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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Coming up today, Erica Stanford on whether she's going to

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Speaker 4: ban the smart watches and schools as well. Andrew Little

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Speaker 4: on whether he will scrap the Golden Mile project in

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Speaker 4: Wellington all together. And David Seymour on why he thinks

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Speaker 4: Winston's getting ready to switch to labor.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen, Okay, I've.

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Speaker 4: Got a possibly controversial view on standing up at a concert.

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Speaker 4: So I went to Metallica last night, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: was great, and I shouldn't have bagged them as much

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Speaker 4: as I did on the show yesterday. We were in

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Speaker 4: the stands, we had some seats. There was a guy

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Speaker 4: who was a couple of rows in front of us,

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Speaker 4: and the minute that Metallica started, this guy was up

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Speaker 4: on his feet. Everybody was sitting that he was up

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Speaker 4: on his feet. He had both hands in the air,

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Speaker 4: he was pulling the horns, he was banging his head,

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Speaker 4: he was playing the air guitar, he was singing all

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Speaker 4: the lyrics. He was just having the best night of

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Speaker 4: his life, and him having a good tie was actually

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Speaker 4: so much fun to watch. It actually made the rest

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Speaker 4: of us have a better time as well. But the

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Speaker 4: people behind him didn't love it, so they started to

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Speaker 4: throw cans at him, and the cans were hitting him

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Speaker 4: in the back and he just ignored them. And then

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Speaker 4: a couple of ladies actually like clambered over their seats

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Speaker 4: whacked him on the back, told him to sit down.

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Speaker 3: He ignored all of this, and at this point a guy.

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Speaker 4: This has been going on for a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 4: and a guy just had enough and he got out

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Speaker 4: of his seat way behind us, walked down, leaned across

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Speaker 4: the whole bunch of chairs, gone into a verbal altercation

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Speaker 4: with the headbanger, told him off, actually tried to drag

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Speaker 4: him down into his seat physically, and this went on

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Speaker 4: until the guy finally gave up and.

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Speaker 3: Just sat down.

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Speaker 4: But he couldn't help himself because he was having the

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Speaker 4: best night of his life. So every time another song started,

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Speaker 4: old Mate was back up on his feet, double horning

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Speaker 4: at it again, going for a few bars on the

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Speaker 4: air guitar, and then remembering he was supposed to sit down.

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Speaker 4: This carried on for a whole bunch of songs until

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Speaker 4: he eventually kind of took himself off to the side

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Speaker 4: able to carry on thrashing away without de disturbing all

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Speaker 4: of the nanas behind him.

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Speaker 3: But you could see it wasn't as.

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Speaker 4: Much fun because it was a much more cramp space

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Speaker 4: that he was having to push himself into.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, here's my take on it.

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Speaker 4: If you are at a concert, you should be able

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Speaker 4: to stand up and have the best time of your life,

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Speaker 4: even if you have paid for a seated ticket, And

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Speaker 4: if you are behind someone who wants to get up

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Speaker 4: and dance, you are just going to, I'm sorry, have

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Speaker 4: to get up as well. It is not okay to

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Speaker 4: ask somebody at a concert to sit down the entire time.

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Speaker 3: It's music.

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Speaker 4: It's not a movie, and it's a mesal concert. It's

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Speaker 4: not the symphony orchestra. For God's sake. I'm with the

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Speaker 4: metal head at the gig last night. He paid good

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Speaker 4: money to have a good time. If having a good

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Speaker 4: time for him means standing up with the double horns

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Speaker 4: and the ear guitar and the head banging and all

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Speaker 4: that stuff, do it either, dup se allen.

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Speaker 3: Go on there nine two nine two. That's the text number.

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Speaker 3: Standard text fees apply.

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Speaker 4: Brace yourself because we're going from one controversial thing to

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Speaker 4: the other. We're about to talk about the F word, fluoride.

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Speaker 4: I know you've got someone in your life who this

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Speaker 4: is going to freak out. There is a long term

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Speaker 4: US study which has been published that shows that fluoridated

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Speaker 4: water does not negatively impact your brain. The researchers followed

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Speaker 4: a cohort of people who were in high school in

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty all the way through to their sixties. Those

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Speaker 4: who had grown up with fluoridated water did not have

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Speaker 4: more cognitive decline than the others. Doctor Justin Waller is

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Speaker 4: a practicing dentist and with us. Now, Hi, Justin got

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Speaker 4: a right, So the settles it right, It's not bad

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Speaker 4: for your brains drink the fluoridated water.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 5: It's good news.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, yes, so it does settle it is It

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Speaker 4: is not bad for your brain.

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Speaker 5: It is not bad for your brain whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: No, but doesn't. And it's good for your cheese yep, obviously.

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Speaker 3: But doesn't settle it justin because.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, well, that is the thing. Someone will

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Speaker 5: come up with something fluoride is blamed for absolutely everything.

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Speaker 5: Would probably blame fluoride for mullet haircuts and not getting

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Speaker 5: the lotto numbers right if they could. But at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day, fluoride is very highly researched and

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Speaker 5: in every endeavor is to make sure that we understand

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Speaker 4: Listen, I've grown up in a family where my mum

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Speaker 4: used to buy me Did you ever get those when

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Speaker 4: you were those little white pills that were without fluoride

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Speaker 4: pills and they were supposed to make your teeth stronger. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and yes, So I have been munching fluoride my entire life,

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Speaker 4: which probably explains a lot about me to the anti

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Speaker 4: fluorid brigade. So I have, and this is without a

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Speaker 4: word of a lie, even in my forties. I have

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Speaker 4: no idea what the what is their problem with fluoride?

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Speaker 5: It is it's a political philosophy. It's it's nothing to

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Speaker 5: do with the fluoride per se is a group of

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Speaker 5: people who do not like to be dictated to by

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Speaker 5: somebody somebody else, particularly governments or health authorities.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do they think it's affecting their brains.

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Speaker 5: Oh, definitely. This was an argument that was put up

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Speaker 5: at the appeal against the Hamilton City Council fluoridating the

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Speaker 5: water supply. There was a tribunal and this information was

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Speaker 5: put in front of that about some spurious information or

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Speaker 5: data that came out of China and Iran that suggested

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Speaker 5: that this was the case. But it's not the case.

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Speaker 5: And you know, this has been put to bed, the

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Speaker 5: cognitive of a climb and fluoridation has been put to bed.

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Speaker 5: But there'll be something else will come up. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you can be guaranteed there'll.

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Speaker 2: Be something else.

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Speaker 3: Oh, shifting of the goalposts.

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Speaker 5: Well, just the continuation of a pushback and without people

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Speaker 5: actually saying that they don't like it, because that's the

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Speaker 5: that we shouldn't have fluoridation.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, question for you, why do we need it

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Speaker 4: in our water though, if we've already got it in

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Speaker 4: our toothpaste?

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Speaker 5: Because some people don't brush their teeth. Okay, that's the

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Speaker 5: plain and simple. Some people don't brush their teeth as

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Speaker 5: well as they should. They you know, it's either in

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Speaker 5: simple and easy. It is as I said, there's no

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Speaker 5: negative health impacts to you at all, but it is

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Speaker 5: going to protect you from dental de kay, So why wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: You Okay, listen while I've got you ten months old baby,

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Speaker 4: time to start brushing teeth.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, get them familiar with the toothbrush. Stick the toothbrush

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Speaker 5: in their mouths, but you shouldn't let them, you know,

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Speaker 5: play with the toothpaste and gobble toothpaste. Well not really,

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Speaker 5: I mean, babies like some things, but I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, but Brussels sprouts are probably better than toothpaste.

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Speaker 4: Well you know that one did just gobble down the toothpaste. Actually, listen,

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Speaker 4: Justin thanks very much appreciated. Dr Justin Wall practicing dentists. Actually, incidentally,

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Speaker 4: it's not that hard to brush the teeth of a

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you found this.

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Speaker 4: If you've got two kids, but the first one bloody

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Speaker 4: hard to get them to do it, But the second one,

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Speaker 4: they say the first on doing it, so they want

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Speaker 4: to do it too, So breeze, shove the toothbrush and

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Speaker 4: they go for it. Heather who sits down at a

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Speaker 4: Metallica concert?

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Speaker 3: Glenn. I mean that is a good question, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Who sits down at a metallic The people behind old mate,

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Speaker 4: the head thrasher, really wanted.

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Speaker 3: To sit down and sort of like this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like that that was they were going nothing else matters, yay,

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Speaker 4: you know, clapping along like a bunch of nanas. Trump

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Speaker 4: has signed the bill to release the Epstein files. This

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Speaker 4: about two thirty this afternoon. That now means that they

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Speaker 4: will be released within the next thirty days.

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Speaker 3: So follow your timeline on this.

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Speaker 4: What's what's in the next thirty what's in about thirty

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Speaker 4: dodgy in there, it's a perfect time to release it,

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Speaker 4: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Quarter past four?

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper See allan Drive full show.

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Speaker 3: Heather, you are so wrong. As seat is a seat,

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Speaker 3: It's not a place to stand up.

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Speaker 4: What if the person behind you, who would be would

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Speaker 4: was crippled. I mean, there is a question about how

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Speaker 4: Just say for the purposes of the story, somebody's crippled

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Speaker 3: David, thank you for that text. Eighteen past four sport with.

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Speaker 7: one on over there? What I'm doing all over the show?

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Speaker 7: It's getting close to the weekend.

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Speaker 7: I am over eighteen, so I'm allowed to beat responsibly

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Speaker 4: I'm so looking forward to the day when you come

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Speaker 7: and I thought that one of them was the game

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Speaker 7: on Sunday, but it wasn't. It's Auckland FC. You were

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Speaker 7: I won twenty five dollars. They always say don't bet

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Speaker 7: what you can't afford to lose.

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Speaker 3: I've got I've got no.

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Speaker 7: Money, okay, I've got had a little tiny ten so

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Speaker 7: I know everything else. I bet last week though nothing

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Speaker 7: But there's value here, right right. Listen to me like

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Speaker 7: a bookie. There's value here. There's a big fight going

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Speaker 7: on a cutter this weekend. There's UFC Sarah kan Is

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Speaker 7: taking on Hooker, the Hangman, Dan Hooker. Now he's the challenger.

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Speaker 7: Iman will be the number one contender should he go

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Speaker 7: through and win this against Torporea, who's got the title,

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Speaker 7: and you've got the hangman coming in now. Dan Hooker's

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Speaker 7: paying four dollars fifty, So that's that's pretty outside. So

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Speaker 7: you say favoritism lies with the Armenian at a dollar twenty.

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Speaker 7: we're not being dragged into it. We're actually here to

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Speaker 3: Now, Mavericks, have you got job?

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Speaker 7: And yeah, I don't. We will me come back.

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Speaker 3: But that is over.

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Speaker 7: That Northern Hemisphere is over, and the All Blacks will

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Speaker 7: It's the lid of the All Blacks coffin for the year,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, this is a fair point. Actually, thank you Darcy.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 9: Whinston Peters stitched together the deilies with us. What are

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Speaker 10: Well, look, we've got so many examples Transmission Galief, who

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Speaker 6: Some of the.

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Speaker 10: Politicians need to get out of down way and get

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Speaker 10: the right smart experience, business people, experienced chase people. They

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Speaker 9: Back tomorrow at six am. The Mike Hosking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: no one else News talk z'b.

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Speaker 4: Hey, just in case you're thinking, m I'd love to

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Speaker 4: do a Torri Fano and move to Australia. They had

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Speaker 4: three drive by shootings at Sydney last night, So Murray

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Speaker 4: Old's is going to talk us through that shortly, just

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Speaker 4: you can to reassess your life choices four to twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Gettloaded us.

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Speaker 4: By the way, though, Winston is already today promising that

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Speaker 4: he's going to repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill, which he

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Speaker 11: We did our best to neutralize its adversity effects and

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Speaker 4: So like, just so you understand how it works when

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Speaker 4: Winston voted for it. So two days ago Winston voted

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Speaker 4: he's going to repeal it. It's like a make work scheme,

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Speaker 4: isn't it. It's like one of those ones where you

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Speaker 4: then you bring that then you say to everybody, vote

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Speaker 4: Just keep doing that, have worked for life. Now, why

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Speaker 4: do you think Winston possibly wants to do this? David's

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Speaker 12: Well, it's pretty worrying because that's Labour's position. It sounds

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it? Just doesn't it?

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Speaker 4: Just now, if you've been following what's going on with

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Speaker 3: But what if Labor gets into government with wh Winston.

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Speaker 3: Winston's done, He's done it before. He's ruled out Chippy.

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Speaker 4: But don't believe that for a second. He'll go there

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Speaker 4: as quick as a flash if he has to. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to Barry Sober about that when he's with us.

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Speaker 4: Short leaves with us in about twenty minutes time. And

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Speaker 4: then also, David Seymour, it's going to be with us

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Speaker 4: after half past Never a dull day with Winston, and

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Speaker 4: is it hither I completely agree with you on standing

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Speaker 4: in concerts. It's a key we thing to sit down

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Speaker 4: games for hours and hours, and once the front does it,

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Speaker 4: everyone accepts that Howard is is how it is and

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jordan.

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Speaker 2: News is next, hard questions, strong opinion.

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Speaker 1: Hither du for cell and drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Tanda Power of satellite Mobile news Talk said, be so.

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Speaker 2: Tend seven true nobody.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Erica Stanford's going to be with us after five o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Now, this is all account of the e R O

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Speaker 4: schools is in fact lifting academic achievement.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't go far.

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Speaker 4: Enough though for the er What they now want is

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Speaker 4: bans on other devices, wearable devices like smart watches, because

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Speaker 4: the kids are still mucking around with those, aren't They're

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Speaker 4: to her when she's with us. Just after five barrisopers

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on youth talks. It'd be drive.

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Speaker 4: So Donald Trump has now signed the bill ordering the

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Speaker 4: release of the Epstein files. The files now have to

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Speaker 4: be made public within thirty days. A Democrat senator says,

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Speaker 4: the Trump administration could still try to find a way

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Speaker 13: He will use any little small piece of language from

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Speaker 4: Bombs have been falling on western Ukraine. At least twenty

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Speaker 4: six people have died in Russian strikes. Here's President Zelenski.

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Speaker 2: This is a bloody war.

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Speaker 5: We have to constantly defend ourselves from these strikes in Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: We're looking to and of course providing Ukraine with necessary

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Speaker 14: This is a challenge, it's not easy, but we do

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Speaker 3: And finally, you know the gold toilet. You've been following this.

