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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 2: like no one else News Talks Evy.

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Speaker 3: I've turned Welcome to the show coming up today. Colder

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Speaker 3: Wealth's Boss on how high that retirement age should actually go.

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Speaker 3: If you're thinking sixty seven, you might have to rethink.

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Speaker 3: We'll get you across the details of that massive Pokey's machine.

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Speaker 3: Charity Fust and Paul Spoonley on the immigration slump. Heather

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Speaker 3: Duplicy Ellen, Okay, let's talk about superannuation, which I noticed

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Speaker 3: that we are doing more and more frequently, and which

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Speaker 3: I think will probably become even more frequent as our

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Speaker 3: population gets older over the next few years. So it's

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Speaker 3: come up again because the boss of Milford Investments has

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Speaker 3: given a speech warning that this talk of taking it

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Speaker 3: from sixty five the pension age from sixty five to

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Speaker 3: sixty seven is simply not enough and realistically we have

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Speaker 3: to lift it from sixty five to seventy two or

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Speaker 3: maybe seventy three. And apparently we aren't taking the affordability

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Speaker 3: of superannuation seriously enough, which actually I do agree with

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Speaker 3: the latter part that we're not taking it seriously enough.

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Speaker 3: About sixty years ago, we used to have eight workers

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Speaker 3: supporting one pensioner. Today we've got half of that, four

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Speaker 3: workers supporting every pensioner. By the time I'm claiming my pension,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be two workers supporting every pensioner. That

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Speaker 3: is completely unaffordable. It will not work, We will not

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Speaker 3: be able to do it. But my prediction is that

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Speaker 3: we are not going to take this seriously until we

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Speaker 3: see the government starting to take this seriously, because unfortunately

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Speaker 3: they are the ones who have to lead here. They

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Speaker 3: need to start leading by example. If they want us

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Speaker 3: to save money by giving up years of our pension,

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Speaker 3: which is what the National Party will likely campaign on,

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Speaker 3: then I'd like to start see I'd like to see

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Speaker 3: them starting to save money as well. No more throwing

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Speaker 3: money at the sunny cocials of this world into my

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Speaker 3: opinion or too in my opinion, silence possible criticism. No

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Speaker 3: more giving billions to Shane Jones to blow on businesses

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Speaker 3: that can't stand on their own two feet without government funding.

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Speaker 3: No more giving stud ud into a year of free

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Speaker 3: tertiary education to buy votes. When they start taking this

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Speaker 3: so called silver tsunami. Seriously, so will the rest of US.

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Speaker 3: I suspect it's called compromise. Until then, the pension remains

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Speaker 3: the way that hard working taxpayers who don't get all

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Speaker 3: that other free government money get back some free government money.

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Speaker 1: Ever d for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Is the text number. You're welcome towagh in and then

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Coder Whilfs's boss after five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Now Tomorrow, New Zealand will join countless other countries for

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Speaker 3: a global Day of Action for Iran. Tens of thousands

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Speaker 3: have been killed in anti regime demonstrations in Iran, and

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Speaker 3: activists say all they want is democracy. Barrissa solicitor and

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Speaker 3: Iranian New Zealander Samara Tagavia's with me, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Samira, Hi, Heather, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm going to be honest with you. I get

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Speaker 3: about I reckon it would be about four or five

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Speaker 3: emails from you guys every day reminding me that this

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Speaker 3: is on tomorrow. This is a big deal for you.

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Speaker 4: A yes, yes, that it's very very important for the

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Speaker 4: Iranian community. And I have to say also for the

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Speaker 4: New Zealand community to come and support us tomorrow. Just

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Speaker 4: on that note. We are going to be starting at

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Speaker 4: eleven am from Brittamar to Myers Park and then we

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Speaker 4: will be joined by the Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour

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Speaker 4: and the Chief Human Rights Commissioner, Doctor Rainbow, who will

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Speaker 4: be addressing us and hither. I think it's really important

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Speaker 4: for you to know why what's happening in Iran right

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Speaker 4: now is genuinely historic. This is a revolution. This is

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Speaker 4: the first time there's a recognized opposition leader, Crown Prince Pallaby,

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Speaker 4: who's got a clear democratic roadmap. And what we're trying

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Speaker 4: also from the government is to have the IRGC, which

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Speaker 4: is Islamic revolution, which is Islamic I always get it wrong,

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Speaker 4: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as to designate as a terrorist group.

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Speaker 4: Hither because you saw what's happened in a star as

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Speaker 3: Waited, Okay, have do you still have hope that the

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Speaker 4: Oh no, absolutely not. I completely disagree with that. It's

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Speaker 4: it's going. It's going very very strong. Unfortunately, every day

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Speaker 4: opposition leader. That's why he has asked for this global

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Speaker 3: Okay. The Crown Prince is an interesting and interesting figurehead

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Speaker 3: everyone will see him as the the ideal opposition leader,

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Speaker 4: Most people inside in Iran and outside Iran have accepted

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Speaker 4: him as an oppositional leader, as an opposition leader and

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Speaker 3: But other people are I mean, there are calls to

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's not going to give into that. He's got

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Speaker 4: a very clear roadmap. He's got a prosperity plan, He's

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Speaker 4: So I don't believe it for a second that those

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Speaker 3: Are you frustrated by the lack of coverage that you

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I'm not surprised hither, because you've seen in

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Speaker 4: absolutely terrified of covering the Iran situation because, as I

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Speaker 3: So you're are you are you telling me that there

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Speaker 3: that you think is repelling the media from covering it.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, because pro Palestine people, if you look at the

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Speaker 4: pro Palestine people around the world, they carry the photo

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Speaker 4: of the Islamic Republic leader who is a murderer, who's

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Speaker 4: So that's why media is trying to stay away from it,

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Speaker 4: because it doesn't match their ideology. And that's what's really

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Speaker 4: far from Islamophobia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I reject that entirely. I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty simple view of the world, doesn't it, Listen, Samara,

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Speaker 3: But absolutely, yeah, beast of luck with tomorrow, and thanks

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Speaker 3: us about it. That Samara Tacavi who's a barristers solicitor

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Speaker 3: and an Iranian part of the protest tomorrow. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: she said eleven o'clock you can you can go along

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Speaker 3: at Britomart if you want to do you know, just

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Speaker 3: complete change of subject. Do you know what I've enjoyed

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Speaker 3: about the Judicial Conduct Panel hearing for the judge who

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Speaker 3: allegedly yelled during Winston's speech at the Northern Club. It

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Speaker 3: was watching the New Zealand First Minister Kasey Castello giving

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Speaker 3: her evidence yesterday and reading from the notes that she

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Speaker 3: took on the night of the incident. Because what was

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Speaker 3: she before she was a New Zealand First Minister. That's right,

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Speaker 3: she was a former detective in the police. That's why

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Speaker 3: I think what you would call probably a credible witness.

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Speaker 3: right now, how piney? Hello, you're here for sale GP.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, looking forward to it. Yeah, broadcasting tomorrow mid day

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Speaker 7: sale GP. Hopefully the weather's going to improve a little bit.

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Speaker 7: By the sounds of it's not going to rain tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a blowy day? Although what does

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean you even bring a jacket, don't you.

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Speaker 7: I think you know you want to see high intensity racing.

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Speaker 3: Can I suggest you that there hasn't been enough advertising

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Sort of? Have you not caught the vibe in the

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like vaguely aware of it, but at

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Speaker 3: no point hasn't been pitched to me. You need to

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Speaker 3: see this happened, you know what I mean? And actually

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Speaker 3: It seems like it might be.

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Speaker 7: I think the good thing about it is it's over

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Speaker 7: expecting twenty five twenty six thousand across the two days plats.

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Speaker 7: I think it's it's fairly striking in a visual sense,

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Speaker 7: so hopefully they'll get some they'll get the people turning up.

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Speaker 7: They've extended the grand stand this year, so that tells

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to suggest that Ants the producer knows

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Speaker 3: You just get pissed off with our lack of gratitude.

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Speaker 7: Ah, you've got the ability to cut through where I

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Speaker 7: Thing you mean to get back people like you who

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Speaker 7: some more law tweaks. The problem, I guess is when

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Speaker 7: it'll be an exciting season. Thirty years ago first of

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Speaker 3: Oh well, you have to see your job, otherwise you

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Speaker 3: probably wouldn't Piney, Thank you appreciate it, Jason Pine Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport hosts will be back at midday during the SALEGP

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Speaker 3: tomorrow for twenty two.

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Speaker 2: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 8: And the cultural lief you can get if you're married.

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Speaker 8: I rang a Tomriki Maored staff get discretionary paid cultural leave,

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Speaker 8: annual leave. How did this happen? Karen Shaw's the Minister

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Speaker 1: Is this real?

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, yes it is. It was put into union contracts

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Speaker 8: Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: It's Heather du Clan Drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 3: I Heather, the problem with the sale GP is it's

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Speaker 3: about two hundred dollars a ticket. That's probably do you

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Speaker 3: know what actually I told you last night Sublime tickets

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Speaker 3: a trust's serena, which is you got to schlep all

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Speaker 3: the way out to West Aalkland. Trusts serena is not

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Speaker 3: your premium event, you know, not your premium venue in Auckland,

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Speaker 3: And then also you haven't even got the lead singer.

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Speaker 3: This is the missing mum of the TV anchor in

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Speaker 3: the States. The FBI there is increasing the reward on

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Speaker 3: every oh, oh, no, I've got to tell you this

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Speaker 3: I got off the plane at Wellington Airport and it stinks,

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Speaker 3: high heaven. Well, do you know what comes next? Because

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Speaker 3: I did not see this coming. But apparently bird strike.

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Speaker 3: I also hope you're involved with the taxpayers Union, as

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Speaker 3: raining and waste from the government is right up your alley.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what, Ian, thank you? And I'm not

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Speaker 3: involved with the taxpayers Union, but do you know what,

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Speaker 3: was like, at least actor is making an effort with

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Speaker 2: May the day's newspakers talk to Heather first, Heather duplicy

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Speaker 2: ell and drive with one New Zealand and the power

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Speaker 1: New Sor said, be.

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Speaker 3: Right, Harry Side is going to be with us shortly.

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Speaker 3: Whither have we not recognized democracy is dumb and does

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Speaker 3: That's from Jeff Well.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Houton reckons in his opinion piece which is in

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Speaker 3: are there any genuine low tax, free market right wingers

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Speaker 1: The world wires on newstalks. He'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor as predicted as the new opposition leader in Australia.

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Speaker 3: There was a spill motion this morning and Angus unseated

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Speaker 3: Susan Lee thirty four votes to seventeen. Here's Susan.

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Speaker 5: I wish Angus Taylor well. I know he has experience,

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Speaker 3: The US Border boss says the ICE operation in Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: Tom Holman says most agents will be withdrawn from the city,

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Speaker 8: Have they extended ICE training which was cut back by

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Speaker 10: Have they extended that?

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Speaker 1: Have they done thorough new training.

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Speaker 12: Have they agreed to roll out bodyborn cameras every office

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Speaker 3: And finally, a man in Turkey has tried to burgle

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Jan Mitchinson, US correspondence with us Elo dan Hi. There

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Speaker 3: either so Trump's legal case against the BBC's next year.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they were trying to sort of delay it, but

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Speaker 13: the BBC edited this speech together that he gave in

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Speaker 3: What's the unfair trade practices?

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Speaker 13: Well, the whole thing is just the fact that they

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Speaker 3: They sat in their case, the emails, because can you

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Speaker 3: imagine how many of those staff at the BBC have

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Speaker 3: written disparaging emails in jest about Donald Trump, never thinking

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Speaker 3: it would ever be made public.

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Speaker 13: Oh no, oh yeah, absolutely. And and you know, this

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Speaker 13: is just the latest sort of nail that's been hit

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Speaker 13: into the coffin of the BBC right now. As you know,

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Speaker 13: and you've reported on too, they've had numerous lawsuits right

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Speaker 13: now and just sort of bad press one thing after

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Speaker 13: the other, which is why you know, they're wondering, after

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Speaker 13: seeing what happened over here when Trump went after CBS

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Speaker 13: and some of the other networks, if they might settle

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Speaker 13: before they go to trial.

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, run me through what Trump has done here

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Speaker 3: in terms of fighting climate change.

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Speaker 13: Okay, he's repealing this the scientific finding, and it's been

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Speaker 13: the basis for how we regulate greenhouse gas emissions over

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Speaker 13: here to fight climate change. And he says this whole

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Speaker 13: thing has been just a hoax from day one one

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Speaker 13: of the I think he called it one of the

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Speaker 13: greatest scams in history.

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Speaker 1: So what this is going to do now?

