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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from US Talk sed B from Stummer backyard jobs

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Speaker 1: to big Renolds.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk it through.

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Speaker 1: Call oh eight hundred and eighty to eighty The Resident

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Speaker 1: Builder with Peter wolf Camp Youth Talk sed B.

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Speaker 3: A house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 3: grass is overgrown in the.

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Speaker 4: Yard, even when a dog is too old to bar,

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Speaker 4: and when you're sitting at the table trying not to starve.

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Speaker 3: Sisor home, even when we are ben long, even when

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Speaker 3: you're there loone houses a long, even when there's gold,

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Speaker 3: even when you go around from the ones you love,

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Speaker 3: your most screamed and broken pains, A beeing in front.

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Speaker 4: Of the locals lisble.

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Speaker 2: When they're going and leaving their.

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Speaker 4: House, even when wilbran, even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 5: Years old, A real good bolt visible on Sunday, August,

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Speaker 5: the twenty eighth day of December. So New Year's Eve

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Speaker 5: is looming, and as I understand that it's been well,

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Speaker 5: I feeling tumultuous a couple of days in terms of weather,

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Speaker 5: maybe not quite what you expected for Christmas Day or

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Speaker 5: for Boxing Day. And I did see some pictures I

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Speaker 5: think of what looked like either sleet or snow or

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Speaker 5: white Christmas for some in New Zealand, which is a

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Speaker 5: little bit unexpected, RIGHTIOH, Well, good morning and welcome along

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Speaker 5: to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp, the resident Builder.

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Speaker 5: And this is for the last time this year, in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, the Resident Builder on Sunday, on a

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Speaker 5: Sunday morning here at Newstalk c B. So if you've

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Speaker 5: got a question, it might even be something like, you know,

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Speaker 5: you've ended up being gifted something at Christmas and you

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Speaker 5: really don't know what it is or how to use it.

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Speaker 5: And on a serious note, and I might come back

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Speaker 5: to the circle back to this a bit later on.

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Speaker 5: If you have been given some tools, particularly tools that

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Speaker 5: are very good at cutting things skill saws, chainsaws, looppers,

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Speaker 5: there might be an opportunity perhaps to chat with someone

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Speaker 5: tools before you launch into using them. If you're a

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Speaker 5: little bit unfamiliar with them, but hopefully you've had a

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Speaker 5: great Christmas, perhaps in the Christmas stocking some new tools

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Speaker 5: or some and they can be sort of a bit

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Speaker 5: always good to get new tools, but they might also

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Speaker 5: have been given to you as a bit of a

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Speaker 5: reminder that there are jobs to do. There are always

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Speaker 5: jobs to do. Christmas in New Zealand at Aroa is

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Speaker 5: always a time for us to get out, whether it's

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Speaker 5: a bit of painting, whether it's some hard landscaping, whether

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Speaker 5: it's some remedial work. After a year at work, we

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Speaker 5: come home and then spend time working on our houses.

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Speaker 5: So if you've got a project that is underway, you've

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Speaker 5: got a project that you are thinking about, you've got

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Speaker 5: with it. Well we can talk about all of these things.

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Speaker 5: Happy to talk tools and equipment and gear that you

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Speaker 5: a year of significant change for building legislations in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: In large part obviously driven by the current government who

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Speaker 5: they certainly have. What these changes look like going forward,

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Speaker 5: But we can talk a little bit about looking back,

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Speaker 5: we can look forward as well, but mainly it's your

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Speaker 5: all of these things, we can talk about all of it.

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Speaker 5: It's a much nicer today today than it was yesterday,

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I've ever actually experienced rain here,

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Speaker 5: and we're talking to you about your projects. Eight hundred

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Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call of course,

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Speaker 5: from your mobile phone. So if you've got a text

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Speaker 5: a question you'd like to text it through. That's the details.

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Speaker 5: Emails up and running as well, Pete at newstalksb dot

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Speaker 5: a panel discussion on the third, so on the Saturday

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Speaker 5: as well. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 5: to call quick text. I'm installing hybrid flooring throughout my house,

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Speaker 5: starting in kitchen. The kitchen floor is raised nine millimeters

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Speaker 5: it probably will be, then that would be the way

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Speaker 5: slightly and take up any voids, because what you don't

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Speaker 5: the plywood that you're putting down on the top. If

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Speaker 5: down as well. Now, Made of mine, who's obviously listening

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Speaker 5: talk to THEO who's on the line as well. So

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Speaker 5: the lines are open. The number to call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: Sawdust, Stunshine and solid Advice, the resident builder with Peter

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Speaker 1: Wolfcab call, Oh, eight hundred eighty eighty youth talk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 5: Well, first up, I'm going to call it. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to say jet lag, right, and I'm going to use

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Speaker 5: that as an excuse, and I think it's a valid one.

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Speaker 5: We've been in a number of different time zones over

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Speaker 5: pointing that out. My good mate Phil Roade, who runs

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Speaker 5: call them and they'll sort it out professionally. Hey, look,

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Speaker 5: or you could ever go yourself. Oh eight hundred appreciate

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Speaker 6: Good morning feeders of the season to you, to your producer,

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Speaker 6: I hopefully run for you to start today. The hours

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Speaker 6: of building permissible during the week and in the weekends.

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Speaker 6: What are the hours that the builders are allowed to work.

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Speaker 6: And does it make a difference whether it's a noisy

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Speaker 6: type of building banging or concreting or compared to silent

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Speaker 6: like painting or carpet lane or something like that.

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Speaker 5: I think there are differences in terms of whether it's

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Speaker 5: how would you know, right, and it's the radio that

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Speaker 5: will give them away? I it does. It can change

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Speaker 5: council's website and simply type in building hours, it will

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Speaker 5: you can do only four restricted hours during the day.

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Speaker 5: You can still continue to do work later, but at

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Speaker 5: a lower rate typically. And there's also a difference between

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Speaker 5: residential and commercial. So some commercial sites, like I went

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Speaker 5: day and night. On this particular project, and obviously they've

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Speaker 5: on this Sunday, twenty eighth of December. So the new

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Speaker 5: We've had our dining room ceiling light fitting replaced. We

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Speaker 5: not that obvious. But good luck with that. Look, if

429
00:23:57,735 --> 00:24:00,175
Speaker 5: you got stuck into it today, you'd be finished by

430
00:24:00,895 --> 00:24:03,095
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. You get it done this year. Oh,

431
00:24:03,135 --> 00:24:05,335
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'm sure that out

432
00:24:05,335 --> 00:24:09,175
Speaker 5: there there are people rushing to get projects finished because

433
00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:11,455
Speaker 5: they said I'm going to do it in twenty twenty five,

434
00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:15,175
Speaker 5: and you want to get it done. If that's you, hey, look,

435
00:24:15,335 --> 00:24:17,295
Speaker 5: all all power to your arm. I hope it works

436
00:24:17,295 --> 00:24:19,935
Speaker 5: out for you. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

437
00:24:20,015 --> 00:24:22,415
Speaker 5: the number to call. The lines are free. Obviously, texts

438
00:24:22,455 --> 00:24:24,655
Speaker 5: are good, but calls are better. So give us a

439
00:24:24,695 --> 00:24:28,295
Speaker 5: call right now on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. People,

440
00:24:28,295 --> 00:24:31,015
Speaker 5: wolf Camp resident, build it with you this morning. As

441
00:24:31,015 --> 00:24:33,535
Speaker 5: it happens from Los Angeles back in the studio in

442
00:24:33,815 --> 00:24:37,815
Speaker 5: Auckland from next Sunday. So looking forward to getting home

443
00:24:38,175 --> 00:24:40,055
Speaker 5: after a bit of a journey away for the last

444
00:24:40,095 --> 00:24:42,695
Speaker 5: couple of weeks. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

445
00:24:42,935 --> 00:24:45,455
Speaker 5: the number to call another quick text just with regard

446
00:24:45,495 --> 00:24:47,935
Speaker 5: to working, and I guess around this time of year

447
00:24:48,055 --> 00:24:50,975
Speaker 5: it's particularly topical, isn't it. You know, if there's a

448
00:24:50,975 --> 00:24:53,495
Speaker 5: bill of that's under pressure to get the job done,

449
00:24:54,055 --> 00:24:56,015
Speaker 5: are they going to be working Christmas Day? I remember

450
00:24:56,255 --> 00:25:00,175
Speaker 5: a guy that worked with us, gosh a long time ago,

451
00:25:00,415 --> 00:25:05,535
Speaker 5: like thirty odd years ago, didn't observe Christmas, didn't feel

452
00:25:05,535 --> 00:25:09,135
Speaker 5: that it was his kind of holiday. They were stoppers actually,

453
00:25:09,135 --> 00:25:11,495
Speaker 5: and they said, well, we'll just come in work Christmas Day,

454
00:25:12,215 --> 00:25:15,455
Speaker 5: and they did and again stopping. It's fairly quiet, right,

455
00:25:15,495 --> 00:25:19,135
Speaker 5: it's not going to disturb anyone. It'd be very different technically,

456
00:25:19,215 --> 00:25:22,575
Speaker 5: I suppose maybe they shouldn't have done anyway, so a

457
00:25:22,615 --> 00:25:26,175
Speaker 5: long time ago, but yeah, they came in work Christmas Day.

458
00:25:27,215 --> 00:25:29,415
Speaker 5: There will be the temptation at this time of year

459
00:25:29,415 --> 00:25:33,535
Speaker 5: to be you know, maybe working second of January technically

460
00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:37,615
Speaker 5: it's public holiday. And then of course around the country

461
00:25:37,695 --> 00:25:40,815
Speaker 5: we've got things like Auckland Anniversary Day, White Tonguey Day,

462
00:25:41,335 --> 00:25:44,855
Speaker 5: and so on. So lots of public holidays, and if

463
00:25:44,895 --> 00:25:47,815
Speaker 5: you're under the pump, there's always the temptation to get

464
00:25:47,815 --> 00:25:51,415
Speaker 5: that work done someone else's taxed through. Maybe Auckland's different,

465
00:25:51,455 --> 00:25:54,535
Speaker 5: But I've worked virtually every public holiday except Christmas Day

466
00:25:54,535 --> 00:25:56,775
Speaker 5: and Good Friday for the last thirty years and never

467
00:25:56,815 --> 00:26:00,135
Speaker 5: been a complaint or even question. Hey, look, it may

468
00:26:00,255 --> 00:26:02,815
Speaker 5: change around the country. It would depend on the type

469
00:26:02,815 --> 00:26:05,335
Speaker 5: of work that you do. But my own experience was

470
00:26:05,735 --> 00:26:07,775
Speaker 5: I did have one guy who was working on a

471
00:26:07,815 --> 00:26:10,615
Speaker 5: public holiday and he got sent home by the old

472
00:26:10,655 --> 00:26:13,615
Speaker 5: noise control people. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

473
00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:16,015
Speaker 5: the number to call back after the break.

474
00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:19,015
Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks some is the

475
00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:21,335
Speaker 1: time to get it sort of call oh, eight hundred

476
00:26:21,415 --> 00:26:24,895
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. The resident builder with Peter wolfcab News

477
00:26:24,975 --> 00:26:25,615
Speaker 1: Talk zeb.

478
00:26:27,535 --> 00:26:30,855
Speaker 5: Turns out it's a little bit more complicated and involved

479
00:26:31,055 --> 00:26:34,335
Speaker 5: in terms of what types of work and what noise

480
00:26:34,535 --> 00:26:39,095
Speaker 5: regarding or related to construction work is permissible, and so

481
00:26:39,175 --> 00:26:42,815
Speaker 5: on and so forth. So anyway we'll go into that.

482
00:26:42,895 --> 00:26:47,135
Speaker 5: I've because it does change from Council to council. So

483
00:26:47,135 --> 00:26:50,055
Speaker 5: I'm going to stick with Ugland Council because I'm more

484
00:26:50,095 --> 00:26:52,775
Speaker 5: familiar with that, and I'll give you a brief rundown

485
00:26:52,815 --> 00:26:55,735
Speaker 5: of what type of work can happen. Turns out working

486
00:26:55,775 --> 00:26:58,655
Speaker 5: on a Sunday is okay, except there are rules, so

487
00:26:58,655 --> 00:27:00,135
Speaker 5: we'll have a look at those rules in a moment.

488
00:27:00,175 --> 00:27:01,615
Speaker 5: If you'd like to join us, we'd love to hear

489
00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:04,615
Speaker 5: from you this morning on a Sunday morning in a

490
00:27:04,735 --> 00:27:06,895
Speaker 5: news talks ab. It's a great time I have a chat,

491
00:27:06,895 --> 00:27:09,295
Speaker 5: So I call us now. Eight hundred and eighty eighty

492
00:27:09,455 --> 00:27:11,855
Speaker 5: is that number to call? Philip A very good morning

493
00:27:11,895 --> 00:27:12,135
Speaker 5: to you.

494
00:27:13,335 --> 00:27:18,135
Speaker 9: Yes, point pee. I've got a second bedroom on my

495
00:27:18,215 --> 00:27:24,175
Speaker 9: house facing south. It's got a gable at the bedrooms

496
00:27:24,175 --> 00:27:26,655
Speaker 9: about four and a half years wide, with a gable

497
00:27:26,655 --> 00:27:31,535
Speaker 9: above her. And there's no eve on that gable. It's

498
00:27:31,575 --> 00:27:34,455
Speaker 9: it's clad with above the brick. It's a brick house,

499
00:27:35,015 --> 00:27:38,015
Speaker 9: so there must be some sort of framing above the

500
00:27:38,055 --> 00:27:43,695
Speaker 9: bridge and up up to the roofline, and that's the end.

501
00:27:43,735 --> 00:27:47,775
Speaker 9: Gable is colored in that fibrous plaster shooting stuff that

502
00:27:47,815 --> 00:27:52,215
Speaker 9: you call quarter and stick or something. So I have

503
00:27:52,335 --> 00:27:57,575
Speaker 9: a join so that there's two batons going. It was

504
00:27:57,615 --> 00:28:02,215
Speaker 9: about eight batons on on that that cladding, and so

505
00:28:02,255 --> 00:28:04,895
Speaker 9: I have a join in that fibrous plaster stuff.

506
00:28:05,615 --> 00:28:06,175
Speaker 10: What do you call that?

507
00:28:06,855 --> 00:28:09,095
Speaker 9: Sbesto shooting or something is what it was called.

508
00:28:10,015 --> 00:28:12,575
Speaker 5: Look, if it's older, you know, if the house is

509
00:28:12,615 --> 00:28:15,975
Speaker 5: sort of nineteen seventies and earlier, then it'll be some

510
00:28:16,095 --> 00:28:19,135
Speaker 5: form of fiber cement sheet. And yes, most likely it'll

511
00:28:19,175 --> 00:28:21,935
Speaker 5: have asbestos and some of it's quite flat profile is

512
00:28:21,935 --> 00:28:22,455
Speaker 5: the typical.

513
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:27,255
Speaker 9: That's right. So if here's the baton over the top

514
00:28:27,295 --> 00:28:33,975
Speaker 9: of there, so I had leaked a mold inside the room, yes,

515
00:28:34,335 --> 00:28:40,655
Speaker 9: and so that baton had failed, has gone rotten, and

516
00:28:40,735 --> 00:28:43,335
Speaker 9: so there's a joint in those in that fire was shooting.

517
00:28:45,015 --> 00:28:49,095
Speaker 9: Should I seal that fire was shooting up the gap

518
00:28:49,135 --> 00:28:51,295
Speaker 9: in it or leaving the air gap behind it and

519
00:28:51,335 --> 00:28:54,455
Speaker 9: put a new baton over it, or is there a

520
00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:55,455
Speaker 9: better way of doing it?

521
00:28:56,575 --> 00:28:58,975
Speaker 5: Well, I guess the baton was probably installed at a

522
00:28:59,015 --> 00:29:01,735
Speaker 5: time when we didn't have access to the ceilants that

523
00:29:01,815 --> 00:29:04,495
Speaker 5: we do have today. So I think that if the

524
00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,975
Speaker 5: baton has failed, I'd pull that off. I'd clean the

525
00:29:07,055 --> 00:29:10,855
Speaker 5: gap between the two sheets and do some good UV

526
00:29:11,055 --> 00:29:14,615
Speaker 5: stabilized celant like a pseudal or a fix all or

527
00:29:14,655 --> 00:29:18,375
Speaker 5: something like that, toop that into there, and that'll stop

528
00:29:18,455 --> 00:29:21,375
Speaker 5: the weather driving in there, because typically the baton will

529
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:23,495
Speaker 5: have two little grooves on the back that stop water

530
00:29:23,655 --> 00:29:26,415
Speaker 5: tracking around behind the baton. But if that's missing, then

531
00:29:26,495 --> 00:29:30,335
Speaker 5: water will go directly in there. The other thing to

532
00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:34,815
Speaker 5: consider it sounds like that's the most likely source of

533
00:29:34,855 --> 00:29:37,695
Speaker 5: the leak. The other thing is if you don't have

534
00:29:37,815 --> 00:29:42,415
Speaker 5: much of an overhang, how is the barge detail finished

535
00:29:42,535 --> 00:29:44,775
Speaker 5: on the where it connects to the roof. Is there

536
00:29:44,815 --> 00:29:47,695
Speaker 5: a flashing there or is it a coppery tile roof.

537
00:29:48,975 --> 00:29:51,975
Speaker 9: No, it's a scalonized iron. So the flashing comes across

538
00:29:51,975 --> 00:29:56,695
Speaker 9: from the iron down and it's got a bargeboard flashing

539
00:29:56,735 --> 00:30:00,295
Speaker 9: with shaped and that's all quite sealed up and quite

540
00:30:00,335 --> 00:30:03,695
Speaker 9: tight there. Okay, it doesn't make sense. So it can

541
00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:07,175
Speaker 9: get from from that join there all the way. There

542
00:30:07,215 --> 00:30:09,575
Speaker 9: must be some sort of framing sitting on top of

543
00:30:09,615 --> 00:30:13,535
Speaker 9: the bricks, and then get past the stud, the past

544
00:30:13,575 --> 00:30:16,895
Speaker 9: the wall, the past the stud, and then then get

545
00:30:16,935 --> 00:30:21,215
Speaker 9: into these. It just got fibrous plaster on the walls.

546
00:30:21,975 --> 00:30:23,335
Speaker 7: The old, that old.

547
00:30:25,215 --> 00:30:28,895
Speaker 9: What you called fibrous plaster. It says that that doesn't

548
00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:35,295
Speaker 9: that that actually doesn't absorb moisture when you google it online.

549
00:30:35,615 --> 00:30:37,775
Speaker 9: So do I need to take that off or will

550
00:30:37,815 --> 00:30:39,135
Speaker 9: that actually dry out?

551
00:30:40,615 --> 00:30:42,975
Speaker 5: Do you know whether you've got any insulation in the

552
00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:43,935
Speaker 5: ceiling cavity?

553
00:30:44,895 --> 00:30:47,975
Speaker 9: Yes, the cel there's definitely an insulation, and the ceiling

554
00:30:48,015 --> 00:30:54,615
Speaker 9: cavity is I can sorry.

555
00:30:55,415 --> 00:30:58,135
Speaker 5: If it's safe. Can you get up into the ceiling cavity,

556
00:30:58,255 --> 00:31:01,255
Speaker 5: get along there and just see whether the insulation itself

557
00:31:01,335 --> 00:31:05,095
Speaker 5: is damp or whether there's you know, if if the

558
00:31:05,135 --> 00:31:08,375
Speaker 5: insulation's damp, or if you pull the insulation apart, can

559
00:31:08,415 --> 00:31:12,335
Speaker 5: you see where the water has been pulling on the ceiling,

560
00:31:13,775 --> 00:31:17,015
Speaker 5: because you're right, you know, if the leak has occurred

561
00:31:17,135 --> 00:31:21,335
Speaker 5: in the gable cladding, and it's got to then move

562
00:31:21,495 --> 00:31:24,855
Speaker 5: from there over the brick, over the brick cavity, over

563
00:31:24,935 --> 00:31:28,775
Speaker 5: the timber framing, and then into the side of the room.

564
00:31:29,175 --> 00:31:32,735
Speaker 5: It's not impossible. It happens. You know, water will travel

565
00:31:32,815 --> 00:31:36,575
Speaker 5: quite a distance, especially if it's been a long term leak,

566
00:31:36,615 --> 00:31:39,175
Speaker 5: and then that's become a pathway for you know, it

567
00:31:39,295 --> 00:31:41,175
Speaker 5: might be a couple of years since that batterIn came

568
00:31:41,215 --> 00:31:44,335
Speaker 5: down but ideally you'd want to go up there and

569
00:31:44,375 --> 00:31:48,735
Speaker 5: if the insulation is damp, maybe put a dehumidifier up there,

570
00:31:49,135 --> 00:31:53,135
Speaker 5: or just lift the insulation drape it over the supports

571
00:31:53,175 --> 00:31:55,775
Speaker 5: for the trusses. That sort of let some airflow get

572
00:31:55,815 --> 00:31:59,255
Speaker 5: in there, because if you've had that much moisture for

573
00:31:59,295 --> 00:32:01,095
Speaker 5: that much time, your chances are you're going to get

574
00:32:01,095 --> 00:32:02,855
Speaker 5: a little bit of mold growth in there as well.

575
00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:06,895
Speaker 5: The other thing that will help if you dry.

576
00:32:07,215 --> 00:32:10,735
Speaker 9: I can see the fiber board. It doesn't appear to

577
00:32:10,815 --> 00:32:15,815
Speaker 9: be any It doesn't appear to be any paper between

578
00:32:15,815 --> 00:32:21,015
Speaker 9: the fibers. You should, yeah, the fiber board. You would

579
00:32:21,055 --> 00:32:23,855
Speaker 9: have thought there would have been you know, black paper

580
00:32:24,375 --> 00:32:25,935
Speaker 9: underneath that firewater. They don't.

581
00:32:25,975 --> 00:32:30,575
Speaker 5: Yeah, not back then, not back then. So it would

582
00:32:30,575 --> 00:32:33,855
Speaker 5: be fiber cement sheet direct fixed to the timber framing.

583
00:32:34,655 --> 00:32:36,695
Speaker 5: That'll be absorbing a bit of moisture as well. A

584
00:32:36,695 --> 00:32:39,055
Speaker 5: little bit of rain tracks in through there. If it's

585
00:32:39,095 --> 00:32:41,255
Speaker 5: south facing and you get a bit of a southerly

586
00:32:41,335 --> 00:32:45,295
Speaker 5: that will help push that moisture in. That'll probably be that.

587
00:32:45,415 --> 00:32:47,855
Speaker 5: But it sounds like if you deal with the flashing junction,

588
00:32:48,375 --> 00:32:51,655
Speaker 5: good bead of zealant in their cot of paintings required,

589
00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,775
Speaker 5: that should save it. And then if it is still

590
00:32:54,895 --> 00:32:57,335
Speaker 5: quite damp inside the house, you know, if you've got

591
00:32:57,335 --> 00:32:59,375
Speaker 5: a dehumidifier, or if you go and rent once for

592
00:32:59,415 --> 00:33:01,615
Speaker 5: a little while, that will suck all of the last

593
00:33:01,655 --> 00:33:03,775
Speaker 5: of that moisture out there, and when you redo the painting,

594
00:33:03,855 --> 00:33:07,775
Speaker 5: it'll be ticky boot Okay, awesome.

595
00:33:11,215 --> 00:33:11,495
Speaker 9: It out.

596
00:33:12,175 --> 00:33:15,535
Speaker 5: I would see it out absolutely, Okay, take care you,

597
00:33:15,775 --> 00:33:20,775
Speaker 5: thank you. I mean, it is amazing how far moisture

598
00:33:20,775 --> 00:33:24,455
Speaker 5: it will travel. But also if it's a long term

599
00:33:24,575 --> 00:33:30,135
Speaker 5: water leak, the potential for damages is quite extensive if

600
00:33:30,175 --> 00:33:32,135
Speaker 5: it's if it's sat there and sort of rotted away

601
00:33:32,175 --> 00:33:35,375
Speaker 5: for a long period of time. Funnily enough, I was

602
00:33:35,415 --> 00:33:39,215
Speaker 5: reading an article came up, it was actually in the

603
00:33:39,255 --> 00:33:45,135
Speaker 5: New York Times originally just the other day, about automatic

604
00:33:45,255 --> 00:33:48,655
Speaker 5: switch off devices that are triggered by the presence of

605
00:33:48,695 --> 00:33:51,895
Speaker 5: a water leak. And look over the years of doing

606
00:33:51,895 --> 00:33:55,575
Speaker 5: the show, and years of being involved with sort of

607
00:33:55,855 --> 00:33:59,935
Speaker 5: remediation and repair on either rental properties or schools and

608
00:33:59,975 --> 00:34:02,655
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, I've often thought there's got to

609
00:34:02,735 --> 00:34:06,015
Speaker 5: be some sort of way of having a sensor installed

610
00:34:06,135 --> 00:34:10,455
Speaker 5: inside a building that alerts you to water leaks anyway

611
00:34:10,535 --> 00:34:12,855
Speaker 5: this article I can finish reading all of it. But

612
00:34:13,015 --> 00:34:18,895
Speaker 5: it's a really simple, well relatively straightforward device, but it

613
00:34:18,935 --> 00:34:22,975
Speaker 5: does require senses and a device that will turn off

614
00:34:23,055 --> 00:34:27,175
Speaker 5: your let's say, stop valve on the water main if

615
00:34:27,855 --> 00:34:31,055
Speaker 5: water is detected by some of these senses that you

616
00:34:31,055 --> 00:34:34,415
Speaker 5: could put around the house. So imagine if in the laundry,

617
00:34:34,615 --> 00:34:37,855
Speaker 5: maybe in the bathroom, on the bathroom floor, and possibly

618
00:34:37,895 --> 00:34:41,055
Speaker 5: in the kitchen, you were to install a sensor which

619
00:34:41,175 --> 00:34:46,055
Speaker 5: ran back to the controller that sat over a simple

620
00:34:46,255 --> 00:34:49,655
Speaker 5: valve on your water maine that if either of those

621
00:34:49,695 --> 00:34:54,215
Speaker 5: detected water where it shouldn't be, it would simply activate

622
00:34:54,295 --> 00:34:57,655
Speaker 5: this little lever and that would turn off your automat.

623
00:35:00,975 --> 00:35:04,455
Speaker 5: It strikes me as not quite as simple as I

624
00:35:04,495 --> 00:35:06,655
Speaker 5: hoped it would be. But at the same time, you know,

625
00:35:06,695 --> 00:35:09,295
Speaker 5: if you've got something that turns off your water because

626
00:35:09,335 --> 00:35:11,615
Speaker 5: it detects a water leak, you don't want it to

627
00:35:11,655 --> 00:35:14,015
Speaker 5: turn off every time you jump in the shower and

628
00:35:14,055 --> 00:35:17,095
Speaker 5: the machine thinks that your house has sprung a leak.

629
00:35:18,895 --> 00:35:20,735
Speaker 5: It just strikes me as something I'm going to do

630
00:35:20,735 --> 00:35:23,775
Speaker 5: a bit more reading on it because so many people

631
00:35:23,775 --> 00:35:26,015
Speaker 5: that I know have had you know, they come home

632
00:35:26,015 --> 00:35:28,135
Speaker 5: from holiday, they've opened the front door and the water

633
00:35:28,255 --> 00:35:31,935
Speaker 5: is literally just pouring out from upstairs, or you come

634
00:35:31,975 --> 00:35:34,935
Speaker 5: home after it could even be just a day and

635
00:35:35,055 --> 00:35:38,855
Speaker 5: the bath upstairs has sprung a leak, and the ceiling

636
00:35:38,895 --> 00:35:42,495
Speaker 5: and the lounge has collapsed and it's crashed down onto

637
00:35:42,535 --> 00:35:44,975
Speaker 5: the couch and there's water pouring out through the side

638
00:35:44,975 --> 00:35:47,095
Speaker 5: door and all the rest of it, you know, left

639
00:35:47,095 --> 00:35:49,415
Speaker 5: to its own devices are fitting that pops off and

640
00:35:49,455 --> 00:35:52,535
Speaker 5: floods the house can do as I'm sure a number

641
00:35:52,535 --> 00:35:54,535
Speaker 5: of people are sitting there listening to the show right

642
00:35:54,575 --> 00:35:57,495
Speaker 5: now thinking, yep, happened to me. It would be great

643
00:35:57,575 --> 00:36:02,095
Speaker 5: if there was a system whereby water my house would

644
00:36:02,175 --> 00:36:04,655
Speaker 5: detect the fact that I've had a leak and then

645
00:36:04,935 --> 00:36:09,815
Speaker 5: turned it off to at least restrict the damage, because

646
00:36:09,815 --> 00:36:13,615
Speaker 5: certainly I've again heard and being to houses where someone

647
00:36:13,655 --> 00:36:16,655
Speaker 5: has fitting has let go on a let's say, a

648
00:36:16,655 --> 00:36:19,015
Speaker 5: water pipe throughout the house. Cold water, hot water, it

649
00:36:19,015 --> 00:36:22,975
Speaker 5: doesn't any matter which one, and it's run flat out

650
00:36:23,015 --> 00:36:25,455
Speaker 5: for a day, half a day, two days, three days,

651
00:36:25,455 --> 00:36:29,655
Speaker 5: four days before somebody notices it, and by that time

652
00:36:29,735 --> 00:36:33,535
Speaker 5: there is quite extensive damage. Anyway, I'll do a bit

653
00:36:33,535 --> 00:36:35,375
Speaker 5: more reading on that one oh eight hundred and eighty

654
00:36:35,455 --> 00:36:37,535
Speaker 5: ten eighty is that number to call someone else? Just

655
00:36:37,575 --> 00:36:41,415
Speaker 5: talking about the noise restrictions working restrictions. Someone else's text

656
00:36:41,455 --> 00:36:44,535
Speaker 5: through and said, Pete, do the working noise restrictions to

657
00:36:44,615 --> 00:36:48,575
Speaker 5: homeowners working on apply to homeowners working on their own property?

658
00:36:48,615 --> 00:36:51,935
Speaker 5: I skill saw a nail gun renovating a deck. Pat

659
00:36:52,415 --> 00:36:57,295
Speaker 5: My understanding is they don't. So if you, as a homeowner,

660
00:36:57,455 --> 00:37:00,375
Speaker 5: choose to work at home and start as soon as

661
00:37:00,415 --> 00:37:02,895
Speaker 5: the show finishes at nine o'clock on a Sunday morning

662
00:37:03,255 --> 00:37:06,095
Speaker 5: building the deck full of enthusiasm after having listened to

663
00:37:06,095 --> 00:37:09,575
Speaker 5: the show, it doesn't sound like there's anything that anyone

664
00:37:09,655 --> 00:37:14,055
Speaker 5: can do about that, apart from just apply or hoping

665
00:37:14,175 --> 00:37:16,455
Speaker 5: that you'll be a good neighbor and maybe you'll you'll

666
00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:19,815
Speaker 5: desist and start again on Saturday. I have had a

667
00:37:20,015 --> 00:37:24,055
Speaker 5: quick look at the Auckland Council website information on this,

668
00:37:24,655 --> 00:37:30,015
Speaker 5: so in a nutshell within the let's not worry about

669
00:37:30,055 --> 00:37:34,455
Speaker 5: the CBD so in residential areas Monday through Friday from

670
00:37:34,535 --> 00:37:39,055
Speaker 5: six thirty till seven thirty, it's all about descibels, so

671
00:37:39,175 --> 00:37:41,975
Speaker 5: sixty decibels, so that's you can arrive for work and

672
00:37:42,015 --> 00:37:45,055
Speaker 5: get your tools out, but no power tools. Seven thirty

673
00:37:45,135 --> 00:37:49,335
Speaker 5: till six pm. Construction work can proceed at high levels

674
00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:52,255
Speaker 5: up to seventy five decibels. To be fair, if you've

675
00:37:52,295 --> 00:37:54,695
Speaker 5: ever put a discibel reading next to a I don't know,

676
00:37:55,215 --> 00:37:57,335
Speaker 5: impact roll or something like that, it's probably going to

677
00:37:57,375 --> 00:38:00,415
Speaker 5: be higher than seventy five. From six till eight you

678
00:38:00,455 --> 00:38:05,175
Speaker 5: can work, but it's down below seventy. Sundays it's seven

679
00:38:05,335 --> 00:38:10,815
Speaker 5: thirty till six up to seventy five decibels. Outside of

680
00:38:10,815 --> 00:38:15,175
Speaker 5: that time it's forty five decibels Sunday and public holidays.

681
00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:19,455
Speaker 5: Construction workers own is permitted, but the noise level is

682
00:38:19,535 --> 00:38:24,815
Speaker 5: limited to fifty five decibels. And if you're wondering where

683
00:38:24,935 --> 00:38:28,935
Speaker 5: it is that you take that reading, it's actually from

684
00:38:28,975 --> 00:38:32,095
Speaker 5: the boundary. So if someone's working smack bang in the

685
00:38:32,095 --> 00:38:35,655
Speaker 5: middle of the site and they're exceeding forty five decibels,

686
00:38:36,415 --> 00:38:39,015
Speaker 5: you can't take the reading from next to the person.

687
00:38:39,135 --> 00:38:42,335
Speaker 5: You have to take the reading from the boundary, and

688
00:38:42,415 --> 00:38:47,055
Speaker 5: I think it's like one meter inside the boundary. There's

689
00:38:47,095 --> 00:38:50,415
Speaker 5: one project that I was involved in where the neighbors

690
00:38:50,415 --> 00:38:53,855
Speaker 5: were particularly upset at the work that was going on

691
00:38:54,055 --> 00:38:58,615
Speaker 5: and would make a number of noise control complaints, and

692
00:38:58,735 --> 00:39:02,175
Speaker 5: so we started to monitor ourselves, and as I recall,

693
00:39:02,255 --> 00:39:04,535
Speaker 5: that was pretty much the rules. Look, if you've got

694
00:39:04,535 --> 00:39:08,175
Speaker 5: a smartphone, you can download a dissibel reader and that'll

695
00:39:08,175 --> 00:39:10,695
Speaker 5: give you an interesting insight. It's certainly interesting to do

696
00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:14,895
Speaker 5: if you are making noise, just to see what's as

697
00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:17,895
Speaker 5: a planer, louder than a skill saw, louder than an impactrial,

698
00:39:19,055 --> 00:39:21,615
Speaker 5: louder than table saw, that sort of thing. And look,

699
00:39:21,655 --> 00:39:23,455
Speaker 5: the other thing is, no matter what you're doing, if

700
00:39:23,455 --> 00:39:26,335
Speaker 5: it involves any sort of noise above a conversation, make

701
00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:29,975
Speaker 5: sure you're wear any hearing protection as well. Radio, we've

702
00:39:30,015 --> 00:39:32,615
Speaker 5: got new Sport and Weather coming up top of the

703
00:39:32,655 --> 00:39:36,335
Speaker 5: hour at seven o'clock. I'm just checking because it's not

704
00:39:36,375 --> 00:39:38,495
Speaker 5: seven o'clock where I am. It's ten o'clock in the

705
00:39:38,535 --> 00:39:41,375
Speaker 5: morning in Los Angeles right now. But if you've got

706
00:39:41,415 --> 00:39:44,015
Speaker 5: a question of a building nature, oh, eight hundred eighty

707
00:39:44,135 --> 00:39:47,375
Speaker 5: ten eighty is that number to call. I think one

708
00:39:47,415 --> 00:39:49,455
Speaker 5: of the things that we're probably try. I'm just thinking

709
00:39:49,495 --> 00:39:51,295
Speaker 5: ahead to next year as well.

710
00:39:50,975 --> 00:39:51,135
Speaker 4: Well.

711
00:39:51,335 --> 00:39:53,575
Speaker 5: We'll get a couple of our sort of experts back

712
00:39:53,615 --> 00:39:56,535
Speaker 5: on the show. So already we've talked about Ben Thompson,

713
00:39:56,895 --> 00:40:00,135
Speaker 5: it is who was our expert in terms of property law.

714
00:40:00,855 --> 00:40:02,895
Speaker 5: In the last couple of weeks, of course, we spoke

715
00:40:02,935 --> 00:40:06,295
Speaker 5: with Mike Thornton, who is our legal expert in terms

716
00:40:06,615 --> 00:40:10,375
Speaker 5: of construction and construction defects and those sorts of things,

717
00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:13,815
Speaker 5: that there's going to be significant changes with the introduction

718
00:40:13,975 --> 00:40:16,615
Speaker 5: of the mandatory warranty scheme. It's going to be really

719
00:40:16,615 --> 00:40:19,895
Speaker 5: interesting to follow that and track that along, and we'll

720
00:40:19,935 --> 00:40:22,615
Speaker 5: get some of our other experts back in twenty twenty six.

721
00:40:22,695 --> 00:40:25,415
Speaker 5: As this is our last show for twenty twenty five

722
00:40:25,735 --> 00:40:27,415
Speaker 5: your News Talk CEB, we'll take a little bit of

723
00:40:27,455 --> 00:40:29,615
Speaker 5: music up to the news sport and we're the top

724
00:40:29,615 --> 00:40:31,415
Speaker 5: of the hour at seven. Give us a call now.

725
00:40:31,495 --> 00:40:33,535
Speaker 5: The lines are open. The number to call eight hundred

726
00:40:33,655 --> 00:40:34,455
Speaker 5: eighty ten.

727
00:40:34,335 --> 00:41:15,095
Speaker 1: Eighty sums out tools out. Your summer DIY starts here.

728
00:41:15,415 --> 00:41:18,695
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolf can call eight hundred

729
00:41:18,695 --> 00:41:23,335
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Used Talk Zippy.

730
00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:29,655
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Hotel California.

731
00:41:30,415 --> 00:41:33,015
Speaker 5: Such a love, such a long.

732
00:41:33,215 --> 00:41:35,495
Speaker 2: Lace, such a love based.

733
00:41:37,415 --> 00:41:41,975
Speaker 5: Ready roll Hotel Californa.

734
00:41:43,575 --> 00:41:46,375
Speaker 2: Any time here, anytime of here.

735
00:41:46,775 --> 00:41:48,175
Speaker 4: You can find here.

736
00:41:50,615 --> 00:41:56,255
Speaker 3: A simply twisted, she got her Mercedes bends.

737
00:41:57,095 --> 00:41:59,495
Speaker 2: She got a lot of pretty prey by.

738
00:42:01,295 --> 00:42:02,015
Speaker 11: Arms.

739
00:42:03,815 --> 00:42:04,855
Speaker 5: How did that send?

740
00:42:04,895 --> 00:42:07,775
Speaker 2: The good Yards.

741
00:42:18,535 --> 00:42:21,495
Speaker 5: Hosel California. I don't know that that's the name of

742
00:42:21,535 --> 00:42:24,455
Speaker 5: this particular establishment that we're staying in, but I am

743
00:42:24,495 --> 00:42:27,815
Speaker 5: in California at the moment. We are. Family's here and

744
00:42:28,015 --> 00:42:31,055
Speaker 5: heading home back to Auckland a couple of days time,

745
00:42:31,175 --> 00:42:34,415
Speaker 5: so my last show on the road. It's probably a

746
00:42:34,415 --> 00:42:37,615
Speaker 5: bit of thankfulness about that. Eight hundred and eighty ten

747
00:42:37,775 --> 00:42:39,895
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call this the resident builder

748
00:42:39,975 --> 00:42:43,135
Speaker 5: on Sunday. We're talking building, we're talking construction, we're talking

749
00:42:43,935 --> 00:42:47,495
Speaker 5: rules and regulation that govern what you can do when

750
00:42:47,535 --> 00:42:49,575
Speaker 5: you can do it. And certainly this morning it's obviously

751
00:42:49,615 --> 00:42:52,895
Speaker 5: quite topical given that we've had Christmas Day, Boxing Day,

752
00:42:53,175 --> 00:42:56,375
Speaker 5: We're about to have New Year's Day, second to January

753
00:42:56,415 --> 00:42:59,175
Speaker 5: or second New Year's Day. Then, of course a bit

754
00:42:59,255 --> 00:43:02,855
Speaker 5: later on it'll be various anniversary days, Aukland's Anniversary Day,

755
00:43:02,855 --> 00:43:05,455
Speaker 5: at the end of January. I've got wait Tony Day

756
00:43:05,455 --> 00:43:08,575
Speaker 5: coming up, those sorts of things, and there is at

757
00:43:08,575 --> 00:43:11,455
Speaker 5: this time of year the temptation to just keep on working.

758
00:43:11,495 --> 00:43:14,055
Speaker 5: So can you continue to work on public holidays. Well,

759
00:43:14,775 --> 00:43:18,415
Speaker 5: there seems to be it's not as quite clear or

760
00:43:18,535 --> 00:43:22,935
Speaker 5: straightforward as just a prohibition on types of work. It's

761
00:43:22,935 --> 00:43:25,175
Speaker 5: all about dis ol ratings and the other thing that

762
00:43:26,015 --> 00:43:28,655
Speaker 5: because what we're talking about earlier on the show about

763
00:43:29,215 --> 00:43:31,895
Speaker 5: a construction, like there's an apartment going up next to

764
00:43:32,295 --> 00:43:35,495
Speaker 5: Theo's place by the sound of it, or a townhouse

765
00:43:35,575 --> 00:43:39,495
Speaker 5: multi unit development going up, and people are working there

766
00:43:39,535 --> 00:43:43,255
Speaker 5: on a Sunday. It will be even if the let's

767
00:43:43,255 --> 00:43:45,895
Speaker 5: say it's Auckland Council, and let's say the Auckland Council

768
00:43:46,135 --> 00:43:49,295
Speaker 5: rules allow for construction work to happen on a Sunday

769
00:43:49,975 --> 00:43:52,895
Speaker 5: between certain hours, it has to be of a certain level.

770
00:43:53,015 --> 00:43:57,255
Speaker 5: But their particular resource consent, they may have given up

771
00:43:57,415 --> 00:44:02,415
Speaker 5: that privileged let's say of working on a Sunday in

772
00:44:02,495 --> 00:44:04,855
Speaker 5: order to get the resource consent through, in which case

773
00:44:04,895 --> 00:44:08,495
Speaker 5: the resource consent say there will be no activity on

774
00:44:08,615 --> 00:44:11,855
Speaker 5: site or there will be no construction activity regardless of

775
00:44:11,895 --> 00:44:14,855
Speaker 5: the sound. So there's kind of like competing rules and

776
00:44:14,895 --> 00:44:18,255
Speaker 5: regulations around this whole thing. But certainly, if you're looking

777
00:44:18,295 --> 00:44:21,775
Speaker 5: forward to a relaxing time off over summer and there

778
00:44:21,815 --> 00:44:25,615
Speaker 5: is activity next door, I can imagine the frustration. Or

779
00:44:25,695 --> 00:44:27,855
Speaker 5: if you're a homeowner and your neighbor's got a new

780
00:44:27,895 --> 00:44:30,135
Speaker 5: chainsaw and he's desperately keen to try it out on

781
00:44:30,175 --> 00:44:33,095
Speaker 5: Boxing Day, I can also understand the frustration with that.

782
00:44:34,335 --> 00:44:36,335
Speaker 5: Don't think I've ever been there and done that myself,

783
00:44:36,375 --> 00:44:39,135
Speaker 5: but sorely tempted, I suppose with a brand new tool

784
00:44:39,255 --> 00:44:42,975
Speaker 5: at Christmas time. Right, we're talking all things building and construction.

785
00:44:43,095 --> 00:44:46,175
Speaker 5: If you've got a question about building, about the rules

786
00:44:46,215 --> 00:44:49,335
Speaker 5: the regulations, now is the perfect time to call. Eight

787
00:44:49,455 --> 00:44:52,975
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number. Text messages

788
00:44:53,055 --> 00:44:56,375
Speaker 5: they're working fine, that's nine two nine two or ZBZB

789
00:44:56,495 --> 00:44:59,135
Speaker 5: from your mobile phone. And if you'd like to email meet,

790
00:44:59,455 --> 00:45:02,135
Speaker 5: you're more than welcome to do exactly that. It's Pete

791
00:45:02,255 --> 00:45:05,895
Speaker 5: at Newstalk ZB dot co dot InCD So, like I say,

792
00:45:05,935 --> 00:45:08,615
Speaker 5: the line are open. Texts are great, but calls are better.

793
00:45:08,775 --> 00:45:11,135
Speaker 5: Now is a very very good time to call. We've

794
00:45:11,135 --> 00:45:14,135
Speaker 5: got lines free for you. Any projects that you might

795
00:45:14,175 --> 00:45:18,015
Speaker 5: be considering, or you're wondering what the rules and regulations

796
00:45:18,015 --> 00:45:20,975
Speaker 5: are going to look like. The other significant change I

797
00:45:21,015 --> 00:45:23,455
Speaker 5: think that's happened during the course of this year has

798
00:45:23,455 --> 00:45:26,655
Speaker 5: been the introduction of legislation that will allow four seventy

799
00:45:26,695 --> 00:45:31,735
Speaker 5: square meter simple standalone dwellings or granny flats for want

800
00:45:31,735 --> 00:45:34,455
Speaker 5: of a better term, that will be built or could

801
00:45:34,535 --> 00:45:40,015
Speaker 5: be built in your backyard without necessarily requiring a building consent.

802
00:45:40,775 --> 00:45:45,015
Speaker 5: I suppose the challenge with that announcement is that it

803
00:45:45,055 --> 00:45:47,895
Speaker 5: is seen by some people as being there are now

804
00:45:47,975 --> 00:45:53,295
Speaker 5: no rules regarding these types of buildings, but there are. Yes,

805
00:45:53,495 --> 00:45:55,855
Speaker 5: you might not need a building consent, but you're still

806
00:45:55,895 --> 00:45:58,055
Speaker 5: going to need a set of plans. You're still going to,

807
00:45:58,335 --> 00:46:01,975
Speaker 5: I presume, need to show that the building is compliant

808
00:46:02,015 --> 00:46:05,455
Speaker 5: with the building code, in which case, if a builder

809
00:46:05,495 --> 00:46:07,855
Speaker 5: is working on their own, would they be able to

810
00:46:07,975 --> 00:46:10,255
Speaker 5: sort of off the top of their head construct something

811
00:46:10,455 --> 00:46:14,335
Speaker 5: and be able to assure somebody that it's compliant with

812
00:46:14,335 --> 00:46:18,375
Speaker 5: the building code. Maybe, but to be blunt, not that

813
00:46:18,575 --> 00:46:22,695
Speaker 5: many builders would be able to do that. Then you're

814
00:46:22,695 --> 00:46:24,895
Speaker 5: going to have to inform the council. So you're going

815
00:46:24,895 --> 00:46:26,775
Speaker 5: to have to go to them to tell them what

816
00:46:26,815 --> 00:46:28,735
Speaker 5: it is that you plan to do, where you're going

817
00:46:28,775 --> 00:46:30,495
Speaker 5: to put it. So you're going to need a set

818
00:46:30,495 --> 00:46:34,015
Speaker 5: of plans to present to council at that stage, and

819
00:46:34,135 --> 00:46:37,175
Speaker 5: there is still the possibility that council might decline your

820
00:46:37,215 --> 00:46:43,335
Speaker 5: application given that you know it might not fit in

821
00:46:43,415 --> 00:46:47,775
Speaker 5: terms of infrastructure or ability to sustain extra services, et cetera,

822
00:46:47,815 --> 00:46:50,495
Speaker 5: et cetera in the area right now, by the way,

823
00:46:50,615 --> 00:46:54,895
Speaker 5: it isn't law. It will come into effect shortly, but

824
00:46:55,015 --> 00:46:56,855
Speaker 5: right now it doesn't mean that you can start building it.

825
00:46:56,895 --> 00:46:59,575
Speaker 5: And I'm sure there's people out there ready to go,

826
00:47:00,015 --> 00:47:02,695
Speaker 5: wanting to start building these little seventy square meter units

827
00:47:02,735 --> 00:47:05,495
Speaker 5: in the backyards. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're

828
00:47:05,495 --> 00:47:09,055
Speaker 5: talking all things building and construction. And Jeremy, a very

829
00:47:09,055 --> 00:47:10,055
Speaker 5: good morning to you.

830
00:47:11,135 --> 00:47:16,175
Speaker 10: Yeah here a you bet it's a lovely day, very well, yeah, yeah,

831
00:47:16,215 --> 00:47:17,295
Speaker 10: it's a beautiful day here.

832
00:47:18,255 --> 00:47:23,015
Speaker 12: It should be bad, but which is not terribly uncommon.

833
00:47:23,055 --> 00:47:25,295
Speaker 5: I know people give Wellington a hard time, but I've

834
00:47:25,295 --> 00:47:28,335
Speaker 5: certainly been there on days where it's just absolutely glorious.

835
00:47:29,215 --> 00:47:31,455
Speaker 5: And it's that you can't beat Wellington on good days.

836
00:47:31,695 --> 00:47:34,055
Speaker 5: You don't have many of them. Right now, how can

837
00:47:34,095 --> 00:47:34,575
Speaker 5: I help.

838
00:47:34,415 --> 00:47:40,175
Speaker 10: Jeremy, Well, we've got a sort of probably seventy eight

839
00:47:40,255 --> 00:47:47,535
Speaker 10: eighties house and it's got aluminium windows in it, and

840
00:47:48,615 --> 00:47:50,975
Speaker 10: I mean they look great, you know, they look at

841
00:47:50,975 --> 00:47:57,655
Speaker 10: a very good condition. Are they worthwhile retro glazing? You know,

842
00:47:57,775 --> 00:48:00,775
Speaker 10: some of the rubbers are starting to come out, which

843
00:48:00,815 --> 00:48:04,375
Speaker 10: is easy enough to get redone, sure, but we're just

844
00:48:04,415 --> 00:48:09,095
Speaker 10: wondering whether it's worthwhile retro glazing them with double glazing

845
00:48:09,935 --> 00:48:13,655
Speaker 10: or can you triple glaze them. The only issue is

846
00:48:13,895 --> 00:48:20,335
Speaker 10: you'd have to get new sashes for the sashes because

847
00:48:21,335 --> 00:48:24,935
Speaker 10: they're only you know, single, they're not they're not like

848
00:48:25,095 --> 00:48:29,935
Speaker 10: the modern extrusion. They're only a single will only take

849
00:48:29,935 --> 00:48:33,895
Speaker 10: a single pain yep. So the option is, you know,

850
00:48:34,015 --> 00:48:36,615
Speaker 10: we either get them retroglazed or we take them out

851
00:48:36,655 --> 00:48:39,575
Speaker 10: and put new ones. And so what what's the actual story?

852
00:48:40,815 --> 00:48:41,015
Speaker 10: You know?

853
00:48:42,695 --> 00:48:45,935
Speaker 5: I mean, these things are never quite as simple as

854
00:48:45,935 --> 00:48:48,615
Speaker 5: they seem. So you're right to have identified the fact

855
00:48:48,655 --> 00:48:50,975
Speaker 5: that a bit of single glazing that you've gotten your

856
00:48:51,015 --> 00:48:53,615
Speaker 5: aluminium joiner at the moment is not giving you a

857
00:48:53,655 --> 00:48:57,215
Speaker 5: great deal of protection from the cold outside and wanting

858
00:48:57,215 --> 00:49:00,615
Speaker 5: to retain the heat inside. So I think what's really

859
00:49:00,615 --> 00:49:05,175
Speaker 5: important is that we look at windows as two components. Right,

860
00:49:05,215 --> 00:49:07,655
Speaker 5: there's the glazing and then there's the frame or the

861
00:49:07,775 --> 00:49:13,055
Speaker 5: joinery itself. So if you were to upgrade the glazing

862
00:49:13,255 --> 00:49:16,575
Speaker 5: by taking the single glazing out and replacing with double glazing.

863
00:49:16,935 --> 00:49:20,295
Speaker 5: That will be much more thermally effective. So that's a

864
00:49:20,295 --> 00:49:23,375
Speaker 5: good thing. What it's not dealing with is the issue

865
00:49:23,415 --> 00:49:28,295
Speaker 5: that you've got aluminium framing. Aluminium joinery is a very

866
00:49:28,335 --> 00:49:32,575
Speaker 5: good conductor of heat, right, So potentially if there's heat

867
00:49:32,615 --> 00:49:35,095
Speaker 5: inside your house and you've trapped it from going out

868
00:49:35,135 --> 00:49:38,495
Speaker 5: through your single glazing, it's going to find it's going

869
00:49:38,535 --> 00:49:41,175
Speaker 5: to put more effort into getting out through your aluminium

870
00:49:42,175 --> 00:49:45,975
Speaker 5: and you could do an upgrade, but it won't stop

871
00:49:46,015 --> 00:49:49,135
Speaker 5: that particular feature then, So that then gets you to

872
00:49:49,175 --> 00:49:52,375
Speaker 5: start thinking about, well, hang on, what about you know,

873
00:49:52,455 --> 00:49:56,135
Speaker 5: if the hardware's a little bit old and the hinges

874
00:49:56,175 --> 00:49:58,015
Speaker 5: are starting to get a bit old, and the rubbers

875
00:49:58,055 --> 00:50:00,015
Speaker 5: are starting to come out and all the rest of it.

876
00:50:00,055 --> 00:50:05,535
Speaker 5: Depending on the type of joinery, whether it's how easy

877
00:50:05,535 --> 00:50:07,975
Speaker 5: it is to get to, whether it's fixed with the

878
00:50:08,095 --> 00:50:12,535
Speaker 5: architraves on the inside or rebated jams, or whether it's

879
00:50:12,575 --> 00:50:14,975
Speaker 5: you know, how it's fixed or attached to the planting

880
00:50:15,015 --> 00:50:18,295
Speaker 5: on the exterior, the planning could start clean loot.

881
00:50:19,855 --> 00:50:25,215
Speaker 10: The planting is actually brickwork, so I've put them in before,

882
00:50:26,135 --> 00:50:28,935
Speaker 10: and you know, you can just they're not. They haven't

883
00:50:28,935 --> 00:50:32,575
Speaker 10: got architraves around. You could just pull them out from

884
00:50:32,615 --> 00:50:39,095
Speaker 10: the inside, but because you know, when you look at it,

885
00:50:39,095 --> 00:50:41,415
Speaker 10: it's probably going to cost to do. We're in a

886
00:50:41,455 --> 00:50:46,175
Speaker 10: sort of semi detached flat and it's in very good condition,

887
00:50:47,615 --> 00:50:50,175
Speaker 10: and even the aluminium journey is in very good condition,

888
00:50:50,255 --> 00:50:52,415
Speaker 10: considering it must be. You know, it's getting close to

889
00:50:52,455 --> 00:50:58,375
Speaker 10: fifty years. But you know, you weigh it up, it's

890
00:50:58,375 --> 00:51:00,895
Speaker 10: probably going to cost you fifty grand to put them

891
00:51:00,895 --> 00:51:04,295
Speaker 10: into you know, into the what we've got, and whether

892
00:51:04,335 --> 00:51:07,615
Speaker 10: it's worthwhile just you know, red glazing them and getting

893
00:51:07,655 --> 00:51:09,935
Speaker 10: good curtains because you know, I've been sort of listening

894
00:51:09,975 --> 00:51:13,215
Speaker 10: and in lots of cases they say, well, you know,

895
00:51:13,335 --> 00:51:18,815
Speaker 10: good good thermal curtains. And we've been in We've just

896
00:51:18,895 --> 00:51:22,095
Speaker 10: been in this house for a year, so we've been

897
00:51:22,135 --> 00:51:25,415
Speaker 10: through a winter with just one heat pump and some

898
00:51:25,495 --> 00:51:29,175
Speaker 10: oil color meters and it's quite it's quite livable. You know,

899
00:51:29,215 --> 00:51:32,535
Speaker 10: we're not shivering or sweeping in their clothes sort of thing.

900
00:51:32,575 --> 00:51:32,775
Speaker 10: You know.

901
00:51:34,735 --> 00:51:37,615
Speaker 5: I mean, there's always that thing of good, better, best, right,

902
00:51:38,535 --> 00:51:44,175
Speaker 5: So depending on budget or inclination or those sorts of things,

903
00:51:44,175 --> 00:51:46,615
Speaker 5: you could go, hey, look if I go from single

904
00:51:46,655 --> 00:51:49,775
Speaker 5: glazing to double glazing. That's better without a doubt, right,

905
00:51:49,815 --> 00:51:52,775
Speaker 5: And all the evidence is there, the numbers are there.

906
00:51:52,895 --> 00:51:55,455
Speaker 5: I can tell you that it'll be seven times more

907
00:51:55,495 --> 00:51:58,575
Speaker 5: effective to go from single glazing to double glazing, and

908
00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:01,215
Speaker 5: there's evidence to back that up. Then you go, okay,

909
00:52:01,255 --> 00:52:04,135
Speaker 5: well if I do, if I've got if I'm then

910
00:52:04,175 --> 00:52:05,415
Speaker 5: at good, could I be better?

911
00:52:05,535 --> 00:52:05,655
Speaker 11: Well?

912
00:52:05,775 --> 00:52:08,015
Speaker 5: Yeah you could. You could look at the frames and

913
00:52:08,015 --> 00:52:11,055
Speaker 5: say if I pulled those out and replace them with uPVC,

914
00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:14,775
Speaker 5: for example, then I get the benefit of new seals,

915
00:52:14,855 --> 00:52:18,855
Speaker 5: new hardware, it's going to be more air tight. Then

916
00:52:19,175 --> 00:52:24,615
Speaker 5: that gets me to better. So then you know, I

917
00:52:24,615 --> 00:52:26,975
Speaker 5: think what's really really exciting at the moment is that

918
00:52:27,015 --> 00:52:30,055
Speaker 5: we're starting to be aware of all of these options.

