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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, Your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togstead, be welling and welcome today. The police scandal around

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Speaker 2: the Deputy Commissioner's resignation and investigation. The money for Math's teachers.

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Speaker 2: A councilor who want to give Maori first DIBs on

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Speaker 2: land sales. Ryan Fox on how to improve a short game.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Fields and France. Rod Liddle Here is in the

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Speaker 2: UK PASKI. Welcome to Tuesday seven past six. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Tony Blair, New Reporter's part of seeing him joining the

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Speaker 2: growing lists who argue that net zero is doomed. Net

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Speaker 2: zero will be doomed, whether we do anything about it

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Speaker 2: or not. No one's going to jail if they don't

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Speaker 2: reach net zero, of course, It's just that we can

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Speaker 2: avoid a lot of needles damage along the way by

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Speaker 2: recognizing it's early and bailing so our economies can be

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Speaker 2: put back on some sort of level footing. Ironically, there's

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Speaker 2: growing anger and spain over last week's power blackout, with

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Speaker 2: a lot of people blaming the renewable aspect of their

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Speaker 2: supply chain. A Spain is over fifty percent renewable, by

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Speaker 2: the way, which is high for Europe, their argument being

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Speaker 2: the higher the reliance on renewables, the more fragilely grid is. Here.

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Speaker 2: Farmers are furious once again over the new settings for

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Speaker 2: the ets. We've gone from fifty percent to fifty one

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Speaker 2: percent reductions only because Paris says each year you need

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Speaker 2: to adjust up, so they adjusted the least they could,

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Speaker 2: but they still acquiesced to what was signed up years

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Speaker 2: ago when net zero was a bullish theory, not an

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Speaker 2: economy sapping reality. The Climate Commission the other day and

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Speaker 2: put new targets for credits and pricing on the carbon auctions.

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Speaker 2: They were completely different to last year's in a we

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Speaker 2: make it up because we don't really know what's going

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Speaker 2: on kind of way. We've stumbled and bumbled basically our

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Speaker 2: way through all of this, hurting our living standards and

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Speaker 2: to what end. Emissions are in fact down for New

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Speaker 2: Zealand ya yas. Is the world any better? No, which

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Speaker 2: is why Blair joins Badnock in calling it all out.

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Speaker 2: The Reform Party are booming in no small way because

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Speaker 2: they've called it all nonsense. As well. So between Blair,

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Speaker 2: Farrage and bad Knock, that's a lot of cross political

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Speaker 2: support to tip up an increasingly obvious dead idea like

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Speaker 2: me too in the cancel culture and all the other

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Speaker 2: band wagons that got fashionable. Net zero is destined for

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Speaker 2: the same end. Not that helping the planet isn't good

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Speaker 2: or laudable, But what we didn't understand then but clearly

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Speaker 2: do now is at what price? And are we prepared

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Speaker 2: to pay it? And given the answers no, A few

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Speaker 2: more Blair, bad Knock and Farage type voices here wouldn't

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Speaker 2: go amiss.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds cards.

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Speaker 2: To know which is the bigger move really the deal

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Speaker 2: with China that has sent the markets off to the races.

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Speaker 3: Both sides now agreed to reduce the tariffs imposed after

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Speaker 3: April second to ten percent for ninety days, as negotiators

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Speaker 3: continue in the larger structural issues or.

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Speaker 2: The announcement on US medicines that will allegedly have us

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Speaker 2: all pay more while Americans get eighty percent cats. I

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Speaker 2: never thought that this would happen in my lifetime.

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Speaker 3: I have a couple of kids who are Democrats, are

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Speaker 3: big Bernie Sanders fans, and when I told them that

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Speaker 3: this was going to happen, they had tears in their eyes.

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Speaker 2: More shortly, in the Middle East, which is where Trump

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Speaker 2: is now hitting Hamas, has released the last American hostage

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Speaker 2: in a good will gesture. The families of hostages have

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Speaker 2: I guessed some.

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Speaker 1: Hope Begudans deserve to stop their misery as well, but

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Speaker 1: that would have to end once all the rest.

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Speaker 4: Of the sixty eight hostages.

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Speaker 5: Are back, because that would be the end of hostility.

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Speaker 2: Then, in Britain's immigration reset, which hairs at touched to

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Speaker 2: the haven't we heard this before?

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Speaker 6: The system must support integration and community cohesion, including new

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Speaker 6: rules on the ability to speak English and the contribution

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Speaker 6: that people can bring to the UK.

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Speaker 2: Now Faraje knows why they're working so hard.

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Speaker 4: Edit.

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Speaker 1: We will look at what comes forward in legative terms. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but frankly this is just a knee jerk reaction to reform.

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Speaker 2: So Kia not having any of that.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm doing this because it is right, because it

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Speaker 7: is fair, because it is what I believe it.

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Speaker 2: Askia's house, by the way, caught hire overnight bit of damage.

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Speaker 2: No an injured neighbors heard allowd Bang Finally are the

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Speaker 2: big one today for the rare gem collectors. The meridian

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Speaker 2: blue diamond we told you about a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: ago is under the Hammer's night at Southebey's and Geneva

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Speaker 2: mine in South Africa. Weighs ten carrots. Only zero point

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Speaker 2: three percent of diamonds display any sort of blue color.

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Speaker 2: This one's got a fancy vivid blurst fancy bloom. Expectation

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Speaker 2: about thirty four million, so good luck with a bidding

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Speaker 2: News the world in ninety By the way, NFL news

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Speaker 2: this Morning's just been announced by the league that the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles will host the Dallas Cowboys in this year's

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Speaker 2: NFL opener Thursday, September four, first time those two sides

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Speaker 2: have met since two thousand eleven.

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Speaker 2: Goes back a little bit further than the terraffs, but

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Speaker 2: the tariffs wont have helped this, And overnight globally has

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Speaker 2: announced they're laying off another ten thousand, I say another

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Speaker 2: ten thousand. They already anounced they're laying off ten thousand,

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Speaker 2: So ten and ten you get twenty So twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: people are being laid off fifteen percent of their workforce

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Speaker 2: all around the world. They're looking to book for the

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Speaker 2: quarter a net loss of something around five billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: So troubled in the cars fourteen passed, but it's all

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Speaker 2: going to get fixed because China and the US have

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Speaker 2: done in the Orandre good morning to you, very good morning, Mike,

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Speaker 2: and it's just gagbusters. The market.

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Speaker 8: It's all on. So take a wee step back here.

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Speaker 9: What we're seeing is the sort of steady removal of

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Speaker 9: uncertainty that was created by President Trump in April the

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Speaker 9: really reciprocal. So we've had this Trump two point zero

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Speaker 9: induced volatility and uncertainty, which is supposedly part of the

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Speaker 9: art of negotiation, but we actually delivered a month of

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Speaker 9: April that was pretty uncomfortable to work through with the

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Speaker 9: S and P five hundred and falling the best part

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Speaker 9: you know, we had the bond sell off where the

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Speaker 9: bond vigilantes come back, currencies all over the show.

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Speaker 8: But the s and P. Five hundred has.

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Speaker 9: Now klinded all of it all the way back and

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Speaker 9: will look overnight it's gapped back to where it was

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Speaker 8: So we've had a heck of a round trip.

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Speaker 9: And yes, overnight you had the announcement of a holding

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Speaker 9: The parties have been talking in Geneva. We've had what's

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Speaker 8: The US has.

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Speaker 9: Slash duties for the moment on Chinese imports to thirty

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Speaker 8: So that's a we move, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: On the other side, China has reduced import duties on

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Speaker 8: To ten percent.

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Speaker 9: It does look like there was plenty of coordination and

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Speaker 9: cooperation here if you look at the way the way

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Speaker 9: the press releases were put out, Mike, can I just

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Speaker 9: make a point, It does seem that Scott Vessant, the

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Speaker 9: common sense head of reason when good, when sensible stuff happens,

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Speaker 9: you can usually find his aim in there within the

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Speaker 9: Trump administration. So they've also agreed to take aggressive action

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Speaker 9: to stem the flow of fentanyl. That may also be

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Speaker 9: a lever to chip away at these sort of twenty

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Speaker 8: But a much smaller one.

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Speaker 9: Media coverage is now sort of tend to focus on

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Speaker 8: I think, really, isn't it more important that we just

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Speaker 9: But it does appear to be a pretty big step

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Speaker 9: who've talked about that. So we've had big moves overnight

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Speaker 9: as we look a at the S and P. Fi've

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Speaker 9: that feel good action flow through into ostellation equity markets.

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Speaker 8: Today as well other markets.

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Speaker 9: US dollar is stronger, so stronger against the end, stronger

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Speaker 8: It's pushed US Treasury rates up a little bit.

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Speaker 9: We've had a wind back of the expectation of Fed

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Speaker 9: Fund rate cuts, but we do sort of start to

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Speaker 9: speculate now on what the eventual landscape that will end

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Speaker 9: you've still got concerns over potential US recession what impact

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Speaker 8: But it's much better to have this than to not

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Speaker 2: That is true, and that is China. But we got

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety something other deals to go, so

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Speaker 2: I suppose we wait to see what happens there as well. Now,

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Speaker 9: Well? I love this piece of data because we always

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Speaker 9: say we want hard data, don't we? So ready mixed

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Speaker 9: concrete fits that brief pretty well. Look, my interpretation is

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Speaker 9: that this does shine a light on the construction industry,

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Speaker 9: and I think it's still the construction industry is still

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Speaker 9: looking challenging. Yes, volumes were down one point five percent

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Speaker 9: they're up a little bit.

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Speaker 8: If you look at the year.

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Speaker 9: The March year was down five point four percent, compared

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Speaker 9: it still talks about challenging times in the industry.

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Speaker 8: I do wonder.

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Speaker 9: I don't know the starter well enough, but I do

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Speaker 9: wonder what the impact of large scale projects is. So

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Speaker 9: in crisis, presumably that uses a bucket load of concrete

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Speaker 9: and then then you will see a dip. So not

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Speaker 9: construction industry is still challenging.

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Speaker 2: Numbers please, So the Dow Jones sit down, get ready.

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Speaker 9: It's up one thousand, one hundred and eleven points two

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Speaker 9: point seven percent forty two than three hundred and sixty one.

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Speaker 9: The S and P five hundreds up one hundred and

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Speaker 9: seventy five points five eight three six that's the three

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Speaker 9: point one to two percent game. And the Nasdaq is

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Speaker 9: up seven hundred and fifty three points, up four point

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Speaker 9: days the MAGS seven index. We look at MAG seven,

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Speaker 2: Is Wayne Brown a pain?

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Speaker 14: No, We work really well with Wayne. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: Is this all electioneering? Is he putting out press releases

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Speaker 14: Of course it's election year, so of course the Mirror

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Speaker 2: The visa thing he's been bringing on about is that

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Speaker 14: No, that's an issue which my colleague, Honorable Ericus Stanford

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Speaker 14: But as I said, there'll be some issues that we

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Speaker 2: Okay, not Auckland, but Horror Fena where we're talking to

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Speaker 2: They're going to give first DIBs to local mari on Land.

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Speaker 14: No, not at all. Councils need to get back to basics.

