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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 2: James mcconey's here off the back of our netple chat.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness you here, James.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Good afternoon. Yes, I'm taking you back to rugby.

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Speaker 3: I hope you don't mind, Poney, but I was entranced

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Speaker 3: by that game last night. I felt that there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of even jobs on the line last night.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that your Chiefs players and that team

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Speaker 2: were absolutely magnificent. To a man, Quinty Pie, did you

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Speaker 2: know he was a center?

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Speaker 3: I did, actually, But thank you, Poney, because I'm actually

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs hate hotline unofficially from a lot of my friends.

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Speaker 3: You don't usually use it, but I do feel several

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Speaker 3: calls often if a Chiefs player isn't up to scratch,

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Speaker 3: and I know that it can get a bit weird

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Speaker 3: when fifteen of them are selected in one year for

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks. But yes, Quinti Pier last night. Well, yes,

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Speaker 3: he did play center for Hamilton Boys back in the day,

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Speaker 3: and he was a center for White Cuttle in the

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Speaker 3: early days. But when he graduated to the Chiefs, of course,

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Speaker 3: he was Antonine at Brown in the number thirteen Jersey

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Speaker 3: and Alex Dankeervell, who was a career center if you

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Speaker 3: like so. So, Quentin's slotted in at twelve and he's

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Speaker 3: very good second five but as you can see, he

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Speaker 3: can play both and it helps when your arms are

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Speaker 3: as strong as your legs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. And I just love the way he

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Speaker 2: is so direct. A couple of tries, one with a

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Speaker 2: lovely cushioned header from Jordi Barrett that reminded me of

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Speaker 2: Guigumo Mai from the Auckland f C side. We can

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Speaker 2: get to that later, but actually, can I also ask

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Speaker 2: you about Lee Roy carter Man talk about a duck

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Speaker 2: to water when it comes to test rugby for that bloke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's just that he's mister energy that

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Speaker 3: energize a bunny right now. And of course if you

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Speaker 3: do have a young let's say, halfback like he was,

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Speaker 3: and he was a half back from the Zella under twenties,

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Speaker 3: which isn't that long ago, and they're super quick and

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Speaker 3: they're very combative and hey, they might just make a

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Speaker 3: great winger and that's what he is. They call him Bomfa.

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Speaker 3: He the said those front on tackles he makes. Yep,

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Speaker 3: he's so impressive, and it's against guys who are stepping

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Speaker 3: them and he reads it and smashes them front on

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Speaker 3: something to behold. So I think there are Leroy carters

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Speaker 3: buzzing around New Zealand rugby. I played with one of

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Speaker 3: a guy called Matt Seevil who ended up playing the

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Speaker 3: King Country. He was a half back turned winger. And

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Speaker 3: you know there's a lot of those guys there who

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Speaker 3: just lend themselves to that. And the only quite often

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Speaker 3: you'll only find out that quick at the school athletics day,

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Speaker 3: you know where they scamper away and you go, wait

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Speaker 3: a second, this guy's got wheels. And I'm sure Lero

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Speaker 3: was the same at toting the boys.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he was. Yeah, that's why first fifteen rugby

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Speaker 2: coaches are always very interested bystanders at the school athletics day,

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Speaker 2: just to see who's got the wheels, just to see

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Speaker 2: who's quick.

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Speaker 3: Oh one thing as well about Quinn as he was

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Speaker 3: marking up against Joseph Suulity and the amount of hype

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Speaker 3: around him is razy. So let's be honest, everyone's running

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Speaker 3: with a Quinn can handle it well, not only handle it,

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Speaker 3: but he out, you know, overshadowed Joseph and you know,

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Speaker 3: just everything he did, he didn't get the credit, I

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Speaker 3: don't think for that try where he hacked the ball

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Speaker 3: ahead and stayed ahead of all the runners, and actually

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Speaker 3: that try was came from a line out winning against

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Speaker 3: the throw from Fabian Holland. He's been another rookie who

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Speaker 3: was incredible. I thought last week at Eden Park he

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Speaker 3: won fourteen of the All Blacks fifteen lineouts and he

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Speaker 3: just keeps on in terms of unearthing, you know, potential greats.

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Speaker 3: I think Razor has done a really good job there.

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Speaker 2: Just before we move on from the rugby and if

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Speaker 2: we could move away from the Chiefs just ever so

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Speaker 2: slightly to the Crusaders to mighty Williams and Fletcher nuwell

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Speaker 2: the starting props last night. Cody Taylor was there as well,

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Speaker 2: so let's not forget him and all Crusaders front row,

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Speaker 2: but Williams and Null I like these guys as well,

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Speaker 2: do you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love I mean I thought that having the

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Speaker 3: Crusaders front row made a big difference with the cohesion

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Speaker 3: at scrub time. But also there was a massive moment

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Speaker 3: when will Skelton picked on camoyguard in the first minute

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Speaker 3: having a chat with Skelton. Did you see him wondering

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Speaker 3: over risk, this isn't your business and commning going I

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Speaker 3: think you'll find it is my business. That's my half back.

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Speaker 3: And then Will Skelton left in the thirteenth minute, and

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Speaker 3: so I went back on the tape and tried to

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Speaker 3: find if it was to Mikey who did something to him,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't. He didn't get down Gudu in his

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Speaker 3: great tackle though that cut him in half, but no,

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Speaker 3: he It looked like Will Skelton was stretching for a

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Speaker 3: pass from Harry Potter, and as a fellow big man,

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Speaker 3: I can report that a pass that you have to

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Speaker 3: stretch for is not a great idea. But when the

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Speaker 3: game did speed up, I did notice that Skelton was struggling.

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Speaker 3: So that seems like the future for the All Blacks.

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Speaker 3: And then that's why, just before we leave the that game,

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Speaker 3: I thought Peter Larkey was really really good. Part Garnet

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Speaker 3: and part tongue then. Interesting, that's the first time we've

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Speaker 3: ever had that, Piney. I mean you and I know

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Speaker 3: I love our garnet and footballers, but first garnet and

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Speaker 3: rugby player I've truly fallen in love with and he

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Speaker 3: made a big difference and I think he was He

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Speaker 3: showed that in that Test against France last year. Just

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Speaker 2: So a month off now for the All Blacks. Then

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Speaker 2: on consecutive Sundays, Ireland in Chicago, Scotland at Edinburgh, England

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Speaker 2: at Twickenham and Wales at Cardiff. That is the remainder

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Speaker 2: of the All Blacks. Twenty twenty five. Can we go

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Speaker 2: to the NRL Grand Final? Who do you want to

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Speaker 2: win this game tonight? The Melbourne Storm or the Brisbane Broncos,

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Speaker 2: not who you think will win. Who do you want

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Speaker 3: Oh? The Broncos? One d rather the Broncos were the

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Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm the evil Empire. They're innovators. I mean they

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Speaker 3: are the first club to get properly done for salary

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Speaker 3: cat breach. There are also a lot of the tackles

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Speaker 3: that have been outlawed in recent history, initiated and started

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Speaker 3: at the Storm in camp there and I've even had

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Speaker 3: former Storm players confirm that they're always looking to define

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Speaker 3: ways to sort of rig the system, if you like.

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Speaker 3: And then a new law will come out from the

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Speaker 3: NRL and it's generally Storm and you have to admire

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Speaker 3: their innovation. And actually Wayne Smith is one of them,

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Speaker 3: one of Craig Dullamy's mentors. Can you believe he's on

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Speaker 3: the books at the Melbourne Storm, So sir Wayne Smith

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Speaker 3: Smith is helping them. So they've got the best brains

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Speaker 3: in both codes, if you like. But really the Phil

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Speaker 3: the Broncos, the way they've sort of built again, I

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Speaker 3: do really like Reese Walsh as a player. I know

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Speaker 3: that does weird stuff off the field and drinks toilet water,

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Speaker 3: but I mean you can forgive someone for drinking toilet

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Speaker 3: water once or twice, can't you. Pony?

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, which of us

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Speaker 2: hasn't on that? Oh man?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's clearly an odd individual. He's an extremely

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Speaker 2: good looking man and a very good rugby league play.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. And also what I notice is

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Speaker 3: you know how regularly can get robotic with those moves

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Speaker 3: where they get into a good shape as they call it,

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Speaker 3: and it's either a front door or a back door pass,

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Speaker 3: you know, the short ball for the second rower, or

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Speaker 3: the out ball, the wide ball, the back door pass

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Speaker 3: to the to the fullback. Well, Reese walshler changes all that.

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Speaker 3: He shows up in the position where a half normally

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Speaker 3: and throw a neckbill pass out wide. I actually like

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Speaker 3: the fact that he is really off the tough and

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if you interviewed him when he

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Speaker 3: was with the Warriors, Poney, but he's kind of got

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Speaker 3: a very gentle personality. It doesn't seem like a contactical

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Speaker 3: guy at all. But yeah, I just like watching him play.

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Speaker 2: So do I and another guy enjoyed watching play for

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Speaker 2: the Warriors for a long time as Bunty are for

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Speaker 2: And he gets one more crack this afternoon, not in

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Speaker 2: the first grade side, but in the reserve team and

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Speaker 2: the state championship as they take on the brilliantly named

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Speaker 2: Burly Bears this afternoon. I hope Bunty can come off

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Speaker 2: the back fence a few more times and leave on

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Speaker 2: a high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. What an incredible servant, and he's

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Speaker 3: the glue guy in the squad as well. They'll miss Bunty,

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Speaker 3: especially off the field. I think in recent years he's

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Speaker 3: just been that guy who just keeps the everyone's spirits

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Speaker 3: think it was when Aaron Clark showed up at the Warriors,

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Speaker 3: Bunty was the first guy around in his place. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: lovely man, and hey, look shout out to Michael maguire

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Speaker 3: as well, the Broncos coach. Who's you know, He's been

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Speaker 3: sacked from plenty of places and I know he won

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Speaker 3: a title with SUTs, but it just shows that that

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Speaker 3: sacked coaches can win. Piney with Hadon with Hanson and

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Speaker 3: Henry who got ditched by Wales. You know, Carlo Ancelotti

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Speaker 3: got sacked by everyone and succeeded at Real Madrid's so

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Speaker 3: why not major as they call them. Michael McGuire for

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Speaker 3: the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, James, always good chatting mate. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 2: the time as always. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday

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Speaker 2: and we'll catch up again next weekend.

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