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Speaker 4: The gold toilet has sold at auction for twenty one

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Speaker 4: toilet that was created by the artist Maritzio Katalan. The

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Speaker 4: first one was famously stolen from Blenham Palace in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Toilet number two actually only got one.

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Speaker 4: Bid when it went under the hammer in New York,

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Speaker 4: so the buyer might have been able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 15: Murray old Ossie correspondents with us A mus very good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it's just a couple of weeks, is it,

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Speaker 4: and face he's going to start kicking the kids off.

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Speaker 8: Well a little bit longer.

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Speaker 16: But in fact, the tenth of December is the date

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Speaker 16: that this ban on under sixteen's using social media comes

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Speaker 16: do this. But what the big you know, the big

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Speaker 16: social media giant MATA has done is send out a

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Speaker 16: warning letter, if you like, a warning email to all

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Speaker 16: the kids who are on these platforms. In a fortnight,

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Speaker 16: we're going to start turning off your accounts, so you

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 16: If the children want to dispute this, they have to

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Speaker 16: have facial scans or prove that they're actually sixteen or over.

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Speaker 16: Now Matters told the federal government hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 16: accounts will be removed by December the tenth. Almost every

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Speaker 16: single matter platform Heather's covered. The only exception appears to

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Speaker 16: be Messenger, but things like Facebook, Insta, threads, TikTok, Snapchat, YouTube,

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Speaker 16: of warning messages. Account Holders also being urged to provide

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Speaker 16: contact details. I mean, this is a commercial opportunity here.

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Speaker 16: Don't forget kids. When you turn sixteen, come back, give

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Speaker 16: soon as you turned sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point that you make this. What's

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Speaker 16: See how it works?

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Speaker 17: Well?

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Speaker 3: Do you are you a douter?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 16: I just want to know how on earth it's going

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Speaker 16: to be policed. I mean a mums and dad's going

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Speaker 16: to do it. They've had a pretty poor job up

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Speaker 16: to now. Mums and Dad's going to be at this

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Speaker 16: or the lawses.

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Speaker 8: Please, is that going to work?

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Speaker 16: Let's have to wait and see.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Australia is the guinea pig here.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, does it have to work one

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 16: I mean, you know the perfect count's down in the.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you see how it goes.

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Speaker 16: I'm a skeptic, but I'm not the only one too.

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Speaker 16: But let's see.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because think about it like this, smuz right,

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Speaker 4: we ban kids under the age of eighteen from buying fags.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes kids we'll manage to get the hands on fags,

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Speaker 4: and but for that we don't go all better if

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Speaker 4: that ban, then we still think it's worth the band, right,

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Speaker 4: because we.

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Speaker 8: Still think it's so true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think no, I mean, I think it

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Speaker 3: is fair to have some questions about this.

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Speaker 4: But I just wonder if we're getting tripped up a

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Speaker 4: little bit, as you say, worrying about the perfect when

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Speaker 4: we can just try the good.

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Speaker 3: Listen, tell me what's going on with these drive bys?

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Speaker 3: Do we know what's going on here?

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Speaker 8: What was another?

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Speaker 18: Well?

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Speaker 16: Last night in Sydney Southwest Sydney, there were three in

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Speaker 16: four hours, two homes and a business were shot up,

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Speaker 16: but luckily no one hurt. In one of the home shootings,

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Speaker 16: there was only one bullet. Five I say only one bullet.

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Speaker 16: I mean they're not trying hard enough. Police now investigating

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Speaker 16: whether they are linked. There were two cars set alight

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Speaker 16: in the wake of these three shootings. Now, police set

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Speaker 16: up earlier this year a special task force because basically

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Speaker 16: they've lost candle the number of shootings.

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Speaker 8: This year alone.

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Speaker 16: It's the underworld fighting each other over the drug trade.

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Speaker 16: Extremely lucrative as you might expect in the city of

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Speaker 16: five and a half six million people. People using Persian

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Speaker 16: rugs and a lot of money to be made when

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Speaker 16: you sell and distribute them. So police, you know, they

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Speaker 16: say they've got a handle on it, but gee wears

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Speaker 16: last night three and four hours certainly doesn't seem so.

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Speaker 16: The poor buggers who were copying the bullets.

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Speaker 3: Master, did you just say persian rugs?

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Speaker 16: Oh, I'm sorry, I may have done.

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Speaker 3: I mean drugs, Sorry, persian drugs. I thought, geez, the

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Speaker 3: Persian I reckon. I've got a couple under the basement,

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Speaker 3: minded to whip them out, all right?

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Speaker 4: Buzz thanks, I really, really appreciated Murray Old's Australia, corresponding, Hey,

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Speaker 4: do you know what this is fascinating? I caught up

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Speaker 4: with somebody last week for a coffee and they were

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Speaker 4: telling me that, and they showed me on the on

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Speaker 4: the Australian news media.

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Speaker 3: Some of the stuff that's going on with the fire

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Speaker 3: bombings and stuff has actually got to do with siggi's.

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Speaker 3: So there's such a massive siggy.

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Speaker 4: Black market in Australia. They're actually the gangs are actually

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Speaker 4: fighting to control the siggi's. How mental is that?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen away from five?

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Speaker 10: Ever?

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Speaker 2: Du for see Ellen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the my.

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Speaker 4: Twelve year old has recently started self harming at the

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Speaker 4: suggestion of one of her online friends. We managed to

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Speaker 4: track back all the conversations she's had with the friends

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Speaker 4: for the last four months. They were innocent and happy

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Speaker 4: until this person came along with their determination to turn

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Speaker 4: her into a very unhappy girl, which she clearly now is.

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Speaker 4: As far as I'm concerned, they cannot ban enough.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Lucy.

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Speaker 4: Now, the last Maori MP who hasn't spoken has now

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Speaker 4: broken her silence. This is hanaud ARFITTI might be Clark,

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Speaker 4: who's the youngest one you know, the one in the

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Speaker 4: Maori Party, the one who's stood up and started the

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Speaker 4: hucker and tore up the bill. She's actually remarkably mature

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Speaker 4: about what's going on in the party at the moment.

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Speaker 4: She says, both those involved on both sides of this

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Speaker 4: argument have been wrong. She says, sometimes I've wanted to

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Speaker 4: give them all a hug and are hiding. At the

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Speaker 4: same time, she seems to be refusing to pick sides

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Speaker 4: here between the leadership and between the.

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Speaker 3: Two who have been kicked out.

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Speaker 4: She says she actually does have confidence in the leadership,

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Speaker 4: and then she says, we're coming to a real tough

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Speaker 4: time where it's coming up to Christmas and people are

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Speaker 4: thinking about food, and people are thinking about grocery prices

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Speaker 4: and thinking about gas prices, and.

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Speaker 3: This is definitely not what we need. And never a

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Speaker 3: truer word has been spoken.

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Speaker 4: She's called a huei for her electorate to take place

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Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks time, and she's going to

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Speaker 4: put it to them to decide what to do. She says,

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Speaker 4: at this huei in two weeks, Hodaki waikattl will determine

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Speaker 4: my future in politics, whether I'm still the right voice

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Speaker 4: and whether this is still the right party and movement

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Speaker 4: for them.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I might not agree with her politics, but it is very,

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Speaker 4: very hard not to be impressed with her maturity, because

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Speaker 4: it must be incredibly easy, it must be incredibly tempting

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Speaker 4: to pick sides here and go along with something. But

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Speaker 4: she is not picking sides. She's seeing it for what

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Speaker 4: it is, that both sides are behaving badly, and putting

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Speaker 4: it to the very people who put her there to

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Speaker 4: decide her future. I think well done. Hannah Afati. Barry

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Speaker 4: Soaper's next seventeen Away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Here the Persian rugs is Cockney slang for drugs. Thank you. Fourteen.

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Speaker 4: I'm quite happy I didn't know that beforehand. Fourteen Away

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Speaker 4: from five Barry Soaper, Senior Political Correspondence with Us Have

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Speaker 4: Barry Good Afternoon. Audrey Young's piece No I Haven't Okay.

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Speaker 4: Audrey Young's piece title Bishop has a target on his

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Speaker 4: back and she's basically written a piece where she reckons

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Speaker 4: the reason that labor's going at him. Over that cycle

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Speaker 4: and walking Bridge and his part of the world News

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Speaker 4: is because he's the guy most likely to roll Chris Lucksen.

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Speaker 19: Interesting, that, isn't it. Unfortunately now I normally do read ordery,

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Speaker 19: but I haven't today. But look, the thing is, when

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Speaker 19: you've got a party polling like National has, and you've

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Speaker 19: got twenty first term backbenches in that party out of

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Speaker 19: forty eight MPs, you know you're going to be looking

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Speaker 19: at that polling and you're going to be saying, well,

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Speaker 19: can we last? Can we hold up the vote? And

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Speaker 19: at the moment they would the answer to that would

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Speaker 19: be no. But that's not to say that Chris Lucksen

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Speaker 19: is going.

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Speaker 2: To be rolled.

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing? Well, so I'm hearing that he is.

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Speaker 19: Well, there's certainly talk in the National Party at the

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Speaker 19: moment about Chris Luckson's leadership, and who knows, it may

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Speaker 19: come to a debate in caucus next Tuesday when they

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Speaker 19: meet in Wellington. But the views that I've had they vary.

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Speaker 19: They vary from his leadership being untenable which is one

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Speaker 19: description that was given to me, to the detractors being

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Speaker 19: steered down if it did come to that debate in caucus.

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Speaker 19: So I think my view is that this party would

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Speaker 19: be ridiculous to ditch Chris Luxen as their leader at

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Speaker 19: the moment, because you've got look at the opposition benures

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Speaker 19: and you see the Moldy Party have fallen apart and

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Speaker 19: they nowhere near back together again. Yet you see the

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Speaker 19: Greens talking about revoking licensing permits for offshore oil and whatever.

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Speaker 3: It is, and you're still a path to victory for

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Speaker 3: Labor with Winston.

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Speaker 19: Well, well no, I can't for the life of me

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Speaker 19: see Winston voting with Labor again. I think he realizes

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Speaker 19: the mistake that he made, you know, the last time

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Speaker 19: he did that with just and Dern. But my view

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Speaker 19: is that, you know, if if there was to be

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Speaker 19: a change, you've only got to think back to Jenny

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Speaker 19: Shipley rolling Jim Bolger about a year out from the

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Speaker 19: election and what happened to the National Party. Then you

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Speaker 19: could say an I could say that wasn't going, you know,

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Speaker 19: because it would have been their fourth term, so she

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Speaker 19: was ready to go anyway, and she was up against

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Speaker 19: Tallan Clark who had done her time, and yeah, well

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Speaker 19: that's right. But there is there's a lot of talk,

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Speaker 19: let's put it that way, a lot of talk within

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Speaker 19: parliamentary circles and outside as well within the business.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me what's happening on Tuesday.

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Speaker 19: Well, this, the fact that we're airing this now tends

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Speaker 19: to call discussion about the leadership, and no doubt there

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Speaker 19: will be more discussion on this, and come Tuesday, who knows,

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Speaker 19: they may have out of a showdown.

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Speaker 4: So I'm hearing that National Party MPs are very unhappy

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Speaker 4: with Chris Luxon. I'm hearing that there is now some

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Speaker 4: talk about who could be a potential replacement, but the

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Speaker 4: replacements don't have the numbers just yet.

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Speaker 19: That's Chris Bishop we're talking about here.

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Speaker 3: He will be the most likely and he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: the numbers just yet. Is that what you're hearing?

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Speaker 19: That's what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 19: And the other thing that you've got to convince, of course,

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Speaker 19: is David Seymour and Winston Peters. If they, for example,

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Speaker 19: went against any change in leadership at the top of

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Speaker 19: the National Party which would weaken their chances of getting back,

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Speaker 19: then it wouldn't happen at all because the coalition would

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Speaker 19: simply fall apart.

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Speaker 4: Okay, do you accept, though being the cheerleader for Chris Luxon,

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Speaker 4: that you are there a cheerleader for Chris Luckxon that.

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Speaker 3: He does need to lift his game. Well, no, I

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Speaker 3: think he's doing a good job.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 19: No, the thing is, Heather, if you look at what

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Speaker 19: they're what they've been confronted with when they took over

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Speaker 19: the Treasury benches, no one is going to look glowing

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Speaker 19: coming into a government like that. So I think you'll

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Speaker 19: find and as I've said on this program before, and

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Speaker 19: I'm not cheerleading for Chris, well, yes you have, and

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Speaker 19: because I don't cheer lead for any particular politician, but

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Speaker 19: certainly not Chris Luxen. But I think you'll find when

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Speaker 19: things start turning around next year, as they're showing signs

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Speaker 19: of doing now, then it'll be a very different piece.

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Speaker 4: Hey, should we talk about the Transport Minister, Well, we

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Speaker 4: have been views on the electric vehicles, Well he was.

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Speaker 19: He acknowledges fully the clean car changes to the legislation.

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Speaker 19: They were passed through Parliament today, So Chris Bishop freely

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Speaker 19: acknowledges the bottom fell out of the electric car market

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Speaker 19: after the government made these changes. Bishop flagged away criticism

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Speaker 19: from the Greens Julianne Jener, who says the scheme benefited

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Speaker 19: the wealthy who were able to go out and buy

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Speaker 19: electric cars at the experiense of mother.

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Speaker 20: That's christ Bishop was saying that farmers and tradees who

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Speaker 20: were stung with a ute tax in order to transfer

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Speaker 20: the money to largely middle and upper income consumers who

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Speaker 20: wanted to go out and buy a tesla.

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Speaker 17: That regressive, inequitable, stupid scheme this government did away with.

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Speaker 11: Does his government have an active policy to transition its

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Speaker 11: own fleet by prioritizing the purchase of electric vehicles and if.

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Speaker 5: Not, why not?

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Speaker 17: The government's focus is not on transitioning its own fleet

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Speaker 17: to electric vehicles. This government's focus, as that member should know,

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Speaker 17: is on cost effective solutions and value for money.

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Speaker 3: There you go ruined my day. I forgot about Julianne

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Speaker 3: and my day is.

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Speaker 19: That's what I'm very head insult to injury.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate a very so for senior political correspondent eight

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Speaker 4: away from five hither barriers dreaming Winston is going back

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Speaker 4: to labor. National is doomed with their voter base if

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Speaker 4: they don't replace Luxeon with Bishop. Winston won't want Bishop

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Speaker 4: because he will be cast into the shade. That's actually

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Speaker 4: a fair point. Well, I mean all of that is

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Speaker 4: a fair point. I do believe that Winston's not stupid.