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Speaker 14: Those are the types of things counts New Zealanders are

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Speaker 14: That's what counsels up and down the country should be

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, Sam and Brown who was the Minister

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Speaker 2: more later across the Tasman Little Proud one yesterday, just

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're interested, but the did He

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Speaker 2: witness will see more time on the stand. He's got

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Speaker 2: dozens of civil lawsuits as well. Sex trafficking is what

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Speaker 2: we're dealing with. He has plared not guilty, denies all allegations.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how this unfold.

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Speaker 12: Six forty five International Correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance

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Speaker 12: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business in France.

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Speaker 2: Captain Field, A very good morning to you kid. Morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Now where are we at? Are we all heading to

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Speaker 2: Turkey on Thursday day? Who's turning up? What's happening here?

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Speaker 10: Oh, it's all getting very mixed up and has made

447
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Speaker 10: lots of various strands to the Ukraine War.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, what we've.

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Speaker 10: Got is that the Ukraine and the EU say that

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Speaker 10: there needs to be a ceasefire, a thirty day unconditional

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Speaker 10: cease fire before talks come begin. Vladimir Putin has said

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Speaker 10: he wants talks before the ceasefire, and he's ready to

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Speaker 10: have talks take place in Turkey on Thursday. Still not

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Speaker 10: sure if those talks will take place, and still not

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Speaker 10: even sure if Vladimir Putin himself will go or whether

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Speaker 10: he'll just send his foreign minister for his parts. Zelenski,

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Speaker 10: the Ukrainian President, has said he will go and he's

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Speaker 10: looking forward to seeing Vladimir Putin there and to be

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Speaker 10: able to talk peace.

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Speaker 15: He had called.

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Speaker 10: Zelinsky says that he's not really bought over on this

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Speaker 10: idea that there would be a cease fire. He said

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Speaker 10: that a ceasefire will be a good move, be a

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Speaker 10: moved toward peas a foundation for diplomacy. That he points out,

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Speaker 10: of course, that we've seen several ceasefires announced by Russia

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Speaker 10: that haven't been upheld, particularly the most recent one over

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Speaker 10: Easter and the recent one of course over the victory

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Speaker 10: in Europe commemorations, which there were still drone attacks on

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Speaker 10: various parts of Ukraine. So yeah, what are we going

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Speaker 10: to do, Mike, Well, the EU has said they wanted

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Speaker 10: a ceasefire to start Monday night. That's just in a

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Speaker 10: couple of hours time. The German government has said the

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Speaker 10: clock is ticking and of that ceasfire isn't in place

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Speaker 10: by the end of Monday Berlin time, then they will

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Speaker 10: be looking at new sanctions. We've talked about sanctions before,

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Speaker 10: so you know there's been sixteen rounds of sanctions, Mike.

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Speaker 10: This would be a seventeenth that goes ahead. So that

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Speaker 10: would be financial institutions and targeting those shadow fleets, those

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Speaker 10: Russian fleets that go around the world. So I'm sorry,

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Speaker 10: I can give you no more clarity on anything.

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Speaker 2: That's a good and all right. What I am reading

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Speaker 2: this morning is Putin's messing some troops on the border

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Speaker 2: of Finland. This is in the tabloid press. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how seriously to take this. And this will be

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Speaker 2: a response to the joining of Finland, NATO ETCA. He's

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Speaker 2: got some tents and stuff. Is anyone getting exercised about that?

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Speaker 8: Only me?

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Speaker 10: Because I'm going to Finland at the end of the week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so look at So what you need to

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Speaker 2: do is look out for tents and if you see

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Speaker 2: a lot of Russian tents, you go, well, that's that's

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Speaker 2: on the border. Well, hold on, if you're going to Finland,

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Speaker 2: what are you going to do when you're lining up

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning? Our time for Kim?

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Speaker 10: Oh, well, I'm going to be lining up at seven

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Speaker 10: am in the morning, Paris time for Kim Kardashian. Yes,

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Speaker 10: after this, think back, this is twenty sixteen, that big

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Speaker 10: robbery here in Paris. We're expecting her to arrive. She's

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Speaker 10: going to give a statement before the court and the

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Speaker 10: early afternoon in Paris time. We're told to expect chaos

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Speaker 10: outside the court, not only journalists, not only onlookers, but

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Speaker 10: the paparazzi. Everyone's going to be there. Police have said

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Speaker 10: they will sneak her into the court, so we won't

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Speaker 10: get a view of her until she's actually physically in court.

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Speaker 10: But after she's given her statement, she has answered questions

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Speaker 10: from the judge, the magistrates and the public prosecutor, she

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Speaker 10: will make a statement on the courtroom steps after that.

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Speaker 2: And also you're going to Finland at a time when

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Speaker 2: normally you'd attend the carn Film Festival, and and.

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Speaker 7: What's happening there.

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Speaker 10: There's always something to look out for at the Can

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Speaker 10: Film Festival, but what are the big things This year

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Speaker 10: We've seen various occasions across the red carpets across the

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Speaker 10: world nudity, you know, we've seen what have been described

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Speaker 10: as sheer outfits. Well who would believe it, but the

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Speaker 10: Can Film Festival organizers have said this year nudity is

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Speaker 10: prohibited on the red carpet. I know, it's black tie,

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Speaker 10: evening gown, cocktail dresses and elegant sandals, only this year

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Speaker 10: they want people covered up and they're saying no provocative displays.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, good luck in the for the trial tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see Catherine Field and France. I was only

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Speaker 2: at the baft of photos yesterday and I'm a big

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Speaker 2: fashion fan. But I first of all, maybe I'm naive,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't realize the baftis were for a bunch

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Speaker 2: of try hards. I thought it was relatively serious, and

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Speaker 2: all these losers from reality television turned up wearing next

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Speaker 2: to nothing, and I'm thinking, what a bunch of low

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Speaker 2: rent tosses anyway? Sound almost like a prude, don't I?

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Speaker 2: So why Mike is putin massing troops on the border

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Speaker 2: of Finland. My suspicion at the moment is it's a

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Speaker 2: reaction to Finland and Sweden joining NATO. He said he

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Speaker 2: would react if that happened. It did, so he is.

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Speaker 2: He's pulling up a few tents. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Ten away from seven, the Mike Hosking breakfast with al

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Speaker 1: Vida Retirement Communities news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Seven away from seven. Mike, will you be addressing the

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Speaker 2: andro events, profanity and the hypocritical media reaction to it now?

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Speaker 2: Dave I wasn't, because it's just attention seeking. When you

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Speaker 2: write that sort of thing, you're looking for attention. She

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Speaker 2: got attention. Good luck to her, what I might say,

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Speaker 2: because I read it this morning, because I pay no

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Speaker 2: attention to these things most of the time. I'm read

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Speaker 2: it this morning because of the kerfuffle. And I actually

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Speaker 2: thought she wrote a very good column. I think she's

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Speaker 2: a very good writer. There are exceptions within this column

547
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Speaker 2: things I wouldn't have done, obviously, but in terms of

548
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Speaker 2: putting words together, she argued cogently, I thought she got

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Speaker 2: the message completely wrong in the sense that she did

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Speaker 2: what the Prime Minister's trying desperately hard to do, is

551
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Speaker 2: to unwind the complexity of the issue. So, in other words,

552
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Speaker 2: a lot of people are getting pay equity and what

553
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Speaker 2: they're trying to do mixed up with paying women what

554
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Speaker 2: they're worth and all the other emotive nonsense around it.

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Speaker 2: But having said that she was looking for a storm,

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Speaker 2: she got a storm. And when you say, a completely

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Speaker 2: different scenario of this was aimed at to do. And

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Speaker 2: I have seen nothing other than approbrium, upset, an outrage

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Speaker 2: in an age of outrage, I've just seen a lot

560
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Speaker 2: of people outraged at what she did, and there'll be people.

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Speaker 2: Jenny Shipley was saying, I won't lay a complaint, or

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Speaker 2: Nikola won't lay a complaint, but maybe others will lay

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Speaker 2: a complaint and we can all lay a complaint to

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Speaker 2: some sort of mindless, nameless, faceless body who in six

565
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Speaker 2: months time will come up with some pointless report that

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Speaker 2: says no, no, you can't do that, and as a result,

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Speaker 2: nothing will happen. Meantime, here in Mike hosking Land, I'm

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Speaker 2: carrying on five minutes away from seven Well, the ins

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Speaker 2: and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: And I'm carrying on with very good news because Westpac

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Speaker 2: have come to the party once again. This is their

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Speaker 2: Economic Overview Report, which is out this morning. We're still

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Speaker 2: wading through some uncertainty, but the GDP here are the numbers.

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Speaker 2: These are reasonable numbers. They're GDP forecast two point seven

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Speaker 2: this year, two point eight next. Ocr to continue to

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Speaker 2: drop fifty bases points. There'll be two lots to twenty

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Speaker 2: five that'll put neutral at three. Still some debate around that.

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Speaker 2: Most people think Neutral may well be needing to be

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Speaker 2: lower than three, but has be that as it may.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a couple of twenty fives under our belt

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Speaker 2: and see how we go. Eighty percent of mortgages, by

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Speaker 2: the way, are going to be rolling onto those lower rates.

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Speaker 2: And you know that means whoohoo, money more time. Let's

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Speaker 2: go shopping house prices and for really good news. And

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Speaker 2: this is why I'm using this morning because I've got

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Speaker 2: my lunch bet with Andrew Kelliher. My lunch bet with

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Speaker 2: Andrew Kelliher is that house prices will go up five

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Speaker 2: plus percent this year. He says five or under Westpac

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Speaker 2: six ding ding ding, ding ding ding ding lunch for Mike.

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Speaker 2: They did say seven, so it's down to six. But

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Speaker 2: I think they're on the money or they're or thereabouts,

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Speaker 2: so they say six percent for the year. Dairy sector.

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Speaker 2: They're still very bullish on the dairy sector. And who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be farm Gate at ten thirty for this year,

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Speaker 2: early forecast for next season of ten flat. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're big numbers. Anything with a ten. When Bill English,

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Speaker 2: once upon a time a number of years ago, said

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Speaker 2: well never so we'll never see eight again. We never

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Speaker 2: see anything more than eighty ever again. Stronger export prices,

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Speaker 2: which brings me to ans COO. Remind me to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about ANSCO next down anyway, where was I

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Speaker 2: red meat exports? Current account deficit's going to narrate a

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Speaker 2: three point five percent of GDP, which is incredible given

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Speaker 2: what sort of you know did have, which was six.

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Speaker 2: You don't want a current account lift it. As I've

608
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Speaker 2: said to you on the program a million times, you

609
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Speaker 2: actually want to do more with the world than the

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Speaker 2: world is doing with you. In other words, you want

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Speaker 2: to have some money left over at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day when you get your income. You want some

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Speaker 2: coin in the bank at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to continually owing the world. That's how it

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Speaker 2: should work. Stuart Nash, former Police Minister Labor, was the

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Speaker 2: appointees of mister misks skimming where there red flags going

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Speaker 2: on there? What happened there? Ryan Fox is driving across

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Speaker 2: America as we speak, bagging the boot kids in the back,

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Speaker 2: Missus next to them, PGA Winner. He's with us on

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Speaker 2: the program as well.

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Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between. The mic asking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the range Rover villa designed to intrigue and use

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Speaker 1: Togsdad B.

