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Speaker 1: Scared Business. It's the fifth of August twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome all year Bespoke, you donkies to the Daily Bespoke podcast.

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Speaker 1: Just look at that one hundred meters one hundred meter

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Speaker 1: means hundred meter final and you know you've got You've

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Speaker 1: got Bloody. Yeah, Noah Lyle's winning it with nine point

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Speaker 1: eight seven Tony Lyle wasn't it? Was it? Tony Lyle? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Tony laugh.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's impressive because no offense at Tony. He

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Speaker 3: does look like he has that in him.

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Speaker 1: It does not look like you could run one hundred

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Speaker 1: meters and nine point eight seven seconds.

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Speaker 2: Mean, no, I'm going to put that one back in

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Speaker 2: the pocket. What I was about to say that is

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Speaker 2: not going to get anyone good feedback.

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Speaker 1: So noelh Lyles nine point eight seven and the Jamaican

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Speaker 1: Thompson he's nine point seven nins so nine points seven

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Speaker 1: nine seconds for Noel Liles, nine points seven nine seconds

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Speaker 1: for Thompson. Phenomenal. And then you've got Curly the American

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Speaker 1: third at nine point eight one. How life changing is

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Speaker 1: that the difference between So you've run it at the

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Speaker 1: same speed nine point seven nine, nine point seven nine

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Speaker 1: but Noel Lyles chest was slightly forward. So he's won

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Speaker 1: by one thousandths of a second. That, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: will some thousandths of a second? I'm not sure how many.

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Speaker 1: And now he's a gold medal winning athlete and the

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Speaker 1: other guys a silver metal one. But the difference for

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Speaker 1: their lives will be so very different. And you actually

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Speaker 1: wonder in your life the times when things happened that

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Speaker 1: was so close to happening, that didn't happen, or did

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Speaker 1: happen that have changed your life forever? Oh no, you

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Speaker 1: going the butterfly feed? Okay? Yeah, like the sliding doors situation.

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Speaker 1: I always think about Back of the Way, Masterpiece Television.

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Speaker 1: I just me and my friend Chris. We moved up

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Speaker 1: to Talklan. We started making the show on Triangle like

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Speaker 1: Wayne's World. We would just foolm each other in our

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Speaker 1: lounge at our flat and then we'd do stunts in

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Speaker 1: the car park, and it got popular on community television

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Speaker 1: back when they had community television. So we had to

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Speaker 1: pay you to be on Triangle Television.

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Speaker 3: Were you spending your were you spending like pocket money

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Speaker 3: that you guys had kind of picked.

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Speaker 1: I was working full time in real groovy records just.

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Speaker 3: So you get some screen time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how much?

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Speaker 2: How much would it cost you to get that?

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Speaker 1: On Triangle? It was five hundred dollars an episode. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot. Then I sold sponsorship to a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different people and so that sort of got the money

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Speaker 1: and keep it going. And then there was just a

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Speaker 1: particular person that watched the show, just happened to watch

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Speaker 1: it and then pitched it to TV and Z and

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Speaker 1: then we started doing arts reports or whatever. But if

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Speaker 1: that person hadn't seen that show and done that, then

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Speaker 1: my life would be very different, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had a media career because that everything

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Speaker 1: changed on that second, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like I might have had a media career, but it's

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Speaker 1: been a very different media career. So there's all these

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Speaker 1: moments in your life that you know, that person could

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Speaker 1: have been taking a shit at that point and not

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Speaker 1: turned on a wounding community, like who would flick over

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Speaker 1: to that channel?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that about what I'm doing right now.

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Speaker 3: As I went along to broadcasting school the open day,

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Speaker 3: because it may say that there was a good thing

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Speaker 3: nothing else to do, so I go along to that

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Speaker 3: and now look at me, same situation. I think that

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Speaker 3: about the sprints, though, when I watched the rowing, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's like a certain amount of like it almost felt

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Speaker 3: like where you are in the stride came down to

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Speaker 3: when the race is that close. It almost came down

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Speaker 3: to luck, which is kind of.