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Speaker 4: He knows that his best leverage is when he can

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Speaker 4: go with both sides, so get ready for that. Also,

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Speaker 4: nobody in the coalition, like Winston and David Seymour, will

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Speaker 4: not want a change of leadership with National because let's

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Speaker 4: be frank about it, right, Luxon is and I really

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Speaker 4: like the guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a nice guy.

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Speaker 4: He's not very good at the job, is he. And

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Speaker 4: because he's not very good at the job, the National

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Speaker 4: Party voters going down, isn't it. When it goes down,

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Speaker 4: it also bleeds.

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Speaker 3: Yes, some of it bleeds to Labor, but some of

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Speaker 3: it bleeds to the Act Party and some of it

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Speaker 3: bleeds to the New Zealand First Party. And look at

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Speaker 3: our New Zealand First is doing in the bowls. They'll

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Speaker 3: be stoked.

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Speaker 4: Both of them will be like, absolutely, you should keep

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Speaker 4: luxon because it keeps their voter up.

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Speaker 3: This is what Audrey's written.

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Speaker 4: It was perhaps no coincidence that the target of Labour's

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Speaker 4: attacks this week in a full court Press was Chris Bishop,

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Speaker 4: the National Minister considered one of the strongest contenders for

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Speaker 4: leadership should Luxeen's leadership fail. The most interesting thing about

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Speaker 4: the c Grade scandalet was that Labour decided to run

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Speaker 4: the risk of looking opposed to a popular and long

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Speaker 4: awaited project in Malling in order to discredit Bishop on

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Speaker 4: fairly flimsy grounds. Now, I think you know Audrey's right

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Speaker 4: about most things. So Audrey's bang on Chris Bishop is

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Speaker 4: the guy. If it happens he actually happens to be

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Speaker 4: with us after six o'clock on roads of national significance,

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Speaker 4: So a might am I just throw him a question

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Speaker 4: or two on that? And then David Seymour on the

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Speaker 4: business about Winston potentially going with Labor. He's with us

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Speaker 4: after half past five. Wellington, jeez, it's good days for

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Speaker 4: it like Wellington. Do you look out the window and

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Speaker 4: think sunny days?

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Speaker 3: Because you must be like Tori's out toys. Even off

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Speaker 3: to Melbourne now and now the good news is the

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Speaker 3: Golden Mile has been paused. Now the Golden Mile, because

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Speaker 3: that's going to just be a blight on the city.

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Speaker 3: The Golden Mile was supposed to cost seventy eight million

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Speaker 3: dollars back in twenty twenty. It will not surprise you

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Speaker 3: at all to find out it's blown out again today

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Speaker 3: to two hundred and twenty million, so from about eighty

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Speaker 3: mili to says what it's it's tripled, is tripled, from

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Speaker 3: eighty mil to twenty to twenty. Anyway, they voted to

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Speaker 3: pause it. Pause comes before a cut.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to the new.

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Speaker 4: Mayor Andrew a little about that very shortly just after

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Speaker 4: five and see if that is on the cards.

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Speaker 3: Erica Stanford's next news talks b.

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Speaker 2: What You'll do? No, won't you?

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Speaker 6: In your.

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Speaker 2: Join good? The only show you can try.

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Speaker 1: The truant to ask the questions, get the answers, find

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Speaker 1: the sack and give the analysis. Here the duplicy ell

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Speaker 1: and drive with one New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 1: satellite mobile new dogs.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good afternoon. Surprise, surprise.

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Speaker 4: The cell phone ban in our school is a success

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Speaker 4: and Education Review Office report shows the ban has improved

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Speaker 4: academic achievement and reduced bullying, and the er now wants

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Speaker 4: the government to go further and ban even more devices.

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Speaker 4: Erica Stanford is the Education Minister. High Erica, Hello, hi you,

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Speaker 4: I'm well thank you. Would you consider banning the wearables

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Speaker 4: like the smart watchers.

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Speaker 18: We're certainly going to take Erro's recommendations into account and

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Speaker 18: I'll get the ministry it could be some advice, but

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Speaker 18: I certainly think we probably do need to go further.

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Speaker 18: But that'll obviously be a decision I need to take

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Speaker 18: to Cabinet, but I'll certainly look at it now.

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Speaker 4: One of the other things they also want you to

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Speaker 4: limit is access to social media, because of course the

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Speaker 4: kids are still able to get through it through the laptops.

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Speaker 3: Can you actually practically do that?

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Speaker 18: There is a way that we can. It's not a

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Speaker 18: complete solution, but the Network for Learning that part of

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Speaker 18: they're a Crown agency who provide internet to schools, can

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Speaker 18: restrict and limit what you can see on the schools

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Speaker 18: network and they are able to disable access to social media.

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Speaker 21: Now.

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Speaker 18: I think about sixty percent of schools already do it voluntarily.

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Speaker 18: There's about forty percent who don't. And I'm just working

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Speaker 18: with n forour our on whether or not we can

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Speaker 18: go further with a band from the school network of

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Speaker 18: social media. There's a few fishalts in there.

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Speaker 3: I've got to look at though, like what.

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Speaker 18: Well, like the fact you've got things like YouTube, and

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Speaker 18: how would we deal with that In the fact that

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Speaker 18: actually for the moment teachers are on the network, and

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Speaker 18: teachers may be accessing Facebook during the day, and so

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Speaker 18: that would mean they would have lost access. So there's

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Speaker 18: a few little things I just have to think about.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, the ero says the problem with the phones

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Speaker 4: the ban is still in some cases the parents are

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Speaker 4: the problem because they are resisting the ban.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're finding.

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Speaker 18: Well, I was a little bit surprised to hear it.

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Speaker 18: But then when I think about my own behavior, sometimes

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Speaker 18: not so. You know, occasionally I will text Alex or

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Speaker 18: Holly at school and say, and how did your results go?

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Speaker 18: And then I've got to stop doing that. And actually, parents,

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Speaker 18: we all as a collective need to stop distracting our

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Speaker 18: kids during the day. And you know, even I looked

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Speaker 18: at that and thought, you know what, even I do

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Speaker 18: that occasionally and I need to stop doing it. And

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Speaker 18: I think all parents need to probably take that on board.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, listen, I see you've also got a bill

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Speaker 4: that's going to stop schools opting out of international maths

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Speaker 4: and reading tests.

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Speaker 3: What's going on here.

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Speaker 18: It's really important that we have data over time, that

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Speaker 18: consistent data over time that shows our performance. We really

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Speaker 18: have nothing else. PISA which is the one we do

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Speaker 18: at age fifteen that does the basics, and we've got

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Speaker 18: Pearls and Terms which do reading, writing and maths and

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Speaker 18: science at a younger age. Are the only longitudinal studies

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Speaker 18: we have to show our own performance over time. Yes,

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Speaker 18: it does rank us with other countries. I'm less concerned

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Speaker 18: about rankings. I'm more concerned about our own performance over time.

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Speaker 18: If you look at PISA at age fifteen, our students

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Speaker 18: today are about a year between a year and a

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Speaker 18: half and two years behind where they were in two

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Speaker 18: thousand and three when this started. So it's really important

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Speaker 18: that schools partake in the assessments. A lot of them

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Speaker 18: are refusing it, which means it falls on the same

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Speaker 18: schools year after year, which means the data is not

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Speaker 18: as valid lately as it should be. And so just

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Speaker 18: saying to school's hey, when you're asked, you need to

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Speaker 18: partake in it. It's really important for the health of

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Speaker 18: the system, so I know where to put resource and

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Speaker 18: we know how to make good policy decisions.

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Speaker 3: Erica, thanks very much, as always, Erica stand for the

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Speaker 3: Education Minister. Ten past five, Heather Duper c Alen Wellington.

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Speaker 4: City Council has voted to Pau's work on the Golden

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Speaker 4: Mile project. Yesterday, the cost blew out even further. It's

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Speaker 4: now estimated to cost two hundred and twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 4: That's almost triple what it was originally supposed to cost.

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Speaker 4: Andrew Little is the mayor of Wellington High Andrew h

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Speaker 4: chances that you're going to scrap this all together.

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Speaker 22: Look, I don't know, we need to look at the

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Speaker 22: cost of it. The reality is right now, the Welling

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Speaker 22: City Council cannot take on any more cost or any

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Speaker 22: more debt because of the cost plots we've had in

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Speaker 22: other projects. The reality is, Look, there are some good

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Speaker 22: things about the Golden Mile, but there may well be

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Speaker 22: alternatives that we should be exploring. So for me, it's

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Speaker 22: about focusing on what the objectives are. But what I'm

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Speaker 22: very clear about is that we cannot commit Willingtonians to

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Speaker 22: cost increases that simply we cannot bear.

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Speaker 23: Right now, what's caused this particular blowout, Look, I think

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Speaker 23: as they've been dealing with a contractor, they found that

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Speaker 23: the costs that were specified what four years ago are

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Speaker 23: no longer realistic.

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Speaker 22: That's not a surprise. But I think, like all these things.

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Speaker 22: You know, you get down to the detail planning, things

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Speaker 22: turn up and it just costs more. And the problem

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Speaker 22: with God is that even though the government had agreed

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Speaker 22: at that time to fund fifty one percent of it,

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Speaker 22: they kept the dollar amount at that rate, at the

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Speaker 22: twenty twenty one to the level. So any increase in

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Speaker 22: cost is entirely force on Willington rate payers and that's

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Speaker 22: what's making it just too.

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Speaker 8: Much for us.

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's not like they've gone underground and they've

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Speaker 4: found all of a sudden there are pipes that need

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Speaker 4: to be fixed or some additional cost.

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Speaker 3: It is just it is just inflation.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, during the pipes underground was already affected.

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Speaker 22: Then okay, that was that a twenty million dollars part

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Speaker 22: of the project. I mean the questions of course with

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Speaker 22: a that's to realistic cost now as well. But the

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Speaker 22: reality is this is this is just inflation and doing

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Speaker 22: what the plan said, you know, people wanted done.

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Speaker 4: Andrew, is it possible to get out of these contracts

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Speaker 4: without just you know, all kinds of ridiculous stuff like

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Speaker 4: break fees and sun costs and stuff like that.

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Speaker 22: Well, no contracts have been signed, so there's no exit

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Speaker 22: cost to there's no contract to get out of, so

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Speaker 22: there's no exit cost. What we have got is an

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Speaker 22: agreement with Wakakatai New Zealand Transport Agency on doing that project,

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Speaker 22: and it's if we change into on VET. I mean

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Speaker 22: obviously we lose funding, but we also lose may kind

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Speaker 22: of good will or good faith about entering into the

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Speaker 22: next contract and we actually need to maintain that relates

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Speaker 22: with MTTA. We've got some big projects scheduled for Wellington

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Speaker 22: now too and we need to maintain that relationship. So

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Speaker 22: a lot of boards that were juggling in the air.

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Speaker 22: But the bottom line is Wellingtonians can't take on any

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Speaker 22: more cost and we've got to get it right, the

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Speaker 22: right result for Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Right, Andrew, Thank you as always Andrew Little, Mayor of Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Ellen, this is going to cause trouble.

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Speaker 4: The government has just announced that they will add feral

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Speaker 4: cats to the list the Predator Free twenty to fifty

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Speaker 4: hit list. So the list of animals that you're allowed

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Speaker 4: to kill, you're allowed to well, when I say you,

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Speaker 4: I don't mean go out. I don't mean to go

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Speaker 4: and get a garn and shoot a cat. It's not

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Speaker 4: what I mean legal, This is not this is not

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Speaker 4: a good idea.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the people who go out and.

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Speaker 4: Kill the pests, they are allowed to kill the ferrets

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Speaker 4: and the weasels, and the rats and the possums and

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Speaker 4: the stoats and now the feral cats. And you can see, yeah,

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Speaker 4: someone's pet cat is going to get killed in it anyway.

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Speaker 3: So that's just happened.

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Speaker 4: So hang on to tech because we're going to get

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Speaker 4: you somebody up who can talk to us about that,

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Speaker 4: just really quickly.

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Speaker 3: That will happen. Next, more bad news for the coppers.

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Speaker 4: Remember that thing about the one hundred and twenty police

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Speaker 4: officers that were busted possibly faking the breath tests, and

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Speaker 4: a number of them, apparently a small number of them

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Speaker 4: have now been stood down from their duties because they

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Speaker 4: have been busted doing some other stuff as well. Police

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Speaker 4: are not going to say how many officers, and they're

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Speaker 4: not going to say what they've also been busted doing.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's obviously ramped up, like they had a

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Speaker 4: look at the one thing that they were busted doing and.

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00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: Then same thing.

879
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like this happens from time to time.

880
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: You have a look, and then you go, oh, it's

881
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 4: not just the one thing, is it, Johnny, that you've

882
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 4: been up to. Anyway, keep an eye on that because

883
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: the numbers will come out at some stage. Fourteen past five. Hey,

884
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: So I've been driving a new BYD lately last couple

885
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 4: of weeks. So it's called the Sea Lion seven. And

886
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: I have to say, I mean, as you know, the

887
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: Uter's missed, but I'm not going to complain because this

888
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 4: is a pretty good replacement. It's an the Sea Line

889
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: seven is an suv, so it has the thing that

890
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 4: every parent wants, which is space. You've got space in

891
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 4: the boots, space for the car seats. But it's still luxury.

892
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: It's all got the leather interior and all the bells

893
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 4: and whistles you'll possibly want. It boasts an impress of

894
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: three hundred and ninety killer what power. Now, if that

895
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 4: means nothing to you, just know that it goes from

896
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: zero to one hundred in just four and a half seconds,

897
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: which is pretty cool.

898
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: It's completely electric.

899
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: The blade battery has a range of four hundred and

900
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: fifty six k's, so you can drive from A to

901
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: B and you can probably drive back from B to A.

902
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: And do it free of anxiety.

903
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: And if you need to charge it real fast, it's

904
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: capable of one hundred and fifty killer what's DC fast charging?

905
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: Now go check it out.

906
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: And if you want to grab yourself one of these cars,

907
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: the end of year runout is on right now and

908
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: you can get yourself five thousand dollars off the new

909
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: c Lion seven models, but only for a limited time,

910
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: so don't dally. For more information see byd auto dot

911
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: co dot Nz.

912
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: Together do for c Allen.

913
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: Right, eighteen past five, Here we go. It's all on

914
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: with the feral cats.

915
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: They're now officially recognized as a pest by the government

916
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 4: and they're being added to the Predator Free twenty fifty

917
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: hit list. Apparently we could have anywhere upwards of two

918
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: point four mission feral cats around the country. The chief

919
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: executive of Predator Free New Zealand Trust, Jesse Morgan, is

920
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: with us on this.

921
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: Hello, Jesse, surely hear this. This was the right call.

922
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: This is overdue, isn't it.

923
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 24: This is so so overdue. We've been campaigning on this

924
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 24: for quite a long time, so we're really excited to

925
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 24: see it finally coming to reality.

926
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: When does it they say this now, but when does

927
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: it actually like, when do you actually get your hands

928
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: on you know, the cats.

929
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 24: Has the cats? I'm actually not sure on that detail.

930
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 24: I'm not sure if they added immediately or in the

931
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 24: strategy review, which is due to be released in March

932
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 24: next year, so I think it will be won't be

933
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 24: official toll March.

934
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Speaker 3: Okay, now, Jesse, this this is going to cause trouble,

935
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: isn't it.

936
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: No?

937
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 6: I don't think it is.

938
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 24: I think the public perceptions have rarely changed around feral cats,

939
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 24: and I think New Zealanders ready for this and have

940
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 24: actually been calling out for it, So I don't think

941
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 24: it's going to cause any issue at all.

942
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: Cats are really Oh no, you don't have to convince me.

943
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 3: I know the bad guys. But how do you trap

944
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: a feral cat?

945
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 24: How do you trap it? Most of the time, well,

946
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 24: there's multiple ways. You Either, if you're trapping in areas

947
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 24: where there might be companion cats, you use a live

948
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 24: catch a trap so the cat is caught, is alive.

949
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 24: You can scan it to check if it's a feral

950
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 24: cat or an owned cat, and then you can dispatch

951
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 24: of it normally by fire.

952
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: See a million ways that somebody's pet is going to

953
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: get calls in this, and then there's going to be

954
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: a drama and some old bit he's going to be

955
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: in the local rag complaining about her pet cat being killed.

956
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 24: Don't you think we No, Well, we can't afford for

957
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 24: that to happen, you know, like we need to maintain

958
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 24: social license here, so there will be I think there

959
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 24: will need to be changes around what we do with

960
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 24: our owned companion cats. And if we have compulsory microachure

961
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 24: I think for those cats, then we can easily identify

962
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 24: what's a owned cat and what is an unowned cat.

963
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 24: And that's the change we need in terms of a

964
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 24: policy change.

965
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: Who does the killing, by the way, like is it

966
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: normal punters, can we help you out or is it

967
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: designated people?

968
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 24: I mean a lot of farmers already control feral cats

969
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 24: on their farms, and a number of community groups around

970
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 24: the country. It tends to be done in remote areas

971
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 24: where there's no there's no companion cats and there's just

972
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 24: no reason for any cats to be in those areas,

973
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 24: So that's where it tends to be done. Yeah, but

974
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 24: you know, I'm sure if you want to get involved,

975
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 24: there's plenty of groups.

976
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: This is how it gets wild because next minute I'm

977
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: trapping cats and it's my neighbor's companion cat doing what

978
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 4: we no, No, we don't want that at all. Jesse,

979
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 4: Thanks very much appreciated. Jesse Morgan, Chief executive of Predator

980
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: Free New Zealand Trust. Do you think do we not

981
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: call them pets anymore? Are they not pet cats anymore?

982
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: Are we we're going full noise companion cat?

983
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: I really hope not. There's something about it. There's just

984
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

985
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: It's just a pet, isn't It's not a companion. Stop

986
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: getting weird about your cat. Five to twenty one.

987
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Dupliclan Drive

988
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 1: with One New Zealand coverage like no one else news talks.

989
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: They'd be here the interview that cat Champagne lady from

990
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: the Housewives show. She's going to be going mental right now.

991
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are going to be

992
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: going mental right now.

993
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: Five twenty four.

994
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: Now, Look, it's not every day I say this, but

995
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: I think Labor's got a point. And the point is

996
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 4: specifically about the road cone tip line, and the point

997
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: is that we're wasting money on it because we are.

998
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: The latest figures show that.

999
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 4: Only seven point five percent of the sites that authorities

1000
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: visited after someone complain via the road cone tip line

1001
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: actually ended up having road cones removed. Basically, only seven

1002
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: and a half percent actually had too many road cones.

1003
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: The remainder ninety two point five percent of the sites

1004
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: had the right number of road cones.

1005
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: Now, this will not surprise you at all.

1006
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 4: If you've already been following the road cone saga, you'll

1007
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: have reached the same conclusion that I already have, which

1008
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: is the problem is not that people lay out too

1009
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: many road cones. The problem is that the rules force

1010
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: them to lay out too many road cones. If you

1011
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: do not change the rules, there is no point in

1012
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 4: having a road cone tip line. And although the rules

1013
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 4: have changed and some councils are adopting them, I'm yet

1014
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: to be convinced that the new rules will lead to

1015
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: a dramatic reduction in the number of cones being laid out.

1016
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: There was a situation at Kindy. What a line.

1017
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: There was a situation at Kindy this week, or rather

1018
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: outside Kindy this week. The guys were doing work on

1019
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: the road outside right all they wanted to do was

1020
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: to lift the manhole cover in the middle of the

1021
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: street and flush the pipes. It was a water care job,

1022
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: and all they needed was one truck with about twenty

1023
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 4: cones around the truck, and then the two or three

1024
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: blokes that they required to do the work and pull

1025
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: in the hoses and whatever whatever.

1026
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: That was all they needed, right, one.

1027
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 4: Truck, twenty cones, two or three blokes, because no one

1028
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: was going fast on the road. It's a cold de

1029
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: sack with a candy in it. But instead, even though

1030
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: it's a cold de sack with a candy, and everybody

1031
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: drives it about twenty k's an hour, they used six

1032
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: hundred thousand cones and created six different lanes, and they

1033
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: had lollipop people all over the street, and they've blocked

1034
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: all the parks until one of the teachers came and

1035
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: told them to give them back a car park as

1036
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: they needed it. Right, they were treating it like it

1037
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 4: was State Highway one, because of course they were, because

1038
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: the rules.

1039
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: Require them to do that.

1040
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: Unless you change those rules, the road cone tip line

1041
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: is nothing more than a stunt that has already at

1042
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: last count, cost us more than one hundred thousand dollars,

1043
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: and I would not be surprised if it was close to.

1044
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: Double that now if you went to count it again.

1045
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 14: So scrap it.

1046
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: The road cone tip line is actually nothing more than

1047
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: a waste.

1048
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: Of money, Heather dupuy Ellen, Lord.

1049
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is this cat thing is going

1050
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: to turn into a thing. Heather.

1051
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: You need to keep your cat on your property and

1052
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: it will not get shot. It's pretty simple, Karen. I

1053
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: don't even have a cat anymore, but and I'm copying it, Hither.

1054
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: I'm a responsible owner. If someone kills my cat, there's

1055
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: going to be utu Heather. That was totally out of

1056
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: order on the feral cats. Jesse was abhorrent in her communication.

1057
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: Was it the bit where she said that it was

1058
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 4: going to be sorted out with a firearm? Was that

1059
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: the bit that upset you?

1060
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: Heather?

1061
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: You are going to be an old biddy one day

1062
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: too that some would say, I already am, Heather. Is

1063
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 4: this an Undy's Undies toll tog scenario we're in Google

1064
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 4: Google Maps.

1065
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: Does a domestic cat become a feral cat? There's your

1066
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: problem right there.

1067
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: Graham's hit the nail on the head because you're gonna have,

1068
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna have what do you call cats nowadays?

1069
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 3: What is a good cat name? Do we have cats?

1070
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 12: Mittens?

1071
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: Thank you you got Mittens. Mittens is on your property, right,

1072
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: Mittens is on your property.

1073
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: It's fine.

1074
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: But then Mittens goes to Ant's house and Ants goes, oh,

1075
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: look that's a feral cat.

1076
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like we get this is drama,

1077
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: drama what you'd never kill a cat? Whatever you should.

1078
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talk to Heather first, Heather Duplice Ellen

1079
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: Drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite

1080
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: Mobile newsg said, be.

1081
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: Right, the huddle standing by. We have fellow Riley and

1082
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: Jack Tame with us this evening, and after six we're

1083
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: going to talk to Chris Bishop. Now Christmaship.

1084
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: We have a speech yesterday which kind of went unnoticed

1085
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: by a lot of people, in which he talked about

1086
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: the roads of national significance and how bloody hard it's

1087
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: going to be to actually build these roads because we

1088
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: just don't have enough money, Like we'd have to pay

1089
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: so much in road taxes, as in petrol taxes in

1090
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 4: order to fund them. Tolls would not cover them. We

1091
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: don't have enough cars paying tolls. PPP's sure helps, but

1092
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: it just delays the cost. So anyway, we're going to

1093
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: talk to him about you know what he's planning to

1094
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: do here. If you can't build them all right now,

1095
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 4: what are you going to do about it? He's with

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00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: us after six right now, it's twenty four away from

1097
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 4: six now to the coalition. Winston Peters has done a

1098
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: bit of a funny thing. He told Watier News today

1099
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 4: that he plans to repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill.

1100
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 11: We did our best to neutralize its adversity effects and

1101
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 11: we will campaign in the next election to repeal it.

1102
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Speaker 4: Okay, but what's odd about it is that the bill

1103
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 4: that he wants to repeal only passed two days ago,

1104
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: and he actually voted to pass it. David Seymour is

1105
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: the leader of the AX Party. Hi, David, Hey, Okay,

1106
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: what's going on here? Did he want something included in

1107
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: the bill or excluded in the bill that he didn't

1108
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: get that's was the to go sour on it.

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00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 15: No, We've worked pretty hard to try and find out

1110
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 15: exactly what the objections are, and we're being prepared to

1111
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 15: make changes. I thought some of them are actually positive

1112
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 15: and we included them, and then we passed the bill

1113
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 15: because it's government policy. But I mean more fundamentally, this

1114
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 15: country is tied up in red tape. We are poorer

1115
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 15: than we would otherwise be. People have their lives destroyed

1116
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 15: by stupid rules, such as a woman I wrote about

1117
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 15: in the post yesterday. She lost her life savings to

1118
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 15: silly earthquake rules that should have been properly vetted before

1119
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 15: they were made. The Regulatory Standards Bill is designed to

1120
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Speaker 15: fix that the same way that the Reserve Bank Act

1121
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 15: fixed out a control inflation and the Public Finance Act

1122
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 15: fixed out a control debt back in the day. Now

1123
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 15: you know that's the objective here. It's quite serious stuff.

1124
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 15: And yeah, people want to play politics. I mean it's

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00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 15: not even election he yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you think that's what's going on.

1127
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: He's passed it, happily pasted it, and now he sees

1128
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: an opportunity to play politic.

1129
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, okay, I don't know. I mean, you know where

1130
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 15: actors at the moment is that we're basically been given

1131
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 15: a job by the voters and the taxpayers at the

1132
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 15: last election, and I'd like to think that we're doing it.

1133
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 15: I mean, the most important thing the government's done today,

1134
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 15: in my humble opinion, is announced that you're going to

1135
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 15: be able to bring in groceries labeled in select foreign

1136
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 15: countries using QR codes to add New Zealand additional information. Now,

1137
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 15: if that stops you having to put silly stickers on

1138
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 15: foreign goods as you sometimes see in the International Aisle,

1139
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 15: it means you can get a wider range of groceries

1140
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 15: into New Zealand. It might actually improve the prices we

1141
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 15: paid by increasing competition. That's the kind of thing we're doing.

1142
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 15: May not set the world on fire, but it might

1143
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 15: actually make a difference.

1144
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: Do you think the theory that you've expressed earlier today

1145
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: is that you think that Winston Peters is preparing to

1146
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: potentially go with labor after the election.

1147
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: Do you really believe that, Well, you.

1148
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 15: Know that's the arm chair political commentators view, is that

1149
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 15: the position that he's expressed is you know, precisely the

1150
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 15: labor position. So you could speculate that. But I mean again,

1151
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 15: you know you've called me a policy nerd, and I

1152
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 15: wear it proudly, Heather. I'm not really so much into

1153
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 15: politic sas policy, and what we're trying to do is

1154
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 15: just make sure the policy settings are right so people

1155
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 15: can get on in this country. I mean, last night

1156
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 15: we passed legislation through Parliament that will fundamentally change the

1157
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 15: way early childhood centers are regulated because I've been fed

1158
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 15: up with red.

1159
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

1160
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: I want to talk about your theory about Winston going

1161
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: with labor. How do you rate the chances of it?

1162
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 15: Well, he's done it before, and a lot of what

1163
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 15: this government is doing is fixing.

1164
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: It's very sober wrong because I think he's wrong.

1165
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 15: Well, he would have been wrong if he had said

1166
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 15: it in twenty seventeen, as we know, to our great

1167
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 15: cost of about one hundred billion dollar. So you know

1168
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 15: that it has happened before. And my message is that

1169
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 15: the party will be campaigning to keep the government because

1170
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 15: you see the other guys. If they get in a

1171
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 15: lot of people will just be gone. And a guy

1172
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 15: said it to me today. I said, mate, I'll probably

1173
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 15: be on the seat next to you. And at the

1174
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 15: same time, we need to make it better because while

1175
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 15: I think the government has done a pretty good job

1176
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 15: in very tough circumstances, the reason I'm in the act

1177
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 15: Party is I always think that we need a bit

1178
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 15: more ambition on the policy front.

1179
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: All right, David, thank you very much, appreciated David Syboard

1180
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 4: leader of the Act Party.

1181
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand, Southby's International Realty a name

1182
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

1183
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: He didn't want to say it again, so this is

1184
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 3: what he said earlier.

1185
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 12: Well, it's pretty worrying because that's Labour's position. It sounds

1186
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 12: like he's getting ready to go with Labor again.

1187
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the huddle with us this evening pillow, Riley Iron,

1188
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 4: Duke Partner's Jack Tame, host to Q and A and

1189
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: Saturday Mornings.

1190
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: Are you too?

1191
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 8: Are we're calling this Metallica voice?

1192
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 10: Is that what we're calling him?

1193
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: Nate, I'm not even that cool.

1194
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: This is Lenny Kravitz's voice still from Saturday Night. I

1195
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: couldn't even sing at Metallica.

1196
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 25: Made two like global superstars in the spaces and I have.

1197
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: A ten month old. I mean, like, what what is life?

1198
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I was just no singing a Metallica

1199
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 4: last night. But there's nothing to sing along with because

1200
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: it's just a bit weird, isn't it.

1201
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 6: Phil?

1202
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 8: Did you get a bruce from their head banging?

1203
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 6: No?

1204
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: I listened the bosses are listening. I had to.

1205
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: I was behaving myself. I had one beer, I had

1206
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 4: a burger. I sat in silence.

1207
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: I didn't move. I tried to preserve my throat.

1208
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 7: So there we go.

1209
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: Now we will talk about Metallica those I've got to

1210
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 4: talk to you guys about it in a minute, but quickly, Phil,

1211
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 4: I want to know what's going on here. Do you

1212
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: believe the theory that Winston's prepared to go with labor again.

1213
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 8: No, what Winston's trying to do is maximize as votes here.

1214
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 8: So they're already in full election by Shane Jones is

1215
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 8: running around the country talking at what he says that

1216
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 8: I've got the displays and fully sold out to original meetings.

1217
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 8: They're absolutely setting out their store. They're early out of

1218
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 8: the blocks on the silic some stuff. And so really

1219
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 8: what Winston's doing is increasing the potential for his boks here, hoping.

1220
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 8: I guess that there might be a Luxe and lead

1221
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 8: government was just him and lux and in it him

1222
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 8: and announcement with ACT on the side. Maybe that's his dream.

1223
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 8: I'm a bit with Arry Soaper. I think don't necessarily

1224
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 8: go as far as Berry, but I think it's pretty

1225
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 8: unlikely he'll go as Labor because you know, he's planting

1226
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 8: himself into a bit of a corner here and he

1227
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 8: really doesn't like what they did to him over poor

1228
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 8: Poor and all the rest.

1229
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon, Jack?

1230
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 8: Well?

1231
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 25: I would never say never for anything when it comes

1232
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 25: to Winston. I never ruled them out of anything. But

1233
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 25: I do think if you consider his comments today and

1234
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 25: you put them alongside those comments from last week that

1235
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 25: he made about National Life, you know, I think it's

1236
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 25: perfectly reasonable to look at News gild First right now

1237
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 25: and think that they're trying to give themselves maximum agency

1238
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 25: when it comes to coalition negotiations at the end of

1239
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 25: next year. You know, you think about the last coalition negotiations.

1240
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 25: You were one seem to think that New Zealand first

1241
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 25: and acted very well out of it, and that maybe

1242
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 25: now didn't do so well. If they go into the

1243
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 25: negotiations and everyone automatically assumes that it's going to be

1244
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 25: a repeat of the three parties and government, well it

1245
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 25: doesn't really give you in the first many chips. But

1246
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 25: if there's a sintilla of a possibility that they might

1247
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 25: go with Labor, if they just entertain the idea in public.

1248
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 25: Then maybe it means they'll get a few more of

1249
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 25: their policies through.

1250
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe so a fair point.

1251
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Now the feral cats thing has just happened, Phil,

1252
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: how do you feel about it?

1253
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 8: Well, I'm concerned about I'm concerned about Fluffy. Fluffy will

1254
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 8: be some cats who's got out of Missus Miggans's house

1255
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 8: and Timaru and some sort of in some modern day

1256
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 8: Tarzan or elephant hunter shoots the poor little bigger or

1257
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 8: poisonserr or something. That's going to be the challenge I

1258
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 8: think him. And you've got to argue. I don't think

1259
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 8: you're can argue that feral cats out in the wild

1260
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 8: are a good idea, and I kind of support the

1261
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 8: idea that you need to do something about them, but

1262
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 8: not Fluffy. And that's going to be the challenge of

1263
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 8: because Fluffy interacts with the federals of course.

1264
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Fluffy.

1265
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: Fluffy is going to be mates the feral's jack and

1266
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: this is this is exactly what I think is going

1267
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: to happen. It's going to be absolutely fine until somebody

1268
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: shoots a night someone's companion cat.

1269
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: On the head.

1270
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 25: Oh, Jeffrey, Well yeah, that's that's gonna be a very

1271
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 25: bad day, isn't it, to say the least. I mean,

1272
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 25: I have you know, I think there are many many

1273
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 25: responsible cat owners out there. I hate how cats kill

1274
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 25: native birds. I think it's actually overdue move to put

1275
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 25: them on the period of free list. Fit the feral

1276
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 25: cats on the period to free list. So I'm really

1277
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 25: pleased have done this. Yeah, I suppose the proof of

1278
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 25: the puddings in the eating. We have to wait and

1279
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 25: see actually how they target these feral cats. And when

1280
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 25: you come to those like urban rural boundaries and some

1281
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 25: of those kind of bluerry areas about where poison should

1282
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 25: and shouldn't be dropped, that's where it could get a

1283
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 25: bit sticky.

1284
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: It's going to get very sticky. Hey guys, we'll take

1285
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 4: a break. Come back to you shortly sixteen away from

1286
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 4: six the.

1287
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only truly

1288
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: global brand.

1289
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: Thirteen away from Sexy Back with a Huddle, Jack Tayman,

1290
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: Pillow Riley Listen.

1291
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 6: Jack.

1292
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: I was quite surprised to hear from the er today

1293
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 4: that part of the problem with the ban, which is

1294
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: working quite well, but part of the problem is parents

1295
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: who are resisting it.

1296
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: Were you surprised by that?

1297
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 18: Ah?

1298
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 25: No, honestly, I'm not. Parents are the worst sometimes, Honestly,

1299
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 25: parents can be the absolute worst. They love putting like

1300
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 25: all of the results of all of their bad parenting

1301
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 25: decisions and bad parenting moves. They think often lies at

1302
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 25: the responsibility of someone else. But no, I thought the

1303
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 25: report told us largely what we already knew. Actually that,

1304
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 25: of course, banning kids from using their cell phones during

1305
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 25: the school day makes sense. I just think it's madness

1306
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 25: that anyone opposed us. I never understood at the time.

1307
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 25: We remember Label was opposed it when National First first

1308
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 25: went to the.

1309
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 17: Election with it.

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Speaker 25: I just think it makes total sense. And you know,

1311
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 25: the real question is whether the success of this will

1312
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 25: increase support for a social media ban.

1313
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Speaker 3: I think it will. I think it will.

1314
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: I think it will actually feil because I think it

1315
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: proves that you can take it something away and you

1316
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: go back to the good old days in some way,

1317
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: and it kind of lifts achievement and focus.

1318
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 3: What do you think?

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's right. And when I'm absolutely convinced

1320
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 8: that we need to we need to do something about

1321
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 8: social media, you should or young young people, and I

1322
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 8: think banning it's a good idea myself. Australia's has done it.

1323
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 8: Australia is just in the process of doing it now,

1324
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 8: so we'll have an opportunity to have a look at

1325
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 8: what impact it has because people say it can't literally

1326
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 8: be done well, it's ever looks you, let's ever asked.

1327
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 8: So I think the way that overcomes some of the parents'

1328
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 8: concerns or some of the parents kind of lack of

1329
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 8: understanding of this is actually to put the tools in

1330
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 8: the hands of the teachers. Parents listen a lot to teachers, right,

1331
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 8: So if the government says, but parents, you should just

1332
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 8: get with the program, that won't work. You need to

1333
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 8: let teachers talk to parents to say, here's what's actually happening.

1334
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 8: A little Johnny's going much better. You should not help

1335
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 8: givem the phone. And I think they'll trust that kind

1336
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 8: of advice from teachers. So's to make sure that teachers

1337
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 8: themselves get ahead of us and start explaining why it's

1338
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 8: a good idea, because I think they I think they

1339
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 8: agree it is.

1340
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 25: I mean sometimes the thing the parents seem to say

1341
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 25: is that they want to be able to contact your

1342
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 25: kid during the day. But I mean, we all went

1343
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 25: to school at a time before everyone had itself phone,

1344
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 25: and we start. If you need your kid, you call

1345
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 25: the office.

1346
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 8: It's not that hard, exactly exactly.

1347
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 4: Right, and you actually, yeah, you don't need to have

1348
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 4: your lunch delivered. If you forgot your lunch, sometimes you

1349
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: can just go hungry and learn about it.

1350
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1351
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing like we did. Okay, here it

1352
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: makes you resilient. Okay, here's the thing. So I went

1353
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: to Metallica last night, guys, and there was this bogan

1354
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 3: in front of me. Bless it. There's actually more of

1355
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: a metal head than a bogan.

1356
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: And the minute that they started, he got up in

1357
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 4: a seat and he was double horning with his hands

1358
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 4: and he was playing the eir guitar and everybody around

1359
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 4: him hated it, and they threw cans at him and

1360
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: they made him sit down while he was having the

1361
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 4: best night of his life. My take watching that Jack

1362
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: is that he paid good money for that seat, and

1363
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: if he wants to stand and boggie, he should be allowed.

1364
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 8: What do you think a hundred Metallica if you were going.

1365
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 25: For a nice night in with a philharmonic, it would

1366
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 25: be a different story, it's Metallica. The thing that's most

1367
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 25: horrifying to me from that story here there is that

1368
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 25: everyone around him wasn't standing up and getting.

1369
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: Into it as well.

1370
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 25: Do you really go to Metallica to sit down on

1371
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 25: your butt and be quiet?

1372
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: Yes? People did, so many people did. Phil you shocked

1373
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: by this as well, but it.

1374
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 8: Must have been the ones heavily on drugs. Anyway, below,

1375
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 8: I was a Chuck of krn Confort, great singer, much

1376
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 8: better than Metallica the Auckland at the Civic Theater a

1377
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 8: few months ago. Thing happened Chuck A Khan, one of

1378
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 8: the great soul singers and one of the great singers

1379
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 8: of all the time, of course, much better than Metallica.

1380
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 8: But at the same thing happened. As soon as she

1381
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 8: came out, everybody just got up out of their seats,

1382
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 8: and so did I. I mean, because that's what everybody

1383
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 8: else is doing, and you can get into the swing

1384
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 8: of and that's cool fun. You know, it's a text point.

1385
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 8: You're not going to do that if it's Mozart concert

1386
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 8: because everybody will be snoring. You want to be for

1387
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 8: these kinds of concerts where energetic, just get with the program.

1388
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 8: Stand up. It's good fun and you can even if

1389
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 8: you can dance, you can sway. I had a bit

1390
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 8: of a sway to chuck a Khan. I can't.

1391
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm in a visual image of this, and it is

1392
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: it's just a thing in my head, right.

1393
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1394
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 8: And once you're once you've once you've thought of it,

1395
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 8: you can't get rid of it.

1396
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: No, And I mean like yeah. And also because you're

1397
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: a very tall man, so the swaying would have been

1398
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: everybody would a spot.

1399
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, tell you what that is one thing a lot

1400
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 8: of notice of that people can't see.

1401
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: But here we go, here we go.

1402
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 8: Yep.

1403
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 17: Is that it for you?

1404
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 8: Is that I'm swaying. You can't see me doing this

1405
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 8: when I'm actually swaying as we speak.

1406
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm every woman.

1407
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: Did you feel like that, Phil when you were standing

1408
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: up there, when you're like, I am every woman?

1409
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 8: Exactly right, That's exactly what I felt like. I can't

1410
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 8: sing quite as well as to no, none of us.

1411
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 8: I'll be with you with that.

1412
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 19: Good.

1413
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: I have to ask you this, though, Jack, because I've

1414
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 4: got a lot of texts from people who said, if

1415
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 4: you want to sit down, you buy a seat.

1416
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: If you want to stand and go into the moshpit

1417
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 3: or the ga.

1418
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 25: Honestly, if you want to sit down, don't go Metallica.

1419
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 25: That's just where I said. I think it's it is

1420
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 25: so artist dependent. I just I was flying back to

1421
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 25: walking from Wellington yesterday. The entire plane but me was

1422
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 25: headed to the Metallica concert. The vibes are amazing.

1423
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: Wrong with where were you going?

1424
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 25: Well, I'm just I'm more of a system of a

1425
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 25: down kind of guy. Like if I'm going to go mettle,

1426
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 25: I'm going to go metal metal, you know, Yeah, I'm

1427
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 25: going to go like real political all, you know, real deep. Anyway,

1428
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 25: I and I I just can't imagine going to a

1429
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 25: confident like that and then just putting my feet up.

1430
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 25: It just it feels like that the total wrong vibe

1431
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 25: to bring to what is an epic event.

1432
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, listen, Phil, next time you go to a

1433
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: cool gig like Chucker, can you let us know so

1434
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 4: we can.

1435
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: All come with you?

1436
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 8: Not much you prepared the stands up.

1437
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: I'm standing up and I'm tiktoking you, and that TikTok

1438
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 4: is going to pay for my ticket once people start

1439
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: watching you swaying guys, thank you so much. I appreciate it,

1440
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 4: look after yourself, Jack Time and fillow Riley a huddle.

1441
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: This evening, seven away from six.

1442
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

1443
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: on My Art Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

1444
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: Listen on the AI thing.

1445
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: You will have seen in video results today that has

1446
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 4: given people some confident. Yesterday people lost confidence in the

1447
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 4: AI because of the anthropic thing and all the sharing

1448
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: of the money and stuff, and you know, maybe it's

1449
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: an AI bubble. Today people feel a bit more confident

1450
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: and video's results came out. Sam Dicky is going to

1451
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 4: be with us after half past six and.

1452
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: We'll have a chat to him about that. Thank god.

1453
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 4: Somebody said this, Heather, what a fast MMP can be

1454
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: high ranking government minister. This is Winston votes for a

1455
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 4: policy and then two seconds later he decides he's going

1456
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: to campaign on repealing it. What a waste of everyone's

1457
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: time and money. It's pointless. Do we need first past

1458
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 4: the post? I don't want first past the post, but

1459
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: I agree with MJW on.

1460
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 3: That one, which is Winston.

1461
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: You are wasting my money and my time if you're

1462
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: going to vote for something and then two days later

1463
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 4: decide you don't want and you're going to campaign. What's

1464
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean? Come on, man, we've got we've got haven't

1465
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 4: We got big problems in this country were can actually

1466
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: be dealing with? Listen so I on Metallica, far away

1467
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 4: from sex on Metallica. I need to apologize to all

1468
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 4: the Metallica fans for yesterday bagging Metallica, because look, that

1469
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 4: was that actually was a really impressive gig.

1470
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: They were great, right and and solely because when you

1471
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 3: see them out.

1472
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: There doing their thing, and the little fingers going across

1473
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: the fret boards or the guitars, and you know, old

1474
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: Mate doing his drumming like that is some That is

1475
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 4: some actual talent and hard work that has on into

1476
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: being able to play those instruments to the level that

1477
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 4: they do. It was a really really good show that

1478
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 4: they put on. I actually think, having watched it on

1479
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: stage now, I think I could probably go and listen

1480
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 4: to for Whom the Bell Tolls and like not hate

1481
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 4: it like I hated it the other day.

1482
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: I could probably missus it. Which one's this one? Well,

1483
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 3: this is Master of Puppets, just crank it up, quickly answered.

1484
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: It's a lot better alive than when you're having to

1485
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: listen to it like this, which is really good.

1486
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 4: And the other thing that surprised me, and I don't

1487
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: know why it surprised me, was when they came out

1488
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 4: there were normal people like I was expecting, like really

1489
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: weird metal heads because.

1490
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't actually know matell I all care about them.

1491
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: They can't.

1492
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 4: They were just a bunch of dads on They're like

1493
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: four sixty one year old dads anyway, and shout out

1494
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: to ed at Park because I arrived there straight from

1495
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 4: work and I was hungry and I bought a burger

1496
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: and their burgers at Eden Part were better than what

1497
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: I bought at the Oasis Gag in Melbourne. So well

1498
01:05:51,320 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: done you okay, Chris Bishop's next, What's up down?

1499
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: What were the major calls and how will it affect

1500
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: the economy?

1501
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business Hour with the

1502
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: head the dupic Allen and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance.

1503
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: Your futures have good hands used talk z B even.

1504
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 4: In coming up for the next hour, Sam Dickey on

1505
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 4: the AI Bubble after half passed, Jamie MacKaye on ZESPRI

1506
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 4: looking good again and Ander Brady will do the UK

1507
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 4: for you. Seven past six now the Transport Minister has

1508
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 4: outlined a real problem for the Roads of National Significance

1509
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: program we might not have the money for it. In

1510
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 4: a speech to the Future Roads Conference yesterday, Chris Bisher

1511
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 4: pointed out that the National Land Transport Fund is massively oversubscribed.

1512
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 4: That's what we normally used to pay for roads PPPs. Yeah,

1513
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 4: sure they help, but they just delay the bill rather

1514
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 4: than paying for it. And we do not have a

1515
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 4: big enough population for tolls to fund projects by themselves.

1516
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: So let's talk to Chris Bishop about this.

1517
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 17: High Bish, Good afternoon.

1518
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 4: So what are you saying here that we are not

1519
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 4: going to get all the Roads of National Significance or

1520
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 4: we're just going to have to wait longer for them.

1521
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 17: I'm just trying to do a bit of ex spectation management.

1522
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 17: You know, the Roads of National Significance that the government's

1523
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 17: going to deliver are popular, and they are you know,

1524
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Speaker 17: big investments in the future of New Zealand. From a

1525
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 17: growth point of view, from freight, from getting around. All

1526
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 17: of those things are true and they're right. I'm just

1527
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 17: simply making the point that they're expensive, that there are

1528
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 17: trade offs with other priorities, and that they can't all

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01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 17: be delivered at once. So I'm just trying to do

1530
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 17: a bit of expectation management. This is about a long

1531
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 17: term pipeline, Okay. I just don't want people to think that,

1532
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 17: you know, there's going to be like fifteen big major

1533
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 17: roads all built at the same time around the country,

1534
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 17: all at the same time. That's not going to happen.

1535
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 17: To be honest, our construction market can't cope with that anyway, right.

1536
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 17: We just literally do not have the workers, all the

1537
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 17: capacity to do that, and it will drive up inflation

1538
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 17: even if we did. So, I'm just saying it's about

1539
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 17: a long term pipeline over many, many years to get

1540
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 17: these roads.

1541
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 3: It's long term.

1542
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 17: Well, we're going to set out, you know, soon a

1543
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 17: bit of a sequence and a bit of a pipeline

1544
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 17: over the next fifteen to twenty years around not just

1545
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 17: the roads of national significance, but also some of the

1546
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 17: other important projects like the Northwest Busway for example, an

1547
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 17: Auckland Airport to Botany bus way. There's the whole range

1548
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 17: of other projects that we need to get it.

1549
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 4: So are you saying that all of the roads of

1550
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 4: national significance that we are expecting will get started within

1551
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 4: the next fifteen to twenty years.

1552
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 17: You'll I won't want to give you that commitment today,

1553
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 17: but you will see a bit of a plan and

1554
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 17: a sequence and a pipeline over the next twenty years.

1555
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 17: As to the projects we want to build, I'm just

1556
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 17: simply making the point. But they're committed to these projects.

1557
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 17: They are really important.

1558
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: We will get on.

1559
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 17: We will get on with them, but they can't all

1560
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 17: be done at the same time.

1561
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 4: Should we expect, though, that some of them will not

1562
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 4: be started within the twenty year period, No, I wouldn't.

1563
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 17: That wouldn't be my expectation. My expectations would be that

1564
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 17: they will start in the twenty years, but they can't

1565
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 17: all be you know, they can't all be delivered. I mean,

1566
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 17: the problem be if we don't have the capacity to

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01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 17: do it.

1568
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 4: The problem being, of course, that anything that you guys

1569
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 4: don't get started in your time in office may never

1570
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 4: get started because the next lock don't love roads, right,

1571
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 4: That's the reality.

1572
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 17: All of that is a very strong driver for people

1573
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 17: to Party vote National to make sure we get on

1574
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 17: with building the infrastructure that DELA needs for the future.

1575
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 4: That is that is realistic, right, Anything that does that,

1576
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: That is why we are fixated on getting you guys

1577
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 4: to get spades in the ground, because the next lot

1578
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 4: may never do it if you don't do it.

1579
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 17: Yeah, and ultimately they'll have to account for themselves as

1580
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 17: to all of that. We can set out our policies

1581
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,919
Speaker 17: and our intentions, and we're working as quickly as possible

1582
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 17: to get started on these projects because they are really

1583
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 17: important for his land. We're just to turn that we

1584
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 17: don't start a construction on the Hawks Bakes Pressway just

1585
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 17: last week and that's underway now, the four landing of

1586
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 17: seven kilometers of that very congested section of the road,

1587
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 17: and will be more next year.

1588
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 4: Is it not realistic to simply raise the tolls just

1589
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: just make it more expensive to drive on the new roads?

1590
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1591
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 17: So what's one of the points I made in the

1592
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 17: speech it gave you today or day before, which is that,

1593
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 17: you know, one of the one of the things people

1594
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 17: do need to think about is if we delivered all

1595
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 17: of the seventeen roads that we want to deliver, that

1596
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 17: if that would that would be paid for, could be

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01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 17: paid for by forty nine cents per lead increase in

1598
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 17: fuel tax. Now, there's probably a bunch of people listening

1599
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 17: going well, bugg of that. I don't want to fifty cent.

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 17: You know, a leader increase in fuel texs are paying

1601
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 17: off as it is. But that's kind of my point, right,

1602
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 17: is that roads do actually ultimately have to be paid for,

1603
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 17: and they paid for through petrol tax.

1604
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 8: YEP.

1605
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 17: Tolls are a thing, and obviously they help, but you know,

1606
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 17: will people really pay twenty five bucks to drive on

1607
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 17: a new road. I'd say probably not. Feat they probably

1608
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 17: just take the alternative route. So that's just something to

1609
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 17: my point. I'm just trying to get expectations set a bit.

1610
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 17: That's all.

1611
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 5: Now.

1612
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 3: Listen, do you think the Prime Minister is doing a

1613
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: good job.

1614
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 17: Yes, I think he's doing an excellent job and difficult circumstances,

1615
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 17: I think he's doing a.

1616
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: Good job, so he should keep the job.

1617
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 17: Yeah, he's doing a good job. We're obviously in a

1618
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 17: difficult economic environment and the government's working as hard as

1619
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 17: we can to turn the corner on that and we've

1620
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 17: got some green shoots of change coming through and I

1621
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 17: think next year will be better than this year. But

1622
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 17: you know, clearly it's a difficult time for everybody, and

1623
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 17: it's a difficul geopolitical environment as well.

1624
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 3: Have you read Audrey's piece today.

1625
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 17: No, I haven't read Audrey's piece. I'm sure you're about

1626
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 17: to tell me.

1627
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: I am, and I can't wait.

1628
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 4: Audrey's piece says that you are getting targeted by labor.

1629
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 4: You have a target on your back because you were

1630
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 4: the most likely person to take over from Chris Luxen.

1631
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 17: Oh that's interesting. I think they're just having a go

1632
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 17: at me because they've got nothing else to go on

1633
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 17: the government, and they've dreamed up some you know, tim

1634
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 17: pop little story about you know, making sure that the

1635
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 17: you know, the government delivers for the people, the good

1636
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 17: people of the Hut South.

1637
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, scale of one to ten. How disappointed are

1638
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 4: you that you weren't at Metallica last night.

1639
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 17: Or ten and a half.

1640
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's what happens.

1641
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 17: Sad, but well it's a sad but true reality. Do

1642
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 17: you see what I did there?

1643
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I don't know any Metallica songs. Bish.

1644
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 17: Oh, well, nothing else matters other than I've got the parliament.

1645
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, but.

1646
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 17: It's just down here right in the lightning at Parliament.

1647
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 17: So it's all good.

1648
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: You're so lame. Hey, thank you overy.

1649
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 6: What was that?

1650
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: Laugh?

1651
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 6: Lord?

1652
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 3: Bish?

1653
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Chris Biship, Transport Minister, Transport minister

1654
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 4: metal head, not rolling Chris Luckson apparently thirteen.

1655
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: Past six, Heather Duplessy Allen got some.

1656
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: Numbers for you on how low the dollar is. Yeah,

1657
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 3: you're not imagining it.

1658
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 4: So it's been a one percent fall I think in

1659
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 4: the day leading up to this morning it was sitting

1660
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 4: around for phy six US and so whatever. I'll check

1661
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: it for you in a second again seven month low

1662
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 4: against the US dollar, near thirteen year low, against the

1663
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 4: Australian currency, at thirteen year low, against the British pound

1664
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 4: at thirteen year low, against the Chinese one, the trade

1665
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 4: weighted keiwek.

1666
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: Touching a five year low. Not imagining it. Fourteen past six.

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1668
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by news dog ZEBBI, crunching the

1669
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: numbers and getting the results. That's Heather Duplessy Allen on

1670
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: the Business Hour with MAS Motor Vehicle Insurance.

1671
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands US talk ZBI.

1672
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I check the dollar.

1673
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 4: You're still sitting at fifty six against the US start

1674
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 4: of the day there kind had a bit of a

1675
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: dip in the middle of the day bounce back up

1676
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 4: seventeen passix Jamie McKay Country Hosters with us Elo Jamie.

1677
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 6: Gooda heather and that fifty six cent dollars obviously helping

1678
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 6: exporters in this country, including Zespre.

1679
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: How's the forecast looking for them?

1680
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 6: Well, they've just released their November forecast, and the per

1681
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 6: tray returns for all fruit groups from the latest forecast

1682
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 6: are up from the August one look at and these

1683
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 6: are telephone book numbers sort of at a per hectare level.

1684
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 6: Record returns in our forecast for all fruit groups of

1685
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 6: zespri or keyw fruit. For example, A heck there and

1686
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 6: you need to own one of these heather of some

1687
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 6: gold will return you somewhere between one hundred and seventy

1688
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 6: nine and a hunt and eighty six thousand dollars for heviia.

1689
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 6: That's a fantastic return. I caught up with the chief

1690
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 6: executive of Zesbury, Jason to Break in Japan early today

1691
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 6: on my show. So Zesbury's got a record crop of

1692
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 6: two hundred and fifteen million trays. They've found a home

1693
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 6: for it right around the world. They've got really strong

1694
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 6: demand in Europe and North America and North America even

1695
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 6: better now that Trump's dropped as tariffs. They've also had

1696
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 6: a favorable exchange rate, as we mentioned, fifty six US

1697
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 6: since and Zesbury will release its final forecast for the

1698
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 6: twenty five twenty six season in February. But look like

1699
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 6: a lot of the primary sector, it's an industry on

1700
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 6: a high at the moment.

1701
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on with the dairy farmers.

1702
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting because we know we're hearing record returns

1703
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 6: for Zesbury or for Kiwi Fruit red meats at an

1704
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 6: all time high. Dairy the jury's out because you know

1705
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 6: what happens when the price gets as high as it

1706
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 6: has ten bucks and more, the tap gets turned on

1707
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 6: right around the world. And even Kiwi farmers themselves are guilty,

1708
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 6: and I don't blame them at all. So, you know,

1709
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: like dairy farmings like paint by numbers in some ways,

1710
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 6: you put stuff in the front end of a cow

1711
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 6: and out the back end or near the back end,

1712
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 6: comes to milk. So when you've got a ten dollar payout,

1713
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 6: you can afford to supplementary feed them. And farmers did

1714
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 6: go chasing the high payout at the end of last

1715
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 6: season and that's almost working against them now. So what

1716
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 6: we've seen with the GDT auction last night or on

1717
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 6: Tuesday night, should I say seventh consecutive drop, we're at

1718
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 6: a new fifteen month low. ASB senior economist Chris Tennant

1719
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 6: Brown said, the early signs were that milk production would

1720
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 6: be very strong this season. They opened ASB with a

1721
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 6: very I guess conservative at the time forecast of nine

1722
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 6: to seventy five. Fonterra, as far as I know, is

1723
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 6: still sticking at a ten bucks. But look the way

1724
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 6: it's going at the moment, whether weather providing that ten

1725
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 6: dollars is certainly under threat. So Fonterra will come out

1726
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 6: in early December, I think it's December the fifth, and

1727
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 6: they will have a look at that milk forecast price

1728
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 6: for the twenty five twenty sixth season, the futures market,

1729
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 6: interestingly is at nine dollars sixty two, and perhaps more worryingly,

1730
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 6: although it's a long time out and we've got a

1731
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 6: lot of water to go under the bridge before then,

1732
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 6: twenty six to twenty seven season is at eight dollars

1733
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 6: ninety three, and I can speak for dairy farmers on

1734
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 6: this one. Ten bucks was a great price. Nine to

1735
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 6: fifty is still a good price. When you start getting

1736
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 6: under nine bucks. Bearing in mind dairy and Zed said

1737
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 6: the cost of production something like eight dollars sixty, it

1738
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 6: becomes a wee bit more marginal.

1739
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Speaker 3: Jamie, thank you very much. Good to talk to you.

1740
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 4: And when I was going to say, we'll talk to

1741
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: you again on Thursday, but it is Thursday, isn't it.

1742
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 4: Jamie McKay, host of the Country twenty past six.

1743
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: The Rural Report on Heather do drive.

1744
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you missed two days out of

1745
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 4: your weekend. Really, it really messes with you, doesn't it.

1746
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 3: It's not it's not a pleasant thing. Now, Heather got

1747
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 3: the six. Have a listen to what Bush said. That's

1748
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 3: not what he said.

1749
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 4: He skipped around it, which is a fair point because

1750
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 4: what I'd said is he's not going to roll luxon,

1751
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 4: but he didn't actually say he's not.

1752
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: Going to roll luxe in.

1753
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 4: But then I didn't actually ask him that did I said,

1754
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 4: is luck and good at his job? And he said, yeah,

1755
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 4: it's difficult. He's good at his job. And I said

1756
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 4: should he keep his job? And he was like, he's

1757
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 4: good at his job.

1758
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 3: He totally dodged that question. But then but then the

1759
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: problem was I couldn't. I couldn't.

1760
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 4: I just could not focus on that because all I

1761
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 4: could focus on was this. Now, we're just not going

1762
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 4: to talk to the man anymore because he like you've

1763
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: heard it twice. Now, you know that's enough, isn't it.

1764
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 4: He he has he's still I mean, he may still

1765
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 4: have designs on being the Prime Minister, and if he does,

1766
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 4: he absolutely does not need to be tormented by this.

1767
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 4: Just well, now, Cooperative Bank switch subjects on entirely Cooperative Bank.

1768
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 4: Can I just draw your attention to this? Cooperative Bank

1769
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 4: reckons it's the only bank to have passed on all

1770
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 4: of the OCR cuts.

1771
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 3: It reckons that since the time their reserve.

1772
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 4: Banks started cutting the OCR, which it's cut three hundred

1773
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: basis points, Cooperative has passed on to its customers three

1774
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: hundred and ten basis points. It reckons the other major

1775
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 4: banks have only passed on about two hundred and fifty

1776
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 4: five to two hundred and seventy five. And it reckons

1777
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 4: if the other major banks had done what it had done,

1778
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 4: kiwis would be saving about one hundred million dollars plus

1779
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 4: every single year in unnecessary interest that we're paying. Obviously,

1780
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 4: the big bank's not going to take this. They've got

1781
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 4: their version of what's going on. They say, well, they're

1782
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: not passing on all of the cuts because they didn't

1783
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 4: pass on all of the hikes, so they don't have

1784
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 4: to pass on all of the cuts.

1785
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: But whatever.

1786
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 4: All I would say about this is you can shop around.

1787
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 4: If you feel like you're paying too much, go and

1788
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 4: have a look at Cooperative Bank because it looks like

1789
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 4: a really decent offering six twenty two.

1790
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: Whether it's made crow micro or just plain economics, it's

1791
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: all on the Business hour with they had the duper

1792
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: c Allen and mass motor vehicle insurance, Your futures in

1793
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: good hands us talks.

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01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 4: That'd be by the way, I'd I'd meant to mention

1795
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 4: earlier because I said a couple of hours ago that

1796
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: I would talk about the bad stat for Raiser. The

1797
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 4: bad stat for Raiser is that this year is the

1798
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: All Blacks worst year on record for how much they

1799
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 4: have lost their matches by. So if you if you

1800
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 4: add up the three the three big losses is a

1801
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 4: total of fifty three points, so they're lost to South Africa.

1802
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 4: Remember the forty three to ten Shoka, they lost by

1803
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 4: a margin of thirty three points. Then they lost by

1804
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 4: a margin this weekend of fourteen points to England, and

1805
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 4: then when they lost to Argentina, they lost by a

1806
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 4: margin of six points. Add them all up as fifty

1807
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 4: three points.

1808
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 6: Right.

1809
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 4: That even beats Fozzy's worst, which was back in twenty

1810
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 4: twenty two, he lost by a margin of forty four points,

1811
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: six to twenty six.

1812
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

1813
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 19: Bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way.

1814
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 4: It's beginning to look a lot like megmus It's like

1815
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 4: Meghan Markel, obviously Duchess of Sussex. She's just debuted the

1816
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 4: first look at her upcoming Christmas special show.

1817
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 3: The thing is called With Love Meghan, and this is

1818
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 3: the Christmas version.

1819
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 24: Left the festivities commence and embrace the special touches that

1820
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 24: bring you joy.

1821
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: Should we see if this works? There we go?

1822
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 3: Now, how do you think they filmed that? Did they

1823
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 3: film that last Christmas? Or did they just fake it

1824
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 3: Christmas for it?

1825
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 4: Anyway, So she says she's giving people an inside look,

1826
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 4: an exclusive look into how she and the Duke and

1827
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 4: Archie and little bit Lilabit celebrate Christmas and alongside some

1828
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 4: of her very special guests and friends like Naomi Osucka

1829
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 4: and that a bunch of people.

1830
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 3: You've never heard of before.

1831
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 4: The drama though, is that a lot of people think

1832
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 4: Meghan is being a bit shady, as in like she's

1833
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 4: throwing shade because she posted the trailer just minutes before

1834
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: William and Kate had the red carpet at the Annual

1835
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 4: Royal Variety performance. So obviously, even if it was a coincidence,

1836
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 4: people think it was planned.

1837
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 3: Don't they now?

1838
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 4: If you are, for reasons best known to yourself, chomping

1839
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 4: at the bit to see how the Markels celebrate the holidays.

1840
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 4: The special edition of With Love Meghan will drop on

1841
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 4: Netflix December third. The Daily Mail in the UK ask

1842
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: people do you like seeing Meghan and Harry share their

1843
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 4: holiday traditions and six percent said yes.

1844
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: And ninety four percent said no.

1845
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 4: So I don't know how that's going to go for Netflix,

1846
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 4: but probably not that well. Sam Dick is with us

1847
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,520
Speaker 4: next on AI and Nvidia's.

1848
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: Results, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour,

1849
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: we hand the duper c Allen and Mass motor vehicle insurance,

1850
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 1: your futures in good hands.

1851
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: Used talks'd be.

1852
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 4: What I say, knew what there was an hour and

1853
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 4: a half ago. I said, keep an eye out for it,

1854
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 4: because we'll get the numbers. And sure enough, we've got

1855
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 4: the numbers. It's six police staff who've been stood down.

1856
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 4: Three of them are actually under criminal investigation. The cops

1857
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 4: are saying the six in total have been stood down

1858
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 4: a being investigated for serious matters ranging from potentially accessing

1859
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,799
Speaker 4: objectionable material through to accessing inappropriate material, while also subject

1860
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 4: to separate misconduct matters, but in the old Gemick skimming problem.

1861
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 4: By the looks of things, twenty four away from seven now,

1862
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 4: the AI bubble may not be popping anytime soon.

1863
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 3: If you have a look at what's just happened to Nvidia.

1864
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 4: The latest quarterly results smashed expectations off the back of

1865
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 4: fierce demand for its chips to power the AI. It

1866
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 4: recorded a revenue of a tick over fifty seven billion

1867
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 4: US dollars. It's a twenty two percent jump from the

1868
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 4: previous quarter. And Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us.

1869
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 4: Hello Sam, Hello, Heava, Now what did you make of

1870
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 4: this result? And what did we learn about the broad

1871
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 4: health of AI as a result of it.

1872
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean you said it was another stonking result

1873
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 21: from the biggest company on Earth. So revenue and earnings,

1874
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 21: we already saw pretty lofty or inflated expectations, but they

1875
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 21: beat expectations by about three percent for the quarter, and

1876
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 21: critically they guided forecast revenue and profit to beat the

1877
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 21: expectations by even more, about four to five percent. So,

1878
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 21: as you said, there was fairly palpable fear for the

1879
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 21: last i'd say probably ten trading sessions in the market

1880
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 21: that the AI bubble was bursting. And this has at

1881
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 21: the very least temporarily calmed the market. So we saw

1882
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 21: that play out after market in videos, yeares jump five percent,

1883
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,839
Speaker 21: and any stock it even smells like it is exposed

1884
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 21: to AI, they rarely pretty hard. So Applied micro Devices, Oracle, Broadcom, Google, Amazon, Meta,

1885
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 21: Microsoft all up two to four percent after ours.

1886
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 3: Did it calm fears of the bursting of the AI bubble?

1887
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1888
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 21: I think it has at least temporarily. So you know,

1889
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 21: every time he reports, Jensen is getting more and more

1890
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 21: granular with his with his guidance and his forecast. He's

1891
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 21: now sort of forecasting half a trillion dollars of revenue

1892
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 21: to be shipped over the next sort of fourteen months,

1893
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 21: and that's getting quite specific, and he as good a

1894
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 21: line of sight on that. So I do think this

1895
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 21: was a critical result, and for now fears are calmed.

1896
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 4: Okay, now I want to talk about something else as well,

1897
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 4: which is the US consumer. Tell me what you make

1898
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 4: of the health of the US consumer. If you look

1899
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 4: through the eyes of home Depot, target, you know that

1900
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 4: kind of.

1901
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 21: Thing definitely a vastly different story for the all important

1902
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 21: US consumer. So those companies were generally all incrementally more cautious.

1903
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 21: So home Depot think of minor tenor Bunnings on steroids,

1904
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 21: and one of the biggest retailers in the US said,

1905
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 21: consumer uncertainty and continued pressure and housing are disproportionately impacting

1906
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 21: home improvement demand. And importantly, while it had been primarily

1907
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 21: the lowering consumer that was hurting hither you and I

1908
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 21: have talked about that, that is now spreading to the

1909
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 21: middle income consumer target the massive general merchandise. I said,

1910
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,879
Speaker 21: consumers are continuing to trade down and he cheekily equipped

1911
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 21: about Christmas. He said people will prioritize what goes under

1912
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 21: the tree rather than spinning unnecessarily on what goes on

1913
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 21: the tree, and Low's competes with Home Depot. While feeling

1914
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 21: it a little less said, visibility remains poor.

1915
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 3: What does this all mean for investors?

1916
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 7: Do you think?

1917
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 21: I think it really shines a clear spotlight on the

1918
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 21: extraordinary two speed economy in the US AI and all

1919
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 21: spinning related to AI and everything else. So it's a

1920
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 21: reminder that a couple of handfuls of AI winners in

1921
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 21: the S and P five hundred since chat GPT was

1922
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 21: launched in November twenty twenty two, like the start of

1923
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 21: the modern AI bonanza, those stocks have driven seventy five

1924
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 21: percent of the gains, and the S and P five

1925
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 21: hundred eighty percent of the growth and earnings and ninety

1926
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 21: percent of the growth and capital expenditure.

1927
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: And outside of that, the.

1928
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 21: Economy remains or visibility on the economy remains very very poor.

1929
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much.

1930
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 4: Sam has always appreciated and we'll talk to you again

1931
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 4: soon that Sam Dicky official funds coming up to twenty

1932
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: one away from seven yea the duplan Heather, what a

1933
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: load of rubbish by Chris Bishop, Get on with it.

1934
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 4: We Party voted national last time it's from Dennis obviously

1935
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 4: wants a road. Heither listening to Chris Bishop on the roads,

1936
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 4: it sounds like Northland are about to get screwed over again. Probably,

1937
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 4: I mean probably it's the easiest one, right because you can,

1938
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 4: I mean think like a politician. If you've only got

1939
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 4: so much dough to build on, to throw around at

1940
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 4: roads and build so many roads, you're going to go

1941
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 4: for the roads that are going to get you the

1942
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 4: most votes.

1943
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 3: And that's not going to be Northland, do is it?

1944
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 6: Now?

1945
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,480
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous, and this is getting more and more ridiculous.

1946
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 4: There is a piece in the New York Times today

1947
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 4: about a company called Rennie. I think that's how you

1948
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,440
Speaker 4: pronounce it, maybe Reenie, who knows This company is advertising

1949
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 4: skincare stuff online and face masks online to.

1950
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Three year odds.

1951
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 4: And then there's pictures of a company that you've got

1952
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 4: pictures of preschoolers with little face masks on to gel

1953
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 4: up their skin and make it all beautiful. That is ridiculous,

1954
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 4: because have you ever seen anybody with more flawless skin

1955
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Speaker 4: than a preschooler? Like their skin is beautiful already, you

1956
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Speaker 4: don't have to do anything with it. But apparently like

1957
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Speaker 4: it sounds like it's a reasonably lucrative mark because there

1958
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Speaker 4: are I mean, we've heard about this with the preteens,

1959
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Speaker 4: wrote the preteens are loving that store, and what's that

1960
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Speaker 4: makeup store called on?

1961
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Speaker 12: I was supposed to know what the makeup story is?

1962
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Speaker 8: Cooled?

1963
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Speaker 12: I just realized I have the skin of a three

1964
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 12: year old in here. The skin, the skin needs all

1965
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 12: the face lights that you can get, and it's not

1966
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Speaker 12: getting them.

1967
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Speaker 4: Oh talk about not the target audience. It's Mecca, isn't

1968
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 4: it the one that's on on the Ponsonby Road. Mecca,

1969
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Speaker 4: That's what it's.

1970
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 12: There's one on Queen's Street North in Central All.

1971
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one as well.

1972
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 4: When we went to Melbourne, my friend is obsessed with it.

1973
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 4: It is the biggest apparently it's the biggest mecha in

1974
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 4: the world or the Southern Hemisphere was something aware to go. Honestly,

1975
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 4: I hate it every minute of as what am I

1976
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 4: doing in this place? I went and sat with the

1977
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 4: husbands who are all sitting around this place sounding feeling miserable. Anyway,

1978
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 4: if you go into a meccha, you will just see

1979
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: all of these little kids, like little girls who do

1980
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 4: not need makeup, but they are a lucrative market. And

1981
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 4: now that they're tapping into the preteens where sorry, the preschoolers,

1982
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 4: which is nuts. Apparently in the States, households who have

1983
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 4: age between seven and twelve, right, think about how small

1984
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 4: that is. Seven and twelve spent close to two point

1985
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 4: five billion dollars on skincare, presumably for the kids last year.

1986
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Speaker 3: That's nut.

1987
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Speaker 4: So now I'm going to call out some bad advice

1988
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 4: when I see bad advice. There is a piece online

1989
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Speaker 4: telling you how to make small talk at Christmas parties,

1990
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 4: because of course the Christmas parties are coming up soon,

1991
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 4: and a lot of people freak out about it. I

1992
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 4: mean a lot of people think, like lord to, I

1993
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 4: want to go to the Christmas party and bump into

1994
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 4: the CEO and have to make small talk and know

1995
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Speaker 4: something about him and I don't know anything about him,

1996
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Speaker 4: And how am I going to get through?

1997
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Speaker 3: And am I going to get fired? Or am I

1998
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: going to get a pay rise based on this small talk?

1999
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Speaker 4: So this piece online is giving you some advice on

2000
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 4: the small talk, and some of this stuff is reasonable.

2001
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Speaker 3: It's like, ask people where they're from, where do they live,

2002
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 3: do they have kids?

2003
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Speaker 8: You know?

2004
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 3: That kind of thing like that. People love talking about themselves,

2005
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: so off they go and you can get to know

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Speaker 3: genuinely get to know them.

2007
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 4: But then this comedian his name is Sam Smith. He

2008
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 4: warms up audiences for like seven days and stuff like that. Right,

2009
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 4: so he knows how to like a fluffer person, make

2010
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 4: a person feel good. Has advice for how to do

2011
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 4: small talk was to just randomly like, You'll be like,

2012
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Speaker 4: how you.

2013
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Speaker 3: Going, Michael? Where do you live?

2014
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Speaker 6: Oh?

2015
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Speaker 3: Yeah, alleslie? If that's near one? Hunger, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

2017
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Speaker 3: Do you gotta be yank?

2018
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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes?

2019
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Speaker 3: Then his advice is just to randomly be like can

2020
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Speaker 3: I would you rather? Michael? Would you rather? And this

2021
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 3: is what he said, You need to ask if you

2022
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Speaker 3: had to murder someone, would you rather murder? And then

2023
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 3: give them two options?

2024
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Speaker 4: And is that not the worst piece of advice you've

2025
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 4: ever heard about small talk? Like, imagine if you're standing

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01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: at a Christmas cocktail party and the accountant comes up

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01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 4: to you and is like, blah blah blahh Hey, here's

2028
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 4: one for you. If you had to murder someone, would

2029
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 4: you rather murder the CEO or the chief audio officer?

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Speaker 4: I mean, at that point I would be like, oh,

2031
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 4: dear God, I think I'd be calling security, wouldn't you.

2032
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Speaker 4: I would certainly not want to talk to that person anyway.

2033
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,799
Speaker 4: That's bad advice. So just if you see this article,

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01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 4: just go like this through that.

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Speaker 3: Nope, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: How to get out of conversations though good advice. Okay,

2037
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 4: what you do is you say you need a drink.

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01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 4: That's always the go to one. The trouble is, if

2039
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 4: you've just got a fresh drink, you can't use that

2040
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 4: one unless you want to get very drunk. You probably

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01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: don't want to use that. You could do one where

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01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 4: you say, oh, I really need to go to the bathroom,

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 4: excuse me, and that's okay as well. You can fake

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Speaker 4: a phone call, but that's dicey because if you fake

2045
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 4: a phone call and then a real phone call comes in,

2046
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 4: you're gonna get busted. So whatever you do, you know,

2047
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 4: like you just be aware that there are some pitfalls.

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01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 4: But then Sam Smith strikes again. He strikes again, and

2049
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 4: he said, if they do not take your verbal que

2050
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,839
Speaker 4: and they keep talking, just tell them you have diarrhea.

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Speaker 4: And there is no way anybody's going to keep you

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01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 4: around after that. Once again questionable, questionable advice sixteen away

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Speaker 4: from seven.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with.

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Speaker 1: Money, it matters to you. The Business Hour with Heather

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01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: Dupericy Allen and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your futures in

2057
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: good hands US talks.

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Speaker 4: That'd be just a quick update on Turners, because we

2059
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 4: love turners on this program. Turners the car people, you

2060
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 4: know with the Tina from two. They've posted a record

2061
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 4: first half result. Net profit is in a twenty two million.

2062
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 4: This is versus like nineteen and a half last time.

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01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 4: Revenue is two hundred and nineteen million or thereabouts. Also

2064
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 4: up they reckon their margins are up on owned stock

2065
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 4: and financing because they do the financing as well. Financing

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Speaker 4: is the biggest growth engine for the business. Eighteen percent

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01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 4: year on year profit growth there thirteen away from seven.

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Speaker 4: Right now in end of Brady a UK correspondence with

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Speaker 4: us elo ender, Heather, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank You've got a Russian ship near you, have you?

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Speaker 14: Yes, just outside the UK waters off the coast of Scotland.

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Speaker 14: It's called the Yantar and this ship basically sails around

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Speaker 14: European waters observing and monitoring cables undersea cables. It is

2074
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Speaker 14: not there to send Christmas cards. It is not there

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Speaker 14: for the good of anyone in the United Kingdom or

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Speaker 14: Western Europe. It's a Russian spyship. This story takes a twist, however,

2077
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Speaker 14: because the UK Defense Secretary John Healy has held a

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Speaker 14: special press conference. He's come out and said that the

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Speaker 14: ORIF pilots were flying overhead recently observing just keeping an

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01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 14: eye on what the Russians are doing, basically, and they

2081
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 14: were subjected to laser beams being directed at them from

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01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 14: this Russian ship, the Antar. So the UK government has

2083
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 14: had enough. Heally has come out and said, look directly

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01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 14: to Vladimir Putin in this news conference, we see you,

2085
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 14: we see what you were doing, and if that ship

2086
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 14: moves into UK waters, we will be there in seconds.

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Speaker 14: So it's getting very very interesting that the Russians have

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Speaker 14: the cheek.

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Speaker 6: To do this.

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01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is now.

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01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 4: I Meanwhile, though, domestic matters, so the Labor and psrick

2092
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 4: and they've got the numbers to roll so Kia.

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01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 14: Yes, this is a group on the left of the

2094
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 14: Labor Party called the Tribune Group, and they clearly feel

2095
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 14: that the time has come to get rid of Keir Starmer.

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01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 14: Now they need eighty members of Parliament, eighty elected Labor

2097
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 14: MPs to oust a sitting Labor minister. And there's been

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01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 14: a lot of speculation lately about Will west streeting the

2099
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,879
Speaker 14: Health Secretary, move will Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Manchester,

2100
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 14: try and get back into Parliament to get Starmar out,

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01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 14: and this group suddenly out of nowhere, have let it

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Speaker 14: be known that guess what, guys, we've got the numbers.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 14: I think nothing's going to happen before Christmas, but clearly

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01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 14: plans are a foot, and I say plans plural inside

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01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 14: the Labor Party to get Starmar out. We've got local

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01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 14: elections coming.

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Speaker 2: Up in May.

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Speaker 14: Do they wait until a disastrous set of local elections

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01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 14: and reform and Nigel Faras smashing the polls and winning,

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Speaker 14: or did they move beforehand. It's fascinating to see what's

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01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 14: going to happen next.

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Speaker 3: But if they've got the numbers, why don't they move immediately?

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Speaker 14: Because I think some of them want Andy Burnham, the

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01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 14: Mayor of Manchester, to be the next Prime Minister and

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01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 14: he can't do that because he's not a member of Parliament.

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01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 14: So to get burn him in, they've got to get

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01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 14: someone to put their hand up and say yeah, you

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01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 14: can have my seat. And basically Turkeys are not going

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01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 14: to vote for Christmas. I can't see any MP suddenly

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01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 14: turning around saying yeah, you can have my seat.

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Speaker 3: Cheeze. Well that's a really convoluted plan, isn't it.

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01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 6: In that?

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01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 4: I mean, like if you've got the numbers, but you're

2125
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 4: waiting for somebody to basically fall on this sword to

2126
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 4: let Andy, and then Andy has to be ready for it.

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01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 4: I mean that could take quite some time, couldn't it,

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Speaker 4: by which time we freetings.

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 2: In Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 14: Look, when you talk about plans and labor people, they

2131
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 14: waited fourteen years to get into government and quite clearly

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01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 14: there was no plan. That's what we're seeing. I mean,

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01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 14: there's no communication. Starmer was described to me by someone

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01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 14: very senior in Westminster last week as a dud and

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01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 14: I just think they're really really struggling. But clearly moves

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Speaker 14: are afoot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's interesting. Now listen what's going on with

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01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 4: the wistin shops in London.

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Speaker 14: So there's a big fear over the reporting and the

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01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 14: narrative around crime in London and phone snatching and that

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01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 14: if you come in for a day to do your

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01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 14: Christmas shopping, if you come in from the countryside in

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01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 14: the home counties, you get to train in big family traditions.

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01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 14: You know, everyone goes to London shopping in the West End,

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01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 14: Regent Street, Oxford Street, Bond Street. You know, there is

2146
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 14: a lot of crime in London, but a lot of

2147
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 14: the businesses feel that it's being overhyped and the end

2148
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 14: result is families are staying away. So the head that

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01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 14: off six hundred businesses have got together. Clearly the police

2150
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 14: are super stretched anyway, but these six hundred businesses have

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01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 14: got together and said, right, we'll fund our own private

2152
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 14: security patrols to keep the area safe. So that's where

2153
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 14: we're at in London. The police are so stretched that

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01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 14: shops are clubbing together to pay private security. And that

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01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 14: stories out there today and they hope that families will

2156
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 14: see this and think, actually, you know what, it is

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01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 14: safe to go into London.

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Speaker 4: Jees, that's a pretty die. You've been talking about this

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Speaker 4: for a very long time. Into I appreciate it. Into

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Speaker 4: Brady UK Correspondent. It's eid away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Hither Duplas Alan Drive Full Show podcast on right,

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Speaker 1: powered by newstalk zby.

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Speaker 3: Hither. I'm just back from London and it is shite.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 4: I sort of I don't mind hearing this, by the way,

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01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 4: because I feel like so many of us are my

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01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 4: little brothers like this. When I say little, I mean

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Speaker 4: he's a fully grown man, but he, you know, always

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Speaker 4: little to the big sister. But lots of youngish people

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Speaker 4: are like this. They're like, I just want to move

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Speaker 4: to London and have a great life. I want to

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Speaker 4: move to Sydney and have a great life. So I'm

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Speaker 4: just going to tell you all the bad things happening

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Speaker 4: in those parts of the world so that you can

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Speaker 4: understand it's not all roses out there. Five away from

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Speaker 4: seven now I'm speaking of which I need to talk

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Speaker 4: about Tory Tory Fano because Tory is moving to Melbourne

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Speaker 4: as well, because you know, and we did talk about

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Speaker 4: this yesterday because she said she was going to do it,

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Speaker 4: but she didn't give her reasons yesterday and today she

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Speaker 4: has given her.

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Speaker 3: Reasons, and there are three reasons. Some of it is worked.

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Speaker 3: She says, there are very limited roles that align with

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Speaker 3: her experience in governance, leadership and politics. In New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Second reason is she loves Melbourne. But the third reason

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Speaker 3: is the abuse.

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Speaker 4: She says the intensity of political life in New Zealand

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Speaker 4: has become increasingly personal. Now, I am not going to

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Speaker 4: condone abuse, right, I mean, and I don't know where

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Speaker 4: Tory sits on the scale of abuse to criticism, right,

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Speaker 4: I think I think Tory has been criticized very heavily,

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Speaker 4: quite rightly. And look, maybe she looks at that and

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Speaker 4: she thinks that's abuse, and I don't think it's abuse.

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Speaker 4: Abuse is not okay. Criticism is okay, lots of criticism

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Speaker 4: when Tory's way, I'm okay with criticism. However, she cannot

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Speaker 4: complain about it being overly personal because it was Tory

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Speaker 4: who made it personal in the first place, wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: And Tory told us about her ADHD. Tory told us

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Speaker 4: about her alcoholism. Tory told us she's just volunteered, that

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Speaker 4: she was having to sell the car to pay the bills. Right,

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Speaker 4: if you make it personal, you cannot complain if it

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Speaker 4: is personal. But anyway, Tory is often I will share

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Speaker 4: the best of luck over in Melbourne. I'll find some

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Speaker 4: bad stuff going on in Melbourne. Tell you all about

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Speaker 4: it in a minute.

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Speaker 12: Murder on the Dance stor by Sophiella speaks to the

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Speaker 12: class out tonight. News this out today that she is

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Speaker 12: coming to New Zealand. She'll be playing two shows. On

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Speaker 12: February the third shall be playing at the way cut

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Speaker 12: Ole Regional Theatre in Hamilton, and on February the fourth

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Speaker 12: shall be playing at James Hay Theater in christ Church.

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Speaker 12: If you want to go to that. The I believe

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Speaker 12: our sister stations Zidim has some tickets that they're giving away,

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Speaker 12: so he to their social media pages. But not right

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Speaker 12: now because sports talks about the staff. O.

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Speaker 4: Hey listen, I mean we have to talk about the

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Speaker 4: weird thing here. Why are you playing Hamilton and not

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Speaker 4: all clans?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 12: And I was looking at this, so why kind of

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Speaker 12: origional theater is just opening next year? It's brand new

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Speaker 12: in Hamilton. It's about thirteen hundred seats in the auditorium,

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Speaker 12: so I don't know how much it can feel, probably

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Speaker 12: more than that. So that's about the size of Spark Arena.

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Speaker 12: Hamilton's growing, you mean thirteen thousand, thirteen thousand, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's going to say geez, that's a small concert Sophie,

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Speaker 3: what happened? Oh?

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Speaker 12: Did I mean thirteen hundred? Anyway? Maybe that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: That's weird. It's weird. It's a can you do some research?

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Speaker 12: Anscart it is thirteen hundred?

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Speaker 8: Never mind?

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Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, we don't Yeah, no idea.

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Speaker 3: Is it thirteen hundred not thirteen thousand?

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Speaker 23: No?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I lift a zero off.

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Speaker 3: That's so bad. You are going to have to.

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Speaker 4: I want research on this ants for tomorrow, and I

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Speaker 4: want to understand what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Why is she gone to Hamilton or Auckland strange? Are

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Speaker 3: you okay with that? Are you okay with that? Issuing

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Speaker 3: of instruction to you?

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Speaker 8: Yees?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I can run of find it, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Okay. He's going to come back with facts on Sophie.

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Speaker 3: See you tomorrow.

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