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Speaker 2: Call of good afternoon, Welcome into Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 2: Talks EDB. The Sunday edition for September seven, Happy Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine, Show producer Anny McDonald. We're here talking

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Speaker 2: sport until three. That was a Test match.

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Speaker 3: Back with Britain here mc meensy and to the San

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Speaker 3: and the.

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Speaker 4: All Black defend the Fortress twenty four to seventeen and

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 3: Time tess match between.

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Speaker 2: These two nations absolutely twenty four to seventeen at the

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Speaker 2: Garden of Eden last night. The unbeaten run n extends

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Speaker 2: to fifty one test matches for the All Blacks. Assistant

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Speaker 2: coach Tamothy Ellison standing by the chat former All Black

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Speaker 2: Front Obotica with us after one o'clock. In between your thoughts,

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Speaker 2: I know you'll have plenty lines open immediately and right

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Speaker 2: across the afternoon to talk about the All Blacks South

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Speaker 2: Africa Test match. What you saw, what you liked? What

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Speaker 2: Farrow Ja Brow and what you're thinking might play out

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Speaker 2: over the next seven days ahead of Test two down

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Speaker 2: in Wellington, Ala matters around today. The Warriors know that

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Speaker 2: they will face the Panthers next weekend in an elimination

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Speaker 2: final at go Media Stadium. We don't yet have clarification

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Speaker 2: around which day or what time, but we know it's

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Speaker 2: the Panthers. How do we feel about that? Tough, tough game?

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Speaker 2: Willy poaching on that after two this afternoon, your thoughts

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Speaker 2: as well. The NFL season American football underway, a couple

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Speaker 2: of games already, big raft of matches tomorrow. Bill Barnwell

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Speaker 2: out of ESPA to preview the season. James Mcony and

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Speaker 2: his regular slot, and a whole heap of live sport

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Speaker 2: while we're on the air today, The Chatham Cup Final

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Speaker 2: Auckland United Wellington Olympic kicking off at Albany one o'clock

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. The Warriors women up against the second place

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Speaker 2: Broncos in Hamilton. They came underway at two walkiep Eyes

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Speaker 2: on that Bunnings MPC Round six Antion Taranaki against Bay

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Speaker 2: of plenty and New Plymouth also at five past two,

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Speaker 2: and the Parah Palmer Cup Tasman North Harbor at the

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Speaker 2: same time five past two in Blenham. We would love

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

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Speaker 1: weekends fort with Jason Vine the call eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty eighty News Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB Nadawa takes it and slide down the turf gets up,

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Speaker 3: goes again, eybody Nadama for dummy, the right way for

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Speaker 3: a time, buddy Nadaway seconds of o'clock and eat a butt.

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Speaker 2: All Blacks couldn't have wanted for a better start, could they?

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Speaker 2: With them on another were scoring a try early well Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after that fourteen nil they were up, but South

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Speaker 2: Africa came back as they always do. All Blacks twenty

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Speaker 2: four South Africa seventeen. All Black's assistant coach Tamothy Ellison

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Speaker 2: is with US Tarmody, congratulations on the win. That's why

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Speaker 2: I think they call them test matches because they do

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Speaker 2: test every member of both sides. What stands out first

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Speaker 2: of all in general terms when you think back to

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Speaker 2: the performance the all Black spot on last night, our.

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Speaker 6: Physical, super physical from the start, and yeah, it didn't

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Speaker 2: What were you proudest of as a coaching group?

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Speaker 6: I think the leaders just the way they lit on

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Speaker 7: To start with.

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Speaker 2: At twenty four seventeen ahead Ardie Savie wants to turnover

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Speaker 6: We back our defense and the efforts the boys that

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Speaker 6: So yeah, definitely made it an eighty minute performance for

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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, how much did the rain, which wasn't really forecast,

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Speaker 2: Over sixty kicks in play last night across the two teams,

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Speaker 2: many of them box kicks. A lot of chat about

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Speaker 2: the aerial battle. How do you evaluate how the All

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the intent was really good. You know,

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Speaker 2: How big a part of your brief as a coach

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Speaker 6: It's a handover, you know, from the attacking side. Of

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Speaker 2: What are the key what are the really important parts

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Speaker 2: we all knew that you know the bombs were coming,

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Speaker 2: are you obviously dead? How do you best strategize to

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Speaker 6: I think some of that skill set getting high in

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Speaker 6: I thought we were really good deal with the unten.

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Speaker 2: How much is the changing rules and that you know

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think that's made the air any safer

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Speaker 2: Artie Savia became the latest All Blacks Test centurion last night.

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Speaker 2: They were celebrated on the field after the game. How

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Speaker 6: Artie had his fun out here yesterday. You know, his

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Speaker 6: So I think, you know, we all just sit back

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the young Ardie Savia who you played

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Speaker 6: My memories of Artie was his brother, to start with,

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Speaker 2: Scott Robinson said during the week he is a man

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Speaker 2: quality we can all see in Ardie Savia. How deep though,

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Speaker 6: It's messis it's action based on the field. It's obvious

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Speaker 6: management players to see influence he has. And I think

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Speaker 6: everyone in this group would do anything for odds and

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Speaker 6: we're just special that we could get over the line

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Speaker 6: for him.

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Speaker 8: Last night.

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Speaker 2: At the other end of the scale, you had a

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Speaker 2: has I think come quicker than he could have possibly imagined.

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Speaker 2: How has he conducted himself across the week?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think KP is really consistent in his habits

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Speaker 6: you don't hear a lot out of him, but he's

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Speaker 6: it's just the way he's always gone about his business.

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Speaker 6: So replica to get out of there last night.

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Speaker 2: No yellow cards last night? Was discipline a specific focus

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Speaker 2: given the yellow cards you've been handed in the last

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Speaker 6: It always is, you know, we're trying to be as

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Speaker 6: safe as we can, but aggressive as we can as well.

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Speaker 6: If you're on the sideline, you see the impact of

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Speaker 6: the collisions and sometimes you know, people get them get

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Speaker 6: So it's always a focus. We're always trying to upskill

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Speaker 6: and be better in the collisions, you know, a week

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Speaker 2: Did you feel extra pressure ahead of this game, given

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Speaker 2: the enormity of the occasion, the loss in Argentina, the

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Speaker 2: Eden Park record to protect. Was there an extra edge

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Speaker 6: I think there was always going to be an extra

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Speaker 6: you know, conciding without these hundred there was also an

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Speaker 6: if you really clear around your process, you know, the

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Speaker 6: morning and it's the same process for me around how

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Speaker 6: do I make them better? So yeah, there was edge.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure there was unnecessary pressure.

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Speaker 2: And in terms of the players themselves, is there any

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Speaker 2: game arrives? If you know what I mean? Again, so

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Speaker 2: much hype. You know, it's a long week and many ways.

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Speaker 2: Is there any strategy needed in that regard?

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Speaker 9: I think so lot.

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Speaker 6: We're very blessed with mc gill here. It's been here

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Speaker 10: Knee, Yeah, we those Barrett boys.

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Speaker 2: A pleasure. Look, I don't know about you. On a

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Speaker 11: Hey, the game.

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Speaker 10: So the hias, Now, as I understand it, when you

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Speaker 2: It's here. And Elliott Smith, our lead commentator last night,

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Speaker 12: Well, well after the you know we're talking when they

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Speaker 12: But two weeks is a big difference in sport, mate Tony.

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Speaker 2: a crucial moment of the game. And I thought Finlay Christy,

434
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Speaker 2: given the fact that really he he is the fourth

435
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Speaker 2: choice half back in the minds of the All Blacks

436
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Speaker 2: coaches because they picked Roy Gard and hop them ahead

437
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Speaker 2: of him. I thought the fact that he fronted up

438
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Speaker 2: there last night, he showed the value of experience. For me,

439
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Speaker 2: wasn't phased by it. He's played big games before. Goodness me.

440
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Speaker 2: He played in the last Rugby World Cup final off

441
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Speaker 2: the bench. He had a very good game and I

442
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Speaker 2: was rapped to see a new All Black too. Kyle Preston,

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Speaker 2: come on, thanks Jakes. Twelve twenty nine, Henry Chris, please

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Speaker 2: hold that with you After this, the spear lines popped up.

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Speaker 2: They don't last very long. Oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty back in a moment on news Talks d B.

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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

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Speaker 2: Talks twenty eight Away from Mine. A lot of people

451
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Speaker 2: making the point that Wayne Smith's influence in the All

452
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Speaker 2: Blacks camp this week may have been telling. Absolutely. He

453
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Speaker 2: was on the grass last night as well, having a

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Speaker 2: deep conversation with Scott Robertson and surely some deep satisfaction

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Speaker 2: as well. Henry, Hello, mate, thanks for holding.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Jason, no worries.

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Speaker 14: Hey, I hope you draw.

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Speaker 11: Yes, that rain was coming.

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Speaker 2: It was, It was, and it wasn't even fore casts.

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Speaker 2: I didn't actually think, you know, not that you can

461
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Speaker 2: trust Auckland's weather. I had a jacket, thankfully, but man,

462
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Speaker 2: it just came sort of in from the south west

463
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Speaker 2: and drenched us all for a week while there.

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Speaker 7: Lucky I was at home watching him with a cold

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Speaker 7: beer and thinks Dad, and he's getting so but.

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Speaker 16: Hey, are you played massive?

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Speaker 17: You know?

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Speaker 18: He always does and suddenly Christie pay Well.

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Speaker 19: But Scott Barrett, you know, there was the captain's knock.

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Speaker 9: That was cricket.

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Speaker 18: He would have made a sceney you know, he was

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Speaker 18: just you know, we've been waiting for us and he.

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Speaker 2: Just he was just so good last night, Henry, I

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Speaker 2: could not agree more. I thought he was man of

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Speaker 2: the match. I thought he was herculean last night. And

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Speaker 2: it's funny you say that. You know, we've been waiting

477
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Speaker 2: a while for this. I think, you know, he hasn't

478
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Speaker 2: been a universally popular choice as captain. I think a

479
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Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, look around that All Blacks

480
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Speaker 2: team and say there are other candidates who perhaps you

481
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Speaker 2: wear the armband. But what I saw last night from

482
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Speaker 2: Scott Barrett was the reason why he is the captain.

483
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Speaker 2: He's highly respected in that team and on his day

484
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Speaker 2: or on his night, which last night was, he is

485
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Speaker 2: one of the best lock forwards in the world. You know,

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Speaker 2: it was just he was just good.

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Speaker 15: It was just, you know, it was just perfect. You know, Hell,

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Speaker 15: I hope you were a warm jagger next week.

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Speaker 11: Made is that you're home down, didn't we?

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Speaker 9: Bloody gold.

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Speaker 2: I always come well prepared in Wellington, Henry. Good to

492
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Speaker 2: hear from your mate. Glad you enjoyed the enjoyed the

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Speaker 2: game from the safety Year couch last night, mate, Good

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Speaker 2: to chat to you. Hello, Chris.

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Speaker 15: I think that the all Bleck's.

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Speaker 20: Got it right with the loose trio Parker just his size.

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Speaker 7: And I thought so TT having him back, very active.

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Speaker 20: And aggressive, just like at Locke, he made a huge difference.

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Speaker 20: Those guys looked ready to take on set everyia. Another

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Speaker 20: thing I loved was the refereeing.

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Speaker 7: He would let things go, there was no lead's stop

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Speaker 7: the whole game.

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Speaker 20: For five minutes, go to the video ref and do

504
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Speaker 20: that sort of thing for an English referee offer. That

505
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Speaker 20: was fantastically refereed last night in a really scattered game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a great Chris, although I do note I've been

507
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Speaker 2: having a look at some social media this morning, which

508
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Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't do. But a lot of South African

509
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Speaker 2: fans and maybe it's because they ended up losing the game,

510
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Speaker 2: not happy at all with Carl Dixon's performance last night.

511
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Speaker 2: I was like you, I thought he had a good game.

512
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Speaker 20: Yeah, he let it slow, because how you know, all

513
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Speaker 20: that rugby these days seems to be We've always got

514
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Speaker 20: to stop the game, go up to the video with

515
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Speaker 20: we see the referee on the screen, sold ten minutes

516
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Speaker 20: of the game deciding on things that just didn't happen

517
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Speaker 20: last night. When one of the spring blocks picked up

518
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Speaker 20: McKenzie put him on the vertical. He didn't need to

519
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Speaker 20: stop the game and go back and look at it.

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Speaker 13: He just let it play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I liked him, Yeah, I liked him. No,

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Speaker 2: there's great points. Chris, what do you Oh, you've gone?

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you what you thought what

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Speaker 2: might happen next week? That is also a topic of

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Speaker 2: conversation we can get into today. I know it's the

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Speaker 2: day after eden Park, but it's the start of a

527
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Speaker 2: new week, and Tamoty Ellison even said as much. Didn't

528
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Speaker 2: he wakes up this morning and starts planning for the

529
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Speaker 2: next game, and you're wonder. I mean, there will absolutely

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Speaker 2: be a response from South Africa. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people before South Africa arrived thought the series might

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Speaker 2: be split one one and a lot of people who

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Speaker 2: did think that thought that the eden Park test was

534
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Speaker 2: the one the All Blacks would win for a variety

535
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Speaker 2: of reasons. But South Africa might bounce back in the

536
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Speaker 2: second I've got a pretty good record in Wellington have

537
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Speaker 2: South Africa, but the All Blacks will have you know

538
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Speaker 2: in their sights a two nil win over South Africa

539
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Speaker 2: in this little mini series that retained the Freedom Cup,

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Speaker 2: which has played for between the two. If South Africa

541
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Speaker 2: won last night, they would have taken over the Freedom Cup.

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Speaker 2: I saw the night run down and it said if

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Speaker 2: South Africa win the game, they retained the Freedom Cup.

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Speaker 2: Because obviously the All Blacks can't can't win the series

545
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Speaker 2: and South Africa hold it, so the Freedom Cup is

546
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Speaker 2: up for grabs as well. Attention Piney A few thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Full disclosure. I didn't think the All Blacks would improve

548
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Speaker 2: enough to beat South Africa last night. I'm happy to

549
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Speaker 2: be wrong on that one. The intensity of both teams

550
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Speaker 2: and the intelligence by the All Blacks has not been

551
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Speaker 2: seen since the last Rugby Cup World Cup Final Absolute

552
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Speaker 2: Test match. What was the hia count? This text goes

553
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Speaker 2: on to say a record perhaps that reflects the intensity

554
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Speaker 2: and the intent of the match, but might be a

555
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Speaker 2: red flag to those who have contact sport in their

556
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Speaker 2: cross heirs. Finally, I've heard the word joy used a

557
00:27:15,667 --> 00:27:18,627
Speaker 2: lot to describe the Women's Rugby World Cup. I suggest

558
00:27:18,867 --> 00:27:21,507
Speaker 2: makeship for the men's game. To see both teams willing

559
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Speaker 2: to sacrifice so completely for each other for eighty minutes

560
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Speaker 2: and then come together after the game was inspiring. To

561
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Speaker 2: see Jesse Kleil and see a Kalisi acknowledge Artie but

562
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Speaker 2: also his children and family. Shows the respect and camaraderie

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Speaker 2: between these men. Expecting more of the same next Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. Good text, adent ready, good text. And

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Speaker 2: there was some social media footage this morning I saw

566
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Speaker 2: of one of Ardie Savier's children running up to see

567
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Speaker 2: a Kalisi after the game and saying uncle, seea uncle

568
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Speaker 2: Sea and jumping into his arms. Thought it was a

569
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Speaker 2: very heartwarming moment.

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Speaker 21: Hello Mark, good afternoon, buddy, How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 21: Everybody so far put those exact same four players who

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Speaker 21: I thought were instrument alas night, even though Ricco didn't

575
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Speaker 21: get many opportunities on the wing. But yeah, that tackle

576
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Speaker 21: was brilliant.

577
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Speaker 7: But I'd like to go back to before the game

578
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Speaker 7: even started. Gase Matt.

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Speaker 21: Singing of the national anthems was probably the best I've

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Speaker 21: ever heard for probably twenty years. Crystal Claire no screaming,

581
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Speaker 21: absolutely beautifully done for both national anthems.

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Speaker 2: Yeah agree, yeah, agree. I'm going to find out because

583
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Speaker 2: I want to give credit to the right people. I

584
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Speaker 2: was sent the name. They were secondary school singers. I'm

585
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Speaker 2: going to get the school right. But I agree, I

586
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Speaker 2: thought it was spine tingling stuff.

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Speaker 21: Oh have Pacifica Pacifica children's choir. I think they're called.

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Speaker 2: We'll check and make sure we get it right, Mark,

589
00:28:56,867 --> 00:29:00,307
Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, it's funny, isn't it. Often the

590
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Speaker 2: conversation goes to the anthems or the harker or whatever

591
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Speaker 2: it is. But no, it was good last night, really

592
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Speaker 2: was good man, Mark, Thanks for calling through us always.

593
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Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. For the first time.

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Speaker 2: We've got a spare line if you want to use it.

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Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty who stood out

596
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Speaker 2: for you last night? I got a bunch of texts

597
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Speaker 2: here which I can get to, but keen to hear

598
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Speaker 2: your thoughts. There was pressure, massive pressure on this team

599
00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:33,027
Speaker 2: after what happened in Argentina. They were fully aware that

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Speaker 2: they let themselves down in the last test. They didn't

601
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Speaker 2: do themselves justice. They made a lot of errors. Their

602
00:29:40,627 --> 00:29:44,067
Speaker 2: discipline was no good After that test, I think, as

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Speaker 2: I said on the radio, maybe a day or two afterwards,

604
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Speaker 2: there was a lot of overreaction, if I'm honest, from

605
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Speaker 2: a lot of people who seem to think the sky

606
00:29:52,227 --> 00:29:54,307
Speaker 2: was going to fall in just because we've lost one game.

607
00:29:55,107 --> 00:29:58,827
Speaker 2: You balance that, of course, with you know, wanting to

608
00:29:58,907 --> 00:30:04,547
Speaker 2: critique this side and being absolutely within our rights to

609
00:30:04,627 --> 00:30:08,347
Speaker 2: do that. This is our team, the All Blacks. When

610
00:30:08,347 --> 00:30:10,227
Speaker 2: they don't play well, we are allowed to protect them

611
00:30:10,227 --> 00:30:13,147
Speaker 2: without actually, you know, going a little bit sort of

612
00:30:13,267 --> 00:30:16,507
Speaker 2: crazy and calling for heads left, right and center. The

613
00:30:16,587 --> 00:30:20,667
Speaker 2: All Blacks well aware of their shortcomings in Bueno series.

614
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Speaker 2: I think they did a lot last night to to

615
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Speaker 2: overcome some of those. I thought they were better in

616
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Speaker 2: the air. There's still some work to do there. I thought,

617
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Speaker 2: you know, that they were physical and their discipline was

618
00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:34,787
Speaker 2: certainly better. Not a yellow card to be seen for

619
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Speaker 2: an All Blacks player. Caugas Smith got one No one

620
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Speaker 2: from the All Blacks. Andrew Hea.

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Speaker 18: Just a couple of points from last night's game. I

622
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Speaker 18: was lucky enough to be at the game. Everyone's saying

623
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Speaker 18: here Roll Scott Bert and Adisavieray and both disagree. However,

624
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Speaker 18: I thought Simon Parker was nic really when probably a

625
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Speaker 18: new second.

626
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Speaker 2: Games, second test yet bang On, what a.

627
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Speaker 18: Beast, and I thought it, Yeah, you kind of backed

628
00:31:11,067 --> 00:31:13,627
Speaker 18: up Ali and yeah, had a fantastic game.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was. I was really pleased for him

630
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Speaker 2: to Andrew. You know, he that the All Black selectors

631
00:31:19,147 --> 00:31:21,907
Speaker 2: really like Simon Parker. If they had the opportunity to

632
00:31:21,907 --> 00:31:24,507
Speaker 2: pick him against France, they would have. He was injured

633
00:31:24,507 --> 00:31:25,867
Speaker 2: a course at the back end of the Super Rugby

634
00:31:25,907 --> 00:31:28,227
Speaker 2: season and couldn't play against France, but they were very

635
00:31:28,307 --> 00:31:30,947
Speaker 2: keen to get him in there. And you know, I

636
00:31:31,347 --> 00:31:33,867
Speaker 2: also thought and be interested to hear what you think

637
00:31:33,947 --> 00:31:35,827
Speaker 2: on this. I thought they were all in on Tupai

638
00:31:35,867 --> 00:31:38,267
Speaker 2: at number six. I thought they had decided he's the

639
00:31:38,347 --> 00:31:41,307
Speaker 2: number six. But back into the second row where he

640
00:31:41,347 --> 00:31:44,107
Speaker 2: played well again and Simon Parker big body. I thought

641
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Speaker 2: the loose Trio Parker savit. I really liked it.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, No, it was awesome.

643
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

644
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Speaker 18: I thought it was quite brave to put Tupu in

645
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Speaker 18: it to help out mister Barrett in the second row,

646
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Speaker 18: especially after well how well Fabian Piland played and the

647
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Speaker 18: few tests prior to that. So it was quit a

648
00:32:06,667 --> 00:32:09,187
Speaker 18: brave move and haven't certainly paid off.

649
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Speaker 2: Good thoughts Andrew, well made, mate, Thank you for calling through.

650
00:32:12,507 --> 00:32:15,227
Speaker 2: Call back any time nineteen away from one back with

651
00:32:15,307 --> 00:32:17,787
Speaker 2: more of your thoughts after this on weekend sport here

652
00:32:17,827 --> 00:32:21,507
Speaker 2: on news talks, he'd be the big issues on and

653
00:32:21,907 --> 00:32:22,707
Speaker 2: after fields.

654
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Speaker 1: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty weekends Forward with

655
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Speaker 1: Jason Fain and GJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's first trusted

656
00:32:29,627 --> 00:32:30,707
Speaker 1: home Milder News.

657
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Speaker 2: Talk d BB quarter to one. Darren says Pine was

658
00:32:33,507 --> 00:32:34,947
Speaker 2: at the game last night. Because there were so many

659
00:32:34,987 --> 00:32:37,267
Speaker 2: South Africans there, it was the loudest I've ever heard

660
00:32:37,347 --> 00:32:40,587
Speaker 2: another country's anthem at Eden Park. We responded with the

661
00:32:40,627 --> 00:32:44,427
Speaker 2: best crowd rendition I've ever heard of our anthem, including myself,

662
00:32:44,587 --> 00:32:46,947
Speaker 2: says Darren. Go the AB's great game. Good on you,

663
00:32:47,067 --> 00:32:51,027
Speaker 2: Darren y. It was sung with gusto. Both anthems were

664
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Speaker 2: the Auckland Secondary School's Pacifica choir sung the anthems. They

665
00:32:56,747 --> 00:33:00,987
Speaker 2: were tremendous, absolutely brilliant. Huge kudos Ian, Hi mate.

666
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Speaker 22: Oh good at Jason. Yeah, I'd like to endorse that

667
00:33:04,227 --> 00:33:06,907
Speaker 22: about the anthem, but I thought I what they sang

668
00:33:06,987 --> 00:33:10,067
Speaker 22: the South African one more professionally they did the second

669
00:33:10,107 --> 00:33:13,227
Speaker 22: they were trying to do a few variations with ours,

670
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Speaker 22: and itn't didn't seem to come off quite as well.

671
00:33:15,747 --> 00:33:18,467
Speaker 22: I thought that South Africa was absolutely beautiful. But anyway,

672
00:33:18,987 --> 00:33:22,107
Speaker 22: on the subject of South Africa, their strengths and what

673
00:33:22,267 --> 00:33:26,787
Speaker 22: we need to be worried about going forward. You know

674
00:33:27,147 --> 00:33:30,987
Speaker 22: that kitchen sink called Quago smith Man. When he comes on,

675
00:33:31,827 --> 00:33:33,827
Speaker 22: he's almost unsoppable.

676
00:33:33,907 --> 00:33:36,787
Speaker 2: Isn't the force of nature? Absolute force of nature? In fact,

677
00:33:36,787 --> 00:33:39,947
Speaker 2: it was quite handy. He got yellow carded you it was.

678
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Speaker 22: Indeed, I was worried when I threw him back on

679
00:33:42,747 --> 00:33:46,547
Speaker 22: the field of Oh, I watch out, and we're going

680
00:33:46,627 --> 00:33:48,427
Speaker 22: to need a We're going to need to do a

681
00:33:48,507 --> 00:33:50,867
Speaker 22: little bit of work on that area in that area,

682
00:33:50,907 --> 00:33:54,147
Speaker 22: because they know they pushed us off the ball a

683
00:33:54,187 --> 00:33:57,027
Speaker 22: couple of times, didn't they as well? So I don't

684
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Speaker 22: know whether that's technique or strength. It's probably technique, I

685
00:34:00,747 --> 00:34:01,067
Speaker 22: think so.

686
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I know the scrum you're referring to, because

687
00:34:05,267 --> 00:34:07,987
Speaker 2: it was so I care they just walked over the

688
00:34:08,067 --> 00:34:09,987
Speaker 2: top of us and got a tight head, which is

689
00:34:10,107 --> 00:34:13,027
Speaker 2: so rare these days. And top level rugby and it

690
00:34:13,147 --> 00:34:16,427
Speaker 2: led to it led indirectly to a tribe. I'm not

691
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:17,987
Speaker 2: sure if you heard during the week, but the All

692
00:34:18,027 --> 00:34:21,907
Speaker 2: Blacks were actually training, the eight who were starting the

693
00:34:22,027 --> 00:34:25,827
Speaker 2: test were training against ten man scrums, so just to

694
00:34:25,867 --> 00:34:28,267
Speaker 2: get ready for the physicality that South Africa would bring.

695
00:34:29,387 --> 00:34:31,587
Speaker 2: They certainly they got a big shove on on that one.

696
00:34:31,627 --> 00:34:34,547
Speaker 2: But I think, like you say, it's probably technique as

697
00:34:34,627 --> 00:34:36,347
Speaker 2: much at it as it is brute strength.

698
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Speaker 22: And also I think the slippery underfoot. I think if you,

699
00:34:41,587 --> 00:34:43,787
Speaker 22: if you're smart and you picked the moment you can,

700
00:34:43,987 --> 00:34:45,987
Speaker 22: you can you can get a great advantage if you

701
00:34:46,507 --> 00:34:48,427
Speaker 22: if you hit, if you hit it before they're ready.

702
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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, good, good observations in and let's let's see

703
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Speaker 2: what happens next week. That's the other exciting thing. We

704
00:34:55,867 --> 00:34:58,947
Speaker 2: get round two in six days time. Hey, Scott.

705
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Speaker 9: A Piney just just.

706
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Speaker 23: One point mate, and it goes off to Razor for

707
00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:09,867
Speaker 23: faith in finlay Christie to have the third rate half

708
00:35:09,947 --> 00:35:12,627
Speaker 23: back on. I thought he did an amazing job. And

709
00:35:12,747 --> 00:35:17,147
Speaker 23: then to have faith and bring in sorry, the reserve halfback.

710
00:35:17,187 --> 00:35:17,947
Speaker 23: His name eludes me.

711
00:35:18,147 --> 00:35:22,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Preston. Kyle Preston, yep, Yeah, With twenty.

712
00:35:22,507 --> 00:35:24,467
Speaker 23: Minutes to go and have faith in him. He could

713
00:35:24,507 --> 00:35:27,147
Speaker 23: have stayed with Christie and he would have done the job,

714
00:35:27,227 --> 00:35:29,507
Speaker 23: but to have faith in him to play twenty minutes

715
00:35:29,707 --> 00:35:31,987
Speaker 23: at that critical point of the game was awesome.

716
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could well be a seminal moment for Kyle Preston.

717
00:35:35,347 --> 00:35:38,107
Speaker 2: You're right, though, Scott. You know phil Ay Christy at

718
00:35:38,187 --> 00:35:40,507
Speaker 2: best the fourth choice half back at the start of

719
00:35:40,547 --> 00:35:43,067
Speaker 2: this year. I've said this. You know, Razor picked three

720
00:35:43,147 --> 00:35:45,027
Speaker 2: others ruped to a roy Guard host them ahead of them,

721
00:35:45,067 --> 00:35:47,947
Speaker 2: so he knew in the coach's mind he was only fourth,

722
00:35:48,267 --> 00:35:49,267
Speaker 2: but I thought he was.

723
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Speaker 13: You know.

724
00:35:49,947 --> 00:35:52,307
Speaker 2: Yes, he got into a couple of scraps at the

725
00:35:52,307 --> 00:35:54,467
Speaker 2: base of rucks and a couple of his kicks weren't

726
00:35:54,547 --> 00:35:57,347
Speaker 2: quite as accurate as he probably would have hoped, But

727
00:35:57,467 --> 00:35:59,507
Speaker 2: I thought I thought he gave a good account of himself.

728
00:35:59,587 --> 00:36:01,987
Speaker 2: And Preston coming on icing on the cake in a

729
00:36:02,067 --> 00:36:03,027
Speaker 2: debut for that kid too.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, totally mate. So I look forward to seeing those two.

731
00:36:08,787 --> 00:36:10,547
Speaker 23: I have another own next week hopefully.

732
00:36:10,707 --> 00:36:13,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, Scott, I do too. I think what

733
00:36:13,187 --> 00:36:14,907
Speaker 2: it does also is it means you don't really have

734
00:36:14,987 --> 00:36:17,027
Speaker 2: to rush courtiez Well after my back. If he's not right,

735
00:36:17,627 --> 00:36:20,507
Speaker 2: you say, okay, well you know we've got Christine in Priceton.

736
00:36:20,707 --> 00:36:23,707
Speaker 2: No need to necessarily rush back a guy who's got

737
00:36:23,747 --> 00:36:24,547
Speaker 2: a band to the rooms.

738
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Speaker 24: Hey, Pete, okay, Bonnie, it's a bit of a stressful

739
00:36:28,907 --> 00:36:29,627
Speaker 24: game last night.

740
00:36:32,147 --> 00:36:36,307
Speaker 2: It was Pete here. The news were jangling, mate, ah.

741
00:36:37,187 --> 00:36:39,067
Speaker 24: And some way just shouldn't say they were lucky to

742
00:36:39,107 --> 00:36:43,067
Speaker 24: pull it off at the end. So they came back fighting.

743
00:36:43,547 --> 00:36:47,227
Speaker 24: But just regarding the with the kicking last night, I'm

744
00:36:47,267 --> 00:36:52,467
Speaker 24: pleased that Raiser didn't give boy you the kicking game

745
00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:55,427
Speaker 24: last night. I didn't play that good with the art detainers.

746
00:36:55,707 --> 00:36:58,747
Speaker 24: It cost out the game that he knows that. Then

747
00:36:58,787 --> 00:37:01,547
Speaker 24: he gave it to Geordie as well. So I'm pleased

748
00:37:01,547 --> 00:37:04,107
Speaker 24: that Damian's got his kicking shoes.

749
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Speaker 5: Back on the year.

750
00:37:05,867 --> 00:37:08,947
Speaker 24: Yes, I still reckon. You might not like I stay here,

751
00:37:08,987 --> 00:37:11,187
Speaker 24: but I still reckon. Dane mckenj is still a more

752
00:37:11,227 --> 00:37:14,147
Speaker 24: consistent kicker than my boat. And that's just my point

753
00:37:14,187 --> 00:37:14,427
Speaker 24: of view.

754
00:37:14,627 --> 00:37:16,307
Speaker 2: No, pet I don't. I don't mind that point of

755
00:37:16,347 --> 00:37:18,667
Speaker 2: view at all. In fact, I think you the stats

756
00:37:18,707 --> 00:37:22,027
Speaker 2: would probably back you up. So yeah, it's just I

757
00:37:22,067 --> 00:37:25,067
Speaker 2: guess it's getting them both on the same side. You know,

758
00:37:25,187 --> 00:37:28,027
Speaker 2: Damien came on last night earlier than everybody expected because

759
00:37:28,067 --> 00:37:30,307
Speaker 2: of the injury to Emany Nadaway, and that just happened

760
00:37:30,347 --> 00:37:33,067
Speaker 2: to be, you know, handy from a kicking point of view.

761
00:37:33,067 --> 00:37:35,627
Speaker 2: You're right. It was a really interesting comment made by

762
00:37:35,707 --> 00:37:38,947
Speaker 2: Body during the week about his kicking in Argentina, and

763
00:37:39,027 --> 00:37:40,987
Speaker 2: it was a bit it was a bit cryptic. He said,

764
00:37:41,347 --> 00:37:44,267
Speaker 2: I had an issue which I'm not willing to go into,

765
00:37:44,627 --> 00:37:47,147
Speaker 2: about my kicking, and I don't know what that is.

766
00:37:47,747 --> 00:37:50,227
Speaker 2: If he's carrying a knock, I don't know. But yeah,

767
00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:52,787
Speaker 2: but Jordie and then Damien, Yeah, kicked the points last night,

768
00:37:52,827 --> 00:37:54,267
Speaker 2: which which proved to be pretty.

769
00:37:54,067 --> 00:37:58,307
Speaker 24: Crucially But even Damien the I don't care. He's a

770
00:37:58,387 --> 00:38:00,987
Speaker 24: tough little bug of that guy. I give them full credit. Ye,

771
00:38:01,387 --> 00:38:03,747
Speaker 24: he's out and about and he's not scaring those high

772
00:38:03,827 --> 00:38:05,507
Speaker 24: tacking He's a little weed. End of the day. That

773
00:38:05,627 --> 00:38:07,147
Speaker 24: many a strong You can't kill him.

774
00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:10,307
Speaker 2: Love it, Pete, love it, mate. What a great analogy. Yeah,

775
00:38:10,347 --> 00:38:13,347
Speaker 2: And and him climbing. I remember one specific incident last

776
00:38:13,427 --> 00:38:15,387
Speaker 2: night when he climbed into the air and Tarmody Ellison

777
00:38:15,427 --> 00:38:17,267
Speaker 2: backed it up. You know you've got no protection up there.

778
00:38:17,347 --> 00:38:20,867
Speaker 2: Now you're up in the air and guys are closing

779
00:38:20,947 --> 00:38:22,387
Speaker 2: in on you, and you know you're going to get

780
00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:25,307
Speaker 2: it as soon as your feet at the ground. Very courageous,

781
00:38:25,307 --> 00:38:28,667
Speaker 2: I thought last night under the high ball, Damien McKenzie. Chris, Hello,

782
00:38:30,707 --> 00:38:31,227
Speaker 2: how are you good?

783
00:38:31,307 --> 00:38:31,467
Speaker 13: Mate?

784
00:38:31,507 --> 00:38:31,667
Speaker 7: Good?

785
00:38:33,347 --> 00:38:34,307
Speaker 17: You got a lot to talk about.

786
00:38:34,347 --> 00:38:36,387
Speaker 7: But guess I'm just my biggest confusion is this.

787
00:38:36,827 --> 00:38:40,547
Speaker 25: Box kicking strategy where it becomes a big component now.

788
00:38:40,507 --> 00:38:41,387
Speaker 14: With you know, territory.

789
00:38:41,947 --> 00:38:44,307
Speaker 25: I just feel like it's such a lottery and you're

790
00:38:44,347 --> 00:38:48,067
Speaker 25: giving these guys not only positioned potentially that fifty to

791
00:38:48,147 --> 00:38:51,787
Speaker 25: fifty scenario. It just doesn't sit well for me in

792
00:38:51,907 --> 00:38:54,067
Speaker 25: terms of the game plan, and you know, the amount

793
00:38:54,067 --> 00:38:56,267
Speaker 25: of time's fin lay head to kick we get there,

794
00:38:56,307 --> 00:38:59,067
Speaker 25: so they needed it territory, but it becomes quite a

795
00:38:59,147 --> 00:39:01,547
Speaker 25: boring spectacle, and I just wonder, you know, what what

796
00:39:01,707 --> 00:39:04,547
Speaker 25: the what the Ethoughts sought their vision is around there?

797
00:39:04,827 --> 00:39:07,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris, it's a It's a topic we could talk

798
00:39:07,307 --> 00:39:12,147
Speaker 2: about for hours. The basic philosophy as you as you've

799
00:39:12,507 --> 00:39:14,147
Speaker 2: picked up on is that you know, you get a

800
00:39:14,187 --> 00:39:16,587
Speaker 2: bit of territory and you very rarely see them box

801
00:39:16,667 --> 00:39:18,867
Speaker 2: kick in the opposition half, don't you. It's when you're

802
00:39:18,907 --> 00:39:21,107
Speaker 2: in your own half your box kick you give yourself

803
00:39:21,147 --> 00:39:24,147
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty chance. But that depends on having chases.

804
00:39:24,627 --> 00:39:24,867
Speaker 1: It is.

805
00:39:25,027 --> 00:39:29,107
Speaker 2: I think lottery is a good word, mate, and strategy wise,

806
00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:32,427
Speaker 2: I think we'll continue to see it because they'll roll

807
00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:34,067
Speaker 2: the dice and say, well, if we get better with

808
00:39:34,147 --> 00:39:36,547
Speaker 2: our chase and knock it back, then we do gain

809
00:39:36,587 --> 00:39:38,667
Speaker 2: the territory and we get the ball back, even though

810
00:39:38,667 --> 00:39:41,147
Speaker 2: it's not much more than a fifty to fifty proposition.

811
00:39:41,987 --> 00:39:42,707
Speaker 16: Yeah, I hear that.

812
00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:45,107
Speaker 25: I guess you know in terms of you know, the

813
00:39:45,227 --> 00:39:48,347
Speaker 25: coaching personnel. You know, at Tech Defense, we've got some

814
00:39:48,427 --> 00:39:50,467
Speaker 25: big boys there. So if we can hit some pods

815
00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:53,747
Speaker 25: and some back plays or just break that advantage line

816
00:39:54,027 --> 00:39:56,827
Speaker 25: from the ruck, I just think we've got more empetus and.

817
00:39:56,907 --> 00:40:00,067
Speaker 2: More go for it. Yeah, Chris, even as you're saying it,

818
00:40:00,107 --> 00:40:03,147
Speaker 2: I'm nodding, mate, Absolutely, there are many ways to gain territory,

819
00:40:03,307 --> 00:40:07,387
Speaker 2: and the way you've just outlined keeps balling hand. So yeah,

820
00:40:07,387 --> 00:40:08,907
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see how they evolved.

821
00:40:08,947 --> 00:40:12,987
Speaker 25: A Another one, Mate, was just the Argentinian game. So

822
00:40:13,107 --> 00:40:15,467
Speaker 25: it's you WoT a beast, mate. You know a center

823
00:40:15,507 --> 00:40:17,667
Speaker 25: who just continues to ask questions of the defense, and

824
00:40:18,427 --> 00:40:19,867
Speaker 25: you know he picked up a double last.

825
00:40:19,747 --> 00:40:20,627
Speaker 11: Night, and jeez, he looks good.

826
00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:22,667
Speaker 2: They're a good team, Chris, They're a good team. Can't

827
00:40:22,667 --> 00:40:24,387
Speaker 2: wait for the bled us though. Good to chat mate,

828
00:40:24,427 --> 00:40:26,347
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling again. Seven to one News talks EDB.

829
00:40:27,947 --> 00:40:30,547
Speaker 1: The Scoons from the track, field and the court on

830
00:40:30,707 --> 00:40:34,227
Speaker 1: your home of thought Weekend Sport. Where's Jason Vine and

831
00:40:34,387 --> 00:40:35,547
Speaker 1: used TALKSB.

832
00:40:35,427 --> 00:40:38,427
Speaker 2: For one more All Blacks content for you after one

833
00:40:38,467 --> 00:40:41,147
Speaker 2: o'clock Jill International for the All Blacks and the Keiwi's

834
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,227
Speaker 2: Fronto Bottican. Haven't it Fronto on the air for a while.

835
00:40:43,227 --> 00:40:44,507
Speaker 2: I have a chat to him about the game, what

836
00:40:44,587 --> 00:40:46,827
Speaker 2: he saw, what he picked up on. Many more of

837
00:40:46,907 --> 00:40:48,707
Speaker 2: your calls as well, not everybody I know we could

838
00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:51,187
Speaker 2: get on the air in the last hour. We do

839
00:40:51,347 --> 00:40:53,867
Speaker 2: appreciate you giving us a ring. We'll try and get

840
00:40:53,867 --> 00:40:55,267
Speaker 2: as many of you on the air as we can.

841
00:40:55,547 --> 00:40:57,907
Speaker 2: After one o'clock, Arna says on text, I just love

842
00:40:57,947 --> 00:41:00,507
Speaker 2: the whole match. Notable for me, the brilliant early tried

843
00:41:00,547 --> 00:41:04,187
Speaker 2: from Rookie and Morning Nadawa Artie's celebration, Scott Barrett's leadership

844
00:41:04,227 --> 00:41:07,787
Speaker 2: and the wonderful Pacifica choir. I also love the intense Hacker.

845
00:41:07,947 --> 00:41:10,747
Speaker 2: The whole thing was pure class says are it? Thanks

846
00:41:10,747 --> 00:41:13,107
Speaker 2: All Blacks? Eden Parkard? This save here, the Pacific acquired

847
00:41:13,147 --> 00:41:15,627
Speaker 2: the spring box and all the fans couldn't agree more

848
00:41:15,707 --> 00:41:17,627
Speaker 2: that there was a buzz in there last night. There

849
00:41:17,707 --> 00:41:21,707
Speaker 2: was a helpable buzz inside that ground, helped largely by

850
00:41:21,747 --> 00:41:24,427
Speaker 2: the number of South African fans who really bought into

851
00:41:24,507 --> 00:41:27,467
Speaker 2: it before during it. I'm sure after the game news

852
00:41:27,547 --> 00:41:28,107
Speaker 2: next to one.

853
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

854
00:41:32,747 --> 00:41:36,107
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on We James Ford with

855
00:41:36,347 --> 00:41:39,227
Speaker 1: Jason Paine on your home of sport.

856
00:41:41,707 --> 00:41:43,827
Speaker 2: A new talks b this this weekend sport. As the

857
00:41:43,907 --> 00:41:46,267
Speaker 2: man said, I'm Jason Pine and McDonald's show produced to

858
00:41:46,307 --> 00:41:49,267
Speaker 2: were Hit till three talking rugby for most of this hour.

859
00:41:49,387 --> 00:41:51,667
Speaker 2: James mcconey at the back end his thoughts on the

860
00:41:51,707 --> 00:41:55,747
Speaker 2: All Blacks but also other matters too. Pronobodica shortly, but

861
00:41:56,307 --> 00:41:59,507
Speaker 2: your calls and correspondence to what we're after. Not everybody

862
00:41:59,547 --> 00:42:02,227
Speaker 2: could get through. Last out seems to happen the day

863
00:42:02,227 --> 00:42:04,827
Speaker 2: after an All Blacks test happens more of us an

864
00:42:04,827 --> 00:42:08,147
Speaker 2: All Blacks test loss. But lots to talk about, lots

865
00:42:08,187 --> 00:42:11,587
Speaker 2: to like from last night. We'll get back to your

866
00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:16,027
Speaker 2: calls very very shortly. I want to talk some Warriors

867
00:42:16,107 --> 00:42:20,147
Speaker 2: after two o'clock as well. A pleasure to welcome in

868
00:42:21,187 --> 00:42:24,867
Speaker 2: one of very few dual internationals for the All Blacks

869
00:42:24,907 --> 00:42:27,867
Speaker 2: and the Kiwi's North Harbor rugby legend. Twenty seven games

870
00:42:27,907 --> 00:42:29,827
Speaker 2: for the All Blacks during one of our most successful

871
00:42:29,867 --> 00:42:33,427
Speaker 2: periods back into the eighties. Then over two hundred top

872
00:42:33,547 --> 00:42:36,587
Speaker 2: level games of rugby league for Wigan, the Warriors, Castleford,

873
00:42:37,187 --> 00:42:39,987
Speaker 2: several games for the Kiwis as well. Fron o'bodica, how

874
00:42:40,067 --> 00:42:40,547
Speaker 2: are you mate?

875
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:43,627
Speaker 12: Very good?

876
00:42:43,707 --> 00:42:43,947
Speaker 5: Thanks?

877
00:42:43,987 --> 00:42:46,827
Speaker 2: Were you involved in a All Blacks reunion of sorts

878
00:42:46,867 --> 00:42:47,787
Speaker 2: over the last few days?

879
00:42:49,267 --> 00:42:50,067
Speaker 16: I certainly was.

880
00:42:51,027 --> 00:42:52,707
Speaker 7: Yes, it was very good too.

881
00:42:53,187 --> 00:42:55,667
Speaker 2: That's gonna say. How were the stories? How are the stories?

882
00:42:55,707 --> 00:42:56,747
Speaker 2: And who was telling most of them?

883
00:42:57,867 --> 00:43:02,347
Speaker 7: Oh, Charles Reichelman likes to tell a few stories, you know,

884
00:43:03,467 --> 00:43:04,267
Speaker 7: He's always.

885
00:43:04,067 --> 00:43:04,507
Speaker 5: Good for that.

886
00:43:05,547 --> 00:43:08,347
Speaker 7: Otherwise we all reminiscent and stretched the stories.

887
00:43:08,387 --> 00:43:11,667
Speaker 2: We all know brilliant love it. Just before we get

888
00:43:11,707 --> 00:43:13,907
Speaker 2: onto what happened last night that team, that All Blacks

889
00:43:13,907 --> 00:43:16,827
Speaker 2: team of the late eighties. You were led by Buck Shelford,

890
00:43:17,427 --> 00:43:20,427
Speaker 2: unbeaten from what eighty seven right through to the first

891
00:43:20,507 --> 00:43:23,027
Speaker 2: bit of nineteen ninety. What was it like being in

892
00:43:23,107 --> 00:43:23,547
Speaker 2: that team?

893
00:43:25,547 --> 00:43:29,267
Speaker 7: It was amazing, you know. Look, I was for a

894
00:43:29,347 --> 00:43:32,427
Speaker 7: lot large period of that. I was always on the bench,

895
00:43:32,547 --> 00:43:37,347
Speaker 7: you know, but being part of it was awesome. Certainly,

896
00:43:37,387 --> 00:43:42,507
Speaker 7: wouldn't take it. I have fond memories or memories of

897
00:43:42,587 --> 00:43:45,507
Speaker 7: it which I won't forget, you know, you know, sure

898
00:43:45,547 --> 00:43:47,307
Speaker 7: I would have liked to have played more games, but

899
00:43:47,547 --> 00:43:51,827
Speaker 7: you know, it was a very competitive team with a

900
00:43:51,907 --> 00:43:54,507
Speaker 7: lot of good players who were sitting on the bench

901
00:43:54,587 --> 00:43:58,587
Speaker 7: as well, So he will never forget that.

902
00:43:59,107 --> 00:44:00,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love watching that team. And as you say,

903
00:44:00,987 --> 00:44:02,827
Speaker 2: you just needed Grant Fox or pull a hamstring or two,

904
00:44:02,827 --> 00:44:04,507
Speaker 2: didn't you, and you would have got more games. But

905
00:44:05,667 --> 00:44:09,147
Speaker 2: watching those good to be very did deserved to be

906
00:44:09,307 --> 00:44:11,547
Speaker 2: in front of the Well. I think a lot of

907
00:44:11,547 --> 00:44:13,027
Speaker 2: people just like the way you played the game, and

908
00:44:13,067 --> 00:44:15,667
Speaker 2: we saw we saw it mainly on those those tours

909
00:44:15,667 --> 00:44:18,547
Speaker 2: where you played midweek games, and and yeah, we're just anyway,

910
00:44:19,027 --> 00:44:20,587
Speaker 2: we don't want to rumin us too much. You've been

911
00:44:20,627 --> 00:44:23,427
Speaker 2: doing that over the last week or so. So let's

912
00:44:23,467 --> 00:44:24,707
Speaker 2: move to the present day. What did you make of

913
00:44:24,747 --> 00:44:26,387
Speaker 2: the win last night by the All Blacks over the

914
00:44:26,427 --> 00:44:26,987
Speaker 2: spring Boks.

915
00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:31,627
Speaker 16: I thought it was It's exactly what we needed.

916
00:44:31,987 --> 00:44:34,867
Speaker 7: I think that most of us were of the same

917
00:44:34,947 --> 00:44:36,707
Speaker 7: opinion that it was going to be a tough game,

918
00:44:36,787 --> 00:44:38,907
Speaker 7: that was always going to be a close game, and

919
00:44:38,947 --> 00:44:42,987
Speaker 7: there would be some small mistakes that would cost either side.

920
00:44:43,427 --> 00:44:43,587
Speaker 5: You know.

921
00:44:43,787 --> 00:44:48,747
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, we got off to a fantastic start and managed

922
00:44:48,747 --> 00:44:51,467
Speaker 7: to hold on there, but then we also could have

923
00:44:51,507 --> 00:44:53,547
Speaker 7: lost it in those last few minutes and it wasn't

924
00:44:53,587 --> 00:45:03,267
Speaker 7: for our our savior of h Savia. You know, he

925
00:45:03,467 --> 00:45:05,467
Speaker 7: pulled out, he pulled something out of the out of

926
00:45:05,507 --> 00:45:08,027
Speaker 7: the bag by steal that ball, and you know, they

927
00:45:08,147 --> 00:45:09,027
Speaker 7: could have been a drawer.

928
00:45:09,787 --> 00:45:14,307
Speaker 2: What do you make of box kicking? Fronto and teams

929
00:45:14,427 --> 00:45:15,707
Speaker 2: using it quite regularly?

930
00:45:15,787 --> 00:45:15,907
Speaker 26: Now?

931
00:45:15,907 --> 00:45:17,387
Speaker 2: A lot of our listeners are big fans of the

932
00:45:17,427 --> 00:45:18,827
Speaker 2: box kick? What about you?

933
00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:20,867
Speaker 22: Nah?

934
00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:26,427
Speaker 7: Nah, I'm not. It's not quite a bit. It's every time.

935
00:45:28,227 --> 00:45:31,587
Speaker 7: And obviously the spring boxer a lot better with the

936
00:45:31,707 --> 00:45:33,867
Speaker 7: ball in the end than we are, and they're probably

937
00:45:33,907 --> 00:45:35,947
Speaker 7: better than any other team in the in the world.

938
00:45:36,067 --> 00:45:38,227
Speaker 7: You know, there are a couple of times in the

939
00:45:38,307 --> 00:45:40,747
Speaker 7: game where I thought we you know, we got to

940
00:45:40,787 --> 00:45:43,467
Speaker 7: turnover ball. One was in our own twenty two and

941
00:45:43,587 --> 00:45:46,827
Speaker 7: they had like three or four big forwards out in

942
00:45:46,867 --> 00:45:49,307
Speaker 7: the back line and we had three backs behind the

943
00:45:49,347 --> 00:45:51,787
Speaker 7: scrum and a couple of backs out wider when we

944
00:45:51,987 --> 00:45:54,267
Speaker 7: and those are the sort of opportunities that we need

945
00:45:54,387 --> 00:45:57,867
Speaker 7: to look at, whether it's at that level or not,

946
00:45:58,187 --> 00:46:01,747
Speaker 7: and go, well, the chances of us breaking here are

947
00:46:01,787 --> 00:46:05,307
Speaker 7: pretty good, and if not then we'll get tackled, we'll

948
00:46:05,347 --> 00:46:07,827
Speaker 7: secure the triumph, secure the ball and the end kick it.

949
00:46:08,987 --> 00:46:11,587
Speaker 7: But but they should you know, this is my own opinion,

950
00:46:11,627 --> 00:46:14,627
Speaker 7: but they should actually look to have a go first

951
00:46:14,667 --> 00:46:18,547
Speaker 7: and if it's not on then then then try something else.

952
00:46:18,627 --> 00:46:20,787
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean the French, for example, do a

953
00:46:20,827 --> 00:46:23,427
Speaker 7: lot of those little chip kicks. Body does it every

954
00:46:23,467 --> 00:46:27,907
Speaker 7: now and then and you know it's done well. They're

955
00:46:28,027 --> 00:46:28,667
Speaker 7: very effective.

956
00:46:29,387 --> 00:46:31,747
Speaker 2: What about under the high ball as a as a

957
00:46:31,827 --> 00:46:33,867
Speaker 2: defender front o, you know you had to had to

958
00:46:33,867 --> 00:46:36,627
Speaker 2: field a lot of high kicks in both codes. What

959
00:46:36,947 --> 00:46:40,387
Speaker 2: what are the main things you need to do well

960
00:46:40,907 --> 00:46:43,187
Speaker 2: to be good as a defender under the high ball?

961
00:46:44,507 --> 00:46:46,907
Speaker 7: Well, obviously you need to keep your eye on the ball.

962
00:46:48,107 --> 00:46:51,067
Speaker 7: It depends how much momentum you have coming into the ball.

963
00:46:51,107 --> 00:46:54,227
Speaker 7: If you're standing there and trying to jump, then the

964
00:46:54,387 --> 00:46:58,107
Speaker 7: person running at you and and jumping is always going

965
00:46:58,147 --> 00:47:01,107
Speaker 7: to get higher or add one more mean to vote

966
00:47:01,147 --> 00:47:05,027
Speaker 7: towards the ball than you are. So it's tricky, and

967
00:47:05,147 --> 00:47:07,147
Speaker 7: especially if you're a little follow it makes it a

968
00:47:07,227 --> 00:47:09,107
Speaker 7: lot harder. You've got a time it so that you

969
00:47:09,187 --> 00:47:11,747
Speaker 7: can run into it and jump as well.

970
00:47:11,867 --> 00:47:13,707
Speaker 2: You know, you say you got to keep your eye

971
00:47:13,707 --> 00:47:16,227
Speaker 2: on the ball. It seems I would I would.

972
00:47:15,987 --> 00:47:20,907
Speaker 7: Say, well, although I was I had the opportunity to

973
00:47:21,267 --> 00:47:23,587
Speaker 7: catch a number of balls, I wouldn't say I was

974
00:47:23,587 --> 00:47:25,587
Speaker 7: the greatest. We didn't practice as much as they do

975
00:47:25,747 --> 00:47:28,627
Speaker 7: these days to catch it, So I've got an excuse

976
00:47:28,707 --> 00:47:31,787
Speaker 7: I didn't practice as much fool fellers and these fellow's

977
00:47:31,827 --> 00:47:34,547
Speaker 7: got nothing else to do training except practice there and

978
00:47:34,627 --> 00:47:35,427
Speaker 7: a few other things.

979
00:47:37,987 --> 00:47:39,707
Speaker 2: You must say, you keep it on the ball, that's

980
00:47:39,787 --> 00:47:41,667
Speaker 2: very good advice. But but when they when you got

981
00:47:41,747 --> 00:47:44,587
Speaker 2: guys hearing at you at you know, we're just waiting

982
00:47:44,627 --> 00:47:46,307
Speaker 2: for you to catch it hit the ground, and then

983
00:47:46,307 --> 00:47:48,907
Speaker 2: they're gonna bang hit you. You must have a wee

984
00:47:49,027 --> 00:47:50,707
Speaker 2: look do you to see these guys coming.

985
00:47:51,667 --> 00:47:52,627
Speaker 7: You're the ones who have a wee?

986
00:47:52,747 --> 00:47:53,907
Speaker 24: Look are the ones who drop it?

987
00:47:58,787 --> 00:47:59,307
Speaker 5: Love it? Hey?

988
00:48:00,187 --> 00:48:03,267
Speaker 7: I mean look, last night was hard. It was it

989
00:48:03,387 --> 00:48:05,907
Speaker 7: was flippery, you know, the rain came and we were

990
00:48:05,947 --> 00:48:08,987
Speaker 7: hoping that rate. I was yesterday morning sitting at home

991
00:48:09,067 --> 00:48:10,867
Speaker 7: and it was raining and I was going, if it

992
00:48:10,947 --> 00:48:13,107
Speaker 7: continues to rain, I don't know whether I'll be going

993
00:48:13,147 --> 00:48:16,867
Speaker 7: to watch the rugby. But it's cleared up, so our

994
00:48:16,947 --> 00:48:17,627
Speaker 7: minutes to get there.

995
00:48:17,787 --> 00:48:17,947
Speaker 5: Good.

996
00:48:18,147 --> 00:48:19,627
Speaker 2: It's good to have you there. Do you find yourself

997
00:48:19,707 --> 00:48:22,867
Speaker 2: watching more rugby union or rugby league these days?

998
00:48:24,707 --> 00:48:28,947
Speaker 7: These days I watched I watch. I'm a bit of

999
00:48:28,987 --> 00:48:29,947
Speaker 7: a sports.

1000
00:48:31,347 --> 00:48:31,907
Speaker 2: Stuff, you know.

1001
00:48:31,907 --> 00:48:35,387
Speaker 7: I like to watch all sports. And because of that,

1002
00:48:35,627 --> 00:48:36,307
Speaker 7: I watch.

1003
00:48:36,227 --> 00:48:40,667
Speaker 26: A lot of highlights twelve minutes, twelve and a half

1004
00:48:40,787 --> 00:48:46,187
Speaker 26: minute highlights of most things, just because like otherwise, otherwise

1005
00:48:46,227 --> 00:48:48,427
Speaker 26: you could spend the whole weekend sitting.

1006
00:48:48,147 --> 00:48:50,827
Speaker 7: In front of your TV watching you know. Yeah, so

1007
00:48:51,147 --> 00:48:53,347
Speaker 7: I would say I watch. I watched the highlights of

1008
00:48:53,387 --> 00:48:58,707
Speaker 7: the Warriors men and women, and then I watch probably

1009
00:48:58,827 --> 00:49:04,347
Speaker 7: half of the ITM cap stuff. Obviously, I'll watch your blacks.

1010
00:49:04,347 --> 00:49:08,387
Speaker 7: I watch any any gulf that are kiwis in I

1011
00:49:08,547 --> 00:49:12,507
Speaker 7: watch the cycling, so I've got to feel a bit

1012
00:49:12,587 --> 00:49:13,227
Speaker 7: to watch mate.

1013
00:49:13,347 --> 00:49:15,787
Speaker 2: Yeah do you say you could spend the whole weekend

1014
00:49:15,827 --> 00:49:17,667
Speaker 2: on the couch as though that's a bad thing, you know.

1015
00:49:18,547 --> 00:49:21,707
Speaker 7: Oh well, you know the Missus gives me too about

1016
00:49:21,787 --> 00:49:24,227
Speaker 7: nine o'clock, so I'm going to have editing for this

1017
00:49:24,347 --> 00:49:27,387
Speaker 7: by nine and then you know, so you know I'm

1018
00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:29,267
Speaker 7: under I'm under, I'm under pressure.

1019
00:49:29,547 --> 00:49:30,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, under the pone.

1020
00:49:31,267 --> 00:49:35,427
Speaker 7: I get over watching too much rugby or too much League,

1021
00:49:36,147 --> 00:49:37,947
Speaker 7: you know. I just watched the key things.

1022
00:49:37,787 --> 00:49:38,507
Speaker 5: And this about it.

1023
00:49:38,667 --> 00:49:39,587
Speaker 2: Are you doing any coaching?

1024
00:49:41,147 --> 00:49:41,187
Speaker 26: No?

1025
00:49:41,347 --> 00:49:44,547
Speaker 7: No, I finished coaching two years ago. I just coached

1026
00:49:44,587 --> 00:49:46,347
Speaker 7: for North Shore for abouteen years.

1027
00:49:46,427 --> 00:49:50,027
Speaker 2: So that was my That was enough for me. So

1028
00:49:50,107 --> 00:49:51,947
Speaker 2: what are you doing to stay foot and active now.

1029
00:49:53,347 --> 00:49:55,747
Speaker 7: At the moment, I'm not a lot. I do do

1030
00:49:55,827 --> 00:49:58,867
Speaker 7: a wind trainer in my garage and a few like

1031
00:50:00,387 --> 00:50:03,147
Speaker 7: the missus waite realite little things and just do a

1032
00:50:03,187 --> 00:50:06,307
Speaker 7: whole lot of high repetition stuff. But I was there

1033
00:50:06,507 --> 00:50:12,307
Speaker 7: one for weights anyway, not my cupathy, I thought, you know, no,

1034
00:50:12,547 --> 00:50:15,307
Speaker 7: I don't like gymsly went to gym. I only went

1035
00:50:15,347 --> 00:50:17,227
Speaker 7: to gyms because I got told I had to stuff

1036
00:50:18,147 --> 00:50:19,267
Speaker 7: as soon as I didn't have to.

1037
00:50:19,467 --> 00:50:20,267
Speaker 5: That was me done.

1038
00:50:21,107 --> 00:50:22,467
Speaker 2: What was it what you must have when you were

1039
00:50:22,507 --> 00:50:24,867
Speaker 2: playing league though over in the UK? That would have

1040
00:50:25,427 --> 00:50:26,827
Speaker 2: you had been in the gym a lot over there,

1041
00:50:26,827 --> 00:50:27,267
Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

1042
00:50:28,787 --> 00:50:30,227
Speaker 27: Uh Yeah, yeah I was.

1043
00:50:30,547 --> 00:50:32,387
Speaker 7: I had to be and I had a you know,

1044
00:50:33,147 --> 00:50:35,067
Speaker 7: I used to get pushed around by Shelford because I

1045
00:50:35,107 --> 00:50:38,827
Speaker 7: was cheeky all the time. So when I got to Wigan,

1046
00:50:40,587 --> 00:50:43,267
Speaker 7: Dean Bells, I remember him saying that you're pathetic when

1047
00:50:43,307 --> 00:50:45,107
Speaker 7: I when I when I first went into the gym,

1048
00:50:45,227 --> 00:50:48,547
Speaker 7: he said, you're pathetic, you're letting your country down. You

1049
00:50:48,707 --> 00:50:51,747
Speaker 7: need a help. So he took me under his wing

1050
00:50:51,827 --> 00:50:54,147
Speaker 7: and thrashed me in the gym so I could do

1051
00:50:54,267 --> 00:50:54,707
Speaker 7: it properly.

1052
00:50:55,467 --> 00:50:57,147
Speaker 2: Good man, Well, I'm glad you have a great You've

1053
00:50:57,147 --> 00:50:58,867
Speaker 2: had a great weekend. I'm sure the stories went long

1054
00:50:58,947 --> 00:51:00,867
Speaker 2: until last night, and that you made the game as well.

1055
00:51:01,067 --> 00:51:02,667
Speaker 2: A little bit of rain didn't keep you away from it.

1056
00:51:02,787 --> 00:51:05,467
Speaker 2: Great to chat to your mate, I mean, honestly, I remember,

1057
00:51:05,507 --> 00:51:07,547
Speaker 2: well those teams are the you know obviously baby Blacks

1058
00:51:07,547 --> 00:51:09,667
Speaker 2: and then into the late eighties and yeah, I think

1059
00:51:09,707 --> 00:51:11,187
Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted you to get more of

1060
00:51:11,227 --> 00:51:13,507
Speaker 2: a crack than you did in that ten jumper. But

1061
00:51:13,587 --> 00:51:15,307
Speaker 2: as you say, with Foxy there, it's a bit difficult,

1062
00:51:15,347 --> 00:51:17,147
Speaker 2: but yeah, fun memory.

1063
00:51:17,667 --> 00:51:20,067
Speaker 7: I always wish I'd got a little bit more as well,

1064
00:51:20,147 --> 00:51:20,587
Speaker 7: but you know.

1065
00:51:21,347 --> 00:51:21,947
Speaker 5: The way it goes.

1066
00:51:22,067 --> 00:51:25,707
Speaker 2: You just move on and good to chat to your Fronto.

1067
00:51:25,747 --> 00:51:28,627
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking our call mate. Cheers Bunny, all the

1068
00:51:28,667 --> 00:51:31,667
Speaker 2: best front of Bodica, the one and only. What a player, man,

1069
00:51:32,947 --> 00:51:35,987
Speaker 2: what a player. He kind of redefined first five play

1070
00:51:36,307 --> 00:51:39,147
Speaker 2: around that time, most first fives at that time. I'm

1071
00:51:39,147 --> 00:51:41,107
Speaker 2: not telling you anything you don't already know. We're like

1072
00:51:41,187 --> 00:51:45,187
Speaker 2: Grunt Fox, you know, and Grant Fox absolutely magnificent player,

1073
00:51:45,547 --> 00:51:47,147
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But Fronto was just a bit

1074
00:51:47,427 --> 00:51:49,867
Speaker 2: he was more. I guess it was the Carlos Spencer

1075
00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:53,187
Speaker 2: before Carlos Spencer came along. He you know, you just

1076
00:51:53,227 --> 00:51:55,667
Speaker 2: didn't know what he was going to do at first five.

1077
00:51:57,187 --> 00:51:58,987
Speaker 2: You know, he was as likely to run as he

1078
00:51:59,187 --> 00:52:02,907
Speaker 2: was to kick. If he saw something even a half chance,

1079
00:52:02,947 --> 00:52:05,987
Speaker 2: he'd go for it. An interesting We're not interested, not

1080
00:52:06,027 --> 00:52:08,507
Speaker 2: to surprise rising that he still thinks the same there is,

1081
00:52:08,547 --> 00:52:11,027
Speaker 2: you know, have it, have a go, have a crack.

1082
00:52:11,067 --> 00:52:13,667
Speaker 2: I know it's not always possible, but yeah, front of

1083
00:52:13,707 --> 00:52:17,107
Speaker 2: Bodkin one and only one seventeen. All right lines back open, Oh,

1084
00:52:17,107 --> 00:52:19,787
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We'll talk All Blacks

1085
00:52:19,867 --> 00:52:21,907
Speaker 2: rugby again for the next twenty minutes or so. James,

1086
00:52:21,947 --> 00:52:23,467
Speaker 2: we'rekin't of going to draw join us. We're going to

1087
00:52:23,507 --> 00:52:26,387
Speaker 2: shift across to Rugby League after two. So if you

1088
00:52:26,427 --> 00:52:29,627
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts across anything you saw last

1089
00:52:29,707 --> 00:52:31,627
Speaker 2: night that caught your eye, if you couldn't get through

1090
00:52:32,027 --> 00:52:34,307
Speaker 2: before one, we'd love you to give it a go now.

1091
00:52:34,547 --> 00:52:37,427
Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty whole hypotext coming through,

1092
00:52:37,467 --> 00:52:40,307
Speaker 2: which I'll get to too. I just wanted to acknowledge

1093
00:52:40,347 --> 00:52:44,067
Speaker 2: the Test debut last night of Kyle Preston, who came

1094
00:52:44,107 --> 00:52:46,747
Speaker 2: off the bench and became an All Black. I spoke

1095
00:52:46,827 --> 00:52:48,707
Speaker 2: briefly with Kyle after the game to see how he

1096
00:52:48,747 --> 00:52:52,667
Speaker 2: felt about being a member of the All Blacks club. Now, Yeah,

1097
00:52:52,747 --> 00:52:54,467
Speaker 2: pretty surreal to.

1098
00:52:54,547 --> 00:52:57,547
Speaker 28: Be in New Zealand, on home soil and up packed,

1099
00:52:57,587 --> 00:52:58,307
Speaker 28: Aden Parkers.

1100
00:52:58,347 --> 00:53:01,627
Speaker 2: It's pretty special house. Your week been, It's probably come

1101
00:53:01,747 --> 00:53:02,547
Speaker 2: quicker than you thought it.

1102
00:53:02,667 --> 00:53:02,827
Speaker 26: Mike.

1103
00:53:02,867 --> 00:53:05,827
Speaker 2: How's the week been for Kyle Preston? Yeah, for sure,

1104
00:53:05,867 --> 00:53:07,067
Speaker 2: definitely come pretty quick.

1105
00:53:08,147 --> 00:53:10,707
Speaker 28: But I knew how to stay ready regardless, So yeah,

1106
00:53:10,787 --> 00:53:14,227
Speaker 28: pretty special week. Loved every minute of it. And to

1107
00:53:14,307 --> 00:53:16,867
Speaker 28: get in a game time pretty cool.

1108
00:53:17,307 --> 00:53:18,867
Speaker 2: And you got out there. Did it go fast? What

1109
00:53:18,987 --> 00:53:20,347
Speaker 2: twelve minutes to fly by?

1110
00:53:21,347 --> 00:53:21,547
Speaker 29: Yeah?

1111
00:53:21,627 --> 00:53:24,027
Speaker 28: Oh the last five we're pretty slow to miss fair

1112
00:53:24,867 --> 00:53:27,067
Speaker 28: under the pump only seven points up.

1113
00:53:27,067 --> 00:53:31,307
Speaker 2: Not too comfortable. So it was good and well the

1114
00:53:31,387 --> 00:53:33,827
Speaker 2: first of were you hope many? But what's it been

1115
00:53:33,907 --> 00:53:36,147
Speaker 2: like inside the environment? Has there been a lot of

1116
00:53:36,187 --> 00:53:39,667
Speaker 2: support wrapped around you this week by these men alongside you? Yeah,

1117
00:53:39,747 --> 00:53:40,067
Speaker 2: for sure.

1118
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:44,027
Speaker 28: Everyone in those groups really willing to for me to

1119
00:53:44,067 --> 00:53:48,427
Speaker 28: ask questions and yeah, pretty much anything I need I

1120
00:53:48,507 --> 00:53:50,347
Speaker 28: can ask anyone and you're there to help.

1121
00:53:50,427 --> 00:53:53,467
Speaker 2: So yeah, everyone's pretty helpful. You were roofing a year

1122
00:53:53,547 --> 00:53:55,587
Speaker 2: ago out of here an even park in one of

1123
00:53:55,587 --> 00:53:57,547
Speaker 2: the biggest test matches. Man, congratulations, what a.

1124
00:53:57,587 --> 00:53:57,907
Speaker 24: Night for you.

1125
00:53:58,107 --> 00:53:58,827
Speaker 28: Yeah, chairs, thank you.

1126
00:53:59,027 --> 00:54:01,267
Speaker 2: That is Kyle Preston who became in All black last night.

1127
00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:03,587
Speaker 2: What a special night for him and his family. JOSEPHS.

1128
00:54:03,627 --> 00:54:04,947
Speaker 2: I went to the game last night. Pine. You've been

1129
00:54:04,947 --> 00:54:07,387
Speaker 2: to a few tarts here up in the UK and Island,

1130
00:54:07,427 --> 00:54:10,147
Speaker 2: but have to say it was a fantastic atmosphere. Sometimes

1131
00:54:10,187 --> 00:54:11,867
Speaker 2: here in New Zealand, it can be a head and miss,

1132
00:54:12,347 --> 00:54:13,867
Speaker 2: but the banter the build up to the match was

1133
00:54:13,907 --> 00:54:15,947
Speaker 2: top draw. Of course, the game was epic, but a

1134
00:54:15,987 --> 00:54:17,827
Speaker 2: shout out to all the spring Box supporters. They are

1135
00:54:17,907 --> 00:54:20,147
Speaker 2: great value and heaps are fun and it's how test

1136
00:54:20,187 --> 00:54:22,427
Speaker 2: matches should be. Joe, I could not agree more. And

1137
00:54:22,467 --> 00:54:26,787
Speaker 2: the South Africans I met yesterday were, without exception, just

1138
00:54:27,107 --> 00:54:31,907
Speaker 2: really good roosters, really good people who love rugby, love

1139
00:54:31,987 --> 00:54:34,107
Speaker 2: the all Blacks, love the spring Box, and love a

1140
00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:37,587
Speaker 2: battle between the two. Hello are you hello there?

1141
00:54:37,707 --> 00:54:38,987
Speaker 17: Jason? How are you today?

1142
00:54:39,107 --> 00:54:39,307
Speaker 5: Mate?

1143
00:54:39,307 --> 00:54:43,387
Speaker 17: I'm sorry I made a booboo a couple of weeks ago. Listen,

1144
00:54:44,587 --> 00:54:47,267
Speaker 17: I just wanted to say the game was really, really

1145
00:54:47,387 --> 00:54:51,147
Speaker 17: terrific last night. Made everything went well. You on the sideline,

1146
00:54:51,427 --> 00:54:54,627
Speaker 17: you build up to the game, everything just perfect. Your

1147
00:54:54,707 --> 00:54:57,907
Speaker 17: show is terrific, mate, I love it. I never stopped

1148
00:54:57,987 --> 00:55:01,307
Speaker 17: missing every Saturday that turned on the radio. Jason's on

1149
00:55:01,467 --> 00:55:03,827
Speaker 17: the thing and the game. As I say, with Ardie

1150
00:55:04,387 --> 00:55:08,147
Speaker 17: and one or two of the other players, Scott Barrett,

1151
00:55:08,347 --> 00:55:11,827
Speaker 17: they played well. I've always had a dig at Bowden

1152
00:55:12,147 --> 00:55:14,867
Speaker 17: because of his kicking and stuff, but he played a

1153
00:55:14,947 --> 00:55:18,347
Speaker 17: little different last night. And I enjoyed everything. Great show.

1154
00:55:18,707 --> 00:55:19,627
Speaker 17: Everything's terrific.

1155
00:55:19,747 --> 00:55:23,067
Speaker 2: Mate, good on ye and I don't remember a booboo

1156
00:55:23,107 --> 00:55:25,547
Speaker 2: you made mate, all views welcome on the showt that's

1157
00:55:25,587 --> 00:55:28,547
Speaker 2: what you're referring to, but no great to chat to.

1158
00:55:28,787 --> 00:55:32,467
Speaker 2: And I said to someone yesterday, I can't remember who

1159
00:55:32,467 --> 00:55:32,707
Speaker 2: it was.

1160
00:55:32,787 --> 00:55:32,907
Speaker 5: Not that.

1161
00:55:32,987 --> 00:55:34,867
Speaker 2: That's the important part of the story that I can't

1162
00:55:34,907 --> 00:55:38,467
Speaker 2: believe they let me do this job. I can't believe

1163
00:55:38,587 --> 00:55:43,747
Speaker 2: that they parked me up in a pub four hundred

1164
00:55:43,787 --> 00:55:46,427
Speaker 2: meters from Eden Park to do a build up to

1165
00:55:46,507 --> 00:55:49,427
Speaker 2: a Test match between the All Blacks and South Africa.

1166
00:55:50,547 --> 00:55:53,747
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if I told eight year old

1167
00:55:53,827 --> 00:55:55,587
Speaker 2: me that that's what I'd be doing, well, first of all,

1168
00:55:55,627 --> 00:55:56,987
Speaker 2: eight year old me wouldn't have known what I was

1169
00:55:57,027 --> 00:56:00,987
Speaker 2: talking about. But just feel so lucky, so fortunate to

1170
00:56:01,067 --> 00:56:02,787
Speaker 2: get the chance to do it where it shed twenty

1171
00:56:02,907 --> 00:56:06,507
Speaker 2: two again next weekend and Wellington ahead of Test two

1172
00:56:06,627 --> 00:56:09,747
Speaker 2: between the All Blacks and the spring Box. Yes, your

1173
00:56:09,747 --> 00:56:11,347
Speaker 2: pop down, George, come and say today.

1174
00:56:12,907 --> 00:56:13,307
Speaker 5: I think I.

1175
00:56:13,347 --> 00:56:16,547
Speaker 16: Certainly will piney after after last nights if it's in

1176
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:19,547
Speaker 16: hearing your show from from the Kingslander yesterday that was

1177
00:56:19,787 --> 00:56:20,427
Speaker 16: that was amazing.

1178
00:56:20,747 --> 00:56:21,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good fun.

1179
00:56:22,427 --> 00:56:25,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, definitely was. I know you had one hundred cools yesterday,

1180
00:56:25,227 --> 00:56:27,627
Speaker 16: but I was. I was one of them saying I

1181
00:56:27,667 --> 00:56:30,627
Speaker 16: couldn't see the All Blacks getting rolled last night and

1182
00:56:31,107 --> 00:56:34,387
Speaker 16: that mindset say that was just that was just brilliant.

1183
00:56:34,427 --> 00:56:36,827
Speaker 16: And you kind of compare that that intensity and that

1184
00:56:37,707 --> 00:56:41,427
Speaker 16: that mental attitude in the Argentina.

1185
00:56:40,947 --> 00:56:42,227
Speaker 9: Game and it and it is.

1186
00:56:43,147 --> 00:56:45,827
Speaker 16: It is leaps and bounds difference. I think the big

1187
00:56:45,947 --> 00:56:47,987
Speaker 16: challenge for the All Blacks now is how do they

1188
00:56:48,307 --> 00:56:51,947
Speaker 16: try and keep that level of mental prep consistent. I

1189
00:56:52,027 --> 00:56:54,467
Speaker 16: think in the in the last couple of years, the

1190
00:56:54,587 --> 00:56:57,187
Speaker 16: times and they had frustrated us is in the stakes

1191
00:56:57,187 --> 00:56:59,747
Speaker 16: are not as high, and they've put out some clunky

1192
00:56:59,867 --> 00:57:01,867
Speaker 16: performances and does feel like there's a bit of a

1193
00:57:02,707 --> 00:57:05,547
Speaker 16: bit of mental application there because you know, we've shine

1194
00:57:05,587 --> 00:57:09,147
Speaker 16: in the quarter five and last night in South Africa

1195
00:57:09,187 --> 00:57:11,467
Speaker 16: when Fozzy was under pressure that they can pull out

1196
00:57:11,507 --> 00:57:14,867
Speaker 16: these performances, and I guess the Jeressey does demand those

1197
00:57:14,907 --> 00:57:16,587
Speaker 16: week and week out, so it'll be great to see

1198
00:57:16,627 --> 00:57:18,067
Speaker 16: how they back it.

1199
00:57:18,107 --> 00:57:18,587
Speaker 5: Up this week.

1200
00:57:19,067 --> 00:57:21,147
Speaker 2: Great point, George, because I think last night was one

1201
00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:24,427
Speaker 2: of those, wasn't it. It was an occasion that demanded

1202
00:57:24,507 --> 00:57:26,987
Speaker 2: that performance from the All Blacks almost a force higher

1203
00:57:26,987 --> 00:57:30,707
Speaker 2: than themselves, you know, to just by any means possible

1204
00:57:30,867 --> 00:57:33,867
Speaker 2: and any way necessary, win the game of rugby. And

1205
00:57:34,347 --> 00:57:37,267
Speaker 2: you're right now. The very very intriguing part of this

1206
00:57:37,307 --> 00:57:39,067
Speaker 2: will be how they play next week. What are you

1207
00:57:39,147 --> 00:57:41,907
Speaker 2: thinking in terms of can you see any changes? You

1208
00:57:41,947 --> 00:57:44,427
Speaker 2: reckon they'll roll out pretty much the same fifteen and

1209
00:57:44,467 --> 00:57:47,227
Speaker 2: twenty three. I know another one might be under an

1210
00:57:47,227 --> 00:57:49,147
Speaker 2: injury cloud, and Nook, I think Cody Taylor as well

1211
00:57:49,187 --> 00:57:52,867
Speaker 2: with his hia might be might be under an injury cloud,

1212
00:57:52,947 --> 00:57:56,307
Speaker 2: but injuries aside. Do you expect a similar team next week?

1213
00:57:57,707 --> 00:57:57,947
Speaker 5: I do.

1214
00:57:58,307 --> 00:58:00,547
Speaker 16: I reckon they'll go very similar in the forward pack

1215
00:58:00,627 --> 00:58:04,507
Speaker 16: and Tubo Bay was outstanding, as was Simon Parker. I thought,

1216
00:58:05,187 --> 00:58:07,947
Speaker 16: I do probably see them moving Jordan to the wing.

1217
00:58:08,507 --> 00:58:12,747
Speaker 16: Just the options we have there, whether or not Rico

1218
00:58:12,827 --> 00:58:14,787
Speaker 16: gets another goal on the wing or Caleb Clark may

1219
00:58:14,867 --> 00:58:18,027
Speaker 16: well come in give him how he plays this weekend,

1220
00:58:18,107 --> 00:58:22,307
Speaker 16: I thought, you know, that's always another option there, But

1221
00:58:22,467 --> 00:58:26,067
Speaker 16: I do expect them to sort of a roll out

1222
00:58:26,107 --> 00:58:28,867
Speaker 16: a similar team and ask those guys to go again.

1223
00:58:28,907 --> 00:58:32,147
Speaker 16: Because that balance in the four pack was outstanding, and

1224
00:58:32,227 --> 00:58:34,427
Speaker 16: I know you've talked about Scotti, Barrett, but I thought

1225
00:58:34,507 --> 00:58:38,667
Speaker 16: Tupo v was just outstanding again last night and really

1226
00:58:38,787 --> 00:58:41,747
Speaker 16: just stepped it up and wasn't intimidated at all by

1227
00:58:41,827 --> 00:58:42,307
Speaker 16: the occasion.

1228
00:58:42,507 --> 00:58:45,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's become quite a player, hasn't eat two? Poor

1229
00:58:45,907 --> 00:58:47,707
Speaker 2: v All right, George, hay mate, if you're in an

1230
00:58:47,707 --> 00:58:51,507
Speaker 2: around that shared twenty two next week, if you need directions,

1231
00:58:51,587 --> 00:58:53,107
Speaker 2: just get in touch, mate, and I'll guide you in

1232
00:58:54,027 --> 00:58:55,907
Speaker 2: a very familiar with twenty two.

1233
00:58:56,107 --> 00:58:59,227
Speaker 16: Finey, don't you worry. So I may may well be

1234
00:58:59,307 --> 00:59:01,187
Speaker 16: seeing you down there. It should be in a great game,

1235
00:59:01,267 --> 00:59:04,627
Speaker 16: freedom cup on the line, so plenty to play for again, good.

1236
00:59:04,507 --> 00:59:07,107
Speaker 2: Man, George. I always love chatting, mate. Thanks vehicle to

1237
00:59:07,227 --> 00:59:09,987
Speaker 2: Paul Vai. What a presence, says Nick. I haven't seen

1238
00:59:10,067 --> 00:59:12,987
Speaker 2: that since Jerome Kinnor. The guy's a physical beast. Loves

1239
00:59:13,027 --> 00:59:16,067
Speaker 2: getting stuck into the Niggli rucks. How many turnovers did

1240
00:59:16,107 --> 00:59:18,387
Speaker 2: he have last night? How good bang on?

1241
00:59:18,507 --> 00:59:18,667
Speaker 5: Nick?

1242
00:59:18,787 --> 00:59:21,387
Speaker 2: And there was another text here from JERRR Jason. I

1243
00:59:21,507 --> 00:59:24,587
Speaker 2: loved the ecstasy on Tupaul Vai's face every time he

1244
00:59:24,667 --> 00:59:27,907
Speaker 2: got one over the opposition. He was loving it, by

1245
00:59:27,907 --> 00:59:30,307
Speaker 2: the way. I could never see the English or Australians

1246
00:59:30,347 --> 00:59:32,667
Speaker 2: making a presentation to an All Black on reaching one

1247
00:59:32,747 --> 00:59:33,307
Speaker 2: hundred tests.

1248
00:59:33,387 --> 00:59:33,547
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1249
00:59:33,867 --> 00:59:38,267
Speaker 2: Look, I think there's great respect for Artie Savia right

1250
00:59:38,307 --> 00:59:40,827
Speaker 2: around the rugby world, but particularly in South Africa. He

1251
00:59:40,907 --> 00:59:46,467
Speaker 2: and Sea Calisi are very very close and clearly hold

1252
00:59:46,507 --> 00:59:49,067
Speaker 2: each other in huge regard, and I think that permeates

1253
00:59:49,467 --> 00:59:52,267
Speaker 2: across the respect of rugby teams, even though they're not well.

1254
00:59:52,427 --> 00:59:54,467
Speaker 2: Artie's not captain of the All Black Sea wasn't captain

1255
00:59:54,507 --> 00:59:57,347
Speaker 2: last night, but I think there is a genuinely held

1256
00:59:57,467 --> 01:00:01,427
Speaker 2: respect across the two sets of players. And I believe too.

1257
01:00:01,467 --> 01:00:03,827
Speaker 2: And we've just talked about this across the two sets

1258
01:00:03,827 --> 01:00:09,507
Speaker 2: of fans. You know, there was Look, I wasn't everywhere

1259
01:00:09,587 --> 01:00:12,107
Speaker 2: last night, but there was. I didn't see a single

1260
01:00:12,187 --> 01:00:15,427
Speaker 2: bit of Agro, a single but there was a lot

1261
01:00:15,467 --> 01:00:17,867
Speaker 2: of friendly banter. When we were at the Kingslander yesterday

1262
01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:20,787
Speaker 2: there were All Blacks fans mixing and mingling with South

1263
01:00:20,827 --> 01:00:24,907
Speaker 2: African fans getting photos. It was it was just great.

1264
01:00:25,067 --> 01:00:29,147
Speaker 2: And so this rivalry is is so fierce on the field,

1265
01:00:29,827 --> 01:00:33,627
Speaker 2: but it is it's a connector of players and fans

1266
01:00:33,787 --> 01:00:36,667
Speaker 2: from both countries, and yeah, I just think that's brilliant

1267
01:00:37,067 --> 01:00:38,547
Speaker 2: one twenty six Goda Chris.

1268
01:00:39,587 --> 01:00:43,347
Speaker 15: Yeah, mate, you brought up a really good point. First,

1269
01:00:43,427 --> 01:00:46,267
Speaker 15: I wanted to say I really enjoyed the show leading

1270
01:00:46,347 --> 01:00:48,347
Speaker 15: up to the game that you put on when you

1271
01:00:48,507 --> 01:00:52,587
Speaker 15: talk to Bobby Skinstead and Joel Strensky. It gave in

1272
01:00:52,827 --> 01:00:56,987
Speaker 15: various other Shawn Firzspatrick, it gave us a little bit

1273
01:00:56,987 --> 01:00:59,787
Speaker 15: of inspite to how they're thinking and then you know

1274
01:01:00,147 --> 01:01:02,627
Speaker 15: how we want to go, and that built into the

1275
01:01:02,667 --> 01:01:07,027
Speaker 15: game beautifully. What I liked about the ten matches they

1276
01:01:07,147 --> 01:01:11,947
Speaker 15: played it so fierce both teams, but that niggle if

1277
01:01:11,947 --> 01:01:14,147
Speaker 15: you watch the Wallabies play against South Africa or US

1278
01:01:14,187 --> 01:01:17,307
Speaker 15: played against Argentina, there's always a push around, but it's

1279
01:01:17,347 --> 01:01:21,027
Speaker 15: almost as the two teams don't want to fight each

1280
01:01:21,067 --> 01:01:24,587
Speaker 15: other because we know we're too strong against each other.

1281
01:01:24,707 --> 01:01:26,907
Speaker 15: You don't want to be the one that makes the

1282
01:01:27,867 --> 01:01:33,587
Speaker 15: good relationship of your play the game fear. I enjoyed that.

1283
01:01:34,027 --> 01:01:35,707
Speaker 15: That was the best test I've seen them two three

1284
01:01:35,787 --> 01:01:37,947
Speaker 15: years from the All Blacks extensively.

1285
01:01:38,627 --> 01:01:39,707
Speaker 13: Oh my god, I had.

1286
01:01:39,667 --> 01:01:44,347
Speaker 15: Doubts after watching US play against Argentina and all of

1287
01:01:44,427 --> 01:01:47,867
Speaker 15: our guys don't their jersey to keep their jersey there's

1288
01:01:47,947 --> 01:01:51,427
Speaker 15: not one player I'd say, not swap him out. Everybody

1289
01:01:51,587 --> 01:01:55,827
Speaker 15: played well, so I was proud of the whole team

1290
01:01:55,987 --> 01:01:59,907
Speaker 15: and what they did yesterday that was a monster effort.

1291
01:02:01,267 --> 01:02:03,907
Speaker 2: Love it, Chris, great summary, mate, and yeah, I think

1292
01:02:03,947 --> 01:02:07,747
Speaker 2: you're right they No one wants to to bring this

1293
01:02:08,627 --> 01:02:12,467
Speaker 2: the storied history down. Really interesting comic yesterday. It seems

1294
01:02:12,467 --> 01:02:14,627
Speaker 2: so obvious, but a couple of the South African fans

1295
01:02:14,627 --> 01:02:17,227
Speaker 2: who stopped by yesterday at Kingslander. One of them said, look,

1296
01:02:17,267 --> 01:02:20,707
Speaker 2: we can play our best game and still lose to

1297
01:02:20,707 --> 01:02:24,267
Speaker 2: the All Blacks. That is how good the All Blacks are.

1298
01:02:24,387 --> 01:02:27,427
Speaker 2: And I think that the reversals is also true. The

1299
01:02:27,507 --> 01:02:29,907
Speaker 2: All Blacks could play their best game and still lose

1300
01:02:29,947 --> 01:02:32,987
Speaker 2: to South Africa. They are without a doubt. I know

1301
01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:36,587
Speaker 2: there'll be Irish fans and French fans and maybe the

1302
01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:40,827
Speaker 2: old Australian fan who have designs on the top of

1303
01:02:40,827 --> 01:02:43,747
Speaker 2: the rugby tree. But at the top of the rugby

1304
01:02:43,787 --> 01:02:46,867
Speaker 2: tree there are two teams and they were there at

1305
01:02:46,947 --> 01:02:49,667
Speaker 2: Eden Park last night one twenty eight. Mark and Ian,

1306
01:02:49,707 --> 01:02:51,507
Speaker 2: please hold with you right after the spare line, we'll

1307
01:02:51,507 --> 01:02:53,907
Speaker 2: talk rugby for a bit longer. James mcconey before two

1308
01:02:53,907 --> 01:02:54,747
Speaker 2: o'clock as well.

1309
01:02:55,107 --> 01:03:01,627
Speaker 1: One Crunch Cold Ngage Weekend Sports with Jason Tame and GJ. Gunderholmes,

1310
01:03:01,827 --> 01:03:03,627
Speaker 1: New Zealand's first trusted home builder.

1311
01:03:03,747 --> 01:03:05,947
Speaker 2: News Talk said be on i' thirty one, Runa says

1312
01:03:05,987 --> 01:03:08,467
Speaker 2: on text, so I can remember you almost pooh pooing

1313
01:03:08,587 --> 01:03:12,347
Speaker 2: the idea that you were broadcasting out of Emerson's when

1314
01:03:12,387 --> 01:03:15,347
Speaker 2: you did the test, and Anita Runa, I cannot remember

1315
01:03:16,027 --> 01:03:20,227
Speaker 2: poo pooing that at all. I absolutely loved it at Emerson's.

1316
01:03:20,907 --> 01:03:24,987
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, maybe you misheard, but no, I

1317
01:03:25,187 --> 01:03:28,587
Speaker 2: absolutely loved it down there as I have it shed

1318
01:03:28,627 --> 01:03:30,787
Speaker 2: twenty two hours I did at the Roaming Giant and

1319
01:03:30,867 --> 01:03:35,387
Speaker 2: Hamilton The King's Lander yesterday. These are wonderful places to

1320
01:03:35,787 --> 01:03:39,827
Speaker 2: radio shows from. I would never cast dispersions on on

1321
01:03:40,347 --> 01:03:44,907
Speaker 2: those fine establishments or the concept of doing a radio

1322
01:03:44,947 --> 01:03:45,507
Speaker 2: show from there.

1323
01:03:45,707 --> 01:03:49,667
Speaker 11: Mark, I mate, Hey, Piney, I get the feeling you're

1324
01:03:49,707 --> 01:03:51,987
Speaker 11: trying to do. We're broadcasting from tubs now, by the

1325
01:03:52,027 --> 01:03:52,787
Speaker 11: way you're pushing that.

1326
01:03:53,227 --> 01:03:55,147
Speaker 2: I think, even if there's not an all blacks test,

1327
01:03:55,227 --> 01:03:57,827
Speaker 2: maybe I just can't go and pack up somewhere.

1328
01:03:58,387 --> 01:04:01,347
Speaker 11: Every every weeknight on on the on ther show there

1329
01:04:01,387 --> 01:04:04,587
Speaker 11: in seven. Oh, where's Piney. I'll be at the pub.

1330
01:04:04,867 --> 01:04:06,347
Speaker 11: He'll be broadcasting from the park.

1331
01:04:06,427 --> 01:04:08,227
Speaker 5: U why not.

1332
01:04:10,627 --> 01:04:13,587
Speaker 11: Yesterday? I think for Razor you could see on his

1333
01:04:13,747 --> 01:04:16,427
Speaker 11: face that it was probably his most important win and

1334
01:04:16,467 --> 01:04:18,747
Speaker 11: it meant a lot to him. And it was really

1335
01:04:18,867 --> 01:04:23,627
Speaker 11: nice to see Russi when they got that late penalty

1336
01:04:23,707 --> 01:04:25,987
Speaker 11: and he just absolutely lost it because he knew that

1337
01:04:26,187 --> 01:04:28,307
Speaker 11: was I think that was pretty much their last chance.

1338
01:04:28,947 --> 01:04:29,827
Speaker 9: That was quite place.

1339
01:04:29,987 --> 01:04:33,747
Speaker 11: That was quite a priceless bit of year watching there.

1340
01:04:35,387 --> 01:04:38,307
Speaker 11: I thought d Mack at fullback was was actually really

1341
01:04:38,347 --> 01:04:40,707
Speaker 11: good for most of you know, for the whole game.

1342
01:04:40,787 --> 01:04:43,827
Speaker 11: I thought, I think maybe going forward that that maybe

1343
01:04:44,027 --> 01:04:48,267
Speaker 11: to be an option. I thought Finlay Christie was absolutely

1344
01:04:48,347 --> 01:04:51,147
Speaker 11: awesome to me, you know, it must have been hard

1345
01:04:51,187 --> 01:04:53,147
Speaker 11: for him being the fourth cab off the rank and

1346
01:04:53,347 --> 01:04:55,907
Speaker 11: the way he performed, you know, under that extreme pressure.

1347
01:04:56,467 --> 01:04:59,827
Speaker 11: To me, i'd have him as my second behind came Roy.

1348
01:04:59,907 --> 01:05:02,547
Speaker 11: God on, heaven's my second half back to be honest,

1349
01:05:02,587 --> 01:05:03,827
Speaker 11: I'm last night's performance.

1350
01:05:05,787 --> 01:05:09,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very interesting point mark because I think

1351
01:05:09,147 --> 01:05:11,347
Speaker 2: most people right at the start of the year, when

1352
01:05:11,507 --> 01:05:13,507
Speaker 2: when the three half backs were named as Roy, Guard

1353
01:05:14,507 --> 01:05:17,427
Speaker 2: MT and Hotham, everybody nodded their head. And I think

1354
01:05:17,467 --> 01:05:20,507
Speaker 2: if Christy had been in those three then people would

1355
01:05:20,507 --> 01:05:22,387
Speaker 2: have would have been ringing this radio show and saying,

1356
01:05:22,387 --> 01:05:24,467
Speaker 2: what's he doing there? But I think he you know,

1357
01:05:24,707 --> 01:05:27,907
Speaker 2: and he's a very unashuman guy, and maybe that's part

1358
01:05:27,947 --> 01:05:30,507
Speaker 2: of the secret. Last night, I thought, like you, I

1359
01:05:30,587 --> 01:05:32,147
Speaker 2: thought he was excellent, really good.

1360
01:05:33,147 --> 01:05:35,347
Speaker 11: It's a bit like Beaver, wasn't it getting getting the

1361
01:05:35,467 --> 01:05:37,907
Speaker 11: call up the Old Cup when he was off white mating,

1362
01:05:38,347 --> 01:05:40,547
Speaker 11: But I mean, yeah, no, I just thought he was terrific.

1363
01:05:40,627 --> 01:05:42,507
Speaker 11: And I mean every game he's played for All Black.

1364
01:05:42,547 --> 01:05:45,547
Speaker 11: So I think Christy he's really he's not he's not

1365
01:05:45,747 --> 01:05:47,867
Speaker 11: phased by and he just he seems to be able

1366
01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:50,667
Speaker 11: to perform under that pressure. And I think he outperformed

1367
01:05:50,707 --> 01:05:54,307
Speaker 11: as as opposite. No, I don't think Pollard. You know,

1368
01:05:54,347 --> 01:05:56,627
Speaker 11: there's a few players in the in the African team

1369
01:05:56,667 --> 01:05:58,787
Speaker 11: now who are going to be a little bit too

1370
01:05:58,827 --> 01:06:00,787
Speaker 11: old to me to get to the next World Cup,

1371
01:06:00,867 --> 01:06:03,187
Speaker 11: you know, and I think Pollard might not be the

1372
01:06:03,307 --> 01:06:06,467
Speaker 11: answer going forward to the next one. I thought he

1373
01:06:06,627 --> 01:06:08,827
Speaker 11: was like a little bit, yeah, he looked a bit

1374
01:06:08,947 --> 01:06:11,307
Speaker 11: tired here. I mean, he's a great kicker. He's probably

1375
01:06:11,347 --> 01:06:14,027
Speaker 11: still the best kicker in world rugby, but years a

1376
01:06:14,147 --> 01:06:15,907
Speaker 11: number ten. I don't know whether he's going to offer

1377
01:06:16,027 --> 01:06:16,787
Speaker 11: enough going forward.

1378
01:06:16,987 --> 01:06:19,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll have a decision to make or Rassie

1379
01:06:19,227 --> 01:06:22,427
Speaker 2: arrestmus Will and the others. Yeah, got on your mark.

1380
01:06:22,467 --> 01:06:24,707
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, thanks for calling. And I've left out the

1381
01:06:24,827 --> 01:06:28,707
Speaker 2: rock Pole. My colleague in christ Church, Nick Biorli, who

1382
01:06:29,067 --> 01:06:32,267
Speaker 2: presumably has shares in the place, has messaged me to say,

1383
01:06:32,307 --> 01:06:34,907
Speaker 2: don't forget the Rock pol where you're broadcast before the

1384
01:06:34,947 --> 01:06:37,987
Speaker 2: Super Rugby Final. Yes, I shouldn't forget that. What a place,

1385
01:06:39,107 --> 01:06:40,787
Speaker 2: greatest pub in christ Church.

1386
01:06:40,947 --> 01:06:46,907
Speaker 14: Helloeen, Hello pony. I just want to remind you used

1387
01:06:46,907 --> 01:06:49,627
Speaker 14: to I was one of the first to call up

1388
01:06:49,907 --> 01:06:53,067
Speaker 14: sort of thing. I would have thought you'd be hardy

1389
01:06:53,147 --> 01:06:56,907
Speaker 14: in your little hardy Holgare and perro there after the chill.

1390
01:07:00,267 --> 01:07:02,187
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't got back home yet and I'm still

1391
01:07:02,227 --> 01:07:05,547
Speaker 2: an autan. But no, I was actually funny enough made.

1392
01:07:05,587 --> 01:07:07,707
Speaker 2: I was thinking of you when I was checking that score,

1393
01:07:08,187 --> 01:07:10,187
Speaker 2: and I was thinking this isn't going very well for

1394
01:07:10,307 --> 01:07:12,827
Speaker 2: my Wellington lines, but going very well for your Hawk's

1395
01:07:12,867 --> 01:07:13,627
Speaker 2: Bay Magpies.

1396
01:07:14,387 --> 01:07:14,707
Speaker 7: Sorry.

1397
01:07:14,787 --> 01:07:18,227
Speaker 14: Mate, I couldn't help myself, but you know, it's a

1398
01:07:18,307 --> 01:07:22,067
Speaker 14: former Wellington and I was born in Breaden Miramar, you know,

1399
01:07:22,347 --> 01:07:24,267
Speaker 14: and all that sort of stuff. And I've played a

1400
01:07:24,307 --> 01:07:28,267
Speaker 14: lot of sport at poor Jury corns Parke of course, yes,

1401
01:07:28,907 --> 01:07:31,427
Speaker 14: but you know and I know you live it that

1402
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:34,587
Speaker 14: way and I was just thinking of you this morning,

1403
01:07:34,747 --> 01:07:39,067
Speaker 14: but I couldn't help myself. I'm very sorry Jace to

1404
01:07:39,187 --> 01:07:42,307
Speaker 14: say this, but we gave you such as the leaking

1405
01:07:42,427 --> 01:07:45,027
Speaker 14: us today. It was not funny and you have to

1406
01:07:45,107 --> 01:07:48,107
Speaker 14: go home tomorrow and go into your little hardy hole

1407
01:07:50,587 --> 01:07:53,947
Speaker 14: and say to these people were here to get better.

1408
01:07:55,147 --> 01:07:57,387
Speaker 2: And I love it, mate. Yeah, and don't you ever

1409
01:07:57,507 --> 01:07:59,987
Speaker 2: apologize for ringing up and saying stuff like this. This

1410
01:08:00,147 --> 01:08:04,227
Speaker 2: is what because you know that when Wellington played Hawks

1411
01:08:04,267 --> 01:08:06,547
Speaker 2: Bay next and Wellington ever when I'll be thinking of

1412
01:08:06,627 --> 01:08:08,467
Speaker 2: you and asking Andy to track down your phone number

1413
01:08:08,467 --> 01:08:12,227
Speaker 2: so I can send you a text. Absolutely please do

1414
01:08:13,587 --> 01:08:16,907
Speaker 2: love it mate, good to hear from you, Ian love it. Yeah,

1415
01:08:16,947 --> 01:08:20,947
Speaker 2: Hawk's Bay a big one over over Wellington yesterday. And

1416
01:08:21,027 --> 01:08:23,267
Speaker 2: let's not forget the shield. The shield changing hands up

1417
01:08:23,307 --> 01:08:25,627
Speaker 2: to christ yourtuld goes could be there for a while,

1418
01:08:25,747 --> 01:08:27,467
Speaker 2: or could be there for a week. Tasman having a

1419
01:08:27,547 --> 01:08:33,107
Speaker 2: crack next weekend. Hello, Ricardo, thy final you can hear

1420
01:08:33,147 --> 01:08:33,467
Speaker 2: me a case?

1421
01:08:33,587 --> 01:08:36,907
Speaker 14: Yeah, fine, mate, excellent, Okay, it's probably just me.

1422
01:08:36,987 --> 01:08:39,587
Speaker 24: I'll probably be the most hated. But I'm not convinced

1423
01:08:39,627 --> 01:08:40,427
Speaker 24: on that, Bully Proctor.

1424
01:08:41,307 --> 01:08:44,467
Speaker 19: I'm not convinced. I haven't been watching the Obrex for

1425
01:08:44,547 --> 01:08:46,987
Speaker 19: some time, but I just feel like we're missing a

1426
01:08:47,547 --> 01:08:52,427
Speaker 19: robust thirteen. Uh yeah, just to straighten up their back line.

1427
01:08:52,627 --> 01:08:54,547
Speaker 19: I was watching him. I haven't been watching for some

1428
01:08:54,747 --> 01:08:57,747
Speaker 19: time the All Blacks, but just watching him, he seems

1429
01:08:57,787 --> 01:08:59,507
Speaker 19: to sort of go missing and defense when it gets

1430
01:08:59,507 --> 01:09:01,587
Speaker 19: a bit physical. I think I think it's a bit

1431
01:09:01,667 --> 01:09:04,387
Speaker 19: lightweight that that recasement that came on. If you looked

1432
01:09:04,387 --> 01:09:06,027
Speaker 19: at us, try did you see how he straightened up

1433
01:09:06,027 --> 01:09:08,507
Speaker 19: their backing. He went straight through the middle when under

1434
01:09:08,507 --> 01:09:10,867
Speaker 19: the post. That's what we needed. We I don't know,

1435
01:09:11,067 --> 01:09:12,867
Speaker 19: it just hasn't been the same since they sort of

1436
01:09:13,267 --> 01:09:17,027
Speaker 19: a one who sort of Conrad Smith's sort of combination there. Yeah,

1437
01:09:17,107 --> 01:09:21,627
Speaker 19: and are missing missing their center, that twelve thirteen sort

1438
01:09:21,627 --> 01:09:24,747
Speaker 19: of robust sort of you know that that that that

1439
01:09:24,987 --> 01:09:28,547
Speaker 19: that center partnership they can just penetrate anytime they play

1440
01:09:28,627 --> 01:09:29,267
Speaker 19: any opposition.

1441
01:09:29,547 --> 01:09:31,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned Conrad Smith because he wasn't

1442
01:09:31,987 --> 01:09:33,787
Speaker 2: the biggest guy either, was he Riccardo? You know, the

1443
01:09:34,187 --> 01:09:37,107
Speaker 2: the bulk in that partnership was Martin Onu At twelve

1444
01:09:37,787 --> 01:09:39,667
Speaker 2: you go back to Walter Lull and Frank Bunce as well,

1445
01:09:39,667 --> 01:09:41,507
Speaker 2: and Duncey was. I mean, he's a gee, what a

1446
01:09:41,587 --> 01:09:44,747
Speaker 2: champion of a player he was. I like Billy Proctor,

1447
01:09:44,827 --> 01:09:46,867
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that they've given him a run of tests.

1448
01:09:47,147 --> 01:09:49,867
Speaker 2: But you're right, I don't think he's quite made the

1449
01:09:49,907 --> 01:09:52,907
Speaker 2: step from his excellent super rugby form yet into the

1450
01:09:52,987 --> 01:09:56,187
Speaker 2: All Blacks. I get the feeling they'll continue to give

1451
01:09:56,267 --> 01:10:00,027
Speaker 2: him opportunities. But yeah, look at you. It doesn't make you,

1452
01:10:00,267 --> 01:10:04,667
Speaker 2: It doesn't make you hated or even disliked. It's an

1453
01:10:04,707 --> 01:10:06,307
Speaker 2: opinion made and it's a valid one.

1454
01:10:07,987 --> 01:10:09,227
Speaker 18: Yeah, exactly, exactly that.

1455
01:10:09,347 --> 01:10:11,267
Speaker 19: I appreciate that, poney. Hey, one other thing I want

1456
01:10:11,267 --> 01:10:13,907
Speaker 19: to mention, how good was that moment when Ardie Savia

1457
01:10:14,867 --> 01:10:16,867
Speaker 19: I think it was a seventy eighth minute, Yeah, when

1458
01:10:16,907 --> 01:10:18,867
Speaker 19: he got their penalty for us? Oh was that a

1459
01:10:18,947 --> 01:10:22,947
Speaker 19: life paper or whatelievable wind me of mister mccawday's.

1460
01:10:22,627 --> 01:10:25,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, like a yeah, like a guy just

1461
01:10:25,307 --> 01:10:29,107
Speaker 2: emerging after a penalty one and just yeah, that was

1462
01:10:29,227 --> 01:10:32,507
Speaker 2: awesome man. And the problem was this, howth Evergon got

1463
01:10:32,547 --> 01:10:36,907
Speaker 2: the ball back, you know, and we had to have

1464
01:10:37,027 --> 01:10:39,147
Speaker 2: another sixty seconds of bloody heart jangling.

1465
01:10:40,147 --> 01:10:42,467
Speaker 24: Oh no, I know, but hey we got through, so

1466
01:10:42,587 --> 01:10:43,067
Speaker 24: that's a good thing.

1467
01:10:43,147 --> 01:10:46,227
Speaker 19: Yeah, we loved we we progressed to live another week.

1468
01:10:46,307 --> 01:10:47,827
Speaker 19: Yeah we do that, championship, we did.

1469
01:10:47,907 --> 01:10:50,627
Speaker 2: Ricardo. Great to t T mate. We got no problem

1470
01:10:50,667 --> 01:10:53,667
Speaker 2: with your reception. Call back anytime, my friend twenty one

1471
01:10:53,707 --> 01:10:55,507
Speaker 2: away from Turvice take a break. We'll come back and

1472
01:10:55,627 --> 01:10:58,107
Speaker 2: hear from James mcconey in his regular Sunday slider.

1473
01:10:59,427 --> 01:11:02,307
Speaker 1: You be the TMO, have yours say on eight hundred

1474
01:11:02,307 --> 01:11:06,107
Speaker 1: and eighty eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pyne and GJ

1475
01:11:06,627 --> 01:11:10,187
Speaker 1: n Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs, they'd.

1476
01:11:10,027 --> 01:11:12,467
Speaker 2: Be eighteen away from two, Ian says Piney. I've been

1477
01:11:12,507 --> 01:11:14,467
Speaker 2: to the last three games against the spring Box and

1478
01:11:14,547 --> 01:11:16,667
Speaker 2: lost them all. So last night it was great being

1479
01:11:16,707 --> 01:11:18,747
Speaker 2: in the crowd to see a hard fought victory. But

1480
01:11:18,787 --> 01:11:21,387
Speaker 2: the comments from other people about how great the Springbox

1481
01:11:21,387 --> 01:11:25,227
Speaker 2: supporters are are one hundred percent true. They're just passionate

1482
01:11:25,267 --> 01:11:28,627
Speaker 2: about their team, gracious in defeat and in victory role

1483
01:11:28,787 --> 01:11:33,107
Speaker 2: on Wellington. Thanks Ian. Yeah, at the risk of repeating

1484
01:11:33,787 --> 01:11:39,067
Speaker 2: the same thought, they love their team as much as

1485
01:11:39,107 --> 01:11:41,907
Speaker 2: we love ours, but they love playing against the All

1486
01:11:41,947 --> 01:11:44,427
Speaker 2: Blacks just as we love playing against the SPRINGBOKX. The

1487
01:11:44,507 --> 01:11:47,987
Speaker 2: atmosphere before, during, and I'm sure after the game was

1488
01:11:48,267 --> 01:11:51,267
Speaker 2: terrific between the two sets of fans. Big part of

1489
01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:53,867
Speaker 2: our Sundays is a chance sketch up with James mcconey,

1490
01:11:54,387 --> 01:11:58,947
Speaker 2: who was involved in the alternative commentary collective commentary of

1491
01:11:59,027 --> 01:12:01,547
Speaker 2: the game last night. I saw you up there, James,

1492
01:12:01,587 --> 01:12:04,027
Speaker 2: getting ready for the game. Were there any moments during

1493
01:12:04,107 --> 01:12:06,147
Speaker 2: the match when you got a bit nervous?

1494
01:12:07,147 --> 01:12:10,787
Speaker 13: I was packing myself throughout actually piney and the thing

1495
01:12:10,987 --> 01:12:14,107
Speaker 13: is what an atmosphere though. Credit to the South Africans

1496
01:12:14,187 --> 01:12:17,387
Speaker 13: of the North Shore for crossing the bridge and creating

1497
01:12:17,507 --> 01:12:20,907
Speaker 13: something special at Eden Park because it was awesome and

1498
01:12:21,027 --> 01:12:23,867
Speaker 13: even Malcolm Marx couldn't hear himself. You could tell he

1499
01:12:24,227 --> 01:12:27,107
Speaker 13: got a line out throw you borked, didn't he Yes,

1500
01:12:27,227 --> 01:12:27,987
Speaker 13: thanks to the crowd.

1501
01:12:28,227 --> 01:12:30,147
Speaker 2: They played their part, they did, and that you're right,

1502
01:12:30,227 --> 01:12:33,147
Speaker 2: there were so many of them, so many South African

1503
01:12:33,227 --> 01:12:35,827
Speaker 2: rugby jerseys in and around Eden Park before the game

1504
01:12:36,147 --> 01:12:39,347
Speaker 2: and obviously during the game as well, they weren't able

1505
01:12:39,387 --> 01:12:42,427
Speaker 2: to witness a victory. They did, though, watch the latest

1506
01:12:42,467 --> 01:12:45,947
Speaker 2: All Black centurion bring up his hundred, Artie Savian. It's

1507
01:12:46,027 --> 01:12:48,547
Speaker 2: kind of hard to find new words for Artie, isn't it.

1508
01:12:49,307 --> 01:12:52,467
Speaker 13: Honestly, when he came in to play first play for

1509
01:12:52,507 --> 01:12:55,387
Speaker 13: the All Blacks in twenty sixteen, I actually felt sorry

1510
01:12:55,427 --> 01:12:58,467
Speaker 13: for him because his brother was so good and you know,

1511
01:12:58,667 --> 01:13:00,987
Speaker 13: already a greater at the game that I thought, oh wow,

1512
01:13:01,067 --> 01:13:03,467
Speaker 13: what a tough fact to follow. Must be hard being

1513
01:13:03,547 --> 01:13:06,547
Speaker 13: the little Savier brother. And look at him now, our

1514
01:13:06,867 --> 01:13:10,587
Speaker 13: World Rugby player of the year, one hundred tests definitely

1515
01:13:10,707 --> 01:13:15,307
Speaker 13: Hall of Fame material in anyone's eyes. And the standards

1516
01:13:15,507 --> 01:13:19,627
Speaker 13: just so high and clutch with that turnover, yeah, just

1517
01:13:19,787 --> 01:13:22,707
Speaker 13: nothing but round to the cause for Artie. And wasn't

1518
01:13:22,707 --> 01:13:26,587
Speaker 13: it lovely seeing seea Calisi go over and give him

1519
01:13:26,587 --> 01:13:29,827
Speaker 13: a presentation and Hardie's daughter jump up in to see

1520
01:13:29,867 --> 01:13:33,427
Speaker 13: his arms. Uncle, seea that's so close.

1521
01:13:33,507 --> 01:13:36,907
Speaker 2: Yeah amazing. I thought that was really heartwarming moment as well.

1522
01:13:37,427 --> 01:13:40,307
Speaker 2: Three All Blacks tries last night all pretty good. Tries

1523
01:13:40,387 --> 01:13:40,987
Speaker 2: in their own way.

1524
01:13:41,867 --> 01:13:43,787
Speaker 13: That's exactly what I was wanting to talk about. It

1525
01:13:43,867 --> 01:13:47,427
Speaker 13: was just a money Nadawa. He's an assassin. You give

1526
01:13:47,507 --> 01:13:50,427
Speaker 13: him a stiff and he'll score. So it's sad that

1527
01:13:50,507 --> 01:13:52,467
Speaker 13: he got taken off, but wide a way to take

1528
01:13:52,507 --> 01:13:55,187
Speaker 13: that chance because it wasn't the perfect cross kick, but

1529
01:13:55,267 --> 01:13:57,947
Speaker 13: he turned it into that by taking it, and then

1530
01:13:58,307 --> 01:14:00,667
Speaker 13: as a dive it was a specky and then selling

1531
01:14:00,747 --> 01:14:04,067
Speaker 13: the dummy was the Titi the hands the inside ball

1532
01:14:04,507 --> 01:14:06,787
Speaker 13: to Will Jordan, a simple move off the line out

1533
01:14:06,827 --> 01:14:09,987
Speaker 13: perfectly executed. Everyone who plays rugby should have a similar

1534
01:14:10,067 --> 01:14:12,067
Speaker 13: move to that, and I'm sure people out there are

1535
01:14:12,107 --> 01:14:14,427
Speaker 13: going we do have a move like that. Well, that's

1536
01:14:14,507 --> 01:14:17,827
Speaker 13: exactly how you do it. And then Quintupaia his timing

1537
01:14:17,867 --> 01:14:22,467
Speaker 13: off Boaden Barrett was beautiful. Nice ball from body positioned

1538
01:14:22,507 --> 01:14:25,947
Speaker 13: them well, but to Pied just straightened so well that

1539
01:14:26,107 --> 01:14:28,987
Speaker 13: he broke about three or four tackles on the way

1540
01:14:29,027 --> 01:14:31,307
Speaker 13: to the line. And that's a clutch moment from a

1541
01:14:31,347 --> 01:14:32,907
Speaker 13: guy who's been through a lot of you know, he's

1542
01:14:32,907 --> 01:14:34,547
Speaker 13: been to helen back really with injuries.

1543
01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:39,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, just three terrific tries and you've named a

1544
01:14:39,827 --> 01:14:42,947
Speaker 2: number of players there, but who else saw who did

1545
01:14:43,067 --> 01:14:44,587
Speaker 2: really stand out for you last night?

1546
01:14:45,707 --> 01:14:49,467
Speaker 13: Well, I'd like to sing about numbers of five, six, seven, eight.

1547
01:14:51,627 --> 01:14:53,827
Speaker 2: I'm an a musical and to look it for that

1548
01:14:53,987 --> 01:14:55,747
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, they were all good, weren't they the

1549
01:14:56,067 --> 01:14:57,827
Speaker 2: smaller That was a couple of chiefs in there as well.

1550
01:14:58,587 --> 01:15:00,427
Speaker 13: Yeah that's a song by steps of course. What a

1551
01:15:00,787 --> 01:15:03,667
Speaker 13: banger it is, Yeah, I mean twoo by going back

1552
01:15:03,707 --> 01:15:07,947
Speaker 13: to Lock, he's undersize, right, he was up against two monsters.

1553
01:15:08,507 --> 01:15:12,187
Speaker 13: He was exceptional in the line outs, quite nice and

1554
01:15:12,307 --> 01:15:14,347
Speaker 13: light to lift as well to Bo but I'll tell

1555
01:15:14,387 --> 01:15:17,267
Speaker 13: you what he gets around, does the work. Simon Parker

1556
01:15:17,707 --> 01:15:21,547
Speaker 13: he had the toughest assignment to start his first test

1557
01:15:21,667 --> 01:15:25,707
Speaker 13: last week at eight and then and then was marking

1558
01:15:25,747 --> 01:15:28,307
Speaker 13: Peter Steph de Toy. I thought he was really great.

1559
01:15:28,347 --> 01:15:31,907
Speaker 13: But Artie and Wallace a tt just you know, just

1560
01:15:32,107 --> 01:15:35,987
Speaker 13: studying see that combination shine through because they haven't played

1561
01:15:36,227 --> 01:15:38,507
Speaker 13: a whole of the tests together due to a few

1562
01:15:38,587 --> 01:15:43,427
Speaker 13: things last year. But in those positions, in the seven

1563
01:15:43,467 --> 01:15:47,387
Speaker 13: and eight, but there's there's something exceptional there. But let's

1564
01:15:47,427 --> 01:15:51,427
Speaker 13: carry on the nine and le Christie, who was fantastic

1565
01:15:51,507 --> 01:15:54,467
Speaker 13: given that he's really just been called in and Cole Preston,

1566
01:15:54,627 --> 01:15:59,347
Speaker 13: you talk about tough half debuts, you almost have to

1567
01:15:59,427 --> 01:16:02,627
Speaker 13: go back to Gary Wetton and Steve Porketty making their

1568
01:16:02,707 --> 01:16:05,827
Speaker 13: debut in the flower Bomb Test in nineteen eighty one

1569
01:16:06,427 --> 01:16:09,227
Speaker 13: to say that Cayle Preston coming on and that pressure

1570
01:16:09,227 --> 01:16:10,547
Speaker 13: cooker of fantastic.

1571
01:16:10,627 --> 01:16:13,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thore he acquitted himself very very well. Indeed,

1572
01:16:13,547 --> 01:16:14,867
Speaker 2: a couple of other matters I want to get your

1573
01:16:14,947 --> 01:16:16,907
Speaker 2: views on. Are the Warriors. We know they're facing the

1574
01:16:16,987 --> 01:16:19,667
Speaker 2: Panthers in a knockout game next weekend. We don't know

1575
01:16:20,027 --> 01:16:21,907
Speaker 2: which day or what time yet, but we know we're

1576
01:16:21,947 --> 01:16:23,907
Speaker 2: facing the Panthers. Can we win this game?

1577
01:16:24,947 --> 01:16:25,987
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think we can.

1578
01:16:27,387 --> 01:16:30,347
Speaker 13: I severely doubt we will. But there's there's something that's

1579
01:16:30,627 --> 01:16:33,267
Speaker 13: really kind of daring about the Warriors, and that is

1580
01:16:33,467 --> 01:16:35,907
Speaker 13: what we saw in the Manley game. Is they don't

1581
01:16:35,907 --> 01:16:38,907
Speaker 13: allow teams to get away on them anymore. And the

1582
01:16:39,027 --> 01:16:42,227
Speaker 13: old Warriors would have let in forty points, you know,

1583
01:16:42,427 --> 01:16:46,787
Speaker 13: but this is a steely team, really organized, you know.

1584
01:16:47,427 --> 01:16:49,307
Speaker 13: Dare I say that they stick to their processes, but

1585
01:16:49,467 --> 01:16:53,467
Speaker 13: there is the expected there and I think, you know, Leka,

1586
01:16:54,187 --> 01:16:58,787
Speaker 13: he'll be fired up. There'll be even Valmona, who's pretty

1587
01:16:58,867 --> 01:17:02,867
Speaker 13: much coming as a youngster to shore up that pack.

1588
01:17:03,907 --> 01:17:06,467
Speaker 13: We'll get Jackson Ford back, I think from suspense and

1589
01:17:06,867 --> 01:17:08,907
Speaker 13: look at all is not lost. I just do worry

1590
01:17:08,987 --> 01:17:11,707
Speaker 13: that the Penerith Panther's you know, they're going to be

1591
01:17:11,747 --> 01:17:15,147
Speaker 13: at full strength and firing. That's the only issue.

1592
01:17:14,907 --> 01:17:16,787
Speaker 2: For you, Piney, Yes, same, I mean they are a

1593
01:17:16,827 --> 01:17:19,147
Speaker 2: good team. They are a good team. But as I've

1594
01:17:19,187 --> 01:17:21,867
Speaker 2: heard many people say on many occasions across the season,

1595
01:17:22,227 --> 01:17:25,107
Speaker 2: on their night, the Warriors can beat anybody. So I

1596
01:17:25,227 --> 01:17:28,107
Speaker 2: hope that night or day, whichever day or night it is,

1597
01:17:28,547 --> 01:17:30,987
Speaker 2: comes this weekend and then there's there's more to come

1598
01:17:31,027 --> 01:17:33,067
Speaker 2: obvious o after that. But I don't think we're favorite,

1599
01:17:33,107 --> 01:17:36,547
Speaker 2: absolutely not favorite. But funny things happen in knockout games,

1600
01:17:36,587 --> 01:17:39,347
Speaker 2: so let's let's see how it plays out. Hey, just

1601
01:17:39,387 --> 01:17:42,307
Speaker 2: to finish NFL seasons underway, high excitement in my house.

1602
01:17:42,387 --> 01:17:43,987
Speaker 2: My son absolutely loves the NFL.

1603
01:17:44,707 --> 01:17:47,107
Speaker 13: You're a big fan, I am, well, who did your

1604
01:17:47,147 --> 01:17:47,747
Speaker 13: son support?

1605
01:17:47,867 --> 01:17:50,187
Speaker 2: He supports the Minnesota Vikings.

1606
01:17:51,187 --> 01:17:56,547
Speaker 13: Nice, Yes, David Dixon Porci's finalists. We've got his DNAV.

1607
01:17:56,787 --> 01:17:59,747
Speaker 13: I think Read Ellison played there as well another Kiwi,

1608
01:18:00,547 --> 01:18:03,707
Speaker 13: So that's that's very cool. I'm a Detroit Lions fan,

1609
01:18:03,827 --> 01:18:07,987
Speaker 13: long suffering Detroit Lions fan, and and even though we've

1610
01:18:07,987 --> 01:18:11,587
Speaker 13: gone quite well with our big rooted up coach, it

1611
01:18:11,747 --> 01:18:14,787
Speaker 13: does seem a little bit thought. But I did notice

1612
01:18:14,787 --> 01:18:17,747
Speaker 13: the other day just seeing Justin Herbert and the and

1613
01:18:17,827 --> 01:18:22,067
Speaker 13: the LA Chargers beat the Kansas City chief Sir Patrick

1614
01:18:22,147 --> 01:18:25,067
Speaker 13: Mahomes and Travis Galcy just shows that, you know, teams,

1615
01:18:25,107 --> 01:18:26,587
Speaker 13: if you can get it right on the day, you

1616
01:18:26,627 --> 01:18:29,027
Speaker 13: can beat the big names. Although I feel like the

1617
01:18:29,107 --> 01:18:32,107
Speaker 13: storyline with Travis getting engaged may have been, you know,

1618
01:18:32,227 --> 01:18:34,867
Speaker 13: to Taylor Swift that that is obviously one of the

1619
01:18:34,907 --> 01:18:38,827
Speaker 13: big focuses, but pretty much just copying what Peter Alertini

1620
01:18:38,907 --> 01:18:41,827
Speaker 13: did with Megan Cassy from True Bliss. But hey, you know,

1621
01:18:42,347 --> 01:18:46,147
Speaker 13: all power to them. But yeah, I think NFL is

1622
01:18:46,227 --> 01:18:48,387
Speaker 13: just a great way if you can, if you can

1623
01:18:48,507 --> 01:18:51,107
Speaker 13: rig it on you with your work on a Monday morning,

1624
01:18:52,027 --> 01:18:54,707
Speaker 13: watching Red Zone is probably one of the best ways

1625
01:18:54,787 --> 01:18:56,587
Speaker 13: to take.

1626
01:18:56,427 --> 01:18:57,107
Speaker 5: In the UFL.

1627
01:18:57,587 --> 01:18:59,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my son will be finding a reason

1628
01:18:59,907 --> 01:19:03,147
Speaker 2: to ditch school on Monday morning for Red Zone. He's

1629
01:19:03,467 --> 01:19:06,627
Speaker 2: he's highly excited about it all James Away. It's good

1630
01:19:06,627 --> 01:19:08,307
Speaker 2: to chat. We're gonna go out with a but more

1631
01:19:08,347 --> 01:19:11,947
Speaker 2: of this banger five six seven eight from Steps. Thanks

1632
01:19:11,947 --> 01:19:14,747
Speaker 2: for joining us as always. Happy Father's Day, mate, cheers

1633
01:19:14,787 --> 01:19:17,427
Speaker 2: my happy Father's by you and all the days the cheers.

1634
01:19:23,587 --> 01:19:23,787
Speaker 16: Day.

1635
01:19:27,907 --> 01:19:44,507
Speaker 2: Thank you five six seven hourday, thank you five six seven.

1636
01:19:46,787 --> 01:19:49,027
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1637
01:19:49,227 --> 01:19:52,347
Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty weekends.

1638
01:19:52,707 --> 01:19:56,267
Speaker 4: Jason talk me got to the backline this time, Boat,

1639
01:19:56,307 --> 01:20:00,867
Speaker 4: I'm parent on the right hand side print apartment Thurday,

1640
01:20:01,867 --> 01:20:02,507
Speaker 4: Oh back.

1641
01:20:02,587 --> 01:20:07,587
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's Quinta Pia. I think well close to

1642
01:20:07,627 --> 01:20:10,147
Speaker 2: weissing it anyway. For the All Blacks, scoring the third

1643
01:20:10,187 --> 01:20:12,467
Speaker 2: of their three tries last night. After the game, of course,

1644
01:20:12,827 --> 01:20:15,907
Speaker 2: Artie Savis celebrated by the crowd in attendance for his

1645
01:20:16,787 --> 01:20:19,467
Speaker 2: one hundredth Test match. I spoke shortly after that celebration

1646
01:20:19,627 --> 01:20:22,387
Speaker 2: with a guy who's been alongside him for pretty much

1647
01:20:22,427 --> 01:20:24,907
Speaker 2: all of them, Boden Barrett, to check on well to

1648
01:20:25,427 --> 01:20:28,147
Speaker 2: assess Ardie Savier's influence on the All Blacks.

1649
01:20:28,307 --> 01:20:32,067
Speaker 30: Oh, he's a hard and soul of this team. Gosh,

1650
01:20:32,787 --> 01:20:36,427
Speaker 30: he's such a humble champion. Like the way he goes

1651
01:20:36,467 --> 01:20:40,947
Speaker 30: about his business. He's so quiet, calm composed, but he's

1652
01:20:40,987 --> 01:20:44,707
Speaker 30: got better worry about him and we just love playing

1653
01:20:44,787 --> 01:20:49,867
Speaker 30: with him because we know what he does for this

1654
01:20:49,947 --> 01:20:53,227
Speaker 30: team through his efforts and his actions. So yeah, to

1655
01:20:53,667 --> 01:20:56,387
Speaker 30: put this performance in for him tonight and for him

1656
01:20:56,467 --> 01:20:59,867
Speaker 30: to get that turnover at the end, it was very fitting.

1657
01:21:00,707 --> 01:21:03,347
Speaker 30: Even though the box had a couple of opportunities after that.

1658
01:21:03,547 --> 01:21:06,267
Speaker 30: We didn't quite close it then, but yeah, special man.

1659
01:21:06,347 --> 01:21:09,347
Speaker 2: And at the other end of the spectrum, Cole Preston

1660
01:21:09,387 --> 01:21:11,867
Speaker 2: becomes the latest All Black and he's got a bit

1661
01:21:11,907 --> 01:21:13,427
Speaker 2: of media to do as well. It must be nice

1662
01:21:13,427 --> 01:21:14,787
Speaker 2: to welcome a new member into the club.

1663
01:21:14,867 --> 01:21:18,827
Speaker 30: Absolutely, KP has been an absolute champion, Like just been

1664
01:21:18,907 --> 01:21:22,987
Speaker 30: really impressed with his diligence as I guess, willingness to

1665
01:21:23,827 --> 01:21:28,747
Speaker 30: learn and grow and just get better. His attitude is

1666
01:21:28,827 --> 01:21:31,307
Speaker 30: second to none. So I'm sure it's the first of many.

1667
01:21:31,707 --> 01:21:34,347
Speaker 2: And there was some test match. Called them test matches,

1668
01:21:34,347 --> 01:21:36,347
Speaker 2: don't they It's been a massive build up. How did

1669
01:21:36,387 --> 01:21:38,507
Speaker 2: you managed to not play the test match before tonight

1670
01:21:38,587 --> 01:21:40,747
Speaker 2: across such a hyphe double week man.

1671
01:21:41,627 --> 01:21:43,587
Speaker 30: Hang last week and the week off I played it

1672
01:21:43,867 --> 01:21:48,187
Speaker 30: ten times at least this week we could train and

1673
01:21:48,827 --> 01:21:53,587
Speaker 30: channel our emotions and energy, but you nailed it. Like

1674
01:21:53,667 --> 01:21:55,667
Speaker 30: you can't play it on a Tuesday or Thursday. You

1675
01:21:55,787 --> 01:21:57,547
Speaker 30: could just got to keep that not in your gut

1676
01:21:58,027 --> 01:22:01,307
Speaker 30: throughout the week. And gosh, there's all sorts of emotions

1677
01:22:01,387 --> 01:22:04,627
Speaker 30: going through all of us this week, all sorts of

1678
01:22:04,707 --> 01:22:10,787
Speaker 30: thoughts and yes, that's what it really takes to prepare

1679
01:22:11,027 --> 01:22:14,867
Speaker 30: bone deep and that genuinely I guess it leads to

1680
01:22:14,947 --> 01:22:18,347
Speaker 30: the performance which wasn't perfect, but we got the job done.

1681
01:22:18,627 --> 01:22:21,307
Speaker 2: Congratulations, see you in Wellington. Thanks very much, Piney, We'll go.

1682
01:22:21,507 --> 01:22:24,067
Speaker 2: That's Bodenbarrat. I spoke too shortly after the final whistle

1683
01:22:24,347 --> 01:22:26,787
Speaker 2: last night, far away from two. Thanks for your calls,

1684
01:22:26,867 --> 01:22:30,107
Speaker 2: your correspondence, your thoughts on the All Blacks spring box.

1685
01:22:30,147 --> 01:22:33,587
Speaker 2: We'll do it all again next weekend Test two between

1686
01:22:33,627 --> 01:22:36,667
Speaker 2: the two at Sky Stadium in Wellington. Will build up

1687
01:22:36,667 --> 01:22:39,507
Speaker 2: towards the game during Weekend Sport on Saturday Live from

1688
01:22:39,547 --> 01:22:41,667
Speaker 2: Shed twenty two and our build up of the game

1689
01:22:41,707 --> 01:22:45,227
Speaker 2: itself from six o'clock. Elliot Smith and Ross Bond with

1690
01:22:45,307 --> 01:22:47,947
Speaker 2: the call next Saturday night. We're going to pivot across

1691
01:22:48,027 --> 01:22:50,267
Speaker 2: to rugby league after two. We haven't mentioned the Warrior

1692
01:22:50,267 --> 01:22:52,907
Speaker 2: as much this weekend. We now know they are facing

1693
01:22:52,987 --> 01:22:57,787
Speaker 2: the Panthers next weekend in an elimination final. Can we

1694
01:22:57,867 --> 01:22:59,987
Speaker 2: beat the Panthers? Can we beat the Panthers?

1695
01:23:01,707 --> 01:23:04,547
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1696
01:23:05,027 --> 01:23:08,387
Speaker 1: and after field, HiT's all on Win James Sport with

1697
01:23:08,627 --> 01:23:13,307
Speaker 1: Jason Vaine on your home of Sports Talk.

1698
01:23:14,267 --> 01:23:16,427
Speaker 2: Two o seven. Thanks for joining us on Weekend Sport.

1699
01:23:16,427 --> 01:23:18,867
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine with Any McDonald producing the show. We're

1700
01:23:18,907 --> 01:23:21,747
Speaker 2: here for another hour than Tim Beveridge with the Sunday

1701
01:23:21,907 --> 01:23:24,627
Speaker 2: edition of the Weekend Collective. He's beavering away out there

1702
01:23:25,467 --> 01:23:28,267
Speaker 2: getting an award winning show together, no doubt. Before we

1703
01:23:28,307 --> 01:23:30,587
Speaker 2: can hand the mic over, did you know that there

1704
01:23:30,627 --> 01:23:34,187
Speaker 2: are two Keyweeks who have qualified for the World Long

1705
01:23:34,347 --> 01:23:38,227
Speaker 2: Drive Golf Championship and the US later on this month.

1706
01:23:40,027 --> 01:23:41,267
Speaker 2: One of them is going to join us. His name

1707
01:23:41,307 --> 01:23:45,267
Speaker 2: is Chris Charleston. What do you have to do and

1708
01:23:45,387 --> 01:23:47,307
Speaker 2: how far he up hit the thing? If you're going

1709
01:23:47,387 --> 01:23:50,827
Speaker 2: to be in with a chance, so the World Long

1710
01:23:50,947 --> 01:23:54,787
Speaker 2: Drive Golf Championship KIWI participants or one of them, Chris Charleston,

1711
01:23:55,507 --> 01:23:57,627
Speaker 2: this hour, we're going to get you to the US

1712
01:23:57,707 --> 01:24:02,227
Speaker 2: as well. The new NFL season is underway. This is

1713
01:24:02,987 --> 01:24:06,987
Speaker 2: American football, of course. Bill Barnwell out of EUN going

1714
01:24:07,067 --> 01:24:10,147
Speaker 2: to preview the season for US. Can I talk some

1715
01:24:10,227 --> 01:24:13,707
Speaker 2: Warriors as well? Willy Poaching standing by average, had to us.

1716
01:24:13,747 --> 01:24:17,427
Speaker 2: We know the Warriors will host the Panthers and an

1717
01:24:17,507 --> 01:24:21,747
Speaker 2: elimination final next weekend. We don't yet have clarity about

1718
01:24:22,027 --> 01:24:25,827
Speaker 2: which day and what time kickoff will be. There's been

1719
01:24:25,907 --> 01:24:28,947
Speaker 2: some mail around it. It could be Sunday, which I

1720
01:24:28,987 --> 01:24:32,467
Speaker 2: think would suit a lot of us with the All

1721
01:24:32,507 --> 01:24:34,787
Speaker 2: Blacks taking up most of Saturday night. Be a shame

1722
01:24:34,827 --> 01:24:37,147
Speaker 2: if the Warriors clashed with the All Blacks, with most

1723
01:24:37,187 --> 01:24:41,827
Speaker 2: people wanting probably to watch both anyway, Willy poaching on

1724
01:24:42,187 --> 01:24:44,427
Speaker 2: our chances of beating the Panthers whenever it might be,

1725
01:24:45,187 --> 01:24:48,427
Speaker 2: in any elimination final and going through to the next

1726
01:24:48,507 --> 01:24:50,387
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs. Your thoughts on that are welcome

1727
01:24:50,427 --> 01:24:54,867
Speaker 2: as well. Off back to back losses, dear back the

1728
01:24:54,907 --> 01:24:58,787
Speaker 2: Warriors to clean that slate and just start afresh, start

1729
01:24:58,787 --> 01:25:04,267
Speaker 2: a new season, almost a knockout tournament of sorts. We

1730
01:25:04,347 --> 01:25:06,307
Speaker 2: can get to that as well. Your cause and correspondence,

1731
01:25:06,387 --> 01:25:08,067
Speaker 2: of course, continue to be welcome. Oh eight one hundred

1732
01:25:08,067 --> 01:25:10,827
Speaker 2: and eighty ten nineteen nine till one text emails to

1733
01:25:10,907 --> 01:25:13,267
Speaker 2: Jason a news talk saidb dot co dot Nz. But

1734
01:25:13,827 --> 01:25:16,427
Speaker 2: it is a bumper edition we have prepared for you

1735
01:25:17,467 --> 01:25:20,867
Speaker 2: of in case you missed it. This is some of

1736
01:25:20,907 --> 01:25:22,867
Speaker 2: the stuff that may have escaped your attention with so

1737
01:25:23,027 --> 01:25:27,387
Speaker 2: much going on at the moment. The Panthers the aforementioned

1738
01:25:27,907 --> 01:25:30,747
Speaker 2: booking that trip to Auckland with a forty twenty one

1739
01:25:30,827 --> 01:25:33,347
Speaker 2: over the Dragons yesterday, I've got one more.

1740
01:25:33,427 --> 01:25:38,547
Speaker 31: Jack comes back to Cleary Lensy Smith he threaded the

1741
01:25:38,627 --> 01:25:43,267
Speaker 31: needle there, Nathan clearing another tit assist with the great

1742
01:25:43,387 --> 01:25:47,907
Speaker 31: halfback of Lensey Smith who crashes in for another one

1743
01:25:48,027 --> 01:25:48,587
Speaker 31: for Penry.

1744
01:25:48,827 --> 01:25:51,347
Speaker 2: Meantime, the Titans came from behind to meet the Tigers

1745
01:25:51,587 --> 01:25:52,347
Speaker 2: barrels out to.

1746
01:25:52,427 --> 01:26:09,547
Speaker 32: Four fo Yeah, but these have cuen our second half part.

1747
01:26:09,947 --> 01:26:12,107
Speaker 2: So it's all on the line this afternoon for Annie

1748
01:26:12,147 --> 01:26:15,867
Speaker 2: McDonald's Newcastle Knights to try and avoid the Wooden spoon.

1749
01:26:16,307 --> 01:26:19,427
Speaker 2: The Sharks have found some form entering the finals with

1750
01:26:19,507 --> 01:26:21,947
Speaker 2: a threshing of the Bulldogs Who's Hines.

1751
01:26:22,587 --> 01:26:27,667
Speaker 3: Sitis it up, Ratchardson cut up ball, Granella's away back

1752
01:26:27,747 --> 01:26:30,027
Speaker 3: inside and Jets.

1753
01:26:29,947 --> 01:26:35,427
Speaker 2: Scores for Granella. They flick a switch and off they

1754
01:26:35,587 --> 01:26:38,627
Speaker 2: go to the Women's Rugby World Cup. A big win

1755
01:26:38,707 --> 01:26:41,387
Speaker 2: for the United States over somewhat has given them something

1756
01:26:41,427 --> 01:26:44,027
Speaker 2: to smile about as their tournament ends. That was maya

1757
01:26:44,147 --> 01:26:45,707
Speaker 2: learned on our World Cup debut.

1758
01:26:46,187 --> 01:26:48,747
Speaker 7: Still driving and still score.

1759
01:26:51,307 --> 01:26:57,627
Speaker 33: The USA Eagles, playing at fourteen, are up to fifty tints.

1760
01:26:58,267 --> 01:27:02,107
Speaker 2: England, though, have romped expectedly so into the quarterfinals, where

1761
01:27:02,107 --> 01:27:05,867
Speaker 2: a dominant win over Australia Billi good tackle, wooden support.

1762
01:27:07,187 --> 01:27:12,867
Speaker 31: Shortball in England's second effort Sarah Burn fastootball down in

1763
01:27:13,027 --> 01:27:14,947
Speaker 31: England forty five.

1764
01:27:15,067 --> 01:27:18,787
Speaker 2: The score and history for Fiji as they extend Welsh

1765
01:27:18,867 --> 01:27:21,107
Speaker 2: rugby's misery to the women's side as well.

1766
01:27:21,307 --> 01:27:27,147
Speaker 29: That's one of surprises of Tina suff isolated return moments

1767
01:27:27,627 --> 01:27:31,067
Speaker 29: Joseph in the other She's been stepping up for Fiji

1768
01:27:31,187 --> 01:27:32,027
Speaker 29: this entire day.

1769
01:27:35,827 --> 01:27:39,107
Speaker 25: Fiji only one what match a.

1770
01:27:39,347 --> 01:27:40,827
Speaker 2: Woman's rugby role cuts.

1771
01:27:41,067 --> 01:27:42,307
Speaker 25: They have beaten.

1772
01:27:43,467 --> 01:27:45,227
Speaker 29: One of the sixth.

1773
01:27:45,027 --> 01:27:48,987
Speaker 2: Nations sides to domestic rugby here in the NPC and

1774
01:27:49,067 --> 01:27:51,467
Speaker 2: impress of when for Manawatu I a white cuttle.

1775
01:27:51,467 --> 01:27:54,587
Speaker 31: Solid scrum from Manawatu here Bill Youwan comes around on

1776
01:27:54,627 --> 01:27:57,067
Speaker 31: the other side now They come out in the back.

1777
01:27:56,907 --> 01:27:57,627
Speaker 14: Door to Drew.

1778
01:27:57,707 --> 01:27:58,747
Speaker 2: Wa whaw step it.

1779
01:27:58,827 --> 01:28:01,867
Speaker 27: True true wah time manaware.

1780
01:28:01,467 --> 01:28:05,307
Speaker 2: Too, Hawks Bay putting wellings into the sword. What a battler,

1781
01:28:05,387 --> 01:28:09,307
Speaker 2: What a tanta? As tarsips goes high, Howks based out

1782
01:28:09,387 --> 01:28:12,387
Speaker 2: the driving ball. They look at a crass close very

1783
01:28:12,467 --> 01:28:15,787
Speaker 2: close here over the lad Love Score and Canterbury have

1784
01:28:15,827 --> 01:28:18,827
Speaker 2: taken the Ramphilly Shield back up to christ Church with them.

1785
01:28:18,987 --> 01:28:23,627
Speaker 2: Oh not just said McLeod's got it. McLeod is gonna score.

1786
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:27,747
Speaker 31: Trying to write four red and black and they hit fifty.

1787
01:28:28,387 --> 01:28:30,307
Speaker 2: Just the short tenure for South one. Then to the

1788
01:28:30,427 --> 01:28:33,707
Speaker 2: US Tennis Open Arena. Sabalanca has gone back to back

1789
01:28:33,947 --> 01:28:36,987
Speaker 2: in the women's singles, a straight sets win over Amanda

1790
01:28:37,147 --> 01:28:42,667
Speaker 2: and Samova. Yeah, sat like it, pass through.

1791
01:28:42,907 --> 01:28:44,867
Speaker 8: The cloud fifteen.

1792
01:28:47,227 --> 01:28:48,187
Speaker 12: In street sets.

1793
01:28:48,827 --> 01:28:52,227
Speaker 2: After all of the emotions she felt losing the first

1794
01:28:52,667 --> 01:28:56,507
Speaker 2: three majors of the year, she was composed, assured, richly

1795
01:28:56,627 --> 01:29:00,187
Speaker 2: deserved win and finally to the Rugby Championship, the Wallaby

1796
01:29:00,267 --> 01:29:02,907
Speaker 2: showing nerves of steel to pull off a late win

1797
01:29:03,107 --> 01:29:07,787
Speaker 2: over Argentina in Townsville. It trickles through the Lenston Mainal.

1798
01:29:09,627 --> 01:29:12,147
Speaker 2: It's your teut, It's no and there with him you

1799
01:29:12,227 --> 01:29:12,547
Speaker 2: get to.

1800
01:29:18,627 --> 01:29:19,387
Speaker 7: Have they hit.

1801
01:29:19,507 --> 01:29:20,427
Speaker 17: The jack.

1802
01:29:24,467 --> 01:29:30,307
Speaker 2: Is waiting, Tzel is ready town till.

1803
01:29:32,787 --> 01:29:35,427
Speaker 1: The scoos from the track fields and the court on

1804
01:29:35,587 --> 01:29:38,027
Speaker 1: your homes Sport weekend Sport with.

1805
01:29:38,307 --> 01:29:42,587
Speaker 2: Jason thirteen minutes past to the Warriors opponent in the

1806
01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:46,067
Speaker 2: first round of the NRL playoffs has been confirmed. They

1807
01:29:46,067 --> 01:29:49,987
Speaker 2: will play the Penrith Panthers in an elimination final at

1808
01:29:50,067 --> 01:29:53,027
Speaker 2: go Media Stadium next weekend, just repeating the day and

1809
01:29:53,187 --> 01:29:56,947
Speaker 2: time yet to be confirmed. There are reports of a

1810
01:29:57,067 --> 01:29:59,987
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon game to avoid clashing with the All Blacks

1811
01:30:00,347 --> 01:30:04,347
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Quite how often and how strictly the

1812
01:30:04,507 --> 01:30:07,347
Speaker 2: NRL look at these sorts of things, I guesses entirely

1813
01:30:07,467 --> 01:30:08,787
Speaker 2: over to them, but it'd be nice to think that

1814
01:30:08,867 --> 01:30:11,827
Speaker 2: they could get a game on the Sunday afternoon perhaps

1815
01:30:12,187 --> 01:30:16,027
Speaker 2: which has been reported in a couple of outlets online,

1816
01:30:16,587 --> 01:30:18,947
Speaker 2: and avoid the All Blacks on a Saturday night. Regardless,

1817
01:30:18,947 --> 01:30:20,987
Speaker 2: there's going to be a big, big test for the

1818
01:30:21,067 --> 01:30:24,907
Speaker 2: Warriors as the four time defending champion Penrith Panthers come

1819
01:30:24,947 --> 01:30:28,107
Speaker 2: to town. Former Warrior our Skysport Rugby League analyst Willy

1820
01:30:28,147 --> 01:30:31,427
Speaker 2: Poaching is with us. Willy this is a tough draw

1821
01:30:31,507 --> 01:30:33,347
Speaker 2: for the Warriors, there's no getting away from it. But

1822
01:30:33,547 --> 01:30:34,987
Speaker 2: at the stage of the season, I guess there are

1823
01:30:35,027 --> 01:30:38,187
Speaker 2: no easy games as we go into the top eight.

1824
01:30:38,507 --> 01:30:42,147
Speaker 2: In general terms, how do you evaluate the Warriors' ability

1825
01:30:42,707 --> 01:30:44,587
Speaker 2: to beat the Panthers next weekend?

1826
01:30:46,027 --> 01:30:48,947
Speaker 5: Well, they have an ability and that's the thing to

1827
01:30:49,027 --> 01:30:51,987
Speaker 5: start with. They have a chance to beat them. And yeah,

1828
01:30:51,987 --> 01:30:55,667
Speaker 5: it's a tough proposition to go against the reigning champions

1829
01:30:55,787 --> 01:30:58,987
Speaker 5: or chasing five titles in a row, but it's an

1830
01:30:59,027 --> 01:31:02,827
Speaker 5: exciting challenge at the same time. And by the same time,

1831
01:31:02,987 --> 01:31:04,987
Speaker 5: it's a tough challenge for the Panthers to come over

1832
01:31:05,067 --> 01:31:08,707
Speaker 5: here to or to take on the Warriors in their background,

1833
01:31:09,187 --> 01:31:12,107
Speaker 5: who are desperate, who are hungry, their backs against the wall.

1834
01:31:12,467 --> 01:31:15,627
Speaker 5: I just see the Warriors come out with both gloves

1835
01:31:15,667 --> 01:31:16,787
Speaker 5: up fighting all the way through.

1836
01:31:17,307 --> 01:31:20,627
Speaker 2: Are the Panthers a slightly less intimidating opponent than they

1837
01:31:20,707 --> 01:31:22,147
Speaker 2: have been in the last few years.

1838
01:31:24,947 --> 01:31:26,707
Speaker 5: When you look at the troubles that they had at

1839
01:31:26,747 --> 01:31:30,707
Speaker 5: the start of the season, and you know what just

1840
01:31:30,827 --> 01:31:32,947
Speaker 5: comes through what they have of experience, And you can't

1841
01:31:33,027 --> 01:31:36,187
Speaker 5: discount for any of that, especially at this time of year,

1842
01:31:37,147 --> 01:31:40,227
Speaker 5: their experience that doing the right things and getting ready

1843
01:31:40,587 --> 01:31:42,747
Speaker 5: at the right time. The coach gave them all the

1844
01:31:42,827 --> 01:31:46,067
Speaker 5: rest a couple of weeks ago, so they're freshened up

1845
01:31:46,107 --> 01:31:48,627
Speaker 5: a little bit and they're focused, but I think they're

1846
01:31:48,627 --> 01:31:51,267
Speaker 5: probe I think it's a great opportunity for the Warriors

1847
01:31:51,587 --> 01:31:53,187
Speaker 5: to turn things around. Next week.

1848
01:31:53,547 --> 01:31:55,307
Speaker 2: The Warriors come into the finals off the back of

1849
01:31:55,507 --> 01:31:57,387
Speaker 2: back to back defeats to the Eels and the Sea

1850
01:31:57,427 --> 01:32:00,387
Speaker 2: Eagles to finish their irregular season. Well, how easily can

1851
01:32:00,667 --> 01:32:02,947
Speaker 2: can that be put to one side and a clean

1852
01:32:03,107 --> 01:32:05,267
Speaker 2: slate applied for the finals.

1853
01:32:08,027 --> 01:32:11,107
Speaker 5: I was thinking about this after the loss on the

1854
01:32:11,147 --> 01:32:15,187
Speaker 5: weekend and now some of the stuff that was mentioned

1855
01:32:15,787 --> 01:32:19,147
Speaker 5: by us on Sky but also by Kirk Cape, well

1856
01:32:19,187 --> 01:32:22,467
Speaker 5: after the game. It's a new competition now the slate

1857
01:32:22,667 --> 01:32:26,147
Speaker 5: is clean and both things come to it's do or die,

1858
01:32:26,947 --> 01:32:29,147
Speaker 5: and the focus is just that when you're a player,

1859
01:32:29,227 --> 01:32:32,147
Speaker 5: you turn up on Monday and knowing that, okay, it's

1860
01:32:32,267 --> 01:32:35,067
Speaker 5: all or nothing now. So they'll will be a big

1861
01:32:35,147 --> 01:32:39,427
Speaker 5: focus in training going into this week. Session knows what's

1862
01:32:39,547 --> 01:32:42,187
Speaker 5: needed at this time of year as much as the

1863
01:32:42,227 --> 01:32:44,867
Speaker 5: opposition does. I think the guys will be ready and

1864
01:32:44,987 --> 01:32:48,667
Speaker 5: pumped the things to fix up technically, it's the errors.

1865
01:32:48,867 --> 01:32:50,867
Speaker 5: It's just the simple errors for them. It was the

1866
01:32:50,907 --> 01:32:54,987
Speaker 5: same against Paramatter and the same last week. So if

1867
01:32:55,027 --> 01:32:57,547
Speaker 5: they can dignify that, hold the ball, especially for a

1868
01:32:57,587 --> 01:33:02,507
Speaker 5: team that's prided itself so much on completing high they're

1869
01:33:02,707 --> 01:33:06,187
Speaker 5: just losing moments and opportunities to put the under put

1870
01:33:06,347 --> 01:33:09,227
Speaker 5: in opposition under pressure. So they can do that this week.

1871
01:33:09,507 --> 01:33:12,307
Speaker 5: Secure the ball, control the ball, control the game.

1872
01:33:12,987 --> 01:33:15,147
Speaker 2: Elimination of errors. Is that coachable?

1873
01:33:15,387 --> 01:33:15,547
Speaker 5: Well?

1874
01:33:15,587 --> 01:33:20,147
Speaker 2: He can you coach elimination of those of those errors there?

1875
01:33:20,227 --> 01:33:20,507
Speaker 27: You can?

1876
01:33:20,827 --> 01:33:23,147
Speaker 5: You can, And that's going to be a focus by

1877
01:33:23,227 --> 01:33:26,187
Speaker 5: the coach and whether that's just mere words but practice,

1878
01:33:26,267 --> 01:33:29,067
Speaker 5: and it's also an element of concentration and personal pride,

1879
01:33:30,027 --> 01:33:33,867
Speaker 5: and some of it is fundamentals. I'm knocking on at

1880
01:33:33,947 --> 01:33:37,907
Speaker 5: dummy half and simple catching of the ball as James

1881
01:33:37,947 --> 01:33:40,027
Speaker 5: f Sha Harris had and I'm not trying to point

1882
01:33:40,107 --> 01:33:45,707
Speaker 5: him out, but just those little moments, just be focused.

1883
01:33:45,747 --> 01:33:47,947
Speaker 5: As I said, they'll turn up on Monday ready switched

1884
01:33:47,987 --> 01:33:50,187
Speaker 5: on to go that I'll go into the game, whether

1885
01:33:50,267 --> 01:33:53,067
Speaker 5: that's Saturday or Sunday night. Sunday night, I'll be perfect.

1886
01:33:53,987 --> 01:33:56,067
Speaker 5: Gives them another day to build up and get themselves

1887
01:33:56,827 --> 01:33:57,667
Speaker 5: primed and ready to go.

1888
01:33:58,147 --> 01:34:00,107
Speaker 2: You mentioned James Fashaharis. There are a couple of times,

1889
01:34:00,227 --> 01:34:03,347
Speaker 2: nine seasons and all that success at the Panthers, and

1890
01:34:03,387 --> 01:34:05,507
Speaker 2: here he is in his first season the Warriors and

1891
01:34:05,587 --> 01:34:07,787
Speaker 2: he's facing the pan Does in his first knockout game

1892
01:34:07,827 --> 01:34:09,627
Speaker 2: for his new club. How do you reckon he'd be

1893
01:34:09,667 --> 01:34:12,347
Speaker 2: feeling pump pump.

1894
01:34:12,907 --> 01:34:15,507
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a competitor. Yeah, he's you know, he's the

1895
01:34:15,587 --> 01:34:17,987
Speaker 5: leader of this group and he's thriving on it to

1896
01:34:18,147 --> 01:34:20,587
Speaker 5: helping pump ready to go. As soon as he won

1897
01:34:20,627 --> 01:34:25,347
Speaker 5: that Grand Final last week last year, his association with

1898
01:34:25,427 --> 01:34:27,387
Speaker 5: the Panthers was done. He was all focused on the

1899
01:34:27,467 --> 01:34:31,187
Speaker 5: Warriors getting ready to go. Yeah, he's going to be

1900
01:34:31,227 --> 01:34:34,187
Speaker 5: a truly inspirational character. And that dressing this week like

1901
01:34:34,267 --> 01:34:35,227
Speaker 5: he has done little seasons.

1902
01:34:35,467 --> 01:34:38,587
Speaker 2: We saw rocke Berry go afinger the other night. Don't

1903
01:34:38,627 --> 01:34:40,707
Speaker 2: know any any more about whether he'll be okay for

1904
01:34:40,787 --> 01:34:43,427
Speaker 2: this weekend. He's had a rotten run with injuries for

1905
01:34:43,547 --> 01:34:46,467
Speaker 2: years out. How big a blow is that for the Warriors?

1906
01:34:47,307 --> 01:34:51,227
Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't look good, as you said, no official

1907
01:34:51,267 --> 01:34:54,307
Speaker 5: word about what injury it is and how significant it is.

1908
01:34:54,467 --> 01:34:56,747
Speaker 5: So now I think of the cross, but he's just yeah,

1909
01:34:56,747 --> 01:34:59,667
Speaker 5: he's had a tough time of it in twenty twenty five.

1910
01:35:01,067 --> 01:35:04,147
Speaker 5: It started in twenty twenty four and the season got

1911
01:35:04,227 --> 01:35:08,147
Speaker 5: played the start of it anyway, and yeah he's able

1912
01:35:08,187 --> 01:35:11,027
Speaker 5: to string three games together and then bang it goes again.

1913
01:35:11,147 --> 01:35:14,507
Speaker 5: So yeah, she'll be hoping that this year for him

1914
01:35:14,667 --> 01:35:18,147
Speaker 5: is just an anomaly. He gets a good preseason under

1915
01:35:18,147 --> 01:35:20,107
Speaker 5: his gets strong and healthy and come back. But he

1916
01:35:20,267 --> 01:35:22,587
Speaker 5: is a loss. He's a loss to that side and

1917
01:35:23,947 --> 01:35:27,507
Speaker 5: whoever they chuck in that position. And you know, the

1918
01:35:27,587 --> 01:35:29,587
Speaker 5: good thing is a couple of players have had a

1919
01:35:29,667 --> 01:35:31,987
Speaker 5: chance to be in that spot on the field for

1920
01:35:32,027 --> 01:35:35,587
Speaker 5: the Warriors this season, so there won't be unfamiliarity to

1921
01:35:35,707 --> 01:35:36,667
Speaker 5: whoever he puts in there.

1922
01:35:36,867 --> 01:35:38,867
Speaker 2: And on the plus side, I think Jackson Ford's available

1923
01:35:38,867 --> 01:35:41,427
Speaker 2: again after his suspension. So that's a boost, isn't it

1924
01:35:41,507 --> 01:35:42,667
Speaker 2: having Jackson Ford back there?

1925
01:35:43,307 --> 01:35:46,627
Speaker 5: Oh? Massively? Yeah, it sounds like him and Jacob Laban

1926
01:35:46,667 --> 01:35:50,427
Speaker 5: will we sit again, So a couple of extra bodies

1927
01:35:50,507 --> 01:35:52,387
Speaker 5: for the coach to pick from. But Jackson Ford or

1928
01:35:52,867 --> 01:35:54,827
Speaker 5: he's been great and then he played some long minutes

1929
01:35:54,867 --> 01:35:57,867
Speaker 5: and quality minutes for the Warriors when he's been out

1930
01:35:57,907 --> 01:36:01,747
Speaker 5: there again. He's had a moment to freshen up, get

1931
01:36:01,867 --> 01:36:05,387
Speaker 5: himself ready and writing and fast and steady to go

1932
01:36:05,547 --> 01:36:08,947
Speaker 5: for this week. You'll have some punch through that middles

1933
01:36:09,027 --> 01:36:09,867
Speaker 5: James Fisher House.

1934
01:36:10,147 --> 01:36:12,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we wait to see when and what time

1935
01:36:12,907 --> 01:36:14,627
Speaker 2: this game will be. We know they're facing the Panthers.

1936
01:36:14,667 --> 01:36:16,907
Speaker 2: Will find out when very soon. Will you always good

1937
01:36:16,947 --> 01:36:17,947
Speaker 2: to get your analysis, mate.

1938
01:36:17,867 --> 01:36:20,347
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, Thanks mate, thanks having us.

1939
01:36:20,427 --> 01:36:24,147
Speaker 2: No, thanks for joining us. Willy Willy poaching there part

1940
01:36:24,187 --> 01:36:28,187
Speaker 2: of the Sky Sport Rugby League team. So there are

1941
01:36:28,187 --> 01:36:30,067
Speaker 2: two games to go in the regular season, the Dolphins

1942
01:36:30,107 --> 01:36:32,387
Speaker 2: against the Raiders at four o'clock this afternoon, then the

1943
01:36:32,507 --> 01:36:35,867
Speaker 2: Eels against the Knights to finish. The results of those

1944
01:36:35,947 --> 01:36:38,467
Speaker 2: games will have no bearing on the table. The top

1945
01:36:38,587 --> 01:36:43,267
Speaker 2: eight is already decided, meaning that the first round of

1946
01:36:43,307 --> 01:36:47,987
Speaker 2: the finals is locked in again. We don't know when

1947
01:36:48,307 --> 01:36:50,027
Speaker 2: each of these games will we played, but we do

1948
01:36:50,267 --> 01:36:55,027
Speaker 2: know the four matchups in the qualifying finals. These are

1949
01:36:55,067 --> 01:36:58,427
Speaker 2: the ones which involve the top four sides. It'll be Raiders,

1950
01:36:58,507 --> 01:37:02,507
Speaker 2: Broncos and Storm Bulldogs. The winners will go through. The

1951
01:37:02,627 --> 01:37:09,947
Speaker 2: losers will play the winners of the elimination finals. Sharks Roosters, Warriors, Panthers,

1952
01:37:10,827 --> 01:37:13,147
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at some early odds for all of

1953
01:37:13,187 --> 01:37:16,787
Speaker 2: these games, and in all four the Warriors are the

1954
01:37:16,907 --> 01:37:21,307
Speaker 2: biggest outsider at the moment. They're paying three dollars ten

1955
01:37:21,467 --> 01:37:23,987
Speaker 2: to beat the Panthers, the Panthers paying a dollar thirty eight.

1956
01:37:24,787 --> 01:37:28,147
Speaker 2: This game will be at go Media Stadium, huge crowd

1957
01:37:28,267 --> 01:37:33,027
Speaker 2: in coming, massive weight of support behind the Warriors. You

1958
01:37:33,147 --> 01:37:36,387
Speaker 2: absolutely would not put it past them. It hasn't been

1959
01:37:36,427 --> 01:37:39,147
Speaker 2: the season of twenty twenty three where there was high

1960
01:37:39,227 --> 01:37:42,307
Speaker 2: consistency across the season and the Warriors went into the

1961
01:37:42,387 --> 01:37:45,627
Speaker 2: finals with confidence high. They're coming off the back of

1962
01:37:45,987 --> 01:37:49,707
Speaker 2: back to back defeats to the Eels and to Manly,

1963
01:37:49,907 --> 01:37:52,827
Speaker 2: neither of who will feature in the top eight. So

1964
01:37:52,987 --> 01:37:55,307
Speaker 2: you can probably understand why the bookies don't give them

1965
01:37:56,147 --> 01:37:58,387
Speaker 2: as much of a chance against the Panthers. But funny

1966
01:37:58,427 --> 01:38:02,547
Speaker 2: things happen in knockout games of sport, not just rugby league,

1967
01:38:03,427 --> 01:38:05,867
Speaker 2: all sport. What chance do you give them? We can

1968
01:38:05,907 --> 01:38:08,587
Speaker 2: take couple of calls, oh, eight hundred eighty, ten eighty

1969
01:38:08,707 --> 01:38:11,307
Speaker 2: if you want to give us your levels of optimism

1970
01:38:11,467 --> 01:38:15,267
Speaker 2: or otherwise for the Warriors. Have they just elongated their season?

1971
01:38:15,387 --> 01:38:18,707
Speaker 2: By one week or can they get past the Panthers

1972
01:38:18,747 --> 01:38:22,107
Speaker 2: and surprise a lot of people and come up against

1973
01:38:22,307 --> 01:38:24,387
Speaker 2: one of the top four sides who drops out of

1974
01:38:24,427 --> 01:38:27,867
Speaker 2: the qualifying finals. Be keen to know? Give you oh,

1975
01:38:27,907 --> 01:38:30,067
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number nine

1976
01:38:30,107 --> 01:38:32,027
Speaker 2: two nine two if you would prefer to text it

1977
01:38:32,107 --> 01:38:34,707
Speaker 2: through two twenty two back in a second weekend Sport

1978
01:38:35,507 --> 01:38:37,307
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game.

1979
01:38:37,667 --> 01:38:42,347
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Fine and TJ Gunnomes New Zealand's

1980
01:38:42,347 --> 01:38:43,467
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

1981
01:38:43,627 --> 01:38:47,067
Speaker 2: News Talks NB News Talks AB are two twenty five

1982
01:38:47,267 --> 01:38:49,427
Speaker 2: updating you on some live sport. The Chatham Cup finals

1983
01:38:49,467 --> 01:38:51,627
Speaker 2: on at the moment at North Shore or at Albany

1984
01:38:51,707 --> 01:38:54,827
Speaker 2: Stadium on the north Shore of Auckland. It's Auckland United

1985
01:38:55,187 --> 01:38:57,867
Speaker 2: up against Wellington Olympic, who are the defending champions, looking

1986
01:38:57,907 --> 01:38:59,987
Speaker 2: to go back to back and doing a pretty good

1987
01:39:00,027 --> 01:39:02,747
Speaker 2: job of at Wellington Olympics. Sixty four minutes gone and

1988
01:39:02,907 --> 01:39:05,707
Speaker 2: they lead three to one over Auckland United. To the

1989
01:39:05,747 --> 01:39:09,427
Speaker 2: Bunnings end they have plenty five to three ahead of

1990
01:39:09,547 --> 01:39:11,467
Speaker 2: Taranaki after twenty minutes. I had a look at the

1991
01:39:11,627 --> 01:39:14,987
Speaker 2: MPC table and I was shocked to see Otago in second.

1992
01:39:15,707 --> 01:39:18,267
Speaker 2: Otago was second in the NPC. I don't know how

1993
01:39:18,307 --> 01:39:21,587
Speaker 2: that escaped my attention. So well done to Otago. Tasman

1994
01:39:21,747 --> 01:39:24,707
Speaker 2: take on Auckland a little bit later on this afternoon

1995
01:39:24,947 --> 01:39:28,067
Speaker 2: Farah Palmer Cup action. There's a game in Blenham at

1996
01:39:28,107 --> 01:39:30,987
Speaker 2: the moment Tasman against North Harbor and Tasman ahead by

1997
01:39:31,467 --> 01:39:34,547
Speaker 2: five points to nil after twenty minutes. There and also

1998
01:39:35,227 --> 01:39:39,947
Speaker 2: international men's rugby the Pacific Nations Cup. The USA up

1999
01:39:39,987 --> 01:39:44,107
Speaker 2: against Japan at the moment in California thirty three fourteen.

2000
01:39:44,187 --> 01:39:47,107
Speaker 2: Japan lead the USA early in the second half of

2001
01:39:47,227 --> 01:39:51,387
Speaker 2: that one. Two kiwis have qualified for the World Long

2002
01:39:51,587 --> 01:39:55,587
Speaker 2: Drive Championships and the US later on this month. They

2003
01:39:55,627 --> 01:39:59,467
Speaker 2: are Chris Charlton and his training partner George Wardell. Chris

2004
01:39:59,587 --> 01:40:03,387
Speaker 2: Chilton is with US. Chris, congratulations on qualification. What did

2005
01:40:03,467 --> 01:40:06,547
Speaker 2: you have to do to qualify for the work Old

2006
01:40:06,787 --> 01:40:08,507
Speaker 2: Long Drive Golf Championship.

2007
01:40:10,027 --> 01:40:14,307
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's so sport itself is pretty simple. Basically, stand

2008
01:40:14,387 --> 01:40:17,947
Speaker 27: up there, You've got two and a half minutes. Me

2009
01:40:18,027 --> 01:40:19,907
Speaker 27: and you head against each other, so we both hit

2010
01:40:19,947 --> 01:40:22,387
Speaker 27: six spores each and whoever hits the longest ball wins.

2011
01:40:23,427 --> 01:40:27,147
Speaker 27: So sport itself is pretty simple. You sort of have

2012
01:40:27,267 --> 01:40:29,267
Speaker 27: to work within I guess a parameter. You can't just

2013
01:40:29,347 --> 01:40:32,347
Speaker 27: hit it anywhere. Kind of what most users would think

2014
01:40:32,427 --> 01:40:34,467
Speaker 27: is sort of a typical golf feel way is kind.

2015
01:40:34,307 --> 01:40:37,707
Speaker 9: Of the width of the of the grid. But yeah,

2016
01:40:37,747 --> 01:40:41,547
Speaker 9: sports pretty simple. In terms of getting to Worlds.

2017
01:40:41,587 --> 01:40:44,947
Speaker 27: I was fortunate enough Golf Australia had a couple of

2018
01:40:45,027 --> 01:40:47,827
Speaker 27: tickets to the World Champs on off as part of

2019
01:40:48,067 --> 01:40:51,107
Speaker 27: a series that they run over summer, and I was

2020
01:40:51,147 --> 01:40:56,067
Speaker 27: fortunate enough to win the Australian PGA Championship, which is

2021
01:40:56,147 --> 01:40:59,267
Speaker 27: sort of held in conjunction with the actual Australian PGA

2022
01:41:00,427 --> 01:41:03,067
Speaker 27: over in Brisbane. So fortunate enough to win that and

2023
01:41:03,507 --> 01:41:06,187
Speaker 27: obviously secure ticket to Worlds, which is super exciting.

2024
01:41:06,507 --> 01:41:09,267
Speaker 2: So you talked about going head to head with another competitor.

2025
01:41:09,347 --> 01:41:12,227
Speaker 2: How many rounds of that are there before the final?

2026
01:41:14,187 --> 01:41:17,227
Speaker 9: So in the States it'll be it'll be about four.

2027
01:41:18,707 --> 01:41:21,427
Speaker 27: Four rounds as far as I know the formats, So

2028
01:41:21,507 --> 01:41:24,947
Speaker 27: you run in groups of sixteen and basically you do

2029
01:41:25,187 --> 01:41:27,707
Speaker 27: five rounds, which is thirty four so five sets or

2030
01:41:27,747 --> 01:41:30,827
Speaker 27: six and you get a points system and then the top.

2031
01:41:30,707 --> 01:41:33,107
Speaker 9: Eight produced through the next round, so you do.

2032
01:41:33,587 --> 01:41:36,867
Speaker 27: I think it's five qualifying rounds and then after that

2033
01:41:37,027 --> 01:41:41,827
Speaker 27: you go into knockouts, and knockouts is typically quarterfinals, semi final, final.

2034
01:41:42,147 --> 01:41:44,627
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Is it where it lands or where it stops?

2035
01:41:46,307 --> 01:41:50,547
Speaker 27: It's where it stops, so you can't actually it has

2036
01:41:50,587 --> 01:41:52,987
Speaker 27: to stay in the grid the whole time. It can't

2037
01:41:53,027 --> 01:41:54,787
Speaker 27: go out and back in, so there's no heading trees

2038
01:41:54,907 --> 01:41:58,467
Speaker 27: or houses and popping back into the grid. But it's

2039
01:41:58,547 --> 01:42:00,987
Speaker 27: where it lands and rolls. So that's part of the

2040
01:42:01,067 --> 01:42:04,547
Speaker 27: sport really is every track is different. Some tracks have

2041
01:42:04,987 --> 01:42:07,147
Speaker 27: you know, it's like a runway with a hard ground,

2042
01:42:07,227 --> 01:42:10,467
Speaker 27: and some tracks are light in terms of the soft

2043
01:42:11,547 --> 01:42:13,107
Speaker 27: mard and then you've got wind.

2044
01:42:12,947 --> 01:42:16,307
Speaker 9: Factors and there's a lot to it. But ye's where

2045
01:42:16,347 --> 01:42:16,907
Speaker 9: it ends up.

2046
01:42:17,347 --> 01:42:19,267
Speaker 2: What is your best distance.

2047
01:42:20,787 --> 01:42:24,107
Speaker 27: In the final of Australian the Australian Champs, I had

2048
01:42:24,147 --> 01:42:25,947
Speaker 27: at three hundred and eighty six.

2049
01:42:25,987 --> 01:42:30,987
Speaker 2: Meters three hundred and eighty six meters, Yeah, yeah, good.

2050
01:42:31,587 --> 01:42:35,227
Speaker 2: Where would that get you? Theoretically if you hit that

2051
01:42:35,307 --> 01:42:37,147
Speaker 2: at the World Champs. Where would that get you?

2052
01:42:38,827 --> 01:42:39,467
Speaker 16: Not very far?

2053
01:42:39,947 --> 01:42:40,227
Speaker 5: Really.

2054
01:42:40,387 --> 01:42:42,787
Speaker 27: There was a smile on my face because it's in Denver,

2055
01:42:43,947 --> 01:42:47,627
Speaker 27: which is in the middle of a super high altitude,

2056
01:42:47,747 --> 01:42:50,827
Speaker 27: So because the altitude is so high up there, people

2057
01:42:50,867 --> 01:42:54,307
Speaker 27: are probably heading it closer to four ten four hundred

2058
01:42:54,307 --> 01:42:54,787
Speaker 27: and twenty.

2059
01:42:54,667 --> 01:42:56,707
Speaker 9: Meters for about four hundred and fifty yards.

2060
01:42:58,187 --> 01:43:00,027
Speaker 27: I believe last time they were up there for an event,

2061
01:43:00,107 --> 01:43:02,107
Speaker 27: they were trying to get close to five hundred yards.

2062
01:43:02,187 --> 01:43:07,547
Speaker 27: So it is all very weather dependent, but yeah, you'll

2063
01:43:07,547 --> 01:43:09,547
Speaker 27: probably need something closer to the full fifty mark.

2064
01:43:09,547 --> 01:43:12,107
Speaker 2: I'd say that is incredible. So do you feel that

2065
01:43:12,627 --> 01:43:15,147
Speaker 2: is something you've got in your locker? Could you hit

2066
01:43:15,187 --> 01:43:15,547
Speaker 2: it that far?

2067
01:43:17,787 --> 01:43:19,787
Speaker 27: I think if things go my way, yeah, for sure.

2068
01:43:20,187 --> 01:43:23,187
Speaker 27: I've been working a lot this year on basically just

2069
01:43:23,307 --> 01:43:26,987
Speaker 27: raw power and speed. Obviously there's a massive skill acquisition

2070
01:43:27,107 --> 01:43:29,227
Speaker 27: in terms of knowing how to fight to it, knowing

2071
01:43:29,307 --> 01:43:31,187
Speaker 27: how to spin rates, all that sorte of thing. But

2072
01:43:31,667 --> 01:43:33,427
Speaker 27: one thing I've been working a lot on this year

2073
01:43:33,547 --> 01:43:36,387
Speaker 27: is my speed and making sure that if I hit

2074
01:43:36,467 --> 01:43:38,507
Speaker 27: my best ball and one of the top guys that

2075
01:43:38,587 --> 01:43:40,187
Speaker 27: said best ball, that we're.

2076
01:43:40,627 --> 01:43:41,947
Speaker 9: Somewhat close enough to each other.

2077
01:43:43,667 --> 01:43:47,147
Speaker 27: And yeah, it's still a work in progress to bring

2078
01:43:47,227 --> 01:43:49,347
Speaker 27: it all together in the next sort of seven eight weeks,

2079
01:43:49,387 --> 01:43:51,867
Speaker 27: but we're getting closer and close to to bridgingnet gap,

2080
01:43:51,907 --> 01:43:53,987
Speaker 27: which long term is the goal.

2081
01:43:54,187 --> 01:43:58,307
Speaker 2: Incredible. So power and speed is there one that you

2082
01:43:58,387 --> 01:44:00,907
Speaker 2: know you talked about working on your speed there you've

2083
01:44:00,987 --> 01:44:03,427
Speaker 2: clearly pinpointed that as an area where you can get

2084
01:44:03,467 --> 01:44:06,147
Speaker 2: your biggest gains or are you also still trying to

2085
01:44:06,147 --> 01:44:08,267
Speaker 2: get as much power as you can? Plus there must

2086
01:44:08,307 --> 01:44:10,707
Speaker 2: be technique issues here too, surely.

2087
01:44:11,147 --> 01:44:13,387
Speaker 27: Yeah, Yeah, Well I came from a background of golf,

2088
01:44:13,507 --> 01:44:16,787
Speaker 27: so there is a massive technical issue which is learning

2089
01:44:16,827 --> 01:44:19,627
Speaker 27: how to untrain my golf swing and get into a

2090
01:44:19,667 --> 01:44:22,667
Speaker 27: long drive swing. In terms of areas to work on,

2091
01:44:22,827 --> 01:44:25,747
Speaker 27: I think it's it's probably more of a speed element.

2092
01:44:25,787 --> 01:44:29,107
Speaker 27: I think definitely strong enough than powerful enough in the

2093
01:44:29,187 --> 01:44:32,907
Speaker 27: gym retrospect to compete with the long drive guys. But

2094
01:44:33,387 --> 01:44:35,667
Speaker 27: I think there's an element for reps under the belt

2095
01:44:36,307 --> 01:44:38,947
Speaker 27: and just making sure that my top in speed is

2096
01:44:39,347 --> 01:44:42,987
Speaker 27: good enough to compete with the rest of the rest

2097
01:44:43,027 --> 01:44:43,387
Speaker 27: of the world.

2098
01:44:45,187 --> 01:44:48,147
Speaker 9: But yeah, in terms of yeah, it's a tough sport.

2099
01:44:48,227 --> 01:44:49,667
Speaker 9: It's one of those ones where you've.

2100
01:44:49,547 --> 01:44:51,547
Speaker 27: Got to make sure that you're not trying to do

2101
01:44:51,627 --> 01:44:53,787
Speaker 27: your top in speed all times of all times of

2102
01:44:53,827 --> 01:44:56,547
Speaker 27: the year, or else you will.

2103
01:44:56,467 --> 01:44:58,107
Speaker 9: End up sort of breaking your body a little bit.

2104
01:44:58,187 --> 01:45:01,667
Speaker 27: So there's there's elements which are technical times and at

2105
01:45:01,667 --> 01:45:03,427
Speaker 27: the moment sort of coming to the.

2106
01:45:03,427 --> 01:45:06,667
Speaker 9: Back end of our winter and all the technical stuff been.

2107
01:45:06,587 --> 01:45:08,827
Speaker 27: Done and now to be bringing it all together and

2108
01:45:08,907 --> 01:45:10,547
Speaker 27: putting it out onto the grid.

2109
01:45:10,587 --> 01:45:13,067
Speaker 2: As they say, how are the crowds at these events?

2110
01:45:14,747 --> 01:45:15,667
Speaker 9: They are phenomenal.

2111
01:45:15,787 --> 01:45:18,267
Speaker 27: There's some events which we've been lucky to be involved with.

2112
01:45:18,427 --> 01:45:22,027
Speaker 27: The Ozziepga was an awesome event last year.

2113
01:45:22,067 --> 01:45:22,587
Speaker 5: They ran it.

2114
01:45:23,267 --> 01:45:25,027
Speaker 9: They had fireworks on the first tee.

2115
01:45:25,547 --> 01:45:29,307
Speaker 27: They basically as soon as the Ozziepga on the Saturday

2116
01:45:29,347 --> 01:45:32,627
Speaker 27: afternoon had finished, they had all the crowd and moved

2117
01:45:32,627 --> 01:45:35,307
Speaker 27: straight over to the first tee. They had fireworks, they

2118
01:45:35,387 --> 01:45:40,267
Speaker 27: had like flamethrowers. They had about probably five six hundred

2119
01:45:40,307 --> 01:45:43,627
Speaker 27: people there watching and we basically ran our event at

2120
01:45:43,667 --> 01:45:45,747
Speaker 27: the exact same time as they just came off. I

2121
01:45:45,787 --> 01:45:47,707
Speaker 27: think it was minule just come off the eighteenth Green.

2122
01:45:47,827 --> 01:45:49,387
Speaker 27: So they tried to put on a bit of a

2123
01:45:49,427 --> 01:45:51,067
Speaker 27: spectacle and have a bit of fun with it, especially

2124
01:45:51,107 --> 01:45:51,267
Speaker 27: for a.

2125
01:45:51,267 --> 01:45:53,747
Speaker 2: Lot of the corporates that are around so good and

2126
01:45:53,867 --> 01:45:55,987
Speaker 2: as their price money involved here, Chris.

2127
01:45:58,307 --> 01:46:00,987
Speaker 9: There is I actually am not actually sure.

2128
01:46:02,107 --> 01:46:05,467
Speaker 27: It's not really the motivator, And to be honest, I

2129
01:46:05,507 --> 01:46:07,347
Speaker 27: couldn't actually tell you what the prize money is for

2130
01:46:07,587 --> 01:46:11,387
Speaker 27: World Champs. It's only my second time heading over to

2131
01:46:11,427 --> 01:46:12,627
Speaker 27: the States for this, so.

2132
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Speaker 31: I hope so.

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01:46:16,747 --> 01:46:16,987
Speaker 5: I know.

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01:46:17,787 --> 01:46:21,747
Speaker 27: I think last year is about forty grand us potentially

2135
01:46:21,827 --> 01:46:24,227
Speaker 27: for first place, but I honestly could not tell that.

2136
01:46:24,267 --> 01:46:26,267
Speaker 2: I actually quite like the fact you don't know. I

2137
01:46:26,627 --> 01:46:28,907
Speaker 2: think that says a lot about your motivation for this,

2138
01:46:29,107 --> 01:46:31,267
Speaker 2: just trying to smack it as far as you can.

2139
01:46:32,027 --> 01:46:34,867
Speaker 2: What is your Do you still play regular golf? And

2140
01:46:35,067 --> 01:46:37,987
Speaker 2: you talked about having to adjust because obviously you know

2141
01:46:38,107 --> 01:46:39,587
Speaker 2: you don't want to have it that far off every

2142
01:46:39,867 --> 01:46:42,827
Speaker 2: every tea that you walk onto. So do you still

2143
01:46:42,867 --> 01:46:44,627
Speaker 2: play a bit of regular golf as well?

2144
01:46:45,827 --> 01:46:46,347
Speaker 5: I used to.

2145
01:46:46,707 --> 01:46:48,147
Speaker 27: I used to when I first started a long job.

2146
01:46:48,187 --> 01:46:50,667
Speaker 27: I did, but my coach, funnily enough, has banned me.

2147
01:46:51,547 --> 01:46:54,227
Speaker 27: He said it missus with my swing too much, going

2148
01:46:54,267 --> 01:46:56,067
Speaker 27: from drivers to irons and all that sort of thing.

2149
01:46:56,147 --> 01:46:59,907
Speaker 27: So I've taken a back chef unfortunately from golf, and

2150
01:47:00,707 --> 01:47:01,907
Speaker 27: I will get back into it.

2151
01:47:02,027 --> 01:47:05,627
Speaker 9: I play a fine ambrose of in every labor day.

2152
01:47:06,467 --> 01:47:08,267
Speaker 27: I played probably two or three around a year, but

2153
01:47:09,547 --> 01:47:12,867
Speaker 27: and probably playoff for maybe a tour or three, which

2154
01:47:12,947 --> 01:47:16,467
Speaker 27: is largely through the long drives and terrible puttings. So

2155
01:47:18,867 --> 01:47:21,627
Speaker 27: you can get an agree with any three partners at

2156
01:47:21,667 --> 01:47:21,947
Speaker 27: the part.

2157
01:47:22,027 --> 01:47:23,907
Speaker 2: Well, let's drive for show PUFA do Isn't that? That's

2158
01:47:23,947 --> 01:47:27,067
Speaker 2: the old adage? And well, obviously you're driving at what

2159
01:47:27,427 --> 01:47:29,427
Speaker 2: do they provide you with the golf balls? Does everyone

2160
01:47:29,507 --> 01:47:31,387
Speaker 2: use the same kind of golf balls? You clip obviously

2161
01:47:31,387 --> 01:47:34,107
Speaker 2: don't bring your own, yeah, so you have to use what.

2162
01:47:34,147 --> 01:47:34,587
Speaker 9: They give you.

2163
01:47:34,747 --> 01:47:36,907
Speaker 27: So that's part of I guess the preparation as well

2164
01:47:37,107 --> 01:47:40,067
Speaker 27: is what balls are they're using, how do they compress,

2165
01:47:41,067 --> 01:47:43,507
Speaker 27: how do they fly? Last year they used a Bridgestone ball.

2166
01:47:44,187 --> 01:47:47,267
Speaker 27: This year they've gone with Pinnacle as their main sponsors,

2167
01:47:47,267 --> 01:47:48,947
Speaker 27: is using Pinnacle balls. So it's all part of the

2168
01:47:49,027 --> 01:47:51,147
Speaker 27: training is how do I get the most out of

2169
01:47:51,227 --> 01:47:53,987
Speaker 27: that specific golf ball as well, So we spend a

2170
01:47:53,987 --> 01:47:57,147
Speaker 27: lot of time in simulators looking at numbers, spin rates,

2171
01:47:57,627 --> 01:48:00,227
Speaker 27: especially for different types of golf balls. So there anything

2172
01:48:00,267 --> 01:48:03,427
Speaker 27: consonant is obviously what we use in terms of the gear,

2173
01:48:03,507 --> 01:48:06,107
Speaker 27: but then in terms of the balls and stuff, they

2174
01:48:06,387 --> 01:48:08,107
Speaker 27: by them more, which is good because you end up

2175
01:48:08,267 --> 01:48:08,987
Speaker 27: losing most of them.

2176
01:48:08,987 --> 01:48:12,067
Speaker 2: Anyway I can imagine, Hey, mate, this is just awesome.

2177
01:48:12,147 --> 01:48:13,787
Speaker 2: I'm just so pleased we've had the chance to chat

2178
01:48:13,827 --> 01:48:16,267
Speaker 2: about this. So what your head off what middle of September,

2179
01:48:16,347 --> 01:48:18,507
Speaker 2: get yourself acclimatized, and then get into it.

2180
01:48:18,587 --> 01:48:21,667
Speaker 27: On about the twenty fifth I think, yeah, Unfortunately we

2181
01:48:21,667 --> 01:48:23,147
Speaker 27: would like to be more time over there, but we

2182
01:48:23,267 --> 01:48:25,667
Speaker 27: head over about five I think four or five days

2183
01:48:25,707 --> 01:48:27,347
Speaker 27: before get acclimatized.

2184
01:48:27,867 --> 01:48:29,707
Speaker 9: It's been a week over there, which would be really good.

2185
01:48:29,747 --> 01:48:32,547
Speaker 27: And then our season kicks off, so we've got a

2186
01:48:32,627 --> 01:48:35,547
Speaker 27: fear bit of travel end of the year China and

2187
01:48:35,627 --> 01:48:38,907
Speaker 27: Australia and stuff, which is cool. So it's exciting time

2188
01:48:38,947 --> 01:48:40,867
Speaker 27: a year to be doing a bit of long driving,

2189
01:48:40,907 --> 01:48:42,787
Speaker 27: getting out and traveling the world as well, which is

2190
01:48:42,827 --> 01:48:43,507
Speaker 27: always a bit of fun.

2191
01:48:43,587 --> 01:48:45,547
Speaker 2: So there's actually a season. There's a circuit for this

2192
01:48:45,667 --> 01:48:47,307
Speaker 2: as well, so this World Champs is just one of

2193
01:48:47,347 --> 01:48:48,827
Speaker 2: the things you're involved in.