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Speaker 13: By repealing this all the greenhouse gas emission standards for

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Speaker 13: cars and trucks, it could unleash a number of other

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Speaker 13: regulations for say, power plants and oil and gas facilities,

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Speaker 13: which would be huge in states like here in California

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Speaker 13: or in Texas. But you know, there's going to be

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Speaker 13: legal challenges to all of these things right now. And

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Speaker 13: he's just saying that, you know, on the contrary, despite

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Speaker 13: what the left is saying, you know, over the generation's

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Speaker 13: fossil fuels have saved millions of lives and you know,

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Speaker 13: put billions of people out of poverty all over the world,

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Speaker 13: not just here in the US.

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Speaker 3: DAN So they found some gloves, have they in the

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Speaker 3: gu three case? Like? Have they said? How many gloves?

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Speaker 3: Whose gloves are they? The gloves that belong to the

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Speaker 3: chep who was knocking on the door.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think that's what they're trying to piece together

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Speaker 13: right now. In fact, just a short time ago, they

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Speaker 13: said that they're going to increase the reward to one

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Speaker 13: hundred thousand dollars, leading to which again a lot of

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Speaker 13: people have said, you know, that just doesn't seem like

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Speaker 13: a lot of money for with the kind of money

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Speaker 13: that a host of the Today Show makes. And they've

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Speaker 13: also started releasing a description of a suspect that was

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Speaker 13: seen at that doorbell footage, which is very generic. You know,

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Speaker 13: they're seeing something like, you know, five nine five ten

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Speaker 13: tall male with an average build, which could be any

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Speaker 13: number of millions of men here in the country. The

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Speaker 13: neighbors are having to turn over personal security footage right now.

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Speaker 13: They've had about twenty they being the investigators, have had

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Speaker 13: you know, twenty twenty two thousand tips related to this

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Speaker 13: case right now. And there was another ransom note earlier

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Speaker 13: today that was handed over to TMZ and the writer

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Speaker 13: of that note said that they're not being taken seriously.

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Speaker 13: So whether or not that's just sort of a crank

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Speaker 13: note or if that's actually something that's legit from the kidnapper.

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Speaker 13: We don't yet know.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Thanks for running us through. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: next week night. There's Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent, eighteen away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: Either dup is the l I should.

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Speaker 3: Say on the matter of Angus Taylor Rowling Susan Lee Well,

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Speaker 3: I have a checked to Charles Crouch and nine News

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Speaker 3: chief Political leeditor in about half an hour's time and

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Speaker 3: get his take on it. If you are interested in

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Speaker 3: the proposed T twenty competition for New Zealand, there is

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Speaker 3: a news article on what happened to former New Zealand

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Speaker 3: cricket CEO Scott Winning that I reckon's worth reading just

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Speaker 3: because it's got heaps of in the kind of personally

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Speaker 3: I find the whole how did Scott lose his job

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Speaker 3: thing kind of boring, but in that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of really interesting stuff about what's going on with this

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Speaker 3: proposed T twenty competition. So basically the idea, it's always

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Speaker 3: been assumed that we are too small to support a

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Speaker 3: T twenty competition, But then the Caribbean has the Caribbean

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Speaker 3: Premier League and that's been really successful and so what

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Speaker 3: they've done is they've gone well if a bunch of

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Speaker 3: like a very small population there is able to sustain it,

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Speaker 3: maybe we can too. So they've based it on the

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Speaker 3: same idea, which is you turn it into a bit

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Speaker 3: of a party. I'm guessing think the Sevens kind of

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Speaker 3: thing without the dress up. I don't know. They've doubled

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Speaker 3: down on local color, brought in the global stars and

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Speaker 3: as a result, the Caribbean Premier League has been really successful.

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Speaker 3: Now under this proposal for New Zealand, the teams would

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Speaker 3: not be based on where the major associations are based,

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Speaker 3: but actually in the main population centers and where people

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Speaker 3: go on holiday. So think Mount Monganui will have a

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Speaker 3: team base there and Queenstown would have a team. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How good would that be? I mean this is starting

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Speaker 3: to look like New Zealand twenty twenty six. It's got

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Speaker 3: financial backing apparently from six high net Worth Kiwis. It

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Speaker 3: includes Rod Drury of zero and then Animo Bray and

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Speaker 3: Ali Williams of Zuru And did you know this? I

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Speaker 3: didn't know this. We are the only Test playing nation

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Speaker 3: that doesn't have a franchise T twenty league. Maybe that

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Speaker 3: should change. Anyway, We'll talk to the Sports title. Maybe

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Speaker 3: if we have time, we'll get to this with a

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Speaker 3: sports title. We are jam packed with the sports title

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Speaker 3: as it is. Anyway, Barri Soapa is next sixteen away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit. Check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Blair Tuk, the SALGP Chief Executive is

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Speaker 3: with us after half past five. Right now it's thirteen

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Speaker 3: away from five and Barry Soaper, senior political Correspondence with US.

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Speaker 14: I Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: So what did you make of the revelation that it's

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Speaker 3: not just all angar Tamariki offering cultural or leave to

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Speaker 3: only Maori stuff no one else. But now it turns

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Speaker 3: out a whole bunch of other agencies as well.

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Speaker 14: There are other agencies and now no doubt the government

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Speaker 14: will be setting up and taking some notice. I mean

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Speaker 14: it was current chure of the Minister of Children who

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Speaker 14: realize who revealed that I rung A Tamareki gives culture

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Speaker 14: or leave. Now I tried to find out how long

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Speaker 14: this leave is available for. It's uncapped. So you know,

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Speaker 14: if you're Maldi and you say you want to go

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Speaker 14: to Kapahaka, if you want to go to Mattaitini performances,

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Speaker 14: you want to go to Murray meetings, you can take

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Speaker 14: time off paid leave. It's available to nobody else. And

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Speaker 14: clearly while it was negotiated apparently by the Public Service

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Speaker 14: and Association in twenty twenty three, which of course was

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Speaker 14: the last year of the labor labor only government, the

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Speaker 14: clause provides that all Maori members with access to pay

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Speaker 14: discretionary leave for the purposes of cultural obligations. That's what

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Speaker 14: it says. Now under the Holidays Act there's no separately

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Speaker 14: provided for MALDI. But nevertheless, the PSA has been able

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Speaker 14: to negotiate with individual departments, and of course the public

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Speaker 14: servants aren't that keen on this particular government because they've

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Speaker 14: taken a bit of a stick to them. But yeah,

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Speaker 14: it seems that doc the Environment ministries they offered it,

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Speaker 14: they do offer it, and there's agreements in place. Maybe

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Speaker 14: that's why the Maori Party don't turn up to Parliament

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Speaker 14: as regularly as they should, so it extends to that

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Speaker 14: as well.

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Speaker 3: Do you think, okay, just a very quick question on this,

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Speaker 3: do you think that this government can get away with

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Speaker 3: doing the whole I didn't know about it thing? When

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Speaker 3: I mean, when they've been there for what two years

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Speaker 3: and four months.

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Speaker 14: Well, the thing is the legislation, that's the Holidays Act,

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Speaker 14: doesn't provide for it, so it's not in there. These

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Speaker 14: are individual contracts that are negotiated by the service agencies

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Speaker 14: and the PSA. So whether they can get away with

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Speaker 14: saying they didn't know about it is, I guess debatable,

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Speaker 14: but you know, unless it's brought to their attention. Although

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Speaker 14: the legislation there was legislation passed, so they must have

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Speaker 14: known about it. Then has forgotten about it?

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Speaker 3: Interesting? Okay, what's happened to Anna Bremen? Now?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's interesting, isn't it that when Jerome Powell was

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Speaker 14: removed from the FAAIRD a couple of weeks ago by

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Speaker 14: Donald Trump, our governor of the Reserve Bank joined with

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Speaker 14: other central bankers and sent letters of support to the US. Well, basically,

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Speaker 14: Winston Peters isn't happy about it. He posted on x

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Speaker 14: that the Reserve Bank has no role nor should it

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Speaker 14: involve itself in US domestic politics. And he reminded the

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Speaker 14: Governor to stay in her lane and to stick to

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Speaker 14: domestic mondetary policy. And he said, that's what the sort

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Speaker 14: of advice that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would have

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Speaker 14: given to her if she had asked, but she didn't ask,

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Speaker 14: and Winston didn't ask for advice either, which.

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Speaker 3: Is the new revelation.

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Speaker 2: It's any thing.

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Speaker 14: But at the point that he makes and I can

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Speaker 14: understand it in a way that he said that he

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Speaker 14: didn't need the advice because he knew what the situation was.

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Speaker 14: And look, any politician would know that. You don't if

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Speaker 14: you're a public servant, write off to another country and

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Speaker 14: say we feel sorry for the treatment that this particular

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Speaker 14: public servant has had met it out to them. It

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Speaker 14: was interesting to me though the Finance Minister, Nicola Willis,

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Speaker 14: she wasn't consulted by Brennan either. Apparently Brennan said that, look,

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Speaker 14: she had to make that decision at three in the

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Speaker 14: morning and she didn't feel like disturbing Minister Willis. But

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Speaker 14: Minister Willis was the government. Look, I'm available at anytime

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Speaker 14: and that's what New Zealand does expect from me, and

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Speaker 14: I made that clear to it. So the new new

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Speaker 14: woman at the Reserve Peak you will know New Zealand pology.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So the Michael Reid Casey video of the

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Speaker 3: night has been played, has it well?

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Speaker 14: Yes it has, and he came into the act after

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Speaker 14: the judge had come back to a table and said

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Speaker 14: she had said to Winston Peters that either he was

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Speaker 14: lying or making up something about saying Tea Kunger was

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Speaker 14: part of the legal training now. But in the video

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Speaker 14: played to the panel, Michael Reid Case can be seen

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Speaker 14: trying to film inside the New Zealand First event despite

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Speaker 14: being told numerous times that he wasn't allowed to. I

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Speaker 14: haven't listened to the altercation that ensued.

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Speaker 6: Is it a favorite function? I understand that, and I

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Speaker 6: understand that, but don't touch people. I'm not touching you.

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Speaker 6: You will be sued for don't match you don't don't

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Speaker 6: you touch me? And I'm going to do that and

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Speaker 6: I'm going to just be able to make it complete

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Speaker 6: to the club because I.

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Speaker 15: Know I will.

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Speaker 1: This is a private.

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Speaker 3: You are part of a different function.

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Speaker 6: So will you told Winston from me please that I

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Speaker 6: am upset about being a New Zealand First supporter about

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Speaker 6: and on your meaning list.

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Speaker 16: You can send them an email yes, but this was

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Speaker 16: not the correct thing.

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Speaker 1: Then you are part of a different function.

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Speaker 17: Can you be quiet?

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Speaker 14: Will you be quiet? Now? The thing is that I

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Speaker 14: found in that very imperious behavior by Michael Reid QC.

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Speaker 14: Said that he would be sued for a lot of

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Speaker 14: money at the security. I didn't step back, of course,

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Speaker 14: nobody even looked as though they would put a hand

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Speaker 14: near the King's Council. And he knows a lot of

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Speaker 14: members at the Northern Club and he wanted to make

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Speaker 14: a complaint. Well, if he knows the members, he should

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Speaker 14: know that a rule of the club is you don't

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Speaker 14: film anything inside the club, which is what he was doing.

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Speaker 3: I've got a lot of passion on that one. All right,

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Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to you later. Quarter past six

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Speaker 3: rap the political week that was as very soper. Seven

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Speaker 3: away from five. There is this cultural leave why there's

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Speaker 3: not enough staff on duty at ord Atamadiki.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually not finished with the subject. We'll deal with

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Speaker 3: that again in the next half hour. Isn't the Super

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Speaker 3: Smash a T twenty competition? Yes? But is the distinction

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Speaker 3: that the Super correct me if I'm wrong, But is

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Speaker 3: the distinction that the Super Smash is not a franchise

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Speaker 3: T twenty competition? Is that the difference? Now I need

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Speaker 3: to tell you about It's four away from five. By

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Speaker 3: the way, I'm going to tell you about the Department

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Speaker 3: of Internal Affairs really quickly because it's just done what

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Speaker 3: it thinks is its biggest bust and prosecution. This was

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Speaker 3: on pokey fraud. So normally, you know how the pokes work.

