WEBVTT - Good luck, Sven! (6 May 2025)

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Marcus Lush Night's podcast from News Talks, i'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Be increasing's welcome people if you're in Marcus here till twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it's good where you are. I hope if

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<v Speaker 2>it's not good, it gets better by midnight. That's my plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it's your plan. Probably a two topic night tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the obvious topic and the unobvious topic. But I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to say, and I want there to

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot to say about social media for under sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteens and under under sixteen. And I guess that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>jammed the talkback earlier on today, But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably a fair bit to say about that, both

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<v Speaker 2>from people who think it's a good idea or a

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<v Speaker 2>bad idea, and also from people's experience with people and

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<v Speaker 2>their family and their how can I say it are,

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<v Speaker 2>their experience with social media for people under sixteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume pretty much most of it is bad unless

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<v Speaker 2>your child has become some sort of social media phenomenon

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<v Speaker 2>and might have made big coin internationally. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>in the long run that would probably be bad as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm kind of curious to know where you

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<v Speaker 2>are with it and if you support it, because even

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<v Speaker 2>though it's going to come out of the bat, I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine this will become policy because Labor seems keen and

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<v Speaker 2>National seems keen, and Australia has got it and seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be working well. I don't think they've brought it

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<v Speaker 2>in yet, but seems as though they've got the plan

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<v Speaker 2>to have it working fairly well. So Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how you enforce it, but I think probably National

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<v Speaker 2>has done it because it gets people talking and I

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<v Speaker 2>think probably it's a vote winner. That would be my

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<v Speaker 2>understanding is that people think, yes, it's a good thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think people really want to have the

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<v Speaker 2>hassle of trying to enforce it with their children. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's kind of And I've got children. I have children.

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<v Speaker 2>I currently have children. They are nine and eleven, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not naggy kids. But the eleven year old he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a cell phone, and I think, probably as

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<v Speaker 2>mates do, I think he pretty much knows he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get one anytime soon. He's pretty resigned to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the younger child wants a smart watch so he can

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<v Speaker 2>counter steps. Well, what steps?

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<v Speaker 3>And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally I'll count your steps for you. And that really

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<v Speaker 2>annoys him because every time he walks our counter of

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<v Speaker 2>steps and he doesn't like that at all. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's twelve steps there, shut up there, that's fourteen there.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you wanted your steps. Do you not like that? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people would buy the children smart

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<v Speaker 2>watches to go out this well, I know why they'd

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<v Speaker 2>buy smart watches to go out their steps. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they get the contective So I talked to the children

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<v Speaker 2>about getting a pager. I said to the eldest one,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want a pager? Dad? I'd rather have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>than a pager. I don't think they realized quite how

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<v Speaker 2>flash on a hippopager looks you look like you're a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor doing heart transplants or something, or a drug dealer

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<v Speaker 2>off the wire. So yeah, they went that keen on

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<v Speaker 2>the pager either. So yeah, So I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>be having a smartphone anytime soon. I can imagine there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably people want the children to have cell phones because

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<v Speaker 2>parenting's busy these days. They do a lot of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's things in the morning, there's things after school, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting picked up at different times. It's more complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>They have busier lives. Whether that's good or bed I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but that just is. So parenting is a

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<v Speaker 2>taxi driver in Australia told me once is mainly logistics.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're pretty well right, and if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a cell phone, the logistics becoming easy because you can

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<v Speaker 2>text them. And so I've also talked to the children

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<v Speaker 2>if they want a like a Nokia with snake, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not that key. They'd rather have no phone than

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<v Speaker 2>the phone that's just kind of done nothing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be more embarrassing in a phone than does nothing

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<v Speaker 2>than having no phone. So that's kind of what they're

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<v Speaker 2>resigned to, and they seem pretty resolved with it. So

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<v Speaker 2>where am I going with this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so what I think happens, because I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an expert on this, what I think happens is parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's how parenting works. I want to get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with me. I want to keep in touch with my child.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be able to text them when the

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<v Speaker 2>school bus breaks down or there's an excident I happen

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday on the Bluff Road. And I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get in touch with it. So I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what. I'm going to get a new phone. You

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<v Speaker 2>have my old phone, and that tends to be how

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<v Speaker 2>the younger people get smartphones. I think I'm right with

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<v Speaker 2>that one. So it's more about an ability to locate

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<v Speaker 2>and call them, and of course then the kids get

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<v Speaker 2>hooked on. And I don't know what the social media

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<v Speaker 2>band is going to be about. I presume it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be TikTok, Facebook, Instagram. They're the three I would

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<v Speaker 2>not allow for the other sixteens and that makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And naps and Snapchat. Tell me about Snapchat?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, oh yes, that's what. Snapchat's the one that

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<v Speaker 2>Seymour used. That's right, And there was some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>there was some sort of controversy about that you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it to children because I think Snapchat's got an element

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<v Speaker 2>of deceptiveness because you seen videos and then they disappear,

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<v Speaker 2>so there it's undiscoverable. I've never been anywhere there stapchat,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, no, that's not a good thing. So yeah, Snapchat, TikTok, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>and Instagram. I don't know what the others are. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they're talking about. I imagine the band would be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the band is in Australia, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I look, I guess what I need to say. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily think it's a bad idea. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably votes in it. I think probably. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>would be easier if parents enforced that. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>can see the vineage how parents get into it. Children

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<v Speaker 2>want a phone for location and doing things like that

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<v Speaker 2>and for getting in touch with each other. Next thing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're on TikTok or Instagram and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing about it, and I think we all

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<v Speaker 2>know about that, is that Facebook no sorry, is that

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<v Speaker 2>social media is incredibly time consuming. You can spend your

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<v Speaker 2>whole life on it, and it's probably the better things

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<v Speaker 2>that young people should be doing. Also, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>thing with social media is that you can It causes

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety and stress because you can be attacked, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can you know, all those things, you can be bullied,

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<v Speaker 2>and all those things happen on social media. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the neck. I certainly know. When we went

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<v Speaker 2>to intermediate school for the elder boy, they said the parent,

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher said, oh, look, we don't do we won't

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<v Speaker 2>do we won't deal with anything involved in social media

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<v Speaker 2>out of school. They're not interested. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a fair comment to so yes, that's the situation. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather it was parents that told that children

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't use it. But if it becomes a band,

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<v Speaker 2>that might make it easy for some parents. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really have a problem with it. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why nationals come up with I think nationals come up

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<v Speaker 2>with ex votes in it. But probably is the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing in some ways, isn't it. So your comments on

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<v Speaker 2>that would be fascinated. Also, may as the kids wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want a pager, do even know if you can still

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<v Speaker 2>get a page? So yeah, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>And also your experience, maybe some of them. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think of some good stuff that's happened to

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<v Speaker 2>children on social media. I can't think of anything. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't really think of a positive social media story. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember when I first started on Facebook, was quite exciting

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<v Speaker 2>your remade, old people and stuff like that, But those

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<v Speaker 2>experiences have long gone. Now you just get advertisements for

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<v Speaker 2>various things. I mean, some of them are interesting. You

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<v Speaker 2>do see some new products, but most of it to

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<v Speaker 2>waste of time and literally to waste of time, because

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<v Speaker 2>we all spend far too much time and that we

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<v Speaker 2>should Why is that I don't know algorithms, because it's compelling.

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<v Speaker 2>They know how our brains work, our brains full of

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<v Speaker 2>plastic microplastics. They know how they work, and they know

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<v Speaker 2>what they need to do to get us hopped. So

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<v Speaker 2>good luck with that. By the way, it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be drawn from the biscuit box to be voted on,

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<v Speaker 2>but then it would be a private members bill. I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine most people would vote for it. And also with

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Albanese and Australia the Labor Party, they're

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<v Speaker 2>into it. I reckon hip I would be into it also,

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<v Speaker 2>so the two would get together. It would probably pass.

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<v Speaker 2>It could well be policy next year anyway, I can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine as they're getting ready for the debate next year

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<v Speaker 2>for the election twenty twenty six, and whoever is the

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<v Speaker 2>leader of both parties. But let's say it stays the

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<v Speaker 2>status quo, and Jenna or whoever they're moderator debate, says

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<v Speaker 2>lukso will you continue to ban will you still be

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<v Speaker 2>looking to ban social media? And he'll say yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll say to Hipkins, Will if Luxan's going to

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<v Speaker 2>ban it, what do you do? He'll probably say, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's merit in doing that. So I'm curious with your

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<v Speaker 2>opinions about that. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine

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<v Speaker 2>two nine two detext. The other thing I see it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a two topic night t t in

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<v Speaker 2>two topic night. The other thing I've been doing quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of reading about today is claw machines. Now

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<v Speaker 2>half of all games in Japan and video parlors are

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<v Speaker 2>claw machines. And they're the machines where you have that

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<v Speaker 2>grabber and the container and you direct the grabber and

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<v Speaker 2>it grabs something and you might win a soft toy

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<v Speaker 2>that's worthless, but you've won it, and you get a high,

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<v Speaker 2>that absolute high when it comes off and the grabber

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<v Speaker 2>gets it and gets it to the drop zone, you're

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<v Speaker 2>beside yourself with excitement. I stay well clear of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of think it's some form of gambling, although

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to have those band but I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated by them anyway, as you tend to be fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>by the things you avoid. But today I learned that

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<v Speaker 2>those grabbing machines. I was watching a video of a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that was at a factory and he was refilling

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<v Speaker 2>grabbing machines. Get this, he was refilling grabbing machines that

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<v Speaker 2>people played online. I had no idea you could do this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I went onto the websites. You can go to

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<v Speaker 2>any website or google it, and you can play those

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<v Speaker 2>claw machines from your cell phone and they will mail

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<v Speaker 2>the prizes to you. Who knew that he didn't and

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<v Speaker 2>who's doing it. That sounds buddy brilliant. So yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>get some piece of junk email currier to you three

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<v Speaker 2>months later. But wow, I had no idea you could

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<v Speaker 2>do it from your forget TIMU. Some of your people

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<v Speaker 2>could be hooked on those grabbing games. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they are engineered. They change the dials

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<v Speaker 2>so for months you don't win anything until they've made

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<v Speaker 2>the fortune. Then they can wound it up to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get you hooked again. Anyway, social media and kids

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<v Speaker 2>and grabbing machines. That's the two topics for tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm big on this particularly. Yeah, I think there's no

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<v Speaker 2>limit to where we could go with this. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>limit to the angle fangles on this one. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the texts already one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eleven, twelve, Get in touch, and also your family solutions,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure there's great battles. I mean, why would

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<v Speaker 2>a nine year old want to count as steps cheepers? Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to watch the Council of Steps, actually, but

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had the character tell him that. Nickots Marcus, welcome, Hello, greetings,

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<v Speaker 2>good evening.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, hi, hey, so you're talking about the grab machines.

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<v Speaker 5>Just a little story. Just forty years ago, I was

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<v Speaker 5>in I was in London and there was quite a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of these parlors and they had a few of

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<v Speaker 5>those machines. And I went to one of these parlors

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<v Speaker 5>and it was I think two p pieces that you

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<v Speaker 5>were supposed to put into the machine there and I

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<v Speaker 5>looked at them. About eighty percent of the coins are

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<v Speaker 5>in there from all over the world. Was in London,

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<v Speaker 5>was a very international place way back then, and there

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<v Speaker 5>was people from all nationalities and just looked at all

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<v Speaker 5>these coins. And I went to the manager. I said,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you do with his staring coins? He said said,

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<v Speaker 5>I got you know, I got baggs and I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I like to lick coins. I said, how about I

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<v Speaker 5>give you a two piece pizza? And I got how

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<v Speaker 5>I started my coin collects and I walked out with

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<v Speaker 5>about two hundred, you know, coins to all sorts of countries.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd hardly even heard of Allstar Africa in Asia and

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<v Speaker 5>what a great.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great story. And that's not even what and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not even what you rang up about that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the big top again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, I think that's interesting. With the

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<v Speaker 5>with the social media band. Funny. It was funny because

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<v Speaker 5>I thought about pages just a moment before you said.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, come home now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and my partner's saying, of course, come and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be bringing pages back. But the kids are just

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<v Speaker 2>shaking the head, thinking she's meant, you know, honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to have that here.

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<v Speaker 5>I sold dinosaurs.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh are you so?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a few on the band? You're okay

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<v Speaker 2>about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Or I had three three deads?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean if they can do it, I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it would be good. I mean sense of work. Well

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<v Speaker 5>in school was with the phone thing?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you know?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, have they implemented something?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's that they've passed the legislation, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it doesn't come into December. That's my that's

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<v Speaker 2>my recall. But look I will fact check that for you, Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that's the way it's gone. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>they probably Australia passed landmark laws in October, backing down

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<v Speaker 2>bending under sixteen. Some social media comes into effect in December. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I was right. The government faced a number of hurdles

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<v Speaker 2>before then. Good on them. Mail Alben Easy twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>past eight, Matt, it's Marcus.

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<v Speaker 7>Good evening, Good Marcus.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, my phone call kind of encompasses both topics. But

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<v Speaker 8>I saw on TikTok this guy had a hack for

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<v Speaker 8>winning a toy on the form machine every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, and what was the heck it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Hard to explain, but he was just he'd grabbed the

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<v Speaker 8>joystick thing and go andy clockwise around the circles, and

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<v Speaker 8>when the thirty seconds was up, the clare would automatically

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<v Speaker 8>come down, and every single time he would win, just

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<v Speaker 8>by jimming it around andy clockwise every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and any reasons why.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I didn't really get it far, but whatever, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would just go randomly into the middle, would it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they would do it by itself instead of you

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<v Speaker 8>pushing the button, and it would just lower it down

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<v Speaker 8>when once the time was up. And that's probably the

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<v Speaker 8>key to it, I guess, not pushing the button on

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<v Speaker 8>your own, leaving the machine or it after thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they kend of just the level of grabbing with

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<v Speaker 2>it too. I wonder if that happened after thirty second Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, could do something in it though, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll get onto that.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, yeah, yeah sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you want to say about social media as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I was just going.

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<v Speaker 8>To say I liked the idea because like under sixteen

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<v Speaker 8>seemed way too young to be on that. But how

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<v Speaker 8>on earth, like you said, were they police it?

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<v Speaker 4>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess you just I guess you need to

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<v Speaker 2>sign up to to Facebook, to Instagram, to TikTok or

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<v Speaker 2>to snapchat, and you just need proof of idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I would think like a student.

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<v Speaker 2>Id well, I mean they know your age, wouldn't they

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<v Speaker 2>go it is you chet gptai to look at your pictures?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>True, Well I think they should do it.

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<v Speaker 4>If they can do it would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nice to hear from you, Matt, Thank you, Claw

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<v Speaker 2>machines and social media band Beth Marcus welcome.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello Marcus. How are you this evening?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? Thank you Bet.

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<v Speaker 9>Both topics again, now that we studied the gravy machines,

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<v Speaker 9>the claw machines, and stage three statistics at UNI. And

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<v Speaker 9>there's an algorithm and they grab harder on the eleventh

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<v Speaker 9>or the assistance grab. It's built into the machine.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is random reinforcement. Is that right? So you

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<v Speaker 2>get more hooked? Yeah, I feel we did something similar

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<v Speaker 2>in Stage one psychology with the pigeon picking, and every

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<v Speaker 2>and every time when the pigeon got reinforced randomly that

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<v Speaker 2>blue ahead gasket and it was hooked for life. But yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so eleventh.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeh yeah, okay, eleventh or fifteenth, depending on which country,

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<v Speaker 9>which machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So you should play for a length of time

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to win, is that right?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you should stand back and watch from win someone wins.

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<v Speaker 9>Let them have king cohs before you step up and

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<v Speaker 9>put your money in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you just watch it. They're watching. Okay. Beth,

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<v Speaker 2>nice to talk, Thanks so much for that. Get in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Head on.

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<v Speaker 2>The strong start, they say in the industry, strong start

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<v Speaker 2>with a double topic, the two topic, the two topic,

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<v Speaker 2>how's your father get it?

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<v Speaker 4>Going?

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<v Speaker 2>Claw machines and social eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Dave, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus could eat the good ev Marcus.

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<v Speaker 10>We're on the run route from then the cargol se Queenstown.

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<v Speaker 10>And my eleven year old daughter made you on. In

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<v Speaker 10>the background, of course, she was listening and quiped up

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<v Speaker 10>about social media and had a fantastic story to share

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<v Speaker 10>about about why she's not on it and and funny

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<v Speaker 10>when your call was talking about you know how they

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<v Speaker 10>beat when you're sixteen or how they know and and Tatum,

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<v Speaker 10>my daughter said, well, I just googled what age she

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<v Speaker 10>had to be to get what was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Girl? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>What what was that?

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<v Speaker 10>Tug tiktox hung with her chat Snapchat? She googled and

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<v Speaker 10>it said you had to be sixteen. So she didn't

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<v Speaker 10>download it, not that she would have been able to,

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<v Speaker 10>because of course we had the pair of controls. But

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<v Speaker 10>I just thought that was that was quite fascinating that

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<v Speaker 10>that she just googled to see where the age was.

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<v Speaker 10>Nice to know I've got to po an obedience daughter.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, I got my friend and September last year.

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<v Speaker 11>And there's always been a six stretch rule of my

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<v Speaker 11>f that there's no TikTok, no social media, nothing like that,

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<v Speaker 11>only to contact your parents and your family, because my

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<v Speaker 11>mom told me the story once where this doctor interviewed

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<v Speaker 11>this these six these boys and girls around sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 11>they all said that they regretted having those abilities to

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<v Speaker 11>have social media and TikTok and snapchat and everything, because

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<v Speaker 11>they were way too young to process and.

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<v Speaker 10>Understand what they saw.

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<v Speaker 2>So tATu View's got one of the old noki in

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<v Speaker 2>nine eight one o's I wish. So why she got

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<v Speaker 2>the smartphone?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, well she actually done a bitter year ago should

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<v Speaker 10>diagnosed type one not beatis so the way that's managed

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<v Speaker 10>now is by the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 10>More interesting enough, two and a half year old sister

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<v Speaker 10>years ago got diagnosed as well. So the pair of

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<v Speaker 10>them have it. So the pair of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>well phone since she was three, obviously she'd never use it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's interesting point. So you need that that's got

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<v Speaker 2>that's got apps on it to help with diabetes control?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that right? You're yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How you Garston ethel Kingston Devil staircase.

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<v Speaker 10>Lumston pulled over ethel because I thought seven hour probably lesion,

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<v Speaker 10>that will just make the beat radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, you do lose it about now too, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think you switched to the Queenstown frequency. Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to hear from you. Thank you, Tatum. Who's so

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<v Speaker 2>the big question is?

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<v Speaker 12>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>The big question is, oh, he's talking about a different machine,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy with a coin collection Nick Nick is talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a I was looking about those as well too.

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<v Speaker 2>They're only invented in nineteen sixty five. He was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the other machine is called a coin cascade?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like on Tipping Point? Is it called a coin cascade machine?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they called? Where you've got those different shelves?

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<v Speaker 2>I love those? What are they called called? Is a

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<v Speaker 2>coin cascade? No, it's called something different, like on Tipping Point.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone knows what they're called, text me through too,

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<v Speaker 2>because I had it worked out yesterday. Name of game,

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<v Speaker 2>Name of game where you win coins on moving shelves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing about those is half the money falls

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<v Speaker 2>down the side down the edges. A coin pusher machine.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting enough. The coin pusher machines have have been

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<v Speaker 2>invented quite recently nineteen sixty four. I think, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that's not recently at sixty, but they thought they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>older than that anyway, So I'll talk about those as

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<v Speaker 2>well as well as the grabbing machines A weight one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen nine two de text head

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<v Speaker 2>on Midnight. Yes, but by the way that the the

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<v Speaker 2>claw machines were invented after they made the Panama Canal,

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<v Speaker 2>because when they're making the Panama Canal they use those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things to grab mud. And soon after someone thought,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's a good thing. We'll put them in a

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<v Speaker 2>cabinet and you can win soft toys. They weren't electric

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<v Speaker 2>to beginning. They were just cranked interesting in it. The

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<v Speaker 2>first recognizable coin pusher was Penny Falls in nineteen sixty four. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>true story. I've got texts. Someone called them a coin dozer.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that too, dB Marcus, good evening.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried that online claw thing. After you mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 3>I wind up Uncle Google and ask for one of

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<v Speaker 3>those sites. Wow, not a money maker. So it let

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<v Speaker 3>me win five times in a row, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>said if you want to win Biger prizes, please give

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<v Speaker 3>us your information. Well, of course I locked out.

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<v Speaker 2>So were you on genuine machines?

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<v Speaker 3>No, they were computer generated.

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<v Speaker 2>They're animated because you can go to real machines.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll try.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the point I'm making, is that there's real machines

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<v Speaker 2>connected to your cell phone and you can control them

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll carry the put prizes to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>But of course there's there's lots of things out there

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<v Speaker 4>that do that.

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<v Speaker 13>You can have.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Panama Canal. You can roll the cameras there, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>via apps, and the suspects more cameras and other things everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So I suppose I shouldn't be surprised with the claw machine.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does seem I mean there was because on

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<v Speaker 2>this video I saw there's like warehouses of claw machines, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy going through and restocking them.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no one in them. It's just they're all

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<v Speaker 2>there for the online customers.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all remotely controlled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I guess you've just got your cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>and just push left and right and drop and then

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<v Speaker 2>they mail the pries to you.

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<v Speaker 3>And Beth was right though. What you do is you

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<v Speaker 3>stand back and you do some research and once you've

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<v Speaker 3>worked out what the the wind rakers for any given

0:24:50.453 --> 0:24:53.613
<v Speaker 3>claw machine, you wacause it's lost that many times, then

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<v Speaker 3>you yourself and you've got a better chance of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're programming at your program at randomly to

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<v Speaker 2>tighten up the claw randomly, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>They would still give themselves a margin. They wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 3>the randomness to be better than say, one and ten, Yes,

0:25:10.733 --> 0:25:13.813
<v Speaker 3>that's right, Oh, want it to be worse than one

0:25:13.853 --> 0:25:16.333
<v Speaker 3>in fifteen. So the Mars will just make it as

0:25:16.373 --> 0:25:19.213
<v Speaker 3>best said one and eleven or one in fifteen, have

0:25:19.293 --> 0:25:21.493
<v Speaker 3>be done with it and save themselves some money.

0:25:21.813 --> 0:25:23.973
<v Speaker 2>Five grand a month profit.

0:25:24.093 --> 0:25:27.573
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm like, go buy a couple, set them up

0:25:27.573 --> 0:25:28.173
<v Speaker 3>in my bedroom.

0:25:31.053 --> 0:25:32.813
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that. I don't think you make five

0:25:32.813 --> 0:25:34.773
<v Speaker 2>grand a month if you own them yourself. I think

0:25:34.813 --> 0:25:36.373
<v Speaker 2>you've actually got to have them somewhere public.

0:25:38.453 --> 0:25:40.533
<v Speaker 3>No I mean the remote control Oh.

0:25:40.493 --> 0:25:43.853
<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, absolutely, oh absolutely.

0:25:44.013 --> 0:25:45.573
<v Speaker 3>Put up a bedroom full of them and just have

0:25:45.653 --> 0:25:46.013
<v Speaker 3>them all.

0:25:46.373 --> 0:25:48.333
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a big site. Oh there you are, there's someone

0:25:48.453 --> 0:25:50.613
<v Speaker 2>where they look at. Oh yes, someone from Elsinki having

0:25:50.613 --> 0:25:51.773
<v Speaker 2>a going own. Good luck with that.

0:25:52.013 --> 0:25:55.373
<v Speaker 3>Then good luck with that, and you can sit there

0:25:55.413 --> 0:25:58.013
<v Speaker 3>with a but and go we won't be having that

0:25:58.053 --> 0:25:59.013
<v Speaker 3>guy winning again.

0:25:59.333 --> 0:26:02.173
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you should do that because actually it's a

0:26:02.213 --> 0:26:05.213
<v Speaker 2>good thing for a good thing for these end economy

0:26:06.613 --> 0:26:08.613
<v Speaker 2>power Well, actually, why would it be good for us.

0:26:11.853 --> 0:26:14.093
<v Speaker 3>I'll make it just for New Zealanders to save on

0:26:15.333 --> 0:26:20.813
<v Speaker 3>shipping postage. But just a quick one on Facebook. I

0:26:20.853 --> 0:26:22.973
<v Speaker 3>haven't been on Facebook for many, many, many years, and

0:26:23.253 --> 0:26:25.773
<v Speaker 3>just that this weekend I went back on to a

0:26:25.813 --> 0:26:31.133
<v Speaker 3>specific railways employees group and I must have been I've

0:26:31.173 --> 0:26:34.453
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of fun. Yeah, I've better, you know,

0:26:34.773 --> 0:26:40.333
<v Speaker 3>reconnected with you know, colleagues home way back.

0:26:42.053 --> 0:26:47.133
<v Speaker 2>I also think Facebook is tremendous for sharing old photos

0:26:47.173 --> 0:26:50.853
<v Speaker 2>like I'm on time Spanner, which is old photos around

0:26:50.853 --> 0:26:53.413
<v Speaker 2>all kind of historical photos, and also some other ones

0:26:53.693 --> 0:26:56.053
<v Speaker 2>audio culture, a couple of those music sites.

0:26:55.733 --> 0:26:56.053
<v Speaker 4>And.

0:26:58.093 --> 0:27:01.973
<v Speaker 2>When it clicks to research and well written either great

0:27:01.973 --> 0:27:05.773
<v Speaker 2>photos or well written documentary articles about musicians. I think

0:27:05.773 --> 0:27:08.613
<v Speaker 2>it works very well. The comments normally to tear up

0:27:08.653 --> 0:27:12.413
<v Speaker 2>quite quickly, but the website, you know face. I think

0:27:12.413 --> 0:27:14.573
<v Speaker 2>Facebook is fantastic if you're on the right stuff.

0:27:15.653 --> 0:27:17.733
<v Speaker 3>When I first joined Facebook, I found that I was

0:27:17.733 --> 0:27:19.773
<v Speaker 3>becoming too much of a stalker side turned it off

0:27:19.773 --> 0:27:22.133
<v Speaker 3>and stop going there and have you.

0:27:22.373 --> 0:27:23.773
<v Speaker 2>Have you become less of a stalker.

0:27:25.453 --> 0:27:27.133
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've, like I said, this is the first time

0:27:27.173 --> 0:27:28.893
<v Speaker 3>they got in years and years. But I'm only on

0:27:28.893 --> 0:27:33.013
<v Speaker 3>one side and I am with friends. Yeah, as opposed

0:27:33.053 --> 0:27:34.213
<v Speaker 3>to stalking enemies.

0:27:38.813 --> 0:27:40.493
<v Speaker 2>Thanks t V. Nice to hear from you. Keep it

0:27:40.573 --> 0:27:41.173
<v Speaker 2>going people.

0:27:42.333 --> 0:27:42.573
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:27:42.573 --> 0:27:45.333
<v Speaker 2>Has anyone played the Claw Machine online? Real claw machines,

0:27:45.453 --> 0:27:49.893
<v Speaker 2>real ones, good evening. Marcus had a lot of lucks

0:27:49.893 --> 0:27:52.093
<v Speaker 2>on the Teddy Game the clause work one and three.

0:27:53.693 --> 0:27:55.613
<v Speaker 2>Don't bag the old nock here as I'm still using

0:27:55.613 --> 0:27:57.853
<v Speaker 2>one twenty years on. Free from any social media ads

0:27:57.933 --> 0:28:03.693
<v Speaker 2>or scared. I love a Nokia Marcus inland Reven. You'll

0:28:03.693 --> 0:28:05.333
<v Speaker 2>be able to do the age check for the social

0:28:05.373 --> 0:28:09.213
<v Speaker 2>media ban. You can win food, keyrings, figures and Lego

0:28:09.253 --> 0:28:11.613
<v Speaker 2>with CLW machines, you can change settings when they pay out.

0:28:12.533 --> 0:28:19.813
<v Speaker 2>I watch experts on TikTok paying live. They win lotso Marcus.

0:28:19.853 --> 0:28:22.853
<v Speaker 2>There are other alternaives to giving your children's smartphone, including

0:28:22.893 --> 0:28:25.413
<v Speaker 2>the Space Talk smart watch, which is a lockdown sim

0:28:25.573 --> 0:28:28.693
<v Speaker 2>enabled watch which allows phone calls and text messages bring

0:28:28.773 --> 0:28:32.333
<v Speaker 2>the child and approved parent. It also allows the child

0:28:32.413 --> 0:28:34.293
<v Speaker 2>to send their location and their parents to view the

0:28:34.333 --> 0:28:36.293
<v Speaker 2>location on a map. God ops, it's a bit stalky,

0:28:36.333 --> 0:28:40.293
<v Speaker 2>I think is it a bit kind of helicoptery craw

0:28:40.373 --> 0:28:43.133
<v Speaker 2>machines are gambling their program to only work a predtermined

0:28:43.133 --> 0:28:48.693
<v Speaker 2>percentage at the time, because I don't doubt that Marcus.

0:28:48.693 --> 0:28:50.093
<v Speaker 2>He may win some votes for this, but I think

0:28:50.093 --> 0:28:51.693
<v Speaker 2>he's as a whole up more with the equity paything

0:28:51.733 --> 0:28:55.533
<v Speaker 2>that they are rushing through Parliament tonight. The kid's first

0:28:55.573 --> 0:28:58.853
<v Speaker 2>smartphone only had eight gigabytes of memory, allowed three apps

0:28:59.813 --> 0:29:01.973
<v Speaker 2>other than phone and text, couldn't cut with social media,

0:29:02.013 --> 0:29:07.413
<v Speaker 2>just a few games. Problems solved far a watch? How

0:29:07.453 --> 0:29:10.013
<v Speaker 2>accurate are they? Steps get counted by arm movements, So

0:29:10.053 --> 0:29:11.973
<v Speaker 2>if you move your arm while not moving, that count

0:29:12.013 --> 0:29:16.893
<v Speaker 2>as a step. I've offered one how the I guess

0:29:16.893 --> 0:29:20.453
<v Speaker 2>the steps work because it's the phone's going up and

0:29:20.453 --> 0:29:22.453
<v Speaker 2>down as you walk. Wouldn't it be like that if

0:29:22.493 --> 0:29:25.413
<v Speaker 2>they can detect if they can detect earthquakes for the

0:29:25.413 --> 0:29:28.373
<v Speaker 2>movement of the phone before you use to detect detect walking.

0:29:30.453 --> 0:29:35.693
<v Speaker 2>Should I play a claw machine? Should I do it?

0:29:35.733 --> 0:29:35.893
<v Speaker 12>Now?

0:29:35.933 --> 0:29:40.573
<v Speaker 2>Eh? I've googled clan machine and that's something quite different.

0:29:42.733 --> 0:29:49.253
<v Speaker 2>Claw machine play remotely. The kill Joys are probably bend it,

0:29:49.613 --> 0:29:53.853
<v Speaker 2>play real claw crazy, play real claw machines, win real prizes,

0:29:57.053 --> 0:30:03.413
<v Speaker 2>play online now email. I don't want to do that.

0:30:05.413 --> 0:30:06.893
<v Speaker 2>Might take a bit of a setup for this one.

0:30:06.933 --> 0:30:11.693
<v Speaker 2>People Sheep getting touch Marcus till twelve. How you're going people?

0:30:11.693 --> 0:30:12.893
<v Speaker 2>What's happening in your neck of the woods?

0:30:13.133 --> 0:30:13.253
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:30:13.333 --> 0:30:14.173
<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred and eighty?

0:30:14.493 --> 0:30:14.693
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:30:14.733 --> 0:30:18.493
<v Speaker 2>The social media band? Good or bad? What have I

0:30:18.613 --> 0:30:20.013
<v Speaker 2>been saying all day about that? I suppose I had

0:30:20.053 --> 0:30:24.573
<v Speaker 2>a good bang on about that? Have they?

0:30:25.253 --> 0:30:25.413
<v Speaker 12>Oh?

0:30:25.493 --> 0:30:27.093
<v Speaker 2>How dare they tell people what to do? What about

0:30:27.093 --> 0:30:32.053
<v Speaker 2>the parents? It's there job, make the kids lunch, monitor

0:30:32.053 --> 0:30:37.213
<v Speaker 2>their cell phone usage? So I am interested. Anyone that's

0:30:37.213 --> 0:30:39.493
<v Speaker 2>played one of those craw machines in real life. Are

0:30:39.493 --> 0:30:41.573
<v Speaker 2>not in real life, but they've played it remotely in

0:30:41.613 --> 0:30:43.293
<v Speaker 2>real life. If someone does that, that would be of

0:30:43.333 --> 0:30:47.733
<v Speaker 2>interest to me and the old social media band. Yes, no,

0:30:48.293 --> 0:30:50.173
<v Speaker 2>I think most people would be for it.

0:30:53.573 --> 0:30:53.693
<v Speaker 7>Now.

0:30:53.733 --> 0:30:55.693
<v Speaker 2>Did it get rid of the phones at schools? That

0:30:55.733 --> 0:31:00.413
<v Speaker 2>seem to be fairly successful? I guess it was. I'm

0:31:00.453 --> 0:31:04.973
<v Speaker 2>not sure about that. I haven't really asked anyone at

0:31:05.013 --> 0:31:09.493
<v Speaker 2>secondary school that you can take them can't show? Is

0:31:09.533 --> 0:31:09.853
<v Speaker 2>that right?

0:31:09.933 --> 0:31:10.373
<v Speaker 13>I don't know.

0:31:12.173 --> 0:31:14.213
<v Speaker 2>I'm still getting to tone with year one, year two,

0:31:14.213 --> 0:31:16.813
<v Speaker 2>Why do think you're going to form primis and forms.

0:31:17.373 --> 0:31:19.133
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what a lot of parents are struggling with.

0:31:21.093 --> 0:31:22.773
<v Speaker 2>By the way is predicted, the South IGN's going to

0:31:22.773 --> 0:31:29.693
<v Speaker 2>be absolutely downpulled with ret wet weather Thursdays, it's going

0:31:29.733 --> 0:31:37.733
<v Speaker 2>to hit big now carve train at Rolliston, hate Horne,

0:31:37.733 --> 0:31:42.133
<v Speaker 2>Sint John have departed the scene with a social media

0:31:42.573 --> 0:31:47.933
<v Speaker 2>and the claw machines. They're a parenting nightmare too, because

0:31:47.933 --> 0:31:49.253
<v Speaker 2>I never there's one of these some at the end

0:31:49.253 --> 0:31:52.493
<v Speaker 2>of Cargo Airport that they should get rid of. They

0:31:52.533 --> 0:31:56.893
<v Speaker 2>never work, They've never once paid out. I don't know

0:31:56.893 --> 0:32:06.853
<v Speaker 2>why they're there, god forsaken place, and yeah, always tell

0:32:06.893 --> 0:32:08.733
<v Speaker 2>preus they don't put any money. It never pays out.

0:32:09.133 --> 0:32:10.453
<v Speaker 2>But they should just get rid of them. It's a

0:32:13.893 --> 0:32:19.253
<v Speaker 2>it's not good for people's experience of the airport. Just

0:32:19.293 --> 0:32:23.293
<v Speaker 2>causes a huge amount of tension. So anyway, I need

0:32:23.333 --> 0:32:25.413
<v Speaker 2>to pick it up and take it away and dump

0:32:25.413 --> 0:32:28.533
<v Speaker 2>it somewhere. I feel quite strong about that one. We

0:32:28.613 --> 0:32:31.693
<v Speaker 2>definitely never paid out, but never does. I don't know

0:32:31.693 --> 0:32:33.093
<v Speaker 2>what happens if you've tried tuning it off at the

0:32:33.133 --> 0:32:35.373
<v Speaker 2>wall and shaking it doesn't seem to change it much.

0:32:37.173 --> 0:32:40.613
<v Speaker 2>I guess they've got things around that anyway. I'm surprised

0:32:40.613 --> 0:32:44.333
<v Speaker 2>that they are so popular and so compelling. Of course,

0:32:44.373 --> 0:32:46.173
<v Speaker 2>there's always that great shot of the children that have

0:32:46.213 --> 0:32:48.333
<v Speaker 2>crawled inside them, you know, that always goes viral. But

0:32:48.373 --> 0:32:50.653
<v Speaker 2>I think probably parents encourage the children they're toddlers to

0:32:50.693 --> 0:32:52.973
<v Speaker 2>do that, because how could a toddler climb in there?

0:32:54.693 --> 0:32:58.813
<v Speaker 2>Seems very unlikely to me, but every so often that's

0:32:58.853 --> 0:33:02.453
<v Speaker 2>one of the great shots on the local paper. Be

0:33:02.493 --> 0:33:03.493
<v Speaker 2>in touch if you want to be a pat of

0:33:03.533 --> 0:33:06.733
<v Speaker 2>the show, Marcus Tall Midnight, as I say, a hundred

0:33:06.733 --> 0:33:08.733
<v Speaker 2>and eighty Teddy had nine two nine two to text

0:33:09.333 --> 0:33:11.693
<v Speaker 2>social media. I think everyone seems to be in favor,

0:33:11.853 --> 0:33:16.493
<v Speaker 2>is that right, which means it will probably happen if

0:33:16.493 --> 0:33:20.733
<v Speaker 2>no one's opposed. I mean, they're got to draw it

0:33:20.733 --> 0:33:22.213
<v Speaker 2>out first, but I might make it policy for the

0:33:22.253 --> 0:33:28.093
<v Speaker 2>next election because if National wants it and Labor wants it, well,

0:33:28.613 --> 0:33:30.733
<v Speaker 2>then if it's popular, no one's going to go against.

0:33:30.733 --> 0:33:32.493
<v Speaker 2>So I think they're going to actually lose votes by that.

0:33:33.653 --> 0:33:35.333
<v Speaker 2>No one cares about the sixteen year olds. They don't

0:33:35.373 --> 0:33:41.493
<v Speaker 2>vote Marcus. My mate Bobo had the coin machines all

0:33:41.493 --> 0:33:44.173
<v Speaker 2>over hawks ban the seventies and eighties. He refers to

0:33:44.213 --> 0:33:52.653
<v Speaker 2>them as sliders. Marcus was that dB Cooper. Yes, the

0:33:52.733 --> 0:33:55.573
<v Speaker 2>fair in John Street in Newtown used to have machines

0:33:55.573 --> 0:33:57.653
<v Speaker 2>with a spinning table inside an arm well, then move

0:33:57.693 --> 0:34:00.533
<v Speaker 2>across and push the button. I love those with the watchers.

0:34:00.573 --> 0:34:04.933
<v Speaker 2>They were compelling and someone texts through. I thought banning

0:34:05.013 --> 0:34:07.973
<v Speaker 2>social media front of six would be great as my

0:34:08.213 --> 0:34:13.333
<v Speaker 2>daughter attempted suicide in twenty twenty due to social media

0:34:13.413 --> 0:34:17.253
<v Speaker 2>during lockdown. Fine, now it won't work as it will

0:34:17.293 --> 0:34:20.493
<v Speaker 2>be impossible to force. It would mean everyone whose you

0:34:20.533 --> 0:34:22.333
<v Speaker 2>would have to have some form of digital idea to

0:34:22.453 --> 0:34:25.773
<v Speaker 2>prove who they are online, to verify their age, so

0:34:25.813 --> 0:34:27.933
<v Speaker 2>you need to log into absolutely everything you do to

0:34:28.253 --> 0:34:31.133
<v Speaker 2>do online. Also, VPNs can bypass us as well to

0:34:31.253 --> 0:34:34.053
<v Speaker 2>some extent going forward. By no, Now, if I had

0:34:34.133 --> 0:34:36.133
<v Speaker 2>kids again, they would never get a phone or social

0:34:36.173 --> 0:34:39.733
<v Speaker 2>media until they were sixteen plus parental controls of REBST

0:34:39.733 --> 0:34:41.813
<v Speaker 2>way forward, I think not the government wasting money on

0:34:41.853 --> 0:34:48.013
<v Speaker 2>something that won't work, although you didn't have it. I

0:34:48.013 --> 0:34:50.413
<v Speaker 2>mean that said with kindness. You say what you know now,

0:34:51.253 --> 0:34:54.893
<v Speaker 2>so there's no way you can know that Therefore, you

0:34:55.053 --> 0:34:58.253
<v Speaker 2>surely should be in favor of a compulsory ban, because

0:34:58.253 --> 0:35:00.733
<v Speaker 2>there's no way parents can know the harm it can cause.

0:35:01.733 --> 0:35:06.173
<v Speaker 2>Haven't you proven with that text the reverse of what

0:35:06.213 --> 0:35:09.653
<v Speaker 2>you pointers? I'm just wondering that you might want to comment,

0:35:10.293 --> 0:35:12.413
<v Speaker 2>Marcus starting to go. Started going to time Zone with

0:35:12.453 --> 0:35:13.933
<v Speaker 2>my kids three and a half one and a half years,

0:35:14.013 --> 0:35:16.653
<v Speaker 2>been there four times so far. Each time someone else

0:35:16.693 --> 0:35:19.013
<v Speaker 2>has won something from a claw machine or one of

0:35:19.013 --> 0:35:21.333
<v Speaker 2>those doz of machines, and they give them to my kids.

0:35:22.013 --> 0:35:23.653
<v Speaker 2>Well you would too, No, I already wants a soft

0:35:23.733 --> 0:35:29.173
<v Speaker 2>beer or a hard bear. Oh welcome people, nine seven

0:35:29.253 --> 0:35:30.773
<v Speaker 2>seven pasts, don't How are you going? I hope it's

0:35:30.773 --> 0:35:33.773
<v Speaker 2>good where you are. People. We are talking claw machines. Now.

0:35:34.653 --> 0:35:36.373
<v Speaker 2>They are the machines you see everywhere, and you can

0:35:36.413 --> 0:35:40.693
<v Speaker 2>grab soft toys from the claw. I didn't realize just

0:35:40.773 --> 0:35:43.893
<v Speaker 2>how huge they were. Like in Japan, half of all

0:35:43.933 --> 0:35:49.813
<v Speaker 2>machines and arcades are claw machines. I don't know why.

0:35:50.093 --> 0:35:53.773
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why also though, but what I hadn't

0:35:53.813 --> 0:35:58.373
<v Speaker 2>known until I was reading about them today research is

0:35:58.413 --> 0:36:03.613
<v Speaker 2>that you can play physical real machines remotely from your

0:36:03.613 --> 0:36:07.813
<v Speaker 2>cell phone. Wanting to encourage you people to get off

0:36:07.813 --> 0:36:09.973
<v Speaker 2>tim and get addicted to something else. But if you've

0:36:09.973 --> 0:36:13.613
<v Speaker 2>done that, how was it and how long did you

0:36:13.653 --> 0:36:16.693
<v Speaker 2>have to arrive wait for the soft toy to arrive

0:36:16.773 --> 0:36:21.133
<v Speaker 2>or the key ring or whatever it is? Ill stear

0:36:21.213 --> 0:36:22.973
<v Speaker 2>my kids to wait for that. Don't know. Yeah, I

0:36:23.213 --> 0:36:27.973
<v Speaker 2>just I just don't think. I think those machines are

0:36:28.053 --> 0:36:31.333
<v Speaker 2>appearing forget Facebook. I think those machines are a parenting challenge.

0:36:33.293 --> 0:36:36.053
<v Speaker 2>All that random reinforcement, you know, next thing, they're hooked.

0:36:36.733 --> 0:36:39.893
<v Speaker 2>I've been hooked, flan Ste We're clear of them myself.

0:36:39.973 --> 0:36:43.933
<v Speaker 2>I have had wins. So we have two about Clowe

0:36:43.933 --> 0:36:46.253
<v Speaker 2>machines and also the social media band. By the way,

0:36:46.253 --> 0:36:54.013
<v Speaker 2>I've done some reading during the news in Australia. YouTube

0:36:54.133 --> 0:36:56.173
<v Speaker 2>is not one of the social media that has banned,

0:36:56.173 --> 0:37:02.333
<v Speaker 2>so YouTube's okay. They're also it's quite a complicated story.

0:37:02.333 --> 0:37:05.373
<v Speaker 2>There's a British company that's engaged to getting the verification

0:37:05.613 --> 0:37:09.373
<v Speaker 2>right and I think they have recruited a group of

0:37:09.533 --> 0:37:12.333
<v Speaker 2>children or people under sixteen and it will be their

0:37:12.453 --> 0:37:18.493
<v Speaker 2>job to test the security on certain social medias to

0:37:18.573 --> 0:37:20.973
<v Speaker 2>make sure that they have got their checks and balances

0:37:21.773 --> 0:37:25.373
<v Speaker 2>worked out. So you probably get done from trapman A

0:37:25.373 --> 0:37:28.693
<v Speaker 2>bit like selling smokes to under sixteen year olds, even

0:37:28.733 --> 0:37:30.773
<v Speaker 2>though you address them in bolved with the fake fake

0:37:30.853 --> 0:37:37.253
<v Speaker 2>mustache and stuff. It's the same with social media. If

0:37:37.333 --> 0:37:39.693
<v Speaker 2>you are a social media company, you're allowing under sixteen

0:37:39.693 --> 0:37:41.573
<v Speaker 2>people on your you know, put the onus on them

0:37:41.573 --> 0:37:43.373
<v Speaker 2>and phone them. So I need to talk about this.

0:37:43.373 --> 0:37:45.213
<v Speaker 2>People of the lines are free, let's be hearing from you.

0:37:45.693 --> 0:37:48.453
<v Speaker 2>Social media also too, hasn't even got a good social

0:37:48.453 --> 0:37:50.693
<v Speaker 2>media story for an under sixteen year old. I don't

0:37:50.733 --> 0:37:56.053
<v Speaker 2>think anyone has. They just get hooked. I've seen this.

0:37:58.373 --> 0:38:00.493
<v Speaker 2>They're just on their damn phones the whole time because

0:38:00.493 --> 0:38:05.613
<v Speaker 2>it's just so compelling. Social media ban is long over due.

0:38:05.813 --> 0:38:10.133
<v Speaker 2>Children understandably have no self control and don't learn critical

0:38:10.173 --> 0:38:15.493
<v Speaker 2>skills and awareness into adulthood. The harm from social media

0:38:15.573 --> 0:38:22.893
<v Speaker 2>oute weighs any perceived benefits. Device addiction, online bullying, pornography,

0:38:22.973 --> 0:38:26.653
<v Speaker 2>in appropriate content, disengagement from family, deteriorating mental health. The

0:38:26.693 --> 0:38:30.773
<v Speaker 2>list goes on. Parents can't monitor and can't lead by

0:38:30.773 --> 0:38:35.933
<v Speaker 2>example because they are addicted themselves. We are a device

0:38:36.013 --> 0:38:38.373
<v Speaker 2>free household with two young kids. It's not easy, but

0:38:38.413 --> 0:38:41.653
<v Speaker 2>it's the best for them. Their imaginative play is incredible,

0:38:42.373 --> 0:38:46.773
<v Speaker 2>and our engagement and undivided attention with them is priceless.

0:38:48.413 --> 0:38:56.533
<v Speaker 2>They will thank us later. Wow, Scott's Marcus, welcome.

0:38:57.493 --> 0:39:01.053
<v Speaker 4>Here you are, Marcus good thank you, Scott good good.

0:39:01.613 --> 0:39:06.133
<v Speaker 4>Anon on one of these parents basically back in the day,

0:39:06.453 --> 0:39:11.333
<v Speaker 4>my daughter's sixteen now in primary school. She's got a

0:39:11.333 --> 0:39:14.653
<v Speaker 4>good report, so I basically went out and bought her

0:39:14.533 --> 0:39:21.493
<v Speaker 4>a phone. Like, have never understood computer or technology. I've

0:39:21.533 --> 0:39:26.813
<v Speaker 4>never owned a computer in my life. Now she's got

0:39:26.853 --> 0:39:29.773
<v Speaker 4>to the age she's sixteen now and she's just over it.

0:39:31.973 --> 0:39:37.133
<v Speaker 4>Like she's been bullied before on social media. It's been

0:39:37.213 --> 0:39:42.573
<v Speaker 4>sorted out, but it's one of those things that the

0:39:42.693 --> 0:39:46.933
<v Speaker 4>conversation's here at the moment and I know, like you

0:39:47.053 --> 0:39:50.973
<v Speaker 4>talk about what can be done about it, but I

0:39:51.093 --> 0:39:55.053
<v Speaker 4>just see the conversation needs to be had because who

0:39:55.093 --> 0:40:00.653
<v Speaker 4>knows in another five years that that can be sorted out,

0:40:00.893 --> 0:40:03.253
<v Speaker 4>and when it does get sorted out, you can be

0:40:03.333 --> 0:40:05.853
<v Speaker 4>in front of the ball too, sort of out. Yeah,

0:40:07.693 --> 0:40:13.493
<v Speaker 4>so you regret it, Well, I wouldn't say I regret

0:40:13.533 --> 0:40:17.213
<v Speaker 4>it because she's she's gone through it. She's been through it,

0:40:17.293 --> 0:40:22.453
<v Speaker 4>and she's like written above it, so to speak, but

0:40:22.813 --> 0:40:27.213
<v Speaker 4>it's like it's been a hard road and it's like,

0:40:28.173 --> 0:40:30.253
<v Speaker 4>you know, I just don't know. It's like you know,

0:40:30.493 --> 0:40:33.733
<v Speaker 4>kids these days, it's like whether or not. It's like

0:40:33.773 --> 0:40:36.013
<v Speaker 4>if a child has to go through it, I wouldn't

0:40:36.013 --> 0:40:38.653
<v Speaker 4>want any child to go through it, but if it's

0:40:38.693 --> 0:40:42.493
<v Speaker 4>a learning curve in this day and age, and like,

0:40:43.013 --> 0:40:48.453
<v Speaker 4>actually it's just you know, maybe if we put the

0:40:48.533 --> 0:40:52.373
<v Speaker 4>work in now to sort it out, how like you say,

0:40:52.493 --> 0:40:55.213
<v Speaker 4>how we going to police it in that and maybe

0:40:55.213 --> 0:40:57.893
<v Speaker 4>two or three years they can't police it, But it's

0:40:57.933 --> 0:41:00.413
<v Speaker 4>all about being in front of the board to police it,

0:41:00.533 --> 0:41:01.133
<v Speaker 4>so to speak.

0:41:01.893 --> 0:41:04.333
<v Speaker 2>And maybe too that the young people themselves will get

0:41:04.373 --> 0:41:07.413
<v Speaker 2>sick of social media, maybe that maybe it's become old hat,

0:41:07.493 --> 0:41:10.133
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're into something new. I don't know that that's true,

0:41:10.333 --> 0:41:11.493
<v Speaker 2>but I wonder about that.

0:41:11.413 --> 0:41:15.213
<v Speaker 4>Well as well. Like my daughter's there saying like she's

0:41:15.253 --> 0:41:18.613
<v Speaker 4>she's just like that's the thing. It's like she's just

0:41:18.693 --> 0:41:21.133
<v Speaker 4>over it now. Like you know, she has a TikTok,

0:41:21.213 --> 0:41:24.693
<v Speaker 4>but it's you know, as far as Instagram and everything

0:41:24.813 --> 0:41:27.973
<v Speaker 4>like that goes, she's just like she's what everything from

0:41:27.973 --> 0:41:30.773
<v Speaker 4>her accounts and it's just that thing where it's.

0:41:30.773 --> 0:41:33.613
<v Speaker 2>Like what's the format? What was the format of the bullying?

0:41:33.653 --> 0:41:36.173
<v Speaker 2>Was the bullying TikTok or face a Facebook?

0:41:36.213 --> 0:41:39.613
<v Speaker 4>The bullying it was it was basically primary school.

0:41:39.853 --> 0:41:42.213
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was on what social media form?

0:41:44.293 --> 0:41:47.453
<v Speaker 4>Well, it was just like a school format that basically

0:41:47.573 --> 0:41:52.333
<v Speaker 4>kids were on from from the school and just basically

0:41:52.573 --> 0:41:55.333
<v Speaker 4>kids got the wrong idea about bits and pieces and

0:41:55.893 --> 0:41:59.053
<v Speaker 4>just basically attacked her online kind of stuff. I was

0:41:59.133 --> 0:42:01.333
<v Speaker 4>lucky enough. I talked to the principal and it was

0:42:01.373 --> 0:42:05.613
<v Speaker 4>sorted out pretty much straight away. Everything was out with

0:42:05.853 --> 0:42:10.293
<v Speaker 4>But it's it's everything, Like it wasn't so much on

0:42:10.653 --> 0:42:14.733
<v Speaker 4>a so like Instagram or techtok, but it was like

0:42:15.253 --> 0:42:20.213
<v Speaker 4>these schools seemed to have like pages like with the

0:42:20.253 --> 0:42:25.533
<v Speaker 4>students kind of clock into and rumors are spread. Basically

0:42:25.813 --> 0:42:27.013
<v Speaker 4>the stuff is said.

0:42:27.573 --> 0:42:29.853
<v Speaker 2>School, the school, the school lap Yeah okay.

0:42:30.813 --> 0:42:33.333
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah. It's just like and it just spirals out

0:42:33.333 --> 0:42:38.093
<v Speaker 4>of control kind of stuff. So it's lucky enough that

0:42:38.293 --> 0:42:42.413
<v Speaker 4>like she went through it in primary school, intermediate kind

0:42:42.453 --> 0:42:45.933
<v Speaker 4>of stuff. But like now she's in high school. It's like,

0:42:46.733 --> 0:42:49.253
<v Speaker 4>you know, it was still a factor last year when

0:42:49.253 --> 0:42:54.213
<v Speaker 4>she was like basically and unfitful, but like now she's

0:42:54.253 --> 0:42:57.453
<v Speaker 4>just kind of like she's over it, she's you know,

0:42:57.773 --> 0:42:59.973
<v Speaker 4>it's just so hopefully she's risen above it.

0:43:00.453 --> 0:43:02.453
<v Speaker 2>Nice to hear from you, Scott, Thank you. Fifteen past nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Marcus welcome.

0:43:04.653 --> 0:43:05.693
<v Speaker 7>I am Marcus.

0:43:05.733 --> 0:43:06.133
<v Speaker 2>Good Mike.

0:43:07.653 --> 0:43:07.853
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:43:07.893 --> 0:43:12.653
<v Speaker 7>Hey, look, these are smartphones and the apps that these

0:43:12.773 --> 0:43:24.413
<v Speaker 7>young people are able to access certain services. The tense

0:43:24.653 --> 0:43:31.813
<v Speaker 7>draws them away from uh, you know, the their lack

0:43:31.933 --> 0:43:38.533
<v Speaker 7>of knowing where there, where they are, you know, what,

0:43:38.533 --> 0:43:39.773
<v Speaker 7>what they're moving about.

0:43:42.613 --> 0:43:45.893
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I really don't.

0:43:46.733 --> 0:43:53.853
<v Speaker 7>I really don't think their whole situational awareness is really bad.

0:43:56.093 --> 0:44:00.973
<v Speaker 7>And for me, that is like taking away the most

0:44:01.093 --> 0:44:03.093
<v Speaker 7>basic instinct of a human.

0:44:04.413 --> 0:44:09.053
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, you're saying social media takes wrecks their

0:44:09.053 --> 0:44:11.413
<v Speaker 2>development of the world, dyn and their spatial is that

0:44:11.453 --> 0:44:12.853
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying. It stunts them.

0:44:13.053 --> 0:44:15.133
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, out of their spatial awareness.

0:44:15.373 --> 0:44:15.613
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:44:15.853 --> 0:44:22.493
<v Speaker 7>And it's like not having you know, an immediate conscience

0:44:22.653 --> 0:44:28.053
<v Speaker 7>of whether they're at while they're doing something with the moon,

0:44:28.133 --> 0:44:34.173
<v Speaker 7>about in the community or whatever. And it seemed to

0:44:35.293 --> 0:44:37.653
<v Speaker 7>really just sort of dumb things down.

0:44:37.693 --> 0:44:39.813
<v Speaker 2>Okay, your favor of the band, Mike.

0:44:41.453 --> 0:44:43.333
<v Speaker 7>I am in favor of band.

0:44:44.293 --> 0:44:47.853
<v Speaker 2>If you if you're kids about that age, No, I

0:44:47.933 --> 0:44:49.933
<v Speaker 2>don't okay, but you just can see the lack of

0:44:49.973 --> 0:44:51.333
<v Speaker 2>spatial awareness.

0:44:51.853 --> 0:44:54.133
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I can see it in the community.

0:44:54.773 --> 0:44:58.733
<v Speaker 2>That's what we want. You're a seer. Oh wait, one

0:44:58.813 --> 0:45:03.093
<v Speaker 2>hundred eighty daddy texts. Keep those going, Marcus. It's not

0:45:03.133 --> 0:45:05.533
<v Speaker 2>in the social damage. But pedestrian injuries are up around

0:45:05.533 --> 0:45:06.333
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent.

0:45:06.053 --> 0:45:07.133
<v Speaker 1>Of the ten years.

0:45:09.573 --> 0:45:12.933
<v Speaker 2>Who that's probably the way the driving's going, is it

0:45:13.093 --> 0:45:14.613
<v Speaker 2>or is it because people are on their phones. I

0:45:14.653 --> 0:45:20.213
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Marcus. The wombs are out of the can.

0:45:20.293 --> 0:45:22.173
<v Speaker 2>You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Gosh,

0:45:22.173 --> 0:45:25.093
<v Speaker 2>that's a couple of metaphors. What's thed is education and

0:45:25.133 --> 0:45:27.373
<v Speaker 2>engagement for parents. They are best able to lead by example.

0:45:27.453 --> 0:45:31.333
<v Speaker 2>That you're not overbearing legislation that will never be enforceable.

0:45:31.373 --> 0:45:34.213
<v Speaker 2>I'd be thinking me quite easy to enforce it. He

0:45:34.413 --> 0:45:35.613
<v Speaker 2>enforced anything.

0:45:36.933 --> 0:45:37.173
<v Speaker 7>Good.

0:45:37.213 --> 0:45:39.413
<v Speaker 2>New social media story. My sixteen year old son when

0:45:39.413 --> 0:45:43.613
<v Speaker 2>he was fourteen, sold gibbets for CROs. He put it

0:45:43.653 --> 0:45:45.573
<v Speaker 2>from Ali Baba to the people have bled him on

0:45:45.613 --> 0:45:48.773
<v Speaker 2>Facebook Marketplace. He made two and a half thousand dollar profit.

0:45:48.813 --> 0:45:54.053
<v Speaker 2>Not bad for a fourteen year old gibbets. There are

0:45:54.053 --> 0:45:55.773
<v Speaker 2>those things you put through the hole in your crocs.

0:45:58.573 --> 0:46:03.973
<v Speaker 2>I think probably the gibbet thing has passed. I don't

0:46:03.973 --> 0:46:06.213
<v Speaker 2>know if I want a gibbet. I've never had a

0:46:06.533 --> 0:46:10.413
<v Speaker 2>of Crocs. I'm not entirely sure. It needs to happen

0:46:10.453 --> 0:46:16.773
<v Speaker 2>for me to have a peer, because they probably are a.

0:46:16.693 --> 0:46:17.053
<v Speaker 4>Bit of me.

0:46:20.293 --> 0:46:22.413
<v Speaker 2>I did watch a woman online that made this is

0:46:22.453 --> 0:46:25.253
<v Speaker 2>me online. She made it. Some of the contries is

0:46:25.333 --> 0:46:29.213
<v Speaker 2>quite compelling. She made a pair of crocs out of wood.

0:46:31.293 --> 0:46:35.133
<v Speaker 2>It tooked like fourteen days. And most people saying online

0:46:35.213 --> 0:46:37.013
<v Speaker 2>their clogs, what you're making is clogs, but they had

0:46:37.053 --> 0:46:43.053
<v Speaker 2>the holes and the safety strap. Ban ban ban ban

0:46:44.333 --> 0:46:49.173
<v Speaker 2>everyone wants. No one's got a good social media story.

0:46:50.653 --> 0:46:53.213
<v Speaker 2>I could even remember my first engagement with social media.

0:46:57.293 --> 0:47:02.173
<v Speaker 2>It was on Facebook when those were the days old

0:47:02.173 --> 0:47:07.853
<v Speaker 2>photos been sheared. Goodness. The funny thing is if you're

0:47:07.853 --> 0:47:10.213
<v Speaker 2>a certain age when you have photos, old photos shared

0:47:10.253 --> 0:47:12.733
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook. There weren't many photos because no one had cameras.

0:47:13.253 --> 0:47:17.813
<v Speaker 2>Night clubbing. It wasn't something you did. Do you ever

0:47:17.813 --> 0:47:21.413
<v Speaker 2>see a photo of yourself out and about with the

0:47:21.453 --> 0:47:23.613
<v Speaker 2>warbye boot? I mean it was quite different because there

0:47:23.613 --> 0:47:28.333
<v Speaker 2>weren't many. I was like, whoa, I love a claw machine.

0:47:28.333 --> 0:47:29.933
<v Speaker 2>I've got my arm stuck in one trying to reach

0:47:30.013 --> 0:47:32.173
<v Speaker 2>up into the delivery hole. I had a few wines,

0:47:32.213 --> 0:47:35.813
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, Sonya karaka. Nice to hear from you, sonya.

0:47:36.013 --> 0:47:40.933
<v Speaker 2>Or it does look tempting, by the way, some of

0:47:40.973 --> 0:47:43.133
<v Speaker 2>the ones online very interesting things you can win with

0:47:43.173 --> 0:47:47.373
<v Speaker 2>the grabbers. A lot of those arcades now just when

0:47:47.373 --> 0:47:51.293
<v Speaker 2>tickets well, I'm not a big fan of that, redeemed

0:47:51.293 --> 0:47:56.053
<v Speaker 2>tickets for prizes because the prizes are all junk. Yeah,

0:47:56.053 --> 0:48:02.573
<v Speaker 2>that's not nearly as exciting. Love me a claw machine, Well,

0:48:02.573 --> 0:48:04.333
<v Speaker 2>I don't really love it because I refuse to play them,

0:48:06.013 --> 0:48:08.253
<v Speaker 2>but I do like the psychology of them. I do

0:48:08.293 --> 0:48:12.013
<v Speaker 2>find them quite fascinating. Hello, Abby, it's Marcus. Welcome.

0:48:13.893 --> 0:48:14.013
<v Speaker 12>Hi.

0:48:14.253 --> 0:48:16.013
<v Speaker 2>How's it going good yourself?

0:48:16.213 --> 0:48:16.373
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:48:16.453 --> 0:48:17.253
<v Speaker 2>You hopped.

0:48:18.453 --> 0:48:19.053
<v Speaker 9>What they say?

0:48:19.293 --> 0:48:27.733
<v Speaker 2>You're hop day? Are you hooked on car machines?

0:48:28.853 --> 0:48:33.013
<v Speaker 14>No, not not so much. My dad's actually listening at

0:48:33.053 --> 0:48:35.333
<v Speaker 14>them minutes so I'm calling. He told me to call

0:48:35.453 --> 0:48:41.933
<v Speaker 14>up and tell the core machine story. So I thought

0:48:41.933 --> 0:48:43.733
<v Speaker 14>I would because he'll be in the shed laughing.

0:48:44.213 --> 0:48:45.653
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, here we go. Yep.

0:48:48.013 --> 0:48:50.053
<v Speaker 14>It's not even that great of a story. It's just

0:48:50.093 --> 0:48:53.453
<v Speaker 14>the time when we've turned through Wellington once when I

0:48:53.533 --> 0:48:58.813
<v Speaker 14>was like seven, yeah or something. We were staying at

0:48:58.813 --> 0:49:00.653
<v Speaker 14>a hotel that was just down the road from an

0:49:00.653 --> 0:49:07.453
<v Speaker 14>old time zone we like every single day, and it

0:49:07.573 --> 0:49:11.813
<v Speaker 14>happened to gone like a machine sphere And when me

0:49:11.853 --> 0:49:15.693
<v Speaker 14>and old it was like a plush toy guitar.

0:49:18.733 --> 0:49:19.733
<v Speaker 5>And I was over the moon.

0:49:20.973 --> 0:49:21.693
<v Speaker 2>Did you win it?

0:49:22.493 --> 0:49:23.853
<v Speaker 14>Yeah? Yeah, you won it for me?

0:49:24.493 --> 0:49:25.333
<v Speaker 2>After how long?

0:49:26.413 --> 0:49:27.493
<v Speaker 14>It didn't take him too long?

0:49:27.533 --> 0:49:30.453
<v Speaker 2>I don't, wow, but he must think that is it

0:49:30.493 --> 0:49:31.733
<v Speaker 2>the story he wanted you to tell?

0:49:32.413 --> 0:49:33.853
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

0:49:34.013 --> 0:49:37.333
<v Speaker 2>Have you still got the plush guitar? Yeah, of course,

0:49:37.653 --> 0:49:39.933
<v Speaker 2>that's okay. So they had gone there and you're both and

0:49:40.013 --> 0:49:43.373
<v Speaker 2>he won it. Brilliant. That's nice. You've got you to

0:49:43.373 --> 0:49:45.573
<v Speaker 2>bring that story, Abby. I like that. That's great. Okay,

0:49:45.653 --> 0:49:47.973
<v Speaker 2>there we go. That's the story. Is he in the

0:49:48.333 --> 0:49:50.453
<v Speaker 2>Is this ship in the same house as you? Abby?

0:49:50.733 --> 0:49:57.133
<v Speaker 2>Is he like I've moved out a home that same city? Yeah?

0:49:57.173 --> 0:49:57.613
<v Speaker 14>Of course.

0:49:57.853 --> 0:49:59.053
<v Speaker 2>How big is the plush guitar?

0:50:00.693 --> 0:50:04.053
<v Speaker 14>It's only a little wee thing, like a foot long

0:50:04.173 --> 0:50:04.813
<v Speaker 14>or something.

0:50:04.613 --> 0:50:07.493
<v Speaker 2>Because you can't win anything very big. The ones with basketballs,

0:50:07.493 --> 0:50:08.973
<v Speaker 2>they're my favorite.

0:50:09.253 --> 0:50:12.973
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, Now it's just a small ways brilliant.

0:50:13.013 --> 0:50:15.373
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there we go. Just character headlines. If we want

0:50:15.373 --> 0:50:17.853
<v Speaker 2>to talk about claw machines. Well, that's good that people

0:50:17.893 --> 0:50:25.693
<v Speaker 2>are ringing their daughters getting them to call get in touch.

0:50:26.493 --> 0:50:29.373
<v Speaker 2>The social media ban will never actually happen. It's just

0:50:29.373 --> 0:50:32.013
<v Speaker 2>a smoke screen to for that other grubby policy they

0:50:32.173 --> 0:50:34.373
<v Speaker 2>washed through today. Can't stand lux and he's a dog

0:50:34.413 --> 0:50:37.053
<v Speaker 2>in sheep's clothing. One of them is on pay equity

0:50:37.133 --> 0:50:38.773
<v Speaker 2>for women, and one of them is that they can

0:50:38.813 --> 0:50:43.413
<v Speaker 2>actually now allow for big problems projects like dams. They

0:50:43.453 --> 0:50:47.133
<v Speaker 2>can allow kiwis and animals like that to die. So yeah,

0:50:48.093 --> 0:50:53.493
<v Speaker 2>fairly controversial. Hello Michael, it's Marcus. Good evening, Good evening.

0:50:53.493 --> 0:50:54.213
<v Speaker 13>How are you good?

0:50:54.213 --> 0:50:54.933
<v Speaker 2>Michael? Thank you.

0:50:56.733 --> 0:50:58.613
<v Speaker 13>So social media ban and not only I have to

0:50:58.653 --> 0:51:02.133
<v Speaker 13>go with David Seymour and that it's not a workable proposal.

0:51:02.293 --> 0:51:04.173
<v Speaker 13>So social media is not great. I agree, but that

0:51:04.613 --> 0:51:09.173
<v Speaker 13>banning an online website, I just always banning alcohol doesn't work.

0:51:10.133 --> 0:51:17.693
<v Speaker 2>Well, hang about, hang about because they reckoned once, the

0:51:17.693 --> 0:51:20.213
<v Speaker 2>Aussie one kick, And I mean, I mean, if you're

0:51:20.253 --> 0:51:23.453
<v Speaker 2>a David Simwa echo like fair play to you, but

0:51:23.653 --> 0:51:23.973
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:51:24.333 --> 0:51:26.653
<v Speaker 13>It's not a fair personal But he's a normally right

0:51:26.693 --> 0:51:27.013
<v Speaker 13>about this.

0:51:27.853 --> 0:51:31.573
<v Speaker 2>But they reckon once the Australian one goes in that

0:51:32.413 --> 0:51:35.093
<v Speaker 2>and it's proven to be successful. Which they're confident of

0:51:35.533 --> 0:51:37.253
<v Speaker 2>is that every other country in the world will copy

0:51:37.253 --> 0:51:40.573
<v Speaker 2>it for every quickly. And there are bands for there

0:51:40.573 --> 0:51:43.013
<v Speaker 2>are bands for things with age groups. I mean the

0:51:43.053 --> 0:51:46.413
<v Speaker 2>alcohol ban is you're not comparing like with like. If

0:51:46.453 --> 0:51:51.413
<v Speaker 2>you look at banning cigarettes to people under sixteen, most

0:51:51.493 --> 0:51:52.973
<v Speaker 2>under sixteen year olds don't smoke.

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<v Speaker 13>No, but most I said, I will have drunk at

0:51:56.933 --> 0:52:01.773
<v Speaker 13>some point in the life. Like drunk at some point.

0:52:02.533 --> 0:52:05.693
<v Speaker 13>Most alcohol bands are under aythings has never been really

0:52:05.773 --> 0:52:06.413
<v Speaker 13>huge YEA.

0:52:06.453 --> 0:52:10.213
<v Speaker 2>Good, well it has really because most understand I'm talking

0:52:10.253 --> 0:52:13.773
<v Speaker 2>about smokes. Most under sixteen year olds haven't smoked. I

0:52:13.773 --> 0:52:16.493
<v Speaker 2>mean they might have smoked occasionally, but they're not hooked

0:52:16.493 --> 0:52:21.453
<v Speaker 2>on at twenty four seven like social media and people

0:52:21.813 --> 0:52:25.093
<v Speaker 2>and people under eighteen do not tend to be addicted

0:52:25.133 --> 0:52:27.693
<v Speaker 2>to alcohol. They don't tend to have enough experience with

0:52:27.773 --> 0:52:31.293
<v Speaker 2>it to have formed an addiction. Yet people eleven and

0:52:31.373 --> 0:52:36.733
<v Speaker 2>ten are addicted to social media. So I don't know.

0:52:36.813 --> 0:52:43.133
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where David Seymour has any expertise on

0:52:43.173 --> 0:52:44.373
<v Speaker 2>this whatsoever.

0:52:45.053 --> 0:52:47.693
<v Speaker 13>Not been appeared a little bit which is useful I

0:52:47.733 --> 0:52:50.693
<v Speaker 13>work as a software engineer the tech industry, so websites

0:52:50.693 --> 0:52:52.213
<v Speaker 13>are kind of my specialty.

0:52:52.373 --> 0:52:57.373
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Have you struggled Have you struggled with the consequence

0:52:57.373 --> 0:52:59.293
<v Speaker 2>of children and addiction on social media?

0:53:00.573 --> 0:53:03.413
<v Speaker 13>Not personally, No, I think, in fact, at least a

0:53:03.453 --> 0:53:05.693
<v Speaker 13>depression a lot of young adults. The studies are very

0:53:05.693 --> 0:53:08.213
<v Speaker 13>clear of the fact it's not great. So it's just

0:53:08.293 --> 0:53:11.893
<v Speaker 13>it's the technology to ban any sort of digital interface.

0:53:12.093 --> 0:53:14.613
<v Speaker 13>It doesn't exist. There's no reasonable way. They tried to

0:53:14.613 --> 0:53:15.973
<v Speaker 13>do it. What's the pirate? They went back and there,

0:53:16.213 --> 0:53:16.853
<v Speaker 13>Well have you work?

0:53:17.053 --> 0:53:19.293
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen how the Australians attempting to do it?

0:53:20.493 --> 0:53:24.533
<v Speaker 13>I have, and it's it's really weird. It's not a waysist.

0:53:25.013 --> 0:53:28.333
<v Speaker 13>The dependent social media is so like Snapchat got left

0:53:28.333 --> 0:53:31.653
<v Speaker 13>out I believe of their definition because it's used for communications.

0:53:31.773 --> 0:53:33.933
<v Speaker 13>No YouTube US social media.

0:53:34.133 --> 0:53:35.893
<v Speaker 2>YouTube was the one that got left out.

0:53:36.533 --> 0:53:39.093
<v Speaker 13>Yes, which also is also social media, and.

0:53:40.813 --> 0:53:44.693
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing about there's nothing about snapchat, but YouTube is

0:53:44.693 --> 0:53:46.293
<v Speaker 2>the one that's not been included.

0:53:46.333 --> 0:53:49.853
<v Speaker 13>I think, right, yeah, yeah, and there will.

0:53:49.693 --> 0:53:51.613
<v Speaker 2>Be a group there is. It's called the Do you

0:53:51.653 --> 0:53:54.013
<v Speaker 2>know much about the age check certification scheme?

0:53:55.133 --> 0:53:55.213
<v Speaker 12>No?

0:53:55.293 --> 0:53:56.053
<v Speaker 13>Actually, haven't heard of that.

0:53:56.133 --> 0:53:59.373
<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, that's the UK company that's been recruited to

0:53:59.533 --> 0:54:03.773
<v Speaker 2>conduct assessment of the technology used to determine whether people

0:54:03.853 --> 0:54:06.973
<v Speaker 2>are the age they say they are when accessing social media.

0:54:07.053 --> 0:54:09.493
<v Speaker 2>So they've done the report and they will have people

0:54:09.533 --> 0:54:12.773
<v Speaker 2>involved also, a group of people that will be sixty

0:54:12.933 --> 0:54:14.693
<v Speaker 2>or under sixteen that will be trying to get on

0:54:14.733 --> 0:54:19.973
<v Speaker 2>these devices, so school children will test out estimation with

0:54:20.133 --> 0:54:23.613
<v Speaker 2>tech estimates estimates how old a user is. So there's

0:54:23.693 --> 0:54:25.973
<v Speaker 2>quite complicated things. And I presume they could probably ban

0:54:26.173 --> 0:54:30.213
<v Speaker 2>social media companies that allow sixteen people under sixteen to

0:54:30.293 --> 0:54:33.373
<v Speaker 2>use those platforms, just like a dairy selling smokes to

0:54:33.453 --> 0:54:35.213
<v Speaker 2>under sixteen year olds could get banned.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, I'm sure they I'm sure they could. Look

0:54:38.453 --> 0:54:41.253
<v Speaker 13>as privenationalogy would work, and I hide up that it

0:54:41.573 --> 0:54:44.053
<v Speaker 13>as privilegeology does work, then sure it sounds like a great,

0:54:44.213 --> 0:54:46.533
<v Speaker 13>great solution. I just have very little faith in the

0:54:46.533 --> 0:54:50.693
<v Speaker 13>technology to work. I guess is my perspective, that does work. Fantastic,

0:54:51.373 --> 0:54:52.133
<v Speaker 13>But maybe that's.

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<v Speaker 2>All the parents need. Maybe your parents need to say

0:54:54.373 --> 0:54:56.733
<v Speaker 2>you're not allowed to be on and it's banned. I

0:54:56.733 --> 0:55:00.933
<v Speaker 2>mean that yeah, itself would be something, would it not.

0:55:02.413 --> 0:55:04.013
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something well, I don't know if I'll

0:55:04.013 --> 0:55:06.093
<v Speaker 2>tell you something, but something that I am interested in

0:55:06.413 --> 0:55:11.773
<v Speaker 2>bloring a little bit. Often when there's legislation proposed, and

0:55:12.053 --> 0:55:14.053
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is ever going to be drawn,

0:55:14.093 --> 0:55:19.213
<v Speaker 2>but the Australian one is going to happen. That often

0:55:19.213 --> 0:55:23.333
<v Speaker 2>when legislation is proposed, people will say it'll never work,

0:55:24.333 --> 0:55:27.453
<v Speaker 2>which is a really easy thing to say, because how

0:55:27.493 --> 0:55:31.733
<v Speaker 2>did you disprove that that it will work? But here's

0:55:31.733 --> 0:55:34.733
<v Speaker 2>a question for you. What's an example of a piece

0:55:34.773 --> 0:55:38.973
<v Speaker 2>of legislation that was introduced that didn't work. I'm sure

0:55:39.093 --> 0:55:41.293
<v Speaker 2>there are some, but I can't remember what they are.

0:55:42.693 --> 0:55:44.773
<v Speaker 2>We always hear about things that aren't going to work,

0:55:44.813 --> 0:55:50.253
<v Speaker 2>and it always seems to they always seem to find

0:55:50.253 --> 0:55:53.653
<v Speaker 2>a way to make them work. I'm trying to think

0:55:53.693 --> 0:55:55.653
<v Speaker 2>of a form of legislation. I mean, we could talk

0:55:55.653 --> 0:55:59.853
<v Speaker 2>about that left hand turn rule, that weird one when

0:55:59.893 --> 0:56:02.573
<v Speaker 2>you gave right, you gave way to traffic on your

0:56:02.653 --> 0:56:06.733
<v Speaker 2>right turning right, and then I'll joy So Stephen always

0:56:06.733 --> 0:56:09.173
<v Speaker 2>came in with the National Party and got that overturned,

0:56:09.613 --> 0:56:13.653
<v Speaker 2>one of his great achievements the old remember that. So

0:56:13.733 --> 0:56:15.853
<v Speaker 2>that was a but that worked for the time it

0:56:15.933 --> 0:56:18.653
<v Speaker 2>was just confusing and seemed a bit daft, and they

0:56:18.653 --> 0:56:21.693
<v Speaker 2>went back. But I just want to think about legislations

0:56:21.733 --> 0:56:24.053
<v Speaker 2>they say are never going to work and actually do work.

0:56:26.573 --> 0:56:30.453
<v Speaker 2>So I can't think any time the naysayers were proven right,

0:56:30.533 --> 0:56:39.573
<v Speaker 2>can you? Probably prohibition would be the one thing that

0:56:39.693 --> 0:56:43.973
<v Speaker 2>was not successful. And I presume that was to do

0:56:44.053 --> 0:56:53.693
<v Speaker 2>with bribery and cops gone bad and crooked judges. This

0:56:53.813 --> 0:56:56.933
<v Speaker 2>is the American occasion. But yes, so you might want

0:56:56.933 --> 0:56:59.853
<v Speaker 2>to talk about that also tonight. Social media and claw machines.

0:57:01.733 --> 0:57:09.413
<v Speaker 2>How to beat them? Banning social media to under sixteen

0:57:09.453 --> 0:57:12.333
<v Speaker 2>should have been done fifteen years ago. Children. They are

0:57:12.333 --> 0:57:15.173
<v Speaker 2>so groomed with these apps they will do anything to bypastorals.

0:57:15.253 --> 0:57:20.093
<v Speaker 2>It won't work. Focus on other more issues. I'm a

0:57:20.173 --> 0:57:22.333
<v Speaker 2>national support of but disagree with this. Shut the gate

0:57:22.453 --> 0:57:25.453
<v Speaker 2>after the bull has charged? How will it be monitored?

0:57:27.493 --> 0:57:33.213
<v Speaker 2>Michelle follow the money. Michelle also said I believe that

0:57:33.213 --> 0:57:35.693
<v Speaker 2>Anzac Day should have more importance than Easter in New Zealand.

0:57:35.733 --> 0:57:37.973
<v Speaker 2>Has Anzac affected everyone in New Zealand? Easter is only

0:57:38.013 --> 0:57:45.213
<v Speaker 2>for those that believe in it. Wow, we got Anzac Day.

0:57:45.533 --> 0:57:49.813
<v Speaker 2>Someone says MMP is one of those things that people

0:57:49.853 --> 0:57:53.053
<v Speaker 2>had said it never worked, but it worked well. People

0:57:53.053 --> 0:57:54.373
<v Speaker 2>say it didn't work, and it did well. I think

0:57:54.413 --> 0:57:56.293
<v Speaker 2>people are happy with them MP. Do we have another

0:57:56.373 --> 0:57:57.893
<v Speaker 2>chance to vote on it again, we'd decide to stick

0:57:57.933 --> 0:58:00.613
<v Speaker 2>with it. I think the majority are quite in favor

0:58:00.653 --> 0:58:01.733
<v Speaker 2>of mmp.

0:58:04.053 --> 0:58:04.253
<v Speaker 7>OH.

0:58:04.293 --> 0:58:07.293
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people said that banning plastic bag wouldn't work.

0:58:08.893 --> 0:58:13.173
<v Speaker 2>It seems to have been quite successful. It's a good

0:58:13.173 --> 0:58:15.853
<v Speaker 2>point that one blending of plastic straws that seemed to work.

0:58:15.853 --> 0:58:19.333
<v Speaker 2>Trump didn't like it. America's gone back and they've banned

0:58:19.333 --> 0:58:23.093
<v Speaker 2>the paper ones. I think a lot of parents will

0:58:23.133 --> 0:58:25.653
<v Speaker 2>be upset because taking away their social media and turn

0:58:25.693 --> 0:58:30.293
<v Speaker 2>you're taking away their babysitter. Thanks Patrick Marcus. The classic

0:58:30.373 --> 0:58:33.133
<v Speaker 2>band that never worked was the ban on spray paint

0:58:33.373 --> 0:58:37.133
<v Speaker 2>to stop graffiti. Did they have a band on spray paint?

0:58:39.453 --> 0:58:43.613
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about that. I don't know how

0:58:43.613 --> 0:58:48.733
<v Speaker 2>they get hold of it. I know it's age restricted,

0:58:48.773 --> 0:58:53.453
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I actually think there's not much tagging it

0:58:53.493 --> 0:58:57.013
<v Speaker 2>all these days. I mean, for a while, they're twenty

0:58:57.093 --> 0:58:58.973
<v Speaker 2>years ago and talk aback was a total moral panic.

0:58:59.053 --> 0:59:00.973
<v Speaker 2>But these days, I mean people just ignored it, and

0:59:00.973 --> 0:59:03.493
<v Speaker 2>it seems to pretty well sorted itself out, hasn't it.

0:59:05.413 --> 0:59:07.693
<v Speaker 2>I'm just reading about the Boo Boo if anyone's across

0:59:07.733 --> 0:59:13.293
<v Speaker 2>the story, So Craze sweeping Australia properly New Zealand. La Booboo,

0:59:13.973 --> 0:59:17.173
<v Speaker 2>a very plushy featuring a bizarre grin and sharp teeth,

0:59:17.173 --> 0:59:21.053
<v Speaker 2>has become the ultimate status Buddhists boosting item pop with

0:59:21.133 --> 0:59:26.813
<v Speaker 2>huge celebrities such as Rihanna and Jua Lupa lipa designed

0:59:26.813 --> 0:59:29.733
<v Speaker 2>by Hong Kong born artists Kasing Long. The product is

0:59:29.773 --> 0:59:33.333
<v Speaker 2>sold by Chinese toy company PopMart. Finding collaboration with Loan

0:59:33.413 --> 0:59:37.653
<v Speaker 2>on the storybook The Monsters, recent in twenty fifteen. So

0:59:37.693 --> 0:59:39.573
<v Speaker 2>that's what everyone wants. I don't know anything about it.

0:59:40.613 --> 0:59:45.333
<v Speaker 2>You might have something understand something about that. It's fully

0:59:45.373 --> 0:59:47.533
<v Speaker 2>grown adults, not children so much that are desperate for

0:59:47.533 --> 0:59:49.653
<v Speaker 2>these I want to talk about social media. What harm

0:59:49.653 --> 0:59:54.733
<v Speaker 2>would it do to Bannitt Marcus. I think it's never

0:59:54.813 --> 0:59:57.013
<v Speaker 2>too late. Ban it now and you'll see results in

0:59:57.053 --> 1:00:01.373
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen years Marcus. More importantly, is there any

1:00:01.453 --> 1:00:03.973
<v Speaker 2>rain hitting the hydro lakes? Cheers Ga. The lakes low

1:00:05.933 --> 1:00:07.933
<v Speaker 2>has been dry down southeast. I think there will be

1:00:08.053 --> 1:00:10.173
<v Speaker 2>raining in the hydro lakes. It will be a very

1:00:10.293 --> 1:00:15.813
<v Speaker 2>special thing. Spray cans locked away in hard you don't

1:00:15.813 --> 1:00:22.933
<v Speaker 2>know where people get hold of them anyway, Marcus klaw machines.

1:00:23.053 --> 1:00:25.013
<v Speaker 2>When I was working at my first job at the

1:00:25.013 --> 1:00:27.693
<v Speaker 2>Bowling Alley, there was an arcade which included claw machines,

1:00:28.333 --> 1:00:30.413
<v Speaker 2>one of which was for giant soft toys, and the

1:00:30.413 --> 1:00:32.653
<v Speaker 2>claw was mess if. One girl had her money stuck

1:00:32.693 --> 1:00:35.013
<v Speaker 2>in the machine and by the time I fixed it,

1:00:35.053 --> 1:00:36.613
<v Speaker 2>she was gone. I hit the button to release the

1:00:36.613 --> 1:00:40.133
<v Speaker 2>glorious claw and picked up a huge pink bear. Pretty

1:00:40.133 --> 1:00:42.253
<v Speaker 2>big women. In terms of soft toys and claw machine.

1:00:42.333 --> 1:00:45.893
<v Speaker 2>Side topic, I had a Nippy's five hundred million stay beautiful.

1:00:46.413 --> 1:00:49.493
<v Speaker 2>Side topic two spurs aren't that good? I don't follow

1:00:49.493 --> 1:00:53.693
<v Speaker 2>English football, but thank you for that. Oh what else

1:00:53.733 --> 1:01:01.373
<v Speaker 2>can I tell you? People? A new Pope. The vote

1:01:01.413 --> 1:01:07.693
<v Speaker 2>for the new Pope starts tomorrow. Mother's Day is Sunday.

1:01:08.453 --> 1:01:12.093
<v Speaker 2>The new Miss Mission Impossible movie, The Final Reckoning starts

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<v Speaker 2>on the seventeenth of May, and the budget is on

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty second of May. This day in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Charles three and Kimilleu a crown King and Queen. This

1:01:27.493 --> 1:01:30.333
<v Speaker 2>year in two thousand and for the final episode of

1:01:30.933 --> 1:01:33.453
<v Speaker 2>Friends aired. I don't know what happened in the final

1:01:33.493 --> 1:01:38.133
<v Speaker 2>episode of Friends. This day in nineteen ninety four, that's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one years ago, the Channel Tunnel opened. This day.

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<v Speaker 2>In fifty four, Roger Banister became the first person to

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<v Speaker 2>run a mile under four minutes. And this day, in

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven the Hindenburg zeppelin filled with hydrogen went up

1:01:56.973 --> 1:02:02.013
<v Speaker 2>in flame. So she's a big day in history. Also

1:02:02.053 --> 1:02:04.253
<v Speaker 2>to this happening in Sydney. If you park over someone's

1:02:04.333 --> 1:02:08.213
<v Speaker 2>driveway in Sydney, fine as six hundred and sixty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure there'd be great fans for that here. Now, how

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<v Speaker 2>likely is a world war within the next ten years?

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you forty one. Between forty one and

1:02:32.613 --> 1:02:38.293
<v Speaker 2>fifty five percent of respondents in five European countries British, Britain, Spain, Germany,

1:02:38.293 --> 1:02:42.013
<v Speaker 2>Italy and Spain said they thought another world war was

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<v Speaker 2>fairy or fairly likely with the next five to ten

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<v Speaker 2>five to ten years, if you shared, by forty five

1:02:49.453 --> 1:02:56.253
<v Speaker 2>percent of Americans and sixty eight to seventy of six

1:02:56.333 --> 1:02:59.813
<v Speaker 2>percent said they expected any new confort would involve nuclear weapons,

1:03:02.613 --> 1:03:04.853
<v Speaker 2>and fifty seven to seventy three percent thought a third

1:03:04.893 --> 1:03:06.733
<v Speaker 2>World War would lead to great loss of life in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen thirty nineteen forty five war. Oh that's not

1:03:12.133 --> 1:03:17.093
<v Speaker 2>free cheery, is it. But get in touch. You on

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<v Speaker 2>to be part of the show. Marcus till twelfth, social

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<v Speaker 2>media and claw machines love your talk before the news

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to come through. Oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we think we know why Trump wants to reopen Alcatraz.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Alcatraz represented something very strong, very powerful in terms

1:03:37.453 --> 1:03:40.333
<v Speaker 2>of law and order. Our country needs law and order. Alcatraz,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the ultimate right Alcatraz sings, singing Alcatraz

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<v Speaker 2>the movies. Trump continued, Now, it's not right now, not,

1:03:52.053 --> 1:03:53.773
<v Speaker 2>it's right now a museum, believe it. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people go there. It's how's the most violent criminals in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, And nobody ever escaped. One person got there,

1:03:58.733 --> 1:04:00.613
<v Speaker 2>but they, as you know the story, they found his

1:04:00.733 --> 1:04:03.213
<v Speaker 2>clothing rather barely ripped up, and it had a lot

1:04:03.293 --> 1:04:07.853
<v Speaker 2>of shark bites, a lot of problems. But it seems

1:04:07.853 --> 1:04:12.293
<v Speaker 2>as though it's sharks at freak about So none of

1:04:12.333 --> 1:04:16.973
<v Speaker 2>this is true. But he's obsessed with sharks, and that

1:04:17.053 --> 1:04:21.933
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the whole thing for that. Trump has

1:04:21.973 --> 1:04:25.413
<v Speaker 2>a long standing interest in sharks. During the campaign, he

1:04:25.453 --> 1:04:28.373
<v Speaker 2>spoke occasion about electric batteries and choosing introcution over death

1:04:28.373 --> 1:04:32.093
<v Speaker 2>by shark attack. In twenty fifteen, he nearly landed a

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<v Speaker 2>leading role in the Sharknado three film, So there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about sharks. The Alcatraz history page sketches out

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen escape attempts, but none that mentioned a shark bitten shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it states that one of the many myths

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<v Speaker 2>about Alcatraz is it was impossible to survive aor swimthyard to

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<v Speaker 2>the main lmber because of sharks. In fact, there are

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<v Speaker 2>no managing sharks in San Francisco Bay, only small bottom

1:05:03.373 --> 1:05:06.573
<v Speaker 2>feeding sharks. The main obstacles with a cold temperatu the

1:05:06.613 --> 1:05:13.053
<v Speaker 2>strong currents in the distance. To sure, Trump segue to

1:05:13.093 --> 1:05:14.693
<v Speaker 2>the movies when asked why he wanted to open the

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<v Speaker 2>Toorious prison. I guess I was supposed to be a

1:05:16.773 --> 1:05:19.813
<v Speaker 2>movie maker, he said, after fielding an earlier question about

1:05:19.813 --> 1:05:22.213
<v Speaker 2>his sudden announcement to step one hundred percent tariffon films

1:05:22.453 --> 1:05:30.093
<v Speaker 2>produced in foreign lands. We are talking about the banning

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<v Speaker 2>of social media to under sixteens. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>say it well, but most people a sense of very

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<v Speaker 2>much in favor of it. I am ambivalent, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the criticism is that it can't You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just say you can't do something because it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to work. I think if you really want to do something,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make it work if there is that will,

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<v Speaker 2>and there seems to be that will. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>parents are to blame because the parents enable children because

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<v Speaker 2>they give them phones, and they give them phones because

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be good pair. They want to know

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<v Speaker 2>where their children are and they want their children have

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<v Speaker 2>phones because it's easy for logistics for pickups and change

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<v Speaker 2>of plans and the likes. So the parents are to

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<v Speaker 2>blame it. I'm sure the parents themselves haven't grown up

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<v Speaker 2>with it, so they're just giving that to them and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be easier thing. And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>they give their children their own their own old phones

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<v Speaker 2>which are smartphone enabled, and of course the kids get

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<v Speaker 2>given that. It's like you know, trying to get altitude

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<v Speaker 2>and then down to sea level, you just can't. You

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<v Speaker 2>just go nuts because there's so much there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a parental problem, but the parents have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Parents are busy, they just want to do their best,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems to me they're making mistakes. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess if there is a band, they can say, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 2>the government has banned it. You're not allowed to cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if they've got a cell phone and it's got

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<v Speaker 2>those apps and they say, hey, you've got to leave

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<v Speaker 2>those it's illegal. Give you something to say, doesn't It

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<v Speaker 2>gives you a point of contact. You say you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. It's like if you find your kid drinking

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<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, eighteen, is it eighteen anyway? Or doing

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<v Speaker 2>something else whatever it is, meth or I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the analogy is, but you'll thought of something. Or

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<v Speaker 2>spray painting buildings. Alex ats Marcus, good evening.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi Marcus.

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<v Speaker 15>There you're going complainer of the band. I've got two

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<v Speaker 15>daughters growing up, got two daughters growing up. Really want

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<v Speaker 15>to avoid them using this stuff. In terms of how

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<v Speaker 15>it can be implemented, the government actually has an online

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<v Speaker 15>logan for something called real Meat, which tracks your study link,

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<v Speaker 15>your IOD, your company's office, company registration all in one

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<v Speaker 15>and has all your personal data. Now Facebook doesn't have

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<v Speaker 15>to have all that data. What the GCSA, and you

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<v Speaker 15>know government passes can do that, say track if you're

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<v Speaker 15>trying to go Facebook dot com, it prompts you to

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<v Speaker 15>log in through that before you can access the website

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<v Speaker 15>Facebook dot com. And the only way you get access

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<v Speaker 15>to Facebook dot com if identifies that, oh, according to

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<v Speaker 15>this profile, you're over sixteen, you get an iod number

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<v Speaker 15>of very much at a very young age, under eighteen

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<v Speaker 15>as soon as your first job at et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 15>you know, I don't see why not that can be

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<v Speaker 15>implemented as a gateway to get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 15>They're not going to stop people paming a VPN that

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<v Speaker 15>tells you that, oh, you're logging in from the USA

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<v Speaker 15>or something like that. Kids have to really pay for

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<v Speaker 15>that or go some reary, nefurious means to get into

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<v Speaker 15>that stuff. So I think that's one of the ways

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<v Speaker 15>it can be implemented them shouldn't be too costs since

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<v Speaker 15>we already.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the infrastructure, and talk to me about this is

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<v Speaker 2>there must be a way if because Facebook is operating here,

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<v Speaker 2>they need to respect their rules. So Facebook, TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>if they find that they have got sixteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>uzellers on their site. Surely they can be banned because

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<v Speaker 2>that would be the law in our country and they

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<v Speaker 2>would be not be o bay. I mean, they can

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<v Speaker 2>only operate in our country if they provide, if they

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<v Speaker 2>obey the laws laws of this country. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>some significant times for them if yeah, I know what

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<v Speaker 2>you're say, Yeah, okay, go again.

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<v Speaker 15>You know what what I'm saying is that you know,

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<v Speaker 15>not necessarily a law to ban it, but more like

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<v Speaker 15>we have a gateway to get into the website initially,

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<v Speaker 15>so yes, it's not like it's a legal ban. It's

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<v Speaker 15>more like, oh well then you see on government has

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<v Speaker 15>a policy you have to log in through before you

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<v Speaker 15>can access this website. And suddenly, what's he do you know?

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<v Speaker 15>You can't get into the website if you're under sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm saying if someone does manage to bypass

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<v Speaker 2>that and they do find themselves on Facebook, then New

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<v Speaker 2>Zeidland government can find Facebook for allowing someone under sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>who's a citizen of this country on Facebook, and they

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<v Speaker 2>could actually that could that would encourage Facebook to be

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<v Speaker 2>slightly more rigorous with who they lead. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what the age group is for Facebook, do you.

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<v Speaker 16>Well?

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<v Speaker 15>I don't need a Personally, I have to stop using

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<v Speaker 15>it as off right. But if I'm perfectly honest, I

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<v Speaker 15>think that's a slippery slope. When you start talking to

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<v Speaker 15>big organizations saying or you have to do this, you

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<v Speaker 15>have to do that, it's more like, you know, one, we.

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<v Speaker 12>Just have.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang, I'm sorry, Why is this slippery slope? I mean

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<v Speaker 2>if you ben if you do you find dairies for

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<v Speaker 2>selling cigarettes to sixteen year fifteen year olds, why couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you find Facebook for allowing fifteen year olds on their website?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't say its the slippery slope If daiies aren't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to sell smokes to kids.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, Well Facebook's not only just there for the social

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<v Speaker 15>media aspect. They have a marketplace, so cerdainly if you say, well,

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<v Speaker 15>you can't act this Facebook to use marketplace, do you

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<v Speaker 15>say the same about trading to those same kids that

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<v Speaker 15>want to sell stuff on trading or buy stuff off trading?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you think kids should be on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 2>on marketplace?

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<v Speaker 15>I don't think they should be. I'm just saying what

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<v Speaker 15>defines whether that's social media or whether that's just something

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<v Speaker 15>where you sell and buy goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think social media and the Australians. In the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian example, it's Facebook, Facebook, It's Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram and TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>So Facebook would bean marketplace as well.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, so we have a blanket band across all aspects

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<v Speaker 15>of Facebook and meta applications as well. So that's WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 15>fall into that as well in that case market because

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<v Speaker 15>that's just literally just the texting and calling app.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If I don't know, we're already looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the Australian example, Australian social social media all.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I think it covers all the meta applications, including WhatsApp,

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<v Speaker 15>which I find pointless to be honest. But that's just

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<v Speaker 15>calling and texting. I mean, you know what, what's the

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<v Speaker 15>harmond that's a seen year olds?

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<v Speaker 2>Are your kids on WhatsApp?

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<v Speaker 15>No, that's too young. I don't wanted to grow into

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<v Speaker 15>that sort of stuff. But yeah, I've probably pull a

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<v Speaker 15>lot of parental controls. But what I'm suggesting is the

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<v Speaker 15>government and force parental control in the way I mean,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, passing a law. You know what else do

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<v Speaker 15>we start banning after, you know, after social media, we

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<v Speaker 15>find something else that's harmful be Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>WhatsApp's not in the band?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh good good. I don't agree for what's band?

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<v Speaker 2>WhatsApp Messenger kids? What are the others? WhatsApp Messenger kids?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the others? Don Google, classroom, YouTube and kids

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<v Speaker 2>help line out of the scope of yeah, YouTube and

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<v Speaker 2>the band Alex. The band hasn't happened yet. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen until December.

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<v Speaker 5>There's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 15>Some sort of lobbying because these these are multi billion

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<v Speaker 15>dollar dollar organizations. They're probably going to do something to

1:12:38.133 --> 1:12:40.013
<v Speaker 15>get around this sort of stuff. And we'll never see

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<v Speaker 15>the light of day of the band.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon convinced the light of day Alex. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>It's been hailed around the world, has been the most

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<v Speaker 2>significant policy in Australia. Yeah, it'll happen. I have no doubts. Marcus.

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<v Speaker 2>Your phone is not old unless it's broken, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>no use to your children. Why are you buying a

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<v Speaker 2>new phone if there's nothing wrong with it. I think

1:12:59.973 --> 1:13:03.853
<v Speaker 2>people are updating, aren't they. They justify give themselves a

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<v Speaker 2>new phone thing. It'll be good for the kids, Marcus,

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dumb idea. Kids will just navigate to another

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<v Speaker 2>social media page and then there'll be zero protection. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>much rather my kids using the same thing I'm on.

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<v Speaker 2>Really wow, we were the kids my great too. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch Jamie Marcus. Welcome, Hey Mark, and.

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<v Speaker 12>Here you go.

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<v Speaker 16>Call her, call her about past marketplace. It my fifteen

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<v Speaker 16>year old or is forever getting kicked off marketplace?

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<v Speaker 5>Really too?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah too? They just turn it off. So I think

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<v Speaker 16>it's because he's too young. So he asked me for

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<v Speaker 16>an email address, and he always manages to get it back,

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<v Speaker 16>but then he'll yeah, then they work out that he's

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<v Speaker 16>too young, and then they shut it down. Happened, It

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<v Speaker 16>happened to all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Made what So he's fifteen? What are they buying and

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<v Speaker 2>selling on Marketplace?

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<v Speaker 16>I just looked for like cheap motorbikes and things he

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<v Speaker 16>can fix. And then he tries to swap a motorbike

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<v Speaker 16>he's fixed for something else. Is quite entrepreneurial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, that seems like a real gift for him.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah yeah, so but yeah, they and then his screens

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<v Speaker 16>are always you know, and anyone got an email address,

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<v Speaker 16>we need to sign up again marketplayer. Just anyone plays

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<v Speaker 16>the marketplace. But then they do sign up again, and

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<v Speaker 16>sometimes I won't give them the marketplace back. They only

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<v Speaker 16>give them the faith. And then they're quite funny and they

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<v Speaker 16>feel ripped off that they went through all the rigular

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<v Speaker 16>role to sign up again and that they haven't even

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<v Speaker 16>got it back again.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's quite sensible with the social media by the

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<v Speaker 2>sounds of things.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, yeah, he's pretty good. I was. The two younger

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<v Speaker 16>kids six and seven. They're not on it obviously, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>he like, yeah, we've just moved to the country last week,

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<v Speaker 16>so I think he probably needs the social media to

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<v Speaker 16>chat to experience and then snipchat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he'll be remote. Now, you'll be remote, not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>any one. They've moved them to the boondocks.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeaheah, yeah, that's yeah. It's just funny how you so differently.

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<v Speaker 16>They are kind of self policing it. I guess, well,

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<v Speaker 16>I can only go for meta. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 16>the other like ticked off and what.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate? How they call it meta? See the country fell

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<v Speaker 2>out of love with that, and didn't they?

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<v Speaker 16>Oh how yeah, how good funny? I look at I

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<v Speaker 16>look at it as nothing talks to the camera, like

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<v Speaker 16>because he's the next cop. Like he's just pulled you

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<v Speaker 16>over and he's about to give you a ticket, but

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<v Speaker 16>before he's given you the ticket, he gives you a spear.

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<v Speaker 5>Mate.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, I could have done you twenty over, but

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<v Speaker 16>I'm only going to give you ten because I'm a

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<v Speaker 16>good guy. You know. He kind of put that xt

1:15:58.493 --> 1:16:04.613
<v Speaker 16>cop sort of vibe. And the Trump policies are very

1:16:05.133 --> 1:16:08.693
<v Speaker 16>trump like. Think once Trump came the US economy, the

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<v Speaker 16>Australians didn't want a bar of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You make a good point with cops a because that

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<v Speaker 2>cops small talk when you've been pulled over. Boy, that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be some of the most that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be some of the most difficult conversations you have because

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<v Speaker 2>you're not really in a position of power.

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<v Speaker 17>Are you.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, And I just think he's yeah, Like that's how

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<v Speaker 16>Dune Import to the Nation was like that. So I

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<v Speaker 16>kind of thought he, yeah, there was no compassion, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>whereas you look at Elbow, I sort of talked up

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<v Speaker 16>a bit of compassion and I know he's kind of

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<v Speaker 16>he captures you. But then a lot of my Australian

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<v Speaker 16>teams they are too they were going to vote for

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<v Speaker 16>They all said, are you going to vote for Liberals?

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<v Speaker 16>Because liberals are known to be good with the economy.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all they did.

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<v Speaker 16>I was like, can you elaborate on that? And they

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<v Speaker 16>could have. There's no good with the economy. Liberals are

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<v Speaker 16>only want the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really, how are they feeling about How are

1:17:12.053 --> 1:17:13.973
<v Speaker 2>they feeling about the loss? They took it badly? They're

1:17:13.973 --> 1:17:15.333
<v Speaker 2>good with the economy type people.

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<v Speaker 16>Oh yeah, well they just obviously the sound bad. But

1:17:19.853 --> 1:17:23.893
<v Speaker 16>the uneducated truck rather so. I haven't actually spoken to

1:17:24.013 --> 1:17:26.493
<v Speaker 16>them about it because it wiped me up too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to hear from your Jamie. You house worked out,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, the kids love it.

1:17:33.013 --> 1:17:33.253
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>So the fifteen year old's got a wires end eighty five.

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<v Speaker 16>So all weekend all I could hear was two stroke

1:17:40.013 --> 1:17:43.653
<v Speaker 16>dirt figs sitting around. But yeah know they love it

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<v Speaker 16>so cool.

1:17:45.013 --> 1:17:46.333
<v Speaker 2>No rettlesnakes or anything.

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<v Speaker 16>No, no, no. When we went to look at the place,

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<v Speaker 16>we didn't see one stake. But I think they're hibernating now.

1:17:53.053 --> 1:17:53.893
<v Speaker 4>It's pretty cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Any koalas.

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<v Speaker 13>I think that is.

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<v Speaker 16>I haven't seen any. We did have a possum living

1:18:01.413 --> 1:18:03.653
<v Speaker 16>and we call it the Bossom Ship. It was like

1:18:03.693 --> 1:18:07.573
<v Speaker 16>an old water tank ship. But yeah, that doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 16>to be there anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>What what use the motorbike?

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<v Speaker 16>Oh god, probably too sound and until or something that's

1:18:16.693 --> 1:18:19.013
<v Speaker 16>cold old, But he loves it. Make the hell of

1:18:19.093 --> 1:18:19.573
<v Speaker 16>the record.

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<v Speaker 10>He seems to ride it.

1:18:20.733 --> 1:18:27.013
<v Speaker 16>Around and just m riding around this remn and he

1:18:27.093 --> 1:18:28.653
<v Speaker 16>must have loved the sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the pretty good. Nice to hear from j We

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<v Speaker 2>hold your horses, people with you soon get in touch, JT.

1:18:36.053 --> 1:18:40.853
<v Speaker 2>Marcus welcome, good, how to go good, Thank you JT.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as the social media goes, I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 3>of the band. And the good thing we've learned today

1:18:50.573 --> 1:18:56.293
<v Speaker 3>is that the Axe Party are a bunch of spineless douchebags. Wow,

1:18:57.493 --> 1:19:01.453
<v Speaker 3>what they've done to punching down on woman today. And

1:19:03.653 --> 1:19:08.773
<v Speaker 3>you know they are just idea logically driven the Muppets.

1:19:09.493 --> 1:19:12.373
<v Speaker 3>My son is twelve and a half and I want

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<v Speaker 3>this band to come in before in the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Year as most of his mates got the phones.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. He's got a tablet that he's always using

1:19:26.373 --> 1:19:33.733
<v Speaker 3>and he's one point seven meters tall and eighty five kg,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's a big unit.

1:19:39.133 --> 1:19:42.013
<v Speaker 2>And what's the fact that with the site's got to

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<v Speaker 2>do with social media.

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<v Speaker 3>You try taking it.

1:19:48.573 --> 1:19:51.093
<v Speaker 2>I see what I see? Why? No, I'm glad, I asked,

1:19:51.133 --> 1:19:54.413
<v Speaker 2>I see exactly what you're saying. Okay, well yeah, okay, yep.

1:19:55.493 --> 1:19:58.773
<v Speaker 3>Recently he's even started getting up halfway through the night

1:19:59.333 --> 1:20:01.693
<v Speaker 3>and putting a movie on in the lounge.

1:20:02.053 --> 1:20:03.933
<v Speaker 2>It's going to make parenting. It's going to make parenting

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<v Speaker 2>much easier if it's illegal. And I'm not saying you

1:20:05.853 --> 1:20:07.893
<v Speaker 2>and I are week parents because it would be anything,

1:20:07.893 --> 1:20:10.533
<v Speaker 2>but but boy, oh boy, it's going to make things easier.

1:20:11.933 --> 1:20:14.173
<v Speaker 3>Just just the fact that you can say that it's illegal.

1:20:14.293 --> 1:20:15.893
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, can't legal. That's sixteen.

1:20:17.013 --> 1:20:21.493
<v Speaker 3>That's all you need. And all these social media owners

1:20:21.533 --> 1:20:24.693
<v Speaker 3>and like that, they don't let their own families use

1:20:24.733 --> 1:20:28.653
<v Speaker 3>it because they know the way that algorithms work. I mean,

1:20:29.893 --> 1:20:34.173
<v Speaker 3>I was going to introduce a new topic about did

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<v Speaker 3>you hear about the twenty public halls in the center

1:20:37.973 --> 1:20:40.613
<v Speaker 3>Otago Council area that they're trying to get rid of?

1:20:42.213 --> 1:20:44.413
<v Speaker 2>Didn't click saw the headline, didn't click on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're trying to get They reckon that there's twenty halls,

1:20:50.973 --> 1:20:53.453
<v Speaker 3>and they reckon they need three hundred thousand dollars each

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<v Speaker 3>of earthquake strengthsening over the next five or sixty years

1:20:57.973 --> 1:20:58.373
<v Speaker 3>or something.

1:20:58.933 --> 1:21:02.573
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, should there should be the condition of those

1:21:02.573 --> 1:21:05.213
<v Speaker 2>billionaires moving there restore a hall.

1:21:05.413 --> 1:21:08.493
<v Speaker 3>Those those halls have already been there for about one

1:21:08.573 --> 1:21:12.133
<v Speaker 3>hundred years. They're not going to start falling down. It's

1:21:12.173 --> 1:21:16.253
<v Speaker 3>just stupid laws that they try. And and the crazy

1:21:16.333 --> 1:21:21.053
<v Speaker 3>thing about the many A Toto is the population's only

1:21:21.093 --> 1:21:24.253
<v Speaker 3>ground by sixty people over the last twenty years, but

1:21:24.373 --> 1:21:29.133
<v Speaker 3>yet the other half of the council area, Alexandra and

1:21:29.213 --> 1:21:34.213
<v Speaker 3>Cromwell populations ground by at least fifty percent in.

1:21:34.173 --> 1:21:39.053
<v Speaker 2>The last how long twenty years. I spent some time

1:21:39.053 --> 1:21:41.413
<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of weekends up in Wonca, and

1:21:41.453 --> 1:21:44.333
<v Speaker 2>I just could not believe how much, how big that

1:21:44.373 --> 1:21:46.253
<v Speaker 2>whole three or what I'd ever know that shopping center

1:21:46.293 --> 1:21:49.173
<v Speaker 2>that's gone. I can't work out what population they're expecting

1:21:49.453 --> 1:21:51.653
<v Speaker 2>there is that much gone in there as far as

1:21:52.573 --> 1:21:56.293
<v Speaker 2>retail and lighted. It's unbelievable. It's looking like it's going

1:21:56.333 --> 1:21:57.893
<v Speaker 2>to be one hundred thousand, that they're planning for one

1:21:57.933 --> 1:21:59.253
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand people's city.

1:22:00.733 --> 1:22:02.653
<v Speaker 3>I went to Wanica there for the first time in

1:22:02.693 --> 1:22:06.133
<v Speaker 3>about twelve years, about two weeks ago or three weeks ago,

1:22:06.573 --> 1:22:09.093
<v Speaker 3>a ring up and said about it. And they've got

1:22:09.173 --> 1:22:12.973
<v Speaker 3>that one lane bridge between christ Church and Wanaka that

1:22:14.453 --> 1:22:16.133
<v Speaker 3>mind blowingly crazy.

1:22:16.453 --> 1:22:18.933
<v Speaker 2>And how can you how can you just open a

1:22:18.973 --> 1:22:21.573
<v Speaker 2>city to such an adult rate of commercialization and say

1:22:21.573 --> 1:22:23.573
<v Speaker 2>you don't want a McDonald's. How smug is that?

1:22:25.613 --> 1:22:28.973
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I said, I said that to the locals.

1:22:29.693 --> 1:22:33.933
<v Speaker 3>I think they are sick of hearing about people going

1:22:33.973 --> 1:22:35.933
<v Speaker 3>on about how they need a McDonald's.

1:22:36.213 --> 1:22:39.693
<v Speaker 2>Well, just come across as precious and slightly pious.

1:22:41.373 --> 1:22:45.693
<v Speaker 3>That whole Uppercluse, the area with Albert Town and how

1:22:45.773 --> 1:22:50.133
<v Speaker 3>we're flat and Lake Harware and Lugget and that it's

1:22:50.173 --> 1:22:53.613
<v Speaker 3>going to end up being you know, it's going to

1:22:53.693 --> 1:22:55.693
<v Speaker 3>end up being a city before too long.

1:22:55.773 --> 1:22:57.733
<v Speaker 2>I think it ended up being South South, the South

1:22:57.733 --> 1:23:01.573
<v Speaker 2>Island's second biggest city, because.

1:23:04.133 --> 1:23:10.813
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. Everyone reckoned that CenTra Otago has got

1:23:10.813 --> 1:23:13.053
<v Speaker 3>more populations than the Needing But it's going to take

1:23:13.093 --> 1:23:14.933
<v Speaker 3>a lot longer before that happens.

1:23:15.013 --> 1:23:17.533
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it's I mean, I don't. I mean,

1:23:17.613 --> 1:23:19.053
<v Speaker 2>last time I looked at one o t only about

1:23:19.053 --> 1:23:20.813
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand or something. I mean, but you check all

1:23:20.813 --> 1:23:21.413
<v Speaker 2>the other bit to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I look at those holes. Will they knock them

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<v Speaker 2>down or will they sell them?

1:23:31.813 --> 1:23:35.053
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think all the locals are going to rally

1:23:35.133 --> 1:23:39.453
<v Speaker 3>round and start using them more. They need to be

1:23:39.573 --> 1:23:44.373
<v Speaker 3>used like daily so that the say that the rent

1:23:44.733 --> 1:23:47.493
<v Speaker 3>doesn't increase too much. But also a lot of those

1:23:47.533 --> 1:23:52.333
<v Speaker 3>local communities they've had fundraisers, barbecues and all that to

1:23:52.893 --> 1:23:56.333
<v Speaker 3>upgrade them and put a new kitchen equipment and all

1:23:56.373 --> 1:24:00.413
<v Speaker 3>sorts to try and for the council to try and say,

1:24:01.133 --> 1:24:02.973
<v Speaker 3>if the council wants to save money, they need to

1:24:02.973 --> 1:24:07.213
<v Speaker 3>get rid of personnel, don't to get rid of country. Yeah.

1:24:07.253 --> 1:24:08.973
<v Speaker 2>Well, so they were worried about the water bills. That's

1:24:09.013 --> 1:24:11.213
<v Speaker 2>the trouble. Should have gone with three waters, but they

1:24:11.253 --> 1:24:14.413
<v Speaker 2>two got too antsy about that. It's the key, that's

1:24:14.453 --> 1:24:16.253
<v Speaker 2>why the rates are through the roof. I'm gonna run,

1:24:16.333 --> 1:24:19.493
<v Speaker 2>Joe Tel I'm on headlines, but nice to hear from you, Marcus.

1:24:19.493 --> 1:24:21.973
<v Speaker 2>My friends and I only communicate through various game chat

1:24:22.053 --> 1:24:24.893
<v Speaker 2>rooms for parties, get together a business meetings because they

1:24:24.933 --> 1:24:27.253
<v Speaker 2>can't be monitor hacked on. Social media apps are so

1:24:27.333 --> 1:24:29.773
<v Speaker 2>last decade, so they can ban away. It won't make

1:24:29.853 --> 1:24:32.053
<v Speaker 2>difference to us old people are so out of touch.

1:24:33.173 --> 1:24:35.493
<v Speaker 2>There you go by the way people. I saw in

1:24:35.533 --> 1:24:37.813
<v Speaker 2>the paper too that the hunt Ridge which has become

1:24:37.813 --> 1:24:40.893
<v Speaker 2>one of the recent great walks. A lot of people

1:24:40.933 --> 1:24:43.173
<v Speaker 2>did it the last season, big amount, which is which

1:24:43.213 --> 1:24:43.733
<v Speaker 2>is good. It's a.

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<v Speaker 8>Becau.

1:24:45.533 --> 1:24:47.613
<v Speaker 2>It's a good walk. But the first days are fairly

1:24:49.053 --> 1:24:52.533
<v Speaker 2>it's a long walk first days like six hours, which

1:24:52.613 --> 1:24:54.413
<v Speaker 2>probably as far as great walks go, is quite a

1:24:54.413 --> 1:24:57.413
<v Speaker 2>long time climbing up. So there you go. But that

1:24:57.493 --> 1:25:00.333
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the one that everyone's doing. There's not

1:25:00.413 --> 1:25:02.613
<v Speaker 2>much happens in two we before and after the walk.

1:25:02.653 --> 1:25:05.373
<v Speaker 2>That's where you start from to a tarparty. So just

1:25:05.453 --> 1:25:07.253
<v Speaker 2>warning you, but if you want to give it a go,

1:25:08.093 --> 1:25:10.773
<v Speaker 2>I'd recommend it. Get in touch by name is Marcus.

1:25:10.813 --> 1:25:15.133
<v Speaker 2>Social media and the Claw Machines. Did you know you

1:25:15.173 --> 1:25:17.733
<v Speaker 2>could play the claw machines remotely? Because I never knew

1:25:17.773 --> 1:25:22.533
<v Speaker 2>that you can actually play claw machines, real clor machines

1:25:22.613 --> 1:25:24.333
<v Speaker 2>via your phone. Have you done that? How much have

1:25:24.413 --> 1:25:31.213
<v Speaker 2>you won, doesn't matter how big your kids are, Just

1:25:31.293 --> 1:25:36.973
<v Speaker 2>unplug your modem. What about the dodgy conversations that happened

1:25:37.013 --> 1:25:40.933
<v Speaker 2>on chatrooms on Minecraft games that seems worrying. I don't

1:25:40.933 --> 1:25:43.293
<v Speaker 2>really know about chatrooms on Minecraft. I know you can

1:25:43.333 --> 1:25:48.013
<v Speaker 2>talk to people your friends. I haven't really experienced that.

1:25:48.133 --> 1:25:58.533
<v Speaker 2>I think the children play Minecraft or Fortnite. Someone has

1:25:58.573 --> 1:26:01.813
<v Speaker 2>sent a message that says rap Al curtis a brit

1:26:01.853 --> 1:26:04.893
<v Speaker 2>that flew with the RNSNAF nineteen seventy three to nineteen

1:26:04.893 --> 1:26:08.213
<v Speaker 2>seventy nine during the Royal Navy on the Sea Harrier

1:26:08.333 --> 1:26:12.173
<v Speaker 2>killed today six eighty two. We took off in a

1:26:12.253 --> 1:26:17.573
<v Speaker 2>peer to investigate a contact over the still burning HMS Sheffield.

1:26:18.093 --> 1:26:20.133
<v Speaker 2>Neither he nor the wingmen were of a seen nor

1:26:20.173 --> 1:26:25.413
<v Speaker 2>heard from again, presumed mid air collision. Someone some young

1:26:25.453 --> 1:26:27.933
<v Speaker 2>persons come in and said that old people are say

1:26:27.933 --> 1:26:31.853
<v Speaker 2>out of touch, but I'm around a lot of young

1:26:31.893 --> 1:26:37.733
<v Speaker 2>people with kids, sports, whatever, and they seem to and yeah,

1:26:37.733 --> 1:26:39.773
<v Speaker 2>there are people that are kids at eleven, twelve thirteen.

1:26:40.293 --> 1:26:45.093
<v Speaker 2>They seem to be very, very captivated by TikTok. So

1:26:45.253 --> 1:26:47.933
<v Speaker 2>you can say that they're out of touch, But are

1:26:47.933 --> 1:26:49.973
<v Speaker 2>you telling me that children are into TikTok? It seems

1:26:50.013 --> 1:26:54.213
<v Speaker 2>to me that they certainly are you with your special

1:26:54.293 --> 1:26:57.493
<v Speaker 2>chat room, So maybe I am out of touch, but

1:26:57.493 --> 1:26:59.053
<v Speaker 2>it seems to be the kids are all on TikTok.

1:27:00.933 --> 1:27:04.933
<v Speaker 2>What about kids that want a what about kids that

1:27:05.013 --> 1:27:09.853
<v Speaker 2>want a step hunter. They've had a nine year old

1:27:09.853 --> 1:27:14.773
<v Speaker 2>that wat a smart watch that'll count your steps, thought,

1:27:14.813 --> 1:27:18.613
<v Speaker 2>fidget spin a y, I'll count your steps. I told

1:27:18.693 --> 1:27:20.653
<v Speaker 2>him and started counting his steps. Wasn't of that at all.

1:27:25.813 --> 1:27:27.373
<v Speaker 2>One I was with the other kid the other day

1:27:27.493 --> 1:27:29.733
<v Speaker 2>and they're at the basketball with some of his mates,

1:27:29.773 --> 1:27:35.253
<v Speaker 2>and they said, who's that guy? That's my father? Least

1:27:36.013 --> 1:27:38.613
<v Speaker 2>least he admitted it. My dad was sporting in like

1:27:38.653 --> 1:27:46.693
<v Speaker 2>an Abe Lincoln bed and yeah, anyway, so yes, oh

1:27:46.733 --> 1:27:50.133
<v Speaker 2>he's my father. I thought that was priceless. Who want

1:27:50.173 --> 1:27:54.053
<v Speaker 2>to count their steps? Never wanted to count my steps.

1:27:54.053 --> 1:27:57.893
<v Speaker 2>Don't think they're accurate. Marcus. My wife's son and his

1:27:57.933 --> 1:27:59.733
<v Speaker 2>mate at a claw mashoe at the cinemas the Albany

1:27:59.813 --> 1:28:01.453
<v Speaker 2>Ork and his mate won a toy. So when the

1:28:01.493 --> 1:28:04.213
<v Speaker 2>trap door opened to drop the toy out, my son's

1:28:04.573 --> 1:28:07.213
<v Speaker 2>wife's son jumped and then the door. Who got stuck

1:28:07.213 --> 1:28:09.053
<v Speaker 2>in there to One of the staff opened up the

1:28:09.053 --> 1:28:11.093
<v Speaker 2>glass door to let him out. He was in the

1:28:11.093 --> 1:28:15.973
<v Speaker 2>mid twenties. The twitter the claw doesn't close until it's

1:28:16.013 --> 1:28:19.893
<v Speaker 2>above the toy's head. If you have won one, then

1:28:19.893 --> 1:28:26.573
<v Speaker 2>that's better than me. Marcus. The book style and focus

1:28:26.653 --> 1:28:28.453
<v Speaker 2>and excellent openly inside of the power of social media

1:28:28.453 --> 1:28:31.573
<v Speaker 2>distrectened the vent attention for all ages, not just young people.

1:28:31.613 --> 1:28:35.293
<v Speaker 2>Well worth the read. I've instantly deleted all the apps

1:28:35.293 --> 1:28:38.213
<v Speaker 2>and feel lighter and happier as a result. That's from James.

1:28:45.853 --> 1:28:49.893
<v Speaker 2>If you complain that your Sky sport now lives live

1:28:49.933 --> 1:28:52.813
<v Speaker 2>streamers glitching, Sky blames your into that connection, even if

1:28:52.813 --> 1:28:56.773
<v Speaker 2>it's working fine for everything else. When I was a teenager,

1:28:56.853 --> 1:29:00.573
<v Speaker 2>drinking under twenty one was illegal, didn't stop us. Sex

1:29:00.653 --> 1:29:04.413
<v Speaker 2>hunder sixteen was illegal, didn't stop us. Making something illegal

1:29:04.453 --> 1:29:08.893
<v Speaker 2>doesn't stop anything. It just makes it hidden. Kids have

1:29:08.893 --> 1:29:17.813
<v Speaker 2>to learn from their own mistakes. Well that's not quite right, really, Yeah,

1:29:17.813 --> 1:29:20.653
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think you could, actually you could actually

1:29:22.693 --> 1:29:29.053
<v Speaker 2>say quite a lot to that text. Good evening. When

1:29:29.053 --> 1:29:30.613
<v Speaker 2>I was living in Perth, used to put coins in

1:29:30.613 --> 1:29:32.773
<v Speaker 2>the claw masue at work, never onon phones or anything cool.

1:29:32.813 --> 1:29:34.853
<v Speaker 2>BUTTT got a Kerbitt and a Miss Piggy and gone.

1:29:34.893 --> 1:29:37.773
<v Speaker 2>So when they were providing the Muppets, I see Miss

1:29:37.813 --> 1:29:41.893
<v Speaker 2>Piggy's on a bit of a comeback. She's become a

1:29:41.893 --> 1:29:47.133
<v Speaker 2>pop culture icon. I see Marcus. I'm a mum of four,

1:29:47.373 --> 1:29:50.733
<v Speaker 2>nana of three. Parents are responsible for teaching and guiding

1:29:50.773 --> 1:29:54.693
<v Speaker 2>their kids. Schools should ban phones at school. They have

1:29:56.813 --> 1:29:59.773
<v Speaker 2>that gentleman before saying is twelve year old ways eighty

1:29:59.813 --> 1:30:02.213
<v Speaker 2>five kg states his son is up watching TV at

1:30:02.213 --> 1:30:04.213
<v Speaker 2>two am. So what the government needs to do is

1:30:04.253 --> 1:30:06.413
<v Speaker 2>turn off the TV system at eleven like that I

1:30:06.573 --> 1:30:10.213
<v Speaker 2>used to so parents don't need to parent. My son

1:30:10.253 --> 1:30:12.053
<v Speaker 2>doesn't allow his two children to watch TV at all.

1:30:12.093 --> 1:30:20.573
<v Speaker 2>Monday to Friday TV no one watches TV. Parents pay

1:30:20.613 --> 1:30:21.973
<v Speaker 2>the bill on the phone most of the time, have

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<v Speaker 2>some control over what they can and can't do. There

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<v Speaker 2>should be a phone planned for under sixteen year old

1:30:27.493 --> 1:30:34.253
<v Speaker 2>with limited access. Well that's not a bad idea, but

1:30:34.333 --> 1:30:36.613
<v Speaker 2>you make an age sixteen. You can't do social media

1:30:37.693 --> 1:30:40.573
<v Speaker 2>bomb solved. I'll tell you what. There'll be a ton

1:30:40.613 --> 1:30:44.013
<v Speaker 2>of votes in it. Luxan wants to get back in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he needs to do, and then Chippy or

1:30:46.933 --> 1:30:50.333
<v Speaker 2>say I'll do the same thing. Then there's no difference.

1:30:50.733 --> 1:30:57.093
<v Speaker 2>You've kind of nullified it just like that. Also, some

1:30:57.173 --> 1:31:06.973
<v Speaker 2>decis I've actually just got an email. This is a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just received an email right Health New Zealand, please

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<v Speaker 2>confirm your email address held by health user and tifutto

1:31:19.293 --> 1:31:21.893
<v Speaker 2>or they would be asking via an email to confume

1:31:21.893 --> 1:31:26.533
<v Speaker 2>your email. Would they where this email address in our

1:31:26.573 --> 1:31:28.533
<v Speaker 2>records that you've provided to one of our hospitals in

1:31:28.573 --> 1:31:32.333
<v Speaker 2>the past. It's the bottom it's got, it's clever, it's

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<v Speaker 2>got be aware of phishing email scams. If you're not

1:31:36.893 --> 1:31:38.893
<v Speaker 2>comfortable selecting the links in the email, you can find

1:31:38.893 --> 1:31:41.453
<v Speaker 2>more information on the Health New Zealand to futto or

1:31:41.493 --> 1:31:45.293
<v Speaker 2>a website and search for patient email verification. Now that's clever.

1:31:45.533 --> 1:31:50.253
<v Speaker 2>That's a scam, Adan, But they put the bottom bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Where would I look to see if it's a scam? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I tell my private email. I'll thought it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Include a tatrigion investment to.

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<v Speaker 17>Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have a look at that time if that's a scam.

1:32:06.453 --> 1:32:10.533
<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, it's got me confused. I'm in that age

1:32:10.693 --> 1:32:13.373
<v Speaker 2>age group now I'm probably am susceptible to scams. Scams.

1:32:14.213 --> 1:32:22.853
<v Speaker 2>Did it come through? What come through? Does it come through?

1:32:25.973 --> 1:32:30.493
<v Speaker 2>It's because it Health New Zealand White White. Taha, it's weird.

1:32:32.813 --> 1:32:33.493
<v Speaker 2>Does it come through?

1:32:36.973 --> 1:32:37.173
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1:32:37.573 --> 1:32:42.733
<v Speaker 2>I pushed scent. It's sent from here eleven o nine

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<v Speaker 2>got it? Ere we go. Come on, people, let's be

1:32:46.093 --> 1:32:49.893
<v Speaker 2>hearing from you. Anything else you might want to talk

1:32:49.893 --> 1:32:51.533
<v Speaker 2>about tonight, would love to you. There might be something

1:32:51.693 --> 1:32:54.173
<v Speaker 2>entirely different, random loose. I don't know what you got tonight.

1:32:54.693 --> 1:32:56.373
<v Speaker 2>I just do my best. What have you got? People?

1:32:56.933 --> 1:32:59.293
<v Speaker 2>Also the great walks? Have you done the hump Ridge?

1:32:59.573 --> 1:33:02.413
<v Speaker 2>Have you climbed miser peak? There are two questions for you.

1:33:07.213 --> 1:33:09.053
<v Speaker 2>There's a scam. It's a scam. It's a scam. It's

1:33:09.053 --> 1:33:15.213
<v Speaker 2>a scam. Yeah, Why they're seeing emails to check on?

1:33:15.253 --> 1:33:25.653
<v Speaker 2>That looks scammy though, Hey, it's unprompted exactly why they're

1:33:25.693 --> 1:33:28.173
<v Speaker 2>seeing that. Has anyone else got a scam from Health

1:33:28.213 --> 1:33:32.373
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand asking for email details? And I think it

1:33:32.413 --> 1:33:36.013
<v Speaker 2>is a phishing scam? pH Come on, if you're driving

1:33:36.093 --> 1:33:38.213
<v Speaker 2>doing something interesting, need your calls now. Let's get this

1:33:38.293 --> 1:33:41.493
<v Speaker 2>last hour to go quickly so I get on with

1:33:41.493 --> 1:33:44.013
<v Speaker 2>the day. People come on pretty bad. They rode down

1:33:44.053 --> 1:33:49.373
<v Speaker 2>all those pool Hootakawa trees and Hawk's Bay. Cheapest. They'll

1:33:49.373 --> 1:33:51.533
<v Speaker 2>get them on a security camera. By the way, we

1:33:51.573 --> 1:33:53.853
<v Speaker 2>had to carry outside our house. It's all happened in Bluff.

1:33:54.173 --> 1:33:55.813
<v Speaker 2>There was a ute that got set like to now

1:33:55.813 --> 1:34:04.453
<v Speaker 2>they're looking for someone with a tin of petrel cheapest Glendaya.

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<v Speaker 12>Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it not a scam? No?

1:34:08.173 --> 1:34:12.053
<v Speaker 12>I work for a DHB and they are starting to

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<v Speaker 12>send out people wanting to know confirmations of their right

1:34:16.173 --> 1:34:19.533
<v Speaker 12>email so that they can start doing appointments by emails.

1:34:19.933 --> 1:34:25.573
<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, I don't think I've ever engaged with the

1:34:25.613 --> 1:34:29.453
<v Speaker 2>health system apart from a collarbout about fifteen years ago.

1:34:29.333 --> 1:34:33.413
<v Speaker 2>Would that would that be what they've got it from?

1:34:33.733 --> 1:34:37.133
<v Speaker 12>Could be, But I know with our DHB and they

1:34:38.053 --> 1:34:43.133
<v Speaker 12>were starting to send out them to people that I

1:34:43.173 --> 1:34:45.053
<v Speaker 12>don't know if it's because they're in the system or not,

1:34:45.173 --> 1:34:48.893
<v Speaker 12>whether they go right through the hospital records and just

1:34:49.013 --> 1:34:52.493
<v Speaker 12>check everybody. But I know that our DHB is definitely

1:34:52.573 --> 1:34:52.853
<v Speaker 12>doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment, it was the only gout engage, the

1:34:54.733 --> 1:34:57.013
<v Speaker 2>only way to gain The only way I'd engage with

1:34:57.053 --> 1:34:58.973
<v Speaker 2>the hospital would be if I was sick and fronted

1:34:59.053 --> 1:35:00.773
<v Speaker 2>up there and then it'll ask me my email. Why

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<v Speaker 2>would they're going to be emailing me something, are they?

1:35:05.973 --> 1:35:08.173
<v Speaker 12>Well? Just in case I want it on record for

1:35:08.253 --> 1:35:09.933
<v Speaker 12>later on. Maybe it is a scam with you one,

1:35:09.933 --> 1:35:13.973
<v Speaker 12>but I know our da. You're definitely sending out emails

1:35:13.973 --> 1:35:16.253
<v Speaker 12>at the moment, checking to see if stuff got the

1:35:16.293 --> 1:35:18.533
<v Speaker 12>write email addresses for people, so I don't.

1:35:18.373 --> 1:35:20.853
<v Speaker 2>Think it's going to happen. Yeah, okay, that's kind of

1:35:20.853 --> 1:35:23.853
<v Speaker 2>you coming through Glendre. I appreciate that. So not a

1:35:23.893 --> 1:35:27.173
<v Speaker 2>scam maybe, But I still don't want to get because

1:35:27.213 --> 1:35:29.053
<v Speaker 2>you don't want the hospital emailing you. They just get,

1:35:29.093 --> 1:35:30.933
<v Speaker 2>they'd be just be, they'd freak out. They'll be bad news,

1:35:30.933 --> 1:35:34.493
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it. It's the last thing I want. I just

1:35:34.533 --> 1:35:38.813
<v Speaker 2>want to stay well clear anything else people. That's that

1:35:38.893 --> 1:35:42.773
<v Speaker 2>one sorted out, Marcus. I treat everything as a scam

1:35:42.813 --> 1:35:45.133
<v Speaker 2>these days, lol. I always talk, not really talk to

1:35:45.173 --> 1:35:47.813
<v Speaker 2>my partner or Dan. Seems to be the way it

1:35:47.853 --> 1:35:51.133
<v Speaker 2>works for me. Is this a scam, it's not a scam.

1:35:51.173 --> 1:35:55.773
<v Speaker 2>I've had the same I got that email, Marcus. I'm

1:35:55.773 --> 1:35:58.093
<v Speaker 2>not a huge fan of craw machines. I call them

1:35:58.133 --> 1:36:02.013
<v Speaker 2>pokey machines for kids, they certainly are the gateway. I

1:36:02.173 --> 1:36:05.493
<v Speaker 2>was so hooked on those coin coin shove what they

1:36:05.613 --> 1:36:10.293
<v Speaker 2>called coin does coin pushes. Love those as a child

1:36:10.493 --> 1:36:14.373
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with them, would bite for miles to play one.

1:36:16.093 --> 1:36:21.773
<v Speaker 2>It's gambling, no doubt about it. Marcus had to scam

1:36:21.813 --> 1:36:23.893
<v Speaker 2>the dab won't be saying that to everyone. Only people

1:36:23.893 --> 1:36:26.333
<v Speaker 2>waiting for appointment'll get an email confirmation. Well else you said,

1:36:26.333 --> 1:36:33.493
<v Speaker 2>it's true. There has to be rules and regulations in

1:36:33.533 --> 1:36:36.053
<v Speaker 2>place for society to function properly. The pointers that rules

1:36:36.093 --> 1:36:38.293
<v Speaker 2>will always be broken. We have to teach our kids

1:36:38.333 --> 1:36:39.853
<v Speaker 2>to make good choices and courage them to want a

1:36:39.893 --> 1:36:42.573
<v Speaker 2>productive life. I know people whose sons have never had

1:36:42.613 --> 1:36:44.413
<v Speaker 2>a job and stand in their rooms on their phones.

1:36:44.493 --> 1:36:46.653
<v Speaker 2>Mine have worked since I left school. None of us

1:36:46.693 --> 1:36:51.773
<v Speaker 2>had a TikTok, but we do use YouTube. Around nineteen

1:36:51.773 --> 1:36:53.213
<v Speaker 2>to eight, well into the airport, there was a game

1:36:53.253 --> 1:36:54.933
<v Speaker 2>that gave you an electric shock. You put in a

1:36:54.973 --> 1:36:57.733
<v Speaker 2>coin and held the handles, then tune up the parent

1:36:57.773 --> 1:37:02.933
<v Speaker 2>till you couldn't take it anymore. Come on, more of you,

1:37:03.013 --> 1:37:07.733
<v Speaker 2>let's be hearing from it. Come on, did you reply

1:37:07.773 --> 1:37:08.533
<v Speaker 2>as me dan.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1:37:11.133 --> 1:37:19.333
<v Speaker 2>Dan's replied, okay, so if you sent me an email,

1:37:19.413 --> 1:37:26.293
<v Speaker 2>dan Oh to my phone, Gee, a thousand different things happening.