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Speaker 2: Welling seven past seven, So a lot of questions around

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Speaker 2: the resignation of Deputy Police Commissioners Geven mc skimming been

626
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Speaker 2: suspended on full pay while under criminal investigation. As a

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Speaker 2: result of that investigation, new issues emerged. It was suggested

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Speaker 2: pornographic material was found on his work computer. They were

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Speaker 2: going to sack and he jumped first. Former Police Minister

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Speaker 2: Stuart Nash is with us. Good morning to you, Good morning, Michael, Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you. How well are you known?

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Speaker 16: I knew Jiven very well, so I can talk about

633
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Speaker 16: the man who was the depty commission when I was

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Speaker 16: a police minister. Look, if you've been in the police

635
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Speaker 16: for thirty years and you've risen to the rank that

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Speaker 16: he has, you've impressed some very some very good, very

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Speaker 16: competent and capable people over the time. He rose to

638
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Speaker 16: the almost to the top. So he's a good man.

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Speaker 16: I don't know about these allegations, but I can tell

640
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Speaker 16: you I can talk to you about the man that

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Speaker 16: I knew. It was confident, he was capable, he was

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Speaker 16: respectful and an overall good blow.

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Speaker 2: You appointed him, not you personally, but the Labor Party

644
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Speaker 2: appointed him to the job. He is was until yesterday

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Speaker 2: there was nothing there, presumably at all, to indicate trouble

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Speaker 2: was ahead.

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Speaker 16: No, nothing at all. Keeping in mind that there are

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Speaker 16: two types of deputy commissioner. Is the deputy commissioner that's

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Speaker 16: been appointed up the ranks, and then there's a status

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Speaker 16: to appointment. So you know, when you say we appointed him,

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Speaker 16: he was he was an officer for about twenty six

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Speaker 16: years before he reached the role of statutory deputy commissioner.

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Speaker 2: How deeply does anybody look into the background before a

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Speaker 2: bigger job is given in these pretty deep right.

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Speaker 16: So pretty deeply actually, certainly after you know, there's been

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Speaker 16: some reasonably high profile cases where we've appointed someone as

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Speaker 16: a statute deputy and stuff has come out, so you know,

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Speaker 16: you do a pretty thorough search. But you know, the

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Speaker 16: thing I don't quite understand, Michael, I'm really honest with

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Speaker 16: you as I read some reports that there has been

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Speaker 16: porn found on a work computer. I mean, every bloke

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Speaker 16: listening to the show knows there are ways to watch

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Speaker 16: porno without watching on your work computer. So I struggle

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Speaker 16: with that because Jim's a really smart guy, and you know,

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Speaker 16: watching porn on your work computers that's pretty pretty dumb thing.

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Speaker 2: To do so the criminal this seems to be secondary

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Speaker 2: to what they were investigating in the first place. Do

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Speaker 2: you you don't have to tell us, but do you

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Speaker 2: have an indication as to what it might be?

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Speaker 16: I don't, actually and that's the truth. I couldn't tell

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Speaker 16: you if I did, but I actually don't. That's why

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Speaker 16: I can tell you about the man that I knew

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Speaker 16: when I was commissioner. And like I said, thirty years

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Speaker 16: deputy commissioner, that's almost at the top. So you've done

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Speaker 16: some really good work over thirty years, Doga.

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Speaker 2: So this is a shock. If something criminal comes out

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Speaker 2: of us, beyond the porn thing, you know, as in charges,

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Speaker 2: you will be shocked.

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Speaker 16: I will be shocked well, because that's not the man.

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Speaker 16: Keep in the mind, you know, when the minister you

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Speaker 16: have officials through your office once or twice a week.

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Speaker 16: Geven was off on one of those officials who came

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Speaker 16: in as also, as you have alluded to, when he

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Speaker 16: was appointed as a statutory deputy commissioner, there was a

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Speaker 16: little bit of work done to make sure that he

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Speaker 16: was a fit and proper person. He checked out all

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Speaker 16: the way through his career progression. There will have been

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Speaker 16: checks and balances in place to ensure that this guy

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Speaker 16: is suitable for the next level of police and as mentioned,

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Speaker 16: over thirty years he's passed every single one of those,

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Speaker 16: so it is surprising. But I don't know what's there,

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Speaker 16: and no one does until either charges or not, as

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Speaker 16: the case may be.

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Speaker 2: Time will tell. Appreciate your time. Stuart Nation formoth for

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Speaker 2: Lice Minister ten minutes past seven. If you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: it is worth watching. Ryan Fox makes the playoff at

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Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach Classic. A lots on the line besides the

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Speaker 2: prize money, most notably entry to the PGA Championship coming up.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he has a chip for Birdie fifty ish

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Speaker 2: feet nails it. When's breakthrough victory, it's fantastic, Ryan Fox,

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Speaker 2: as with us morning Mike, Congratulations. So okay, here's your

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Speaker 2: first question. From the time the ball left the club,

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Speaker 2: when did you know?

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Speaker 17: I mean, it landed exactly where I wanted it to land,

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Speaker 17: and I reckon about ten foot hour. I thought it

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Speaker 17: had a read good chance of going in. I had

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Speaker 17: a part in regulation that was really similar line and

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Speaker 17: it didn't break very much. I missed it to the

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Speaker 17: right and when I saw this one was further left.

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Speaker 17: I'm doubt it's got a chance. It had good speed,

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Speaker 17: and obviously I was pretty excited to see it going.

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Speaker 2: I reckon on any given day, how many times out

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Speaker 2: of ten would you back yourself to make that shot?

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Speaker 17: Probably zero point one percent of point one out of

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Speaker 17: ten or something. You know, like you don't chip in

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Speaker 17: very often. You know, it was an easy enough chip

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Speaker 17: without the apart from a little bit of rough behind

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Speaker 17: the clubhead. But yeah, you know, to make that, especially

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Speaker 17: in the situation, you know, that's like a one in

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Speaker 17: a thousand shot, and to put it off in that situation, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 17: very toughed and obviously I get a lot out of it,

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Speaker 17: but you know, it meant a lot to get that

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Speaker 17: first win on the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the most important thing the first win, the

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Speaker 2: check or the entry and this, you know, the ability

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Speaker 2: to play on the tour for a couple.

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Speaker 8: Of years the latter.

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Speaker 17: You know, having job security on the PGA Tour for

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Speaker 17: a couple of years is pretty big. You know, we

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Speaker 17: don't get a lot of that in this game. And

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Speaker 17: it's yeah, it's nice to nice to be able to

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Speaker 17: plan a schedule now for the next couple of years,

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Speaker 17: have some certainty around, you know, being based in the

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Speaker 17: States for the next couple of years, you know, figure

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Speaker 17: out what to do with kids, schooling and all of

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Speaker 17: that stuff, which are good problems to figure out, but

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Speaker 17: at least you know there's some certainty with all of

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Speaker 17: that now. And that's Yeah, that was huge. You know,

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Speaker 17: the other stuff's important. Getting into the PGA. This suite's

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Speaker 17: was a nice bonus as well, and obviously the paycheck

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Speaker 17: doesn't hurt, but you know, the biggest thing as getting

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Speaker 17: that status.

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Speaker 2: And lovely to have the family with you yesterday.

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Speaker 17: Yes, you can probably hear them in the background there

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Speaker 17: we're in the car driving up to Quail Hollow now,

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Speaker 17: and yeah, it was. It was awesome, you know to

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Speaker 17: I don't think the girls quite knew what was going on.

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Speaker 17: They're a bit overawed by the cameras at the end,

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Speaker 17: but you know, to be able to share that moment

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Speaker 17: with them was pretty cool. My wife actually what she

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Speaker 17: saw some of it while she's picking the girls up

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Speaker 17: from childcare and didn't quite realize I'd won until one

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Speaker 17: of the other players said, hey, you know, these if

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Speaker 17: these guys, miss Ryan's going to actually win, and it

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Speaker 17: was pretty cool. She was a bit shocked and it

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Speaker 17: was a nice Mother's Day present for her as well.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, what's the drive from where you were to

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Speaker 2: Quail Hollot. How far is that?

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Speaker 17: It's about three and a half hours. It's not bad,

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Speaker 17: so it's it's been a slow morning though, I can

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Speaker 17: say that.

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Speaker 2: Can we say why? Ryan?

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Speaker 17: There might have been a little bit of red wine

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Speaker 17: drunk last night. But I haven't missed anything today. We've

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Speaker 17: had storms all day. We're driving through the pouring rain

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Speaker 17: up to Quell Hollow, so apparently the golf course if

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Speaker 17: it's not shut, I don't think there'll be anyone out

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Speaker 17: there today. They had no fans out on the golf

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Speaker 17: course today either, so it's yeah, I don't feel like

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Speaker 17: I've missed much. And you know, obviously getting in this

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Speaker 17: week was a nice bonus. The only way I was

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Speaker 17: going to get in was actually winning. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 17: nice to be heading up there and trying to prepare

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Speaker 17: for another.

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Speaker 13: Major heading up.

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Speaker 2: They're a winner. You can't argue with that, can you.

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Speaker 17: No, No, I'm pretty chuffed, so.

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Speaker 2: You should be.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: I'm mate lovely to catch up. Go well for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the trip.

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Speaker 17: Thanks Mike, appreciate it and appreciate all the support from

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Speaker 17: back from everyone.

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Speaker 2: That's been awesome, good stuff. Ryan Fox Life from somewhere

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Speaker 2: between Myrtle Beach and Quail Hollow on the road with

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Speaker 2: the kids, slightly hungover. Sort of the best way to

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Speaker 2: be in many respects. Fourteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: Don't you love hearing from people who are living in

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Speaker 2: their dream? I can't get enough of it. Seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: So more resources being piled into schools this time. Are

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Speaker 2: Math's got one hundred million over four years, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty three Maths intervention teachers. They'll help primary school

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Speaker 2: kids who are struggling from next year to every child

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Speaker 2: will have their Math's ability checked in the first couple

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Speaker 2: of years of schooling.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Principals Federation National President le And is with us.

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Speaker 2: Leand Morning Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 16: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well thank you. You can't argue the government and

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Speaker 2: the Minister Stamford isn't working hard to write the ship.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean she wants exactly the same as principles

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Speaker 5: and that is that every young person thrives in school,

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Speaker 5: So you know, any investment into supporting children who are

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Speaker 5: struggling at goals is a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Do teachers fix maths issues?

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Speaker 5: They definitely can if they're given the support that they need.

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Speaker 5: And you know, this funding injection into maths is you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a start. But what we need is to make

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Speaker 5: sure that every single one of our teachers is an

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Speaker 5: expert of teaching on maths. And that's not addressing this

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Speaker 5: in this latest now.

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Speaker 2: It is not, which was my next question. If you

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Speaker 2: do need specialists, what's that say about what we're training

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Speaker 2: as generalists and do we need to do something about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right, every single teacher needs to be

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Speaker 5: a math specialist, and unfortunately, you know, we do not

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Speaker 5: have the professional developments that we know desperately need for

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Speaker 5: all of our teachers. And it starts with training, of course,

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Speaker 5: you know, when they were training to be teachers, but

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Speaker 5: it then continues on when they're at school, I mean,

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Speaker 5: when they're working. So we really need to make sure

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Speaker 5: that the money there is investing and helping our students

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Speaker 5: and our schools is invested in teachers too, and that

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Speaker 5: they have the professional development they need up the gill

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Speaker 5: to be able to deliver.

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Speaker 2: Where are we getting all these teachers from? Are we

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Speaker 2: growing them or importing them?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the problem, isn't it. We don't have enough

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Speaker 5: teachers as it is, so you know, to take one

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Speaker 5: hundred and forty three I think it is out of

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Speaker 5: our school system and make them the experts and then deliver.

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Speaker 5: You know, basically a program where you withdraw children from

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Speaker 5: the classroom is not going to solve our problem in

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Speaker 5: the long run.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's interesting is now. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: they're going to do it. Next time I get Erica on,

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to he about it. Lee, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Principles Federation National President lean openly, which brings

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Speaker 2: me to Rod, who's with us after eight thirty. I

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Speaker 2: just cannot wait to talk to them. What they're trying

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Speaker 2: to do with immigration in Britain, as you will in

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Speaker 2: the rest home area no longer be able to import

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Speaker 2: somebody into the country, so you'll need to have a

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Speaker 2: locally grown trained person to work in the rest time area. Now,

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Speaker 2: if we did that in this country, whether it be teachers,

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Speaker 2: nurses or restaurant people would collapse literally overnight. G Mike

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Speaker 2: Stewart Nation is a decent bloke, smart, straight up talker, good,

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Speaker 2: crucial thinker. Some of his ex colleagues could take a

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Speaker 2: left from his book. You're probably right. What I want

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Speaker 2: to know is he joining New Zealand first or as

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Speaker 2: he's starting his own party A there's a political discussion.

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Speaker 2: But another day, Mike, I've got to signed eighteenth flag

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Speaker 2: from Ryan's first British Open sold into junior golf fundraiser,

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Speaker 2: one of my best assets at the moment. The value

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Speaker 2: twenty four, the social media ban. I've been thinking about that.

884
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: It's like the pay equity debate. Actually not hard to

885
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: draw up a lot of emotion, not hard to find

886
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 2: people who would argue passionately for it. So in this sense,

887
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: perhaps unlike the pay equity debate, the government is on

888
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: the right side of this. Now, for the record, my

889
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: gut say is the pay equity debate is somewhat of

890
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: a risk, but is more beltway in union based than

891
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: many thinking. Won't ultimately damage the government. The social media

892
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: ban won't damage them either, even though it won't work,

893
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: which it won't. It's not like the school phone ban.

894
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: A phone ban is played and white in class. No phones. Now,

895
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: that's been successful because the government played the bad guy,

896
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: allowing schools to do what schools should have done all along.

897
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: The social media ban is designed to help parents be

898
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: the bad guys backed by the government. See now we're

899
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: looking to Australia. In Australia, they're exempting YouTube, they're exempting telegram,

900
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: they're exempting gaming and as part of that roadblocks. There

901
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: are confirmed reports of Peterphile rings using roadblocks. So the

902
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: government and our arbiters of what's good, what's bad, what's

903
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: what's wrong, Libertarians will be having a field day and

904
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: no wonder Actor not on board and Act by the way,

905
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: according to their leader who was listening to the Prime

906
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: Minister on this program yesterday, have not moved their position

907
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 2: on backing the idea because they don't. So the moment

908
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: you go down the metas bad YouTuber's fine pathway, that's

909
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: lawyers and possibly threats of lawyers or possibly the pulling

910
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: of services from country. The government was also you might

911
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: remember related matter, government was also looking at big tech

912
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: paying for local media for content that the big tech

913
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: takes and makes money off. We were following Australia on

914
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: that as well. What happened to that trumped it and

915
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: tariffs and threats of services being pulled. Has any of

916
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: it come to pass?

917
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: No?

918
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Speaker 2: It has not. Will it come to pass?

919
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: No?

920
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Speaker 2: It well not now. Glenn passcras Z Energy not commenting

921
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Speaker 2: on Flick flecks a retailer of power. If you're a

922
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Speaker 2: Flick customer and there's forty thousand of you, you're going

923
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: to be shipped off to Meridian. I don't know whether

924
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: you're excited about that or not, but this brings back

925
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: the whole gent tailor argument and you can't make any money.

926
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Speaker 2: Octopus or another retailer not a gent tailor or a retailer,

927
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: have done themselves a survey in that they've completely and

928
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: utterly wasted money. I have no idea what they paid

929
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Speaker 2: for it, but they completely and utterly wasted any money

930
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Speaker 2: they spent on this particular survey. The survey tells us

931
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: thus half of New Zealand I'm more concerned about the

932
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: power bill than this time last year. Breaking up the

933
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: electricity gent tailors could improve competition. We don't know that.

934
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Speaker 2: We're only guessing because we say random stuff to polsters.

935
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Speaker 2: Curia did it? Forty six percent are now more concerned,

936
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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent about the same, eight percent less concerned.

937
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Speaker 2: Sixty nine percent of US big majority government is not

938
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Speaker 2: doing enough to bring down electricity prices. As I asked

939
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Speaker 2: earlier on in the program with Ryan, what is it

940
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: you want the government to do? Literally? Literally? What do

941
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: you want the government to do? Do you want the government

942
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: to hand you some money? Is that what you were like?

943
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Would you like the government to pay your power bill?

944
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: What is it that they can tangibly? Do you want

945
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: them to instruct You want to be like Russia or

946
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: North Korea and they instruct the power companies what they

947
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: can charge. Sixty seven believe sixty seven percent believe the

948
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Speaker 2: profits being made by electricity companies are unreasonably high? Are they?

949
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Speaker 2: Ask yourself how much Meridian made and you don't know.

950
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: Of course you don't know. Most people don't know what

951
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: profits electricity companies made are. Just for the record, Meridian

952
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: made a loss. There are no profits for Meridian. They

953
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: lost money, so they lost twenty million dollars one hundred

954
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: and twenty million that's going up by the minute of

955
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: sam is it hardly show one hundred and twenty million dollars?

956
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: So when you say they make a lot of profits,

957
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: they don't always make a lot of profits. Does any

958
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: of us actually know what we're talking about? And therefore,

959
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: given we don't, why do we answer poles?

960
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 11: For goodness sakes?

961
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: Next to New Zealand's home for trusted news and views,

962
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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate your local

963
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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news.

964
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Speaker 2: Togs head be Mike, what did the government cut GST

965
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: on power bills to help people out? Now? See, this

966
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: is where we go wrong in this country. These are

967
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: the sort of crazed ideas that we can't be having.

968
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: Why don't we just take GF What are the stuff

969
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: we'd like GST off? So obviously airline tickets because they're

970
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: too expensive. We'll take GST off that fruit, vegetables obviously, well,

971
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: actually food, let's take GST off food because that would

972
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: help us out. Uniform school uniforms, school lunches, obviously, because

973
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: we already did the food power We need help on power.

974
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: What if you need a new car. We don't want

975
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: to pay GST on accout because that makes the camera expense.

976
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: Why do we just scrap GSC Why don't we.

977
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 8: Have no texts?

978
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: See where this goes? Twenty three minutes away from eight

979
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: speaking of it at Stephanie Tully runs Jetstar. They were

980
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: listening to Greg Foran's interview the other day of aviation

981
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: and competition and whizzing up and down the country on

982
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: a plane and how much it costs them coming. They said,

983
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: we like to come on the program, and I said, Stephanie,

984
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: everyone wants to come on the program, but we found

985
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: a slot and shall be with us after eight o'clock

986
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: this morning. Now we've got more race based trouble at

987
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: council level, this time in Horror Fenoa. A couple of

988
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: councils are calling out a proposal that would give you

989
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: we first write a refusal at market rate when the

990
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: council sells certain properties. Now the council votes on this tomorrow.

991
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: Claimers it only got this far because the public were

992
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 2: locked out of a meeting. Last year, a similar first

993
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: of its comment policy for council land was adopted, apparently

994
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: by towering back in twenty twenty one. Anyway, Local Council

995
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: of Sam Jennings is with a Sambury good morning to

996
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 2: you morning Mike how I are very well, thank you. Any

997
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: land or certain land no.

998
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 18: So this is a default policy that would see all

999
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 18: of council's land that is suitless land deemed non core

1000
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 18: to be offered first to to EWE.

1001
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 2: Why were the public locked out of the meeting?

1002
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 18: So this this is a proposal that was first cooked

1003
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 18: up by a couple of councilors back in two wenty

1004
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 18: twenty three. It was a sort of piggybacked off another

1005
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 18: another decision and it's taken almost two years for it

1006
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 18: to navigate its way through the through the council machine.

1007
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 18: But it's yeah, it's ultimately just a really ill thought

1008
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 18: out policy that that you know that that two years

1009
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 18: sort of indicates how how much trouble there has been

1010
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 18: in trying to get something ready to put in front

1011
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 18: of council.

1012
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: Has the public had any say on this at all?

1013
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: Would the public be widely aware of what's going on

1014
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: locally or.

1015
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: Not not at all?

1016
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 18: This look this the first direction to the CEO to

1017
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 18: go away and think about this was done in public excluded.

1018
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 18: And yes there's been a couple of workshops that have

1019
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 18: happened since, but no, look, this is on the on

1020
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 18: the public agenda tomorrow. I'm certain that the vast majority

1021
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 18: of our population would have absolutely no awareness of this

1022
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 18: at all.

1023
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: Of those who think this is a good idea, what's

1024
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: their argument?

1025
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 18: I think I think the argument sort of stems from

1026
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 18: this idea that in some ways it's a it's a

1027
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 18: form of redress or or it's it's you know, we

1028
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 18: get this this phrase it's the right thing to do,

1029
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 18: and you know that that's problematic from from my perspective

1030
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 18: and from some of my colleagues perspectives, where we say

1031
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 18: this is about betting privilege or or a right into

1032
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 18: council policy, and that's contrary to this whole obligation of fairness,

1033
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 18: transparency and that whole.

1034
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and financial if it's any land, I mean, if

1035
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: if if you were arguing with me that, look, this

1036
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: was land they once held, and there's a claim in

1037
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: the tribunal and there's been a dispute over this particular

1038
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: piece of land, I might have some sympathy. But if

1039
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: you're telling me it's literally any chunk of land that

1040
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: you go to sell and Mari get first dips. That's

1041
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: just straight up and down racism.

1042
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 18: Correct And we and we have a property portfolio that

1043
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 18: has small, sort of weird slivers of land through to

1044
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 18: large pieces of land that have significant development potential. And

1045
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 18: I'm with you if the better approach would be to

1046
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 18: simply understand what the level of interest is across various

1047
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 18: pieces of land, if there's some that have corps of

1048
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 18: significance or something like that, But that doesn't take away

1049
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 18: from our obligation to ratepayers.

1050
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: To get the best price for the land and put

1051
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: it out to tender and whoever pays the most as bad.

1052
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: So how do you think the vote will go tomorrow?

1053
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: Because he's the Democratic end, do you think you'll win

1054
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: all lose?

1055
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 18: Well, Look, I think it's a pretty finally, finally balanced

1056
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 18: decision and so that's that's going to be My message,

1057
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 18: is that hoping that our ratepayers come out and request

1058
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 18: speaking rights and tell us what they think, because this

1059
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 18: is the only opportunity to do that.

1060
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: Where's the mayor on this?

1061
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 18: Look don't know, I don't don't know. He wasn't there

1062
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 18: for the original He was the one one and I

1063
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 18: only meaning I think he's had to be absent for

1064
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 18: and he missed the vote on whether to go and

1065
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 18: sending the CEO away to do some work on this.