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Speaker 3: You put your money in the pokey's and then forty

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Speaker 3: percent of the earnings has to be given by the

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Speaker 3: pokey operators to the community. But the Department of Internal

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Speaker 3: Affairs did an investigation and found that there were six

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Speaker 3: charities and incorporated societies that were taking this pokey money

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Speaker 3: and grants, but they were just pocketing it basically themselves,

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Speaker 3: allegedly by creating alleged fake employees. Twenty three people involved,

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Speaker 3: more than five hundred charges, more than three million dollars involved.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the Gaming Association of New

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Speaker 3: Zealand after five o'clock. I gotta tell you about what

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Speaker 3: nah I got. Yeah, I'll tell you about my food

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Speaker 3: my food bag and the old Devil Jabs, the old

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Speaker 3: were govis, the old Ozmpics. I'll tell you about that shortly. Standby.

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Speaker 3: But next up, let's talk superannnuation and how high the

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Speaker 3: pension age actually has to go so we can afford

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Speaker 3: it next news talks.

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Speaker 1: It'd been.

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Speaker 16: Quotes a.

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Speaker 14: Gift, descend, gif decen.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust trust to ask

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Speaker 2: the question, get the answers, find the fag sack and

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Speaker 2: give the analysis. Here the duplic ell and drive with

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news

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Speaker 2: dogs there be afternoon.

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Speaker 3: We're being warned we are not taking the unaffordability of

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Speaker 3: superannuation seriously enough. The warnings come from the boss of

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Speaker 3: an investment company who says the age of the pension

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Speaker 3: may need to rise not to sixty seven, but maybe

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Speaker 3: seventy two or seventy three. Rupert Carline is the managing

699
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Speaker 3: director of CODO. Walthen is with us. Hi, Rupert, Hi,

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Speaker 3: do you agree seventy two or seventy three?

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Speaker 12: If that to be honest, I think if we want

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Speaker 12: to keep it at the four hundred fifty dollars a week,

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Speaker 12: it's going to have to grow to seventy three seventy four.

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Speaker 12: The bigger question I've got, though, is four hundred and

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Speaker 12: fifty dollars a week enough for people and today, but

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Speaker 12: definitely not in the future.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it isn't, But I mean, is that even really,

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Speaker 3: is it a realistic possibility that we have to raise it?

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Speaker 12: It definitely is. Even under the sixty seven scenario inzed

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Speaker 12: super is a percentage of GDP is expected to go

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Speaker 12: from four and a half percent all the way up

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Speaker 12: to seven percent. So that means we're going to have

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Speaker 12: to find another two and a half percent of GDP

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Speaker 12: in taxes just to pay for that. And so if

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Speaker 12: we want to keep it at at steady rate, then

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Speaker 12: it's going to have to go much higher than sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if it's not four fifty, where should it realistically sit?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 12: I think most people so Sorry. The Retirement Commissioner said,

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Speaker 12: the minimum you need to live is about eight hundred

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Speaker 12: and fifty dollars per week, and that's largely if you

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Speaker 12: own your own house. So there's still a massive gap

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Speaker 12: for people between those two. I mean, if you think

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Speaker 12: about now, where even if you've got if you own

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Speaker 12: a house, you pay rates, you pay insurance. That's the

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Speaker 12: firste hundred hundred fifty dollars a week gone before you've

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Speaker 12: even started thinking about food and all the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you say seventy four is maybe where it

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Speaker 3: needs to go to, how quickly.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's the big question. I think that is going

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Speaker 12: to have to take time because we still do have

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Speaker 12: forty percent of kiwis that rely on INTI super in

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Speaker 12: their retirement. I'm a publicly I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 12: means testing because I think that means that we can

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Speaker 12: make the change today. That also means that we can

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Speaker 12: direct the money to the people that need it, so

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Speaker 12: we can actually give people that need it seven hundred

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Speaker 12: dollars a week rather than trying to give everyone four

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Speaker 12: hundred and fifty. But fundamentally, the current proposal to move

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Speaker 12: it to forty seven over twenty years, I mean sorry,

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Speaker 12: sixty seven over twenty years is just far too slow

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Speaker 12: because the damage is already going to be done by then.

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Speaker 3: All right, Rupert, it's good to talk to you. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for your perspective on that. Rupert Carline Coder, Wealth Managing Director,

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Speaker 3: nine past five. Here the Duplessy l there's been a

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Speaker 3: major bust in Pokey fraud. Twenty three people face more

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Speaker 3: than five hundred charges and they're accused of obtaining millions

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Speaker 3: of dollars in grants from Poky's. Follows an investigation by

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Speaker 3: the Department of Internal Affairs Reckons it's the biggest prosecution

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Speaker 3: they've ever started. Peter Dengate Thrush, it's from the Gaming

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Speaker 3: Machine Association of New Zealand Hypieter grall you thing. I'm

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Speaker 3: very well, thank you mate. Now explain to me how

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Speaker 3: these six charities or incorporated societies have allegedly got the

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Speaker 3: money fraudulently.

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Speaker 15: Just start by saying, we don't know who they are,

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Speaker 15: so there's a presumption and there's a presumption of innocence.

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Speaker 15: So we're a bit jumping about talking about the actual case.

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Speaker 3: You can use the word allegedly and then it's okay,

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Speaker 3: we can.

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Speaker 15: It turns out to be true. My members are going

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Speaker 15: to be very disappointed, and I think the community is

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Speaker 15: rightfully disgusted by it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that who You can't tell us who these

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Speaker 3: people a because they've got a name suppression. But are

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Speaker 3: they charities and incorporated societies that I may have come

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Speaker 3: across or be aware of.

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Speaker 1: You may well have done.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 15: The way that the system works is that only charitable

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Speaker 15: trusts can get licenses from the Department to operate the

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Speaker 15: Class four gamling system, and they may get another license

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Speaker 15: for each of the venues. So they go through a

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Speaker 15: pretty regulated process normally, So.

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Speaker 3: Can you explain to us how they allegedly did this.

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Speaker 15: I don't know the details of this charge, but there

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Speaker 15: are a whole lot of things that seem to be

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Speaker 15: coming out of it. One of the allegations seems to

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Speaker 15: be that grant moneys, which should have gone to the

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Speaker 15: community have been actually fed back to the society itself,

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Speaker 15: and they're supposed to be there's suposed to be a

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Speaker 15: big wall between between those things happening the societies. There

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Speaker 15: should be proper separation between all those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like, and correct me if

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong, but it sounds like, at least in one instance,

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Speaker 3: what's happened has been alleged creation of a fake employee

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Speaker 3: thereby yes, you know, basically sucking out the money.

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Speaker 15: Okay, so that's a pretty simple fraud technique to try

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Speaker 15: a number of circumstances that won't be a particularly gamming

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Speaker 15: related one.

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Speaker 1: That's just padding the payroll.

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Speaker 15: And again, you know, that's that's really very very disappointing behavior.

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Speaker 3: Now, I imagine that you'd be disappointed because I think

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Speaker 3: pokeys are already on have have waning support in the community,

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Speaker 3: and I imagine that you'd be concerned that this will

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Speaker 3: erode trust in the system.

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Speaker 15: Disappointed, but there's no waning support. There's a very steady

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Speaker 15: band of this is a we're a billion dollar industry here,

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Speaker 15: the part of the hospitality industry, and for nineteen nine

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Speaker 15: percent of the players there's no problem. So it's a

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Speaker 15: very strong support for gambling in general.

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Speaker 3: As part of the hospitality industry. Yeah, Peter, it's always

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Speaker 3: good to talk to you. Thanks for coming on and

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Speaker 3: having a chat to us about it. Peter Dingate Thrush,

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Speaker 3: who's the Gaming Machine Association of New Zealand spokesperson together

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Speaker 3: for see Ellen. Now, if you are slightly if you're

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Speaker 3: even slightly interested, I think in how the economy is

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Speaker 3: going to roll out over the next few months this year,

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Speaker 3: and if you are like me fingers crossed that this

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Speaker 3: thing picks up and off we go. Then apparently the

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Speaker 3: result that you need to watch, because we are in

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Speaker 3: reporting season at the moment on the INSIDEX Apparently the

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Speaker 3: result that you need to watch is on Monday. It's

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Speaker 3: the freightways result. It's the first half year result. Freightways

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Speaker 3: are seen as a bell weather stock, so its numbers

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Speaker 3: are going to throw some light on the state of

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Speaker 3: the economy and how well things are going at the moment.

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Speaker 3: The market is actually expecting that it's going to be okay,

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Speaker 3: and the noise is coming from freightways sound very positive.

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Speaker 3: The shares have had a record high just in this

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Speaker 3: last week of over fifteen dollars, so put that in

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Speaker 3: your diary for Monday. We will definitely be talking about

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Speaker 3: it on the show. Go to Charles Croucher Nest next

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Speaker 1: Ever, duplessy out, We're going to.

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Speaker 3: Deal shortly with this cultural leaf business at ordering atomiticky.

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Speaker 3: Right now, at sixteen past five, the Australian Liberals have

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Speaker 3: pulled the pin and they have changed their leader. Angus

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Speaker 3: Taylor forced out Susan Lee with the vote thirty four

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Speaker 3: to seventeen.

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Speaker 10: We must look ahead and put the disagreements of the

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Speaker 10: recent past behind us and most importantly, hold a bad

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Speaker 10: labor government to account by putting Australians first.

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Speaker 3: Now, Charles Croucher is nine News Chief Political Edits and

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Speaker 3: with us. Hello Charles, Hey, Heather mate, it's good to

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Speaker 3: chat to you again. Now tell me is he the guy?

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Speaker 3: Are you convinced by him? Can he win an election?

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Speaker 17: I don't think you can win an election anytime soon,

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Speaker 17: but he's in a better situation than Susan Lee was

857
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Speaker 17: the polls just became too loud, even nine months into

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Speaker 17: her time as leader after a disastrous election last year.

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Speaker 17: Angus Taylor more from the John Key or Chris Luxen

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Speaker 17: mold of Conservative leader. He is promoting a country that

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Speaker 17: is immigration, more homes and lower taxes. Now, he was

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Speaker 17: shadow Treasurer at the last election under Peter Dutton and

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Speaker 17: that wasn't the policy they took then. So he's promising

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Speaker 17: a change that would defy what he's done in the past.

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Speaker 17: But enough of his colleagues believe he's the person to

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Speaker 17: at least get them out of the doldrums. But it

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Speaker 17: is a pretty deep doldrums right now.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the fact that Susan Lee

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Speaker 3: has decided to quit politics all together.

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Speaker 17: She's been around for twenty five years in the building,

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Speaker 17: is a grandmother, has a nice pension to retire to.

872
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Speaker 17: I don't think she wants anything to do with this

873
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 17: rebuild at the Liberal Party if she's not there, and

874
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 17: what she has left Angus Taylor is a hell of

875
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 17: a by election in her seat. It's one that only

876
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 17: she has ever won for the Liberal Party. It's a

877
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 17: huge seat that stretches from almost the entirety of the

878
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 17: New South Wales Victoria board us. So a big seat

879
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 17: that will be running at with that, five different parties

880
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 17: will think they are a chance of winning that seat.

881
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 17: It will be a first test for Angus Taylor and

882
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 17: a really tough test as well. So that's a little

883
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 17: middle finger on the way at the door from Susan Lee.

884
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: Did I see Pauline Hanson say that they're going to

885
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: contest that seat.

886
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 17: Yeah, and they would be a real chance there. This

887
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 17: is a regional seat. It's one where there's a lot

888
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 17: of dissatisfaction being on the Murray River, a big river system.

889
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 17: It's one where water is really important. Angus Taylor is

890
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 17: a former water minister and there was troubles there during

891
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 17: his time. I think one nation will believe they're a

892
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 17: chance of winning that. The Nationals, the Junior Coalition Party,

893
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 17: it's their old seat, they'll want it back Susan Lee

894
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 17: off them twenty five years ago. And then you throw

895
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 17: in these tel Independent Movement that's become a big rage

896
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 17: here in Australia, plus Shooters, Fishes and Farmers Party. It

897
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 17: really is a licorice all sorts kind of seat and

898
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 17: will be a fascinating watch for the next six weeks.

899
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: Charles, did I see you into being Bill Gates the

900
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: other day?

901
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 16: Yeah?

902
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: I did, your good work mate. Did you believe him?

903
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 17: Look, he had an opportunity to back out and didn't,

904
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 17: which I appreciated.

905
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: As for.

906
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 17: Whether he was telling the truth, he appeared to be.

907
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 17: But whether you believe me, who met him for twenty minutes,

908
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 17: or his wife who's known him for a bit longer,

909
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 17: I'll leave that to anyone that's.

910
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Watching or listening draw your own conclusions. Charles Nice, totally

911
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: look after yourself. Charles Crouch and nine News chief political editor.

912
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: I did not believe him for one second. But that's

913
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: because I've got women's intuition and Charles doesn't. Because this

914
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: is you know what I'm talking about. This is the

915
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: business about the Epstein Files where Bill Gates allegedly got

916
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: the clap from one of the Russian girls and then

917
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: try to put antibiotics into Melinda's I don't know, food, drink,

918
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: whatever to try to solve the clap for her. Anyway,

919
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: he answered the question, but he paused and I can't

920
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: remember what the word was, but he just paused at

921
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: the wrong moment and I went liar. Charles obviously didn't

922
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: feel that way, but as I say, he's not a woman.

923
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: Now the Golden Visa looks to be doing very well.

924
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: You know the one I'm talking about. This is the

925
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: one where if you come in with your money bags,

926
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: bring your money bags into New Zealand will sort you out.

927
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: We've already had and it's like money bags, like five

928
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 3: million dollars plus, We've already had five hundred and seventy

929
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: three applications since it was rejigged by Erica last year.

930
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: More than a billion dollars of foreign capital has already

931
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: been invested. Another two point three four billion dollars is

932
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: expected to be invested over the next six months. So

933
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: Erica says she will come and talk to us about

934
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: this after six stand by five twenty one.

935
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

936
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: it's Heather of duplicyl and drive with one New Zealand

937
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: coverage like no one else us talk.

938
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: They'd be Yeah.

939
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: The means testing is not fair. That means the biggest

940
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: contributors through tax will get the least amount of pension.

941
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: It is ridiculous. I could not agree more absolutely no

942
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: to the means testing. It's same, same for everybody, and

943
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: also same same. If we're giving up the pension, the

944
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: government starts giving up nice things that like spending money

945
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: on to look good in front of voters five twenty four. Now,

946
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: how predictable is the media A And yet even though

947
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: it's predictable, how incredibly disappointing. I scratch around today to

948
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: find any news articles covering the revelation that ordering its

949
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: Hamitiki gives its Maldi staff basically unlimited cultural leave to

950
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: go to things like Kapahaka, which no other staff of

951
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: any other ethnicities are allowed. And I found the following

952
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: news articles, News Talk ZB because it was on Mike's

953
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: show this morning, the Dunk and Garner podcast because he

954
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 3: broke it, The Centrist, and then a bunch of blogs,

955
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: and there's nothing else. None of the other legacy media

956
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: appear to have even touched the story. And yet David

957
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: Seymour removes the malordi name of the Healthy School Lunches

958
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: program and its outrage across all the media. It's on stuff,

959
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: It's on Radio New Zealand, it's of course on news

960
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: Talk z BE because we cover and everything. It's on

961
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: the Post it's on the Press, it's on the Wye

962
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: Cutle Times, it's on the Herald where it's labeled racist

963
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: and pathetic. Now, which of these two stories do you

964
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: genuinely think is more newsworthy and more important to us

965
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: as a society. The fact that a Maori name has

966
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: been removed from one program or the fact that, as

967
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: we now discover, multiple public service agencies are giving staff

968
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: of one ethnicity only the ability to take more leave

969
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: than staff of other ethnicities. I don't need to ask

970
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: you that question because the answer is obvious. But the

971
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: reason that this has happened in the public service, the

972
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: reason that it slipped through in one round of contract

973
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: negotiations and then popped up in more and more, was

974
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: because the media don't find it outrageous. Because if it

975
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: isn't exposed the first time it pops up and called

976
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: out by outlets, it just becomes the norm, doesn't it.

977
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: And that is why I think this is part of

978
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 3: the reason why all of the stuff that we find

979
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: so outrageous about special treatment for certain ethnicities has just

980
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: become the norm, because there are a whole bunch of

981
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: media outlets out there who we expect to do the

982
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: right thing, and hold people accountable who do not do

983
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: the right thing, and hold people accountable. Now more than

984
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: being surprised and disappointed, I am worried because if the

985
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: media genuinely thinks that one name is the most important

986
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: story of the two and worth covering more than I think. Boy,

987
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: have we as a society got our work cut out

988
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: for us?

989
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Ever? Do Sellen?

990
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to tell you about WEGOVI, Oh, well, it's

991
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: actually really about my food bag. So my food bag,

992
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: which if you've been following the story of my foodback

993
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: had has not had the easiest run and is trying

994
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 3: to sort of turn itself around. And stuff that indicated

995
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: they're going to start targeting the weight loss JAB people.

996
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 3: Now you know the weight loss jab people. You see

997
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: them everywhere. Five minutes ago they had a bit of

998
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: the old I'm not I am not casting aspersions on them.

999
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: Boy oh boy. If I could get myself on those

1000
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 3: little jabbies like legitimately, but I can't. But if I could,

1001
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: I'd be sticking them in my bum every day anyway,

1002
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: well every week, because that's not all but anyway, but

1003
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: you know the people, they are the people who had

1004
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: a bit of fat around the old cheekbones five minutes

1005
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: ago and then all of a sudden looking good looking

1006
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: sexy today. The thing about these people is they eat

1007
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: smaller portions right because they haven't got literally they just

1008
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: do not have an appetite for anything bigger. But they

1009
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: have to be really careful about what they eat because

1010
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: they can't just be eating small like eat filling their

1011
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: tongues with cake, because that's not going to go well

1012
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 3: for them. So they have to actually eat high protein.

1013
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: They have to eat well, but just you know, smaller things.

1014
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: And they complain constantly, if you know any of these people,

1015
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: complain constantly that normal people size portions are just too

1016
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 3: much for them. So my food Bag is now going

1017
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: to increase its marketing spend on pushing the meals that

1018
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: they have already prepared last year for these people, the

1019
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: people taking the GLP ones, so smaller protein rich meals.

1020
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: They reckon. They're going to pitch it out at them,

1021
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: and they reckon. There's a big audience there, more than

1022
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: sixty thousand people in this country right now already on

1023
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: the jabs.

1024
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 12: How about that.

1025
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: Lee Chuke is going to be with us next on

1026
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: sale GP starting this weekend newstalks, EDB.

1027
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

1028
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: your car on your drive home it's Heather d to

1029
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: Clan drive with one New Zealand hand of power of

1030
00:48:53,520 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: satellite mobile news talks, Dberry.

1031
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: Stanford's going to have us after six took us through

1032
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: the Golden Visa bringing in the dollars, but also the

1033
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: immigration numbers, big Foot wealth. It's the same story it's

1034
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: been for ages, immigrations and not a hot thing at

1035
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: the moment. Here there's sixty thousand people paying one hundred

1036
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: and fifty dollars per week to be on the JAB.

1037
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: Is not a bad little money spend earner, do you

1038
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: know what it isn't? And the company behind the WIGOVI

1039
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: and the Ozmpic is doing so well that they've I

1040
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: don't know if you've caught up on this, but late

1041
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: last year they actually got the naming rights for one

1042
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: of the stands at Eden Park. So that usually tells

1043
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: you your coppying a fair bit a coin. A twenty

1044
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: four away from six, the sports huddles standing by right

1045
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: now though Sale GP now Sale GP is on an

1046
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: Auckland again this weekend. Unfortunately, a thunderstorm is also forecast

1047
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: to hit Auckland this weekend, so racing on sunday's being

1048
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: moved up to an eleven thirty start. It's going to

1049
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: start at four o'clock tomorrow as planned. Blair Chuke is

1050
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: the co CEO and the wing trimmer of the Black

1051
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: Foils and with us Hi Blair.

1052
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, good afternoon.

1053
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: How's your boat after that scrape in Perth help?

1054
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 18: Hellos a little bit more than a scrape, but it's

1055
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 18: it's back together, which is great news. And we've just

1056
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 18: been out in the water for a quick rip around

1057
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 18: Whitemantow Harbor ahead of the thunderstorms that are all around

1058
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 18: Auckland this afternoon. And yeah, boat was in feeling good,

1059
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 18: just as it was before the incident, and our team's

1060
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 18: really excited for the week and a head. It looks

1061
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 18: like a great forecast, so even with the earliest start

1062
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 18: on Sunday, it's still going to be awesome racing.

1063
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: Good stuff. How was the wind out there? Were you

1064
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: enjoying it?

1065
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1066
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 18: There was a bit of rain involved too, actually, but no,

1067
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 18: it's always I mean just being back on home waters.

1068
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 18: We race so much overseas and in sale GP all

1069
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 18: around the world, so to have the opportunity to race

1070
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 18: here this weekend in front of our home fans, or

1071
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 18: even just to go sailing like we did this afternoon

1072
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 18: on the fifty was unreal.

1073
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys must come here one like pretty confident.

1074
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: This is your stomping ground, right, You've got you You're

1075
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: not the underdog. You're the opposite here, aren't you.

1076
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 18: Well, we've got the home fans on our side, so

1077
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 18: that's a big positive them and we do draw a

1078
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 18: lot from that. It makes us, just gives us a

1079
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 18: little bit more edge, and we want to put on

1080
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 18: a good show for them, so we'll go out there

1081
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 18: and give it our upmost to do that. But the

1082
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 18: reality is we're racing against what's now twelve other great teams,

1083
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 18: all best sailors in the world, identical boats, and we,

1084
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 18: like I've mentioned before, we race all around the world,

1085
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 18: so we get used to adapting quickly, and I know

1086
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 18: all the other teams will too, So it'll be whoever

1087
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 18: tunes into these southerly south west conditions off Upper White

1088
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 18: Matar tomorrow and Sunday that comes out on top. But yeah,

1089
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 18: we're certainly feeling good and looking forward to getting up

1090
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 18: there now.

1091
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: Blair I mean, I can understand that the fans have

1092
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: an impact on a game that's played in the stadium,

1093
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 3: because of course all the players can hear the fans,

1094
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: But do they have an impact for you guys?

1095
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 18: Oh, they most certainly do. I'm actually just here in

1096
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 18: the tech base now inside the VC and there's one

1097
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 18: hundred or so people just walking around the boats and

1098
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 18: different tours, which is that's a neat buzzer itself. And

1099
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 18: right outside here there's people ever everywhere and saying good

1100
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 18: luck and all that. And then when we get on

1101
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 18: the water. Surprisingly actually last year, I haven't heard it

1102
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 18: ever in sailing. Well, actually I had once before down

1103
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 18: in christ Church in Littleton. But the New Zealand fans

1104
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 18: are crazy, and maybe that sounds strange to some people

1105
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 18: because compared to other fans around the world in stadiums,

1106
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 18: we're not that. Yeah, we hear the fans here in

1107
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 18: New Zealand, which is pretty awesome, especially with all the

1108
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 18: whistling that goes on and the boats. Thinking you're hearing

1109
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 18: the crowd over that, that's great boost for us.

1110
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's cool for the fans to know that

1111
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 3: it's actually reaching you. Now on the little scrape with

1112
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: the Swiss, was it? I know you guys have been

1113
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 3: blamed for it. It was actually the Swiss that were

1114
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 3: at fault.

1115
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 18: No, we were found guilty in the wrong by the

1116
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 18: jury by the umpires in the end. But it's incredibly

1117
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 18: tight margins and through that moment when the Swiss maneuver

1118
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 18: it onto start attack the rules of sailing, there was

1119
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 18: bounced between about three rules within within about five seconds.

1120
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 18: So it was one of those things that we slightly

1121
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 18: misjudged it. But in saying that, they were still the

1122
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 18: aggressor in our opinions and they could have done more

1123
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 18: to avoid us. But yeah, the umpires saw it differently.

1124
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 18: But onwards from now. We obviously ended up with zero

1125
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 18: points out of that event, which was a tough start,

1126
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 18: but it got a chance to get our season back

1127
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 18: on track this weekend at home.

1128
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, out of one hundred, how do you rate

1129
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: the chances that sale GP comes back to Auckland after

1130
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: this year?

1131
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 18: I think it would have to be somewhere close close

1132
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 18: to one hundred. I know, you know, it's not my decision,

1133
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 18: as you know from the black Forest side of things,

1134
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 18: but I know both TAU and sale GP the league

1135
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 18: want to make it happen. We both want to have

1136
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 18: a well they both want to have a long term

1137
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 18: future of us racing here and you know that's awesome

1138
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 18: for us from a team, right, so we're doing all

1139
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 18: we can to try and make that happen. But yeah,

1140
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 18: they're intense, definitely there and I think you'd have to

1141
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 18: give it a high chance.

1142
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: Good they will take it on. Please to hear it.

1143
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 3: Listen mate, thank you for your time, and go well

1144
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: tomorrow and at the weekend. It'd be great to watch

1145
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: you do it. Blear Tukee Black Foils co CEO and

1146
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 3: Wing Tramer nineteen away from six.

1147
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Subberby's International Realty

1148
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: a name you can trust locally and globally.

1149
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 14: Absolutely fantastic.

1150
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to see.

1151
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 12: I mean that was my goal when I went to

1152
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 12: school for to be a footballer and it's great to

1153
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 12: see that the kids are seeing that as a pathway.

1154
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 7: A bit massive mis judgement that by the flat Foils

1155
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 7: they did not have the right of way on Sweitzserland.

1156
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: They made the choice to tell the world what I did.

1157
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 15: So maybe maybe there's a chance that she will shall

1158
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 15: see what you marry the Means to Me sports.

1159
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: Title with us this evening Matt Brown, Oceania Football Confederation

1160
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: media manager and Hamish Mackay, Goldsport Rugby commentator. Lads, Hello, now, Matt,

1161
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to take that close to one hundred and

1162
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to bank it and I'm going to say

1163
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 3: it's back next year. What do you say?

1164
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 19: One hundred percent? Look, it's in one of those popular

1165
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 19: stops on on the circuit. The crowd was massive last year.

1166
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 19: I just can't see it not being in Auckland. And

1167
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 19: and yeah with the black falls being so strong as well,

1168
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 19: I think, yeah, one hundred percent. I'm sure they'll come back.

1169
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 19: I hope the weather's better than what we're probably going

1170
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 19: to get this year.

1171
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: Oh isn't that bad, Homer Shall I look outside, I

1172
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: just see lots of wind. I think that's good for sailing.

1173
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 16: Well, heither, I'm in fielding and it is persisting down

1174
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 16: and there it's understorms. You feel for me, please, I do.

1175
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: What are you doing in field?

1176
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 5: Well?

1177
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 16: I speak a bit of my life here these days,

1178
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 16: so you know. So yeah, so not just a bit

1179
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 16: of work stuff. But looking out the window, I had

1180
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 16: this doesn't move north to Auckland, because I think it's

1181
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 16: a good idea to bring that racing call on Sunday

1182
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 16: if the thunderstorms are coming.

1183
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: Goodness me now, listen, Hamush, tell me how worried to

1184
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: you about Fabian Holland being out of those July tests.

1185
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 16: Fabian Holland is a banker for the future, and he

1186
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 16: will be at the core and in the engine room

1187
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 16: of All Black Rugby for some time to come. I'm

1188
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 16: not at all concerned by that. I mean, I never

1189
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 16: disrespect any tests, but I think get it right. You know,

1190
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 16: it's happened a bad time, but not the worst time.

1191
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 16: So yeah, Look, the big guy's got the big engine,

1192
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 16: he's got the big rig, he's got the big frame.

1193
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 16: Let's just take our time and get him right. We've

1194
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 16: got other guys we can get by with.

1195
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, okay. I like the fact that you're feeling

1196
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: optimistic about it. Are you going to be tuning in

1197
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: for the Super Rugby start this Saturday?

1198
00:56:59,760 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 16: Man?

1199
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 19: Well it's tonight, isn't it tonight?

1200
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1201
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 19: See, we got the Southern Derby, so yeah, absolutely.

1202
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: Does that not illustrate how little I care about the

1203
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: Super Rugby and yet I make an effort. Okay, anyway,

1204
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: carry on.

1205
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by it. I mean you're

1206
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 19: at the start of the season. This is when you

1207
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 19: tend to get some upsets to not necessarily the top

1208
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 19: teams winning winning from the start. But I mean, Holland's

1209
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 19: a big blow for the Highlanders. But I think they

1210
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 19: at home though, were the zoo there packed, so it'll

1211
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 19: be good. And of course the Chiefs and the Well

1212
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 19: depending on whether what the weather is like the Chiefs

1213
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 19: coming to Eden Park for the Blues and suddenly a

1214
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 19: couple of good derbies to get stuck into it. And

1215
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 19: I think we added intriguers with no all black kid

1216
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 19: coach at the moment, you know who the players trying

1217
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 19: to impress. We'll have to wait and see on that one.

1218
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 19: But yeah, similarly, an interesting season.

1219
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: In store point, did you realize, Hamish that the first

1220
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: Super rugby game thirty years ago was in your neck.

1221
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Of the woods.

1222
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 16: I was there and I was commentating for radio and

1223
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 16: it was it was just it just felt so bizarre.

1224
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 16: I remember I was working a few months earlier for

1225
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 16: the Old Ike in Years in London and an opportunity

1226
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 16: came home to come back to a job, and that

1227
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 16: included also commentating on the first Oh what's the super

1228
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 16: et markers and partners in North Yeah, and Hurricanes Blues

1229
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 16: and yeah it was kind of a kind of a

1230
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 16: cool night then yeah, like it was the Blues got

1231
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 16: up that night over a hurricane side. It was still

1232
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 16: all pretty political with selections in those days. I don't

1233
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 16: think we necessarily pick the best players from around the country.

1234
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 16: There was a little bit of way, he's from counties,

1235
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 16: we got one from him. We've got to take somebody

1236
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 16: from five plenty. But hey, thirty years ago, unbelievable and

1237
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 16: in parmy.

1238
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. How time flies. Okay, we'll take a break

1239
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: with you guys. Come back shortly in Sports Huddle quarter

1240
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: to six.

1241
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: The Freddy Sports Huddle with New Zealand South Ofy's International Realty,

1242
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: the only truly global brand.

1243
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: Twelve away from six, back of the Sports Hudle, Hamish

1244
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: Mackay and Matt Brown. Haymish, I'm going to start with

1245
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: you on this. I want your thoughts on Max Vistappen

1246
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: complaining about the.

1247
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 16: Cars find of a real winder. You know, I quite

1248
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 16: like what Lando, and Ira said to say, well, you

1249
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 16: don't have to do it. Go and do something else

1250
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 16: if you want, I mean, don't learn how to be

1251
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 16: a butcher. I don't know, you don't have to be

1252
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 16: racing these cars. And it's all even. It's not like

1253
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 16: the rules don't apply across the teams. I mean, I

1254
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 16: do quite like that description that they're like sort of like,

1255
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 16: you know, he's on steroid, I don't, you know. I

1256
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 16: like the bit of the old grunt, you know, just that,

1257
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 16: but and the noise. We've lost a bit of that.

1258
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 16: But yeah, I don't know. I wonder how far out

1259
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 16: of context it was taken. But end of the day,

1260
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 16: maybe Max isn't feeling that good about his chances of

1261
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 16: getting his championship back.

1262
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: Maybe. But but then again, Matt hasn't he got a point.

1263
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're tuning into Formula one, it's because

1264
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: you want to see cars going as fast as you

1265
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: possibly can and making lots of noise. If you start

1266
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: introducing an EV factor into it to take some of.

1267
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 19: That away one, I mean, any picturehead will tell you

1268
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 19: that's what they that's where they go to the racetracks,

1269
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 19: or you know. I'm not a huge fan of what

1270
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 19: they're proposing, what they're looking to do. I think, you know,

1271
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 19: I mean, any driver wants to go as fast as

1272
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 19: they possibly can and try and win a race, right,

1273
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 19: and so from a driver's perspective, I can see why

1274
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 19: he's saying what he's saying. But but yeah, I don't know.

1275
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 19: I still think he'll be there or thereabouts this year.

1276
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 19: Is that good?

1277
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: Did you see, Matt?

1278
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 16: Because on some excitement, just go on YouTube and look

1279
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 16: up a thing called Formula five thousand used to race

1280
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 16: and needs to be as quick as Formula one. And

1281
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 16: they were just dirty old petrol gouzners that made more

1282
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 16: noise than you know, the average man snort. It was fantastic.

1283
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: Now, Matt, did you see the Variety which is that

1284
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 3: the kids charity? The Variety survey that asked the kids

1285
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: what they want to be when they grow up and

1286
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: number one job that they want to be as a footballer.

1287
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. I Mean, I'm working in football,

1288
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 19: so I'm probably a little bit biased, but but yeah,

1289
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 19: the kids that we're seeing, and you know, you think

1290
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 19: of the opportunities now even here in New Zealand with

1291
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 19: the second team in the A League, with walking on

1292
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 19: their sea being so popular, kids want CC pathways. And

1293
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 19: now you've got South Island United side another professional club

1294
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 19: now playing in the AFC Pro League. So there are

1295
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 19: lots of opportunities right here in New Zealand for players,

1296
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 19: for young players. And yeah it is a growing I

1297
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 19: mean participation wise. We know it at youth level it's

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Speaker 19: incredibly popular along with basketball, and you know there's also

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Speaker 19: a huge growth sport. So yeah, I doesn't have it

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Speaker 19: have it all its own way now. And I also

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Speaker 19: wonder Heather, you know, with the All Blacks having had

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Speaker 19: you know, let's face it, two or three years of

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Speaker 19: being number two or sometimes number three and not really

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Speaker 19: being at the top, maybe the kids aren't saying, you know,

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Speaker 19: being an all black to be all and end all anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, maybe not I And now Hamish, of course we're

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Speaker 3: going to play that all whites are going to play England.

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Speaker 3: So that's I mean, that's only going to do. But

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Speaker 3: surely it's going to pump up the kids, the numbers

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Speaker 3: of kids wanting to play it after that.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it'll be great for it and go into another

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Speaker 16: World Cup of game. Look I just done and the

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Speaker 16: name escapes. Met ll know exactly who I'm talking about.

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Speaker 16: The all white to play for with cam United, and

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Speaker 16: it's weekly late Winston Reed, yeah and reed his weekly

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Speaker 16: Wavesville and he didn't always start was more than the

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Speaker 16: whole Crusader's entity from you know, from the groundsman through

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Speaker 16: to the CEO in every player in a week every week,

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Speaker 16: so you can kind of get. And I think longevity

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Speaker 16: in the game too, and it's kind of football is

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Speaker 16: kind of cool. I mean you're talking to guys followed

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Speaker 16: with ten seventy five and men. No, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 16: I know I made a crust out of following rugby,

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Speaker 16: but I turned the game. You know that that's the

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Speaker 16: round bullg and Matt mentioned basketball too. Rugby's got a

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Speaker 16: huge problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Okay, Matt, how much do

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Speaker 3: you reckon that Norwegian bio athletes teammates hate him?

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Speaker 19: I think a lot I self. So, I mean, can

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Speaker 19: anyone remember the gold Middle? The Gold Middle is the

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01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 19: name of that guy who won the gold as you

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Speaker 19: can't the limelight, and she's not having them back from

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Speaker 19: all accounts too, from what we've at least one thes

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Speaker 19: have being said, so so it's kind of backfid on him.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, do you know what if you were

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Speaker 3: the parents, if you were the parent of that girl

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Speaker 3: and you saw him blubbing away on television like that,

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Speaker 3: you'd want to you'd want to go over and punch him. Ay,

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Speaker 3: you tell her stay away from that fool.

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Speaker 16: It stays left left be the classic narcissist. You know

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Speaker 16: what a plunker really? You know, no, you play snape.

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Speaker 16: You know he's never going to look that down. He's

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Speaker 16: going to be haunted by that.

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Speaker 3: I love it. You guys are great, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Look after yourself. As Matt Brown, Hamish mackay our sports

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Speaker 3: huddle this evening. You know what narcissist isn't that bang

1347
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: on Ah, That's what he is. Seven away from six

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Speaker 3: it's the.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my Heart

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Speaker 2: Radio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be dead right, Heather. This is read the formula one.

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Speaker 3: They're going to drop this ev shite pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what?

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Speaker 3: Maybe that maybe I suspect they will as well, because

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Speaker 3: I think you know, it's it's who wants to watch?

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: Who wants to watch? F one When it's hobbled by

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Speaker 3: electric batteries. Having said that, though the weirdest thing for

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01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: me is the fact that they've done this the whole

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: world At the moment, you'd have to say, if you

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01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: had to measure, like, where is the momentum on climate

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: change at the moment, it's actually moving away from the

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: extreme and radical position that we were in to a

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Speaker 3: like it's away from being psychos about climate change, except

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Speaker 3: for obviously F one, which is like no worth. Still

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Speaker 3: we're going in the other direction, which does feel a

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Speaker 3: little kind of like counter counter to what everybody else

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Speaker 3: is doing. Anyway, Listen, there's a thing that's going on

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Speaker 3: between the US and China at the moment over Taiwan,

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Speaker 3: because Trump's supposed to go to Beijing shortly, but Beijing

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Speaker 3: has now said publicly that if he continues with this

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Speaker 3: arms deal that he's got for Taiwan, they may well

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Speaker 3: cancel the visits. So we'll talk to Peter. It's probably bs,

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Speaker 3: but we'll talk to Peter Lewis about it when he's

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Speaker 3: with us after half past six. So I was telling

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Speaker 3: you yesterday, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, who's one of the most

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Speaker 3: wealthy men you know, from Britain. Doesn't live in Britain anymore,

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Speaker 3: but from Britain. He had claimed that Britain. He's given

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Speaker 3: this controversial and and it turned out to be as

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Speaker 3: controversial as I thought it would to Sky TV in

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Speaker 3: which he claimed that Britain had been colonized by by immigrants,

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Speaker 3: and it made Sir Kias Starmer come out and be

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01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: angry about a Kaserkias Stamer was frankly grateful for anything

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: that wasn't related to the Epstein drama. Sir Jim Ratcliffe

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Speaker 3: has now apologized for what he said, but it's one

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Speaker 3: of those sort of like Chloe Swarbrick sorry for saying

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: the thing about Palestine apologies, which is not really an apology,

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Speaker 3: it's a sorry for being offended by what I said apology.

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Speaker 3: He said, I'm sorry that my choice of language has

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Speaker 3: offended some people in the UK and EU, as if

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Speaker 3: to say he's not actually sorry, he's just sorry that

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Speaker 3: you got offended by it anyway. Mike Pearce is with

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Speaker 3: us at about quarter to seven out of the UK.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy chat dam about that again. Erica Stanford with

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Speaker 3: us next on the Golden Visa bringing in the dollars

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Speaker 3: and the immigration numbers.

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Speaker 2: News talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be I can't call you.

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Speaker 14: Grease you.

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Speaker 3: Just a little more.

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Speaker 2: Where business com meets insight, the Business Hour with header

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Speaker 2: duplicy elent and mas insurance and investments, your futures in

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Speaker 1: News talks that be.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour. Peter Lewis

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01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: on that fall in Chinese car sales. Barry Sober will

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 3: rap the political week that was, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: go to the UK for the fallout and the immigrants

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Speaker 3: comments over there. It's seven past six and back here.

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Speaker 3: And also on the subject of immigration, the Golden Visa

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Speaker 3: appears to be a success. It's attracted five hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy three applications, one billion dollars has already been invested,

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Speaker 3: and two point three four billion dollars will be invested

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Speaker 3: in the next six months. Immigration Minister Erica Stanford is

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Speaker 3: with us now, Hi, Erica, good afternoon. Where's the money going?

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Speaker 20: Oh, all sorts of fabulous places. A lot of it

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Speaker 20: is going into venture capital and private equity. In fact,

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Speaker 20: today we were announcing the smilestone at a business that

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Speaker 20: was a software as a service business in the horticulture sector.

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 20: Are now able to go to the next piece of

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01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 20: technology that they're going to be inventing and taking to

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Speaker 20: the world and employing more people. So it's phenomenally successful,

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Speaker 20: but most of the money is going into managed funds.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic Now it looks to me like I had a

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Speaker 3: look back when you announced that foreigners would be able

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Speaker 3: to buy houses. The number of applications from that point

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Speaker 3: to now seems to have ramped up. Has that made

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Speaker 3: a difference, It's hard to know.

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Speaker 20: We were on the trajectory we're on was ramping up anyway.

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Speaker 20: There's a number of reasons for that. The world is

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Speaker 20: in a bit of a tumultuous state at the moment.

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Speaker 20: I think it probably has had an impact. It's really

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Speaker 20: hard to tell yet because we haven't finalized the regulations

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Speaker 20: around the house buying yet, so no one's been able

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Speaker 20: to buy a house. But until that happens, we won't know.

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Speaker 20: But no doubt it has had some impact.

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Speaker 3: And how seriously do you take this business of the

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Speaker 3: Trump effect?

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Speaker 20: I think it's not just that it's worldwide. There is

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 20: an unrest in the world at the moment, and if

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Speaker 20: you look at Europe, we've got significant numbers coming out

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01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 20: of Europe. In fact, the numbers out of Germany are significant,

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Speaker 20: so it's not just that part of the world, it's

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Speaker 20: Europe as well. So we are seen as a safe

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Speaker 20: haven with fabulous natural resources, of stable government, great people,

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01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 20: a wonderful place to raise a family, and investors are

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Speaker 20: excited to do business here.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Now, are you seeing We've got our migration stats

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Speaker 3: out from stats n Z today. Are you seeing anything

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Speaker 3: in those numbers that you actually like?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 20: I like the fact that the numbers of people are

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 20: leaving turning, which is good because we want New Zealanders

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Speaker 20: to stay here. We want them to see opportunity here.

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Speaker 20: I'm very comfortable with the numbers at the moment. I mean,

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Speaker 20: there was always the people who predict these things had

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Speaker 20: said that we were going to go into negative net migration.

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Speaker 20: I was confident that that wasn't going to happen. But

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Speaker 20: it has stabilized around that sort of fourteen fifteen thousand mark,

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Speaker 20: which is historically low the last twenty years or so,

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Speaker 20: it's about twenty thousand on average with peaks, as you know.

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Speaker 20: But we have done a huge amount of tightening over

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Speaker 20: the last two years to encourage highly skilled migrants who

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Speaker 20: have the skills and talent that we need. Because before

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Speaker 20: we came in, we had net migration running at one

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Speaker 20: hundred and thirty five thousand and a huge proportion of

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Speaker 20: unskilled people who are coming in not properly vetted and

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Speaker 20: were vulnerable to migrant exploitation. We've completely turned that around.

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Speaker 21: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: The thing that I liked in those numbers was the

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Speaker 3: fact that there was a higher number of kiwi's coming back.

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Speaker 3: What do you plut that down to?

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Speaker 20: Well, I think all the work that we've done over

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Speaker 20: the last couple of years of know as our catch cry,

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Speaker 20: doing the basics brilliantly, and now they can see there's

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Speaker 20: a future here for them in New Zealand. And look,

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Speaker 20: this is always cyclical. If you go back over time

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Speaker 20: and look at the economy, and as we dip and

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Speaker 20: grow and dip and grow, migration and Kiwi numbers leaving

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Speaker 20: and coming back followed that exact same curve. And now

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Speaker 20: you're seeing the economy strengthen, more confidence in the economy

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Speaker 20: starting to flow, and you will see people returning to

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Speaker 20: New Zealand, which is a great sign.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff, Hey Erica, thank you for your time. Appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Erica Standford, the Immigration minister. Do you remember back in

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Speaker 3: Budget Jesus almost a budget twenty twenty six? Do you

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: realize that that's such as a three months time but

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Speaker 3: budget twenty twenty five the centerpiece there was the investment boost.

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Speaker 3: Turns out it's only had very low uptake. Iid reckons

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Speaker 3: only about eleven percent of businesses that they surveyed have

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Speaker 3: reported a significant increase in spending from the policy. Look

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Speaker 3: to be fair, another twenty nine percent had somewhat increased

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Speaker 3: their spending because of the policy. My bet is probably

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Speaker 3: related to the economy might improve as the economy improves,

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Speaker 3: so keep an eye out on that one. Twelve past six, It's.

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Speaker 2: The Heather duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Dupercy Ellen on the Business Hour with mass

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Speaker 2: insurance and investments, Your futures in good hands used talks

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Speaker 2: that'd be.

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Speaker 3: Heather is a main car dealer in christ Church selling

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Speaker 3: used in new vans. I've seen a huge uptick this

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Speaker 3: year from trade's upgrading and planning for a better twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six, which is awesome to see and it's all

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Speaker 3: taking advantage of the investment boost guarantee. Well and please

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Speaker 3: to hear that. Thank you, Lance coming up called to

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Speaker 3: past six Barry Soper wrapping the political week that was

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Speaker 3: welcome back Barry.

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Speaker 14: Hello again, Heather.

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Speaker 3: I guess so do you think the government is going

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Speaker 3: to proceed not with the al and G facility but

1512
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: with the levee attached to the Allen councilent.

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Speaker 14: Well that's the interesting aspect, isn't it.

1514
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 10: That.

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Speaker 14: Look, ACT hadn't really made their position that clear yet

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 14: with me, I think they have and you think they won't.

1517
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: No, publicly they are still supporting the levee, but I

1518
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: do not see how ACT can support the levy. Surely,

1519
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 3: to God, the party that has promised lower taxes cannot

1520
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 3: increase taxes on us.

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 14: So and you could say that of the government as well.

1522
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 14: Is the National Party they campaigned at the last election

1523
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 14: on no new taxes. Well, you know there's an argument

1524
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 14: where levy is a tax and whether it's a do they.

1525
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,919
Speaker 3: Proceed with a barry or do they find another elegant

1526
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: way to get to pay for this?

1527
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 14: Well, the most elegant way to pay for it would

1528
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 14: be to introduce in the legislation a requirement by the

1529
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Speaker 14: electricity companies, who are making massive money in profits at

1530
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 14: the moment, to require them to swallow the cost of

1531
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 14: setting this thing up, because it's basically an insurance policy

1532
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 14: for them as well that the supply of electricity won't

1533
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 14: run out when our hydro dams are low. So you know,

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01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 14: they could do that by legislation, which will take that

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 14: levy right out of play when it comes to their householder.

1536
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 14: And if there's a requirement that electricity companies can't hand

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 14: it all, that would be the requirement, and I would

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 14: think you would get much better support from the support part.

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: I also think that no one is stupid enough to

1540
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: think that they would work. We'll find ways to pass

1541
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: it on, like any good corporate would.

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01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 14: Well, you know, there are ways to detect whether that

1543
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 14: money is being passed on, and there are plenty of

1544
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 14: ink the bottom line. Yeah, well, that's the only thing

1545
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 14: I can see that would avoid this aspect, because I

1546
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 14: think they're doing the right thing. I think an lb

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01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 14: LNG facility is required because we saw in twenty twenty

1548
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 14: four lights going out in the country, and you know,

1549
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 14: for a first world country. That should never happen.

1550
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 3: So I think you know there are increasing there are

1551
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: mounting arguments to suggest that this is a white elephant.

1552
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 14: Well, is that we do pay a risk element in

1553
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 14: our power bills. If that risk element could be then

1554
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 14: removed after this facility is built, that would save money

1555
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 14: as well. But you know, honestly, to come out and

1556
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 14: say say this is going to save household is fifty

1557
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 14: dollars a year, It's not even a dollar a week.

1558
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to

1559
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: spend that dollar on. I have no idea. By then,

1560
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 3: it'll be probably one slice of vocals. Now what do

1561
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 3: you make of the Labor Party MPs two of them,

1562
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 3: Willie Jackson being one, saying they're going to work with

1563
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: the Maori Party. At that point, Chippy must have just

1564
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 3: like put his hand his head and his head in

1565
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 3: his hands.

1566
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,879
Speaker 14: Surely, well he would, wouldn't he, Because look, the biggest

1567
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 14: thing counting against the Labor which to its credit, is

1568
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 14: polling well against the National Party. The biggest achilles heel

1569
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 14: that they are going to face come the election is

1570
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 14: they are unlikely to get where they were in twenty

1571
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 14: twenty and to have an outright majority that's highly unlikely

1572
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 14: and it won't happen. They will need coalition partners. Well,

1573
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 14: you know, people probably could live with the Greens, although

1574
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 14: some of their policies.

1575
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: Are wacky and it depends on what they I think.

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: You know what, no one will live with the Greens

1577
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: and their wealth tax ideas, So that ain't so the

1578
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 3: Greens are already a problem, never mind what's going on

1579
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 3: with the market.

1580
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 14: And then we come to the Milder You Party. Well,

1581
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 14: you know, we ain't heard the last of what's going

1582
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 14: on with that party yet, still before the courts. Who

1583
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 14: knows where it's going to end up. Who knows whether

1584
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 14: John tammy Head he's going to be there. Who knows

1585
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 14: with his son in law weight he te is going

1586
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 14: to be there. I mean, you know that party is

1587
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 14: an absolute shambles at the moment and even they must

1588
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 14: wake up at night. And so how the hell are

1589
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 14: we going to fix this?

1590
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 18: Hey?

1591
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: Did you hear Marris Williamson on the Huddle this week's

1592
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 3: talking about Winston No melted the best argument for why

1593
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: Winston absolutely should have gone to the boxing, and his

1594
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 3: argument was simply, if you are a foreign minister. You

1595
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: should be if you can at the big events that

1596
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 3: involve New Zealand around the world. So the minute he

1597
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: got an invitation to the boxing, to go, well to

1598
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: the boxing, never mind anything else.

1599
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 14: Do you remember my argument was there's nothing wrong with

1600
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 14: him building Alis.

1601
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: Morris was more eloquent.

1602
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 14: Oh was he more reloquent?

1603
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 20: Oh?

1604
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 14: Well Morris, I take my head off to us.

1605
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 3: Also he used to be a diplomat, and well he was.