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Speaker 1: Almost because it's your tour. Though at one and thousands

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Speaker 1: of seconds, it also comes down to what breath you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it might be of the rowing. It's the

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Speaker 1: Nose where you are and your oh yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: right in your stroke and yeah, it's the difference, Yeah

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Speaker 1: you're if you're at the end of it and pushing forward,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to yeah, you bet it. Yeah under it's

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Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty freaky. I was talking to my son

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Speaker 1: at the moment, who's finishing school and he's got to

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Speaker 1: decide what he's going to do next year, and I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about it. You don't know what the right

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Speaker 1: decision is because there's these moments of and you definitely

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Speaker 1: make your luck by how hard you work and how

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Speaker 1: open you are to people. I think if you're a

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Speaker 1: constant asshole that does nothing and you sit in your room,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing online games, you're probably going to these

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Speaker 1: chances probably aren't going to pop up as much. You've

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Speaker 1: got to be out there in the world. I think,

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Speaker 1: communicating with many people as you can, and generally being

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Speaker 1: a good person, although good stuff does happen to bad people.

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Speaker 1: But you don't know, like you could do the exact

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Speaker 1: right thing, Like you could study all the way through

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Speaker 1: school and go to med school and then that's the

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Speaker 1: wrong decision. You know, that might not work out for

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Speaker 1: you for whatever reason. Or you could take a gap

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Speaker 1: year and then you just meet the right person go

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Speaker 1: into business with them, or you follow you dream. For

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Speaker 1: eight years, I was listening to Bill Simmons. He was

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Speaker 1: talking about how everyone thinks he was a success overnight

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Speaker 1: and he goes he ate shit. He said, he ate

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Speaker 1: shit for ten years writing little articles that no one read.

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Speaker 1: He was working in bars and writing these sports articles

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Speaker 1: where he was mixing pop culture with sport, and everyone

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Speaker 1: was like, you suck, piss off. No one wants to

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Speaker 1: mix those two things. And then suddenly he got the

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Speaker 1: ESPN thing. And then he got fired from that and

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Speaker 1: then started The Ring a Verse and recently sold it

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Speaker 1: to Spotify for what was it two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: But I mean there are to know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he has he should have quit after

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Speaker 1: took one year because it was a stupid thing to do.

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Speaker 1: He just ate shit for years and years and years

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Speaker 1: and then was just in the game at the point

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Speaker 3: I mean, you and Well spoke about this when I

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Speaker 3: first met you guys. It was one of the early

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Speaker 3: podcasts that I remember sitting in on. But if you're not,

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Speaker 3: if you're not in a place where you can be

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Speaker 3: open to slightly weird things coming into your life from

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Speaker 3: you know, at any angle, then there's quite a good

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Speaker 3: joce that you'ren to miss out some pretty fucking incredible

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Speaker 3: things that happened like that opportunity why is ah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think one of those things is that,

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Speaker 1: like at parties and stuff, actually listening to people instead

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Speaker 1: of instead of you delivering your shit if you can,

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Speaker 1: and we will forget once we've had a thousand drinks

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Speaker 1: that not to just talk about ourselves, but so many

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Speaker 1: amazing things happen when you just ask someone what they

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Speaker 1: do and listen to their response. Yeah, and even they

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Speaker 1: might be boring the shit out of you for three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to focus on what you're going

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Speaker 1: Then five years, five years from now, that person texts

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Speaker 1: you and said, Hey, we meet at that party and

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Speaker 1: this is this thing that's happening, and I was wondering

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Speaker 3: That's also a slippery slope as well, because you might

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Speaker 3: get to the point where you're just never interested in anyone,

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Speaker 3: which is a very egotistic way to be, and that

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people shut up shop completely.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a lot of people out there that

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Speaker 3: go out to a party on a night and go

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Speaker 3: whatever anyone says to me right now, that's just going

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Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people that turn a party into

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Speaker 3: I know, it's like when you and I so medic

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Speaker 3: what do you what would you call that photo?

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Speaker 1: Photograph? Photograto getting photoed? Yeah, photograph.

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Speaker 3: We went to the we went to the Wars on

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Speaker 1: Get a photo blasted up.

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Speaker 3: But it was quite a big kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: And I posted it up with the very very well

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, I thought I saw that was a great caption. Again,

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Speaker 3: I remember when I first got my like, you know,

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Speaker 3: when I firsted like as I suppose it's now known

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Speaker 3: as influencing. It's a hilarious thing posting stuff on your

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Speaker 3: Instagram when you're used to trying to be anti it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm always very anti influencing. And then they

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Speaker 3: they were very nice and they helped me out financially

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Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, And then you're posting

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Speaker 3: it and you're trying to find ways to still be

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Speaker 3: like anti your own posting is.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, you run fifteen levels of irony on

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Speaker 1: top of it to try and defend yourself, but you're

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Speaker 1: still taking the money and you're still like when I

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Speaker 1: was doing the Wall to War, where I was I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I would have to do so much.

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Speaker 1: I did a picture it would take me three hours

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Speaker 1: because I was like trying to think of the levels

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Speaker 1: of irony I could hide behind and still take the money.

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Speaker 3: Because the idea initially was great. Yeah, but at the

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Speaker 3: You have sucked this up already.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is so genuine. That's about how he feels

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Speaker 3: the honesty is too much. It should be a humiliating song. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It'd be like the Lewis Hamilton autobiography. Yeah, if anyone's

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Speaker 1: But that I think that you can you don't have

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Speaker 1: And so we're having a great day. Come on, you know,

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Speaker 3: The meaning, Like I know what you're saying here, because

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Speaker 2: And my whole thing was that I was going to

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Speaker 2: that night, So yeah, I guess the thing is you can.

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Speaker 1: That's terrible. What I did there was terrible. That's exactly

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Speaker 2: But my point is that, yes, you can get yourself

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Speaker 1: What I find horny is an emotion I can get

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Speaker 3: You haven't thought about that.

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Speaker 1: And it's sort of about a community, and it was

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: If we talk all over it, probably it's fine for

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Speaker 4: This is the first day of my life on a sort.

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Speaker 3: Something everything changed.

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Speaker 1: my life by bright Eyes. But it's just something about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he's that line, you know, like when

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Speaker 1: he decides he really loves this woman, and he talks

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Speaker 1: about how it might not work out and all this

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but he feels like he was born

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Speaker 1: in the moment that she arrives, you know, something quite

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Speaker 1: freaking genuine about it. But maybe he's putting on a

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Speaker 1: bit of a funny voice. I don't know, but that song,

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Speaker 1: for some reason, that song gets me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way I feel about, like, if I

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Speaker 3: want to have a bit of an emotional time to

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Speaker 3: a song, Kat Steve just thinking of father and.

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Speaker 1: Could you hit a more genuine, deep freaking song.

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Speaker 3: I can't even put that song on it and in

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Speaker 3: casual sitting anymore because I'll be just been that guy

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Speaker 3: in the corner that's starting to really go into his

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Speaker 3: own head and start thinking about his relationship with his father,

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Speaker 3: which is just a little bit too much for a

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Speaker 3: party Hemisphere. That's not a song that I think of.

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Speaker 2: We had going Deep again when my father passed away

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Speaker 2: in September last year, and we were pretty on songs

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Speaker 2: for him to listen to because we were aware for

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Speaker 2: the last sort of five or six hours what was happening,

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Speaker 2: and so we'd find songs that we thought he'd enjoy

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Speaker 2: because he was still awake and everything. He just couldn't

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Speaker 2: tell us what songs he wanted, which was quite fun

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Speaker 2: because I just wanted to go, what do you want

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Speaker 2: to hear? But he was enjoying what we're putting on.

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Speaker 2: And we put on some Cat Stevens and I saw

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Speaker 2: father and son on it, and I was like, I can't.

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Speaker 2: I cannot even put that on because I knew everyone

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Speaker 2: in the room would break.

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Speaker 3: It'll be too Did you fire it up?

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Speaker 1: Did you? No? We didn't.

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Speaker 2: We had Morning Is Broken was in there, yep? And

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Speaker 2: peace Train.

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Speaker 3: I think peace Train is a little bit more of Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I've got this hit of this one more for us.

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Speaker 3: Before we wrap things up.

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Speaker 1: I'll just if I can work this out here just

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Speaker 1: second lift.

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Speaker 3: We're in a podcast, mate, there's no rush. We can

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Speaker 3: just float around for as long as we want.

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Speaker 1: People just leave us on.

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Speaker 2: And just how close you met?

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Speaker 1: How close are you?

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Speaker 2: Let's not make it late, No, because I've got a

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Speaker 2: little story I could inject. Okay, cool, cool, because something

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Speaker 2: that I think is funny about meanings of songs is

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Speaker 2: then you think about Champagne Soup and Over by Oasis,

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Speaker 2: and Noel Gallagher has said, I have no fucking idea

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Speaker 2: what that song's about. But I look out and I

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Speaker 2: see these shirtless British white pale gits singing and every

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Speaker 2: single one of them has an idea what the song

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Speaker 2: is about to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. This is the play this to play

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Speaker 1: this a few times because this makes me cry. And

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Speaker 1: this is when I went to father and Son with

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Speaker 1: my son and we sang father and Son together. My

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Speaker 1: face I was my face, I pissed out of my

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Speaker 1: son face so hard. You've got a blast. This is

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Speaker 1: too much. And so this is this is him recording

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Speaker 1: that he did for Father's Day for me when he

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Speaker 1: was already eight years old.

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Speaker 2: Two itch not time?

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Speaker 1: Oh what does it stop?

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Speaker 3: Jesus?

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Speaker 1: That song that always gets me.

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Speaker 3: There bit of audio because that because Charlie.

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Speaker 1: That's Charlie and he's how old now he's seventeen? Now,

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Speaker 1: oh god, to fucking just one second. I just have

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Speaker 1: to get it to blasphemy and the ass. It's like

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that. That's yeah. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: everything nothing on this computer ever works when you need it.

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Speaker 1: That sounds about hello, get all right, okay, well that's

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Speaker 1: sort of on the moment. Just once you're going to say,

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Speaker 1: let's see if it will play here, I'm just miss.

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Speaker 4: Two three. It's not time to make a change. Just

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Speaker 4: blast still ju that your phone, hill bunch. You have

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Speaker 4: to know, find a girl shadow down if you want,

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Speaker 4: you can mad be you'll get me. I am, but

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Speaker 4: I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I was once like you wander embarrassed. Thats talking over

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Speaker 1: at the background.

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Speaker 4: It's not easy to be calm when you find.

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Speaker 3: Shopping you.

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Speaker 4: Wanted to come in by line shadow down, allow that

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Speaker 4: kind think of everything. You're just behead to marble.

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Speaker 3: But your deep came not.

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Speaker 1: It went out.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: So for me, when my son is at the age

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Speaker 1: now we're what it says in that song about how

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Speaker 1: your son has to go Jesus Christ. That that hits

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Speaker 1: me hard and the fact he doesn't have that lisp anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's a lovely note to finish it on genuinely next

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Speaker 3: years it was a good podcast that.

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Speaker 1: Wells here to just you know, love the lower the

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Speaker 1: tone be a creep. You know, we can actually you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin that moment with having a

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Speaker 1: go with someone, but you know what I mean, Jerry

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Speaker 1: would Jerry glazes over whenever you get into anything that's

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Speaker 1: slightly deep. The robot, yeah, he goes if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: have dollar signs on the end of it is you know,

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Speaker 1: actually know, Jerry's a lovely guy. He's probably one of

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Speaker 1: my most sincere, lovely human beings he ever met. I can't,

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't belave it running about like that.

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Speaker 3: My challenge for you bespokey dokies tonight, go out there,

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Speaker 3: find some moments of genuine happiness and put.

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Speaker 1: The put the stylist on the actual record, and if

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Speaker 1: you can any moments you can do that? Should you?

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Speaker 1: All right? Okay, all right you seem since here. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let you go. It's hugged all right, bye, love

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Speaker 1: you guys. Hello, I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening

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Speaker 1: to the Matt and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now

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Speaker 1: helps myself and Jerry and to a lesser extent, mess

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Speaker 1: and Ruder. If you want to discuss anything raised in

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Speaker 1: this pod, check out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry

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Speaker 1: let you go. Bless Blessed, blessed. Give them a taste

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Speaker 1: of key we from me,