919
00:52:30,375 --> 00:52:33,455
Speaker 5: So yes, you could do this if you did that,

920
00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:36,695
Speaker 5: plus replace the frames like with the uPVC. So the

921
00:52:36,735 --> 00:52:40,855
Speaker 5: guys that I know at Dark Joinery who do the uPVC,

922
00:52:41,335 --> 00:52:44,895
Speaker 5: they've got sort of resellers right around the country who

923
00:52:44,935 --> 00:52:49,855
Speaker 5: will come do a site measure and then simply they'll

924
00:52:49,935 --> 00:52:53,175
Speaker 5: arrive back, they'll pull your existing aluminum out, they'll replace

925
00:52:53,215 --> 00:52:55,615
Speaker 5: it with the uPVC frame that will fit exactly into

926
00:52:55,615 --> 00:52:58,135
Speaker 5: the hole and with it will come in the double glazing.

927
00:52:59,495 --> 00:53:02,215
Speaker 5: One of my actually one of my nephews did it

928
00:53:02,255 --> 00:53:04,215
Speaker 5: on his place a couple of years ago. Made a

929
00:53:04,375 --> 00:53:08,295
Speaker 5: dramatic difference, right, And this was an old home well

930
00:53:08,695 --> 00:53:15,095
Speaker 5: actually similar inteag to yours, weatherboard, timber framing, old timber joinery.

931
00:53:15,375 --> 00:53:19,415
Speaker 5: They simply pulled the sashes out and inserted a liner

932
00:53:19,615 --> 00:53:22,855
Speaker 5: into that space, So it was a really simple swapover.

933
00:53:23,055 --> 00:53:26,695
Speaker 5: But by going to UPBC, they also ended up with

934
00:53:27,415 --> 00:53:33,055
Speaker 5: new hardware, new handles, new hinges, and really thermally effective frames.

935
00:53:33,175 --> 00:53:36,735
Speaker 5: Plus the double glazing went into it and in the

936
00:53:36,735 --> 00:53:39,655
Speaker 5: house like that, and they spent time putting insulation into

937
00:53:39,695 --> 00:53:43,335
Speaker 5: the exterior walls. You know, it's a dramatically different house.

938
00:53:43,935 --> 00:53:46,455
Speaker 5: And what I'm saying is, I think what's really exciting

939
00:53:46,535 --> 00:53:50,055
Speaker 5: about the development of building science at the moment is

940
00:53:50,095 --> 00:53:53,775
Speaker 5: that we can actually measure and quantify all of these things.

941
00:53:53,775 --> 00:53:55,855
Speaker 5: So if I go double glazing, that's going to be

942
00:53:55,895 --> 00:53:58,415
Speaker 5: this much better. If I go double glazing plus uPVC,

943
00:53:58,695 --> 00:54:01,495
Speaker 5: it's going to be this much better, And potentially you

944
00:54:01,495 --> 00:54:03,815
Speaker 5: could then start to work out what are my savings

945
00:54:03,935 --> 00:54:08,655
Speaker 5: energy wise as well. Look, it's it's all there as

946
00:54:08,695 --> 00:54:13,575
Speaker 5: options it's good better. Best is how you have to

947
00:54:13,615 --> 00:54:14,855
Speaker 5: determine what you're going to do.

948
00:54:16,335 --> 00:54:19,135
Speaker 10: Yeah, well this is a brick you know, a brick

949
00:54:19,175 --> 00:54:20,495
Speaker 10: house in very good condition.

950
00:54:21,255 --> 00:54:22,575
Speaker 2: It's yep.

951
00:54:23,215 --> 00:54:29,215
Speaker 13: Andior walls No, No, that's because I've just pulled out

952
00:54:29,255 --> 00:54:36,895
Speaker 13: a wall and it's on a corner and I've reentulated it.

953
00:54:36,935 --> 00:54:40,495
Speaker 10: But there is there's no insulation in any of the walls.

954
00:54:40,535 --> 00:54:42,455
Speaker 10: But I mean we didn't find it unbearable, you know,

955
00:54:43,295 --> 00:54:44,375
Speaker 10: for a winter in Wellington.

956
00:54:45,975 --> 00:54:47,895
Speaker 5: I mean look again, from a you know, from a

957
00:54:47,895 --> 00:54:51,175
Speaker 5: building science point of view, you'd go, Actually, if you're

958
00:54:51,215 --> 00:54:56,095
Speaker 5: going to put money basically into double glazing and replacing

959
00:54:56,135 --> 00:55:00,415
Speaker 5: the frames and not insulate the walls, I hate to

960
00:55:00,455 --> 00:55:02,215
Speaker 5: say it, but there's not a lot to be gained, right,

961
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:04,935
Speaker 5: You've got to think about the thermal envelope. You've got

962
00:55:04,935 --> 00:55:07,775
Speaker 5: to think about a sort of holistic approach to insulating

963
00:55:07,775 --> 00:55:13,215
Speaker 5: the building. Arguably, you know, and because in each of

964
00:55:13,255 --> 00:55:16,615
Speaker 5: your rooms with an exterior wall, just do a calculation

965
00:55:16,975 --> 00:55:19,375
Speaker 5: how much of its window, how much of it is wall.

966
00:55:19,815 --> 00:55:22,975
Speaker 5: If the majority is wall, then by putting insulation into

967
00:55:23,015 --> 00:55:27,495
Speaker 5: the wall, you're going to get more benefits. So I'll

968
00:55:27,535 --> 00:55:30,535
Speaker 5: tell you what actually one of the here's another thing

969
00:55:30,735 --> 00:55:32,335
Speaker 5: if you want to do a bit of summer reading.

970
00:55:33,095 --> 00:55:36,975
Speaker 5: So the Super Home Movement, who released the Healthy Homes

971
00:55:36,975 --> 00:55:40,295
Speaker 5: Guide a little while ago, have just released a guide

972
00:55:40,335 --> 00:55:43,535
Speaker 5: for people doing renovations. So if you search for Super

973
00:55:43,575 --> 00:55:47,135
Speaker 5: Home Movement and then search for their renovation guide, it

974
00:55:47,175 --> 00:55:50,135
Speaker 5: will it may not give you the answers, but it

975
00:55:50,215 --> 00:55:54,175
Speaker 5: will tell you about the questions that you should be

976
00:55:54,255 --> 00:55:58,415
Speaker 5: asking and the sort of impact that different things could

977
00:55:58,415 --> 00:56:00,015
Speaker 5: make to your house. So have a look at the

978
00:56:00,015 --> 00:56:02,095
Speaker 5: renovation guide from the Super Home Movement.

979
00:56:03,815 --> 00:56:04,015
Speaker 14: Yeah.

980
00:56:04,055 --> 00:56:05,615
Speaker 10: Well, the other thing that we've got to weigh up

981
00:56:05,735 --> 00:56:09,855
Speaker 10: is that we're in their seventies and you know, whether

982
00:56:09,895 --> 00:56:12,535
Speaker 10: it's worth while going through all that because he does

983
00:56:12,575 --> 00:56:14,335
Speaker 10: you know, notose teen years you might be at a

984
00:56:14,375 --> 00:56:16,855
Speaker 10: retirement home, you know, and if you can bet.

985
00:56:16,695 --> 00:56:19,335
Speaker 5: That's right, And these are the constraints that we all

986
00:56:19,415 --> 00:56:24,535
Speaker 5: work with, right, It's it's you know, do I you know,

987
00:56:24,535 --> 00:56:25,935
Speaker 5: you get a certain amount of money to live on

988
00:56:25,975 --> 00:56:27,095
Speaker 5: and all the rest of it, do you tip it

989
00:56:27,135 --> 00:56:28,175
Speaker 5: into a house or do you take a.

990
00:56:28,135 --> 00:56:34,255
Speaker 10: Trip exactly for the winter, going to Indonesia or something

991
00:56:34,335 --> 00:56:36,415
Speaker 10: like that for the hard part and just coming back

992
00:56:36,695 --> 00:56:37,335
Speaker 10: warming up.

993
00:56:39,375 --> 00:56:40,815
Speaker 5: I think in all the years, I've never had someone

994
00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:42,855
Speaker 5: suggest that rather than insulate your house, you just go

995
00:56:42,935 --> 00:56:45,615
Speaker 5: to somewhere warmer over the winter. But hey, look, if

996
00:56:45,655 --> 00:56:48,095
Speaker 5: it works for you, it works for you, Jeremy. I

997
00:56:48,175 --> 00:56:52,815
Speaker 5: really enjoyed the conversation. But and again, I just think

998
00:56:52,855 --> 00:56:56,215
Speaker 5: it's so exciting that we've got so much more knowledge

999
00:56:56,255 --> 00:56:59,375
Speaker 5: about how our buildings work in order to make really

1000
00:56:59,415 --> 00:57:01,415
Speaker 5: informed decisions about where am I going to put my

1001
00:57:01,455 --> 00:57:04,375
Speaker 5: effort and my money in terms of getting a better

1002
00:57:04,415 --> 00:57:06,295
Speaker 5: building that's going to look after me and my family.

1003
00:57:07,655 --> 00:57:09,375
Speaker 10: But when I when I listen to you, and when

1004
00:57:09,375 --> 00:57:13,135
Speaker 10: I look at how old we are and the type

1005
00:57:13,535 --> 00:57:18,455
Speaker 10: we've got, it really comes down unless you're going to

1006
00:57:18,695 --> 00:57:27,055
Speaker 10: pull the walls off, we're probably better getting good thermal

1007
00:57:27,095 --> 00:57:30,855
Speaker 10: curtains and perhaps putting in retro gazing for a little

1008
00:57:30,855 --> 00:57:33,855
Speaker 10: bit that if anybody else wants to do it in

1009
00:57:33,895 --> 00:57:37,335
Speaker 10: the future, they can, you know, they can put the

1010
00:57:37,335 --> 00:57:39,295
Speaker 10: insulation in, or if I feel like it, I just

1011
00:57:39,295 --> 00:57:42,135
Speaker 10: go room to room and put the insulation because it's

1012
00:57:42,255 --> 00:57:44,535
Speaker 10: because you're really only looking at each room as two

1013
00:57:44,575 --> 00:57:50,895
Speaker 10: walls to the outside typically yes, walls, yeah, yeah, Okay.

1014
00:57:51,055 --> 00:57:54,855
Speaker 5: Really enjoyed the conversation Jeremy, my wife.

1015
00:57:54,735 --> 00:57:56,695
Speaker 10: My wife will be My wife will be very happy.

1016
00:57:56,775 --> 00:58:01,095
Speaker 5: You're off the hook. All the best. And as I

1017
00:58:01,175 --> 00:58:05,015
Speaker 5: mentioned to Jeremy, this is when we spoke actually with

1018
00:58:05,615 --> 00:58:10,815
Speaker 5: Dan Saunders actually who's a carpenter in christ Church, heavily

1019
00:58:10,855 --> 00:58:14,535
Speaker 5: involved with the super home movement. Just in being November

1020
00:58:14,575 --> 00:58:18,415
Speaker 5: December that we chatted with him. So the super Home Movement,

1021
00:58:18,455 --> 00:58:21,495
Speaker 5: which is a collection of people involved in building science

1022
00:58:21,535 --> 00:58:24,815
Speaker 5: and building efficiency and so on, the energy efficiency, have

1023
00:58:24,895 --> 00:58:28,455
Speaker 5: got together to produce the super Home Guide Healthy Homes

1024
00:58:28,455 --> 00:58:30,495
Speaker 5: Guide a couple of years ago, but now they've done one

1025
00:58:30,535 --> 00:58:34,215
Speaker 5: that's very much focused on renovation. So if you're in

1026
00:58:34,295 --> 00:58:36,615
Speaker 5: your house a little bit like Jeremy, and you're going

1027
00:58:37,095 --> 00:58:40,495
Speaker 5: where do I start? You know what's going to give

1028
00:58:40,575 --> 00:58:43,735
Speaker 5: me the greatest benefit because all of us are constrained

1029
00:58:43,735 --> 00:58:48,255
Speaker 5: by budget. Check out the Super Home Movement's Renovation Guide,

1030
00:58:48,255 --> 00:58:51,575
Speaker 5: which is recently released. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1031
00:58:51,655 --> 00:58:53,855
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to coour. We'll take a short break.

1032
00:58:53,855 --> 00:58:57,935
Speaker 5: We'll talk to Steve in a moment. And one of

1033
00:58:57,935 --> 00:59:01,895
Speaker 5: the you know, if I'm traveling and someone said, why

1034
00:59:01,895 --> 00:59:03,415
Speaker 5: don't you just have a whole day and not worry

1035
00:59:03,455 --> 00:59:07,095
Speaker 5: about work. I like what I do, and in traveling

1036
00:59:07,095 --> 00:59:11,375
Speaker 5: around it's been really interesting to see different building methodologies

1037
00:59:12,335 --> 00:59:17,055
Speaker 5: where different countries are at. And the house that we

1038
00:59:17,095 --> 00:59:20,815
Speaker 5: stayed with some friends for a period of time, which

1039
00:59:20,935 --> 00:59:24,255
Speaker 5: you know, genuinely cold. It was two degrees the other

1040
00:59:24,295 --> 00:59:30,775
Speaker 5: morning and will be for months on end in that

1041
00:59:30,815 --> 00:59:33,775
Speaker 5: part of the world. They'd done a great job of

1042
00:59:33,935 --> 00:59:37,575
Speaker 5: insulating the house, of putting in really good quality joinery,

1043
00:59:37,695 --> 00:59:41,255
Speaker 5: really good quality glazing. They had a heat recovery system

1044
00:59:41,455 --> 00:59:46,095
Speaker 5: within in the house of mechanical ventilation, heat recovery system,

1045
00:59:46,295 --> 00:59:48,815
Speaker 5: and the house was just a delight to be and

1046
00:59:48,895 --> 00:59:53,335
Speaker 5: given that when you stepped out, genuinely it was breezing cold.

1047
00:59:53,375 --> 00:59:55,495
Speaker 5: So if you do a good job in your house,

1048
00:59:55,575 --> 00:59:57,775
Speaker 5: it'll look after you. We'll come back after the break.

1049
00:59:57,815 --> 00:59:59,615
Speaker 5: It is seven five.

1050
01:00:00,455 --> 01:00:02,855
Speaker 2: From summer backyard jobs to Big Rednos.

1051
01:00:02,975 --> 01:00:06,855
Speaker 1: Let's talk it through Call oh eight hundred eighty resident

1052
01:00:06,895 --> 01:00:09,495
Speaker 1: building with peterwolfcab News Talk ZBI.

1053
01:00:11,695 --> 01:00:14,055
Speaker 5: Someone sets through about sort of you know, how is

1054
01:00:14,095 --> 01:00:16,895
Speaker 5: it that I'm well, technically, I guess on holiday, but

1055
01:00:17,175 --> 01:00:20,135
Speaker 5: I'm still out there looking at buildings and looking at

1056
01:00:20,255 --> 01:00:24,455
Speaker 5: building methodologies and housing and legislation and so on look

1057
01:00:24,535 --> 01:00:27,935
Speaker 5: to be blunt. It's because I really enjoy it. I

1058
01:00:28,015 --> 01:00:31,775
Speaker 5: find it endlessly fascinating. So the opportunity, and I mentioned

1059
01:00:31,775 --> 01:00:34,015
Speaker 5: this last week on the show. I was at an event,

1060
01:00:34,175 --> 01:00:37,335
Speaker 5: let's say, and was talking to someone who works for

1061
01:00:37,375 --> 01:00:39,735
Speaker 5: one of the large group home builders in the UK.

1062
01:00:40,015 --> 01:00:43,055
Speaker 5: So I don't know where we're at with building consents

1063
01:00:43,095 --> 01:00:46,455
Speaker 5: in New Zealand, let's say in twenty twenty five or thereabouts,

1064
01:00:46,455 --> 01:00:51,135
Speaker 5: but we're probably somewhere around thirty thousand building consents or

1065
01:00:51,215 --> 01:00:54,815
Speaker 5: thirty thousand projects underway. The person that I was speaking with,

1066
01:00:54,855 --> 01:00:57,215
Speaker 5: in the company that they work with or work for,

1067
01:00:58,135 --> 01:01:02,735
Speaker 5: they do twenty thousand houses. Just then, right that one

1068
01:01:02,895 --> 01:01:06,895
Speaker 5: company produces twenty thousand houses. I think our largest builders

1069
01:01:06,935 --> 01:01:10,095
Speaker 5: would be doing about I don't know, sixteen seventeen hundred

1070
01:01:10,735 --> 01:01:14,735
Speaker 5: in total. So it's the incredible scale of it. And

1071
01:01:14,895 --> 01:01:18,255
Speaker 5: certainly driving around, because we were in London for a bit,

1072
01:01:18,335 --> 01:01:22,655
Speaker 5: we also north of London watching the developments, what was fascinating,

1073
01:01:22,695 --> 01:01:27,295
Speaker 5: just very very briefly, most of the developments the houses

1074
01:01:27,615 --> 01:01:32,575
Speaker 5: look like old fashioned houses. Basically where I was, where

1075
01:01:32,615 --> 01:01:34,775
Speaker 5: I was and where we were driving around, I didn't

1076
01:01:34,775 --> 01:01:38,655
Speaker 5: see a lot of new developments, let's say suburbs Greenfield

1077
01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:43,295
Speaker 5: developments that were what I would call modern architecture. You

1078
01:01:43,375 --> 01:01:46,895
Speaker 5: drove around and what you saw was a two story building,

1079
01:01:47,455 --> 01:01:51,935
Speaker 5: basically square, with a single ridge hip on it, reasonably

1080
01:01:51,975 --> 01:01:55,375
Speaker 5: steep pitched in red brick. That was it, and there

1081
01:01:55,415 --> 01:01:59,295
Speaker 5: was just hundreds of them going up. It was quite fascinating.

1082
01:01:59,655 --> 01:02:01,895
Speaker 5: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is that i'mber to call.

1083
01:02:03,135 --> 01:02:06,655
Speaker 5: I also find that I can't resist going to a

1084
01:02:06,695 --> 01:02:10,575
Speaker 5: hardware store when I'm traveling as well. So thus far

1085
01:02:11,015 --> 01:02:13,975
Speaker 5: I've been to hardware stores across parts of the UK.

1086
01:02:15,415 --> 01:02:18,415
Speaker 5: In Paris briefly and a little bit later on today,

1087
01:02:18,455 --> 01:02:20,655
Speaker 5: I'm going to walk down There's a place called Harbor

1088
01:02:20,695 --> 01:02:23,655
Speaker 5: Freight Tools which is up the road, and there's another

1089
01:02:23,655 --> 01:02:27,255
Speaker 5: place called Ace Hardware which is a little way down

1090
01:02:27,455 --> 01:02:30,255
Speaker 5: the other way. So I think I might find that

1091
01:02:30,535 --> 01:02:32,415
Speaker 5: I'll spend a little bit of time in both of

1092
01:02:32,455 --> 01:02:35,015
Speaker 5: those hardware stores today as well. The lines are open

1093
01:02:35,055 --> 01:02:36,935
Speaker 5: the number to call. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1094
01:02:37,055 --> 01:02:39,135
Speaker 5: eighty Steve, Good morning to you.

