has it always been in 217 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: the contract and in this quantum or was it something 218 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: agreed around the time of the exit? 219 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: Very good point, I shall ask Nickola willis that okay? 220 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: Very quickly, Josie, what do you think? 221 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure what the government's doing here. If 222 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 4: you're eighteen and nineteen and you're unemployed, you're going to 223 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: have your money taken away from you now. And if 224 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: you're the Reserve Bank governor and you're unemployed, you get 225 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: four hundred k. Yeah, get your priorities right. 226 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: You're right, Gils, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Tru 227 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: Seerson and JOSEPHCGUANNEI iur huddle. 228 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: This evening for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.