1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Got gang trouble in Hawk's Bay. A gang conflict warrant 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: has been in about twenty six times since Thursday, which 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: has led to eight to rest. It's the mong via 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: the Black Power, three shootings and forty eight hours if 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: you can believe at the police, Minister Mark Mitchell with 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: it's very good morning, good onding, Mike. So the response 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: so far in its effect on these gang conflict warrants, 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: do they work? 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And look you know the police both in 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Tairafi and in the Eastland Police, they're outstanding at getting 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: on top of the gangs. Obviously there's been a bit 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: of conflict based on wire and they've responded quickly and 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: getting on top of it. 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Does it build or is it just explode? 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes it can build. It can be just one incident 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: that sort of starts to build tension between the gangs. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: The real hea of it. You know, us as a 18 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: government have said that we're not going to tolerate that anymore. 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: So the expectations is this police. There's quick and decisive 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: police action and that's exactly what's happened here. 21 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Are you disappointed that you've still got to use these warrants, 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: that these people are still going out and shooting each 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: other and they haven't got the message or are they 24 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: just beyond them? 25 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: No, I hate it. I mean me personally, I hate it. 26 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: When I was my own police and career, when I 27 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: was in Gismond as a dog can and I was 28 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: often sent down to war or to help deal with 29 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: this stuff, and it's tough, very tough on the community. 30 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: We've obviously got a zero tolerance from it as government, 31 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: and we're working on starting suppressing get rid of it 32 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: in our country, but it just takes time. 33 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Have you got the resource on the coast, Yeah. 34 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: They have got the resource. I was thinking about that 35 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: actually in the last couple of days and just talking. 36 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: I hate talking about when I was in the job, 37 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: but I do remember going down there. There was myself 38 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: and the senior sergeant to deal with they again a 39 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: situation where they connect to young girls and we're raping them. 40 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: There was two of us to deal with it with 41 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: about thirty game members. So with our police are in 42 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: a much better position now. They do have the numbers, 43 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: they have the powers, they're asserting themselves outstanding leadership. Like 44 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: I said, down there, they're doing a great job. 45 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Good this investigation that you'll be aware of this morning. 46 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: The police have launched into this. Allegedly you're letting people 47 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: through without the fitness test. Is this true? 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Look that is in terms of has there been any 49 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: pressure from the government, there's been a very clear target 50 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: set by the government and the funding and the support provided. 51 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: There's definitely no interference around standards that is operational effect, 52 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: quite the opposite. Both myself and Casey Costello, who both 53 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: were police officers, ourselves are very adamant about the attention 54 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: of standards and I find it a bit rich hearing 55 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: the Labor Party come out when in twenty seventeen they 56 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: dropped the swimming standard, they dropped standards around low level 57 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: offenses drink driving and drugs offenses. That meant that seventeen 58 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: percent of applicants went through instead of nine percent. Have 59 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: we haven't dropped any standards at all. We've been adamant 60 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: about the fact that we don't want to do that. 61 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: You know, we've we've got a world class police service. 62 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: It's important that we retain that. But you know, obviously 63 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: there was three that went through that hadn't reached the 64 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: fitness standard. The police are looking at that and that's 65 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: the right thing to do. 66 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: If there's more than three, have we got a scandal? 67 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: No, not at all. I just think that. I mean, 68 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: like I said under labor, which by the way, I 69 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: at the time said, look, they shouldn't be doing that. 70 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: They dropped the swimming standard, and they said the reason 71 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: why they dropped it is because they trained them at college. 72 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: They'd get them up to speed at college. So you 73 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: know there's precedent for that. We don't want to do that. 74 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: We've been very clear that we don't want to drop standards. 75 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: Every conversation that I've had with the executive, I've been 76 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: very clear about that. I know, like I said to you, 77 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: when I joined myself, I didn't know. I had to 78 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: learn how to type, which meant that helped me find someone. 79 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: I went out and I learned how to type, so I. 80 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Could I having seen all of that, though, if they 81 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: have been let through, who would have let them through? 82 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: And how does this happen? 83 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that that will be on a ground level. 84 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: So they'll go back and they'll have a look at that. 85 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: But the one thing I did want to say, Mike 86 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: is that there's lots of people. There's police officers all 87 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: around the country that are trying to recruit out of 88 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: their own communities, and they identifying young people as they 89 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: come through school and they're giving them additional help to 90 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: make sure that they do reach those standards. They're doing 91 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: outstanding work. So you've got three cases here. The police 92 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: have said they'll go back and have a look at it, 93 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: but you know from my experience getting around the country, 94 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: they're doing a really good job and identifying good applicants 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: in a strong popeline of people coming into the police. 96 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. See you Wednesday, Mark Mitchell Police Ministry. 97 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 98 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 99 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.