1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Now on to another subject, QS of forming at petrol 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: stations as worried commuters try to fill their tanks before 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: the war in Iran sends the fuel prices through the roof. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: The price of crude oil has shot up since the 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: start of the war. The AA is expecting the petrol 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: prices here to go up next week as a result. 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: Simon param is why Tormal Group's CEO, and he joins me. Now, Hi, Simon, 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: I see the AA reckons the prices will go up 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: next week. But haven't they already gone up? 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Well? I think the market had already priced in a 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: bit of tension with the US Iran nuclear negotiations, but 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: they hadn't certainly hadn't priced in the war. And so 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: that's what we've seen this week as a real spike, 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: and those and those crew prices and specifically the Singaporean 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: plats prices that then flow into our market. 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Are you considering putting up your prices or by how much? 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: Well, looking ahead from where we are today, I think 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: in the coming week we will have to see prices increase, 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: like gasoline between five to ten cents a leader and 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: dzel bow about fifteen to twenty cents a leader. 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: There's some speculation that we could be looking at by 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: thirty cents a liter shortly. Is that I mean, is 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: that something we should be factoring in? 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've just got to take the market, 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, every day at a time. It's been a 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: pretty crazy week, and I think our viewers that if 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: the strait of him Itz opens, then that spike's going 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: to resolve itself pretty quickly. But I guess the thing 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: for the customers out there is to shop around. There 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: are good deals out there. Even when I talk about 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: the prices that we might have to increase, that white 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: time of price will still be below a lot of 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: those full service companies out there today, So you know, 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: shop around. There's good deals out there. 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: If you put your prices up by five to ten 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: cents a lead, where does that put your relative to 37 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: the three dollar mark. 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, our ninety one is about two 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: dollars sixty and our diesels two dollars five, So there's 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: still still a way for us to get to three dollars. 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: But there's some competitors out there at the moment who 42 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: are getting pretty close to that the three dollar mark. 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: What are you guys pricing in for at this stage, 44 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: how long this business goes on for it? 45 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Iran, Well, I guess if we listen to President Trump, 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: he's saying four weeks. I hope it's shorter. But you know, 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: we're just literally taken each day, you know, every day 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: we're hoping for good news and the price is just escalated, escalated, escalated. 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: So where as just a total watching brief, you guys 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: got any cues? Yeah, look, our field demand's been up 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: probably about ten to fifteen percent each day this week, 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: so we are seeing some cues on some sites, but 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: there's product there, plenty of supply there. So it is 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: those customers that are reading the headlines and getting in 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: there and filling up before those those prices increasing. 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering, is it filling up before the 57 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: prices increase or are they freaking out about fuel supply 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: in this country? 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the industry is definitely managing the stock well 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: and they mention it carefully. But there's twenty days of 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: product in the country and there's a ship arriving from 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: Singapore every other day, so you know, I guess supplies 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: in the issue right at this moment, but I think 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: they're looking to just front foot it versus what they're 65 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: seeing in the media and with increasing prices. 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: In in it now, Marsden Point, is this something that we 67 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: need to discuss. 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: It's probably above my pay grade. We've still probably been 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: a similar situation because we have to import crude. All 70 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: we're doing now is we're importing refined products. So it's 71 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: ready to go home. 72 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: So Marsden Point gives us a few weeks supply, right, 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: and apparently there is another twenty nine days worth a 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: supply on the way. Do you actually how realistic is 75 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: it to fullesee a situation in the short term or 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: medium term where we run out of fuel? Is that realistic? 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's realistic, you know. I think the 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: industry here filled with a lot of great professionals who 79 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: who manage that supply and they do a great job 80 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: and know there, like I said, there's a ship arriving 81 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: every second days from Singapore, So that doesn't just happen 82 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: by magic. It happens by a lot of great management. 83 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Simon's good to talk to you, mate, Thank you 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: very much. Simon param who is why Tormal groups CEO 85 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: for more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 86 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio