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Speaker 1: Right now, Barry Soap is here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, bess what's Stephen good Joy's going to say about Trumps?

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Speaker 1: Well, Stephen Joyce will have a lot to say about

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, isn't it. I Mean I've listened and read

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Speaker 2: and everyone is on the same side except Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: it would seem. But yeah, you know the Chinese today,

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Speaker 2: you know the threat that tariffs that we fifty percent

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Speaker 2: more on China. I mean, it just goes on and

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Speaker 2: on and on. It seems this man doesn't quite have

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Speaker 2: a grip on reality.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean there's there's economic insanity going on.

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Speaker 1: But also did you read Cameron Baggery's piece this morning.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting. He talks about the

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Speaker 1: hollowing out that you know, free trade has been great

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Speaker 1: for countries like US, the countries like America. It's hollowed

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Speaker 1: out their manufacturing base. It's hollowed out the rust belt.

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Speaker 1: And so you've got a whole bunch of people in

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Speaker 1: wealthy free trading nations who are feeling quite disenfranchised. And

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Speaker 1: the answer to them is something quite extreme. It's what

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Speaker 1: Trump's doing, yes, but it doesn't mean it to work.

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Speaker 2: That is true, But then it's going to take a

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Speaker 2: generation before you can restore once you once had to

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Speaker 2: unfund what you once had, because you know, if you

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Speaker 2: look at all the manufacturing plants like Nike and Lulu

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Speaker 2: Lemon that were in China went to Vietnam. Now Vietnam

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Speaker 2: is being imposed with a great tariff, and Trump believes

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Speaker 2: that they'll suddenly now upsticks move back to the United States. Well,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't quite work like that. And as somebody said,

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Speaker 2: cell phones will soon cost three thousand bucks a pop

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Speaker 2: because most of their componentory is made outside America.

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Speaker 1: And actually when that happens, I'll be quite I'll be

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Speaker 1: quite happy because we could do without the damn things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the battle with China, I mean I find

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Speaker 2: that incredible. And I see that Trump will I heard

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Speaker 2: them say today that China's a close country. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's got to be having a laugh. I mean, look

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Speaker 2: at New Zealand, for example. Are we export twenty billion

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Speaker 2: dollars worth of product to China now which a year,

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Speaker 2: which is pretty extraordinary. But in the house today, Nikola

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Speaker 2: Willis was being quizzed by her opposite number, Barbara Adam

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Speaker 2: Edmunds from Labor who seem not to realize the gravity

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Speaker 2: of the Trump ter battering ram on this country.

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Speaker 3: Is the government going to use US tariffs and worsening

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Speaker 3: global economic conditions as an excuse to hire their economic mismanagement. No,

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Speaker 3: mister speaker, we don't do excuses.

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Speaker 4: We take responsibility for the actions we can control.

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Speaker 1: The Honorable David Seymour, with.

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Speaker 3: The Minister of Finance, characterize the significant and dramatic and

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Speaker 3: sudden changes in US tariffs as a quote unquote excuse

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Speaker 3: or the biggest thing to hit the world economy in

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Speaker 3: a long time that is creating turmoil in every market.

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Speaker 2: In the world.

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Speaker 3: That must to speak.

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Speaker 4: Minister Seymour makes a very good point.

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Speaker 2: You, well, how could you disagree with that? Honestly? How

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Speaker 2: could you use what's happening in the world as an excuse?

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, it might say more about her than

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Speaker 1: it does about Nichola.

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Speaker 2: It could do too.

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Speaker 1: Now the beat cops and their effect. Tamotha Paul silent

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Speaker 1: on this.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, indeed it was interesting in the House today,

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Speaker 2: Not only Tamatha Paul but the Greens were silent on this.

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Speaker 2: And of course the billboards that we saw and we

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Speaker 2: talked about yesterday attacking Green Party MP's Chloe Swarbrick and

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Speaker 2: Tamotha Pool, both Auckland and Wonnington Central MPs. And the

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Speaker 2: group is of course the Sensible Sentencing Trust and they

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Speaker 2: look like legitimate billboards. A second set of billboards. They said, whoop, whoop,

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Speaker 2: defund police. Now as I understand that, that's a reference

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Speaker 2: to KRS one's track sound of Dark Police. Now I

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Speaker 2: don't know that, but somebody told me that and it

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Speaker 2: was played by Paul during her and I think we

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Speaker 2: heard it. We're listening to it. Yeah, the Cuba Dupa

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Speaker 2: last month. But that was the theme that was picked

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Speaker 2: up by the Police Minister Mark Mitchell, who was defending

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Speaker 2: the police's beat patrols in Paul's own electorate of Wellington

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Speaker 2: Central last year.

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Speaker 4: Alongside a fifty four percent increase in foot patrols aggravated

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Speaker 4: Robbie's in the Wellington district dropped by thirty three point

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Speaker 4: six percent, being visible as a critical part of successful policing,

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Speaker 4: Honorball Chris Bishop, Yes, the Minister received any positive feedback

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Speaker 4: about the Wellington beat teams from the Member of Parliament

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Speaker 4: for Wellington Central. Unfortunately No, the Honorable Paul Goldsmith, is

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Speaker 4: it the government's policy to defund the police. No, it's

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Speaker 4: not this Gillment's policy to defund the police.

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Speaker 2: Then Paul Goldsman is actually not a hip hop man,

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Speaker 2: is he really?

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Speaker 1: You don't have to say that, Tys. But it's the

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Speaker 1: way he says things. I don't know, he's got a

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Speaker 1: weird voice. Hey, staying in Wellington. This is a great

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Speaker 1: story from today if true. If true, Andrew Little apparently

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Speaker 1: going to stand for Maya.

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Speaker 2: Well Yes, and I suspect that's exactly what we'll hear

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Speaker 2: within the next few days. The Labor Party, they've been

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Speaker 2: canvassing around for a candidate and they've really struggled to

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Speaker 2: find one. I mean, it'll be interesting to see if

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Speaker 2: Andrew Little. And he's very much a labor man, of course,

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Speaker 2: he was the former leader of the Labor Party before

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Speaker 2: he stepped aside God for Justin Dern just out from

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Speaker 2: the twenty seventeen election. Perhaps he will be held accountable

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Speaker 2: for that and Wantington Central, but he I think he

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Speaker 2: will stand. He's a good man, Andrew Little. He yes,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's got a good broad view of not

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Speaker 2: just politics but of life in general. I personally get

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Speaker 2: on very wealth and I like him a lot and

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Speaker 2: I hope that he does stand in Wellington, but because

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake do they need it? And the comment

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Speaker 2: from Tory Funnel was that Wellington needed continuity right now.

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Speaker 2: If there's anything they don't need is continuity. They need

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Speaker 2: to get rid of that lot that currently occupy council

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Speaker 2: cheers right now.

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Speaker 1: When they kept Adrian or on for continuity, what that's

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Speaker 1: the opposite of what we need?

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Speaker 2: Just goes to show how out of touch Tory Funew is.

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Speaker 2: She expected she'd be there for three terms. Well, I

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Speaker 2: hate to tell her this, but I don't think she'll

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Speaker 2: be there beyond the October elections.

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Speaker 1: Ryan this textas says, if there is anyone worse than

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Speaker 1: Tory to be the mayor of Wellington, it's Andrew Little.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't put criminals in prison, did nothing on health,

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Speaker 1: was soft on everything when he was a minister. God

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Speaker 1: help Wellington.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that, but yeah, anything's better than Tory.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Barry for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive.

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