1:37:26.333 --> 1:37:28.173
<v Speaker 2>I just want your calls, guys, give me a cavlcat

1:37:28.173 --> 1:37:30.533
<v Speaker 2>of calls before the end. We need it now more

1:37:30.533 --> 1:37:34.653
<v Speaker 2>than ever. Come on, what have you got? You might

1:37:34.693 --> 1:37:36.293
<v Speaker 2>have something really exciting to tell me?

1:37:41.413 --> 1:37:41.813
<v Speaker 15>Who so?

1:37:41.933 --> 1:37:53.533
<v Speaker 2>Did you email them? Oh yeah, Flip too complicated. I'm

1:37:53.573 --> 1:37:58.093
<v Speaker 2>gonna get rid of my phone soon. I would get

1:37:58.093 --> 1:38:00.973
<v Speaker 2>a pope tomorrow. What time to expect smoke signals? There

1:38:00.973 --> 1:38:02.853
<v Speaker 2>isn't an exact time. Here we go, We're on, We're

1:38:02.893 --> 1:38:08.533
<v Speaker 2>all on. Give me everyone, you get the other one.

1:38:08.813 --> 1:38:16.253
<v Speaker 2>We haven't got time to expect smoke. There isn't an

1:38:16.293 --> 1:38:19.013
<v Speaker 2>exact timing for the smoke signals that occurs during a conclave.

1:38:19.133 --> 1:38:21.093
<v Speaker 2>Experts use past cloon caves may get you get a

1:38:21.133 --> 1:38:24.413
<v Speaker 2>guesses on the conclave's first dates, like the Cannibals, will

1:38:24.413 --> 1:38:26.133
<v Speaker 2>only conduct one round of voting. As the majority of

1:38:26.133 --> 1:38:28.173
<v Speaker 2>the day we spent taking care of the introductory business,

1:38:28.453 --> 1:38:30.493
<v Speaker 2>including a special sermon led by one of the church's

1:38:30.573 --> 1:38:33.533
<v Speaker 2>top officials. One or black smoke. Could we expect around

1:38:33.533 --> 1:38:37.293
<v Speaker 2>seven or eight local time? We'll be here for it, Giselle,

1:38:37.293 --> 1:38:39.733
<v Speaker 2>it's Marcus. Good evening, Good.

1:38:39.653 --> 1:38:43.013
<v Speaker 18>Evening, Marcus. That's that fishing email. You can tell who

1:38:43.053 --> 1:38:45.453
<v Speaker 18>it's from by the email address that it came from.

1:38:45.933 --> 1:38:46.733
<v Speaker 2>Oh you might.

1:38:48.213 --> 1:38:49.093
<v Speaker 18>What email address?

1:38:49.133 --> 1:38:50.893
<v Speaker 2>Did it come from whereould I click.

1:38:52.573 --> 1:38:54.613
<v Speaker 18>On if it came to you, then at the top

1:38:54.613 --> 1:38:58.853
<v Speaker 18>it will say from I've it's got you know j

1:38:58.933 --> 1:39:03.173
<v Speaker 18>GB ALEX you know at something else or rather than

1:39:03.213 --> 1:39:04.173
<v Speaker 18>you think, oh, this is.

1:39:04.093 --> 1:39:05.453
<v Speaker 13>Just a fish.

1:39:05.533 --> 1:39:06.213
<v Speaker 2>Well I looked at that.

1:39:07.653 --> 1:39:11.933
<v Speaker 18>Who is it from?

1:39:13.013 --> 1:39:15.053
<v Speaker 2>So I clicked on that and it just comes up.

1:39:17.293 --> 1:39:19.533
<v Speaker 2>I can't see where where the email is.

1:39:22.093 --> 1:39:24.173
<v Speaker 18>You can't see their email address?

1:39:25.053 --> 1:39:27.333
<v Speaker 2>No, because it's on my cell phone right.

1:39:28.733 --> 1:39:31.493
<v Speaker 18>Oh oh it's a text. Sorry, it's not an email.

1:39:33.453 --> 1:39:36.413
<v Speaker 2>It is an email, but it's on my You know

1:39:36.413 --> 1:39:38.333
<v Speaker 2>how when you get your cell phone emails, as it

1:39:38.333 --> 1:39:39.173
<v Speaker 2>goes as much information.

1:39:40.973 --> 1:39:46.653
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, what about if you click on reply then it'll

1:39:46.653 --> 1:39:47.693
<v Speaker 18>come up with an address.

1:39:51.013 --> 1:39:58.333
<v Speaker 2>Ah, if you push reply, it says from Health New Zealand.

1:39:58.373 --> 1:40:03.973
<v Speaker 2>Why TAHA can to repatient verification email dot verification at TYPOAMU,

1:40:04.093 --> 1:40:06.893
<v Speaker 2>dot health INZ, dot gov dot in Z. That looks

1:40:06.893 --> 1:40:08.213
<v Speaker 2>a jit, doesn't it.

1:40:08.213 --> 1:40:11.253
<v Speaker 18>It's looking good. Unfortunately, it's looking good.

1:40:12.693 --> 1:40:15.933
<v Speaker 2>It is correct to Yeah, okay, I can see how

1:40:15.973 --> 1:40:21.533
<v Speaker 2>people get confused about that. Sheefers creepers. I don't know

1:40:21.573 --> 1:40:23.533
<v Speaker 2>why the cost wants to contact me too. That's not

1:40:23.973 --> 1:40:26.853
<v Speaker 2>something that I've got any desire for I got that

1:40:26.933 --> 1:40:28.933
<v Speaker 2>email to it checked by a person works with schemes.

1:40:29.053 --> 1:40:29.293
<v Speaker 4>Is it was?

1:40:29.333 --> 1:40:37.853
<v Speaker 2>Okay? There we go. Come on, more calls, more of this,

1:40:38.013 --> 1:40:43.013
<v Speaker 2>less of this, more of this, less of that, anything

1:40:43.053 --> 1:40:45.453
<v Speaker 2>that social media. Let's get rid of it. Let's get

1:40:45.493 --> 1:40:49.733
<v Speaker 2>rid of everything. Claw machines. You might have a good

1:40:49.773 --> 1:40:58.933
<v Speaker 2>story about those, A drunken story about a claw machines. Now,

1:40:59.013 --> 1:41:07.013
<v Speaker 2>what's this about? Pyramid? I don't understand that text anyway,

1:41:07.053 --> 1:41:09.613
<v Speaker 2>Do get in touching on a talk? Anything goes before

1:41:09.613 --> 1:41:16.613
<v Speaker 2>the end, including stories about claw machines. I hate those

1:41:16.693 --> 1:41:18.653
<v Speaker 2>new game parlors that you go into and you just

1:41:18.693 --> 1:41:21.853
<v Speaker 2>win tickets. All the games are all sizzled, but there's

1:41:21.853 --> 1:41:28.373
<v Speaker 2>no joy to them. You want just claw machines, coin

1:41:28.453 --> 1:41:35.253
<v Speaker 2>pushes and those round ones that knock watches off. But

1:41:35.333 --> 1:41:38.093
<v Speaker 2>once you become a parent, boy, oh boy, kids always

1:41:38.133 --> 1:41:43.893
<v Speaker 2>want money for those, don't they. Nope, nope. For while,

1:41:43.933 --> 1:41:45.373
<v Speaker 2>you get sick of saying, no, can I have a

1:41:45.413 --> 1:41:46.053
<v Speaker 2>step counter?

1:41:46.213 --> 1:41:46.293
<v Speaker 8>No?

1:41:46.453 --> 1:41:47.573
<v Speaker 2>Can I mind you?

1:41:47.613 --> 1:41:47.853
<v Speaker 16>The kid?

1:41:47.893 --> 1:41:49.493
<v Speaker 2>The other kid's never asked for self, and he just

1:41:49.533 --> 1:41:53.813
<v Speaker 2>knows he's not getting one. What a remarkable child he is?

1:41:56.813 --> 1:42:00.853
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, okay, yeah, HIZL. Sorry, I cut you off

1:42:00.853 --> 1:42:02.093
<v Speaker 2>before we had some more stuff to say.

1:42:02.573 --> 1:42:04.893
<v Speaker 18>Oh, that's right, I just had double juice tonight. So

1:42:04.973 --> 1:42:09.213
<v Speaker 18>that yeah, the pay equity claim. So I've just left

1:42:09.253 --> 1:42:13.853
<v Speaker 18>an industry in support work, family support work because I

1:42:13.933 --> 1:42:16.813
<v Speaker 18>finished what I was studying. So I've now registered as

1:42:16.813 --> 1:42:22.173
<v Speaker 18>a health professional. But so my industry, which was as

1:42:22.213 --> 1:42:25.573
<v Speaker 18>support workers, like mental health support workers, has had a

1:42:25.653 --> 1:42:28.053
<v Speaker 18>pay equity claim in the works for three years, and

1:42:28.133 --> 1:42:30.973
<v Speaker 18>so all of the legal paperwork that was done for

1:42:31.053 --> 1:42:35.333
<v Speaker 18>that has now been quashed. If this bill goes through,

1:42:35.613 --> 1:42:39.413
<v Speaker 18>then what support workers have been waiting for three years

1:42:39.413 --> 1:42:43.133
<v Speaker 18>for is now counseled. It's null and void. And yeah,

1:42:43.173 --> 1:42:45.013
<v Speaker 18>I just feel really disappointed about.

1:42:45.213 --> 1:42:48.653
<v Speaker 2>And Gselle just looking quickly at social media. It's all

1:42:48.693 --> 1:42:53.173
<v Speaker 2>done under urgency, which there's no reason to do it

1:42:53.213 --> 1:42:55.693
<v Speaker 2>under urgency. That's your understanding as well.

1:42:58.653 --> 1:43:01.413
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, well, it just means that claims that have been

1:43:01.813 --> 1:43:05.973
<v Speaker 18>ongoing for several years that were coming to completion have

1:43:06.453 --> 1:43:10.413
<v Speaker 18>have now been told. You know, your claim is not

1:43:10.413 --> 1:43:12.533
<v Speaker 18>going to go through. All the claims that you know

1:43:12.693 --> 1:43:14.613
<v Speaker 18>that are in process of being canceled, you have to

1:43:14.693 --> 1:43:15.293
<v Speaker 18>start again.

1:43:16.533 --> 1:43:17.293
<v Speaker 13>And so.

1:43:18.733 --> 1:43:21.093
<v Speaker 18>You know, so much money has been spent on legal

1:43:21.133 --> 1:43:26.773
<v Speaker 18>costs by certain unions and organizations banning together to go

1:43:26.853 --> 1:43:28.013
<v Speaker 18>for pay equis claims.

1:43:29.053 --> 1:43:32.053
<v Speaker 2>And I can also see that people are mobilizing like

1:43:32.133 --> 1:43:35.453
<v Speaker 2>there's no good out for tomorrow. They've unleashed some sort

1:43:35.493 --> 1:43:38.573
<v Speaker 2>of monster by bringing this through. People are furious.

1:43:39.493 --> 1:43:43.573
<v Speaker 18>I'm absolutely furious because you think of Okay, here's an

1:43:43.573 --> 1:43:48.893
<v Speaker 18>example of victim support workers. So as soon as the

1:43:48.933 --> 1:43:54.533
<v Speaker 18>police find somebody who's died, like via homicide or suicide,

1:43:54.693 --> 1:43:59.253
<v Speaker 18>they go to a victim support workers there acute support

1:43:59.573 --> 1:44:02.213
<v Speaker 18>for the first few weeks after something like that, before

1:44:02.253 --> 1:44:07.373
<v Speaker 18>they go through into NGOs for counseling support. So if

1:44:07.413 --> 1:44:11.213
<v Speaker 18>your loved one dies by suicide, you see a victim

1:44:11.253 --> 1:44:14.493
<v Speaker 18>support worker as the first person to hold you post

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<v Speaker 18>that event, and they get paid twenty nine dollars ten

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<v Speaker 18>an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And you know, Giselle, can I just come right

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<v Speaker 2>back because and I'm probably guilty of this. When we

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<v Speaker 2>hear about pay equity, most of us probably don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>what it even talks about. But it's professions. We're sixty

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<v Speaker 2>to seventy percent of the profession are women. That's correct,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 18>And so it's like, well, that's women's work, so it's

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<v Speaker 18>natural that you'd be doing that. There's no skill involved,

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<v Speaker 18>which we could say the same about builders, and if

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<v Speaker 18>we want to go that way, like oh, plumbing, No,

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<v Speaker 18>that dirty work, that's men's work. There's no skill involved.

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<v Speaker 18>And the amount of training that support workers have to

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<v Speaker 18>earn twenty nine dollars ten an hour is equal to

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<v Speaker 18>what a plumber earned, I mean as trained in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the most extraordinary thing is that lux And

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<v Speaker 2>has come out and that said could save billions for

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<v Speaker 2>the government. I mean, when has something that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>address fairness and to wipe that saying it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>save billions? Where is that a smart thing to say?

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<v Speaker 18>Is a quality ever about money?

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 18>It's and it's it's intense people, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 18>I'm going to protest and I haven't protested. You know,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm fifty two and I'm no longer even in that industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just well, I see this. They're protesting outside Van

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<v Speaker 2>Velden's office tomorrow and Saint John's. There's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>things that plan for tomorrow from a quick look at.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you in Auckland, Yeah, I'm in Auckland.

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<v Speaker 18>I just think it's so sexist that that women's what's

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<v Speaker 18>considered women's work. It's it isn't It isn't considered equal

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<v Speaker 18>to men's work because it's in caregiving. So what if

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<v Speaker 18>it's in caregiving, plumbing, building, that's men's work. What Oh,

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<v Speaker 18>I've seen blokes left bricks. It's easy work. Why do

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<v Speaker 18>they need to get paid sixty backs an hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Although or I shouldn't do it all though, I would

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<v Speaker 2>presume that most of the a lot of the jobs

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<v Speaker 2>are working for government organizations, are they or for there's

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<v Speaker 2>civil servid jobs, and they'd be right.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, the NNGO is working in rest homes, working in

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<v Speaker 18>for NGOs, so not for profit, so social support as

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<v Speaker 18>opposed to industries that create money, it's industries that cost money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you know, yeah, you mean, have you been

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<v Speaker 2>contacted for a protestomer have you found that there is one?

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<v Speaker 12>No?

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<v Speaker 18>I haven't looked for sexual assault crisis counsel now, so

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<v Speaker 18>I've been out on work, so I've moved understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 18>I've moved beyond. But now I'll find out and go

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<v Speaker 18>to it. It's important, like something's really fighting for and

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<v Speaker 18>I just think that these people at twenty nine dollars

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<v Speaker 18>is just a dreadful wage for that, for the amount

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<v Speaker 18>of risks that you hold for other loved ones post

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<v Speaker 18>traumatic events. I just think it's shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Seemer's report of said brookers saved the budget by

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<v Speaker 2>canceling pay Equity Act. That's from Mary. Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say that, Marcus. We can use an app

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<v Speaker 2>called Google Family Link. We use an app called We

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<v Speaker 2>See What Become deeply promise it can't be happening soon

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<v Speaker 2>this month, isn't it? Goodness graces? We use an app

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<v Speaker 2>called Google Family Lip. You can track your kids one

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<v Speaker 2>of the apps they use. Limit the time spent on app,

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<v Speaker 2>set time limits on apps, turn on off the devices. Parents,

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<v Speaker 2>gigivers need to set the rules. Until my kids can

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<v Speaker 2>afford to pay their own devices. I'm in charge. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that all becomes negotiation? Doesn't it? Just ban them? Every

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<v Speaker 2>parent's going to be delighted. Ban social media. They have

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<v Speaker 2>it when they're sixteen. They make more sense. Tho I

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<v Speaker 2>spent the last four years watching silly videos. Get back

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<v Speaker 2>to watching TV or reading. We'll having new pope tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>with a bit of luck. I refuse to get obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>about the pope because there are a lot of pope

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<v Speaker 2>raggers about the information. But why is the different paper

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<v Speaker 2>different colors? Dan not different chemicals? But originally think it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be just from the paper, wouldn't you. They've always had chemicals.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched that conclave. I haven't watched the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get to the movie as much because I work

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<v Speaker 2>at nights. You feel lazy going in the daytime. And

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<v Speaker 2>if ever the kids want to go to the movies,

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<v Speaker 2>they're dread things like Minecraft or that dog animated one

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<v Speaker 2>that was looked terrible. And I think probably the kids

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<v Speaker 2>at the stage where they probably go to the movies

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<v Speaker 2>with their mates. Yeah, hi, Marcus, I am a key

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<v Speaker 2>with living in Aussie. I got one of those emails too,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that, Pam. No, I won't watch the

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<v Speaker 2>Mission impossible. The only thing that will get me back

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<v Speaker 2>to the movies would be Wicked, the second half that

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<v Speaker 2>comes out in November next year. I will be there

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<v Speaker 2>opening day and that's what I can't wait to see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's got me going back to the movies. Because

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<v Speaker 2>no one mourns the Wicked. No one mourns the Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I was even looking us even I even

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<v Speaker 2>went through the whole met Gala photos to seem my mates.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even remember their names now, the slight one

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<v Speaker 2>and the other one that's sung in the movie Tremendous.

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<v Speaker 2>Could don't know why they weren't there. Got no idea

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<v Speaker 2>why they weren't there. Yef Goldland was there, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think you would have asked them both, wouldn't you, both

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<v Speaker 2>Arianna and Cynthia. But no no sign of them anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>Terry, Hello, Yeah, I'm just before I talk about the movie.

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<v Speaker 6>This social media thing, how are you going to get

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<v Speaker 6>parents to parents exactly the same way for their under

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<v Speaker 6>sixteens or under eighteens. I guess, you know, not every

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<v Speaker 6>parent's going to sort of agree with that, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good point, but I think it would be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'd have to have some steps and balances

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<v Speaker 2>to get a Facebook membership and that you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you would have to go and pretend you're in another

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<v Speaker 2>country or go through some deception to sign on with

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<v Speaker 2>an element of illegality. So I guess if your parents

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that, then that's them. I suppose there will

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<v Speaker 2>always be those parents that want to beat the system

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<v Speaker 2>went there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well I don't. I wouldn't envy being a parent

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<v Speaker 6>in this day and age.

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<v Speaker 2>No, actually, yeah, well yeah, I'm trying to think. I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine the hard thing is encouraging what career to go for,

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<v Speaker 2>what careers are going to be around in twenty years time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the real challenge.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, yeah, yeah, I just I just quickly rang

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<v Speaker 6>about movies. I haven't been to the movie theater since

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<v Speaker 6>before COVID, and I just the only one I want

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<v Speaker 6>I should have seen when it came out and gone

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<v Speaker 6>to was Top Gun Maverick because a lady I worked

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<v Speaker 6>with saw and said it was a movie that she

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<v Speaker 6>would go and see again straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had seen that. I had seen that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was I don't love Tom Cruise. That's the trouble with

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<v Speaker 2>the Top Gun for me. I don't want them.

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<v Speaker 17>There's nothing wrong with the so neither just scary. She

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<v Speaker 17>doesn't he's too short to play Jack Rachel exactly better.

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<v Speaker 2>And he took that woman for a spin, that lovely

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<v Speaker 2>Katie Harder. Know there's something here. Look, I'm allergic to

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise. That would be my trouble.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh, that's no good.

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<v Speaker 6>He's one of the great. He's one of the great

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<v Speaker 6>actors of his generation.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, I don't think. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 6>Didn't you see Collateral with him and Jamie.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant that I did like that. I did see that

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<v Speaker 2>because filmed on a filmed on video, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first movies at film and video. I really like Collateral, right, Okay, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good point. Terry. You've caught me out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember. Yeah, you're right, he cann act. Well. Thank you.

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