1066
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 18: But as I say that, that was a surprise to

1067
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 18: many of us at the time.

1068
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: On related matters, do you have Marie Wards or seats?

1069
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 18: Yes we do, we have too Mightywards.

1070
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: And you're putting those to what a referendum at the

1071
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: local body election or you're abscraping them. So yeah, no,

1072
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: it's going to a referendum and you reckon it'll win

1073
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: or lose.

1074
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 18: Look again, I think the vote will be pretty finely

1075
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 18: balanced here and if you know, yeah, I think it's

1076
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 18: going to be closer than people might think.

1077
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Well, good luck with it. I mean, I

1078
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Speaker 2: don't know. See, here's the thing. We had the old

1079
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: Simeon Brown on earlier, and he's busy telling councils to

1080
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: get back to the basics and get on with being

1081
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: a council and stop you know, dabbling in these sort

1082
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: of areas. It doesn't seem to be landing. Do you

1083
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: guys listen to central government at all or you don't

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Speaker 2: really care or well yeah, this is the.

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Speaker 18: Thing, is that I feel certainly our council at times

1086
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Speaker 18: gets very distracted with some of the very soft, fluffy

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Speaker 18: identity politics and not on the you know, the big

1088
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 18: important stuff, the strategic infrastructure decisions. So yeah, look, I

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Speaker 18: think it is a council wide problem.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, go old to Murray. I wish you're

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Speaker 2: the best. Sam Jennings, who is one of the councilors

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Speaker 2: in horror fenyway, I don't know what you do. See

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00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: it goes back to the government swimming simming and can

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00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: say that till he's blue in the face. But if

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Speaker 2: people ignore him, you look like a weak government, don't you.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen minutes away from eight hosking how much is smoke salmon?

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Speaker 2: Go and call it, Glenn right now? How much is

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Speaker 2: smoke salmon? Aquillo? Sam? Thirty six dollars aequilo? So Sam says,

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Speaker 2: thirty six dollars aquilo, Glenn. I'll give you one more chance.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's more or less than that? At

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Speaker 2: a guess at a store?

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Speaker 13: I guess more, go for fifty forty sixty in the

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Speaker 13: late forties, I go for.

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Speaker 2: Come back with the answer. In the moment seventeen to two, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show pod asked on iHeartRadio Power

1106
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Speaker 1: by the News Talks, it'd.

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Speaker 2: Be irony and of ironies. Literally just flick on the

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Speaker 2: Herald for a quick look. Public Services Minister Judith Collins

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00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: is considering removing diversity requirements in public sector hiring, focusing

1110
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: on merit based appointments. While there's your headline this morning, fantastic,

1111
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: What a remarkable and revolutionary thought based process that we

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Speaker 2: would hire somebody who could actually do the job as

1113
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: opposed to being woke. Now she makes that announcement, then

1114
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: nothing happens, right, So she makes the edict and then

1115
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: everyone just carries on as per normal. What's the point

1116
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: of that. Why have a government that says do this

1117
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: and nobody does it? Seems ridiculous to me. Back to

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00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: the salmon, Kate brings home a piece of salmon. She

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Speaker 2: does this regular unless she eats a lot of salmon.

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Speaker 2: Salmon's fantastically good for you. I'm endlessly interested in the

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00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: cost of everything, because when I move into politics, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to end up on a leader's debate and one

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Speaker 2: of the questions is going to be how much is

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Speaker 2: a piece of salmon? How much is a price of milk.

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Speaker 2: How much is the average power bill? And I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be ready for it. I'm I'm going to blow

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Speaker 2: them away anyway. So I'm asking you a piece of salmon.

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Speaker 2: And she goes and I got really nice piece of salmon.

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Speaker 2: It was sixteen dollars fifty. I see how much is that? Aequila?

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00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 2: We look at it and I am absolutely gobsmacked. Now

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00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: it happened to be a boutique piece from a very

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: small producer, and I thought, well, that'll be because it's

1133
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: a boutique piece from a very small producer. So I

1134
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: go look up smoked salmon and all the regular stuff.

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00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: Your king salmon, your supermarket salmon, is even more than

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Speaker 2: what we paid. So we paid one hundred and thirteen

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00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: dollars akilo, at which point I go, you must be drunk.

1138
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: I fill it's sixty or seventy. I'm thinking this is ridiculous.

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00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 2: Lambs up there as well, snappers in the fifties. One

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen dollars a quiller. Then you go to

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Speaker 2: your bog standard king salmon, put a bit of pepper

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Speaker 2: on it. One hundred and twenty five dollars akuilo. I

1143
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: can find you salmon bog standard mass produced salmon smoked

1144
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: salmon from a supermarket at one hundred and twenty nine

1145
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: dollars a kilo. How long has this been the way?

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00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: What's going on now? The argument is, because I start

1147
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: investigating at this point, a lot of waiters lost in

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Speaker 2: the smoking process. So you start off with a kilo

1149
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: and you smoke it up and it comes out at

1150
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: about two grams, so you've lost lots, so they've got

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00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: to make up the difference. Then they had a bit

1152
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Speaker 2: of pepper vacuum seal it. So somewhere in there. But

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00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: is somebody making a lot of money or is that

1154
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 2: just the cost of salma?

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Speaker 13: Well, so you're not eating a kilo of salmon, of.

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Speaker 2: Course you're not, but the cost per you're not eating

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00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: a kilo of steak either. Well yeah, but if you

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00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: and you're not in a kilo of snapper, you.

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Speaker 13: Have a steak. Though I'd argue that you'd have more

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Speaker 13: steak than you'd have to have.

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Speaker 2: Two fifty grams of steak unless you're a peak.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but you're not gonna have turn of fifty grams

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 13: of salmon. That's going to be no.

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00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is it's the amount you eat,

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Speaker 2: therefore they can charge more per kilo.

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Speaker 15: No, I'm just saying that when she comes home with

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Speaker 15: her portion, she's going to wake it out her portion

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Speaker 15: of salmon, and it was sixteen dollars.

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Speaker 2: You go, oh whatever, Well yeah I did, and that's

1170
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Speaker 2: how this whole thing began. But look where we ended up, Glenn.

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Speaker 2: We're paying a hundred two five to one hundred and

1172
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Speaker 2: twenty nine dollars aequila for smoked salmon.

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Speaker 13: So I know a guy who does very nice smoke trout.

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Speaker 2: Well, how much is that aquila?

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Speaker 13: Well nothing, because he answer, he's related to me.

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Speaker 2: Grow your own salmon, grow your own trout, grow your

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Speaker 2: own vegetables, to cut the GST off power obviously, and

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: we're set to go. But how long has that been

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00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: a thing? Let me know if you're in the business.

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Speaker 1: Ten away the mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range, Rover

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00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: Villa News Togsadben, I've.

1182
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Speaker 2: Opened up as salmon can of worms here. I'll have

1183
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: to go back to that. Seven and seven away from

1184
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: spark As in the Telco weighing into the use of

1185
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: social media, they're launching the countries where his mobile plan

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00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: for kids It will let parents control usage and data

1187
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Speaker 2: limit users to low data wraps like bus apps and

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Speaker 2: find my Phone now sparks. Leela Ashford is with us

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Speaker 2: on this, Leela, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Thank you, good morning mine.

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Speaker 2: How technically advanced is this?

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Speaker 19: So it's the first to launch in New Zealand. When

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Speaker 19: we do launch it, it's new capability that we'd be providing

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Speaker 19: for our customers, and really it's based off quite a

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Speaker 19: bit of research we've done with parents and our customers

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00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 19: who are parents who are telling us that they're trying

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Speaker 19: to balance the benefits of giving their kids a phone

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Speaker 19: that come with the connectivity and being able to keep

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Speaker 19: in touch with them, but they're not wanting to open

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Speaker 19: the floodgates to everything that comes with the internet all

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Speaker 19: at once.

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Speaker 2: Who's it aimed at? Age wise? When you talk about

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00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: parents giving kids phones, would we talking about age wise?

1204
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 19: Well, from our research, we see that parents tend to

1205
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 19: make that choice generally somewhere between eight and fourteen. In

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00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 19: terms of who can access this plan, we leave that

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00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 19: up to parents. It's seventeen and below, but it really

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 19: does vary by family.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it says new parental control features allowing parents to

1210
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Speaker 2: manage the plan by are sending how much data is

1211
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: allocated to the child? Can you do that already?

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 19: So generally when you buy a plan, it comes with

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Speaker 19: a certain data limit and so your child can you know,

1215
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 19: che But can I.

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Speaker 2: Put my kid on my phone? I mean, I know it?

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: Can I do? We have kids on my phone? So

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00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: can I just do that and solve the problem.

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00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 19: So what this plan does is it comes with a gigabyte,

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00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 19: but then the parent decides when the child gets the

1221
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 19: next gigabyte. So it's actually dishing out data in smaller

1222
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Speaker 19: proportions based on when the parent thinks that is appropriate.

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00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 19: And to give you context, one gigabyte you're only really

1224
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 19: going to be able to do endless scrolling or watching

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 19: reels on social media for one to two hours, depending

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00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 19: on the quality. So this isn't letting kids off the

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00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 19: tether to do whatever they want. It really is something

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Speaker 19: that's more suited to low levels of data use.

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Speaker 2: Great debate of our time, isn't it? Leela appreciated Leila

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Speaker 2: Ashford's spark corporate relations sustainable.

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Speaker 15: I mean when you set up an iPhone, it literally

1232
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Speaker 15: asks you are you sitting this up for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yes, or for your kid, yeah. But what if you lie.

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00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 17: Well?

1235
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Speaker 2: And then that's the problem, isn't it. Because Jason comes

1236
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: and Jason the bosh. I mean did you hear him before?

1237
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: I mean just lost he lost his head, he's nuts.

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: So my comment this morning, just before seven thirty, he

1239
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: comes and goes, I couldn't disagree with you more. I

1240
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: couldn't off he went. And this is the interesting thing

1241
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: about this whole phone thing. What I'm arguing is that

1242
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: we all agree, do we want to do something about

1243
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: protecting our kids with social media? Of course we do do,

1244
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: some of us as parents do it already. Yes, you

1245
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: would like to.

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Speaker 13: Hope I got a bowl. Apparently I had a bowl.

1247
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have kids anymore, thank god, but I

1248
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: had a bowl when we did have kids, and we

1249
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: laid down some pretty rough rules, and as I told

1250
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: you on the program yesterday, we got pretty hated for

1251
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: a period of time, but we did the parenting. So

1252
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: for people who don't want to do that, we're relying

1253
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: on the government now apparently, so God bless them. But

1254
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: all I'm arguing is technically, forget the emotion. Forget whether

1255
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: we should forget Jason was going to stop them at

1256
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: the border. Those were as parting words at the end

1257
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: of sport. Just stop them at the border, just turn

1258
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: turn them off. I hate them. This was meta and

1259
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: all the Googles, I hate them, turn it off, stop

1260
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: them at the border. I didn't have time to explain

1261
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: that the net doesn't work at the border. But be

1262
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: that as it may, So forget all of that and

1263
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: just go back to the technical Can you technically stop

1264
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: six year olds getting to social media? Can you do it?

1265
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 2: And the answer is no? And I know the answer

1266
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: is no because there are plenty of people looking at it,

1267
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: and guess what, not one of them has come up

1268
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: with the answer yet. And until you do come up

1269
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: with the answer, the next part is is it worth

1270
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: pursuing it in an emotional way if you know ultimately

1271
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: the answer is no, and therefore the problem is not solved.

1272
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 2: Jason will come back in during the news at eight.

1273
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: We'll just carry that on. So God, I can't wait

1274
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: till we get out of the news and Sport and

1275
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: we can get back to some interviews.

1276
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Speaker 1: Jetstar CEO next setting the agenda and talking the big issues.

1277
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: The mic HARKing Breakfast with a Vita retirement, communities, Life

1278
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: Your Way News, tog s head b.

1279
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: The perfect for a flight there seven past eight last week.

1280
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: One of the listeners to the Great Foreign Interview were

1281
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: the good folks at Jetstar four and is on his

1282
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: way out. Of course, some of the changes on problems

1283
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: he faced in his time, he claimed, will be sort

1284
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: of by the time he leaves in October. The debate

1285
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: remains though around pricing and especially regionally in this country,

1286
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: with the Finance Minister keen on the market studying the

1287
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Prime Minister not so much. Jetstar is the cheap alternative,

1288
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: of course, it also the airline with a reputation that

1289
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: isn't that reliable. It also picks the roots it competes on,

1290
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: reminding us that a population of five million, maybe maybe

1291
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: one of the better airlines is all we can basically handle. Anyway,

1292
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: let's talk aviation. CEO of Jetstar out of Australia this

1293
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: morning is Stephanie Tully, who is what it's very good morning.

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Speaker 13: To you morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing very well? Indeed, I've been reading some

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Speaker 2: interesting reports out of Australian aviation. There was I think

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Speaker 2: what they referred to as a white paper, and that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the border security in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of days. Is there an angst in general terms around

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Speaker 2: aviation and Australia, the price of tickets getting from A

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Speaker 2: to B, getting in and out of the country and

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Speaker 2: all of that post COVID.

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Speaker 11: Oh, Look, I think there's a cost of living pressure

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Speaker 11: that everyone's feeling, both in Australia and New Zealand. And

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Speaker 11: I guess that's where Jetstar becomes a great choice because

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Speaker 11: you know, everyone at Jetstar works together to make trouble

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Speaker 11: more affordable and accessive. And I think what we've seen

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Speaker 11: with Jetstar and with our operational performance and our brand

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Speaker 11: improving over the last few years, we've seen a lot

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Speaker 11: more people choosing Jetstar. So I think I think there's

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Speaker 11: always that pressure in the environment when you've got higher

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Speaker 11: inflationary pressures. But you know, that's where jet Star, I

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Speaker 11: think our whole purpose for being becomes very relevant because

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Speaker 11: consumers still want to travel. We've seen since COVID people

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Speaker 11: you know, prioritizing travel over spend on other things after

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Speaker 11: what they went through. So I think travel remains really

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Speaker 11: key for Australians and New Zealanders because of the where

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Speaker 11: we're placed in the world, and I think it's in

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Speaker 11: our in our DNA to want to travel. So I

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Speaker 11: think that's why we think Jetstar plays such an important role.

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Speaker 2: Some of the American airlines, I note, and some of

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Speaker 2: the cruise lines are now suggesting that the post COVID

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Speaker 2: madness is peaking or has peaked. Are you seeing any

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Speaker 2: of them?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think we went through a very

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Speaker 11: big peak post COVID of just you know, demand outstripping

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Speaker 11: supply as airlines got back and their feed and consumers

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Speaker 11: were desperate to travel not only for holidays, but to

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Speaker 11: see family and friends that they had not been able

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Speaker 11: to do during COVID. We still see it heightened from

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Speaker 11: pre COVID levels, so we think there's been a structural change.

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Speaker 11: And I think for New Zealanders and Australians, you've got

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Speaker 11: you know, you're far away from from the rest of

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Speaker 11: the world, you're essentially Ireland. So I think that it

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Speaker 11: is not only historically in our in our DNA to

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Speaker 11: wanna travel, but I also think COVID might have structurally

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Speaker 11: changed that that you actually prioritize that travel and you're

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Speaker 11: willing to spend on travel than you know, consumer goods

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Speaker 11: and other things. We see that in our insights and

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Speaker 11: we think that that's still heightened.

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Speaker 2: Is your model the same internationally? It is as it

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Speaker 2: is domestically in terms of it is cheap.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, how we want to be lowfares leader in the

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Speaker 11: in the markets we operate. We are focused on our

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Speaker 11: cost space wherever we can to make sure we can

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Speaker 11: keep you know, delivering low fares. It's absolutely what we're

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Speaker 11: trying to do in New Zealand. We've been working really

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Speaker 11: hard as a team. I think, you know, we employ

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Speaker 11: over four hundred people over there to just make sure

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Speaker 11: that we're reliable so that people want to fly Jet

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Speaker 11: Star and I think what people are looking for is

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Speaker 11: great value and Jet Start. Really it's about offering lowfares,

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Speaker 11: being reliable, and also giving people choice in the way

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Speaker 11: they travel, so they can choose the extras if they want,

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Speaker 11: but they don't have to if they don't want, So

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Speaker 11: you've got that option. And I think we don't see

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Speaker 11: ourselves MIC is half an our line. We see ourselves

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Speaker 11: as a full air line, you know, offering a real choice.

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Speaker 11: We don't take for granted that Kiwi's every time they

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Speaker 11: travel have a choice of who they fly with so

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Speaker 11: we want to be in that in that choice consideration,

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Speaker 11: whether you're traveling for work or for leisure.

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Speaker 2: You would concede though that you chery peck the roots

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Speaker 2: and you chery pick the roots that you think you

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Speaker 2: can make money on. That's fair, isn't it here?

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Speaker 11: Any Absolutely absolutely, because we have had experience in the past,

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Speaker 11: so we've operated on some of the thinner roots and

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Speaker 11: we just were losing money, you know, And and it's

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Speaker 11: difficult with a strong national carrier you're competing against. But

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Speaker 11: we I mean, we definitely see room for more growth

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Speaker 11: over there. We're concerned about some of the cost pressures

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Speaker 11: over there, particularly Auckland Airport, but you know, we see

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Speaker 11: there's room for potentially us putting more aircraft over there.

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Speaker 11: We've had a lot of growth on the trans Tasmin.

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Speaker 11: We've got you know, three new routes launching a couple

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Speaker 11: of weeks to Hamilton and Dunedin, and we're excited for

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Speaker 11: more growth there. We've just got to make sure that

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Speaker 11: you know, we're getting the best cost environment that jet

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Speaker 11: stuck and.

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Speaker 2: Keep Auckland Dewport aside. I don't excuse Auckland report as

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Speaker 2: far as I can work get no one likes Auckland Airport,

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Speaker 2: but cost pressures going. Are we doing something cost pressure

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Speaker 2: wise wrong in this country that needs to be attended to.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think there's a couple all things

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Speaker 11: we're working on. I think, you know, the airport costs,

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Speaker 11: particularly Auckland, as you say, are high. We think their

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Speaker 11: development is overdone. So it's good that it's you know,

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Speaker 11: the prices we're reduced following the Commerce Commissions report, but

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Speaker 11: we think it's still overspect and overdone. And I think

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Speaker 11: you've got to be really careful. You know, we've infrastructure

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Speaker 11: spend that you're spending the right amount. You know that

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Speaker 11: travel still remains affordable whilst delivering what you need. So

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Speaker 11: where we think New Zealand's tourism sector is still recovering,

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Speaker 11: we think there's more we can do with the government

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Speaker 11: around some of your fees. So we're working with the

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Speaker 11: government on how, you know, how we make sure that

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Speaker 11: New Zealand's tourism sector thrives like it should. I think

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Speaker 11: there's some disproportionate fees in place, and we want to

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Speaker 11: make sure that particularly the gateway between Australia and New

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Speaker 11: Zealand and some of that more short haul Pacific Island

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Speaker 11: travel is not disproportionately affected by fees compared to some

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Speaker 11: of the longer haul travel as well. So there's things

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Speaker 11: we're working on to try and make mark that environment better.

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Speaker 2: Okay, brief break more in the moment. Stephaniely Tully, who's

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Speaker 2: the Jetstar CEO with us out of Sydney this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's their team past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 1: It by News Talks it.

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Speaker 2: Be These talks will be coming up sixteen past eight it.

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Speaker 2: Stephanie Tully is the just our CEO. Just reputationally speaking,

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Speaker 2: stephan I don't expect you to necessarily comment on in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, but you'll be well aware of how many

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders view in New Zealand at certain times. And

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's their fault and sometimes it isn't. Compare it

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Speaker 2: with Quantas who's gone through something similar. Our airlines just

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Speaker 2: easy targets for people to get angry with.

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Speaker 11: And I think people are passionate about airlines. It's something

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Speaker 11: people love to do, is to fly and travel, and

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Speaker 11: therefore they love to talk about it. So I think

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Speaker 11: you know it happens I think you've just got to focus,

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Speaker 11: you know, on your own race, and we've been focusing

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Speaker 11: in New Zealand particularly on just being good and being

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Speaker 11: a good competitor and making sure that any history New

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Speaker 11: Zealanders have with the jet Star brand, we can prove

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Speaker 11: that we are a reliable, great offering and a choice.

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Speaker 11: So I think, I mean, I think it is just

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Speaker 11: something people love to talk about and you've got to

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Speaker 11: take not take that for granted.

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Speaker 2: You would say that, wouldn't you, because you're the CEO.

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Speaker 2: But have you hand on heart genuinely gone through that.

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Speaker 2: It's in the past. JITs a bit unreliable. Not many

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Speaker 2: planes may turn up, might not.

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Speaker 11: I think so if you look at our operational performance

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Speaker 11: like the last six months, we're pretty much equal to

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Speaker 11: any Zealand in fact, in much we were more reliable

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Speaker 11: than them and we had a really low cancelation ratear

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Speaker 11: I'm proud of everything everyone's done over there to just

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Speaker 11: be focused on it, and I think we see it

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Speaker 11: in our insights that you know, our brand has improved

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Speaker 11: and people are seeing it as a genuine choice. And

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Speaker 11: there's lots of commentary online I can see, for example,

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Speaker 11: for the next three months that we're usually around fifty

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Speaker 11: percent cheaper, and I think that's it's hard to ignore,

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Speaker 11: and it's a genuine option for New Zealanders and I think,

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Speaker 11: you know, with the precious people are feeling, it's it's

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Speaker 11: I think we've become a great alternative and a great

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Speaker 11: option to fly with it. And the reliability is much

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Speaker 11: stronger than it was historically. So we'll keep working at

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Speaker 11: that because you know, we know that's so important to

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Speaker 11: people when they're flying us.

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Speaker 2: Can you make money doing what you do? The reason

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Speaker 2: they asked that question as Emirates came out the other

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Speaker 2: day and they're making record profits for the third year

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Speaker 2: in a row. Quantas are making huge profits, Singapore making

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Speaker 2: massive profits. Is that is that a model based thing

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Speaker 2: or can any align if they do it right, make money?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you can, I think, I mean Jetster is on

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Speaker 11: track for a record result this year. And I think

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Speaker 11: you know, for us, it's harder because the margins are

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Speaker 11: thinner with low cost carriers, you've got to be really

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Speaker 11: focused on keeping your cost based low. But we also

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Speaker 11: you know, don't offer sort of all the bells and

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Speaker 11: whistles that cost money to airlines. So there's proof around

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Speaker 11: the world that that that both models, the full service

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Speaker 11: model and the lo cost model can be very successful.

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Speaker 11: And I think, you know, we were the first low

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Speaker 11: cost carrier into Australia. We are the only low cost

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Speaker 11: carrier in New Zealand, and I think it's you know,

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Speaker 11: I think it's there's been a lot of growth to

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Speaker 11: demand for that type of travel and we can. I mean,

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Speaker 11: I commute between Melbourne and Sydney over here, I see

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Speaker 11: every week people flying for the first time ever because

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Speaker 11: of Jetstar, and I think it's, you know, it's unlocked

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Speaker 11: travel for people that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford it,

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Speaker 11: which is just we're really proud to play that role

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Speaker 11: to be able well.

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Speaker 2: Which is interesting because there's no shortage of reading from

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Speaker 2: major airlines who cannot spend enough money at the other

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Speaker 2: end of the plane front loading business and first and

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Speaker 2: upgrading you to cavigata and shows and massages, and there's

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Speaker 2: clearly money in that, there's margin in that, and you're

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Speaker 2: arguing your model works as well.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they both can. I see it working

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Speaker 11: for a dull brown carrier with Quantus, but the different

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Speaker 11: you've got to work on different things. I think for

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Speaker 11: Couannus it's about, you know, how do you deliver value

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Speaker 11: that allows allows the premium. For jet Star, it's how

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Speaker 11: do you manage your costs so you can keep fares

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Speaker 11: low which drives demand at this end of the market.

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Speaker 11: So I think you know, they're different business models, but

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Speaker 11: both can be successful if done well.

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Speaker 2: I know you didn't like the half airline. Well I'm

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Speaker 2: suggesting to you and you've seen it. Australia Quantus, Jet Star,

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Speaker 2: Virgin Rex is gone. Is that Australia. That's what Australia

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Speaker 2: can handle. Therefore, in New Zealand at any New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and a jit Star, that's about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think the thing you need to do

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Speaker 11: as airlines is balanced the demand for travel with the

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Speaker 11: supply of the airlines that provide that travels. So you know,

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Speaker 11: I think if you outstrip supply versus demand, that there's

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Speaker 11: going to be economic problems for airlines. So I think

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Speaker 11: you know they're not big countries, you know, and so

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Speaker 11: probably in New Zealand, two carriers feels right in Australia

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 11: similar but I think you know, we want to be

1506
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 11: over there just a genuine second carrier and provide options

1507
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 11: where we can, and we are looking Mike for growth

1508
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 11: where we can as well, because we think there's there's

1509
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 11: opportunity and if you look at it, you know trans Tasman,

1510
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 11: you know there's opportunity for growth there. We think in

1511
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 11: Pacific Island as well. So we'll keep looking, you know,

1512
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 11: for opportunities to do that like we've done with christ

1513
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 11: Church and Hamilton and as well.

1514
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: Great Stuff's definitely good to have you on the program.

1515
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Go well, Stiffane Tully, who is the

1516
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: Jetstar CEO with us out of Sydney. This morning, eight twenty.

1517
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: One, the mic Asking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news

1518
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: tog zib.

1519
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: My great interviews. She spoke, well, great to listen to

1520
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: a CEO that doesn't speak in circles. I'll come back

1521
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 2: to your feedback in a moment. Now, you you didn't

1522
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: start your business to manage the MINUSII of day to

1523
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: day HR operations, did you. You started it because you

1524
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: love what you do, whether it's roasting the perfect cup

1525
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: of coffee, building custom furniture designing the next big thing.

1526
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: But the reality of running an SMB likely means you're

1527
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: buried in leave requests, managing misconduct, administering employee on boarding,

1528
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: all the while staying on top of compliance updates. My

1529
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: HR my HR can take all that stuff off your

1530
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: plate now, the number one HR platform for the busy

1531
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: kiismb my HR's expert team of HR professionals is there

1532
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: to support you when HR headaches arise, and the all

1533
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: in one HR platform helps the small business owners manage hiring, payroll, benefits,

1534
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: compliance without the headache. So it's all good. So making

1535
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: HR easy, that's what we're about. You book your free

1536
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 2: platform demo today. My hr dot works. That's where you're going.

1537
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: You got that. My hr dot works. Posking Mike abused

1538
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: Jetstar a few times recently. All I can say is

1539
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: ten out of ten value for money over five hundred

1540
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: dollars per person. Chupid at the Sunshine Coast the near

1541
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: New Zealand will use them all the time now, thank

1542
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: you grant. Mike fly Jetstar often or it's cheaper. Never

1543
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 2: had any delays or cancelations, so for us good value.

1544
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: What a breath of fresh air didn't. Duck and Dive

1545
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: answered the questions regionally, they need to reassess where they

1546
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: could fly with their turboprop fleet and make a decent

1547
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: go of it. I'm sure they have. That's what I'm

1548
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: trying to explain is the cold hard reality. I mean,

1549
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: we just we're five million. It's as simple as that,

1550
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 2: if you don't think. And it's been tried many many,

1551
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: many many many times before, from Sunny Air to the

1552
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: Chatham's Air Air. Chatham's trying to pull out a Fuckatani

1553
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: at the moment they can't make it work. What was

1554
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,480
Speaker 2: the guy's name from Hamilton who started his own airline

1555
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: became a counselor whatever it's not. Yeah, couldn't do it.

1556
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: And then there's no shortage of people who want to

1557
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: give it a go. Can you ask the CEO will

1558
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: Jetstar be coming to there?

1559
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 10: No?

1560
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: If they look at a region and go there's money there,

1561
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: they'll give it a crack. But they can't the same

1562
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: way that Rex in Australia couldn't make it as a

1563
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: regular as Q EW and Wilson You and Wilson Q.

1564
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: As a regular business traveler, I shifted to jet Star

1565
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Could not ignore the price

1566
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: difference anymore. Must say jet Stars delivered with good service.

1567
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: So do you go then we come to a couple

1568
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: of things in the Hospo area. One is dB Breweries,

1569
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: who announced yesterday their profit is down. What I can't

1570
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: work out, which brings me to my other hospital story

1571
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: after the news. What I can't work out is their

1572
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: profit down because people are drinking less beer or because

1573
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: of the economy generally you drink less beer? Are you

1574
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,959
Speaker 2: drinking less beer because that's a health issue, a deliberate

1575
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: issue on your part, and you've decided to spend less

1576
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: money on alcohol, therefore you're not doing what you used

1577
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: to do? Or would you love to drew some more

1578
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: beer but you just can't afford to That's the part

1579
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: I can.

1580
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 15: Do is they don't make enough stouts? Why is there

1581
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 15: all these hazes everywhere? Where's the stout guys?

1582
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 13: Come on?

1583
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 3: Or what?

1584
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,919
Speaker 2: As I was about to say, where are the stouts?

1585
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: Are they making the wrong sort of beers? Just from

1586
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: left field beer? As we go to the news, Now

1587
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: a couple of Hospot stories for you after the news

1588
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: with more questions associated. The questions never end here on

1589
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 2: the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

1590
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

1591
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed

1592
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togs headb.

1593
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: For some reason, I'm reading about Teesley yesterday in Australia.

1594
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 2: For some reason, Tesla in Australia monitor what car people

1595
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: sell to buy a Tesla. They don't do it elsewhere

1596
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: around the world, which I would have thought would be

1597
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: one oh one. You want to know who your customers are,

1598
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: where they came from, what sort of decisions they made.

1599
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: Any In the US they do a bit, but the

1600
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 2: other way round. So when you sell your Tesla, what

1601
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: do you go and buy? Which I found slightly more

1602
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: interesting than what you sell to get into a Tesla

1603
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: in Australia. In America, the most popular car they once

1604
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: they sell a Tesla, and there's a lot of that

1605
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: going on for obvious reasons at the moment. They then

1606
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: go buy an F one fifty Lightning, which is the

1607
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: most extraordinary thing. The lightning part is an electric version

1608
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: of the F one fifty, which is a gargantuan truck.

1609
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: So you sell a smallish car to buy a gargantuine truck.

1610
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: If you don't buy that, you buy a Cadillac Lyric,

1611
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: which is a medium sized Cadillac or you buy a keya.

1612
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,879
Speaker 2: Now what brand of car in Australia do you sell

1613
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,839
Speaker 2: more often than any other brand to get into a Tesla?

1614
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: And the answer is, go on, Sam, you gave me

1615
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: the article, so you know the answers Toyota. Well, part

1616
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: one of that is you didn't give me the article.

1617
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: Part two is it's not Toyota. So it seems a

1618
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: strange thing, an article you didn't give me. And then

1619
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: with the wrong information, the answer.

1620
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 13: Has it changed? As he pushed print on that.

1621
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: The answer is Master. They sell more Masters than anything

1622
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: by themselves, taseless. See, this is what I deal with

1623
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: in the production department, people who think they gave me

1624
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: things that didn't and then they tell me the wrong thing,

1625
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: and you wonder why the show is the way it is.

1626
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away.

1627
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 12: From nine International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace

1628
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 12: of mind for New Zealand Business.

1629
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: I got you to print the article out, didn't I? Yes,

1630
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: I did, under my instruction, but you obviously it's a

1631
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: word even in there anyway, Roderick, good morning mate. The

1632
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: trade deal is starmer a winner out of this? And

1633
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 2: does anyone ask the question whether the British are better

1634
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: off pre or after the deal? Or does no one

1635
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 2: think about that stuff?

1636
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 4: They do said about it, certainly the opposition things about it.

1637
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 4: The truth is, nobody really knows whether we're better off,

1638
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: whether it's a good deal or not. We do know

1639
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 4: that we're worse off than we were in March. You know,

1640
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: it's very straightforward. We think we think we're better off

1641
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 4: than the EU. We think we've got a better were

1642
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: we're going to have ended up with a better deal.

1643
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 4: And we think too that as deals go. Yeah, we

1644
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 4: don't sell many cars to America, you know, vanishingly small number.

1645
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 4: So most of the stuff seems to be all right.

1646
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to We're gonna have to put up

1647
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 4: with imported beef and chicken, the dreaded chlorinated chicken. But

1648
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 4: I think that's only because people worry about it any

1649
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: because I don't really understand what every other who's processing

1650
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 4: plant does to chicken. So I think there's a bit

1651
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 4: of ignorance around there. He seems to have done a

1652
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: good deal, and Trump has said it's a good deal,

1653
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 4: and it comes on the back I've been making a

1654
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 4: good deal with India, you know, a five billion quid

1655
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 4: trade deal with India, which is exactly the kind of

1656
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 4: thing that you would have wanted as soon as we

1657
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 4: left the EU, but was always held up, held up

1658
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 4: for a number of reasons. It's not, at least the

1659
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 4: fact that India continues to buy vast amounts to sell

1660
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: vast amounts of weapons, buying vast amounts of oil rather

1661
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 4: from Russia, which always put a spanner in the works.

1662
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 4: I mean the other there are problems with the India deal.

1663
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that we will be taking an Indian

1664
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 4: labor at a cheaper cost than our own, which is

1665
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 4: a real problem.

1666
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. The interesting thing, and we've talked about going back

1667
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 2: to the local body elections and all that sort of stuff,

1668
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: how does this land, Because presumably the theory is you

1669
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: land some good trade deals, the economy grows, the economy grows,

1670
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: the government's popular, you get re elected, et cetera. Juxtaposing

1671
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: that and the pantsing he got in the local elections

1672
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: presumably for being useless. So how does something like that

1673
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: land with people that they go, oh, he's not as

1674
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 2: bad as we thought.

1675
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 4: No, they more a couplet. There is absolutely nothing to

1676
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: be gained from foreign affairs victories unless you've just won

1677
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 4: a war. And even then, Mike, as Winston Churchill would attest,

1678
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: even then, it's not mail done, you know, foreign affairs stuff.

1679
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 4: It's what happens in your pocket. It's what happens. It's

1680
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 4: what you see every day to day. It's the number

1681
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: of potholes in the road, the number of trans woke

1682
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 4: teachers in the classrooms, and the amount of tax taken

1683
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 4: from your wages.

1684
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The resetting of the relationship which is as

1685
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: next port of call with Europe. Is that reversing bricks

1686
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: or is he trying to walk a line that it's

1687
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: not quite that it's something in between.

1688
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: Well, I suggest it is reversing bressive because he's told

1689
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 4: us it isn't he's completely set for the last six

1690
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 4: weeks that was in the past. We've made out decisions

1691
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 4: where we're going to have to stick with it. But

1692
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 4: I think there will be a loosening of various of

1693
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 4: various things which which will cause a problem, probably because

1694
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 4: of problem as well as Northern Ireland which still has

1695
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: this separate kind of deal with the EU, which has

1696
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 4: come out of it, you know, comparatively badly. So there

1697
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: will be howling from the people who were most fervently

1698
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 4: in favor of leave. But there is no doubt that

1699
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 4: the kind of corrosive and unpleasant relationship we had with

1700
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 4: you in the first five to six years of exit,

1701
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 4: at least that has to end. You know, they are

1702
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 4: our allies, they're our.

1703
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: Friends, exactly. Hey, listen, just this, and because it fascinates me,

1704
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: because of what we do here this business is the

1705
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 2: so called reset of visas immigration. You're not going to

1706
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: be able to hire foreigners in risk homes anymore. All

1707
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: the stuff that was announced over the weekend. Who the

1708
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: hell is going to work in a rist home if

1709
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,919
Speaker 2: you can't bring in somebody from overseas.

1710
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully few people. I mean, the whole point is

1711
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 4: to try to reduce the annual immigration level, and working

1712
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 4: in a care home is not a skilled job. However,

1713
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 4: it stands in sharp contrasts, I say, to the kind

1714
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 4: of deal which we saw struck with India, which means

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Speaker 4: more Indians will be coming over. Perhaps they will be

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Speaker 4: working in the crehouse. So it doesn't make much sense

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Speaker 4: at the moment. And that is the other thing. Mat

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Speaker 4: Starman knows he has got huge problems with immigration migration,

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Speaker 4: and he's promising, you know, a drop, but there seems

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Speaker 4: to be no way as to how he could explain

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Speaker 4: how that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, we'll see you Thursday. Roderick appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Starm's house, by the way, his own house sort of

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Speaker 2: lit up in flames, loud bang. According to the neighbors,

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Speaker 2: holl Street was cordered off emergency cruise this early hours

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Speaker 2: of the morning. Tim past eleven, Tim pass one rather

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: the combing for evidence. Damage to the front. No one hurt.

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Speaker 2: He rents it out because as soon as he got

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Speaker 2: the job, of course, he moved into an apartment at

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Speaker 2: number ten, So the tenants will beyond the landlord, which

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Speaker 2: presumably is still him. Sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Likes read first full show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard

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Speaker 1: By News talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Right thirteen to nine. Here's my question. So there's a

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Speaker 2: company called Little. This is the Hospow debate. So every

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01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: time we hear somebody falling over in Hospow, we go,

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Speaker 2: oh it's a sign. Other times, oh, these are difficult days.

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Speaker 2: Little and Friday was a successful operation. Three outlets in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: At their peak, they apparently employed seventy people, made five

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year, so you think they're doing all right?

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Speaker 2: They're all closed now. Now my summation is not a

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01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: little in Friday customer, but I know many people who were.

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01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 2: What they made was donuts and cakes. Now my argument,

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01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: and according to my wife, quite large donuts and cakes.

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Speaker 2: So here's my question. Are we moving away from that

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Speaker 2: sort of food? And therefore their story And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not criticizing them in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to point out the difference between a

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Speaker 2: broad base the economies in trouble. Therefore, we're not spending

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: money debate versus I can spend money, but I'm just

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: not spending it on donuts and cakes anymore, which then

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01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: brings us to the next one, which is what the

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01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 2: media this morning you're calling an iconic eatery called Ekemburger

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01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: in Wellington? Are they been going for the full six months? Now?

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01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: How you can become iconic in six months? I got

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: no idea. So that's more reported than anything else. Just

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: another really sad story about the demise of Cuba Street.

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Speaker 2: So what are they saying? Was the Eckenburger not really

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01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: that good of burger is doing burgers on Cuba Street

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 2: the problem or is that also part of the broad

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 2: based hospitality debate where we're not spending as much money

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 2: as we used to, or possibly a combination of all

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01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: of those things. See are there stories within stories? So

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01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: it's not hospit it's not necessarily the economy. It's the

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01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: story within the story. The same way the Brisco's warehouse

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01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 2: story is that Briscoes makes heaps of dough and keeps

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01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 2: breaking records the warehouse struggles. They both, broadly speaking, do

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01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: the same thing in the same environment, in the same economy,

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01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 2: and yet one has a story to tell and one doesn't.

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01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: You could probably do it to radio. How is it

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 2: some radio programs have a very large audience and make

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01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: a lot of money, and other radio programs don't have much.

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01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 13: How long do you think it took you to become iconic?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, Glenn. I reckon I crossed the rubicon,

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01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: which is how I'm referring to myself now. I crossed

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: the river, same thing. I crossed the Rubicon. I reckon

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01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: five years ago. I reckon there came a point where

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: people decided that love me or hate me, and can

1779
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: I be honest, make no mistake, there is still plenty

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01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 2: of people that I'm not aware of that love me

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01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 2: or hate me. I'm here to stay.

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01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 15: So it was longer than six months, though. Oh what's

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01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 15: the quickest anybody ever became an icon.

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. That's a very very good question.

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01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 15: Because it's just that when Max talked to Ryan earlier

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Speaker 15: on this Morning about Ickenberger.

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Speaker 2: Well, neither of them are iconic.

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01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 15: No, no, but sounded surprised that Ryan had never been

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01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 15: to where it can be.

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01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's never been to Wellington as far as I

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01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: know either. Have you listened to Ryan's show? He says

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01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: quite often, I'd never been there. I don't think. I

1793
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,879
Speaker 2: think Ryan has lived in his house and this studio

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01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: and also at TV three when he was there. I

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01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: think he's been to three places and those are the

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01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 2: only three places.

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01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 13: So he's modeling. Has life on you very much like me.

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01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: Night Away from Nine.

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: The Mate Hosking, Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, News

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Speaker 1: Dogs head be.

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't have time to go through endsco. I have

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: to do that tomorrow because I've got questions around that

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01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 2: as well. Katie just texted said Ryan is from Wellington.

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01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: And Ryan texted and said Ryan is from Wellington. So

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01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: that's two people who know he's from Wellington. One of

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01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: witches himself. He just doesn't talk about it much. I

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01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 2: think he's embarrassed by it.

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 15: Well, I don't think that nullifies You're not leaving the

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01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 15: house comments does it?

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01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: Well? Have you just listened to a show? Listen to

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01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: I listened to the people go have you been on

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01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: a plane? Have you been to this place? Did you

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01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: go there? Neva? Does it?

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01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 8: When?

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01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: Did you guys know.

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01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 13: From a place if you never actually sit outside the door?

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: Good question, Glynn. They're too late in the day for

1818
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: these sort of quality questions. Bring them in between the

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: seven and seven thirty. We'll increase our time spent listening

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01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: six minutes away from nine.

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01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse Mayhem megasales.

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01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: On Now, Oh that's good. Ikenberger's been around for years.

1823
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: Just the new guy couldn't make it work, so he

1824
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: bought it. It was already underway. He couldn't make it work,

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01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: So then the question is was he a bit useless?

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01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 2: No personal attack. I'm not Andrew of answering you. I'm

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: just saying if it had gone for years and then

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01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: suddenly it doesn't go what happens.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Warehouse Mayhem megasales on now on Reddit?

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01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: Okay, sending it to care Music on Reddit. Do you

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01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: know I've never been on Reddit? I'm like lying, Ryan

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: Bridge like that, I've never been on Reddit. I wouldn't

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01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: know how to do it. There's a sub stack somebody

1834
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: just told me to read. They said, did you read this?

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01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't even know where substack is.

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01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: I don't even know what subsect is. I don't know

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01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: where it is.

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Speaker 13: Nobody's surprised to hear any of this time.

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01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Right, So I've never been on Reddit. I've been on

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01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Bridges show though you know Ryan, he's from Wellington.

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: What's the dumbest idea? Probably class twenty minutes. What's the

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01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:24,480
Speaker 2: dumbest idea you have that you'd nevertheless believe, if implemvented,

1843
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: would make the world a better place. And there's what

1844
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: they're saying on Reddit. Some of them are quite good. Actually,

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01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: leaders of all countries should pass an international exam created

1846
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: by scientists and top brains of all fields. If they fail,

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01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: they're out. I'd go along with that. Actually, I quite

1848
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: like that. If you don't use a turn signal, your

1849
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 2: car doesn't turn that. No, I don't like that because

1850
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: as much as I like the theory of that, idiots

1851
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 2: would go straight and then crash.

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01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 13: It's very confusing around roundabouts.

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01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: Exactly every two years you have to move to a

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: different country. So people don't get stuck in their way

1855
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: of thinking. I would limit them to countries I would

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01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: like to go to, and of the one hundred and

1857
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: ninety six countries in the world, I would be able

1858
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: to go to probably two ban guns, bring back personal swords. Yeah,

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01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: I could probably live with that. Politicians should be forced

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01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: to wear jerseys covered in the lobby'st sponsor groups like

1861
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: sports players and teams. Quite good. Then we get into

1862
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: the slightly dumb ones paint all rooftops white to reflect

1863
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: heat and warm places or black who absorb the light

1864
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: and emit heat so you don't rely on heat pumps

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01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 2: as much.

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01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 13: Don't they actually do that in some places in the world.

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01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 15: Good, So have they even done my idea of you

1868
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 15: know how we people push the button repeatedly on the traffic.

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 13: Light because they think it's going to make it work.

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01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: Faster, what if it actually it did, And the same

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01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: with lists ten within five seconds, instant crossing. I love

1872
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: that stuff. Required daily exercise, boom done. That's good. If

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01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: you're on welfare, you're employed by the state and they

1874
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: can put you to work anywhere as long as you

1875
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: qualified and physically able. Well, the qualified and physically able

1876
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: the problem, and that's why we've got a welfare that's

1877
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: why we got the sort of welfare situation we have.

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01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: But anyway, we've solved or attempted to at least talk

1879
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: about some of the problems that have interested us this

1880
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: morning over the last three hours, and we'll do it

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01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 2: again tomorrow from six as always, Happy.

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 8: Days, Things that make your goal hmm.

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01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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