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Speaker 2: Bonnie are welcome today the link between the war MRIs

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Speaker 2: and Helium Toho Harrison the Warriors tonight. But new infrastructure

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Speaker 2: Akadie do the week, Richard Arnol Murray olds they're good

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Speaker 2: to go as well. PASKI welcome to Friday morning, seven

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Speaker 2: past six. We have I think a couple of emerging

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Speaker 2: themes as we come to the end of week four

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Speaker 2: of epic fury. If you follow Australia closely like I do,

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Speaker 2: you will, like me, have been filled, I think, with

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Speaker 2: a sense of pride and surprise that we are out

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Speaker 2: doing them in adultness. I mean, yes, union's here on

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Speaker 2: the media, appedal the usual bs on, more money for

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Speaker 2: every man and their dog, and let's work from home.

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Speaker 2: Let's panic about the day's left of petrol. But believe me,

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Speaker 2: in Australia it is way worse. They have lost there,

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Speaker 2: you know what. They're at each other, not helped by

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Speaker 2: this state system, that tension between the state and federal

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Speaker 2: and the confusion over who's doing what and when and

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Speaker 2: whether it's any good. Stations have run dry, not because

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Speaker 2: they don't have fuel, but because they don't know how

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Speaker 2: to drive a truck up the road. Rural has been

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Speaker 2: going at city, punt has been going at the petrol operators.

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Speaker 2: Are the coalition in one nation been going at labor.

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Speaker 2: It's been a free for all bitchethon, driven by an

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Speaker 2: underlying panic another realization. Despite the fact a few hundred

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Speaker 2: people have bought a BYD, apparently in this country, it

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Speaker 2: has become stunningly clear just how far off a renewable

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Speaker 2: future we actually are. I mean, by all the evs

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Speaker 2: you want and cycle to you blue in the face,

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Speaker 2: the cold, hard truth is that solar and batteries do not,

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Speaker 2: nor I suspect will they ever, at least in our lifetime,

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Speaker 2: run a country. Diesel clearly runs a country. You put

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Speaker 2: oil and tractors and trucks and factories. We can be

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Speaker 2: grateful that our power grid is mostly renewable, and that

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Speaker 2: means we are better off than most of the world,

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Speaker 2: including Australia. But the cold hard truth is a small

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Speaker 2: bit of water carrying only twenty percent of the overall

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Speaker 2: supply can cripple a planet, or it will off this

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Speaker 2: thing as an over shortly. We've been here before, of course,

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Speaker 2: Oil's been an issue in the seventies and the early

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Speaker 2: two thousands. Did we change because of it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Did we say we should or would probably? But did

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Speaker 2: we No? And you know why? We can't until the

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Speaker 2: combine harvester runs on wind and the plane takes off

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Speaker 2: using batteries and every factory, farmer in person who produces

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Speaker 2: anything we wear or eat or live with does it differently.

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Speaker 2: Oil's it. The whole renewables argument has been blown sky high.

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Speaker 2: The world has never used nor needed more fossil fuels.

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Speaker 2: Four weeks of a single scrap in a single country

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Speaker 2: has laid theory versus reality.

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Speaker 1: Bear why news of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: And in case you thought the war might be a

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Speaker 2: bit off track and the off ramp is a bit

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Speaker 2: hard to find, have I got a cabinet meeting for you?

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Speaker 2: So the boss, with a reminder of why we are here.

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Speaker 4: They would have a nuclear and they would have used

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Speaker 4: it with our question. And you know that because why

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Speaker 4: did they shoot all these countries.

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Speaker 5: That weren't even really involved with them?

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Speaker 4: They weren't involved, they're no big problems because they're sick,

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Speaker 4: because they wanted to take over the Middle East, not just.

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Speaker 2: Israel, who's right hand man today sitting to his lift

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Speaker 2: with more history.

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Speaker 5: You might call it an inconvenient truth.

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Speaker 2: Iran took our money and turned it into weapons and

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Speaker 2: bunkers and AMMO, and now we're destroying those weapons and

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Speaker 2: we're writing, you're writing, mister President, that grievous wrong. Little

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Speaker 2: Marco who's allegedly involved in the c spot talks this

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Speaker 2: weekend in Pakistan. Today's playing Higgsy's hype guy.

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Speaker 4: Every day, the Department of War lets the drummer get

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Speaker 4: wicked over every portion of.

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Speaker 6: Iran that has these military capabilities, and the results are going.

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Speaker 5: To bear fruit for the world. The world is going

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Speaker 5: to be a safer.

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Speaker 2: And a better place when President Trump's mission here is achieved.

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Speaker 2: Now they've even got JD no more foreign wolves. Vonson

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Speaker 2: line talk about people who walk into a crowded supermarket

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Speaker 2: and have a vest on and they blow up the.

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Speaker 7: Vest and a couple of people get killed, and that's

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Speaker 7: a terrible tragedy. What happens when what's on the vest

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Speaker 7: is not something that can kill a couple of people,

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Speaker 7: but can kill many, many, tens of thousands of people.

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Speaker 2: As for the Iranians, they're still running yesterday's line. Key,

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Speaker 7: No negotiations have happened until now. I say that this

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Speaker 7: with certainty that we have no conversations and negotiations with

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Speaker 7: our American counterpusses.

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Speaker 2: The other major news you need to be across from

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Speaker 2: mover night, the Olympic Committee is banning transgender athlete from

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight at the Olympics.

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Speaker 8: Even the smallest margins can be the difference between victory

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Speaker 8: and defeat, so it's absolutely clear that it would not

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Speaker 8: be fair for biological males to compete in the female category.

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Speaker 2: Finally, study of over three hundred and forty thousand British

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Speaker 2: adults as looked at the old booze consumption with the

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Speaker 2: heart health. Those who were moderate wine drinkers head a

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Speaker 2: twenty one percent lower risk of dying from cardiovascular problems

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Speaker 2: competed with people who never drank it all, and compete

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Speaker 2: with those who drank occasionally, so if you're going to

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Speaker 2: found low intake of spirits, beer or cider linked for

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Speaker 2: the nine percent increase of dying. So it's basically the

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Speaker 2: French or Italian story of glass of wine a day,

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Speaker 2: vino winsor's use the world in ninety right. They've got

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Speaker 2: another one guy called tank Siri. He was the command

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Speaker 2: of the Uranian naval Mandy. There's Raeli's got him overnight.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy who's closed these straight or has the

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Speaker 2: straight been closed? More news tells us I got a

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Speaker 2: great story of a ship that arrived in Western Australia yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But more news tells us the Iranians are claiming the

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Speaker 2: Strait as an ownership and if you pay them, it

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Speaker 2: seems to be increasingly official. Comes from Fars. This is

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Speaker 2: a news agency Fars, which is linked to the Revolutionary Guard.

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Speaker 2: That there's a lawmaker who's putting some legislation. I assume

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Speaker 2: they've still got a parliament that haven't been blown up anyway.

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Speaker 2: They've got this legislation that will impose tolls in a

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Speaker 2: bid to officialize. So, in other words, if you want

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Speaker 2: to pay the Iranians some money. They'll let you through

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Speaker 2: twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: I'll work you through it throughout the morning. But the

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Speaker 2: OECD has come out with a big global forecaster. Things

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Speaker 2: aren't good, and they're particularly bad for America. They're now

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Speaker 2: forecasting inflation this year at four point two percent. Previously

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Speaker 2: they thought two point eight. That's what a war will

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Speaker 2: her good morning, morning, Mike, can tell you what's hard

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Speaker 2: work being old Nicol at the moment is at your

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Speaker 9: Yes, I know, it's been a bit of a rough

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Speaker 9: week for them, hasn't it, sort of mounting speculation over

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Speaker 9: the impact of the Middle East conflict, And not only that,

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Speaker 9: they're finishing the week with a great, big nasty storm

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Speaker 9: that they're having to deal with. So yeah, this week, Mike,

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Speaker 9: investors are digesting a couple of analysts reports which are

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Speaker 9: really highlighting the mounting risks that Edi z Elmed faces

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Speaker 9: at the moment, which are of course or directly related

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Speaker 9: to the length of time that the disruption to fuel

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Speaker 9: result of how long the Middle East conflict goes on. Now,

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Speaker 9: as our national carrier, it's a key element in our

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Speaker 9: national and international travel infrastructure. This is pretty relevant, really,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 9: I think a key point here, Mike, is something we've

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Speaker 9: talked about before, is that the airline was actually battling

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Speaker 9: and was under performance pressure before the Middle East conflict

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Speaker 9: of weakness, which makes it all the more tougher. And

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Speaker 9: now they've got even more potential significant earnings pressure sort

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Speaker 9: it's a really tricky operating environment in which to counter.

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Speaker 3: And deal with those risks.

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Speaker 9: Now, the problem which I think everye on the stands

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Speaker 9: the unheedged crack spread.

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Speaker 3: So they've hedged their oil.

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Speaker 9: Price, but planes don't run on oil. The oil has

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Speaker 9: to be turned into jet fuel. There's a big gap

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Speaker 9: Look I think they've had existing hedges in place are

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Speaker 9: all that information. So they've got a massive cost increase

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Speaker 9: pretty chunky. So for the financial year to June twenty sixth,

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Speaker 9: the market analysts this week they're guiding to numbers well

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Speaker 9: in excess of two hundred million dollar loss, and the

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Speaker 9: situation is deteriorating quite rapidly. They're also guiding to a

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Speaker 3: What I would say, Mike is that.

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Speaker 9: These assumptions are very hard to quantify. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: It's over fifty percent owned by the government. Share price

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Speaker 9: Four cents challenging time, So keep coming back to the

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Speaker 9: duration of the conflict and the speed with which fuel

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Speaker 2: Give us I know it's not only Thursday, still international,

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Speaker 2: but how's the world handled? What are the markets done

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Speaker 9: Look, a Friday always a good time for a bit

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Speaker 9: of reflection, isn't it? And then we've had four weeks

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Speaker 9: of something now we hadn't expected. Yes, I acknowledge it's

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Speaker 9: come back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Today's good.

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Speaker 9: The reason I want to highlight this is there's there's

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Speaker 9: lots of sort of uncertainty. There's there's elements of fear

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Speaker 9: out there. I'm getting asked a lot of questions so

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Speaker 9: of what's actually happening with risk assets well this week, Mike,

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Speaker 9: Resilience is the word that I would be using, but

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Speaker 9: it is a day to day proposition.

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Speaker 3: We're embraced.

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Speaker 9: The sea of green in the markets I think was yesterday,

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Speaker 9: the other maybe the morning before that field good sentiment

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Speaker 9: has evaporated a little overnight. There is this ongoing fixation

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Speaker 9: with following every sort of Trump tweet or Trump announcement, which,

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Speaker 9: to the objective Mike, are often contradictory, confused and a

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Speaker 9: little bit chaotic, but now being followed, they are being followed. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 9: we won't see the outcome of the current five day

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Speaker 9: there's elevated risk over the weekend, which makes Mike now

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Speaker 9: for four weekends in a row of that being the case.

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Speaker 3: So, but just a quick reality check.

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Speaker 2: So where to from here, Mike, you know who knows?

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Speaker 3: Actually don't know?

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Speaker 2: the news for the Americans. Toyotas have announced this week

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Speaker 2: Fifty nine to forty one. He's well underwater. This is

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Speaker 2: The fast Track apart from the facility itself, the fast

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Speaker 15: You like it or not, I think it's fantastic. What

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Speaker 15: Well, Mike, what this does is allows us one to

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Speaker 15: More ships and bigger ships. We are seeing the market

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Speaker 2: And have we adjusted that's not your department, but have

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Speaker 2: How do we cock that up?

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Speaker 2: It all right. As do you take business away from

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Speaker 2: So obviously this looks through the war, doesn't it. This

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Speaker 2: Would you expect that to continue?

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Speaker 15: But at this stage we're not seeing any impact.

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Speaker 2: As far as fuel is concerned.

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Speaker 2: Is bullish too strong a word, or just you're confident.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time Roger Gray, who's the head of

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Speaker 2: thinking about upgrading. So they're running the Intel powered deals

443
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Speaker 2: means you're getting reliable performance, whether it's for work, study

444
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Speaker 2: or even a little bit of gaming on the site

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Speaker 2: entry level. What have we got Lenovo Idea Pads Slim

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Speaker 2: three I priced at just four ninety seven. It's powered

447
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Speaker 2: by the Intel Inn one hundred processes, so it's a

448
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Speaker 2: practical option for students or everyday tasks. You can step

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Speaker 2: things up. You've got the Asis Vivo Book fifteen point

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Speaker 2: six inch laptop running an Intel Core five processor that's

451
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Speaker 2: at twelve forty four. That gives you a bit more

452
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Speaker 2: speed flexibility for the heavier workloads and of gaming if

453
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Speaker 2: you're into that. Lenovo LoQ fifteen that sits at eighteen

454
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Speaker 2: forty seven. Got the Intel Core I five solid graphics

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Speaker 2: built for those demanding sessions of yours. So whether it's

456
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Speaker 2: work or play or both, these Intel powered deals are

457
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Speaker 2: worth a look. So you've got to go and store.

458
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Speaker 2: You can do it online if you like it, Harvey Norman.

459
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Speaker 2: But terms and conditions apply, but the good deals are

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Speaker 2: at Harvey Norman now asking this OECD reports, So America's

461
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Speaker 2: got problems. The UK is going to be the worst

462
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Speaker 2: hit GDP wise of the G twenty. Their growth goes

463
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Speaker 2: from one point two to zero point seven. Globally it's

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Speaker 2: unchanged to two point nine, which is interesting. Inflation though

465
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Speaker 2: across the G twenty is bad. It's a four, which

466
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Speaker 2: is up from two point eight. So the war's going

467
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Speaker 2: to take care of that. Australia looks to be a

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Speaker 2: shining light more with Murray later six forty.

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Speaker 1: Five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business, Richard.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing well, morning, maker?

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Speaker 2: So we've been following the cabinet, mean, does anyone going

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Speaker 2: to Pakistan this weekend?

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Speaker 10: Is that on?

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Speaker 17: Is that a thing hasn't been formalized, so you know

476
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Speaker 17: it's still a question mark. As once again the war

477
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Speaker 17: and the diplomacy seemed to be at some impass as

478
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Speaker 17: you've been indicating communications have been passed between the US

479
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Speaker 17: and Iran and his first Cabinet meeting since the war started,

480
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Speaker 17: Trump insisted the Iranians are on the map, and he said,

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Speaker 17: in vulgar terms.

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Speaker 5: They want to make a dimp. The reason they want

483
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Speaker 5: to make a deal is they have been just beat

484
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Speaker 5: the ship, taken control of Aron's oil. It's an option.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't talk about it, but it's an option. Well,

486
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Speaker 5: in Venezuela we've done very well.

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Speaker 17: So is this about nuclear weapons, missiles? Regime change?

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Speaker 3: Or oil.

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Speaker 17: Trump revealed the nature of that gift that he was

490
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Speaker 17: claiming to have received from Iran. It was some oil

491
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Speaker 17: shipments through Hormuz. Here's what he said about it.

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Speaker 18: They said, to show you the fact that we're real

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Speaker 18: and solid and we're there, We're going to let you

494
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Speaker 18: have eight boats of oil, eight big tankers are going

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Speaker 18: loaded up with oil.

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Speaker 5: Right. So, and I said, well, I guess, I guess

497
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Speaker 5: they were right. And they were they were real, and

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Speaker 5: I think they were Pakistani flagged.

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Speaker 17: Well, the US passed on my fifteen point proposal to

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Speaker 17: end the war. Includes a demand for the dismantling of

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Speaker 17: nucleo sytes and he to uranium and Richmond entirely, the

502
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Speaker 17: limit on missiles, reappening of the straight off moves, and

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Speaker 17: so on. Some are suggesting this mirror is pretty much

504
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Speaker 17: the twenty fifteen Obama era deal, the one that Trump repudiated.

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Speaker 17: Iran says publicly there are no negotiations, but say and

506
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Speaker 17: he sees five would require reparations. Chances of that zip right.

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Speaker 17: Trump set a five day window for Iran who comes

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Speaker 17: to the table. He says, Now, with the latest deadline

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Speaker 17: supposedly tomorrow, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know mister Whitcoff and JD and Jarrett will tell me

511
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Speaker 4: whether or not they think it's going along.

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Speaker 5: And if it's not going along, maybe not. And we

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Speaker 5: have a lot of time.

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Speaker 19: You know what.

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Speaker 5: It's a day in Trump time, a day.

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Speaker 7: You know what it is.

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Speaker 5: That's an eternity.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: On the US military front, hundreds of paratroopers from the

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Speaker 17: eighty second Airborne expected to deploy to the Middle East soon.

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Speaker 17: I mean speculation they could head to carg Island, and that,

522
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Speaker 17: of course is an area essential for Iranian power supply,

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Speaker 17: still well away from the crucial oil channel through Homus,

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Speaker 17: says Marine ven and Democratic Congress Member Seth Molton about

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Speaker 17: that prospect, I.

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Speaker 20: Don't understand why if we take card Island the Iranians

527
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Speaker 20: would change their mind about closing the street.

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Speaker 17: I mean, all the conflicting signals. Israel says it's killed

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Speaker 17: Iran's naval commander. Are he raised Tung Siri?

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Speaker 2: Today?

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Speaker 17: Trump also slammed NATO yet again at his cabinet session,

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Speaker 17: criticizing Britain especially and adding this note as.

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Speaker 5: Well, Australia to Australia was not great. That's a little

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Speaker 5: surprised by Australia.

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Speaker 17: On the economic front, the OECD, as you've been saying

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Speaker 17: it says the higher energy and fertilizer prices and the

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Speaker 17: unpartictiar nature of the war going to lead to that

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Speaker 17: inflation search. They're forecasting here around four point two percent,

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Speaker 17: so that's a point up from their previous assessment. While

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Speaker 17: the US Postal Service says they're adding an eight percent

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Speaker 17: fuel search charge on deliveries because of the price of diesel.

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Speaker 17: That won't affect everyday's stamps, but it will hit most

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Speaker 17: everything else.

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Speaker 2: How's the airports, Oh my gosh, please.

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Speaker 17: As they ever talk about it? Yeah, nightmarish. The weights

546
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Speaker 17: have become the longest on record, delays of four hours

547
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Speaker 17: plass not uncommon. Trump's Transport Secretary Sean Duffy says they

548
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Speaker 17: could be even worse to come.

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Speaker 2: I think across the country you're going to see way

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Speaker 2: in longer lives.

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Speaker 17: Seriously, passengers who were somewhat understanding to begin with now

552
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Speaker 17: are just seizing. International traveler Elizabeth Hardman caused the situation catastrophic.

553
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Speaker 17: She says she had to rebook her flight and find

554
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Speaker 17: new hotel accommodations here that cost her over seventeen hundred

555
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Speaker 17: dollars New Zealand. Every branch of government is extending on this.

556
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Speaker 17: Trump wants his own electoral reforms SAVEC to be part

557
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Speaker 17: of any deal, a move to change laws of Republicans

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Speaker 17: stay in power forever. Basically, Republicans are voting down any

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Speaker 17: move to pay airport agents if it means that ICE

560
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Speaker 17: workers cannot be allowed to keep on their face masks

561
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Speaker 17: and raid people's homes without formal court orders. In some cases,

562
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Speaker 17: the Dems and demaining ICE reforms as part of any deal. Meantime,

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Speaker 17: the ICE agent whom Trump's sent to fourteen airports don't

564
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Speaker 17: know anything about airport security. They are just standing around

565
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Speaker 17: trilling his arms, staring at their phones. They are being paid,

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Speaker 17: as the airport agents are not being paid. In the polleys,

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Speaker 17: the politicians are set for their Easter recess from around

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Speaker 17: April to third. They are supposed to take a holiday

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Speaker 17: for two weeks, leaving this fiasco behind them.

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Speaker 2: On Monday, Richard Arnold stateside by the way in court,

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Speaker 2: Federal prosecutor, this has just been released. Happened the other day.

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Speaker 2: Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Power Right, They went after him.

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Speaker 2: DJ went after him. March three, George Masuko Lataife is

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Speaker 2: the lawyer. Judge asks him what evidence is there of

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Speaker 2: fraud or criminal miss conduct in relation to the renovations.

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Speaker 2: His answer, we don't know at this time. So they

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Speaker 2: runned them up for no reason whatsoever. Night away from seven,

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Speaker 2: the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be Diriching at the heralds onto a good one this morning.

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Speaker 2: Did he lie or did he not? So this is

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Speaker 2: Hipkins and the advice that did, as it turns out,

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Speaker 2: come to him. Read the twelve to seventeen year olds,

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Speaker 2: Read the second jab, read the myocarditis. So a couple

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Speaker 2: of things in play here. The Inquiry missed it completely.

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Speaker 2: They said they were that they I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 2: you don't remember Hippkins didn't show. It didn't show, Robinson

588
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Speaker 2: didn't show. They hired Denton's. I think it was Denton's,

589
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Speaker 2: and they just fired off a bit of paperwork to them.

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Speaker 2: They said they didn't know, never saw it, don't know

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about. That the inquiry took that at

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Speaker 2: face value. And that's why these people should have been

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Speaker 2: called and made to turn up, and the whole thing

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Speaker 2: should have been adversarial, as I argued, all along like

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Speaker 2: the British system, so you could have put these clowns

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Speaker 2: under pressure. He said, never saw it. That's where it

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Speaker 2: lay until we've got this bit of paperwork that Derek's

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Speaker 2: onto this morning. Hipkins did see it. It was in

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Speaker 2: front of him. So the question now is did he

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Speaker 2: see it but not see it therefore can't remember, or

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Speaker 2: did he see it and has been lying? And if

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Speaker 2: he's been lying, is that a resignation story for a

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Speaker 2: Friday more shortly five away from seven?

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Speaker 1: For the Inns are the ouse, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got the twenty twenty six Acumen Edelman Trust

607
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Speaker 2: Barometer which is out this morning. It's global survey involved

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Speaker 2: thirty five thousand, including about twelve hundred of us here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and as regards New Zealand, seventy six

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Speaker 2: percent now say we're hesitant or unwilling to trust someone

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Speaker 2: whose values, beliefs, approaches to problem solving or background differ

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Speaker 2: from our own. Economic pressure, the rapid rise of taking,

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Speaker 2: the ongoing rise of misinformation are all fueling this lack

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Speaker 2: of trust. Apparently, seventeen percent of us believe the next

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Speaker 2: generation will be better than we were today, so most

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Speaker 2: of us don't. Saudi Arabia theas sixty five percent, France

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Speaker 2: as the lowest. They're miserable at six. Australia's twenty two,

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Speaker 2: so we're more miserable than Australia. The government, trust wise,

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Speaker 2: is down between twenty nineteen twenty twenty five. Trust and

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Speaker 2: government's generally gone down from fifty to forty five percent,

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Speaker 2: so most of us don't trust the government. The media

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Speaker 2: is up over the last sixtyear period, has gone from

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Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty nine. Does that surprise you? Businesses

624
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Speaker 2: and NGOs trust is up thirty two percent, so they

625
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Speaker 2: would rather switch teams than work for a manager whose

626
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Speaker 2: values don't align. I don't need to know what that

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Speaker 2: means nineteen percent, so they put in less effort if

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Speaker 2: they disagreed with their team leader's views, which of course

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Speaker 2: meant eighty one percent wouldn't twenty six percent of US

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Speaker 2: would support fewer foreign companies operating in our country, even

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Speaker 2: if that meant higher prisis, which means, of course, seventy

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Speaker 2: four percent of the vast majority like foreign companies don't

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Speaker 2: mind them, and that's the modern world, et cetera. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: take that and run around with it for a Friday

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Speaker 2: and two you think. So we were going to talk

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Speaker 2: to Simmy and Brown, the Health Minister about helium, helium's

637
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Speaker 2: and outworking of gas if he didn't know it's a

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Speaker 2: byproduct of LNG and all of those sort of things.

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Speaker 2: LNG's a problem, but also helium's a problem. Helium is

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Speaker 2: used in semiconductors, not that we were going to talk

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Speaker 2: to Simen about that because that's not his department, but

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Speaker 2: it is used in MRI scanners, which is his department.

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Speaker 2: But this Hipkins thing seems to me to be a

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Speaker 2: real issue this morning, so we'll get into that. Tohu

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Speaker 2: Harris one of the Warriors greats. Of course, as we

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Speaker 2: look ahead to four in a row, the week with

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Speaker 2: Tim mccaty still become as well. Meantime, the news, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Credible?

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Speaker 1: Compelling? The breakfast show you can't bess it's the Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Ranger of a Sport SV The Ultimate

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Speaker 1: Performance SUV News, togs Dead.

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Speaker 2: Ben Pass seven, a lot of focus on fuel out

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Speaker 2: of the war, but fertilizer, and a shortage could well

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Speaker 2: be real. Helium is used in things like MRI scan,

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Speaker 2: so we're starting to focus bet on that. Apparently the

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Speaker 2: world's helium, a lot of it comes from Katasimy and

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Speaker 2: Brown's a healthy minister and he's with us morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Mine the helium issue first, how real is it and

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Speaker 2: how problematic is it? We just don't know.

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Speaker 7: Well, the advice I've received is that we have a

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Speaker 7: healthy center receives it from suppliers. Those suppliers primary source

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Speaker 7: for the United States was about a third of out

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Speaker 7: of global supply. They have healthy stocks and their stock

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Speaker 7: on the way. However, Health New Zealand is is seeking

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Speaker 7: further detail around what those exact stocks look like so

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Speaker 7: that we can get absolute certainty around this. But at

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Speaker 7: this stage, there's no issues that we've been advised of

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Speaker 7: in relation to the supply of helium, which is obviously

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Speaker 7: critical for operating our MRI machines and diagnostics.

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Speaker 2: So there's not a problem here.

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Speaker 7: Look, I mean globally, there is a problem. Globally, We've

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Speaker 7: had a third of supply disrupted through the conflict in

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Speaker 7: the Middle East, So look, there will be global challenges

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Speaker 7: around the supply of helium. What we focused on is

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Speaker 7: making sure we've got the supplies we need. The advice

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Speaker 7: we've got so far is that we have through our

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Speaker 7: supplies healthy stocks stock on the way. However, we are

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Speaker 7: working through getting that adequate detail on that to give

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Speaker 7: us that extra extra confidence.

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Speaker 2: The reason I ask about that, and I know you're

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Speaker 2: making an announcement this afternoon read the fuel and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that, I am a bit worried that we're getting

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Speaker 2: a bit panicky, a bit sort of nervous on edge,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just hesitant to start drumming up things that

685
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Speaker 2: aren't things. And if this isn't the thing, we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be drumming it up.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 7: We need to be clear we have healthy stocks, whether

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Speaker 7: it's helium or whether it is in relation to fuels,

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Speaker 7: and we want New Zealanders to be aware of the information.

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Speaker 7: That's why we're publishing it on a regular basis, particularly

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Speaker 7: on fuels. We're now gathering the extra detail when it

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Speaker 7: comes to helium. But ultimately we've we've we've we've got

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Speaker 7: no we've had no advice given to us that there's

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Speaker 7: any concerns. Operate machines are operating as usual, and we

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Speaker 7: need to work through this in a careful, considered manner,

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Speaker 7: and in particular work closely with industry because ultimately we have,

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Speaker 7: you know, supply partners who provide the supply, and we

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Speaker 7: need to work in credably closely with them.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. You onto Derek Ching's work in the Herald this morning, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I read the article, right. Is that tied in

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Speaker 2: with your question an answer session a week or so

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Speaker 2: back with Peter's in the Houses that you knew at

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Speaker 2: that point or not?

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Speaker 7: Look absolutely absolutely if you read the article and you

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Speaker 7: look at the questions we were asking for, all the

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Speaker 7: questions that I was answering. So I say, from Winston Peters,

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Speaker 7: it's very clear that Chris Hipkins are new about these concerns.

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Speaker 7: He was provided advice in late December twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 7: He didn't even sign the paper. He provided it to

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Speaker 7: the Associate Minister of Health at the time to sign it.

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Speaker 7: And when they were provided advice, they didn't ask any

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Speaker 7: questions or do anything about it. And the reality is

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Speaker 7: he came on your show said he didn't know. Well,

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Speaker 7: actually he's got questions he needs to answer.

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Speaker 2: So he was hiding. But see who's the bigger well name,

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Speaker 2: he's the bigger criminal. But the COVID Inquiry missed it.

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Speaker 2: The COVID Inquiry says, they claim they didn't see it,

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Speaker 2: didn't know and they accepted that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 7: I think what the COVID Inquiry found that the Ministry

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Speaker 7: of Health didn't provide the information adequately and clearly enough,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's an as absolute finding. But they

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Speaker 7: were provided information in late December which did highlight risks

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Speaker 7: around a second dose of the COVID vaccine to twelve

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Speaker 7: to seventeen year olds. And once they knew, what did

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Speaker 7: they do nothing? The answer to that as it looks

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Speaker 7: like nothing.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you knew what Derek knows now before Derek

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Speaker 2: published it this morning. That's what I'm just trying to

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Speaker 2: get clear in my head.

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Speaker 7: Well, that is we we obviously went right through the

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Speaker 7: Royal Commission report and we looked at all of the

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Speaker 7: papers we knew. We found that the line of what

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Speaker 7: happened and when, and it lines up exactly with what

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Speaker 7: Derek's found.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is Hipkins a liar?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 7: I think the question for Hipkins is when he did know,

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Speaker 7: why did he do nothing?

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Speaker 3: Or what did he do and he needs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The problem with that is his answer to this point

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Speaker 2: is I didn't know.

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Speaker 7: And the answers and the paper trail proves that he

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Speaker 7: did know. And the question is what did he do

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Speaker 7: when he did know? And the answers so that is nothing. Well,

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Speaker 7: then the reality is there were twelve to seventeen year

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Speaker 7: olds who were there was known risk around a second

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Speaker 7: dose and nothing was done.

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Speaker 2: Is that a resignation problem?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, that's a.

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Speaker 11: Question for him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm I'm concerned about the fact that we

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Speaker 7: need to maintain and we need to increase credibility of

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Speaker 7: a vaccination programs in New Zealand, and we need to

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Speaker 7: make sure that we have transparent information and that's what

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Speaker 7: the priority is, to assure that we can build that confidence,

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Speaker 7: particularly with the governments how get around two year old immunizations.

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Speaker 7: Confidence in our immunization programs are critically important. That's what

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Speaker 7: I'm focused on.

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Speaker 2: Is virril as culpable.

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Speaker 7: While she received exactly the same piece of paper, she

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Speaker 7: even made a note on it, but the same question

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Speaker 7: she knew, what did she do? And the answer appears

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Speaker 7: to be nothing?

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time Health Ministers Summing and Brown I'll

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Speaker 2: come back to your food back on that in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past seven Task Guest student numbers continue to grow.

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Speaker 2: Seven of our eight universities have seen an increase this semester. Auckland,

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Speaker 2: our pet Canterbury up over six. Victoria's international numbers are

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Speaker 2: up fifty percent. Problem is that with all these enrollments,

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Speaker 2: the government projections turn out to be wrong, which means

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Speaker 2: the funding is wrong. They're short of money. Chris Williams,

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Speaker 2: the Chief executive of Universities New Zealand, Chris, morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning. That's fifty percent from Victoria. Is there anything

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Speaker 2: specific there is that weird?

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Speaker 21: Look, individual universities are focusing the rebuild of the international

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Speaker 21: education market in different places. It's not surprising to see

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Speaker 21: some quite big increases as universities get back.

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Speaker 10: Into some markets.

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Speaker 2: Are we getting people in universities because they genuinely want

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Speaker 2: to be there or because they can't find a job?

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Speaker 21: Look, it's always going to be a combination of the two.

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Speaker 21: The world's changed a lot over the last twenty years.

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Speaker 21: Half of all students now are mature age students coming

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Speaker 21: back to university after time in the workforce, and obviously

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Speaker 21: it's very hard to predict who's going to do that

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Speaker 21: and when they're going.

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Speaker 10: To do it.

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Speaker 2: So what are you going to do with funding in

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Speaker 2: that sense, because I mean the government can quite rightly ask,

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Speaker 2: if you've just got a whole lot of people sitting

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Speaker 2: around bums on seats, why do we need to give

795
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Speaker 2: you more money as opposed to genuinely educating the country

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Speaker 2: or would you argue differently, Well, look, we would.

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Speaker 21: Argue that we are genuinely educating the country. Two thirds

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Speaker 21: of all jobs and the economy. Now, if you're entering

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Speaker 21: the workforce for the first time, two thirds of all

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Speaker 21: jobs you now have to have at least two years

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Speaker 21: of post school education. So it's now kind of the

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Speaker 21: pathway into successful lives and careers to be funding these

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Speaker 21: places so that people are able to get those kind

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Speaker 21: of qualifications and the skills and knowledge that come with them.

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Speaker 2: Always good to have you on the program. Chris Wheelan,

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Speaker 2: Chief Executive Universities New Zealand. Katie and I we're talking

807
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Speaker 2: this week. I might raise it after eight half the

808
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Speaker 2: people at university aren't going to have work anyway. If

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Speaker 2: you're a lawyer, you're in big trouble. Why AI the

810
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Speaker 2: future is the thinker, it's the philosopher is the conceptualizer.

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Speaker 2: The person who just goes, hey, mate, do that, read

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Speaker 2: that and then write something down. They're done for So

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Speaker 2: it's a big question Mike for universities in the future

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Speaker 2: as well. But more on that later.

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Speaker 2: Mike, there are no options. Hipkins and phel must resign, Mike.

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Speaker 2: When you're busted with the facts regarding your credibility, you

819
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: are toast Mike. Why would the news about Chris Hopkins

820
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Speaker 2: knowing about the COVID vaccine risks not be leading the news.

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Speaker 2: I would have expected that would be the biggest news

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand rather than Trump, etc. Mike, it's Friday.

823
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Speaker 2: The lazy media will let it sleep, such as their

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Speaker 2: protection of the Hipkins. It's a funny thing because I

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Speaker 2: raised it on the I'm glad somebody has finally joined

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Speaker 2: the dots. But I raised it on the program a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It might be two weeks ago now

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Speaker 2: because Parliament wasn't setting last week, but I raised it

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Speaker 2: on the program. There was an exchange very deliberate exchange

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Speaker 2: Peterson and was asking questions of Simme and Brown, and

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Speaker 2: it was clear that they had something. But then the

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Speaker 2: report that came out, and we read the report and

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Speaker 2: we went through it. The report said the information wasn't

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Speaker 2: properly passed on from the Ministry of Health.

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Speaker 17: I e.

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Speaker 2: Ashley Bloomfield. Now you remember we had Hipkins on the

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Speaker 2: program at the time, and I said, this is on

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Speaker 2: Bloomfield whereas he and Hipkins acquiesced, And he wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: throw him under a bar story. He wouldn't you say

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Speaker 2: it was on him. But be that as it may.

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Speaker 2: So you've got two things going on here. One, you've

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Speaker 2: got the weakness of the inquiry. The people who didn't

843
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Speaker 2: show up. You are Doerns, you're Robinson's and your Hipkins.