1606
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 14: He was a diplomat in Los Angeles. It was the

1607
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 14: New Zealand consult General.

1608
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 3: Where were you a diplomat? Well, nowhere either.

1609
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 14: I sit on this program every day being a diplomat.

1610
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: Good from you, Barry, Thank you very much, Thank you

1611
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 3: very so, senior political correspondent, rapping the political week.

1612
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 6: That was.

1613
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 3: Just quick update for you on the Chloe Swarbrick documentary movie.

1614
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 3: Just in case you were like thinking that, geez, that's

1615
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: something I can't wait to watch this ye hanging out

1616
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: for it. It's been delayed. It's been filmed, by the way,

1617
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: So in case you're also thinking this thing is never

1618
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 3: gonna happen, it is going to happen. It's been filmed.

1619
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: It's now in post production. Sky TV has the TV right.

1620
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: It's been delayed for good reason because this year is

1621
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: an election year and it's probably not the right thing

1622
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: to do to be putting out a documentary about one

1623
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 3: of the political leaders and not the others. But it's

1624
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 3: still coming, so don't worry. You might be able to

1625
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 3: watch it in twenty twenty seven. Hooray six twenty one.

1626
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

1627
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with the DUPERICLA and MAS insurance

1628
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: and investments, Your futures in good hands news talks.

1629
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 3: That'd be Peter Lewis is going to be us out

1630
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: of Hong Kong in around about fifteen minutes time. Talk

1631
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: us through whether China will actually cancel Donald Trump's visit

1632
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: if he gives Taiwan money. Probably not, but anyway we'll

1633
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 3: have a chat about it.

1634
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 14: Here.

1635
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: The interesting reading the one hundred and five comments on

1636
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: stuff regarding the Golden visa. They don't express much faith

1637
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: in Erica, so called Save New Zealand narrative. Have a read. Well,

1638
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: actually that is fair, I am having a read now.

1639
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 3: The trick with the comments, obviously is you don't read

1640
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: them as they've given them to you because basically you

1641
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: just read it in chronological order, like the newest one. First,

1642
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 3: you want to go to the ones that are most respected.

1643
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: The most respected comment on these comments is, you know,

1644
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: just not one cent of this money we'll ever go

1645
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 3: towards improving the day to day lives of every day Kiwis.

1646
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 3: The second second most commented is most respected brother is

1647
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: hold on, how on earth do you expect that three

1648
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,839
Speaker 3: point four billion dollars could be pumped into the economy

1649
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: and not improve the lives of every day Kiwis. Please

1650
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: give me your reasoning. And so the debate goes on

1651
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: what I'm always surprised by, and so the yeah, there's

1652
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 3: a lot of negativity, But what I'm always surprised by

1653
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 3: is this kind of vibe, same old, same old national

1654
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 3: selling us to anyone for a mere five million dollars.

1655
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 5: Why.

1656
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 3: I've never understood that, and I've heard that expressed so

1657
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 3: many times, the idea that somehow we're selling ourselves. We

1658
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: should be grateful. Frankly, if anyone has five million dollars

1659
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 3: worth a foreign with a foreign capital that they want

1660
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 3: to come and invest in this country, that's jobs' that's

1661
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 3: gst take that's paying for your retirement. I don't get it.

1662
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 3: I mean it's not like it's not all you know.

1663
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: I mean we all have to pass through all of

1664
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 3: those you've got to jump through the hoops in order

1665
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: to come here. But we should be welcoming foreign capital.

1666
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 3: I would have thought anyway. Every Olympics is twenty five passics.

1667
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 3: By the way, every Olympics has someone who steals the show, right,

1668
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 3: and this will I'm like, and you're wondering, We'll give

1669
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 3: me an example, Raygun the breakdancing this Winter Olympics. It's

1670
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 3: a guy that they're calling the curling Rambo. So he's

1671
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 3: part of the curling team for the US. His name

1672
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 3: is Aiden Oldenburg. He is a pretty he's a pretty

1673
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: normal looking guy. And I'm being generous when I say

1674
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,480
Speaker 3: he's a pretty normal looking guy. He is an environmental

1675
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 3: scientist and looks every bit of an environmental scientist. Do

1676
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, you're not going to

1677
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 3: put him on your sexy calendar. But he turns up

1678
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 3: at the at the curling just with a red bandana

1679
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: around his head, which is a very marcho butch. Look

1680
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 3: for a sport that none of us would be considering

1681
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 3: as being Marcho or Butch. Anyway, he has just stolen,

1682
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 3: has captured the imagination of people. He's stolen people's hearts.

1683
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: All of his fans are now turning up with the

1684
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 3: red bandanas on as well, and part of the appeal

1685
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: I think is probably just that it's such a wacky

1686
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 3: thing to do in such a weird sport. Anyway, not

1687
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 3: only is he in his free time, part of what

1688
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: they like is what he does on the side. It's

1689
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: always the side story that appeals to people as well.

1690
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 3: He's a curler and an environmental scientist and a juggler

1691
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 3: who juggles with flaming torches and machetes. So maybe I

1692
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 3: should withdraw and apologize. He is actually quite Marcho and Butch,

1693
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 3: isn't he.

1694
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business. This is.

1695
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 3: Lizlie McGuire in the Hillary Duff She's coming to town

1696
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: for her first ever New Zealand show. It's been fifteen

1697
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 3: years since Hilary Duff starred in the iconic show that

1698
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: became an obsession for just about every teenage girl.

1699
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 18: I'm an outfit read when you're an outfit rememberer, which

1700
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 18: is just as.

1701
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: Pathetic now she's getting ready to set off on a

1702
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 3: world tour that will hit New Zealand in October this year.

1703
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 3: When it's the last time that you were I honestly

1704
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 3: think maybe ten years ago. I had a radio show,

1705
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: one single radio show, A long time ago. It has

1706
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 3: been a while long time between between drinks, as they say.

1707
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: But she's back, and she's got a whole lot of

1708
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 3: new music as well. She's got a new album called

1709
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 3: Luck or Something dropping next week and it's guaranteed to

1710
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 3: be both fresh and nostalgic. Songs from the new album

1711
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: have already garnered millions of views. Tickets Fair Taylor Swift,

1712
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 3: doesn't it? That was Fairy Taylor Swift. Yeah. Now, ticket

1713
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 3: sales kickoff on the same day as the album drop,

1714
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: which is the twentieth of February. Just I was alarmed

1715
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 3: at how corny that show sounds. Fifteen years on.

1716
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 18: I'm an outfit, You're an outfit rememberer, which is just

1717
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 18: as pathetic.

1718
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 11: Do you know what?

1719
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: Is it?

1720
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 3: Almost like Chitty Chitty Bang bang ish, isn't it? Anyway?

1721
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: News is next, and then we've got to Peter Lewis

1722
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: and we talk all things Asia and business. Next News

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Speaker 3: talks that be.

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Speaker 1: At doing fun.

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Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business hour

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Speaker 2: with header duper clan and maths, insurance and investments, your

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Speaker 2: futures in good ads used talks, I'd be who know.

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Speaker 3: To the UK shortly, I'm going to talk through the

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Speaker 3: continuing fallout from those the immigrants are colonizing US comments.

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand share market is suffered one of its

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Speaker 3: biggest falls in five years. So this is on the

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Speaker 3: back of AI concerns, ongoing AI concerns. It's fallen two

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Speaker 3: point four six percent. Now you may be surprised to

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Speaker 3: know that that's actually bigger than the two point three

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Speaker 3: percent drop which happened on April twenty two last year

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Speaker 3: when Donald Trump introduced the Liberation Day and the US

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Speaker 3: tariffs inz Index Index now falling nearly two point nine

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Speaker 3: percent so far, twenty four away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Hither do to see US earning US now?

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Speaker 3: Is Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent out of Hong Kong. Hi,

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Speaker 3: Peter Hi there head so got a new prime minister

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Speaker 3: obviously in Japan, but problems already.

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Speaker 11: Well she's her problem is how to use this supermajority

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Speaker 11: that she has, which gives her control of parliaments. But

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Speaker 11: she has got to be a bit careful because she's

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Speaker 11: got a number of issues to try and deal with.

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Speaker 11: Probably the most important is the economy. Japan's been suffering

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Speaker 11: really not just years, decades of sluggish growth, growing right

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Speaker 11: back to the Abbe years and before that even. She

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Speaker 11: needs to try and revive that growth, but at the

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Speaker 11: same time without fueling the inflation that really has been

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Speaker 11: one of the main reasons why she came into power

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Speaker 11: in the first place. Chinese households and consumers have suffered

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Speaker 11: from all the wage rises that they've been being wiped

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Speaker 11: out by inflation, and staple foods like rice, for example,

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Speaker 11: they doubled in price last year. So this is a

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Speaker 11: big issue for her to try and deal with. She

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Speaker 11: wants to try and boost the economy by tax cuts,

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Speaker 11: She's offering relief from vat on food. She's going to

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Speaker 11: go out and borrow more money to spend on particular areas.

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Speaker 11: But again, you know, the markets might not allow her

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Speaker 11: to do that so easily. They're already very jittery about

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Speaker 11: the amount of debt japan Os. It's more than two

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Speaker 11: hundred and fifty percent of GDP, the highest in the

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Speaker 11: developed world. So and bond yields are rising quite fast

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Speaker 11: in Japan, so the markets may have something to say

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Speaker 11: about that. And she's also got problems with the demographics.

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Speaker 11: Japan has almost as bad demographics as China does. People

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Speaker 11: are getting older, the birth rate is too low, she's

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Speaker 11: got a rapidly aging workforce. She doesn't want allow immigration

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Speaker 11: or increase immigration because politically that's very difficult for her party.

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Speaker 11: So she's hoping she can sort of boost productivity through

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Speaker 11: things like ai but the risk is that those gains

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Speaker 11: may take a long time to come through. And then, fourthly,

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Speaker 11: she's got problems geopolitically, particularly with China. She's upset China

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Speaker 11: already with her comments on Taiwan and China's sort of

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Speaker 11: urging economic boycotts of Japan encouraging people not to travel

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Speaker 11: to Japan next week, which is the Chinese New Year.

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Speaker 11: And she's got to work out how to try and

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Speaker 11: mend relationships with China because that's her biggest trading partner.

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Speaker 3: What happened with the China castles?

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Speaker 11: Why the fall, Well, it's because the domestic market is

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Speaker 11: just so so competitive now and so saturated that there's

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Speaker 11: more than one hundred automaker in China, way way too many.

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Speaker 11: But they're sort of propped up by sort of local governments, subsidies,

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Speaker 11: in some cases state support, and the result of all

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Speaker 11: of this is that there's a lot of overproduction and

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Speaker 11: in particular, really damaging price wars going on on the mainland,

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Speaker 11: which means that there's a lot of ruthless price cutting

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Speaker 11: and cars are being sold below cost. So it's sort

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Speaker 11: of almost reached for the big manufacturers anyway, a saturation

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Speaker 11: point where they just can't grow anymore. They're trying to

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Speaker 11: upset that by selling more overseas, but they do have

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Speaker 11: problems in that the US is pretty well banned altogether

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Speaker 11: Chinese vehicles being sold there, and the EU has put

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Speaker 11: tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, saying that, you know, they're

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Speaker 11: unfairly supported by the states. So it's one of those

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Speaker 11: things where initially it was quite good, you know, having

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Speaker 11: all these cheap cars, but it's now turned out to

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Speaker 11: be rather counterproductive.

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Speaker 3: Now, how do you rate the chances that China actually

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Speaker 3: cancels the summit, because it's probably not going to as it.

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Speaker 11: My view is that it isn't going to happen. I

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Speaker 11: know Donald Trump is pushing this very hard. He wants

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Speaker 11: to have his visits to Beijing in April. There is

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Speaker 11: a sort of truce in the trade war between the

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Speaker 11: two countries at the moment, tariffs have been reduced, although

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Speaker 11: they're still very high compared to where they were a

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Speaker 11: year ago. I just think that for both parties this

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Speaker 11: could be politically a very fraught visit unless they can

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Speaker 11: agree and advance some solutions to some pretty intractable problems.

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Speaker 11: The number one red line for China is, of course, Taiwan.

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Speaker 11: And what China isn't happy about is Donald Trump's selling

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Speaker 11: weapons to Taiwan. And He's just authorized a big increase

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Speaker 11: in weapon sales to the island, and that could easily

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Speaker 11: sort of up end relationships between the two before he

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Speaker 11: even gets to Beijing. But part of the problem is,

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Speaker 11: of course, is that Donald Trump wants Taiwan to spend

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Speaker 11: more money on weapons. Is encouraging a lot of countries

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Speaker 11: around Asia to spend more money on their own defense.

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Speaker 11: Taiwan is happy to do it, but it needs America

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Speaker 11: to sell it the things it wants to buy. Advanced weapons,

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Speaker 11: aircraft and so on. So this is going to be

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Speaker 11: a very very thought problem. I still think the trade

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Speaker 11: problems have not gone away. Although there's a calmness at

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Speaker 11: the moment, you feel that this could just flare up

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Speaker 11: again at any time between now and April.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point. Hey, thank you, Peter, you look after yourself.

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Speaker 3: Have a nice week in We'll talk to you in

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Speaker 3: a week. That's Peter Lewis out Asia Business correspondent. Do

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Speaker 3: you want some sleep data? This is I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give this to you, and I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to give you an immediate disclaimer and say I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure how legit it is, but I will note

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Speaker 3: that the sleep data has put out every single year.

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Speaker 3: Why are you going to go like me? Is this legit?

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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 3: Because it's put out by the curtain and blinds maker

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Speaker 3: Hillary's in the UK. So but every year they put

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Speaker 3: it out and every year we come out on top.

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Speaker 3: Apparently Kiwis get the most sleep in the world, and

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Speaker 3: once again we're right up there on the top. We

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Speaker 3: were averaging apparently seven hours and twenty seven minutes in

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Speaker 3: bed every single night. Next up is the Dutch. They're

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Speaker 3: doing seven hours twenty four, then the finish seven hours

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Speaker 3: twenty three, then the UK seven hours twenty two, Ozzie, Belgium, Ireland, Sweden, France, Denmark,

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Speaker 3: Denmark's and it's seven hours fourteen. The countries which get

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Speaker 3: the least sleep Japan actually five hours fifty two, and

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Speaker 3: then South Korea six hours and two minutes, Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 3: six hours two minutes, Philippines six hours eight minutes. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: why so my first my first question mark was because

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Speaker 3: it was coming from a curtains and blinds company, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, your actual expertise in sleep is just related

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Speaker 3: to the fact that you keep it dark for me,

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Speaker 3: So thanks for that, but you know, it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: you an expert. The other reason that I was a

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Speaker 3: bit like, is this for real? Is because apparently our

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Speaker 3: bedtime on average, and this makes us the earliest people

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Speaker 3: to go to bed in the world. Right, so we

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Speaker 3: are the earliest in the world to go to bed.

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Speaker 3: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: No, it's not like Mike Hosking who turns the light

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Speaker 3: out at six o'clock at night, how past eleven? Apparently

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Speaker 3: on average we're all going to bed at half past eleven.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but if I was going

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Speaker 3: to bed at half past eleven and every single night,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between

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Speaker 3: my perimenopause and my lack of sleep, because I would

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Speaker 3: just be psycho all the time. Anyway, who goes to

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Speaker 3: bed next? Oh, Australia half past eleven? We go to

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Speaker 3: bed four minutes earlier. We're eleven twenty nine. They are

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Speaker 3: eleven thirty three.

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Speaker 1: That's bs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is absolute nonsense. Isn't every single parent

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Speaker 3: in this country knows we're not going to be that late,

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Speaker 3: like ten o'clock lights out, sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you

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Speaker 2: the business hour with duper c Allen and Mayor's insurance

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Speaker 2: and investments and your futures. In good heads US.

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Speaker 3: Talks, it'd be hither farmers in bed eight thirty. That's

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Speaker 3: how you know that that surveyors completely isn't completely made

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Speaker 3: up Because we're a nation of farmers. We're not staying

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Speaker 3: up to all help us living at night? Are we

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Speaker 3: thirteen away from seven? Mike Pso UK correspondents with us.

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Speaker 1: Ello Mike and very good evening, How things.

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Speaker 3: You good now, Sir Jim Redcliffe has just done that

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Speaker 3: sorry not sorry thing, hasn't he.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Indeed, he made some comments about immigration, effectively saying that

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Speaker 21: you know, so many immigrants have come to the UK

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Speaker 21: effectively being overpopulated. Look, he put out some figures saying

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Speaker 21: that there had been in the last five years an

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Speaker 21: increase due to immigration of around twelve million people and

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Speaker 21: in fact, if you look at the official figures, it's

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Speaker 21: nearer three. This caused a big row here, a secure

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Speaker 21: style of the Prime Minister sort of said this is

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Speaker 21: just totally unacceptable and effectively slap in the face for

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Speaker 21: people in Britain, particularly immigrants in Britain. Now following the

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Speaker 21: he of course is the joint owner of Manchester United

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Speaker 21: football club. The club put out a statement. Then he

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Speaker 21: put out a statement saying he was sorry if you

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Speaker 21: upset any body because of the language he used. But

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Speaker 21: he says, you know, it is a debate here and

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Speaker 21: he's not backtracking from saying he shouldn't have raised the issue.

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Speaker 21: It's more about the language he used and the way

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Speaker 21: he raised it. So it's something that for the last

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Speaker 21: day here has certainly been raging.

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Speaker 3: Where do you think popular opinion falls on this, because

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Speaker 3: I see Nigel Farage took the opportunity immediately put out

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Speaker 3: an op ed and basically back him up.

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Speaker 21: Look, it's a big issue here, It's a really really

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Speaker 21: big issue. The last Conservative government really didn't get a

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Speaker 21: grip on it. And we are still seeing, you know,

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Speaker 21: crossing the English Channel from Calais to Dover, we are

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Speaker 21: still seeing the small boats were still seeing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 21: I think last year was an almost record year with that.

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Speaker 21: So in the polls certainly you know, ferg is doing

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Speaker 21: really really well. We have this key by election coming up,

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Speaker 21: the one that Andy Burnham was not allowed to stand in,

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Speaker 21: and I think that's going to be the real test

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Speaker 21: for Starmer. Actually, all the polls here seemed to be

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Speaker 21: saying that Forage Party Reform will win, that potentially Starmer

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Speaker 21: will come last. And I think that's going to be

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Speaker 21: the next really big thing where we see the threat

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Speaker 21: for Starmer actually, because I think you know, if they

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Speaker 21: do really, really really badly, they will there be yet

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Speaker 21: more calls for him to resign.

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Speaker 3: Yep, fair point. Okay, Now, what on earth are the

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Speaker 3: French and the Canadians doing in Greenland? Is just just

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Speaker 3: mischief making.

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Speaker 21: Well, it's a highly unusual step, but they kind of

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Speaker 21: set up a kind of embassy really, both for France

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Speaker 21: and Canada. It's in protest that Trump wanting to take

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Speaker 21: over the territory. Delegation of senior officials from both countries

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Speaker 21: have taken part in special ceremonies. Flags were raised and

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Speaker 21: all that stuff that was going on there. The country

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Speaker 21: says to symbolize their long term commitment and stand together

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Speaker 21: with the people of Greenland and Denmark. Of course, Trump

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Speaker 21: says he wants to take control of Greenland for security reasons.

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Speaker 21: It's very well placed for him because it's closer to

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Speaker 21: Russia and China. The critics say is also due to

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Speaker 21: large reserves of gas and oil as well. Now, it's

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Speaker 21: highly unusual to open an embassy in a state that

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Speaker 21: only has fifty seven thousand people, but perhaps not surprising,

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Speaker 21: Canada's taking a standard. Of course, Trump wants that country

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Speaker 21: as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Norway is worried about invasion and do you think

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Speaker 3: this is a fair threat.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think there's been increased activity from Russia into

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Speaker 21: Norway in recent times, so much so it's been discussed

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Speaker 21: in Europe. This week at the European Parliament, and countries

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Speaker 21: including the United Kingdom, are increasing the number of troops there.

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Speaker 21: I think we currently have about nine hundred that's going

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Speaker 21: to go up to two thousand. There's going to be

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Speaker 21: a big exercise in September, so I think, you know,

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Speaker 21: early days. But there does seem to be some threat

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Speaker 21: up there, but of course you know it's not. It's

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Speaker 21: much worse that it would be with Ukraine because effectively

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Speaker 21: it would be potentially fighting the of Europe. So we'll

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Speaker 21: have to wait and see on that one. But certainly

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Speaker 21: the countries are saying they feel there's a threat and

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Speaker 21: they just want to get their their manpower back up

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Speaker 21: there and troops up there to really say to Russia,

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Speaker 21: look we are here, don't try and invade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, thank you very much, look after yourself, mate,

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Speaker 3: Mike Pso, UK correspondent. Hither on another subject, why is

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand media giving so much attention to the

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Speaker 3: christ Church terrorists because this is just what he wants?

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Speaker 5: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you raised that because I have been thinking

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Speaker 3: about this in the last week. I mean, clearly the

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Speaker 3: clown is after attention, isn't he I mean, you'd have

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Speaker 3: to say that that's got to be a possibility. So

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Speaker 3: he pleads guilty and then what like years, lady, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to buy banks, you want to not play

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Speaker 3: guilty anymore? And what do you think that's about. That's

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Speaker 3: got to be potentially about about wanting attention? And you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of I mean, I've been criticizing

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Speaker 3: the legacy media today, so I'm not going to defend

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Speaker 3: them unnecessarily. But it is a tricky one, this one, right,

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Speaker 3: because he might want attention, but I also who I'm

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Speaker 3: meet you. We are all paying for his incarceration, and

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Speaker 3: we are the wider community that he's affected, so we

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Speaker 3: have an interest in what's up and what's what he's

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Speaker 3: up to, and what his arguments are and what the

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Speaker 3: arguments against Adara and blah blah blah. So this is

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Speaker 3: the job of the news media is to tell us

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Speaker 3: the news. The guy is the worst terrorist in the

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Speaker 3: country's history. He is legitimate news. So on the balance

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Speaker 3: of that, I would say it's the right thing to

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Speaker 3: cover from I just I'm wondering, though, why I haven't

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Speaker 3: I've noticed that there's not a lot of audio and

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Speaker 3: video of him. And I'm not sure how much of

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Speaker 3: that has got to do with court orders and how

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Speaker 3: much of that has got to do with self censorship.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not called with self censorship, so I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: it's it's orders from the court. Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather too for see Alan Drive Full Show

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Speaker 3: Heather, I just heard your correspondent say that the European community,

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Speaker 3: the big mouth European community, are going to use tariffs

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Speaker 3: on Chinese cars. What just after mouthing off because Trump

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Speaker 3: he was using tariffs? How I run trivia? You often

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Speaker 3: make such a good point. Five away from seven. Now, RFK,

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Speaker 3: who never ceases to do outrageous things, has appeared on

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Speaker 3: a podcast and revealed that he used cocaine in toilet cubicles.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I'm not scared of a germ. You know,

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Speaker 1: I used to smart cocaine for toilet seats.

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Speaker 3: Now, the fact that he did that is not news,

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Speaker 3: because of course he had alcohol and substance abuse problems.

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Speaker 3: It's just interesting that he just says those things.

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Speaker 22: Out loud, and saying the quiet part out louder. That

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Speaker 22: My question is always, and maybe I'm getting the wrong

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Speaker 22: into the sticky, but why wouldn't you use the toilet

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Speaker 22: seat cover? You know what I mean? Like people don't

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Speaker 22: sit on that. You could surely you could just close.

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Speaker 3: I thought that that's what that meant.

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Speaker 22: Oh right, okay, Oh see, obviously just said the toilet

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Speaker 22: seat So I was worried, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: So cute.

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Speaker 22: Moving moving on quickly, Bulletproof by LaRue to play us

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Speaker 22: out tonight, Hillary Duff. We've already said that she's going

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Speaker 22: to be playing a show, just the one in Auckland

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Speaker 22: on Tuesday, the twenties of Octome. Lar Rue is going

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Speaker 22: to be the support act. So it's pretty good double

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Speaker 22: bill to be honest.

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Speaker 3: But I would go to LaRue and then walk out

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Speaker 3: after this.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, and not go for that is what the promoter

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Speaker 22: is thinking people will do. And they're putting them both

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Speaker 22: on the same bill because it's Spark Arena, which is

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Speaker 22: a big crowd, and they'll be hoping they get both

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Speaker 22: fan bases along Ellery Duff.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna go to.

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Speaker 22: I hope apparently people are going to go. We'll see

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Speaker 22: how it goes anywhere.

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Speaker 3: I never really got much of an answer as to

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Speaker 3: whether you want to spend two hundred dollars on Sublime tickets,

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Speaker 3: I'm leaning towards.

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Speaker 5: Not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, feels are like a lot of money doesn't work anyway.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your evening. Oh, enjoy your weekend. Oh it's Friday thirteen,

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Speaker 3: so you've only got another five hours you need to

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Speaker 3: be okay and then it's okay again. See you on Monday.

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