2194
01:48:49,587 --> 01:48:49,787
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2195
01:48:49,987 --> 01:48:52,507
Speaker 27: Yeah, there's an American circuit which is the World Long

2196
01:48:52,587 --> 01:48:55,827
Speaker 27: Drive Circuit. There is also a New Zealand circuit which

2197
01:48:56,227 --> 01:48:58,787
Speaker 27: XDL and New Zealand run, which is really cool. We're

2198
01:48:58,827 --> 01:49:00,907
Speaker 27: lucky to have I guess sort of five or six

2199
01:49:00,947 --> 01:49:04,867
Speaker 27: events here and then the Australian circuit. There's an Asian circuit,

2200
01:49:04,987 --> 01:49:07,867
Speaker 27: so it's kind of what you can afford to do.

2201
01:49:07,987 --> 01:49:10,427
Speaker 27: Obviously in America it's it's costly to get over there,

2202
01:49:11,627 --> 01:49:15,467
Speaker 27: and it's it's not a cheap trip, but we sort

2203
01:49:15,467 --> 01:49:17,107
Speaker 27: of get over here as much as you can because

2204
01:49:17,107 --> 01:49:19,587
Speaker 27: that's I guess we're the world ranking points are, that's

2205
01:49:19,747 --> 01:49:23,347
Speaker 27: the wod events are, That's that's ultimately where we want

2206
01:49:23,387 --> 01:49:27,067
Speaker 27: to be at. But the World Champs is the krem

2207
01:49:27,107 --> 01:49:29,587
Speaker 27: de la creme and that's what he runs trying to win.

2208
01:49:29,747 --> 01:49:30,827
Speaker 27: So fortunate enough to.

2209
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Speaker 9: Be there this year and hopefully show them a little

2210
01:49:33,867 --> 01:49:35,267
Speaker 9: bit about what Keywis can do.

2211
01:49:35,667 --> 01:49:38,627
Speaker 2: So good mate. Look, it's been great chatting to you, Chris.

2212
01:49:38,707 --> 01:49:40,827
Speaker 2: All the best mate. Can't wait to see how you go.

2213
01:49:41,627 --> 01:49:43,747
Speaker 9: No, awesome, appreciate the time, Thanks very much, No.

2214
01:49:43,907 --> 01:49:46,467
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time, Chris. What a what a

2215
01:49:46,587 --> 01:49:50,067
Speaker 2: fascinating chat. Chris Charlton one of the key we is

2216
01:49:50,107 --> 01:49:53,307
Speaker 2: qualifying for the World Long Drive Golf Championships in the

2217
01:49:53,427 --> 01:49:56,947
Speaker 2: US late September this year. So interesting he's coach. This

2218
01:49:57,067 --> 01:50:00,507
Speaker 2: coach doesn't let him play normal golf anymore. Love that

2219
01:50:00,667 --> 01:50:04,067
Speaker 2: We'll keep track of Chris's progress when he's over in

2220
01:50:04,147 --> 01:50:06,627
Speaker 2: the US later on this month, and let you how

2221
01:50:06,707 --> 01:50:07,027
Speaker 2: he goes.

2222
01:50:07,467 --> 01:50:08,067
Speaker 5: What did he say?

2223
01:50:08,347 --> 01:50:11,787
Speaker 2: Close to five hundred yards? I reckon some of the

2224
01:50:11,867 --> 01:50:14,707
Speaker 2: top guys can get that is a long way, a

2225
01:50:14,827 --> 01:50:17,867
Speaker 2: long long way. A couple of text throw on the Warriors, Piney.

2226
01:50:18,027 --> 01:50:21,707
Speaker 2: I think the Warriors with no expectations, says Andrew, on

2227
01:50:21,827 --> 01:50:24,267
Speaker 2: their shoulders, and you are do you rather to have

2228
01:50:24,347 --> 01:50:26,947
Speaker 2: a blinder at home? And they're a very dangerous side

2229
01:50:26,987 --> 01:50:28,747
Speaker 2: When they do, they'll know they're not going to win

2230
01:50:28,787 --> 01:50:31,307
Speaker 2: the comp this year, but taking out the Panthers will

2231
01:50:31,347 --> 01:50:33,667
Speaker 2: be deemed to success for me and possibly for them

2232
01:50:34,187 --> 01:50:37,307
Speaker 2: as well. Thanks Andrew. Piney either says this one reminds

2233
01:50:37,347 --> 01:50:40,267
Speaker 2: me when the Warriors from eighth beat top of the

2234
01:50:40,307 --> 01:50:43,707
Speaker 2: table Melbourne in the two thousand and sixth finals, the

2235
01:50:43,787 --> 01:50:46,747
Speaker 2: only time an eighth place team has beaten a first

2236
01:50:46,787 --> 01:50:51,267
Speaker 2: place team. Yeah, I guess that the underdog has in

2237
01:50:51,347 --> 01:50:55,347
Speaker 2: the past emerged victorious. The irony here is that the

2238
01:50:55,427 --> 01:50:58,387
Speaker 2: Warriors finished higher than the Panthers, so the table would

2239
01:50:58,387 --> 01:50:59,947
Speaker 2: tell you that the Warriors should be favorite, but it

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01:51:00,027 --> 01:51:03,507
Speaker 2: is the Panthers four time defending champions. HAMI says Piet

2241
01:51:03,507 --> 01:51:07,107
Speaker 2: Stop trying to get my hopes up made. I have

2242
01:51:07,267 --> 01:51:10,747
Speaker 2: the same probability of winning Lotto as the Warriors do

2243
01:51:10,827 --> 01:51:12,787
Speaker 2: of winning this game. It's possible, but it won't happen.

2244
01:51:14,547 --> 01:51:19,027
Speaker 2: Amoush Anything is possible, Mate, anything is possible. Live Sport

2245
01:51:19,107 --> 01:51:22,067
Speaker 2: Chatham Cup Final. Auckland United have port a goalback, but

2246
01:51:22,147 --> 01:51:25,347
Speaker 2: Wellington Limps have scored another one too. Thirteen minutes to

2247
01:51:25,387 --> 01:51:31,067
Speaker 2: go in our top domestic men's knockout competition and Wellington

2248
01:51:31,147 --> 01:51:35,467
Speaker 2: Olympic leading Auckland United by four goals to two, and

2249
01:51:35,667 --> 01:51:38,267
Speaker 2: in the Bunnings MPC may have plenty of extended their

2250
01:51:38,347 --> 01:51:41,547
Speaker 2: lead over Tananaki. They now lead twelve three after half

2251
01:51:41,547 --> 01:51:45,307
Speaker 2: an hour of their game in New Plymouth and Far

2252
01:51:46,107 --> 01:51:50,307
Speaker 2: Palmer Cup Rugby from Lansdowne Park in Blenham, North Harbor,

2253
01:51:50,707 --> 01:51:53,547
Speaker 2: Head of Tasman, fourteen points to five after half an

2254
01:51:53,547 --> 01:51:57,187
Speaker 2: hour in that one, coming up twenty two away from three.

2255
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Speaker 2: High excitement among fans of American sport. With the new

2256
01:52:01,067 --> 01:52:04,627
Speaker 2: NFL season underway, We're going to get you to the

2257
01:52:04,747 --> 01:52:08,627
Speaker 2: US and to one of the the foremost experts on NFL,

2258
01:52:08,787 --> 01:52:12,147
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell, out of ESPN, going to join us next

2259
01:52:12,187 --> 01:52:14,227
Speaker 2: to preview the upcoming season, The.

2260
01:52:14,347 --> 01:52:18,227
Speaker 1: Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Pine

2261
01:52:18,307 --> 01:52:22,267
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News.

2262
01:52:23,827 --> 01:52:24,267
Speaker 5: Coming up.

2263
01:52:24,307 --> 01:52:28,827
Speaker 2: Eighteen away from three. The new NFL season is underway.

2264
01:52:28,907 --> 01:52:31,627
Speaker 2: This is American football, of course, leading to the Super

2265
01:52:31,707 --> 01:52:34,627
Speaker 2: Bowl in February. A couple of games already Eagles twenty four,

2266
01:52:34,667 --> 01:52:37,707
Speaker 2: Cowboys twenty Chargers, too good for the Chiefs twenty seven

2267
01:52:37,707 --> 01:52:40,427
Speaker 2: to twenty one. That game was played in Brazil. A

2268
01:52:40,627 --> 01:52:43,307
Speaker 2: raft of games tomorrow, New Zealand time. The big day

2269
01:52:43,387 --> 01:52:45,907
Speaker 2: four NFL over here is Monday. It's Sunday over there,

2270
01:52:46,307 --> 01:52:48,507
Speaker 2: and then there's a Monday night game which folds into

2271
01:52:48,547 --> 01:52:52,067
Speaker 2: Tuesday morning over here. Let's bring in senior football writer

2272
01:52:52,267 --> 01:52:55,627
Speaker 2: with ESPN, Bill Barnwell. Bill, great to have you join

2273
01:52:55,747 --> 01:52:57,627
Speaker 2: us across New Zealand with a bit of a preview

2274
01:52:57,667 --> 01:53:00,627
Speaker 2: of the new season. The Eagles at a winning start

2275
01:53:00,827 --> 01:53:03,907
Speaker 2: their Super Bowl champions of course from last season. Are

2276
01:53:03,987 --> 01:53:06,187
Speaker 2: they looking like they could go back to back?

2277
01:53:08,107 --> 01:53:12,827
Speaker 8: Certainly, although definitely some question marks. This wasn't the sort

2278
01:53:12,867 --> 01:53:15,667
Speaker 8: of comprehensive when you would expect in front of your

2279
01:53:15,707 --> 01:53:19,387
Speaker 8: fans obviously started in very curious fashion with Jalen Carter,

2280
01:53:19,507 --> 01:53:22,787
Speaker 8: their best defensive player, getting ejected before the game. It

2281
01:53:22,907 --> 01:53:26,747
Speaker 8: really even started for spitting on one of the Cowboys players.

2282
01:53:26,947 --> 01:53:30,027
Speaker 8: Very odd starts the game, and it was close throughout.

2283
01:53:30,027 --> 01:53:32,227
Speaker 8: It was not a game where they dominated a Cowboys

2284
01:53:32,267 --> 01:53:34,587
Speaker 8: team that's not really expected to compete this year. So

2285
01:53:35,427 --> 01:53:38,787
Speaker 8: maybe some questions, but certainly any victory is a victory,

2286
01:53:38,827 --> 01:53:39,267
Speaker 8: I suppose.

2287
01:53:39,627 --> 01:53:41,827
Speaker 2: What about some of the other contend is I'll give

2288
01:53:41,827 --> 01:53:45,307
Speaker 2: you a few teams, the Bills, the Ravens, the Lions,

2289
01:53:45,547 --> 01:53:48,627
Speaker 2: teams that haven't quite got there but have been close.

2290
01:53:48,867 --> 01:53:50,867
Speaker 2: Could they take the next step this time?

2291
01:53:52,147 --> 01:53:52,747
Speaker 8: Oh, certainly.

2292
01:53:53,187 --> 01:53:53,747
Speaker 22: And there's a.

2293
01:53:55,427 --> 01:53:59,227
Speaker 8: There's no team that feels inbeatable right now in the NFL.

2294
01:53:59,267 --> 01:54:01,227
Speaker 8: The Eagles were excellent last year. That they lost a

2295
01:54:01,347 --> 01:54:04,427
Speaker 8: lot of firepower on the defensive ball, something in censive

2296
01:54:04,427 --> 01:54:05,787
Speaker 8: side of the ball, I should say, about forty four

2297
01:54:05,827 --> 01:54:08,507
Speaker 8: percent of the they had last year from their players.

2298
01:54:08,587 --> 01:54:11,227
Speaker 8: Now they've gone elsewhere. So a lot of young talent

2299
01:54:11,307 --> 01:54:14,347
Speaker 8: on the Eagles, but certainly they feel more vulnerable. And

2300
01:54:14,427 --> 01:54:16,387
Speaker 8: the Chiefs, who had been the two times Super Bowl

2301
01:54:16,387 --> 01:54:20,347
Speaker 8: winners before that, lost to the Eagles in the Super

2302
01:54:20,387 --> 01:54:22,707
Speaker 8: Bowl last year, did get their season off to a

2303
01:54:22,827 --> 01:54:25,547
Speaker 8: loss in Brazil, so they're already all in one, and

2304
01:54:25,587 --> 01:54:28,587
Speaker 8: they played the Eagles next week in the marquee matchup

2305
01:54:28,627 --> 01:54:31,667
Speaker 8: of Week two in the NFL. So definitely feels like

2306
01:54:31,827 --> 01:54:34,187
Speaker 8: the top of the league is vulnerable. Really a lot

2307
01:54:34,267 --> 01:54:36,627
Speaker 8: of teams who could compete the Packers making you big

2308
01:54:36,707 --> 01:54:40,827
Speaker 8: move for Micah Parsons the start offensive and rusher before

2309
01:54:40,907 --> 01:54:43,387
Speaker 8: the season a couple weeks ago. But it does feel

2310
01:54:43,427 --> 01:54:45,227
Speaker 8: like a lot of teams could do it. But no

2311
01:54:45,387 --> 01:54:47,387
Speaker 8: team really a clear favorite right now.

2312
01:54:47,867 --> 01:54:51,547
Speaker 2: Do you evaluate where the Chiefs are at? Clearly still

2313
01:54:51,547 --> 01:54:55,547
Speaker 2: a very very good football team. Will I continue the

2314
01:54:55,747 --> 01:54:57,227
Speaker 2: run of consistent excellence.

2315
01:54:58,747 --> 01:55:01,707
Speaker 8: I do think they'll be excellent. But I wonder how

2316
01:55:01,787 --> 01:55:03,787
Speaker 8: they react to the Super Bowl loss last year, because

2317
01:55:03,787 --> 01:55:06,107
Speaker 8: it wasn't one thing to lose in a close game

2318
01:55:06,467 --> 01:55:08,587
Speaker 8: and feel like, oh maybe it wasn't our day. They

2319
01:55:08,747 --> 01:55:11,627
Speaker 8: really were overwhelmed, They really were blown out by the

2320
01:55:11,787 --> 01:55:13,907
Speaker 8: Eagles from the very start of that game to the

2321
01:55:14,067 --> 01:55:19,427
Speaker 8: very end, and so they have I wonder how motivated.

2322
01:55:18,947 --> 01:55:19,427
Speaker 9: They're going to be.

2323
01:55:19,507 --> 01:55:21,187
Speaker 8: You know, they'd won two Super Bowls in a row.

2324
01:55:21,667 --> 01:55:24,227
Speaker 8: Certainly maybe like, you know, what else is there to conquer?

2325
01:55:24,307 --> 01:55:27,667
Speaker 8: Sort of feeling. Now they have every reason to be motivated. Now,

2326
01:55:27,747 --> 01:55:31,227
Speaker 8: they have every reason to be incentivized to prove Hey,

2327
01:55:31,307 --> 01:55:33,707
Speaker 8: that was just the fluke. We really are the best

2328
01:55:33,747 --> 01:55:36,187
Speaker 8: team in football. But a lot of the players, a

2329
01:55:36,227 --> 01:55:39,067
Speaker 8: lot of even the coaches there, Andy Reid, Chris Jones,

2330
01:55:39,187 --> 01:55:43,067
Speaker 8: Travis Kelsey and not Patrick Mahomes. You know, it's the

2331
01:55:43,107 --> 01:55:45,067
Speaker 8: first three guys thirty year old. Are Patrick mahonmes now

2332
01:55:45,067 --> 01:55:48,187
Speaker 8: getting into you know, the veteran phase of his career.

2333
01:55:48,627 --> 01:55:50,947
Speaker 8: You sort of wonder have they gone as far as

2334
01:55:51,027 --> 01:55:52,907
Speaker 8: they can with that core and do they maybe need

2335
01:55:52,987 --> 01:55:55,987
Speaker 8: to you know, replenish it and refresh a bit, or

2336
01:55:56,387 --> 01:55:58,667
Speaker 8: do they have one more title in them? It feels like,

2337
01:55:59,267 --> 01:56:01,227
Speaker 8: you know, after an only one start playing maybe the

2338
01:56:01,267 --> 01:56:03,507
Speaker 8: best team in football in League two, the Chiefs could

2339
01:56:03,547 --> 01:56:06,187
Speaker 8: really be, you know, playing from behind the eight ball

2340
01:56:06,387 --> 01:56:09,027
Speaker 8: very quickly, which is not something they're used to. They

2341
01:56:09,107 --> 01:56:10,387
Speaker 8: usually get off to very good starts.

2342
01:56:10,827 --> 01:56:11,027
Speaker 9: Bill.

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Speaker 2: When you look across the league, are there any rookies

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Speaker 2: new faces that you could see moving the needle for

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Speaker 2: their teams this season?

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Speaker 27: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean obviously you always look towards the quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: as the team who could make guys who could make

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Speaker 8: Tuesday big leaps very quickly. You look at Cam war

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Speaker 8: the first overall pick who went to Tennessee. That's a

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Speaker 8: franchise that has been really disappointing for several years now,

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01:56:34,627 --> 01:56:37,027
Speaker 8: haven't been able to do much, But that's a team

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Speaker 8: that invested a lot of their offensive offseason, didn't get

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Speaker 8: much out of their quarterbacks last year. In New York,

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Speaker 8: Jackson dark who's going to be the new quarterback for

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Speaker 8: the New York Giants eventually a quarterback who is very exciting,

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Speaker 8: really impressed during the exhibition periods during the preseason. So

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Speaker 8: the question of when he's going to get in the

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Speaker 8: lineup because the Giants have a very tough schedule to

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Speaker 8: start the year. But I would expect Jackson Dart to

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Speaker 8: be a player who really impresses. And then Ashton john

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Speaker 8: T the really wonderful running back who went to Las

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Speaker 8: Vegas where they hired a new coach, Pete Carroll. They

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Speaker 8: have a new quarterback in Gino Smith. That's a team

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Speaker 8: where if they can have an exciting year. Obviously Vegas

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Speaker 8: is always a fun place to play, so that could

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Speaker 8: be you know, a spot where if they get their

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Speaker 8: running game going, he could be one of the focal

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Speaker 8: points of the league. In his rookie season.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned this ninety four start offensive lineman Michael Passon's

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Speaker 2: big tried pride to the season from the Cowboys to

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Speaker 2: greenby just throll down a bit into that for us,

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Speaker 2: What does that do to both teams?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for the Cowboys sort of the you know, they

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Speaker 8: call themselves America's team. They're the most popular team in America.

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Speaker 8: It's almost like a recognition that they're not the team

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Speaker 8: people want to play for anymore. You know, the Mica

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Speaker 8: Parsons would rather have been traded to sign a contract

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Speaker 8: for less money to play with the Cowboys and having

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Speaker 8: an owner and Jerry Joneses now in his eighties sort

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01:57:57,467 --> 01:58:00,947
Speaker 8: of reacting to a player wanting to get paid a

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Speaker 8: record salary for his position and to sort of just

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Speaker 8: you know, throw his the restrot there is toys out

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Speaker 8: of the prem I suppose, and I'm getting rid of

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Speaker 8: him regardless. After the Packers, a team that is the

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Speaker 8: youngest team in football over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 8: having a lot of talented players, Maybe he didn't have

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Speaker 8: that star power. Maybe he didn't have that guy who

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Speaker 8: really gave opposing coaches fits and scared them during the week.

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Speaker 8: Now they have that player in Michael Persons, and that's

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Speaker 8: a team or maybe they could take a leap forward

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Speaker 8: because they are so young and now they added a

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Speaker 8: superstar player, one of the best players in football at

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Speaker 8: any position, in the prime of his career. So really

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Speaker 8: a big swing for them and the Cowboys a sort

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Speaker 8: of surprising step backwards.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they had the chance to see

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Speaker 2: Louis Reese zamat Welsh rugby star who gave the NFL

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Speaker 2: a go, didn't work out for him. What makes the

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Speaker 2: NFL so difficult to break into for athletes who terrifically

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01:58:54,667 --> 01:58:56,947
Speaker 2: successful in other similar sports.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we with that.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: Obviously an incredible rugby career through his early twentiesesn't make

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01:59:04,307 --> 01:59:05,867
Speaker 8: this as a player in the talent of his career.

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01:59:06,427 --> 01:59:08,587
Speaker 8: Is someone who is in the prime of his career

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01:59:08,627 --> 01:59:10,547
Speaker 8: when he decided to make the switch to the NFL.

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Speaker 8: It really is tough just because there are some specialized

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Speaker 8: skills that come into it. You're not just uh, you're

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01:59:19,187 --> 01:59:22,347
Speaker 8: not just catching, you're not just running, you're blocking, you

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01:59:22,467 --> 01:59:24,147
Speaker 8: have to stay healthy, you have to convince people that

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Speaker 8: you're you know that you know the playbook. It is

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Speaker 8: such a specialized sort of sport. And when you see

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Speaker 8: great athletes here in America who played other sports who

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01:59:34,787 --> 01:59:36,347
Speaker 8: have tried to run into football, it's been a very

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Speaker 8: difficult thing. The one exception, of course, has been Austoos

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01:59:40,547 --> 01:59:42,467
Speaker 8: football players who've been able to punt, But that's really

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01:59:42,507 --> 01:59:45,307
Speaker 8: a specialized skill which you're only doing one thing. You're

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01:59:45,347 --> 01:59:48,547
Speaker 8: really only just punting, and so you know, that has

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Speaker 8: been probably a way for people to break through it,

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01:59:50,627 --> 01:59:53,667
Speaker 8: kicking and punting. But I just think the range of

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01:59:53,787 --> 01:59:56,827
Speaker 8: things you have to do and the sort of time

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01:59:56,907 --> 01:59:58,827
Speaker 8: frame you have to prove it and is so small

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Speaker 8: that it really is difficult. So I certainly appreciate Resentment's

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Speaker 8: effort into trying to do it. Maybe, you know, if

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Speaker 8: he had been willing to stick with it for a

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Speaker 8: few more years, maybe he would have got an opportunity.

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Speaker 8: Obviously an incredible athlete, but it is just such a

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Speaker 8: tough sport to break through.

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Speaker 2: And then the college ranks. A lot of hype around

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Speaker 2: takes this quarterback arch Manning Philly famous surname of course,

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Speaker 2: and if you have a Payton and alife, what do

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Speaker 2: you predict for him? Bill Way? Might he end up?

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Speaker 8: I do think he could end up in the same

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Speaker 8: place his grandfather played many years ago, which is New Orleans.

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Speaker 8: The Saints really don't look very good this year, not

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Speaker 8: much at the quarterback spot. The favorites to have the

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Speaker 8: worst record in football, which would get them the first

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Speaker 8: overall pick next year. In Arch Banning, I mean it

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Speaker 8: has to be impossible, right, I mean, when your grandfather

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Speaker 8: is an NFL quarterback, when your two uncles were Hall

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Speaker 8: of Game caliber quarterbacks. Really, since he was a child,

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02:00:52,867 --> 02:00:56,467
Speaker 8: he has been destined to be the next great NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 8: and so he's getting his opportunities. He's gone an incredible

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Speaker 8: not just Typenning into the year. Didn't get off to

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Speaker 8: a great start. They lost to Ohio State a very

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Speaker 8: good defense in the opening to the football season here,

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Speaker 8: but certainly feels like if he shows what everyone expects,

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Speaker 8: he'll end up being in the first overall pick and

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Speaker 8: grand up sort of following in his grandfather's footsteps and

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Speaker 8: rebuilding a team in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: To finish, Bill my Son is a Minnesota Vikings saying,

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Speaker 2: can you offer him any strait of optimism for the season.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean now the team that won fourteen

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Speaker 8: games last year, when fourteen wins three losses, A very

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Speaker 8: imposing defense, very fun defense that is very aggressive. They

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Speaker 8: really love to rush the quarterback. And there's a great

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Speaker 8: unknown there in JJ McCarthy won a national title at Michigan,

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Speaker 8: a top ten pick, missed all of his rookie season

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Speaker 8: with a manuscus injury in his knee. But so it's

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Speaker 8: one of those things where you don't really know what

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Speaker 8: you have with quarterbacks when they come out of college football.

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Speaker 8: It is a great mystery box. And they if the

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Speaker 8: organization is right and they landed a superstar quarterback, the

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Speaker 8: Vikings could be one of the teams who compete for

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Speaker 8: a Super Bowl hardly out of Theram with possibility. Just

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02:02:02,347 --> 02:02:05,467
Speaker 8: maybe don't head to Minnesota in December or January if

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Speaker 8: you want to.

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Speaker 9: Value wonderful.

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Speaker 2: He'll be pleased to hear it. It's been great to

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Speaker 2: hear from you, Bill, Thanks for sharing your expertise with

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Speaker 2: us today. That is Bill Barnwell, senior football writer with ESPN,

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Speaker 2: joining us here on new stalk's THEB and Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: nine to three.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fields Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason lyin News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Five and a half away from three, Wellington Olympic are

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Speaker 2: about to win the Chatham Cup for the second consecutive year.

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Speaker 2: They're four to ahead of Auckland United heading into added time.

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Speaker 2: It'll be three in a row for Paul Eifel as coach.

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Speaker 2: He has been coach of Wellington Olympic obviously this year

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Speaker 2: and last and was in charge of christ Jute United

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Speaker 2: when they won it the year before. So three in

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Speaker 2: a line for Paul Eifel, the former Wellington Phoenix Star

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Speaker 2: now head coach of Wellington Olympic who are about to

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Speaker 2: win our most famous piece of domestic men's football silverware.

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Speaker 2: Well done indeed to them. That's us on we can

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Speaker 2: Sport today and for the weekend. It's been such a

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Speaker 2: pleasure bringing you Weekend Sport this weekend. Yesterday from the Kingslander.

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Speaker 2: We had the game last night. The show today is

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Speaker 2: just a feeling of positivity around which I love. It's

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Speaker 2: been great to soak that up with you. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for your contributions to the show. If you made one

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Speaker 2: or more, thank you for just listening and if that's

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Speaker 2: what you chose to do. Tim Beveridge after three o'clock

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Speaker 2: with a weekend Collective, Andy and I back tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: with Monday Evening Sports Talk. Taking us out today, well

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Speaker 2: on Father's Day, we should mark that occasion. Happy Father's

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Speaker 2: Day to my dad, Happy Father's Day to Andy's dad,

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Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day if you're a dad or about to

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Speaker 2: become one. And happy Father's Day to your father too.

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Speaker 2: Cat Stevens, father and son. Taking us out, we'll see

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Just sit up, take it slowly, still young.

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Speaker 2: That's your fault. There's so much you have to go through,

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Speaker 2: buying the gur settle down if you want, you can,

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Speaker 2: MA read look at me. I am old, but I'm happy.

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Speaker 17: All the times.

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Speaker 33: Gotta crime, keep it all the things than you inside.

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Speaker 33: It's hard, but it's hard to regnre it very right,

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Speaker 33: you agree, but it's them, I know, not me. No,

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Speaker 33: there's away and I know.

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Speaker 2: That I have to go away. I know I have

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Speaker 2: to go.

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