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Speaker 2: It's the Racing Minister sees shutting down grayhound racing is

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Speaker 2: a matter of doing the right thing. To discuss more,

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Speaker 2: we're joined by our political editor Jason Wolves.

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Speaker 3: Good Air Boys.

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Speaker 4: So any word when this greyhound ban is going to

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Speaker 4: come into effect?

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, twenty months from now, says Winston Peters. He

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Speaker 3: needs to give the industry a little bit of time

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Speaker 3: to wind things down and to cross a few tees

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Speaker 3: and dot a few eyes. But for all intents and purposes,

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Speaker 3: this industry is dead. It will be no more from

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Speaker 3: twenty months time after these let this legislation comes in

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Speaker 3: all this band comes into force, which is essentially now,

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Speaker 3: but saying it for twenty months time, we do have

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Speaker 3: in tandem to this, some legislation going through the House

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Speaker 3: which is essentially going to make it illegal to euthanize

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Speaker 3: greyhounds racing dogs. Because this ban is coming into place,

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Speaker 3: and Peter's said that process begins today with the introduction

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Speaker 3: of the racing in this on Lawful Destruction of Specified

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Speaker 3: Greyhound's Amendment spell a bit of a mouthful.

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Speaker 5: Here's what he had to say, which we passed under

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Speaker 5: urgency to prevent the unnecessary killing of racing dogs, and

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Speaker 5: we've had the commitment of one hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 5: votes for that to happen.

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Speaker 3: So every MP in the House is alongside the Racing

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Speaker 3: Minister Winston Peters with this one and that's going to

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Speaker 3: pass through all stages of the House later today.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: According to Winston, who's just come out of a press conference,

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Speaker 3: this is something that the government has been working on

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Speaker 3: for some time.

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Speaker 5: And we are coursious to make sure that we had

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Speaker 5: all the facts. But the incidents of injuries is just unacceptable.

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Speaker 5: It's about sixty eight percent above the any acceptable benchmark

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Speaker 5: and mirrors internationally some of the records there as well,

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Speaker 5: and so in the end we have to make it

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Speaker 5: decision and we're making one.

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Speaker 3: So interestingly, he said that the racing industry, the greyhound

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Speaker 3: sector learned about this is the same time as everybody else,

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Speaker 3: so there's quite a few I mean, you could be

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Speaker 3: listening to this right now. You could be one of

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Speaker 3: the people involved in the sector and have absolutely no

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Speaker 3: idea what has happened. So yeah, that's the way that rints,

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Speaker 3: Winston rolls.

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Speaker 4: If they can't be put down, where are all these

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Speaker 4: poor unemployed dishluck is going to go?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. They're going to have to be rehomed.

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Speaker 3: And there's the government is anticipating and estimated about two

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Speaker 3: nine hundred racing greyhounds in New Zealand will have to

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Speaker 3: be taken into some loving homes because of this announcement.

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Speaker 3: So he did say that some would be going overseas

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Speaker 3: as well, but the vast majority would stay in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So if you're looking for a new fury friend, there's

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Speaker 3: going to be a lot of them on the market

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Speaker 3: coming up soon. So he's going to be working with

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Speaker 3: the SPCA and other animal charities to make sure they're

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Speaker 3: all rehomed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think Winston will get quite a better

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Speaker 2: pushback on this? Jason, He's been a champion of the

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Speaker 2: racing industry as a whole for some time.

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Speaker 3: He has, but his hands were somewhat tired. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he made the point right at the beginning that there

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Speaker 3: had been three reports into greyhound racing that essentially all

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Speaker 3: came to the same conclusion that it was dangerous for

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Speaker 3: the dogs and it was unnecessary, and he said that

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Speaker 3: this is essentially the right thing to do. One of

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Speaker 3: the questions I had was is horse racing next? And

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Speaker 3: that's what I asked Winston today.

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Speaker 5: In the horse racing industry, both of the tots and

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Speaker 5: the gulps, we have a fund and we had in

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Speaker 5: this industry as well to improve amenities to make racing safer.

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Speaker 3: So essentially he said that the horse racing industry is

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Speaker 3: actually a lot safer for various different reasons. So that

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Speaker 3: is not on the government's radar. But however, I had

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Speaker 3: to eat a little bit of a humble pie and

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Speaker 3: how I should have learned a lesson right now, but

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Speaker 3: that I've been here for about almost ten years, that

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Speaker 3: Winston is always ready to make you look a fool.

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Speaker 3: When I asked at the difference in terms of the

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Speaker 3: legislation and the specifications were between horse racing and dog racing,

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Speaker 3: have listened. Would you mind describing just a bit of

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Speaker 3: the difference between horse racing and greyhound racing in terms

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Speaker 3: of the safety aspect of it? Why is it okay

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Speaker 3: for horn's but not great?

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Speaker 5: Now, Well, they're different animals. Had you noticed that they're

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Speaker 5: totally different animals, right.

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Speaker 4: He's always ready with a quiver.

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Speaker 3: So I thought that I had asked a really ambiguous question,

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Speaker 3: but listening back, I thought it was pretty specific. So no,

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Speaker 3: if you're listening, if you're a fan of the ponies

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Speaker 3: and you're listening to the the government has no plans

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Speaker 3: to kibosh that industry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, although I mean, is it going to plicate the

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Speaker 4: animal safety people or embolden them and then they'll come

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Speaker 4: for the ponies next? That's the question, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that this would embolden them

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Speaker 3: in terms of to come after the horses. Yes, next,

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Speaker 3: But you know we've already. I mean Steve Abel from

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Speaker 3: the Green Party was actually at the press conference sitting

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Speaker 3: at the back, and the Greens came out relatively quickly

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Speaker 3: with a very press release full of praise for the

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Speaker 3: government for doing this one. So you know, the people

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Speaker 3: will be appeased for now. And I think it's probably

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Speaker 3: something that a lot of the animal rights activists. I

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Speaker 3: don't think anybody would look at them and think it's

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Speaker 3: the right time to be saying good now this one.

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Speaker 3: I think they should probably just take the time to

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Speaker 3: say this is something that should have happened for a

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Speaker 3: long time, and I'm glad the government's moving on it.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: I hope all those greyhounds find a home. I know

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Speaker 4: that Simpson's had a lot of luck with Senna's little helper.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Great dogs, Yeah, Jason, thank you very much mate. It's

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Speaker 2: a very interesting development and we look forward to more.

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