1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,587 Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B Table Topping. 3 00:00:13,707 --> 00:00:16,427 Speaker 2: Chiefs have hung on for a thirty two to thirty 4 00:00:16,467 --> 00:00:19,587 Speaker 2: one win over the Blues in Hamilton, making it two 5 00:00:19,627 --> 00:00:23,147 Speaker 2: from two over the defending Super Rugby champions. 6 00:00:22,667 --> 00:00:25,347 Speaker 1: Curling it back, curling it back, it off. 7 00:00:25,387 --> 00:00:29,347 Speaker 3: It was up the post and missus Oh, he did 8 00:00:29,387 --> 00:00:32,307 Speaker 3: everything right and hits the post and bounces back into 9 00:00:32,307 --> 00:00:34,747 Speaker 3: the field to play. You gotama has it. 10 00:00:34,947 --> 00:00:36,547 Speaker 2: There's the whistle, there's the thing. 11 00:00:36,747 --> 00:00:38,747 Speaker 3: Radham is going to do one thing with us into 12 00:00:38,747 --> 00:00:41,187 Speaker 3: this stand that goes and it's going to be the 13 00:00:41,307 --> 00:00:45,307 Speaker 3: takes thirty two points, Blue thirty one points. What a 14 00:00:45,427 --> 00:00:46,947 Speaker 3: game of rugby here in Hamilton? 15 00:00:47,067 --> 00:00:48,547 Speaker 2: What a game of rugby? And d That is the 16 00:00:48,627 --> 00:00:51,547 Speaker 2: voice of Graham Minty Mead, who calls Chiefs games for 17 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:55,507 Speaker 2: us on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Were you willing that 18 00:00:55,707 --> 00:00:57,507 Speaker 2: last conversion hit the Postminty? 19 00:00:57,587 --> 00:01:00,987 Speaker 3: Were you by that time? Piny? I had no idea 20 00:01:01,067 --> 00:01:03,307 Speaker 3: what was going to happen? Numb. It was one of 21 00:01:03,307 --> 00:01:05,947 Speaker 3: those games you just sat back in war and thought, 22 00:01:06,107 --> 00:01:08,627 Speaker 3: what's just gone on? It was nearly four minutes before 23 00:01:08,707 --> 00:01:11,667 Speaker 3: the first stoppage after the kickoff and it didn't stop. 24 00:01:12,347 --> 00:01:16,347 Speaker 3: Intense footy and wow, what a win for the Chiefs. 25 00:01:16,347 --> 00:01:17,827 Speaker 3: But how good were the Blues too? 26 00:01:18,027 --> 00:01:20,787 Speaker 2: They were they were very good and it was like 27 00:01:22,267 --> 00:01:24,627 Speaker 2: on the table, it was top the bottom pretty much. 28 00:01:24,947 --> 00:01:27,187 Speaker 2: But it certainly didn't look like that and it was 29 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:29,387 Speaker 2: never going to be when the Chiefs play the Blues. 30 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:31,947 Speaker 2: I mean, they're defending champions. Do you think, you know, 31 00:01:32,347 --> 00:01:35,027 Speaker 2: having given up the overnight test and on the across 32 00:01:35,027 --> 00:01:37,067 Speaker 2: the eighty odd minutes, do you think the Chiefs deserve 33 00:01:37,187 --> 00:01:37,547 Speaker 2: to win? 34 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:41,427 Speaker 3: Well? I think that rugby was so intense. There are 35 00:01:41,507 --> 00:01:43,747 Speaker 3: lots of mistakes. There were lots of errors we got. 36 00:01:43,947 --> 00:01:46,107 Speaker 3: The Chiefs got a couple of lucky tries that McKenzie 37 00:01:46,147 --> 00:01:49,707 Speaker 3: won where the ball went behind him and both to 38 00:01:49,827 --> 00:01:52,787 Speaker 3: Ali and Jouanni ran past him and he grabbed the 39 00:01:52,787 --> 00:01:56,187 Speaker 