1095
01:02:40,175 --> 01:02:43,055
Speaker 7: Oh good a mate, compliments to you and your family

1096
01:02:43,815 --> 01:02:44,455
Speaker 7: this time.

1097
01:02:44,335 --> 01:02:45,455
Speaker 5: Thank you, into you and yours.

1098
01:02:46,455 --> 01:02:49,735
Speaker 7: Yeah cool, I've got a bit of a summer backtime

1099
01:02:49,815 --> 01:02:51,695
Speaker 7: project on the go, and I'm just going to get

1100
01:02:51,735 --> 01:02:59,215
Speaker 7: your thoughts around. I've thought it use bits of retaining

1101
01:02:59,575 --> 01:03:02,815
Speaker 7: and decking and sending a little bit of landscaping for

1102
01:03:02,895 --> 01:03:05,495
Speaker 7: quite a number of years, and I kind of just

1103
01:03:05,535 --> 01:03:11,095
Speaker 7: sort of like used under the radar heights and just

1104
01:03:11,615 --> 01:03:15,655
Speaker 7: the standard building practice code for building those various things

1105
01:03:16,015 --> 01:03:20,975
Speaker 7: and didn't really go too hearty on communicating with the

1106
01:03:21,055 --> 01:03:25,295
Speaker 7: council and getting compliance. That are what I did this sometime,

1107
01:03:26,695 --> 01:03:32,375
Speaker 7: putting in shade styles where they were connected to the

1108
01:03:32,455 --> 01:03:36,095
Speaker 7: house and the hole had to be inspected that the

1109
01:03:36,135 --> 01:03:42,335
Speaker 7: pole went in clients I had to deal with. So

1110
01:03:42,775 --> 01:03:44,895
Speaker 7: I've got a new little property, it's four years old

1111
01:03:44,935 --> 01:03:47,575
Speaker 7: at the beach here in New Zealand, and at the

1112
01:03:47,615 --> 01:03:54,055
Speaker 7: back I've got a twelve meter by eight meter bit

1113
01:03:54,095 --> 01:03:59,135
Speaker 7: of grass there which I've excavated down, put in three

1114
01:03:59,175 --> 01:04:02,175
Speaker 7: strips where my little deck is. I put a little

1115
01:04:02,255 --> 01:04:07,015
Speaker 7: deck in and it's three point five meters four point

1116
01:04:07,095 --> 01:04:11,095
Speaker 7: eight meters with fix hundred center on the joist and

1117
01:04:11,255 --> 01:04:16,295
Speaker 7: it's all been braced up, snogged up and uhtle screwed together.

1118
01:04:16,975 --> 01:04:24,455
Speaker 7: I've used the Ka Kads materials that's nice and straight

1119
01:04:24,535 --> 01:04:30,175
Speaker 7: and true, and I play instead of digging. I've not

1120
01:04:30,335 --> 01:04:33,375
Speaker 7: done any digging into the ground. I've placed it on

1121
01:04:33,495 --> 01:04:43,615
Speaker 7: top of top blocks, the little recycled plastic feat have you.

1122
01:04:43,735 --> 01:04:44,855
Speaker 7: Are you familiar with those?

1123
01:04:45,855 --> 01:04:47,215
Speaker 5: I think I have seen them around.

1124
01:04:49,095 --> 01:04:51,175
Speaker 7: I've never done normally. I just put a full or

1125
01:04:51,175 --> 01:04:54,495
Speaker 7: four post and concrete it in right, and even just

1126
01:04:55,415 --> 01:05:00,255
Speaker 7: just attached your yeah choice to that. But I thought

1127
01:05:00,255 --> 01:05:04,255
Speaker 7: I do this because out the back there there is

1128
01:05:06,575 --> 01:05:10,415
Speaker 7: at least one, maybe two soakholes with the concrete lids

1129
01:05:10,575 --> 01:05:13,855
Speaker 7: with the rings, and that's because of the driveway out

1130
01:05:13,935 --> 01:05:16,695
Speaker 7: the back. I'm pretty sure the drainage goes out and

1131
01:05:16,815 --> 01:05:19,975
Speaker 7: into this. I want to leave it all permeable, and

1132
01:05:20,055 --> 01:05:21,855
Speaker 7: I didn't really want to go into the ground and

1133
01:05:21,975 --> 01:05:24,215
Speaker 7: to see everything that's going on there. That is sure

1134
01:05:25,135 --> 01:05:27,695
Speaker 7: that has been complied with the building of the building.

1135
01:05:28,175 --> 01:05:34,135
Speaker 7: So I've got WPC decking on top and that's work.

1136
01:05:34,175 --> 01:05:37,255
Speaker 7: I've never worked with that before either. So that's looking

1137
01:05:37,335 --> 01:05:40,215
Speaker 7: really good and solid and straight and true. My question

1138
01:05:40,375 --> 01:05:44,695
Speaker 7: is three point five by four point eight meter deck

1139
01:05:46,255 --> 01:05:50,575
Speaker 7: that's flat on the ground for one hundred and fifty mils. Obviously,

1140
01:05:50,615 --> 01:05:52,895
Speaker 7: is the height of the material. So that's the height

1141
01:05:52,935 --> 01:05:56,655
Speaker 7: of the deck. Do I need any compliance to that?

1142
01:05:59,175 --> 01:06:01,695
Speaker 5: No, no, you don't in the sense that that sort

1143
01:06:01,695 --> 01:06:03,695
Speaker 5: of work can be done under Shida one of the

1144
01:06:03,695 --> 01:06:06,055
Speaker 5: Building Act, which is the work that can be done

1145
01:06:06,095 --> 01:06:11,975
Speaker 5: with it necessarily requiring a building consent saying that it

1146
01:06:12,015 --> 01:06:15,855
Speaker 5: does need to comply with the Building Code. And I

1147
01:06:15,895 --> 01:06:23,815
Speaker 5: guess what you've created, let's say, is it's not technically

1148
01:06:23,895 --> 01:06:26,495
Speaker 5: within let's say three six o four, right, which is

1149
01:06:26,575 --> 01:06:31,775
Speaker 5: the guidelines for light frame timber construction. You know, if

1150
01:06:31,815 --> 01:06:33,455
Speaker 5: you did do it in accordance with three to six

1151
01:06:33,535 --> 01:06:36,095
Speaker 5: o four, you probably have a hole in the ground

1152
01:06:36,175 --> 01:06:38,575
Speaker 5: with a certain amount of concrete, a post which wouldn't

1153
01:06:38,575 --> 01:06:40,055
Speaker 5: be one hundred by one hundred, it be one hundred

1154
01:06:40,055 --> 01:06:42,455
Speaker 5: and twenty five one hundred and twenty five. You could

1155
01:06:42,455 --> 01:06:45,415
Speaker 5: figure out your spans for your bearers, the span of

1156
01:06:45,455 --> 01:06:48,575
Speaker 5: the joists and so on. So by having let's say

1157
01:06:48,575 --> 01:06:52,095
Speaker 5: concrete pads and these tough blocks and so on and

1158
01:06:52,135 --> 01:06:56,255
Speaker 5: so forth, you would you'd have to get someone to

1159
01:06:56,335 --> 01:06:59,535
Speaker 5: look at it and prove the design. The only way

1160
01:06:59,575 --> 01:07:02,335
Speaker 5: that that would ever be an issue is, you know,

1161
01:07:02,375 --> 01:07:06,415
Speaker 5: because in the you probably haven't exceeded site coverage. It's

1162
01:07:06,455 --> 01:07:10,855
Speaker 5: not obviously particularly high. No one's actually ever going to

1163
01:07:11,135 --> 01:07:12,335
Speaker 5: worry about it, I think.

1164
01:07:12,615 --> 01:07:16,215
Speaker 7: So, yeah, that's that's why I use that material because

1165
01:07:16,215 --> 01:07:19,615
Speaker 7: it's not going into the ground, so it's not permanent permanent,

1166
01:07:19,655 --> 01:07:22,215
Speaker 7: so it's just sitting on top. So I put in

1167
01:07:22,895 --> 01:07:26,895
Speaker 7: one hundreds of milo crush of dust, but and whack,

1168
01:07:27,015 --> 01:07:28,815
Speaker 7: whack it all down and leave it all out, and

1169
01:07:28,855 --> 01:07:32,135
Speaker 7: then got all these tough blocks level, and then I

1170
01:07:32,255 --> 01:07:35,695
Speaker 7: placed the joist into the slot in the tough block,

1171
01:07:36,495 --> 01:07:39,975
Speaker 7: and and then I've put a couple of those kind

1172
01:07:39,975 --> 01:07:42,895
Speaker 7: of like on each corner, I put a one of

1173
01:07:42,935 --> 01:07:46,975
Speaker 7: those things that you screw into the ground, and then

1174
01:07:47,015 --> 01:07:49,655
Speaker 7: your skirt to the framing, just as an extra anchor.

1175
01:07:50,735 --> 01:07:55,655
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that while it sounds like you know

1176
01:07:55,695 --> 01:07:58,215
Speaker 5: what you're doing, so you've you've made a good job

1177
01:07:58,255 --> 01:08:01,575
Speaker 5: of putting it together, it's low risk in the sense

1178
01:08:01,615 --> 01:08:05,655
Speaker 5: that it's so close to the ground and it's demountable.

1179
01:08:05,935 --> 01:08:08,175
Speaker 5: So if you if you needed to adjust it in

1180
01:08:08,175 --> 01:08:09,975
Speaker 5: some way, let's say one of those pads sinks a

1181
01:08:10,015 --> 01:08:12,495
Speaker 5: little bit, or you could just try and lift a

1182
01:08:12,535 --> 01:08:14,655
Speaker 5: couple of decking boards, slide a shim under there, or

1183
01:08:14,695 --> 01:08:18,575
Speaker 5: something like that, So I look, my feeling is that

1184
01:08:18,655 --> 01:08:21,055
Speaker 5: you're probably okay, and I don't know that anyone's ever

1185
01:08:21,095 --> 01:08:23,375
Speaker 5: going to come along and trouble you about it, so

1186
01:08:23,935 --> 01:08:26,055
Speaker 5: I think you'll be fine, mate. Oh, eight hundred eighty

1187
01:08:26,135 --> 01:08:28,335
Speaker 5: ten eighties and to call. We'll talk to Denise straight

1188
01:08:28,375 --> 01:08:30,655
Speaker 5: after the break. We'll take that break right now.

1189
01:08:31,735 --> 01:08:34,535
Speaker 2: Sawdust, Sunshine and solid advice.

1190
01:08:34,815 --> 01:08:38,655
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfcab call eight hundred eighty

1191
01:08:38,695 --> 01:08:40,135
Speaker 1: ten eighty Youth Talk z B.

1192
01:08:41,855 --> 01:08:44,855
Speaker 5: We're talking all things building in construction. Eight hundred eighty

1193
01:08:44,935 --> 01:08:49,095
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. Actually, I'll tell

1194
01:08:49,095 --> 01:08:53,055
Speaker 5: you what a quick text message. Pete, the owner of

1195
01:08:53,135 --> 01:08:57,535
Speaker 5: Harbor Freight Tools, has one hundred and seventeen meter souper

1196
01:08:57,615 --> 01:09:02,535
Speaker 5: yacht that's currently parked up in the coromandle Nick if

1197
01:09:02,575 --> 01:09:04,095
Speaker 5: you just want to say that, I'm going to pop

1198
01:09:04,135 --> 01:09:06,175
Speaker 5: into one of his stores and about I don't know

1199
01:09:06,815 --> 01:09:09,935
Speaker 5: three hours time, and if he could line me up

1200
01:09:09,975 --> 01:09:13,815
Speaker 5: with a good old trading discount, I'd be stoked. He's

1201
01:09:13,815 --> 01:09:15,935
Speaker 5: obviously doing very well. Denise, greetings to.

1202
01:09:15,935 --> 01:09:19,335
Speaker 11: You, good morning, Happy Christmas.

1203
01:09:19,095 --> 01:09:19,895
Speaker 5: Good morning to night.

1204
01:09:19,935 --> 01:09:24,215
Speaker 11: I'm not quite sure whether this is important enough for

1205
01:09:24,295 --> 01:09:29,815
Speaker 11: your show. Sometime back. I heard you mention about neighbors

1206
01:09:29,895 --> 01:09:34,575
Speaker 11: trees blocking views. Yes, that's what I want to talk about.

1207
01:09:34,895 --> 01:09:37,815
Speaker 11: I have a house opposite me that used to belong

1208
01:09:37,895 --> 01:09:42,615
Speaker 11: to me, actually, and it's the people in it haven't

1209
01:09:42,735 --> 01:09:46,175
Speaker 11: said to me what. It's a young man and he's

1210
01:09:46,415 --> 01:09:49,055
Speaker 11: gone somewhere at the house has been empty for about

1211
01:09:49,055 --> 01:09:53,335
Speaker 11: three months. And I'd like the tops of some trees

1212
01:09:53,415 --> 01:09:57,935
Speaker 11: trim that blocked my ocean view. And I've asked him.

1213
01:09:58,135 --> 01:10:00,855
Speaker 11: He said he'd have to ask his wife. Then I

1214
01:10:01,055 --> 01:10:04,255
Speaker 11: asked the real estate that was handling it. It's not

1215
01:10:04,295 --> 01:10:07,855
Speaker 11: on the mark at the moment. They said they didn't

1216
01:10:07,935 --> 01:10:11,335
Speaker 11: n for anything. And then I asked the mother who

1217
01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:14,615
Speaker 11: said she was handling everything. And then there was a

1218
01:10:14,655 --> 01:10:18,535
Speaker 11: guy there yesterday and asked again. I offered to have

1219
01:10:18,575 --> 01:10:23,575
Speaker 11: a professionally dale. And it's a lot of trees. It's

1220
01:10:23,615 --> 01:10:25,495
Speaker 11: at the back of the like it's as you enter

1221
01:10:25,535 --> 01:10:28,975
Speaker 11: the house as a very big, big driveway. Once you're

1222
01:10:29,015 --> 01:10:32,375
Speaker 11: in the house, you don't look back this way so visibly.

1223
01:10:32,495 --> 01:10:35,455
Speaker 11: It really doesn't matter to them. And when I was

1224
01:10:35,455 --> 01:10:37,535
Speaker 11: in there, I chopped one side because it was in

1225
01:10:37,575 --> 01:10:40,255
Speaker 11: the neighbors gato. I chopped it out side because it

1226
01:10:40,375 --> 01:10:43,335
Speaker 11: was the sun down the bottom the fig tree.

1227
01:10:43,095 --> 01:10:43,935
Speaker 5: Was annoying them.

1228
01:10:44,655 --> 01:10:49,055
Speaker 11: There's one more, but anyway, it doesn't affect you. You

1229
01:10:49,295 --> 01:10:52,455
Speaker 11: just in the house. You do it properly. And I'm

1230
01:10:52,495 --> 01:10:56,935
Speaker 11: wondering what I could do next. Do I have any comeback?

1231
01:10:58,815 --> 01:11:01,975
Speaker 5: Well, I guess you can't do anything without the landowners

1232
01:11:02,055 --> 01:11:05,655
Speaker 5: or the property owners permission, and while you've made inquiries,

1233
01:11:05,695 --> 01:11:08,615
Speaker 5: you haven't receive that permission yet, so I've got hold

1234
01:11:08,655 --> 01:11:12,095
Speaker 5: of But at the same time, you know, I mean,

1235
01:11:12,335 --> 01:11:14,855
Speaker 5: you sound like the perfect neighbor. If you're prepared to

1236
01:11:14,935 --> 01:11:18,295
Speaker 5: do it and at your own expense and having professionals

1237
01:11:18,295 --> 01:11:20,255
Speaker 5: come in and do the work. You know, there's no

1238
01:11:20,335 --> 01:11:23,015
Speaker 5: real downside for the neighbor. It's just getting the consult

1239
01:11:23,135 --> 01:11:26,695
Speaker 5: from them. So I think if you can get the

1240
01:11:26,695 --> 01:11:30,055
Speaker 5: consent get the work done, it's great. Otherwise, as my understanding,

1241
01:11:30,055 --> 01:11:33,255
Speaker 5: as there are provisions within the Property Act for you

1242
01:11:33,335 --> 01:11:37,095
Speaker 5: to make an application and to have it enforced, but

1243
01:11:37,735 --> 01:11:40,695
Speaker 5: it just sounds like no one's prepared to say yes

1244
01:11:40,975 --> 01:11:43,375
Speaker 5: when they're quite likely that they would say yes.

1245
01:11:44,935 --> 01:11:48,495
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's a very wealthy young man and I don't

1246
01:11:48,495 --> 01:11:52,455
Speaker 11: even know where he will and he had it on

1247
01:11:52,495 --> 01:11:55,495
Speaker 11: the market didn't sell. Whether or not he blames me

1248
01:11:55,615 --> 01:11:59,295
Speaker 11: for that, I don't know. I stopped to him, but

1249
01:11:59,895 --> 01:12:04,175
Speaker 11: you don't know if there's any recourse nothing.

1250
01:12:06,295 --> 01:12:07,895
Speaker 5: I think it's just it's going to come down to

1251
01:12:08,095 --> 01:12:11,455
Speaker 5: if you can try and persevere with contacting the owner

1252
01:12:12,295 --> 01:12:14,375
Speaker 5: and as soon as they say yep, hey, look go

1253
01:12:14,935 --> 01:12:17,735
Speaker 5: for it, you know, will agree on a whole tool,

1254
01:12:17,775 --> 01:12:20,335
Speaker 5: will agree on an extent of the work, get a

1255
01:12:20,335 --> 01:12:23,735
Speaker 5: professional arborist to come and do the work that would

1256
01:12:24,215 --> 01:12:27,935
Speaker 5: keep the owner happy. I think you're on the right track.

1257
01:12:27,975 --> 01:12:29,095
Speaker 5: It's just getting that consent.

1258
01:12:30,095 --> 01:12:31,895
Speaker 11: I know. I did bring them and start at my

1259
01:12:31,975 --> 01:12:36,015
Speaker 11: house to show him which ones, and he said had

1260
01:12:36,055 --> 01:12:37,535
Speaker 11: a look, and he said his wife would be a

1261
01:12:37,615 --> 01:12:42,295
Speaker 11: grief He didn't include her. So then I never heard again.

1262
01:12:43,375 --> 01:12:45,815
Speaker 11: The mother said he would handling. It's never heard again.

1263
01:12:46,615 --> 01:12:48,815
Speaker 11: So I've just stuck by it.

1264
01:12:48,975 --> 01:12:52,295
Speaker 5: I think it's just perseverance. Unfortunately, there's stage niece, but

1265
01:12:52,375 --> 01:12:54,135
Speaker 5: it does sound like you're on the right track with it,

1266
01:12:54,175 --> 01:12:56,455
Speaker 5: and it sounds like the neighbors at least open to

1267
01:12:57,255 --> 01:13:00,735
Speaker 5: having that discussion with you. So good luck with that.

1268
01:13:00,935 --> 01:13:04,375
Speaker 5: All the very best to you, Pete. The greetings and

1269
01:13:04,975 --> 01:13:05,975
Speaker 5: how can I help.

