1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Right campaign time in the UK, Rod little morning. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: Mate, Good morning to you mate since. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: We last talk. And I'll get your explanation on this, 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: because no one else can seemingly explain it. Rishi's in 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: one country for a reasonably important event until he decides 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: to scarper off early and what brain explosion can lead 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: to something that disastrous. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: I think he's for it. I think he's not a politician. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: I think he was caught between wondering whether he should 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: do the right thing or whether he should do what 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: he was being advised by his team, and he ended 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: up coming home and for a period, Mike, I've got 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: to say, over Saturday morning into Sunday afternoon, it looked 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: very much as if he might be standing down. It 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: was a terrible, terrible misjudgment. It's still a terrible misjudgment. 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: It still hangs over him and it's very difficult to 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: see how it can recover from it. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: No exactly the campaign itself. I'm seeing a lot of 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: money being tossed about the place, or at least promise 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: to be tossed about. Do people pay a great deal 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: attention to that at the moment and add the numbers 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: up to see whether they're real or they just it's 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: a barrage of promises. 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: What do you think, mate, I don't think they take 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: very much notice of it at all. The latest stuff 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: we've got that the touring manifesto will include tax cuts, 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: but they've been saying that for so long, and then 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: last time they tried tax cuts under this trust it 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: crashed the economy labor meanwhile, is the Libdems rather are 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: saying they're going to pour eight billion pounds into the 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: advocating mouth of the NHS. I don't think that will 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: cut much eyes either. So no, I don't think the 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: promises of spending really cut through to the electorate at all. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: What about Farage and has comment about Rishi This goes 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: back to d Day But he doesn't understand our culture. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Is this dog whistle? And if it is, is it working. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: A little bit of dog whistle? We could give him 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt and suggest that he was 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: genuinely referring to class. But I have never previously heard Nigel, 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: who I know very well, attack people on account of 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: their class. I've never heard that I have heard him 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: attack people on the basis of their excuse me, of 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: their race. So I think that's what was happening there. 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: That being said, I think it will have fallen on 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: the years of a generally receptive public. You know, whether 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: they get a nuance of it or not, it's another matter. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: But clearly Richie somehow has a closs here when it 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: comes to what you ought to do in a certain situation. 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: And Ferras was probably right to call it out the 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: way he called it out. I thought a little bit crass. 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed that Richie was in a pub and 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: he was busy yet again saying now I'm a leader 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: and not going to plan and we're going to do 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: all that sort of. Have we ruled out a resignation 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: slash coup? Has it got so? Because I've seen some 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: of the polls since we last talked, and even if 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: you even if you give them just a shred of credence, 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it looks horrific for the Tories. Have we 59 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: ruled that for the toy exactly? Have we ruled out 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: a coup or a rolling or a resignation or something. 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't think we should entirely rule out a coup. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: I think we should kind of ninety seven percent ruled 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: it out. It's terribly late in the day, and I 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: don't know. I think I think the public knows that 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: they've had too many Conservative Party leaders who they haven't 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: elected themselves, you know, So I think that's in there 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: as well. I think Suela Bravaman talking up Nigel Farage. 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I think there are people tilting of this that Richude 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: should go now. But I don't think it's feasible. We've 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: got three and a half, three and a half weeks 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: to go before the poll. It's just not going to happen. 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: No, do you believe many of the part I mean 73 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: one of them hit them down somewhere between forty and 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: sixty something seats. I mean, you know, just just a 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: ridiculous swing. 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, the problem is we have a first pass of 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: post system, which is why, sadly, Mike I am probably 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: not going to be the next Foreign secretary. We have 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: a first part of post system which does throw up 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: terribly weird results of times. So you remember back in 81 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: where you probably may not remember, back in nineteen eighty 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: three and eighty seven, you know, the Social Democratic Party, 83 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: Liberal Democratic Party Alliance got someone like twenty seven percent 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: of the vote, only one percent below labor, but only 85 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: got about eight for eight seats, whereas the Labor Party 86 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: got two hundred. You know, we have a very bizarre 87 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: electoral system which really doesn't work. I think it's not 88 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: impossible that the Tories could face a wipeout. The way 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: that going, the way this campaign is being run, and 90 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 2: the advent of Nigel Ferras, which has changed everything, really 91 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: does suggest that they are under the kosh in a 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: really big way, a way which I have never envisaged. 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: When the poll was called. 94 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Catch you up on Thursday, might appreciate it rod a 95 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: little out of Britain for you. This morning they produced 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: a map also the police the big crime thing if 97 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: you're going to Europe for summer. Read another piece and 98 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: seeing what I think it was seeing in yesterday it said, 99 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: with hotel prices and the weather and the falling dollar, 100 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: the dollar they referred to as the American good luck 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: in Europe this summer. Anyway, the police in London have 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: published a map of where you're most likely to get 103 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: your phone nicked and we know all about it. At 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: our house. Son who's in that part of the world. 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: The other day was coming out of the place and 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: guy comes past and a bite gone and there's fifty 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: two thousand. So far this year, fifty two thousand phones 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: have been nited in the capital city of Westminster is 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: where you don't want to be, and of course that's 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: where you will be if you're a tourist, but because 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, the houses of Parliament and all the 112 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: flash neighborhoods and all the shops and stuff like that. 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Eighteen eight hundred and sixty three reported incidents alone in 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: the city of Westminster, up forty seven percent on last year. 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Camden not good, second, Southern Hackney, Newham, Lambeth, Islington not good, 116 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: not good, not good, not good, not good. So if 117 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: you've got a phone and you're going on holiday to London, 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: be careful. 119 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 120 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 2: news talks. 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 122 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.