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Speaker 1: So new data shows only one in three Kiwi periods

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Speaker 1: have rules around their children's use of social media well

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Speaker 1: the other two out of three doing while a report

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Speaker 1: by Save the Children add net Safe shows over seventy

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Speaker 1: five percent of Kiwi kids what greater restrictions on harmful content.

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Speaker 1: It comes as TikTok presented new child safety features to

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Speaker 1: Parliament on Wednesday. So I'm joined now by netsafe's online

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Speaker 1: safety officer, Sean Lyons, and good Morningita.

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Speaker 2: Sean, good morning.

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Speaker 1: So you spoke to nearly one thousand kids around New

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Speaker 1: Zealand and you found out what they want, and they

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Speaker 1: want less nasties. So why are the adults still faffing about?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think part of that is they

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Speaker 2: should be listening to those young users that are out

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Speaker 2: there beriencing some of those challenges online. Those young people

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Speaker 2: had a real common sense approach to what it was

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Speaker 2: that they wanted. They understand and recognize that there's good

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Speaker 2: stuff that they see online, that they do online, but

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Speaker 2: also that there are steps that could be taken to

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Speaker 2: make them safer online. And you know, like I said,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a real common sense approach that they've

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Speaker 2: come up with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids want to be safe online. So who

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Speaker 1: is responsible for these kids seeing harmful content online? Is

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Speaker 1: it the content providers or is it the government with

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Speaker 1: laws and regulations, or is it the parents?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean who's responsible for them seeing it would

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Speaker 2: be the people that put harmful content online and those

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Speaker 2: that seek to harm individuals. And that's as much the

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Speaker 2: case for young people as it is for adults. And

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Speaker 2: in terms of whose responsibility is it to stop that

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Speaker 2: or deal with that situation, it's a joint responsibility. And

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Speaker 2: it goes from the responsibility of parents to ensure that

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Speaker 2: they know what they are young people are doing and

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Speaker 2: provide support for it for young people directly if they

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Speaker 2: need it. But it's also about regulation, it's also about

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Speaker 2: the platforms, and it's also about education and the support

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Speaker 2: that young people get. But the main thing is it's

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Speaker 2: really about empowering young people to ensure that they know

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Speaker 2: how to look after themselves, how to how to deal

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Speaker 2: with the situation that they come across.

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Speaker 1: And that's very sensible and go the kids. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. The thing that got me is that two

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Speaker 1: out of three QUEUE parents have no rules around their

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Speaker 1: children's use of social media. So what would you like

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Speaker 1: to say to those parents.

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Speaker 2: Certainly when it's no rules at all, that that's something

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Speaker 2: that needs to be reviewed and reviewed regularly. I mean

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Speaker 2: that may well be because without rules, what they have

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Speaker 2: is other systems in place, or they have a degree

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Speaker 2: of confidence in their young people that they know what

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Speaker 2: to do. We could be talking about parents of fifteen

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Speaker 2: sixteen year olds who feel that their children are incredibly

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Speaker 2: well equipped to deal with the challenges that they experience.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then so be it are

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Speaker 2: real worry is that that comes out of parents who

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Speaker 2: don't really understand or haven't really engaged. But's what it

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Speaker 2: is that those online spaces and places that they're young

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Speaker 2: people are in look like. And really what we would

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Speaker 2: the challenge I get that we would give to parents

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Speaker 2: in that situation is that is the case, then this

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Speaker 2: is the time to step in, take a look yourself,

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Speaker 2: talk to you young people about what it is that

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Speaker 2: they experience and how they handle both challenges online, and

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Speaker 2: if you still feel like there's no need to put

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Speaker 2: anything in place, then that's that's an informed decision. I

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Speaker 2: think the likelihood is in that case that it's then time.

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Speaker 2: What you will find out is that it's time to

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Speaker 2: institute something around those young people, be that educating them,

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Speaker 2: be that making a plan, be that working out what

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Speaker 2: it is and isn't. It's stickling your house, but something

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Speaker 2: will probably need to step into that place.

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Speaker 1: Sean very good work. That is Sean Lyon's the net

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