1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: It looks like share markets around the world have stabilized 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: after making those big losses over the last couple of 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: days or so. Over the last few hours, the nick 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: has bounced back. It's sitting almost ten percent higher than yesterday. Currently, 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Australia and South Korean markets are also up. The INSIDEX 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: had dropped early in trading since has since climbed back. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Matt Goodson is managing director at Salt Funds Management and 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: with us Now Hoy. 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Matt Afternoon Heat. 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: What's prompted the recovery? 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Look, I think yesterday's sharp move, especially in Japan, really 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: felt like force selling from funds that had too much exposure, 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 2: and we're just forced to do risk and so we've 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: just seen a bit of a natural rebound from that. 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: But the real weakness in Japan started a few days 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: ago when the central Bank finally hiked after years of 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: zero rates, moving up to a quarter of a point 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: in cash right and making some pretty hawkish comments about 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: the future. And that really a Japanese market had been 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: pretty strong all year of a yeen have been really weak, 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: and that just turned everything around. Market fell hard and 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: the yen really strengthened. 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Do you think this is the end of the jesses 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: or do we potentially have more to come. 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: Look, there's several different things going on at the moment, 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: so I think it's too early to say it's the end. 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: The biggest impact from Japan is actually the implications for 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: global markets. There's been a multi trillion dollar trade going 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: on for years, known as the carry trade, where people 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: have borrowed at zero in Japan, geared that up a 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: few times and invested in much higher yielding assets overseas. 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: I think American banks, Australian banks, those sorts of things. 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden they have to pay a 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: bit more to borrow that money, and more importantly, they 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: have to pay it back and much more expensive yen. 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, a lot of those carry 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: trades have been unwound. And that's why we saw well 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why we saw US and Australian 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: market's been really hard hur yesterday. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Matt, it's very good to talk to you. Thank you 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: so much for that, Matt Goods and Salt Funds Management 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Managing Director. 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: For more Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to News 44 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: Talk set B from four pm weekdays or follow the 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio,