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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

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Speaker 2: Ed B at count Good afternoon and welcome into the

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Speaker 2: Sunday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talk SEDB for

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Speaker 2: December eight. I'm Jason Pine, Bevan Dua show producer. Today

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Speaker 2: we're here till three talking sport with you. Massive day

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Speaker 2: for football in Auckland yesterday. A brilliant occasion at go

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Speaker 2: Media Stadium for the Second A League Kiwee Darby Auckland

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Speaker 2: FC winning a sixth straight game. Wellington Phoenix, though becoming

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Speaker 2: the first team to score a goal, passed them two

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Speaker 2: to one on the field and utterly exceptional occasion off

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Speaker 2: the field. New Zealand Herald wright Michael Burgess ufter one

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this one are welcome as well, especially

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Speaker 2: if you were there. I can tell you the atmosphere

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Speaker 2: for wear today but he's fronted up as we all have,

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Speaker 2: as have England at the base in reserve cricket. First up,

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Speaker 2: Day three of the Second Test in Wellington has not

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Speaker 2: been going well for New Zealand. Resuming at three seventy

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Speaker 2: for six before declaring, during which time Joe Root brought

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Speaker 3: To Root on ninety eight, goes to rampadd and he.

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Speaker 4: Does raps it up over the top of Blundell and

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Speaker 2: Joe wrote, what.

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Speaker 5: A way to bring it up?

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Speaker 2: Joe Roots thirty sixth Test century, eventually out for one

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Speaker 2: That's left us with a winning target of five hundred

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Speaker 2: pretty tricky one. Just for context, the highest ever successful

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Speaker 1: Books have the wig at the Conway and he's played on?

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Speaker 2: Is there went forward? Hey Devin Conway our phinose score?

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Speaker 2: We're live at the basin shortly with former New Zealand

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Speaker 2: coach Steve Rixon, and we'll keep you right up to

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Speaker 2: date across the afternoon with our man in Wellington Andrew Alderson.

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Speaker 2: Your input and analysis obviously welcome as well. It just

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Speaker 2: feels so deflating, doesn't it. Let's chat also about potential

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Speaker 2: today after two our greatest cricketer, Sir Richard Hadley's on

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Cricket Hall of Fame. This week Steve Elka

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Speaker 2: coming home to play the New Zealand Open. He'll join

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Speaker 2: us for a tear a chat coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith

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Speaker 2: for the final time this year. And James mcconey along

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Speaker 2: with his regular irreverent views on the sporting issues of

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Speaker 2: the day. Calls and feedback absolutely welcome, encouraged. In fact

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Speaker 2: Steve Rickson fondly remembered here in New Zealand for his

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Speaker 2: two thousand. He oversaw a period of significant success, including

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Speaker 4: And New Zealand have won the match, they have won

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Speaker 2: While he was at the hell New Zealand also won

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Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport. Great to have you with us. Steve

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chris Keens did exactly as he said, six for

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Speaker 2: It's obviously a team that, even twenty five years on,

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Speaker 6: Yesterday we just sat there and spoke about everything and

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Speaker 6: And these just keep on going on, you know, the stories,

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Speaker 2: One of the real features of New Zealand under your watch, Steve,

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Speaker 6: Very simply one of my very very early statements to them,

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Speaker 2: Now good to talk to you too, Steve. Thanks indeed,

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Speaker 2: Steve Rixson there, former Australian wo could keeper, former Black

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Speaker 2: In the series, he's got four wickets for two hundred

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Speaker 9: He's more than just a game.

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Speaker 2: Be bang on twelve thirty talking cricket on Weekend Sport. Oh,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, hi, Finny. A great interview with Rixen And I

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Speaker 10: was thinking, if only we had him now something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it just it's just got a bit

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Speaker 2: of it's just got a bit about him, isn't he.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, can you imagine him with Brenda McCallum as captain

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Speaker 10: And would have been that would have been something, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: It would have what have And you look at the

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Speaker 2: way Brendan. I know Brendan's not quite as openly demonstrative

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Speaker 2: as Steve Rixon, but I feel like he's got the

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Speaker 2: same sort of I don't know character, and you know, yeah, anyway, anyway,

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Speaker 2: we digress.

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Speaker 10: And they think outside the square. But at the moment, well,

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Speaker 10: first of all, we've got to give credit to England.

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Speaker 10: This is a strong I think this is the best

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Speaker 10: English team I've ever seen. Actually, it's very balanced and

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Speaker 10: cars has just got laid them out, just caught and bold,

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Speaker 10: so thirty three for three now. But it's a strong

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Speaker 10: English team and we've got to give credit to them.

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Speaker 10: You know, they bat right down, they bat right down

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Speaker 10: to ten or eleven and they their bowling is so balanced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so oh no, dullas without question. And that's when

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Speaker 2: we can't be chilish enough to just say how you know,

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Speaker 2: how mediocre we've been without looking at the opposition. Then

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Speaker 2: but then you look at the team and you think, okay,

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Speaker 2: how many of the players in that eleven in twenty

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Speaker 2: years from now are going to be regarded as all

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Speaker 2: time greats. Obviously Joe Root will be oli Pope, Howry

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Speaker 2: Brook might. But then you look at that oos Ben

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Speaker 2: Stokes perhaps, but a guy like cass he's only played

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Speaker 2: a handful of Test matches, showed Basha that the spinner

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Speaker 2: hasn't really you know, hasn't really played that much. Even

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Speaker 2: the guy like Jacob Beth only in his third Test. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they're a good team, but you look at some of

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Speaker 2: the England teams we've played in the past with some

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Speaker 2: of the real greats of the game and the combinations

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Speaker 2: of them, and yeah, look that they're good. They're good,

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Speaker 2: but are they generationally great?

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Speaker 10: To know, well, that's a good point that they playing

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Speaker 10: well to ten And I think it's the mindset. I mean,

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Speaker 10: look at how Joe rut got its hundred today her

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Speaker 10: over I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and it's just being enabled by Brendan McCallum.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the phrase bears ball either, and I

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Speaker 2: know he absolutely hates it, but whatever you call it,

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Speaker 2: the way he is, he is, you know, enabling this

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Speaker 2: team to play the way they are is I mean it's,

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Speaker 2: first of all, it's fantastic to watch, but it also

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Speaker 2: makes you think, wouldn't it be great if he was

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Speaker 2: he was our coach?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: That brings us to New Zealand. I mean we've just

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Speaker 10: got such a conservative approach. This, This whole thing about

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Speaker 10: Souy taking a new ball because he's a senior player.

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Speaker 10: I mean this is so old fashioned. You know, you

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Speaker 10: get the new ball to your quick as bowler who's

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Speaker 10: steaming in one hundred and forty in the at least

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Speaker 10: one hundred.

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Speaker 11: And forties every ball.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and you've got Saudi who's struggling to bowl one

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Speaker 10: hundred and thirty.

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Speaker 11: What's that about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know, we know his weapon is his swing

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Speaker 2: and obviously a new ball swings more Dallas. But as

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Speaker 2: Steve Rixon said, we know when the opening batsmen are

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Speaker 2: advancing down the pitch in the first over to have

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Speaker 2: a go at you, you know you you perhaps have

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Speaker 2: to re examine things. Thanks for your call mate, as

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Speaker 2: you alluded to a third wicket at the basin and

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Speaker 2: here comes cars. Oh, this one's greened.

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Speaker 8: We well, I thought initially it was off the pad,

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Speaker 8: but it was the batspoons straight back up to cars

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Speaker 8: and lay them falls for twenty four runs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is not going well at all. Thirty

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Speaker 2: eight for three. The target is five hundred and eighty three.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Rich, it's pretty I don't really know what to say.

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Speaker 12: Finey, It's just I just after what happened yesterday and

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Speaker 12: how we kind of were bowled out in England kind

503
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Speaker 12: of just took it away from us and means I

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Speaker 12: just want us to go out there and just bat time.

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Speaker 12: Even if we're never we're not going to chase the

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Speaker 12: target down. But I just want our batsmen to just

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Speaker 12: knuckle down and actually give it to the English and

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Speaker 12: actually show some sort of fight. It just when you

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Speaker 12: look at our team now, they just look down. They

510
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Speaker 12: just look lacked in confidence. And I just struggled to

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Speaker 12: go from a three nilk series in India to that,

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Speaker 12: and you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, well, I mean that's a that's a great opportunity,

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Speaker 2: isn't it for somebody to go big someone. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's so much time someone can say you're right, I'm

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Speaker 2: going out there today, right, and Revender and Daryl Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: I guess are the two there at the moment they

518
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Speaker 2: could say, you know what, I'm going to get a

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Speaker 2: triple one hundred here.

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Speaker 12: And it just when you look at us now, I

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Speaker 12: just I can't see us spatting the rest of this day.

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Speaker 12: I kind of see us getting out for under two hundred.

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Speaker 12: And that's kind of hard to say that. I just

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Speaker 12: you know, the thing is hippointed. We've got one more

525
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Speaker 12: test and then after that we don't have test cricket

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Speaker 12: to the middle of the next year against them Babwe

527
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Speaker 12: and then after it's West Indy's. I just there's got

528
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Speaker 12: to be some sort of accountability here where you know

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Speaker 12: once this his here is over. You know, people like

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Speaker 12: Gary Stead and our and our batting coach Luke Ronkey

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Speaker 12: and have ask the tough questions and say, hey, what's

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Speaker 12: going on here? This is just it's not good enough

533
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Speaker 12: because you know, when it comes to our all blacks pointy,

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Speaker 12: we we held bent when they're losing. We put so

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Speaker 12: much heat on them because there are a number one sport.

536
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Speaker 12: But you know crickets are number one spot in summer

537
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Speaker 12: and the heat we've got to we've got to push

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Speaker 12: on to here and say, you know, get Gary said

539
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Speaker 12: on your show and say, hey mate, what's going on here?

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Speaker 12: Because it's just the same old, same old. We just

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Speaker 12: do the same conservative approach. We just we play four

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Speaker 12: seamors at home. We never we never develop a spinner.

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Speaker 12: You go look at our overseas spinners that have come

544
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Speaker 12: out here in the last couple of years. They've got wickets.

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Speaker 12: What do we do We play a half, we play

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Speaker 12: a part time spinner. It's just we do the same

547
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Speaker 12: thing every time at home at summer and nothing changes

548
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Speaker 12: the change pointing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was that was fine when it was working.

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Speaker 2: You know, when we had Bolt Saudi Wagner at the

551
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Speaker 2: top of their game, and then Kyle Jamison joined the

552
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Speaker 2: party and all of a sudden we were terrific with

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Speaker 2: a four prong seam attack. That was fine because we're winning,

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Speaker 2: we're winning series at home. But you know, the in

555
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Speaker 2: more recent times, you know, a first ever lost to

556
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Speaker 2: Bangladesh in a in a in a test match here,

557
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Speaker 2: you know, last season, last summer's some series against South Africa.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure can really be counted too highly because

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Speaker 2: of the strength of the side Australia came here, we

560
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Speaker 2: had the chance to beat them, didn't. But these these

561
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Speaker 2: Test matches here just just the conservatism. You're right, and

562
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Speaker 2: look when we're not gonna we're not gonna win this Test,

563
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Speaker 2: we're almost certainly not going to draw it. So we're

564
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Speaker 2: going to be too nil down going to Hamilton that there,

565
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Speaker 2: what what what would be what would be the point

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Speaker 2: of rolling out the same eleven again? Why don't you

567
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Speaker 2: just bring in four or five guys? You know, why

568
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Speaker 2: don't you bring in I don't know, like a Mitch

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Speaker 2: Hay or a recent Idio one. He's only just a

570
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Speaker 2: right in Canterbury. Why wouldn't you give well, younger game.

571
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Speaker 2: He's got to get a game. Just do you know

572
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Speaker 2: your tunnel down, You're gonna lose this series anyway, do

573
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Speaker 2: something different.

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Speaker 12: I mean, at the end of the day, this is

575
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Speaker 12: one more test we've got until the middle of next year.

576
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Speaker 12: What is wrong with trying to, as you say, bringing

577
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Speaker 12: a Mitch Hay, bring in young and say, you know,

578
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Speaker 12: have a go and see how that runs out. But

579
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Speaker 12: it's just you know, as I said to yesterday pointing

580
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Speaker 12: about Tim Soudy, Hey, I've loved Tim Soudie. He's been

581
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Speaker 12: a great player, but I just think that just the

582
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Speaker 12: way this career has ended for him is it does

583
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Speaker 12: leave a sound taste in the mouth. It's kind of like,

584
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Speaker 12: are we actually respecting this test series or it doesn't

585
00:28:44,627 --> 00:28:46,907
Speaker 12: seem like that to me. It's just like, you know,

586
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Speaker 12: he'll he'll if we lose three nil next teas, we'll

587
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Speaker 12: put Tim Saldy on our shoulders to say great week,

588
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Speaker 12: Tim Southey, But it's kind of like, thank you for

589
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Speaker 12: your service. But what was the last couple of weeks meant? Yeah,

590
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Speaker 12: it just seems like a flap in the face of

591
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Speaker 12: the fans. Are they actually listening. It's like it just

592
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Speaker 12: feels like a club side to me finding that, Oh no,

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Speaker 12: we'll just stick to the saying eleven and I just

594
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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, mate.

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Speaker 13: I love my I love my Test cricket, but you know,

596
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Speaker 13: I struggle to understand what's the mindset of Gary Stead

597
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Speaker 13: and now and the rest of them going into the

598
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Speaker 13: Test says.

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Speaker 12: With the same eleven And I don't know. It's we've

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Speaker 12: got to make some sort of change because ctest career

601
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Speaker 12: has to change. I mean, you go look at how

602
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Speaker 12: England are playing this, but we're just the whole bolt

603
00:29:32,307 --> 00:29:35,947
Speaker 12: Southy and Wagner is gone and it's over now. It's

604
00:29:35,987 --> 00:29:39,067
Speaker 12: about time we start looking at developing a spinner and

605
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Speaker 12: playing them in all conditions because other teams are doing

606
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Speaker 12: it but we're not. And going from there, it's the

607
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Speaker 12: same situation with day jes Tell goes over at the

608
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Speaker 12: end of a couple of years ago and then he

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Speaker 12: get stopped beca doesn't play it at home. Yeah, something, I

610
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Speaker 12: don't get it. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: You knock it on your I mean, look, and your

612
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Speaker 2: passion is what's needed in any sport, right. A sport

613
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Speaker 2: needs passionate fans. There's nothing worse than ambivalence, and so

614
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Speaker 2: you're allowed to be annoyed, frustrated, confused and questioned things

615
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Speaker 2: when they don't go your why and you think to yourself,

616
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Speaker 2: why can't we just be a bit innovative. The spinner

617
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Speaker 2: at home thing has been it will never change. If

618
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Speaker 2: a bloke can't get picked for the test after he

619
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Speaker 2: gets ten in a earnings then I'm telling you right

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Speaker 2: now we're never gonna play a spinner regularly at home.

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Speaker 2: There you get, Karen, Hello.

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Speaker 14: Morning, sorry afternoon. Finally a couple of things you started.

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Speaker 14: You spoke about him Saudi in his legacy. I think

624
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Speaker 14: that legacy was already spoilt. I played third great trick

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Speaker 14: for a club and we talked about this regularly every

626
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Speaker 14: time at training, and guys they're already saying, questioning why

627
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Speaker 14: he's even playing. So that just shows you the value

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Speaker 14: of somebody like a trend boat and Neil Virgnaw who

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Speaker 14: held one end up. So I'll take a step back.

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Speaker 14: I know hindsight's a great thing, but why was Neil Wagner.

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Speaker 5: Made to retire?

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Speaker 14: Potentially because you had pins strength, but I don't see

633
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Speaker 14: that past bawling pen strength. Guy Jameson's injured. I don't

634
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Speaker 14: know if it's got google liners. Who's that past bowler

635
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Speaker 14: from Hawk's Bay. They've played him, but they're not playing

636
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Speaker 14: him anymore. I don't like the look of Matan Smith.

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Speaker 14: I don't think he's a cut out. Yeah, he's a

638
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Speaker 14: good seam bowler at home, but not away from h

639
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Speaker 14: Not away from home, he's not a long term prospect.

640
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Speaker 14: That's one is you've lost strength bowls and that's why

641
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Speaker 14: Tim Saudi the other end, has become benefective.

642
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just cour on, just before you met your second

643
00:31:40,707 --> 00:31:42,507
Speaker 2: point on all sid side of that is that Bolton

644
00:31:42,547 --> 00:31:45,907
Speaker 2: Wagner also benefited from sau the at the top of

645
00:31:45,947 --> 00:31:48,507
Speaker 2: his game as well. But yet the point stands.

646
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Speaker 14: Yeah, hundred percent right, It's it's a symbiotic relationship, right yeap,

647
00:31:53,307 --> 00:31:57,347
Speaker 14: So that's one too. You spoke about a spinner. I

648
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Speaker 14: failed to understand why a just but is not playing

649
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Speaker 14: a spinner. Now you could argue Ossie conditions are also

650
00:32:04,027 --> 00:32:07,347
Speaker 14: not benducive to spin bawling. They have been reducing the

651
00:32:07,387 --> 00:32:10,787
Speaker 14: best spin ballers in the world how because they they

652
00:32:10,867 --> 00:32:13,667
Speaker 14: play the spinners at home? Yep, why do we not

653
00:32:13,827 --> 00:32:15,187
Speaker 14: play a spinner at home?

654
00:32:15,347 --> 00:32:15,707
Speaker 5: Please?

655
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Speaker 14: Somebody explain this to me.

656
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Speaker 2: I can't explain it to you. Karan. You're right though,

657
00:32:20,267 --> 00:32:22,387
Speaker 2: and I've said this a lot about Nathan Lyne. It

658
00:32:22,427 --> 00:32:26,027
Speaker 2: can be the dirtiest green seema in the world. And

659
00:32:26,067 --> 00:32:29,027
Speaker 2: he's he plies every taste match. He plies every taste match.

660
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Speaker 14: Yes, even if he's holding one end up. You know

661
00:32:32,747 --> 00:32:34,587
Speaker 14: that's also a role to do for You're not going

662
00:32:34,667 --> 00:32:36,507
Speaker 14: to play your spinners at home. You'll never develop a

663
00:32:36,507 --> 00:32:39,227
Speaker 14: spinner anyway. I'm going to sound repetitive, so I'm going

664
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Speaker 14: to stop talking about the spinner. But I mean we

665
00:32:42,307 --> 00:32:44,467
Speaker 14: won in India. I'm in there myself, so I mean

666
00:32:44,507 --> 00:32:46,627
Speaker 14: it was great to wash, it was great for Test cricket,

667
00:32:47,027 --> 00:32:49,987
Speaker 14: and that was a great performance. But you've got to change.

668
00:32:50,067 --> 00:32:52,187
Speaker 14: Your previous caller was one hundred percent right, got It's

669
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Speaker 14: changed the way we approach home test matches. It's embarrassing.

670
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Speaker 15: You know.

671
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Speaker 14: I put on Summer equals Cricket. I put on the

672
00:32:58,827 --> 00:33:00,547
Speaker 14: telly at eleven am and I see this on Way.

673
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Speaker 5: What is happening?

674
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Speaker 14: The third point batting beaving Conway has been given too

675
00:33:06,707 --> 00:33:10,107
Speaker 14: long a leash. He's been given too many lives. He

676
00:33:10,187 --> 00:33:12,427
Speaker 14: needed to go he really needs to have a deep

677
00:33:12,467 --> 00:33:14,667
Speaker 14: look at his gaming. Maybe he needs a break. Who knows,

678
00:33:14,707 --> 00:33:17,747
Speaker 14: who knows what's going on there? A man who scores

679
00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:21,587
Speaker 14: two hundred on debut has enormous potential. You should play him,

680
00:33:22,547 --> 00:33:24,867
Speaker 14: but he's been given too many turns and so he

681
00:33:24,907 --> 00:33:27,147
Speaker 14: needs to go. Will Young needs to come in again.

682
00:33:27,187 --> 00:33:29,307
Speaker 14: I don't understand something. Who scored two hundred plus runs

683
00:33:29,347 --> 00:33:33,547
Speaker 14: in India? What was the average forty plus forty eight?

684
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Speaker 2: No, but so basically fifty? Yeah, why is he not

685
00:33:36,667 --> 00:33:39,427
Speaker 2: playing again? I cannot explain it, Kuran.

686
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Speaker 14: So those are my points. I mean, it's I was

687
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Speaker 14: I'm from Oakland. I was going to go down to

688
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Speaker 14: Hamilton to watch Jimmy's last Test match, which I still will,

689
00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:51,547
Speaker 14: but it's I've got a star taste.

690
00:33:51,307 --> 00:33:51,787
Speaker 10: In my mouth.

691
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Speaker 2: Thank you for calling Karan, drive safely. I appreciate your

692
00:33:55,227 --> 00:33:58,187
Speaker 2: thoughts very well articulated. Please call again. Oh right on

693
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Speaker 2: hundred and aty ten, Audi's own number twelve forty two.

694
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Speaker 2: We'll get into the Bison Andrew Ortison with us when

695
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Speaker 2: we come back on Weekend Sport.

696
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Speaker 1: The Tough Questions after Turf Weekends for it with Jason

697
00:34:08,067 --> 00:34:12,387
Speaker 1: Pine and GJ Gardnerholmes, new Zealand's most trusted home builder news.

698
00:34:12,307 --> 00:34:16,387
Speaker 2: Dogs fourteen to one on text. Come on, Wellington, where's

699
00:34:16,427 --> 00:34:19,027
Speaker 2: the rain? We need plenty for the next three days.

700
00:34:19,107 --> 00:34:23,867
Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison's in Wellings and any rain around orders.

701
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Speaker 16: Greetings, Piney. Yes, there is some forecast turn out just

702
00:34:28,187 --> 00:34:32,027
Speaker 16: swirling around towards the Cooks straight as we speak. It'll

703
00:34:32,027 --> 00:34:36,227
Speaker 16: come in eventually from the northwest, so in another hour's

704
00:34:36,347 --> 00:34:39,107
Speaker 16: time that could be there. But New Zealand's going to

705
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Speaker 16: need it.

706
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Speaker 1: Piney.

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Speaker 16: Here at the moment where it is, I think it's

708
00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:46,347
Speaker 16: jerrel much like you cut another four through the gully,

709
00:34:47,027 --> 00:34:50,707
Speaker 16: but that takes them through to at nineteenth Mitchell, New

710
00:34:50,787 --> 00:34:54,267
Speaker 16: Zealand fifty seven for three, but they're chasing a monumental

711
00:34:54,867 --> 00:34:58,267
Speaker 16: five eighty three for victory here after England declared at

712
00:34:58,387 --> 00:34:59,627
Speaker 16: four twenty seven for six.

713
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Speaker 2: Piney, tell us about the first hour or so this morning,

714
00:35:02,827 --> 00:35:07,227
Speaker 2: the conclusion of England's innings, which included the the Century

715
00:35:07,307 --> 00:35:12,187
Speaker 2: to Joe Root bringing it up in typical Brandon McCullum

716
00:35:12,227 --> 00:35:14,347
Speaker 2: coached at Team fashion with a ramp shot.

717
00:35:16,427 --> 00:35:20,707
Speaker 16: That's right, nothing changes there and that ethos. But what

718
00:35:20,787 --> 00:35:23,667
Speaker 16: I would say it was a comical at times because

719
00:35:23,667 --> 00:35:26,307
Speaker 16: you had this situation and whenever Stokes came on strike,

720
00:35:26,787 --> 00:35:29,787
Speaker 16: you ended up with a ring field. Albeit there was

721
00:35:29,827 --> 00:35:33,187
Speaker 16: a backward point which was fulfilled by Nathan Smith or

722
00:35:33,187 --> 00:35:36,547
Speaker 16: Tim Sawley at various junctures, but it just had this

723
00:35:37,027 --> 00:35:40,547
Speaker 16: holding patent field to it before the declaration was made.

724
00:35:40,547 --> 00:35:43,547
Speaker 16: Fine it but Joe Rude eventually getting there for his century.

725
00:35:43,987 --> 00:35:47,307
Speaker 16: Ben Stokes finishing on forty nine not out, but then

726
00:35:47,307 --> 00:35:50,107
Speaker 16: he's struggling immediately of course out of form at the

727
00:35:50,107 --> 00:35:54,667
Speaker 16: moment Devin Conway dismissed for a duck and then Chris

728
00:35:54,707 --> 00:35:57,227
Speaker 16: Woke's giving the key wicket of Caine winnings before getting

729
00:35:57,267 --> 00:36:00,307
Speaker 16: them to feather an edge to keep it. Olie Pope

730
00:36:00,627 --> 00:36:03,267
Speaker 16: and then he had also the dismissal Cordon bowl. Brighton

731
00:36:03,347 --> 00:36:05,427
Speaker 16: Calfe came into the attack, got a court and bowl

732
00:36:05,467 --> 00:36:08,067
Speaker 16: from a leading edge Tom Layton for twenty four. So

733
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Speaker 16: New Zealand struggling here on this the day and you

734
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Speaker 16: know we're not even halfway through the Test.

735
00:36:12,947 --> 00:36:15,107
Speaker 2: No, that's that's the point that's been made a lot

736
00:36:15,187 --> 00:36:17,067
Speaker 2: is that you know the weigh England play their Test cricket.

737
00:36:17,067 --> 00:36:19,067
Speaker 2: They advanced these games so quickly that you're right. We

738
00:36:19,107 --> 00:36:21,547
Speaker 2: don't get to the half way test by time anyway

739
00:36:21,627 --> 00:36:27,107
Speaker 2: until midway through the afternoon session today. Look, let's let's

740
00:36:27,107 --> 00:36:29,987
Speaker 2: try and spin this positively. Can you see Darryl Mitchell

741
00:36:30,307 --> 00:36:33,427
Speaker 2: or rich and Ravendra or perhaps Tom Blundell or Glenn

742
00:36:33,427 --> 00:36:36,987
Speaker 2: Phillips batting and batting and batting for the next day

743
00:36:36,987 --> 00:36:37,467
Speaker 2: and a half.

744
00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:40,267
Speaker 16: Well, I'm going to reach deep into by Pollyanna here

745
00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:43,987
Speaker 16: and try and find something there for you. On that note, Look,

746
00:36:44,347 --> 00:36:46,787
Speaker 16: while they're still at the crease, there's always hope, isn't that?

747
00:36:46,907 --> 00:36:48,587
Speaker 16: And you think about well, put it this way. I

748
00:36:48,627 --> 00:36:50,987
Speaker 16: was looking at it this morning. You think that New

749
00:36:51,027 --> 00:36:54,147
Speaker 16: Zeal's highest total in a fourth innings which was four

750
00:36:54,267 --> 00:36:56,987
Speaker 16: hundred and fifty one, albeit at a loss against England

751
00:36:57,067 --> 00:36:59,587
Speaker 16: at Lancaster Park in two thousand and two, and that

752
00:36:59,707 --> 00:37:03,507
Speaker 16: was the test where Nathan Estall just ping those amazing

753
00:37:03,507 --> 00:37:08,027
Speaker 16: shots echoing around, ricocheting around the park for his two

754
00:37:08,067 --> 00:37:10,187
Speaker 16: hundred and twenty two. So they could be seeing entertainment

755
00:37:10,227 --> 00:37:13,267
Speaker 16: to come. Who knows, but five eighty three that's a

756
00:37:13,307 --> 00:37:15,627
Speaker 16: tall order when you think Piney, I mean it's already

757
00:37:15,627 --> 00:37:17,627
Speaker 16: stood for what twenty one years there four hundred and

758
00:37:17,627 --> 00:37:20,547
Speaker 16: eighteen to seven, the Western Thees being Australia in Antigua

759
00:37:20,627 --> 00:37:24,467
Speaker 16: in two thousand and three. That's your absolute peak at

760
00:37:24,467 --> 00:37:26,467
Speaker 16: the stage to win a Test match. So it's a

761
00:37:26,467 --> 00:37:29,067
Speaker 16: big ask the other world tenders. You draw the Test

762
00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:31,507
Speaker 16: in a bit like England in the nineteen thirty nine

763
00:37:32,427 --> 00:37:35,347
Speaker 16: Timeless Test across ten days in Durham against South Africa

764
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Speaker 16: where they had to take the train to get the

765
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Speaker 16: boat home from Cape Town. They were six hundred and

766
00:37:39,107 --> 00:37:41,947
Speaker 16: fifty four for five. They needed forty two or something

767
00:37:41,947 --> 00:37:44,307
Speaker 16: like that for victory at that particular jumps here, but

768
00:37:44,307 --> 00:37:46,707
Speaker 16: they had had to down tools and he's the.

769
00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:49,707
Speaker 2: Train is I think Polyan used to used to call

770
00:37:49,707 --> 00:37:51,347
Speaker 2: it the glad game. It's good to have a bit

771
00:37:51,387 --> 00:37:54,147
Speaker 2: of the glad game. This is it right up there? Yeah,

772
00:37:54,227 --> 00:37:56,067
Speaker 2: this is a good England side. Is it a great

773
00:37:56,067 --> 00:37:56,907
Speaker 2: England side?

774
00:37:57,747 --> 00:37:57,947
Speaker 17: No?

775
00:37:58,027 --> 00:38:00,227
Speaker 16: I don't think so, but it's getting up there. I mean,

776
00:38:00,707 --> 00:38:04,027
Speaker 16: Plus they're putting together a fairly. I mean it's a

777
00:38:04,027 --> 00:38:06,427
Speaker 16: work in progress, I would say in that regard. He

778
00:38:06,507 --> 00:38:08,947
Speaker 16: developed some great players and you look at those who've

779
00:38:08,947 --> 00:38:11,827
Speaker 16: come into the ranks over this mccallumire. You see ride

780
00:38:11,867 --> 00:38:16,347
Speaker 16: and Cass. You see the efforts even with Harry Brook

781
00:38:16,387 --> 00:38:18,827
Speaker 16: but even take a bet will just pick sort of

782
00:38:18,827 --> 00:38:22,307
Speaker 16: obscurity really in terms of a red ball perspective delivering

783
00:38:22,307 --> 00:38:25,227
Speaker 16: with his ninety six almost getting to a ton. There's

784
00:38:25,227 --> 00:38:28,867
Speaker 16: a number of quality players in that outfit. And with

785
00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:31,027
Speaker 16: the leadership of Strokes and said, you've got some senior

786
00:38:31,507 --> 00:38:34,267
Speaker 16: players here, Joe Roots and Chris Folkes and the Light,

787
00:38:34,907 --> 00:38:38,107
Speaker 16: they really are putting it together comprehensively here at the

788
00:38:38,147 --> 00:38:40,547
Speaker 16: baseminent res of just as they did at Hagley Park

789
00:38:40,667 --> 00:38:44,827
Speaker 16: last week or hanging overal And It's yeah, they're formidable

790
00:38:44,827 --> 00:38:46,227
Speaker 16: really and they've really got it over in New Zealand

791
00:38:46,227 --> 00:38:47,827
Speaker 16: at the moment, even if they think New Zealand's come

792
00:38:47,827 --> 00:38:50,947
Speaker 16: away from this historic victory in India, but England just

793
00:38:50,987 --> 00:38:54,267
Speaker 16: seemingly knowing how to crush across the beast out of

794
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Speaker 16: New Zealand.

795
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Speaker 5: Side.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Audus, you get some lunch and you we'll do

797
00:38:58,507 --> 00:39:00,227
Speaker 2: a rain Dancer. There's a bit of rain at why

798
00:39:00,307 --> 00:39:02,507
Speaker 2: can I beat? I'm told here on text which is

799
00:39:02,627 --> 00:39:05,507
Speaker 2: about fifty eight to your north. So maybe they'll arrive

800
00:39:05,547 --> 00:39:06,987
Speaker 2: at some stage. We'll talk to you in a couple

801
00:39:06,987 --> 00:39:07,467
Speaker 2: of hours or so.

802
00:39:08,307 --> 00:39:10,027
Speaker 16: Indeed, I did see some blue stuff on the on

803
00:39:10,067 --> 00:39:12,267
Speaker 16: the rain radar coming through, so we'll see what happened.

804
00:39:12,547 --> 00:39:14,947
Speaker 2: Good Man Andrew Ordison there our man at the basement reserve.

805
00:39:14,987 --> 00:39:17,907
Speaker 2: Read him at MZ Herald dot co dot NZ nine

806
00:39:17,907 --> 00:39:19,267
Speaker 2: away from one new stalks edb.

807
00:39:20,187 --> 00:39:25,307
Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fields weekends

808
00:39:25,347 --> 00:39:28,387
Speaker 1: for it with Jason yin news talk z NB.

809
00:39:28,587 --> 00:39:30,467
Speaker 2: Five and a half to one. Back to the basins

810
00:39:30,667 --> 00:39:33,307
Speaker 2: cast comes in again, Bolster Novendra nix it behind and

811
00:39:33,387 --> 00:39:36,267
Speaker 2: that is the end of Novendra. It was short and

812
00:39:36,467 --> 00:39:37,307
Speaker 2: tried to force it.

813
00:39:37,267 --> 00:39:40,187
Speaker 11: Off the back, but it bounced on him and in

814
00:39:40,267 --> 00:39:42,587
Speaker 11: the end the catch was taken by Pope.

815
00:39:42,627 --> 00:39:45,707
Speaker 2: It was a simple catch. So rach and Ravendra the

816
00:39:45,787 --> 00:39:48,267
Speaker 2: latest man to depart. He's not going to be the

817
00:39:48,267 --> 00:39:51,187
Speaker 2: one who gets the triple century out for six. So

818
00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:54,587
Speaker 2: back in the back in the hatch Latham for twenty four,

819
00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:58,067
Speaker 2: Conway without scoring, Williamson for four and now rich and

820
00:39:58,147 --> 00:40:02,507
Speaker 2: Revendra for six. Tom Blundele's come out to join Daryl

821
00:40:02,547 --> 00:40:05,227
Speaker 2: Mitchell has actually been looking all right. Twenty or fifteen

822
00:40:05,267 --> 00:40:08,787
Speaker 2: balls including four boundaries for Darryl Mitchell. But there is

823
00:40:09,147 --> 00:40:12,147
Speaker 2: so much work to do, so much work to do well.

824
00:40:12,187 --> 00:40:14,507
Speaker 2: It would be a very good time to break out

825
00:40:14,547 --> 00:40:17,187
Speaker 2: of a form slump. For Tom Blundell, you have to say,

826
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Speaker 2: Brighton cass another wicket for him. He's got two for eleven,

827
00:40:21,947 --> 00:40:25,347
Speaker 2: two for eleven in this innings. This of course after

828
00:40:25,347 --> 00:40:27,507
Speaker 2: he took ten wickets in the first Test and in

829
00:40:27,547 --> 00:40:30,427
Speaker 2: the first innings at the basin four for forty six.

830
00:40:30,827 --> 00:40:35,347
Speaker 2: So what's that sixteen wickets in three and a half

831
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:39,427
Speaker 2: or thereabouts innings for a bloke who's really only just

832
00:40:39,507 --> 00:40:42,707
Speaker 2: arrived on the Test scene. So Brighton cars is enjoying

833
00:40:42,747 --> 00:40:46,787
Speaker 2: himself here in New Zealand. The home batters not quite

834
00:40:46,787 --> 00:40:50,267
Speaker 2: so much. So Mitchell and Blundel together with about four

835
00:40:50,267 --> 00:40:53,227
Speaker 2: minutes to go until lunch and a mountain to climb,

836
00:40:53,427 --> 00:40:55,867
Speaker 2: a mountain to climb for New Zealand if they are

837
00:40:55,907 --> 00:40:59,787
Speaker 2: to save this Test match and keep this series alive

838
00:40:59,827 --> 00:41:02,907
Speaker 2: heading to Hamilton, it is looking less and less likely

839
00:41:03,227 --> 00:41:06,947
Speaker 2: all the time. After one o'clock we'll shift our focus

840
00:41:06,987 --> 00:41:09,827
Speaker 2: to rather more positive matters. That is, if you are

841
00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:14,307
Speaker 2: an Auckland FC football fan. A win yesterday meant six

842
00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:17,267
Speaker 2: in a row for Auckland FC to start their life

843
00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:20,747
Speaker 2: in the A League Men's competition, a thrilling derby against

844
00:41:20,747 --> 00:41:23,587
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix two to one in front of a capacity

845
00:41:23,627 --> 00:41:26,867
Speaker 2: crowd of twenty six thousand plus at go Media Stadium.

846
00:41:26,867 --> 00:41:29,267
Speaker 2: Michael Burgess is going to join us from the New

847
00:41:29,347 --> 00:41:33,747
Speaker 2: Zealand Herald to give us his reaction and his experience there. Yesterday.

848
00:41:33,827 --> 00:41:36,307
Speaker 2: Steve Elks on the show as well. He's had an

849
00:41:36,347 --> 00:41:40,747
Speaker 2: absolutely tremendous year on the PGA Champions Tour, winning it

850
00:41:40,787 --> 00:41:43,507
Speaker 2: for the second time in three years and he's coming

851
00:41:43,507 --> 00:41:46,427
Speaker 2: home to try and win the New Zealand Open. James

852
00:41:46,507 --> 00:41:48,387
Speaker 2: mcconey between one and two as well.

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Speaker 2: A'd be hello down, Welcome in one o seven. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine, Bevan Jewett producing today. In an hour or so.

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Speaker 2: Sir Richard Hadley on the show and ducted into New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Crickets Hall of Fame on Thursday. Had a chat

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Speaker 2: to Sir Richard shortly after that. Looking forward to playing

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Speaker 2: that out for you. He is certainly sharp as attack,

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Speaker 2: Sir Richard. This hour, Steve Elker is on the show.

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Speaker 2: He's coming home for the twenty twenty five New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Golf Open. He's had a terrific twenty twenty four, wants

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Speaker 2: to win his home open last keep me to do

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Speaker 2: it Michael Henry twenty seventeen and Steve Elker do it

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. He's going to join us for

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Speaker 2: an very surely we'll look back at the Aleg Derby.

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Speaker 2: And James mconey is on the show as well this hour,

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Speaker 2: as he always is between one and two on our Sundays,

872
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Speaker 2: to give us his irreverent look at the sporting issues

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Speaker 2: of the day. So New Zealand, as you heard in

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Speaker 2: our Sports news, have gone to lunch on day three

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Speaker 2: at the basin fifty nine for four, fifty nine for four,

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Speaker 2: needing these matter of five hundred and twenty four more

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Speaker 2: runs to win this Test match and only six wickets

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Speaker 2: left Darryl Mitchell unbeaten. On twenty Tom blundeles out there

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Speaker 2: but yet to face a ball. They will resume at

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Speaker 2: around one point forty. We will keep you right up

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Speaker 2: to date with that. It's just gone eight past one.

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Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Garnoholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

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Speaker 1: news Dogs n B T.

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Speaker 2: Take cam fum storming brilliance gave a football electric glue

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Speaker 2: in the derby. Six on the bounce for Auckland f C.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Six in a row for Auckland f C. Their winning

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Speaker 2: A league runs six games a two to one win

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Speaker 2: over the Wellington Phoenix at Mount Smart yesterday. Auckland goals came.

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Speaker 2: Auckland's goals came via an own goal in the first

892
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Speaker 2: half from Phoenix defender Isaac Hughes and a second half

893
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Speaker 2: header from Nando Pine. For the first time. They conceded

894
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Speaker 2: cost of Barbarussa striking late in the second half, but

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Speaker 2: not enough. Auckland held on to win a thrilling encounter

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Speaker 2: to one. New Zealand Herald football writer Michael Burgess was

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Speaker 2: on hand to witness it all play out. You can

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Speaker 2: read him at enzid Herald dot co dot enz He

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Speaker 2: joins us now Birch, can we start with the occasion yesterday?

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Speaker 2: How would you describe it?

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Speaker 11: Get our pony? Yeah, I thought, I thought it was amazing.

902
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Speaker 11: I really did like like sometimes these things might not

903
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Speaker 11: quite live up to the hype, and there's a lot

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Speaker 11: of hype ahead of this match, but it truly did.

905
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Speaker 11: It was just we were talking after the game, weren't

906
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Speaker 11: we It didn't really feel like New Zealand. It felt

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Speaker 11: that we were somewhere else, were in Argentina or England

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Speaker 11: or somewhere where fans go a bit crazy. Because the singing,

909
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Speaker 11: the chanting, the band, to the emotion, there was really

910
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Speaker 11: something special in the air. The large continuent of Phoenix fans,

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Speaker 11: probably about fifteen hundred imagine, they really made the occasion,

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Speaker 11: I thought, because they were providing, you know, that section

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Speaker 11: of away fans. You don't often get New Zealand's sported contest.

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Speaker 5: So that was magic.

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Speaker 11: And just I don't know everything about it. And then

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Speaker 11: as you just said, the game kind of lived up

917
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Speaker 11: to it as well. Sometimes derby games can be stalemate,

918
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Speaker 11: can be very tight, but it was pretty open, lots

919
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Speaker 11: of action. So yeah, it was just a wonderful and

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Speaker 11: quite a novel occasion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't. And I've been trying to unpick exactly

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Speaker 2: how this has happened so quickly the Darby. You think

923
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Speaker 2: you're right. I think we're going to give kudos to

924
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Speaker 2: the traveling fans and when you're you know, around the world,

925
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Speaker 2: that's often what makes an occasion like a football game,

926
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Speaker 2: you know, really fizz is the fact that there are

927
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Speaker 2: some away fans who make a lot of noise. But

928
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Speaker 2: how have Auckland FC so quickly generated this fan base

929
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Speaker 2: that is so different from I think that's probably I

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Speaker 2: don't think Yellow Fevers it took them ages to get

931
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Speaker 2: to you know, to get to the sweet spot of

932
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Speaker 2: their life. How have Awkland the FC done it so quickly?

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Speaker 11: That's one of the big questions, isn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 11: Yellow Fever did provide a template. So you've got to

935
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Speaker 11: give credit to yellow Fever because they've provided you know,

936
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Speaker 11: they've shown what what real passionate fandom is about. But

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Speaker 11: as you say, it built up over a long time. Awklanle' said,

938
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Speaker 11: we're very smart. They engage with the port very early.

939
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Speaker 11: They've got a very heavy presence on social media, so

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Speaker 11: they've tapped into to that sort of young market and

941
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Speaker 11: most of the port from what I see, are quite young.

942
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Speaker 11: The results have helped and mount smart is quite a

943
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Speaker 11: good setup for creating that atmosphere. But it's pretty amazing

944
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Speaker 11: Piney that people care so much about this team already.

945
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Speaker 11: You know, it's not it's not it's not fake, it's

946
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Speaker 11: really genuine. And the other thing that I'm equally is

947
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Speaker 11: amazed about is this rivalry, Like it's it's so new.

948
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Speaker 11: You know, Orkan's played their first game two months listened

949
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Speaker 11: two months ago. They've only been in distance for less

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Speaker 11: than a year, so it's so new, this rivalry. But

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Speaker 11: it feels really genuine between these two clubs. Normally these

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Speaker 11: things take a while to develop, but this is I

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Speaker 11: don't know, it feels like it's one of the best

954
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Speaker 11: rivalries in New Zealand sport. It really does.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, I could not agree more. I read that

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Speaker 2: in your piece this morning, and you're so right. The

957
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Speaker 2: tension between these clubs, you know, the back and forth

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Speaker 2: during a week and also what happened on the park.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could see just one example yesterday Alex

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Speaker 2: Ruffer and and you know coming together with Louis Toomey

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Speaker 2: after something to me did in the last derby. It

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Speaker 2: feels as though, you know, the narrative is already being written,

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Speaker 2: and I think everybody's now wondering when the next one is.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I just I just wish there was

965
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Speaker 11: four derbies this season, like another one and willing to

966
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Speaker 11: and really top it off. But you're exactly right, because

967
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Speaker 11: because we wondered if we truly see this, this made

968
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Speaker 11: against mate thing that you see the Manchester Derby, the

969
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Speaker 11: Liverpool Derby, all these other ones. But we did you know,

970
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Speaker 11: in the first five minutes yesterday, cost of Barbaroussis barreled

971
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Speaker 11: in Tornando Pineker barreled them over. And they've been teammates

972
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Speaker 11: in the Wits for years, you know, I'm sure they're

973
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Speaker 11: good friends, have been playing together for five six years.

974
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Speaker 11: But you know, Costers were in yellow, Nandez were in blue,

975
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Speaker 11: and when you cross that white line, it all changes.

976
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Speaker 11: So I just I just think that the recipe is

977
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Speaker 11: already there. It's a it's a Marketer's dream. And like

978
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Speaker 11: you say, there's already narratives around this. There's already narratives

979
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Speaker 11: around you know, the Phoenix Keeper having a couple of

980
00:48:44,867 --> 00:48:49,227
Speaker 11: unfortunate moments. There's already a couple of villains, and there's

981
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Speaker 11: a couple of heroes. So it's just unfolding unfolding perfectly.

982
00:48:54,307 --> 00:48:56,667
Speaker 2: Did you think Auckland FC deserved to win the game?

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Speaker 11: They did?

984
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Speaker 5: They did.

985
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Speaker 11: I think they were they were the they were the

986
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Speaker 11: better team. They handled their casion a bit better. Again,

987
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Speaker 11: it's felt that the occasion got to the Phoenix to

988
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Speaker 11: some degree, but it also felt for the Phoenix. I

989
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Speaker 11: think they'll leave with some regrets. If that game had

990
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Speaker 11: ended a draw, people would have been saying, yeah, okay,

991
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Speaker 11: that's probably fair enough too. So I thought the Phoenix

992
00:49:23,667 --> 00:49:27,827
Speaker 11: played a lot better than they did in Wellington. They

993
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Speaker 11: created some good some good moments, but you know, two

994
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Speaker 11: two really unfortunate, probably Paul goals to concede in this

995
00:49:37,627 --> 00:49:41,907
Speaker 11: type of game, especially the first one, that's so deflating.

996
00:49:42,427 --> 00:49:46,027
Speaker 11: So it felt like they didn't bring their best again,

997
00:49:46,107 --> 00:49:48,787
Speaker 11: some of the some of their senior players let them down.

998
00:49:48,827 --> 00:49:52,827
Speaker 11: Auckland went, Auckland went perfect, but they were just they

999
00:49:52,827 --> 00:49:55,787
Speaker 11: were just a bit more together when it mattered.

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Speaker 2: They did consider goal. Finally, it was interesting afterwards they

1001
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Speaker 2: won the game, but you know, listening to the thoughts

1002
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Speaker 2: of Dan Hall, for example, who actually held his hand

1003
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Speaker 2: up to say the guy gave the ball away that

1004
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Speaker 2: led to Wellington's goal, that they were disappointed that this

1005
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Speaker 2: long clean sheet streak, that that fashion had finally come

1006
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Speaker 2: to an end. I guess that speaks to something deeper

1007
00:50:16,827 --> 00:50:19,627
Speaker 2: than the side when even in victory you're still a

1008
00:50:19,627 --> 00:50:20,427
Speaker 2: bit disappointed.

1009
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it does.

1010
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Speaker 11: They were so proud of this clean sheet streak because

1011
00:50:26,147 --> 00:50:30,067
Speaker 11: it's pretty amazing. Anyone who follows football knows how hard

1012
00:50:30,067 --> 00:50:31,867
Speaker 11: it is to keep that sort of thing going, and

1013
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Speaker 11: the Defenders club in particular, we're just loving the fact

1014
00:50:36,347 --> 00:50:39,147
Speaker 11: that they hadn't conceded, so for one of them to

1015
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Speaker 11: be at fault, they took it pretty hard. And also

1016
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Speaker 11: because they'd made it till the eighty first eighty second minute,

1017
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Speaker 11: hadn't they So so we're all we're going to do

1018
00:50:48,427 --> 00:50:55,027
Speaker 11: it again. But it does show the just the level

1019
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Speaker 11: that Auckland have brought to this in terms of the standards.

1020
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Speaker 11: You know, they look back to your other question, it

1021
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Speaker 11: is quite amazing, not just the fact that Auckland have

1022
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Speaker 11: built this fan base, but also what they built on

1023
00:51:08,187 --> 00:51:11,547
Speaker 11: the field. You know, they've built this culture, this cohesion,

1024
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Speaker 11: this environment. It sort of still feels to me this

1025
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Speaker 11: season that actually Wellington feel like the newer team. It

1026
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Speaker 11: feels that to me Wellington will take longer to gel

1027
00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:25,147
Speaker 11: this season and the Phoenix get a lot better, but

1028
00:51:25,187 --> 00:51:27,627
Speaker 11: they're still they're still gelling because they fair enough, they

1029
00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:30,627
Speaker 11: did have that massive turnover players in the off season.

1030
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Speaker 11: But yeah, it feels like Auckland have found their structure faster.

1031
00:51:36,907 --> 00:51:39,907
Speaker 2: After the game. In the postmatch media conference that you

1032
00:51:39,947 --> 00:51:43,027
Speaker 2: and I were both at, Auckland coach Steve Coricker called

1033
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Speaker 2: his Phoenix counterpart gim Calo Italiano disrespectful in the wake

1034
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Speaker 2: of some comments that Jihn Callo Italiana made during the week.

1035
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Speaker 2: Steve Corker said he used them as pre match motivation

1036
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Speaker 2: for his squad, pin them up on the dressing room wall,

1037
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Speaker 2: no less burds. What did you make of all of that?

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, for us in the media and

1039
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Speaker 11: for fans, it's great. And we talk about now arrative.

1040
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Speaker 11: This is another one, you know, the good old putting

1041
00:52:10,187 --> 00:52:11,867
Speaker 11: them up in the wall. We kind of thought those

1042
00:52:11,947 --> 00:52:14,267
Speaker 11: days were gone. You know, that's just sort of from

1043
00:52:14,307 --> 00:52:17,347
Speaker 11: the the eighties and nineties. Look at what those bastards.

1044
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Speaker 18: Said about us.

1045
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Speaker 11: But still it still works. And as Craker said in

1046
00:52:21,467 --> 00:52:26,947
Speaker 11: a derby, every little inch matters, and that was definitely

1047
00:52:27,707 --> 00:52:31,667
Speaker 11: definitely motivation. Uh and and you know the other thing

1048
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Speaker 11: about this is that gin Carlo and Steve, you know,

1049
00:52:34,867 --> 00:52:37,627
Speaker 11: they've they've known each other a long time. They're kind of,

1050
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Speaker 11: you know, they're not I guess they're not mates at

1051
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Speaker 11: the moment, but but they've been you know, acquaintances and

1052
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Speaker 11: kind of friends. So so that's probably what really got

1053
00:52:46,707 --> 00:52:48,627
Speaker 11: to Caracer as well, was he thought, wait a minute,

1054
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Speaker 11: you know, we we deserve a bit more respect. There

1055
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Speaker 11: was an interesting thing to say, but but I like

1056
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Speaker 11: gin Carlo because he's very honest. He's very honest, and

1057
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Speaker 11: that that definitely spiced up the derby. You wouldn't want

1058
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Speaker 11: him to lose a bit of their honesty. But yeah,

1059
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Speaker 11: I guess you can debate, you can debate his comments.

1060
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Speaker 11: The main thing he was saying, maybe the word lucky

1061
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Speaker 11: was a bit, a bit I'm not right to use,

1062
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Speaker 11: but he was mainly just saying that the Auckland have

1063
00:53:13,667 --> 00:53:16,547
Speaker 11: benefited from a from what he sees as a soft

1064
00:53:16,547 --> 00:53:19,787
Speaker 11: schedule to start the season, which has given them this

1065
00:53:19,787 --> 00:53:22,827
Speaker 11: this momentum. And obviously Corker took umbrage at that, as

1066
00:53:22,827 --> 00:53:25,827
Speaker 11: well as some other comments. But yeah, that that topped

1067
00:53:25,827 --> 00:53:27,747
Speaker 11: off the night, didn't it, Because you've got things that

1068
00:53:27,827 --> 00:53:30,227
Speaker 11: you just do not normally hear coaches say.

1069
00:53:30,267 --> 00:53:33,027
Speaker 2: In New Zealand Sports absolutely gonna play Cracker's comments in

1070
00:53:33,067 --> 00:53:35,747
Speaker 2: just a moment, just to finish thy burge. Are Auckland

1071
00:53:35,827 --> 00:53:38,907
Speaker 2: FC actually title contenders in their first season?

1072
00:53:41,587 --> 00:53:45,907
Speaker 11: Yeah? We we probably didn't think that. You know, I

1073
00:53:45,907 --> 00:53:48,707
Speaker 11: remember speaking to you about this a few months ago, Piney,

1074
00:53:48,747 --> 00:53:50,867
Speaker 11: and we sort of thought, you know, they've got a

1075
00:53:50,867 --> 00:53:54,667
Speaker 11: good roster. But you know, it's way too much to ask. Look,

1076
00:53:54,707 --> 00:53:59,147
Speaker 11: it's it's way too early to to really know. But

1077
00:54:00,467 --> 00:54:03,187
Speaker 11: they've done everything they can to be taken seriously. I mean,

1078
00:54:03,467 --> 00:54:06,027
Speaker 11: there's a couple of things you'd say. Number one, no

1079
00:54:06,107 --> 00:54:08,467
Speaker 11: team is going to want look forward to coming to

1080
00:54:08,507 --> 00:54:11,067
Speaker 11: Mount Smart and there's really not many teams that you

1081
00:54:11,107 --> 00:54:13,547
Speaker 11: can see that are going to take points from Mount

1082
00:54:13,587 --> 00:54:18,187
Speaker 11: Smart if Auckland keep up these levels. You know, Auckland

1083
00:54:18,467 --> 00:54:21,867
Speaker 11: they've got big tests away in Melbourne City this week,

1084
00:54:21,907 --> 00:54:24,067
Speaker 11: but if they get through that and they've got Western

1085
00:54:24,147 --> 00:54:26,187
Speaker 11: United at home the week after, they'll they'll get past

1086
00:54:26,267 --> 00:54:30,067
Speaker 11: Christmas still unbeaten. So you know, momentum is a big thing.

1087
00:54:30,587 --> 00:54:32,907
Speaker 11: At some stage, they'll hit the wall with injuries with

1088
00:54:32,987 --> 00:54:36,107
Speaker 11: maybe a suspension. And also they look like a they

1089
00:54:36,147 --> 00:54:38,907
Speaker 11: look like a super fit team. The fitness base has

1090
00:54:38,907 --> 00:54:41,467
Speaker 11: been incredible, and sometimes when you're so fit to start

1091
00:54:41,507 --> 00:54:45,307
Speaker 11: the season, at some point later in the season, maybe

1092
00:54:45,427 --> 00:54:48,587
Speaker 11: you know that that takes a toll. But you'd have

1093
00:54:48,667 --> 00:54:52,507
Speaker 11: to say they are there in the mix. And the

1094
00:54:52,587 --> 00:54:54,507
Speaker 11: thing that the scary thing is for their opponents is

1095
00:54:55,347 --> 00:54:56,667
Speaker 11: you know they're only going to get better.

1096
00:54:58,907 --> 00:55:01,587
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, a frightening thought. Hey, Bird's great to see yesterday.

1097
00:55:01,587 --> 00:55:03,507
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking agg all this afternoon. We'll see in

1098
00:55:03,507 --> 00:55:04,387
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

1099
00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:06,787
Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks Pinning, Thanks a lot, mate.

1100
00:55:06,787 --> 00:55:08,667
Speaker 2: Michael Burger just read ham at enzit hereld dot co

1101
00:55:08,747 --> 00:55:09,187
Speaker 2: dot z.

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00:55:09,387 --> 00:55:09,547
Speaker 18: Yes.

1103
00:55:09,587 --> 00:55:13,547
Speaker 2: Steve Corcis comments afterwards. Here they are. Jim Caloteliano had

1104
00:55:13,547 --> 00:55:16,707
Speaker 2: said during the weeks, as Michael Burgess just pointed out

1105
00:55:16,707 --> 00:55:19,907
Speaker 2: that he thought Auckland had been lucky in the first

1106
00:55:19,947 --> 00:55:23,147
Speaker 2: six six games of the season, or the first five

1107
00:55:23,187 --> 00:55:26,507
Speaker 2: games up until yesterday. Here was Steve coracis response to

1108
00:55:26,587 --> 00:55:28,267
Speaker 2: that after yesterday's game.

1109
00:55:28,587 --> 00:55:30,387
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm a little bit disappointed, to be honest with you.

1110
00:55:30,467 --> 00:55:33,067
Speaker 19: With Chief you mentioned a couple of things in the

1111
00:55:33,107 --> 00:55:37,107
Speaker 19: media which you know a little bit disrespectful to our team.

1112
00:55:37,307 --> 00:55:39,667
Speaker 19: You know that they were there for the taking. We've

1113
00:55:39,667 --> 00:55:42,507
Speaker 19: been lucky. We haven't been lucky. You know, you need

1114
00:55:42,547 --> 00:55:45,187
Speaker 19: a little bit of luck obviously to win games, but

1115
00:55:46,427 --> 00:55:48,907
Speaker 19: we won all six, so you know you don't get

1116
00:55:48,947 --> 00:55:51,707
Speaker 19: lucky by doing that. There's you know, the process you

1117
00:55:51,747 --> 00:55:55,707
Speaker 19: have to go through. Obviously we've had a few home

1118
00:55:55,747 --> 00:55:58,987
Speaker 19: games early on, but at the back end of the

1119
00:55:58,987 --> 00:56:00,707
Speaker 19: season we still have to play the same amount of

1120
00:56:00,747 --> 00:56:04,627
Speaker 19: games away from homes. And I don't make the rules,

1121
00:56:04,787 --> 00:56:09,187
Speaker 19: don't I don't do the draws. Obviously, you know we

1122
00:56:09,187 --> 00:56:12,467
Speaker 19: were the better team, and you know I use that

1123
00:56:12,507 --> 00:56:16,467
Speaker 19: in motivation for the boys as well because it helps helps.

1124
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:20,427
Speaker 19: Every little inch helps in derby games, pinned up on

1125
00:56:20,427 --> 00:56:22,507
Speaker 19: the wall to make sure the players saw it, because

1126
00:56:22,667 --> 00:56:25,067
Speaker 19: you know, we haven't been lucky. We've we've been working

1127
00:56:25,147 --> 00:56:29,027
Speaker 19: hard for these wins. We've been playing good football. There's

1128
00:56:29,027 --> 00:56:34,027
Speaker 19: probably a little bit out of wasn't necessary needed. You know,

1129
00:56:34,107 --> 00:56:36,907
Speaker 19: I think they're a good football team. We respect then,

1130
00:56:38,707 --> 00:56:39,947
Speaker 19: you know, I think he needs to show only a

1131
00:56:39,987 --> 00:56:40,947
Speaker 19: bit more respect for us.

1132
00:56:41,147 --> 00:56:43,507
Speaker 2: That is the voice of Steve Coriker, head coach of

1133
00:56:43,587 --> 00:56:47,027
Speaker 2: Auckland FC, after their win their second win over Wellington

1134
00:56:47,027 --> 00:56:50,227
Speaker 2: Phoenix yesterday to retain their perfect record. Kevin says on

1135
00:56:50,267 --> 00:56:52,547
Speaker 2: text pine I'm a diet in the world rugby fanatic.

1136
00:56:52,907 --> 00:56:55,707
Speaker 2: I'll watch probably only my second ever game of New

1137
00:56:55,787 --> 00:56:58,747
Speaker 2: Zealand football yesterday and loved every minute of it. Long

1138
00:56:58,827 --> 00:57:02,307
Speaker 2: live the special rivalry. Yep, so true, Kevin. And can

1139
00:57:02,347 --> 00:57:05,027
Speaker 2: I just give a quick shout out to a guy

1140
00:57:05,027 --> 00:57:06,507
Speaker 2: I didn't think I'll be giving a shout out to

1141
00:57:06,587 --> 00:57:09,547
Speaker 2: today with regard to the football, and that is Jeff Wilson.

1142
00:57:10,387 --> 00:57:14,747
Speaker 2: We'll know Goldie Jeff Wilson, rugby commentator, rugby host on

1143
00:57:14,787 --> 00:57:17,467
Speaker 2: the Breakdown, And yeah, well you know Jeff Wilson, former

1144
00:57:17,507 --> 00:57:21,547
Speaker 2: All Black legend. He found out yesterday morning at ten

1145
00:57:21,587 --> 00:57:26,547
Speaker 2: o'clock that, due to some circumstances beyond everybody's control, we'd

1146
00:57:26,587 --> 00:57:30,107
Speaker 2: lost one of the team that normally presents on Sky Sport.

1147
00:57:30,747 --> 00:57:32,627
Speaker 2: They rung Jeff Wilson up and said, Jeff, can you

1148
00:57:32,667 --> 00:57:33,667
Speaker 2: help us out?

1149
00:57:34,027 --> 00:57:34,347
Speaker 7: Well?

1150
00:57:34,787 --> 00:57:37,827
Speaker 2: I thought he did a superb job. What a pro,

1151
00:57:38,827 --> 00:57:41,787
Speaker 2: you know, with only a few hours preparation. Normally you

1152
00:57:41,827 --> 00:57:45,787
Speaker 2: find these things out weeks in advance. It's not his game.

1153
00:57:45,947 --> 00:57:49,227
Speaker 2: He's a rugby cricket basketball guy. But the way that

1154
00:57:49,307 --> 00:57:53,587
Speaker 2: he presented with such professionalism I thought was terrific. So

1155
00:57:53,627 --> 00:57:56,307
Speaker 2: I've got to give big raps to Goldie for what

1156
00:57:56,387 --> 00:57:58,987
Speaker 2: he did yesterday, one twenty three. If you were there,

1157
00:57:59,027 --> 00:58:00,427
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and

1158
00:58:00,467 --> 00:58:02,947
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty Any thoughts on the derby, any thoughts

1159
00:58:02,947 --> 00:58:07,027
Speaker 2: on how this has happened so quickly for Auckland. It

1160
00:58:07,107 --> 00:58:09,907
Speaker 2: is a case study in how to very quickly generate

1161
00:58:09,987 --> 00:58:13,387
Speaker 2: a passionate fan base. Because everybody who is there yesterday

1162
00:58:14,147 --> 00:58:16,747
Speaker 2: is asking when can I get back to that? Winners

1163
00:58:17,067 --> 00:58:19,587
Speaker 2: the next game? One twenty three News Talks there b

1164
00:58:19,747 --> 00:58:22,987
Speaker 2: Steve Elka coming up on his return to New Zealand

1165
00:58:22,987 --> 00:58:25,147
Speaker 2: to play in the New Zealand Open next year. Can

1166
00:58:25,187 --> 00:58:27,867
Speaker 2: he win it? A tournament he's never won. He's won

1167
00:58:27,947 --> 00:58:29,507
Speaker 2: a lot of things this year, but he's never won

1168
00:58:29,507 --> 00:58:31,707
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Open. Steve Alker with a shortly on

1169
00:58:31,747 --> 00:58:32,347
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport.

1170
00:58:32,987 --> 00:58:36,507
Speaker 1: The biggest seas in sports are on Weekend Sports with

1171
00:58:36,707 --> 00:58:41,187
Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnohomes new Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1172
00:58:41,307 --> 00:58:44,387
Speaker 2: News Talks NB one twenty six on Weekend Sport great

1173
00:58:44,387 --> 00:58:46,707
Speaker 2: news for golf fans. Steve Elk's coming home for the

1174
00:58:46,707 --> 00:58:49,667
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five New Zealand Golf Open. Fresh from winning

1175
00:58:49,667 --> 00:58:53,467
Speaker 2: the PGA Champions Tour overall season title for a second

1176
00:58:53,507 --> 00:58:56,707
Speaker 2: time in three years. The tournament organizers have confirmed this

1177
00:58:56,747 --> 00:58:58,627
Speaker 2: week that Steve Elker will tee it up again at

1178
00:58:58,627 --> 00:59:01,947
Speaker 2: Millbrook in twenty twenty five and he joins us now Steve.

1179
00:59:02,627 --> 00:59:04,747
Speaker 2: The last key to win it was Michael Henry in

1180
00:59:04,787 --> 00:59:08,187
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Special will it be to win You're home Open?

1181
00:59:09,027 --> 00:59:10,587
Speaker 18: Oh? It'll be super special.

1182
00:59:10,707 --> 00:59:13,947
Speaker 20: I mean, you know, I'm might not be the favorite

1183
00:59:13,947 --> 00:59:16,387
Speaker 20: in the field, but I'll be giving it everything. And

1184
00:59:16,707 --> 00:59:19,227
Speaker 20: we're going to have an amazing field of New Zealanders

1185
00:59:19,227 --> 00:59:21,867
Speaker 20: this year. I mean there's so many guys playing well

1186
00:59:21,907 --> 00:59:25,827
Speaker 20: and getting some experience all over the world. So all

1187
00:59:25,867 --> 00:59:27,307
Speaker 20: I can say is is just come out and support

1188
00:59:27,307 --> 00:59:29,667
Speaker 20: the Kiwis and I think it's I think we're due

1189
00:59:29,707 --> 00:59:32,267
Speaker 20: and let's let's get a Kiwi champion.

1190
00:59:32,307 --> 00:59:34,587
Speaker 2: Ehe absolutely well. Your game seems to be in the

1191
00:59:34,587 --> 00:59:38,227
Speaker 2: perfect place to achieve at twenty twenty four, another superb

1192
00:59:38,347 --> 00:59:41,027
Speaker 2: year for you. What are the main reasons for your

1193
00:59:41,907 --> 00:59:44,227
Speaker 2: excellent consistency on the Champions Tour.

1194
00:59:45,227 --> 00:59:47,507
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, I think you know, I'm that was my

1195
00:59:47,627 --> 00:59:50,187
Speaker 20: third full season now, so you know, I'm coming on

1196
00:59:50,227 --> 00:59:52,267
Speaker 20: the swing of it. I know the golf courses and

1197
00:59:53,147 --> 00:59:56,227
Speaker 20: you know the competition I'm up against. There's always some

1198
00:59:56,427 --> 00:59:58,747
Speaker 20: rookies coming on. We say rookies in a fifth year old,

1199
00:59:58,827 --> 01:00:01,107
Speaker 20: but we've got we've got that, We've got the young

1200
01:00:01,187 --> 01:00:03,587
Speaker 20: We've got the young guys coming on and they're they're

1201
01:00:03,627 --> 01:00:06,627
Speaker 20: pretty hungry and wanting to win, so coming to is

1202
01:00:06,627 --> 01:00:09,947
Speaker 20: getting better. So I think that's actually it feels like

1203
01:00:09,987 --> 01:00:12,907
Speaker 20: it's motivated in me at least to get a little

1204
01:00:12,947 --> 01:00:16,467
Speaker 20: bit better and just get the consistency and try and

1205
01:00:16,827 --> 01:00:18,987
Speaker 20: give myself a chance to win every week, and that's

1206
01:00:19,027 --> 01:00:21,787
Speaker 20: going to help my game and I certainly with my consistency. Anyway,

1207
01:00:21,827 --> 01:00:23,987
Speaker 20: it's been it's been one of those seasons. It's been

1208
01:00:24,387 --> 01:00:27,627
Speaker 20: ready consistently, had a lot of chances to win in

1209
01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:29,747
Speaker 20: the thick of it, and just you know, very very

1210
01:00:29,787 --> 01:00:31,307
Speaker 20: fortunate to get up at the end. So there's always

1211
01:00:31,307 --> 01:00:33,347
Speaker 20: a little bit lack involved, but it was it was

1212
01:00:33,427 --> 01:00:35,867
Speaker 20: nice to snatch another year end title.

1213
01:00:36,307 --> 01:00:39,147
Speaker 2: How differently are you playing now compared to when you

1214
01:00:39,187 --> 01:00:39,707
Speaker 2: were younger.

1215
01:00:43,067 --> 01:00:46,707
Speaker 20: Yeah, differently in the fact that I think I've got

1216
01:00:46,707 --> 01:00:49,427
Speaker 20: a lot more freedom when I'm on the golf course now.

1217
01:00:49,507 --> 01:00:52,347
Speaker 20: You know, I might not worry about things as much.

1218
01:00:52,387 --> 01:00:54,667
Speaker 20: You know, I'm getting older and just matured better. So

1219
01:00:55,307 --> 01:00:59,987
Speaker 20: that's certainly one thing. And you know, I practice smarter

1220
01:01:00,067 --> 01:01:02,547
Speaker 20: and you're getting older and the body that can't take

1221
01:01:02,547 --> 01:01:05,067
Speaker 20: it as much, so I don't. I don't practice as much,

1222
01:01:05,107 --> 01:01:08,187
Speaker 20: but I probably practice smart. So I should have started that,

1223
01:01:08,227 --> 01:01:10,107
Speaker 20: like twenty five thirty years ago, mate, I would have

1224
01:01:10,147 --> 01:01:10,587
Speaker 20: been a right.

1225
01:01:11,907 --> 01:01:15,667
Speaker 2: Are you perhaps less hard on yourself now compared to

1226
01:01:15,707 --> 01:01:16,867
Speaker 2: earlier in your career?

1227
01:01:17,227 --> 01:01:18,987
Speaker 18: Yes, yeah, definitely definitely.

1228
01:01:18,987 --> 01:01:21,187
Speaker 20: And you know if I if I go back, you know,

1229
01:01:21,227 --> 01:01:25,187
Speaker 20: twenty five years and give myself some advice, that would

1230
01:01:25,187 --> 01:01:26,947
Speaker 20: be definitely one thing that I would do.

1231
01:01:27,067 --> 01:01:28,747
Speaker 18: And you know.

1232
01:01:28,707 --> 01:01:31,787
Speaker 20: That's right when I'm talking to other Kiwis or youngsters,

1233
01:01:31,827 --> 01:01:33,707
Speaker 20: you know, try and to install that into them because

1234
01:01:34,347 --> 01:01:36,307
Speaker 20: golf is such a game. Well every sport is now

1235
01:01:36,347 --> 01:01:39,307
Speaker 20: it's so competitive, but golf more so. You just you know,

1236
01:01:39,307 --> 01:01:41,907
Speaker 20: it's a mental game and you want to you want

1237
01:01:41,947 --> 01:01:44,707
Speaker 20: to just beat yourself up sometimes for not doing what

1238
01:01:45,107 --> 01:01:48,027
Speaker 20: you want to do and you know, it's it becomes

1239
01:01:48,067 --> 01:01:50,267
Speaker 20: a tough game and it wears on your pretty well.

1240
01:01:50,347 --> 01:01:53,467
Speaker 20: So yeah, if you can, I think I'm doing that better.

1241
01:01:53,507 --> 01:01:56,427
Speaker 20: You know, I'm not so hard on myself, and I

1242
01:01:56,427 --> 01:01:59,627
Speaker 20: think the environment I'm in now actually helps with that,

1243
01:01:59,707 --> 01:02:01,827
Speaker 20: you know, playing with the guys and it's a little

1244
01:02:01,827 --> 01:02:04,507
Speaker 20: more relaxed. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's competitive,

1245
01:02:04,547 --> 01:02:08,187
Speaker 20: but just just that environment and is huge and I'm

1246
01:02:08,307 --> 01:02:10,147
Speaker 20: enjoying it, you know. That's that's the big thing, just

1247
01:02:10,147 --> 01:02:10,947
Speaker 20: just trying to enjoy it.

1248
01:02:11,267 --> 01:02:14,947
Speaker 2: Can that realization and self awareness really only come with experience, though, Steve?

1249
01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:17,467
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's great advice, and I'm sure any

1250
01:02:17,467 --> 01:02:19,667
Speaker 2: golfer of any age would love to be able to

1251
01:02:19,707 --> 01:02:22,147
Speaker 2: not be that hard on themselves. But can that only

1252
01:02:22,187 --> 01:02:23,827
Speaker 2: come through maturity?

1253
01:02:23,827 --> 01:02:24,307
Speaker 12: If you like?

1254
01:02:25,187 --> 01:02:26,427
Speaker 18: Yeah, a little bit.

1255
01:02:26,467 --> 01:02:28,947
Speaker 20: But I think that the young guys coming out now,

1256
01:02:28,987 --> 01:02:31,387
Speaker 20: I've got a lot more of that. I think they've

1257
01:02:31,387 --> 01:02:34,387
Speaker 20: got they've got better at that. You look at the

1258
01:02:34,427 --> 01:02:37,987
Speaker 20: young guys and in the world of golf now, there's

1259
01:02:37,987 --> 01:02:41,067
Speaker 20: there's a lot of really really good young players. I

1260
01:02:41,107 --> 01:02:43,907
Speaker 20: mean that the talents is incredible and it's got a

1261
01:02:43,947 --> 01:02:46,787
Speaker 20: lot closer and I think guys are just getting better

1262
01:02:46,827 --> 01:02:49,387
Speaker 20: at that, and they're just they're trying to They're out

1263
01:02:49,387 --> 01:02:49,867
Speaker 20: there to win.

1264
01:02:50,947 --> 01:02:51,147
Speaker 18: You know.

1265
01:02:51,307 --> 01:02:53,347
Speaker 20: I think when I got out there and first started,

1266
01:02:53,387 --> 01:02:55,627
Speaker 20: I kind of felt like I need a year or

1267
01:02:55,667 --> 01:02:58,107
Speaker 20: two to kind of get get get my feet and

1268
01:02:58,707 --> 01:03:01,427
Speaker 20: feelm away. But now the guys just coming out and

1269
01:03:01,427 --> 01:03:04,307
Speaker 20: they're ready. They're coming out of college or they're they're

1270
01:03:04,387 --> 01:03:07,427
Speaker 20: they're getting some experience that we kind of never had

1271
01:03:07,667 --> 01:03:10,147
Speaker 20: and they're ready to go. And I think that that's

1272
01:03:10,147 --> 01:03:12,627
Speaker 20: a mental thing that's that's changed a lot in the

1273
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Speaker 20: young guys for sure.

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Speaker 2: And so as you've gotten more experienced, have you focused

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Speaker 2: more now on the efficiency of your shots compared to

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01:03:20,627 --> 01:03:21,707
Speaker 2: say your clubhead speed?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely. I kind of feel like the speed is

1278
01:03:26,587 --> 01:03:28,427
Speaker 20: going to be what it is. You know, I've got

1279
01:03:28,467 --> 01:03:31,227
Speaker 20: to a point where, hey, I'm not gonna I'm not

1280
01:03:31,267 --> 01:03:34,267
Speaker 20: going to get to Padrick Harrington's speed or you know,

1281
01:03:34,587 --> 01:03:37,307
Speaker 20: a Scottish Schefflers speed. I'm not going to get there.

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Speaker 20: So mine's more about efficiency. You know, my iron play

1283
01:03:41,747 --> 01:03:44,227
Speaker 20: is improved, that's the probably the biggest part of my

1284
01:03:44,267 --> 01:03:47,947
Speaker 20: game has improved the last four or five years, which has.

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Speaker 18: Helped me score.

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Speaker 20: And then you know, year and year out, my short

1287
01:03:50,707 --> 01:03:53,787
Speaker 20: game seems to be there and getting better, and my

1288
01:03:53,827 --> 01:03:57,667
Speaker 20: putting has been more consistent, and I drive it straight anyway,

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01:03:57,747 --> 01:04:01,027
Speaker 20: So you know, all that kind of adds up to

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Speaker 20: pretty consistent, efficient stuff, and so I try to be

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Speaker 20: more that way, And that's that's why I don't practice

1292
01:04:07,427 --> 01:04:09,587
Speaker 20: as much now. I kind of focus on the same

1293
01:04:09,667 --> 01:04:12,667
Speaker 20: things and just try to keep doing what I've been

1294
01:04:12,707 --> 01:04:15,147
Speaker 20: doing and just try and do it just a little

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Speaker 20: bit better.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're still looking supremely fit as well, annoyingly

1297
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Speaker 2: for those of us in our fifties and our fifty steeps.

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01:04:23,187 --> 01:04:25,787
Speaker 2: But do you joking aside, do you have to work

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Speaker 2: on your fitness anymore now than perhaps earlier.

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Speaker 3: In your career.

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01:04:29,827 --> 01:04:33,747
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think so, just to maintain things, you know,

1302
01:04:33,987 --> 01:04:38,747
Speaker 20: to not have that bare belly and just try and

1303
01:04:38,987 --> 01:04:41,307
Speaker 20: stay in shape, get around the golf course and actually

1304
01:04:41,347 --> 01:04:44,587
Speaker 20: feel good day to day. I think that's the hardest thing. Like,

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01:04:44,987 --> 01:04:46,787
Speaker 20: you know, we only play three rounds now, but we're

1306
01:04:46,827 --> 01:04:49,067
Speaker 20: still traveling and you know, in and out of hotels

1307
01:04:49,067 --> 01:04:52,987
Speaker 20: and airports, and we're still doing a full week. So

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Speaker 20: if you can stay fit, just to just to do

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01:04:55,987 --> 01:04:57,907
Speaker 20: that part of it, and stay in shape and feel

1310
01:04:57,947 --> 01:04:59,147
Speaker 20: good when you go to the golf course.

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01:04:59,187 --> 01:04:59,907
Speaker 18: That's the main thing.

1312
01:04:59,947 --> 01:05:03,307
Speaker 20: But but for me, it's all about you know, I

1313
01:05:03,347 --> 01:05:04,907
Speaker 20: want to stay in shape. I want to I want

1314
01:05:04,947 --> 01:05:08,467
Speaker 20: to feel strong and and be strong and do stuff

1315
01:05:08,467 --> 01:05:12,387
Speaker 20: with my kids. Now I'm getting older and that's important

1316
01:05:12,427 --> 01:05:14,587
Speaker 20: to me. So yeah, that's a big part of what

1317
01:05:14,627 --> 01:05:17,307
Speaker 20: I do. She probably probably even a bigger part now

1318
01:05:17,747 --> 01:05:21,187
Speaker 20: than it used to be, and more important than practice.

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01:05:21,227 --> 01:05:23,307
Speaker 2: You know, and you're playing what about so I guess

1320
01:05:23,347 --> 01:05:25,507
Speaker 2: what twenty one twenty two tournaments per year?

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01:05:25,547 --> 01:05:25,707
Speaker 21: Now?

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01:05:25,707 --> 01:05:27,467
Speaker 2: Does that feel about the right number for the next

1323
01:05:27,467 --> 01:05:28,107
Speaker 2: little while for you?

1324
01:05:28,787 --> 01:05:29,547
Speaker 18: Yeah? I think so.

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01:05:29,907 --> 01:05:32,347
Speaker 20: You know, it's you know, as I said, I'm feeling

1326
01:05:32,347 --> 01:05:35,227
Speaker 20: pretty good and fitness is okay, so I think that's

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01:05:35,227 --> 01:05:38,187
Speaker 20: a good number. I'm looking at the schedule for next year,

1328
01:05:38,227 --> 01:05:40,907
Speaker 20: and you know, I keep coming up with twenty one

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01:05:40,987 --> 01:05:43,787
Speaker 20: twenty two events, and I feel like I'm nipping a

1330
01:05:43,787 --> 01:05:46,907
Speaker 20: few out here and there. But you know, even when

1331
01:05:46,987 --> 01:05:49,507
Speaker 20: he's out and open, you know, you have to travel

1332
01:05:49,547 --> 01:05:53,227
Speaker 20: down there and all those things take their toll. So

1333
01:05:53,827 --> 01:05:55,387
Speaker 20: you'm planning this year is just to get down a

1334
01:05:55,427 --> 01:05:58,267
Speaker 20: little bit early and play some play some golf, and

1335
01:05:58,347 --> 01:06:00,867
Speaker 20: get a little bit more preparation for news in an

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01:06:00,907 --> 01:06:03,147
Speaker 20: open week and then go from there.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's circle back there to finish Melbrook. Do

1338
01:06:05,827 --> 01:06:06,307
Speaker 2: you like the call?

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01:06:07,987 --> 01:06:08,387
Speaker 18: I do?

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01:06:09,227 --> 01:06:12,587
Speaker 20: You know you've got two different golf courses, you know

1341
01:06:12,587 --> 01:06:16,467
Speaker 20: that the holes up in the hill and the the

1342
01:06:16,547 --> 01:06:18,907
Speaker 20: other course, which is I think is the stronger course.

1343
01:06:19,787 --> 01:06:24,107
Speaker 20: I think that's where you've got to, you know, hold

1344
01:06:24,147 --> 01:06:28,427
Speaker 20: your score and try and take opportunities, you know, the

1345
01:06:28,467 --> 01:06:31,027
Speaker 20: other course and the flat, the old course, that's where

1346
01:06:31,067 --> 01:06:34,107
Speaker 20: you can make some birdies and make it run on

1347
01:06:34,107 --> 01:06:35,107
Speaker 20: on day one or day two.

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01:06:35,267 --> 01:06:37,907
Speaker 18: So yeah, you know, I grew up playing there. I

1349
01:06:37,947 --> 01:06:39,187
Speaker 18: played a lot with Bob Charles.

1350
01:06:39,747 --> 01:06:42,387
Speaker 20: John Griffin was the director of golf there for a

1351
01:06:42,427 --> 01:06:44,307
Speaker 20: long time, and I spent a lot of time down

1352
01:06:44,347 --> 01:06:48,707
Speaker 20: there seeing John and playing the golf courses and and

1353
01:06:48,707 --> 01:06:50,587
Speaker 20: and been in the area. So for me, it's a

1354
01:06:50,587 --> 01:06:53,107
Speaker 20: special place to go back to, you know, I know

1355
01:06:53,187 --> 01:06:54,427
Speaker 20: the golf course the lower of.

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01:06:54,427 --> 01:06:58,947
Speaker 18: The land, and yeah, that that helps too. Come come tournament.

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Speaker 2: Time now, stuck your coming home a lot. I know

1358
01:07:00,627 --> 01:07:02,147
Speaker 2: a lot of golf fans are looking forward to seeing

1359
01:07:02,187 --> 01:07:04,067
Speaker 2: you in the flesh. Steve, all the best for the

1360
01:07:04,347 --> 01:07:06,347
Speaker 2: I guess the Christmas Festive season. Look forward to seeing

1361
01:07:06,507 --> 01:07:08,747
Speaker 2: down here in early in twenty twenty five. Thanks so

1362
01:07:08,827 --> 01:07:10,227
Speaker 2: much for taking our call this afternoon.

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01:07:10,547 --> 01:07:12,187
Speaker 18: Yeah, thanks mate, looking forward to it.

1364
01:07:12,267 --> 01:07:14,227
Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing you, Steve. Thanks indeed, Steve Elker

1365
01:07:14,267 --> 01:07:17,107
Speaker 2: that fresh from winning the PGA Champions to an overall

1366
01:07:17,107 --> 01:07:19,667
Speaker 2: season title for a second time in three yearsg's playing

1367
01:07:19,707 --> 01:07:22,587
Speaker 2: some golf at the moment, Steve Elka incredible, great to hear.

1368
01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:24,627
Speaker 2: He'll be at the New Zealand Golf Open, the one

1369
01:07:24,747 --> 01:07:28,947
Speaker 2: hundred and fourth edition at the Millbrook Resort in twenty

1370
01:07:28,987 --> 01:07:32,507
Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty five to two, About five minutes from

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01:07:32,547 --> 01:07:35,107
Speaker 2: coming back out onto the field at the Basin Reserve,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand are going to resume at fifty nine for four.

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01:07:37,987 --> 01:07:41,107
Speaker 2: They still need another five hundred and twenty four runs

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01:07:41,467 --> 01:07:44,187
Speaker 2: if they are to win this Test match. It'd be

1375
01:07:44,227 --> 01:07:46,747
Speaker 2: more about trying to save it. A bit of rain

1376
01:07:46,827 --> 01:07:48,787
Speaker 2: is forecast for later on today, but they are coming

1377
01:07:48,827 --> 01:07:51,707
Speaker 2: back out now, so clearly the rain hasn't put paid

1378
01:07:51,747 --> 01:07:55,827
Speaker 2: to play just yet. There have been various texts coming

1379
01:07:55,867 --> 01:07:58,947
Speaker 2: through talking about spots of rain on windows in the

1380
01:07:59,027 --> 01:08:02,627
Speaker 2: surrounding suburbs, but Tom Blundell and Daryl Mitchell are walking

1381
01:08:02,667 --> 01:08:06,667
Speaker 2: back out there, the England team striding confidently back out

1382
01:08:06,667 --> 01:08:08,547
Speaker 2: onto the grass. So we'll keep you up to date

1383
01:08:08,587 --> 01:08:10,347
Speaker 2: with that. I'll just give you some planket shield scores

1384
01:08:10,387 --> 01:08:14,227
Speaker 2: as well. While we're on the subject of cricket. There

1385
01:08:14,227 --> 01:08:18,427
Speaker 2: are games happening around the country, three of them in

1386
01:08:18,587 --> 01:08:21,867
Speaker 2: Mount Monganui, Northern yesterday all out for two hundred and four.

1387
01:08:22,067 --> 01:08:25,787
Speaker 2: Central in reply are two hundred and forty four for four,

1388
01:08:26,347 --> 01:08:29,627
Speaker 2: so I've got a first innings lead already and still

1389
01:08:29,667 --> 01:08:32,867
Speaker 2: six first innings wickets in hand. Yesterday, Otago in a

1390
01:08:32,947 --> 01:08:35,227
Speaker 2: lunge order bowled out for one hundred and seventeen by Canterbury.

1391
01:08:35,267 --> 01:08:39,507
Speaker 2: Canterbury two ninety five for eight. In reply arese Mardi,

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01:08:39,507 --> 01:08:42,667
Speaker 2: who've got more runs yesterday eighty seven. He didn't get

1393
01:08:42,667 --> 01:08:44,907
Speaker 2: another another one hundred, it would be quite disappointed. This

1394
01:08:44,947 --> 01:08:47,467
Speaker 2: is this kt out of Canterbury who's scoring all sorts

1395
01:08:47,467 --> 01:08:51,387
Speaker 2: of runs and turning heads everywhere, and at Eden Park's

1396
01:08:51,427 --> 01:08:54,387
Speaker 2: outer Oval, Wellington in reply to Auckland's three hundred and

1397
01:08:54,427 --> 01:08:57,907
Speaker 2: twenty nine one hundred and six for four in their

1398
01:08:58,547 --> 01:09:02,387
Speaker 2: first innings, so that's a deficit of about two hundred

1399
01:09:02,467 --> 01:09:05,347
Speaker 2: and twenty runs there. James mcconni shortly just wanted to

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01:09:06,067 --> 01:09:11,147
Speaker 2: zerah and though on Chris Wood, who overnight helped Nottingham

1401
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:16,267
Speaker 2: Forest achieve something they haven't done in three decades. Chris

1402
01:09:16,267 --> 01:09:19,467
Speaker 2: Wood is having an absolute worldye of a season with

1403
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Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest.

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01:09:20,587 --> 01:09:20,987
Speaker 6: What is it?

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01:09:21,067 --> 01:09:27,827
Speaker 22: The fact post Chris Woods its Chris Wood celebrates a

1406
01:09:28,067 --> 01:09:31,947
Speaker 22: birth take goal and not a a Forest of It

1407
01:09:32,187 --> 01:09:34,467
Speaker 22: two goal league now at Old Trufford.

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01:09:35,067 --> 01:09:38,227
Speaker 4: It is a goal that establishes Chris Wood on his

1409
01:09:38,347 --> 01:09:43,427
Speaker 4: own now has Nottingham Forest's highest goal scorer off the

1410
01:09:43,467 --> 01:09:44,427
Speaker 4: Premier League era.

1411
01:09:44,907 --> 01:09:47,067
Speaker 2: So since the Premier League came into being in nineteen

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01:09:47,147 --> 01:09:50,627
Speaker 2: ninety two, Chris Wood is now Nottingham Forest's all time

1413
01:09:50,707 --> 01:09:52,747
Speaker 2: leading Premier League goal scorer. They haven't been in the

1414
01:09:52,747 --> 01:09:57,027
Speaker 2: Premier League the whole time. They've been relegated down to

1415
01:09:56,387 --> 01:10:00,907
Speaker 2: the Championship, the one below the Premier League. But the

1416
01:10:00,947 --> 01:10:03,667
Speaker 2: fact remains Chris Wood is now their all time leading

1417
01:10:04,067 --> 01:10:08,547
Speaker 2: Premier League goal scorer. His thirty third birthday, No, Liz,

1418
01:10:08,627 --> 01:10:11,027
Speaker 2: Here are his brief post match thoughts.

1419
01:10:11,187 --> 01:10:12,867
Speaker 9: You just celebrated your third birthday.

1420
01:10:12,907 --> 01:10:16,187
Speaker 23: The last time Forrest won at Old Trafford and judging

1421
01:10:16,227 --> 01:10:19,627
Speaker 23: by the celebrations there, this feels like a historic day.

1422
01:10:20,147 --> 01:10:22,067
Speaker 23: Will it mean a lot for the club and the

1423
01:10:22,067 --> 01:10:23,867
Speaker 23: supporters who've traveled today?

1424
01:10:24,307 --> 01:10:24,627
Speaker 9: Definitely.

1425
01:10:24,707 --> 01:10:27,427
Speaker 24: I think it's sean where we've come from and where

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01:10:27,827 --> 01:10:29,867
Speaker 24: we're wanting to get. To come to a place like

1427
01:10:29,907 --> 01:10:32,827
Speaker 24: this as never easy and we want to come challenge

1428
01:10:32,827 --> 01:10:34,747
Speaker 24: ourselves and believe in ourselves to get the win here,

1429
01:10:34,747 --> 01:10:35,707
Speaker 24: and that's what we came to do.

1430
01:10:36,027 --> 01:10:37,467
Speaker 9: What areas did you try and exploit?

1431
01:10:38,027 --> 01:10:39,827
Speaker 24: Well, we just try to play our game and what

1432
01:10:39,907 --> 01:10:42,227
Speaker 24: we were working on. It's been a long week, a

1433
01:10:42,267 --> 01:10:44,867
Speaker 24: long tough week, but six point seven of nine has

1434
01:10:44,867 --> 01:10:45,587
Speaker 24: been fantastic.

1435
01:10:45,947 --> 01:10:48,707
Speaker 23: With your header, are you're looking to hit that back

1436
01:10:48,787 --> 01:10:50,827
Speaker 23: post where you're looking to get it back into the

1437
01:10:50,947 --> 01:10:51,507
Speaker 23: danger zone?

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01:10:51,547 --> 01:10:53,627
Speaker 9: What was the thinking? It was a lovely cross?

1439
01:10:53,747 --> 01:10:55,587
Speaker 24: Look, it's just finding an area. I mean, work's put

1440
01:10:55,667 --> 01:10:57,627
Speaker 24: in a beautiful ball. I mean it's pin points straight

1441
01:10:57,667 --> 01:10:58,787
Speaker 24: on my head, which is nice and makes it a

1442
01:10:58,827 --> 01:11:00,827
Speaker 24: lot easier. But you're just trying to find an area

1443
01:11:00,867 --> 01:11:03,147
Speaker 24: that if it causes some confusion.

1444
01:11:02,747 --> 01:11:04,867
Speaker 9: It might drop in ten for the season.

1445
01:11:05,427 --> 01:11:08,267
Speaker 23: And I'm sure you're all you are now Nottingham Forest

1446
01:11:08,427 --> 01:11:11,387
Speaker 23: Record Premier League goal scorer. So many congratulations. What does

1447
01:11:11,427 --> 01:11:12,667
Speaker 23: that mean to you in your family?

1448
01:11:12,867 --> 01:11:13,707
Speaker 9: Look, it's fantastic.

1449
01:11:14,307 --> 01:11:16,507
Speaker 24: It's nice that I can keeping doing well for the

1450
01:11:16,547 --> 01:11:18,307
Speaker 24: team and that's what I wanted to keep pushing up

1451
01:11:18,347 --> 01:11:20,987
Speaker 24: and keep getting as many goals as possible for this

1452
01:11:21,027 --> 01:11:22,787
Speaker 24: team and to see where it can take us.

1453
01:11:23,067 --> 01:11:25,947
Speaker 9: How long can you keep that record exactly?

1454
01:11:26,227 --> 01:11:27,907
Speaker 24: And just keep pushing as far as I can to

1455
01:11:28,387 --> 01:11:29,987
Speaker 24: sit in and stone for a long period of time.

1456
01:11:30,067 --> 01:11:33,707
Speaker 2: High achiever Chris Wood just doing brilliant things. It hasn't

1457
01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:35,747
Speaker 2: been a straight line to get to where he is.

1458
01:11:36,027 --> 01:11:39,667
Speaker 2: He's toiled away and toiled away, but he's just getting

1459
01:11:39,707 --> 01:11:42,267
Speaker 2: the fruits of his labor. Our Chris Wood and still

1460
01:11:42,307 --> 01:11:44,307
Speaker 2: of course leading our New Zealand side, who are back

1461
01:11:44,347 --> 01:11:47,427
Speaker 2: here in New Zealand in March to try and qualify

1462
01:11:47,507 --> 01:11:50,987
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty six Football World Cup. What a

1463
01:11:51,107 --> 01:11:54,027
Speaker 2: terrific I guess Swan song it might be, although who

1464
01:11:54,107 --> 01:11:55,627
Speaker 2: knows Chris Wood might go on for three or four

1465
01:11:55,747 --> 01:11:58,187
Speaker 2: five more years, But to take New Zealand to a

1466
01:11:58,227 --> 01:12:00,267
Speaker 2: World Cup and play in another World Cup he of

1467
01:12:00,307 --> 01:12:03,827
Speaker 2: course played in the World Cup in twenty ten, wouldn't

1468
01:12:03,827 --> 01:12:06,107
Speaker 2: it be great to see him also there in twenty twenty.

1469
01:12:06,987 --> 01:12:10,467
Speaker 2: It is twenty minutes away from two James mcconey in

1470
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Speaker 2: his regular Sunday slot right after.

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Speaker 1: This Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Gunn Homes New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted oh Builder.

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Speaker 2: News Talk seventeen away from two James mccony, a massive

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01:12:25,947 --> 01:12:29,227
Speaker 2: part of our Sunday's alternative commentary collective crowd goes wild

1476
01:12:29,227 --> 01:12:31,587
Speaker 2: all across your socials and on our radio. How are

1477
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Speaker 2: you mate?

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Speaker 5: I'm great, mate.

1479
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Speaker 7: And also I see Hamilton Boys High as a big

1480
01:12:35,867 --> 01:12:38,187
Speaker 7: part of your Sunday Stephen Alko, I went to school

1481
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Speaker 7: with him. I hope you've got Scott styras stuff after.

1482
01:12:40,867 --> 01:12:46,827
Speaker 2: The news to complete the holy trinity of Hamilton Boys High.

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Speaker 5: The beggest looking man out of Boys High, those.

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Speaker 2: Three mcony, Elka and Styrus. Who would have thought? Who

1485
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Speaker 2: would have thought?

1486
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Speaker 18: Hey?

1487
01:12:55,067 --> 01:12:56,707
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the Derby yesterday?

1488
01:12:57,707 --> 01:13:02,227
Speaker 7: I love the Derby, the biggest already the biggest domestic

1489
01:13:02,267 --> 01:13:05,467
Speaker 7: event in New Zealand sport. Right that's twenty six thousand.

1490
01:13:06,587 --> 01:13:10,067
Speaker 7: The noise of fan Fair just the best atmosphere. I

1491
01:13:10,067 --> 01:13:13,907
Speaker 7: actually caught the train with the Yellow Fever only three carriages,

1492
01:13:13,947 --> 01:13:17,707
Speaker 7: though Auckland Transport or whoever we should help could have

1493
01:13:17,787 --> 01:13:20,987
Speaker 7: done with a few more. But even then they just

1494
01:13:21,027 --> 01:13:25,307
Speaker 7: set the tone in great fan base from both both sides.

1495
01:13:25,707 --> 01:13:28,867
Speaker 7: But having said that the Yellow Fever, some of their

1496
01:13:28,867 --> 01:13:31,427
Speaker 7: anti Auckland songs were a little close to the bone.

1497
01:13:31,427 --> 01:13:35,107
Speaker 7: For example, you're always stuck in traffic, You're always stuck

1498
01:13:35,147 --> 01:13:36,987
Speaker 7: in traffic. That won't really hurt.

1499
01:13:37,507 --> 01:13:39,787
Speaker 2: Well, it is accurate though, it's fact based.

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01:13:40,187 --> 01:13:43,387
Speaker 5: Yeah it is. But what a game though, pony Oh.

1501
01:13:43,387 --> 01:13:46,947
Speaker 2: A great game, a brilliant occasion. But on the grass,

1502
01:13:47,107 --> 01:13:50,667
Speaker 2: you know, this rivalry is real. I thought Costa Barbarusis

1503
01:13:51,387 --> 01:13:54,627
Speaker 2: has finish was excellent. I still wonder about Auckland and look,

1504
01:13:54,627 --> 01:13:56,587
Speaker 2: they won the game and absolutely deserve to win the game,

1505
01:13:56,627 --> 01:13:58,547
Speaker 2: but an own goal and a goal by Nander Pineker,

1506
01:13:58,587 --> 01:14:01,067
Speaker 2: a center back, they're not they have They got the

1507
01:14:01,107 --> 01:14:02,947
Speaker 2: cutting edge up top that they'll be after.

1508
01:14:04,107 --> 01:14:04,587
Speaker 5: That's the thing.

1509
01:14:04,667 --> 01:14:06,307
Speaker 7: I think they should have had more shots on goal.

1510
01:14:06,427 --> 01:14:08,507
Speaker 7: They did boss the game Auckland FC, so I think

1511
01:14:08,507 --> 01:14:11,787
Speaker 7: we can safely say the best team won, but they'll

1512
01:14:11,867 --> 01:14:15,187
Speaker 7: be I'm sure Steve Coriker will be annoyed with maybe

1513
01:14:15,227 --> 01:14:18,827
Speaker 7: just their hesitancy in front of goal. You know, they

1514
01:14:18,867 --> 01:14:21,467
Speaker 7: just need to pull the trigger a bit quicker. But

1515
01:14:21,507 --> 01:14:24,107
Speaker 7: there was also I mean it's pretty clear Hiroki Saka,

1516
01:14:24,267 --> 01:14:27,867
Speaker 7: the Auckland captain it right back, is probably the best

1517
01:14:27,867 --> 01:14:29,907
Speaker 7: player in the A League. You know, he could still

1518
01:14:29,907 --> 01:14:32,787
Speaker 7: play for any club in the world. Obviously played for Marseille.

1519
01:14:33,187 --> 01:14:35,427
Speaker 7: But there was just some I mean, that own goal

1520
01:14:35,547 --> 01:14:39,387
Speaker 7: was crazy. I mean, poor Isaac cues the perfect hitter

1521
01:14:39,467 --> 01:14:43,587
Speaker 7: into his own nets. But you could see with Kraker,

1522
01:14:43,627 --> 01:14:46,747
Speaker 7: he was on your show just before saying that they

1523
01:14:46,867 --> 01:14:51,787
Speaker 7: used the chiefees comments as motivation, that they were lucky

1524
01:14:51,787 --> 01:14:53,347
Speaker 7: with the drawer, you know FC.

1525
01:14:53,947 --> 01:14:56,187
Speaker 5: And it just shows that it's a real battle of

1526
01:14:56,227 --> 01:14:56,667
Speaker 5: the derby.

1527
01:14:56,667 --> 01:14:58,747
Speaker 7: It's not like a normal game of football where you

1528
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:00,387
Speaker 7: turn up and just think, oh, this is going to

1529
01:15:00,387 --> 01:15:02,827
Speaker 7: be fun. They're really fired up, you know. It's like

1530
01:15:02,907 --> 01:15:05,507
Speaker 7: smelling salts and UFC sort of preparation.

1531
01:15:05,667 --> 01:15:08,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. It's already bubbling away.

1532
01:15:09,027 --> 01:15:14,947
Speaker 2: Can't wait for the next one. In February, Chris Wood underrated, underappreciated.

1533
01:15:14,987 --> 01:15:17,667
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that he is. I think we all appreciate,

1534
01:15:18,147 --> 01:15:21,067
Speaker 2: you know, how good he is, but do we all

1535
01:15:21,147 --> 01:15:24,427
Speaker 2: like really grasp the magnitude of what he is achieving

1536
01:15:24,587 --> 01:15:26,827
Speaker 2: at this later stage of his career.

1537
01:15:28,187 --> 01:15:30,187
Speaker 7: We probably don't understand how big a deal. I mean,

1538
01:15:30,227 --> 01:15:35,347
Speaker 7: already double figures before Christmas. He's on target to get

1539
01:15:35,387 --> 01:15:38,587
Speaker 7: twenty odd goals with season and challenge for the Golden Boot.

1540
01:15:38,667 --> 01:15:42,867
Speaker 7: I mean, Chris Wood. It's the confidence really that he shows.

1541
01:15:42,947 --> 01:15:45,587
Speaker 7: I think you know, if you the faith that Nottingham

1542
01:15:45,627 --> 01:15:48,627
Speaker 7: Forests have put in him by saying you're starting number nine,

1543
01:15:48,667 --> 01:15:50,907
Speaker 7: he just keeps on repaying it. I mean, he didn't

1544
01:15:50,907 --> 01:15:53,107
Speaker 7: score many goals at Newcastle because they just didn't rate

1545
01:15:53,187 --> 01:15:55,427
Speaker 7: him the way that Forest does. And as soon as

1546
01:15:55,427 --> 01:15:58,587
Speaker 7: they did that, not only is he transforming their team,

1547
01:15:58,627 --> 01:16:01,587
Speaker 7: I think he's transforming the league and so they will

1548
01:16:01,627 --> 01:16:06,147
Speaker 7: be looking to countries like New Zealand for a big strike,

1549
01:16:06,547 --> 01:16:09,187
Speaker 7: not going to be that shy about It's not always

1550
01:16:09,227 --> 01:16:11,947
Speaker 7: just going to be a little guy from Portugal, Okay,

1551
01:16:12,427 --> 01:16:15,587
Speaker 7: that he is. He's changing the way that EPL teams

1552
01:16:16,067 --> 01:16:18,267
Speaker 7: by players and scout players.

1553
01:16:18,507 --> 01:16:20,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point because you know, there's there's

1554
01:16:20,987 --> 01:16:23,547
Speaker 2: more than one way to win a football match. Isn't

1555
01:16:23,547 --> 01:16:27,947
Speaker 2: there and his way is as effectives as any other one.

1556
01:16:28,027 --> 01:16:30,467
Speaker 2: Just bringing the table up now, Nottingham Forest are fifth,

1557
01:16:30,787 --> 01:16:33,987
Speaker 2: you know, Manchester United are currently down in thirteenth place.

1558
01:16:34,427 --> 01:16:37,107
Speaker 2: If you'd said, you know, after Forest play you know,

1559
01:16:37,107 --> 01:16:38,867
Speaker 2: if you said at the start of the season, after

1560
01:16:38,947 --> 01:16:41,307
Speaker 2: Forest play United in early December, one of the teams

1561
01:16:41,347 --> 01:16:43,187
Speaker 2: will be first and one will be thirteenth, you know

1562
01:16:43,227 --> 01:16:44,067
Speaker 2: what most people would have.

1563
01:16:44,027 --> 01:16:46,227
Speaker 5: Said, Oh exactly.

1564
01:16:46,307 --> 01:16:49,227
Speaker 7: And if you'd said that the top three goal scorers

1565
01:16:49,307 --> 01:16:51,387
Speaker 7: justis go say twenty years ago and you'd said that

1566
01:16:51,427 --> 01:16:53,627
Speaker 7: the top three goal scorers of the Premier League are

1567
01:16:53,667 --> 01:16:58,067
Speaker 7: going to be from Norway, Egypt and New Zealand, he

1568
01:16:58,107 --> 01:17:01,347
Speaker 7: would have got laughed out of town. That football is changing.

1569
01:17:01,427 --> 01:17:03,307
Speaker 7: It's very much a global game. And we're in the

1570
01:17:03,307 --> 01:17:04,547
Speaker 7: conversation I.

1571
01:17:04,547 --> 01:17:06,147
Speaker 2: Don't think we're favorite to win the cricket.

1572
01:17:07,587 --> 01:17:11,467
Speaker 7: Oh do you think I'm not hanging on to hope?

1573
01:17:11,547 --> 01:17:15,147
Speaker 2: There seventy seventy one for four, so we're almost under

1574
01:17:15,187 --> 01:17:17,267
Speaker 2: the five hundred needed to know. We are under the

1575
01:17:17,267 --> 01:17:20,067
Speaker 2: five hundred. The target's five eighty three. So no, we're not.

1576
01:17:20,107 --> 01:17:21,907
Speaker 2: We're not trying to do my maths on the on

1577
01:17:21,947 --> 01:17:24,987
Speaker 2: the hop here. Yeah, they're they're they're getting down to

1578
01:17:25,027 --> 01:17:26,907
Speaker 2: below five hundred, needed to win soon.

1579
01:17:28,107 --> 01:17:30,387
Speaker 7: Well it's appropriate they're playing at the basin because this

1580
01:17:30,507 --> 01:17:34,627
Speaker 7: Test series has gone now Mcgoglar, we can officially say that,

1581
01:17:35,027 --> 01:17:35,707
Speaker 7: or what's going down?

1582
01:17:35,787 --> 01:17:36,307
Speaker 5: Mcgoglar.

1583
01:17:37,187 --> 01:17:40,147
Speaker 7: It's a hangover after India. Really, I think they've got

1584
01:17:40,187 --> 01:17:41,027
Speaker 7: some selections wrong.

1585
01:17:41,107 --> 01:17:41,427
Speaker 5: Piney.

1586
01:17:41,467 --> 01:17:43,667
Speaker 7: I think Will Young should have been picked ahead of

1587
01:17:43,707 --> 01:17:45,947
Speaker 7: Devon Conway. I think we should have picked a spinner.

1588
01:17:46,987 --> 01:17:48,987
Speaker 7: Mitch Center was fit and I think they should have

1589
01:17:48,987 --> 01:17:52,587
Speaker 7: played him. I mean, the picks won't help him as

1590
01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:56,187
Speaker 7: much as Mumbai, but the guy's confidence has got to

1591
01:17:56,267 --> 01:17:59,027
Speaker 7: be sky high. And I think when you show those

1592
01:17:59,067 --> 01:18:01,107
Speaker 7: guys a bit like picking Chris Wood, when you show

1593
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:04,707
Speaker 7: those guys that faith, you know they'll often repay you.

1594
01:18:04,787 --> 01:18:08,027
Speaker 7: So look at the conversely, look at English selections. They

1595
01:18:08,107 --> 01:18:10,867
Speaker 7: choose this guy Jacob Bethel hasn't scored a first class

1596
01:18:10,907 --> 01:18:14,107
Speaker 7: ton just missed out yesterday, so he's fresh, you know,

1597
01:18:14,187 --> 01:18:17,347
Speaker 7: twenty one years old. The spinner who's bowling right now

1598
01:18:17,987 --> 01:18:20,907
Speaker 7: made his first class. They do for Somerset last year,

1599
01:18:21,507 --> 01:18:24,707
Speaker 7: so it's just so much more bolden. Every single way

1600
01:18:24,787 --> 01:18:28,667
Speaker 7: tactic selections the works and of course Brendan mccullums behind

1601
01:18:28,787 --> 01:18:29,147
Speaker 7: a lot of.

1602
01:18:29,107 --> 01:18:31,787
Speaker 2: Them, almost all of that, and I just I wanted

1603
01:18:31,787 --> 01:18:34,827
Speaker 2: to mention her, and I'm glad you have because Brendan McCallum,

1604
01:18:34,907 --> 01:18:36,947
Speaker 2: during a game of cricket, sits up on the balcony,

1605
01:18:37,107 --> 01:18:40,187
Speaker 2: doesn't have an iPad, doesn't have a notebook, doesn't have

1606
01:18:40,187 --> 01:18:42,867
Speaker 2: a phone out that I can see, just sits there

1607
01:18:43,307 --> 01:18:46,547
Speaker 2: and watches the cricket. And I'm sure there's more to

1608
01:18:46,707 --> 01:18:48,387
Speaker 2: it than man. In fact, of course we know that

1609
01:18:48,427 --> 01:18:52,427
Speaker 2: there is. But whatever it is, whatever the secret sources

1610
01:18:52,467 --> 01:18:55,147
Speaker 2: that he's brought to this England team, I mean, wouldn't

1611
01:18:55,187 --> 01:18:56,707
Speaker 2: it be great if we had a bit of that.

1612
01:18:57,867 --> 01:19:00,747
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do need to think about I think the

1613
01:19:00,827 --> 01:19:02,387
Speaker 7: leadership and direction of the team.

1614
01:19:02,507 --> 01:19:03,587
Speaker 5: And let's wait.

1615
01:19:03,827 --> 01:19:07,547
Speaker 7: I mean, they obviously deserve a chance to to redeem themselves.

1616
01:19:07,547 --> 01:19:11,427
Speaker 7: The Third Test is not too far away, so I

1617
01:19:11,507 --> 01:19:14,707
Speaker 7: just want to see that they can perform and maybe

1618
01:19:14,747 --> 01:19:17,747
Speaker 7: recapture some of that mojo they had in India. Came

1619
01:19:17,787 --> 01:19:19,667
Speaker 7: Williamson was looking good there for a while and he

1620
01:19:19,787 --> 01:19:22,547
Speaker 7: just went past nine thousand runs and he will want

1621
01:19:22,587 --> 01:19:24,587
Speaker 7: to get to ten thousand, so I think we've got

1622
01:19:24,667 --> 01:19:27,667
Speaker 7: him for at least another calendar year, because even though

1623
01:19:27,707 --> 01:19:29,427
Speaker 7: he's quite low tea and will say, oh, you know,

1624
01:19:29,427 --> 01:19:31,827
Speaker 7: I don't care about stats. As soon as the player

1625
01:19:31,867 --> 01:19:34,787
Speaker 7: retires and writes a book, it's all about the stats.

1626
01:19:35,147 --> 01:19:36,947
Speaker 7: You know, you read it, and it's all they ever

1627
01:19:36,987 --> 01:19:39,307
Speaker 7: think about. They just learned to lie to us in

1628
01:19:39,347 --> 01:19:42,867
Speaker 7: the media during their career and that's impressive in itself really.

1629
01:19:43,907 --> 01:19:46,947
Speaker 2: And just before you go, what's there going to be

1630
01:19:46,987 --> 01:19:50,227
Speaker 2: a Raygun musical Raygun the Breakdowns from Paris?

1631
01:19:50,907 --> 01:19:52,827
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's been shut down. So if you're buying

1632
01:19:52,867 --> 01:19:56,787
Speaker 7: your tickets to Ragun the musical in Sydney, the performer

1633
01:19:56,827 --> 01:20:00,947
Speaker 7: who was going to stage it has been slapped with

1634
01:20:01,467 --> 01:20:04,707
Speaker 7: an injunction from Raygun's lawyers threatening to sue. So they've

1635
01:20:04,747 --> 01:20:08,547
Speaker 7: shut down the show. And so even though Raygun is hilarious,

1636
01:20:08,667 --> 01:20:11,507
Speaker 7: she's not laughing, is she? So she wants to be

1637
01:20:11,547 --> 01:20:14,387
Speaker 7: taken very seriously. And that's why pointing, I think you

1638
01:20:14,467 --> 01:20:16,987
Speaker 7: and I can help here and we can make it

1639
01:20:17,027 --> 01:20:22,027
Speaker 7: happen at the next Kiwi Derby at halftime, Raygun versus Raiser,

1640
01:20:22,427 --> 01:20:25,947
Speaker 7: the breakdance battle that everybody wants to see, get Ali

1641
01:20:26,027 --> 01:20:28,627
Speaker 7: Williams and the Mowbray's on the phone.

1642
01:20:29,267 --> 01:20:33,067
Speaker 2: Let's do this Raygun versus Razor. I never thought it

1643
01:20:33,107 --> 01:20:35,347
Speaker 2: would be a sentence I'd say, but if anyone was

1644
01:20:35,387 --> 01:20:37,787
Speaker 2: going to say it, it was you. James always loved

1645
01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:40,347
Speaker 2: chatting mate. Let's do it again next week.

1646
01:20:40,987 --> 01:20:42,587
Speaker 5: Cheers mate, See your pony, See.

1647
01:20:42,427 --> 01:20:44,827
Speaker 2: You, James, James mcconey. That part of our Sundays, big

1648
01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:47,507
Speaker 2: part of our Sunday is a popular part of our

1649
01:20:47,547 --> 01:20:50,067
Speaker 2: sundays here on News Talks, heb and Weekend Sport eight

1650
01:20:50,067 --> 01:20:50,987
Speaker 2: and a half away from two.

1651
01:20:52,707 --> 01:20:55,347
Speaker 1: Let's scoop from the track field and the court on

1652
01:20:55,467 --> 01:20:57,947
Speaker 1: your home of sport Weekend Sport.

1653
01:20:57,827 --> 01:20:58,867
Speaker 18: With Jason.

1654
01:21:00,267 --> 01:21:03,547
Speaker 2: Five to two After two Sir Richard Hadlee and also

1655
01:21:03,667 --> 01:21:06,747
Speaker 2: Wayne Golds with our coaching guru on why some sports

1656
01:21:06,787 --> 01:21:11,187
Speaker 2: teams fail after a period of sustained success. What is

1657
01:21:11,227 --> 01:21:13,067
Speaker 2: behind that? We'll get you back to the basin as

1658
01:21:13,107 --> 01:21:15,907
Speaker 2: well with Andrew Ortison before three o'clock seventy four for four,

1659
01:21:16,307 --> 01:21:18,547
Speaker 2: seventy four for four. Tom Blundeles got through to thirteen

1660
01:21:18,627 --> 01:21:21,467
Speaker 2: not out down on Mitchell with him there on twenty two,

1661
01:21:21,507 --> 01:21:23,467
Speaker 2: so we'll keep tabs on that as well. Just want

1662
01:21:23,507 --> 01:21:28,067
Speaker 2: to circle back to the football. Just quickly before the

1663
01:21:28,107 --> 01:21:30,827
Speaker 2: game yesterday, there's a for those who have ever been

1664
01:21:30,867 --> 01:21:33,067
Speaker 2: to go Media Stateium, there is a bar which is

1665
01:21:33,267 --> 01:21:37,107
Speaker 2: adjacent basically to the ground and you come down the

1666
01:21:37,147 --> 01:21:39,707
Speaker 2: steps and you know from the bar and you're basically

1667
01:21:39,747 --> 01:21:42,467
Speaker 2: in the ground. It's called Lily World. That is the

1668
01:21:42,547 --> 01:21:47,187
Speaker 2: name of the bar. And before the game yesterday the

1669
01:21:47,307 --> 01:21:53,787
Speaker 2: place was absolutely jumping, absolutely jumping. And at the risk

1670
01:21:53,827 --> 01:21:57,387
Speaker 2: of repeating the obvious point here, Auckland FC have done

1671
01:21:57,627 --> 01:22:00,947
Speaker 2: an absolutely superb job of building this fan base, and

1672
01:22:01,027 --> 01:22:03,547
Speaker 2: not just people who you know who come along and

1673
01:22:03,907 --> 01:22:06,787
Speaker 2: sit in a seat and watch the game, people who

1674
01:22:06,947 --> 01:22:10,867
Speaker 2: engage in the act of support that is a hallmark

1675
01:22:10,907 --> 01:22:14,307
Speaker 2: of football around the world. As Michael Burger said when

1676
01:22:14,307 --> 01:22:17,747
Speaker 2: we chatted him a short time ago yesterday, there at

1677
01:22:17,747 --> 01:22:20,827
Speaker 2: times when you looked around and I was in Lily

1678
01:22:20,867 --> 01:22:24,787
Speaker 2: WARLD for a bit before the game, just checking things out.

1679
01:22:25,187 --> 01:22:29,067
Speaker 2: I didn't purchase anything necessarily in there and a commentary

1680
01:22:29,067 --> 01:22:32,587
Speaker 2: to do, but I looked around and I thought, this

1681
01:22:32,707 --> 01:22:35,627
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a New Zealand football crowd. It feels

1682
01:22:35,667 --> 01:22:41,307
Speaker 2: like something European or South American. It was just absolutely jumping.

1683
01:22:41,347 --> 01:22:44,907
Speaker 2: I can only again reiterate the fact that whoever is

1684
01:22:44,947 --> 01:22:50,307
Speaker 2: involved in fan engagement, community engagement, marketing, everything around this

1685
01:22:50,427 --> 01:22:54,507
Speaker 2: team deserves every piece of kudos that is coming their way,

1686
01:22:54,547 --> 01:22:58,787
Speaker 2: because everybody who was there yesterday would have been saying afterwards,

1687
01:22:59,307 --> 01:23:00,987
Speaker 2: when is the next game?

1688
01:23:01,987 --> 01:23:04,867
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1689
01:23:05,267 --> 01:23:08,667
Speaker 1: and after field, It's all on WI James Ford with

1690
01:23:08,867 --> 01:23:13,627
Speaker 1: Jason Vane on your home of Sport in New York.

1691
01:23:15,147 --> 01:23:17,587
Speaker 2: Two o seven. Hello, this is Weekend Sport, the final

1692
01:23:17,627 --> 01:23:19,907
Speaker 2: hour before we hand over to the Weekend Collective Sunday

1693
01:23:20,027 --> 01:23:23,587
Speaker 2: edition to beverage in the chair from three o'clock this afternoon.

1694
01:23:25,147 --> 01:23:26,947
Speaker 2: What have we got for you between now and then?

1695
01:23:27,027 --> 01:23:30,747
Speaker 2: Sir Richard Hadley in just a moment, inducted into New

1696
01:23:30,827 --> 01:23:33,827
Speaker 2: Zealand Crickets Hall of Fame on Thursday night. When they

1697
01:23:33,827 --> 01:23:36,667
Speaker 2: came up with the idea of this, I'm pretty sure

1698
01:23:36,747 --> 01:23:39,187
Speaker 2: that Sir Richard Hadley was one of the first names

1699
01:23:39,187 --> 01:23:42,467
Speaker 2: they wrote down as an inductee and so it proved

1700
01:23:42,467 --> 01:23:45,627
Speaker 2: to be so. His thoughts on this induction and some

1701
01:23:45,667 --> 01:23:48,347
Speaker 2: of the highlights of his career. Sir Richard Hadley shortly

1702
01:23:48,947 --> 01:23:51,667
Speaker 2: Wayne Goldsmith, our coaching guru, has been a regular part

1703
01:23:51,667 --> 01:23:54,667
Speaker 2: of our weekend sport program across the year. He'll pop

1704
01:23:54,707 --> 01:23:57,827
Speaker 2: in for one final time in twenty twenty four on

1705
01:23:57,867 --> 01:24:00,147
Speaker 2: the subject of why there are some sports teams who

1706
01:24:00,227 --> 01:24:04,067
Speaker 2: have success for a long, prolonged period of time and

1707
01:24:04,067 --> 01:24:06,107
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden fall off a cliff and

1708
01:24:06,627 --> 01:24:09,387
Speaker 2: having that success even though they're probably doing the same

1709
01:24:09,427 --> 01:24:11,667
Speaker 2: things that they've always done. What is the reason for that?

1710
01:24:13,107 --> 01:24:16,107
Speaker 2: Wayne Goldsmith? This out back to the basement as well

1711
01:24:16,107 --> 01:24:19,467
Speaker 2: with Andrew Ortison before three the rain hasn't arrived yet

1712
01:24:19,467 --> 01:24:22,347
Speaker 2: eighty two for four New Zealand, Daryl Mitchell and Tom

1713
01:24:22,347 --> 01:24:26,427
Speaker 2: Blundell together twenty five and eighteen respectively, eighty two for

1714
01:24:26,507 --> 01:24:29,907
Speaker 2: four chasing five hundred and eighty three, so just a

1715
01:24:29,947 --> 01:24:33,387
Speaker 2: small matter of five hundred and one more runs for victory.

1716
01:24:33,427 --> 01:24:36,987
Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date with any action between

1717
01:24:37,027 --> 01:24:39,427
Speaker 2: now and when we close it. Three and also plankets

1718
01:24:39,427 --> 01:24:42,587
Speaker 2: sheeld cricket happening around the place as well. Your calls

1719
01:24:42,587 --> 01:24:46,387
Speaker 2: and correspondents always welcome on the show. Encouraged oh eight

1720
01:24:46,427 --> 01:24:48,707
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighties the phone number nine two ninety

1721
01:24:48,707 --> 01:24:51,507
Speaker 2: two if you'd like to send a text, But as

1722
01:24:51,547 --> 01:24:53,667
Speaker 2: we always do, at a round about this time on

1723
01:24:53,707 --> 01:24:58,467
Speaker 2: weekend sport. The music will tell you it's time to

1724
01:24:58,507 --> 01:25:01,027
Speaker 2: catch you up on some of the things you might

1725
01:25:01,027 --> 01:25:03,827
Speaker 2: have missed in case you missed it, with a bunch

1726
01:25:03,867 --> 01:25:07,507
Speaker 2: of sport happening around the place. We start in Wellington,

1727
01:25:08,067 --> 01:25:11,907
Speaker 2: where the Breakers have slumped to a fourth straight defeat

1728
01:25:12,107 --> 01:25:15,107
Speaker 2: in the Australian Basketball League. So big win for the

1729
01:25:15,107 --> 01:25:15,947
Speaker 2: Sydney Kings.

1730
01:25:15,987 --> 01:25:20,827
Speaker 25: They come to Wellington and take the chocolates. They stay

1731
01:25:21,227 --> 01:25:24,387
Speaker 25: above five hundred and moved to nine and seven and

1732
01:25:24,547 --> 01:25:27,107
Speaker 25: they leap frog the Breakers into third.

1733
01:25:26,867 --> 01:25:29,787
Speaker 2: Spot on the table. Here ninety eight eighty three to

1734
01:25:29,907 --> 01:25:34,027
Speaker 2: the Sydney Kings over the Breakers in Wellington. Australia have

1735
01:25:34,107 --> 01:25:36,987
Speaker 2: a firm grip on the second cricket Test against India

1736
01:25:37,107 --> 01:25:41,107
Speaker 2: in Adelaide, the day night Pinkball Test. Travis Head was

1737
01:25:41,187 --> 01:25:43,707
Speaker 2: the batting hero on day two.

1738
01:25:43,947 --> 01:25:46,667
Speaker 18: He chove his head.

1739
01:25:47,747 --> 01:25:53,827
Speaker 26: Gets the people one day one, tell them they Breakers

1740
01:25:54,107 --> 01:26:01,387
Speaker 26: von a Test century on the first South Australian to score.

1741
01:26:01,187 --> 01:26:06,387
Speaker 2: Three centuries over Travis Head one hundred and forty of

1742
01:26:06,427 --> 01:26:08,907
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty one balls to hope help Australia

1743
01:26:08,947 --> 01:26:11,947
Speaker 2: post three thirty seven and that gave them the first

1744
01:26:11,987 --> 01:26:14,547
Speaker 2: innings buffer of one hundred and fifty seven India. In

1745
01:26:14,627 --> 01:26:16,787
Speaker 2: their second innings it stumps one hundred and twenty eight

1746
01:26:16,867 --> 01:26:20,227
Speaker 2: for five, so still trailing by twenty nine runs with

1747
01:26:20,307 --> 01:26:24,907
Speaker 2: only five second innings wickets in hand. Contrasting fortunes for

1748
01:26:24,947 --> 01:26:27,387
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Sevens sides at the second the end

1749
01:26:27,387 --> 01:26:29,867
Speaker 2: of the New World Series season in Cape Town, with

1750
01:26:30,067 --> 01:26:33,507
Speaker 2: only the winners of the four polls advancing to the

1751
01:26:33,547 --> 01:26:36,707
Speaker 2: Cup semi finals under a new format. The Black fern

1752
01:26:36,707 --> 01:26:37,907
Speaker 2: And Sevens have done just that.

1753
01:26:38,107 --> 01:26:39,187
Speaker 17: Through the hands of Niko.

1754
01:26:39,667 --> 01:26:43,427
Speaker 27: Quickly looking to release that woman, Vaha Calor switches the

1755
01:26:43,467 --> 01:26:46,467
Speaker 27: ball in hand, just holding up for the Ferns cake them.

1756
01:26:46,547 --> 01:26:50,067
Speaker 27: Vaha calll with a strong finish for.

1757
01:26:50,227 --> 01:26:52,867
Speaker 2: New Zealand, a forty to ten win for New Zealand

1758
01:26:52,907 --> 01:26:54,947
Speaker 2: over China and to come from behind twenty two to

1759
01:26:55,027 --> 01:26:58,427
Speaker 2: twelve victory over Japan. The New Zealand men, though can

1760
01:26:58,507 --> 01:27:00,987
Speaker 2: only finish fifth at best, is.

1761
01:27:01,027 --> 01:27:03,227
Speaker 27: Closing this out now, marching on their way to a

1762
01:27:03,307 --> 01:27:06,027
Speaker 27: semi final set up by that quite.

1763
01:27:05,907 --> 01:27:08,707
Speaker 2: Magnificent the first half. They didn't put a foot.

1764
01:27:08,547 --> 01:27:09,947
Speaker 17: Wrong and all they're not going to put.

1765
01:27:09,827 --> 01:27:14,187
Speaker 27: One wrong here as keeps his feet another of these

1766
01:27:14,387 --> 01:27:17,547
Speaker 27: young guns a twenty one year old, and I though

1767
01:27:18,427 --> 01:27:20,947
Speaker 27: scores for France comprehensive.

1768
01:27:21,187 --> 01:27:24,187
Speaker 2: Indeed it was a forty seven to fifteen thumping by France,

1769
01:27:24,307 --> 01:27:26,667
Speaker 2: resigning New Zealand to second and there Paul having earlier

1770
01:27:26,867 --> 01:27:32,027
Speaker 2: edged the USA nineteen seventeen. And Chris Wood, as mentioned

1771
01:27:32,067 --> 01:27:34,907
Speaker 2: in the last hour, his latest Premier League goal on

1772
01:27:35,067 --> 01:27:38,707
Speaker 2: his thirty third birthday, helping Nottingham Forest to a three

1773
01:27:38,747 --> 01:27:42,507
Speaker 2: to two away win over Manchester United, their first win

1774
01:27:42,747 --> 01:27:45,267
Speaker 2: at Old Trafford in three decades.

1775
01:27:45,627 --> 01:27:51,347
Speaker 22: What is it the back post, Chris Wood Fitz Chris

1776
01:27:51,467 --> 01:27:56,587
Speaker 22: Wood celebrates the birth take coal and not your forest

1777
01:27:56,707 --> 01:27:56,987
Speaker 22: of it?

1778
01:27:57,227 --> 01:28:00,507
Speaker 4: Two Coal lead now at Old Trafford. It is a

1779
01:28:00,627 --> 01:28:04,867
Speaker 4: goal that establishes Chris Wood on his own. Now that's

1780
01:28:04,987 --> 01:28:09,467
Speaker 4: nodding of Forest high school scorer off the Premier League era.

1781
01:28:10,387 --> 01:28:14,107
Speaker 1: The tough Questions off the turf Weekend Sport with Jason

1782
01:28:14,187 --> 01:28:18,587
Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Garnnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News.

1783
01:28:18,427 --> 01:28:22,667
Speaker 2: Dogs twelve minutes past two. Sir Richard Hadley, one of

1784
01:28:22,787 --> 01:28:25,747
Speaker 2: the best fast bowlers in the world for most of

1785
01:28:25,867 --> 01:28:28,987
Speaker 2: his Test cricket career. The first man to take four

1786
01:28:29,147 --> 01:28:32,907
Speaker 2: hundred Test wickets and an absolute match winner for New Zealand.

1787
01:28:32,947 --> 01:28:36,387
Speaker 2: Before he started playing, New Zealand had won just seven

1788
01:28:36,667 --> 01:28:39,627
Speaker 2: Test matches. When he retired, he had played a role

1789
01:28:39,787 --> 01:28:44,307
Speaker 2: in a further twenty two Test match victories. Sir Richards's

1790
01:28:44,387 --> 01:28:47,747
Speaker 2: eventual career total of four hundred and thirty one Test

1791
01:28:47,827 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 2: wickets was strewn with outstanding performances, a world record thirty

1792
01:28:52,667 --> 01:28:56,427
Speaker 2: six five wicket bags and none more impressive than on

1793
01:28:56,547 --> 01:28:59,787
Speaker 2: the eighty five eighty six Test tour of Australia, during

1794
01:28:59,867 --> 01:29:03,707
Speaker 2: which he took thirty three wickets in three Tests, including

1795
01:29:03,747 --> 01:29:06,507
Speaker 2: a best ever nine to fifty two in Bris.

1796
01:29:07,867 --> 01:29:08,307
Speaker 24: Be Gone.

1797
01:29:08,467 --> 01:29:11,587
Speaker 21: Yes, nine wickets. What a wonderful performance for Richard Hadley,

1798
01:29:11,987 --> 01:29:14,347
Speaker 21: one of the all times great performances at the Gabba

1799
01:29:14,947 --> 01:29:17,667
Speaker 21: his teammates for us to congratuate the credit class bar

1800
01:29:17,907 --> 01:29:20,347
Speaker 21: and what a privilege it has been to watch that performance.

1801
01:29:20,547 --> 01:29:23,187
Speaker 2: On Thursday night, Sir Richard Hadley was unveiled as one

1802
01:29:23,227 --> 01:29:26,547
Speaker 2: of the first eleven inductees into New Zealand Crickets Hall

1803
01:29:26,587 --> 01:29:30,107
Speaker 2: of Fame. After that induction ceremony on Thursday night, I

1804
01:29:30,187 --> 01:29:32,907
Speaker 2: had the chance to speak with Sir Richard Hadley, Sir

1805
01:29:32,987 --> 01:29:34,747
Speaker 2: Richard Hadley, it seems to me as though when they

1806
01:29:34,787 --> 01:29:37,347
Speaker 2: were putting together the inaugural inductees, your name was going

1807
01:29:37,387 --> 01:29:38,987
Speaker 2: to be near the top of the list. How do

1808
01:29:39,067 --> 01:29:42,987
Speaker 2: you reflect on your cricket career and it's totality first

1809
01:29:43,027 --> 01:29:45,867
Speaker 2: of all, when you think back to those many great moments.

1810
01:29:46,147 --> 01:29:47,867
Speaker 15: Oh, look, I had a wonderful time in the game

1811
01:29:47,907 --> 01:29:52,547
Speaker 15: of cricket in an eighteen year international career, a twenty

1812
01:29:52,627 --> 01:29:53,867
Speaker 15: year first class career.

1813
01:29:54,707 --> 01:29:56,667
Speaker 3: Very proud of what I've been able to achieve.

1814
01:29:56,787 --> 01:30:01,587
Speaker 15: There been a lot of significant milestones personally but collective

1815
01:30:01,627 --> 01:30:03,787
Speaker 15: for as a team too. Played in an era in

1816
01:30:03,827 --> 01:30:08,027
Speaker 15: the seventies and eighties when we were doing many firsts

1817
01:30:08,067 --> 01:30:10,187
Speaker 15: in the history of New Zealand cricket. When you beat

1818
01:30:10,227 --> 01:30:13,427
Speaker 15: Australia for the first time as we did at Lancaster

1819
01:30:13,547 --> 01:30:17,267
Speaker 15: Park seventy four, beating England for the first time at

1820
01:30:17,307 --> 01:30:20,027
Speaker 15: the base in Reserve and Wellington and seventy eight, and

1821
01:30:20,107 --> 01:30:24,267
Speaker 15: then we had significant first victories offshore beating England and

1822
01:30:24,347 --> 01:30:27,147
Speaker 15: eighty three at Headingly and then we had won the

1823
01:30:27,267 --> 01:30:31,147
Speaker 15: series there in eighty six and beating Australia and Australia

1824
01:30:31,187 --> 01:30:33,947
Speaker 15: for the first time in eighty five six the Gabatez

1825
01:30:34,267 --> 01:30:36,587
Speaker 15: went on to take the series to win. So those

1826
01:30:36,667 --> 01:30:42,027
Speaker 15: significant firsts will always outweigh personal milestones, and people tend

1827
01:30:42,067 --> 01:30:44,267
Speaker 15: to remember when you'd done things for the first time.

1828
01:30:45,067 --> 01:30:48,627
Speaker 15: But as far as runs and wickets, we're concerned if

1829
01:30:48,627 --> 01:30:50,667
Speaker 15: you play the games and you bowl the balls and

1830
01:30:51,227 --> 01:30:52,187
Speaker 15: you're going to get wickets.

1831
01:30:52,227 --> 01:30:54,427
Speaker 3: If you're out there batting, you're going to accumulate runs.

1832
01:30:54,867 --> 01:30:57,787
Speaker 15: And in my career accumulate a lot of runs and

1833
01:30:57,867 --> 01:31:00,267
Speaker 15: a lot of wickets, and I can look back with

1834
01:31:00,787 --> 01:31:04,187
Speaker 15: bond memories and great pride of what I was able

1835
01:31:04,267 --> 01:31:05,867
Speaker 15: to achieve. On an individual basis.

1836
01:31:06,427 --> 01:31:08,987
Speaker 2: We talk about some of those performances that I went

1837
01:31:09,067 --> 01:31:11,947
Speaker 2: over England out here for the first time nineteen seventy eight.

1838
01:31:12,907 --> 01:31:15,187
Speaker 2: You know, Richard Collins, obviously not to have a Jeff Boycott,

1839
01:31:15,227 --> 01:31:17,467
Speaker 2: but then you did the damage with six for twenty six.

1840
01:31:18,387 --> 01:31:21,387
Speaker 2: Where does that particular test rate beating England.

1841
01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:26,387
Speaker 15: Well, it was significant in fact, Richard Collins, we needed

1842
01:31:26,427 --> 01:31:28,987
Speaker 15: a miracle basically because we got bowled out cheaply in

1843
01:31:29,027 --> 01:31:32,107
Speaker 15: the second innings in England and you need one hundred

1844
01:31:32,107 --> 01:31:35,587
Speaker 15: and thirty seven to win and we were walking down

1845
01:31:36,307 --> 01:31:38,067
Speaker 15: the steps onto the field to play.

1846
01:31:37,867 --> 01:31:39,387
Speaker 3: And we're being booed at.

1847
01:31:39,467 --> 01:31:43,787
Speaker 15: We're being jaed a bit because the spectators are saying,

1848
01:31:43,827 --> 01:31:46,507
Speaker 15: where you're blowing again, New Zealand. You put yourself in

1849
01:31:46,587 --> 01:31:49,107
Speaker 15: a position of winning and you've just let the opposition

1850
01:31:49,307 --> 01:31:53,027
Speaker 15: back in the game. And I remember saying to Richard Collins, look, Rock,

1851
01:31:53,907 --> 01:31:56,987
Speaker 15: we need something sensational to happen. Well, the thing that

1852
01:31:57,147 --> 01:32:00,507
Speaker 15: was sensational was Coycott being knocked over for a duck,

1853
01:32:01,027 --> 01:32:03,347
Speaker 15: and so they were one for none and Rock picked

1854
01:32:03,427 --> 01:32:05,787
Speaker 15: up the first three wickets, so they were three for

1855
01:32:06,467 --> 01:32:09,627
Speaker 15: not many, and I hit Brian Rose on the elbow

1856
01:32:09,707 --> 01:32:12,067
Speaker 15: and he decided to use his elbow to hit the ball,

1857
01:32:12,787 --> 01:32:14,827
Speaker 15: and so I had to retire hurt, probably with a

1858
01:32:14,867 --> 01:32:19,147
Speaker 15: broken broken arm. So effectively they were four or five

1859
01:32:19,307 --> 01:32:23,067
Speaker 15: down for eighteen and Rocket done the damage and then

1860
01:32:23,107 --> 01:32:24,587
Speaker 15: I was able to come in on the back of

1861
01:32:24,667 --> 01:32:28,267
Speaker 15: it to pick up the next sort of four wickets.

1862
01:32:28,467 --> 01:32:30,667
Speaker 15: We had to come back the next day to mop

1863
01:32:30,787 --> 01:32:34,547
Speaker 15: up the tail, which took about thirty forty minutes or something,

1864
01:32:34,907 --> 01:32:36,707
Speaker 15: so I ended up with six. But the thing that

1865
01:32:36,907 --> 01:32:40,227
Speaker 15: was quite emotional for me is that my father had

1866
01:32:40,307 --> 01:32:45,067
Speaker 15: been involved with New Zealand creget since nineteen thirty seven

1867
01:32:45,107 --> 01:32:46,827
Speaker 15: when he were on the first tur of England, took

1868
01:32:46,867 --> 01:32:50,107
Speaker 15: the forty nine team to England as captain and then

1869
01:32:50,187 --> 01:32:53,107
Speaker 15: he was a board member and president of New Zealand

1870
01:32:53,147 --> 01:32:56,387
Speaker 15: Cricket and over the years he had never seen New

1871
01:32:56,507 --> 01:33:00,707
Speaker 15: Zealand beat England. And it took something like forty eight

1872
01:33:00,867 --> 01:33:03,387
Speaker 15: years from our first test in nineteen thirty forty eight

1873
01:33:03,507 --> 01:33:08,027
Speaker 15: tests to seventy eight to win that game against England

1874
01:33:08,267 --> 01:33:12,467
Speaker 15: and probably involved fifty tests that we're played against the

1875
01:33:12,587 --> 01:33:15,187
Speaker 15: other nation. So be able to do it not only

1876
01:33:15,267 --> 01:33:18,987
Speaker 15: for myself the team, but to fulfill an ambition dream

1877
01:33:19,067 --> 01:33:22,387
Speaker 15: for him made it even more significant.

1878
01:33:22,787 --> 01:33:24,787
Speaker 2: And what about wi can number three hundred out here?

1879
01:33:24,947 --> 01:33:28,227
Speaker 2: I sat on the bank patiently waiting for it to arrive.

1880
01:33:28,347 --> 01:33:29,787
Speaker 2: And I think it was in the middle of the

1881
01:33:29,827 --> 01:33:32,547
Speaker 2: middle session from memory that you finally got Alan Border lbw,

1882
01:33:32,867 --> 01:33:34,787
Speaker 2: Fred Gotdall got his finger up. I think it's still up.

1883
01:33:35,467 --> 01:33:36,947
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you remember of that day?

1884
01:33:37,547 --> 01:33:42,667
Speaker 15: Well, going into that test, I think I needed one

1885
01:33:42,747 --> 01:33:45,467
Speaker 15: record to get to three hundred, and there's a lot

1886
01:33:45,547 --> 01:33:50,027
Speaker 15: of people wagering bets as to how many balls it

1887
01:33:50,067 --> 01:33:56,267
Speaker 15: would take, how long it would be media speculation, you know,

1888
01:33:56,787 --> 01:34:00,387
Speaker 15: creating a lot of interest basically, and obviously I was

1889
01:34:00,427 --> 01:34:03,147
Speaker 15: hoping to do it in the first spell, get it

1890
01:34:03,267 --> 01:34:04,387
Speaker 15: over and done with the players.

1891
01:34:04,427 --> 01:34:07,587
Speaker 3: We're aware of it. All they wanted was for me

1892
01:34:07,707 --> 01:34:09,587
Speaker 3: to get it out of the way so we can

1893
01:34:09,627 --> 01:34:10,387
Speaker 3: get on with the game.

1894
01:34:10,747 --> 01:34:14,427
Speaker 15: So mid afternoon something like that. Fred Goodll had his

1895
01:34:14,547 --> 01:34:16,027
Speaker 15: finger up before I even appealed.

1896
01:34:16,387 --> 01:34:17,347
Speaker 17: That was that dead.

1897
01:34:19,747 --> 01:34:23,907
Speaker 15: And so when you reach milestones like that, you're knocking

1898
01:34:23,947 --> 01:34:26,187
Speaker 15: off sort of targets or goals that you have.

1899
01:34:26,387 --> 01:34:29,827
Speaker 3: Because when I got that three hundred test wig, I

1900
01:34:29,987 --> 01:34:30,827
Speaker 3: was one of six.

1901
01:34:30,987 --> 01:34:34,587
Speaker 15: Now too got those those wigets, So I was in

1902
01:34:34,867 --> 01:34:37,387
Speaker 15: an elite group of bowlers in the history.

1903
01:34:37,107 --> 01:34:37,507
Speaker 23: Of the game.

1904
01:34:38,827 --> 01:34:40,867
Speaker 15: But I had to knock off five who were still

1905
01:34:40,947 --> 01:34:43,667
Speaker 15: in front of me. So over a period of years,

1906
01:34:43,747 --> 01:34:46,227
Speaker 15: another four or five years, you knock them off one

1907
01:34:46,267 --> 01:34:48,907
Speaker 15: at a time and you get pasty in both them,

1908
01:34:48,907 --> 01:34:53,467
Speaker 15: which I did in India twelfth and over nine eighty eight.

1909
01:34:53,987 --> 01:34:58,747
Speaker 15: Aaron Lale LBW remember it well. So that got me

1910
01:34:59,187 --> 01:35:02,067
Speaker 15: pasty in both and get the three seventy four and

1911
01:35:02,147 --> 01:35:04,387
Speaker 15: then there's only one goal left to keep me in

1912
01:35:04,467 --> 01:35:07,147
Speaker 15: the game, and that was to get four hundred. Me

1913
01:35:07,267 --> 01:35:10,147
Speaker 15: the first to do that, and that was my Everest.

1914
01:35:10,867 --> 01:35:15,027
Speaker 15: And it took me eighteen years to conker my Everest.

1915
01:35:15,227 --> 01:35:17,347
Speaker 15: I'm not sure how long it took Sad Hillary to

1916
01:35:17,627 --> 01:35:20,907
Speaker 15: conker is Everest. Who he might have taken, I don't know.

1917
01:35:21,107 --> 01:35:23,187
Speaker 15: Was it a week, ten days, two weeks, I don't know.

1918
01:35:23,507 --> 01:35:26,227
Speaker 15: It took me eighteen years to get to the top

1919
01:35:26,347 --> 01:35:29,667
Speaker 15: and then slither down the other side with retirement.

1920
01:35:29,827 --> 01:35:31,907
Speaker 3: So no, that would magic ties.

1921
01:35:32,507 --> 01:35:35,627
Speaker 2: And I must ask you about the gather nine for

1922
01:35:35,747 --> 01:35:38,707
Speaker 2: fifty two. I think I could probably recite the commentary

1923
01:35:38,747 --> 01:35:40,747
Speaker 2: of all nine wickets and in fact the tenth one

1924
01:35:41,027 --> 01:35:43,747
Speaker 2: Jeff Lawson caught by yourself off Vaughn Brown might have

1925
01:35:43,747 --> 01:35:46,827
Speaker 2: been his only Test wickt Vaughn Brown, you know, yeah,

1926
01:35:47,347 --> 01:35:50,187
Speaker 2: another very special Test match sicher Well, it.

1927
01:35:50,347 --> 01:35:53,547
Speaker 15: Was as far as the nine wickets were concerned, I

1928
01:35:53,667 --> 01:35:56,747
Speaker 15: had eight. I had eight in a row then I

1929
01:35:56,827 --> 01:35:59,067
Speaker 15: took the catch. It's not to give Vaughan Brown his

1930
01:35:59,187 --> 01:36:01,787
Speaker 15: first Test wigget and people off and asked when the

1931
01:36:01,827 --> 01:36:03,667
Speaker 15: ball went up in the air when Jeff laws And

1932
01:36:03,747 --> 01:36:05,787
Speaker 15: swept it. And I think I was feeling at mid

1933
01:36:05,907 --> 01:36:09,027
Speaker 15: rock on I had to do ten to twenty meters

1934
01:36:09,107 --> 01:36:10,787
Speaker 15: to catch it around mid wicket.

1935
01:36:11,107 --> 01:36:12,507
Speaker 3: People said, do you think of dropping it?

1936
01:36:12,947 --> 01:36:13,987
Speaker 5: And I said, n.

1937
01:36:15,907 --> 01:36:17,347
Speaker 3: What do you do if the ball goes up in

1938
01:36:17,427 --> 01:36:20,027
Speaker 3: the air. Of course you catch it, So that thought

1939
01:36:20,147 --> 01:36:22,947
Speaker 3: never entered my mind. So that happened now.

1940
01:36:22,987 --> 01:36:25,587
Speaker 15: I came back and got the last to make it

1941
01:36:25,707 --> 01:36:29,427
Speaker 15: ten and fortunate to get six wickets in the second innings.

1942
01:36:29,427 --> 01:36:32,467
Speaker 15: I had to work hard for that border of Matthew's

1943
01:36:32,507 --> 01:36:35,627
Speaker 15: got hundreds in that second inning, so it was quite

1944
01:36:35,627 --> 01:36:38,027
Speaker 15: a lot more harder to get wickets in the second

1945
01:36:38,067 --> 01:36:42,907
Speaker 15: innings in the first, but obviously that set up a

1946
01:36:42,947 --> 01:36:46,147
Speaker 15: good chance of victory when we bowled them out for

1947
01:36:46,227 --> 01:36:49,027
Speaker 15: I won sixty one seventy and then we pile on

1948
01:36:49,147 --> 01:36:52,067
Speaker 15: something like five hundred Martin Crow one hundred and eighty

1949
01:36:52,067 --> 01:36:54,547
Speaker 15: eight and it's John Reid one hundred as well, so

1950
01:36:54,627 --> 01:36:57,667
Speaker 15: we had a significant lead and we had plenty of

1951
01:36:57,747 --> 01:37:00,947
Speaker 15: time to bowl them out and ended up winning by

1952
01:37:00,947 --> 01:37:04,067
Speaker 15: an innings and I think forty four runs to knock

1953
01:37:04,107 --> 01:37:06,267
Speaker 15: it off in Australia for the first time.

1954
01:37:07,067 --> 01:37:09,187
Speaker 3: The Aussies weren't talking two months, that's what we're sure,

1955
01:37:09,667 --> 01:37:11,027
Speaker 3: and we were enjoying the moment.

1956
01:37:11,227 --> 01:37:14,747
Speaker 15: It was a magical moment lost at Sydney and then

1957
01:37:14,827 --> 01:37:16,907
Speaker 15: went at Perth to take the series.

1958
01:37:17,547 --> 01:37:22,067
Speaker 2: Just to finish the stats mention about the relative infrequency

1959
01:37:22,107 --> 01:37:25,067
Speaker 2: of New Zealand Test wins up toll when you got

1960
01:37:25,147 --> 01:37:27,547
Speaker 2: your first one and the number that you were involved

1961
01:37:27,587 --> 01:37:29,547
Speaker 2: in twenty two I think was the number of Test

1962
01:37:29,667 --> 01:37:32,947
Speaker 2: victories you played a part and then often a significant part.

1963
01:37:34,187 --> 01:37:36,707
Speaker 2: Was that something that you were also very keen to

1964
01:37:36,787 --> 01:37:40,627
Speaker 2: do to drive New Zealand to victories through your own performances.

1965
01:37:40,827 --> 01:37:43,507
Speaker 15: Well, my job simply with a new ball is to

1966
01:37:44,027 --> 01:37:49,107
Speaker 15: get wickets, early wickets and being really the only out

1967
01:37:49,107 --> 01:37:51,867
Speaker 15: and out strike bowler. We had good medium pace bowlers,

1968
01:37:52,387 --> 01:37:55,067
Speaker 15: but as an attacking bowler was always having three slips

1969
01:37:55,107 --> 01:37:58,267
Speaker 15: in a gully. I'm always going to get the new ball,

1970
01:37:59,227 --> 01:38:01,867
Speaker 15: and I'm going to bowl just before lunch, and I'm

1971
01:38:01,867 --> 01:38:04,787
Speaker 15: going to bowl just after lunch, before tea, after tea,

1972
01:38:05,187 --> 01:38:08,547
Speaker 15: when the second new ball, I get the bowl at nine,

1973
01:38:08,627 --> 01:38:12,627
Speaker 15: ten eleven, right, So I was always having greater opportunities

1974
01:38:12,667 --> 01:38:16,387
Speaker 15: than other bowlers who really complimented me at the other

1975
01:38:16,587 --> 01:38:19,187
Speaker 15: end by keeping it tight and sure they'd get wickets

1976
01:38:19,187 --> 01:38:23,667
Speaker 15: as well, no question about that. But everyone's got a

1977
01:38:23,787 --> 01:38:28,347
Speaker 15: role in the team to play, and I always saw

1978
01:38:28,467 --> 01:38:35,107
Speaker 15: myself as the addressor the attacker, stamping my presence on

1979
01:38:35,267 --> 01:38:38,667
Speaker 15: the ground in front of batsmen, that sort of thing.

1980
01:38:39,107 --> 01:38:41,387
Speaker 15: And when you think about it, it's always the bowler

1981
01:38:41,827 --> 01:38:46,267
Speaker 15: who dictates play. He dictates play wherever he pitches the

1982
01:38:46,347 --> 01:38:50,347
Speaker 15: ball affects an outcome where the runs are scored. The

1983
01:38:50,427 --> 01:38:53,507
Speaker 15: batsman lets the ball go now he plays and miss

1984
01:38:53,587 --> 01:38:57,587
Speaker 15: gets it on the pad. The bowler always dictates play

1985
01:38:57,827 --> 01:39:00,107
Speaker 15: and the batsman has to have a response to that.

1986
01:39:00,587 --> 01:39:04,147
Speaker 15: Now that's not to say the bowler always dominates, because

1987
01:39:04,227 --> 01:39:07,747
Speaker 15: batsmen also dominate, and they could score hundreds, two hundreds

1988
01:39:07,747 --> 01:39:11,307
Speaker 15: and three hundreds. So my mentality was to accept the

1989
01:39:11,347 --> 01:39:15,667
Speaker 15: responsibility to try and get wickets, and the guys in

1990
01:39:15,747 --> 01:39:18,827
Speaker 15: a supporting role, with particularly in catching behind the wicket,

1991
01:39:19,187 --> 01:39:23,707
Speaker 15: were hugely significant in the successes I had because if

1992
01:39:23,747 --> 01:39:26,547
Speaker 15: you're catching at ninety ninety five percent, you're going to

1993
01:39:26,587 --> 01:39:29,627
Speaker 15: win games and bowlers are going to get wickets. But

1994
01:39:29,747 --> 01:39:32,387
Speaker 15: if you're dropping eight catches in as.

1995
01:39:33,667 --> 01:39:36,787
Speaker 3: Dare I say it, you're always behind the game.

1996
01:39:37,347 --> 01:39:42,067
Speaker 15: So collectively we all had roles minus the bowl and

1997
01:39:42,267 --> 01:39:44,947
Speaker 15: get wickets. Others were to do whatever they had to do,

1998
01:39:45,107 --> 01:39:49,427
Speaker 15: but fielding was vital in the successes that I had, four.

1999
01:39:49,347 --> 01:39:51,947
Speaker 2: Hundred and thirty one of them, so many significant moments.

2000
01:39:51,947 --> 01:39:54,627
Speaker 2: Sir Richard, congratulations on your induction and thank you for

2001
01:39:54,707 --> 01:39:55,547
Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat.

2002
01:39:55,707 --> 01:39:56,347
Speaker 3: Pleasir, thank you.

2003
01:39:56,667 --> 01:40:00,547
Speaker 2: That is Sir Richard Hadley at the induction ceremony for

2004
01:40:00,867 --> 01:40:03,907
Speaker 2: the first inductees in the Crickets Hall of Fame at

2005
01:40:03,987 --> 01:40:07,387
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Cricket Museum based on Reserve on Thursday evening.

2006
01:40:07,427 --> 01:40:11,107
Speaker 2: Still sharpest attack. Get the feeling he could probably probably

2007
01:40:11,147 --> 01:40:13,107
Speaker 2: give you the details of his four hundred and thirty

2008
01:40:13,147 --> 01:40:16,227
Speaker 2: one Test wickets. First bloke to get four hundred. Of course,

2009
01:40:16,787 --> 01:40:21,227
Speaker 2: seventeen men have now taken four hundred Test wickets, and

2010
01:40:21,787 --> 01:40:25,707
Speaker 2: obviously Mattia Marilutherin is top of the pile with eight hundred.

2011
01:40:26,787 --> 01:40:29,867
Speaker 2: Shane Warns seven hundred and eight Jimmy Anderson seven hundred

2012
01:40:29,907 --> 01:40:32,747
Speaker 2: and four are the top three. But when you look

2013
01:40:32,787 --> 01:40:35,947
Speaker 2: at the bowlers who have taken four hundred Test wickets

2014
01:40:35,987 --> 01:40:39,547
Speaker 2: and you look at the average of each of them,

2015
01:40:40,027 --> 01:40:43,747
Speaker 2: Sir Richard Hadley stacks up with all of them pretty much.

2016
01:40:44,107 --> 01:40:47,707
Speaker 2: The only guy who's taken four hundred Test wickets plus

2017
01:40:48,387 --> 01:40:51,907
Speaker 2: at a better average than Sir Richard's twenty two point

2018
01:40:51,987 --> 01:40:55,707
Speaker 2: twenty nine. Is Glen McGrath his five hundred and sixty

2019
01:40:55,747 --> 01:40:59,187
Speaker 2: three wickets at twenty one point sixty four, But all

2020
01:40:59,267 --> 01:41:01,947
Speaker 2: of the others have a higher average per wicket than

2021
01:41:01,987 --> 01:41:05,387
Speaker 2: Sir Richard Hadley. And then you look at strike rates. Well,

2022
01:41:05,427 --> 01:41:07,987
Speaker 2: first of all, Sir Richard he hadly only played eighty

2023
01:41:08,107 --> 01:41:11,707
Speaker 2: six Test matches. Everybody else on this list has played far,

2024
01:41:11,907 --> 01:41:14,667
Speaker 2: far more than that. Jimmy Anderson's played one hundred and

2025
01:41:14,787 --> 01:41:18,507
Speaker 2: eighty eight Test matches, so over one hundred more Tests

2026
01:41:19,067 --> 01:41:22,307
Speaker 2: than Sir Richard. But strike rates, in other words, balls

2027
01:41:22,387 --> 01:41:26,267
Speaker 2: per wicket. Sir Richard Hadley took a wicket every fifty

2028
01:41:26,387 --> 01:41:29,747
Speaker 2: point eighty five balls, So what's that about one every

2029
01:41:29,787 --> 01:41:33,427
Speaker 2: seven overs? Now eight overs six six eight forty eight.

2030
01:41:33,507 --> 01:41:37,067
Speaker 2: There you go about one every eight overs. Apart from

2031
01:41:37,187 --> 01:41:39,107
Speaker 2: Dale Stain, who's a bit of an outlier here, he

2032
01:41:39,147 --> 01:41:41,507
Speaker 2: took a wicket every forty two and a bit deliveries.

2033
01:41:41,987 --> 01:41:44,227
Speaker 2: That is again as good as anybody on that list.

2034
01:41:44,827 --> 01:41:47,947
Speaker 2: So in terms of the average and the strike rate

2035
01:41:48,027 --> 01:41:50,347
Speaker 2: for Sir Richard and just the frequency at which the

2036
01:41:50,387 --> 01:41:55,507
Speaker 2: wickets appeared, he was an absolute titan of the game

2037
01:41:55,987 --> 01:41:58,387
Speaker 2: from his Test debut in nineteen seventy three to his

2038
01:41:58,467 --> 01:42:01,707
Speaker 2: final Test in nineteen ninety a wicket with his final

2039
01:42:01,787 --> 01:42:04,427
Speaker 2: ball in Test cricket is four hundred and thirty first

2040
01:42:05,187 --> 01:42:09,627
Speaker 2: just an absolute champion of the game. Ninety six for four.

2041
01:42:09,707 --> 01:42:13,707
Speaker 2: Now New Zealand, so these two Tom Blundell and Darryl

2042
01:42:13,787 --> 01:42:17,067
Speaker 2: Mitchell is starting to show a bit of steal, show

2043
01:42:17,067 --> 01:42:20,147
Speaker 2: a bit of fight. Tom Blundell, who's had a difficult

2044
01:42:20,187 --> 01:42:24,347
Speaker 2: time of things recently, is unbeaten on twenty eight, Daryl

2045
01:42:24,387 --> 01:42:27,707
Speaker 2: Mitchell is there on twenty nine, and New Zealand in

2046
01:42:27,827 --> 01:42:31,667
Speaker 2: the chase for five hundred and eighty three ninety six

2047
01:42:31,787 --> 01:42:36,187
Speaker 2: for four. Tom Blundell, of course is from Wellington. In fact,

2048
01:42:36,427 --> 01:42:39,947
Speaker 2: he scored a century on Test debut at the Basin Reserve.

2049
01:42:40,427 --> 01:42:44,227
Speaker 2: He wasn't playing as a as a wicketkeeper, then he

2050
01:42:44,387 --> 01:42:48,147
Speaker 2: was in the team as a batter and famously he

2051
01:42:49,227 --> 01:42:52,107
Speaker 2: scored the runs at the Basin Reserve, which is overlooked

2052
01:42:52,147 --> 01:42:55,187
Speaker 2: by his former school, Wellington College. Of course, one hundred

2053
01:42:55,227 --> 01:42:58,667
Speaker 2: and seven in his very first innings at Test level

2054
01:42:58,747 --> 01:43:02,267
Speaker 2: against the West Indies back in December of twenty seventeen,

2055
01:43:02,427 --> 01:43:05,067
Speaker 2: So wouldn't it be a good time now to score

2056
01:43:05,507 --> 01:43:07,747
Speaker 2: another century of Tom Blundell. He's got a bit of

2057
01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:11,507
Speaker 2: work to do. But Mitchell and Blundell together are starting

2058
01:43:11,587 --> 01:43:15,227
Speaker 2: to chip away. I think any sense that they could

2059
01:43:15,227 --> 01:43:18,667
Speaker 2: score five hundred and eighty three is probably drawing a

2060
01:43:18,747 --> 01:43:21,507
Speaker 2: bit of a long bow. But in terms of soaking

2061
01:43:21,587 --> 01:43:25,107
Speaker 2: up time and starting to cause frustration amongst the English,

2062
01:43:25,147 --> 01:43:27,467
Speaker 2: then you know they can keep going. I don't want

2063
01:43:27,507 --> 01:43:30,027
Speaker 2: to jinx it. Then maybe we go into day four

2064
01:43:30,067 --> 01:43:32,747
Speaker 2: and even into day five if the pitch continues to

2065
01:43:32,827 --> 01:43:35,707
Speaker 2: flatten out to twenty seven. Anyway, that all lies ahead.

2066
01:43:35,707 --> 01:43:36,827
Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date and get you to

2067
01:43:36,947 --> 01:43:39,907
Speaker 2: the basin before three o'clock with Andrew Ortison. Next though,

2068
01:43:40,107 --> 01:43:43,227
Speaker 2: our coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith on the topic of why

2069
01:43:43,387 --> 01:43:46,867
Speaker 2: some sports teams have a great period of success and

2070
01:43:47,027 --> 01:43:49,187
Speaker 2: then it all suddenly comes to an end. He's with

2071
01:43:49,347 --> 01:43:50,747
Speaker 2: us right after this one.

2072
01:43:50,987 --> 01:43:57,067
Speaker 1: Crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes,

2073
01:43:57,307 --> 01:43:59,427
Speaker 1: New Zealand source Trusted home Builder.

2074
01:43:59,227 --> 01:44:02,907
Speaker 2: News talk to Baby Bang on two thirty on Weekends Sport.

2075
01:44:02,947 --> 01:44:05,547
Speaker 2: A regular feature on the show this year has been

2076
01:44:05,587 --> 01:44:09,467
Speaker 2: the Wisdom of coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith, who's joined us

2077
01:44:09,507 --> 01:44:13,347
Speaker 2: on various different matters around coaching at an elite or

2078
01:44:13,467 --> 01:44:16,347
Speaker 2: grassroots level or anywhere in between. It joins us for

2079
01:44:16,387 --> 01:44:18,827
Speaker 2: the final time this year. Wayne. I saw a post

2080
01:44:18,867 --> 01:44:21,907
Speaker 2: from you on social media this week that I wanted

2081
01:44:21,947 --> 01:44:25,307
Speaker 2: to drill down into and it was entitled why sporting

2082
01:44:25,427 --> 01:44:29,667
Speaker 2: teams fail after a period of success? And you said

2083
01:44:30,107 --> 01:44:33,547
Speaker 2: that seven words explain it, and those seven words are

2084
01:44:34,187 --> 01:44:37,547
Speaker 2: that's the way we do it here. So why are

2085
01:44:37,627 --> 01:44:40,987
Speaker 2: those words and that philosophy so dangerous?

2086
01:44:42,547 --> 01:44:47,187
Speaker 17: Well, I think what those words convey is a lot

2087
01:44:47,267 --> 01:44:48,387
Speaker 17: of different things, Patty.

2088
01:44:48,867 --> 01:44:52,387
Speaker 28: It's saying our way is the only way, our way

2089
01:44:52,667 --> 01:44:55,707
Speaker 28: is the best way, our way is the right way.

2090
01:44:56,307 --> 01:44:58,747
Speaker 28: And if if you've been around sport for a while,

2091
01:44:58,947 --> 01:45:02,867
Speaker 28: you know that that's true. But for a very very

2092
01:45:03,467 --> 01:45:04,467
Speaker 28: short moment of time.

2093
01:45:04,547 --> 01:45:07,667
Speaker 17: And look, I remember working with coach of an Olympic gold.

2094
01:45:07,587 --> 01:45:10,787
Speaker 28: Medalist in trek and field years ago and he said,

2095
01:45:11,307 --> 01:45:13,867
Speaker 28: I said, how excited Philly excited about it? And he

2096
01:45:13,907 --> 01:45:17,427
Speaker 28: said I am, But I'm just thinking about all the

2097
01:45:17,547 --> 01:45:21,707
Speaker 28: coaches and our competitors around the world who are looking.

2098
01:45:21,547 --> 01:45:23,547
Speaker 2: And going, how do we beat her?

2099
01:45:24,147 --> 01:45:27,067
Speaker 28: And it was this reality that even though at that

2100
01:45:27,227 --> 01:45:29,667
Speaker 28: moment she was the Olympic gold medalist and the best

2101
01:45:29,707 --> 01:45:33,067
Speaker 28: of the best, the reality is everybody has now seen.

2102
01:45:32,907 --> 01:45:36,107
Speaker 17: That and gone, ah, that's how you've done it. I'm

2103
01:45:36,147 --> 01:45:37,947
Speaker 17: going to do it better. I'm going to learn from

2104
01:45:37,987 --> 01:45:39,227
Speaker 17: you and improve.

2105
01:45:39,507 --> 01:45:41,867
Speaker 28: Whereas if you say, oh, that's the way we do

2106
01:45:42,027 --> 01:45:46,907
Speaker 28: it here, your brain, your mind, your imagination, creativity, innovation

2107
01:45:47,467 --> 01:45:51,747
Speaker 28: stops because you're convinced that you've got it and forever

2108
01:45:51,907 --> 01:45:52,947
Speaker 28: shall it be the case?

2109
01:45:53,067 --> 01:45:54,067
Speaker 17: And it's just not right.

2110
01:45:54,827 --> 01:45:57,547
Speaker 2: Another saying you hear a lot is not just in sport.

2111
01:45:57,947 --> 01:46:01,147
Speaker 2: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Is their merit

2112
01:46:01,467 --> 01:46:03,867
Speaker 2: to that? If what you're doing is getting you success,

2113
01:46:04,347 --> 01:46:07,267
Speaker 2: then is their merit in not changing it too much?

2114
01:46:08,507 --> 01:46:08,667
Speaker 24: Well?

2115
01:46:08,747 --> 01:46:10,307
Speaker 17: Look, I always go back.

2116
01:46:10,227 --> 01:46:13,107
Speaker 28: To who are the brands in our life that have

2117
01:46:13,227 --> 01:46:16,187
Speaker 28: been sustainably successful for a long long time?

2118
01:46:16,347 --> 01:46:18,747
Speaker 17: So you look at something like Apple, or you look

2119
01:46:18,867 --> 01:46:20,627
Speaker 17: at BMW, or you.

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Speaker 28: Look at the brands that have grown have been sustainably

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01:46:23,467 --> 01:46:26,227
Speaker 28: successful over a long long period of time. Now we

2122
01:46:26,467 --> 01:46:28,907
Speaker 28: know at the moment if you go into an Apple shop,

2123
01:46:29,067 --> 01:46:32,867
Speaker 28: which to me is just in insanely full on place

2124
01:46:32,907 --> 01:46:35,067
Speaker 28: where you're getting exposed all sorts of ideas which you

2125
01:46:35,147 --> 01:46:37,147
Speaker 28: go into an Apple shop and we're not sponsored by Apple.

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Speaker 17: By the way, are we find it? No?

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Speaker 18: Not, But.

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Speaker 28: You know, we go into a shop at Apple Shop,

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Speaker 28: and they're going to tell you that this model of phone,

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01:46:48,507 --> 01:46:51,827
Speaker 28: this model of tablet, this model of technology is the

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01:46:51,987 --> 01:46:54,867
Speaker 28: best and it can't get any better, and this is

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01:46:54,947 --> 01:46:58,067
Speaker 28: the latest in technology and the greatest thing that's ever happened.

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01:46:58,627 --> 01:47:04,307
Speaker 28: Yet we know that they're already made, designed and built

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01:47:04,627 --> 01:47:07,667
Speaker 28: next year's one, And we know that they've built and designed,

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01:47:07,707 --> 01:47:10,547
Speaker 28: pretty much finished the one for twenty twenty six, and

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01:47:10,627 --> 01:47:15,067
Speaker 28: they've probably got the twenty thirty model on the planning

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01:47:15,107 --> 01:47:17,027
Speaker 28: platform and ready to go as well, and each one

2138
01:47:17,067 --> 01:47:19,507
Speaker 28: of those will be better. So we know that the

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Speaker 28: brands in our broader life that have been sustainably successful

2140
01:47:24,627 --> 01:47:28,747
Speaker 28: are constantly reinventing. Now, having said that, if we stick

2141
01:47:28,827 --> 01:47:32,947
Speaker 28: with that Apple iialogy, that they don't change the size

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01:47:33,067 --> 01:47:38,187
Speaker 28: of the phone much, and they don't change the shape

2143
01:47:38,227 --> 01:47:38,867
Speaker 28: of the phone much.

2144
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Speaker 17: They keep the things that they know work.

2145
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Speaker 28: But then they go, but where can we find an

2146
01:47:45,507 --> 01:47:48,787
Speaker 28: edge so fast, a process, that raw bigger process, that

2147
01:47:48,947 --> 01:47:52,027
Speaker 28: raw better camera, so they look at the things that

2148
01:47:52,187 --> 01:47:54,707
Speaker 28: they know work and then they go, yeah, but we

2149
01:47:54,787 --> 01:47:58,947
Speaker 28: can still be better that continuous improvement mindset. The teams

2150
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Speaker 28: that get that sustained success, the teams and the organizations

2151
01:48:03,627 --> 01:48:06,147
Speaker 28: who don't, who believe in that's the way we do it,

2152
01:48:07,187 --> 01:48:10,867
Speaker 28: their success is fleeting, are quite often almost accidental or lucky.

2153
01:48:11,947 --> 01:48:15,027
Speaker 2: Do you find that that teams and coaches who have

2154
01:48:15,147 --> 01:48:18,747
Speaker 2: been successful are more likely to be the ones who

2155
01:48:18,827 --> 01:48:22,227
Speaker 2: seek to change things up to seek that improvement or

2156
01:48:22,827 --> 01:48:25,387
Speaker 2: because you know, I would imagine there would be a

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01:48:25,427 --> 01:48:28,467
Speaker 2: certain degree of resistance among a playing group who say

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Speaker 2: to their coach, Look, you've been telling us what to do.

2159
01:48:30,227 --> 01:48:32,827
Speaker 2: We've done that, we're winning games. Now you're telling us

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01:48:32,867 --> 01:48:35,747
Speaker 2: to do another thing or a slightly different thing. Is

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01:48:35,827 --> 01:48:39,827
Speaker 2: there resistance in any way among players in situations like this?

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01:48:41,787 --> 01:48:44,587
Speaker 17: There can be, And it's because.

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Speaker 28: The way that you talk to the playgroup. If you say,

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Speaker 28: the playgroup, it's all about the grand final. We have

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Speaker 28: to win the Grand Final. We're going to be at

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01:48:51,747 --> 01:48:56,867
Speaker 28: our best, and everything's based around the achievement of success

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01:48:56,987 --> 01:49:00,507
Speaker 28: at a singular point in time, where you've spent all

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Speaker 28: that time convincing them that their model their system, their structure,

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01:49:04,347 --> 01:49:07,187
Speaker 28: their play is the best way and wherever shall it

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Speaker 28: be the case, then for them come back the next

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Speaker 28: year and say, hey, guys, guess what we're going to

2172
01:49:11,707 --> 01:49:12,147
Speaker 28: change it all.

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01:49:12,627 --> 01:49:15,347
Speaker 17: That can be really confronting. If you listen to the

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Speaker 17: words of the really.

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01:49:17,187 --> 01:49:19,227
Speaker 28: Switched on coaches, the ones that have been around for

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01:49:19,227 --> 01:49:21,987
Speaker 28: a while, they talk about things like it's a journey.

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Speaker 28: Every moment is an opportunity for us to learn. We're

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01:49:25,267 --> 01:49:28,787
Speaker 28: continuing to learn and progress and improve as a player group.

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Speaker 28: And you even heard it with the great the Crusaders teams,

2180
01:49:32,307 --> 01:49:37,707
Speaker 28: with the Penrith Panthers, they very rarely talk about we're

2181
01:49:37,707 --> 01:49:40,267
Speaker 28: gonna get to the Grand Final and win it and others.

2182
01:49:40,547 --> 01:49:42,987
Speaker 28: It's not a those finite terms. It's all about every

2183
01:49:43,067 --> 01:49:46,507
Speaker 28: game we've learned, we've improved as a group. We're getting better.

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Speaker 28: I don't think we've realized our potential yet. If you've

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01:49:49,187 --> 01:49:51,427
Speaker 28: been around for a while, you tend not to speak

2186
01:49:51,467 --> 01:49:54,507
Speaker 28: in absolutes or finalities. You tend to talk in the

2187
01:49:54,627 --> 01:49:59,667
Speaker 28: terms of continuous improvement, ongoing learning, being the best I

2188
01:49:59,787 --> 01:50:02,227
Speaker 28: can be, but I can always get better. You tend

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01:50:02,307 --> 01:50:05,547
Speaker 28: to stick to those terms. If you've been around for

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Speaker 28: a while.

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01:50:06,347 --> 01:50:10,027
Speaker 17: If you're just selling them once that win and forget it,

2192
01:50:10,307 --> 01:50:14,827
Speaker 17: then you're almost painting what the future is going to

2193
01:50:14,867 --> 01:50:15,147
Speaker 17: look like.

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Speaker 2: There are some coaches who are tremendously successful over a

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Speaker 2: sustained period of time, and then they start to be

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01:50:21,827 --> 01:50:24,387
Speaker 2: less successful and people start to talk a little bit

2197
01:50:24,427 --> 01:50:27,987
Speaker 2: about those coaches. The game has moved on. He's yesterday's man.

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01:50:28,707 --> 01:50:31,827
Speaker 2: You know, the game has passed him by. Now are

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01:50:31,907 --> 01:50:35,027
Speaker 2: there some coaches who just are either unable or unwilling

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Speaker 2: to make the change when it's needed.

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Speaker 28: It's a wonderful question by you, as you know, I

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01:50:42,667 --> 01:50:44,747
Speaker 28: love swimming, and I've been in it for a long

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01:50:44,907 --> 01:50:51,627
Speaker 28: long time. And the coaches involved, they're wonderful. They getting

2204
01:50:51,707 --> 01:50:53,987
Speaker 28: up early, They're given their life to it. You're going

2205
01:50:54,027 --> 01:50:56,547
Speaker 28: to add the same people like gymnastics coaches and rowing

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01:50:56,667 --> 01:50:59,427
Speaker 28: coaches and distance running coaches, and you know, there's a

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01:50:59,467 --> 01:51:02,027
Speaker 28: lot of coaches getting up early and given everything they've

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01:51:02,067 --> 01:51:06,147
Speaker 28: got to the sport. However, when I go around the world,

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Speaker 28: the default model of delivering something like swimming, this coach

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01:51:11,387 --> 01:51:14,107
Speaker 28: is standing at at the pearl yelling numbers to kids. Now,

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01:51:14,227 --> 01:51:17,107
Speaker 28: that was a reasonably successful model for a large period

2212
01:51:17,147 --> 01:51:20,787
Speaker 28: of time. But we're dealing with kids now who are TikTokers.

2213
01:51:20,987 --> 01:51:24,747
Speaker 28: They want short pieces of information, They want to be engaged,

2214
01:51:24,787 --> 01:51:26,827
Speaker 28: they want to be listened to, they want to work

2215
01:51:26,947 --> 01:51:28,147
Speaker 28: with you, they.

2216
01:51:28,107 --> 01:51:29,747
Speaker 17: Want to feel part of the process.

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01:51:30,347 --> 01:51:33,907
Speaker 28: And I say to the coaches, look, even though your

2218
01:51:34,027 --> 01:51:36,147
Speaker 28: model may have worked, and you may have even put

2219
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Speaker 28: someone on an Olympic team or even won a medal,

2220
01:51:38,707 --> 01:51:42,667
Speaker 28: we're dealing with a society that's evolved so quickly.

2221
01:51:42,867 --> 01:51:46,347
Speaker 17: The learning has become so different. The way the kids

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01:51:46,467 --> 01:51:49,027
Speaker 17: engage with learning and want to be engaged with their

2223
01:51:49,107 --> 01:51:52,427
Speaker 17: teachers and their parents and their peers has changed. So

2224
01:51:52,867 --> 01:51:55,627
Speaker 17: if you're a smart coach, you're staying true to the

2225
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Speaker 17: things that you believe.

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Speaker 28: Hard work, dedication, commitment, passion, all those things, but you're

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01:52:01,787 --> 01:52:05,667
Speaker 28: shaping it and remodeling it and delivering it and packaging

2228
01:52:05,707 --> 01:52:08,667
Speaker 28: it in a way it's appropriate for the generations that

2229
01:52:08,747 --> 01:52:14,307
Speaker 28: we're dealing with now. The common thing I hear from

2230
01:52:14,987 --> 01:52:18,027
Speaker 28: coaches is, oh, there's something wrong with the kids, and

2231
01:52:18,147 --> 01:52:20,187
Speaker 28: the kids are not doing it the way that we

2232
01:52:20,347 --> 01:52:22,507
Speaker 28: used to do it, and the kids have got it wrong.

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Speaker 17: It's their parents that have got so many things on

2234
01:52:25,427 --> 01:52:26,627
Speaker 17: and we've got a soft society.

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01:52:26,947 --> 01:52:29,907
Speaker 28: No no, no, no, no, you're yelling into a fan

2236
01:52:30,067 --> 01:52:34,627
Speaker 28: in a breeze. You've got to say, well, I can't

2237
01:52:34,787 --> 01:52:37,627
Speaker 28: change the children of the world. I can't change parenting

2238
01:52:37,707 --> 01:52:41,227
Speaker 28: in New Zealand. I can't change the way people engage

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01:52:41,267 --> 01:52:46,827
Speaker 28: with technology. I can only change myself and I as

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Speaker 28: a coach. I'm not going to change my belief in

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01:52:48,707 --> 01:52:51,747
Speaker 28: hard work and commitment, dedication. But I'm going to change

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01:52:51,787 --> 01:52:55,227
Speaker 28: the things that will allow me to remain successful, which

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01:52:55,387 --> 01:52:59,387
Speaker 28: is engaging with kids, engaging in athletes in a way

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01:52:59,587 --> 01:53:01,187
Speaker 28: that they want to be engaged with.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 17: And look, I know this coach is listening at the moment,

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01:53:04,387 --> 01:53:06,187
Speaker 17: piny going no, he doesn't get it.

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01:53:06,347 --> 01:53:08,387
Speaker 28: You know that's not like that for tennis or rowing

2249
01:53:08,547 --> 01:53:12,187
Speaker 28: or I promise you guys, I really do get this.

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Speaker 28: This is what I live day to day, and my

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01:53:14,907 --> 01:53:17,787
Speaker 28: will stay true to the things that you know work.

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01:53:18,467 --> 01:53:22,027
Speaker 28: But be smart enough and intelligent enough to tweak and

2253
01:53:22,187 --> 01:53:26,067
Speaker 28: change and improve and enhance the things that will allow you.

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Speaker 17: To sustain your success.

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Speaker 28: But I would even think you'd be able to bellow

2256
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Speaker 28: me and been are two great examples in NRL. I

2257
01:53:33,387 --> 01:53:35,787
Speaker 28: guarantee you there's things that they do that haven't changed

2258
01:53:35,787 --> 01:53:40,427
Speaker 28: since the nineteen seventies, guarantee. But I also guarantee they've

2259
01:53:40,507 --> 01:53:45,707
Speaker 28: made five ten percent change every year since of the

2260
01:53:45,867 --> 01:53:48,787
Speaker 28: things that they know will allow them to sustain success.

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01:53:48,987 --> 01:53:51,187
Speaker 28: So I guarantee when Bennett went into his great line,

2262
01:53:51,227 --> 01:53:54,147
Speaker 28: Bennett says, which is what you take into coaching is

2263
01:53:54,187 --> 01:53:58,107
Speaker 28: what you take out. So I'm guarantee he would believe

2264
01:53:58,187 --> 01:54:02,707
Speaker 28: in those core values what's important. His coaching philosophies would

2265
01:54:02,787 --> 01:54:05,507
Speaker 28: not have changed, but he would have changed the things

2266
01:54:05,547 --> 01:54:08,187
Speaker 28: that would have allowed him to continue to be successful.

2267
01:54:08,667 --> 01:54:12,307
Speaker 28: And that's the real art of coaching or success in anything.

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Speaker 2: Incredible wisdom and brilliant advice from you as always, Wayne,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for today and for all your

2270
01:54:18,147 --> 01:54:21,147
Speaker 2: contributions to Weekend Sport across the year. I hope you

2271
01:54:21,187 --> 01:54:23,707
Speaker 2: have a lovely, lovely break over the next little while,

2272
01:54:23,747 --> 01:54:26,387
Speaker 2: and well I hope that we can chat again when

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01:54:26,427 --> 01:54:27,867
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five rolls around.

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Speaker 25: Mate.

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01:54:29,507 --> 01:54:31,867
Speaker 28: The greatest Christmas present I could one for all would

2276
01:54:31,867 --> 01:54:32,427
Speaker 28: get more.

2277
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Speaker 5: Time with you next year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's quite a low bar, Wayne, but we'll

2279
01:54:38,467 --> 01:54:41,027
Speaker 2: see if we can make it, make it happen. Thanks again.

2280
01:54:41,067 --> 01:54:43,947
Speaker 2: My friend Wayne Goldsmith part of Weekend Sport across the

2281
01:54:44,027 --> 01:54:46,387
Speaker 2: year and does set to be again next year. You

2282
01:54:46,467 --> 01:54:49,027
Speaker 2: can find out more about Wayne on his website WG

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01:54:49,227 --> 01:54:52,867
Speaker 2: Coaching dot Com. Nineteen to three Get You Back to

2284
01:54:52,907 --> 01:54:54,987
Speaker 2: the Basin in a moment one O five for four.

2285
01:54:55,507 --> 01:54:59,027
Speaker 2: Darryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell are getting quite close to

2286
01:54:59,107 --> 01:55:01,667
Speaker 2: a fifty partnership here. I know it's just a small victory,

2287
01:55:01,707 --> 01:55:03,907
Speaker 2: but we'll take anything we can get in this test series.

2288
01:55:04,707 --> 01:55:09,067
Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison from a ba usty, windy, overcast based in reserve.

2289
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Speaker 2: When we come back, you be the TMO.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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01:55:26,347 --> 01:55:28,947
Speaker 2: An hour gone in the second session on day three

2295
01:55:29,187 --> 01:55:32,467
Speaker 2: at the Basin Reserve, they're enjoying a drink. Not Andrew Orderson,

2296
01:55:32,547 --> 01:55:36,387
Speaker 2: though he's having a chat to us. Darryl Mitchell, Tom

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01:55:36,467 --> 01:55:40,187
Speaker 2: blunder lay a fairly solid partnership being put together.

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Speaker 16: Hair orders look, yes, I don't want to sen fight

2299
01:55:43,227 --> 01:55:45,907
Speaker 16: here for your pioneer. But this is indeed looking solid.

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01:55:45,947 --> 01:55:49,267
Speaker 16: I mean we're looking talking about the biggest part certainly

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01:55:49,307 --> 01:55:52,347
Speaker 16: of the Test for New Zealand so far forty seven

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01:55:52,467 --> 01:55:55,787
Speaker 16: runs Mitchell thirty two, Blundle thirty five and sort of

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01:55:55,827 --> 01:56:00,067
Speaker 16: bringing some minds rememiniscing about that twenty twenty two trip

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01:56:00,147 --> 01:56:02,107
Speaker 16: to England where they spent so much time at the

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01:56:02,187 --> 01:56:04,747
Speaker 16: crease Intend one hundred and six or four so and

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01:56:04,867 --> 01:56:07,307
Speaker 16: basically with this four your strike us at exactly the

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01:56:07,387 --> 01:56:09,987
Speaker 16: midway point of the Test match. So you think about

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01:56:10,027 --> 01:56:12,707
Speaker 16: how far it's advanced already. Having seen that too, we

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01:56:12,827 --> 01:56:15,227
Speaker 16: talked about some rain being around earlier Pinty that does

2310
01:56:15,307 --> 01:56:18,147
Speaker 16: seem to have dissipated in the wind has blowing that

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01:56:18,267 --> 01:56:21,707
Speaker 16: away in the northwest, so it's almayst. I think it's

2312
01:56:21,707 --> 01:56:23,907
Speaker 16: good for Blunder Emitsal to just keep the cagence going,

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01:56:24,267 --> 01:56:25,987
Speaker 16: keep the temper and be batting out that you don't

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01:56:25,987 --> 01:56:27,987
Speaker 16: want to have to give your eye and again come

2315
01:56:28,027 --> 01:56:30,467
Speaker 16: off the field and come back into it, especially against

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01:56:30,507 --> 01:56:34,427
Speaker 16: the accuracy of the English bowling, sof up the pace

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01:56:34,507 --> 01:56:37,147
Speaker 16: in particular, I think they have probably got a little

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01:56:37,147 --> 01:56:39,667
Speaker 16: bit settled with the bowling and sharp bus Yere they've

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01:56:39,667 --> 01:56:42,107
Speaker 16: been able to get into a lithly exous spin and

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01:56:42,587 --> 01:56:44,347
Speaker 16: if you're being Stokes before, we think we're bringing the

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01:56:44,387 --> 01:56:47,027
Speaker 16: pace back where you can as soon as possible, but

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01:56:47,187 --> 01:56:50,587
Speaker 16: certainly promising from New Zealand at least for the fifth

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01:56:50,627 --> 01:56:51,227
Speaker 16: bigot stand.

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Speaker 2: They often say that when there's a big total that

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01:56:53,467 --> 01:56:56,067
Speaker 2: you're chasing, even one that seems so far away to

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01:56:56,387 --> 01:56:59,347
Speaker 2: even be conceivable, that you've got to at least try

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01:56:59,387 --> 01:57:01,907
Speaker 2: to keep the score taking over, not just try to survive.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're seeing from these two?

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Speaker 16: That's exactly what you're seeing, And I think we'll put

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Speaker 16: it this way. Blundle in particular had a lead off early,

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Speaker 16: had a flash of one outside off stump and went

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Speaker 16: through the hands of Jacob Bethel and the slips off

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Speaker 16: Bright and cart. He went to the boundary and Ball

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Speaker 16: immediately asked what he just there's no respite. He just

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Speaker 16: hooked cast for six towards the scoreboard at the basin,

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Speaker 16: went over the fence and that really gave him some confidence.

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Speaker 16: I think he had ten off four balls at that

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Speaker 16: point and has now moved on to thirty five. Of course,

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Speaker 16: he's been in just a terrible rut with his form

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Speaker 16: of late blundle. But now he looks like and I

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Speaker 16: don't cheap bait here, as he's prepared to take his

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Speaker 16: stance again. But he is on thirty five off forty

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Speaker 16: nine balls, Mitchell thirty two off sixty eight. But Mitchell

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Speaker 16: is on strike, so that is relief fumbly And if

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Speaker 16: he's flashed one towards point but it's fielded, but looks

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Speaker 16: like he maybe brooke out there. Maybe it's Zach Cruley intact.

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Speaker 2: So what do you predict now for England in the

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Speaker 2: next hour of the session, the next session after this one.

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Speaker 2: They've got plenty of time orders, they don't really have

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Speaker 2: to force the pace of this. What do you predict

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Speaker 2: that their strategy will be?

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Speaker 18: Well?

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Speaker 16: Likewise, I look about New Zealand batting with positive intent.

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Speaker 16: I thinks to do the same captaining England here and

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Speaker 16: keep the attacking fields. They've got runs on the board

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Speaker 16: and just keep these bowlers rotating. I guess with the

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Speaker 16: cars has been in terrific form. We've seen Atkinson with

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Speaker 16: his hat trick in the first thing, so he's cockahoop

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Speaker 16: and in fact, goodness made, he's a wicket right now

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Speaker 16: Darrel Mitchell is dismissed for thirty threes or sixty eyeballs.

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Speaker 16: So there you go straight up and see Atkinson's guidance

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Speaker 16: one hundred and six now and five in New Zealand

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Speaker 16: and Mitchell trudging his way off. So disappointment for Darryl Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Oh you've got us, You've got us a wicket.

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Speaker 16: Orders there you go, he's edge that behind the ollipape.

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Speaker 16: So the departure of Daryl Mitchell has leaves from Lovell there.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, I was looking promising, but the egg I've

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Speaker 16: walked a wicket for you outside of the box. At

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Speaker 16: the moment, fight well run partnership is over.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can be responsible entirely for it, allders,

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Speaker 2: but certainly it will be noted in your next performance review.

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Speaker 16: Look, I think while my KPI you see, they will

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Speaker 16: be somewhat differently.

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Speaker 2: Now they will. I think while Mitchell and Blunder were together,

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Speaker 2: yeah we're like a minute ago, we were talking in

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Speaker 2: quite positive to is there a possibility now that there

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Speaker 2: might not be a day for Oh.

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Speaker 16: For sure, I think that there's every chance of that.

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Speaker 16: But that New Zealand has just have the knuckles down

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Speaker 16: here if they can seeing Glen Phillip's coming to the

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Speaker 16: wicket now at one hundred and six and five. But

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Speaker 16: anyone just well they're in the pomp, really, they are

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Speaker 16: just the confidence side in New Zealand largely left me

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Speaker 16: in conference a partform that last partnership, and I think too,

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Speaker 16: one that really struck me is the crucial in the

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Speaker 16: biggest scheme of things. Russian Avenger just before lunch, just

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Speaker 16: splashing outside of getting an edge, and he was dismissed

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Speaker 16: for six but yes, so much promise the revenge.

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Speaker 7: But just on that occasion.

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Speaker 16: He could have knuckled it out maybe to lunch, but

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Speaker 16: didn't do so. In New Zealand were another look at down.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, it's disapporinting in many respects from that New

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Speaker 16: Zealand batting card one hundred and twenty five in the

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Speaker 16: first and then one hundred and six to five in

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Speaker 16: the second.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty bleak piney indeed, right just before you go.

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Speaker 2: And this might be a conversation for once the Test

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Speaker 2: is over. But let's just say for arguments sake that

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Speaker 2: England do go on to win this Test. It's too

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Speaker 2: nil going to Hamilton what do you predict from a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand point of view in terms of selection for

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Speaker 2: the third Test.

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Speaker 16: Well, for Samas, I've got to get Young and they

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Speaker 16: don't they It just seems ridiculous if you've got this

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Speaker 16: player of the series from the India, the historic victory

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Speaker 16: in India which is just such an anomaly and the

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Speaker 16: biggest scheme of things with the three nil there. But Young,

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Speaker 16: I thin he's the player of the series. He's got

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Speaker 16: to come into this eleven in some capacity, probably for

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Speaker 16: the Devon Conway. Albeit I don't know that Young is

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Speaker 16: an opener. I mean he averages twenty two as an

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Speaker 16: opener as opposed to forty three elsewhere in the order.

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Speaker 16: I think Tomboy is probably the one going to most

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Speaker 16: out of former at the moment, and that is a

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Speaker 16: quite a competition. But then of course you look at

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Speaker 16: the bowling and whether or not they decide to bring

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Speaker 16: in the extra spin option of Mitchell, and then you

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Speaker 16: have a real question mark over whether he dropped in

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Speaker 16: the South you ahead of his what it meant to

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Speaker 16: be his final Test match and it's a benedectory to

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Speaker 16: it in this series. And then what would be a

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Speaker 16: home ground end ground at Hamilton.

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Speaker 11: That's a big call in itself.

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Speaker 16: Or do you perhaps take out Nathan Smith who's look

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Speaker 16: promising at times with the boar in particular and in

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Speaker 16: the field. Do you just like for like as a

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Speaker 16: bowling pace around her for a bowling spin all around it,

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Speaker 16: or do you just leave the status crome in terms

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Speaker 16: of that bowling and decide that it's going to be

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Speaker 16: the Hamilton deck is not going to spin. I mean,

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Speaker 16: at this stage of the season there's been two games

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Speaker 16: in Plank at Shildon has been two wickets taken to spin,

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Speaker 16: so there's not a strong argument in that regard at

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Speaker 16: this point. But there's got to be some form of change,

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Speaker 16: you would think given the the can fleet performance by

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Speaker 16: England these first Tests and convincing victories, if they are

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Speaker 16: able to take out the second Test against easily looking

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Speaker 16: at a pretty strong position at the.

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Speaker 5: Moment for that way.

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Speaker 2: And thanks auders, appreciate your work across the weekend. We'll

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Speaker 2: chat to your next weekend on Weekend Sport from Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison from the Basin Reserve, New Zealand one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten for five. Now as the ball goes to

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Speaker 2: the boundary off the bat of Glenn Phillips, but five

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three is so far away as to

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Speaker 2: be almost insignificant. Really. The next order of business for

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders to try and make this test go into

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Speaker 2: a fourth day, and there's still quite a bit of

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Speaker 2: work to do for that to even happen. Unfortunately, eight

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Speaker 2: away from three News Talks.

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Speaker 1: EDB analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting

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Speaker 2: Five to three and that is us on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Tim Beveridge takes over after three o'clock for the weekend

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Speaker 2: Collective Sunday edition. Weekend Sport returns next weekend obviously between

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Speaker 2: Talk tomorrow night as well as we I guess unpack

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Speaker 2: what's happening in this cricket. Let's hope there is a

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Speaker 2: day for Tom Blundell wants to stay out there for

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Speaker 2: a bit. He's just brought up two thousand test runs.

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Speaker 2: Tom Blundell with a big six onto the bank to

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Speaker 2: move to forty six. So yeah, a nice welcome return

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Speaker 2: to form for Tom Blundell in this particular innings anyway,

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