1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Hilda. I'm Chelsea Daniels and from the team behind the 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: front page. The New Zealand Herald's daily news podcast, This 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Is Accused the polking Horn Trial. Over the next six weeks, 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: in conjunction with our usual daily episodes, we'll be bringing 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: you regular coverage as one of the most high profile 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: trials of the year makes its way through the High 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Court at Auckland. A warning, this podcast contains disturbing content. 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: The trial of Philip Polkinghorn has in theory, hit the 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: halfway mark, with Justice Graham Lang telling the jury it's 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: broadly on schedule. Given we're about halfway, let's run through 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: some of what we've heard over the last few weeks. 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Philip Polkinghorn is accused of strangling his wife, Pauline Hannah 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: at the couple's Remuere home in April twenty twenty one, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: before allegedly staging the scene to make it look like 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: sh'd taken her own life. His defense maintains she committed suicide. 16 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: We've heard from police officers, those who first attended the 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Upland road scene, and a Canadian rope expert who said 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: the bright orange rope hanging from the upstairs balustrade was 19 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: too loose. A beltmark on her neck seen on the 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Easter Monday morning, disappeared by the next day, suggesting it 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: could have been applied after death or taken off up 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: to two hours after the courts heard thirty seven point 23 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: seven grams of meth was found dotted around the home. 24 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: A pipe was found at Polkinghorn's workplace. Auckland Eye and 25 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: a work friend has detailed the day he came forward 26 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: and disclosed his drug use. Friends and family of Hannah 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: have testified she confided in them about the couple's relationship, 28 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Polkinghorn's infidelity, his alleged anger issues, and an incident where 29 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: she claimed he wrapped his hands around her neck. Polkinghorn 30 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: has already pleaded guilty to possession of meth, which was 31 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: made public on day one of the trial. We've heard 32 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: from Pauline herself via a recording of a family dinner, 33 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: where she divulges details of their sex life as sex 34 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: worker in Sydney, threesomes and emotional abuse. He's out of 35 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: control because he doesn't understand how to control himself. But 36 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: he loves me more than anything in the world. I'm 37 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: his brick, he is mine. She said. The court listened 38 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: to a rambling epic of a recorded police interview hours long, 39 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: where Polkinghorn details how he found his wife on the 40 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: morning of April fifth, twenty twenty one. We've heard of 41 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: Hannah's medical history, an itemized list of prescriptions spanning decades, 42 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: highlighting her battle with depression, a long relationship with weight 43 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: loss drugs, reports of suicide ideation in twenty nineteen, and 44 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: an attempted suicide in the early nineteen nineties. Her record 45 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: is peppered with mentions of alcohol use disorder and a 46 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: couple of psychiatrist visits. The defense points to a powerful 47 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: cocktail of medications and is indicated it'll offer evidence later 48 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: in the trial that some of it, when combined or 49 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: when taken with alcohol, can increase the risk of suicide. 50 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Her work on the COVID nineteen response was stressful. She 51 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: worked all the time, sending emails at all hours, they say, 52 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: with her details of tea and toast, a scrape or 53 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: was it a graze on the forehead? How power usage works, 54 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: an orange nylon rope, a sheet in the dryer, a 55 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: trip to the tip, a batch at rings beach, a 56 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: crisscross patterned belt, plans for Christmas twenty nineteen, weekly visits 57 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: to a sex worker on the North Shore, a COVID 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: vaccination rollout, a retirement payout. And that is just the 59 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: first three weeks. Week four of the trial began on 60 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning. As Philip Polkinghorn's lawyer, Ron Mansfield had 61 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: an unrelated case before the Supreme Court on Monday, Polkinghorn 62 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: and the jury had the day off. First to the 63 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: stand on Day sixteen was former chief executive of auckland I, 64 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Deborah Boyd. She joined the clinic in twenty sixteen. She 65 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: refused to be filmed or recorded, but you'll remember we 66 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: can report what she said. She said she started noticing 67 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: a change in Polkinghorn's behavior from twenty eighteen. She noticed 68 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: weight loss. Pauline had him on a diet. She said. 69 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: She started receiving emails in the early hours of the 70 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: morning and noticed he'd fall asleep in board meetings. His 71 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: eyes were shut and he wasn't participating in the conversation. 72 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: She recalled. This was happening at most of the six 73 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: weekly meetings in twenty twenty, the year before Hannah's death, 74 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Prosecutor Pip McNabb asked about the meth pipe found at 75 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Auckland I in October twenty twenty. You'll remember it was 76 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: found on a Monday and CCTV footage was checked to 77 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: see who was there over the weekend. Polkinghorn Boyd herself 78 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: a cleaner, a finance manager. She said it was never 79 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: established who left the pipe at the clinic. Drug testing 80 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: was done at the clinic in July twenty twenty one, 81 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and the results found a consulting room tested positive for 82 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: meth in an air conditioning vent. Defense lawyer Ron Mansfield 83 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: asked Boyd if the laser room where the pipe was 84 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: supposedly found was used the Thursday before. He referenced a 85 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: report which states the room was last used for a 86 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: teenage male patient on that day. Boyd said if the 87 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: pipe was there on the Thursday, it would have been 88 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: found on the Friday. The rooms are checked between each day. 89 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Mansfield said that's an assumption. The room where the myth 90 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: was later detected in the air conditioning was a consult 91 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: room which could be used by anyone and wasn't specific 92 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: to Polkinghorn. Boyd agreed, but Polkinghorn always worked out of 93 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: a certain room, she said, but concedes there was no 94 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: record of who used the consult room or when Mansfield 95 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: and Boyd go through meeting agendas emails about when board 96 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: members has shown documents. This surprime example of the level 97 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: of research required of lawyers in a trial like this. 98 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: It shows the defense went as far as requesting the 99 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: emails sent to board directors to calculate how far before 100 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: board meetings they were sent out and thereby challenge Crown 101 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: accusations about his behavior at the meetings. The defense team 102 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: also has researched the temperature on a certain day several 103 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: years ago to show, according to Mansfield, that it's no 104 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: surprise someone would fall asleep during a meeting. Two more 105 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Auglandire staff took to the stand next. Both declined to 106 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: be filmed and recorded as well. Janet Wigmore, a registered 107 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: nurse and the clinical services manager, has worked there for 108 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: nineteen years. She's the one that found the meth pipe 109 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: just inside the door of the RETINALD laser room during 110 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: a routine check of the clinic before work started. Two 111 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: people were with her. There was a glass pipe and 112 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: a lighter, she remembered. She told operations manager Tracy Molloy, 113 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: who later testified as well about the discovery. She reiterates. 114 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Polkinghorn was one of several people to have visited the 115 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: clinic that weekend before the paraphernalia was found. He went 116 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: in during the day and then again about eight pm 117 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: on Saturday, then back again on Sunday. CCTV captured him 118 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: walking down the corridor with a man and woman at 119 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the weekend. Defense lawyer Ron Mansfield asked whether the pair 120 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: were patients. She didn't know. Jeremy Hill was called to 121 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: the stand. He's an operations coordinator at the Drug Detection 122 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Agency in Auckland. In twenty twenty one, he was a 123 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: testing technician. They do workplace testing for drug analysis, including 124 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: on site screening. We've already heard from Deborah Boyd that 125 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: she arranged for meth testing at Auckland Ay in July 126 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Hill had to wait until the clinic 127 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: closed because they wanted to do a confidential test. He 128 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: took swabs of several rooms, taking away fourteen swabs in total, just. 129 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: Looking for different areas in different rooms, so depending always 130 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: in the room and how well it was used. I 131 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: taggered the same. 132 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: Sort of areas, what sort of areas are they usually? 133 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: So usually it's some high touch point areas, so things 134 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: like light switches, keyboards, phones that are used day and 135 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: day out with touching their hands. Or high airflow areas, 136 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: so things like ear vents, air filters, HVAC systems, so. 137 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: Arranged just depending on what just arrange here. 138 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: Crown Prosecutor Pep McNab walked Hill through all of the 139 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: swabs taken, where they were swabbed, what object, what room. 140 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: The samples were sent to a Hamilton lab for testing. 141 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Of all of the samples, there was one particular area 142 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: with a level of concerning contamination. That was the heat 143 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: pump grill in consult Room four, a consult room which 144 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: could be used by anyone but one which Polkinghorn used often. 145 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Rod Mansfield questioned readings Hill did after another company cleaned 146 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: the practice. He came back in September when several swabs 147 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: came back with a positive result, including a printer tray 148 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: in consult Room four. It had a reading of one hundred, 149 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: much higher than the other readings in July or September. 150 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: Pep McNab clarified a couple of things. 151 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 3: Just briefly, mister Hill, you said that in September twenty 152 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: twenty one when you did the second lot of testing, 153 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: the printer had the result of one hundred micrograms. Was 154 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: that printer tested the first time in July twenty twenty one. 155 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Not for coverage of other news events in New Zealand, 156 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: listen to the front page The Herald's daily news podcast 157 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Margaret Skelton is a forensic 158 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: accountant for the New Zealand Police. She took to the 159 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: stand as an expert witness, having been tasked with analyzing 160 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Hannah and Polkinghorn's financials. She started her testimony at the 161 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: end of day sixteen, before returning on day seventeen. Skelton 162 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: was given an z and ASB bank statements as well 163 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: as some other information about different trust accounts and funds. 164 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a bit of a two way street really. 165 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: You'd find out, you know, where the investigation was going 166 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: in a general sense. But when I analyzed bank statements, 167 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: no matter you know what it's relating to, you tend 168 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: to look for certain time transactions. So in this case, 169 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: I identified transactions to accounts of payees that were frequent 170 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: or common in the bank accounts. 171 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: She would pass on names to police of people who 172 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: came up regularly in the records, she looked at their 173 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: individual accounts, joint accounts, credit and debit cards. A joint 174 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: account was where Hannah's salary was paid. 175 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: Were you able to distill who appeared to be the 176 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: daily user of that account or the regular user of. 177 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: That account primarily her? The spending that I saw and 178 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: it were of the everyday type of expenses parking, coffees, lunch, groceries, 179 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 4: things like that. 180 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: Could you tell between users of the account once or not? 181 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: Well, you can when it comes to internet banking transfers 182 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: and bank cards because because if you are for in 183 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: case of a debit card, it'll have a number, and 184 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: on ASB bank statements those card numbers are displayed so 185 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: you can tell from the card number. 186 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: An ASB account is Brian Dicky's first focus, an account 187 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: solely operated by Polkinghorn. As well as monthly pension payments 188 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: and fortnightly payments from National super there was a regular 189 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: weekly payment of five hundred dollars to an account named 190 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a Laria Family Trust starting in February twenty nineteen. Suffice 191 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: to say, Skelton's testimony was lengthy and involved a lot 192 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: of numbers different accounts, transfers and cash withdrawals. First off, 193 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: details of Polkinghorn's bank transfers to a litany of payees 194 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: or female became clear. 195 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 5: All right, and the next person, I think this, did 196 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 5: you've got here as medicine Ashton? 197 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: Correct? So my investigation revealed that there was. There were 198 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: transfers totaling one hundred and six, one hundred and thirty 199 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 4: one dollars made to Missession and the last payment was 200 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: on the fifth of January twenty twenty one. 201 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: So he gave one hundred and six thousand, one hundred 202 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: and thirty dollars to Australian sex worker Madison Ashton, with 203 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: whom prosecutors say he was living a double life between 204 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: February twenty nineteen and January twenty twenty one. Here are 205 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: some other transactions. Nearly thirty six thousand dollars from twenty 206 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty nineteen on a woman named Lee, who 207 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: was identified by Polkinghorn's barber earlier in the trial as 208 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: a mutual acquaintance sex worker, just over seventy two thousand 209 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: dollars between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one on a 210 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: woman named Jody sixty one thousand, eight hundred dollars between 211 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and twenty twenty one to a Northcote Point 212 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: resident named Ilaria, who was identified by her neighbors to 213 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: jurors as a sex worker who would receive frequent visits 214 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: from the surgeon. We heard that earlier in the trialer's work, 215 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: over thirteen thousand dollars between twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen 216 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: was spent on a woman named Kimberly, and just over 217 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars in twenty nineteen on a woman named Indra. 218 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: The total amount spent on women alone was two hundred 219 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: and ninety six thousand, six hundred and forty five dollars. 220 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Now we get onto cash with drawers in the year 221 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: from February twenty eighteen, they're about one hundred and twenty 222 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: with drawals from Australian ATMs, totally around one hundred and 223 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand New Zealand dollars. 224 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: So most as a result of my investigation, appeared to 225 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: be made when Miss Polkinghorn was not in Australia. I 226 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: was aware at that point that Possession lived in Australia 227 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: at the time, and in to eighty twenty nineteen from 228 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: this anzet account, mister Polkinghorn started making international transfers to 229 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: medicine Ashtionin and those cashwift drawels ceased and those payments 230 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: that the payments that were made were referenced in the 231 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: one hundred and six thousand that I mentioned earlier. 232 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: Skelton explained they can obtain people's travel records from immigration, 233 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: so she was able to compare the withdrawals to when 234 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: he was in New Zealand. Skelton took the court through 235 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: cash with drawals, So. 236 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: For twenty sixteen, just run through. 237 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: Those first plas. 238 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: Yes twenty and sixteen, cashwift draws from those three accounts 239 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: totaled thirty thousand, three hundred dollars twenty and seventeen. They 240 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: totaled twenty two thousand, three hundred and fifty dollars twenty 241 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: and eighteen. The total was thirty three thousand and fifty 242 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: dollars twenty and nineteen. Forty nine thousand, three hundred twenty 243 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: twenty was eighty five thousand, one hundred and In twenty 244 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: and twenty one, which is just to the end of 245 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 4: March twenty twenty one, the total was twenty one thousand dollars. 246 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: I went through what happened to the money from the 247 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: sale of the Pappatoy toy property that it earlier been 248 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: referenced in the trial. You'll remember it sold for about 249 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Skilton followed that money. First off, two 250 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: payments of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars went to 251 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: an investment and managed fund that Polkinghorn held. There was 252 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: also seventy two thousand dollars in transfers to his Australian account, 253 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: transfers to Kelly and Ashton, one hundred and fifty two 254 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollars paid to Ben Polkinghorn, his son, and twenty 255 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars spent on a Sanyong yute. 256 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: It took I think it was almost a year. Certainly, 257 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: by March twenty twenty one the account balance was back 258 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: at five thousand dollars. So it took a period of 259 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: time for the balance of the funds to be dispersed 260 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: on a variety of different smaller spending items. 261 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: But as you've said before, Adoptor Polkinhorn's the sole authority 262 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: on this particular account. 263 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: Quick, all right. 264 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I won't go through every detail of every account because 265 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: there are a lot you can read full testimony at 266 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: enzherld dot co dot nz if you're interested, but I 267 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: will know activity connected to an account called the Hannah 268 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Polkinghorn Trust. Funds would be transferred to it, say like 269 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a fortnight from Hannah's salary, and when 270 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: the account balance reached anywhere from eight to fifteen thousand dollars, 271 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: it'd be transferred to a joint ASB account, then dispersed 272 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: among accounts controlled by polking Horn, so. 273 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: That the Internet banking transfer is made from the Hannah 274 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 4: Polkinghorn Trust total three hundred and nine thousand, eight hundred. 275 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: They were authorized or conducted by mister Polkinghorn, and did. 276 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 5: All of that go to accounts ultimately over which he 277 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 5: was the soul. 278 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: Of foreign exactly, So if you lose all the noise 279 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: in between, it was going from joint accounts into accounts 280 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: that he controlled by himself. 281 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: That stopped happening at about twenty twenty, and by March 282 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, the balance in that account was about 283 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: forty four thousand dollars. That's something Skelton noted as being interesting. 284 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: She went on to explain how she knew who made 285 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: what transfers when we have an account number. We also 286 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: have a customer number. These customer numbers are unique to people. 287 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: From twenty nineteen to March twenty twenty one, there was 288 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: just over one hundred and ninety eight thousand dollars transferred 289 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: from an an Z account to Polkinghorn's Australian bank account. 290 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Skelton also referenced two accounts in Hannah's name. She opened 291 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: them in December twenty twenty. She said it's possible Hannah 292 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: opened to this account without Polkinghorn's knowledge, as is not 293 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: an authority on it. Skelton went on to establish the 294 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: couple's worth looking at their two properties, the Remuera one 295 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: and the one at rings Beach, their investment account, personal accounts, 296 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: and trust accounts. They were worth nearly ten point five 297 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: million dollars. Defense lawyer Ron Mansfield asked about when a 298 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: couple chooses to separate assets, No matter whose name they're in, 299 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: would be divided fifty to fifty, right, So it. 300 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: Doesn't really matter, does it? What name a particular essay 301 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: it is held in? 302 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: From that perspective, no, doesn't. 303 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 5: Matter what name a bank account was held in. No, 304 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 5: wouldn't matter whether someone was a signatory or wasn't a signatory. 305 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: When it comes to the attribution of money in the 306 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 4: bank account. 307 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: No. 308 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: He asked Skelton about the couple's wages on polling Hannah's salary. 309 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Her net's salary was about one hundred and fifty two 310 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars after tax deductions and key we Saver contributions. 311 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: Mansfield said it would equate to a salary of around 312 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: two hundred and eight two one hundred and twelve thousand 313 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: dollars if. 314 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: She so chose, say, for example, if she wanted to 315 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 5: separate or wanted to prepare to separate somebody, then she 316 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 5: could redirect that salary into another account, couldn't she Yes, 317 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: because that would be something that she would be able 318 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 5: to control immediately. 319 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: Yes, Well, you just tell your employer. 320 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: So even if they separated, Mansfield said, she was on 321 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: a comfortable salary that's before the division of assets, where 322 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: they'd both get about five point two five million dollars each. 323 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Skilton agreed. Mansfield takes her through various transactions from Hannah's 324 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: personal account, the one she set up in December twenty twenty. 325 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Trillie's cooper Rodney Wayne New World Farow fresh A pharmacy, 326 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: fruit and bed shop. 327 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 5: No payments to private investigators are there. No no payments 328 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: to matrimonial lawyers or solicitors. 329 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: No. 330 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: The trial continues tomorrow. 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