3: ball and dipped around and scored. That was a fortunate try. 40 00:01:56,227 --> 00:01:59,307 Speaker 3: It wasn't anything too flash, but some of the crossfield 41 00:01:59,387 --> 00:02:03,147 Speaker 3: kicking to the wingers, there was some special rugby in 42 00:02:03,187 --> 00:02:05,867 Speaker 3: that fining and I just thought I've never come away 43 00:02:05,867 --> 00:02:09,227 Speaker 3: from a game so probably naked. Was Gordy was the 44 00:02:09,227 --> 00:02:11,787 Speaker 3: same David Fox? They said that was just an incredible 45 00:02:11,787 --> 00:02:13,707 Speaker 3: game of footy and whoever one I deserved it. 46 00:02:14,107 --> 00:02:16,427 Speaker 2: Do you think the Blues have what it takes to 47 00:02:16,827 --> 00:02:19,147 Speaker 2: get out of this sort of slump that they are in. 48 00:02:19,187 --> 00:02:21,267 Speaker 2: I mean they're defending champions after all, but you look 49 00:02:21,307 --> 00:02:25,267 Speaker 2: at the table played five, one, one, last four. Do 50 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:26,987 Speaker 2: you think they're still a top six side? 51 00:02:28,027 --> 00:02:30,227 Speaker 3: Well they should be, Let's just be honest. They lost 52 00:02:30,587 --> 00:02:33,347 Speaker 3: ton A Farsi and Caleb Clark just before kickoff last 53 00:02:33,387 --> 00:02:35,907 Speaker 3: night and the Chiefs like Anton Lennard Brown and I 54 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:37,787 Speaker 3: think that made a bit of difference to their prep. 55 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:40,907 Speaker 3: But man, they've got some talent out there, young Cam Christy, 56 00:02:40,987 --> 00:02:43,707 Speaker 3: this number six, the North Harbor Locke's playing on the flank. 57 00:02:44,107 --> 00:02:46,067 Speaker 3: I think he was dynamic last night for a twenty 58 00:02:46,107 --> 00:02:48,947 Speaker 3: year old. And they've got the gears that just needs 59 00:02:48,987 --> 00:02:51,067 Speaker 3: to click and I'm not sure what's causing it not 60 00:02:51,147 --> 00:02:53,707 Speaker 3: to click. But if we're going to get rugby like 61 00:02:53,747 --> 00:02:54,907 Speaker 3: that every week, I'm all for that. 62 00:02:56,267 --> 00:03:00,067 Speaker 2: Look yeah, I think Look they'll they'll be fine. I 63 00:03:00,147 --> 00:03:02,107 Speaker 2: really believe they'll be fine. And they've had a pretty 64 00:03:02,627 --> 00:03:05,027 Speaker 2: tough start of it the Chiefs twice for a start, 65 00:03:05,147 --> 00:03:09,027 Speaker 2: But as I say, Crusaders next week. But just on 66 00:03:09,067 --> 00:03:13,547 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Damie McKenzie obviously stands out and when he plays, 67 00:03:13,547 --> 00:03:17,427 Speaker 2: they look a different outfit. But who else caught your 68 00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:19,307 Speaker 2: eye in a Chiefs jersey last night. 69 00:03:20,307 --> 00:03:23,387 Speaker 3: Well he took the Damien McKenzie. I'm a but worried 70 00:03:23,387 --> 00:03:25,867 Speaker 3: about the kicking that's going on in Super Rugby this time. 71 00:03:26,067 --> 00:03:27,987 Speaker 3: It seems to be affecting them all. The kicking's not 72 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:30,987 Speaker 3: good from anyone. But I still look at Quincy Pie 73 00:03:31,067 --> 00:03:33,347 Speaker 3: the guy. He was working around the rucks and mauls 74 00:03:33,347 --> 00:03:37,107 Speaker 3: at second five. He's reinvented himself since that bad injury 75 00:03:37,107 --> 00:03:40,787 Speaker 3: he's got. He's just aggressive and solid in that second five. 76 00:03:40,827 --> 00:03:43,467 Speaker 3: And probably you look down at and they go Jerome 77 00:03:43,507 --> 00:03:46,307 Speaker 3: Brown as in Anne McAllister from the Crusaders and Jerome 78 00:03:46,387 --> 00:03:49,267 Speaker 3: Brown II. If they are not the two best buyers 79 00:03:49,307 --> 00:03:50,987 Speaker 3: of the season, the Chiefs have picked up, I go 80 00:03:51,187 --> 00:03:54,507 Speaker 3: he They have really just slotted into this the side 81 00:03:54,547 --> 00:03:56,147 Speaker 3: and made the places their own. 82 00:03:56,867 --> 00:03:59,667 Speaker 2: I think there was probably a bit of not concern, 83 00:03:59,787 --> 00:04:03,227 Speaker 2: maybe mild concern that Wallace Atzi wasn't going to be 84 00:04:03,267 --> 00:04:05,827 Speaker 2: there for you this season, given what a huge impact 85 00:04:05,867 --> 00:04:08,107 Speaker 2: he had last season. But you're right, mate, you know 86 00:04:08,347 --> 00:04:11,227 Speaker 2: you loose forwards, they've hardly skipped a beat now, they 87 00:04:11,227 --> 00:04:13,187 Speaker 2: even off the bench. When a guy like you know, 88 00:04:13,267 --> 00:04:15,307 Speaker 2: some of Penny Female comes off the bench and makes 89 00:04:15,307 --> 00:04:18,827 Speaker 2: a massive difference, the loose forward cohort would probably be 90 00:04:18,867 --> 00:04:21,347 Speaker 2: the envy I think of most of the other teams. 91 00:04:22,347 --> 00:04:24,227 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're right. When when wallis a TEDI 92 00:04:24,467 --> 00:04:26,547 Speaker 3: opted out for the season with the injury, we thought, 93 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:28,747 Speaker 3: who's going to replace this kid? Because he is he's 94 00:04:28,787 --> 00:04:31,827 Speaker 3: a freak, he's there's something absolutely special about him. And 95 00:04:32,267 --> 00:04:35,707 Speaker 3: suddenly upsteps Simon Parker, Luke Jacobson steps up. We've got 96 00:04:35,787 --> 00:04:39,867 Speaker 3: Jerome Brown coming, We've got Samma penny Fee now, and 97 00:04:39,907 --> 00:04:42,507 Speaker 3: the list just goes on. And these guys are really 98 00:04:42,547 --> 00:04:44,987 Speaker 3: playing well. And Xavier Row spoke to me yesterday morning. 99 00:04:44,987 --> 00:04:46,907 Speaker 3: He said it's just he said, it's lovely to have 100 00:04:46,947 --> 00:04:49,987 Speaker 3: the protection he's got from the forwards as a halfback, 101 00:04:50,027 --> 00:04:52,427 Speaker 3: and you don't hear that very often. So they have 102 00:04:52,467 --> 00:04:54,547 Speaker 3: stepped up. I think that's the bones of it. And 103 00:04:54,587 --> 00:04:58,187 Speaker 3: Tupu Vai he's been part captain this year. He's gone 104 00:04:58,187 --> 00:05:00,467 Speaker 3: another leg man is he's strong and playing good rugby. 105 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:03,627 Speaker 3: He's becoming to Brady Rettalick. He's now starting to get 106 00:05:03,667 --> 00:05:05,507 Speaker 3: that maturity and he's just getting better and better. 107 00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:07,747 Speaker 2: How do you I think these Chiefs guys are handling 108 00:05:07,747 --> 00:05:11,507 Speaker 2: it with Clayton McMillan clearly, you know, using players in 109 00:05:11,547 --> 00:05:15,227 Speaker 2: different roles. You talked about Summer Penny Female, Xavier ro 110 00:05:15,387 --> 00:05:18,627 Speaker 2: started Cortez Latimer probably has a very good case to 111 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:20,507 Speaker 2: start rugby matches given the fact that he's an All 112 00:05:20,547 --> 00:05:23,987 Speaker 2: Black and Xavier Row is not. I look at Summersuni TALKIYO. 113 00:05:24,027 --> 00:05:26,147 Speaker 2: He's come back in, but he's starting off the bench. 114 00:05:26,547 --> 00:05:28,107 Speaker 2: How do you think these players are dealing with the 115 00:05:28,107 --> 00:05:31,067 Speaker 2: fact that Clayton McMillan doesn't mind mixing and matching his 116 00:05:31,147 --> 00:05:32,627 Speaker 2: starting fifteen with his reserves. 117 00:05:33,787 --> 00:05:36,187 Speaker 3: Well, we talked to them. Clayton's got a plan, and 118 00:05:36,227 --> 00:05:38,747 Speaker 3: he's got a plan that involves the whole name squad 119 00:05:39,227 --> 00:05:41,667 Speaker 3: and they've got specific jobs and he's finding at the 120 00:05:41,667 --> 00:05:45,027 Speaker 3: moment Ratham are and eph Female and Tacky Ajo coming 121 00:05:45,067 --> 00:05:47,267 Speaker 3: off the bench or a bit like a small version 122 00:05:47,307 --> 00:05:50,307 Speaker 3: of the South African Bomb Squad, and they're coming in 123 00:05:50,347 --> 00:05:52,947 Speaker 3: and making a different type of play, which is enabling 124 00:05:53,387 --> 00:05:56,107 Speaker 3: enabling the Chiefs to do some different things, and we'll 125 00:05:56,107 --> 00:05:58,667 Speaker 3: see Rathama probably start next week. We'll see sammer Penny 126 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:01,907 Speaker 3: get his start shortly. But they've got a really solid 127 00:06:01,907 --> 00:06:05,667 Speaker 3: player and Roger Randall, Clayton McMillan, David Hill, they've got 128 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:07,787 Speaker 3: a super player for the year of how they want 129 00:06:07,827 --> 00:06:11,267 Speaker 3: to inject their players into games against different opposition. It's 130 00:06:11,307 --> 00:06:11,787 Speaker 3: quite cool. 131 00:06:11,947 --> 00:06:14,227 Speaker 2: I was going to say that next week they he 132 00:06:14,347 --> 00:06:17,107 Speaker 2: might look at resting a couple of guys against Moina Pacifica, 133 00:06:17,147 --> 00:06:20,347 Speaker 2: but you probably can't do that now given the way 134 00:06:20,387 --> 00:06:22,867 Speaker 2: more Ina Pacifica played against the Hurricanes. Was that last 135 00:06:22,867 --> 00:06:25,987 Speaker 2: weekends and there is the buy to follow. So do 136 00:06:25,987 --> 00:06:28,067 Speaker 2: you get the feeling that Clayton will just just go 137 00:06:28,147 --> 00:06:30,587 Speaker 2: with the big guns again against Mona Pacifica on Friday night? 138 00:06:31,707 --> 00:06:33,707 Speaker 3: I think so. I did the game pre season up 139 00:06:33,747 --> 00:06:36,987 Speaker 3: at Paula k Wina Pacifica and the Chiefs, and that 140 00:06:37,107 --> 00:06:39,387 Speaker 3: minor Pacific side is a hell of a good side, 141 00:06:39,427 --> 00:06:42,427 Speaker 3: lots of talent. I don't think Clayton will rest too many. 142 00:06:42,467 --> 00:06:46,107 Speaker 3: He might have some bay injury alone, but they're about 143 00:06:46,107 --> 00:06:48,427 Speaker 3: winning a competition and I think if you start playing 144 00:06:48,547 --> 00:06:51,187 Speaker 3: the resting game and stretching it back down too much. 145 00:06:51,227 --> 00:06:52,947 Speaker 3: It can come round and bite you in the backside 146 00:06:52,947 --> 00:06:53,907 Speaker 3: pretty quickly. 147 00:06:53,987 --> 00:06:56,107 Speaker 2: All right. Just to finish mintee, the Chiefs have been 148 00:06:56,187 --> 00:06:58,147 Speaker 2: you know well, I think they were the best side 149 00:06:58,187 --> 00:07:00,147 Speaker 2: two years ago. I think they were close to the 150 00:07:00,147 --> 00:07:03,427 Speaker 2: best side. Last year they made the Grand Final both times, 151 00:07:03,507 --> 00:07:06,667 Speaker 2: beaten both times. Is this going to be third time lucky? 152 00:07:06,747 --> 00:07:11,347 Speaker 2: As a as a farewell gift to Clayton McMillan, I 153 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:11,667 Speaker 2: have a. 154 00:07:11,587 --> 00:07:14,667 Speaker 3: Few stance then on the ground to incriminate, but I'm 155 00:07:14,707 --> 00:07:18,987 Speaker 3: certainly hoping. So I am most certainly hoping, so Piney. 156 00:07:20,907 --> 00:07:22,867 Speaker 2: And actually, just before you go, do you have a 157 00:07:22,867 --> 00:07:26,467 Speaker 2: prediction for the for the Carabeur Cup, the League Cup 158 00:07:26,507 --> 00:07:29,867 Speaker 2: final tomorrow morning between a side that I know you follow, 159 00:07:30,107 --> 00:07:33,467 Speaker 2: Newcastle United, and aside that I follow Liverpool. And again, 160 00:07:33,507 --> 00:07:35,347 Speaker 2: you don't have to answer if you think it's going 161 00:07:35,387 --> 00:07:36,467 Speaker 2: to incriminate, you. 162 00:07:36,307 --> 00:07:40,627 Speaker 3: Turn two wonderful magpies. It's our year, we're having a cup. 163 00:07:40,667 --> 00:07:42,387 Speaker 3: Your fellows have got too much going on in your 164 00:07:42,387 --> 00:07:44,587 Speaker 3: place at the moment. We need to win and you 165 00:07:44,587 --> 00:07:47,027 Speaker 3: should bring England and say just let them win one, 166 00:07:47,147 --> 00:07:48,187 Speaker 3: just to make them feel better. 167 00:07:48,387 --> 00:07:50,147 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've got the power, Graham, but I'll 168 00:07:50,187 --> 00:07:54,667 Speaker 2: be watching as I know you have the power. A 169 00:07:54,707 --> 00:07:57,387 Speaker 2: great call again last night, Minty. Thanks thanks for chatting 170 00:07:57,387 --> 00:07:58,707 Speaker 2: to us mate. We'll catch up again soon. 171 00:07:59,667 --> 00:08:01,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a safe week Piney, and cheers. 172 00:08:01,387 --> 00:08:04,667 Speaker 2: For the call for the best. Graham Me Minty to everybody, 173 00:08:04,747 --> 00:08:07,547 Speaker 2: our caller for Chiefs games and again on the mic 174 00:08:07,627 --> 00:08:09,907 Speaker 2: last night with Steve Gordon former All Black alongside. They 175 00:08:09,947 --> 00:08:11,987 Speaker 2: do a great job for us. Next up of the 176 00:08:12,027 --> 00:08:15,107 Speaker 2: Chiefs Majaana Pacifica on Friday night that starts round six. 177 00:08:15,507 --> 00:08:18,267 Speaker 2: More WAA Pacifica coming off the buye this weekend and 178 00:08:18,387 --> 00:08:21,267 Speaker 2: I'm sure still high on confidence after their win over 179 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:23,107 Speaker 2: the Hurricanes last weekend. 180 00:08:23,867 --> 00:08:27,067 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 181 00:08:27,147 --> 00:08:30,467 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B weekends from midday or follow 182 00:08:30,507 --> 00:08:32,107 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.