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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning this six after five. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: your Friday morning. Could our mortgagees be getting a seventy

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Speaker 2: look at that. Just before six this morning, Doughtie al

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Speaker 2: Fayed's dad Muhammad is accused of rape by who and how?

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Speaker 2: This is all at Harold's. Apparently the former All Blacks

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Speaker 2: captain Ian Kirkpatrick is with us ahead of tomorrow's game

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Speaker 2: and jury trials the judges, which one are you more

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Speaker 2: likely to get off under? It's sonata bit we because

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Speaker 2: we speaking of a barrister. In a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 2: it is seven up to five.

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Speaker 3: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: Israel's carried out a new wave of attacks against his

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Speaker 2: villa target in Lebanon, killing at least thirty seven people.

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Speaker 2: Also flying warplanes over Beirute the capitol, all caught on

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Speaker 2: CNN as someone was doing a live cross hell is

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Speaker 2: Reli air plane overhead. Okay Eleni, there's an Israeli fighter

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Speaker 2: jet flying dropping flares. His son ISRAELA this is the

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Speaker 2: haz Buller leader has spoken. He says that Israel has

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Speaker 2: crossed all the red lines over the pager and walkie

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Speaker 2: to wait and see what happens there. The cooks Strait

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Speaker 2: still cooks bluebridges. Connie mar A fairy lost power overnight,

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Speaker 2: on that soon. A new Washington Post poll out has

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Speaker 2: Trump and Harris in a statistical tie. In the King

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Speaker 4: Do you believe No, I believe she's out there saying

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Speaker 2: That she can try to get presidency.

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Speaker 5: The settlement around this whole region is nobody believes that.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe anybody in that administration. The walkie talkies

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Speaker 2: that blew up in Lebanon, well, turns out they were

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Speaker 2: made by a Japanese company who says we had nothing

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Speaker 2: were discontinued ten years ago. They reckon they must have

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Speaker 2: been booby traps. Eight after five on.

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Speaker 3: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan

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Speaker 3: Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bids and a

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Speaker 2: US Talk said be so, if you're just joining us,

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Speaker 2: good morning. It's Friday. And the Connie Mara, this is

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Speaker 2: a Blue Bridge ferry blacked out and drifted for two hours.

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Speaker 2: And they said, oh, it's okay because it's not drifting

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Speaker 2: towards show, it's drifting out to the ocean. Well cold

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Speaker 2: reacting to the Fed's double whammy rate cut yesterday. So

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Speaker 2: Dog Zidby thirteen after five, there's a group called White

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Speaker 2: Dudes for Harris who are supporting Kamala Harris, including Jeff

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Speaker 4: So I think we're all pretty sick of hearing how

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Speaker 2: Does that make anyone else cringe? And what happened to

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Speaker 2: the good old days when actors and musicians would just

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Speaker 2: you know, sing and act ray and bridge. The government

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Speaker 2: wants to reduce the number of jury trials to address

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Speaker 2: backlogs in the court system. So to do this, to

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Speaker 2: will speed the whole thing up. Philip Morgan is Casey

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Speaker 6: I meanly, I approad anything to try and to produce

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Speaker 2: Okay, what is the hit rate? Guilty v? Not guilty?

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Speaker 2: Jury verse judge? You know, what do you advise your clients?

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Speaker 6: There isn't an answer to rate, And what I tend

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Speaker 6: there's no real advantage to a defendant in deciding to

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Speaker 6: certainly in terms of your initial election, where do you

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Speaker 2: You can get some benefits by doing that, can't you?

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Speaker 2: If you pick judge alone, do you have to do

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Speaker 2: And that's part of the problem, isn't it, Because that's

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Speaker 2: That's Philip Morgan case with us. He's say barrister talking

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Speaker 2: the backlog in our court system, because, as they say,

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Speaker 2: justice delayed is justice denied. Seventeen minutes after five, news

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be really interesting story out of Sweden

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Speaker 2: five point thirty. You know Greta Thunburg, she was the

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Speaker 2: five thirty. Right now, the All Blacks are facing a

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Speaker 2: It's been almost two weeks since the back to back

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad we've got you on the line. And

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Speaker 2: how do you rate raise us so far? How's he doing?

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Speaker 7: Oh, look, he's had a you know, he's got the

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Speaker 7: I think that, you know, the teams, I don't think

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Speaker 7: you'd picked a better team than this, I would have thought.

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Speaker 7: So it's really how they come out on the day

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Speaker 3: International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: You taught to be just got one quarter to six now.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray is our UK and Europe correspondent. Five women

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Speaker 2: Muhammed al Fayed, of course, father of Dodie al Fayed.

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Speaker 8: Gavin, Yes, indeed, run so. Muhammed al Fayed was a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he did. The UK prisoners that were released as

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what a very very good question, Ryan. Many of

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Speaker 2: Ken that is the dumbest thing I've heard this morning, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that, Kevin Gray, who's our

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Speaker 5: Nick, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon? Well, what does it affect what

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Speaker 5: No, it doesn't. The Reserve Bank will be cutting anyway.

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Speaker 2: How soon do you reckon? We'll get to that three percent.

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Speaker 5: If they cut at a quarter percent every single meeting.

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Speaker 2: Potential for a fifty basis point cut. How does the

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Speaker 5: Well, it does mean that you have this chance that

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Speaker 2: Immigration. How worried are you about because obviously it props

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Speaker 5: Well, from an inflation point of view, it's probably potentially

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Speaker 2: All Right, Nick, thank you very much for that update.

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Speaker 3: Sex Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: So you know you're a young person, you want to

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Speaker 2: maybe do a ram raid, something like that. There's a

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Speaker 2: teenager in New York who's just elevated this to a

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Speaker 2: whole new level and stolen a subway train. She and

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Speaker 2: her friend She's seventeen years old, from Queen's, New York.

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Speaker 2: They accused of entering and operating the train, then causing

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Speaker 2: a collision, so basically a joy ride and then a

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Speaker 2: crash in a subway train. The best part of the story.

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Speaker 2: These surveillance images released by police showed one suspect dressed

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Speaker 2: fully in pink, including a shower cap, and a second

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Speaker 2: person wearing blue blue still on the run. Pinky has

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Speaker 2: been caught. It is eight to.

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Speaker 9: Six on the program. In fact, you do too. I

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Speaker 9: look through the double glazing at Oldly.

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Speaker 10: Oh there, and they need what you would loosely call

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Speaker 10: god idance, Yeah, as to as to as to what's

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Speaker 10: acceptable and what's not acceptable. And I'll put this out

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Speaker 10: there now, seeing you if you've made this so public,

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Speaker 10: little Sammy, Little Sammy said the in fact was was

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Speaker 10: it not? The first thing he said to me this morning.

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Speaker 2: Was like an excited puppy exactly.

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Speaker 10: And what I like to do is start the day

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Speaker 10: on a positive note. And so we and so the

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Speaker 10: first thing he goes is, hey, Helen Clark's available, So

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Speaker 10: that immediately puts me in a bad mood, and I said,

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Speaker 10: really is she how exciting? He goes, now, what time

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Speaker 10: would you like her? And I go, well, not today,

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Speaker 10: I said, let's I did say, let's get her on

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Speaker 10: the show and see what sort of text feedback we'll

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Speaker 10: get on that.

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Speaker 2: It's already come in because she was in the news.

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Speaker 9: I haven't said, I cannot see the screen. Correct me

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Speaker 9: if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 10: Has the text said? Does the text say something like

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Speaker 10: why would you bother pulling it?

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Speaker 9: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: And where is a doern? She did too?

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Speaker 9: Exactly?

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Speaker 10: So you'll be pleased to know that we do not

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Speaker 10: have if you next two, we do not have Helling

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Speaker 10: Clark on the program.

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Speaker 9: I thought, you know, I know what.

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Speaker 10: I said to Sammy. I said, that'll come up in

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Speaker 10: your annual review, and it's not going to go well.

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Speaker 2: For you because she I mean, she is a former

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister of New Zealand. She was head of the UNDP.

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Speaker 10: Sokay, you spend some time with Sammy after the show,

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Speaker 10: because clearly you were closed out and what he wanted

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Speaker 10: to replace was the interview on a vaccine that potentially

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Speaker 10: is one going to revolutionized New Zealand economy, if not

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Speaker 10: the global economy, if not the climate change, if not

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Speaker 10: the entire rural sector.

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Speaker 2: I said, sure, Sam, it could have been a story

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Speaker 2: about someone stubbing their toe and you would have sold

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Speaker 2: it just like this.

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Speaker 9: If it was a stubbing the toe story, he might

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Speaker 9: have had a point. But he doesn't have a point.

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Speaker 10: So the good news is Will Jordan is on Helen

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Speaker 10: Clark isn't all right?

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Speaker 2: Everyone, have a great weekend. I will see you on Monday.

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Speaker 3: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be five to six. Lots of people say, actually,

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Speaker 2: leave Lester Levy alone. He is doing the job of

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Speaker 2: Commissioner of Health New Zealand but also doing a couple

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Speaker 2: of days a week lecturing at a university and says,

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Speaker 2: I have done that before. He's doing seventy hours a

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Speaker 2: week in his house role. What more can you ask

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Speaker 2: of him? Mike Cosking is in the studio, He's with

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Speaker 2: you next night. Tend to agree.

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Speaker 9: I've done the numbers.

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Speaker 10: So if you say, he said ten to twelve hours

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Speaker 10: a day, so let's give him ten and you do

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Speaker 10: that for a seventy hour week, you do. I can't

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Speaker 10: remember it was three thy three hundred and something hours

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Speaker 10: in the year. That rolls out at ninety five for

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Speaker 10: three hundred and twenty thousand dollars that rolls out at

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Speaker 10: ninety five dollars now.

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Speaker 2: Also, he's not running Health New Zealand. That's Auntie Arper's job.

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Speaker 2: He's just basically a.

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Speaker 10: Direct He's a consultant who's looking at what's going on

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Speaker 10: how to fix it. So if you're putting in that

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Speaker 10: many hours for that amount of money at ninety five

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Speaker 10: dollars now because the media always get angsty about that stuff,

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Speaker 10: you know, I mean ninety five dollars now, my head

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Speaker 10: dressed charges more than that.

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Speaker 9: So and this is a guy running the whole publicize.

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Speaker 2: Also, he's on three twenty, but Tory's on one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety.

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Speaker 9: Exit but she can't make ends meet. You've got to

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Speaker 9: sell a car to board thing.

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow. It's beautiful, says it. Oh.

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