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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Tyala Swift has dropped a music video for her mega

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Speaker 2: hit single Open Lights, and naturally, it's packed full of celebrities.

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Speaker 2: While promoting her album release on The Graham Norton Show

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Speaker 2: last year, fellow guest on The Red Couch Domald Gleeson

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Speaker 2: joked he would love to appear in one of her

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Speaker 2: music videos, and surprise, surprise, he's got a starring role

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Speaker 2: alongside the entire guest list from that night. So Cillian Murphy,

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Speaker 2: Greta Lee, Jody Turner Smith and Graham Norton too.

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Speaker 3: How about that right?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it is twenty two minutes to ten on News Talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd beat Francesca Rudkins, our film viewer. Third morning, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: two very very different films to talk about this morning.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about Malania in a moment.

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Speaker 2: We'll put that to the side for just a moment.

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Speaker 2: But I am really interested to hear about your first

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Speaker 2: pick for us this morning, because I've been waiting to

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Speaker 2: see it myself. Tell us about it was just an accident.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So this is another Oscar nominated film. It opened

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Speaker 4: the New Zealand International Film Festival last year, but now

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Speaker 4: it is back on general release and everybody can go

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Speaker 4: and enjoy it, and I really do recommend that you do.

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Speaker 4: It is a film by Iranian filmmaker Jaffar Panahi, and

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Speaker 4: he is very well known for creating heart felt human

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Speaker 4: stories about life in Iran. He does it all very

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Speaker 4: secretively because he's been banned from making films. He's even

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Speaker 4: been to prison for making films. He calls them social

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Speaker 4: films in the Iranian government likes to call them propaganda

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Speaker 4: against the state. So he made this film again sort

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Speaker 4: of very secretively, and you can tell when you're watching it.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of scenes set inside of cards,

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Speaker 4: or inside of bands, or in remote places or at night,

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Speaker 4: and you can tell that they've moved, had to move

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Speaker 4: very swiftly and very likely in order to make this film.

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Speaker 4: But it creates a sense of intimacy that you get

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Speaker 4: involved in it. The other magnificent thing about this film

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Speaker 4: is it deals with a very serious issue, but it's

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Speaker 4: a comedy jack it balances it out beautifully. It is

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Speaker 4: only an hour and a half long, which also in

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Speaker 4: the moment everything is you know, Marty Supreme and the

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Speaker 4: Secret Agent, all these other fantastic films that you won't

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Speaker 4: you be going into and you're two and a half hours.

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Speaker 4: This is this perfect little, this perfectly formed slight of

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Speaker 4: entertainment that also has this very deep kind of moral

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Speaker 4: question at its heart, which is can the victim of

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Speaker 4: a state sanctioned cruelty and torture find justice through vengeance

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Speaker 4: without losing their humanity? So basically we had this character.

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Speaker 4: He works, he is a mechanic and he's working in

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Speaker 4: his workshop and he hears this squeak of a customer

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Speaker 4: and it's his squeaky false leg and he recognizes this squeak.

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Speaker 4: Then he hears him speak, and he recognizes the voice

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Speaker 4: as the tormentor, a man who tormented him when he

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Speaker 4: was imprisoned, and he instinctively follows this guy and he

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Speaker 4: kidnaps him, and then he has to decide what to

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Speaker 4: do with him. Does he is it I for an

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Speaker 4: eye justice? Does he kill him or does he offer mercy?

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Speaker 4: And then he has this moment of actually, have I

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Speaker 4: got the right guy? So then he goes off and

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Speaker 4: searches for other people who can also clarify with its

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Speaker 4: right person. So we end up with this eclectic group

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Speaker 4: of people who have been through horrific experiences who come

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Speaker 4: there is a lot of comedy. Like at first, I

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Speaker 4: was like, this is really funny. I'm laughing out loud.

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Speaker 4: I'm laughing out like, yes, you absolutely should. It's just

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Speaker 4: this beautiful slice of entertainment and it's I'm so pleased.

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Speaker 4: I was very disappointed I didn't get the best picture

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Speaker 4: nod at the Oscars. I think we should have flipped

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Speaker 4: out if one and put this in there. That would

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Speaker 4: have made them. Then the universe will have been all

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Speaker 4: right in its place. But it really is very thought

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Speaker 4: provoking and highly entertaining and very timely film as well,

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Speaker 4: So I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, Yeah, extremely timely. I mean the US and

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Speaker 2: Iran have been having the negotiations overnight. But like you say,

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Speaker 2: like this filmmakers widely celebrated. But imagine trying to film

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Speaker 2: at the moment. It's just it's a remarkable achievement. So

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to seeing that that's it was

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Speaker 2: just an accident that showing in cinemas at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Next up, also showing in cinemas, this is Millennia.

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Speaker 5: Everyone wants to know, So here it is. Hi, mister President, Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Did you watch it?

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Speaker 5: I did not? Yeah, I will see it on the news.

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Speaker 3: That is, of course, the voice of Milania Trump, the

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Speaker 3: keenly anticipated, extremely expensive, executively produced by Milania Trump Millennia film.

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Speaker 4: And look for all the money that's been put into

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Speaker 4: all the money that's been put into publicity, this film

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Speaker 4: really just sort of slink into a few screens in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. There wasn't even an email about it. And

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Speaker 4: I decided to pop along on Monday, basically because it

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 4: Look, there's been a lot made about Millennia. How we

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Speaker 4: know it's her marriage? Okay? You know? It is all

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Speaker 4: these sort of little conspiracy sort of around her. And

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Speaker 4: I walked out of this film knowing very little more

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Speaker 4: She is making the most of her life. She is

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Speaker 4: doing things her own way. She is, you know, juggling

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Speaker 4: in a way that suits her. She has her time out.

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Speaker 4: She likes to go my logo and breathe, and you know,

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Speaker 4: you see her planning. This is twenty days. It basically

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Speaker 4: covers twenty days, or it's actually about thirteen, I think,

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Speaker 4: leading up to the inauguration. You see her planning the functions,

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Speaker 4: the dinners, the lunch is. Actually you see her planning

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Speaker 4: her outfits. She is incredibly decisive. She knows what her

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Speaker 4: controls that all and she's very very good at it.

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Speaker 4: But essentially, this is a film where we watch her

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Speaker 4: walking around slowly and steadily in stilettos, and we watch

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Speaker 4: her taking car rides and getting in and out of

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Speaker 4: things you need to do, and that really is about it.

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Speaker 4: Are some fascinating things. I liked being able to see

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Speaker 4: seen more inside Marilago, Like if you just want to

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Speaker 4: have a peek how the other half lives, it's quite interesting,

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Speaker 4: you know, And so I found that sort of quite interesting.

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Speaker 4: And there are there are moments where you see great

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Speaker 4: compassion from her, and she is a very articulate, compassionate person.

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Speaker 4: When she meets the wife of a hostel taken by

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Speaker 4: loss of her mother. So there is little moments that

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Speaker 4: people might relate, but really you're just seeing how the

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Speaker 4: other half lives, that's all. It's just it's it's propaganda.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful advertorial. You learn nothing. It's you know,

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Speaker 4: they had to fill all the gaps with this sleeping

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Speaker 4: music to try and kind of feel it and gether.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's very as far as the film goes,

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Speaker 4: it's very very average. But weirdly, Jack, weirdly I walked

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Speaker 4: out liking her a little bit more. I was like,

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Speaker 4: you are fine. You were doing things how you want

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Speaker 4: to do things and your own way. We don't need

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Speaker 4: to worry about you anymore. You just go about you

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Speaker 4: do you You just you're doing it the way you

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Speaker 2: But did they have anything about Slovenia.

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Speaker 4: No, not really. She talks a lot about being an

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Speaker 4: immigrant and her parents and what they contributed. She talks

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Speaker 4: a lot about what she wants to live a life

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Speaker 4: of purpose and style. She talks a lot about accepting

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Speaker 4: people no matter where they're from, always going to face

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Speaker 4: and there is as there's this little irony there that

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Speaker 4: the film does not sort of recognize the fact that

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Speaker 4: everything she sees is the complete opposite to what we

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Speaker 4: actually see coming out of the Trump administration. There's this

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Speaker 4: sort of there's this lack of awareness of how different

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Speaker 4: the views are. But look, I think I took it

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Speaker 4: all very I knew it was going to be a

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Speaker 4: light once over, and that's what it was, as I said,

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Speaker 4: a very average film. That it's not a huge amount

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Speaker 4: of reveal here or anything. Having to relive through the

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Speaker 4: entire inauguration, the twenty two days, that that was a

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Speaker 4: time I will never get back in my life again.

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Speaker 4: I didn't need to do that, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, at least you escape the humidity, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I got out of that ninety three late per supt

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Speaker 4: humidity for almost two hours. Very good yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Very good. That is what it is. Thanks so much, Franciscap.

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Speaker 2: That's Millennia. That's showing in cinemas now. New Zealand is

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Speaker 2: currently walking out in the opening ceremony of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six Winter Olympics. The flag bearers have kakahu on.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's in their puffa jackets, are a few pool Kunna

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Speaker 2: in there as well. They're waving away fantastic. They For

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Speaker 2: a moment, I was worried that we'd missed out because

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Speaker 2: I saw Nigeria and then I saw Norway and I

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Speaker 2: was like, hang on, I'm pretty sure in E comes

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Speaker 2: before in I comes before Ino. But no, it turns

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Speaker 2: out it was just the Italian spelling, So.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand has officially come out at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six Winter Olympic Games opening ceremony.

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