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Speaker 2: They simply, through lawyers, said here are the answers to

845
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Speaker 2: my questions, and they simply accepted those answers. So Hipkins said,

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Speaker 2: didn't know, never saw it. They then blame the ministry

847
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Speaker 2: for not passing that information on. We now know that

848
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Speaker 2: may or may not be true. But what we do

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Speaker 2: know to be true is Hipkins did get the advice

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Speaker 2: and when he got them. This is what Brown and

851
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Speaker 2: Peters were talking about in the house. So we got

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Speaker 2: the advice. So him saying I didn't get the advice,

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Speaker 2: we now know not to be true. So either he's

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Speaker 2: lying or he did get the advice. But he might

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Speaker 2: come on and say, well, I still don't know. So

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Speaker 2: that's the part of the story is still to unfault right.

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Speaker 2: Quick word on the Warriors their back home tonight, of course,

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Speaker 2: Friday night Lights. Hey, Benji Marshall's Tigers come to the

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Speaker 2: country for a lesson and top quality league to who

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Speaker 2: Harris is a former captain? Of course, Warriors legend is

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Speaker 2: with us toeho morning.

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Speaker 16: Good morning. What do you make me?

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Speaker 3: We do you?

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Speaker 2: No worries at all? What do you make of it

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Speaker 2: so far? Can you believe it? It's awesome, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 16: It is awesome. It's been so good to watch and

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Speaker 16: to see how happy everyone is see and that see

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Speaker 16: how that relates to how they're performing. You know, everyone's

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Speaker 16: just working hard for each other.

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Speaker 2: It's so good to say Metcalf back tonight. Will that

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Speaker 2: make a genuine impact? Will that actually make a difference?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely, Like I love that they've they've kept Tanner

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Speaker 16: in that seven role. He's obviously found some confidence and

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Speaker 16: found some form and and it takes the pressure off

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Speaker 16: Luke as well coming back from a big injury, so

878
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Speaker 16: he can sort of just add in his strengths around

879
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 16: Tanner controlling the side. So no, it's it's going to

880
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Speaker 16: be it's gonna be a good night.

881
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: What do you reckons happened here? What's going on?

882
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 16: I think? I think a number of things like luck,

883
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 16: they've got some great senior players that that are leading

884
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 16: the way, and then and then you've got all these

885
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 16: young guys that such as Dimitric, Jacob Tanner, Stale Smith,

886
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 16: Leka Ali, Like they've got all these young guys who

887
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Speaker 16: managed to get some valuable experience last year and and

888
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 16: they're just getting better and better.

889
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Speaker 8: And and.

890
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Speaker 16: The system that we've be sprought in with all the

891
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Speaker 16: rest of the coaches are rich in space and played.

892
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Speaker 16: These guys are just they're all brought in one hundred

893
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 16: percent and it's and you're seeing the results of it exactly.

894
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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a year too. Who

895
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Speaker 2: nice to catch up to? Who Harris former Warriors captain

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Speaker 2: and real estate these days come back and mark the

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Speaker 2: Severnarly four time now to mark the week, little piece

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Speaker 2: of news and current of incidence as popular as a

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Speaker 2: second class of champagne at the Northern Club as you

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Speaker 2: descend the stairs and hear the word teacanger Donald Trump.

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Speaker 10: Three.

922
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Speaker 5: They're defeated. They can't make a.

923
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: Comeback, possibly worse than last week, as airport's are jams.

924
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: He's desperate for a war off ramp. He lost another

925
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: seat to the Democrat's mortgages or up recession riskers up.

926
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: He can't draw by and oil anymore because no one

927
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Speaker 2: believes them. Deadlines.

928
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Speaker 5: Three They are begging to make a deal.

929
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Speaker 2: How many times can you say? Random stuff and people?

930
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Speaker 2: Four for a day fifty bucks six. It's a decent

931
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Speaker 2: mark because of its restrained and fiscal realism and perhaps

932
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: at last we finally have a government here realize the

933
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: spraying money we don't have is a path to ruin

934
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: warryor is nine? Yes, yes, yes, best start ever? And

935
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Speaker 2: what's actually technically not, but I'm saying it is. It's

936
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Speaker 2: our best start ever. It's never been better than this.

937
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: Technically eighteen was better, but it won't be long before

938
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Speaker 2: it's better than eighteen. Australia four head to heads in

939
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: a how have we handled the fuel mess? You tell

940
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: you what we've won. They've lost their heads, needlessly paniced,

941
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: they've talked a lot of hyped up gibberish, generally gone

942
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: at each other. It really has been a really low

943
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: rent week. And we'll talk to Murry about that later.

944
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: EV's eight. I mean it's still a way too early,

945
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: but first start of this week shows this could be

946
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: a tipping point. The market has moved. Is it permanent?

947
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: Is the question? Regional growth? Sex war aside, we've got

948
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: plenty to feel decent about, actually, led of course by Canterbury,

949
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: specifically in the South Island. Generally emmeer aken too. I mean,

950
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: is one million of our dollars really worth our particular exercise?

951
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Ronnie O'Sullivan eight long, I say now called me highlight

952
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: of the week one hundred and fifty three, never been done.

953
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: He's a genius before it you will never see his

954
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: like again. If you've missed it and you don't even

955
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, look it up and watch it.

956
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Had him on Tana tweet. See kids of

957
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: a certain age and parents of kids of a certain

958
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: age will have fond memories this week as they mark

959
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Speaker 2: twenty years. He can believe it's twenty years Lotto five.

960
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: I've got no idea where the more balls is more fun.

961
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: But I occasionally see a queue at the dairy on

962
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: jackpot weekend, So a decent chunk of the country is

963
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: still into it. I guess Brook van Velden seven leaves

964
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Speaker 2: for now on her terms, and that is a good

965
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: way to run your life. And that is the week

966
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Speaker 2: copies on the website. Now, if you take fifteen of

967
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: these color the orange, yellow or red, you can pretend

968
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: you're living under weather warnings. Asking genuine question, Mike, is

969
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: it possible they missed it with fast pacing information overload? Well,

970
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: of course, but he would have said that, He would

971
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: have said, yet that came across my desk, and with

972
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: the benefit of hindsight, we should have probably done something about.

973
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: But you had no idea how much pressure I was

974
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Speaker 2: under at the time. Therefore I missed it. And on

975
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Speaker 2: that behalf of behalf of viel and all of us.

976
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Speaker 2: We're sorry. But he didn't say that. He said Vira's

977
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: lawyer never saw it, and they pinged it on the

978
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Speaker 2: Ministry of Health. Now we got the piece of paper

979
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: that said he did see it, and not only did

980
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Speaker 2: he see it, viral saw it.

981
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Do you know how we know? Viral?

982
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Sort she scribbled in the sidelines, scribbled in the margins,

983
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: and still they did nothing about it. So the question

984
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: to them is why did you say you didn't know

985
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: when you did, and why, given you did know, didn't

986
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Speaker 2: you do anything about it? So those are your key

987
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: questions for the day. I'm expecting it to see the

988
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: lead story all day this Friday. I want to take

989
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: any bets on there. The stadium and christ Church officially

990
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: unveiled this morning. How exciting is that? More after the

991
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: news which.

992
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Is next no fluff, just facts and fierce debate, the

993
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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial,

994
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Speaker 1: and rural news Talks had been.

995
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Speaker 2: Cody after the twenty three to eight big day for

996
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Speaker 2: christ Church. As I mentioned before, the new stadium officially

997
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: unveiled this morning, six hundred and eighty three million, thirty

998
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: thousand plus seats. It's on time, it's on budget. Caroline

999
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Speaker 2: Harvey tear as venueser to TAKI chief executive and as

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00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: well as Caroline morning, good morning, how are you very

1001
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: well indeed, So I think I'm correct in saying it's

1002
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Speaker 2: the only thing christ Church has done that's on time,

1003
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Speaker 2: on budget. Is there something about it that's different?

1004
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

1005
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 19: Look, I think it's just been a really brilliantly managed

1006
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 19: project and we had a wonderful contractor and yeah, it's

1007
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 19: just perfectly done and we're here today and we couldn't

1008
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Speaker 19: be happier about it.

1009
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: Do you remember we were around when the angst was

1010
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, we all had a big debate about the

1011
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: seating and the council got involved and what should we

1012
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: do to remember all of that? I mean, doesn't that

1013
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: seem like such reavision mirror stuff now, Oh doesn't it?

1014
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 22: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was.

1015
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 19: Yeah, it was a fairly tumultuous time. Actually, it's sort

1016
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Speaker 19: of when your life letters before your eyes, that it

1017
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 19: that it may not come to fruition. But you know,

1018
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 19: it was a big, bold decision at the time by

1019
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 19: the council and really the public sentiment you couldn't argue with.

1020
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 19: So we're very very happy that that decision was made

1021
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 19: and we're certainly happy to be here today.

1022
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: How are you going to make it work as a business?

1023
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 19: Well, look, you know, the key thing for us is

1024
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 19: to get good content in, to get long term partnerships

1025
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Speaker 19: and to secure those partnerships. So we're really lucky to

1026
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 19: have a partnership with the likes of the one New

1027
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 19: Zealand Warriors, long term partnership with the Crusaders, and we're

1028
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Speaker 19: seeing the demand for the venue, so we just keep

1029
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 19: delivering good content, we keep our long term partnerships, including

1030
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 19: the light supremium hospitality, and the venue will be a success.

1031
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: That premium hospitality thing I found fashionate that's sold out

1032
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: real quick. There's a genuine demand for that, isn't there?

1033
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 19: There's a genuine demand. Look obviously in christ Chuch here

1034
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 19: we've got a perfect storm. You know, we've had fifteen

1035
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 19: years of a really compromised stadium. You know, no disrescept

1036
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Speaker 19: to Apollo Project Stadium. It's done us an absolute solid

1037
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 19: but you know that there has been a compromised experience there.

1038
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Speaker 19: So we've got demand for a venue. We've got a

1039
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 19: wonderful venue, and we've got a city that has been

1040
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 19: pecking its bags for too long to go to things

1041
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 19: and now we've got the right platform here to not have.

1042
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 8: To do that.

1043
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: How does that work in terms of events outside a

1044
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: sporting match. Are you part of New Zealand Inc. And

1045
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: therefore you sort of cooperate or are you christ Church

1046
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: Ink and you're all for yourself.

1047
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 19: Look, its competitive, It is a competitive landscape and look

1048
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 19: and the best interest of New Zealand Inc. Getting wonderful

1049
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 19: content here is important and is critical, but it is competitive.

1050
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 19: So we are auto tahi christ Church Ink and at

1051
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 19: this point in time we are certainly focused on doing

1052
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 19: the best for our city.

1053
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: What's the weather like this morning?

1054
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 19: It's horrendous. It is very very windy, it is cold,

1055
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 19: and it's raining and so we're inside obviously, so we

1056
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 19: have our wonderful but I've got to say it couldn't

1057
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 19: be a better showcase for having that. That's for sure.

1058
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Will you enjoy the day, appreciate it very much.

1059
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: Caroline Harvey tya with the stadium today. The reason I

1060
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: ask about the weather as I'm heading to christ yesterday

1061
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: and we were just having bets off air as to

1062
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: whether it was actually going to happen, because we're on

1063
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: a short window in and out and you know what

1064
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: it's like flying in this country when there's a bit

1065
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: of weather. I mean, there's weather warnings out and they're

1066
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: all sorts of different colors of the weather warnings and

1067
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Speaker 2: so it'll.

1068
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Speaker 12: Be not just have your own private yet.

1069
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Speaker 2: Well that's what I said, and they said, we're not

1070
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Speaker 2: doing that, don't you know. There's a fuel crisis or

1071
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: words to that effect. So that was the end of that.

1072
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: Speaking of transport, this ship I alluded to earlier on

1073
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: the program. It's Japanese owned. It arrived in Perth yesterday.

1074
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: It's called the Iron Maiden. It had been stranded in

1075
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: the Persian Gulf. It unloaded cargo and to buy march

1076
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: to headed towards the Strait of Hermose sat for two

1077
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: days in limbo, though I'm going for it had broadcast

1078
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: the words China Owner from its transponder. It was running

1079
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: at twenty two k's now, which is about as fast

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Speaker 2: as the ship that size goes broadcast China Owner. Switched

1081
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: off its tracking signal for an hour, turned it back

1082
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: on on the other side of the straight, parked itself

1083
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: in Perth yesterday. So there's something in that. So they're

1084
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: obviously letting some through. This morning's news appears to be

1085
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: there offering something more structured. The Iranians. This is that

1086
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: they now run the straight and you're more than welcome

1087
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: to go through. It will just cost you. Last time,

1088
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Speaker 2: I looked a couple of million dollars per ship to

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Speaker 2: be able to do so. So I'm not sure how

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Speaker 2: Trump's going to handle that. Nineteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 2: It be when some lose some with all the weather around.

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Speaker 2: Might We've just received a horse overnight from Picktonto, Livin

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Speaker 2: with eight others with a patchy thanks to blue Bridge

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Speaker 2: for accommodating. Well, that's encouraging because it's just about to

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Speaker 2: tell you about Blue Bridge, Mike. Bluebridge canceled my Saturday

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Speaker 2: morning sailing last night, offered a refund small standby list

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Speaker 2: with no detail. I've got a flexi fair already, so

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Speaker 2: it's nothing. Haven't already got next available sailing in a week,

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Speaker 2: two weeks to the South Island gone. That's straight is

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Speaker 2: really third world, isn't. I mean everyone blames qv Rail,

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Speaker 2: but that's Bluebridge. I mean, getting literally across from Wellington

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Speaker 2: depict and picked into Wellington is really the most third

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Speaker 2: world experience we've got going in this country. Unfortunately, yesterday

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00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 2: we told you about Kelly and Westpac and their view

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Speaker 2: of what's going on with the war and how it's

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Speaker 2: going to affect our economy. Today we present the property

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Speaker 2: focus from the good people today and z the country's

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Speaker 2: largest bank. They were forecasting houses to increase two percent

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00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: this year one way or another. Lower household confidence upward

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Speaker 2: pressure on mortgage rates is going to weigh on matters.

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Speaker 2: There's a risk that home loan rates could rise further

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Speaker 2: than they already have. Our hope is that we do

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Speaker 2: see a de escalation, and if we do, why we

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00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: still expect mortgage rates to rise. That is likely to

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Speaker 2: occur more gradually than we will have seen a escalation.

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Speaker 2: That's telling us nothing we probably couldn't have worked out

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Speaker 2: for ourselves. But their summation is that house prices will

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Speaker 2: fall this year. So the forecast was too Now it's zero,

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Speaker 2: if not less, which brings me to I'd recommend you

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Speaker 2: read it, and it's this wonderful combination between delusion and fact.

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Speaker 2: It's quite a good piece. It was I think in

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Speaker 2: the Herald yesterday New Zealand's oil consumptions that are five

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Speaker 2: year high. It's going to call Robert McLaughlin, who I've

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Speaker 2: never heard of, But as far as I can work out,

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Speaker 2: he's an academic. So what's valuable about it is he

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Speaker 2: give us a bit of background. So the latest quarterly

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Speaker 2: energy report for this country ninety percent renewable. So that's good.

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Speaker 2: So that's our power. That's you know, hydro and a

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00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: bit of wind and a bit of geotherm all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. So the fact we produce most of

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Speaker 2: our power renewably is a godsend because of we didn't,

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Speaker 2: we'd be in serious, serious trouble. But our oil consumption

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Speaker 2: is back up to its highest quarterly level in five years,

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Speaker 2: So that goes some way towards what I was trying

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Speaker 2: to explain at the start of the show this morning,

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00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: that the cold, hard reality for all the noise we've

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00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: heard over the last what would it be now would

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00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: it be? Ten years? We've been banging on about batteries

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00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: and wind and solar and stuff like that, and we've

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00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: really not got to where we need to get to,

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Speaker 2: and I believe now we never will because what this

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00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: thing has taught us indisputably is the world and this

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00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: country runs on oil, rightly or wrongly, love it or

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00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: hate it, it runs on oil. So of the total

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00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: calm and emissions, he goes on, from the burning of

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Speaker 2: fossil fuels, seventy seven percent of that's from oil, twelve

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: percent from industrial domestic gas usage, and gas is going

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00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: down obviously because everyone's closed up shot because we have

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00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: no gas, and six percent from coal. Then he goes on,

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00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: and this is what's useful about the article. He goes

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00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: back to seventy eight in the oil shock Muldoon. Muldoon

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00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 2: was an idiot and blew it, think big Bill Birch,

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Speaker 2: all that nonsense. Two thousand and eight is one of

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00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: those in theory things if you remember in theory on paper,

1157
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: you know, maybe, but it blew up in its face.

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: Two thousand and eight global financial crisis. Once again, oil

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 2: was a problem. Then both periods of time we sort

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00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: of thought about, talked about maybe doing things differently, but

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Speaker 2: in reality, as we sit here, these stats give ourselves away.

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00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: We have never used more oil than we do and

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00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: are right now. Eighty percent of the oil goes into

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Speaker 2: the air in the land transport. And this is where

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Speaker 2: he gets into his delusional state. He starts arguing how

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Speaker 2: we need to change and he writes this, there is

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Speaker 2: a known way to turn off the tap on oil,

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Speaker 2: the avoid shift improved framework, and it is, he claims,

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Speaker 2: supported by three decades of experience, changing work patterns, shorter

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Speaker 2: work weeks, working from home, better infrastructure for walking and

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Speaker 2: cycling in public transport. So we go, Ah, Robert, you

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Speaker 2: gave us a nice piece that gave us a bit

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Speaker 2: of background. You gave us an insight into our oil use,

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Speaker 2: and then you went down the old, well worn path

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Speaker 2: of the greens. We're not time shifting, we're not on

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Speaker 2: a bus, we're not walking, we're not cycling. And do

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Speaker 2: you know why, love it or hate it, right or wrong?

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Speaker 2: Do you know why? Because we haven't. We didn't in

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Speaker 2: the seventies, we didn't in the early two thousands, and

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Speaker 2: once this thing is over, we're not going to this time.

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Speaker 2: Eleven away from.

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Speaker 1: A the Mike Hosking Breakfast with rainthrow of a Sport

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Speaker 1: sv News, Togs Dead b it.

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Speaker 2: Is eight away from it. So if you're into cars,

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Speaker 2: fung A Matar whether permitting is the place to be

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Speaker 2: this weekend. We've got more than four million dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of classic and performance cars under the hammer. So this

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00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: is the Sunday Drive event. It's headlined by a half

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Speaker 2: million dollar custom built nineteen sixty nine old monaro.

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Speaker 10: HK.

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Speaker 2: Taylor, Campbell's director of Sunday Drive, of course, and as wether,

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Speaker 2: it's Taylor morning.

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Speaker 14: Good morning from fung Matar.

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Speaker 3: How's that?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 2: Is the weather okay? What's going to happen?

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Speaker 14: Oh, it's pretty rough. I've just typed the car under

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Speaker 14: a shop canopy so you don't get the rain sound

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Speaker 14: on the roof for the for the interview. But it's

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Speaker 14: been a rough couple of days down here. It's you know,

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Speaker 14: they had to cancel the hot Parlanui and Oni Mahna

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Speaker 14: and just brought it into the center of town. But

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Speaker 14: it you know, it hasn't really dampened spirits too much.

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Speaker 14: It's it's still packed. There's you know, the streets are

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Speaker 14: packed with with cool cars. And the good news is

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Speaker 14: the forecast for the for the big day tomorrow is

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Speaker 14: twenty six degrees in mshine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it will come right. I was just

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Speaker 2: worried that it's a bit fragile at the moment. This

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00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: is very international, it's very online. How many people online

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Speaker 2: are going to be following this? How much money is

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00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: going to be coming internationally? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 14: Oh, it's this oction is probably a bit more of

1214
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 14: a local thing for this one.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 14: Our airburn ouction we just we're just done was more

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00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 14: of an international bia crowded. This auction is mainly American

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00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 14: and Australian cars. We do get quite a few from

1219
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 14: Australia that would probably probably ship over there, but it

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00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 14: doesn't really reach too much further internationally for us. But

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Speaker 14: they know we've we've got consent to close the road

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Speaker 14: for this oction because we couldn't fit everybody in last year,

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Speaker 14: So we kind of expect kind of two or three

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Speaker 14: thousand at least in front of the option stage on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Where the American, Australian you know, your Manaro's and the

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Speaker 2: sort of cars you've got, the Cadillacs, where do they

1227
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: fit in the overall car collecting? You know, if your

1228
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Speaker 2: versus a Ferrari, versus a dragster versus anything.

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Speaker 14: Else, I would say that that's that's will be the

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 14: biggest scene here in New Zealand's you know, it's pretty

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00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 14: obvious with the one hundred and twenty thousand people we

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00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 14: kind of expect and find on the task for the

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Speaker 14: weekend and there are thousands of cars you're on display.

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Speaker 2: It'll be big and big money. Are you sort of

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00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: linked in any way, shape or form to the economy

1236
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: in a difficult time? Is it hard to sell versus

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: a good time?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we're our bitter registrations for this event to hire

1239
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 14: than we've ever seen, so certainly certainly feels really positive.

1240
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 14: I mean, our catalog is pretty pretty remarkable this year

1241
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 14: with you know, some of some of these custom builds

1242
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 14: are you know, half a million dollars kind of into

1243
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 14: some of these cars, and you reserve prices are about

1244
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 14: half that, so they do represent some some really good

1245
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 14: value there for buyerstastic.

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Speaker 2: Well, good luck with the weather and good luck with

1247
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Speaker 2: the weekend. Cambell Taylor, who is the Campbell Taylor, Campbell

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00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: Rother who is the director of Sunday Drive sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Hold Manaro is the one I mentioned. They got a

1250
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: Cadillac Deville sixty five fully customed, Patina sixty six Cabrolet

1251
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: C ten no reserve on a sixty six Mustang convertible,

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Speaker 2: which I've seen as a beautiful Carrot's read I've read

1253
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: with Cream I think from memory two thousand and eight

1254
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: Chevrolet Corvette, a two thousand and four Toyota Tundra nastcar

1255
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: truck sounds fun four minutes away from it, asking just

1256
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: watch Mike, it's likely that Hapkins will shift blame to

1257
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: as Shaverril. He's carefully not to attach his name to

1258
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: anything that might backfire. Well, the problem with that is

1259
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: he is he can't He can't blame her because they

1260
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: both saw it, and so therefore he can't say I

1261
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 2: didn't see it, but she did. Or maybe he could

1262
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: say I saw it, but I said, Asha, you take

1263
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Speaker 2: care of it. Hence she put a note in the margin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, he's got a front of each.

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00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: He didn't talk today. He's not talking today, No kidding.

1266
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he'll let Friday drift and hope the weekend

1267
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: solves the problem.

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Speaker 5: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'm a plumber and a drain layer. I'd love to

1270
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Speaker 2: work from home, but i'd be broken a month. Funny

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Speaker 2: you should say that I was watching Barnaby Joyce yesterday

1272
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: in Australia. Talk to Mary ELT's about this later, and

1273
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: he went off. He's a weird guy, Barnaby, but he's

1274
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: also wanting the government to start rationing diesel, and he's

1275
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: super angry at all the rural service stations that are

1276
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: run out of gas. And you know it's not lack

1277
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: of gas, it's just people who can't drive a truck anyway.

1278
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: He said, half of this is all predicated around all

1279
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: these ideas are predicated around the idea of a white

1280
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: collar job. You know, all these people, they're gonna remember

1281
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: this guy's from the country, right, and one nation's about

1282
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: the country. It's about rural Australia, the bush as they

1283
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: call it. And all these people that go just work

1284
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: from home or do a four day week. None of

1285
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: them understand what work is. None of them ever had

1286
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: a proper job. They're all behind a computer or a laptop.

1287
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: They're all sitting in airport lounges and they can do

1288
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: it from anywhere. You know, the people who make the

1289
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: economy go, the people who grow stuff and farm stuff

1290
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: and truck stuff, don't get the luxury of having a

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Speaker 2: four day week or working from home, which I thought

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Speaker 2: he made a recently good point, but murray on that

1293
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Speaker 2: later on in the program. It's Friday morning, which means

1294
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: Kate Hawksby and Tim Wilson are but moments away.

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Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking, Breakfast with Vita,

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, News, Togs, Dead.

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Speaker 13: B Modern Gear, the Data, Semonaire List.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be kept BTS and nobody sounds like BTS.

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Speaker 2: Hurry Ring is their album three years after the previous

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Speaker 2: original material. They dropped this one. The BTS people the

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Speaker 2: same people that did the concert the other night. So

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Speaker 2: there's only one hundred thousand people turned up for that,

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01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: and they thought the core of a million people would

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Speaker 2: turn up for that in the company that owns the band.

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Speaker 2: Of course, she has had a very bad week. Mind

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Speaker 2: you are the current market, and you can never tell

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Speaker 2: whether the shares are having a bad week because of

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01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: the individual story or whether they're just having a bad

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Speaker 2: week because of the wolf. Fourteen songs, forty one minutes

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Speaker 2: and twenty seconds long of BTS. They're a thing. Apparently

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Speaker 2: it is eight minutes past eight.

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Speaker 1: A week in review with two degrees fighting for fear

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Speaker 1: for Kiwi business.

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Speaker 2: Sort of production. Is that just about to say something

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Speaker 2: on here and it's just like yelling in my ear,

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Speaker 2: going going on now, going on now, going on now,

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Speaker 2: Cure It's just a radio program. Has that mean Katie's

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Speaker 2: there and Tim good morning to you, good morning.

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Speaker 11: It was going to be a video call apparently, but then.

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Speaker 2: Why we go on really called on video?

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01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 23: So we would just here, here's the background, here's the

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Speaker 23: stuff that goes on behind the scenes, and he just

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01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 23: pretends through the double glazing that it's all slick and organized.

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Speaker 2: When all of a sudden it turns out he's ringing

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: on the videos. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: Why are you doing that voice?

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Speaker 3: Why are you my voice?

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Speaker 11: A A goodness, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike, We would be better to encourage people to car,

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Speaker 2: pull to work or use public transport rather than encouraging

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Speaker 2: them to work from home. Cafes and shops and cities

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01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 2: rely on these commuters. See, it's like all the people

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: I've listened to this week and saying we should work

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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: from home and have a day off and can the

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Speaker 2: government give me more money? It's like we've literally learned

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Speaker 2: nothing from COVID. It's depressing.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, So it's like that guy that was you know,

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Speaker 20: you're quoting the Robert McLaughlin guy who's saying, off your

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01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 20: consumptions is its highest in five years.

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Speaker 11: I will just do the stuff that everyone says.

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Speaker 20: We should do, but I've actually I mean, I've got

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Speaker 20: a colleague who's like, you know, if I have to

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Speaker 20: use public transport to get to work, my forty minute

1344
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 20: drive becomes a two hour journey.

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Speaker 11: So who's going to do well?

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Speaker 2: Well, some are because we know the numbers on buses

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01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: are up, but it will be a flash in the pants.

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Speaker 2: I was saying yesterday, and I think I might be

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01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: right on this, that the public transport thing becomes a

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Speaker 2: thing in certain circumstances, generally the cost of petrol. So

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Speaker 2: it forces some people onto public transport, but the moment

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Speaker 2: that problem gets solved, they go off because they don't

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: like it. It's not a solution. In other words, there's

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01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: no tipping point. Whereas I think in the EV department,

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Speaker 2: once you bought an EV, you may never go back

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: because you've got the EV. It's not like you give

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: the EV back. You bought it, so you've got to

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Speaker 2: live with it. And in living with it, it may

1359
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: well mean you go and buy another EV down the track,

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Speaker 2: mightn't it.

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Speaker 22: I think with the public transport thing, though it's not

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Speaker 22: actually on us, it's not like the people's faults that

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Speaker 22: It's not like we don't want to use it because

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Speaker 22: when we travel we all use it in London and

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Speaker 22: New York and because it's fabulous and you know Europe.

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Speaker 22: The difficulty is the infrastructure here because it is so

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Speaker 22: useless and we don't have a good working system, we

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Speaker 22: don't use it. If it was effective, we would, So

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Speaker 22: that's on them, not us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Well, also also different different configured cities. So people go, oh,

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Speaker 11: public preaer.

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Speaker 20: Fort in New York, but the population and density there

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Speaker 20: is fifty thousand people per square mile, whereas Los Angeles,

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Speaker 20: which is say more like more like our cities, which

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Speaker 20: is spread out, it's cars.

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Speaker 2: It is Mike, the government are getting announced today rationing

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Speaker 2: of diesel. See, I mean this is the other thing

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Speaker 2: that worries me about what we've got this week. People

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Speaker 2: are freaking out the government are not announcing the rationing

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Speaker 2: of diesel today. And not only are they not announcing

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Speaker 2: the rationing of diesel today, they've said they're not announcing

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: the rationing of diesel today. It's like you can tell

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01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: people something and they if they don't want to hear it,

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01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: they don't want to hear it, and so they're busy

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: themselves reading Matthew Howton's ridiculous column this morning about how

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Speaker 2: we should ration diesel forthwith.

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Speaker 22: So it's scaramongering. It's exactly what happened during COVID. Remember

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Speaker 22: the room goes into overdrive while we're going into lockdown.

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Speaker 10: This is happening.

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Speaker 22: This is you know, and often that wasn't quite correct.

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Speaker 20: But I wanted to if there's a sort of this

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Speaker 20: is like a PTSD post COVID, so there's actually an

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Speaker 20: appetite for fear. It's like, you know that there was

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Speaker 20: an appetite for fear are created and and it's sort

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Speaker 20: of is they're still a residual.

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Speaker 11: I don't know, reflex if you like in various people,

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Speaker 11: you've got two different things.

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Speaker 2: You've got the PTSD people getting triggered, but you've also

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Speaker 2: got the people and we must never forget. In twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: fifty percent of the country voted for the Labor Party

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Speaker 2: because they loved you, Cinder, and you know they did

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Speaker 2: it voluntarily. They loved it. They love being told what

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01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: to do and when to wipe their bum and when

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Speaker 2: to look out their window, what sort of stuffed animals

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Speaker 2: should be in that window, and they they reveled in it,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's it's don't remind me. Well, that's

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Speaker 2: the thing. There's lots of people who say that.

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Speaker 11: It's a it's a cultural thing too, Like in New Zealand,

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Speaker 11: we we like we sh is that is that Lulu?

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Speaker 11: What is Lulu scholar?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 11: We I think I think we actually.

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Speaker 20: Really respond well to strong What I mean is not

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 20: respond well. I mean we we like to be told

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Speaker 20: what to do in some instances by strong leaders. People

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 20: love Malton until after Malton. People loved Helen Clark until

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Speaker 20: after Clark. So there's a I think there is a

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01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 20: sort of a there's a twitch there.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably a fair point. Now, odds, I've

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: opened a book on whether we get to christ Church

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Speaker 2: today because we're on the road.

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Speaker 21: And so you will.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, and you're on the road.

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Speaker 11: Are you driving?

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Speaker 2: No, not literally on the road. Well no, well it's

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Speaker 2: not the leaving, it's the arriving that's the problem.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, it does a miserable day down there.

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Speaker 2: And so the question is, and we're checking the boards

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Speaker 2: already and we've got delays, delays, delays, delays. Now I'm

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Speaker 2: not yeah, I'm not sure whether that's just just another

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Speaker 2: day at the airport, and everything gets delayed on a

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Speaker 2: permanent basis, or there's engineering issues, or there's cancelations left

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: right and center. But we're running. I'm running. I was

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Speaker 2: in the news at seventy thirty that I won't be

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Speaker 2: making it.

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Speaker 22: Oh no, that's crazy. I would say the opposite way.

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Speaker 2: So you go thirty percent chants I don't make it,

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Speaker 2: seventy percent. I will make it. Okay, what are you

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Speaker 2: like with delays? Well, obviously you you asked. You asked

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: me that question to trigger me because you know what

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01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm like with delays, and but that's not the point.

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01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: The point. The point is I've got a very short window.

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: So unless I take off on time, there's no point

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01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: in me going because by I touched the ground, I

1446
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: say hello, and then I turn around and come back again.

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: So unless that window is operable, then it's not on.

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Speaker 2: It's it'sipic fury in and out of Iran within a

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Speaker 2: couple of days.

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 11: It's oh wait, wait, so so you're you're the You're the.

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: Incursion that no one else will support, and that I'm

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Speaker 2: the incursion. More In a moment fourteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iheartradiow By News.

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: Talks b News Talks seventeen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fear

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01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: for Kiwi Business Mike.

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: The Christ's weather is not as bad as everyone's making

1458
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: it out currently a bit of when nothing major, no

1459
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: rain and improving the weather's clearing and Christ you go,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be You're right, Katie, you win anyway.

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: Are you exercised, Katie about hipkins this morning and the

1462
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: fact he knew about the vaccines? Is this a thing?

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: Or are we flogging a dead horse and we all

1464
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: move on?

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Speaker 22: Well, I was more exercised after your interview with Simme

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 22: and Brown, because it appears this is a thing and

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01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 22: has been a thing, and I'm glad someone in the

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 22: media finally got round to publishing something about it, because

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Speaker 22: I do think when you raised it, what two or

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Speaker 22: more weeks ago and said this should be news and

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Speaker 22: it wasn't, and it isn't, and sided be anteresting Stef

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Speaker 22: today it is because I do think he's got to

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01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 22: answer some questions, because You're right, they didn't turn up.

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Speaker 22: They got They hired a law firm to submit written answers,

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 22: which means they weren't prepared to hold themselves accountable or

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Speaker 22: be questioned. So I think they do owe us.

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Speaker 2: You know, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 10: Tim?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, look, I was thinking about this in the sense

1480
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 20: that Asha Veril scrawled on it. I think she's the

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Speaker 20: one with probably more of a problem because Chris Hopkins

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01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 20: wasn't apparently present at the meeting where that paper was

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01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 20: table or that where they dealt with that table that paper.

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Speaker 20: Pardon me, So I wonder if But then again you think,

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 20: I wonder if he can say, well, you know, I

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 20: didn't go to the meeting, so I didn't look at it.

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Speaker 20: But then again, you would expect that if she scrawled

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Speaker 20: on it, she would have told him something.

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Speaker 2: That's true, but also that you've got to get past

1490
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: the current hurdle, which is I never saw it, which

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: is now we now know simply not true.

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Speaker 22: Also a little bit negligent on their part. You know,

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 22: this was a crisis time where we were all being

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 22: asked to go to huge, great lengths, and as mother

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 22: of teenage sons at the time, who I insisted have

1496
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 22: that second jab. You know, it makes me feel sick

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Speaker 22: to my stomach that we were informed and told that

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01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 22: because they should have been across everything. So even if

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Speaker 22: he says I didn't see it, I didn't, Why didn't he?

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Speaker 22: Why wasn't he across every single piece of information that

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Speaker 22: was available?

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Speaker 8: M No.

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Speaker 2: These are all good questions, and if he was talking

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: to people, he'd be able to answer them. But he's not.

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: Of course, what I'm interested in is whether the media

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 2: run with this as they should be, and so father, they.

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Speaker 22: Won't now because you said they should be, So they'll

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Speaker 22: go out.

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Speaker 20: So you just turned You just turned seventy thirty into

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Speaker 20: thirty seventy.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, that's what it was. Now a quick question from

1512
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: our server. It's not our survey, but the international survey

1513
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: this morning, of which New Zealand was a significant part of.

1514
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: Do Tim Wilson, do you believe your kids enter a

1515
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: better world than you did?

1516
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 11: No, I don't. I think they're entering a more unstable world.

1517
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 11: No question. Geopolitically and economically.

1518
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

1519
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: Cuding?

1520
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 22: I agree, And I think what we were talking about

1521
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 22: this week is that the value of expertise and the

1522
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 22: knowledge economy, and this goes back to the UNI stuff

1523
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 22: is gone, you know, data information, AI does all that now,

1524
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 22: So all that's left is ideas, context nuanced the value

1525
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 22: of knowledge. You know, your statistician, your lawyer, your data analyst,

1526
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 22: your software programmer, even medical expertise. AI does all that now,

1527
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 22: So the value of that has gone. So our economy

1528
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 22: is changing and the knowledge gap is so all we've

1529
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 22: got left is ideas philosophy. That's the new value.

1530
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 13: Se It's more important now to know the.

1531
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 22: Question than it is the answer, because the answers are

1532
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 22: already all out there.

1533
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 20: Also, all its left is plumbing, scaffolding and practice the

1534
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 20: lawn mowing.

1535
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 11: But the robots are doing that too, well, haven't.

1536
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 2: We learned that this week? I mean, just it's the

1537
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: good old fashioned oil for all our trendy groovy here's

1538
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: the future. Just a couple of ships can't get through

1539
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: a small bit of land and all.

1540
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 20: And you're talking, and you're talking about like a monaro

1541
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 20: being being flogged off at the fog matar.

1542
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 11: What is a big drive?

1543
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 20: What's your what's your dream cardam gas guzzler?

1544
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 24: Don't even come on, quick, quick, quick, Aston Martin Vanquish

1545
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 24: valunte well ye V twelve well a new one obviously.

1546
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: Obviously come on to new one. Well, it would be

1547
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: fuel efficient, there'd be more there. V twelve now would

1548
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: be more fuel efficient than the V twelve for Bold.

1549
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: So I'm genuinely trying to save any toil.

1550
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 20: Seventy two Cadillac Eldorado ber It's convertible coupe seven liters of.

1551
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 11: America fair called good call.

1552
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 2: What's your carcading?

1553
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 22: I want a Mini Cooper, and I think I want

1554
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 22: just a little run about around the city.

1555
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 11: And a puddle jumper.

1556
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,480
Speaker 6: And I'm leaning towards.

1557
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 22: Because you've been working hard at home convincing me.

1558
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 19: I'm leaning towards maybe having to do that. In an EV.

1559
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: Mike drop moment, Mike, I'm no longer going to the

1560
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 2: world has changed. I'm straight down to the mini garage

1561
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: to buy an electric Mini. I've got the clearance. You

1562
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: heard it right across the nation. We're going EV at

1563
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: the Hosking Hawksing House. This whole segment, my whole life

1564
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: has now been worth it. Nice to see. Hooray, hooray.

1565
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: It's eight twenty two.

1566
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News TALKSB.

1567
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: Mike, I never thought I'd convinced my partner to get

1568
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: an ev but now I struggle to get the keys

1569
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: good on you or trisuare I haven't done it. What

1570
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: she says on here and what she does privately are

1571
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: two completely different things. Just so you're aware. Kimis warehouse,

1572
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: by the way, one place you can walk to walk into,

1573
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: needing one thing, you walk out with a whole bag

1574
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: full of stuff. They got the fragrances, all the good fragrances,

1575
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: got Javonchet, Gucci, Bulgary, Wire, sell tom Ford, all the

1576
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: big brands with the price is too good to miss

1577
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: out on. But then they got the every day stuff.

1578
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: They got the itoms, got the skincare, got the hair care,

1579
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,480
Speaker 2: got the sports nutrition, got nappy sports tape, electric toothbrushes,

1580
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: all at unbelievable prices. You know what else they got?

1581
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: They got household products. That's right, but you didn't realize

1582
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: dish one unless you're a regular obviously dish washing, liquid,

1583
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: paper towels, kitchen cleaner, sprays, toilet diss They've got everything

1584
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: you need to keep your house in your kitchen looking

1585
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: clean and smelling clean at prices you won't be able

1586
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: to wipe away. So it just shows you can find

1587
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: just about anything within those four yellow walls. And remember,

1588
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: in addition to visiting the local Chemist Warehouse store, you

1589
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: can always order online click and collect to save time,

1590
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: or choose fast delivery for the same day home delivery.

1591
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: Teas and sees like Chemist Warehouse. Great savings every day.

1592
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: Pasking Mike. Three kids under twenty three are have an arborist,

1593
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: heavy vehicle mechanic and one working with Rural Animal Healthcare.

1594
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: Think they're okay. I think. See that's what Katie's saying.

1595
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: If you've got ideas, AI is never going to beat you,

1596
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 2: and if you're doing that sort of thing, a robot's

1597
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: never going to change that either. And as I just

1598
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: got the text, Mike, AI won't do pest control like

1599
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 2: we do. He's my man. My man's coming to the

1600
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: place to shoot the bunnies this weekend. There's no Ai.

1601
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: Ain't no AI coming to shoot my bunnies. And he

1602
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: it had been a while since he's been shooting the bunnies.

1603
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: He did the possums, but he last couple of weekends.

1604
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: I have been looking around. I've seen bunnies and I'm

1605
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: thinking could be the dry the northern part of the

1606
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: country that's been whacked in the last twenty four hours.

1607
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: Had a very dry period for the last three or

1608
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: four weeks. And that's when the bunnies come along. And

1609
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: I saw three in a weekend and I was straight

1610
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: onto old Wilson. I said, Mate, you and Major Majors.

1611
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 12: I reckon, I reckon A Boston Dynamics robot died with

1612
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 12: a knock down on the top of that.

1613
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 6: Can take care of those rabbits nomes.

1614
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: You haven't met Major, You meet May sometime. Mate, you

1615
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: meet Wilson's dog, Major, That that is an animal. And

1616
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: believe me, you don't want to mess with Major Bunny

1617
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: or otherwise. News and speaking of whether actually suddenly got

1618
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: hit by a storm last night, we'll see if Murray

1619
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 2: is okay after the news, which is next here A

1620
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: news talks.

1621
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: EDB Opinion Edit Informed, Unapologetic, the mic asking Breakfast with

1622
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: Ranger of a Sport SV the Ultimate Performance SUV News

1623
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: talks eDV.

1624
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: Mike, if the petrol head and his wife goes EV,

1625
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: I'll switch to another station. No you won't.

1626
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 12: Ooh oh, that's actually a good point. No, to be fair,

1627
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 12: I mean that it's a dramatic you tune. You've got

1628
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 12: to say, what's happened over the last couple of weeks.

1629
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 12: What we've been witnessing here in the studio.

1630
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: It's not a U tune.

1631
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, you sound like Secure Stara.

1632
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: It's not.

1633
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:48,879
Speaker 2: It's it's an evolution.

1634
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 6: And that's the kind of thing that he would say.

1635
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: It's an evolution. And if my wife gets it, then

1636
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: does that mean I've gone to the dark side as

1637
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: well or just bot to the dark side by association?

1638
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: See there's your problem.

1639
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 12: I mean you were talking polestars and you know it's

1640
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 12: a bit of a difference getting a Mini Cooper.

1641
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Mini Cooper's cool car, ages super cool car, and we've

1642
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: already got one, to be fair, but it's a petrol one.

1643
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 2: So could I say, Look, we've got a picture one mate.

1644
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 6: So you'll just be swapping that out.

1645
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: We'll keep the petrol one miked artist. Was a real issue,

1646
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: and when something as important as the second dose effects

1647
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: were given to the COVID vaccine for teenagers somehow was

1648
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: never seen by Hepkins. Seems very implausible given the potential effects.

1649
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: Paul I would tend to agree with you. Twenty two

1650
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: minutes away from.

1651
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

1652
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business Maril.

1653
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 10: How are you, Michael, Very good morning, made pretty good things.

1654
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 10: Looks of electric cars we excels over here.

1655
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: I can assure you exactly. It's been a story here

1656
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: as well. I'll come to that in the moment. But

1657
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: you were to be of some use to me, but

1658
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: unfortunately it turns out you're not. Because I was going

1659
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: to ask you whether you could wear from the mention

1660
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 2: and manly could you see the parks of Sydney that

1661
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 2: were smashed meteorologically speaking? But unfortunately you join us this

1662
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: morning from Queensland, where yet again you've been playing golf.

1663
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 10: I'm playing golf in Queensland. But I'll tell you what

1664
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 10: it was all over the news. I spoke to my

1665
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 10: wife last night and spoke to the next door neighbor

1666
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 10: who informed us that we were find that only a

1667
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 10: couple of streets away power is out, which is no

1668
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 10: big surprise because power is out the thousands and thousands

1669
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 10: of homes and businesses. It didn't arrive out of nowhere,

1670
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 10: but the power, I think surprised everybody. It was just wild.

1671
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 10: I mean the color of the sky changed. You had

1672
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 10: torrential rain, you had strong winds. You had trains affected

1673
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 10: the airport as well, hundreds of calls for help. Apparently

1674
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 10: in one case a family was trapped inside their home

1675
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 10: with a tree fellows. So it was a hell of

1676
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 10: a mess. We clean up today is going to be

1677
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 10: extensive and the insurance bill will be through the roof.

1678
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 10: It will be very, very expensive.

1679
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: Indeed, I know I said to you last week, I

1680
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: haven't been impressed with Australia generally in terms of the

1681
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: fuel issue and the bitching and the backstabbing that's gone on.

1682
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, I've not changed my mind

1683
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: at all this week and watching Barnaby's saying, ah, yet

1684
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: out of people who grow the stuff in this country

1685
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: they need the petrol and new people in the city.

1686
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: You never worked a day in your life and all

1687
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. It seems as messy as it

1688
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: ever was last week. How's elbow going to handle this?

1689
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: And our people edgy?

1690
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 10: Well, the bunch of questions and there people are edgy,

1691
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 10: no doubt about it. We've got more than six hundred

1692
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 10: service stations now completely out of fuel, with's around eight

1693
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 10: percent of the national total. Some stations introducing fifty liter limits.

1694
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 10: In terms of sales. No jerry cans is going to

1695
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 10: be filled up at some service stations. New South Wales

1696
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 10: is the hardest hit stake, with diesel the most concerned

1697
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 10: because farmers need that to plant and to do stuff

1698
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 10: on the farm. The government is insisting Mike there was

1699
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 10: no need to panic. We're still getting supplies and the

1700
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 10: two refineries that Australia's got left. Don't forget Angus Taylor

1701
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 10: closed down the last the other ones. We're still got

1702
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 10: two refineries left there delaying scheduled maintenance to keep on

1703
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 10: producing petrum and diesel and all the rest of the

1704
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 10: stuff that arrives from overseas. Now what Albo's done is

1705
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 10: invoked team of Stadia and answer to your question, you

1706
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 10: know it's all pulled together. That's not what Barnaby's doing.

1707
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 10: The government's playing politics as well. Of course they're giving

1708
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 10: Angus Taylor a slap when he was Energy Minister for

1709
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 10: doing all the stuff that he did. But Tony Abbott

1710
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 10: is out there in the last twenty four hours saying

1711
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 10: the government's negligent for getting the bulk of refineries were

1712
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 10: closed by mister Taylor and the Coalition. So he's demanding

1713
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 10: the governments out telling the states how to distribute few.

1714
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 10: It's a state matter. So look, it is a mess.

1715
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 10: It's not getting any better. But those limits are being opposed.

1716
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 10: That will be a bit worrying for a lot of

1717
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 10: people because you know, particularly those who need indeed diesel.

1718
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 10: I mean the country runs off, you know, and all

1719
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 10: the food, all the transport. Wow.

1720
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've got exactly the same problem. I don't

1721
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: know if you've had a chance to put down the

1722
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 2: kellaway as long as enough to read the OECD report,

1723
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: but I have, and you guys actually come out. I mean,

1724
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: Britain doesn't look particularly good. Inflation in America looks shocking,

1725
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: but you guys, all in all seem to be the

1726
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: star of the global show.

1727
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Speaker 10: I think part of that, of course, is contingent on

1728
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 10: the fact Australia is a big, major international energy exporter.

1729
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 10: You've met across the spectrum. You've got coal, You've got

1730
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 10: you've got natural gas, you've got uranium, you get all

1731
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 10: sorts of rare mineral I mean, Australia's like it's a

1732
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 10: giant quarry. So to the extent that the OECD is

1733
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 10: looking around the grave and saying, well, this war is

1734
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 10: not going to bloody will help anyone and place is

1735
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 10: going to spike. Australia will not be imbued by any means.

1736
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 10: It will test Australia's resilience. That's what the OECD said

1737
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 10: this week. But the energy export is like this country

1738
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 10: will have a degree of protection, but no doubt. Look

1739
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 10: soring inflation is hurting over here. We've got interest rates

1740
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 10: heading up. Goodness knows what's going to happen in the

1741
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 10: main budget because all the previous sums have been thrown

1742
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 10: out the bloody window. You get higher infrastructure as well.

1743
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 10: Let's sent a massive shiver through the population over here,

1744
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 10: people with big mortgages and saying you're kidding, How the

1745
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 10: heck are we going to cope with that? Tell me

1746
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 10: on the government's control as well.

1747
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about Trump because Keiths Starmer's had the

1748
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: same sort of issue. So Trump this morning of people

1749
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: missed it. Head a crack at Australia. Not impressed with you.

1750
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: But Starmers seems to have done okay domestically by distancing

1751
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: himself from Trump. Is it possible Elbow will fall into

1752
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: the same category.

1753
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 16: I think so.

1754
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know what Trump expects, you know,

1755
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 10: Australia hasn't been great. Well, we've got the only sort

1756
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 10: of flying asset we can possibly offer. That's in the

1757
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 10: Persian golf doing massive laps up and down the straight

1758
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 10: at war booths and thirty thousand feet looking at missiles

1759
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 10: coming in. And that's about all we've got. All the

1760
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 10: you know, the seven warships Australia's got are all laid

1761
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 10: up for maintenance. I mean, I don't know what he wants.

1762
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 10: It's just silly. And as Trump on the phone last

1763
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 10: week saying you've got to let these radiant football players

1764
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 10: stay in Australia. Look but out, big boy, this gold

1765
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 10: throw it out in your rubbish. Don't be telling elbow

1766
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 10: at three am. Has to let in all these Ratian

1767
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 10: players worry about the bloody war you've started. I mean, look,

1768
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 10: what do we do? What on earth do we do

1769
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 10: down here at the bottom of the world. When Trump

1770
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 10: picks up the phone and goes, hey, what's going on?

1771
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 2: Exactly? So, I'm reading an article this week suggesting that

1772
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: they've tidied up the Goldie and that it used to

1773
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: be a bit low rent. We all know, but you

1774
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 2: can say in a flash place now and it's a

1775
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: bit more sophisticated. Are you seeing that level of sophistication

1776
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: from where you are in Queensland?

1777
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 10: No, I must say we're at the southern end. We're

1778
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 10: down at Broadbeach. We've been playing golf at Lakelands and

1779
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 10: the Glades and they're very, very nice courses. But it's

1780
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 10: still pretty much bogue in central here in Queensland. We

1781
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 10: were out at dinner on the Wednesday night. Looked like

1782
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 10: something from Las Vegas. But everywhere is getting around in

1783
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 10: singlets and clean clamber all that sort of stuff. And

1784
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 10: you'll be delighted to know for the Olympic Games of

1785
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 10: twenty thirty two, the Fitzroy River in northern Queensland has

1786
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 10: been selected for the rowing. Sadly, the currents are outrageously strong.

1787
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 10: They're going to have to dredge and whiten the river.

1788
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 10: Oh and by the way, it's got crocodiles in it.

1789
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 2: Good time.

1790
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 10: That's just going to add to the Olympic spice of

1791
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 10: the moment. They were looking down, they were looking down

1792
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 10: at the Sydney's Olympics said, oh, there's nowhere they're exciting

1793
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 10: and that where Queenslanders are here there are different species. Mike,

1794
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 10: I can.

1795
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 2: Assure you, you know, any of you ever go Weeken,

1796
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: We'll see you next Friday. Murray Olds a forty five the.

1797
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard By

1798
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: News talks at.

1799
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Speaker 2: B cunning plan. Mike Cadie gets the Mini. It's only

1800
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 2: fear that you get your ass and fair enough too.

1801
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: I quite like the sounder that might have you seen

1802
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 2: the Zeeker amazing? Now I have. I don't find it amazing.

1803
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: But each to their own. From America, they well Edmunds

1804
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: dot com, who are a big player in the American

1805
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: car market. They don't think what's going on with oil

1806
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: at the moment global is going to shift the needle

1807
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: in terms of evs. So online shoppers seventy percent increase,

1808
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,480
Speaker 2: seventeen percent increase in searchers. They say, that's not unsurprising.

1809
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: You know, people require gas prices peak interest. Consumers should

1810
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 2: rightfully be looking around, especially if they're already in the

1811
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: market for a new car. But and I'm quoting them,

1812
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: but going out and buying an electric vehicle simply on

1813
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: what we've seen over the last few weeks wouldn't be

1814
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: extremely rational. So in America, they say they run fifty

1815
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 2: to sixty gallons of gas a month. If it stays

1816
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: at about four bucks a gallon, you're going to end

1817
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: up spending about two hundred and forty dollars a month more.

1818
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: That would be a third of the average cost of

1819
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: a new car payment because and do not forget this bit. Evs,

1820
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: of course in America are on average six and a

1821
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 2: half thousand dollars more expensive than a gas power car,

1822
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: so you've got to recoup. It's the solar panel story

1823
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: all over again. You've got to own it for a

1824
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: while or recoup for a while before it even starts

1825
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: to make sense unless and this is where we're different

1826
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: to America. America's never running out of oil because they've

1827
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: got their own unless you don't get oil or you

1828
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 2: can can't get oil. And then the old EV problem

1829
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: becomes a no brainer, doesn't it? To tend are going

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01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: to taste wine in a moment ten to nine The Mic.

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01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities News togs Head.

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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: B Mike, you're buying an EV because of a long

1833
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: term benefit over petrol or is it just a fetish?

1834
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: It's a very good question. I don't even know I'm

1835
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 2: buying one yet. It has opened us away from nine.

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01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy.

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 10: All year round.

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01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Now by way of something slightly different, we end up

1839
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: with Tim Lightborn in the studio and he wasn't here earlier,

1840
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: so he's clearly a guest who's coming to see us

1841
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: this morning. And Tim we know well from in Vivo,

1842
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: which is a very successful wine company which involves Sarah,

1843
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: Jessica Parker and of course Graham Norton, and he's with

1844
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 2: us morning.

1845
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 6: Nice to see you anyway.

1846
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: So Sam thought it would be a nice idea to

1847
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: do the our trending segment with something that presumably well trend,

1848
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: could trend, might trend. Hopefully it does, which is what.

1849
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 6: It's a spicy Jlipino sevenon blanc.

1850
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: And so why would so why would you want to

1851
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: do that?

1852
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we noticed on social media last year a

1853
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 6: lot of customers putting Kalopino into their savinyon and then

1854
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 6: videoing it from bars or at home. So then I

1855
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 6: had retailers asking us for it across the States. So

1856
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 6: we started some samples, some trials here in New Zealand.

1857
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 6: We went over to the States last month with a

1858
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 6: few bottles, maybe thinking we'd get a few hundred cases sold.

1859
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 6: I sold seventy two thousand bottles in a week. Unbelievable.

1860
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 2: Jalapeno wine, jalapenia wine. What's the difference between what you've

1861
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: created versus me just sticking at klopenio in a glass

1862
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: observing your blanc.

1863
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 6: I've got wine makers to do it, so they're looking

1864
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 6: at balance, they're looking at structure. We had a lot

1865
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 6: of fun making it, you know, playing with the heat,

1866
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 6: getting it too hot, not too hot. So it's more

1867
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 6: about balance and getting it right.

1868
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: So did you know you could do it going in?

1869
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 8: No?

1870
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 6: Right, No, we didn't. We weren't sure, and the wine

1871
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 6: makers were not sure as well, to be honest. But

1872
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 6: then once we started tasting samples, getting into buyers and

1873
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 6: getting that feedback, it was amazing.

1874
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 2: So is there a difference. Have you tasted the difference

1875
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,440
Speaker 2: between a wine the way you've done it with jalapeno

1876
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: versus just a glass of wine with jalapeno in it?

1877
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 6: Yeap, yep, certainly. We We dropped the whole jalapenos. We

1878
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 6: froze them, because that's what they're doing as well right

1879
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 6: now freezing them putting into the glass. But you know,

1880
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 6: we looked at just getting that structure right and not

1881
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 6: getting it too hot or too little as well.

1882
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so do you use jalapeno Jilipino's or do you

1883
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: get some sort of commercially produced powder.

1884
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 6: Or it's a it's a it's a juice. It's a

1885
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 6: Jilipino juice from Mexico, right, we'd love to do it

1886
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 6: from New Zealand. So that's the next thing, right.

1887
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 2: So can we we can grow all around the country seriously. Yeah, yeah,

1888
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: I've got some capsicums in my greenhouse.

1889
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 10: Yep.

1890
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: So they're not far removed from you.

1891
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 6: Know, same family.

1892
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: I can plant them. I can plant I can that's exactly.

1893
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: So you so you supply them at what point of

1894
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 2: the process do they go in?

1895
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 6: So it's nearly a finished wine and then we edit

1896
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 6: in and then just around with a bit with and.

1897
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: What's the constant the level of concentration.

1898
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 6: Very very tiny. He's talking about two to three melts

1899
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 6: in a bottle.

1900
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: Wow. And can you taste it on?

1901
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 6: You can a heat on the back palette, not two

1902
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 6: in your face?

1903
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, and and and so people aren't watching this

1904
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: on video. This is in an agentsis Robinson glass, by

1905
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: the way, which I've got and I thoroughly recommend as

1906
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: a thing. I think, you know, she's done really well

1907
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: with these these So I can't smell it? That would

1908
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: that be your impression? So you're not supposed to smell

1909
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 2: it per se.

1910
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 6: Not on the nose, but in the palette.

1911
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Yeah, so nothing initially, but then

1912
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: what did you call it?

1913
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 6: Better heat on the back palette?

1914
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: The back palet? My back palette's on fire. That's and

1915
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: that that that's what you want. That's I can't work out.

1916
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 2: I suppose that it's a thing. It's a thing, isn't it?

1917
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: But I can't work out why you would want.

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01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 16: To do it?

1919
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. We know that's not for everyone, right,

1920
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 6: but we've seen this with the feedback from buyers. I've

1921
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 6: never had in eighteen years of selling wine.

1922
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 11: With this product.

1923
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 6: And we know wine, you know, the tat of wine

1924
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 6: industry isn't decline. Yeah, but you know the wine industry

1925
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 6: has got to sharp a little different sometimes, and that's

1926
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,520
Speaker 6: you know, you give people what they want exactly.

1927
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: The out of time. But the last question is is

1928
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: it a fad? Do you think now?

1929
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 10: This is? This is long term right.

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Speaker 6: We looked at you know, Rose was supposed to be

1931
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 6: a fair, but that's billion dollar industry now, RTDs it

1932
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 6: was supposed to be a fair, that's a big industry.

1933
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Speaker 6: Now we're seeing wine based cocktails just flying at the moment.

1934
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: So choose.

1935
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 6: We hope there's longevity and something different from New Zealand.

1936
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: Fantastic, good on you mate, Well, nice to nice to

1937
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 2: catch up and see you and everything's going well clearly

1938
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: and this is readily available.

1939
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 6: It takes we're launching about a month in New Zealands

1940
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 6: and then on the water now to the States.

1941
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Speaker 2: It's so fantastic. Well, I'll take this bottle with me.

1942
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 2: I'm on a plane shortly, so I'll drink that on

1943
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: the plane and see how it goes swarming by the

1944
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Speaker 2: time I land in Cross. Nice to see you man.

1945
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

1946
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Speaker 2: Have a good weekend. Tim lightborn out at Vinvivo and

1947
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Speaker 2: we wish you the happiest of weekends. There's always happy

1948
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1949
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