1270
01:13:06,855 --> 01:13:09,295
Speaker 14: You know, I speak to you about three weeks ago

1271
01:13:09,455 --> 01:13:14,335
Speaker 14: that regarding this prolific cleanting on this house, and I've done.

1272
01:13:14,215 --> 01:13:15,535
Speaker 5: All my clean again.

1273
01:13:15,655 --> 01:13:19,375
Speaker 10: Just say that again, that modific cleanting stuff.

1274
01:13:20,455 --> 01:13:26,255
Speaker 14: Monelis, Yeah, that stuff, and they had an open home there,

1275
01:13:26,295 --> 01:13:28,055
Speaker 14: and I haven't been back on the site obviously because

1276
01:13:28,055 --> 01:13:30,295
Speaker 14: it's not an open home there anymore. I'm still going

1277
01:13:30,335 --> 01:13:32,815
Speaker 14: through the process of the banks and that get the

1278
01:13:32,895 --> 01:13:38,415
Speaker 14: approval for the It hasn't gone through. But I'm not

1279
01:13:38,575 --> 01:13:41,335
Speaker 14: too sure that Scott there, because I can't have him

1280
01:13:41,335 --> 01:13:43,775
Speaker 14: back on the site. I'm not too sure with the

1281
01:13:43,775 --> 01:13:47,455
Speaker 14: Scott the cavity or not the cavity. Would you touch

1282
01:13:47,495 --> 01:13:49,575
Speaker 14: a place with that stuff on it hasn't got the

1283
01:13:49,615 --> 01:13:53,175
Speaker 14: cavity on it.

1284
01:13:53,175 --> 01:13:56,615
Speaker 5: It's not a use or no answer, unfortunately, you know,

1285
01:13:56,735 --> 01:13:59,455
Speaker 5: depending on the type of clouding, depending on how it appears,

1286
01:13:59,495 --> 01:14:03,735
Speaker 5: and so on. In terms of figuring out whether it's

1287
01:14:03,735 --> 01:14:06,535
Speaker 5: got a cavity. The easiest thing to do, if you

1288
01:14:06,615 --> 01:14:09,255
Speaker 5: happen to be in the area and you're entitled to

1289
01:14:09,255 --> 01:14:12,135
Speaker 5: go onto the property is you just go and look

1290
01:14:12,175 --> 01:14:14,295
Speaker 5: at the bottom of the cladding, and if you can't

1291
01:14:14,335 --> 01:14:16,495
Speaker 5: get down there, I just use my phone and take

1292
01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:19,855
Speaker 5: a photograph shooting sort of back up and that will

1293
01:14:19,855 --> 01:14:22,335
Speaker 5: give you an idea. And if what you see behind

1294
01:14:22,375 --> 01:14:26,695
Speaker 5: the cladding is like a white PVC strip with a

1295
01:14:26,735 --> 01:14:29,535
Speaker 5: whole series of slots in it, their little drainage ventilation

1296
01:14:29,655 --> 01:14:32,255
Speaker 5: holes in it, and you can sort of get your

1297
01:14:32,255 --> 01:14:35,055
Speaker 5: hand up there and feel it. So if the cladding

1298
01:14:35,135 --> 01:14:40,575
Speaker 5: is let's say hard against the block or concrete slab floor,

1299
01:14:41,015 --> 01:14:43,735
Speaker 5: then chances are it doesn't have a cavity. But if

1300
01:14:43,775 --> 01:14:45,615
Speaker 5: there's a bit of a gap, and if you take

1301
01:14:45,655 --> 01:14:48,055
Speaker 5: a photograph and you can see the cavity closer there,

1302
01:14:48,455 --> 01:14:52,855
Speaker 5: then you'll know that it's a cavity. I guess the

1303
01:14:52,895 --> 01:14:55,735
Speaker 5: benefit of the cavity and the reason that we introduce

1304
01:14:55,815 --> 01:14:58,655
Speaker 5: them into the Building Act is that in the event

1305
01:14:58,695 --> 01:15:01,415
Speaker 5: that the cladding itself leaks, And there was a lot

1306
01:15:01,415 --> 01:15:05,575
Speaker 5: of discussion and people were saying things like, all claddings leak, right,

1307
01:15:05,655 --> 01:15:09,735
Speaker 5: So that's why we're going to provide the opportunity for drainage.

1308
01:15:09,975 --> 01:15:13,895
Speaker 5: So if water gets through the exterior cladding, it can

1309
01:15:13,935 --> 01:15:18,015
Speaker 5: then drain down the cavity. And also because there's ventilation

1310
01:15:18,175 --> 01:15:22,055
Speaker 5: in that space, it allows drying to occur as well.

1311
01:15:22,175 --> 01:15:25,015
Speaker 5: So that's the point of the cavity. And it also

1312
01:15:25,095 --> 01:15:28,175
Speaker 5: gives you, I guess, a bit of time where you

1313
01:15:28,295 --> 01:15:31,335
Speaker 5: might notice that the cladding's in poor repair and that

1314
01:15:31,535 --> 01:15:36,575
Speaker 5: water might be getting through the cladding and rather than

1315
01:15:36,615 --> 01:15:39,975
Speaker 5: it going directly onto the timber framing and causing rotten

1316
01:15:40,015 --> 01:15:42,695
Speaker 5: decay and so on, it gives you a bit of

1317
01:15:42,775 --> 01:15:48,175
Speaker 5: time as well. So, yeah, if it's got cavity, i'd

1318
01:15:48,255 --> 01:15:52,055
Speaker 5: be without signing off on the building, without seeing it,

1319
01:15:52,055 --> 01:15:54,615
Speaker 5: I'd be a lot more confident about saying, hey, it's

1320
01:15:54,655 --> 01:15:59,055
Speaker 5: worth considering the building. Without a cavity, it's a whole

1321
01:15:59,655 --> 01:16:01,975
Speaker 5: different set of risk that you're taking on.

1322
01:16:03,375 --> 01:16:08,535
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, got to study on it. And even

1323
01:16:08,575 --> 01:16:11,135
Speaker 14: now that I'm going for the bank approval and I'm

1324
01:16:11,175 --> 01:16:13,335
Speaker 14: seemi attached to it because I know the history of

1325
01:16:13,335 --> 01:16:16,455
Speaker 14: it was my mum's place, and I was happy the

1326
01:16:16,495 --> 01:16:18,615
Speaker 14: way they did it. They put that bass on, they

1327
01:16:18,655 --> 01:16:21,135
Speaker 14: put that building paper, they white building paper. I was

1328
01:16:21,135 --> 01:16:23,295
Speaker 14: happy to the prices when they did it. I was

1329
01:16:23,335 --> 01:16:25,495
Speaker 14: quite to be honest, I wouldn't the street, but I

1330
01:16:25,495 --> 01:16:26,895
Speaker 14: don't think I would have got head and did it.

1331
01:16:26,975 --> 01:16:27,375
Speaker 13: I wasn't.

1332
01:16:27,935 --> 01:16:29,455
Speaker 14: I didn't like the process. I was happy with the

1333
01:16:29,455 --> 01:16:31,615
Speaker 14: process and they did it. So, but it's just above

1334
01:16:31,655 --> 01:16:35,975
Speaker 14: those windows, above the the early windows and the top

1335
01:16:36,015 --> 01:16:37,695
Speaker 14: of his feet. You've got about three in the mill gap.

1336
01:16:37,935 --> 01:16:41,335
Speaker 14: It's only developed the cracks in that area. So I've

1337
01:16:41,335 --> 01:16:43,335
Speaker 14: spoken to a guy here and you plumb about it.

1338
01:16:43,415 --> 01:16:45,815
Speaker 14: He does the repair on them. If so, we do

1339
01:16:45,895 --> 01:16:50,375
Speaker 14: that thermal test on the moisture test on it, he said,

1340
01:16:50,495 --> 01:16:53,655
Speaker 14: But I see, But he said he didn't know how

1341
01:16:53,735 --> 01:16:56,495
Speaker 14: much that sort of costs he's got. He's been on

1342
01:16:56,495 --> 01:16:59,375
Speaker 14: the side either obviously, but they can't at present time.

1343
01:16:59,855 --> 01:17:02,655
Speaker 14: And he said it can be and can't be fasially

1344
01:17:02,655 --> 01:17:04,655
Speaker 14: go to do those set things. I just said, but

1345
01:17:04,775 --> 01:17:06,895
Speaker 14: he said, that's three pair of what you actually give

1346
01:17:06,895 --> 01:17:08,215
Speaker 14: me a quote and do we go on the site

1347
01:17:08,215 --> 01:17:11,655
Speaker 14: and never look at it. So basically, if it's just

1348
01:17:11,695 --> 01:17:14,855
Speaker 14: those spots above the window, right between the every windows

1349
01:17:14,895 --> 01:17:19,815
Speaker 14: and place, not a problem. But I'm just asking whether

1350
01:17:19,855 --> 01:17:21,495
Speaker 14: would you would you touch one or not if it

1351
01:17:21,615 --> 01:17:25,775
Speaker 14: never cavity on it? Would you.

1352
01:17:26,735 --> 01:17:27,175
Speaker 10: Emotional?

1353
01:17:29,255 --> 01:17:34,215
Speaker 5: I think unfortunately, Peter, the answer is not as straightforward

1354
01:17:34,215 --> 01:17:36,975
Speaker 5: as that. And so I'm you know, without seeing it,

1355
01:17:37,015 --> 01:17:39,935
Speaker 5: without understanding the building, without getting a sense of it,

1356
01:17:40,855 --> 01:17:43,455
Speaker 5: I'm not going to give you an answer on that.

1357
01:17:43,935 --> 01:17:46,935
Speaker 5: I think it is fair to an encounter to that.

1358
01:17:47,815 --> 01:17:50,135
Speaker 5: I've never been of the opinion for as long as

1359
01:17:50,135 --> 01:17:52,655
Speaker 5: this has been sort of a topical issue in terms

1360
01:17:52,655 --> 01:17:55,815
Speaker 5: of model ethic clouding to say that all buildings built

1361
01:17:55,975 --> 01:17:59,095
Speaker 5: in that style are going to be a problem. I

1362
01:17:59,135 --> 01:18:02,415
Speaker 5: think there's there's good reason to know that, or to

1363
01:18:02,895 --> 01:18:08,535
Speaker 5: be cautious, but also thorough investigation, individual buildings will perform

1364
01:18:08,655 --> 01:18:11,895
Speaker 5: slightly differently and will be more robust, and that might

1365
01:18:11,975 --> 01:18:15,015
Speaker 5: come down to the skill of the builder or the

1366
01:18:15,055 --> 01:18:17,615
Speaker 5: type of architecture and those sorts of things. So look,

1367
01:18:17,695 --> 01:18:21,375
Speaker 5: I wouldn't discount it, but unfortunately, without seeing it, I'm

1368
01:18:21,415 --> 01:18:24,455
Speaker 5: also not in a position to give you an answer

1369
01:18:24,615 --> 01:18:27,175
Speaker 5: of such a definitive nature. But good on you, and

1370
01:18:27,215 --> 01:18:29,655
Speaker 5: it sounds like you're doing your due diligence as well.

1371
01:18:30,255 --> 01:18:32,855
Speaker 5: All the very best to your peek. Eight hundred eighty

1372
01:18:32,935 --> 01:18:36,135
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. We'll take a

1373
01:18:36,135 --> 01:18:37,935
Speaker 5: break and come back with a couple of comments straight

1374
01:18:37,935 --> 01:18:40,935
Speaker 5: after that text Grade ninety two ninety two well gives

1375
01:18:40,975 --> 01:18:44,575
Speaker 5: a call eight hundred eighty ten eighty back after the break.

1376
01:18:45,295 --> 01:18:50,095
Speaker 1: Sorting those summerffixes before the barbecue crowd arrives. The resident

1377
01:18:50,135 --> 01:18:53,455
Speaker 1: builder with Peter wolfcab. Call oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1378
01:18:53,495 --> 01:18:54,935
Speaker 1: eighty youth talks that be.

1379
01:18:56,815 --> 01:19:01,735
Speaker 5: You and news talks that'd be And it's interesting, something's

1380
01:19:01,775 --> 01:19:04,255
Speaker 5: gone completely different on the screen. But not to worry,

1381
01:19:04,295 --> 01:19:07,655
Speaker 5: we'll sort that out. Eight hundred eight eighty is the

1382
01:19:07,935 --> 01:19:16,255
Speaker 5: number to call, right, Yes, this is rather confusing. I've

1383
01:19:17,095 --> 01:19:20,215
Speaker 5: something's changed on my screen. Not to worry. Someone takes

1384
01:19:20,255 --> 01:19:24,415
Speaker 5: through and said, look, I made the comment about some

1385
01:19:24,495 --> 01:19:28,295
Speaker 5: of the towns that we were sort of driving through

1386
01:19:28,695 --> 01:19:34,215
Speaker 5: and mooching around have quite extensive new bills happening in

1387
01:19:34,535 --> 01:19:37,815
Speaker 5: the surrounding area, and I was struck by the fact

1388
01:19:37,855 --> 01:19:40,655
Speaker 5: this is back in the UK, just north of London,

1389
01:19:42,335 --> 01:19:45,255
Speaker 5: in an area actually not too far from Milton Keynes,

1390
01:19:45,415 --> 01:19:50,415
Speaker 5: funnily enough, which is a planned city of from the

1391
01:19:50,495 --> 01:19:54,495
Speaker 5: nineteen fifties. People have very strong opinions about it, but

1392
01:19:54,575 --> 01:19:57,295
Speaker 5: who was fascinating to go through it? Either way. We

1393
01:19:58,535 --> 01:20:01,175
Speaker 5: were looking around that area and I was struck by

1394
01:20:01,175 --> 01:20:04,375
Speaker 5: the subdivisions that were going up. These are from large

1395
01:20:04,375 --> 01:20:07,695
Speaker 5: group home builders who are literally building tens of thousands

1396
01:20:07,775 --> 01:20:12,895
Speaker 5: of houses a year, that they were very very similar

1397
01:20:12,935 --> 01:20:16,095
Speaker 5: and they were what I would say, in traditional architecture,

1398
01:20:16,415 --> 01:20:22,655
Speaker 5: relatively simple straight sizes, so rectangular, two story, some were

1399
01:20:22,735 --> 01:20:27,335
Speaker 5: three stories, some would detached, some were semi detached, often

1400
01:20:27,375 --> 01:20:30,855
Speaker 5: with really simple rooflines, brick cladding. Basically the whole thing

1401
01:20:30,935 --> 01:20:33,695
Speaker 5: was brick, simple joinery and so on. And someone has

1402
01:20:33,735 --> 01:20:37,135
Speaker 5: texted through to say, all, yeah, that's how you get economy, right,

1403
01:20:38,015 --> 01:20:43,215
Speaker 5: use the same materials over and over again, similar designs,

1404
01:20:43,695 --> 01:20:48,015
Speaker 5: really straightforward designs, not lots of complex junctions and flashings

1405
01:20:48,255 --> 01:20:50,575
Speaker 5: and all the rest of it. That's how it works,

1406
01:20:50,615 --> 01:20:53,615
Speaker 5: and that's how you get affordability. Now, I don't think

1407
01:20:53,615 --> 01:20:55,895
Speaker 5: that we're building at ten thousand dollars a square meter

1408
01:20:56,055 --> 01:20:58,695
Speaker 5: in New Zealand for affordable housing. Certainly, I know that

1409
01:20:58,735 --> 01:21:01,735
Speaker 5: some people are spending that amount, but that's not that common,

1410
01:21:01,775 --> 01:21:04,615
Speaker 5: i'd have to say. But what I did, what I

1411
01:21:04,695 --> 01:21:07,295
Speaker 5: found was fascinating. On occasion, I was out with my

1412
01:21:07,375 --> 01:21:10,415
Speaker 5: mate and we stopped by a decent size, you know,

1413
01:21:10,415 --> 01:21:13,615
Speaker 5: at one of the big barn hardware stores, and had

1414
01:21:13,655 --> 01:21:15,735
Speaker 5: a bit of a mooch around, looked at tools, some

1415
01:21:15,775 --> 01:21:18,735
Speaker 5: of which I recognized brands you recognize that sort of thing,

1416
01:21:19,655 --> 01:21:22,295
Speaker 5: but also towards the back of the shop. You could

1417
01:21:22,295 --> 01:21:25,455
Speaker 5: buy windows off the shelf. So there was a window

1418
01:21:25,495 --> 01:21:27,975
Speaker 5: frame and it had the double glazing in it, and

1419
01:21:28,015 --> 01:21:31,015
Speaker 5: there were a series of standard sizes and you could

1420
01:21:31,055 --> 01:21:33,975
Speaker 5: literally just rock in there, pick them up, put them

1421
01:21:33,975 --> 01:21:35,615
Speaker 5: in the back of the van and drive off to

1422
01:21:35,655 --> 01:21:38,975
Speaker 5: the building site. That's worth considering here. I think that's

1423
01:21:39,015 --> 01:21:41,135
Speaker 5: where we probably need to go. The other thing that

1424
01:21:41,295 --> 01:21:43,535
Speaker 5: was fascinating is looking at the insulation that you could

1425
01:21:43,535 --> 01:21:46,415
Speaker 5: buy in some of the polystyrene sheets that are not

1426
01:21:46,735 --> 01:21:49,295
Speaker 5: that readily available in New Zealand. Too big to put

1427
01:21:49,295 --> 01:21:52,015
Speaker 5: in a suitcase and bring home, but very very tempted. Right,

1428
01:21:52,055 --> 01:21:53,815
Speaker 5: we've got new sport and we're the top of the art.

1429
01:21:53,855 --> 01:21:57,215
Speaker 5: We're back after eight o'clock. Remember Red Climb passed from

1430
01:21:57,215 --> 01:21:58,055
Speaker 5: May thirty.

1431
01:21:58,575 --> 01:22:00,975
Speaker 2: From summer backyard jobs to big rednos.

1432
01:22:01,055 --> 01:22:03,655
Speaker 1: Let's talk it through call oh eight hundred and eighty

1433
01:22:03,695 --> 01:22:09,495
Speaker 1: ten eighty the resident building where Peterwolf News Talks, News

1434
01:22:09,535 --> 01:22:09,975
Speaker 1: Talks b.

1435
01:22:10,175 --> 01:22:13,055
Speaker 5: We're we're on the road, bringing the show from LA

1436
01:22:13,135 --> 01:22:16,455
Speaker 5: as it happens actually and back in the studio next week.

1437
01:22:16,535 --> 01:22:20,135
Speaker 5: So let's talk building, all things construction and building. And

1438
01:22:20,495 --> 01:22:23,095
Speaker 5: it has been a great opportunity. Actually I mentioned just

1439
01:22:23,175 --> 01:22:26,255
Speaker 5: for the news like going to a large hardware store

1440
01:22:26,255 --> 01:22:29,495
Speaker 5: Builders Merchant really is probably a better way of describing it,

1441
01:22:30,335 --> 01:22:34,175
Speaker 5: just north of London, and finding there that you could

1442
01:22:34,215 --> 01:22:38,975
Speaker 5: buy basically standard size windows in a UPBC frame with

1443
01:22:39,135 --> 01:22:42,415
Speaker 5: the double glazing literally off the shelf and off to

1444
01:22:42,495 --> 01:22:47,535
Speaker 5: the building site. And also in the same store installation

1445
01:22:47,735 --> 01:22:53,015
Speaker 5: you know the dense polystyring pr board that is around

1446
01:22:53,055 --> 01:22:56,575
Speaker 5: in New Zealand but not sort of readily available, so

1447
01:22:56,735 --> 01:22:59,935
Speaker 5: finding that they're some for underlay, some for roof areas,

1448
01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:02,375
Speaker 5: some for wall areas, that sort of thing, fascinating to

1449
01:23:02,455 --> 01:23:06,175
Speaker 5: see them there. And staying in a house that was

1450
01:23:06,815 --> 01:23:10,575
Speaker 5: I guess by New Zealand standards, high performance, good double glazing,

1451
01:23:10,695 --> 01:23:18,375
Speaker 5: good joinery, well insulated, well heated, reasonably air tight, had

1452
01:23:18,415 --> 01:23:22,135
Speaker 5: a heat recovery ventilation system installed in it, so lots

1453
01:23:22,175 --> 01:23:25,975
Speaker 5: of really nice, fresh filtered air, despite the fact that

1454
01:23:26,015 --> 01:23:29,535
Speaker 5: because it was one degree outside you needed to keep

1455
01:23:29,575 --> 01:23:31,655
Speaker 5: the doors and windows closed and certainly when you open

1456
01:23:31,695 --> 01:23:34,335
Speaker 5: them up you felt it. But being able to wander

1457
01:23:34,335 --> 01:23:38,135
Speaker 5: around pretty much in jeans and a T shirt and

1458
01:23:38,255 --> 01:23:42,455
Speaker 5: those sorts of conditions and not eye wateringly expensive to

1459
01:23:43,175 --> 01:23:46,135
Speaker 5: heat as well, so been an interesting insight into how

1460
01:23:46,135 --> 01:23:48,335
Speaker 5: they do it in different parts of the world. Righty oh,

1461
01:23:48,375 --> 01:23:50,895
Speaker 5: we've got root at eight thirty, but right now we're

1462
01:23:50,935 --> 01:23:55,215
Speaker 5: going to talk to Alan. A very good morning winding peak.

1463
01:23:56,695 --> 01:23:57,495
Speaker 7: The end of the season.

1464
01:23:57,935 --> 01:24:02,015
Speaker 15: Yeah, look, I'm here in Orkland. Yeah, I'm here in Orkland,

1465
01:24:02,215 --> 01:24:06,815
Speaker 15: and we've had some few weeks of some very warm weather.

1466
01:24:07,375 --> 01:24:08,695
Speaker 11: I have a I.

1467
01:24:08,655 --> 01:24:13,655
Speaker 15: Live in a two level townhouse that has a pitched,

1468
01:24:14,135 --> 01:24:18,255
Speaker 15: long run iron roof. I have insulated the ceiling in

1469
01:24:18,295 --> 01:24:20,335
Speaker 15: the in the attic, you can actually stand up in

1470
01:24:20,375 --> 01:24:20,775
Speaker 15: the attic.

1471
01:24:20,975 --> 01:24:21,775
Speaker 7: So I've got up.

1472
01:24:21,655 --> 01:24:25,655
Speaker 15: There and insulated it and that made a little bit

1473
01:24:25,655 --> 01:24:27,895
Speaker 15: of an impact. But in the over the summer months

1474
01:24:28,015 --> 01:24:32,495
Speaker 15: that that area gets incredibly warm, and as I got

1475
01:24:32,535 --> 01:24:36,695
Speaker 15: the stairs, obviously the temperature in the in the townhouse

1476
01:24:37,375 --> 01:24:42,135
Speaker 15: increases considerably and it's quite uncomfortable at night because of

1477
01:24:42,135 --> 01:24:46,895
Speaker 15: the So what would be the best practice what to

1478
01:24:47,055 --> 01:24:52,295
Speaker 15: ventilate the attic area. That's that's my question to you

1479
01:24:52,415 --> 01:24:52,935
Speaker 15: this morning.

1480
01:24:53,655 --> 01:24:58,615
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this has become a real topic of discussion,

1481
01:24:58,695 --> 01:25:02,015
Speaker 5: and there was a whole lot of articles earlier in

1482
01:25:02,055 --> 01:25:05,415
Speaker 5: the year about people who were moving into new three

1483
01:25:05,495 --> 01:25:09,015
Speaker 5: story townhouse, let's say, in a brand new development and

1484
01:25:09,095 --> 01:25:13,095
Speaker 5: finding that the third story bedroom was like almost forty

1485
01:25:13,095 --> 01:25:16,455
Speaker 5: degrees when they came home at the end of the day.

1486
01:25:17,815 --> 01:25:19,815
Speaker 5: It won't just be one thing, There'll be a combination

1487
01:25:19,895 --> 01:25:22,015
Speaker 5: of things. So one of the things that I think

1488
01:25:22,055 --> 01:25:26,015
Speaker 5: we don't do particularly well is think about shading. That

1489
01:25:26,375 --> 01:25:29,695
Speaker 5: often we design without any consideration as to where the

1490
01:25:29,735 --> 01:25:33,095
Speaker 5: sun is at different times of the year, and so

1491
01:25:33,215 --> 01:25:36,215
Speaker 5: the optimum that we want is that we get passive

1492
01:25:36,215 --> 01:25:38,935
Speaker 5: soul again in winter when we want our houses to

1493
01:25:38,975 --> 01:25:42,255
Speaker 5: be warmer, but at the same time, that exact same window,

1494
01:25:42,455 --> 01:25:45,695
Speaker 5: if it's got some shading to it, or if it's

1495
01:25:45,735 --> 01:25:48,575
Speaker 5: of a certain size and so on, will mean that

1496
01:25:48,655 --> 01:25:52,615
Speaker 5: it's shaded during the summer months. But we not that

1497
01:25:52,775 --> 01:25:55,735
Speaker 5: many people designing houses think about that. It's growing, which

1498
01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:58,815
Speaker 5: is awesome, So shading is a part of it. Ventilating

1499
01:25:58,855 --> 01:26:02,495
Speaker 5: that roof space. I know exactly what you're thinking, and

1500
01:26:02,935 --> 01:26:05,935
Speaker 5: I'm probably going to do it this summer as well.

1501
01:26:06,495 --> 01:26:09,775
Speaker 5: Thing at our place, we've got an set of attic

1502
01:26:09,855 --> 01:26:12,095
Speaker 5: stairs so I can get up into the roof space.

1503
01:26:12,895 --> 01:26:15,655
Speaker 5: I know that on a really warm Auckland day, it's

1504
01:26:15,695 --> 01:26:19,815
Speaker 5: going to be forty forty five degrees in that roof space.

1505
01:26:20,215 --> 01:26:23,335
Speaker 5: So the insulation that I've added to the ceiling is

1506
01:26:23,415 --> 01:26:27,335
Speaker 5: then working to try and stop that heat transferring down

1507
01:26:27,535 --> 01:26:30,815
Speaker 5: inside the house. So you know, typically we think about

1508
01:26:30,895 --> 01:26:33,535
Speaker 5: ceiling insulation, I want to keep the rooms warm, I

1509
01:26:33,575 --> 01:26:36,895
Speaker 5: want to stop that escaping to the outside, So it's

1510
01:26:37,095 --> 01:26:40,015
Speaker 5: working that way. Insulation works both ways. So in summertime,

1511
01:26:40,535 --> 01:26:43,935
Speaker 5: it's working to try and stop that forty degrees getting

1512
01:26:43,935 --> 01:26:46,415
Speaker 5: inside my house where I'd like to stay at maybe

1513
01:26:46,455 --> 01:26:50,015
Speaker 5: twenty two twenty three degrees. One of the things that

1514
01:26:50,095 --> 01:26:53,695
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about doing is actually installing a roof vent,

1515
01:26:53,815 --> 01:26:56,615
Speaker 5: you know, one of those sort of swirly ones, right,

1516
01:26:56,655 --> 01:26:59,295
Speaker 5: so it's got a vent, the wind catches it and

1517
01:26:59,335 --> 01:27:03,975
Speaker 5: it will actively extract. Then I'm probably going to go

1518
01:27:04,015 --> 01:27:07,095
Speaker 5: one step further install one of those, but also install

1519
01:27:07,175 --> 01:27:10,415
Speaker 5: it with like a trapdoor on it, so that in winter,

1520
01:27:10,575 --> 01:27:13,255
Speaker 5: when I don't mind having that heat, I want the

1521
01:27:13,255 --> 01:27:15,935
Speaker 5: benefit of that roof space warming up because it's going

1522
01:27:15,975 --> 01:27:19,015
Speaker 5: to help keep the house warm. I'll put like a

1523
01:27:19,095 --> 01:27:22,495
Speaker 5: panel or a trapdoor on it. Effectively, that will allow

1524
01:27:22,535 --> 01:27:25,455
Speaker 5: me to close that off. But in summer time, like

1525
01:27:25,575 --> 01:27:28,495
Speaker 5: right now, it will be there and it will be

1526
01:27:28,615 --> 01:27:32,695
Speaker 5: helping to extract and ventilate that space. So that's one

1527
01:27:32,735 --> 01:27:36,295
Speaker 5: option for you. The other thing is that I think

1528
01:27:36,375 --> 01:27:39,535
Speaker 5: sometimes if we know that our houses are overheating, we

1529
01:27:39,695 --> 01:27:42,055
Speaker 5: just need to pull the curtains earlier. Now it's not

1530
01:27:42,095 --> 01:27:45,175
Speaker 5: as effective as having shading on the outside of the building.

1531
01:27:45,255 --> 01:27:49,375
Speaker 5: So again think about you know, southern France, Italy, Portugal,

1532
01:27:49,495 --> 01:27:51,255
Speaker 5: grease and that sort of thing. What do you see

1533
01:27:51,255 --> 01:27:54,455
Speaker 5: on houses? You see shutters on the outside. So when

1534
01:27:54,455 --> 01:27:56,895
Speaker 5: it gets when the sun comes around and it's starting

1535
01:27:56,895 --> 01:27:59,575
Speaker 5: to get warm, you can leave the window open, close

1536
01:27:59,615 --> 01:28:04,055
Speaker 5: the shutters. That provides ventilation, but it also provides shading.

1537
01:28:04,255 --> 01:28:07,975
Speaker 5: The shutters do the shading. You know, we don't see

1538
01:28:07,975 --> 01:28:10,055
Speaker 5: in any houses in New Zealand with shutters, but I

1539
01:28:10,055 --> 01:28:13,135
Speaker 5: actually think that, you know, going forward, you might see

1540
01:28:13,215 --> 01:28:15,935
Speaker 5: reintroduction of shutters or modern shutters. And I saw some

1541
01:28:16,055 --> 01:28:20,455
Speaker 5: joinery the other day that actually had a louver or

1542
01:28:20,855 --> 01:28:24,815
Speaker 5: a screen built into the joinery. So when it gets

1543
01:28:24,895 --> 01:28:27,415
Speaker 5: really hot in the summer, you just roll the screen

1544
01:28:27,455 --> 01:28:29,615
Speaker 5: down and it's on the outside, which makes it more

1545
01:28:29,615 --> 01:28:33,535
Speaker 5: effective than drawing the curtains on inside. But drawing the curtains,

1546
01:28:33,575 --> 01:28:36,095
Speaker 5: having some blinds that sort of thing, reducing the amount

1547
01:28:36,095 --> 01:28:39,215
Speaker 5: of soul again in your upstairs areas, and that there's

1548
01:28:39,375 --> 01:28:42,655
Speaker 5: west facing areas that will make a difference as well.

1549
01:28:44,135 --> 01:28:45,095
Speaker 10: Yes, thanks babe.

1550
01:28:46,055 --> 01:28:48,735
Speaker 5: So's it's a range of things, and it's you know,

1551
01:28:48,855 --> 01:28:51,535
Speaker 5: the reason that there's so many solutions is because it's

1552
01:28:51,575 --> 01:28:56,255
Speaker 5: not always a straightforward These are complex issues and so

1553
01:28:56,415 --> 01:28:59,935
Speaker 5: often you need to attack it from different points, different fronts.

1554
01:29:00,735 --> 01:29:01,495
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was just.

1555
01:29:01,495 --> 01:29:04,095
Speaker 15: The attic area that I was more concerned about.

1556
01:29:04,135 --> 01:29:08,335
Speaker 5: So maybe a roof a roof ent is probably not

1557
01:29:08,415 --> 01:29:10,735
Speaker 5: a bad idea. I just think that the problem with

1558
01:29:10,775 --> 01:29:13,175
Speaker 5: that is that in winter time you want that heat.

1559
01:29:13,495 --> 01:29:17,175
Speaker 5: So is there a way of restricting the heat loss

1560
01:29:17,255 --> 01:29:21,735
Speaker 5: and winter but allowing the ventilation in summertime. The other thing,

1561
01:29:21,735 --> 01:29:24,335
Speaker 5: of course, is if air is going to be escaping

1562
01:29:24,375 --> 01:29:27,415
Speaker 5: from your roof space, it's got to be replaced. It's

1563
01:29:27,455 --> 01:29:29,815
Speaker 5: not going to create a vacuum, in which case will

1564
01:29:29,815 --> 01:29:33,135
Speaker 5: you end up creating drafts. But chances are underneath the

1565
01:29:33,175 --> 01:29:36,215
Speaker 5: iron and all the rest that there's enough space there

1566
01:29:36,335 --> 01:29:39,135
Speaker 5: for you to have air flowing into that space and

1567
01:29:39,175 --> 01:29:43,455
Speaker 5: then being extracted out at the at the ridge. Basically, yes,

1568
01:29:43,575 --> 01:29:47,255
Speaker 5: thanks to all right, yeah, all right, if I get

1569
01:29:47,295 --> 01:29:49,815
Speaker 5: round to that project, I will let you guys know

1570
01:29:49,895 --> 01:29:52,295
Speaker 5: how I'm getting on. Brendan A very good morning to you.

1571
01:29:55,415 --> 01:29:59,535
Speaker 5: Hello Brendan, Hello Brandan.

1572
01:30:01,215 --> 01:30:01,575
Speaker 7: There you go.

1573
01:30:01,655 --> 01:30:02,335
Speaker 12: Can you hear me now?

1574
01:30:02,935 --> 01:30:02,975
Speaker 7: No?

1575
01:30:03,935 --> 01:30:04,535
Speaker 5: Yeah, gotcha?

1576
01:30:05,855 --> 01:30:08,055
Speaker 7: Good gold because very.

1577
01:30:09,815 --> 01:30:13,415
Speaker 12: Good. It's just a couple of things. I've been building

1578
01:30:13,415 --> 01:30:16,735
Speaker 12: for some years and just retrained as an architect over

1579
01:30:16,775 --> 01:30:20,335
Speaker 12: the last fewyear several years. And as one of the

1580
01:30:20,415 --> 01:30:23,135
Speaker 12: lectures that we were at was involving the insurance industry,

1581
01:30:23,615 --> 01:30:25,655
Speaker 12: and we had one of the heads of the insurance

1582
01:30:25,655 --> 01:30:29,015
Speaker 12: industry in New Zealand, Australia speaking with us and they

1583
01:30:29,055 --> 01:30:31,575
Speaker 12: made the comment they insure against risk, they don't insurance

1584
01:30:31,575 --> 01:30:34,095
Speaker 12: against insuring against certainty. Now, it was in regards to

1585
01:30:34,255 --> 01:30:37,135
Speaker 12: things such as climate change, that kind of thing, you know,

1586
01:30:38,095 --> 01:30:40,935
Speaker 12: retreat from coast, et cetera. One thing I was looking

1587
01:30:40,975 --> 01:30:43,575
Speaker 12: at the other day is this new Granny flat rule

1588
01:30:43,655 --> 01:30:45,535
Speaker 12: where suns where meds can be built at the back

1589
01:30:45,535 --> 01:30:49,335
Speaker 12: of the property. And in that rule it does state

1590
01:30:49,375 --> 01:30:53,135
Speaker 12: that you need to notify counsel and council can comment

1591
01:30:53,295 --> 01:30:58,295
Speaker 12: and make recommendations. However, as long as you fit the criteria,

1592
01:30:58,495 --> 01:31:01,495
Speaker 12: you don't need to adhere to those recommendations. You can

1593
01:31:01,495 --> 01:31:05,255
Speaker 12: go ahead and build what your originally propose, so which

1594
01:31:05,335 --> 01:31:07,655
Speaker 12: I found intury thing, and I ask one of my

1595
01:31:07,775 --> 01:31:12,175
Speaker 12: local council people, how does insurance it with that, because

1596
01:31:12,255 --> 01:31:15,815
Speaker 12: if there isn't an issue in the future that counsel

1597
01:31:16,095 --> 01:31:19,335
Speaker 12: sort of fort saw, would insurance pay out. Now, Interestingly,

1598
01:31:20,375 --> 01:31:24,615
Speaker 12: a contact I've got through government worth insurance industry has

1599
01:31:24,655 --> 01:31:27,615
Speaker 12: turned around and said, I doubt insurance would be very

1600
01:31:27,695 --> 01:31:30,855
Speaker 12: keen to make good on that claim. That would be

1601
01:31:30,935 --> 01:31:33,655
Speaker 12: something that I don't think they're thought of here because

1602
01:31:33,655 --> 01:31:36,135
Speaker 12: if counsel come back and say we recommend you make

1603
01:31:36,215 --> 01:31:40,095
Speaker 12: these changes and it's not adhered to, I think that

1604
01:31:40,135 --> 01:31:43,175
Speaker 12: would be an out for the insurance industry. So something

1605
01:31:43,175 --> 01:31:45,735
Speaker 12: that I just want to flag with your listeners is

1606
01:31:45,775 --> 01:31:48,695
Speaker 12: that if you look at this grainy flat rule, make

1607
01:31:48,815 --> 01:31:53,375
Speaker 12: sure that if the council make recommendations, even though you

1608
01:31:53,415 --> 01:31:56,855
Speaker 12: don't have to adhere to them, I would very strongly

1609
01:31:56,935 --> 01:32:00,935
Speaker 12: recommend that you look at what they're asking and look

1610
01:32:00,975 --> 01:32:04,855
Speaker 12: at a pragmatic solution to and state in those the

1611
01:32:04,895 --> 01:32:07,855
Speaker 12: other the other place, in regard to stun and housing,

1612
01:32:09,135 --> 01:32:10,775
Speaker 12: one of the things that came up during the study,

1613
01:32:11,215 --> 01:32:13,255
Speaker 12: architects now designed about three and a half to four

1614
01:32:13,255 --> 01:32:15,455
Speaker 12: percent of the houses in New Zealand. The rest are

1615
01:32:15,455 --> 01:32:19,855
Speaker 12: designed by group home builders. The rule in architecture is

1616
01:32:19,895 --> 01:32:22,615
Speaker 12: if the sun it's into your house, it's too late.

1617
01:32:23,535 --> 01:32:27,055
Speaker 12: So houses with eves, you're right, are going to come back.

1618
01:32:27,535 --> 01:32:31,215
Speaker 12: Shading which is very very young, well used in Europe,

1619
01:32:31,375 --> 01:32:33,695
Speaker 12: that will also come back. And if you're basically buying

1620
01:32:33,735 --> 01:32:37,695
Speaker 12: these houses with no eaves on them, sort of their flush,

1621
01:32:37,815 --> 01:32:42,455
Speaker 12: they've just got the gusses overhanging. Yeah, highly recommend. Because

1622
01:32:42,455 --> 01:32:44,575
Speaker 12: the sun acting on the side of the building is

1623
01:32:44,575 --> 01:32:47,495
Speaker 12: also something, especially up in Aakland, that contributes massively to

1624
01:32:47,535 --> 01:32:52,015
Speaker 12: the increasing heat in the every evening. And from what

1625
01:32:52,095 --> 01:32:55,895
Speaker 12: I've seen anyway, and especially the new housing and then

1626
01:32:55,895 --> 01:32:56,695
Speaker 12: the last.

1627
01:32:56,535 --> 01:33:01,215
Speaker 5: It's remarkable too because you know, I've seen guys nowadays

1628
01:33:01,255 --> 01:33:03,775
Speaker 5: especially you know, I think back twenty odd years ago,

1629
01:33:03,855 --> 01:33:07,255
Speaker 5: before CARED, it would have been phenomenally complex to figure

1630
01:33:07,295 --> 01:33:09,575
Speaker 5: out where the sun's going to be at what time

1631
01:33:09,615 --> 01:33:13,455
Speaker 5: of day, on what part of the year, and how

1632
01:33:13,495 --> 01:33:16,975
Speaker 5: that might impact on you know, where your sight is,

1633
01:33:17,015 --> 01:33:21,055
Speaker 5: the elevation, the orientation and so on. Today, obviously with

1634
01:33:21,175 --> 01:33:24,215
Speaker 5: computer programming and so on, I'm not saying it's simple,

1635
01:33:24,415 --> 01:33:28,455
Speaker 5: but it's much more achievable in a shorter period of time.

1636
01:33:28,575 --> 01:33:31,455
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like there's no excuse for not

1637
01:33:31,655 --> 01:33:35,495
Speaker 5: knowing how that building in that location, that elevation, that

1638
01:33:35,655 --> 01:33:38,895
Speaker 5: orientation is going to perform at whatever day of the

1639
01:33:38,975 --> 01:33:41,895
Speaker 5: year you want to choose. So, you know, again, I

1640
01:33:41,935 --> 01:33:44,735
Speaker 5: think we've started to understand that the optimum is that

1641
01:33:44,775 --> 01:33:49,015
Speaker 5: we get sun into parts of our buildings when we

1642
01:33:49,175 --> 01:33:51,055
Speaker 5: want it to be warm in the middle of winter.

1643
01:33:51,455 --> 01:33:54,855
Speaker 5: But as the season changes and the sun is stronger

1644
01:33:54,935 --> 01:33:57,415
Speaker 5: over the summer period, that's when you know, if we've

1645
01:33:57,415 --> 01:34:00,695
Speaker 5: got an overhang and awning, we've got our windows recessed,

1646
01:34:00,735 --> 01:34:04,135
Speaker 5: and possibly we've just got a small extension to the

1647
01:34:04,175 --> 01:34:08,535
Speaker 5: cladding around the building around there eyebrow is possibly enough

1648
01:34:08,575 --> 01:34:11,815
Speaker 5: to allow sun in the winter and shade in the summer.

1649
01:34:12,255 --> 01:34:14,935
Speaker 5: You know, it is actually kind of simple, but it

1650
01:34:15,015 --> 01:34:16,415
Speaker 5: seems like we're put on the bodoth.

1651
01:34:17,455 --> 01:34:19,615
Speaker 12: It's a huge difference. The other thing that I've seen

1652
01:34:20,255 --> 01:34:24,095
Speaker 12: in Europe spent some time there, the windows a lot smaller.

1653
01:34:24,415 --> 01:34:26,895
Speaker 12: In New Zealand, we go over the top with windows

1654
01:34:26,935 --> 01:34:30,095
Speaker 12: because on plan sets, and I'd recommend to anyone having

1655
01:34:30,135 --> 01:34:34,015
Speaker 12: a house designed, your plan set will look amazing when

1656
01:34:34,095 --> 01:34:37,895
Speaker 12: someone fills the walls with big, huge windows, have it

1657
01:34:38,015 --> 01:34:41,415
Speaker 12: think about what those windows are looking at looking out

1658
01:34:41,495 --> 01:34:44,775
Speaker 12: from the inside, because often you see these houses they

1659
01:34:44,775 --> 01:34:47,615
Speaker 12: look fantastic and you realize the actual window is three

1660
01:34:47,695 --> 01:34:51,095
Speaker 12: meters from a boundary that looks at a three story

1661
01:34:51,135 --> 01:34:52,015
Speaker 12: flat next door.

1662
01:34:52,415 --> 01:34:52,615
Speaker 5: Yes.

1663
01:34:53,255 --> 01:34:57,295
Speaker 12: Yeah, in Europe they make windows a lot smaller, have

1664
01:34:57,415 --> 01:34:59,775
Speaker 12: the windows so that they're focused on garden, or they're

1665
01:34:59,815 --> 01:35:02,135
Speaker 12: focused in such a way that they actually give you

1666
01:35:02,855 --> 01:35:04,615
Speaker 12: a view, so to speak. I'd have to be a

1667
01:35:04,615 --> 01:35:07,255
Speaker 12: big resuit. In Europe, they put the windows higher on

1668
01:35:07,295 --> 01:35:09,855
Speaker 12: the building, so they have smaller windows, are higher, give

1669
01:35:09,935 --> 01:35:12,775
Speaker 12: you a lot better license the building, but don't have

1670
01:35:12,895 --> 01:35:14,815
Speaker 12: those issues with the transfer.

1671
01:35:14,375 --> 01:35:15,255
Speaker 10: Of energy, et cetera.

1672
01:35:16,415 --> 01:35:17,295
Speaker 5: And the other thing I.

1673
01:35:17,215 --> 01:35:20,455
Speaker 12: Would say is look in the last few weeks, I've

1674
01:35:20,455 --> 01:35:23,575
Speaker 12: had many friends who I've been popping into for Christmas

1675
01:35:23,935 --> 01:35:28,255
Speaker 12: to find they're doing their own renovations. Before anyone starts

1676
01:35:28,255 --> 01:35:30,895
Speaker 12: their own renovation, to please contact the build it with

1677
01:35:31,095 --> 01:35:33,655
Speaker 12: someone and say, hey, can you give me some advice

1678
01:35:34,095 --> 01:35:36,735
Speaker 12: and pay them one hundred dollars bucks give them something

1679
01:35:36,935 --> 01:35:38,855
Speaker 12: for their time, but can you just give me some

1680
01:35:38,855 --> 01:35:42,335
Speaker 12: advice on what it takes to do this I've just

1681
01:35:42,375 --> 01:35:44,775
Speaker 12: seen a couple of people who have cut their lawn

1682
01:35:44,895 --> 01:35:48,575
Speaker 12: out near the right near the roadway for a car stand,

1683
01:35:49,175 --> 01:35:51,895
Speaker 12: only to cut to high diggers and cut through the

1684
01:35:51,935 --> 01:35:56,615
Speaker 12: fire cut through a drainage bullet that's been traveling behind

1685
01:35:56,655 --> 01:35:59,495
Speaker 12: the retaining walls. They were going to put some shingle

1686
01:35:59,615 --> 01:36:01,855
Speaker 12: down on the mud and then you know, it would

1687
01:36:01,855 --> 01:36:03,775
Speaker 12: look pretty and as I mentioned to them.

1688
01:36:03,615 --> 01:36:05,095
Speaker 7: It doesn't quite that work that way.

1689
01:36:05,655 --> 01:36:09,095
Speaker 12: So just please, yeah, a little bit of advice. Just

1690
01:36:09,255 --> 01:36:13,575
Speaker 12: understand the undertaking you're about to dive into, because I

1691
01:36:13,615 --> 01:36:16,655
Speaker 12: know that Mum may have brilliant ideas of what it's

1692
01:36:16,695 --> 01:36:19,895
Speaker 12: going to take, but what you see is a tip

1693
01:36:19,895 --> 01:36:21,615
Speaker 12: of the iceberg compared to what it takes.

1694
01:36:21,695 --> 01:36:25,415
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, good on you for making that transition.

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Speaker 5: You'll be a loss to the building industry, but it

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01:36:27,615 --> 01:36:29,935
Speaker 5: sounds like you'd be a pretty damn good architect to

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Speaker 5: work with. Really appreciate it. Bringlan all the very best

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01:36:32,415 --> 01:36:34,735
Speaker 5: and some really interesting points. We're going to pick up

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Speaker 5: on it again in twenty twenty six as some of

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01:36:37,815 --> 01:36:42,055
Speaker 5: that legislation comes into action, particularly around the standalone dwellings

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01:36:42,415 --> 01:36:45,815
Speaker 5: simple standalone dwellings granny flats in the backyard. You know,

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01:36:46,015 --> 01:36:48,255
Speaker 5: how's it going to work with insurance? It's going to

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01:36:48,255 --> 01:36:51,495
Speaker 5: be a really important issue. Radio It is eight twenty one,

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01:36:51,575 --> 01:36:54,575
Speaker 5: remember rud At eight thirty. After the break, we'll be

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01:36:54,575 --> 01:36:55,695
Speaker 5: talking to Michael.

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Speaker 1: Sawdust, Sunshine and Solid Advice, the resident builder with Peter

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01:37:01,455 --> 01:37:04,215
Speaker 1: Wolfcab Call. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty News

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01:37:04,255 --> 01:37:06,575
Speaker 1: Talk Zebbi your.

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Speaker 5: New silk said Be is standing by, so we'll get

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01:37:09,695 --> 01:37:11,895
Speaker 5: to him in just a moment. Michael, good morning.

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Speaker 16: Hey, I thought us just about her first house is

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01:37:16,735 --> 01:37:18,735
Speaker 16: and I'm just giving her a hand with a few

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01:37:18,735 --> 01:37:20,535
Speaker 16: things we're looking at, putting a deck on. I was

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01:37:20,535 --> 01:37:22,575
Speaker 16: listening to you the other week and you were mentioning

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01:37:22,615 --> 01:37:25,335
Speaker 16: that Quilla might not be the best option. I was

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01:37:25,375 --> 01:37:28,055
Speaker 16: just wondering what your thoughts are on what.

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Speaker 5: Would you use. Oh no, it's not that Quill is

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01:37:31,095 --> 01:37:33,615
Speaker 5: not a good option. It's just that you need to

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01:37:33,615 --> 01:37:36,095
Speaker 5: be mindful of the fact that it contains a great

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01:37:36,135 --> 01:37:40,375
Speaker 5: deal of SAP, and if it's brand new Quiller, then

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01:37:40,415 --> 01:37:43,455
Speaker 5: you will have that SAP being released. So there's just

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01:37:43,575 --> 01:37:46,935
Speaker 5: ways of working with that. So either get it delivered

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01:37:46,935 --> 01:37:50,855
Speaker 5: to site, stack it and let it weather there for

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01:37:50,895 --> 01:37:53,655
Speaker 5: a bit or if it is going to be built

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01:37:53,695 --> 01:37:56,815
Speaker 5: in an area where there's some concrete paths nearby or

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01:37:56,895 --> 01:37:59,495
Speaker 5: can drip on something, you need to just protect those

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01:37:59,495 --> 01:38:02,695
Speaker 5: concrete paths. But no as a as a timber itself.

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01:38:02,895 --> 01:38:06,015
Speaker 5: I've used it, I don't know how many times over

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01:38:06,055 --> 01:38:09,575
Speaker 5: the year, and certainly it's very popular. There are other

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01:38:09,655 --> 01:38:12,615
Speaker 5: alternatives as well, So the most recent one that I

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01:38:12,655 --> 01:38:16,455
Speaker 5: did I used Vitex. People are starting to talk about

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01:38:16,495 --> 01:38:20,775
Speaker 5: composite decks as well. You know, if it's a budget thing,

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01:38:21,415 --> 01:38:23,415
Speaker 5: then you can still look at soft woods as well.

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01:38:23,455 --> 01:38:26,415
Speaker 5: In terms of pine necking, you know, there's a number

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01:38:26,455 --> 01:38:29,375
Speaker 5: of different options, so that it's just the sap that

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01:38:29,735 --> 01:38:32,935
Speaker 5: drops out of the brand new queler is the issue.

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Speaker 16: Right, Okay, Yeah, because from a cost point of view, yeah,

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01:38:36,335 --> 01:38:37,935
Speaker 16: I definitely probably don't want to go pine. But I

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01:38:38,055 --> 01:38:39,655
Speaker 16: was looking at some of the composites, but they're a

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Speaker 16: lot more expensive. And the ibad I I could see

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01:38:42,815 --> 01:38:44,255
Speaker 16: was the vale maintenance free.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And again you know, if you're in a position

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01:38:47,935 --> 01:38:51,175
Speaker 5: where like even with hardwoods, I would still maintain that

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01:38:51,415 --> 01:38:55,015
Speaker 5: ideally you want to seal them, so let them flash

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01:38:55,055 --> 01:38:57,455
Speaker 5: off for a period of time, give them a thorough clean,

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01:38:57,575 --> 01:39:00,095
Speaker 5: and apply a sealer to them. I know that that

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01:39:00,295 --> 01:39:03,175
Speaker 5: changes the color a little bit, but I think that

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01:39:04,135 --> 01:39:05,815
Speaker 5: you know where people go, oh, look, I'm going to

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01:39:05,895 --> 01:39:08,775
Speaker 5: do hard and I'm going to let it gray off

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01:39:08,855 --> 01:39:11,895
Speaker 5: and it'll look really nice and weathered. Yes, that happens,

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01:39:11,895 --> 01:39:13,815
Speaker 5: but you also get quite a lot of mold growth

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01:39:13,815 --> 01:39:16,015
Speaker 5: on it as well. And I think that you won't

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01:39:16,055 --> 01:39:18,815
Speaker 5: get the longevity out of it if you don't seal it,

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01:39:18,895 --> 01:39:22,895
Speaker 5: so you know, use a hardwood biomeats, but I still

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01:39:22,935 --> 01:39:24,895
Speaker 5: think you need to put a sealer on them of

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01:39:24,935 --> 01:39:25,575
Speaker 5: some description.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and I was looking at getting itsing pre oiled.

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01:39:29,655 --> 01:39:31,695
Speaker 16: Any thoughts on getting it great?

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01:39:32,855 --> 01:39:35,495
Speaker 5: Yep, it's coming from the manufacturer that way.

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Speaker 16: Okay, And last question I've got for you is a

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01:39:38,935 --> 01:39:45,215
Speaker 16: plumbing question. So it's a nine nine and for some

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01:39:45,295 --> 01:39:47,855
Speaker 16: reason they've put in a low pressure hot water cylinder

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Speaker 16: and it's not one of those Felton mixes on it.

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Speaker 16: And I noticed that if the water's not fully on

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01:39:55,455 --> 01:39:59,095
Speaker 16: over the left on hot water starts coming out the pipe.

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Speaker 14: On the roof.

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Speaker 16: And I was just wondering if you've any ideas or

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Speaker 16: suggestions on changing it over.

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Speaker 5: If it's an you build, I'm a little bit surprised

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Speaker 5: that they would go for a low pressure system.

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Speaker 16: No nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, that's yeah, fair enough. Yes, yes, it might

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01:40:19,095 --> 01:40:24,135
Speaker 5: be something the Ajax valve so pressure tempering valve. Look,

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01:40:24,215 --> 01:40:26,935
Speaker 5: it's best to get a plumber in. I rang my

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01:40:27,015 --> 01:40:30,615
Speaker 5: plumber two weeks ago to go and look at a place.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: The overflow relief valve is their full relief for overflow.

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01:40:36,735 --> 01:40:39,415
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be running all of the time, and generally

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01:40:39,455 --> 01:40:42,655
Speaker 5: it's a setting thing. Might even be a little bit

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01:40:42,655 --> 01:40:46,015
Speaker 5: of dirt trapped in there that can sometimes impact them

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01:40:46,055 --> 01:40:50,175
Speaker 5: as well. But either way, local plumber whose experience come

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01:40:50,695 --> 01:40:53,295
Speaker 5: check that, make sure it's all okay and you're off.

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01:40:54,615 --> 01:40:56,935
Speaker 16: No worries, thanks mate, Oh mat.

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Speaker 5: All the very best. Take care. And I have to

1785
01:40:59,895 --> 01:41:02,095
Speaker 5: say I do love those stories where it's you know,

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01:41:02,215 --> 01:41:05,495
Speaker 5: mum or dad going hey, look, son, daughter have bought

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01:41:05,495 --> 01:41:08,055
Speaker 5: a place and now we're out there helping them out

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01:41:08,055 --> 01:41:09,935
Speaker 5: with it, which I think is always an awesome thing.

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Speaker 5: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We've got

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Speaker 5: a couple of really good texts about, you know, the

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01:41:14,695 --> 01:41:17,815
Speaker 5: sort of I suppose simple design that we've moved away

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01:41:17,895 --> 01:41:21,015
Speaker 5: from some basic principles in terms of having a roof

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01:41:21,095 --> 01:41:24,895
Speaker 5: that has some eaves that will provide some shelter, provide

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01:41:24,895 --> 01:41:28,935
Speaker 5: some protection from prevailing winds and rain and that sort

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01:41:28,975 --> 01:41:31,255
Speaker 5: of thing, but also a little bit of shade and

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01:41:31,295 --> 01:41:35,775
Speaker 5: a really good discussion with Brendan before about you know,

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01:41:36,135 --> 01:41:38,375
Speaker 5: we do we have too much in an obsession about

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01:41:38,455 --> 01:41:42,775
Speaker 5: great big windows, which is lovely, but we've got to

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01:41:42,815 --> 01:41:47,375
Speaker 5: then understand what impact they have in terms of heating

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01:41:47,615 --> 01:41:50,815
Speaker 5: and potentially overheating and so on and so forth. There's

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01:41:50,815 --> 01:41:54,975
Speaker 5: some great discussions out there. Radio. Let's jump into the

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01:41:55,015 --> 01:41:58,615
Speaker 5: garden that are climb past with us. If you've got

1803
01:41:58,615 --> 01:42:01,175
Speaker 5: a question of a gardening nature or a quick text,

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01:42:01,255 --> 01:42:04,295
Speaker 5: you can do that. Obviously our last opportunity to chat

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01:42:04,295 --> 01:42:07,175
Speaker 5: with through this year. But hey, good news. Well I

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01:42:07,215 --> 01:42:09,175
Speaker 5: haven't asked him, but I'm going to presume that he's

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01:42:09,215 --> 01:42:11,335
Speaker 5: going to be back with us in twenty twenty six

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01:42:11,415 --> 01:42:13,655
Speaker 5: as well. So we'll take a short break after the

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01:42:13,695 --> 01:42:15,055
Speaker 5: break root climb Past.

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Speaker 1: Sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives. The

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Speaker 1: Resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp Call eight hundred and eighty

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01:42:24,455 --> 01:42:28,055
Speaker 1: ten eighty news Talk ZEDB for more from the Resident

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01:42:28,095 --> 01:42:31,135
Speaker 1: Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Listen live to News Talk zed

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01:42:31,175 --> 01:42:34,175
Speaker 1: B on Sunday mornings from six, or follow the podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio