1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,319 Speaker 1: So I've got a bit of a red flag as 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: well around the government's big infrastructure plans. To build a 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, you need a lot of people. Officials 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: are suggesting about twenty five thousand extra workers. That's the 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: population of Ashburton, for goodness sake, and they're needed as 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six and other civil contractors in New Zealand. 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Phraser May is with us. Fraser, good morning to you, 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: mar Mike. 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Are you going? 10 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm very well. Indeed, how fast can you tool up? 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well that depends. Look, I mean, I think we've 12 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: just been through quite a bad patch. It's been quite 13 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: lean out there and actually a lot of businesses have 14 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: been gun scaling at the very time that we really 15 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: should have been up in training capacity to try and 16 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: build that workforce for the work that's coming up. So yeah, 17 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: I mean we're looking forward to the opportunity and I think, 18 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's good to see some indications about where 19 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: the work's coming into. 20 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: The market because it's all about pipelines, isn't it. That's 21 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: what you need. 22 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So the longer we've got prepare for that work ahead, 23 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: the easier it is to train people up and the 24 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: more skilled to be when the time comes, and it's 25 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: having those education and emigration pathways to be able to give. 26 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Us the next question, So, how does this work? How 27 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: many locals you're grabbing and training? How many people are 28 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: coming off a pipeline anyway or a job anyways? How 29 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: many you going to have to get into the country. 30 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd say that one thing is around the 31 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: education pathways and the immgration pathway. So actually, you know 32 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: the need to support So we've just been through some 33 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: vocational education reform, and you know what we'd like to 34 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: see is some more support for work based training because 35 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: that's how a lot of the people gain the skills 36 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: to be able to build the roads and put the 37 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: water pipes under the ground. So some support from IFSUS 38 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: and be able to scale up and do that would 39 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: be great. Companies do that day to day. And yeah, 40 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: we're looking forward to scale up. I mean, I guess 41 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: you know, obviously we're going to need to get a 42 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: lot of people on board if we're going to deliver 43 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: on some of the ambitious projects government's gone in the pipeline. 44 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Do you see them as real? I mean, you know, 45 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: let's not get you in trouble. But I mean, hand 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: on heart when you look at all the announcements and 47 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and you know how long it takes 48 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: to build anything in this country, do you see this 49 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: as real? 50 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Well, it depends when it's going to have the market. 51 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean, there's some pretty clear indications of what we need. 52 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we know that we need to replace a 53 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: whole bunch of pints. We know that we need to 54 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: go and build a whole bunch of roads. So yeah, 55 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean I think the question is when that work's 56 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: going to come to market. You know, we're starting to 57 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: syst and tenders come through and it has been pretty 58 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: lean out there, so you know that's the first thing. 59 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: If there's work in the market, then then enables us 60 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: to build the workforce to get the job done. 61 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Good stuff, phrasergo, well, appreciate it very much, Fraser May, 62 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: who's the super contractors in New Zealand Men. For more 63 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. 64 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 65 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.