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Speaker 1: Hither I won lotter and I was hit by a

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Speaker 1: car thirteen away from five very sober senior political correspondent

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Speaker 1: is with me.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Barry, good afternoon. Hither I've almost been hit by

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Speaker 2: a car. And if I am cycling.

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Speaker 1: And you have one, well.

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Speaker 2: On the way home today, I'll then go out and

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Speaker 2: take a lotto ticket.

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Speaker 1: What was that? Ads? And and since he's almost one

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Speaker 1: lotter before, this feels very unscientific. What is happening right now?

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about the Maori Party and well, how

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Speaker 1: could it possibly get worse?

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Speaker 2: And yet it does. Well, It's incredible, isn't it When

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Speaker 2: you think the Maori Party in terms of the national

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Speaker 2: vote is inconsequential. But why we talk about it so

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Speaker 2: much is that if Labor gets itself in a position

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Speaker 2: next year to form a government, then these people will

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Speaker 2: be in that government and more likely at the cabinet table.

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Speaker 2: That's who will be left of them, if they've got

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Speaker 2: anyone left of them. This morning, the new independent MP

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Speaker 2: like you said, Takuta Ferris, told Radio New Zealand that

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Speaker 2: talk by the party's president, John Tammerherry of an attempt

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Speaker 2: to take over of the party's leadership was a made

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Speaker 2: up story. Pharah says the story had its origins with

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Speaker 2: a statement made by the party's former president, Nida Glavish,

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Speaker 2: and what he said went something like this.

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Speaker 3: It's an invented story by John Tommy Headack. About four

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Speaker 3: or five months ago, a leader in the North, Dame

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Speaker 3: Nada Glavish, told JT that she thought he should step

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Speaker 3: her view was that Muddiamnon and Tarputer should be leading

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Speaker 3: the party. She hadn't talk to me. I hadn't talked

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Speaker 3: to her. I'm not even in their picture, not even

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Speaker 3: remotely in it. I was informed that by muddia Mental.

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Speaker 3: She told me that I'm sort of oh well, we'll

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Speaker 3: have to just wait and see now. I ended up

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Speaker 3: at a dinner with fire Nada in August and she

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Speaker 3: was openly saying that to all in attendance. See John's

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Speaker 3: taking that story and manipulated it into oh Maria Menoin

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Speaker 3: tut trying to take over. It's completely untrue.

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Speaker 2: He's not the flavor of the month. John Tammahiry is he?

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting. I've had that story verified by Knighted Glavish.

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Speaker 2: I talked to her. She's in Australia at the moment,

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Speaker 2: but I think she'll be talking to a national Hui

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Speaker 2: when she gets back next week, and I think there'll

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Speaker 2: be more fireworks there. And some of your older listeners

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Speaker 2: may remember Dame Glavish got a lot of publicity in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four at the dying stage of the Muldoon

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Speaker 2: government that she was a telephone operator here in Auckland

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Speaker 2: and always answered the ornto the call Kiura and that

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Speaker 2: caused a hall of astir she was demoted, but then

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Speaker 2: Rob Talbot, who was the Postmaster General under Muldoon, persuaded

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Speaker 2: Muldoon to reverse it. Now, of course, Kiora, look how

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Speaker 2: far that's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of crazy has even involved the level of incredible. Talk

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Speaker 1: to me about the COP thirty conference. How many people

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Speaker 1: are we sending? It's about fifteen, isn't.

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Speaker 2: It fifteen people? Yea? You know how many people are

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Speaker 2: going there?

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Speaker 1: Thousands?

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Speaker 2: How many do you think here's a ten thousands? Like

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Speaker 2: you started this program off for the question exactly tictic,

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Speaker 2: how many people attended the biggest COP conference in Dubai

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand?

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Speaker 1: No, thirty thousand, wasn't it more than that, fifty more

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Speaker 1: one hundred.

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Speaker 2: No under that eighty thousand.

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Speaker 1: Now we're in eighty.

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Speaker 2: Thousand in Dubai in Brazil, which is a lovely place

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Speaker 2: to go, of course, and they'll be done in Cocoa

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Speaker 2: Cobana no time. I would think fifty six thousand. It's

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Speaker 2: like transporting the whole of Napier to Brazil.

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Speaker 1: And all the associated climate emissions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the damage to it will be such a

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Speaker 2: negative effect on the climate. But look, it'll be interesting

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Speaker 2: because simon what climate change minister he's going there, and

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Speaker 2: the submission he'll be making is he said he'll be

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Speaker 2: focused and I quote him on deepening cooperation to support

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's own transition to a low emission climate resilient

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Speaker 2: economy through innovation, technology and investment. And then Deba Russell,

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Speaker 2: because you're going to have her on, So what's she

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Speaker 2: going to contribute? Well, I'm not sure she'll be able

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Speaker 2: press release announcing her decision to go there that Chris

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Speaker 2: Luckson's government is taking them us backwards by watering down

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Speaker 2: at targets, So no doubt she'll have that sort of

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Speaker 2: message so we'll be arguing with each other at this

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Speaker 2: conference of fifty six thousand people. I real think will

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Speaker 1: Thank god. What's the National Ewee Chairs Forum representative there.

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Speaker 2: For we're at the Climate obligation. Yeah, well you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess you know it'll have something to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably treaty obligation to the time obviously, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: police graduates have heard from the top today that.

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Speaker 2: They have and you can imagine being a new graduate.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're told to respect the officers at the

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Speaker 2: top of your institution. Well, Richard Chambers, he was giving

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Speaker 2: an address and now they're graduating in Auckland as well

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Speaker 2: as in Wellington because they moved a school up to here,

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Speaker 2: and he talked about his predecessors for their group think

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Speaker 1: I still still going hard on it.

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Speaker 2: Well he is, and you know, full on interestingly. I

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Speaker 2: found the patron of this wing here in Auckland as

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Speaker 2: John Key. And John Key himself knows what controversy is

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Speaker 2: all about because he was the center of the ammunition

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Speaker 2: when it came to dirty politics. He was accused of

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Speaker 2: feeding right wing bloggers information and made himself look well

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Speaker 2: that's what it was.

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